Re: [Elecraft] Re: size of radio limits?

[Jeff Stai]

I want this on a T-shirt! - jeff wk6i

wayne burdick wrote:


I'm the principal designer of the K3. I agonized over 
size/weight/functionality constraints for a full year, with a lot of 
help from twelve very smart colleagues, including my Elecraft co-founder 
Eric (WA6HHQ). Dozens of variables were debated. I went through over 200 
iterations of the concept drawing. You could burn my 2005 phone bill to 
power a small town. I lost most of my hair, buried two cats, had a son, 
and worked until dawn more times than I want to admit.


What you see is what you get  :)



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[Elecraft] Re: size of radio limits?

[wayne burdick]

Charles,

I'm the principal designer of the K3. I agonized over 
size/weight/functionality constraints for a full year, with a lot of 
help from twelve very smart colleagues, including my Elecraft 
co-founder Eric (WA6HHQ). Dozens of variables were debated. I went 
through over 200 iterations of the concept drawing. You could burn my 
2005 phone bill to power a small town. I lost most of my hair, buried 
two cats, had a son, and worked until dawn more times than I want to 
admit.


What you see is what you get  :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Jul 26, 2007, at 11:06 PM, Charles Harpole wrote:


I do not accept Elecraft's reasoning...




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[Elecraft] size of radio limits?

[Charles Harpole]

I do not accept Elecraft's reasoning that their rig is "too small for that 
feature."  At under 9 lbs, and the dimensions less than a loaf of bread, the 
K3 is already so small that it is nearing functional limits on the front 
panel compared to the size of fingers.  And, yes, I think the IC-706 went 
well beyond the functional limit... too small.


Ok, let us say a couple of desired features, like band stacking registers, 
would have added a half inch height to the front panel oh, gee, what a 
horror!  Let us say another feature  like band buttons or two other features 
would have added a whole pound to its weight, oh, no, its maybe even 12 
pounds & I can't carry it !!!


Please, when a radio is this small, sacrificing reasonable other features 
because of size or weight is just not a reasonable excuse in my book.  Cost, 
maybe;  size, no.


When ever did a ham say, "oh gosh, this radio is just too big"?  Maybe the 
one day when he carries it onto his desk?  Many more likely say, as I have 
hrd so often, "the rig is too llittle for me."  So where is the drive coming 
from for smaller is better?


Ok, mobile rigs need to be small.  So, I am going mobile with my K3 ?  not, 
and few are, I bet.  There does not even seem to be a mobile mount sold with 
it, telling us something there.


"I need a light rig for DXpeditions"-- got one already (706), and how few K3 
owners will go on DXpeditions? Maybe 2 dozen?  So, maybe the need for a 
small K3 amounts to about 100 mobile uses and maybe 50 DXpeditioners.  For 
150 customers, lets design a small radio and let the other thousands of 
buyers  cope with tiny, but, let us excuse left off features by saying 
"everyone wanted it small"  Ha !


BUT, please keep my order for a K3 kit active    73

Charles Harpole
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RE: [Elecraft] vibroplex bug

[Arie Kleingeld PA3A]

Fred,

I had the same problem 30 yrs ago. Ended up working the keyer with my
left hand and the vibroplex with my right. Instant switching is possible
without any mistake.

Hope this helps.

73
Arie PA3A






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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Band Stacking registers?

[J. Edward (Ed) Muns]

I think this is covered in the FAQ under 'Memory'.  It talks about M1-M4
being band-stacking registers on a per-band basis.

73,
Ed - W0YK 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wayne burdick
> Sent: Thursday, 26 July, 2007 22:09
> To: Don Rasmussen
> Cc: Elecraft List
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band Stacking registers?
> 
> 
> On Jul 26, 2007, at 9:57 PM, Don Rasmussen wrote:
> 
> > The "band stacking" registers topic is one that I think could be 
> > clarified in the FAQ.
> 
> Don,
> 
> One other point we may not have covered in the FAQ. Of the 
> 100 general-purpose memories (which doesn't include the 
> M1..M4 per-band memories), memories 1-9 can be accessed with 
> a shortcut method: Just tap M->V, then 1-9 on the keypad. I'd 
> recommend using these to get to your 9 favorite bands (or 
> frequencies) if you don't want to use the BAND UP/DN switches 
> or enter the MHz value using FREQ ENT.
> 
> Of course once you're on the desired band, you can then use M->V with
> M1..M4 to get to four additional favorite frequencies/modes 
> on each band. Every memory stores both VFOs, filter presets, etc.
> 
> The reason we didn't provide individual band-stacking 
> switches is that the K3, unlike other rigs in this class, is 
> not big enough to have its own zip code. We used the 
> available space for buttons assigned to often used functions 
> like preamp, attenuator, AGC, NR, NB, notch, etc. We think 
> it's a good tradeoff.
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band Stacking registers?

[wayne burdick]

On Jul 26, 2007, at 9:57 PM, Don Rasmussen wrote:


The "band stacking" registers topic is one that I
think could be clarified in the FAQ.


Don,

One other point we may not have covered in the FAQ. Of the 100 
general-purpose memories (which doesn't include the M1..M4 per-band 
memories), memories 1-9 can be accessed with a shortcut method: Just 
tap M->V, then 1-9 on the keypad. I'd recommend using these to get to 
your 9 favorite bands (or frequencies) if you don't want to use the 
BAND UP/DN switches or enter the MHz value using FREQ ENT.


Of course once you're on the desired band, you can then use M->V with 
M1..M4 to get to four additional favorite frequencies/modes on each 
band. Every memory stores both VFOs, filter presets, etc.


The reason we didn't provide individual band-stacking switches is that 
the K3, unlike other rigs in this class, is not big enough to have its 
own zip code. We used the available space for buttons assigned to often 
used functions like preamp, attenuator, AGC, NR, NB, notch, etc. We 
think it's a good tradeoff.


73,
Wayne
N6KR


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[Elecraft] K3 Band Stacking registers?

[Don Rasmussen]

The "band stacking" registers topic is one that I
think could be clarified in the FAQ. I read the FAQ to
say, rudimentary band changing, maybe not quite as
good with respect to the usual band stacking registers
on other transceivers. 

I had the actual K3 band registers explained to me in
a private email by a K3 beta tester.

With the K3 scheme, you need to press the BAND UP or
BAND DN a few times in most cases before you reach the
band of interest, where using the (example IC756p,
OMNI VI+) "keypad" band changing option there is one
button press and you are immediately on the band you
want to be.

The mind tells you that by having to make multiple
presses on the K3 band key before you see the band of
interest, there is some performance penalty using this
scheme for band changes as compared to keypad band
stack registers.

The advantage to the K3 scheme is that after you find
the correct band by tapping that BAND button, you have
FOUR non-stacked band registers M1, M2, M3, M4 ready
for immediate use on the desired band. They are not
toggled at random to "unstack" as they would be on the
keypad implementation.

That's a real advantage because you can store M1-M4
away in a manner so that they are known, M1 will
always be CW freq, mode and bandwidth, M2 might be a
SSB config, M3 for AM and M4 RTTY for example. 

I guess in marketing speak, the K3 has "Quad" band
registers although it's not implemented like the
competitor's "on the keypad" band stacking.


How do you change bands on the K3? Do you have to
toggle through all the bands to get to the desired
one? 

You can change bands in several ways:

- With the BAND UP and BAND DOWN buttons
- Using direct frequency entry; two methods:
1. Enter a frequency in MHz and then a decimal
point, e.g. "7."  jumps to 7.000 MHz (40 meters)
2. Enter a frequency in kHz and then a decimal
point, e.g. "1825." jumps to 1.825 MHz (160 meters)
- Using general-purpose memories (100) for your
favorite bands/modes, including 5-character names that
you assign to each memory)
- Using a computer program to control the radio

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[Elecraft] K2 broken after KPA100 mod

[Steve Kallal]

I am about done with part 1 of the assembly of the KPA100 option. I opened
the K2 and removed pin 4 from P4 on the control board per the instructions.
Rather than connect the partially assembled KPA100 to the K2, I powered up
the K2 first. Now the K2 doesn't initialize.
 
Here are the symptoms:
 
1. I power up the K2. There is no visual indication the unit is powered up.
 
2. I turn the K2 off and power it on again. This time the LCD display shows
ELECrAFt and stops there. There are LEDs lit on the S meter.
 
I've double checked and am sure I cut the right pin. It is the header that
connects to the KIO2 unit I think. The control board has been reseated and
number of times to be sure.
 
I didn't build the K2 and bought it used recently. So I don't know my way
around the rig. I was hoping to finish the KPA100 option this weekend, but
now I need to get the K2 working again.
 
73,
 
Steve N6VL
 
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RE: [Elecraft] vibroplex bug

[Chris Kantarjiev]

I got the bug bug about a year ago, and found a 1923 Vibroplex in decent
shape. Yeah, the dot rate is way too fast to learn with. After exploring
many options for slowing it, I went to a local hobby shop and got a bit
of brass tubing that has an ID that is a slip fit over the rod. About 6"
did it for me - slows the dots right down and still allows me to do
some adjusting.

73 de chris K6DBG

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Re: [Elecraft] My K2/100 is up and running, first go :)

[Don Wilhelm]

James,

From what I have read, it all depends on the kind of thermal compound 
that is used.  If you rate them in terms of thermal conductivity only, 
some are slightly better than the thermal pads and some are worse.
OTOH, if you rate thermal paste in terms of 'messiness', it is far, far 
worse than the thermal pads.  With thermal paste there are several 
variables - how thick a coating?, how much pressure on the mounting 
screws? - yes with the thermal pads it is necessary to go back after 10 
to 20 hours of operating at high power to snug the mounting screws down 
again, but IMHO, that is a small price to pay for the 'neatness' and 
repeatability of the thermal pads.


73,
Don W3FPR

James Cutler wrote:
Just a quick note to say that I have built the KPA100 and installed and 
aligned it, and it is working fine on all bands. When I built my K2 at 
the beginning of the year, it also worked fine, and still is. I have to 
say that over all, I am happy with the radio, and it's performance.


I have one query though, I am wondering why Elecraft have opted to use 
thermal pads on the PA transistors in the KPA100 as opposed to heat 
paste? (A lot of linear amplifiers that I have seen over the years use 
thermal paste on the PA transistors without apparent problems.) I just 
suspect that the thermal resistance of a thermal transfer pad may be 
higher than that of thermal paste..please advise me if I am way off 
on this point.

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Re: [Elecraft] My K2/100 is up and running, first go :)

[Matthew D. Pitts]

James,

My feeling is that since they were using that for the base K2, they felt 
that it would be good enough for the KPA100; and it seems to have been true, 
since I don't know of any failures that can be attributed to the thermal 
pads. Just my two cents(US)


Matthew Pitts
N8OHU
K2 #5956

- Original Message - 
From: "James Cutler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 7:41 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] My K2/100 is up and running, first go :)


Just a quick note to say that I have built the KPA100 and installed and 
aligned it, and it is working fine on all bands. When I built my K2 at the 
beginning of the year, it also worked fine, and still is. I have to say 
that over all, I am happy with the radio, and it's performance.


I have one query though, I am wondering why Elecraft have opted to use 
thermal pads on the PA transistors in the KPA100 as opposed to heat paste? 
(A lot of linear amplifiers that I have seen over the years use thermal 
paste on the PA transistors without apparent problems.) I just suspect 
that the thermal resistance of a thermal transfer pad may be higher than 
that of thermal paste..please advise me if I am way off on this point.


Cheers and 73 to all..

James Cutler,
VK2TIM

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[Elecraft] My K2/100 is up and running, first go :)

[James Cutler]

Just a quick note to say that I have built the KPA100 and installed and 
aligned it, and it is working fine on all bands. When I built my K2 at 
the beginning of the year, it also worked fine, and still is. I have to 
say that over all, I am happy with the radio, and it's performance.


I have one query though, I am wondering why Elecraft have opted to use 
thermal pads on the PA transistors in the KPA100 as opposed to heat 
paste? (A lot of linear amplifiers that I have seen over the years use 
thermal paste on the PA transistors without apparent problems.) I just 
suspect that the thermal resistance of a thermal transfer pad may be 
higher than that of thermal paste..please advise me if I am way off 
on this point.


Cheers and 73 to all..

James Cutler,
VK2TIM

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[Elecraft] KX1 and G5RV

[nv9z]

Anybody using a G5RV or 1/2 size G5RV with thier KX1 and if so, what 
kind of results are you getting?


Thanks and 73/72,

Chris Blaase NV9Z
Hagerstown IN

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[Elecraft] WTB :K2 100W+ALL OPTION

[elan paim]

looking for k2 100w with all option have to be from a pro job only 
  and in the UK area 
  please send picture and price 
  many thanks 
  Elan g0uut norfolk
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Re: [Elecraft] W1 as field strength meter?

[Larry]

I had the WM1 and don't think thats possible.
It is possible with the LP-100 digital vector rf wattmeter by N8LP.
http://www.telepostinc.com/lp100.html

I'm very pleased with LP-100.

73
Larry
WA2DGD



Kurt Loken wrote:

Hello All,

Is is possible to use the W1 Computing Wattmeter as a
field strength meter?  Anyone done this?

Regards,

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware upload

[AJSOENKE]

Don't lose sight of the original intent of the  system as originally 
explained. It was for the Developers and the Beta Testers  to have a readily 
available 
method of staying in sync with each other.   From what I have read I don't 
see any indication that by the time we need an  update we won't have a plethora 
of options.

Also, we are all behaving as  though Elecraft won't be able to deliver a 
product without our having a way to  upgrade it before the shipping container 
is 
separated from the  contents.

BTW,  with all the clamor to get the technologically  newest rig it amazes me 
that there is such a debate on the cheapest and least  technologically 
advanced way to acquire upgrade data. I'm sure the rigs will  work while we 
wait for 
a delivery in the mail if we must  ;) ( PS I've  wasted many more hours 
chasing drivers for linux software than any other system  I've used in 51 years 
of 
computing - Royal-McBee LGP-30 grad)

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Re: [Elecraft] vibroplex bug

[AJSOENKE]

I used to stick a blob of plumbers putty on mine so the kids could practice  
their CW at first.
 
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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware upload

[J. Edward (Ed) Muns]

This thread has gone on too long and information previously provided is
being lost in subsequent posts.  Elecraft is well aware of the varying needs
of its customers for easy updating of K3 firmware.  The current method being
used in Field Test may or may not be ONE of the methods available to
customers.  Under consideration are a number of different options from which
a customer can choose what works best for his individual situation.  The
important point is that the K3 firmware is very easily updated, regardless
of which method is used.  Stay tuned for more information on the actual
customer updating options when Elecraft is able to provide it.

73,
Ed - W0YK

> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Woolley
> Sent: Thursday, 26 July, 2007 14:42
> To: 'Elecraft Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware upload
> 
> J. Edward (Ed) Muns wrote:
> > your K3 vs. what the latest version is available on the server.  If 
> > you want to download, simply click the 'Download' button, wait 2-3 
> > minutes and that's it.
> 
> This thread concerns me. The download mechanism seems 
> seriously over-engineered and to have built in obsolescence.
> 
> Whilst one might provide more user friendly wrappers for the 
> upload protocol, I can see no sound reason why it should not 
> have been designed so that one can upload updates using 
> almost any off the shelf terminal emulator program, 
> preferably as simply as a straight dump of an Intel hex file 
> to the K3.
> 
> By forcing people to use a Windows application, Elecraft are 
> requiring the use of a specific brand of software and the use 
> of hardware that is orders of magnitude more powerful than 
> actually needed to do the job, when the former should never 
> be a requirement for using the K3 and the latter is not a requirement.
> 
> The built in obsolescence arises because the Microsoft 
> revenue generation model depends on forcing people to 
> continually update software to stand still.  This tends to 
> mean that any Windows dependent software must be regularly updated.
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[Elecraft] Equipment Carts and More on Softrock

[Don Rasmussen]

Great work Jack, this will give me something to do
with the Softrock lite kits I have while waiting for
the K3. Great page!


[Elecraft] Equipment Carts and More on Softrock
Jack Smith Jack.Smith at cliftonlaboratories.com 
Thu Jul 26 17:11:59 EDT 2007 

Recent updates at my web site include audio isolation
transformers for  Softrock receivers and a brief
review ...

http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/Updates.htm has the
instrument cart review and links to the Softrock and
prototyping page.

73 de Jack K8ZOA


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[Elecraft] K3 Firmware upload

[Don Rasmussen]

David - read through all the threads - Elecraft does
not intend to force anyone into the hands of the evil
M empire ;-) Rest assured when it comes time to have a
K3 firmware update, a satisfactory method if not many
methods will be available!


[Elecraft] K3 Firmware upload
David Woolley forums at david-woolley.me.uk 
Thu Jul 26 17:41:46 EDT 2007 




By forcing people to use a Windows application,
Elecraft are requiring 
the use of a specific brand of software and the use of
hardware that is 
orders of magnitude more powerful than actually needed
to do the job, 
when the former should never be a requirement for
using the K3 and the 
latter is not a requirement.

 



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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware upload

[David Woolley]

J. Edward (Ed) Muns wrote:

your K3 vs. what the latest version is available on the server.  If you want
to download, simply click the 'Download' button, wait 2-3 minutes and that's
it.


This thread concerns me. The download mechanism seems seriously 
over-engineered and to have built in obsolescence.


Whilst one might provide more user friendly wrappers for the upload 
protocol, I can see no sound reason why it should not have been designed 
so that one can upload updates using almost any off the shelf terminal 
emulator program, preferably as simply as a straight dump of an Intel 
hex file to the K3.


By forcing people to use a Windows application, Elecraft are requiring 
the use of a specific brand of software and the use of hardware that is 
orders of magnitude more powerful than actually needed to do the job, 
when the former should never be a requirement for using the K3 and the 
latter is not a requirement.


The built in obsolescence arises because the Microsoft revenue 
generation model depends on forcing people to continually update 
software to stand still.  This tends to mean that any Windows dependent 
software must be regularly updated.


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[Elecraft] vibroplex bug

[jpgabbard]

I hit on an inexpensive way to slow down my bug. I took a crimp on connector 
like is used on the DC cable and spread it apart so it will slide over the end 
of the vibrating arm's tip. Get a 1/4" X 1/2" bolt, washers and nut. insert the 
bolt upside down through the hole in the connector. Start adding washers plus 
the nut till you slow it down to the speed you want. it worked great for me. 
Good Luck, John  KF7OM
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RE: [Elecraft] vibroplex bug

[John]

At 02:54 PM 26/07/07, you wrote:

-Original Message-

On Jul 26, 2007, at 12:51 PM, Ken W5HYN wrote:

>
> FYI, Vibroplex offers an extension arm (called Vari-speed) to slow
> down their bugs and it makes fine tuning speed easy.  I put one on
> my old Lightning Bug and it will slow down to below 15 wpm.
>

I bought my first bug 55 years ago as a 5 WPM novice.  That arm
wasn't available then, so I drilled a hole in a piece of steel and
attached it to the top of the weight with a longer screw.

Bob, N7XY

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Clothespins and (my favorite) large alligator clips hung onto the pendulum
have done such duty too. Position them so they don't interfere with the
damper action.


I wrapped solder around the weight, that worked.

John
k7up 


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[Elecraft] Equipment Carts and More on Softrock

[Jack Smith]

Recent updates at my web site include audio isolation transformers for 
Softrock receivers and a brief review of a moderately priced instrument 
cart suitable for oscilloscopes or similar gear.  To add K2 content, the 
photo of one cart shows the K2 on the bottom shelf. There's also a 
change to my prototyping page showing an island pad cutting tool. I find 
this to work better than sticking on small bits of PCB with superglue, 
although both techniques have their places.


http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/Updates.htm has the instrument cart 
review and links to the Softrock and prototyping page.


73 de Jack K8ZOA

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[Elecraft] bttery life of K2 using internal battery

[Joseph Trombino Jr]

Am wondering about the typical life of the internal battery for the K2.

Assuming about 2.50 amps of current used when operating at circa 5W and 
given the amp hour rating of the internal battery at 2.9 ah what is the 
typical life of the battery for a typical QRP outing in the field???


I've been toting around a 7 ah gel cell for my K2 but the internal battery 
option sure looks attractive in terms of portability and ease of use.


Would appreciate comments from users who take their K2 to the field.

   73, Joe W2KJ
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RE: [Elecraft] vibroplex bug

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

-Original Message-

On Jul 26, 2007, at 12:51 PM, Ken W5HYN wrote:

>
> FYI, Vibroplex offers an extension arm (called Vari-speed) to slow 
> down their bugs and it makes fine tuning speed easy.  I put one on
> my old Lightning Bug and it will slow down to below 15 wpm.
>

I bought my first bug 55 years ago as a 5 WPM novice.  That arm  
wasn't available then, so I drilled a hole in a piece of steel and  
attached it to the top of the weight with a longer screw.

Bob, N7XY

--

Clothespins and (my favorite) large alligator clips hung onto the pendulum
have done such duty too. Position them so they don't interfere with the
damper action. 

The thickness of the springs in Vibroplex keys has varied widely over the
years, which has affected the minimum speed they would run. That was a
serious problem for many commercial operators at maritime land stations who
had to QRS to 15 wpm or so. At some facilities they weren't allowed to run
over perhaps 20 wpm. One of the keys I own today was given to me by the
widow of an old buddy who sailed as a radio officer during and after WWII
then worked as an operator at coastal station KPH for years before retiring.
In the 1960's for one reason or another he bought a new Vibroplex bug, one
of the ones with the thick, fast springs. His solution was to add a cable
clamp to the pendulum! It works, but it makes for a very heavy feel! I
prefer to use it with an alligator clip to extend the length of the
pendulum. Making the shaft longer has a much greater effect on the speed
with less weight. 

There's a picture of my old buddy, Les, at his key with the cable clamp
weight while operating at KPH at:

http://www.radiomarine.org/historic-5.html

Les (LR) is in the top picture. Note the cable clamp on the bug in the lower
right corner of the picture.

My favorite remains my E.F. Johnson version of the Speed-X bug. It's
probably my favorite because I got mine back in '52, a few months after
earning my General class license. It has a really nifty weight control: a
simple clutch that releases the weight when squeezed so it can be slid back
and forth without messing with thumbscrews, etc. And it never works loose
. And the adjustment range easily runs from about 13 up to over 40 wpm.
The Johnson version of the Speed-X still turns up regularly on the on-line
auction places. 

Ron AC7AC 

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[Elecraft] W1 as field strength meter?

[Kurt Loken]

Hello All,

Is is possible to use the W1 Computing Wattmeter as a
field strength meter?  Anyone done this?

Regards,

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Re: [Elecraft] vibroplex bug

[Fred Jensen]

Scott McDowell wrote:

Hi
I presently own an Elecraft hex key and a speedex straight key, but have 
been thinking
about buying a vibroplex bug to use in contest that don't allow 
electronic keyers.
It's been 30 yrs since I have used a Vibroplex bug and was wondering 
which way it
operates. Do you send the dits with the thumb and the dahs with the 
index finger?
Or is it the reverse? I've been sending the dits with my thumb and the 
dahs with
the index finger too long to try doing the oppsite. Even using a 
straight key tends

to mess me up with the keyer.
Thanks
Scott N5SM


Standard bugs have dits on the thumb.  You could [maybe still can] get a 
"left handed" bug, but they were expensive.  Most lefties I knew, 
including me, just learn to use a bug or paddle right-handed.  We have 
to adapt to a right-handed world anyway :-) although current keyers and 
radios usually let you "switch sides" from a menu.


All of the Vibroplex bugs were/are notorious for high-speed dits.  As a 
teen, I couldn't afford one, but I did have a very proletarian looking 
WW2 surplus J-36 made by Lionel.  It was easily slowed to 7 or 8 WPM 
with the stock weight.  I took some heat from the OT's at the Coastal 
Marine Station I worked at while a senior in high school over it, and it 
was certainly not as sleek and shiny, nor did it have a wood carrying 
case like theirs, but I also didn't have to kludge weights such as you 
can see on the Vibroplex at radiomarine.org/historic-5.html


A friend who was a former USCG radioman, recently gave me his Vibroplex. 
  I try to use it on SKN, but it's a chore. Switching between a bug and 
keyer is harder than one might think.


73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2007 CQP Oct 6-7
- www.cqp.org
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Re: [Elecraft] vibroplex bug

[Bob Nielsen]

On Jul 26, 2007, at 12:51 PM, Ken W5HYN wrote:



FYI, Vibroplex offers an extension arm (called Vari-speed) to slow  
down their bugs and it makes fine tuning speed easy.  I put one on  
my old Lightning Bug and it will slow down to below 15 wpm.




I bought my first bug 55 years ago as a 5 WPM novice.  That arm  
wasn't available then, so I drilled a hole in a piece of steel and  
attached it to the top of the weight with a longer screw.


Bob, N7XY
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RE: [Elecraft] vibroplex bug

[Ken W5HYN]

FYI, Vibroplex offers an extension arm (called Vari-speed) to slow down their 
bugs and it makes fine tuning speed easy.  I put one on my old Lightning Bug 
and it will slow down to below 15 wpm.

Ken, W5HYN
-Original Message-
>From: "Darwin, Keith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Jul 26, 2007 2:18 PM
>To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED] List" 
>Subject: RE: [Elecraft] vibroplex bug
>
>I think if I were to buy a new bug today (I've thought about it), I'd
>get a VIZ bug rather than a Vibroplex.  I believe the VIZ to be a bit
>better built and I hear they are more easily used at the slower speeds
>(15-20 wpm).
>
>What contest doesn't allow keyers?  Maybe the SKCC sprints?
>
>- Keith N1AS -
>- K2 5411.ssb.100 - 
>
>-Original Message-
>... but have been thinking about buying a vibroplex bug to use in
>contest that don't allow electronic keyers.
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RE: [Elecraft] vibroplex bug

[Darwin, Keith]

I think if I were to buy a new bug today (I've thought about it), I'd
get a VIZ bug rather than a Vibroplex.  I believe the VIZ to be a bit
better built and I hear they are more easily used at the slower speeds
(15-20 wpm).

What contest doesn't allow keyers?  Maybe the SKCC sprints?

- Keith N1AS -
- K2 5411.ssb.100 - 

-Original Message-
... but have been thinking about buying a vibroplex bug to use in
contest that don't allow electronic keyers.
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Re: [Elecraft] 21st century connectivity

[AJSOENKE]

Satellite internet can be expensive for individuals, but for small  
communities why not get together and provide a single link with a well planned  
wireless network. Our club ( www.sbarc.org  ) has a wireless site set up on  an 
offshore island, 26 miles away, that it is linked to one of our land  sites so  
the 
total path is over 30 miles. It's 802.11 running a  directional antenna and 
legal power . We also can link it to our mobile van for  working disaster 
communications up the coastal canyons. So for a community that  is essential 
few sq 
mi or so and at least 50 users to pay  for the initial site and monthly fees 
it could work out. 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Off Topic: Manhattan Style Construction

[AJSOENKE]

This was a very popular method of breadboarding  about 20-30 years ago. There 
was a company the sold the special Bits for cutting  the lands (pads) with 
holes in them. different sizes, but all round. By Correct  positioning you 
could 
create rows of holes with lands and then xacto knife and  peel back stripps 
for buss isolation strips etc. I still have the bits I bought  because they are 
very helpful for doing microstrip work on microwave amps etc.  But, I cannot 
find a brand name or any info at this moment. I know if you can  find some 30 
yr old popular electronic or nuts and volts you will see the ads.  I'll try to 
dig into archive this week and see if there are any around  here.

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Re: [Elecraft] vibroplex bug

[John]

At 12:00 PM 26/07/07, you wrote:

 Do you send the dits with the thumb and the dahs with the index finger?


Yes.

John
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RE: [Elecraft] vibroplex bug

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

A "normal" bug of any manufacture uses the thumb for dits and finger for
dahs, just like you do now. 

Some lefties learned to use a normal bug backwards and some lefties bought
special left-handed bugs so they could make dits with their thumb and dahs
with their finger just like right-handed operators on normal bugs.

With the action of paddles being easily reversible in most newer rigs, I've
seen more new operators learning their paddles "backwards". I guess it's all
what one is used to. 

I used bugs for 20 years, then switched to paddles/keyer for 25 years before
going back to a bug almost ten years ago. The big challenge I faced going
back to a bug was learning to do my own spacing and making my own dahs
again. I had gotten used to using a paddle  as a simple "input" device for
the keyer, telling it that I wanted a dit or dah next, and how many. The
keyer logic took care of providing the proper spacing and lengths of dits
and dahs for the speed I was using. 

A bug does none of that. A bug ONLY provides dits, and you must adjust the
pendulum weight for the proper speed of the dits and the contact gap for the
proper length of each dit when you change speed. While sending in "real
time", the operator is responsible for making the right length dahs, setting
the right spacing between dahs, dahs and dits, and between letters and
words.

Learning to do that properly in real time at whatever speed I wanted to use
was the real challenge of returning to a bug. Some ops say they can do it in
a flash. It took me weeks of practicing off the air, and I still do sending
practice regularly (send a page out of the phone book, with numbers and
addresses, then listen to it the next day to see if I like the "fist"). 

Ron AC7AC 

  

-Original Message-

Hi
I presently own an Elecraft hex key and a speedex straight key, but have 
been thinking
about buying a vibroplex bug to use in contest that don't allow electronic 
keyers.
It's been 30 yrs since I have used a Vibroplex bug and was wondering which 
way it
operates. Do you send the dits with the thumb and the dahs with the index 
finger?
Or is it the reverse? I've been sending the dits with my thumb and the dahs 
with
the index finger too long to try doing the oppsite. Even using a straight 
key tends
to mess me up with the keyer.
Thanks
Scott N5SM


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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Parts Vendors

[Jack Smith]

Yes, I've dealt with Dan several times over the last 5 or 10 years and 
never had a problem. In fact, I sent him an order for about $70 last week.


Jack K8ZOA



Matt Palmer wrote:

Has anyone bough parts from www.danssmallpartsandkits.net? Any
comments on the experience?


Matt KD8DAO
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[Elecraft] vibroplex bug

[Scott McDowell]

Hi
I presently own an Elecraft hex key and a speedex straight key, but have 
been thinking
about buying a vibroplex bug to use in contest that don't allow electronic 
keyers.
It's been 30 yrs since I have used a Vibroplex bug and was wondering which 
way it
operates. Do you send the dits with the thumb and the dahs with the index 
finger?
Or is it the reverse? I've been sending the dits with my thumb and the dahs 
with
the index finger too long to try doing the oppsite. Even using a straight 
key tends

to mess me up with the keyer.
Thanks
Scott N5SM

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Software Future Downloads

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

We're running it on Vista here in the lab.

73, Eric

J. Edward (Ed) Muns wrote:

This is right, but note two things.  The current K3 firmware loader we are
using has not been tested on Vista.  And, the final customer alternatives
for updating the K3 firmware are still being finalized.  There may be more
than one alternative available, so as to satisfy users with a recent OS and
Internet access as well as those running DOS and/or without Internet access.
Stay tuned.

  


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[Elecraft] OT: Parts Vendors

[Matt Palmer]

Has anyone bough parts from www.danssmallpartsandkits.net? Any
comments on the experience?


Matt KD8DAO
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[Elecraft] OT - W9DHI here?

[Fred N. van Kempen]

Apologies for going OT !

Is Gregg W9DHI here by chance?  If so: Gregg, pse reply off-list !

Thanks,

Fred PA4YBR K2/100 #05331

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Re: [Elecraft] Off Topic: Manhattan Style Construction

[Robert Tellefsen]

Hi Lee

Well, there are several ways to do Manhattan construction.
You can use a punch to make circular pads, or you can use
a nibbling tool to get small rectangular pads.  I glue mine
down to a surface with Crazy glue.

Components can be mounted vertically or horizontally,
depending on what you are doing.  With vertical mounting,
one lead is very short, soldered directly to its pad.  The other
lead then is bent over and comes down to the other pad.
This works well with resistors, diodes, small molded chokes,
etc.  For disc caps or other components with the leads coming
out of the same side, standing the component up with both
leads out the bottom seems to be best.  Due to layout needs,
sometimes one component will be horizontal, and another
will be vertical, straddling the horizontal part.

Ground connections can be soldered directly to the conductive
substrate, whatever you use.

I have mostly built preamps using Manhattan style building.
I like to build each stage on its own small substrate of PC
material.  I can easily test them before installing them in
an Altoids can.  Great little project boxes :-)  I have
one preamp of three stages, each with its own substrate,
with the substrates soldered to the Altoids can for a
secure ground.

Hope this gives you a few ideas, Lee.  We haven't covered
all of it here, but this should give you some starting ideas.

Good luck and 73
Bob N6WG
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From: "Lee Buller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Elecraft Reflector" 
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 6:29 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] Off Topic: Manhattan Style Construction


>
>
> Sorry for the off topic question, but I am looking for information on tips
and tricks to Manhattan Style Construction.  There was a great article
published on the net several years ago, but it seems to have disappeared.
Anyone have information or where I can get information about this style of
construction?
>
> Lee Buller - K0WA
>
>
>
> In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply.  If you
don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it.  If you
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Sense.  Is Common Sense divine?
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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Software Future Downloads

[J. Edward (Ed) Muns]

This is right, but note two things.  The current K3 firmware loader we are
using has not been tested on Vista.  And, the final customer alternatives
for updating the K3 firmware are still being finalized.  There may be more
than one alternative available, so as to satisfy users with a recent OS and
Internet access as well as those running DOS and/or without Internet access.
Stay tuned.

While you're waiting, it wouldn't hurt to order the .NET 2.0 CD-ROM from
Microsoft.  It's free.  Installing a firmware loader application that uses
.NET 2.0 will invoke the download/installation from Microsoft automatically,
but if you are on a dial-up line, that could be problematic.  So, the CD-ROM
is handy.

73,
Ed - W0YK 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, 26 July, 2007 07:56
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Software Future Downloads
> 
> > Do our computers need MS XP OS to download and install 
> future software 
> > to the K3 or can we still use MS 2000 OS?
> 
> Wayne wrote that the current software uses the .Net 2.0 Framework. 
> 
> 
> Microsoft .Net 2.0 runs on, according to MS:
> 
> Windows 2000 Service Pack 3;
> Windows 98;
> Windows 98 Second Edition;
> Windows ME;
> Windows Server 2003;
> Windows Vista Business;
> Windows Vista Business 64-bit edition;
> Windows Vista Enterprise;
> Windows Vista Enterprise 64-bit edition; Windows Vista Home 
> Basic; Windows Vista Home Basic 64-bit edition; Windows Vista 
> Home Premium; Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit edition; 
> Windows Vista Starter; Windows Vista Ultimate; Windows Vista 
> Ultimate 64-bit edition; Windows XP Service Pack 2.
> 
> 
> Also see:
> 
> Microsoft .NET Framework Version 2.0 Redistributable Package 
> (x86) 
>  EACB-4362-4B0D-8EDD-AAB15C5E04F5&displaylang=en>
> 
> 
> 
> vy 73 de toby
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[Elecraft] Montana & Wyoming

[J F]

My wife and I will be blitzing through Helena,
Yellowstone, Cody and Missoula 3 August to 10 August.
Probably make a stop in Butte as well.

It'd be nice to meet anyone for an eyeball QSO, even a
quickie from the reflector.

Drop me a note off reflector.

Cheers,
Julius
n2wn
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Re: [Elecraft] Off Topic: Manhattan Style Construction

[Christopher Kovacs]

There is an excellent article about Manhattan Building Techniques.  K7QO 
uses an inexpensive hole punch to create the pads.  I have tried this 
technique, and it really is easy and if carefully done, a real work of art.


See:
www.zianet.com/dhassall/advmanart.pdf


Chris,  w0anm
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Software Future Downloads

[dj7mgq]

> Do our computers need MS XP OS to download and install
> future software to the K3 or can we still use MS 2000 OS?

Wayne wrote that the current software uses the .Net 2.0 Framework. 


Microsoft .Net 2.0 runs on, according to MS:

Windows 2000 Service Pack 3; 
Windows 98; 
Windows 98 Second Edition; 
Windows ME; 
Windows Server 2003; 
Windows Vista Business; 
Windows Vista Business 64-bit edition; 
Windows Vista Enterprise; 
Windows Vista Enterprise 64-bit edition; 
Windows Vista Home Basic; 
Windows Vista Home Basic 64-bit edition; 
Windows Vista Home Premium; 
Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit edition; 
Windows Vista Starter; 
Windows Vista Ultimate; 
Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit edition; 
Windows XP Service Pack 2.


Also see:

Microsoft .NET Framework Version 2.0 Redistributable Package (x86)




vy 73 de toby
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RE: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Firmware upload

[J. Edward (Ed) Muns]

> Lyle, are the images Floppy-sized, USB-Stick-sized, CD-Sized, 
> DVD-sized or Super-sized ($1.29 extra)?

The MCU file is 360KB and the DSP is 103KB.

73,
Ed - W0YK 

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[Elecraft] K3 Software Future Downloads

[k1tl]

Do our computers need MS XP OS to download and install
future software to the K3 or can we still use MS 2000 OS?
Thanks.
Tom/k1tl...
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Re: [Elecraft] Off Topic: Manhattan Style Construction

[Jozef Hand-Boniakowski]

Here's what I do  I use double sided PC board material.  I design the 
Manhattan style PC board I want on paper with the islands or buildings 
(squares and rectangles for pads) clearly defined making sure that the 
spacing between the components I am going to solder is correct.  I then 
use good quality tin snips or hacksaw and cut out the islands or 
buildings from more double sided PC board material.  I transfer the 
pattern from paper to a PC board so I know where the pads will go.  I 
then use Krazy Glue to glue the pads down with one or two very small 
drops.  I then solder the parts from pad to pad or pads to the ground plane.


Jozef WB2MIC


Ken Kopp wrote:

Check sheet-metal drills at a machine tool supply house..
Their points specifically produce the circles you want.  The tip and 
the OUTER edge of the cutting face contact the metal at the same time.


I can send you a photo of one if you need.

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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RE: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Firmware upload

[Dan Barker]

Lyle, are the images Floppy-sized, USB-Stick-sized, CD-Sized, DVD-sized or
Super-sized ($1.29 extra)?

Dan / WG4S 


The computer I use to update my K3 uses local file copies rather than the
'net, so this is not a problem.


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Re: [Elecraft] Off Topic: Manhattan Style Construction

[Ken Kopp]

Check sheet-metal drills at a machine tool supply house..
Their points specifically produce the circles you want.  The 
tip and the OUTER edge of the cutting face contact the metal 
at the same time.


I can send you a photo of one if you need.

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Firmware upload

[Lyle Johnson]

It is important that one can load the firmware to the K3 from local
memory as well as directly from the Elecraft server.


The computer I use to update my K3 uses local file copies rather than 
the 'net, so this is not a problem.


73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] 21st century connectivity

[Julian G4ILO]

On 7/26/07, John D'Ausilio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Thankfully I've moved back to civilization and have a cable connection
with 2 Mbit upstream and 10 down :)


I'd love to live in a rural area - enough space to put up outside
antennas, far enough from neighbours and all their
interference-creating appliances. What bliss! I'd willingly put up
with an unreliable internet connection for that.

But my XYL wants to live within walking distance of town, so that's that!
--
Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392  K3 s/n: ???
G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com
Ham-Directory: www.ham-directory.com
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Re: [Elecraft] Off Topic: Manhattan Style Construction

[Jack Smith]

Lee:

I have some information on my web page at www.cliftonlaboratories.com.  
Look for the link to prototyping, or go directly there at 
http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/Prototyping.htm.


I've recently shifted to a diamond core drill and cutting island pads as 
the normal Manhattan-style construction was getting a bit irksome due to 
pad lifting after soldering the same pad several times in the process of 
making changes.  My web page shows both the conventional Manhattan-style 
glued pads, as well as the diamond core drill approach. Also has some 
references.


Jack K8ZOA
www.cliftonlaboratories.com



Lee Buller wrote:

Sorry for the off topic question, but I am looking for information on tips and 
tricks to Manhattan Style Construction.  There was a great article published on 
the net several years ago, but it seems to have disappeared.  Anyone have 
information or where I can get information about this style of construction?

Lee Buller - K0WA



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Common Sense divine?
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Re: [Elecraft] Off Topic: Manhattan Style Construction

[d.cutter]

Not sure if this is what you are looking for, but, I've tried using wood drills 
(the ones with the point which only cut on the outside edge, good for thin 
sheet metal, too) to make copper lands on a plain board.  I think they are also 
known as torpedo drills.  I've seen kits made up of lots of little squares or 
circles of pcb material that you stick onto your main copper clad board.  
That's a little more messy, but works.  I prefer the drill method, it also 
starts a hole for your component wire.  

David
G3UNA

> 
> From: Lee Buller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/07/26 Thu PM 02:29:44 BST
> To: Elecraft Reflector 
> Subject: [Elecraft] Off Topic:  Manhattan Style Construction
> 
> 
> 
> Sorry for the off topic question, but I am looking for information on tips 
> and tricks to Manhattan Style Construction.  There was a great article 
> published on the net several years ago, but it seems to have disappeared.  
> Anyone have information or where I can get information about this style of 
> construction?
> 
> Lee Buller - K0WA
> 
> 
> 
> In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply.  If you 
> don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it.  If you can't 
> find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense.  
> Is Common Sense divine?
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[Elecraft] N2CQ QRP Contest Calendar: July 26 - Aug 26, 2007

[Ken Newman]

~
N2CQ QRP CONTEST CALENDAR
July 26 - Aug 26, 2007
~
Summer FOX Hunt - QRP 20M CW
UTC: Every Fri  thru Sept 7, 0100z to 0229z 
EDT: Every Thur thru Sept 6, 9 PM  to 1029 PM

Info: http://www.qrpfoxhunt.org/
~
Islands On The Air Contest (CW/SSB) ... QRP Category
Jul 28, 1200z to Jul 29, 1200z
Rules:  http://www.contesting.co.uk/hfcc/calendar07.shtml
~
Flight of the Bumblebees (CW) ... QRP Contest!
EDT: Jul 29, 1300  to 1700
UTC: Jul 29, 1700z to 2100z
Rules:  http://www.arsqrp.com/
~
Ten-Ten QSO Party (PH) ... QRP Category
Aug 4, 0001z to Aug 5, 2359z
Rules: http://www.ten-ten.org/calendar.html
~
TARA "Grid Dip" Contest  (PSK/RTTY) ... QRP Category
Aug 4, z to 2400z
Rules: http://www.n2ty.org/seasons/tara_seasons.html
~
EUROPEAN HF CHAMPIONSHIP (PH/CW) (EU work EU) Low Power Category
Aug 4, 1200z to 2359z
Rules: http://lea.hamradio.si/~scc/euhfcrules.htm
~
ARRL UHF Contest ... Low Power Category
Aug 4, 1800z to Aug 5, 1800z
Rules: http://www.arrl.org/contests/calendar.html?year=2007
~
North American QSO Party (CW) ... 100W Max.  (/QRP noted on entry)
Aug 4, 1800z to Aug 5, 0600z
Rules: http://www.ncjweb.com/naqprules.php
~
Adventure Radio Spartan Sprint (CW) *** QRP CONTEST! ***
Aug 7, 0100z to 0300z (First Monday 9 PM EDT)
Rules: http://www.arsqrp.com/
~
SKCC Sprint (Straight Key CW)  ... QRP Awards
UTC: Aug 8, z to 0200z
Rules: http://skccgroup.com/sprint/sprint-rules.htm
~
Worked All Europe DX Contest (CW) ... 100W category
Aug 11, z to Aug 12, 2359z
Rules: http://www.darc.de/referate/dx/xedcwr.htm
~
Maryland/DC QSO Party (SSB/CW) ... QRP Category
Aug 11, 1600z to Aug 12, 0400z
Aug 12, 1600z to Aug 12, 2359z
Rules: http://www.w3cwc.org
~
NAQCC Straight Key/Bug Sprint (CW) *** QRP Contest ***
EDT: Aug 14, 8:30 PM to 10:30 PM
UTC: Aug 15, 0030Z to 0230Z
Rules: http://www.arm-tek.net/~yoel/contests.html
~
SARTG WW RTTY Contest ... Low Power Category
Aug 18, z to 0800z
Aug 18, 1600z to 2400z
Aug 19, 0800z to 1600z
Rules: http://www.sartg.com/contest/wwrules.htm
~
QRP ARCI Silent Key Memorial Contest (CW) *** QRP CONTEST! ***
Aug 18, 1500z to 1800z
Rules: http://www.qrparci.org
~
North American QSO Party (SSB) ... 100W Max.  (/QRP noted on entry)
Aug 18, 1800z to Aug 19, 0600z
Rules: http://www.ncjweb.com/naqprules.php
~
NJ QSO Party (CW/SSB)  
Aug 18, 2000z to Aug 19, 0700z

Aug 19, 1300z to Aug 20, 0200z
Rules: http://www.qsl.net/w2rj/
~
RUN FOR THE BACON (CW) *** QRP CONTEST ***
EDT: Aug 19, 9 PM to 11 PM
UTC: Aug 20, 0100z 0300z
Rules: http://fpqrp.com
~
Hawaii QSO Party (CW/SSB/Digital) ... QRP Category   
Aug 25, 0700z to Aug 26, 2200z

Rules: http://www.karc.us/hi_qso_party.html
~
Ohio QSO Party (CW/SSB) ... QRP Category
Aug 25, 1600z to Aug 26, 0400z
Rules: http://www.oqp.us/
~
SLOVENIA CONTEST CLUB RTTY Championship .. 100W Category
Aug 25, 1200z to Aug 26, 1159z
Rules: http://lea.hamradio.si/~scc/rtty/htmlrules.htm
~
SKCC Weekend Sprint (Straight Key CW) ... QRP Category
Aug 26, z to z 
Rules: http://www.iglou.com/sonic//skcc/wknd-sprint-rules.html

~
Thanks to SM3CER, WA7BNM, N0AX(ARRL) and others 
for assistance in compiling this calendar.


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send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


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Anyone may use this "N2CQ QRP Contest Calendar" for your website,
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(Include a credit to the source of this material of course.)

72 de
Ken Newman - N2CQ 


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Re: [Elecraft] 21st century connectivity

[John D'Ausilio]

But satellite broadband is not a panacea .. I've been on all the
commercial services, and they work fine (mostly) for 'normal' users -
browsing, downloading stuff, etc. Forget about it if you do anything
involving upstream data, or encryption of any sort (including https).
Even downstream can suffer pretty horribly (depending on where you
live) at certain times of day when the load is near peak.

Thankfully I've moved back to civilization and have a cable connection
with 2 Mbit upstream and 10 down :)

de w1rt/john

On 7/26/07, Jozef Hand-Boniakowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Satellite broadband is available most everywhere in the USA.  Our
daughter lives in Glover VT which is about as rural and out of the way
as you can get.  She is content with the broadband that she has.  See:
http://www.4wildblue.com

Jozef WB2MIC

Kevin Rock wrote:
> Currently I have a 21.6 Kbps connection to the Internet.  Sometimes it gets 
as fast as 26.4 Kbps!  The nearest broadband connection is 20 miles away.  I have 
no hope they will ever bring cable, fiber, or WiMAX to anywhere close enough to 
effect my connection speed.  A one megabyte attachment chokes my email system for 
about fifteen minutes.  Larger files?  Hopefully I can maintain a connection 
overnight or it is no use even trying.  Luckily I do drive into Portland, Oregon 
where they do have faster connections so I take a hard drive along and all the 
URLs I've collected over the week so I can grab the files.  No, broadband 
connections are not available in all locations.  The U.S. has a long way to go to 
catch up with Japan, Korea, or Denmark.
>Kevin.  KD5ONS
>
> -Original Message-
>
>> From: Lyle Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Jul 25, 2007 7:42 PM
>> To: Ken Kopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: 21st century assembly "manual"
>>
>>
>>> The reality is that many of us are confined to dial-up and always will
>>> be.  (;-(
>>>
>> Say it isn't true!  Can't you get BPL, the answer to everything, in your
>> area?
>>
>> Lyle KK7P
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[Elecraft] Off Topic: Manhattan Style Construction

[Lee Buller]

Sorry for the off topic question, but I am looking for information on tips and 
tricks to Manhattan Style Construction.  There was a great article published on 
the net several years ago, but it seems to have disappeared.  Anyone have 
information or where I can get information about this style of construction?

Lee Buller - K0WA



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Re: [Elecraft] Update to Tutorial on RFI, Ferrite Chokes, Audio, and Choke Cookbook

[Jim Brown]

On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:08:36 -0700, Bob Nielsen wrote:

>Perhaps a URL would be helpful

Sorry -- brain cramp at the end of a long day. 

http://audiosystemsgroup.com/RFI-Ham.pdf

73,

Jim



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Re: [Elecraft] 21st century connectivity

[Jozef Hand-Boniakowski]

Satellite broadband is available most everywhere in the USA.  Our 
daughter lives in Glover VT which is about as rural and out of the way 
as you can get.  She is content with the broadband that she has.  See: 
http://www.4wildblue.com


Jozef WB2MIC

Kevin Rock wrote:

Currently I have a 21.6 Kbps connection to the Internet.  Sometimes it gets as 
fast as 26.4 Kbps!  The nearest broadband connection is 20 miles away.  I have 
no hope they will ever bring cable, fiber, or WiMAX to anywhere close enough to 
effect my connection speed.  A one megabyte attachment chokes my email system 
for about fifteen minutes.  Larger files?  Hopefully I can maintain a 
connection overnight or it is no use even trying.  Luckily I do drive into 
Portland, Oregon where they do have faster connections so I take a hard drive 
along and all the URLs I've collected over the week so I can grab the files.  
No, broadband connections are not available in all locations.  The U.S. has a 
long way to go to catch up with Japan, Korea, or Denmark.
   Kevin.  KD5ONS

-Original Message-
  

From: Lyle Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Jul 25, 2007 7:42 PM
To: Ken Kopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: 21st century assembly "manual"


The reality is that many of us are confined to dial-up and always will 
be.  (;-(
  
Say it isn't true!  Can't you get BPL, the answer to everything, in your 
area?


Lyle KK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] 21st century connectivity

[Matt Palmer]

I would take ruby over java but would like to mention one you missed,
tcl which is also very portable.

Matt
KD8DAO

On 7/26/07, Rob Lundahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Have you considered Java? Totally portable across systems.
Or even Ruby which is a 1 click install on windows and is free.
Ruby is also on Linux, Windows, and OS X plus BSD. Java has the
advantage that it is already installed on most systems. But Ruby is
easy to install and very productive to code in.

Both provide portability.

Rob
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[Elecraft] 21st century connectivity

[Rob Lundahl]

Have you considered Java? Totally portable across systems.
Or even Ruby which is a 1 click install on windows and is free.
Ruby is also on Linux, Windows, and OS X plus BSD. Java has the
advantage that it is already installed on most systems. But Ruby is
easy to install and very productive to code in.

Both provide portability.

Rob
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[Elecraft] Re: PSU for K3

[Petr Ourednik]

> Hi All
> 
> In preparation for delivery of K3 in the winter, are there any
> suggestions for a PSU (available from a supplier in the UK) capable
> capable of running the 100w version of the rig?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Paul
> 
> (P.S. - This is my first posting to the list. Great to be on board with
> such a well informed crew!)

Paul,

be carefull with PSU for K3 decission. For example in case of
recommended SEC 1223 Samles PSU check the link with mods to help the RFI
hash or birdies on HF produced by that switching PSU...

http://www.n0ss.net/samlex_1223_rfi_mods_from_zl2df.pdf 

Check on the internet as much as possible reviews from the ops. who are
using the PSU and which types specialy looking for negative comments on
eHam portal etc.

73,

Petr OK1RP

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Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Firmware upload

[dj7mgq]

> Do it in Python, make it really portable, and lower cost to maintain.

One nice thing about Python, those of us who might prefer a .Net based
application could then port it to the .Net world using Iron Python.


One other comment:

While I have mucho bandwidth at home, I do not have an antenna permit, which
means my K3 will mostly live in our local club station and/or contest QTH. There
is no internet connection at either location (also no telephone), which means I
will have to download the files at home, and the use Nike-Net to get them to the
radio. It is important that one can load the firmware to the K3 from local
memory as well as directly from the Elecraft server.


vy 73 de toby
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Re: [Elecraft] 21st century connectivity

[Julian G4ILO]

On 7/26/07, Kevin Rock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Currently I have a 21.6 Kbps connection to the Internet.  Sometimes it gets as 
fast as 26.4 Kbps!  ... The U.S. has a long way to go to catch up with Japan, 
Korea, or Denmark.


Hey, we're hams. What about radio? Perhaps the updates could be
distributed over the packet network?

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Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Firmware upload

[Julian G4ILO]

On 7/26/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Do it in Python, make it really portable, and lower cost to maintain.


I would have thought a command line program written in C was the most
portable option. There are C compilers for everything from 16-bit
MS-DOS up. The two things that are platform specific are GUI code and
serial port interfacing. There is no escaping the latter, but the
former is really unnecessary, plus it's pretty easy to make a GUI
shell that could run the command line utility if it was felt
necessary.

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