RE: [Elecraft] Hakko 808 wanted

2004-08-28 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
If you are trying the solder blob method and  finding that it takes an
inordinate amount of time to work, try two things:

First, be sure you are heating some copper and not just enamel. At the very
least, make sure the cut end of the wire is in the blob so the end of the
copper is being heated. Better, scrape the wire slightly first to expose
some copper along the length you want to clean. One swipe on the sharp
edge of a blade screwdriver or a DULL knife is good to pop some enamel loose
along one thin line down the side of the wire. 

Secondly, be sure you are using enough heat. I have a 275 watt (yes 275
watt!) soldering gun that I often use to burn off the enamel. At full heat,
it'll burn right through the enamel in short order G. When using my
soldering station, I crank up the heat to 800 F for removing enamel. (That's
one of the features I like about the Hakko soldering stations - a knob to
adjust the temperature with!)

Ron AC7AC



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[Elecraft] K2 Birdies

2004-08-28 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Hi  K2ers,

Has anyone got any comments to make about internally generated birdies in
the K2?  I have only just had a look at what my K2 produces because during a
QSO with a JA on 40m Long Path a few mornings ago, who was playing chicken
at 7. plus gnat's eyebrow, I was getting constant QRM - unkeyed
carrier - and  he was weak weak. Much blue smoke about guys who dont use
dummy loads. Brain finally arrived and remembered a comment in the manual
about a weak birdie at 7 Mhz. So, put a dummy load on the K2/100 and indeed
QRM was from the birdie. So went looking for other birdies in case K2 needed
re-alignment. I found:

Scratching noises at 3524 and 3572  as tuning was varied (all freqs are to
nearest kHz)
Plop and constant  at 3590   (sounds like a PLL locking and then letting go
as tuning knob is moved)
A good plop at 3990(PLL only holding for a small shift in
tuning)
Healthy one at 4000   ( to be expected)
Twins at 7000
Twins at 10.170
Twins at 14.171
A good plop at 14.350
S9 Plop and constant at 14361  (grateful that it is out of band)
Twins at 18.172
Twins at 28.000
Good plop at 28.277
Single carrier at 29.483

Have not done any number crunching yet, but I suspect that the Twins have
something to do with  +/- 4 Mhz oscillators +/- something else. The plops
worry me a bit. Dont want to plop on transmit. All the birdies that are
in-band are strong enough to cause QRM.

Are these birdies found in all K2s, or have I not got something properly set
up?

73,   Geoff  GM4ESD

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Birdies

2004-08-28 Thread G3VVT
Had a quick check with my K2 serial No.4168 for birdies:
 
All 80m frequencies quoted below 4000 nothing on any mode. I did have  moving 
interference with a poor tone on 3857 of S1 drifting HF + a  broadcast 
station on 3891 of S0. Appear to be external pickup despite having a  BNC 1/2W 
term 
on the K2 antenna socket.
 
4000 Yes at S1
7000 Yes at S0
10170Yes on CW at 10172.4 at S0
LSB  at 10172.5 at S0
USB  clear
14171Yes on 14172 CW/LSB at S0
14167  USB at S0
14350Yes on CW transit only 14351.19 to  14351.20
LSB  transit only 14351.38 to 14351.39
USB  transit only 14353.38 to 14353.39
14361Yes on CW transit only 14361.19 to  14361.20
LSB  appears abruptly 14361.40 and disappears same. S7
USB  appears abruptly 14363.38 and disappears same. S7
18172Yes on 18172.40 CW at S0
18172.50  LSB at S0
18167  USB at S0
28000Yes on all modes at S0
28277Yes on CW 28275.80 at S0
LSB  28277.70 at S0
USB  28275.60 at S0
29483Yes on CW 29480 at S0
LSB  clear
USB  29481.40 at S0
 
All measurements were taken with the pre-amp on. Apart from the strong  
birdie at 14361 of S7 and the internal 4000kHz clock in the K2, all were very  
weak 
and failing to move the S meter.
 
I think if you scrutinise most radios for the amateur market you will find  
such slight imperfections somewhere, though I would suspect that the K2 is  a 
lot better than some. At the end of the day with all such items it is a  
trade-off between the cost the consumer is willing to  pay against perfection 
at any 
price.
 
Bob, G3VVT
K2 #4168
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Re: [Elecraft] Hakko 808 wanted

2004-08-28 Thread David Katinsky
I want to second the importance of using enough heat. Initially, I tried to
remove the enamel at my soldering temp of 750 and it did work, but took
forever and was fairly frustrating. After deciding to move my temp up to 800
for this process, it was literally 5x faster and easier.

David N2RDT

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 From: Ron D'Eau Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 00:07:43 -0700
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Hakko 808 wanted
 
 When using my
 soldering station, I crank up the heat to 800 F for removing enamel. (That's
 one of the features I like about the Hakko soldering stations - a knob to
 adjust the temperature with!)

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Re: [Elecraft] Hakko wire striping was Hakko 808 wanted

2004-08-28 Thread Don Brown
Hi

I think I was the first to post this method several years ago. I have a Hakko 
706 that I used for many years. This model is no longer made by Hakko. It is a 
separate gun and station with the pump in the base unit. 

Someone posted a method to strip the leads using a Weller soldering gun with a 
1/16 inch hole drilled into the tip. You inserted the wire into the hole added 
some solder and slowly pulled the wire through the hole while adding more 
solder. This sounded like an improvement on the solder blob method so I wanted 
to try it. I did not have a Weller soldering gun to try it on but then it hit 
me the desoldering station would do the same thing. So I tried it and was 
amazed when I pulled the trigger and the lead was perfectly stripped and tined. 
I have been doing it this way ever since. 

I still have my 706 but bought a 808 also. I was not sure I would like the 808 
because of the larger gun with the built in pump. After using it I found it is 
not a problem. The 808 has a more powerful pump and better tips (and cheaper 
tips) than the 706. It is also easier to clean. It is getting hard to find 
parts for the 706 as it has been out of production for many years. I now use 
the 808 most of the time when I need to remove a component or strip a toroid 
lead.

Don Brown
KD5NDB

  - Original Message - 
  From: Tom Hammondmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: Brian Murymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; 
elecraft@mailman.qth.netmailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
  Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 11:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Hakko 808 wanted


  Hi Bryan:

  It bears NO similarity, other than the fact that the solder's heating the 
  enamel and causing it to melt.

  This method takes about 3-4 seconds to accomplish while the solder-blob 
  method usually takes 8-10 seconds and is not nrealy as easy to accomplish, 
  though I still feel the solder blob method is the next best way to tin leads.

  too bad you can't find someone locally to try it out... the difference is 
  astounding.

  Tom


  At 07:29 PM 8/27/04, Brian Mury wrote:
  Thanks Tom.
  

  SNIP
   
I don't recall who first posted it here (maybe Don Brown), but here goes:
   
  SNIP
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Re: [Elecraft] Re: Elecraft Digest, Vol 4, Issue 28

2004-08-28 Thread Tom Hammond

Jerry:


There is one thing I would add for stripping the toroids with the Hakko
808...Holding the toroid in your fingers WILL  burn your finger tips, the
copper wire conducts the heat almost immediately...Holding the toroid
with pliers might damage the enamel...Place the toroid on the workbench
and place a weight on it, covering only half the toroid and leaving the
wires exposed...The weight keeps the toroid from moving around, leaves
the other hand free for adding solder, and saves your fingertips...


Might I humbly suggest merely holding the toroid at the OTHER end of the 
wire being tinned...?  E.g. tinning lead #1, hold closer to the Lead #2 
side of the core. The heat dissipates quickly as it goes around a few tunrs 
of the core.


Several folks have also had good luck sticking their toroids on a pencil 
point... or into a long, slightly tapered wooden dowel.


73,

Tom   N0SS

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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM

2004-08-28 Thread Donald Nesbitt
Hi Bob  all  - I've been using N1MM Logger with my K2 for a long time with
good results.

Particulars are: a P1 233 mhz 80 meg ram Win 98 SE old IBM laptop with a
real RS232 port and using N1MM Logger V 3.221.  I have not used the LPT
port for keying but run control and keying from the single serial port.  I
have not tried Logger Version 4.0. xxx on this machine.  More on that later.
When running the program I generally keep all other resources on the CPU to
a minimum and have never had a problem with speed, etc.

For keying, I use a simple one transistor interface built into an RS232 plug
with two (2) diodes on the keyline in order to use the External Keying
Auto-Detect feature of the K2 as shown in Figure 8-1 on page 92 of my K2
(serial #2028) manual.  This works like a champ!  You might want to try the
two diode trick when using the parallel port.

At the computer, I have a regular RS232 splitter (getting harder and harder
to fine these days!) and put my keyer on one of the splits and my K2
special control cable on the other.

If you look at the latest version of the Help manual, you will find some
information there that I wrote for using filter selection codes with the K2.

RE: Logger Version 4.0.xxx - I am running version 4.0.113 on another machine
with another rig and have not tried it with the K2.  The other machine is
a P4 2.4 g 512 meg ram Win XP Home laptop without any physical RS232 ports -
only USB.  I'm using this one with an Icom 756 Pro II.  The results here are
mixed.  Rig control for the 756 Pro II seems pretty flaky on my system with
some of the operations either not working at all or working intermittently
and frequently causing me to either shut down the rig and restart or do the
same with the program or both!  Tom is apparently working on actually making
keying via a serial port converter (USB to RS232) a possibility with version
4.  Keying via the parallel port apparently works with version 4.0.xxx
(although I never used it in V3 apparently it works very well) but if you
are using an XP machine (with either V3 or V4) you will need to download and
install a parallel port program that will support the LPT selection.  As I
recall, either dlportio.zip or port95nt.exe will do the job and information
is available on the web site.  I'm still hoping that eventually they will
get the keying going through the same USB to RS232 converter.  At some point
I may give LPT keying a try.  There has been lots of information on using it
on the group reflector.  Looks simple enough.

It is a very impressive program! Tom and the guys (and gals?) that work with
him on coding the various modules are very talented.  I'm still amazed that
the program is free!  73 es gud dx  --don n4hh K2/100 #2028 KAT100, etc, etc


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From: Bob Tellefsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: J F [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] N1MM


 Hi Julius
 I'm in the process of setting up N1MM and my K2.  So far I have
 serial communications working just fine, but I can't get keying out of
 the LPT1 port yet.

 What settings have you found that affect this?

 Thanks and 73
 Bob N6WG
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[Elecraft] KAT100 relay problem !!!

2004-08-28 Thread JEAN-FRANCOIS MENARD

Hi,

I have completed the KAT100...

Evething seems to work fine: I can change between ANT1 and ANT2 for 
each band, the LOW and HIGH power led is correctly controlled by the K2 
also...


But when I want to test each relay, I heard nothing at all !!!

I found that when I did the resistance checks, that the pins 3 and 6 of 
U6 gave me nothing... but everything else was OK.


The damn thing it's my first problem I really have from the beginning 
of the K2 kit... I have every options built right the first time each 
time... but not the KAT100 the last one !!!


Thanks for your help.

73


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[Elecraft] Thin Audio

2004-08-28 Thread Fred Bongard
I have been battling a problem with my sideband adapter for the K2. The 
receive audio on both sidebands (upper is much worse than lower) sounds 
very thin. When a station is not tuned, the received static has a tiny 
shrill quality. I used spectrogram to align the filters and the 
curves produced very closely resemble those depicted in N0SS 
instructions. Yes, I have checked that the BFO settings are appropriate 
to the lowest pitch of the BFO range. I have redone the alignments 
several times and still get the same result. Compared to my other rigs, 
the K2 is much thinner and is reminiscent of an old 6 transistor radio 
compared to a boom box. Even with an external speaker (A Collins 
312B-3) the sound is objectionable. I aligned the CW filters in the 
same way and they work normally. It is fair to say that I have never 
been happy with the sound on sideband. I have checked the SSB adapter 
board for assembly errors, but have found none. It is clear that I am 
either making a systematic error in the alignment procedure, or there 
is something wrong with the adapter. Any and all thoughts would be 
appreciated.


Fred Bongard
WB6JLL

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT100 relay problem !!!

2004-08-28 Thread JEAN-FRANCOIS MENARD

I know what I did

U2 wrong side. works to late 


Le 04-08-28, à 13:00, JEAN-FRANCOIS MENARD a écrit :


Hi,

I have completed the KAT100...

Evething seems to work fine: I can change between ANT1 and ANT2 for 
each band, the LOW and HIGH power led is correctly controlled by the 
K2 also...


But when I want to test each relay, I heard nothing at all !!!

I found that when I did the resistance checks, that the pins 3 and 6 
of U6 gave me nothing... but everything else was OK.


The damn thing it's my first problem I really have from the beginning 
of the K2 kit... I have every options built right the first time each 
time... but not the KAT100 the last one !!!


Thanks for your help.

73


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Re: [Elecraft] Re: Elecraft Digest, Vol 4, Issue 28

2004-08-28 Thread Brian Mury
I have one of those pairs of tweezers that you squeeze to open, and
release to close. I use those to hold the toroid - they're a lot gentler
than pliers would be. As for the solder - I leave the roll on the
desktop with a length of solder unrolled and bent upwards so I can touch
the wire and iron to the end.

On Sat, 2004-08-28 at 07:54, Tom Hammond wrote:
 Jerry:
 
 There is one thing I would add for stripping the toroids with the Hakko
 808...Holding the toroid in your fingers WILL  burn your finger tips, the
 copper wire conducts the heat almost immediately...Holding the toroid
 with pliers might damage the enamel...Place the toroid on the workbench
 and place a weight on it, covering only half the toroid and leaving the
 wires exposed...The weight keeps the toroid from moving around, leaves
 the other hand free for adding solder, and saves your fingertips...
 
 Might I humbly suggest merely holding the toroid at the OTHER end of the 
 wire being tinned...?  E.g. tinning lead #1, hold closer to the Lead #2 
 side of the core. The heat dissipates quickly as it goes around a few tunrs 
 of the core.
 
 Several folks have also had good luck sticking their toroids on a pencil 
 point... or into a long, slightly tapered wooden dowel.
 
 73,
 
 Tom   N0SS
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 VCO alignment

2004-08-28 Thread Don Wilhelm

Paul,

8 volts on R30 usually means the VCO is not oscillating.  Try your counter 
probe on TP1 to see if there is any frequency indicated - if so, check that 
the frequency is correct for the band you are on (likely 40 meters at this 
stage of construction) - the low band edge frequencies are listed in 
Appendix B of the manual on the K2 Schematic Key sheet.


If you have no frequency indication at TP1, put the probe (carefully so not 
to short adjacent pins) on U3 pin 3.  If you have a nearly correct frequency 
at either of these locations, the VCO is oscillating and the trouble lies 
elsewhere.


Let us know what you find.

73,
Don W3FPR

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I am on page 61 of the K2 manual on VCO alignment. All
previous tests have been OK. In connecting a DMM to
ground and R30 I get a reading of 8 volts, which is
unacceptable. I have rewound T5, replaced C72 with a
new cap and replaced L30. I have also verified that
the 6 varactor diodes are of proper values. Any ideas
out there? Thanks Paul, NN5G




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RE: [Elecraft] Thin Audio

2004-08-28 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Whups... Sorry but I meant to point out in my prior message that there's a
mod to fix the pre S/N 3000 K2's 2nd XFIL slope on the Elecraft web site as
well as mods for the other things. All of the audio quality issues that have
been uncovered over the past several years since the K2 was developed have
been addressed and fixed either by changes to the basic K2 or by mods for
the older units. 

It sure that if someone comes up with a new issue, there'll be a fix
developed for it as well! That's one of the most talked-about sources of
great satisfaction among Elecraft customers. If something can be improved,
Wayne and Eric are right there helping or encouraging ops to do it. Many of
the improvements are kitted for retrofit in the older rigs and they are
periodically incorporated in the basic new rigs being shipped. 

Ron AC7AC



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[Elecraft] Control board resistance checks on K2, help a newbie please!

2004-08-28 Thread Jason Marten

Hi everyone,

I'm trying to do the resistance checks at the end of the control board part. 
 A lot of the values seem right, but I'm not sure about some of them.  Due 
to inexperience in kit building and using a DMM, I may just be reading 
things wrong (I have built a couple of small kits).


For Q1 collector, Q2 collector, U6 pin 13, U6 pin 14, U8 pin 15 and U8 pin 
16, I get a reading of 0L on my BK Tool Kit model 2704B DMM.  This is the 
value that's normally displayed when you turn the knob to measure resistance 
and have an open circuit (i.e. the test leads aren't connected to anything). 
 Does this mean I have an open circuit somewhere, or is the 0L mean 
infinite resistance (which would be OK on the checks)?  The K2 manual says 
some DMM's will flash for infinite resistance.  I have never seen my DMM 
flash, and I can't find anything about flashing or OL in the manual.  Or, 
are there other places to look to make sure I've done things right?  
Everything appears fine based on a visual inspection (to my untrained eyes, 
at least).


Otherwise, values for P2 pin 1, U5 OUT, U4 OUT, U3 pin 8, U6 pin 29, U6 pin 
30, and U8 pin 2 seem correct.  Actually, for P2 pin 1, my DMM starts off in 
the negative and then continues to increase at a slow rate.  Is this normal?


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[Elecraft] Broke T50-10 toroid !!

2004-08-28 Thread Rich McCabe
Guess I was pulling too hard winding toroids and broke one of the low pass
T-50s. I was planning on finishing the 100 watt unit tomorrow and will go
ahead and finish assembly and as much alignment as I can.

Any comments on putting this thing online until the new part comes?  Seems
logical the way the lowpass is laid out, I should be able to run all bands
but the one that is missing the low pass filter?? Any comments.

73,
Rich
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RE:[Elecraft] Control board resistance checks on K2, help a newbie please

2004-08-28 Thread James T. Jim Rogers
Jason wrote:
For Q1 collector, Q2 collector, U6 pin 13, U6 pin 14, U8 pin 15 and U8 pin
16, I get a reading of 0L on my BK Tool Kit model 2704B DMM.  This is the
value that's normally displayed when you turn the knob to measure resistance
and have an open circuit (i.e. the test leads aren't connected to anything).
  Does this mean I have an open circuit somewhere, or is the 0L mean
infinite resistance (which would be OK on the checks)?

Jason, same difference, infinite resistance is open circuit. I have
forgotten exactly what my resistance checks measured at this point, but I
would say, keep on truckin'. The main thing you are looking for is something
that would measure very low, and consequently you might let the smoke out of
some part. Don't be concerned about your DMM not flashing. All DMMs behave
somewhat differently from one another. The slow change you observed on P2
pin 1 is probably the 22ufd cap charging up. Again nothing to be concerned
about. I would say you are doing great.

73 Jim, W4ATK
K2/100 #4028

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Re: [Elecraft] Broke T50-10 toroid !!

2004-08-28 Thread Don Brown
Hi

I don't know it it will work or not but I have heard of superglueing them back 
together and they work fine. Worth a try until you get a replacement


Don Brown

KD5NDB
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rich McCabemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: Elecraft Reflectormailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
  Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 6:08 PM
  Subject: [Elecraft] Broke T50-10 toroid !!


  Guess I was pulling too hard winding toroids and broke one of the low pass
  T-50s. I was planning on finishing the 100 watt unit tomorrow and will go
  ahead and finish assembly and as much alignment as I can.

  Any comments on putting this thing online until the new part comes?  Seems
  logical the way the lowpass is laid out, I should be able to run all bands
  but the one that is missing the low pass filter?? Any comments.

  73,
  Rich
  kd0zv


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[Elecraft] K2/100 For Sale

2004-08-28 Thread Brian Hunter

Hi I am selling my K2 (Sn 301) with the following;

K2 HF Transceiver
KPA100 100W Option
KSB2 SSB Option
K160RX  160m Option
KDSP2  DSP Option
KAT100  100W Ext. Auto Tuner
Kenwood Hand Mic

Everything appears to work as specified. The radio was sent back for 
some help on the KPA100 back in Aug 2002 and returned fully tuned up.


Mods Included;
PSK31 Mod
2nd XFIL Mod

I believe that all the included Options add up to about $1550 plus the 
Hand mic, construction time, tune up/setup by Elecraft etc etc.


I'm looking for $1500 plus shipping ( to the continental US only ). 
Payment via Paypal or Money Order only.


Please reply off the mailing list to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks
Brian

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[Elecraft] Gary's Top Ten List of Kit failures

2004-08-28 Thread KEN N4SO
Needs to be added to all kits or sent to all new 
kit builders.
I converted the HTML  to a text file.
About 14K.
from http://www.elecraft.com/Apps/gary's_top_10.htm

Ken  N4SO  Mobile, AL
K2   #3394


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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

2004-08-28 Thread Kevin Rock

Good Evening Folks,

Just got home from a very long wedding and I feel beat.  Hopefully the 
bands will be quiet tomorrow.  I worked a few folks over in Europe earlier 
today.  Odd thing is they wanted my grid square.  You'd think I was in the 
middle of a VHF/UHF contest; but no, I was on 20 meters.  I was trying to 
find the Hawaii QSO Party but somehow or another wound up in the Top of 
Europe Grid Contest.  I was wondering what the CQ GRID TEST was all about 
but got the skinny from SM3X.  Very fine signals from those folks.  Some 
warbling but the contacts were solid.


The Elecraft CW Net will be held tomorrow:
Sunday 2300z (Sunday 4pm PDT) 14050 kHz
Monday 0200z (Sunday 7pm PDT)  7045 kHz

Please visit our web site: http://ecn.visionseer.com/ for further details.
Thank you for the web space Dan.

Stop by tomorrow so we can chat a spell.  No hurry just a few contacts on 
a Sunday evening.


73 and stay well,
   Kevin.  KD5ONS (Net Control Operator 5th Class)
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