Re: [Elecraft] K3: A funny thing happened
And you are sure the antenna and coax connections are O.K.? Dave W7AQK - Original Message - From: "Fred Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Elecraft Reflector" Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 3:27 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: A funny thing happened Forgot one thing about the 30m VSWR situation: While the ATU was trying to tune the antenna, it started at something like 25-1. It got down to about 6-1 after quite a bit of noise, but all during this time my external wattmeter indicated zero power output. On all the other bands, it shows a low power while tuning. It also produced no power when I keyed it after tuning. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2008 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 08 - www.cqp.org ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...
Alan and All, I had nearly the same setup back in 1961-2 while stationed in Berlin, Germany. Built the Apache, which worked great, then added the SB-10 shortly thereafter. That was my first SSB venture, and you are right--the reports were good. Problem was though, the Apache was not the most stable transmitter ever designed! I had an annoying drift problem, which really gets accentuated on SSB. But Heathkit readily attributed it to a design flaw on their part, and sent me different capacitors to use (temp. compensating). Got the Apache settled down sufficiently (but not 100%), and life was good! Kind of a brick though, compared to my 8 pound K3! Dave W7AQK - Original Message - From: "Alan Bloom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Bob Nielsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "elecraft List" Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 6:04 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing... Many (many, many) years ago my station consisted of a Heathkit Apache TX1 transmitter, Mohawk RX-1 receiver, and SB-10 SSB adapter. I figured that I had to switch or adjust a minimum of ---12--- controls to change bands. If I needed to change between LSB and USB, add two more for a total of 14. And that does not include switching antennas and changing the dial frequency if required (on both transmitter and receiver). That also does not include my 6 and 2 meter transverters. In those days I thought twice before deciding to change bands. :=) On the other hand, the SB-10 phasing-type SSB exciter had absolutely WONDERFUL-sounding audio. I got unsolicited compliments on nearly every QSO. Al N1AL P.S. The list as I recall it: TX-1: Bandswitch Tune/operate switch Driver tuning Driver gain Plate tuning Plate loading RX-1: Bandswitch Antenna trimmer SB-10: Bandswitch Carrier null #1 Carrier null #2 Tuning On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 13:33, Bob Nielsen wrote: You forgot to add changing the coils in the HRO receiver :^) Bob, N7XY On May 29, 2008, at 1:23 PM, Mark Bayern wrote: > Sure sounds easier than turning off the plate supply, opening the top > of the cabinet, changing the coil(s), closing it up, turning the HV on > again, then tuning the rig for the new band. > > Mark AD5SS > > > > On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 3:04 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> 5 presses? >> -- >> A good cook is like a sorceress who dispenses happiness. >> -Elsa Schiaparelli, fashion designer (1890-1973) >> >> On 29 May 2008, at 20:28, Dave G. wrote: >> >>> What's wrong with >>> "FREQ ENT" -> '1' -> '4' -> '.' -> 'ENTER' >>> ? >>> -- >>> Dave G. KK7SS >>> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA >>> "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time." >>> Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather' >>> >>> ___ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >>> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >>> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com >> >> ___ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com >> > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > Bob Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...
Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: I've often looked at modern components and realized how easy it'd be to homebrew a phasing exciter. As a 99.9% CW buff, I've not been highly I believe that most, if not all, DSP (i.e. both K3 type and PC type SDRs) SSB modulators are essentially digital version of the phasing design (although note that I am not an ESSB believer). (They might just be third method, but that is still a phasing design.) -- David Woolley Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. RFC1855 says there should be an address here, but, in a world of spam, that is no longer good advice, as archive address hiding may not work. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - ESSB Availability
Hi Joe. Yes, I am also awaiting this firmware update. I have not yet got my K3, but my hopes are that it will be ready soon. Right now I am also using the IC-756pro3, microphone are the TSM MT-57 dynamic, and I use the W2IHY equalizer into the rear ACC connector. I have also ordered a better microphone, the AV Leader STM-11 : http://www.avleader.com.tw/product_Studio%20Microphones.htm This one has a very flat frequency response and needs an equalizer to sound good. This one also needs +48V phantom power, I have the small LEEM PHW-22 phantom power supply. This one is cheap, and it has selectable +48V or +12V. This is what amateur radio is all about for some of us, not just getting a message thrue but making it sound as good as possible. Best regards LA4AMA Roar Joe Word wrote: > > Any update on when the ESSB function will be turned on in the > firmware? I am using the 2.7 filter with various dynamic microphones > and getting good audio reports, but not as good as I get from my Icom > 756 PRO III. Would like to try a little wider bandwidth (about 3.0) > and see if I can match the PRO. Will need the 6.0 filter of course. > > The various dynamic mics I am using have gotten excellent audio > reports using rigs like the Yaesu Mark IV, Kenwood TS-870 and etc. > > I have had three different people view my transmit bandwidth on their > spectrum scopes and confirmed that my 2.7 filter is in fact > transmitting at 2.7 bandwidth (not 2.9 as previous thought). > > > Joe N9VX > K3 #841 > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3---ESSB-Availability-tp17537003p17555896.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - RIT & XIT
I think RIT & XIT can be configured to stay over bands - but not positive -- Now, here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place. If you want to get somewhere else, you must run at least twice as fast as that! -Lewis Carroll, mathematician and writer (1832-1898) On 29 May 2008, at 18:21, Joe Word wrote: I wish RIT and XIT would stay on when changing bands or memory channels, it goes off when going to another band or memory channel. Anyone else have thoughts on this? Joe N9VX K3 #841 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2, K3 cases now with side pockets
Great! Are there any photos available, showing the 1- and 2 pocket design? Or outer dimensions? My interest is a carrying case for the K2, with one or two pockets (for a small mike, key and bundle of antenna wire). 73 - Kristinn, TF3KX Ken Kopp-3 wrote: > > I've had several requests for pockets on the K2 and > K3 cases and I'm pleased to tell you that they're now > available. > > They're large enough to hold the Elecraft hand mic in > one side and a key, power cord or other "stuff" in the > other. The pockets can be added to each side of the > case and have cover flaps secured by Velcro. The > pocket dimensions are 9" high and 6" wide and have > pleats for expansion. The cost is $15 each and yes, > I can make cases with only one pocket. (:-)) > > Thank you for the bandwidth, and > > 73! Rose Kopp - N7HKW >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K2%2C-K3-cases-now-with-side-pockets-tp17549934p17556647.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: band-bitch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Buy another radio that does everything you want. Of course, it hasn't been built yet. Here's an idea, start your own company and build "the perfect radio", but be ready for the incessant whining (like 5 year olds) which will issue forth from your customers because you didn't do it "their way". The fact that it's the best performing radio on the market doesn't matter a damn, "It won't let me do X" or "it won't let me do Y" is all you'll hear from the ingrates. What's the matter, just because you'd have to spend 3-4X the money to get your dedicated band changing keypad and anywhere near the performance shouldn't be a problem, should it? S Sacco wrote: | I don't want to depend on my computer. | | I don't want to have to repeatedly push an up/down button. | | I don't want to custom-program memories, and have to remember what's what. | | I want to directly go to the band I want with a dedicated keypad. | | I bought the K3 despite this shortcoming, so I accept it, just like I | accept that, for me, the radio is a bit too physically small, but that | doesn't mean I have to like it. It means only that I understand that | practically everything in life is a compromise. | | 73, | Steve NN4X | | P.S: It looks like Windows 7 is going to support touch screen input. | Imagine the interfaces that'll be possible THEN! We could create our | own K3 on a big touch screen monitor, and it could be HUGE, and maybe | I could even get my direct band-switching! | | Maybe I could write a UI that would make the K3 look like a 75A-4 or | something (but with a built-in band scope ;-) ). | | | On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:57 AM, DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |> My oh my. What is so hard about changing bands on the K3? |> |> You can use the band up/down button (which means you are no more than |> 5 pushes away from any band, probably less). Is it really important |> to change bands in less than 2 or 3 seconds? |> |> You can use direct keypad entry. Also under 5 seconds. |> |> You can use the memories in any of the various setups posted here. |> Any of them take just a couple seconds...some only 1 second. |> |> You can control the band from you computer (instant change). |> |> Even being a contester where time counts, I just can't see what is so |> urgent about a "band switch" keypad ala the other rigs. Is this |> really such a big deal? |> |> de Doug KR2Q |> ___ |> Elecraft mailing list |> Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net |> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. |> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): |> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft |> |> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm |> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |> | ___ | Elecraft mailing list | Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net | You must be a subscriber to post to the list. | Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): | http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft | | Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm | Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com | - -- R. Kevin Stover, ACØH -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIP+sG11jxjloa2wsRAvDYAJ9fGR1ZFFVa52mri1AeI6KekUeixQCbBHEe 0a8WeODQHxsJsSwobZq/W9o= =W007 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: band-bitch
Dear R. Kevin - I'm sorry, but where I say: "I bought the K3 despite this shortcoming, so I accept it, just like I | accept that, for me, the radio is a bit too physically small, but that | doesn't mean I have to like it. It means only that I understand that | practically everything in life is a compromise." R. Kevin, what part of that don't you understand, to justify the tone and content of your commentary? Looking forward to your reply, and hopefully, apology. 73, Steve NN4X On 5/30/08, R. Kevin Stover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Buy another radio that does everything you want. > > Of course, it hasn't been built yet. > > Here's an idea, start your own company and build "the perfect radio", > but be ready for the incessant whining (like 5 year olds) which will > issue forth from your customers because you didn't do it "their way". > The fact that it's the best performing radio on the market doesn't > matter a damn, "It won't let me do X" or "it won't let me do Y" > is all you'll hear from the ingrates. > > What's the matter, just because you'd have to spend 3-4X the money to > get your dedicated band changing keypad and anywhere near the > performance shouldn't be a problem, should it? > > S Sacco wrote: > | I don't want to depend on my computer. > | > | I don't want to have to repeatedly push an up/down button. > | > | I don't want to custom-program memories, and have to remember what's what. > | > | I want to directly go to the band I want with a dedicated keypad. > | > | I bought the K3 despite this shortcoming, so I accept it, just like I > | accept that, for me, the radio is a bit too physically small, but that > | doesn't mean I have to like it. It means only that I understand that > | practically everything in life is a compromise. > | > | 73, > | Steve NN4X > | > | P.S: It looks like Windows 7 is going to support touch screen input. > | Imagine the interfaces that'll be possible THEN! We could create our > | own K3 on a big touch screen monitor, and it could be HUGE, and maybe > | I could even get my direct band-switching! > | > | Maybe I could write a UI that would make the K3 look like a 75A-4 or > | something (but with a built-in band scope ;-) ). > | > | > | On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:57 AM, DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > |> My oh my. What is so hard about changing bands on the K3? > |> > |> You can use the band up/down button (which means you are no more than > |> 5 pushes away from any band, probably less). Is it really important > |> to change bands in less than 2 or 3 seconds? > |> > |> You can use direct keypad entry. Also under 5 seconds. > |> > |> You can use the memories in any of the various setups posted here. > |> Any of them take just a couple seconds...some only 1 second. > |> > |> You can control the band from you computer (instant change). > |> > |> Even being a contester where time counts, I just can't see what is so > |> urgent about a "band switch" keypad ala the other rigs. Is this > |> really such a big deal? > |> > |> de Doug KR2Q > |> ___ > |> Elecraft mailing list > |> Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > |> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > |> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > |> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > |> > |> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > |> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > |> > | ___ > | Elecraft mailing list > | Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > | You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > | Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > | http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > | > | Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > | Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > | > > - -- > R. Kevin Stover, ACØH > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFIP+sG11jxjloa2wsRAvDYAJ9fGR1ZFFVa52mri1AeI6KekUeixQCbBHEe > 0a8WeODQHxsJsSwobZq/W9o= > =W007 > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...
Don, Do you really want band *stacking* memories? A stacking memory is first-in, last out, so you have to drill down through the stack to get the one you want. That seems likea much worse situation than the normal band up/down switch which is a double ended stack. If you are referring to something different, then please do not call it a stack - the definition of a memory stack has been quite clear since the first days of microprocessors. 73, Don W3FPR Don Rasmussen wrote: I brought up the band changing issue early on with the guys, not because I just had to have it, but because it seemed that every transceiver these days that's big enough to have them, does. The thing that I find disconcerting is that even though many of the buttons on the K3 are fully occupied with multiple TAP and HOLD functions, there are (5) that I will never ever use in their TAP -or- HOLD capacity - those being M1, M2, M3, M4, and REC. These could clearly be drafted into service as band stacking registers (on first press), yet they just stay there hogging up space on my front panel. I proposed a CONFIG option that would allow the MESSAGE keys to be used either as DVK on first press as originally fitted, but also could be used as bandstack keys if the user preferred that as a first press function over the DVK. A minimum of 5 band stack keys are waiting there for use, 10 if you include HOLD. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 100 arrives
My factory built K3 100 S/N 915 has arrived. Speedy trip from CA to SE England, UPS picked up at 16-06 on 28th and delivered here at 11-38 on 30th, now thats what I call a first class service. Order was placed 22nd Nov 07 and as I had been on holiday was held until my return. Now reading manual and listening to 40m band. A/B tests K3 - Orion will commence shortly. Regards Peter G3MLO. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-100-arrives-tp17557487p17557487.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Kanga US (Bill Kesley)
Guy's.. Just wonderin'... Can anyone tell me if Bill (N8ET)@Kanga US is back up 'n' runnin' after the problems with flood damage that he experienced a few months ago ? IF YOU SEE THIS BILL... can you get intouch buddy, need to talk to you... TIA Andy GM0NWI [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...
Amen to that Don. As a non-contesting ham at this point, I've been following this conversation trying to understand the use of "stacking band memories". As I come from a programming background, I too thought the same way about the "stack" model (FIFO) and have been racking my brain trying to figure out how this would be beneficial. I simply attributed it to my "newness" and lack of understanding. But now I feel a little better knowing someone else has the same perspective. Would someone who needs this capability, take a moment to explain its use to a neophyte? Right now, it seems intuitive to use as is, but then again, it is all I know and I'm sure that in the heat of the battle there may be a better way. 73, Dave W8FGU > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:elecraft- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 8:12 AM > To: Don Rasmussen > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate... > > Don, > > Do you really want band *stacking* memories? A stacking memory is > first-in, last out, so you have to drill down through the stack to get > the one you want. That seems likea much worse situation than the normal > band up/down switch which is a double ended stack. > > If you are referring to something different, then please do not call it > a stack - the definition of a memory stack has been quite clear since > the first days of microprocessors. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > Don Rasmussen wrote: > > I brought up the band changing issue early on with the > > guys, not because I just had to have it, but because > > it seemed that every transceiver these days that's big > > enough to have them, does. > > > > The thing that I find disconcerting is that even > > though many of the buttons on the K3 are fully > > occupied with multiple TAP and HOLD functions, there > > are (5) that I will never ever use in their TAP -or- > > HOLD capacity - those being M1, M2, M3, M4, and REC. > > > > These could clearly be drafted into service as band > > stacking registers (on first press), yet they just > > stay there hogging up space on my front panel. > > > > I proposed a CONFIG option that would allow the > > MESSAGE keys to be used either as DVK on first press > > as originally fitted, but also could be used as > > bandstack keys if the user preferred that as a first > > press function over the DVK. > > > > A minimum of 5 band stack keys are waiting there for > > use, 10 if you include HOLD. > > > > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...
Dave, I believe what is really wanted is "random access" band buttons - in other words a single button press for each band. For the life of me, I cannot figure out how this ever has been construed in ham circles to use the term "band stacking memories" - perhaps someone can tell me how 'random access' equates to a 'stack'. Despite the fact that several proposals have been brought forward for how to use the quick memory keypad (as well as the other memories) for this purpose (and it is also suggested in the K3 manual), the complaints continue because Elecraft has not chosen to make that function a permanent (and unchangable) feature. I just can't understand why the complaints, since that 'feature' is already present if one wants to set it up that way. 73, Don W3FPR Dave Van Wallaghen wrote: Amen to that Don. As a non-contesting ham at this point, I've been following this conversation trying to understand the use of "stacking band memories". As I come from a programming background, I too thought the same way about the "stack" model (FIFO) and have been racking my brain trying to figure out how this would be beneficial. I simply attributed it to my "newness" and lack of understanding. But now I feel a little better knowing someone else has the same perspective. Would someone who needs this capability, take a moment to explain its use to a neophyte? Right now, it seems intuitive to use as is, but then again, it is all I know and I'm sure that in the heat of the battle there may be a better way. 73, Dave W8FGU ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...
Ok, lets see if I get it - users want to randomly assign bands to a set of buttons in an order of their choosing, that makes sense to the operation they are performing, then memorize the meaning of the buttons, and call up a particular (and memorized) band with a single button. And this would be more convenient than cycling through the band select buttons, presumably because you are forced to cycle through bands you may not need to at this point in your operation. Am I getting this right? I apologize for the bandwidth - I'm just trying to get educated. 73, Dave W8FGU > -Original Message- > From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 9:02 AM > To: Dave Van Wallaghen > Cc: 'Don Rasmussen'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate... > > Dave, > > I believe what is really wanted is "random access" band buttons - in > other words a single button press for each band. For the life of me, I > cannot figure out how this ever has been construed in ham circles to use > the term "band stacking memories" - perhaps someone can tell me how > 'random access' equates to a 'stack'. > > Despite the fact that several proposals have been brought forward for > how to use the quick memory keypad (as well as the other memories) for > this purpose (and it is also suggested in the K3 manual), the complaints > continue because Elecraft has not chosen to make that function a > permanent (and unchangable) feature. I just can't understand why the > complaints, since that 'feature' is already present if one wants to set > it up that way. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > Dave Van Wallaghen wrote: > > Amen to that Don. As a non-contesting ham at this point, I've been > following > > this conversation trying to understand the use of "stacking band > memories". > > As I come from a programming background, I too thought the same way > about > > the "stack" model (FIFO) and have been racking my brain trying to figure > out > > how this would be beneficial. > > > > I simply attributed it to my "newness" and lack of understanding. But > now I > > feel a little better knowing someone else has the same perspective. > > > > Would someone who needs this capability, take a moment to explain its > use to > > a neophyte? Right now, it seems intuitive to use as is, but then again, > it > > is all I know and I'm sure that in the heat of the battle there may be a > > better way. > > > > 73, > > Dave W8FGU > > > > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Features - What Else?
I would be happy to receive just the current K3, forget all the gimmic features. Jim K4JAF - Original Message - From: "ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 11:19 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Features - What Else? It seems to me some are sitting around trying to figure out some little whistle they would like to add to the K3. Its even going to become an alarm clock, a broadcast station, and a coffee maker. I am glad the folks at Elecraft have a meeting of the minds before precious resources are spent on gagetry. To me, resources - particularly intellectual time - should be spent on features that mean the K3 will dig out weaker signals, have a better noise blanker, work additional digital modes, be a better contest rig, interface with popular contest or station control software, have a tuning display that is useful rather than pretty, be better behaved as a driver for an amplifier, better DSP algorithms, etc. I think time spend implementing some of the things I have seen mentioned would be a real waste, and just add to the configuration issues. IMHO this is a list of parameters that is already becoming so large that users are never getting around to understanding them all. Ken K5WK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...
I haven't used the K3 receiver enough to really comment, but I like the way the TS-930 works (with the PIEXX board installed). There are 99 memories available which are accessed via the RIT knob (similar to the K3 and the VFO B knob). In addition, there are 9 individual band buttons on the front panel that are assignable to any frequency in that band. So, for example, I can be listening to WBCQ on 7415 and then press the "80" button to move to 3530 (the frequency that I have programmed for 80 meters). The direct-frequency-entry capability of the K3 is roughly the same thing with a few more button pushes. The 930 also has "up" and "down" buttons that allow scrolling through the spectrum in 500kHz steps. 73, John W2XS -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-Band-changing...Devils-Advocate...-tp17551390p17559722.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...
My K3 should be arriving in a 2-3 weeks so I'll obviously pass on making suggestions until I can play with it awhile. My Omni VII's band stacking registers are not FIFO but rather like having four sets of VFO's for each band at the push of one button. So VFO A could be at 14.001 and VFO B operating split at 14.003 on register A. Registers B, C, and D can have their own unique settings. Rotating back to Register A brings back the last frequency you were at in this register-or 14.001/14.003. You move thru the registers by punching the band buttons. In addition, there are 100 memories each able to save both VFO's and split operation. They take two button pushes to either choose or save a frequency and to transfer it from memory to VFO. Seems pretty intuitive to me and very easy to use. Gary W7TEA -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-Band-changing...Devils-Advocate...-tp17551390p17560003.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Band Stacking
Band Stacking: I can tell you how it worked on the Yaesu MKV. There were two "band stacking" registers per band. When I'd push the band keypad button for a particular band, I'd go back to the frequency and mode I was last using on that band. If I pressed that same band button again, I'd go to a second previously used frequency and mode in that same band. If I pressed the band button again, I'd go back to the first frequency mode, etc. So I set up one "push" for the CW end of the band, and the second "push" for the SSB end of the band. The nice thing was that I'd go back to the previous frequency, not to a memory frequency, when I'd push the buttons. So I might be checking an SSB conversation occasionally, but spending most of my time on CW. So just pushing the band button (a single push) would toggle me back and forth between the two frequencies. Phil - AD5X ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...
I don't have a K3 yet but I'm happy with the Band+ and Band- buttons on my K2. I pretty much know how many pushes I'll need to get from one band to another, usually only one or two away. Anyhow, the display changes instantly with each button push before the relays get a chance to switch, so you can quickly step through multiple bands, watching the display without tripping the relays, until your target band is reached. For the ten or so ham bands we have this seems like a reasonable way of getting around. I don't know that I'd want ten or twelve extra buttons for this. That just doesn't seem any more convenient to me. In fact, it is less convenient. (But then I am a bug and straight key op so pushing a switch many hundreds of times in sequence is not a big deal to me, haha!) I never have to look at the Band+/Band- buttons; I know where they are by touch and can just focus on the display. I see that the K3 also has them in the same location: top left corner. That is ideal as far as I'm concerned. Now, getting around the non-ham bands is a different story. I'm not too crazy about direct frequency entry. Would prefer to just spin a knob to increment or decrement the frequency in 1-Mhz steps, maybe five 1-MHz steps per each full turn of the knob. I understand there is some problem with going between ham bands and non ham frequencies. I expect this will get straightened out at some point. 73, Drew AF2Z On Fri, 30 May 2008 09:18:58 -0400, Dave W8FGU wrote: >Ok, lets see if I get it - users want to randomly assign bands to a set of >buttons in an order of their choosing, that makes sense to the operation >they are performing, then memorize the meaning of the buttons, and call up a >particular (and memorized) band with a single button. > >And this would be more convenient than cycling through the band select >buttons, presumably because you are forced to cycle through bands you may >not need to at this point in your operation. > >Am I getting this right? I apologize for the bandwidth - I'm just trying to >get educated. > >73, >Dave W8FGU > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...
I'm starting to think that if, historically, all rigs had come with Band+ and Band- buttons, plus dedicated GoToBandXY buttons, we'd be seeing posts asking for a knob connected by a shaft to a multi-gang rotary switch, hooked to a big air-wound coil with multiple taps. I'm confident the Elecraft guys are prioritizing their efforts, and putting "Fifty ways to change bands" at the nether end of the list. 73, Dave KQ3T Dave Van Wallaghen wrote: Ok, lets see if I get it - users want to randomly assign bands to a set of buttons in an order of their choosing, that makes sense to the operation they are performing, then memorize the meaning of the buttons, and call up a particular (and memorized) band with a single button. And this would be more convenient than cycling through the band select buttons, presumably because you are forced to cycle through bands you may not need to at this point in your operation. Am I getting this right? I apologize for the bandwidth - I'm just trying to get educated. 73, Dave W8FGU ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Shipped
Got my MadelynGram yesterday that my K3, ordered Dec. 22nd, has shipped. Should arrive in Utah on Monday. Will post the serial number when it arrives. Kent, w7vz ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...
Hey Don (FPR type), I've been a programmer since 1980 - quite familiar with the stack. But you're right, to me a single button band set to a tunable memory would be the major advantage. Make it a 2X "stack" to access two tunable memories would be icing on the cake. I'd use high end of the band with one press, low end with the next press. It does matter that the two presses are made to the same button, seems easier than finding and pressing two separate keys. IMO 3X stacking becomes cumbersome. 4X - forget it. Everyone has their own look, YMMV, etc. ;-) Nobody should confuse my comments to be negative, I truly love this radio. [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate... Don Wilhelm w3fpr at embarqmail.com Fri May 30 08:11:38 EDT 2008 Previous message: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate... Next message: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate... Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Don, Do you really want band *stacking* memories? A stacking memory is first-in, last out, so you have to drill down through the stack to get the one you want. That seems likea much worse situation than the normal band up/down switch which is a double ended stack. If you are referring to something different, then please do not call it a stack - the definition of a memory stack has been quite clear since the first days of microprocessors. 73, Don W3FPR ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...
John, If you assign the 'Quick Memories' to the bands as suggested in the manual (and per Windy's solution on the reflector), then you have exactly the same function as your TS-930 provides. In addition, the K3's band up/down buttons will take you to the last used frequency on any band rather than to the fixed frequency you have programmed into the quick memories. The only 'catch' is that the buttons are labeled '1' thru '9', so you have to remember which band corresponds to which button - the assignments are your choice. 73, Don W3FPR John W2XS wrote: I haven't used the K3 receiver enough to really comment, but I like the way the TS-930 works (with the PIEXX board installed). There are 99 memories available which are accessed via the RIT knob (similar to the K3 and the VFO B knob). In addition, there are 9 individual band buttons on the front panel that are assignable to any frequency in that band. So, for example, I can be listening to WBCQ on 7415 and then press the "80" button to move to 3530 (the frequency that I have programmed for 80 meters). The direct-frequency-entry capability of the K3 is roughly the same thing with a few more button pushes. The 930 also has "up" and "down" buttons that allow scrolling through the spectrum in 500kHz steps. 73, John W2XS ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Memories - Band changing etc.
I miss dedicated band buttons even though my main rig has been a K2 for the last couple years. Using the "Quick Memories" and M1..M4 work quite well though. But (you knew this was coming), the very thing that makes the "Quick Memory" function handy can also be its downfall. Try as I might to be careful, I continue to clobber the memory by pressing V>M in error. Because the 00 - 09 locations are "Quick Memories" they are overwritten immediately when the numeric keypad entry is pressed. I would like to see either: 1) A menu entry to disable "Quick Memory" function for storing (V>M only). In other words when disabled, storing would require a second V>M keypress just like the rest of the memories. or 2) A menu function to LOCK the "Quick Memory" areas. This would require changing the menu entry to "QUICK" or "NORMAL" before entering anything in the "Quick Memories". or 3) A combination of 1 & 2 to give the 00-09 locations a selection of QUICK / NORMAL / LOCK. I'm sure there are many contest operators that will use the "Quick Memory" function during the heat of battle. A menu approach would not take anything away from that use. Just my $0.02. By the way, I "grew up" on DX-35s, Apaches, Drake 2Bs, HQ-170s etc etc ,even with an occasional "AW s&^$" when I clobber a memory, band change is a whole lot quicker! 73 all Bill N2BC Now all we need is a few sunspots! ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...
Don (fpr type), The TS-930 is a 25 year old design - post Y2K those memories (registers) are tunable, accessed randomly, and stacked to some level. > John, If you assign the 'Quick Memories' to the bands as suggested in the manual (and per Windy's solution on the reflector), then you have exactly the same function as your TS-930 provides. In addition, the K3's band up/down buttons will take you to the last used frequency on any band rather than to the fixed frequency you have programmed into the quick memories. The only 'catch' is that the buttons are labeled '1' thru '9', so you have to remember which band corresponds to which button - the assignments are your choice. 73, Don W3FPR ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...
Hi Dave, I think the "Band Stacking Register" definition came from the way Icom implemented it on their 756PRO series of radio. This is taken from the IC-756PROIII operating manual on page 24: "The triple band stacking register provides 3 memories in one band. 3 sets of a frequency and operating mode on each band are automatically stored when used. If a band key is pushed once, the frequency and operating mode last used are called up. When the key is pushed again, another stored frequency and operating mode are called up. This function is convenient when you operate 3 operating modes on one band. For example, one register is used for a CW frequency, another for an SSB frequency and the other one for an RTTY frequency." The 756PRO series of radio has 12 dedicated "Band Keys" which allows this kind of user interface. To implement this on the K3 in hardware is simply not possible. As I mentioned in a earlier post, it has been achieved using PowerSDR & LP-PAN. When not using PowerSDR I simply enter the 1st two digits of the band I want to go to and press enter. Works for me. Best 73, Frank - W6NEK - Original Message - From: "Dave Van Wallaghen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Don Rasmussen'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 5:35 AM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate... Amen to that Don. As a non-contesting ham at this point, I've been following this conversation trying to understand the use of "stacking band memories". As I come from a programming background, I too thought the same way about the "stack" model (FIFO) and have been racking my brain trying to figure out how this would be beneficial. I simply attributed it to my "newness" and lack of understanding. But now I feel a little better knowing someone else has the same perspective. Would someone who needs this capability, take a moment to explain its use to a neophyte? Right now, it seems intuitive to use as is, but then again, it is all I know and I'm sure that in the heat of the battle there may be a better way. 73, Dave W8FGU ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Memories - Band changing etc.
Bill Coleman N2BC wrote: > > I miss dedicated band buttons even though my main rig has been a K2 for > the last couple years. Using the "Quick Memories" and M1..M4 work quite > well though. > > But (you knew this was coming), the very thing that makes the "Quick > Memory" function handy can also be its downfall. Try as I might to be > careful, I continue to clobber the memory by pressing V>M in error. > Because the 00 - 09 locations are "Quick Memories" they are overwritten > immediately when the numeric keypad entry is pressed. > I just discovered a new way to abuse the K3 using this system. I programmed my Quick Memories to take me to frequencies in the CW part of each band, then M1 - M4 to take me to different parts of the band. So after pressing M>V, 5 to take me to 15m (CW) I pressed M>V, M3 to go to a different part of the band. Only either I didn't press M>V hard enough so it didn't register, or I had a senior moment and didn't press it at all, so I transmitted the programmed contents of memory 3 at 100W into an untuned antenna. If you use the message memories then there is a risk of accidentally transmitting their contents if you are using the same buttons as per-band memories as well. - Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-Memories---Band-changing-etc.-tp17561737p17562868.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: too easy to overwrite dial memories
Guys . . . This is much ado about nothing. Just LEARN how the K3 does memory storage and retrieval and it will become second-nature to you. During the first week or two following assembly I overwrote some memories a time or two myself . . . until I trained myself not to. In the nine months since, I have not overwritten anything. As has been said for a full year now, the K3 is a complicated piece of gear. At least initially. A complicated radio requires understanding and effort on the owner's part. If you wish not to exert the required effort (no shame in that), there are several good entry-level rigs out there by competent manufacturers, both foreign and domestic. But there is no reason to demand reinvention of the front panel and associated circuitry merely because you find certain features awkward at first. K9ZTV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 katiegrams/deliveries not being reported
looking at the serial numbers, there are a lot more shipping than are being reported to the list. 73, Jim - Original Message - From: "Jim Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Katiegrams? > KatieGrams have been very few and far between it seems the past week or so.. > Jim K4JAF > > - Original Message - > From: "Bill Maddock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 7:40 PM > Subject: [Elecraft] Katiegrams? > > > > Any Katiegrams for June Yet? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Bill N4ZI > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: too easy to overwrite dial memories
K9ZTV wrote: Guys . . . This is much ado about nothing. Just LEARN how the K3 does memory storage and retrieval and it will become second-nature to you. During the first week or two following assembly I overwrote some memories a time or two myself . . . until I trained myself not to. In the nine months since, I have not overwritten anything. As has been said for a full year now, the K3 is a complicated piece of gear. At least initially. A complicated radio requires understanding and effort on the owner's part. If you wish not to exert the required effort (no shame in that), there are several good entry-level rigs out there by competent manufacturers, both foreign and domestic. But there is no reason to demand reinvention of the front panel and associated circuitry merely because you find certain features awkward at first. With respect Kent, (and I know your email was not aimed at me) I did not ask for any such reinvention of the front panel. I simply stated that it is easy (and frustrating) to overwrite memories. I am also not afraid of exerting myself to learn the radio. My point is that it should not be possible to 'accidentally' overwrite a memory. I do not need multiple stacking thingummies or anything like that, I simply want to be able to put memories in there and not be able to overwrite them by not concentrating enough. During a contest or some other frantic time, my brain does not always cover every eventuality. Come to think of it, it is not that much good at other times :) As an Elecraft lover for over 6 years I have no wish to use another radio. I simply wish to be able to use my K3 as easily as possible and as it is basically firmware driven, I see no problem in wishing the radio to cover my humanity. If nobody asked for functionality or reported issues, the K3 would not be where it is today. 73 Ian -- Ian J Maude, G0VGS SysOp GB7MBC DX Cluster Member RSGB, GQRP K2 #4044 |K3 #455 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: too easy to overwrite dial memories
- Original Message From: Ian J Maude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> K9ZTV wrote: > Guys . . . > > This is much ado about nothing. Just LEARN how the K3 does memory > storage and retrieval and it will become second-nature to you. With respect Kent, (and I know your email was not aimed at me) I did not ask for any such reinvention of the front panel. I simply stated that it is easy (and frustrating) to overwrite memories. I am also not afraid of exerting myself to learn the radio. My point is that it should not be possible to 'accidentally' overwrite a memory. I do not need multiple stacking thingummies or anything like that, I simply want to be able to put memories in there and not be able to overwrite them by not concentrating enough. During a contest or some other frantic time, my brain does not always cover every eventuality. Come to think of it, it is not that much good at other times :) As an Elecraft lover for over 6 years I have no wish to use another radio. I simply wish to be able to use my K3 as easily as possible and as it is basically firmware driven, I see no problem in wishing the radio to cover my humanity. If nobody asked for functionality or reported issues, the K3 would not be where it is today. 73 Ian -- Ian J Maude, G0VGS SysOp GB7MBC DX Cluster Member RSGB, GQRP K2 #4044 |K3 #455 Hear, hear -- Well said, Ian. HankK8DD ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 katiegrams/deliveries not being reported
Not everyone is addicted to the Internet :) 73 de Joseph Durnal NE3R On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Jim Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > looking at the serial numbers, there are a lot more shipping than are being > reported to the list. > > 73, Jim ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Memories - Band changing etc.
Julian Don't you need the DVR to make that happen? Steve Ellington [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "G4ILO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 12:17 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Memories - Band changing etc. Bill Coleman N2BC wrote: I miss dedicated band buttons even though my main rig has been a K2 for the last couple years. Using the "Quick Memories" and M1..M4 work quite well though. But (you knew this was coming), the very thing that makes the "Quick Memory" function handy can also be its downfall. Try as I might to be careful, I continue to clobber the memory by pressing V>M in error. Because the 00 - 09 locations are "Quick Memories" they are overwritten immediately when the numeric keypad entry is pressed. I just discovered a new way to abuse the K3 using this system. I programmed my Quick Memories to take me to frequencies in the CW part of each band, then M1 - M4 to take me to different parts of the band. So after pressing M>V, 5 to take me to 15m (CW) I pressed M>V, M3 to go to a different part of the band. Only either I didn't press M>V hard enough so it didn't register, or I had a senior moment and didn't press it at all, so I transmitted the programmed contents of memory 3 at 100W into an untuned antenna. If you use the message memories then there is a risk of accidentally transmitting their contents if you are using the same buttons as per-band memories as well. - Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-Memories---Band-changing-etc.-tp17561737p17562868.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1474 - Release Date: 5/30/2008 7:44 AM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...
>>> The 756PRO series of radio has 12 dedicated "Band Keys" which allows this kind of user interface. To implement this on the K3 in hardware is simply not possible. <<< The K3 does not have 12 keys to dedicate the the function, so covering -all- bands may not be possible, but there are 5 DVR keys, which could be reassigned to allow 2X or 3X stacking of your 5 favorite bands. Some will ask - what's the point if PowerSDR can make up the difference?, others would suggest they'd rather leave the computer off most of the time. [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate... W6NEK w6nek at socal.rr.com Fri May 30 12:14:49 EDT 2008 Previous message: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate... Hi Dave, I think the "Band Stacking Register" definition came from the way Icom implemented it on their 756PRO series of radio. This is taken from the IC-756PROIII operating manual on page 24: "The triple band stacking register provides 3 memories in one band. 3 sets of a frequency and operating mode on each band are automatically stored when used. If a band key is pushed once, the frequency and operating mode last used are called up. When the key is pushed again, another stored frequency and operating mode are called up. This function is convenient when you operate 3 operating modes on one band. For example, one register is used for a CW frequency, another for an SSB frequency and the other one for an RTTY frequency." The 756PRO series of radio has 12 dedicated "Band Keys" which allows this kind of user interface. To implement this on the K3 in hardware is simply not possible. As I mentioned in a earlier post, it has been achieved using PowerSDR & LP-PAN. When not using PowerSDR I simply enter the 1st two digits of the band I want to go to and press enter. Works for me. Best 73, Frank - W6NEK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: too easy to overwrite dial memories
At the risk of offending someone - computers (and the K3 has a certain amount of that) should be programmed to serve humanity and not the other way around. I've been in IT 39 years and there was a time when I accepted that a human might have to work a certain way or act a certain way in order for the computer program to best succeed. This is no longer the case and I don't accept that any program is so limited that it makes it difficult for the human. This is what the basis of all modern computing should be. That goes for the K3 too, which by the way I love and am NOT complaining about, but I would prefer some form of confirmation step before I overwrite a memory. This does not need to be a sting of 'Are You Sure', 'Are You Really Sure You Want To", 'Are you sure you DONT want too'! - just something like a contiguous two button press or one button twice is sufficient and that should be configurable for those that don't want that feature. 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- I never did a day's work in my life; it was all fun. -Thomas Edison On 30 May 2008, at 18:20, hank k8dd wrote: I see no problem in wishing the radio to cover my humanity ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 katiegrams/deliveries not being reported
Didn't know that we had to report to this list..hi Got my K3 #698 about 5 weeks ago. Outstanding tranciever ! I would really love to call it "The Orion II killer" soon... - 73, LA1BNA Svein -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Katiegrams--tp17549155p17567169.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] hello to all K2/100 owners, advise needed
I recently got my K2 serviced and updated. I was told by the technician that I needed to tighten the mounting screws on Q1 and Q2 after 10 to 12 hours of use. Failure to do so could destroy the transitors. I have read the KPA/100 manual and it says to tighten these mounting screws after initial use. My radio is 6 years old. Do I still have to try and remove the board to tighten these mounting screws periodically when using high power(100 watts). If so needed, can I access these mounting screws easily or do I have to remove the KPA100 PCB? My K2/100 and KAT100 really performs well since it was updated and correction of a problem fixed. I do not work on radios, but I would try and do this maintanence if needed to prolong the life of the transitors. John K3JK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...
Hi Drew, - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate... |I don't have a K3 yet but I'm happy with the Band+ and Band- buttons | on my K2. I pretty much know how many pushes I'll need to get from one | band to another, usually only one or two away. You will find that the rubber buttons on the K3 do not offer the same crisp tactile feedback as those on the K2. The quad function BAND and MODE buttons are particularly bad in this respect. Regards, Mike VP8NO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 katiegrams/deliveries not being reported
Don't think anyone "has to" but just a tracking mechanism for those of us still waiting and anxiously estimating our Katiegram and delivery date. thanks es 73, de Jim KG0KP - Original Message - From: "LA1BNA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 katiegrams/deliveries not being reported > > Didn't know that we had to report to this list..hi > Got my K3 #698 about 5 weeks ago. > Outstanding tranciever ! > I would really love to call it "The Orion II killer" soon... > > - > 73, > LA1BNA Svein > -- > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Katiegrams--tp17549155p17567169.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] hello to all K2/100 owners, advise needed
John Klokis wrote: I recently got my K2 serviced and updated. I was told by the technician that I needed to tighten the mounting screws on Q1 and Q2 after 10 to 12 hours of use. Failure to do so could destroy the transitors. I have read the KPA/100 manual and it says to tighten these mounting screws after initial use. My radio is 6 years old. Do I still have to try and remove the board to tighten these mounting screws periodically when using high power(100 watts). No, it only has to be done once after initial assembly or whenever the transistors have been removed. If so needed, can I access these mounting screws easily or do I have to remove the KPA100 PCB? You need to take the shield off of the KPA100, but you do not need to remove the board. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3: overwriting memories? - Try this!
When I was first loading all the memories (I mean band switch), I too hit the wrong sequence a few times and "messed up." (See my suggestions: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/2008-March/084937.html ) But once they were loaded, I "found" an easy way to NOT overwrite what I had entered. Instead of READING what the buttons say and figuring out what that means (apparently a stumbling block for me), I just always go to the one in the top, right-hand corner first. It's easy to do...a "no brainer" - and I qualify! Do things by rote...take the "thought" out of the loop and you'll be fine. Since then, I have NEVER accidentally overwritten an existing (programmed) memory. Top right-hand corner is a great location! Try this simple approach. It works for me! de Doug KR2Q ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 and CW problem
I have a new K3 that I just got up and running. I am having a problem on CW mode. I have a 500 and 250 CW filter installed and both work the same with this problem. When I spot a station and get right on frequency the volume drops off to the point of almost disappearing. If I tune 40 to 50 hertz above or below the zero beat point the volume comes back up. I have double checked all my filter settings and the RX equalizer is set flat. NOTCH is off also. I've checked all the Menu items and do not see anything out of wack. Basically, when I tune a station spot on the volume drops to nothing. Anyone have any ideas? What am I missing? Larry Naumann N0SA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] hello to all K2/100 owners, advise needed
John: If the thermal pads for the PA transistors were replaced then you DO need to re-tighten the screws after 10 - 12 hours of use. Check with the technician who serviced and updated your K2 to see if they were replaced. 73, Ken K3IU ~~ At 05:19 PM 5/30/2008, John Klokis wrote: I recently got my K2 serviced and updated. I was told by the technician that I needed to tighten the mounting screws on Q1 and Q2 after 10 to 12 hours of use. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 and CW problem
I'm going to make a guess that the filter offset you've dialed in isn't negative. Would you connect your K3 to your PC, start the K3 Utility, navigate to the Configuration Tab, click "Edit Crystal Filters..." and verify that all the settings are correct? The frequency offset for a 5-pole crystal filter is usually negative. Do the offset values match those printed on your crystal filters? If you can, please capture a screen shot. Click the title bar of the crystal filter window, press Alt-PrtSc, then open the Windows "Paint" program and paste (with Ctrl-V) the image into paint, save it as a .jpg file and send it to me. Alternatively, save your configuration and send me the .k3config file. I'll also need to know what filters you have, what slots you installed them in, and the frequency offset value that's printed on the 5-pole filters. 73 de Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 2:28 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and CW problem I have a new K3 that I just got up and running. I am having a problem on CW mode. I have a 500 and 250 CW filter installed and both work the same with this problem. When I spot a station and get right on frequency the volume drops off to the point of almost disappearing. If I tune 40 to 50 hertz above or below the zero beat point the volume comes back up. I have double checked all my filter settings and the RX equalizer is set flat. NOTCH is off also. I've checked all the Menu items and do not see anything out of wack. Basically, when I tune a station spot on the volume drops to nothing. Anyone have any ideas? What am I missing? Larry Naumann N0SA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 and CW problem
Dick I appreciate your help in this matter but I discovered the problem. It is not the radio but my headphones. I have a pair of Kenwood HS-5 headphones and it seems they have a real dip in output below about 700Hz. I have the sidetone set at 650 Hz. When I tried a different set of headphones the problem went away. I never noticed that the speaker didn't do this either. I am kind of surprised that the HS-5 headphones have this noticeable dip in output at this range and I am surprised I never figured it out before this as I have been using these phones with my K2. But as I think about it this explains some things I noticed with my K2 but never figured out. I'll post to the list tomorrow as this might be interesting to others to know that some headphones output really drops at the lower frequencies. Larry Naumann N0SA I'm going to make a guess that the filter offset you've dialed in isn't negative. Would you connect your K3 to your PC, start the K3 Utility, navigate to the Configuration Tab, click "Edit Crystal Filters..." and verify that all the settings are correct? The frequency offset for a 5-pole crystal filter is usually negative. Do the offset values match those printed on your crystal filters? If you can, please capture a screen shot. Click the title bar of the crystal filter window, press Alt-PrtSc, then open the Windows "Paint" program and paste (with Ctrl-V) the image into paint, save it as a .jpg file and send it to me. Alternatively, save your configuration and send me the .k3config file. I'll also need to know what filters you have, what slots you installed them in, and the frequency offset value that's printed on the 5-pole filters. 73 de Dick, K6KR ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: overwriting memories? - Try this!
I went a step further and put a piece of white 1/4 inch masking tape over the V>M key. Not pretty but it works for me. It is just enough to catch your eye and of course when you really need it, it can still be depressed. I do have an "advantage" in that with poor eyesight it is not easy to read and mix up the keys! My band memories are set similar to yours Doug. I have my most used frequency in VFO-A and my second most used frequency in VFO-B. I operate mainly SSB but monitor the other modes. I have not used the band up/down for 3 months. 73 Tony Fegan VE3QF DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote: When I was first loading all the memories (I mean band switch), I too hit the wrong sequence a few times and "messed up." (See my suggestions: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/2008-March/084937.html ) But once they were loaded, I "found" an easy way to NOT overwrite what I had entered. Instead of READING what the buttons say and figuring out what that means (apparently a stumbling block for me), I just always go to the one in the top, right-hand corner first. It's easy to do...a "no brainer" - and I qualify! Do things by rote...take the "thought" out of the loop and you'll be fine. Since then, I have NEVER accidentally overwritten an existing (programmed) memory. Top right-hand corner is a great location! Try this simple approach. It works for me! de Doug KR2Q ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 and CW problem
Wow, that is an interesting result! Evidently my guess was wrong. Thanks for the follow-thru message. I think I have a pair of those phones somewhere, but I found them too tight to be comfortable. 73 de Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 7:25 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and CW problem Dick I appreciate your help in this matter but I discovered the problem. It is not the radio but my headphones. I have a pair of Kenwood HS-5 headphones and it seems they have a real dip in output below about 700Hz. I have the sidetone set at 650 Hz. When I tried a different set of headphones the problem went away. I never noticed that the speaker didn't do this either. I am kind of surprised that the HS-5 headphones have this noticeable dip in output at this range and I am surprised I never figured it out before this as I have been using these phones with my K2. But as I think about it this explains some things I noticed with my K2 but never figured out. I'll post to the list tomorrow as this might be interesting to others to know that some headphones output really drops at the lower frequencies. Larry Naumann N0SA I'm going to make a guess that the filter offset you've dialed in isn't negative. Would you connect your K3 to your PC, start the K3 Utility, navigate to the Configuration Tab, click "Edit Crystal Filters..." and verify that all the settings are correct? The frequency offset for a 5-pole crystal filter is usually negative. Do the offset values match those printed on your crystal filters? If you can, please capture a screen shot. Click the title bar of the crystal filter window, press Alt-PrtSc, then open the Windows "Paint" program and paste (with Ctrl-V) the image into paint, save it as a .jpg file and send it to me. Alternatively, save your configuration and send me the .k3config file. I'll also need to know what filters you have, what slots you installed them in, and the frequency offset value that's printed on the 5-pole filters. 73 de Dick, K6KR ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com