[Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key

2008-03-03 Thread Brett Howard
The finger tabs on this keyer are they held by rivets or screws?  On my
other Bencher the finger tabs are held by rivets and the dit paddle is
getting loose which is a bit annoying.  Anyone have any tips on this or
info on the hex?

Thanks much gentlemen.

~Brett (KC7OTG)
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Operating Tip: Setting up for PSK and other digital modes

2008-03-03 Thread Ian J Maude

Greg wrote:

Setting up your K3 for PSK (and other audio-based digital modes)

  
Many thanks Greg.  Like a lot of things, it looks so easy when you know 
how :)
One thing that threw me was that I assumed (yes I know, assume makes an 
ASS of U and ME!) that the mic gain was the same in ssb and data modes.  
I never thought to turn it up!  For those of you who have not seen this, 
in data mode, the mic gain (if data is set to line) is completely 
separate to the ssb mic gain, it now works as a line volume.  I am not 
sure this is clear enough in the manual.


73 Ian

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key

2008-03-03 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Screws I think, but very shallow socket heads.
73 de M0XDF / K3 #174, HexKey #375

On 03/03/2008 08:27, Brett Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:
 The finger tabs on this keyer are they held by rivets or screws?  On my
 other Bencher the finger tabs are held by rivets and the dit paddle is
 getting loose which is a bit annoying.  Anyone have any tips on this or
 info on the hex?
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death. -Leonardo da Vinci, painter, engineer, musician, and scientist
(1452-1519)


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Narrowing the filters on SSB

2008-03-03 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
don't you think that would get complicated and of course you'd have to do
the opposite for USB (wouldn't you?). The way it is now, the rig is not
second guessing what your trying to do and your not having to figure out
what its doing.

just my 2c worth


On 03/03/2008 05:40, Tony Fegan VE3QF [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

 Don,
 
 At present the filter centre frequency is unchanged as the filter
 Width is reduced. If the centre frequency on SSB could be reduced by
 half the change in bandwidth then the LO-Cut frequency would remain the
 same. This is the same as how the Hi-Cut works. If we now add another
 variable so that when the bandwidth goes below about 2.2KHz, we slightly
 reduce the reduction in centre frequency, then this could start to raise
 the Lo-Cut frequency up to about 500Hz by the time we reach a bandwidth
 of 1.0KHz.
 This would allow the Width control on SSB to be used just like on
 CW. Just one control right down to the narrowest bandwidth.
 I tried your suggestion of moving the VFO at the narrower bandwidths
 but did not find any improvement over raising the Lo-Cut frequency. I
 was careful to tune in to signals close to their correct frequency and
 not where they sounded best. I found that a signal in the clear could be
 copied down to very narrow bandwidths but with QRM it was easier to copy
 on a slightly wider bandwidth. Of course it all depends on which side
 the QRM is.
 Maybe this topic should be renamed to Digging in the dirt. I like
 looking for those very weak signals. At least my ears work fairly well,
 even if the associated processor is a bit suspect.
 
 73
 Tony Fegan VE3QF
 
 
 Don Wilhelm wrote:
 Tony,
 
 If you loose substantial intelligibility when moving the Hi-cut to
 narrow the SSB width, try moving the VFO just a bit.  With a properly
 tuned SSB signal and Lo-Cut set to 0.25, I can dial Hi-cut down to
 about 1.05 and still understand what is being said.  If the signal is
 slightly mistuned, then intelligibility suffers when Hi-Cut is reduced
 below 1.85.
 
 The problem with making a 'center tracking' SSB width control is that
 it would do the same thing as Hi-Cut does now - I don't know how that
 would solve anything.
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[Elecraft] K2- L34

2008-03-03 Thread Jack

The K2 just passed all the second powered up tests (woohoo)

One quick question though. I was not able to peak up L34 for max signal/min 
noise. The core hit the top of the can, I could have used another couple of 
turns. So maybe this is not peaked to optimum?


I peaked L1 and L2 and heard a load of signals on 40m (double woohoo) but 
signals were not as strong as my aging Kenwood using the same antenna. Maybe 
due to L34?


Anyone else have L34 issues?

cheers
Jack VK2CJC / MM0AXL
FISTS #9666 - CW QRP Club #753 - Elecraft K2 #6404
Mid North Coast Amateur Radio Group  www.mncarg.org

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Special Split Operation

2008-03-03 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
If Crossband Split mode is not an available feature, when working Split in 
the same band, and using your example, I would have thought that the band 
select control system could be used to tell the K3 that 225 means 7.225 MHz


Sorry I don't know if the K3 can operate in Crossband Split mode (you stay 
here on 14.xxx and I'll call you on 50.xxx), but if it can and to carry on 
with your example, if the existing system wants all of the numbers when 
frequencies are entered (7.085 and 7.225), you would have to tell the K3 to 
stay on the same band when entering just 225 after entering 7.085.  If 
Crossband Split is available then I would have thought that there would be 
some form of 'Same Band Split - Crossband Split' control, not necessarily a 
front panel control, which could be used just once to do that until changing 
bands or going into Crossband Split mode. If that is true then after 
entering 7.085 for the first time it might also be possible to leave out the 
7 when entering the frequency for either of the VFOs thereafter when using 
Same Band Split, until changing bands or going into Crossband Split mode.


.Anything to save time during a pileup is a very good idea IMHO :-)

73,
Geoff
GM4ESD


Brett Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Monday, March 03, 2008 at 
4:14 AM



Lets see if anyone has any opinions on this:

How about the possibility of a special single band split mode.  After
doing a bit of playing on this latest contest I saw possible value in a
mode where direct entry automatically assumes you're going to stay on
the same band.

So if you want to work split and the DX station says my_call listening
on 225 and you're on 7.085 and you're in this special mode.  Then you
could just switch to the other VFO and press enter 225 and then pop back
and be ready to rock and roll.  Not having to enter the 7 or the 00 at
the end could save you a bit of time.  There are times where its
something like 7.225.5 and for that one could possibly setup the RIT/XIT
knob to be able to pull that off in one detent.

Not sure what button I'd implement this on but something in the area of
freq ent seems reasonable.  Would be nice if you could skip the freq ent
button in this mode too as that would make times even faster but would
make operation of the rest of the rig a bit of an annoyance.

Sorry if my operation is a bit vague but I don't have a K3 so I'm having
to go just off of what I've read in the manual and of the operation of
my TS-450Sat.

Thanks much for your insights gentlemen.

~Brett (KC7OTG)


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Special Split Operation

2008-03-03 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Perhaps we should wait for the KRX3 to be available and then use it a
little, before asking for Split mods?


On 03/03/2008 11:01, Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sent:

 If Crossband Split mode is not an available feature, when working Split in
 the same band, and using your example, I would have thought that the band
 select control system could be used to tell the K3 that 225 means 7.225 MHz
 
 Sorry I don't know if the K3 can operate in Crossband Split mode (you stay
 here on 14.xxx and I'll call you on 50.xxx), but if it can and to carry on
 with your example, if the existing system wants all of the numbers when
 frequencies are entered (7.085 and 7.225), you would have to tell the K3 to
 stay on the same band when entering just 225 after entering 7.085.  If
 Crossband Split is available then I would have thought that there would be
 some form of 'Same Band Split - Crossband Split' control, not necessarily a
 front panel control, which could be used just once to do that until changing
 bands or going into Crossband Split mode. If that is true then after
 entering 7.085 for the first time it might also be possible to leave out the
 7 when entering the frequency for either of the VFOs thereafter when using
 Same Band Split, until changing bands or going into Crossband Split mode.
 
 .Anything to save time during a pileup is a very good idea IMHO :-)
 
 73,
 Geoff
 GM4ESD
 
 
 Brett Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Monday, March 03, 2008 at
 4:14 AM
 
 Lets see if anyone has any opinions on this:
 
 How about the possibility of a special single band split mode.  After
 doing a bit of playing on this latest contest I saw possible value in a
 mode where direct entry automatically assumes you're going to stay on
 the same band.
 
 So if you want to work split and the DX station says my_call listening
 on 225 and you're on 7.085 and you're in this special mode.  Then you
 could just switch to the other VFO and press enter 225 and then pop back
 and be ready to rock and roll.  Not having to enter the 7 or the 00 at
 the end could save you a bit of time.  There are times where its
 something like 7.225.5 and for that one could possibly setup the RIT/XIT
 knob to be able to pull that off in one detent.
 
 Not sure what button I'd implement this on but something in the area of
 freq ent seems reasonable.  Would be nice if you could skip the freq ent
 button in this mode too as that would make times even faster but would
 make operation of the rest of the rig a bit of an annoyance.
 
 Sorry if my operation is a bit vague but I don't have a K3 so I'm having
 to go just off of what I've read in the manual and of the operation of
 my TS-450Sat.
 
 Thanks much for your insights gentlemen.
 
 ~Brett (KC7OTG)
 
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[Elecraft] Re: Portable Antennae

2008-03-03 Thread jjbbl2

Ken wrote:

...I would like to construct a good portable antennae to use while camping

Mike responded:

...I have played around with multi-band HF antennas for camping and backpacking
for more than 30 years.  I've tried resonant dipoles with and without traps,
untuned dipoles fed with balanced line, simple and complex verticals, fed-fed
wires, etc.

I have never found anything that works as well as the least-expensive of the
above...the resonant dipole.  I have never found anything that works as poorly
as verticals.
..

Ken, I would agree with Mike! I built this very antenna in a short time after 
Mike sent me a simple diagram/link. I built the antenna probably four or five 
years ago and still use it. I used it immediately after Hurricane Katrina with 
my K1 and solar panel set up for nearly two weeks after the storm. 
I just use a light weight painters pole and bugie cord it to a suitable, but 
stationary anchor. As Mike said, it's easily adjustable and it works great 
given it's simpicity.

Thanks Mike for sending those plans several years ago! And Ken, I'd try it. 
You'll be surprised!

73,
John-KD5EJA
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 filter presets I/II: present and futurefunctionality

2008-03-03 Thread Ed K1EP

At 3/1/2008 10:51 AM, Geoffrey Downs wrote:

Les, WB6MND wrote:



I would like to be able to return to fixed settings that I program and are
stored.  That way I always have a familiar starting point that works best in
most situations, but that I can adjust further to customize for the
particular signal I'm listening to.

With the current setup, I feel I get lost and can't return to a familiar
place.


Me too. And thanks for asking, Wayne.

73 to all

Geoff
G3UCK



I agree with this opinion, I would like a programmable fixed 
setting.  Having transitioned from another brand of radio that had 
three filter presets, I thought I would miss them in the K3.  I liked 
the idea of cycling through three different filters to find which one 
suited the conditions at the time.  But as I used the K3 more and 
more, I found that I wasn't switching from I to II at all.  I learned 
that I could dynamically manipulate the filter with the width control 
(or hi/lo cut) to my liking.  But I would get lost occasionally and 
having a preset home is a good idea.  You can use the NORM setting, 
but that is factory preset.  Having the user adjust the NORM setting 
would be a good idea.   Switching quickly back and forth between two 
filters is also a desired function, but the delay in the push and 
hold activation of I and II seems too long to make that function 
useful in a quickly changing environment.




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Special Split Operation

2008-03-03 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy

David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote on Monday, March 03, 2008 11:28 AM


Perhaps we should wait for the KRX3 to be available and then use it a
little, before asking for Split mods?


A second receiver built into the system is certainly the better option, 
especially when using Crossband Split, no relay noise for example.


My piggy bank cannot support a K3 and the development of a new receiver, 
just offering some thoughts as a spectator.


73,
Geoff
GM4ESD 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Special Split Operation

2008-03-03 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Sorry not sure I understood that, the KRX3 is the second sub-receiver and a
lot of us are waiting for it to be released, most paid for it with the
deposit for the K3. It already developed and just undergoing some changes
because Wayne wasn't happy with it.


On 03/03/2008 12:21, Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sent:

  David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote on Monday, March 03, 2008 11:28 AM
 
 Perhaps we should wait for the KRX3 to be available and then use it a
 little, before asking for Split mods?
 
 A second receiver built into the system is certainly the better option,
 especially when using Crossband Split, no relay noise for example.
 
 My piggy bank cannot support a K3 and the development of a new receiver,
 just offering some thoughts as a spectator.
 
 73,
 Geoff
 GM4ESD 
 

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Re: [Elecraft] K2- L34

2008-03-03 Thread Don Wilhelm

Jack,

The peak on L34 is difficult to discern because it is quite broad.  For 
now, I suggest setting the slug 1 turn in from the top of the can.


After you have your K2 completed and the KSB2 board (if any) installed, 
I suggest you do a full dial calibration and filter setup using 
Spectrogram as I describe on my website http://w3fpr.qrpradio.com.
When you have Spectrogram still displaying the K2 audio, you can turn on 
the preamp, remove the antenna and tune to the 7000 kHz birdie and 
adjust L34 - with Spectrogram you will be able to see the peak, often 
the difference between the peak and off the peak is only a couple dB and 
that difference is difficult to discern with your ears.


73,
Don W3FPR

Jack wrote:

The K2 just passed all the second powered up tests (woohoo)

One quick question though. I was not able to peak up L34 for max 
signal/min noise. The core hit the top of the can, I could have used 
another couple of turns. So maybe this is not peaked to optimum?


I peaked L1 and L2 and heard a load of signals on 40m (double woohoo) 
but signals were not as strong as my aging Kenwood using the same 
antenna. Maybe due to L34?


Anyone else have L34 issues?

cheers
Jack VK2CJC / MM0AXL
FISTS #9666 - CW QRP Club #753 - Elecraft K2 #6404
Mid North Coast Amateur Radio Group  www.mncarg.org

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[Elecraft] bad audio

2008-03-03 Thread William Marshall Denny II

Hello all,
 I bought a K2 serial number 5334 some time ago and I have been 
enjoying the capabilities of the receiver since I got it in the shack. 


   Transmit audio on SSB is another matter.

   I have tried changing mics and readjusting the BFO for OP1  etc. 

 I continue to get audio reports that I have muffled or distorted 
audio.  In general, the reports are that I am barely understandable in 
good condition and I can not use the k2 to transmit in poor conditions. 

I am using a kenwood mc-43s mic currently and have tried the mh2 mic.  I 
get better reports with the kenwood mic. 

I have tried to monitor my own audio with another receiver but  I am not 
sure even when using a dummy load that I am not getting distortion from 
overload on the second receiver.
But, considering at a .1 watt power level in to a dummy load is not over 
loading. I hear badly distorted audio that seams to me to have elements 
of clipping at the peaks of words.  And also even when i whistle a 
single tone I hear multiple tones in the second receiver. In addition, I 
would have to characterize my audio a generally unpleasing.


I have also tried all mic and processor level in the menu., both SSBa 
and SSbC


I have tried every thing I know. 


I would like to get some input on what to try next.




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Respectfully,


William Marshall Denny II

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Special Split Operation

2008-03-03 Thread Greg - AB7R
I would not recommend trying crossband split until the sub receiver is finished 
and the firmware 
modified to allow it.  Brett's proposal is stricly a shortcut for in-band 
split.  When the firmware is 
done for the sub receiver you sill be able to control the frequency and other 
functions of VFO B by a 
number of ways, including the BSET function, VFO B knob and A/B.


-
73,
Greg - AB7R
Whidbey Island WA
NA-065
K3#0009 and 0319

On Mon Mar  3  3:01 , Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy  sent:

If Crossband Split mode is not an available feature, when working Split in 
the same band, and using your example, I would have thought that the band 
select control system could be used to tell the K3 that 225 means 7.225 MHz

Sorry I don't know if the K3 can operate in Crossband Split mode (you stay 
here on 14.xxx and I'll call you on 50.xxx), but if it can and to carry on 
with your example, if the existing system wants all of the numbers when 
frequencies are entered (7.085 and 7.225), you would have to tell the K3 to 
stay on the same band when entering just 225 after entering 7.085.  If 
Crossband Split is available then I would have thought that there would be 
some form of 'Same Band Split - Crossband Split' control, not necessarily a 
front panel control, which could be used just once to do that until changing 
bands or going into Crossband Split mode. If that is true then after 
entering 7.085 for the first time it might also be possible to leave out the 
7 when entering the frequency for either of the VFOs thereafter when using 
Same Band Split, until changing bands or going into Crossband Split mode.

.Anything to save time during a pileup is a very good idea IMHO :-)

73,
Geoff
GM4ESD


Brett Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Monday, March 03, 2008 at 
4:14 AM

 Lets see if anyone has any opinions on this:

 How about the possibility of a special single band split mode.  After
 doing a bit of playing on this latest contest I saw possible value in a
 mode where direct entry automatically assumes you're going to stay on
 the same band.

 So if you want to work split and the DX station says  listening
 on 225 and you're on 7.085 and you're in this special mode.  Then you
 could just switch to the other VFO and press enter 225 and then pop back
 and be ready to rock and roll.  Not having to enter the 7 or the 00 at
 the end could save you a bit of time.  There are times where its
 something like 7.225.5 and for that one could possibly setup the RIT/XIT
 knob to be able to pull that off in one detent.

 Not sure what button I'd implement this on but something in the area of
 freq ent seems reasonable.  Would be nice if you could skip the freq ent
 button in this mode too as that would make times even faster but would
 make operation of the rest of the rig a bit of an annoyance.

 Sorry if my operation is a bit vague but I don't have a K3 so I'm having
 to go just off of what I've read in the manual and of the operation of
 my TS-450Sat.

 Thanks much for your insights gentlemen.

 ~Brett (KC7OTG)

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[Elecraft] K3 dumb screw question, zinc vs black

2008-03-03 Thread Carl Clawson
I notice a lot of black screws called out for internal construction of the
K3. I always thought the black screws were just for looks. So why are they
used inside? Strength? Corrosion resistance? Just because?
 
73, Carl WS7L
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Re: [Elecraft] Re: Portable Antennae

2008-03-03 Thread T. David Yarnes

Hi All,

I would question the assertion that a resonant dipole is the 
absolute best choice.  First of all, I think the original 
query included the condition that the antenna needed to fit 
within the footprint of the campsite.  Now, we don't know 
how big that footprint is, but I can certainly envision that 
such a footprint wouldn't be that big, particularly in a 
crowded campground.  Putting up a resonant dipole there 
could easily be a problem.


I would concede that a resonant dipole alleviates lots of 
issues.  But conditions at hand don't always make it the 
best choice.  A dipole that can only be elevated a short 
distance is going to be pretty NVIS as a general rule. 
Perhaps that's sufficient, but generally it isn't.  If you 
can get it up in the air a fair amount, all the better. 
Furthermore, if you use balanced feeders and a tuner, you 
have the makings for a nice little multiband system.  But 
again, you may not be radiating in all directions very 
effectively, so maybe that's a problem too.  But clearly a 
dipole that you can elevate somewhat is a good choice.


I find vertical systems to be quite beneficial in many 
situations.  True, there may not be super efficient, but 
sometimes that is really your only option.  Verticals don't 
have to be elevated either, although if you can elevate one 
you might be better off.  And it doesn't have to be elevated 
nearly as much as a dipole--just enough to start chipping 
away at the ground loss issue.  I think the rule of thumb 
is to elevate it at least 1/10 wavelength to start getting 
some real benefit.


Vertical antennas tend to have lower take-off 
angles--particularly compared to a dipole at a relatively 
low height.  So, you might work stations closer to you 
better with the dipole, but stations farther away may hear 
you better on the vertical.  For certain you need some 
radials, but they don't necessarily have to be all that 
long.  As we have been told by those more knowledgeable, 
more shorter radials are often better than just a few longer 
ones.


Vertical systems like the MP-1 and PAC-12 are darn good 
little systems.  Admittedly, they could be better, but you 
can also make them better.  You can add more length below 
and above the coil for starters.  Also, you can spread more 
radials than are supplied.  But even as supplied, these 
systems do work, and work fairly well.  I've used both 
systems enough times to attest to that.  Furthermore, I can 
use these systems in lots of situations where a dipole just 
isn't possible.  It's not that I prefer using 
verticals--actually when I can I put up a multiband dipole 
system--but it all depends on circumstances as to which type 
of antenna works better.


I would conclude my comments by posing a hypothetical 
situation to you.  I'm not sure I know the answer, but I 
think I do.  Let's assume you want to work some DX on 40 
meters from your campsite.  You are in a situation where you 
could put up a dipole at 30 feet, maybe even 35 feet. 
Alternatively, you could use a limb, or something like that, 
to elevate an MP-1 (enhanced maybe with an extra rod or two 
under the coil, and maybe one or two more on top as well) 
about 20 feet with 4 tuned radials sloping downward.  Which 
antenna has the smaller footprint with regard to your 
campsite?  Which one is apt to perform better at working DX? 
Is one substantially harder than the other to put up?


Anybody want to play the game?  Sorry, no prizes for the 
correct answers since I can't say for certain what they 
are!


Dave W7AQK


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Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 4:49 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] Re: Portable Antennae



Ken wrote:

...I would like to construct a good portable antennae to 
use while camping


Mike responded:

...I have played around with multi-band HF antennas for 
camping and backpacking
for more than 30 years.  I've tried resonant dipoles with 
and without traps,
untuned dipoles fed with balanced line, simple and complex 
verticals, fed-fed

wires, etc.

I have never found anything that works as well as the 
least-expensive of the
above...the resonant dipole.  I have never found anything 
that works as poorly

as verticals.
..

Ken, I would agree with Mike! I built this very antenna in a 
short time after Mike sent me a simple diagram/link. I built 
the antenna probably four or five years ago and still use 
it. I used it immediately after Hurricane Katrina with my K1 
and solar panel set up for nearly two weeks after the storm.
I just use a light weight painters pole and bugie cord it to 
a suitable, but stationary anchor. As Mike said, it's easily 
adjustable and it works great given it's simpicity.


Thanks Mike for sending those plans several years ago! And 
Ken, I'd try it. You'll be surprised!


73,
John-KD5EJA
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RE: [Elecraft] bad audio

2008-03-03 Thread Darwin, Keith
 

-Original Message-
  I bought a K2 serial number 5334 some time ago ... Transmit audio on
SSB ...  badly distorted audio that seams to me to have elements of
clipping at the peaks of words.  And also even when i whistle a single
tone I hear multiple tones in the second receiver. In addition, I would
have to characterize my audio a generally unpleasing.
--

I have K2 SN 5411 with the SSB board  Kenwood mic and it gives me good
clean audio on TX.  I tested and adjusted mine while monitoring on a 2nd
RX and transmitting into a dummy load.  Overload was no problem as the
bleed from the dummy antenna was strong, but not that strong.  I
actually recorded the audio from the 2nd RX so I could listen to my TX
audio without my own voice rattling around inside my brain.  After a few
tweaks I had the rig dialed in.

I then put the mic away and went back to CW which is where all the fun
is :-)

Sound like your rig is not right.

Does it sound OK on CW?

- Keith N1AS -
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- K3 Wave 3 -
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key

2008-03-03 Thread Tom Childers, N5GE
On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 00:27:16 -0800, you wrote:

The finger tabs on this keyer are they held by rivets or screws?  On my
other Bencher the finger tabs are held by rivets and the dit paddle is
getting loose which is a bit annoying.  Anyone have any tips on this or
info on the hex?

Thanks much gentlemen.

~Brett (KC7OTG)

I have two Bencher paddles.  One is thirty years old and has screws.  The other
is about 20 years old and has rivets.  Neither of them have loose paddles and
the one with screws has never been tightened.

I'll bet if you contact Bencher and tell them about the loose paddle they'll fix
it for you.  I wouldn't be the least bit reluctant to get one with rivets.

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RE: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report for March

2008-03-03 Thread KM5Q

Kevin,





It's FINE to be elitist -- just include ALL the elite  =^)

Your message gave me the idea to log S/Ns from EC rigs worked on the  
SSB net. Some people will do ANYTHING for another certificate, and  
we'll do ANYTHING to get more check-ins.


Windy
KM5Q

... We still need SD and DE for an Elecraft to Elecraft Worked All  
States.  It really doesn't count for WAS unless it is pure :)  Not  
being an elitist, I am simply making it a bit more difficult ;)

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 dumb screw question, zinc vs black

2008-03-03 Thread David Pratt

In a recent message, Carl Clawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ...

I notice a lot of black screws called out for internal construction of the
K3. I always thought the black screws were just for looks. So why are they
used inside? Strength? Corrosion resistance? Just because?


The black screws contain the Mojo for which Elecraft products are 
renowned.


73
--
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Leeds, England, UK
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[Elecraft] Mini project - cw key switch

2008-03-03 Thread Mike Markowski
I've been meaning for awhile to build a key-to-rig switch.  Finally, I got 
around to it and it makes changing keys so convenient that I wish made it 
sooner.  It's cheap and easy - under $20 and about 2 hours of work - and then 
you can switch your favorite cw keys between rigs.  I have a k1 and k2, and my 
son has a ten-tec.  With this project we have an easy way to use any key on any 
rig with the click of a switch.  I would imagine that many people over the years 
have built similar things, but to save others from reinventing the wheel I wrote 
up what I did at:


   http://udel.edu/~mm/ham/keySwitch/

Since we're a heavily cw oriented group, maybe others will find this super 
simple project useful.  I'll try to add a photo tonight.


73,
Mike  ab3ap
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[Elecraft] K3: Filter choice 2.7 or 2.8 kHz - effect on transmit audio

2008-03-03 Thread Windy Dankoff KM5Q

Has anyone made a direct comparison to determine if a 2.8 filter produces
noticeably better transmit audio? (like fuller, more natural sound).

Windy KM5Q
K3 ? due late March
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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Special Split Operation

2008-03-03 Thread Brett Howard
What about the people who don't buy the second RX?  And even still its only
an idea to save time and would save time in the presence or absence of the
second RX.  Wouldn't you agree?

-Original Message-
From: David Ferrington, M0XDF [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 3:28 AM
To: Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy; Brett Howard
Cc: Crafters
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Special Split Operation

Perhaps we should wait for the KRX3 to be available and then use it a
little, before asking for Split mods?


On 03/03/2008 11:01, Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sent:

 If Crossband Split mode is not an available feature, when working Split in
 the same band, and using your example, I would have thought that the band
 select control system could be used to tell the K3 that 225 means 7.225
MHz
 
 Sorry I don't know if the K3 can operate in Crossband Split mode (you stay
 here on 14.xxx and I'll call you on 50.xxx), but if it can and to carry on
 with your example, if the existing system wants all of the numbers when
 frequencies are entered (7.085 and 7.225), you would have to tell the K3
to
 stay on the same band when entering just 225 after entering 7.085.  If
 Crossband Split is available then I would have thought that there would be
 some form of 'Same Band Split - Crossband Split' control, not necessarily
a
 front panel control, which could be used just once to do that until
changing
 bands or going into Crossband Split mode. If that is true then after
 entering 7.085 for the first time it might also be possible to leave out
the
 7 when entering the frequency for either of the VFOs thereafter when using
 Same Band Split, until changing bands or going into Crossband Split mode.
 
 .Anything to save time during a pileup is a very good idea IMHO :-)
 
 73,
 Geoff
 GM4ESD
 
 
 Brett Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Monday, March 03, 2008 at
 4:14 AM
 
 Lets see if anyone has any opinions on this:
 
 How about the possibility of a special single band split mode.  After
 doing a bit of playing on this latest contest I saw possible value in a
 mode where direct entry automatically assumes you're going to stay on
 the same band.
 
 So if you want to work split and the DX station says my_call listening
 on 225 and you're on 7.085 and you're in this special mode.  Then you
 could just switch to the other VFO and press enter 225 and then pop back
 and be ready to rock and roll.  Not having to enter the 7 or the 00 at
 the end could save you a bit of time.  There are times where its
 something like 7.225.5 and for that one could possibly setup the RIT/XIT
 knob to be able to pull that off in one detent.
 
 Not sure what button I'd implement this on but something in the area of
 freq ent seems reasonable.  Would be nice if you could skip the freq ent
 button in this mode too as that would make times even faster but would
 make operation of the rest of the rig a bit of an annoyance.
 
 Sorry if my operation is a bit vague but I don't have a K3 so I'm having
 to go just off of what I've read in the manual and of the operation of
 my TS-450Sat.
 
 Thanks much for your insights gentlemen.
 
 ~Brett (KC7OTG)
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Special Split Operation

2008-03-03 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
I was thinking that we don't know what changes in F/W may arrive when the
KRX3 becomes available.


On 03/03/2008 17:38, Brett Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

 What about the people who don't buy the second RX?  And even still its only
 an idea to save time and would save time in the presence or absence of the
 second RX.  Wouldn't you agree?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David Ferrington, M0XDF [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 3:28 AM
 To: Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy; Brett Howard
 Cc: Crafters
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Special Split Operation
 
 Perhaps we should wait for the KRX3 to be available and then use it a
 little, before asking for Split mods?
 
 
 On 03/03/2008 11:01, Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 sent:
 
 If Crossband Split mode is not an available feature, when working Split in
 the same band, and using your example, I would have thought that the band
 select control system could be used to tell the K3 that 225 means 7.225
 MHz
 
 Sorry I don't know if the K3 can operate in Crossband Split mode (you stay
 here on 14.xxx and I'll call you on 50.xxx), but if it can and to carry on
 with your example, if the existing system wants all of the numbers when
 frequencies are entered (7.085 and 7.225), you would have to tell the K3
 to
 stay on the same band when entering just 225 after entering 7.085.  If
 Crossband Split is available then I would have thought that there would be
 some form of 'Same Band Split - Crossband Split' control, not necessarily
 a
 front panel control, which could be used just once to do that until
 changing
 bands or going into Crossband Split mode. If that is true then after
 entering 7.085 for the first time it might also be possible to leave out
 the
 7 when entering the frequency for either of the VFOs thereafter when using
 Same Band Split, until changing bands or going into Crossband Split mode.
 
 .Anything to save time during a pileup is a very good idea IMHO :-)
 
 73,
 Geoff
 GM4ESD
 
 
 Brett Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Monday, March 03, 2008 at
 4:14 AM
 
 Lets see if anyone has any opinions on this:
 
 How about the possibility of a special single band split mode.  After
 doing a bit of playing on this latest contest I saw possible value in a
 mode where direct entry automatically assumes you're going to stay on
 the same band.
 
 So if you want to work split and the DX station says my_call listening
 on 225 and you're on 7.085 and you're in this special mode.  Then you
 could just switch to the other VFO and press enter 225 and then pop back
 and be ready to rock and roll.  Not having to enter the 7 or the 00 at
 the end could save you a bit of time.  There are times where its
 something like 7.225.5 and for that one could possibly setup the RIT/XIT
 knob to be able to pull that off in one detent.
 
 Not sure what button I'd implement this on but something in the area of
 freq ent seems reasonable.  Would be nice if you could skip the freq ent
 button in this mode too as that would make times even faster but would
 make operation of the rest of the rig a bit of an annoyance.
 
 Sorry if my operation is a bit vague but I don't have a K3 so I'm having
 to go just off of what I've read in the manual and of the operation of
 my TS-450Sat.
 
 Thanks much for your insights gentlemen.
 
 ~Brett (KC7OTG)
 
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[Elecraft] K3 Remote Control...

2008-03-03 Thread STEPHEN W BANKS
Hi everyone,

Can any of you tell me what, if any, possibilities exist for remote control of 
the K3?  Seems like there's been some discussion about it, but I subscribe to 
the Digest reflector mode and frequently delete a digest forgetting to copy and 
save a particular post of interest.

Just wondering how/if anything is planned for the K3 that will be similar to 
the OMNI VII One Plug facility.

Thanks in advance.

73,

Steve Banks
K0PQ
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Remote Control...

2008-03-03 Thread Simon Brown (HB9DRV)
At the moment remote control is via the RS232 (COM port) connector, you will 
eventually be able to control all aspects of the radio. For audio there are 
various solutions available already.


An Ethernet connector / solution has not been suggested so far.

Simon Brown, HB9DRV

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From: STEPHEN W BANKS [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Can any of you tell me what, if any, possibilities exist for remote 
control of the K3?  Seems like there's been some discussion about it, but 
I subscribe to the Digest reflector mode and frequently delete a digest 
forgetting to copy and save a particular post of interest.





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[Elecraft] Why no power from SSB

2008-03-03 Thread n0jrn

OK folks:

After further checking,   I find that I have good power from SSB on 80, 40  
30 meters.


( I've taken the tuner out of the rig and have it hooked to a 50 ohm load 
with a watt meter in line )


What's got me pulling my hair is the rig is fine on CW on all bands.

I don't understand why it works on CW and not on SSB on the higher bands. 
I would obviously blame the SSB board and some mistake I might have made but 
there's nothing on the SSB board that is band specific

Is there ???

Still digging :-)

72 Jerry  N0JRN 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Filter choice 2.7 or 2.8 kHz - effect on transmit audio

2008-03-03 Thread Barry N1EU

I expect any such comparison to be premature.  The main limitation on
fuller audio is not being able to vary the transmit passband and I believe
that feature will be added in a future firmware enhancement.

The main advantage of the 2.8 filter is probably better immunity to
interference by very strong signals that are just outside of the passband
due to its steeper slopes than the 2.7Khz filter.

73,
Barry N1EU


Windy Dankoff KM5Q wrote:
 
 Has anyone made a direct comparison to determine if a 2.8 filter produces
 noticeably better transmit audio? (like fuller, more natural sound).
 
 Windy KM5Q
 K3 ? due late March
 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Remote Control...

2008-03-03 Thread Greg - AB7R
I believe Tree, N6TR, is already remoting the K3 using Ham Radio Delux.  I 
think you can 
also use TRX Manager.

-
73,
Greg - AB7R
Whidbey Island WA
NA-065
K3#0009 and 0319

On Mon Mar  3  9:52 , STEPHEN W BANKS  sent:

Hi everyone,

Can any of you tell me what, if any, possibilities exist for remote control of 
the K3?  
Seems like there's been some discussion about it, but I subscribe to the Digest 
reflector 
mode and frequently delete a digest forgetting to copy and save a particular 
post of 
interest.

Just wondering how/if anything is planned for the K3 that will be similar to 
the OMNI VII 
One Plug facility.

Thanks in advance.

73,

Steve Banks
K0PQ
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[Elecraft] Re: Portable Antennae

2008-03-03 Thread Chris
hi over the years ive done a good bit of portable work. and  the best antennae 
i have used
is a vertical . i use a dk9sq 33ft mast with 33ft copper wire taped to the mast 
( 1/4 wave on 40m)
 an atu and ground wires or on a nice day the wire conected to my k2. useing 
the atu in the k2 to
work other bands ive worked all over the world so me im happy with vertical 
ants dont take much
room and quick to put up wish you goodluck with what you use and most of all 
good fun
chris g0wfh
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[Elecraft] Price increases - I feel unappreciated!

2008-03-03 Thread Darwin, Keith
While doing a quick scan of the K3 order page I noticed the 100 watt PA
has gone up in price again.  This time, it pissed me off.  I have a K3
on order but have not ordered the 100 watt PA.  I don't *quite* have the
money for it but I am on the fence, wondering if I should stretch a bit
and get it anyway.
 
Then in Dec 07 or so, the price went up.  Darn, I should have ordered in
Nov.  Well, with a Dec price increase, prices should be pretty constant
for quite a while, so I guess I can wait, right?
 
WRONG.  Price went up sometime in the last week.  It's another $50 to
play radio at full barefoot levels.  If I had known, I'd probably have
added the PA to my order.  As someone sitting on the fence, a quick post
to the list saying a price increase is coming would be enough to push
me over the edge and get me to place an order.
 
Instead what I got was *Surprise - higher prices - you lose.  Well, at
least I can say that Elecraft is consistent in this.  I've never seen
them give current customers any sort of heads-up about impending price
increases.
 
All of which leaves me feeling consistently underappreciated!
 
- Keith N1AS -
- K2 5411.ssb.100 -
- K3 Wave 3 -
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Re: [Elecraft] Re: Portable Antennae

2008-03-03 Thread Sandy

This is the thing I use the most.  I use the MFJ 33' Fiberglass mast.  Small
hookup wire for antenna elements.  33' vertical and at least 2, preferably 4
radials laid on ground 90 degrees apart.  White insulated mil-spec type
wire used (24-26 guage) with tracer stripes.  White wire wasy to see and
helps prevent people tripping over the strands.  Also have tried an 85' L
antenna (33' vertical, 52' horizontal).  It is harder to support easily and
no good in parking lot or away from trees for support of the far end.

The vertical is very quick to setup and takedown.  Doesn't require and
weights or slinghots to get the far end supported over a tree limb.

73,

Sandy W5TVW
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Subject: [Elecraft] Re: Portable Antennae


hi over the years ive done a good bit of portable work. and  the best
antennae i have used
is a vertical . i use a dk9sq 33ft mast with 33ft copper wire taped to the
mast ( 1/4 wave on 40m)
an atu and ground wires or on a nice day the wire conected to my k2. useing
the atu in the k2 to
work other bands ive worked all over the world so me im happy with vertical
ants dont take much
room and quick to put up wish you goodluck with what you use and most of all
good fun
chris g0wfh
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Special Split Operation

2008-03-03 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
sorry, I wasn't suggesting we don't ask, but I'd like to get the current
outstanding items before I give him much more to think about :)


On 03/03/2008 19:15, Brett Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

 Well if we don't think of ideas or even ask then its on Wayne to figure out
 what is wanted or needed for every feature all on his own.  Now granted this
 has worked VERY well for us Elecrafters in the past but I'm sure if you ask
 him he'd much rather have input on ideas.
 
 Just my opinion.. But maybe I'm all wet.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David Ferrington, M0XDF [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 9:42 AM
 To: Brett Howard; 'Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy'
 Cc: Crafters
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Special Split Operation
 
 I was thinking that we don't know what changes in F/W may arrive when the
 KRX3 becomes available.
 
 
 On 03/03/2008 17:38, Brett Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:
 
 What about the people who don't buy the second RX?  And even still its
 only
 an idea to save time and would save time in the presence or absence of the
 second RX.  Wouldn't you agree?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David Ferrington, M0XDF [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 3:28 AM
 To: Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy; Brett Howard
 Cc: Crafters
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Special Split Operation
 
 Perhaps we should wait for the KRX3 to be available and then use it a
 little, before asking for Split mods?
 
 
 On 03/03/2008 11:01, Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 sent:
 
 If Crossband Split mode is not an available feature, when working Split
 in
 the same band, and using your example, I would have thought that the band
 select control system could be used to tell the K3 that 225 means 7.225
 MHz
 
 Sorry I don't know if the K3 can operate in Crossband Split mode (you
 stay
 here on 14.xxx and I'll call you on 50.xxx), but if it can and to carry
 on
 with your example, if the existing system wants all of the numbers when
 frequencies are entered (7.085 and 7.225), you would have to tell the K3
 to
 stay on the same band when entering just 225 after entering 7.085.  If
 Crossband Split is available then I would have thought that there would
 be
 some form of 'Same Band Split - Crossband Split' control, not necessarily
 a
 front panel control, which could be used just once to do that until
 changing
 bands or going into Crossband Split mode. If that is true then after
 entering 7.085 for the first time it might also be possible to leave out
 the
 7 when entering the frequency for either of the VFOs thereafter when
 using
 Same Band Split, until changing bands or going into Crossband Split mode.
 
 .Anything to save time during a pileup is a very good idea IMHO :-)
 
 73,
 Geoff
 GM4ESD
 
 
 Brett Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Monday, March 03, 2008 at
 4:14 AM
 
 Lets see if anyone has any opinions on this:
 
 How about the possibility of a special single band split mode.  After
 doing a bit of playing on this latest contest I saw possible value in a
 mode where direct entry automatically assumes you're going to stay on
 the same band.
 
 So if you want to work split and the DX station says my_call listening
 on 225 and you're on 7.085 and you're in this special mode.  Then you
 could just switch to the other VFO and press enter 225 and then pop back
 and be ready to rock and roll.  Not having to enter the 7 or the 00 at
 the end could save you a bit of time.  There are times where its
 something like 7.225.5 and for that one could possibly setup the RIT/XIT
 knob to be able to pull that off in one detent.
 
 Not sure what button I'd implement this on but something in the area of
 freq ent seems reasonable.  Would be nice if you could skip the freq ent
 button in this mode too as that would make times even faster but would
 make operation of the rest of the rig a bit of an annoyance.
 
 Sorry if my operation is a bit vague but I don't have a K3 so I'm having
 to go just off of what I've read in the manual and of the operation of
 my TS-450Sat.
 
 Thanks much for your insights gentlemen.
 
 ~Brett (KC7OTG)
 
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Re: [Elecraft] bad audio

2008-03-03 Thread Don Wilhelm

Marshall,

Are you operating the MC-43 in the 500 ohm position - there is a 50K/500 
switch shown in the MC-43 schematic and it should be in the 500 ohm 
position.
How are you handling the mic bias when switching from the MH2 (electret 
element which needs the bias resistor) and the MC-43 (dynamic element 
which should NOT have the bias resistor installed.
Since you did not build this K2, you may not have the relevant 
information about the bias resistor.  The MH2 needs a 5.6k resistor 
soldered between pins 1 and 6 on the back of the K2 mic jack, or some 
other clever means (put the resistor in the MH2 mic plug body) to 
provide bias for the electret element.


I assume you have successfully aligned your filters with Spectrogram.   
How does the OP1 filter passband look in Spectrogram.  It should have a 
rather flat appearance within the passband.  If it looks ragged with a 
LOT of passband ripple, that is an indication of a faulty crystal in the 
KSB2 filter.  You MUST have SSB FL1 set to the OP1 (or OP2 thru OP5 - 
they are all the same) filter or TX SSB will sound horrible.


Let me know if I can help further.  I may not be available by phone, but 
email does work.


73,
Don W3FPR 


William Marshall Denny II wrote:

Hello all,
 I bought a K2 serial number 5334 some time ago and I have been 
enjoying the capabilities of the receiver since I got it in the shack.

   Transmit audio on SSB is another matter.

   I have tried changing mics and readjusting the BFO for OP1  etc.
 I continue to get audio reports that I have muffled or distorted 
audio.  In general, the reports are that I am barely understandable in 
good condition and I can not use the k2 to transmit in poor conditions.
I am using a kenwood mc-43s mic currently and have tried the mh2 mic.  
I get better reports with the kenwood mic.
I have tried to monitor my own audio with another receiver but  I am 
not sure even when using a dummy load that I am not getting distortion 
from overload on the second receiver.
But, considering at a .1 watt power level in to a dummy load is not 
over loading. I hear badly distorted audio that seams to me to have 
elements of clipping at the peaks of words.  And also even when i 
whistle a single tone I hear multiple tones in the second receiver. In 
addition, I would have to characterize my audio a generally unpleasing.


I have also tried all mic and processor level in the menu., both SSBa 
and SSbC


I have tried every thing I know.
I would like to get some input on what to try next.





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RE: [Elecraft] ref price increase

2008-03-03 Thread Darwin, Keith
I have no issues with prices going up.  What frosts my cake is the lack
of a courtesy announcement to the faithful to give us a heads up so we
can make a more informed decision.

- Keith N1AS -
- K2 5411.ssb.100 -
- K3 Wave 3 -

-Original Message-
last friday i printed out a order form for a new k2 but by saterday the
price had gone up $30 i just said oh well its worth it elecraft have to
make a living who would we turn to if there was no elecraft for good
radio eqpt keep up the good work boys and grils chris g0wfh
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[Elecraft] ref price increase

2008-03-03 Thread Chris
last friday i printed out a order form for a new k2
but by saterday the price had gone up $30 i 
just said oh well its worth it elecraft have to
make a living who would we turn to if there was
no elecraft for good radio eqpt keep up the good
work boys and grils chris g0wfh
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Re: [Elecraft] Price increases - I feel unappreciated!

2008-03-03 Thread AD6XY - Mike

It is hardly surprising considering the US Dollar is so weak at the moment
and most of the parts are not made in the USA. Had Elecraft passed on the
complete fall in the Dollar, I suspect it would be a lot more. 




Darwin, Keith wrote:
 
 While doing a quick scan of the K3 order page I noticed the 100 watt PA
 has gone up in price again.  This time, it pissed me off.  I have a K3
 on order but have not ordered the 100 watt PA.  I don't *quite* have the
 money for it but I am on the fence, wondering if I should stretch a bit
 and get it anyway.
  
 Then in Dec 07 or so, the price went up.  Darn, I should have ordered in
 Nov.  Well, with a Dec price increase, prices should be pretty constant
 for quite a while, so I guess I can wait, right?
  
 WRONG.  Price went up sometime in the last week.  It's another $50 to
 play radio at full barefoot levels.  If I had known, I'd probably have
 added the PA to my order.  As someone sitting on the fence, a quick post
 to the list saying a price increase is coming would be enough to push
 me over the edge and get me to place an order.
  
 Instead what I got was *Surprise - higher prices - you lose.  Well, at
 least I can say that Elecraft is consistent in this.  I've never seen
 them give current customers any sort of heads-up about impending price
 increases.
  
 All of which leaves me feeling consistently underappreciated!
  
 - Keith N1AS -
 - K2 5411.ssb.100 -
 - K3 Wave 3 -
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Re: [Elecraft] K2- L34

2008-03-03 Thread Jack
The peak on L34 is difficult to discern because it is quite broad.  For 
now, I suggest setting the slug 1 turn in from the top of the can.


1 turn from the top would be off peak. It needs to be right on the top 
(and possibly further). I am assuming that something else in the circuit is 
not the correct value. But all components are in the right place.


Jack VK2CJC / MM0AXL
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Re: [Elecraft] Portable Antennae

2008-03-03 Thread Don Wilhelm

Larry,

The system I use for a portable antenna can be adapted to most any 
circumstances I find myself in.  It can be a horizontal dipole, and 
inverted vee or a vertical.  They all work, some better than others, but 
hey, it allows one to get on the air in difficult places.  It is not 
always that one can find the ideal set of conditions, so I make the best 
of what I can.


The heart of my system is a 32 ft telescoping fiberglass medium duty 
mast I obtained from www.tmastco.com.  Along with that, I have a 44 ft. 
dipole center fed with 25 feet of parallel line.
I also carry a 25 ft length of additional parallel line, and 2-22 ft 
pieces of antenna wire.  I also have a roll of mason line to use for 
tying things off.  The additional feedline length and 22 ft. antenna 
wire extensions are fitted with alligator clips so it can be added when 
desirable.


When I set up, I look at the space available - if I have another high 
end support in addition to my pole, the antenna goes up as a horizontal 
dipole, but if space is more limited, I just secure the pole with a 
bungy cord to a sstationary object and tie the top of the pole to the 
center insulator,  then put it up as an inverted vee.  If space is even 
more limited, I tie one end of the antenna wire to the top of the pole 
and use it as a vertical with one radial laid out on the ground wherever 
I can - if room allows, I will clip on the extra wire at the ground side 
of the feedpoint to add more radials.  The extra 22 ft pieces of wire 
can also be added to the ends of the antenna to make an 88 ft. dipole or 
inverted vee for more efficient radiation on 40 meters and allowing 
operation on 80.  The mason line can also be used for light guy wires if 
that is desirable.  Tent pins serve nicely for anchor points when no 
others are available.


So there you have my system - it can be a 44 ft. dipole or inverted vee 
(extendable to 88 ft.) or it can be a vertical (with feedpoint about 8 
feet above the ground) with one or more radials.  Used with a tuner, it 
makes a versatile antenna.  A few insulators made out of plastic or PVC, 
a bit of wire, some 300 ohm or 450 ohm ladder line and a handful of 
alligator clips can make you a similar antenna.  No, I do not have plans 
for it on my website - maybe one day it will get there.


73,
Don W3FPR



Larry K1UO wrote:


While I await my K3 (sometime in June) I would like to construct a good
portable antennae to use while camping (RV camping). If it is a dipole it
will need to be short enough to fit in the footprint of a campsite. Any
recommendations.maybe even for a vertical?

 


73  God Bless!

Ken/NO4D

Ken,

   Take a look at either the End Fedz or Buddi Pole portable antennas. 
Possibly one of those may suit your needs.  Good luck


Larry K1UO
  

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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Special Split Operation

2008-03-03 Thread Brett Howard
Well if we don't think of ideas or even ask then its on Wayne to figure out
what is wanted or needed for every feature all on his own.  Now granted this
has worked VERY well for us Elecrafters in the past but I'm sure if you ask
him he'd much rather have input on ideas.  

Just my opinion.. But maybe I'm all wet.

-Original Message-
From: David Ferrington, M0XDF [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 9:42 AM
To: Brett Howard; 'Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy'
Cc: Crafters
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Special Split Operation

I was thinking that we don't know what changes in F/W may arrive when the
KRX3 becomes available.


On 03/03/2008 17:38, Brett Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

 What about the people who don't buy the second RX?  And even still its
only
 an idea to save time and would save time in the presence or absence of the
 second RX.  Wouldn't you agree?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David Ferrington, M0XDF [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 3:28 AM
 To: Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy; Brett Howard
 Cc: Crafters
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Special Split Operation
 
 Perhaps we should wait for the KRX3 to be available and then use it a
 little, before asking for Split mods?
 
 
 On 03/03/2008 11:01, Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 sent:
 
 If Crossband Split mode is not an available feature, when working Split
in
 the same band, and using your example, I would have thought that the band
 select control system could be used to tell the K3 that 225 means 7.225
 MHz
 
 Sorry I don't know if the K3 can operate in Crossband Split mode (you
stay
 here on 14.xxx and I'll call you on 50.xxx), but if it can and to carry
on
 with your example, if the existing system wants all of the numbers when
 frequencies are entered (7.085 and 7.225), you would have to tell the K3
 to
 stay on the same band when entering just 225 after entering 7.085.  If
 Crossband Split is available then I would have thought that there would
be
 some form of 'Same Band Split - Crossband Split' control, not necessarily
 a
 front panel control, which could be used just once to do that until
 changing
 bands or going into Crossband Split mode. If that is true then after
 entering 7.085 for the first time it might also be possible to leave out
 the
 7 when entering the frequency for either of the VFOs thereafter when
using
 Same Band Split, until changing bands or going into Crossband Split mode.
 
 .Anything to save time during a pileup is a very good idea IMHO :-)
 
 73,
 Geoff
 GM4ESD
 
 
 Brett Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Monday, March 03, 2008 at
 4:14 AM
 
 Lets see if anyone has any opinions on this:
 
 How about the possibility of a special single band split mode.  After
 doing a bit of playing on this latest contest I saw possible value in a
 mode where direct entry automatically assumes you're going to stay on
 the same band.
 
 So if you want to work split and the DX station says my_call listening
 on 225 and you're on 7.085 and you're in this special mode.  Then you
 could just switch to the other VFO and press enter 225 and then pop back
 and be ready to rock and roll.  Not having to enter the 7 or the 00 at
 the end could save you a bit of time.  There are times where its
 something like 7.225.5 and for that one could possibly setup the RIT/XIT
 knob to be able to pull that off in one detent.
 
 Not sure what button I'd implement this on but something in the area of
 freq ent seems reasonable.  Would be nice if you could skip the freq ent
 button in this mode too as that would make times even faster but would
 make operation of the rest of the rig a bit of an annoyance.
 
 Sorry if my operation is a bit vague but I don't have a K3 so I'm having
 to go just off of what I've read in the manual and of the operation of
 my TS-450Sat.
 
 Thanks much for your insights gentlemen.
 
 ~Brett (KC7OTG)
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Why no power from SSB

2008-03-03 Thread Greg - AB7R
Jerry,

Which radio are you referring to?  I think the K2 since you mention SSB board.  
Correct?

-
73,
Greg - AB7R
Whidbey Island WA
NA-065
K3#0009 and 0319

On Mon Mar  3 10:19 , n0jrn  sent:

OK folks:

After further checking,   I find that I have good power from SSB on 80, 40  
30 meters.

( I've taken the tuner out of the rig and have it hooked to a 50 ohm load 
with a watt meter in line )

What's got me pulling my hair is the rig is fine on CW on all bands.

I don't understand why it works on CW and not on SSB on the higher bands. 
I would obviously blame the SSB board and some mistake I might have made but 
there's nothing on the SSB board that is band specific
Is there ???

Still digging :-)

72 Jerry  N0JRN 

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Re: [Elecraft] Price increases - I feel unappreciated!

2008-03-03 Thread Tom Childers, N5GE
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 12:02:37 -0700, you wrote:

While doing a quick scan of the K3 order page I noticed the 100 watt PA
has gone up in price again.  This time, it pissed me off.  I have a K3
on order but have not ordered the 100 watt PA.  I don't *quite* have the
money for it but I am on the fence, wondering if I should stretch a bit
and get it anyway.

[snip] 

Then in Dec 07 or so, the price went up.  Darn, I should have ordered in
Nov.  Well, with a Dec price increase, prices should be pretty constant
for quite a while, so I guess I can wait, right?
 
WRONG.  Price went up sometime in the last week.  It's another $50 to
play radio at full barefoot levels.  
 
Instead what I got was *Surprise - higher prices - you lose.  Well, at
least I can say that Elecraft is consistent in this.  I've never seen
them give current customers any sort of heads-up about impending price
increases.
 
All of which leaves me feeling consistently underappreciated!
[snip]

What you describe is a real bummer and nobody wants that to happen to them, but
it does.  We have no control over prices, and shouldn't.  The manufacturers of
products control that.

Many companies use pending price increases as a marketing scheme to push
potential buyers into buying.  I'm glad Elecraft does not play that game with
us.  I'm also glad they don't start out with an unreasonable price and offer us
coupons to encourage us to buy.

I for one would rather make my own decisions, based on what I can or cannot
afford, which is what it appears you have done.  Congratulations!  We should all
be better at that.

Elecraft (or any other business) has no contract or obligation to notify
consumers of their decision to raise the price of their products.  What would be
wrong, would be for them to raise the price of anything you had already ordered.

As far as feeling unappreciated;  I wouldn't feel unappreciated unless I knew
they had raised the price only for me and others were not paying the increased
price.

 
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[Elecraft] Price increases - I feel loved....

2008-03-03 Thread Bruce Beford
I got my Katiegram today from Aptos. A K3 kit with many options, ordered
7/27/07 to be shipped within 7-10 days.

I took note of the price increases back in January, and those posted today.
By ordering when I did, I saved a total of $200 plus. I am pleased with my
decisions.

I am not unhappy about the increases. If I had held off on ordering, I would
have been upset with myself, not the vendor. Elecraft and other American
companies have been taking a real hit lately with the weak dollar. A lot of
their business comes from overseas, and they get less for their fine
products when the dollar drops vs other currencies. I have no problem with
them increasing prices to offset these losses.

Bruce N1RX
K1, KX1, K2, K3 (soon)

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[Elecraft] Price Increases...and advertisements

2008-03-03 Thread info4mjs
 
Looks like Elecraft will have to change their advertisements to reflect the new 
pricing on the K3 and K2.

Elecraft’s state-of-the-art K3 transceiver offers a unique combination of 
ultra-high performance and affordability.  

Both 100-watt and 10-watt (upgradeable) models are available. Starting at under 
$2,000 for the 100-W assembled model (K3/100), the rig is comparable in both 
features and performance to transceivers listing at up to six times its price.

Mike, WA1SEO
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Re: [Elecraft] Price Increases...and advertisements

2008-03-03 Thread Bill NY9H

At 02:37 PM 3/3/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ..for the 100-W assembled model (K3/100), the rig is 
comparable in both features and performance to transceivers listing 
at up to six times its price.


WITH THE WEAK DOLLAR, I'll bet ICOM would love to catch up by 
increasing the the 7800  10%..-15%. still not keeping up with the 
dollar drop 


10.600 X 1.15 =  12190..   ok maybe still not 6 times the price

guess that makes MY K3 worth more...

bill 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Remote Control...

2008-03-03 Thread Jerry Flanders
You might want to go to elecraft.com, click on email list and then 
search the reflector archives. Probably find exactly what you need that way.


Jerry W4UK

At 12:52 PM 3/3/2008, STEPHEN W BANKS wrote:

Hi everyone,

Can any of you tell me what, if any, possibilities exist for remote 
control of the K3?  Seems like there's been some discussion about 
it, but I subscribe to the Digest reflector mode and frequently 
delete a digest forgetting to copy and save a particular post of interest.


Just wondering how/if anything is planned for the K3 that will be 
similar to the OMNI VII One Plug facility.


Thanks in advance.

73,

Steve Banks
K0PQ


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[Elecraft] K3: Invoice Confirmation Received

2008-03-03 Thread AE4CW

I received an e-mail this afternoon from Katie confirming the invoice and
shipment in 7-10 days of my order placed on July 27, 2007.  Good news and
another data point on the backlog management curve.

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[Elecraft] Software Update Directions

2008-03-03 Thread Lee Buller


Is there a place for directions of updating the K3?  I can't seem to find them

Lee - K0WA
Today of all daysI'm flummoxed



In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply.  If you don't 
have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it.  If you can't find 
any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense.  Is 
Common Sense divine?
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Re: [Elecraft] Software Update Directions

2008-03-03 Thread Lyle Johnson

Is there a place for directions of updating the K3?  I can't seem to find them


Open K3 Utility and then click on help

73,

Lyle KK7P

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RE: [Elecraft] Price increases - I feel unappreciated!

2008-03-03 Thread Darwin, Keith
 Many companies use pending price increases as a marketing scheme to
 push potential buyers into buying.  I'm glad Elecraft does not play
 that game with us.

Giving notice that prices are going up is a marketing scheme ONLY if
prices DON'T go up.  If they do, then what the vendor is giving the
customers is a very valuable service because, as you say ...
I for one would rather make my own decisions, based on what I can or
cannot afford.  To make decisions, one needs information.


 Elecraft (or any other business) has no contract or obligation to
notify
 consumers of their decision to raise the price of their products.

Absolutely right.  They are under no obligation.  Unfortunately, they've
also missed an opportunity to Delight the Customer.

And to those who say it isn't possible to give price increase notices, I
can give you a link to another specialty-hobby-item vendor who does
EXACTLY that.  When new items (from Europe, BTW) are coming in and the
prices are higher, this vendor (another small Elecraft-type
organization) will put a notice on their forum to tell folks that once
current stock is gone, prices are going up.

Yes, it CAN be done.

So I'm down to 3 choices.

1.  Continue to sit-tight and wait until my wallet fills enough to
afford the ever-increasing 100 watt PA.

2.  Order the PA now and be insulated against any further increases.

3.  Cut my losses completely and just cancel my K3 order figuring the
overall package has just climbed out of reach.


*Sigh* damage control is such fun.  Enough of this.  I have some
thinking to do.

- Keith N1AS -
- K2 5411.ssb.100 -
- K3 Wave 3 -

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[Elecraft] Anyone using WSJT with a K2?

2008-03-03 Thread w2bvh
Has anyone on the list used WSJT FSK441 mode with a K2? If so I'd like 
to hear about your experience.


I've tried it with a XV-50 that I recently built and so far have just 
limited success. I have decoded about 2-3 transmissions (plus another 
2-4 partials) over 3 Saturday morning random hour WSJT meteor scatter 
sessions on 6 meters, but so far no successful qsos.  I operated with 
the K2 set for agc off, usb, and filter OPT1.


My K2 is sn 1520 and was updated to the the most recent firmware at the 
same time as the XV50 build in order to accommodate the XV50 and the 
KIO2 which also had to be added to the K2 for 6 meter operation.


According to the wsjt manual FSK441 uses 882, 1323 1764 and 2205 Hz 
tones in its encoding. My K2's OPT1 filter has the 2205 Hz tone on the 
IF filters shoulder. By eye its about 3-4 db below the passband. (In a 
previous version of this email I attached a jpg of the spectrogram plot, 
but evidently emails with attachments are not permitted here. I can send 
you a copy directly if it would help).


Is it possible there is too much attenuation or phase distortion of the 
2205 Hz signaling element for easy WSJT operation?  I have the OPT1 
filter adjusted for the best sounding ssb voice signal (according to my 
xyl's careful listening). If it's necessary to move the filter up 
150-200 Hz for WSJT, it will  affect how my voice comes across in ssb.


What are my best options for good both ssb and wsjt operation with the 
K2? Are compromises required here or is there a way to get both good SSB 
and good WSJT?


Thanks in advance.

73,
Lenny W2BVH

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[Elecraft] Custom Acrylic Display Covers available for the K3!

2008-03-03 Thread Ken Kaplan

Fellow hams.
I am now set up to engrave the Acrylic Display Covers for the K3.
You can see my own at: www.arkayengravers.com/elecraft/
Just click on 'K3 pictures' on the left menu.
Judging by responses, I will order sufficient plates from Elecraft.
Please email me off list:  ken (AT) arkayengravers.com  if you have any 
questions.

Tnx for the bandwidth.
73
Ken WB2ART

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Re: [Elecraft] Anyone using WSJT with a K2?

2008-03-03 Thread AD6XY - Mike

I tried on our 70 MHz band with my XV-70.  The same goes for JT65 as used by
our beacons where I found the tuning very critical. 

I thought nothing of this but maybe you have a point.

Some weeks later on, I tried decoding JT65 on 23cm via an Icom IC910 and it
worked fine. It may be the K2 filter but more likely it was just conditions. 

Although the tones are as specified, the tones in practice will depend on
your calibration and Doppler shifts. The WSJT program should be able to
decode the signals if they are off frequency. If you know your filter is off
above 2 kHz, it might pay to tune a few 100Hz higher up the band. That way
signals with positive Doppler are more likely to fall in the pass band.

I am not sure the filter phase response is all that important here because
the mode is not phase coherent. 

Filter ripple may be a problem on transmit, especially is if is as severe as
3-4 dB. It looks like you are receiving and this might be the cause of less
QSOs. Try and alter the TX audio tone frequency but this time down a bit so
it falls into the SSB pass band. You should not need to alter the filter -
simply change WSJT tones instead.

Mike



w2bvh wrote:
 
 Has anyone on the list used WSJT FSK441 mode with a K2? If so I'd like 
 to hear about your experience.
 
 I've tried it with a XV-50 that I recently built and so far have just 
 limited success. I have decoded about 2-3 transmissions (plus another 
 2-4 partials) over 3 Saturday morning random hour WSJT meteor scatter 
 sessions on 6 meters, but so far no successful qsos.  I operated with 
 the K2 set for agc off, usb, and filter OPT1.
 
 My K2 is sn 1520 and was updated to the the most recent firmware at the 
 same time as the XV50 build in order to accommodate the XV50 and the 
 KIO2 which also had to be added to the K2 for 6 meter operation.
 
 According to the wsjt manual FSK441 uses 882, 1323 1764 and 2205 Hz 
 tones in its encoding. My K2's OPT1 filter has the 2205 Hz tone on the 
 IF filters shoulder. By eye its about 3-4 db below the passband. (In a 
 previous version of this email I attached a jpg of the spectrogram plot, 
 but evidently emails with attachments are not permitted here. I can send 
 you a copy directly if it would help).
 
 Is it possible there is too much attenuation or phase distortion of the 
 2205 Hz signaling element for easy WSJT operation?  I have the OPT1 
 filter adjusted for the best sounding ssb voice signal (according to my 
 xyl's careful listening). If it's necessary to move the filter up 
 150-200 Hz for WSJT, it will  affect how my voice comes across in ssb.
 
 What are my best options for good both ssb and wsjt operation with the 
 K2? Are compromises required here or is there a way to get both good SSB 
 and good WSJT?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 73,
 Lenny W2BVH
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Price increases - I feel unappreciated!

2008-03-03 Thread Dave Martin
Yeah, Keith.  Several of us are in your boat.  I was going to build up
the 10 watt radio first and then order the KPA3.  When I placed the
order they were projecting a mid December delivery.  If that had
happened I still could have had plenty of time to order the KPA3
before any price increase.

So I too must figure out what to do.  It'll probably be to never have
but a 10 watt radio.  That's a lot of money for ten watts, no matter
how good the rest of it is.  It would be nice it they'd give those of
us with a radio on order the opportunity to upgrade our order at the
prices that were in effect at the time.  But even so, what's a better
choice than Elecraft?

Dave  W5DHM


  So I'm down to 3 choices.

  1.  Continue to sit-tight and wait until my wallet fills enough to
  afford the ever-increasing 100 watt PA.

  2.  Order the PA now and be insulated against any further increases.

  3.  Cut my losses completely and just cancel my K3 order figuring the
  overall package has just climbed out of reach.


  *Sigh* damage control is such fun.  Enough of this.  I have some
  thinking to do.

  - Keith N1AS -
  - K2 5411.ssb.100 -
  - K3 Wave 3 -
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[Elecraft] K3

2008-03-03 Thread Jim Cundiff

Hey Guys,
   I  just got off the phone with Madeline @ Elecraft. I  changed my 
order to a kit like several of you had advised. The big news for me  
(sorry if you already know this) is that the FM filter was released 
today! The only outstanding things are the sub receiver and the DVR. Now 
the wait continues. Still projected at 4 months. 73


In His service,
Jim Cundiff KB3GFC
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Re: [Elecraft] Software Update Directions

2008-03-03 Thread Bill W4ZV



Lyle Johnson-6 wrote:
 
 Is there a place for directions of updating the K3?  I can't seem to find
 them
 
 Open K3 Utility and then click on help
 

The K3 Update Utility is here:

http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm

73,  Bill

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Re: [Elecraft] Portable Antennae

2008-03-03 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
I basically have the same, but never thought of using it as anything but an
inverted V - thanks Don


On 03/03/2008 19:55, Don Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

 Larry,
 
 The system I use for a portable antenna can be adapted to most any
 circumstances I find myself in.  It can be a horizontal dipole, and
 inverted vee or a vertical.  They all work, some better than others, but
 hey, it allows one to get on the air in difficult places.  It is not
 always that one can find the ideal set of conditions, so I make the best
 of what I can.
 
 The heart of my system is a 32 ft telescoping fiberglass medium duty
 mast I obtained from www.tmastco.com.  Along with that, I have a 44 ft.
 dipole center fed with 25 feet of parallel line.
 I also carry a 25 ft length of additional parallel line, and 2-22 ft
 pieces of antenna wire.  I also have a roll of mason line to use for
 tying things off.  The additional feedline length and 22 ft. antenna
 wire extensions are fitted with alligator clips so it can be added when
 desirable.
 
 When I set up, I look at the space available - if I have another high
 end support in addition to my pole, the antenna goes up as a horizontal
 dipole, but if space is more limited, I just secure the pole with a
 bungy cord to a sstationary object and tie the top of the pole to the
 center insulator,  then put it up as an inverted vee.  If space is even
 more limited, I tie one end of the antenna wire to the top of the pole
 and use it as a vertical with one radial laid out on the ground wherever
 I can - if room allows, I will clip on the extra wire at the ground side
 of the feedpoint to add more radials.  The extra 22 ft pieces of wire
 can also be added to the ends of the antenna to make an 88 ft. dipole or
 inverted vee for more efficient radiation on 40 meters and allowing
 operation on 80.  The mason line can also be used for light guy wires if
 that is desirable.  Tent pins serve nicely for anchor points when no
 others are available.
 
 So there you have my system - it can be a 44 ft. dipole or inverted vee
 (extendable to 88 ft.) or it can be a vertical (with feedpoint about 8
 feet above the ground) with one or more radials.  Used with a tuner, it
 makes a versatile antenna.  A few insulators made out of plastic or PVC,
 a bit of wire, some 300 ohm or 450 ohm ladder line and a handful of
 alligator clips can make you a similar antenna.  No, I do not have plans
 for it on my website - maybe one day it will get there.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 
 
 Larry K1UO wrote:
 
 While I await my K3 (sometime in June) I would like to construct a good
 portable antennae to use while camping (RV camping). If it is a dipole it
 will need to be short enough to fit in the footprint of a campsite. Any
 recommendations.maybe even for a vertical?
 
  
 
 73  God Bless!
 
 Ken/NO4D
 
 Ken,
 
Take a look at either the End Fedz or Buddi Pole portable antennas.
 Possibly one of those may suit your needs.  Good luck
 
 Larry K1UO
   
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Re: [Elecraft] Anyone using WSJT with a K2?

2008-03-03 Thread Don Wilhelm

Lenny,

You have the 2.1 kHz filter width installed, and when the BFOs are 
properly adjusted, the high frequency corner of the passband will be 
close to 2300 Hz.


Order the SSBCAPKT from Elecraft and change the SSB filter width to 2.4 
kHz, or even 2.6 kHz.
While you are at it (if you have not already done so), changing the 
filter crystals on both the KSB2 board and the K2 RF board will give you 
a much better filter - the crystals used in K2 below SN 2560 were not 
controlled for motional inductance,  and the new crystals are much better.


73,
Don W3FPR

w2bvh wrote:
Has anyone on the list used WSJT FSK441 mode with a K2? If so I'd like 
to hear about your experience.


I've tried it with a XV-50 that I recently built and so far have just 
limited success. I have decoded about 2-3 transmissions (plus another 
2-4 partials) over 3 Saturday morning random hour WSJT meteor 
scatter sessions on 6 meters, but so far no successful qsos.  I 
operated with the K2 set for agc off, usb, and filter OPT1.


My K2 is sn 1520 and was updated to the the most recent firmware at 
the same time as the XV50 build in order to accommodate the XV50 and 
the KIO2 which also had to be added to the K2 for 6 meter operation.


According to the wsjt manual FSK441 uses 882, 1323 1764 and 2205 Hz 
tones in its encoding. My K2's OPT1 filter has the 2205 Hz tone on the 
IF filters shoulder. By eye its about 3-4 db below the passband. (In a 
previous version of this email I attached a jpg of the spectrogram 
plot, but evidently emails with attachments are not permitted here. I 
can send you a copy directly if it would help).


Is it possible there is too much attenuation or phase distortion of 
the 2205 Hz signaling element for easy WSJT operation?  I have the 
OPT1 filter adjusted for the best sounding ssb voice signal (according 
to my xyl's careful listening). If it's necessary to move the filter 
up 150-200 Hz for WSJT, it will  affect how my voice comes across in ssb.


What are my best options for good both ssb and wsjt operation with the 
K2? Are compromises required here or is there a way to get both good 
SSB and good WSJT?


Thanks in advance.

73,
Lenny W2BVH

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Re: [Elecraft] Price increases - I feel loved....

2008-03-03 Thread Randy Downs
I ordered a K3 about 2 weeks ago. Total for the 100w kit with tuner and 
second rx was $2669.00. I paid that much about a year ago for a new 
transceiver from an unnamed manufacturer with dual rx. Enough said. I'm sure 
I won't be disappointed with the K3 purchase. I am very disappointed with 
the other purchase. I don't mind spending money if I get a quality product 
with support. The other company was on the users group for the radio I 
purchased a year ago. That lasted about 3 months. 3 firmware updates and 
still many problems IMHO. Hurry up Wayne so I can sell the other rig. I'll 
lose an easy $600 when I sell it.

Randy
K8RDD
- Original Message - 
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Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 3:01 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] Price increases - I feel loved


I got my Katiegram today from Aptos. A K3 kit with many options, ordered
7/27/07 to be shipped within 7-10 days.

I took note of the price increases back in January, and those posted today.
By ordering when I did, I saved a total of $200 plus. I am pleased with my
decisions.

I am not unhappy about the increases. If I had held off on ordering, I would
have been upset with myself, not the vendor. Elecraft and other American
companies have been taking a real hit lately with the weak dollar. A lot of
their business comes from overseas, and they get less for their fine
products when the dollar drops vs other currencies. I have no problem with
them increasing prices to offset these losses.

Bruce N1RX
K1, KX1, K2, K3 (soon)

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[Elecraft] Portable Antenna

2008-03-03 Thread Grif
Some experience here with the PAR EndFedZ EF-10/20/40 may be of interest to the 
group. As you all may know it is a self-resonant half-wave QRP antenna - 
25watts continuous - for 40, 20 and 10 meters. It requires no counterpoise 
and has a sealed matching network at the feed point end. I'm using it in a 
second floor bedroom with the matchbox at the top of a window, 25' from ground. 
The other end is tied to a tree, 20' from the ground. The matchbox is connected 
to the transceiver with a 4' run of coax. Now the interesting part. I've 
connected a 39' counterpoise to the transceiver. It snakes around the 
baseboard and into a closet. I can now operate on all bands, 80 through 10. 
Except for 80 and 30, the SWR is under 4.0. On 30 I bypass the matchbox and 
connect the transceiver antenna center conductor directly to the output of the 
matchbox with a 4' wire, and the SWR is less than 3.0. On 80 I short the input 
to the matchbox with the same direct wire, and the SWR is in the range of 4 to 
6. My Icom IC-703 (10 watts max.) internal tuner matches all of the above 
easily, as does my KX-1 on 40, 30 and 20. (I haven't built the 80-30 board 
yet.) At some point I may get a second EndFedZ for portable use. At present I 
use an MP-1, Buddistick tuned (length adjusted to a quarter wave) 
counterpoise,  and the KX-1 for casual operation on vacation. For serious 
portable work I use a Buddipole or Buddistick with a Yaesu FT-857. All great 
antennas.

Grif, KF4JG
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[Elecraft] Re: K3: Avdoiding SPLIT cancellation after in-band FREQ ENTER

2008-03-03 Thread DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL
Wayne:

Are you kidding me?  This is another RTFM issue?  Oh boy...color me embarrassed.

Doug KR2Q

On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 3:15 PM, wayne burdick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Doug,

  The SPLIT condition will be preserved across a FREQ ENT within the same
  band if you have CONFIG:SPLT SV (split save) set to YES. (This also
  preserves the status of SPLIT/RIT/XIT on every band, independently.)

  73,
  Wayne
  N6KR


   From: DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL
   Subject: [Elecraft] K3: split freq: time study. CORRECTION
  
Apparently, when you do a direct keypad entry, it ERASES the SPLIT
function.


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RE: [Elecraft] Re: Portable Antennae

2008-03-03 Thread Bill Harris

Sandy  Chris
If you happen to have another 33 ft. mast; a real performer is a pair of 1/2 
wave verticals,(20 thru 10m) spaced anywhere between 1/4 to 5/8ths WL, end fed 
in phase, or not. Can fire broadside or off the ends. Use four of these in a 
box pattern you can have a unidirectional beam. Center feeding would enable you 
to tune 17-15-12  10m, where, on 10, you would have colinear verticals Simple 
to hook up. No radials. More gain than a Bobtail and a lower T/O angle. Great 
DX antenna.
 IT SURE WORKS!

Carry-on
BillHarris w7kxb
PS..I haven't tried the center fed arrangement, as yet, but it sure looks good 
on paper.
PPS...Maybe someone should establish an Elecraft Field Operation Reflector 
(YahooGroups?) and lighten the load on this reflector.

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Re: Portable Antennae
 Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 13:14:38 -0600
 CC: 
 
 This is the thing I use the most.  I use the MFJ 33' Fiberglass mast.  Small 
 hookup wire for antenna elements.  33' vertical and at least 2, preferably 4 
 radials laid on ground 90 degrees apart.  White insulated mil-spec type 
 wire used (24-26 guage) with tracer stripes.  White wire wasy to see and 
 helps prevent people tripping over the strands.  

 The vertical is very quick to setup and takedown.  Doesn't require and
 weights or slinghots to get the far end supported over a tree limb.
 
 73,
 
 Sandy W5TVW
 - Original Message - 
 From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 1:00 PM
 Subject: [Elecraft] Re: Portable Antennae
 
 
 hi over the years ive done a good bit of portable work. and  the best
 antennae i have used is a vertical . i use a dk9sq 33ft mast with 33ft copper 
 wire taped to the mast ( 1/4 wave on 40m)  an atu and ground wires or on a 
 nice day the wire conected to my k2. useing the atu in the k2 to work other 
 bands ive worked all over the world so me im happy with vertical ants dont 
 take much room and quick to put up wish you goodluck with what you use and 
 most of all
 good fun
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[Elecraft] K3: Avdoiding SPLIT cancellation after in-band FREQ ENTER

2008-03-03 Thread wayne burdick

Doug,

The SPLIT condition will be preserved across a FREQ ENT within the same 
band if you have CONFIG:SPLT SV (split save) set to YES. (This also 
preserves the status of SPLIT/RIT/XIT on every band, independently.)


73,
Wayne
N6KR



From: DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL
Subject: [Elecraft] K3: split freq: time study. CORRECTION

 Apparently, when you do a direct keypad entry, it ERASES the SPLIT
 function.  



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Re: [Elecraft] Portable Antennae

2008-03-03 Thread TR, K2 S/N 838

Dear fellow Elecrafters,

One of the most tiresome traits my fellow amateurs have is to sit 
with me and extol the virtues of their G5RV, Carolina Windom, 3 
element monobander 80 Mtr antenna at 100 tt, or what-ever.  The 
truth is that all antennas have some virtue and it just depends what 
is most important for your application.


I've had great success with ham-sticks on my little Mazda Miata and 
clamping them on wrought iron motel balcony railings.  They're 
portable and light to carry.  In 10 minutes I can be on the air; I'm 
not particular where I talk to, but I enjoy a snappy fist.


Especially tiresome is the oft-heard refrain that verticals radiate 
poorly in all directions.  I'd like to point out that there are about 
6,000 AM Standard Broadcast Stations on the air in the United States, 
and nearly all of them use verticals.  Since the 1920's the vertical 
is one of the most thoroughly researched and documented antennas 
known and they are VERY efficient.  By the way, few of them in the BC 
service are resonant; engineers usually discuss them in degrees 
of  electrical wavelength.


If I were a wealthy man with an RV, and the money to go traveling, I 
would ask myself how much physical effort I wanted to expend against 
the length of time I might be parked in a particular spot.  Next, I 
would wonder if I was seeking DX or NVIS QSO's and consider on what 
band(s) I wanted to operate.


Just my two cents worth.  Thanks for listening.

TR, WB6TMY

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RE: [Elecraft] Price increases - I feel unappreciated!

2008-03-03 Thread Thom LaCosta

On Mon, 3 Mar 2008, Darwin, Keith wrote:


So I'm down to 3 choices.


2.  Order the PA now and be insulated against any further increases.


I have list track of the delivery schedule, but I think there's enough lag time 
to order the PA, and start putting a bit aside a week/paycheck/etc.




3.  Cut my losses completely and just cancel my K3 order figuring the
overall package has just climbed out of reach.


Or, order at the announced price, hope that there is another price increase, 
since I believe that Elecraft stated they would honor prices at the time of 
order, and see it as soon as ya get it for a profit (g).


I'd opt for option 2.

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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Special Split Operation

2008-03-03 Thread Brett Howard
This is why they have software management tools.  He's not having to fret
over remembering every feature and bug fix request.  If he was he'd have
jumped off a bridge long ago!  From what I understand there is a full
software development management environment in place which is probably part
of the reason why bugs can at times poke their heads back up... I've done
that before where I check out the wrong version of a certain file and oops
here comes back a bug.  But those types of things are usually pretty easy to
correct with a good source management tool.  

Anyway...  Don't worry too much about giving the things to worry about... I
think us all sitting quietly and waiting would REALLY freak out the guys at
Elecraft... The wouldn't know what to do with themselves if we were actually
behaved! HIHI

~Brett (KC7OTG)

-Original Message-
From: David Ferrington, M0XDF [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 11:20 AM
To: Brett Howard; 'Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy'
Cc: Crafters
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Special Split Operation

sorry, I wasn't suggesting we don't ask, but I'd like to get the current
outstanding items before I give him much more to think about :)


On 03/03/2008 19:15, Brett Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

 Well if we don't think of ideas or even ask then its on Wayne to figure
out
 what is wanted or needed for every feature all on his own.  Now granted
this
 has worked VERY well for us Elecrafters in the past but I'm sure if you
ask
 him he'd much rather have input on ideas.
 
 Just my opinion.. But maybe I'm all wet.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David Ferrington, M0XDF [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 9:42 AM
 To: Brett Howard; 'Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy'
 Cc: Crafters
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Special Split Operation
 
 I was thinking that we don't know what changes in F/W may arrive when the
 KRX3 becomes available.
 
 
 On 03/03/2008 17:38, Brett Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:
 
 What about the people who don't buy the second RX?  And even still its
 only
 an idea to save time and would save time in the presence or absence of
the
 second RX.  Wouldn't you agree?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David Ferrington, M0XDF [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 3:28 AM
 To: Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy; Brett Howard
 Cc: Crafters
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Special Split Operation
 
 Perhaps we should wait for the KRX3 to be available and then use it a
 little, before asking for Split mods?
 
 
 On 03/03/2008 11:01, Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 sent:
 
 If Crossband Split mode is not an available feature, when working Split
 in
 the same band, and using your example, I would have thought that the
band
 select control system could be used to tell the K3 that 225 means 7.225
 MHz
 
 Sorry I don't know if the K3 can operate in Crossband Split mode (you
 stay
 here on 14.xxx and I'll call you on 50.xxx), but if it can and to carry
 on
 with your example, if the existing system wants all of the numbers when
 frequencies are entered (7.085 and 7.225), you would have to tell the K3
 to
 stay on the same band when entering just 225 after entering 7.085.  If
 Crossband Split is available then I would have thought that there would
 be
 some form of 'Same Band Split - Crossband Split' control, not
necessarily
 a
 front panel control, which could be used just once to do that until
 changing
 bands or going into Crossband Split mode. If that is true then after
 entering 7.085 for the first time it might also be possible to leave out
 the
 7 when entering the frequency for either of the VFOs thereafter when
 using
 Same Band Split, until changing bands or going into Crossband Split
mode.
 
 .Anything to save time during a pileup is a very good idea IMHO :-)
 
 73,
 Geoff
 GM4ESD
 
 
 Brett Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Monday, March 03, 2008
at
 4:14 AM
 
 Lets see if anyone has any opinions on this:
 
 How about the possibility of a special single band split mode.  After
 doing a bit of playing on this latest contest I saw possible value in a
 mode where direct entry automatically assumes you're going to stay on
 the same band.
 
 So if you want to work split and the DX station says my_call
listening
 on 225 and you're on 7.085 and you're in this special mode.  Then you
 could just switch to the other VFO and press enter 225 and then pop
back
 and be ready to rock and roll.  Not having to enter the 7 or the 00 at
 the end could save you a bit of time.  There are times where its
 something like 7.225.5 and for that one could possibly setup the
RIT/XIT
 knob to be able to pull that off in one detent.
 
 Not sure what button I'd implement this on but something in the area of
 freq ent seems reasonable.  Would be nice if you could skip the freq
ent
 button in this mode too as that would make times even faster but would
 make operation of the rest of the rig a bit of an annoyance.
 
 Sorry if my operation is a bit 

[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net Announcement

2008-03-03 Thread Roger Stein
Greetings fellow Elecrafters and Elecrafters-to-be! 

I will take another turn at the mic this evening on 40m. 

The frequency: 7.185 +/- (note:this is a change from before 7.195) 
The time:  6:00 PM Pacific coast time, 9:00 PM East coast time, and 0200 
Real time! 

Hope to hear you on the frequency! 

73, Roger 
WA7BOC 
K3 #75 

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RE: [Elecraft] Anyone using WSJT with a K2?

2008-03-03 Thread Evert Bakker (PA2KW)

Lenny W2BVH wrote:

Has anyone on the list used WSJT FSK441 mode with a K2? If so I'd like 
to hear about your experience.



Hello Lenny,

Yep I did and do! And I can tell you that it works fine. It's a bit late
here, so I won't elaborate, but I use the K2 on 144 Mc FSK441. Although I do
have several problems using the K2 together with the combination homebrew
transvertor / high power amplifier on VHF, I'm very successful in completing
MS (meteor-scatter) QSO's. I use the mic input (SSB-mode) with filter option
OPT1. I will send you a picture of the WSJT audio response next weekend. I
did not make a compromise as far as I'm aware of.

Please send me an e-mail directly with the picture (evert at pa2kw dot com).

I'v been extremely active on 144 MS (using high speed CW from 200 LPM up to
2500 LPM and later on with FSK441) and have 630 squares / 64 DXCC worked
without EME or SAT).

73's, Evert PA2KW

Also vy active on HF!
K2 SN4836
K3 ordered (Nov 2007)


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RE: [Elecraft] Anyone using WSJT with a K2?

2008-03-03 Thread Evert Bakker (PA2KW)
Hi Mike and Lenny,

Using FSK441, don't change the tones (as far as I know you can't).
Just tune in for the RX signal and the DF will show you how to tune in on
your partner. From then on it should be OK.

73's, Evert PA2KW


 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of AD6XY - Mike
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 22:41
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Anyone using WSJT with a K2?


I tried on our 70 MHz band with my XV-70.  The same goes for JT65 as used by
our beacons where I found the tuning very critical. 

I thought nothing of this but maybe you have a point.

Some weeks later on, I tried decoding JT65 on 23cm via an Icom IC910 and it
worked fine. It may be the K2 filter but more likely it was just conditions.


Although the tones are as specified, the tones in practice will depend on
your calibration and Doppler shifts. The WSJT program should be able to
decode the signals if they are off frequency. If you know your filter is off
above 2 kHz, it might pay to tune a few 100Hz higher up the band. That way
signals with positive Doppler are more likely to fall in the pass band.

I am not sure the filter phase response is all that important here because
the mode is not phase coherent. 

Filter ripple may be a problem on transmit, especially is if is as severe as
3-4 dB. It looks like you are receiving and this might be the cause of less
QSOs. Try and alter the TX audio tone frequency but this time down a bit so
it falls into the SSB pass band. You should not need to alter the filter -
simply change WSJT tones instead.

Mike



w2bvh wrote:
 
 Has anyone on the list used WSJT FSK441 mode with a K2? If so I'd like 
 to hear about your experience.
 
 I've tried it with a XV-50 that I recently built and so far have just 
 limited success. I have decoded about 2-3 transmissions (plus another 
 2-4 partials) over 3 Saturday morning random hour WSJT meteor scatter 
 sessions on 6 meters, but so far no successful qsos.  I operated with 
 the K2 set for agc off, usb, and filter OPT1.
 
 My K2 is sn 1520 and was updated to the the most recent firmware at the 
 same time as the XV50 build in order to accommodate the XV50 and the 
 KIO2 which also had to be added to the K2 for 6 meter operation.
 
 According to the wsjt manual FSK441 uses 882, 1323 1764 and 2205 Hz 
 tones in its encoding. My K2's OPT1 filter has the 2205 Hz tone on the 
 IF filters shoulder. By eye its about 3-4 db below the passband. (In a 
 previous version of this email I attached a jpg of the spectrogram plot, 
 but evidently emails with attachments are not permitted here. I can send 
 you a copy directly if it would help).
 
 Is it possible there is too much attenuation or phase distortion of the 
 2205 Hz signaling element for easy WSJT operation?  I have the OPT1 
 filter adjusted for the best sounding ssb voice signal (according to my 
 xyl's careful listening). If it's necessary to move the filter up 
 150-200 Hz for WSJT, it will  affect how my voice comes across in ssb.
 
 What are my best options for good both ssb and wsjt operation with the 
 K2? Are compromises required here or is there a way to get both good SSB 
 and good WSJT?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 73,
 Lenny W2BVH
 
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RE: [Elecraft] Anyone using WSJT with a K2?

2008-03-03 Thread Evert Bakker (PA2KW)
Thanks Don for the historical-technical backup!
I've got SN4836 so won't have that problem.

73's, Evert

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 23:10
To: w2bvh
Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Anyone using WSJT with a K2?

Lenny,

You have the 2.1 kHz filter width installed, and when the BFOs are 
properly adjusted, the high frequency corner of the passband will be 
close to 2300 Hz.

Order the SSBCAPKT from Elecraft and change the SSB filter width to 2.4 
kHz, or even 2.6 kHz.
While you are at it (if you have not already done so), changing the 
filter crystals on both the KSB2 board and the K2 RF board will give you 
a much better filter - the crystals used in K2 below SN 2560 were not 
controlled for motional inductance,  and the new crystals are much better.

73,
Don W3FPR

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[Elecraft] K3: prices - I'm adding to the noise.

2008-03-03 Thread DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL
This price increase should not have been a surprise to anyone.

When the K3 first came out, there were numerous posts about gosh, how
inexpensive is that!.
It was even compared to a loaded K2 and boy..they sure were close.

Did this make sense to us?  Not really (marketing aside).  We were all
rubbing our hands together, thrilled and gleeful at the obvious
mistake Elecraft had made in its pricing.  Don't think so?  Read the
old posts.

The initial price of the KPA3 was LESS THAN the KPA100 for the K2.
Did that make sense?  Not to me.  And with the KPA3, not only do you
get a 100 watt PA, you get TWO cooling fans with a 4 speed controller.

When the price last went up on the PA, it MATCHED the price of the
KPA100.  Still rather strange.

And with the last price increase, there were also posts warning that
we should expect more price increases...certainly before Dayton.
Those warnings did not come from Elecraft, but they were,
nevertheless, out there.  If you trust the folks who post on here
about technical issues, why not take heed in other arenas?

I think the 8 pole filter prices have also just gone up (to $125)
which I THINK is only a $5 increase (maybe I am wrong).

I don't know WHY the prices are going up, but there could be lots of
valid reasons, not the least of which MIGHT BE that after the Sherwood
Engineering and ARRL dynamite reviews, that they are expecting an
avalanche of orders from those who want to the BEST in any class.
YMMV.  If it were my company, sure sounds like as good a time as any
to add in some additional.  I would never define these increase as
greed, but rather as measured increments based on real company
logic.  You can't survive without an adequate margin.

And you know what?  Don't look now, but they are STILL wy less
expensive than the FT9000 or the IC7800 or the TT Orion II.  And the
IC7700 too, but that can't hold a candle to the K3.

The Pro III is going down in price...why not...it is OLD technology
with minor reworking.  Does it work?  Sure?  Is it 'good?' You look up
the ARRL specs and judge for yourself.  Is it cutting edge with the
owners engaging in direct communication with their users and
constantly making a fantastic radio even better?  Don't make me laugh.

The price of the K3 is still a song for this level of radio.  Check
the market.

And look, a loaded K2 is now a much better deal, relatively
speaking.  I still have my K2!  You do have choices!

de Doug KR2Q
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: prices - I'm adding to the noise.

2008-03-03 Thread Joseph M. Durnal
My 2¢ - the cost of materials is going up and the value of the dollar
is falling.  You may have noticed that some other lesser expensive ham
rigs have increased in price too, the Yaesu FT-857 and the Icom IC-706
are up at some stores.  The price has probably went down several euros
since it was introduced!

73 de Joseph Durnal NE3R

On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 6:45 PM, DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This price increase should not have been a surprise to anyone.

 When the K3 first came out, there were numerous posts about gosh, how
 inexpensive is that!.
 It was even compared to a loaded K2 and boy..they sure were close.

 Did this make sense to us?  Not really (marketing aside).  We were all
 rubbing our hands together, thrilled and gleeful at the obvious
 mistake Elecraft had made in its pricing.  Don't think so?  Read the
 old posts.

 The initial price of the KPA3 was LESS THAN the KPA100 for the K2.
 Did that make sense?  Not to me.  And with the KPA3, not only do you
 get a 100 watt PA, you get TWO cooling fans with a 4 speed controller.

 When the price last went up on the PA, it MATCHED the price of the
 KPA100.  Still rather strange.

 And with the last price increase, there were also posts warning that
 we should expect more price increases...certainly before Dayton.
 Those warnings did not come from Elecraft, but they were,
 nevertheless, out there.  If you trust the folks who post on here
 about technical issues, why not take heed in other arenas?

 I think the 8 pole filter prices have also just gone up (to $125)
 which I THINK is only a $5 increase (maybe I am wrong).

 I don't know WHY the prices are going up, but there could be lots of
 valid reasons, not the least of which MIGHT BE that after the Sherwood
 Engineering and ARRL dynamite reviews, that they are expecting an
 avalanche of orders from those who want to the BEST in any class.
 YMMV.  If it were my company, sure sounds like as good a time as any
 to add in some additional.  I would never define these increase as
 greed, but rather as measured increments based on real company
 logic.  You can't survive without an adequate margin.

 And you know what?  Don't look now, but they are STILL wy less
 expensive than the FT9000 or the IC7800 or the TT Orion II.  And the
 IC7700 too, but that can't hold a candle to the K3.

 The Pro III is going down in price...why not...it is OLD technology
 with minor reworking.  Does it work?  Sure?  Is it 'good?' You look up
 the ARRL specs and judge for yourself.  Is it cutting edge with the
 owners engaging in direct communication with their users and
 constantly making a fantastic radio even better?  Don't make me laugh.

 The price of the K3 is still a song for this level of radio.  Check
 the market.

 And look, a loaded K2 is now a much better deal, relatively
 speaking.  I still have my K2!  You do have choices!

 de Doug KR2Q
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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Remote Control...

2008-03-03 Thread Bill Harris

I vote YES for an Ethernet connector

Carry-on
Bill Harris w7kxb

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 Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 19:14:20 +0100
 CC: 
 
 At the moment remote control is via the RS232 (COM port) connector, you will 
 eventually be able to control all aspects of the radio. For audio there are 
 various solutions available already.

 An Ethernet connector / solution has not been suggested so far.
 
 Simon Brown, HB9DRV
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Anyone using WSJT with a K2?

2008-03-03 Thread Bill W5WVO
Just to elaborate on what Evert is saying below -- You want to tune the 
receiver frequency using RIT, with the FSK441 DF (Delta frequency) reading as 
your guide. You do NOT want to tweak with the transmit frequency. Set your 
main VFO to the frequency agreed upon (e.g., 50.255 MHz) and leave it there. 
The other guy will get a DF reading indicating how far your frequency is from 
his frequency, and he will adjust his RIT to compensate for that (if 
necessary). You can do the same for his signal. If you change your TX 
frequency using either the VFO or XIT, that will mess him all up.  :-)  And 
vice-versa. Use only the RIT for receive tuning.


In truth, the WSJT FSK441 decode engine is capable of automatically resolving 
a DF of up to 400 Hz. You may be able to filter out a lot of noise by tuning 
the signal closer with RIT such that the reported DF number gets smaller, and 
then narrowing the WSJT passband accordingly -- but this is usually 
unnecessary with pings of moderate or better strength.


Bill W5WVO


Evert Bakker (PA2KW) wrote:

Hi Mike and Lenny,

Using FSK441, don't change the tones (as far as I know you can't).
Just tune in for the RX signal and the DF will show you how to tune
in on your partner. From then on it should be OK.

73's, Evert PA2KW




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I tried on our 70 MHz band with my XV-70.  The same goes for JT65 as
used by our beacons where I found the tuning very critical.

I thought nothing of this but maybe you have a point.

Some weeks later on, I tried decoding JT65 on 23cm via an Icom IC910
and it worked fine. It may be the K2 filter but more likely it was
just conditions.


Although the tones are as specified, the tones in practice will
depend on your calibration and Doppler shifts. The WSJT program
should be able to decode the signals if they are off frequency. If
you know your filter is off above 2 kHz, it might pay to tune a few
100Hz higher up the band. That way signals with positive Doppler are
more likely to fall in the pass band.

I am not sure the filter phase response is all that important here
because the mode is not phase coherent.

Filter ripple may be a problem on transmit, especially is if is as
severe as 3-4 dB. It looks like you are receiving and this might be
the cause of less QSOs. Try and alter the TX audio tone frequency but
this time down a bit so it falls into the SSB pass band. You should
not need to alter the filter - simply change WSJT tones instead.

Mike



w2bvh wrote:


Has anyone on the list used WSJT FSK441 mode with a K2? If so I'd
like to hear about your experience.

I've tried it with a XV-50 that I recently built and so far have just
limited success. I have decoded about 2-3 transmissions (plus another
2-4 partials) over 3 Saturday morning random hour WSJT meteor
scatter sessions on 6 meters, but so far no successful qsos.  I
operated with the K2 set for agc off, usb, and filter OPT1.

My K2 is sn 1520 and was updated to the the most recent firmware at
the same time as the XV50 build in order to accommodate the XV50 and
the KIO2 which also had to be added to the K2 for 6 meter operation.

According to the wsjt manual FSK441 uses 882, 1323 1764 and 2205 Hz
tones in its encoding. My K2's OPT1 filter has the 2205 Hz tone on
the IF filters shoulder. By eye its about 3-4 db below the passband.
(In a previous version of this email I attached a jpg of the
spectrogram plot, but evidently emails with attachments are not
permitted here. I can send you a copy directly if it would help).

Is it possible there is too much attenuation or phase distortion of
the 2205 Hz signaling element for easy WSJT operation?  I have the
OPT1 filter adjusted for the best sounding ssb voice signal
(according to my xyl's careful listening). If it's necessary to move
the filter up 150-200 Hz for WSJT, it will  affect how my voice
comes across in ssb.

What are my best options for good both ssb and wsjt operation with
the K2? Are compromises required here or is there a way to get both
good SSB and good WSJT?

Thanks in advance.

73,
Lenny W2BVH

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RE: [Elecraft] Price increases - I feel unappreciated!

2008-03-03 Thread Dale Putnam

Well... I pretty much figure it this way, I had to wait past the first 
announcements of the K3, ... 
after analyzing things a bit... and taking aim at the goal... figured that I 
might be able to liquidate enough
to make a K3... but wait.. if it is really underpriced... and it is... then who 
is really taking a hit here...???
Then, just about the time I realized that... the oh my the sky is falling 
economic cries became very audible even without filters... or dsp... in the 
mean time... a K2 found a home... which only proves that a good rx is exactly 
what I need... to go alongside a slightly modified IC761 but also with a R4C 
with the Sherwood mods... then Mr. Sherwood did make measurement sights... and 
oh my oh dear.. the price of the sought after K3.. is going up... and just 
maybe just maybe by a tiny little bit... the folks that really deserve not 
to take a hit, by a bunch... will not have to take as much a hit when I order 
mine soon.
  So.. to sum it all up... the price increase is not even noticable, when you 
run the rig through its paces... and pop through pileups,. call the dx 
station before all the others call... continue to keep a run going in the 
contest, even tho there are challangers on both sides... and... and keep the 
enjoyable radio experience alive and well, as you take a deep, full sigh of 
satisfaction after a radio session, as you shut the switches off, and watch 
as the light fades away...from the leds.. *I know.. that doesn't take 
long*...
just about as long as it takes to have the desire to get back on again... with 
your very own K3.


--... ...--
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[Elecraft] K3 RS232 Pin Assignment Error?

2008-03-03 Thread John Silva N3AM
Page 18 of the K3 Owner's Manual (Rev C1, Nov 18, 2007) designates 
RS232 pin 6 as RTS, but the EIA standard says pin 6 is DSR, and pin 7 
is RTS.  Is this an error in the manual?


John N3AM

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RE: [Elecraft] K3 RS232 Pin Assignment Error?

2008-03-03 Thread Greg
Thanks for catching this John.  We had another report of this today and the
manual will be corrected in the next revision.

Pin 6 should be listed as not used.  Pin 7 should be the RTS pin.

Don...Could you put this on the Wiki also?

Thanks

73
Greg
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Page 18 of the K3 Owner's Manual (Rev C1, Nov 18, 2007) designates
RS232 pin 6 as RTS, but the EIA standard says pin 6 is DSR, and pin 7
is RTS.  Is this an error in the manual?

John N3AM

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key

2008-03-03 Thread AJSOENKE
In a message dated 3/3/2008 12:28:35 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The finger tabs on this keyer are they held  by rivets or screws?  On my
other Bencher the finger tabs are held by  rivets and the dit paddle is
getting loose which is a bit annoying.   Anyone have any tips on this or
info on the hex?

Thanks much  gentlemen.

~Brett  (KC7OTG)
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[Elecraft] K3 first impressions from ARRL DX SSB (long)

2008-03-03 Thread Jeff Kinzli N6GQ
First off, this is a LONG email, so be warned :)
 
I picked up K3 #476 in Aptos the weekend before the contest, then
hopped on a plane to do the ARRL DX SSB contest from KH6LC. I thought
others might be interested in first impressions from a contester that
had not used a K3 before last week. There is also one quality that
became apparent with the K3 that I've never seen in another radio
before and I wonder if others have noticed it...more on that in a bit.

I arrived in KH6 Wednesday evening, and had a nice dinner with Lloyd,
KH6LC, in Hilo. On Thursday, it was my job to get the station all
prepped for the contest. I put up a 2 element yagi for 80M, got the K3
put into the operating position, connected it up with the amp and
computers, and started making QSOs on 20M and trying to get the audio
and speech processor optimized. After a few emails with k3support, and
on-air reports and tweaking, I had the audio pretty well optimized,
and many ensuing QSOs commented on the quality of the audio. For what
it's worth, I used a Heil Proset with HC-4 element, and had mic gain
at about 25-30, Compression at 10-12, and used the TX EQ to drop the
two lowest bands a few dB, and up'd the center band by a few dB. This
seemed to be the best setting for punch, understandability, and
comfort on the ears according to on-air reports. I also had a few
local hams check off to the side of my signal and they said the signal
was clean and narrow, so that's good.

Things that immediately stand out with the K3:

- Layout of controls is awesome. For a contester, all the things I
need to get to are quickly and easily accessible. Hats off to the
ergonomic engineering that Elecraft did!

- The K3 receiver really is as good as everyone says it is. I didn't
use the preamp in the contest, and found that I really like that mode
(no preamp) Weak signals floated in front of me, and just waited for
me to pull them out. I'll talk more about this in a bit.

- I watched temperature of the PA in the K3 as well as the other FP
temp and it stayed pretty solid, never got really that warm.

- It's light! I packed the K3, my clothes and all my needs for a week
in 1 carryon bag.

- It handles very strong, nearby signals with ease. Big S9+ signals
within a few KC's is no problem, it's like they're not even there.

Unfortunately, about half way through the weekend the amplifier that I
was using developed a problem and I decided to punt and move to the
other operating position - but in the heat of the contest I didn't
feel I could afford the time to move the K3 into position, so I only
got 24 hours of the contest in with the K3. None the less, I did find that
in this time, I was able to mind meld with the K3 and found a very
interesting quality that I eluded to above, that I've not seen or
heard before in other radios.

I had AFX set to delay 5, and with the Heil proset for headphones,
after a while I found that the spatial representation of signals
started to become 3 dimensional. It was as if signals were spatially
separated in an area around my head rather than just in my ears. The
soundstage (as it's referred to in audiophile circles) was big and
weak signals seem to almost float out in space and take on an almost
tangible quality to them. I know what some of you must be thinking
right now, Oh man, I want what this guy is smoking! but really, it
does become pronounced after using the radio for a while.

I read about the increased spatial characteristic of AFX, but what I'm
talking about only becomes apparent after a good number of hours in
the chair, and I'm not convinced one would notice it if you sat down,
operated for 2 hours, took a break, sat down, etc. but with 10-12
hours of constant operating, it started to become quite pronounced.

First, I wonder if others have noticed this, and second, I wonder if
this was something that Elecraft engineering thought of, or if it's
just a by-product of design that is a nice bonus. Either way, I've
never heard anything like this on other rigs (Orion, FT1000's, etc.).
It's very cool and actually seems to enhance the ability to pull weak
signals out.

On the other hand, the Binaural mode seems like (at least in my setup)
to have noise in one ear, and signals in the other. It's separated and
pronounced, and I didn't really care for it, I much prefer Delay 5 in
AFX mode.

I had a bit of a hard time getting used to VFO A/B when operating
split on 40M. It wasn't as intuitive to me as other VFO setups, but
after a while I got used to it and it wasn't an issue.

So I'm very pleased with the first outing with the K3. It delivered on
what I was hoping. I just wish propagation would have been better,
this was one of the worst contests I've ever done in terms of
propagation, but I guess the good thing is that everyone is faced with
the same playing field. My score was significantly below my goal
numbers, but when conditions are poor, all bets are off, and I think a
lot of casual contesters probably either threw in the 

Re: [Elecraft] K3 first impressions from ARRL DX SSB (long)

2008-03-03 Thread Jeff Kinzli N6GQ
On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 9:37 PM, Ed Muns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I hope this is useful to some, I'd love to talk to others
   that have experienced the spatial characteristic of the AFX
   mode, or hear Elecraft's input on how that was done.

  Most people have found AFX to be positive.  Many contesters leave it on all
  the time and miss it when they put one radio in each ear with SO2R.
  However, there is a range of preferences for which setting is best, i.e.,
  pseudo-stereo delay 1-5 or binaural.  As I recall, the majority of people
  settle on one of the pseudo-stereo delay 3, 4 or 5.  Also, the reported
  effect is very different across users.  One person reports dizziness and
  can't use it.  Others report a specific 3-D spatial relationship between
  signal in the pass band.  Still others can't describe what it is like, but
  are outspoken that it is better for picking signals out of noise.

  I think your experience and description falls right into the range of
  experiences the rest of us are having, but for each it is unique.

Pfew! As I was describing that to some of the other hams on the
island,  I started to think that I must sound like the sleep
deprivation must be taking a toll on my sanity, but I'm glad to hear
that it's somewhat normal.

  P.S.  Apologies for saying Hi, Lloyd every time we worked this weekend.  I
  forgot you were guest-opting there.

No problem, Ed, you're always loud out there, as is K6XX, who I think
is near you. You guys have a great location.

73,

Jeff N6GQ
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[Elecraft] RE: Price Increases

2008-03-03 Thread Dave Agsten

Doug Wrote:

This price increase should not have been a surprise
to anyone.

When the K3 first came out, there were numerous posts
about gosh, how
inexpensive is that!.
It was even compared to a loaded K2 and boy..they
sure were close.

Did this make sense to us?  Not really (marketing
aside).  We were all
rubbing our hands together, thrilled and gleeful at
the obvious
mistake Elecraft had made in its pricing.  Don't
think so?  Read the
old posts.

The initial price of the KPA3 was LESS THAN the KPA100
for the K2.
Did that make sense?  Not to me.  And with the KPA3,
not only do you
get a 100 watt PA, you get TWO cooling fans with a 4
speed controller.

You forgot to mention that the K3 is still less than
an Omni VII. It's even less with the second receiver
added in. I did a configuration of the Omni VII with
500Hz filter  shipping to my address. $2793. The
K3/100 with 500Hz filter AND second receiver. $2516 
True, the K3 is in kit form, but it's fun to put it
together. ($2816 Factory Built) There's no second
receiver option for the Omni VII.

I guess those who ordered early are being indirectly
rewarded for their wait. I was lucky enough to change
my filters and add the KXV3 before the first increase.
I have K3 #414 and it was worth the wait and it was a
bargain when you consider I paid less for it than the
PRO III I bought a year ago.

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RE: [Elecraft] K3 first impressions from ARRL DX SSB (long)

2008-03-03 Thread Ed Muns
 I hope this is useful to some, I'd love to talk to others 
 that have experienced the spatial characteristic of the AFX 
 mode, or hear Elecraft's input on how that was done.

Most people have found AFX to be positive.  Many contesters leave it on all
the time and miss it when they put one radio in each ear with SO2R.
However, there is a range of preferences for which setting is best, i.e.,
pseudo-stereo delay 1-5 or binaural.  As I recall, the majority of people
settle on one of the pseudo-stereo delay 3, 4 or 5.  Also, the reported
effect is very different across users.  One person reports dizziness and
can't use it.  Others report a specific 3-D spatial relationship between
signal in the pass band.  Still others can't describe what it is like, but
are outspoken that it is better for picking signals out of noise.

I think your experience and description falls right into the range of
experiences the rest of us are having, but for each it is unique.

73,
Ed - W0YK

P.S.  Apologies for saying Hi, Lloyd every time we worked this weekend.  I
forgot you were guest-opting there.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 first impressions from ARRL DX SSB (long)

2008-03-03 Thread WILLIS COOKE

--- Jeff Kinzli N6GQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 First off, this is a LONG email, so be warned :)
  
 I picked up K3 #476 in Aptos the weekend before the
 contest, then


Great write up Jeff.  I noticed that when I called you
popped right back to me even though I was low power
with 50 to 80 watts.  Sorry I missed you on 160 and 75
but got you on the other four.  You whetted my
appetite for my K3, but since I didn't order until Dec
27 I have a few months to savor the thought.

73, Cookie, K5EWJ

Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ
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[Elecraft] Elecraft Cover Inquiries

2008-03-03 Thread Ken Kopp
I -think- my e-mail delivery problems are fixed, and I hope 
everyone who has requested information about my Elecraft 
and HexKey covers has received a reply.  


If not, please send me another request.

Rose Kopp - N7HKW
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[Elecraft] High Accuracy TCXO

2008-03-03 Thread Brett Howard
Does the higher accuracy TCXO result in lower phase noise?  If so in dB
how much lower would one expect out of a delta in 4 ppm and 4.5 ppm.
This is assuming the 4ppm which one will get with out implementation of
firmware correction and 4.5 ppm delta which one will obtain once this
feature is implemented in firmware.

~Brett (KC7OTG)
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