Re: [Elecraft] KX-1 20 Meter Deafness

[Kurt Pawlikowski]

Don,

   Still frustrated...

   I removed the LPF board and removed both L1 and L2. I then "hard 
wired" them in, just the way they would be with the board and the relay 
"off." This had no affect on the symptoms: The XG-2 signal still seems 
to be being coupled direct to the board (1 uv 50 uv switch does not 
change tone volume). The next step is to drag down my boat anchor 
oscilloscope and take some measurements. I expect the signal level 
before T2 to be too small for my old equipment to see (I don't think 
it'll do micro volts - I'll have to check though.). Anyway, with the 
XG-2 on 20 meters, what signal strength (p-p) should I be seeing at 
different points of the circuit? I'm thinking of several points between 
the antenna up to the mixer with both the 50 and 1 uv output (I may have 
a hard time measuring the 50 uv level, much less the 1!). Any other 
ideas are welcome...


   Regards,

   kurtt

   Kurt Pawlikowski, AKA WB9FMC
   The Pinrod Corporation
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Don Wilhelm wrote:

Kurt,

From all you have said, I would believe that the problem is in the 
KXB3080 low pass filter.
While I agree that your continuity test indicates no apparent problem 
with the toroid lead tinning, check all the connections to be certain 
there is a bit of solder on both sides of the board - if not, view 
that connection with suspicion.


Make certain there is no contact with the green wire from L2 to the 
lower connection of the red wire.  The green wire must wrap around to 
the back side of the LPF board and can inadvertently contact the #4 
termination of the wire for the red winding.


The best LPF testing is visual - look for any suspicious solder 
connections.  Yes, you will see a 17 MHz cutoff on the LPF if you 
measure it without regard to disconnecting it from the rest of the 
circuit and failing to properly terminate the filter (it is not 50 
ohms at the PA transistor side, but I have not ever calculated the 
proper termination).


Perhaps it is helpful if I tell you that the green winding is the only 
active portion on 40, 30 and 20 meters.  The red winding is used for 
80 meters and SWB band below about 6 MHz only.


Caution:  The sensitivity of the KX1 is not as great on 20 meters as 
it is on 30 or 40 meters.  Bringing a finger (or antenna) close to T2 
or many of the receiver tuned circuits after the LPF  will normally 
result in an increase in receiver total output, but that is actually 
an increase in broadband noise - under careful measurement conditions, 
the desired signal strength will not increase even though the overall 
noise level does.  Spectrogram will show that is true.


73,
Don W3FPR

Kurt Pawlikowski wrote:

Hi,

   First, thanks for reading. Hopefully, it won't be boring for those
lucky K3 guys and gals...

   CONFIGURATION

   KX-1, 3080 upgrade. ATU currently removed and antenna jumper
installed for testing.Using XG-2 as a signal source. I have confirmed
the XG-2 seems to be working about as expected with another receiver
(about S-10 at 50uv and S-0 (but still in the speakers) at 1uv).

   SYMPTOM

   With normal operation, receive levels appear normal on 80 and 40 (I
can make contacts), but the XG2 is not peaking the KX-1's meter (I used
the XG-2 to calibrate the meter). 20 meters has always seemed deaf to
me. I don't remember how well the XG-2 was received on 20 when I
calibrated it. Here's the real "kicker": On 20 meters, with the XG-2
attached, I hear *no* volume difference between 50 and 1uv (which means
the KX-1's receiver is picking up the signal by proximity, not through
the antenna connection). If I touch the RX antenna connection almost
anywhere between the low-pass filter and the input of the Rx Mixer (U6,
pin 1), 20 meters comes way up (from nothing to receiving moderately
weak signals and noise). Touching the RX antenna line on 80 and 40
appears to have little or no affect. Output power on 20 meters does not
register full power, but I'm not sure if this is a calibration problem
as I don't have an accurate power meter. Also, when I couple a grid dip
meter into the RX, when tuned to 30 or 20 meters, I get a marked "dip"
just at about 17 MHz.




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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Auto CW copy

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

Tom makes an excellent point.

Like spoken or written language, we consider the context when copying CW.
That's how we can copy words even when we miss some characters. And, when we
see the end of a recognizable word, we automatically assume that is the end.
That is, we often sense a space where there isn't one. That's why a word
like "superstructure", taken out of context, is easily copied as "super
structure" even when there is no intentional space. 

An unforgiving algorithm measuring the time and reporting accordingly is a
great training aid if you want to approach "machine timing". 

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-

On Tue, 20 May 2008 20:12:14 -0700, you wrote:

>I have noticed that the CW text display of auto copied CW signals often 
>does not get the spacing between words and runs words together. When I 
>copy the same text in my head the word spacing seems pretty good. Also 
>when I send CW it will also run words together. So I am wondering about 
>a tweak to the algorithm. Making a computer copy CW of unknown speed 
>must be difficult. But everyone knows my code is perfect :)

I noticed the same thing when I was sending, but when I paid more attention
to making sure my timing between words was consistent the spacing improved
along with my sending ;o)  What a nice tool for improving my sending!

>On the other hand I had a QSO with a near local (80 miles) and he had 
>trouble copying me because of QRM. I was dialed down to 50 Hz and heard 
>no other signal present. I opened up to 1 KHz and there they all were. 
>Isn't that great or what?
>
>Mike Scott - AE6WA
>Tarzana, CA (DM04 / near LA)
>K3-100 #508/ KX1  #1311

Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq

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RE: [Elecraft] Elecraft Honchos!!!

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

Another poster brought up Elecraft and original Volkswagen beetle cars. 

I can remember when people grumbled a lot but patiently waited more than six
months for a Volkswagen beetle, back in the 1950's, and it didn't even have
a gas gage! 

They, too, were eagerly ramping up production as fast as they could but,
like Elecraft, refused to compromise quality in the process.

The result was one of the most successful automobile companies in history.

They're a good example to follow. 

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-

On Tue, 20 May 2008 15:06:31 -0700, Jim/nn6ee wrote:

>
>Look! This is Ham-Radio and it's all about "instant gratification" and 
>you should know that as a

Yeah, that's right... most of us took a crash course in CW, learning it
overnight. Then worked all band DXCC the next day. And we expect the solar
flux to be at 300 in another week here or so. So where's our K3's? We didn't
become ham radio operators becuase we like to wait around for stuff. No sir.

73,
Drew
AF2Z

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[Elecraft] love and loans

[Charles Harpole]

Bill: That could be true, but if u can loan me about $60,000usd, I will 
purchase the empty lot behind my house and install my 4 existing HyGain 
HyTowers in a 
4-square on 80 to replace my 80 dipole and little rcv loop.  That way, I may 
even be able to talk about a path other than what the dipole hands me.  And, my 
Kilo Trey  may be back someday, too.

Thailand banks will not give me a mortgage, but I will sign papers for your 
loan to do a monthly re-payment of the loan.  
Heck, I maybe can even set it up where u may own the lot...   Please let me 
know  

And, u r welcome in my Thai shack to bring YOUR good ears here and work some 
80.  Would love to have a visit 

73,


Charles Harpole, HS0ZCW
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Now I understand why HS0ZCW was as deaf as a stone on 80m long path! :-)
>
> 73, Bill W4ZV
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Auto CW copy

[Tom Childers, N5GE]

On Tue, 20 May 2008 20:12:14 -0700, you wrote:

>I have noticed that the CW text display of auto copied CW signals often does
>not get the spacing between words and runs words together. When I copy the
>same text in my head the word spacing seems pretty good. Also when I send CW
>it will also run words together. So I am wondering about a tweak to the
>algorithm. Making a computer copy CW of unknown speed must be difficult. But
>everyone knows my code is perfect :)

I noticed the same thing when I was sending, but when I paid more attention to
making sure my timing between words was consistent the spacing improved along
with my sending ;o)  What a nice tool for improving my sending!

>On the other hand I had a QSO with a near local (80 miles) and he had
>trouble copying me because of QRM. I was dialed down to 50 Hz and heard no
>other signal present. I opened up to 1 KHz and there they all were. Isn't
>that great or what?
>
>Mike Scott - AE6WA
>Tarzana, CA (DM04 / near LA)
>K3-100 #508/ KX1  #1311
>
>
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[Elecraft] K3 Auto CW copy

[Mike Scott]

I have noticed that the CW text display of auto copied CW signals often does
not get the spacing between words and runs words together. When I copy the
same text in my head the word spacing seems pretty good. Also when I send CW
it will also run words together. So I am wondering about a tweak to the
algorithm. Making a computer copy CW of unknown speed must be difficult. But
everyone knows my code is perfect :)

On the other hand I had a QSO with a near local (80 miles) and he had
trouble copying me because of QRM. I was dialed down to 50 Hz and heard no
other signal present. I opened up to 1 KHz and there they all were. Isn't
that great or what?

Mike Scott - AE6WA
Tarzana, CA (DM04 / near LA)
K3-100 #508/ KX1  #1311


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Re: [Elecraft] K3: used listing (10 watt)

[Bill W5WVO]

That, plus some hams are just obligate horse-traders. I know one such. He is
constantly buying and selling and trading rigs, never staying with anything
more than a few weeks. He has bought and sold the same model of a couple
different low-end transceivers numerous times. I think he likes this aspect
of the hobby more than actually operating! :-) To each his own.

Bill W5WVO


- Original Message - 
From: "Matt Patterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 6:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: used listing (10 watt)


> Most likely to make a nice profit as they are very much in demand right
> now.  It's actually pretty brilliant, wait until after Dayton after
> thousands of hams have seen the product and dream about owning one, then
> list it on QTH.com and let the offers roll in.
>
> Either that, or he needs gas money. :-)
>
> 73 Matt
> W5LL
>
> On Tue, 2008-05-20 at 05:22 -0700, Steve Jackson wrote:
> > Another K3 on the used market ...
> >
> >
http://swap.qth.com/search-results.php?keywords=666439&fieldtosearch=ListingNo
> >
> > It strikes me as odd to see such listings, personally.
> > This is a superlative radio, and one that's backordered for months.
> > Indeed, I am awaiting my own Katiegram in another 4 or 5 weeks.
> >
> > Why would someone *sell* one, and in this instance, for the second time?
> > Oh, well, it's a great opportunity for somebody.
> >
> > Steve KZ1X/4
> > owner of the World's Most Experienced Elecraft
> > (and, celebrating my ninth straight year on this reflector)
> >
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] Lead time

[Nick Kennedy]

I'm not sure I get it.  When I ordered my K3, I carefully counted out 
the projected 4 months plus a couple weeks extra to get it in time for 
Field Day. This was the lead time for new orders given on the web site.  
But I'm looking at probably 5 months.  Yet the projection continued to 
be 4 months from then until now.


I'm smiling and stoic, and I understand the difficulty in making a firm 
prediction, but what is the difference between that projection and the 
current one?


73--Nick, WA5BDU



Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:

Hi Jim,

The lead time on the web site is for new orders, not for ones placed 
4-5 months ago (which is being tracked by everyone so diligently ;-) .


We are continually ramping up our production rate on a weekly basis. 
We are definitely producing now at a sustained rate higher than we 
were 3-4 months ago, and our plans in place are for this to increase 
another 50-75% over the summer.


73, Eric
---

Jim Cox wrote:
I figure about 5 months (certainly not 4 as advertised on the web site) 

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[Elecraft] Re: New K1 FS

[Brent Sutphin]

Sorry, in my original post I failed to mention that the K1 is the 4 band 
model.  It is built

to work 15, 20, 30 and 40 meters.  The VFO is set to cover the lower 80 khz
of the bands.   Again I am sorry this info was not included before.  I have 
pictures available if interested.


72
Brent  WB4X

- Original Message - 
From: "Brent Sutphin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 8:44 AM
Subject: New K1 FS


I have a brand new Elecraft K1 that I have just completed for sale.  The 
radio works perfectly and meets all specifications.  It is new, serial 
number is 02528.  It has the backlight option installed and comes with the 
manual and connectors for the power cord and key.


I have been building kits for over thirty years and have built several 
Elecraft kits.  So if you want to experience the fun of QRP the K1 is a 
great rig.  I enjoy building them.


Price for the radio is $400 plus shipping. I will accept PayPal but prefer 
USPS Money Order.


Thanks
Brent  WB4X



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[Elecraft] K3 - Yeah! It's Here!

[John W2XS]

Today UPS delivered K3 S/N 919 which was ordered on Dec 8, 2007. I will now
spread out the ESD mat and hook up the ground strap and begin the fun.

Thank you, Elecraft.

73,

John W2XS

KX1 (S/N 015) w/KXPD1, KXAT1, KXB30
K2 (S/N 1116) w/KAT2, KSB2, K160RX, KIO2, KBT2, KNB2, KAF2, FDIMP, KPA100
T4X (S/N 6) (kind of a coincidence)
K3/100 (S/N 919) w/KAT3, KBPF3, KUSB, KFL3A-200, 500, 2.7K, AM, FM
HexKey (S/N 113)
DL1, BL1, BL2, N-gen, XG1, BNC-MM, W1



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Microphone selection

[Jim Brown]

On Thu, 1 May 2008 18:47:42 -0700, Mike Scott wrote:

>I too have been wanting a new microphone. I only want a desk microphone 
(I
>am absolutely not interested in a mobile mic) and I only want a 
microphone
>that has a flat frequency response. 

See the discussion of microphones and transceiver equalization in 

http://audiosystemsgroup.com/HamInterfacing.pdf  

and supporting tutorial material in 

http://audiosystemsgroup.com/RFI-Ham.pdf

I work in the world of pro audio, and own a lot of good mics. I use an EV 
RE-16, because that's the most suitable one that I own. EV RE-10, 11, 15, 
18, 20, and 27, Shure SM53 and SM54, AKG D202 and D224 would all work 
equally well. BUT -- these are hand held professional mics. They come with 
a stand adapter, and you put them on a stand. I use a floor-mounted boom 
stand, because I have a lot of them and it works for me. There are many 
good desk stands to choose from. Atlas/Soundolier is a good brand in the 
US. 

In general, communications mics do NOT have anything approaching flat 
response. See the two weblinks for a discussion of why this is true. 

I'm a serious contester and occasional DX-chaser, so I tweak my audio for 
maximum punchiness without distortion. My K3 is set for HIGH mic gain at 
the front panel input, the RE16 is wired directly between the input and 
the connector shell, and the mic gain is at 25. I have the EQ set for -6dB 
on the first four bands. +3dB on the highest band. On-the-air testing with 
my signal down in the other guy's noise tells me it's nice and punchy. My 
K3 is only four days old, and I haven't had strong signal reports on the 
audio yet, so I may tweak those settings before I'm done.  

I have several RE16s, and I've used used them quite successfully with my 
K2, FT1000MP, TS850, and Omni V. I had to modify the K2 audio system a bit 
to get enough gain for the RE16, and I also added a lot of low cut. 

All of the mics listed above are directional, so they reject at least half 
of the noise in your shack (like the fans in your power supply). If your 
shack is quiet, you could do quite well with mics like the EV635A.  

Note that very few pro mics come with switches, and those that do have a 
lot of proximity effect (bass boost when used close-up). Bass boost is the 
LAST thing you want in a ham mic. I own about 40 mics, and none of them 
have switches. Furthermore, any mic with a PTT switch is going to be a 
communications mic, and will have the extreme EQ (see the pdf).  The K3 
has excellent VOX, and it's easy to hook up a foot switch for PTT. Why do 
you need/want a switch?  

BTW -- Heil Sound puts cheap electret capsules in pretty packages and 
sells them for a lot of money (FAR more than they're worth). The only real 
value-add I've seen from Heil is the excellent physical construction of 
their headset/boom mics. BUT -- we've experienced RFI problems at N6RO 
with Heil headsets that have built-in electronics. :) 

73,

Jim Brown K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Filter width and cutting off CW

[Gill W4RYW]

Make sure the shift is normal (press shift till you get Norm). Make sure you
have gain set for narrow filters in config menu pa 43 of manual. Make sure
narrow filter is set for cw receive (enabled). Make sure freq offset is set
correctly. All this stuff is on pa 43 of manual. I have 500 hz and 250 hz
filters and they work great!

Good luck!

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Honchos!!!

[drewko1]

On Tue, 20 May 2008 15:06:31 -0700, Jim/nn6ee wrote:

>
>Look! This is Ham-Radio and it's all about "instant gratification" and you 
>should know that as a 

Yeah, that's right... most of us took a crash course in CW, learning
it overnight. Then worked all band DXCC the next day. And we expect
the solar flux to be at 300 in another week here or so. So where's our
K3's? We didn't become ham radio operators becuase we like to wait
around for stuff. No sir.

73,
Drew
AF2Z

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Re: [Elecraft] Anti-Static Mat recommendation

[Thaire Bryant]

It's available on Amazon...shipping is a lot less (free for Amazon Prime 
Members)
- Original Message - 
From: "Bill Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 10:03 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] Anti-Static Mat recommendation


My K3 happened to arrive at the height of the static season. You couldn't 
touch any conducting surface in my shack, including the K3,  without 
getting zapped. I stumbled on the StarTech 24 inch by 26 inch Anti-Static 
Mat on the Radio Shack web site, bought one (Web only) and put it on my 
operating desk. Voila! No more static problems. You just can't help 
touching it before you touch the radio or key. I bought two more for my 
work bench and was able to work with ICs all winter with no worries. They 
lay flat and wrinkle free and look like large desk blotters. This is not 
the same product as the in-store Radio Shack mat. I bought one of those 
and took it back because it didn't lay flat. One little caveat: You have 
to distort the snap fastener a bit so it makes positive contact with the 
grounding lead.
I can't find the StarTech mat on the Radio Shack web site any more, but 
this is the link to the product on the StarTech web site: 
http://www.startech.com/Product/ItemDetail.aspx?productid=M3013

I hope this helps someone.
Bill   AD6JV
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Re: [Elecraft] The K3 in comprison to the Big Guns

[David Wilburn]

I find it a bit entertaining that the 7800, 10k$ rig, ended up next to 
the 'build it yourself' K2.  I was under the impression that the 6k$ 
7700 used the same receiver, and thus performance wise, placed it next 
to the K2.  Then I consider that the K2 has been around since the late 
90's, and I just end up with a pretty good chuckle.


But as stated, the K2, and K3 do not compete with the fancy displays 
and such.  It will be interesting to see if Elecraft does a display on 
their own, or if they rely on the LP-PAN.


I was chuckling at the analogies to cars earlier in one of the 
threads.  I didn't get the VW thing either.  I could see it for the 
K2.  I like to think of plane's.  I did not have a chance to finish my 
pilot's license, but one friend that was working on his license the 
same time I did, and I would chat over a beer.  He always wanted to 
fly fast, in something like a Lear Jet.  I always wanted to fly upside 
down in something like a Pitts S2A.




Or as my wife will tell you, I never was, and am never likely to be 
considered 'normal'.


I do enjoy my K3 though.  Think I will go see what is happening on 20m 
RTTY.  73



Dave Wilburn
K4DGW
K2/100 - S/N 5982
K3/100 - S/N 766

"For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will 
never know."



Jim Miller wrote:

Here's one.  http://www.sherweng.com/table.html

73, Jim

- Original Message - 
From: "Robert Allbright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "ELECRAFT" 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 7:16 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] The K3 in comprison to the Big Guns



Dave, W7AQK

you said

I haven't studied the 7700's performance
ratings, but apparently they are not nearly as good as the K3.

Where did you get this info I wonder? do you have one?

Well, we shall see when the reviews are published, apparently the RSGB
review on the 7700 is due June.
I think that the K3 will hard pressed to beat the 7700 in usability  
and performance!
I've had one for several weeks now and am looking forward to the  
review in a few days time.


73 Rob G3RCE



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Re: [Elecraft] KRX3 status

[Lyle Johnson]

Are the KRX3s shipping? The website indicates that shipments are to begin on
5/12


KRX3s were shipped to the Field Test group last week and are in active 
test by them as I write this.


73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Honchos!!!

[Mark Bayern]

You must have missed the post this afternoon from Eric with the
subject 'Lead Time':

"We are continually ramping up our production rate on a weekly basis.
We are definitely producing now at a sustained rate higher than we
were 3-4 months ago, and our plans in place are for this to increase
another 50-75% over the summer."

Elecraft is (well ... was) a small company producing kits. How long
did it take to get to 1000 K2s? It looks they'll reach the 1000 K3
mark soon.

Mark  AD5SS




On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 5:06 PM, JIM DAVIS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm very interested in purchasing one of your NEW K3s but what I have a hard
> time understanding is about the production "lag-time" (4mo. now?") If you
> guys KNOW that you've got a winner then WHY NOT RAMP UP PRODUCTION now
> instead of having everybody wait???  Also, if the staff that you have that
> visits the various "Ham-Conventions" and take MORE orders then are'nt you
> guys compounding the work-order process even MORE???
>
> Look! This is Ham-Radio and it's all about "instant gratification" and you
> should know that as a businessman!!! Until you have your production
> equalized more orders slow up production if you're not GEARED-UP TO HANDLE
> THEM!!!
>
> 73,
>
> Jim/nn6ee
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Re: [Elecraft] Filter width and cutting off CW

[Don Wilhelm]

Dave,

Just as a guess (I don't have either the 500 or 400 Hz filters) - do you 
have the correct filter offset entered into the K3 menu?  It certainly 
sounds like a conflict between the roofing filter centers and the DSP 
filter centers.


You have said that the filter center frequency matches your sidetone 
pitch, so that rules out a mis-setting of the SHIFT control.


I cannot duplicate your problem here, but then I am relying only on the 
DSP filters - I have only the 2.7 kHz filter installed..


73,
Don W3FPR

David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:

Thanks for all the responses - to answer the questions:

Yes I'm in CW mode
yes I've used Spot and shift shows an * to indicate its centred over 
the frequency
I've checked the filters and offsets, receive Filter Enables etc in 
Configuration etc.


the loss of signal occurs at 500Hz, that’s before the filter switch 
point at 400HZ
I have checked against RWM on 9.996 band it cuts of in the same way at 
500Hz


It appears that once I go down to 500HZ, the signal is greatly 
attenuated and I loose the side tone, regardless of mode, the 
frequency is attenuated at that point - I can just hear the 
transmission, but everything is very attenuated. I'm wondering if they 
made be a bad connection of a part of the board that only comes in 
below 550Hz.


When RWM is transmitting just a carrier, it gets cut off at 500Hz
  

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Honchos!!!

[S Sacco]

Jim/nn6ee -

Notwithstanding your interesting USE of CAPITALIZATION not to mention
!!

I'm sure they'll appreciate your insights regarding RAMPING UP PRODUCTION!!!

Honestly, I'm feeling exceptionally DUMB that I never thought of that
myself, especially after waiting eight months for mine.

I think that your SUGGESTION is THE first time it's BEEN aired on this
reflector!!!  IMAGINE  About SIX thousand list subscribers (at
least that's what Eric told me), and NOBODY ever suggested THAT!!!
UNTIL you!

Seriously!

NOT.

Also, pet-peeve time: it's "Ham radio", or perhaps "Ham Radio", but
never "Ham-Radio".

Regards,

Steve/nn4x
EL98jh



On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 6:06 PM, JIM DAVIS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm very interested in purchasing one of your NEW K3s but what I have a hard
> time understanding is about the production "lag-time" (4mo. now?") If you
> guys KNOW that you've got a winner then WHY NOT RAMP UP PRODUCTION now
> instead of having everybody wait???  Also, if the staff that you have that
> visits the various "Ham-Conventions" and take MORE orders then are'nt you
> guys compounding the work-order process even MORE???
>
> Look! This is Ham-Radio and it's all about "instant gratification" and you
> should know that as a businessman!!! Until you have your production
> equalized more orders slow up production if you're not GEARED-UP TO HANDLE
> THEM!!!
>
> 73,
>
> Jim/nn6ee
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RE: [Elecraft] KRX3 status

[Don Nesbitt]

Have not received mine nor have I had any indication that it would be
shipped soon.  It was ordered with my original order on April 27, 2007 so it
ought to be early in the first batch!  So far - nada Gregg. 73 -- Don N4HH

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Are the KRX3s shipping? The website indicates that shipments are to begin on
5/12

Gregg

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RE: [Elecraft] Elecraft Honchos!!!

[Gary Hvizdak]

At 1806 EDT on Tue 20 May 2008 Jim Davis (NN6EE) wrote ...

... This is Ham-Radio and it's all about "instant gratification" and you 
should know that ...

--

Hi Jim,

Yes, Elecraft could raise the price of the K3, and/or lower its quality,

and be shipping K3s by the boat load.  However, other companies already 
control that niche and Elecraft chooses not to compete with them.

73,
Gary  KI4GGX
(not an Elecraft honcho)

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[Elecraft] Elecraft Honchos!!!

[Don Rasmussen]

Some explanation - Jim, from my experiences.

I recently sold three K3/100's that I had pre-ordered
back in November.

I sold two of them over a period of three days to
prospective K3 buyers that had been on the fence, for
what money I had in them. The other one went at
auction and had 3 or 4 bids. 

I've offered use transceivers for sale that produced
twice the number of offers on the first day. !

Always remember - hams are cheap. 

Sure, you hear about the guys that pay $11K for a
radio but in general hams avoid retail like the
plague!!!

And when you can get a new IC718 for $550, well it's a
very tough game in the transceiver biz. 

Those that buy a K3 or a K(n) for that matter,
generally seem to know what they are getting and don't
mind to wait for theirs to be custom produced. 

They may in fact, prefer that. 

Cudos to Eric for his business sense. With hindsight
after having units on hand for immediate sale, he's
very much on the money. 

That should keep him here to support product for a
good long time. ;-)

[Elecraft] Elecraft Honchos!!!
JIM DAVIS nn6ee at astound.net 
Tue May 20 18:06:31 EDT 2008 

Previous message: [Elecraft] K3 - love and choices -
in cars and radios 


I'm very interested in purchasing one of your NEW K3s
but what I have a hard time understanding is 
about the production "lag-time" (4mo. now?") If you
guys KNOW that you've got a winner then WHY 
NOT RAMP UP PRODUCTION now instead of having everybody
wait???  Also, if the staff that you have 
that visits the various "Ham-Conventions" and take
MORE orders then are'nt you guys compounding 
the work-order process even MORE???

Look! This is Ham-Radio and it's all about "instant
gratification" and you should know that as a 
businessman!!! Until you have your production
equalized more orders slow up production if you're 
not GEARED-UP TO HANDLE THEM!!!

73,

Jim/nn6ee


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[Elecraft] KRX3 status

[Gregg W6IZT]

Are the KRX3s shipping? The website indicates that shipments are to begin on
5/12

Gregg

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[Elecraft] Elecraft Honchos!!!

[JIM DAVIS]

I'm very interested in purchasing one of your NEW K3s but what I have a hard time understanding is 
about the production "lag-time" (4mo. now?") If you guys KNOW that you've got a winner then WHY 
NOT RAMP UP PRODUCTION now instead of having everybody wait???  Also, if the staff that you have 
that visits the various "Ham-Conventions" and take MORE orders then are'nt you guys compounding 
the work-order process even MORE???


Look! This is Ham-Radio and it's all about "instant gratification" and you should know that as a 
businessman!!! Until you have your production equalized more orders slow up production if you're 
not GEARED-UP TO HANDLE THEM!!!


73,

Jim/nn6ee
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[Elecraft] K3 - love and choices - in cars and radios

[Don Rasmussen]

TS520, TS130, TS440, TS450, TS480, Drake C, Drake B,
TR4C, IC751a, IC728, IC735, IC756Pro, FT101, FT890AT,
FT902DM, OMNI C, OMNI VI+, Corsair II, Argo V etc.
etc. Collins 75S3a+b, AND K2's. I cherished some of
these sets for years and years. Many radios I've had
and forgotten about. Make whatever analogy to cars you
want - the K3 is radio that transcended this entire
group --all of them -- over time and in less money in
2008 dollars than the TS520 cost me in 1975.

$2900 in 1975 for a $629 TS520, double that for a new
Drake C line -without- cw filter. Want a noise
blanker?  $270.48 (2008 dollars) - extra!

The offshore brands invented the practice of tossing
them in for free, but don't tell anyone, they don't
work. ;-) ;-)

It's hard for me to see where K3 correlates with any
year VW bug, I'd lean towards Lyle's analogy of the
Prius. ;-)


[Elecraft] love and choices - in cars and radios
Charles Harpole k4vud at hotmail.com 
Tue May 20 13:18:00 EDT 2008 

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The discussion about which rig is best is ultimately
funny.  I remember guys who would almost fight anyone
who would not acknowledge the idea that the early VW
bugs were vastly superior to American iron (and I am
sure more than several guys reading this are ready to
pound out their support of their little friend VW) or
any other discussions about issues that resolve mostly
to matters of taste and love.  

One can read about great specs and that makes us feel
good (or not), but virtually every ham lacks the
skill, experience, and physical performance (ears) to
actually hear the difference between high specs and
the highest specs.  And I am sure there are dozens of
guys reading this who will swear they are in the tiny
minority who ACTUALLY can hear the difference... skip
telling me this; I already know what u r gonna say.  I
have already been around real audiophiles in the
editing/mixing suites of movie studios who DO hear a
lot.  But, most people are not at this level.

In my limited ability, I have only hrd one example of
an obvious and real and discernable improvement in a
rig was after I put the roofing filter into my Mark 5.
 That I could hear, but otherwise, nada.

For those thinking of getting a new radio, I advise
modestly for the choice be made based on one's likes,
one's tastes, and the one that makes one feel better
and the radio that invites especially you to love it. 
>From this kind of choice comes satisfaction.  Have
fun.  

K3... VW bug
ORION... Delorean or Edsel
FT-2000... Toyota Camery
FT-9000... Lexus
IC-756Pro3... Audi
TS-2000 Ford Fairlane
IC-7800... Mercedes 350 sport.
Helberling (sp?)...  Rolls Silver Shadow


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Re: [Elecraft] Filter width and cutting off CW

[David Ferrington, M0XDF]

Thanks for all the responses - to answer the questions:

Yes I'm in CW mode
yes I've used Spot and shift shows an * to indicate its centred over  
the frequency
I've checked the filters and offsets, receive Filter Enables etc in  
Configuration etc.


the loss of signal occurs at 500Hz, that’s before the filter switch  
point at 400HZ
I have checked against RWM on 9.996 band it cuts of in the same way at  
500Hz


It appears that once I go down to 500HZ, the signal is greatly  
attenuated and I loose the side tone, regardless of mode, the  
frequency is attenuated at that point - I can just hear the  
transmission, but everything is very attenuated. I'm wondering if they  
made be a bad connection of a part of the board that only comes in  
below 550Hz.


When RWM is transmitting just a carrier, it gets cut off at 500Hz
--
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intelligence!


On 20 May 2008, at 21:46, Dave G4AON wrote:


Hello David

I don't know what you are doing wrong, my K3 works just fine right  
down to "50 Hz". I am using the latest firmware, 6 KHz, 2.8 KHz and  
400 Hz filters. You could check on a plain carrier too.


Your choice of a 500 Hz pitch works, but I don't know of anyone who  
normally uses such a low pitch. I mostly use 700 Hz but have checked  
at 500 and it worked just as well.


Have you somehow got a filter incorrectly set with an offset instead  
of 0 Hz (only the cheaper 5 pole filters have an offset, 8 poles are  
zero Hz)? Also, did the loss of signal occur when the XFIL display  
showed a change of roofing filter, as the filter should only change  
when you go down to 400 Hz? Another thing, is your centre frequency  
the same as your chosen pitch (indicated by a  * against the shift),  
if your filter isn't centred you would lose the audio.


73 Dave, G4AON


I'm just finally getting into hunting for CW on the bands to listen
to, to help improve my on-air listening - I can read about 7WPM (20
char speed) and trying to find signals with my K3.
I can hear a few around on 40m with the filter set to 1.8KHz, but when
I start to reduce the filter width down, I loose it at 500Hz - I can
hear very well at 550Hz, but drop the 50Hz and it disappears - this is
after doing an auto spot.

Tuning around the frequency, I still can't find it.
Is this a combination of filter width and my sidetone pitch, which is
set to 500Hz?

I have latest beta f/w, a 400Hz, 1.8KHz, 2.8KHz and 6kHz filters
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174


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[Elecraft] [K3] Memory Question

[Corboy-Poteet]

I did not see anything on this in the User Man (but the eyes are old).
Is there a way to clear a "general-purpose" memory entry?  I realize
that having data in a g-p mem slot is not going to cause bad things to
happen. However, being anal retentive, I would like to completely
clear a mem entry which no longer has any meaning (rather than try to
remember why I made the entry).

Mike   W5FTD


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Re: [Elecraft] Lead time

[nz0t]

Hmmm, I ordered my K3 last month.  Guess I better start selling stuff to pay
for it!

Eric - WA6HHQ wrote:
> 
> Hi Jim,
> 
> The lead time on the web site is for new orders, not for ones placed 4-5 
> months ago (which is being tracked by everyone so diligently ;-) .
> 
> We are continually ramping up our production rate on a weekly basis. We 
> are definitely producing now at a sustained rate higher than we were 3-4 
> months ago, and our plans in place are for this to increase another 
> 50-75% over the summer.
> 
> 73, Eric
> ---
> 
> Jim Cox wrote:
>> I figure about 5 months (certainly not 4 as advertised on the web site).
>>
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[Elecraft] Filter width and cutting off CW

[David Ferrington, M0XDF]

I'm just finally getting into hunting for CW on the bands to listen  
to, to help improve my on-air listening - I can read about 7WPM (20  
char speed) and trying to find signals with my K3.
I can hear a few around on 40m with the filter set to 1.8KHz, but when  
I start to reduce the filter width down, I loose it at 500Hz - I can  
hear very well at 550Hz, but drop the 50Hz and it disappears - this is  
after doing an auto spot.


Tuning around the frequency, I still can't find it.
Is this a combination of filter width and my sidetone pitch, which is  
set to 500Hz?


I have latest beta f/w, a 400Hz, 1.8KHz, 2.8KHz and 6kHz filters
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174


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For if you put on more clothes as the cold increases, it will have no  
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So in like manner you must grow in patience when you meet with great  
wrongs,

and they will then be powerless to vex your mind.
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Re: [Elecraft] Release of 1.96/1.73?

[Lee Buller]

I thought that it was beta and not ready for prime time.  Is that true or will 
it come out so you can use the automatic downloader programor do you have 
to jump through all the FTP hoops now?  I am taking the approach of waiting

Lee - K0WA 

In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply.  If you don't 
have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it.  If you can't find 
any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense.  Is 
Common Sense divine?
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[Elecraft] Release of 1.96/1.73?

[Lee Buller]

Is there a time frame for the general release of 1.96 and 1.73 yet?

Lee - K0WA



In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply.  If you don't 
have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it.  If you can't find 
any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense.  Is 
Common Sense divine?
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: used listing (10 watt)

[NS5U/1 Jim]

Another K3 on the used market ...(snip)
Why would someone *sell* one, and in this instance, for the second time?
Oh, well, it's a great opportunity for somebody..(snip)




Simply a matter of money gentlemen no mystery.  Something has come up and I
need the money more than the incredible radio.  I will obtain another one
when my affairs are more in order.  There simply is no better receiver
available at any price.  But for the moment I can't afford it.

tnx 73 de NS5U/1

Jim
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[Elecraft] Lead time

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

Hi Jim,

The lead time on the web site is for new orders, not for ones placed 4-5 
months ago (which is being tracked by everyone so diligently ;-) .


We are continually ramping up our production rate on a weekly basis. We 
are definitely producing now at a sustained rate higher than we were 3-4 
months ago, and our plans in place are for this to increase another 
50-75% over the summer.


73, Eric
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I figure about 5 months (certainly not 4 as advertised on the web site).


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Re: [Elecraft] love and choices

[Bill W4ZV]

HS0ZCW wrote:
> 
> 
> In my limited ability, I have only hrd one example of an obvious and real
> and discernable improvement in a rig was after I put the roofing filter
> into my Mark 5.  That I could hear, but otherwise, nada.
> 

Now I understand why HS0ZCW was as deaf as a stone on 80m long path!  :-)

73,  Bill  W4ZV

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RE: [Elecraft] OT: THP 2.5KW amp

[Jim]

Don't forget the fan usually comes on when you transmit on the Solid State
stuff.

Jim

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL
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Subject: [Elecraft] OT: THP 2.5KW amp

Lee:

Interesting that you thought that the fan was quiet.  I couldn't hear
it either, but then again, I would be hard pressed to find a noisier
place than inside the arena at Dayton.

I say "interesting" because I asked about fan noise.  The THP person
there (some American guy, hence language no issue) asked me what kind
of operating I do and I replied, "Contesting."  He was glum and said
and said that the fan would be far too noisy for me.  Honesty is good!

However, in this month's QST is a review of another THP amp by K1RO
(another contester) and his review also said "quiet fan."  Of course,
it was a different amp, and he did not use it during a contest, but
one might figure that the fan is the fan. At least they kinda look the
same!  :-)

I went back the next day (he didn't recognize me) and I asked if they
were working on a quieter fan, and he said that they are indeed
working on it.  YMMV.

de Doug KR2Q
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Re: [Elecraft] Wiring Headphones for K3

[Don Wilhelm]

Dave,

I am not certain if you received a response or not - I did not see one 
on the reflector.
Convention has the left channel on the tip and right on the ring - the 
sleeve is ground.
You can always wire in a DPDT switch to swap if you want to do that - As 
I recall, one of the Heil headsets has a reversing switch.


73,
Don W3FPR.

David and Dianne on Comcast wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I'm in the process of wiring a stereo jack onto old faithful monoral 
headphones for use on the K3. (The phones are not reversible when worn).


When the sub receiver arrives, I want the main receiver in the left 
channel and the sub receiver in the right channel.


For K3 use with a stereo plug, is the left channel on the jack tip or 
the jack sleeve?


I could not find any information in the owners or assembly manuals on 
this. It may be in there but I cold not find it.


Please no speculation as I need to know for certain so I don't have to 
do this over again.


Reply on or off the reflector.

Thanks in advance.

73 de N1LQ-Dave
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[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net - dual band / dual hour proposal

[KM5Q]

SSB Nets were off to a good start through the winter, but with  
seasonal shift, activity has faded on both the 20m and 40m nets. Last  
night for example, 40 was noisy and short, but 20 was jumping with 3- 
ways all over the USA and down to ZL, especially later in the evening.


I suggest we schedule two bands at once. With my K3/ATU, I can switch  
between 40 and 20m net frequencies with two taps of either memory or  
band switch. Some of us have two rigs and can also do it with ease.  
Let's use our capabilities (especially when sub-RX arrives).


Time is the next issue. Best time now is when nearly all USA is dark  
-- that's hard for some Easterners on a "school night". So let's set  
TWO check-in times. Two times? Two bands? Numerous solid 2-way QSOs  
are more satisfying than 20 minutes spent checking in 10 guys at a bad  
time.


So here's my proposal:
MONDAY & THURSDAY USA-NIGHTS / 0130 & 0230 UTC
(In Europe that's Tuesday and Friday mornings)
FREQUENCIES:   7.192* MHz and 14.316

* 7.190 has been busy. 7.192 is more clear but maybe there's a better  
hole. Let's observe.

   14.316 at night? Also subject to observation.

The Sunday net has also been unresponsive lately. Let's take that up  
next.


Thanks!
Windy KM5Q
Santa Fe, NM
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[Elecraft] love and choices

[Charles Harpole]

The discussion about which rig is best is ultimately funny.  I remember guys 
who would almost fight anyone who would not acknowledge the idea that the early 
VW bugs were vastly superior to American iron (and I am sure more than several 
guys reading this are ready to pound out their support of their little friend 
VW) or any other discussions about issues that resolve mostly to matters of 
taste and love.  

One can read about great specs and that makes us feel good (or not), but 
virtually every ham lacks the skill, experience, and physical performance 
(ears) to actually hear the difference between high specs and the highest 
specs.  And I am sure there are dozens of guys reading this who will swear they 
are in the tiny minority who ACTUALLY can hear the difference... skip telling 
me this; I already know what u r gonna say.  I have already been around real 
audiophiles in the editing/mixing suites of movie studios who DO hear a lot.  
But, most people are not at this level.

In my limited ability, I have only hrd one example of an obvious and real and 
discernable improvement in a rig was after I put the roofing filter into my 
Mark 5.  That I could hear, but otherwise, nada.

For those thinking of getting a new radio, I advise modestly for the choice be 
made based on one's likes, one's tastes, and the one that makes one feel better 
and the radio that invites especially you to love it.  From this kind of choice 
comes satisfaction.  Have fun.  

K3... VW bug
ORION... Delorean or Edsel
FT-2000... Toyota Camery
FT-9000... Lexus
IC-756Pro3... Audi
TS-2000 Ford Fairlane
IC-7800... Mercedes 350 sport.
Helberling (sp?)...  Rolls Silver Shadow

73,


Charles Harpole
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[Elecraft] K2 FS

[Rick Dettinger]

My K3 is keeping me busy so my K2 is idle.  So its time to sell.
K2 SN 1653 with
KAT2
KAF2
KNB2
K160 RX
All manuals

This K2 is set up for CW only at present.  I did most Rev. "B"  
upgrades that pertains  to QRP CW operating.  Everything works as per  
Elecraft specs. except for very low output on 160 M. where  I only get  
about one half watt output power.  Receive seems to work well on 160  
M.  I have worked several states QRPp on this band but have not done  
any troubleshooting.  The K2 appears to be in like new condition with  
no dings or scratches and has only been used at home.  Non smoking,  
both the rig and the operator.  I will sell for $500. including UPS  
ground packing and shipping to CONUS.

Thanks and 73
Rick Dettinger
K7MW
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RE: [Elecraft] K3: used listing (10 watt)

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

Most likely to make a nice profit as they are very much in demand right now.
It's actually pretty brilliant, wait until after Dayton after thousands of
hams have seen the product and dream about owning one, then list it on
QTH.com and let the offers roll in.

Either that, or he needs gas money. :-)

73 Matt
W5LL



I have known some Hams who do this routinely. 

Their interest in is putting their hands on most of the new rigs that come
on the market more than searching for a particular rig. Once in a while they
stumble across something they keep, but that's not the objective. What they
really seem to enjoy is being able to say "Oh yes, I had one of those..."
and go on to discuss their experience with it. Sort of "bragging rights" in
a way.  

Some are those for whom a US$5,000 or $10,000 outlay requires no more
thought that most of us might put into deciding to have a latte or stop at
the Pub for a pint. 

For others, it's simply how they spend money, whether it represents
something significant in their budget or not. After all, by putting the gear
on the market after playing with it for a while they recover most of their
money and possibly even turn a profit on an especially popular rig. 

I know what you're thinking. Hams must be a strange bunch. Good insight!
Would you believe that some of us actually build a little rig that runs no
more than five watts and hang around on the shortwave bands sending Morse
when we could be yakking on the phone or pounding out e-mails? 

Now what's the sense in that? 

None, of course, at first glance. It's simply doing what interests us. And
doing that is exactly how we create interesting and exciting lives. 

Ron AC7AC

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[Elecraft] Shipping status DVR?

[David F. Reed]

I am curious as to when the Digital Voice recorder will be shipping; the 
status page says "after the KRX3".


I thought the KRX3 was shipping already (?) and I am waiting for my k3 
to ship until all the options I ordered are available...


73 de Dave, W5SV
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[Elecraft] K3 - KRX3 (2nd Receiver Option) Shipping Status??

[W6NEK]

Hello Elecraft,
Can you please provide an update on the shipping status of the KRX3??

Based on the current website info, delivery must be very close.

Any info greatly appreciated,
Frank - W6NEK

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Re: [Elecraft] The K3 in comprison to the Big Guns

[Jim Miller]

Here's one.  http://www.sherweng.com/table.html

73, Jim

- Original Message - 
From: "Robert Allbright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 7:16 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] The K3 in comprison to the Big Guns


> Dave, W7AQK
> 
> you said
> 
> I haven't studied the 7700's performance
> ratings, but apparently they are not nearly as good as the K3.
> 
> Where did you get this info I wonder? do you have one?
> 
> Well, we shall see when the reviews are published, apparently the RSGB
> review on the 7700 is due June.
> I think that the K3 will hard pressed to beat the 7700 in usability  
> and performance!
> I've had one for several weeks now and am looking forward to the  
> review in a few days time.
> 
> 73 Rob G3RCE
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: used listing (10 watt)

[Jim Cox]

Yes, makes you wonder why it has been sold twice
I am sure it will sell again with no trouble as the wait for a K3 is sure 
not decreasing these days.   I figure about 5 months (certainly not 4 as 
advertised on the web site).

The lack of availability is one reason the Icom 7700 is selling so well.
Jim K4JAF


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Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 7:22 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3: used listing (10 watt)



Another K3 on the used market ...

http://swap.qth.com/search-results.php?keywords=666439&fieldtosearch=ListingNo

It strikes me as odd to see such listings, personally.
This is a superlative radio, and one that's backordered for months.
Indeed, I am awaiting my own Katiegram in another 4 or 5 weeks.

Why would someone *sell* one, and in this instance, for the second time?
Oh, well, it's a great opportunity for somebody.

Steve KZ1X/4
owner of the World's Most Experienced Elecraft
(and, celebrating my ninth straight year on this reflector)



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Re: [Elecraft] K3: bandscope etc etc

[S Sacco]

Julian -

Just food for thought

Everything with a computer has an "operating system" of some sort...

73,
Steve




On 5/20/08, G4ILO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> A. LaMont  Shultes wrote:
> >
> > My vote would be for a dedicated PC running Linux or Windows inside the
> > K3.
> >
> Eeek, no!! What on earth would you want to do inside a radio that requires
> an operating system, with its attendant need for patches and updates,
> susceptibility to viruses etc? Not to mention all the noise a computer
> generates.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] The K3 in comprison to the Big Guns

[David Yarnes]

Nope, don't have one.  It would be nice though!  As far as I know there 
aren't any detailed performance reviews published yet, but several owners 
have noted that the RX is apparently the same basic design as the 7800. 
Also, the Icom reps at Dayton indicated that it was essentially the same 
receiver.  So, close in performance will not apparently match the K3.  But 
that doesn't mean it isn't a great radio, and as you indicate, the operating 
conveniences and features make it something to lust for.  As for ergonomics, 
that's always something that I find hard to compare in some radios.  To me, 
good ergonomics means convenience.  It may mean something entirely different 
to others.  There's plenty to like with the Icoms, but I find the K3 to be 
convenient as well.  Now there are more buttons on the Icoms, and that 
suggests more features.  But conveniently using the features available on 
the K3 is very good in my view.  I think the best example of bad ergonomics 
is exhibited by Yaesu, and to some degree, Ten-Tec.  Yaesu's menus are still 
complex and difficult to manipulate.  The Icom rep was having fun comparing 
the 7700 to Yaesu's big rigs for ease of operation.  Ten-Tec uses a 
multi-pot extensively which I don't care much for.  That's possibly my 
biggest gripe about my Orion II.  Icom however, makes superb use of the 
bandscope and large display in utilizing many of the available features. 
More than anything else I think that's the crux of why Icom users are 
fanatics about Icom radios.  For example, want to see a waterfall display? 
Just push this button here!  Filter settings can be brought up on the 
screen, and adjusted easily.  You can quickly return to the default setting 
by pushing the default button.  But the K3 sort of does the same thing, 
although not displayed as elaborately on its screen.  And to return to the 
"default" position, you simply push the "shift" knob and it's done.  But 
like I said, more buttons on the 7700 means more features on that radio, and 
the display does a beautiful job of presenting each feature.  Now, once the 
2nd receivers for the K3 are ready to ship, that may shift the balance more 
towards the K3 for lots of people.  I still think the K3 will very possibly 
be the radio of choice for contesters and DXers.  And I don't see a 7700 
being the rig of choice over a K3 for Field Day either.  But certainly there 
will be a great many who will find the 7700 to be a better fit for their 
operating preferences.  It's a beautiful radio!  And you have to want that 
2nd RX pretty darn bad to spend the extra money to get the 7800.


Dave W7AQK



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Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 5:16 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] The K3 in comprison to the Big Guns



Dave, W7AQK

you said

I haven't studied the 7700's performance
ratings, but apparently they are not nearly as good as the K3.

Where did you get this info I wonder? do you have one?

Well, we shall see when the reviews are published, apparently the RSGB
review on the 7700 is due June.
I think that the K3 will hard pressed to beat the 7700 in usability  and 
performance!
I've had one for several weeks now and am looking forward to the  review 
in a few days time.


73 Rob G3RCE



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 noise-blanker

[Barry N1EU]

info4mjs wrote:
> 
> I had both the K3 and Orion 2 in my shack. . .  Now, when W1AW is on the
> air (as well as some other QRO stations in my areaI live about 5 miles
> from W1AW) and contributes to the noise with IMD products, the O2 works
> better.  The O2 stayed and the K3 left.
> 
Hmmm . . .  I happen to have recently read WA1SEO's Orion2 review on eham. 
He reported spending just "a couple of hours behind a K3"  and he was a
fairly new owner of the Orion2 at that time.  I'm sure Mike heard what he
heard, but his report is clearly anecdotal, rather than definitive.

I don't understand K3 bashing after just a couple of hours of use.  To say
the Orion(2) is more refined and more finished than the K3 is certainly a
stretch in my eyes, after 4.5 years on the Orion.  

All that being said, I actually think they're both very good radios.  

73,
Barry N1EU

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[Elecraft] OT: THP 2.5KW amp

[DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL]

Lee:

Interesting that you thought that the fan was quiet.  I couldn't hear
it either, but then again, I would be hard pressed to find a noisier
place than inside the arena at Dayton.

I say "interesting" because I asked about fan noise.  The THP person
there (some American guy, hence language no issue) asked me what kind
of operating I do and I replied, "Contesting."  He was glum and said
and said that the fan would be far too noisy for me.  Honesty is good!

However, in this month's QST is a review of another THP amp by K1RO
(another contester) and his review also said "quiet fan."  Of course,
it was a different amp, and he did not use it during a contest, but
one might figure that the fan is the fan. At least they kinda look the
same!  :-)

I went back the next day (he didn't recognize me) and I asked if they
were working on a quieter fan, and he said that they are indeed
working on it.  YMMV.

de Doug KR2Q
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RE: [Elecraft] The K3 in comprison to the Big Guns

[Jim]

The spec's come into play on CW but phone operators, no. Many who are mainly
phone operators that I talked to that have operated or owned the Orion,
Orion II & K-3's (And I own or have owned all three) with the superior
spec's tend to gravitate back to the rig they are most comfortable
operating. In many cases it comes down to ease of operation and in some
cases pure looks. 

Jim

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Subject: [Elecraft] The K3 in comprison to the Big Guns

Dave, W7AQK

you said

I haven't studied the 7700's performance
ratings, but apparently they are not nearly as good as the K3.

Where did you get this info I wonder? do you have one?

Well, we shall see when the reviews are published, apparently the RSGB
review on the 7700 is due June.
I think that the K3 will hard pressed to beat the 7700 in usability  
and performance!
I've had one for several weeks now and am looking forward to the  
review in a few days time.

73 Rob G3RCE



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[Elecraft] K3 Sn 933

[Peter Howson]

Another for the record keepers.

Serial No 933
Ordered: December 12th 07
Katie gram: May 7th 08
Shipped: May 15th 08
Delivered May 19th 08

Building underway.

73

Peter
GM8GAX




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[Elecraft] Dayton - Interesting Stuff - Maybe OT

[Lee Buller]

Here are some things that I saw that were pretty cool.

The Tokyo High Power 2.5 KW Transistor amp.  Running some 1900 watts output to 
a dummy load.  Interestingly, the unit does not have a regulated power supply 
and shows a very large voltage drop50 to 25 volts on key down.  No fan 
noise although one was running.  Small too compared to a tube amp.  Price is 
rather up there, but if you compared it to an Alpha...well...I think it would 
be even.

SDR Radio.  Wow.  The HPSDR group was there showing their system.  So was a lot 
of others, Flex, Perseus, and a some others I did not get to look at.  The SDR 
forum was packed.  Had some good information about SDR.  I am sure these people 
have been there before, but sure grabbed my attention this time.  Interesting 
technology.  I think that to get into this type of technology right now you 
would need to know some programming and electronics.

Emtron Amps.  Now don't get me wrong, but I've been looking at amps for some 
time now and these look good.  What I have been discovering is that the Russian 
tubes are getting scarce because of production problems and Eimac tubes are 
getting up there in price.  I asked the guys where they are sourcing the tubes, 
and they said the Chinese are producing knock-offs of the Russian tubes which 
are knock-offs of Eimac tubes.  So, they said they could buy Chinese (aka 
Russian, aka Eimac) tubes all day long.

Then the high point, was the K3 and the second receiver.  That was cool to see 
that coming along.

Lee - K0WA





In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply.  If you don't 
have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it.  If you can't find 
any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense.  Is 
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Re: Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RTTY filter for K3

[Art]

Al
Not at all, I'm sure you've helped more than just me! Thanks for the info.

73 Art

Alan Bloom wrote:

"Nyquist" in this context does not refer to the Nyquist criterion (i.e.
that the sample rate must be more than twice the highest signal
frequency).  It just means a filter that has no inter-symbol
interference at a certain symbol rate (baud rate).

It turns out that if you start with completely unfiltered symbols (a
series of infinitely-narrow impulses, one per symbol) a Nyquist filter
has the property that the frequency response is anti-symmetrical around
1/2 the symbol rate.  One example of a Nyquist filter is a raised-cosine
filter.  The frequency response (plotted on a linear, not dB scale) is
1.0 from zero Hz up to (1-alpha) * symbol_rate/2 and is zero for all
frequencies above (1+alpha) * symbol_rate/2.  Between 1-alpha and
1+alpha, the frequency response has the shape of a raised cosine,
smoothly going from 1.0 to 0.0.  If you plot that on graph paper, you
can see that the frequency response is anti-symmetrical about
symbol_rate/2.  (Alpha is a design parameter - the smaller the alpha the
sharper the cutoff.)

It is much easier to make a Nyquist filter digitally than with analog
components, but you could approximate one with coils and capacitors. 
Actually, even the digital filter is an approximation since it

theoretically has to have an impulse response that extends from
-infinity to +infinity.

That's probably more than you wanted to know.  :=)

Al N1AL


On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 18:35, Art wrote:
I must be confused by this filter discussion. Is not a Nyquist filter by 
its very definition a digital filter? Not directly comparable to the 
crystal filters in the K3 or any other rig.


I would have supposed a Nyquist filter is one that samples at least 
twice per cycle at the highest observed frequency.


As to what comes out of crystal filters, i.e. rtty tones, different 
discussion. If I have the processing chain figured correctly crystal 
filter output is then sampled by the audio card.


I'm not a filter designer. Just asking based on previous experiences.

73 Art
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: bandscope etc etc

[G4ILO]

A. LaMont  Shultes wrote:
> 
> My vote would be for a dedicated PC running Linux or Windows inside the
> K3.
> 
Eeek, no!! What on earth would you want to do inside a radio that requires
an operating system, with its attendant need for patches and updates,
susceptibility to viruses etc? Not to mention all the noise a computer
generates.

-
Julian, G4ILO  K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392
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[Elecraft] New K1 FS

[Brent Sutphin]

I have a brand new Elecraft K1 that I have just completed for sale.  The 
radio works perfectly and meets all specifications.  It is new, serial 
number is 02528.  It has the backlight option installed and comes with the 
manual and connectors for the power cord and key.


I have been building kits for over thirty years and have built several 
Elecraft kits.  So if you want to experience the fun of QRP the K1 is a 
great rig.  I enjoy building them.


Price for the radio is $400 plus shipping. I will accept PayPal but prefer 
USPS Money Order.


Thanks
Brent  WB4X

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Re: [Elecraft] Help with cheap headset and K2

[Daniel Schlieper]

Hi Werner,

maybe you could use a cheap headset and  optimise the frequency response?

Here are some ideas about using cheap lightweight computer headsets:
http://www.qrpforum.de/thread.php?threadid=3068
(This discussion is in German).

73 Daniel M0ERA

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: used listing (10 watt)

[Matt Patterson]

Most likely to make a nice profit as they are very much in demand right
now.  It's actually pretty brilliant, wait until after Dayton after
thousands of hams have seen the product and dream about owning one, then
list it on QTH.com and let the offers roll in.

Either that, or he needs gas money. :-)

73 Matt
W5LL

On Tue, 2008-05-20 at 05:22 -0700, Steve Jackson wrote:
> Another K3 on the used market ...
> 
> http://swap.qth.com/search-results.php?keywords=666439&fieldtosearch=ListingNo
> 
> It strikes me as odd to see such listings, personally.  
> This is a superlative radio, and one that's backordered for months.
> Indeed, I am awaiting my own Katiegram in another 4 or 5 weeks.
> 
> Why would someone *sell* one, and in this instance, for the second time?
> Oh, well, it's a great opportunity for somebody.
> 
> Steve KZ1X/4
> owner of the World's Most Experienced Elecraft
> (and, celebrating my ninth straight year on this reflector)
> 
> 
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[Elecraft] K3: used listing (10 watt)

[Steve Jackson]

Another K3 on the used market ...

http://swap.qth.com/search-results.php?keywords=666439&fieldtosearch=ListingNo

It strikes me as odd to see such listings, personally.  
This is a superlative radio, and one that's backordered for months.
Indeed, I am awaiting my own Katiegram in another 4 or 5 weeks.

Why would someone *sell* one, and in this instance, for the second time?
Oh, well, it's a great opportunity for somebody.

Steve KZ1X/4
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(and, celebrating my ninth straight year on this reflector)


  
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[Elecraft] The K3 in comprison to the Big Guns

[Robert Allbright]

Dave, W7AQK

you said

I haven't studied the 7700's performance
ratings, but apparently they are not nearly as good as the K3.

Where did you get this info I wonder? do you have one?

Well, we shall see when the reviews are published, apparently the RSGB
review on the 7700 is due June.
I think that the K3 will hard pressed to beat the 7700 in usability  
and performance!
I've had one for several weeks now and am looking forward to the  
review in a few days time.


73 Rob G3RCE



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[Elecraft] It's Here (K3)

[David Robertson]

For all you record keepers.

Ordered: December 11th 07
Katie gram May 6th 08
Delivered May 20th 08

The building begins.

73

Dave KD1NA


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[Elecraft] K3 noise-blanker

[info4mjs]

Hi Jim,

I had both the K3 and Orion 2 in my shack.  We have several appliances that 
generate RFI and neighbors' devices that do, too.  Both the K3 and O2 seem to 
handle them and allow me to make my Q's.  Now, when W1AW is on the air (as well 
as some other QRO stations in my areaI live about 5 miles from W1AW) and 
contributes to the noise with IMD products, the O2 works better.  The O2 stayed 
and the K3 left.

Mike, WA1SEO
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[Elecraft] K3: bandscope etc etc

[Monty Shultes]

My vote would be for a dedicated PC running Linux or Windows inside the K3.
Looks like plenty of room on top of the second receiver.
Otherwise, someone has only one PC in the shack?  I have 3,
one running Echolink, one running APRS software, and the notebook
connected to my K3 and awaiting Larry's LP-PAN.
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Re: [Elecraft] Interesting Stuff At Dayton

[David Ferrington, M0XDF]

Yes, that's what I'm hoping for, for one thing because I use a Mac  
(unless someone wants to come up with the appropiate OSX software?).


I rather think that was the direction Wayne was thinking in, but have  
no insight into this.
Perhaps a simple small display in a K3 sized cabinet, you could get a  
reasonable sized display in that, around the same size as the Icom/ 
Yaesu etc. with the possibility of plugging in a larger LCD if you so  
desired.



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On 19 May 2008, at 09:39, G4ILO wrote:

What I would like to see is an external bandscope that does not  
require a
computer. Either it would be completely self contained, or it would  
use an
inexpensive portable LCD TV for its display. Perhaps Elecraft will  
come up

with something like this in the future?


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[Elecraft] K3 noise reduction

[Dave Martin]

On 5/20/08, Charles Harpole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  I have both and they are about the same. Sometimes one beats the other or 
> the reverse.  Orion is mostly better in NR for phone and K3 is mostly better 
> for CW.  If one listens only to the Elecrafters Lovers Club, one will get a 
> skewed view of rigs similar to the old debate from VW car owners who 
> loved their little bugs well beyond rationality and the facts.  I loved my 
> old Drakes like that, but now do not love any brand.
>
>
Yes, I'd hope for further improvement of the NR on phone.  Even if
it's not too effective I still nearly always have it on, but the radio
powers up with it off and blasts me with the increased audio.  It
seems like it would be nice if it powered up with the NR in the same
state it was before.  Is this a problem for anyone else?

Dave  W5DHM
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[Elecraft] Wanted: Late Model K2

[Dave White]

I would be interested in a K2 (10 watt) S/N 4100 or higher.  Options would 
be nice, but DSP is not required.  I can take one that needs work.  I'll pay 
a fair price.  Please respond off the reflector


Thanks

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[Elecraft] K3 any good?

[Ron Meiring]

Jim,

I have my second K3 now on order. Paid in advance in full.
I am very critical when it comes to radios. A good NB is a must for 
me otherwise I can't operate from my location.
As such Icom's are not an option. The TS850 with NB mods worked quite 
well. The K3 is everything you want, minus frequency scope.
Now that is no longer an issue since there is a band scope from Larry 
Phillps.

The NB has got analog blanking (conventional), and DSP NB mode.
Mostly one takes the noise out, some times both.
But the bottom line is the noise will disappear!!

Audio, I am pedantic. It doesn't create listening fatique.
Phase noise, hey I think this is top of the line.
Strong signals? No issue here in VK, but radio seems to be leading 
the pack.

To many nice options to list.
Ideal radio for transverters.(I am on VHF).

I am fully behind Elecraft. Happy with the K3.
It is the way to go. Had a few hams playing with it on the field day.
Guess what, they have put their order in as well

Please keep going boys. 

Go for it Jim!

Ron VK4KDD
 


>Gentlemen,
>
>I'm really interested in the K3 but what I'm asking of anyone on 
this reflector is how GOOD IS
>IT???
>I presently use a TT ORION which has a fantastic 9mhz. (hardware) 
blanker and has made all the
>difference in the world for my being able to copy weak signals, 
especially since our typical
>noise level here is S-9+ without it!!!  So short of my having to 
MOVE somewhere else (not feasible
>at this time!!!) has anyone COMPARED the i.f noise blankers of both 
the K3 and the TT Orion
>yet???
>
>Many thanks,
>
>Jim Davis/nn6ee
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Re: [Elecraft] RTTY filter for K3

[David Woolley]

Alan Bloom wrote:


It might be possible to use separate Nyquist filters and detectors for
the two tones, treating each one as if it were a separate on/off-keyed
signal.  If the transmitted signal is not filtered too heavily (i.e.
jumps quickly from one tone to the other) it seems like that should
work.


My impression was that that was the expected way of handling RTTY signals.

Transmitter circuits from 1968 simply switched between two oscillators 
to key the signal; they didn't try to make a smooth transition in the 
frequency domain.



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RE: [Elecraft] K3 noise-blanker

[Charles Harpole]

I have both and they are about the same. Sometimes one beats the other or the 
reverse.  Orion is mostly better in NR for phone and K3 is mostly better for 
CW.  If one listens only to the Elecrafters Lovers Club, one will get a skewed 
view of rigs similar to the old debate from VW car owners who loved their 
little bugs well beyond rationality and the facts.  I loved my old Drakes like 
that, but now do not love any brand.  gl 73,

Charles Harpole
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 noise-blanker
> Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 21:13:25 -0500
> CC: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>
> On Mon, 19 May 2008 13:17:48 -0700, you wrote:
>
>>Gentlemen,
>>
>>I'm really interested in the K3 but what I'm asking of anyone on this 
>>reflector is how GOOD IS
>>IT???
>>I presently use a TT ORION which has a fantastic 9mhz. (hardware) blanker and 
>>has made all the
>>difference in the world for my being able to copy weak signals, especially 
>>since our typical
>>noise level here is S-9+ without it!!! So short of my having to MOVE 
>>somewhere else (not feasible
>>at this time!!!) has anyone COMPARED the i.f noise blankers of both the K3 
>>and the TT Orion
>>yet???
>>
>>Many thanks,
>>
>>Jim Davis/nn6ee
>>"Newbie on the reflector!"
>>___
> [snip]
>
> I have an Orion II and K3 SN 806. The K3 is a much better rig overall than the
> Orion II and the noise blanker is very much better.
>
> Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq
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> Essential Liberty to
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> Safety deserve neither
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> of Pennsylvania.
>
> Support the entire Constitution, not
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