[e-gold-list] The Perfect Storm?

2001-05-18 Thread Mark S. Ohberg

THE PERFECT STORM?

Yes its always in the charts, has been over and over again since Cowles
all stock index in 1876.  Time cycles happen every 40 years.  It is
time,  what jpm describes as the W is the shift from a primary bear to a

primary bull market.  Of course the M is the opposite, but what is the
psychology of a bull.  Fear to confidence to greed however what are the
factors to converge to create such a rally?

The U.S. economy is sinking, inflation is becoming a swell, the U.S.
dollar is floundering. Much to the dismay of the master manipulators
gold is becoming ever more golden.  The storm has created 20 ft. gold
prices. Jumped to a two month high, you know who rides the crest?
Shares of North American gold miners have just made new highs for the
year.

June gold futures in New York rose US$12.65 to US$286.15, their highest
mark since March 13. Spot bullion also higher. The
The midsize gold companies like Meridian Gold Inc. (MNG/TSE) up 13.7%
and Glamis Gold Ltd. (GLG/TSE) up 10.8%. the biggest gainers.
K.I.A.C. has always recommended these for the past two years.

Lets add up all the factors:
The fifth U.S. interest rate means US economy trouble.  It takes about a

year for the cuts to be realized.
These rate cuts, fuel for future inflation?
And how about those higher energy prices? what are they doing?
The Tide of inflation is coming in.
Strong demand at Britain's auction of 20 tons of gold on Tuesday was 3.7

times oversubscribed.
I will say what others do not.  The whacky gold derivative folks, the
paper golders can not cover higher gold prices.
Let sum up all these factors for a PERRRFECT STORM
 gold a safe haven.
gold a safe haven.
   gold a safe haven.
  gold a safe haven.

Ah, lets seeOH YEA, still very expensive world, crash in Nasdaq as
lead by tech stocks, did I say sea sick U.S. dollar?
Hmmm where to go? you like Euros? Dollarized Central America?. Gold is
an obvious safe haven and affordable for non-U.S. dollar-based
investors since gold is priced in U.S. dollars.  Do you think it is time

for
Gold to be priced in EURO's? it could be.

Once the US Dollar falls overboard, plan on 100 ft rises in gold, past
the $300 kill barrier.  Certainly by August at the latest.
PREDICTION:
jump in shares of the intermediate producers COULD BE OVER, Think of the

larger players like Barrick Gold Corp. and Placer Dome Inc.
or the smaller players.

Ride the Bull into the perfect storm

If you think this was BULL, than click hear!
http://www.two-cents-worth.com/?107245



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[e-gold-list] Re: Banks, Guns, and Feudal Lords

2001-05-18 Thread George Matyjewicz

At 07:25 PM 5/18/2001, Viking Coder wrote:
> > I wrote
> > It wouldn't be any different than accessing your account from somewhere
> > other than your personal, at-home computer.
>
>There are already a few offline, brick & mortar shops that accept e-gold.
>I was wondering about creating a little module so that people don't have
>to purchase & place a full-sized computer just for e-gold transactions...

If they accept debit cards, they already have the equipment - 
that little keypad attached to the card swipe which is usually 
provided by the credit card processor.

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[e-gold-list] Re: Hey - yes, it's in the charts

2001-05-18 Thread jpm

>any clue about why gold spiked? Is it in the charts? :)
>JMR
>


Jim dude - I totally told you it was starting a run up, recall???!? 
And I told you it would go nust after it passed the resistance 
established by the middle of the W.

The reason for the spike (rather than just a continual slow buildup)

http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/GD/61

is simply that on friday during the day it passed upwards through the 
line of resistance at 275.00 (as seen on the chart above)

Notice on that chart, you see an incredibly obvious "double bottom" 
or "W" formation.

It is so obvious that anyone in the world who has ever looked at any 
chart would recongnize it!

Notice the high point around the middle of MARCH, the "middle" of the 
"W"...being 275.

So - how do you "confirm" that a "double bottom" formation is in fact 
a double bottom formation?

The answer is very simply that you watch it going up the right-hand 
leg (as it has been doing), and, once it goes through that level (ie, 
the "high point of the middle of the W" -- 275 in the chart at hand), 
you "know" that it is "really" a double bottom formation.

Then, you just buy because you "cant lose", comfirmed-double-bottom 
formations always head north.

Thus, for the last say 20 days as it has been going up the "right 
leg", "everyone" has just been waiting for it to pass 275 (ie, the 
height of the middle of the "W")

Thus, when it broke 275, during the day on Friday, everyone went nuts buying.

(Even more specifically, the unwashed hordes of amateurs probably had 
vast numbers of stop orders in to automatically buy-at-market 
[snicker] when it touched 275.  Now, all of the pros [who exist to 
take money from the amateurs] completely understood everything 
mentioned above, in fact they could literally see the billions of $ 
of idiotic market-if-touched orders sitting there -- so, as easy as 
taking candy from a baby, they just ran the price through 275 up ten 
bucks in a few moments, so that all the long orders would fill at a 
really hugh rate -- THUS, A SPIKE.)

{Also, as a curiosity, notice there was a funny little pullback 
(lasting 4 sessions) a few seesions ago -- that was the pros faking 
out all the kiddies who thought "I'll buy just before 275 - like the 
pros!) .. so they just beat it down 5 bucks, which would have scared 
off all the civillians and left them with a loss, before the 
underlying pressure actually took it over 275.}

{I would guess there will be a pull back in, or for, the next few 
days as the pros wipe out everyone's gains. I don't think that's "in 
the charts" but more common sense.}

In short --- in an utterly, perfectly classic "W" or "double bottom" 
formation, we were waiting for the right-hand-up-leg to cross through 
the level of the top of the middle of the "W" .. it did this exactly 
like in a text book on charting!!!

That example of gold in May 2001 will always be used in books on 
charting forever, it is textbook perfect!  It could hardly be more 
perfect.

Waiting for a chart to break up throgh the "middle of the W" and 
confirm a double bottom is probably the most basic and common 
charting technique used!

Thus, everyone was doing it, hence the spike!!

You rock Jim!

cc to the egoldlist for everyone else who asked me!!!


People will rant about fundamentals now (supply, demand, politics, 
consporacies, banks, and other crap) but it's .. all in the charts! :)









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[e-gold-list] Re: Banks, Guns, and Feudal Lords

2001-05-18 Thread Elwyn Jenkins

>> Our Standard Reserve ATM card can work at any merchant that
>> accepts pin-based debit cards.  We use it at our local Kroger.
>>
>
>That costs $3.50 per usage though, doesn't it?
>That's a bit steep for everyday usage. If I purchase a $1.50 drink, I will
>pay a total of $5 for it.
>

This is incorrect. At a POS terminal, such as at a grocer, there is no
charge at all. It is pure cash, with no fee attached. So there should be an
incentive to find all the PIN enabled POS terminals and spend you money
there instead of getting slugged the $3.50 at an ATM.

Elwyn Jenkins
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[e-gold-list] Re: Banks, Guns, and Feudal Lords

2001-05-18 Thread Viking Coder

> Using the computer at a public library should be no problem.

Why do you trust the library's computer anymore than joe schmoe merchant's
computer? Their security usually isn't stellar, and black hats can
somewhat easily put keystroke loggers on there.


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[e-gold-list] Re: Banks, Guns, and Feudal Lords

2001-05-18 Thread Viking Coder

> Our Standard Reserve ATM card can work at any merchant that 
> accepts pin-based debit cards.  We use it at our local Kroger.
> 

That costs $3.50 per usage though, doesn't it?
That's a bit steep for everyday usage. If I purchase a $1.50 drink, I will
pay a total of $5 for it.


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[e-gold-list] Re: Banks, Guns, and Feudal Lords

2001-05-18 Thread George Matyjewicz

At 05:54 PM 5/18/2001, Samuel Mc Kee wrote:

> > My question was aimed to towards an offline POS module. It would be like
> > the card swiping terminals you see at the grocery store, gas station,
> > etc... Is anybody working on something like that?
> >

Our Standard Reserve ATM card can work at any merchant that 
accepts pin-based debit cards.  We use it at our local Kroger.

My area of expertise is in retailing, especially technology for 
retailers.  It's relatively easy to add Standard Reserve payment 
option to most POS systems.  They usually have setup options 
where the retailer can establish his/her own method of payment, 
i.e., check, cash, debit card, Amex, Visa, etc.  All they need is 
instructions.

Most merchants are linked to a card processing company, and are 
not able to capture credit card information.  You probably saw 
the Zon JR unit where they swipe the card and it goes to the 
processor.  If they use a debit card capture machine they don't 
have access to your PW, as it is entered once the connection is 
made, and not on the local machine.  If somebody hands you a 
computer keyboard, think twice.

Of course adding another payment option is always a Catch-22 
situation.  The merchant plays the numbers game also.

We also have Standard Reserve in WAP and it is in a Beta stage right now.

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[e-gold-list] Re: Banks, Guns, and Feudal Lords

2001-05-18 Thread Samuel Mc Kee


> > It seems to me that one of the problems with a POS machine is
> that the payer
> > would have to type his password into a machine belonging to
> someone else.
>
> It wouldn't be any different than accessing your account from somewhere
> other than your personal, at-home computer.

It depends. Using the WAP interface means you'd be using your own phone. No
problem there. Using the computer at a public library should be no problem.
But if a B&M merchant just had his own PC set up so I could enter my
username and password into it, there's no way I'd do it unless I really knew
and trusted the merchant. It would be a trivial matter to write a stealth
front-end to the browser that could capture the password. Be ever so careful
entering your password into someone else's machine.



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[e-gold-list] Re: Banks, Guns, and Feudal Lords

2001-05-18 Thread Vince Callaway

> There are already a few offline, brick & mortar shops that accept e-gold.
> I was wondering about creating a little module so that people don't have
> to purchase & place a full-sized computer just for e-gold transactions...

A Palm VII?

That does bring up a good point.  The E-Gold site uses frames.  Every
handheld browser I have does not support them.  I can use my Casio Windows
CE device to access E-Gold and do spends but it is a pain in the butt. 


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[e-gold-list] Re: Banks, Guns, and Feudal Lords

2001-05-18 Thread Viking Coder

> I wrote
> It wouldn't be any different than accessing your account from somewhere
> other than your personal, at-home computer.

There are already a few offline, brick & mortar shops that accept e-gold.
I was wondering about creating a little module so that people don't have
to purchase & place a full-sized computer just for e-gold transactions...

http://www.bananagold.com/cars.html


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[e-gold-list] Re: Banks, Guns, and Feudal Lords

2001-05-18 Thread Viking Coder

> There's the WAP interface, but that has obvious limitations.

Hey Jay, does the SCI work on pcs.e-gold.com?


> It seems to me that one of the problems with a POS machine is that the payer
> would have to type his password into a machine belonging to someone else.

It wouldn't be any different than accessing your account from somewhere
other than your personal, at-home computer.


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[e-gold-list] Gold Today

2001-05-18 Thread Eric J. Gaither



To:  All Concerned.

Please be advised that I have been unable to access my email for the past 2
hours and will not be able to access it for about an additional 8 hours.
There is an apparent problem with the Telstra pop-server I am using so am
not receiving and cannot respond to any emails for the time being.  Please
bear with me and accept my apologies for the delay in order processing.

I will be taking steps to generate an alternative and more reliable email
service this coming week when I can get back online.

Meanwhile You can use the following email address for emergencies.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Michael Moore
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[e-gold-list] Re: Banks, Guns, and Feudal Lords

2001-05-18 Thread Samuel Mc Kee


> My question was aimed to towards an offline POS module. It would be like
> the card swiping terminals you see at the grocery store, gas station,
> etc... Is anybody working on something like that?
>

There's the WAP interface, but that has obvious limitations.

It seems to me that one of the problems with a POS machine is that the payer
would have to type his password into a machine belonging to someone else.
I'd rather see Alan Greenspan naked than do that. You might just as well
print up T-shirts with your account number and password on them.



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[e-gold-list] Re: Banks, Guns, and Feudal Lords

2001-05-18 Thread Viking Coder

> Dale Pond wrote
> The credit card companies have more than credit to offer. They have dynamic
> catalog and order processing systems in place. I have yet to see one with
> e-gold. 

This is one of the projects I'm working on. I hope to have it up and
running before too long. However, my life has a habit of intervening on my
best laid plans.

My question was aimed to towards an offline POS module. It would be like
the card swiping terminals you see at the grocery store, gas station,
etc... Is anybody working on something like that?


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[e-gold-list] Hong Kong Monetary Authority

2001-05-18 Thread Bob

Subject: 
Yam's Empire
  Date: 
Fri, 18 May 2001 07:20:06 -0400
  From: 
"R. A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Digital Bearer Settlement List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


http://interactive.wsj.com/articles/SB990128659479662118.htm

May 18, 2001

International Commentary

Joseph Yam's Empire

Is the Hong Kong Monetary Authority a central bank? The ready answer

should
be no, since it is charged with running a currency board arrangement. A
currency board means that Hong Kong dollars can only be created when
U.S.
dollars are deposited in the Exchange Fund. The HKMA isn't supposed to
serve as a provider of liquidity in times of market stress, as central
banks do. Rather its mandate is to deter speculative attacks on the Hong
Kong dollar with an iron-clad promise to redeem the local currency at
the
fixed rate.

With an Exchange Fund of $115.1 billion it certainly has the resources
to
do so, down to the last coin in circulation. But the HKMA's resolve to
carry through on the promise is the critical factor in the success of
this
arrangement. So it's worrying that the HKMA is looking more and more
like a
full-service central bank. That raises doubts in many people's minds
whether, faced with a crisis, it would indeed behave like a currency
board,
or if the government would choose to abandon the fixed rate and give a
stressed banking sector relief from high interest rates.

The chief executive of the HKMA, Joseph Yam, enjoys a great deal of
autonomy and good relations with his political masters. His organization
is
a statutory body, technically not part of the civil service, and it has
its
own source of funding, the returns from managing the territory's
monetary
reserves. Mr. Yam reports to the financial secretary, and an advisory
group
oversees his stewardship of the reserves. But this group is made up
largely
of bankers, who in turn are regulated by Mr. Yam. It's interesting to
note
that the chief executive is allowed to pay himself a salary of over $1.2
million. This is about four times the remuneration of the financial
secretary, and more than many large countries pay their central bank
governors.

The authority has grown tremendously in its eight years of operation. It
employed 607 people last year, up from from 324 when it was created
through
the merger of the Exchange Fund and the Office of the Commissioner of
Banking in 1993. And expect more expansion in years to come. Mr. Yam is
planning to move from his current cramped quarters, three floors in
downtown Victoria's Citibank Tower, to 14 floors in the International
Finance Centre, totalling 340,000 square feet. Last month the
Legislative
Council tried without success to restrain Mr. Yam from spending $474.4
million, more than Hong Kong's annual education budget, on the new digs.

It's true that the bulk of the HKMA's expansion has little to do with
the
currency board. Mr. Yam found growth opportunities in his other areas of
responsibility, regulating banks and developing Hong Kong's financial
system. For instance, he set up a company to create mortgage-backed
bonds
in order to promote the local bond market. Now he wants to oversee
consumer
protection for banking products. As part of introducing deposit
insurancehe
will get vetting power over all appointments of banks' senior managers.
And
of course Mr. Yam has a busy schedule of attending conferences and
giving
speeches to his central bank colleagues around the world.

The danger of lumping such a large and fancy operation with a currency
board is that it inevitably encourages the public to believe the HKMA
can
steer Hong Kong through financial crises with relatively little pain.
After
all, the more resources you put in, the more you expect to get out.
Nothing
has been done to discourage this misconception. In 1998 the HKMA created
a
discount window so that it could lend overnight money to banks using
bonds
as collateral. Employed in moderation to smooth out some sudden drops in
liquidity, this measure doesn't necessarily weaken the currency board.
But
taken in connection with other signs of central-bank envy it undermines
the
notion that Hong Kong is prepared to suffer the pain of high interest
rates
in order to defend the fixed rate of exchange.

In a column posted on his Web site last month, Mr. Yam explained that
Hong
Kong needs large amounts of reserves far in excess of those needed to
back
the local currency in circulation. That's so that the government can
ward
off speculators without interest rates spiking upward, as would happen
with
a simple currency board operation. Mr. Yam cites as example the
government's intervention in the stock market to defeat currency
speculators in the "wicked month of August 1998," when Hong Kong was
"hit
by the tidal waves of international finance." About $10 billion was used
defending the currency, $15 billion was used buying stocks and $13
billion
was used enlarging the monetary base in order to minimize the increase
in
interest rate

[e-gold-list] Re: capped accounts

2001-05-18 Thread Viking Coder

> It appears to me the only mistake Costa Gold made was
> to use Omnipay for their outexchange... 

I don't see how Omnipay acted any differently than anybody else would.

Would you want to be on the receiving end of a >$1 million lawsuit because
you gave the money to the wrong person? Sending the gold back to the
e-gold account could be considered giving it to the wrong person if the
claims of an internal security breach were true.

Omnipay hasn't 'seized' the gold, they are waiting for somebody from Costa
Gold to provide the identity verification to claim the gold. However, it
probably won't happen for 10 years; the statute of limitations on fraud.
Omnipay can do this without even bending their user agreement. They aren't
e-gold ltd.


> When will people learn, the lads at the top of e-gold/G&SR/Omnipay have a VERY
> biased modus operandi?

Okay... So don't use Omnipay. JP May run's a very nice e-gold wholesale
service, Coconut Gold, which has absolutely no connections to Omnipay.
There are several MMs who will pay you more, and/or quicker, than Omnipay
will for your smaller amounts of e-gold.

I have yet to met, or even hear of, more than a few people who don't have
a VERY biased modus operandi. Mother Theresa, Adolf Hitler, and Leonardo
Da Vinci all had a VERY biased modus operandi. If somebody doesn't have a
VERY biased modus operandi, I question their strength of will and ability
to think for themself. This especially applies to anybody at the top. How
do you think they got to the top?


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[e-gold-list] Re: Banks, Guns, and Feudal Lords

2001-05-18 Thread Dale Pond

Viking Coder wrote:
> 
> The credit card companies have one thing over e-gold that will make it
> hard to break into the "popular offline" group; namely, credit.  
> 
> To get the popular offline group will mean recruiting the merchants before
> recruiting the consumers.
> 
> Is anybody working on a POS (point of service) terminal to allow
> (somewhat) offline e-gold transactions to occur? 
> 
The credit card companies have more than credit to offer. They have dynamic
catalog and order processing systems in place. I have yet to see one with
e-gold. I asked Internetsecure and DXShop to implement a single button on their
great catalog/order processing system for e-gold. This button would simply be
another choice of payment mode for the customer. To date nothing has happened.
Perhaps the lack of a fee is missing? To my knowledge there is no way for these
processors to "get paid" during the transaction. But for whatever reason they
are reticent to implement. I for one would pay extra each month for this tiny
additional service.

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[e-gold-list] RE: WARNING! (the persistent e-Qold scammer)

2001-05-18 Thread mcffoster

Yes you are unbelievable.  No one who makes the claim of how honest
they are would ask to e-mail their passwords.  NOBODY BUT NOBODY should
e-mail their passwords to anyone - except maybe to mom.

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[e-gold-list] Re: capped accounts

2001-05-18 Thread Goldlist Cynic

It appears to me the only mistake Costa Gold made was
to use Omnipay for their outexchange... When will
people learn, the lads at the top of
e-gold/G&SR/Omnipay have a VERY biased modus operandi?





>>Would you want to cash-out an account for over 1
million dollars without
even getting a copy of the guy's driver's license?<<<

>IF this were a requirement for OPENING and
MAINTAINING an account..yes.

>Since it isn't, no.

It is an Omnipay requirement, and has been since last
summer.


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[e-gold-list] RE: WARNING! (the persistent e-Qold scammer)

2001-05-18 Thread Joyce Marie

Too funny Sam! let me know how many email you their
account number and password!

Joyce Marie

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> Unbelievable!
> 
> As a public service to all the potential scam
> victims out there, I can
> provide a service that will tell you if your
> password has been compromised.
> Just e-mail me your account number and password, and
> I'll tell you if your
> account has been compromised.
> 
> 
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[e-gold-list] Re: maples - guaranteed weight?

2001-05-18 Thread Mark S. Ohberg

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> At 5:00 PM -0400 5/15/01, Mark S. Ohberg wrote:
> >Because the Royal Canadian Mint is well known and advanced, Maple
> >Leaf Bullion Coins are bought and sold around the world.  Every Maple
> >Leaf coin is guaranteed by the Government of Canada for weight and
> >purity.
>
> is that a fact? -- it seems hard to believe.
>
> Can anyone point to where the CAN GOV asserts this is true, on a web
> site, or anywhere else? Anyway, can anyone supply any verification of this, I'd
> be fascinated to know.
>
> JP

A
Government Guaranteed - "The Government of Canada produces the Gold Maple Leaf and
guarantees its gold content and purity.
This guarantee is embodied in the symbol of the country-the maple leaf."

The Royal Canadian Mint, Incorporated in 1969 by the Royal Canadian Mint Act
(R.S.C. 1985, c. R-9); Schedule III, Part II of the FAA;
an agent of Her Majesty. The organization is subject to the Financial
Administration Act as a 'Branch Designated as Department'
but is not listed in a Schedule.

Plus B
BILL C-41 - First Reading  RECOMMENDATION
 His Excellency the Governor General recommends to the House of Commons the
appropriation of public revenue under the
circumstances, in the manner and for  the purposes set out in a measure entitled
``An Act to amend the Royal Canadian Mint Act
and the Currency Act''  SUMMARY
 This enactment amends the Royal Canadian Mint Act to update the terminology for
<< coins>>  in order to reflect the markets served
rather than the metals of  which the << coins>>  are composed. The amendments
simplify the process for issuing << coins>>  by giving additional powers to the
Mint and to the Minister  of Public Works and Government Services. The Mint is
given the capacity of a natural person and the power to incorporate subsidiaries
and to acquire and  dispose of interests in other entities. Other amendments of an
administrative nature are also enacted.
Clause 13: Subsection 9(1) reads as follows:
 9. (1) The Governor in Council may, by proclamation, call in  coins  of any date
and denomination.

Plus C
An Act respecting the marking of articles containing precious metals
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/P-19/text.html

Equals This:  Because the Gold Canadian Maple Leaf Bullion coin is Marked with the
Gold Canadian Maple Leaf, gold and purity tampering will lead to severe penalties
in accordance to the Royal Canadian Mint and Currency Act and The Canadian
Financial Administration Act. and is thus guaranteed.

Hope this helps

MSO
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http://www.two-cents-worth.com/?107245
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[e-gold-list] Re: Gold up $6

2001-05-18 Thread major bosco


Yep,,, the dyke is breached,, here comes the panic money..  I see my HM, 
AEM, and GOLD stocks are doing very nicely..

Regards,



>From: "C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "e-gold Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: [e-gold-list] Gold up $6
>Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 13:31:12 -0400
>
>I hope that all of you ae enjoying this little rally in gold
>
>http://www.kitco.com/charts/livegold.html
>
>Gold Stocks are up 50-100% in the last 6 months. Forget thos
>HYIP porgrams.
>
>Buy your gold stocks!  Buy your gold currencies!
>
>Claude
>Editor, The Ormetal Report
>http://www.ormetal.com
>http://www.goldcurrencies.ca
>
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[e-gold-list] Re: acct# 258186

2001-05-18 Thread LeoNid

-Original Message-
From: Tril <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: LeoNid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, May 18, 2001 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: [e-gold-list] acct# 258186


You have cookies and javascript turned on?  I can believe it will simply
say "You are not logged in." if you disabled cookies.


Why? I eat cookies too, if they are not too sugar-sweet:) Honestly,
putting my right hand (is it not withered off yet in a WoNdErLaNd, i am:)
onto my heart: I didn't change these my settings recently. Although i did
thought about cookies, when i first saw a MSG (in an another passworded
account as well). Did you read my mind? Many (and You) do it all the time,
I guess:).

Anyway, I tried again - and it worked `just fine` that time. Probably, it
was just some temporary  bug - intrusion. Could they disable/enable
cookies over a network?:) (I think, they don't even need cable connection
for that; its all wireless:)

Speaking of _traditional_ possibilities - I indeed upgraded a browser, but
this could barely be a cause by itself, as I checked (although, for
another, passworded account) with another browser, with the same luck.

Anyway, thank you for a quick (flash-like:) response, generally:)
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This message is placed in the public domain.


Thats right. Never intended otherwise, given absence of privacy anyway.
"What is known by two - is  known by a swine too": proverb:)




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[e-gold-list] Heap Of Gold Refunding?

2001-05-18 Thread Lim Ka Seong

Has anyone got a refund from Heap Of Gold. They did sent me an email
asking for my mailing address. I have email it to them about 2 weeks ago.
No futher updates.

KS

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[e-gold-list] Gold up $6

2001-05-18 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.

I hope that all of you ae enjoying this little rally in gold

http://www.kitco.com/charts/livegold.html

Gold Stocks are up 50-100% in the last 6 months. Forget thos 
HYIP porgrams.

Buy your gold stocks!  Buy your gold currencies!

Claude
Editor, The Ormetal Report
http://www.ormetal.com
http://www.goldcurrencies.ca

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[e-gold-list] acct# 258186

2001-05-18 Thread LeoNid

This is an ~open letter~ in regard to the problems with login in into my
e-gold account, I encountered today.

May be some of e-Gold-en Youth can share clues, as well (as)/and or /
faster then in a week from this sending, if of course this MSG 'll make it
to addresses:)

I did not change, (nor willingly/or knowingly - shared:) my account
password. But

could not login with the board message ~just~ saying: you are not logged
in. What kind of *OS* issued it? Honestly though, this password messing
Sabbath happened today not just with e-gold, but with my another password
accessed account as ~well~. But technically, reasons could be different,
even if orchestrated from the same 'list':) May Bee:)

I repeat this is ~not~ a password loss (although clearly a `SeCuRiTy`
?bugs?) issue, -> that is why idon'tsand it to password related
address.

Tank u 4 educating i on that. Cheers.
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[e-gold-list] Re: WARNING! (the persistent e-Qold scammer)

2001-05-18 Thread James M. Ray

At 5:20 PM -0500 5/17/01, James M. Ray wrote:
>This person has moved ISPs AGAIN. 
...
And now he's moved AGAIN! He also made a new email address.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Please, if you go to his site, enter only FALSE information to clog
his system, and if you like, continue to send treatises on morality
to his new address, since apparently they're not having an effect.
JMR


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[e-gold-list] Call me cruel and heartless, but

2001-05-18 Thread James M. Ray

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A42489-2001May17.html 

really made me snicker. These were some of the same folks I BEGGED
to look at something with fundamentals, without results. Hype won, but
then it lost big-time. Fundamentals remain.  :^)

On a more-serious subject, my friend Ken of http://www.webleyweb.com/ 
is looking for more business designing web-pages for e-gold. While the 
description of services is oriented towards non-profit orgs, he's happy to
do "pictures of my cat" pages too, so contact him if you want html work. 
Thanks.
JMR


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[e-gold-list] Re: Banks, Guns, and Feudal Lords

2001-05-18 Thread Julian Morrison

Viking Coder wrote:

> The credit card companies have one thing over e-gold that will make it
> hard to break into the "popular offline" group; namely, credit.  You can
> use your credit card without having the money on hand; can't do that with
> e-gold.

Do people actually *want* credit? I know I use debit cards by
preference.

If they do want it, credit with e-gold is simple enough: the traditional
borrow, lend approach works well enough (eg:metal savings). Or just
plain have at hand a large wodge of the stuff from which to lend (and
later recieve back plus interest). Only trouble with either approach is
that you have to be careful not run out and have to stall people while
waiting for returns. But provided people knew this was a risk, it would
work.

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