Re: [Elecraft] Big Box K-3
I just want to be able to see the entire menu (or more of it) over on the P3 all at the same time and I want to see the menu item and the current value that they are set to. Here is an example of how it could look: http://www.tentec.com/images/6.jpg This way as you're barreling through the options you eye can be looking for the one you want and can see more at once rather that only one at a time. I really like how fast one can traverse the menus with the two knobs and the tap disp for default value and a tid bit of help works wonderfully but they could be much more user friendly and better integrated as a product if you could get a view like that of above on the P3! ~Brett (N7MG) On Mon, 2010-08-09 at 21:47 -0400, Don Wilhelm wrote: Brett, I think the K3 gets an undeserved bad rap for the menus. The main menu has only 13 items in it, and those are the items most likely to be changed during operation. Assigning these menu items to buttons might make sense in some instances, but I don't change mics very often, nor do I change the LED or LCD brightness often, so even the MAIN menu in my K3 gets little use. Yes, the CONFIG menu is large and has many settings, but those are usually changed only as one has occasion to add options, or experiment with some of the settings to see if the operation of the K3 can be improved (such as the AGC settings). I cannot see the CONFIG menu items needing a button because they should not be needed in normal operation - experiment a bit to determine the best setting, and then leave it there. Too much monkeying with the CONFIG menu can lead to unintentional changes that cause stange and confusing happenings. If there is a need to access a CONFIG menu item frequently, perhaps one should lobby for moving that menu item to the main menu. 73, Don W3FPR Brett Howard wrote: ... make the menus of the K3 more user friendly. ~Brett (N7MG) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] P3 additions
Hi All, I would really like to see the P3 display the config and main menu with the ability to select and make changes (as did the FTdx9000D) and a waveform audio display on Tx and Rx. Both of course as optional displays so as to not take away from the current versatility of the P3. These features, when announced officially as future enhancements, would have me reaching for the plastic yet again. 73's Gary -- Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile http://www.qsl.net/vk4fd/ K3 #679 For everything else there's Mastercard!!! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Button HOLD time
Don Wilhelm wrote: I can't help with eliminating the ATT hold button. But Elecraft could. How about this? CONFIG:HOLDDLY. Increases the HOLD time required to activate secondary functions of push buttons and knobs. Minimum (and default) is 0.5 seconds. Further option: for extra-long HOLD times on the BAND and MODE rocker buttons, tap [1] to multiply the selected HOLD time by 1.5; tap [2] to multiply by 2; tap [0] to reset BAND and MODE buttons to the same HOLD time as all others (default). For further protection against accidental activation of HOLD functions, see CONFIG:SW TONE and CONFIG:PWR SET (tap [1] to lock). Any K3 owner who hosts a multi-op station will understand why. -- 73 from Ian GM3SEK http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Button HOLD time
Ian, I like your idea, would work for me and I would certainly change my default setting as they are now. 73's Gary On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Ian White GM3SEK gm3...@ifwtech.co.ukwrote: Don Wilhelm wrote: I can't help with eliminating the ATT hold button. But Elecraft could. How about this? CONFIG:HOLDDLY. Increases the HOLD time required to activate secondary functions of push buttons and knobs. Minimum (and default) is 0.5 seconds. Further option: for extra-long HOLD times on the BAND and MODE rocker buttons, tap [1] to multiply the selected HOLD time by 1.5; tap [2] to multiply by 2; tap [0] to reset BAND and MODE buttons to the same HOLD time as all others (default). For further protection against accidental activation of HOLD functions, see CONFIG:SW TONE and CONFIG:PWR SET (tap [1] to lock). Any K3 owner who hosts a multi-op station will understand why. -- 73 from Ian GM3SEK http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile http://www.qsl.net/vk4fd/ K3 #679 For everything else there's Mastercard!!! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Product Suggestion Big Box K3
Remote Internet control would be nice, but I'd rather it be a virtual control panel on my computer screen. Then I could travel anywhere and connect to my ham shack for remote operation. Maybe convert that RJ45 test jack to a ethernet portal? The size of the radio is just fine as-is. You guys ought to try the FT-847 controls in a cabinet 75% the size of the K3. Next topic, over! 73, Ed - KL7UW -- Message: 36 Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2010 17:27:45 -0400 From: Eugene Balinski euge...@nni.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Product Suggestion Big Box K3 To: Guy Olinger K2AV olin...@bellsouth.net,Tom W8JI w...@w8ji.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: web-307783...@admin.nni.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 A remote-able K3 front panel connected by Ethernet/IP would be a great thing. Personally I would like to be able to take the front panel anywhere on my LAN and connect in and operate the radio. A full internet capable connection would be even better. 73 K1NR 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 == BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com EME: 144-QRT*, 432-100w, 1296-QRT*, 3400-fall 2010 DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@hotmail.com == *temp __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Button HOLD time
The tap and hold time constants have never matched my body very well. It would be great to have these time constants user adjustable. I'm pretty tired of getting a band change when switching between QSK and semi-- especially during a contact. It just seems reasonable that there are a distribution of biological time constants when it comes to tap and hold. 73 de Brian/K3KO On 8/10/2010 2:56 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: Ian, I like your idea, would work for me and I would certainly change my default setting as they are now. 73's Gary On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Ian White GM3SEKgm3...@ifwtech.co.ukwrote: Don Wilhelm wrote: I can't help with eliminating the ATT hold button. But Elecraft could. How about this? CONFIG:HOLDDLY. Increases the HOLD time required to activate secondary functions of push buttons and knobs. Minimum (and default) is 0.5 seconds. Further option: for extra-long HOLD times on the BAND and MODE rocker buttons, tap [1] to multiply the selected HOLD time by 1.5; tap [2] to multiply by 2; tap [0] to reset BAND and MODE buttons to the same HOLD time as all others (default). For further protection against accidental activation of HOLD functions, see CONFIG:SW TONE and CONFIG:PWR SET (tap [1] to lock). Any K3 owner who hosts a multi-op station will understand why. -- 73 from Ian GM3SEK http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3061 - Release Date: 08/09/10 14:35:00 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] One small quibble K3
I adore my K3, but the Owner's Manual index, not so much. I just went looking for references to the preamplifier, because I couldn't see the button caption to turn it on or off (I know, I'm blind), and there is not a single hit on the term. This is often my experience when trying to use the index, and it makes lookups a lot harder. Perhaps somebody at Elecraft might have time to turn a really good indexer loose on the manual. 73, Pete N4ZR The World Contest Station Database, updated daily at www.conteststations.com The Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog at reversebeacon.blogspot.com, spots at telnet.reversebeacon.net, port 7000 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] topic was Big Box K3, now auto-send mode
Eric has ended this thread so I will not go into the bigger/smaller box thing. But I think Nick has a good point regarding the auto-send mode. In order not to miss a letter of his call whilst ending the auto-send mode, I use the Escape button on my keyboard. In N1MM that works great but as far as I know, only in N1MM. So Nicks suggestion sounds good to me. 73, Maarten PD2R 2010/8/9 Nick-WA5BDU nick-wa5...@suddenlink.net -*snip-* Maybe one small suggestion for a tweak. I used the auto-repeat memory function for CQing. My impulse was to tap the paddle to stop message sending if someone would begin to respond. But that would send a dit (or dah) and I'd miss part of his call. Perhaps while in auto-send mode, the first tap of the paddle should stop sending but not be transmitted. 73- Nick, WA5BDU __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3: PRE/ATT Bug or feature?
My K3 (SN 1069, fw 4.03) has always exhibited the ability to have PRE and ATT on simultaneously. If one engages ATT by a long hold, then hits PRE with a tap (same button), the display shows both functions engaged. The converse is true too, i.e. PRE engaged with a tap, followed by ATT with a long hold. Signal levels by ear and S-meter seem to indicate both features are on simultaneously. The appropriate length hold will turn one feature off, as indicated by the display. Levels change accordingly. Is this a bug, or an undocumented feature? The feature(s) being a PRE function with less gain or a ATT with less attenuation. 73 Bill, K4CIA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: PRE/ATT Bug or feature?
Bill, Normal operation. The attenuator is -10 dB and the preamp is +12 dB. So if you only need +2 dB of preamp, turning both on will give it to you. 73, Don W3FPR Bill McDowell wrote: My K3 (SN 1069, fw 4.03) has always exhibited the ability to have PRE and ATT on simultaneously. If one engages ATT by a long hold, then hits PRE with a tap (same button), the display shows both functions engaged. The converse is true too, i.e. PRE engaged with a tap, followed by ATT with a long hold. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3: Real-time clock in VFO B display?
I used to have the real-time clock showing in the VFO B part of the K3's display, but this disappeared after a firmware upgrade. Is it still possible to do this, or did the functionality go away with new firmware? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Real-time clock in VFO B display?
Hi Andrew, Tap DISP and you should see the clock display. A second tap should display the calendar. A third tap should take you back to the clock. Most don't seem to keep good time and need frequent resetting, though. YMMV. 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP elecraftcov...@rfwave.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] One small quibble K3
I find myself not printing new versions of manuals, Elecraft and others, and relying on Adobe Reader to display them on screen. Using CTL-F to find the desired section is usually quicker for me than using the index. If you have Adobe Professional or a similar program you can highlight in yellow sections of interest. Jim N7US -Original Message- I adore my K3, but the Owner's Manual index, not so much. I just went looking for references to the preamplifier, because I couldn't see the button caption to turn it on or off (I know, I'm blind), and there is not a single hit on the term. This is often my experience when trying to use the index, and it makes lookups a lot harder. Perhaps somebody at Elecraft might have time to turn a really good indexer loose on the manual. 73, Pete N4ZR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] One small quibble K3
This has been covered here many times, but download the PDF version and you can search the PDF... http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3_Owner's_Manual_Rev_D7.pdf - high res version http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3_Owner's_Manual_Rev_D7sm.pdf - web res version poke around the Elecraft site, lots of valuable PDF and other downloads available. 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- It takes a great deal of bravery to stand up to our enemies, but just as much to stand up to our friends. -J.K. Rowling, author (b. 1965) On 10 Aug 2010, at 12:06, Pete Smith wrote: I adore my K3, but the Owner's Manual index, not so much. I just went looking for references to the preamplifier, because I couldn't see the button caption to turn it on or off (I know, I'm blind), and there is not a single hit on the term. This is often my experience when trying to use the index, and it makes lookups a lot harder. Perhaps somebody at Elecraft might have time to turn a really good indexer loose on the manual. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Real-time clock in VFO B display?
Have you tried pressing the Display button and turning the VFO B knob? 73 de James K2QI On 8/10/10, Andrew Moore andrew.n...@gmail.com wrote: I used to have the real-time clock showing in the VFO B part of the K3's display, but this disappeared after a firmware upgrade. Is it still possible to do this, or did the functionality go away with new firmware? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Sent from my mobile device 73 de James K2QI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Big Box K-3
My thoughts exactly. I has hoping for a calm productive discussion. I agree with Buck, ideally all of these components would weight the same or less than they do now. Marketing this GREAT radio to a new radiance that want that big box all in one radio. Like the guys that buy DX-9000s and IC-7800s. 10-12,000 pop! I think those users would be happier with a big box K3 and they dont even know it. But they refuse to look at the K3 because they want the band scope built in or some thing else. So, I've said more than my peace. Elecraft if you ever build a larger case count me In. -- Nicholas W. Farrar Network Engineer / IT Coordinator Brown Folse PACS nfar...@bfpacs.com Office 318-595-0451 Mobile 318-381-9863 Fax 866-248-6128 From: k...@aol.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Big Box K-3 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: 7afb5.4e6358a.39922...@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Maybe naming the thread Big Box K3 was a mistake. I should have called it the K3Pro or + or Field. The idea was to explore what might happen if a K3+ included a built in power supply, amplifier, P3, speaker etc. And as a result of the bigger box, larger knobs and buttons. It's the same great radio packaged to a different concept to appeal to different users. I don't think a K3+ equipped as described would weigh one ounce more than 4 or 5 discreet boxes containing the same components. It would probably weigh less and take up less room. Now, I'm sorry I brought it up. No good deed goes unpunished. k4ia Buck Fredericksburg, VA K3 #101 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: PRE/ATT Bug or feature?
It might make gain 2dB, but what does that do overall to dynamic range? Has anyone measured performance with both attenuator and preamp on?? - Original Message - From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com To: Bill McDowell k4...@earthlink.net Cc: elecraft reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: PRE/ATT Bug or feature? Bill, Normal operation. The attenuator is -10 dB and the preamp is +12 dB. So if you only need +2 dB of preamp, turning both on will give it to you. 73, Don W3FPR Bill McDowell wrote: My K3 (SN 1069, fw 4.03) has always exhibited the ability to have PRE and ATT on simultaneously. If one engages ATT by a long hold, then hits PRE with a tap (same button), the display shows both functions engaged. The converse is true too, i.e. PRE engaged with a tap, followed by ATT with a long hold. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Button HOLD time
Thanks Ian, that was helpful! - Original Message - From: Ian White GM3SEK gm3...@ifwtech.co.uk To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:52 AM Subject: [Elecraft] Button HOLD time Don Wilhelm wrote: I can't help with eliminating the ATT hold button. But Elecraft could. How about this? CONFIG:HOLDDLY. Increases the HOLD time required to activate secondary functions of push buttons and knobs. Minimum (and default) is 0.5 seconds. Further option: for extra-long HOLD times on the BAND and MODE rocker buttons, tap [1] to multiply the selected HOLD time by 1.5; tap [2] to multiply by 2; tap [0] to reset BAND and MODE buttons to the same HOLD time as all others (default). For further protection against accidental activation of HOLD functions, see CONFIG:SW TONE and CONFIG:PWR SET (tap [1] to lock). Any K3 owner who hosts a multi-op station will understand why. -- 73 from Ian GM3SEK http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] How to demo P3/K3?
Don, The main difficulty I believe with down-converting a band to audio, and then up-converting back to RF to demonstrate the performance of the P3, could be the spurious products generated during each conversion, which might reflect badly on the true performance of the P3 if the products generated during each conversion resulted in spurs within the chosen span of the P3. If the P3 included a record - playback scheme similar to that provided by the Perseus SDR, it would then be vey easy to demonstrate the performance of the P3. So far I have not found any alien spurs when using this feature of Perseus. I have not yet investigated how this scheme is implemented in Perseus, but on occasion when using my Perseus either as a panadapter or as a stand-alone receiver I have recorded up to several hours worth of band activity. Mind you the total size of the resulting files is massive!! The record-playback feature is also very useful when using Perseus as a spectrum analyzer during the development of circuitry, in that it provides a record of the effect of changes made. FWIW 73, Geoff GM4ESD Don Wilhelm wrote on Monday, August 09, 2010 8:19 PM You don't have to build that mixer to shift the ham band down to the audio range, a Softrock receiver will do that. For that matter, you don't need the I and Q channels, so any DC receiver without audio filtering after the mixer will do that job too. Turning it back into RF is the bigger problem. You need an SSB generator followed by a wide band filter for that unless you want to tolerate the carrier and the opposite sideband as well. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Wish List K3 remote front face kit
I know that the big box thread has been killed I was going to post my thoughts yesterday but did not The only thing the DMU in my subjective opinion was good for besides (pretty eye candy) was the menu being completely displayed in plain English, it does everything. but nothing well. Second I really miss the triple band stacking memory in a key pad numbers on the face of the radio sohere are my thoughts while I have gotten used to how the face of the radio does work. My subjective opinion I do not like to play Point and click computer control radio I want to operate the radio from the Radio not a computer, to have this option is nice however so. Wish list Front panel option A removable front panel for one that is much large ...to be determined by the (engineers who have done such a marvelous job with the ergonomics of the great radio) Remember the ts2000 computer radio face have a cable that connects to a new front end panel like some sorta of HDMI cable to the new remote face which could be adjusted to a 45 degree angle or what ever have the full size buttons band stacking registry big knobs single tap menu changes all the stuff one wish for to be determined by the engineers who design this stuff. I know that I have missed some feature to be engineered into this new remote face take a pole see what the customer base would support. This would be an option so the original size box is not out dated or made obsolete by then next better box. A one tap QMB Last I like lifting the small radio much better than my newly departed one owner 18 year old FT1000d small is good with a (remote) new bigger front face for the K3 would be all good. Things I love about Elecraft and the K3 The best company in Amateur Radio to deal with customer support The fact the owners and design team don't hide from the forum and take e-mails even complaints High performance in a small light package The fact you don't have to sell a 2 year old top end radio at 1/2 price then double the original cost to get the next latest hype this new radio chase is stupid as I see it I'm done playing the game. I have ground off the Yaesu tattoo on my chest I will probably never... purchase another new... Yaesu radio the FT2000 DMU U-tuning kit experience was a painful eye opening experience. YAESU LIED AND MY LOYALTY DIED no diversity receive, triple roof filters soft front end stuff that they covered up. Rushing new stuff to market before its ready to beat the competition. I know that new products are not easy to learn or adjust to a DVD that shows all the features with explanation of how this all works might be useful many learn much better with audio visual teaching than reading a manual. Sorry for the band width Eric Regards Art ka9zap On 8/9/2010 9:35 PM, Tom W8JI wrote: I think somewhere in the archives there is a comment from Elecraft regarding the PF buttons on the P3 being able to operate some features/menus on the K3?. I programmed the M1 through M4 buttons for bandwidth instead of using the rotary knob. Much better for CW. I would like to disable the attenuator so ops don't push too long and turn it on. With my station I never use the ATT function, just preamp on or off. The only other issue is the AB split button and A/B. It would be nice to have a second frequency tucked away for instant recall with one quick tap, not what is on VFO A or B. I think what people really miss is being able to tap the band buttons and have two frequencies stored in each band button like a Yaesu will do. I really miss those band buttons. :-) The size isn't as important to operators here (or me) as being able to make the above happen fast while distracted. I'd take a bigger box to have those band buttons. 73 Tom __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Storing frequencies and bandwidth
You can recall the default bandwidth for each roofing filter by using the XFIL button. If you then used PF1/PF2 for two other bandwidths you would not tie up M1 - M4. When operators come in and have an hour or two to learn things, it is easier to relabel the M1-M4 bandwidth and just tap them. When there is QRM and a contact lasts only a few seconds bandwidth needs changed fast! Push and hold takes too long. The RIT and XIT are also used all the time, so there is that consideration. It would be nice to have a second frequency tucked away for instant recall with one quick tap, not what is on VFO A or B. If you free up M1 - M4 you can store four frequencies per band ... to save them it's VM M1-M4, to recall them it's MV M1-M4 (in fact it appears that you can have eight frequencies and M1-M4 can be both tap and hold). The use of RIT and the need for speed in changing BW means I have to keep bandwidths on M1-M4. It might be ok but it might also be too inconvient with so many button pushes, I haven't tried it because one of the first suggestions was to get bandwidths on push buttons. :-) I'll give it a try though by eliminating one preset bandwidth and see how it plays. It's just really nice to have a stacking memory in the BAND buttons. Everyone I know uses it far more than regular memories. I haven't tired it but you might even be able to use Hold M1-M4 for setting bandwidth No, that has to be FAST. and MV tap M1-M4 for your per band scratchpad memories. That might be able to be a hold, I'm going to try making the hold delay longer. 73 Tom __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K2 #5717 for sale
Ladies and Gents: I am selling my lovingly built K2 (#5717). K2 (10 watt) ... with the following options: Complete set of unmodules with the mic adapter, K160RX (built but not installed), K60VX, KAF2, KAT2, KIO2, and KSB2. All it will require for the 160m option is to install the BNC adapter, and solder the center and ground leads from the board to the BNC. With the unmodules, the rest is plug and play. If you were to purchase the kits for a new K2, you would spend $1300 with Elecraft ... and you cannot purchase a full unmodule kit today (I paid $70 when I built the radio). In addition, the radio has had a final adjustment and alignment in October, 2009 by Don Wilhelm (W3FPR). I've used the radio once since the alignment ... You will receive every scrap of documentation that are in my files, cables, Don's report about alignment, etc. etc. I would like $1100 for it. If it doesn't sell for that amount, I will sell to the highest bidder in the next 24 hours. We can discuss shipping. Paypal is OK ... Continental US shipping only. Thanks in advance. Please contact me off list for more details ... eworth at spamcopdot net gene worth WG7GW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Real-time clock in VFO B display?
Have you tried pressing the Display button and turning the VFO B knob? Done, works, thanks all. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Storing frequencies and bandwidth
An outboard appliance containing programmable buttons would be useful. For example, I'll push SPOT hundreds of times during a contest. A small pod that I could position on the left side of my computer keyboard would be nice. Bandwidth selection from the pod would be a real bonus. 73, Mike K2MK W8JI wrote: You can recall the default bandwidth for each roofing filter by using the XFIL button. If you then used PF1/PF2 for two other bandwidths you would not tie up M1 - M4. When operators come in and have an hour or two to learn things, it is easier to relabel the M1-M4 bandwidth and just tap them. When there is QRM and a contact lasts only a few seconds bandwidth needs changed fast! Push and hold takes too long. The RIT and XIT are also used all the time, so there is that consideration. It would be nice to have a second frequency tucked away for instant recall with one quick tap, not what is on VFO A or B. If you free up M1 - M4 you can store four frequencies per band ... to save them it's VM M1-M4, to recall them it's MV M1-M4 (in fact it appears that you can have eight frequencies and M1-M4 can be both tap and hold). The use of RIT and the need for speed in changing BW means I have to keep bandwidths on M1-M4. It might be ok but it might also be too inconvient with so many button pushes, I haven't tried it because one of the first suggestions was to get bandwidths on push buttons. :-) I'll give it a try though by eliminating one preset bandwidth and see how it plays. It's just really nice to have a stacking memory in the BAND buttons. Everyone I know uses it far more than regular memories. I haven't tired it but you might even be able to use Hold M1-M4 for setting bandwidth No, that has to be FAST. and MV tap M1-M4 for your per band scratchpad memories. That might be able to be a hold, I'm going to try making the hold delay longer. 73 Tom -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Big-Box-K-3-tp5391253p5393200.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Just checking on order # 2135-5082-0730
Hi, Just getting some idea on when my order #2135-5082-0730 will be filled. Thanks very much, Chuck Hawley, KE9UW c-haw...@illinois.edu Jack (ret.) Jack Hawley MOA and RA #224, KE9UW (Chuck, my first name, for Ham Radio and Lionel Trains). __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Just checking on order # 2135-5082-0730
Just getting some idea on when my order #2135-5082-0730 will be filled. Chuck a/k/a Jack, Only a few folks can answer your question -- and I hope they are spending their time working at Elecraft, not watching this reflector. :) For a better response send your request to sa...@elecraft.com Mark AD5SS On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 8:37 AM, C. J. Hawley c-haw...@illinois.edu wrote: Hi, Just getting some idea on when my order #2135-5082-0730 will be filled. Thanks very much, Chuck Hawley, KE9UW c-haw...@illinois.edu Jack (ret.) Jack Hawley MOA and RA #224, KE9UW (Chuck, my first name, for Ham Radio and Lionel Trains). __ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Just checking on order # 2135-5082-0730
So sorry. Meant to send to Elecraft and had the same nickname in my address file for the reflector and the sales. Sorry, Chuck, KE9UW Original message Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 09:25:07 -0500 From: Mark Bayern plcm...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Just checking on order # 2135-5082-0730 To: c-haw...@illinois.edu Cc: elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net Just getting some idea on when my order #2135-5082-0730 will be filled. Chuck a/k/a Jack, Only a few folks can answer your question -- and I hope they are spending their time working at Elecraft, not watching this reflector. :) For a better response send your request to sa...@elecraft.com Mark AD5SS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] NAQCC Sprint Tuesday night!
NAQCC Sprint Tuesday night! This coming Tuesday evening will be the monthly NAQCC Sprint for August, 2010. I will refer you to the proper URL: http://home.windstream.net/yoel/sprint201008.html There you will find all the details as to time, frequencies and also a special prize. This month's Special Prize goes to the winner, to be decided by drawing among all who submit a valid log, gets a choice of paddle handles, straight key knobs, and/or K2 knob inserts donated by Gregg WB8LZG. This is a monthly event that caters to the CW veteran, the CW newcomer, straight key and bug fans. All are welcome to participate (this includes QRO); but you must use QRP power levels to compete for awards. Come join us and have a real good time! 72/73 de Dave VA3RJ NAQCC #0004 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Storing frequencies and bandwidth
An outboard appliance containing programmable buttons would be useful. Available now with X-Keys (www.xkeys.com) devices as long as you are using a computer. X-Keys devices could be programmed to generate K3 macros which can be combined with Logger control using the Enterlogic VSPE (Free) or similar software. The VSPE function is built into microHAM Router (for those using microHAM keyer interfaces). One only needs one of the X-Keys keyboards or button bars (PS/2 or USB) and an application to translate the button presses to macro commands. An external device (no computer) would not be that difficult to build using a PIC and USB keypad. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 8/10/2010 10:11 AM, Mike K2MK wrote: An outboard appliance containing programmable buttons would be useful. For example, I'll push SPOT hundreds of times during a contest. A small pod that I could position on the left side of my computer keyboard would be nice. Bandwidth selection from the pod would be a real bonus. 73, Mike K2MK W8JI wrote: You can recall the default bandwidth for each roofing filter by using the XFIL button. If you then used PF1/PF2 for two other bandwidths you would not tie up M1 - M4. When operators come in and have an hour or two to learn things, it is easier to relabel the M1-M4 bandwidth and just tap them. When there is QRM and a contact lasts only a few seconds bandwidth needs changed fast! Push and hold takes too long. The RIT and XIT are also used all the time, so there is that consideration. It would be nice to have a second frequency tucked away for instant recall with one quick tap, not what is on VFO A or B. If you free up M1 - M4 you can store four frequencies per band ... to save them it's VM M1-M4, to recall them it's MV M1-M4 (in fact it appears that you can have eight frequencies and M1-M4 can be both tap and hold). The use of RIT and the need for speed in changing BW means I have to keep bandwidths on M1-M4. It might be ok but it might also be too inconvient with so many button pushes, I haven't tried it because one of the first suggestions was to get bandwidths on push buttons. :-) I'll give it a try though by eliminating one preset bandwidth and see how it plays. It's just really nice to have a stacking memory in the BAND buttons. Everyone I know uses it far more than regular memories. I haven't tired it but you might even be able to use Hold M1-M4 for setting bandwidth No, that has to be FAST. and MV tap M1-M4 for your per band scratchpad memories. That might be able to be a hold, I'm going to try making the hold delay longer. 73 Tom __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Storing frequencies and bandwidth
Hi Joe, Looks good, but if Elecraft made it, it would be perfectly integrated with the K3. It could be programmed from the K3 Utility Program and would not require other software to be running for it to work. 73, Mike K2MK -- From: Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 10:50 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; k...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Storing frequencies and bandwidth An outboard appliance containing programmable buttons would be useful. Available now with X-Keys (www.xkeys.com) devices as long as you are using a computer. X-Keys devices could be programmed to generate K3 macros which can be combined with Logger control using the Enterlogic VSPE (Free) or similar software. The VSPE function is built into microHAM Router (for those using microHAM keyer interfaces). One only needs one of the X-Keys keyboards or button bars (PS/2 or USB) and an application to translate the button presses to macro commands. An external device (no computer) would not be that difficult to build using a PIC and USB keypad. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 8/10/2010 10:11 AM, Mike K2MK wrote: An outboard appliance containing programmable buttons would be useful. For example, I'll push SPOT hundreds of times during a contest. A small pod that I could position on the left side of my computer keyboard would be nice. Bandwidth selection from the pod would be a real bonus. 73, Mike K2MK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Storing frequencies and bandwidth
Looks good, but if Elecraft made it, And you think Elecraft can produce something in small quantities at a price competitive with a larger market product, sell it to a subset of the 5000 Kw owners at a lower price than the equivalent commercial product and make a reasonable profit? Believe me, I looked into a 12 button external box and it wasn't feasible for the $100 price of one of the Xkeys sticks. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 8/10/2010 11:04 AM, K2MK wrote: Hi Joe, Looks good, but if Elecraft made it, it would be perfectly integrated with the K3. It could be programmed from the K3 Utility Program and would not require other software to be running for it to work. 73, Mike K2MK -- From: Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 10:50 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; k...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Storing frequencies and bandwidth An outboard appliance containing programmable buttons would be useful. Available now with X-Keys (www.xkeys.com) devices as long as you are using a computer. X-Keys devices could be programmed to generate K3 macros which can be combined with Logger control using the Enterlogic VSPE (Free) or similar software. The VSPE function is built into microHAM Router (for those using microHAM keyer interfaces). One only needs one of the X-Keys keyboards or button bars (PS/2 or USB) and an application to translate the button presses to macro commands. An external device (no computer) would not be that difficult to build using a PIC and USB keypad. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 8/10/2010 10:11 AM, Mike K2MK wrote: An outboard appliance containing programmable buttons would be useful. For example, I'll push SPOT hundreds of times during a contest. A small pod that I could position on the left side of my computer keyboard would be nice. Bandwidth selection from the pod would be a real bonus. 73, Mike K2MK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Power supply
JOHN SAID Elecraft could design a small (RFI quiet) switching PS which would constantly recharge an appropriately sized LiFePO4 battery pack, which in turn would supply the power needed by the K3/P3 combo (i.e. 25 amps). In effect this would replace the large caps in the HPS-1a design, with the LiPo battery. Bottom line: a universal voltage uninterruptible internal PS. I agree, and more to the point -- I would buy one. eric VA7DZ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Storing frequencies and bandwidth
Joe, how would I use X-keys (say a stick) on a Mac running OSX 10.6.4 via a DigiKeyer? 73 de M0XDF -- Being a System Administrator is like being a plumber. If you do a good job, nobody knows. If you screw up, everybody gets covered in s**t! On 10 Aug 2010, at 16:27, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Looks good, but if Elecraft made it, And you think Elecraft can produce something in small quantities at a price competitive with a larger market product, sell it to a subset of the 5000 Kw owners at a lower price than the equivalent commercial product and make a reasonable profit? Believe me, I looked into a 12 button external box and it wasn't feasible for the $100 price of one of the Xkeys sticks. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 8/10/2010 11:04 AM, K2MK wrote: Hi Joe, Looks good, but if Elecraft made it, it would be perfectly integrated with the K3. It could be programmed from the K3 Utility Program and would not require other software to be running for it to work. 73, Mike K2MK -- From: Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 10:50 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; k...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Storing frequencies and bandwidth An outboard appliance containing programmable buttons would be useful. Available now with X-Keys (www.xkeys.com) devices as long as you are using a computer. X-Keys devices could be programmed to generate K3 macros which can be combined with Logger control using the Enterlogic VSPE (Free) or similar software. The VSPE function is built into microHAM Router (for those using microHAM keyer interfaces). One only needs one of the X-Keys keyboards or button bars (PS/2 or USB) and an application to translate the button presses to macro commands. An external device (no computer) would not be that difficult to build using a PIC and USB keypad. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 8/10/2010 10:11 AM, Mike K2MK wrote: An outboard appliance containing programmable buttons would be useful. For example, I'll push SPOT hundreds of times during a contest. A small pod that I could position on the left side of my computer keyboard would be nice. Bandwidth selection from the pod would be a real bonus. 73, Mike K2MK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] I can hear stations on other side of Zero beat
Hi all, I just finished building my K2 and it seems to be working well on receive. However, I have noticed that I can hear CW stations on both sides of zero beat when using the widest (1.5kHz) filter setting. It's not just a weakly audible signal for very strong 59+20 signals, which I would expect. I can hear a 59 signal at S7 or S8. With the 0.7kHz signal this is not the case, so I presume it is to do with the way that I have setup the filter and the BFO. What have I done wrong? Any ideas? I set it up as per the instructions in the manual. Chris ac2cz g0kla -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/I-can-hear-stations-on-other-side-of-Zero-beat-tp5393616p5393616.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 endless menus
Don Wilhelm said: Brett, I think the K3 gets an undeserved bad rap for the menus. The main menu has only 13 items in it, and those are the items most likely to be changed during operation. ___ I agree. I was intially overwhelmed by the CONFIG menus. However, after I got my K3 tailored just the way I wanted it - took about a month elapsed time - I only change a parameter very occasionally, except for two which I assigned to the PF buttons. [QSK + and SPKRS ON ] And it is easy to do -IF- one reads the User Manual. And I appreciate being able to make a bunch of design decisions for myself, for just my radio. eric VA7DZ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Power supply
How much would you be willing to pay? $300, $500? Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ From: eric manning eric.mann...@engr.uvic.ca To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 10:29:39 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Power supply JOHN SAID Elecraft could design a small (RFI quiet) switching PS which would constantly recharge an appropriately sized LiFePO4 battery pack, which in turn would supply the power needed by the K3/P3 combo (i.e. 25 amps). In effect this would replace the large caps in the HPS-1a design, with the LiPo battery. Bottom line: a universal voltage uninterruptible internal PS. I agree, and more to the point -- I would buy one. eric VA7DZ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] I can hear stations on other side of Zero beat
Chris, There are 2 things 'wrong' which are contributing to your problem. First, the varactors that have shipped recently have a greater capacitance range than they used to - same type number, so 'go figure'. The result is that the filter widths at the wider settings are substantially wider than indicated by the K2 display - so the recommended FL1 setting of 1.50 kHz may actually be as wide as 2.00 kHz. The filters less than 1.00 width seem to be running about normal. The second thing 'wrong' is a result of the first - the BFO settings in the manual are no longer correct due to this change in the varactor performance. The cure is to use Spectrogram to set your filters. Make sure you set the wide CW filter off to one side of zero frequency on the Spectrogram screen. Spectrogram will allow you to measure the actual width of your filters. Take a look at the K2 Dila Calibration article on my website www.w3fpr.com for information about using Spectrogram (part 3 is about setting the filters). The application is available for download from Tom Hammond's website www.n0ss.net. You will find a similar problem with the SSB filter set - the width is much wider than indicated by the K2. Spectrogram will give you the tool to visually see this and make the proper adjustment. 73, Don W3FPR g0kla wrote: Hi all, I just finished building my K2 and it seems to be working well on receive. However, I have noticed that I can hear CW stations on both sides of zero beat when using the widest (1.5kHz) filter setting. It's not just a weakly audible signal for very strong 59+20 signals, which I would expect. I can hear a 59 signal at S7 or S8. With the 0.7kHz signal this is not the case, so I presume it is to do with the way that I have setup the filter and the BFO. What have I done wrong? Any ideas? I set it up as per the instructions in the manual. Chris ac2cz g0kla __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] who got P3 sn 44???
my P3 sn # is one off from my radio #44 #...@#%$#@^%$ whomever got # 44would ya swap labels sn for # 43 tnx for the trivial waste of everyone 's time bill __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Elecraft Power supply
I think I would pay $500. I have no idea if it is do-able at that price. eric VA7DZ How much would you be willing to pay? $300, $500? Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ From: eric manning eric.mann...@engr.uvic.ca To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 10:29:39 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Power supply JOHN SAID Elecraft could design a small (RFI quiet) switching PS which would constantly recharge an appropriately sized LiFePO4 battery pack, which in turn would supply the power needed by the K3/P3 combo (i.e. 25 amps). In effect this would replace the large caps in the HPS-1a design, with the LiPo battery. Bottom line: a universal voltage uninterruptible internal PS. I agree, and more to the point -- I would buy one. eric VA7DZ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] P3 #099 Just Arrived
Just to give the waiting group an idea of serial numbers. Now to the build!!! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] I can hear stations on other side of Zero beat
Thanks Tom and Don for helpful advice. I will try Spectrogram to re-setup the filters. So far I just set them up using the data in the table in the manual. Chris g0kla ac2cz On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Tom Hammond n...@embarqmail.com wrote: Hi Chris: What method did you use to adjust your BFO (XTAL FILTER) settings? If you have a PC available to use (even if only temporarily) with your K2, you might consider going to my web site and downloading Spectrogram v5.1.7 and the written docs (immediately below the Spectrogram link) which specifically detail how to use Spectrogram to ACCURATELY adjust your BFOs so that the filters are working as well as possible. That should address your problem. The ONLY 'additional' device you'll need will be an audio (monaural) cable to go from the K2 SPKR output to the MIC (or LINE) IN input on your PC. Spectrogram and the docs are available at: Spectrogram: http://www.n0ss.net/spectrogram517.exe Documentation: http://www.n0ss.net/k2_filters_using_gram_v5r17.pdf Shout if you need any help. Cheers, Tom Hammond N0SS At 10:47 08/10/2010, you wrote: Hi all, I just finished building my K2 and it seems to be working well on receive. However, I have noticed that I can hear CW stations on both sides of zero beat when using the widest (1.5kHz) filter setting. It's not just a weakly audible signal for very strong 59+20 signals, which I would expect. I can hear a 59 signal at S7 or S8. With the 0.7kHz signal this is not the case, so I presume it is to do with the way that I have setup the filter and the BFO. What have I done wrong? Any ideas? I set it up as per the instructions in the manual. Chris ac2cz g0kla -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/I-can-hear-stations-on-other-side-of-Zero-beat-tp5393616p5393616.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Chris E. Thompson chrisethomp...@gmail.com g0...@arrl.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] who got P3 sn 44???
You know, sooner or later this practice is going to backfire. Someone is going to swap, say, SN 150 for SN 50. Then Elecraft is going to come out with a hardware mod that applies only to units with SN 100. Pretty unlikely for units a few numbers apart, but there IS a point to having specific numbers associated with specific hardware. I wonder if the SN is programmed into the P3 firmware like it is in the K3? 73 -- Joe KB8AP On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:08 AM, ny9h wrote: my P3 sn # is one off from my radio #44 #...@#%$#@^%$ whomever got # 44would ya swap labels sn for # 43 tnx for the trivial waste of everyone 's time bill __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: PRE/ATT Bug or feature?
This is NOT a bug, this is working EXACTLY as it should. Some time you want to have a little extra gain, but not as much as the Pre does alone. In this case you will run the Pre ON, and the ATT on at the same time. No bug there. Just another way Elecraft has made the K3 a versatile rig for finding weak signals in a loud noise floor. Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 08:31:15 -0400 From: k4...@earthlink.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3: PRE/ATT Bug or feature? My K3 (SN 1069, fw 4.03) has always exhibited the ability to have PRE and ATT on simultaneously. If one engages ATT by a long hold, then hits PRE with a tap (same button), the display shows both functions engaged. The converse is true too, i.e. PRE engaged with a tap, followed by ATT with a long hold. Signal levels by ear and S-meter seem to indicate both features are on simultaneously. The appropriate length hold will turn one feature off, as indicated by the display. Levels change accordingly. Is this a bug, or an undocumented feature? The feature(s) being a PRE function with less gain or a ATT with less attenuation. 73 Bill, K4CIA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: PRE/ATT Bug or feature?
This is available on the K2 as well, but only by sending commands via the KIO2. I made a little program to do that so I can set pre/att on each band depending on noise before adjusting RF Gain. It goes in the Feature category. :-) 73, Mike ab3ap On 08/10/10 12:53, The Smiths wrote: This is NOT a bug, this is working EXACTLY as it should [...] From: k4...@earthlink.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3: PRE/ATT Bug or feature? My K3 (SN 1069, fw 4.03) has always exhibited the ability to have PRE and ATT on simultaneously [...] __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] who got P3 sn 44???
good point since i was missing the standoffs for the front panel i was stoppe din my tracks when i started to assemble bill At 12:26 PM 8/10/2010, you wrote: Bill: You might want to check - but what if the P3's serial number is imbedded in the firmware as was done with the K3. In which case just exchanging the P3's labels wouldn't do it. I have a P3 on order but not received yet so I can't check this out. 73, Doug VE3MV - Original Message - From: ny9h n...@arrl.net To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 12:08 PM Subject: [Elecraft] who got P3 sn 44??? my P3 sn # is one off from my radio #44 #...@#%$#@^%$ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Power supply
Now, why should Elecraft build power supplies? Let them stick to what we know their good at: making transceivers and ancillaries, kits, ... There is a plethora of good, clean PSUs on the market. Just for info: I have two, rated at 28 A peak, from a German provider but they look as if they were from Jetstream! No problem, no noise, working flawlessly for two years. Purchased at Friedrichshafen Ham Fair for about $ 90 each - so what are we talking about? Our friends at Aptos are busy working on the P3, KPA500, ATU... Why should they go into the trouble of developing yet another PSU when there are so many to choose from? - just for the fun of having a matching box next to the K3/P3? Elecraft is unique - the K3 is unique - anyone can build decent PSUs. Just my two Eurocents! Eric Manning wrote: I think I would pay $500. I have no idea if it is do-able at that price. eric VA7DZ How much would you be willing to pay? $300, $500? Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ - Richard - HB9ANM -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Elecraft-Power-supply-tp5393753p5393961.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: PRE/ATT Bug or feature?
This is one of those things that has always been possible in radios that had both. In the MP, with the 0-6-12-18 ATT and both IPO and menu selected preamp function, it has always been possible to do preamp with the ATT set. Make any sense? Maybe, but don't think so. Even less so on a K3 A lot of the design decisions in the K3 appear to have been made with an eye to keeping the APPEARANCE of analog function, e.g. so called RF gain. The menu driven RF gain on the Orion was always a startup learning issue. I'm sure Wayne was watching. It certainly is possible in firmware to not allow the PRE to be set when the ATT is on. But why put up with the support calls about can't turn on PRE when it doesn't behave like predecessor radios, when most will intuitively understand that ATT+PRE equals neither. Most of the time I don't need to be protected from myself. The other times no one can help me anyway. : ) 73, Guy. On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Tom W8JI w...@w8ji.com wrote: It might make gain 2dB, but what does that do overall to dynamic range? Has anyone measured performance with both attenuator and preamp on?? - Original Message - From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com To: Bill McDowell k4...@earthlink.net Cc: elecraft reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: PRE/ATT Bug or feature? Bill, Normal operation. The attenuator is -10 dB and the preamp is +12 dB. So if you only need +2 dB of preamp, turning both on will give it to you. 73, Don W3FPR Bill McDowell wrote: My K3 (SN 1069, fw 4.03) has always exhibited the ability to have PRE and ATT on simultaneously. If one engages ATT by a long hold, then hits PRE with a tap (same button), the display shows both functions engaged. The converse is true too, i.e. PRE engaged with a tap, followed by ATT with a long hold. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Amplifier
I know that at Dayton, Elecraft showed an outboard amplifier to be available at a later date. I presently have a K3 10 and am wondering id the 10 watts will be enough to kick the new amp and does anybody have an idea how many dollar$ ? Sorry if this was already covered. A happy K3 owner Rich KC8HMJ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] who got P3 sn 44???
The serial number is NOT programmed into the P3. Joe, however, does have an excellent point about future mods. While you will probably remember what the real number is, someday your P3 might belong to someone else who may not. 73, Brian, W6FVI P3 Production Manager Elecraft,Inc. Original Message Subject: Re: [Elecraft] who got P3 sn 44??? Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 09:27:41 -0700 From: Joe Planisky jp...@jeffnet.org To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net You know, sooner or later this practice is going to backfire. Someone is going to swap, say, SN 150 for SN 50. Then Elecraft is going to come out with a hardware mod that applies only to units with SN 100. Pretty unlikely for units a few numbers apart, but there IS a point to having specific numbers associated with specific hardware. I wonder if the SN is programmed into the P3 firmware like it is in the K3? 73 -- Joe KB8AP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: PRE/ATT Bug or feature?
This is NOT a bug, this is working EXACTLY as it should. Some time you want to have a little extra gain, but not as much as the Pre does alone. In this case you will run the Pre ON, and the ATT on at the same time. No bug there. Just another way Elecraft has made the K3 a versatile rig for finding weak signals in a loud noise floor. The question is not gain, because 2 dB of additional gain is not significant. The question is how running both the preamp and attenuator affects dynamic range. It probably decreases dynamic range. I guess no one has measured it. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Amplifier
...I presently have a K3 10 and am wondering if the 10 watts will be enough to kick the new amp Yes, it will. You'll likely get more than 100 watts but less than 200 watts output with 10 watts of drive. If you want the full 500+ watts, then you'll probably need 30W to 40W of drive. 73, Lyle KK7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 endless menus
A great future enhancement would be to allow the user to assign, via the K3 utility software, which functions go to Menu and which go to Config. Frequently-used functions on Menu, the rest on Config. Could probably be done with a table of pointers and a little software magic. --- On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:54 AM, eric manning eric.mann...@engr.uvic.cawrote: Don Wilhelm said: Brett, I think the K3 gets an undeserved bad rap for the menus. The main menu has only 13 items in it, and those are the items most likely to be changed during operation. ___ I agree. I was intially overwhelmed by the CONFIG menus. However, after I got my K3 tailored just the way I wanted it - took about a month elapsed time - I only change a parameter very occasionally, except for two which I assigned to the PF buttons. [QSK + and SPKRS ON ] And it is easy to do -IF- one reads the User Manual. And I appreciate being able to make a bunch of design decisions for myself, for just my radio. eric VA7DZ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] monitor toggle?
Is there a command to toggle the monitor function on and off without changing the level? I operate with both headphones and external stereo speakers plugged in. When I'm ragchewing or just messing around, I'll use external powered stereo speakers, but when I'm more serious about a contact, I'll put on the headphones and turn the volume down/off for the speakers. With speakers, the monitor needs to be off, but I like it on while using headphones. I'm hoping to find a way to toggle the monitor on/off when I switch back and forth, but without having to mess with levels. Is there such a way, or am I stuck with ML00 to turn it off, and then having to force it to a particular level to turn it back on? Having an on/off TOGGLE would also allow me to use a single macro/button for the function instead of having to use two different ones. Thanks Gary / k3wow, k34407 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] who got P3 sn 44???
I thought the same thing, but if they are willing to accept it... 73 de M0XDF -- Children aren't happy without something to ignore, And that's what parents were created for. -Ogden Nash (1902-1971) On 10 Aug 2010, at 17:27, Joe Planisky wrote: You know, sooner or later this practice is going to backfire. Someone is going to swap, say, SN 150 for SN 50. Then Elecraft is going to come out with a hardware mod that applies only to units with SN 100. Pretty unlikely for units a few numbers apart, but there IS a point to having specific numbers associated with specific hardware. I wonder if the SN is programmed into the P3 firmware like it is in the K3? 73 -- Joe KB8AP On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:08 AM, ny9h wrote: my P3 sn # is one off from my radio #44 #...@#%$#@^%$ whomever got # 44would ya swap labels sn for # 43 tnx for the trivial waste of everyone 's time bill __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Big Box K-3
snip because they want the band scope built in or some thing else. So, I've said more than my peace. Elecraft if you ever build a larger case count me In. Yes, I'd have one.. I miss the scope on the front of my 756pro2. Well, I don't actually as it sits next to the K3. :-) but I sure would love a larger K3. 73, Andy http://gd0tep.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Big box K3
I don't really have a horse in this race because I am personally very happy with my K3 (#693) and, knowing that Wayne's Engineering degree included emphasis on Engineering Ergonomics, I am satisfied that he has given us the best possible radio in the form factor that is most popular to most people who represent his target market. However, while there is nothing wrong with dreaming and asking for changes, I wonder how many of the Big Box k3 requesters have considered the magnitude of the effort required on Elecraft's part to deliver such a thing. First, the job would not be as trivial as simply re-packaging the insides in a bigger box. It would involve the design and testing of a new RF board and front panel in order to remove controls and displays to a different front panel (which would also have to be designed and tested) and to remove ports to a different back panel. Internal cable routing, shielding, and structural support would have to be altered with consequent testing as well. Cramming the P3, KPA500, and a power supply inside would only complicate things further. Also, because functions would have to be removed from menus and associated with front panel hardware, the firmware would have to be rewritten, which would require two versions to be maintained in parallel and alpha/beta tested for each release to keep them in sync. Elecraft is a small company, and most of the design and programming is done by only a couple of people whose jobs would grow enormously, and which would deprive other, more critical projects of their time and effort. Second, how much would the Big Box people be willing to pay for the upgrade, and how many could Elecraft expect to sell? My guess is that in order to amortize the time and materials to develop such an upgrade given the considerations above, each unit could cost as much as the K3 itself (possibly more depending on expected sales volume), which could bring it into the price range of some of the big iron with which it favorably competes, both cost- and feature-wise. I suspect that there would not be many takers at those prices. I'm sorry that some of the current owners of K3s seem to be disappointed in it. Every engineering project is a trade-off, and I think that Wayne and Eric represent the Burt Rutans of the radio world. Given that, I don't think that even Burt Rutan would consider adapting a VariEze (K2) or a Starship (K3) into an AirBus form factor, and I doubt that very many customers would buy one. 73 de Steve, NN0B -Original Message- From: Nicholas Farrar [mailto:nfar...@bfpacs.com] Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 7:32 PM To: elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] Big box K3 * So stop making noise just to be heard. What Im asking for would affect you anti-changer zero. And we all got it a few post back Phil... you dont like change fine. Then if you dont have any thing constructive to add, don't play. Some of us do want something new. Something more. The K3 is GREAT! But even the Queen of England could stand to refine herself a bit more. The beauty of what Im asking for in not the end of the K3. Its just enhancement. Why do some people fly off the handle of something so small. Take your toys and go home. Dont spoil our party on the idea of a larger K3(K3A). Phil Hystad* phystad at mac.com elecraft%40mailman.qth.net?Subject=Re:%20%5BElecraft%5D%20Big%20box%20K3In -Reply-To=%3C86842DC2-2AE9-4C26-95C1-77ED5E41E630%40mac.com%3E *Mon Aug 9 21:13:21 EDT 2010* - Previous message: [Elecraft] Big Box K-3http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/2010-August/134407.html - *Messages sorted by:* [ date ]http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/2010-August/date.html#134408 [ thread ]http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/2010-August/thread.html#134408 [ subject ]http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/2010-August/subject.html#134408 [ author ]http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/2010-August/author.html#134408 -- It seems to be that a bigger K3 is a different radio then the K3 and should be called something different. No, not even K3A or whatever. I probably would not buy one though. I like my K3 as it is. If there is some great new technology that is embraced by Elecraft that does not fit the K3, then maybe it is time for a K4. If that is in a bigger box, then so be it if that is needed. But, to have a bigger box merely to use space is not my obsession. I think the IC-7800 and the FT-9000 whatever are in very big boxes. When I first saw the FT-9000 my first thought was No, I don't want that. I am surprised Eric hasn't put the kibosh to this thread -- maybe they are listening to the comments. If you are, I vote for status quo. PEH -- Nicholas W. Farrar Network Engineer / IT Coordinator Brown Folse PACS nfar...@bfpacs.com Office 318-595-0451 Mobile 318-381-9863 Fax 866-248-6128 __ Elecraft mailing list Home:
[Elecraft] Big K3
Nicholas Farrar said: But even the Queen of England could stand to refine herself a bit more. _ WHAT? To us loyal subjects of Her Majesty, that is like saying that the US Constitution is imperfect. Unthinkable. Elizabeth II has lasted a lot longer, with a a lot fewer screwups, than any other Head of State I can think of, with the possible exception of FD Roosevelt or Harry Truman. We are glad to have her. Her children, however, especially that dork Charles, are another matter... __ Anyhow, kidding aside [you have to expect some ribbing about your unlawful insurrection against your Lawful Sovereign] I agree with you on the Big K3. It is not the Little K3 vs. the Big one, Elecraft could offer both. And it is not a K4 - just a K3 with a more roomy front panel and bigger displays. Maybe the big panel could even plug into the Little K3, so we could leave the big panel at home and take the Little K3 with us on trips. eric VA7DZ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] P3 Manual Rev A3
I am getting an error message when attempting to open Rev A3 of the P3 Manual (10 August 2010) saying that the file is corrupt. I've tried several times. Do others find the same? David -- David G4DMP Leeds, England, UK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] P3 #40 is alive and well.
P3 #40 arrived today at 11AM and is alive and well. Great job Elecraft! No hitch or glich. Dan AB3EN - Dan AB3EN -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-40-is-alive-and-well-tp5394332p5394332.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Storing frequencies and bandwidth
Dave, Joe does make a good point about the $99 price of such a device. And the stick and small pad offered by X-Keys does seem to offer a possible solution to those wanting to add macro and general function buttons to their K3. The roadblock for me and probably many others would be how to integrate the device into your Mac/DigiKeyer, my PC/WriteLog, another person's PC/MiwW, etc.. Hopefully a computer savvy person will have a go at it and make the solution available to others. 73, Mike K2MK M0XDF wrote: Joe, how would I use X-keys (say a stick) on a Mac running OSX 10.6.4 via a DigiKeyer? 73 de M0XDF And you think Elecraft can produce something in small quantities at a price competitive with a larger market product, sell it to a subset of the 5000 K3 owners at a lower price than the equivalent commercial product and make a reasonable profit? Believe me, I looked into a 12 button external box and it wasn't feasible for the $100 price of one of the Xkeys sticks. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 8/10/2010 11:04 AM, K2MK wrote: Hi Joe, Looks good, but if Elecraft made it, it would be perfectly integrated with the K3. It could be programmed from the K3 Utility Program and would not require other software to be running for it to work. 73, Mike K2MK -- From: Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 10:50 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; k...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Storing frequencies and bandwidth An outboard appliance containing programmable buttons would be useful. Available now with X-Keys (www.xkeys.com) devices as long as you are using a computer. X-Keys devices could be programmed to generate K3 macros which can be combined with Logger control using the Enterlogic VSPE (Free) or similar software. The VSPE function is built into microHAM Router (for those using microHAM keyer interfaces). One only needs one of the X-Keys keyboards or button bars (PS/2 or USB) and an application to translate the button presses to macro commands. An external device (no computer) would not be that difficult to build using a PIC and USB keypad. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 8/10/2010 10:11 AM, Mike K2MK wrote: An outboard appliance containing programmable buttons would be useful. For example, I'll push SPOT hundreds of times during a contest. A small pod that I could position on the left side of my computer keyboard would be nice. Bandwidth selection from the pod would be a real bonus. 73, Mike K2MK -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Big-Box-K-3-tp5391253p5394338.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Big box K3
Given that, I don't think that even Burt Rutan would consider adapting a VariEze (K2) or a Starship (K3) into an AirBus form factor ... Seems like a bad choice for an example. Burt did create the Long-EZ, a larger version of the VariEze. Mark On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Steve Harvey n...@embarqmail.com wrote: I don't really have a horse in this race because I am personally very happy with my K3 (#693) and, knowing that Wayne's Engineering degree included emphasis on Engineering Ergonomics, I am satisfied that he has given us the best possible radio in the form factor that is most popular to most people who represent his target market. However, while there is nothing wrong with dreaming and asking for changes, I wonder how many of the Big Box k3 requesters have considered the magnitude of the effort required on Elecraft's part to deliver such a thing. First, the job would not be as trivial as simply re-packaging the insides in a bigger box. It would involve the design and testing of a new RF board and front panel in order to remove controls and displays to a different front panel (which would also have to be designed and tested) and to remove ports to a different back panel. Internal cable routing, shielding, and structural support would have to be altered with consequent testing as well. Cramming the P3, KPA500, and a power supply inside would only complicate things further. Also, because functions would have to be removed from menus and associated with front panel hardware, the firmware would have to be rewritten, which would require two versions to be maintained in parallel and alpha/beta tested for each release to keep them in sync. Elecraft is a small company, and most of the design and programming is done by only a couple of people whose jobs would grow enormously, and which would deprive other, more critical projects of their time and effort. Second, how much would the Big Box people be willing to pay for the upgrade, and how many could Elecraft expect to sell? My guess is that in order to amortize the time and materials to develop such an upgrade given the considerations above, each unit could cost as much as the K3 itself (possibly more depending on expected sales volume), which could bring it into the price range of some of the big iron with which it favorably competes, both cost- and feature-wise. I suspect that there would not be many takers at those prices. I'm sorry that some of the current owners of K3s seem to be disappointed in it. Every engineering project is a trade-off, and I think that Wayne and Eric represent the Burt Rutans of the radio world. Given that, I don't think that even Burt Rutan would consider adapting a VariEze (K2) or a Starship (K3) into an AirBus form factor, and I doubt that very many customers would buy one. 73 de Steve, NN0B __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] who got P3 sn 44???
It is not. Dick, K6KR I wonder if the SN is programmed into the P3 firmware like it is in the K3? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 - OK - who has P3 #83? Got #54
Shame on Ken for starting all this and shame on me for yielding to peer pressure. Got #54, want #83 - - - K3/100 #83 is lonely for it's sibling! Reply off list - thanks - Don N4HH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] One small quibble K3
Frequently, when I am hunting for something about my K3, I already have two monitors full of other stuff, which is why my remark purposely applied only to the printed manual. 73, Pete N4ZR The World Contest Station Database, updated daily at www.conteststations.com The Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog at reversebeacon.blogspot.com, spots at telnet.reversebeacon.net, port 7000 On 8/10/2010 9:17 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: This has been covered here many times, but download the PDF version and you can search the PDF... http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3_Owner's_Manual_Rev_D7.pdf - high res version http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3_Owner's_Manual_Rev_D7sm.pdf - web res version poke around the Elecraft site, lots of valuable PDF and other downloads available. 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 Manual Rev A3
Same here. 73, Ken K3IU ~~ On 8/10/2010 2:30 PM, David Pratt wrote: I am getting an error message when attempting to open Rev A3 of the P3 Manual (10 August 2010) saying that the file is corrupt. I've tried several times. Do others find the same? David __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Guy N7UN/5 operating portable in NM
Just worked (1908Z) Guy N7UN/5 who was atop Greenie Peak in NM on 14061 kHz with his K2. Good signal here - not sure how long he'll be on the air. http://www.mountainzone.com/mountains/detail.asp?fid=4384356 John Harper http://www.ae5x.com/blog __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 Manual Rev A3
Yep same here, cannot download the P3 manual, corrupt file that can not be repaired. Merv K9FD Same here. 73, Ken K3IU ~~ On 8/10/2010 2:30 PM, David Pratt wrote: I am getting an error message when attempting to open Rev A3 of the P3 Manual (10 August 2010) saying that the file is corrupt. I've tried several times. Do others find the same? David __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] One small quibble K3
Pete Smith N4ZR wrote: Frequently, when I am hunting for something about my K3, I already have two monitors full of other stuff, which is why my remark purposely applied only to the printed manual. Minimize the other stuff and search with Adobe Find box. This is the only way to go as a printed index will never be as comprehensive as a full document search, not to mention possibly being out of date. BTW no problem here with the P3 Rev. A3 manual using the latest Acrobat Reader 9.3.3. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/One-small-quibble-K3-tp5392599p5396314.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Amplifier
Depends on the Amplifier, I have a SPE Expert 1K-FA.10watts drive = 500 watts out Jack W4GRJ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Lyle Johnson Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:33 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Amplifier ...I presently have a K3 10 and am wondering if the 10 watts will be enough to kick the new amp Yes, it will. You'll likely get more than 100 watts but less than 200 watts output with 10 watts of drive. If you want the full 500+ watts, then you'll probably need 30W to 40W of drive. 73, Lyle KK7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 Manual Rev A3
Yes, I am not able to open it either. Adobe says the file is damaged and can't be repaired. Todd, WA7U -- From: David Pratt da...@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 12:30 PM To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Manual Rev A3 I am getting an error message when attempting to open Rev A3 of the P3 Manual (10 August 2010) saying that the file is corrupt. I've tried several times. Do others find the same? David -- David G4DMP Leeds, England, UK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - OK - who has P3 #83? Got #54
Good Grief!Grin Comedy relief on this reflector can sometimes exceed brilliance. Now to try and heal my sore ribs from laughing. 73's Gary On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 4:38 AM, Don Nesbitt n...@yahoo.com wrote: Shame on Ken for starting all this and shame on me for yielding to peer pressure. Got #54, want #83 - - - K3/100 #83 is lonely for it's sibling! Reply off list - thanks - Don N4HH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile http://www.qsl.net/vk4fd/ K3 #679 For everything else there's Mastercard!!! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 Manual Rev A3
I downloaded 9.3 (newest one) of Adobe Reader and STILL get the file error too. 73, Don, WB5HAK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - OK - who has P3 #83? Got #54
I got #99. I'm happy with it and don't want to trade, HI. Also, I could make it 66, by simply reversing the tag, but I won't confuse that owner!!! 73, Don, WB5HAK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 Manual Rev A3
Are you using Google chrome? I have had similar problems when using Chrome, but no problem with Explorer. There is also an option that can be set in Adobe Reader to open in a new window rather than in the browser, that seems to work if one wants to use Chrome. 73 - Mike WA8BXN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 Manual Rev A3
I just tried the download and got the same error message here also. Not seen this before. Gary On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 6:02 AM, Mike WA8BXN hubb...@hotmail.com wrote: Are you using Google chrome? I have had similar problems when using Chrome, but no problem with Explorer. There is also an option that can be set in Adobe Reader to open in a new window rather than in the browser, that seems to work if one wants to use Chrome. 73 - Mike WA8BXN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile http://www.qsl.net/vk4fd/ K3 #679 For everything else there's Mastercard!!! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 Manual Rev A3
I'm able to download 651KB of the file then I get the File is damaged and unable to repair error. I'm able to download all other manuals without issues. Using IE 8. W4CCS On 8/10/2010 4:02 PM, Mike WA8BXN wrote: Are you using Google chrome? I have had similar problems when using Chrome, but no problem with Explorer. There is also an option that can be set in Adobe Reader to open in a new window rather than in the browser, that seems to work if one wants to use Chrome. 73 - Mike WA8BXN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Amplifier
If the SPE does that, which is 17dB gain, then it does not conform to FCC rules that limit gain to 15dB. Bob, N6CM On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 12:37 PM, W4GRJ w4...@satterfield.org wrote: Depends on the Amplifier, I have a SPE Expert 1K-FA.10watts drive = 500 watts out Jack W4GRJ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Lyle Johnson Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:33 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Amplifier ...I presently have a K3 10 and am wondering if the 10 watts will be enough to kick the new amp Yes, it will. You'll likely get more than 100 watts but less than 200 watts output with 10 watts of drive. If you want the full 500+ watts, then you'll probably need 30W to 40W of drive. 73, Lyle KK7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - OK - who has P3 #83? Got #54
Sadly, I won't be able to order a P3 for many years. I wonder how many years it'll take for them to sell 4400+ of them. 73 - Gary / k3wow, k34407 On Aug 10, 2010, at 3:56 PM, Don Cunningham wrote: I got #99. I'm happy with it and don't want to trade, HI. Also, I could make it 66, by simply reversing the tag, but I won't confuse that owner!!! 73, Don, WB5HAK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 Manual Rev A3
Looks like its some other problem from what I described I have seen with PDF files and Chrome. I tried to download with Chrome and Explorer and got the same error. The Elecraft web site says the file is 2.5 MB in size, but the during the download the size was around 655 KB, so I suspect now there is a problem with the file on the server. 73 - Mike WA8BXN ---Original Message--- From: Gary Gregory Date: 8/10/2010 4:05:53 PM To: Mike WA8BXN Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; Don Cunningham Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Manual Rev A3 I just tried the download and got the same error message here also. Not seen this before. Gary On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 6:02 AM, Mike WA8BXN hubb...@hotmail.com wrote: Are you using Google chrome? I have had similar problems when using Chrome, But no problem with Explorer. There is also an option that can be set in Adobe Reader to open in a new window rather than in the browser, that seems To work if one wants to use Chrome. 73 - Mike WA8BXN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile http://www.qsl.net/vk4fd/ K3 #679 For everything else there's Mastercard!!! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Amplifier
And yet they certified it. http://www.radio-ham.eu/Download/FCC-Certification.pdf On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Robert Friess rfri...@usa.net wrote: If the SPE does that, which is 17dB gain, then it does not conform to FCC rules that limit gain to 15dB. Bob, N6CM On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 12:37 PM, W4GRJ w4...@satterfield.org wrote: Depends on the Amplifier, I have a SPE Expert 1K-FA.10watts drive = 500 watts out Jack W4GRJ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Lyle Johnson Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:33 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Amplifier ...I presently have a K3 10 and am wondering if the 10 watts will be enough to kick the new amp Yes, it will. You'll likely get more than 100 watts but less than 200 watts output with 10 watts of drive. If you want the full 500+ watts, then you'll probably need 30W to 40W of drive. 73, Lyle KK7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Amplifier
Does any one know if the KPA500 has been certified yet? Phil Philip LaMarche LaMarche Enterprises, Inc p...@lamarcheenterprises.com www.LaMarcheEnterprises.com 727-944-3226 727-937-8834 Fax 727-510-5038 Cell www.w9dvm.com K3 #1605 CCA 98-00827 CRA 1701 W9DVM -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tim Tucker Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:31 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Amplifier And yet they certified it. http://www.radio-ham.eu/Download/FCC-Certification.pdf On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Robert Friess rfri...@usa.net wrote: If the SPE does that, which is 17dB gain, then it does not conform to FCC rules that limit gain to 15dB. Bob, N6CM On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 12:37 PM, W4GRJ w4...@satterfield.org wrote: Depends on the Amplifier, I have a SPE Expert 1K-FA.10watts drive = 500 watts out Jack W4GRJ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Lyle Johnson Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:33 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Amplifier ...I presently have a K3 10 and am wondering if the 10 watts will be enough to kick the new amp Yes, it will. You'll likely get more than 100 watts but less than 200 watts output with 10 watts of drive. If you want the full 500+ watts, then you'll probably need 30W to 40W of drive. 73, Lyle KK7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 Manual Rev A3
I can't download on a Mac either - tells me the file may be corrupted. 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- I don't mind that you think slowly but I do mind that you are publishing faster than you think. -Wolfgang Pauli, physicist, Nobel laureate (1900-1958) On 10 Aug 2010, at 21:30, Mike WA8BXN wrote: Looks like its some other problem from what I described I have seen with PDF files and Chrome. I tried to download with Chrome and Explorer and got the same error. The Elecraft web site says the file is 2.5 MB in size, but the during the download the size was around 655 KB, so I suspect now there is a problem with the file on the server. 73 - Mike WA8BXN ---Original Message--- From: Gary Gregory Date: 8/10/2010 4:05:53 PM To: Mike WA8BXN Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; Don Cunningham Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Manual Rev A3 I just tried the download and got the same error message here also. Not seen this before. Gary On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 6:02 AM, Mike WA8BXN hubb...@hotmail.com wrote: Are you using Google chrome? I have had similar problems when using Chrome, But no problem with Explorer. There is also an option that can be set in Adobe Reader to open in a new window rather than in the browser, that seems To work if one wants to use Chrome. 73 - Mike WA8BXN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile http://www.qsl.net/vk4fd/ K3 #679 For everything else there's Mastercard!!! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Power supply
How much would you be willing to pay for an internal uninterruptible PS in the P3? Let's see: Working from what we already know . . . Gamma Research HPS-1a is $169 According to Ron AC7AC there is only 4x4x6 space available in the P3, so keeping that as a limiting factor, even the following LiFePO4 battery pack would fit in: Powerizer's 12.8v (working; 14.6v peak; 10v cutoff) 9.9aH (127WH at 21amp) LiFePO4 battery pack (4S3P) 2lbs, 4.3x3.3x3.4 [since LiFePO4 batteries allow full power operation through more than 95% of its capacity, this pack would allow for significant operational time at 100w. Also note this technologies reputation for safety (no fire or explosion risk), 10+ year lifespan with thousands of full discharge/charge cycles, and quick recharge times.]Current Price = $154 [$139 in quantity] Of course, one might not need anything nearly as large as this battery pack for the intended function! Powerizer also lists a 6.6aH pack for $75. So one could reasonably surmise that it should be possible to sell an internal P3 PS along the lines suggested for somewhere between $175 to $350. At anything like these prices, I would buy it without hesitation. 73 John N6JW WILLIS COOKE-2 wrote: How much would you be willing to pay? $300, $500? Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ JOHN SAID Elecraft could design a small (RFI quiet) switching PS which would constantly recharge an appropriately sized LiFePO4 battery pack, which in turn would supply the power needed by the K3/P3 combo (i.e. 25 amps). In effect this would replace the large caps in the HPS-1a design, with the LiPo battery. Bottom line: a universal voltage uninterruptible internal PS. I agree, and more to the point -- I would buy one. eric VA7DZ -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Elecraft-Power-supply-tp5388972p5404591.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Guy N7UN/5 operating portable in NM
John Harper wrote: Just worked (1908Z) Guy N7UN/5 who was atop Greenie Peak in NM on 14061 kHz with his K2. Good signal here - not sure how long he'll be on the air. http://www.mountainzone.com/mountains/detail.asp?fid=4384356 It was a SOTA activation of W5/SS-015, good for 10 SOTA points. He was signing N7UN/0 for some reason. www.sota.org.uk 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2010 Cal QSO Party 2-3 Oct 2010 - www.cqp.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Amplifier
Depends on the Amplifier, I have a SPE Expert 1K-FA.10watts drive = 500 watts out http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr;sid=f338c42916def7b9976d97732e60ec83;rgn=div8;view=text;node=47%3A5.0.1.1.6.4.157.9;idno=47;cc=ecfr § 97.317 Standards for certification of external RF power amplifiers. (a) To receive a grant of certification, the amplifier must: (1) Satisfy the spurious emission standards of §97.307 (d) or (e) of this part, as applicable, when the amplifier is operated at the lesser of 1.5 kW PEP or its full output power and when the amplifier is placed in the standby or off positions while connected to the transmitter. (2) Not be capable of amplifying the input RF power (driving signal) by more than 15 dB gain. Gain is defined as the ratio of the input RF power to the output RF power of the amplifier where both power measurements are expressed in peak envelope power or mean power. (3) Exhibit no amplification (0 dB gain) between 26 MHz and 28 MHz. (b) Certification shall be denied when: (1) The Commission determines the amplifier can be used in services other than the Amateur Radio Service, or (2) The amplifier can be easily modified to operate on frequencies between 26 MHz and 28 MHz. [71 FR 66465, Nov. 15, 2006] __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Amplifier
If it has, it hasn't hit the FCC website yet. I just searched. On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Phil LaMarche plama...@verizon.net wrote: Does any one know if the KPA500 has been certified yet? Phil Philip LaMarche LaMarche Enterprises, Inc p...@lamarcheenterprises.com www.LaMarcheEnterprises.com 727-944-3226 727-937-8834 Fax 727-510-5038 Cell www.w9dvm.com K3 #1605 CCA 98-00827 CRA 1701 W9DVM -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tim Tucker Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:31 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Amplifier And yet they certified it. http://www.radio-ham.eu/Download/FCC-Certification.pdf On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Robert Friess rfri...@usa.net wrote: If the SPE does that, which is 17dB gain, then it does not conform to FCC rules that limit gain to 15dB. Bob, N6CM On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 12:37 PM, W4GRJ w4...@satterfield.org wrote: Depends on the Amplifier, I have a SPE Expert 1K-FA.10watts drive = 500 watts out Jack W4GRJ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Lyle Johnson Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:33 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Amplifier ...I presently have a K3 10 and am wondering if the 10 watts will be enough to kick the new amp Yes, it will. You'll likely get more than 100 watts but less than 200 watts output with 10 watts of drive. If you want the full 500+ watts, then you'll probably need 30W to 40W of drive. 73, Lyle KK7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Power supply
Don't forget the caveat I offered with that space size - I've yet to see a square millimeter in a cabinet that Wayne didn't disclose a planned use for by the time the product reached maturity :-) Take a peek at the inside of a fully-loaded KX1, K2 or K3 for an example. Tnx for the Powerizer lead. That might be just what I need (assuming Elecraft doesn't come up with a magic E solution). Ron AC7AC -Original Message- How much would you be willing to pay for an internal uninterruptible PS in the P3? Let's see: Working from what we already know . . . Gamma Research HPS-1a is $169 According to Ron AC7AC there is only 4x4x6 space available in the P3, so keeping that as a limiting factor, even the following LiFePO4 battery pack would fit in: Powerizer's 12.8v (working; 14.6v peak; 10v cutoff) 9.9aH (127WH at 21amp) LiFePO4 battery pack (4S3P) 2lbs, 4.3x3.3x3.4 [since LiFePO4 batteries allow full power operation through more than 95% of its capacity, this pack would allow for significant operational time at 100w. Also note this technologies reputation for safety (no fire or explosion risk), 10+ year lifespan with thousands of full discharge/charge cycles, and quick recharge times.]Current Price = $154 [$139 in quantity] Of course, one might not need anything nearly as large as this battery pack for the intended function! Powerizer also lists a 6.6aH pack for $75. So one could reasonably surmise that it should be possible to sell an internal P3 PS along the lines suggested for somewhere between $175 to $350. At anything like these prices, I would buy it without hesitation. 73 John N6JW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] P3 Manual Rev A3 Download Problems Being Fixed
The Elecraft webmaster has been alerted. He's working on it now. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Ferrington, M0XDF Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:44 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Manual Rev A3 I can't download on a Mac either - tells me the file may be corrupted. 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Fwd: Fwd: P3 Manual Rev A3 corrupted - more
Thanks for the feedback, folks! The P3 Owner's Manual Rev A3 link has been fixed and will now download correctly. 73, Brian, W6FVI P3 Production Manager Elecraft,Inc. Original Message Subject:Re: [Elecraft] P3 Manual Rev A3 Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 21:44:19 +0100 From: David Ferrington, M0XDF m0...@alphadene.co.uk To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net I can't download on a Mac either - tells me the file may be corrupted. 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- I don't mind that you think slowly but I do mind that you are publishing faster than you think. -Wolfgang Pauli, physicist, Nobel laureate (1900-1958) On 10 Aug 2010, at 21:30, Mike WA8BXN wrote: Looks like its some other problem from what I described I have seen with PDF files and Chrome. I tried to download with Chrome and Explorer and got the same error. The Elecraft web site says the file is 2.5 MB in size, but the during the download the size was around 655 KB, so I suspect now there is a problem with the file on the server. 73 - Mike WA8BXN ---Original Message--- From: Gary Gregory Date: 8/10/2010 4:05:53 PM To: Mike WA8BXN Cc:elecraft@mailman.qth.net; Don Cunningham Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Manual Rev A3 I just tried the download and got the same error message here also. Not seen this before. Gary On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 6:02 AM, Mike WA8BXNhubb...@hotmail.com wrote: Are you using Google chrome? I have had similar problems when using Chrome, But no problem with Explorer. There is also an option that can be set in Adobe Reader to open in a new window rather than in the browser, that seems To work if one wants to use Chrome. 73 - Mike WA8BXN __ Elecraft mailing list Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list:http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile http://www.qsl.net/vk4fd/ K3 #679 For everything else there's Mastercard!!! __ Elecraft mailing list Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list:http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list:http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: Fwd: P3 Manual Rev A3 corrupted - more
Yhanks Brian, all worked FB now. Gary On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Brian br...@elecraft.com wrote: Thanks for the feedback, folks! The P3 Owner's Manual Rev A3 link has been fixed and will now download correctly. 73, Brian, W6FVI P3 Production Manager Elecraft,Inc. Original Message Subject:Re: [Elecraft] P3 Manual Rev A3 Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 21:44:19 +0100 From: David Ferrington, M0XDF m0...@alphadene.co.uk To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net I can't download on a Mac either - tells me the file may be corrupted. 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- I don't mind that you think slowly but I do mind that you are publishing faster than you think. -Wolfgang Pauli, physicist, Nobel laureate (1900-1958) On 10 Aug 2010, at 21:30, Mike WA8BXN wrote: Looks like its some other problem from what I described I have seen with PDF files and Chrome. I tried to download with Chrome and Explorer and got the same error. The Elecraft web site says the file is 2.5 MB in size, but the during the download the size was around 655 KB, so I suspect now there is a problem with the file on the server. 73 - Mike WA8BXN ---Original Message--- From: Gary Gregory Date: 8/10/2010 4:05:53 PM To: Mike WA8BXN Cc:elecraft@mailman.qth.net cc%3aelecr...@mailman.qth.net; Don Cunningham Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Manual Rev A3 I just tried the download and got the same error message here also. Not seen this before. Gary On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 6:02 AM, Mike WA8BXNhubb...@hotmail.com wrote: Are you using Google chrome? I have had similar problems when using Chrome, But no problem with Explorer. There is also an option that can be set in Adobe Reader to open in a new window rather than in the browser, that seems To work if one wants to use Chrome. 73 - Mike WA8BXN __ Elecraft mailing list Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list:http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile http://www.qsl.net/vk4fd/ K3 #679 For everything else there's Mastercard!!! __ Elecraft mailing list Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list:http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list:http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile http://www.qsl.net/vk4fd/ K3 #679 For everything else there's Mastercard!!! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: Fwd: P3 Manual Rev A3 corrupted - more
Good Grief...me thinks the correct spelling is ThanksArgh!! On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 7:29 AM, Gary Gregory garyvk...@gmail.com wrote: Yhanks Brian, all worked FB now. Gary On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Brian br...@elecraft.com wrote: Thanks for the feedback, folks! The P3 Owner's Manual Rev A3 link has been fixed and will now download correctly. 73, Brian, W6FVI P3 Production Manager Elecraft,Inc. Original Message Subject:Re: [Elecraft] P3 Manual Rev A3 Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 21:44:19 +0100 From: David Ferrington, M0XDF m0...@alphadene.co.uk To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net I can't download on a Mac either - tells me the file may be corrupted. 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- I don't mind that you think slowly but I do mind that you are publishing faster than you think. -Wolfgang Pauli, physicist, Nobel laureate (1900-1958) On 10 Aug 2010, at 21:30, Mike WA8BXN wrote: Looks like its some other problem from what I described I have seen with PDF files and Chrome. I tried to download with Chrome and Explorer and got the same error. The Elecraft web site says the file is 2.5 MB in size, but the during the download the size was around 655 KB, so I suspect now there is a problem with the file on the server. 73 - Mike WA8BXN ---Original Message--- From: Gary Gregory Date: 8/10/2010 4:05:53 PM To: Mike WA8BXN Cc:elecraft@mailman.qth.net cc%3aelecr...@mailman.qth.net; Don Cunningham Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Manual Rev A3 I just tried the download and got the same error message here also. Not seen this before. Gary On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 6:02 AM, Mike WA8BXNhubb...@hotmail.com wrote: Are you using Google chrome? I have had similar problems when using Chrome, But no problem with Explorer. There is also an option that can be set in Adobe Reader to open in a new window rather than in the browser, that seems To work if one wants to use Chrome. 73 - Mike WA8BXN __ Elecraft mailing list Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list:http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile http://www.qsl.net/vk4fd/ K3 #679 For everything else there's Mastercard!!! __ Elecraft mailing list Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list:http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list:http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile http://www.qsl.net/vk4fd/ K3 #679 For everything else there's Mastercard!!! -- Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile http://www.qsl.net/vk4fd/ K3 #679 For everything else there's Mastercard!!! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: Fwd: P3 Manual Rev A3 corrupted - more
Brian, Is there somewhere to read what the changes are in these manuals that I have just missed?? I'd hate to print the A3 manual only to find a change so small I could have just written it in my old A2 version, hi. Thanks, Don, WB5HAK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 Manual Rev A3 Download Problems Being Fixed
As of 5:40 EDT I was able to download it (open it) without any problem in Firefox (Vista/64). 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 8/10/2010 5:16 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: The Elecraft webmaster has been alerted. He's working on it now. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Ferrington, M0XDF Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:44 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Manual Rev A3 I can't download on a Mac either - tells me the file may be corrupted. 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Big box K3
True, but it's a different airplane--not a VariEze with a larger fuselage wrapped around it. 73 de nn0b, Steve -Original Message- From: Mark Bayern [mailto:plcm...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 12:37 PM To: Steve Harvey Cc: elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Big box K3 Given that, I don't think that even Burt Rutan would consider adapting a VariEze (K2) or a Starship (K3) into an AirBus form factor ... Seems like a bad choice for an example. Burt did create the Long-EZ, a larger version of the VariEze. Mark On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Steve Harvey n...@embarqmail.com wrote: I don't really have a horse in this race because I am personally very happy with my K3 (#693) and, knowing that Wayne's Engineering degree included emphasis on Engineering Ergonomics, I am satisfied that he has given us the best possible radio in the form factor that is most popular to most people who represent his target market. However, while there is nothing wrong with dreaming and asking for changes, I wonder how many of the Big Box k3 requesters have considered the magnitude of the effort required on Elecraft's part to deliver such a thing. First, the job would not be as trivial as simply re-packaging the insides in a bigger box. It would involve the design and testing of a new RF board and front panel in order to remove controls and displays to a different front panel (which would also have to be designed and tested) and to remove ports to a different back panel. Internal cable routing, shielding, and structural support would have to be altered with consequent testing as well. Cramming the P3, KPA500, and a power supply inside would only complicate things further. Also, because functions would have to be removed from menus and associated with front panel hardware, the firmware would have to be rewritten, which would require two versions to be maintained in parallel and alpha/beta tested for each release to keep them in sync. Elecraft is a small company, and most of the design and programming is done by only a couple of people whose jobs would grow enormously, and which would deprive other, more critical projects of their time and effort. Second, how much would the Big Box people be willing to pay for the upgrade, and how many could Elecraft expect to sell? My guess is that in order to amortize the time and materials to develop such an upgrade given the considerations above, each unit could cost as much as the K3 itself (possibly more depending on expected sales volume), which could bring it into the price range of some of the big iron with which it favorably competes, both cost- and feature-wise. I suspect that there would not be many takers at those prices. I'm sorry that some of the current owners of K3s seem to be disappointed in it. Every engineering project is a trade-off, and I think that Wayne and Eric represent the Burt Rutans of the radio world. Given that, I don't think that even Burt Rutan would consider adapting a VariEze (K2) or a Starship (K3) into an AirBus form factor, and I doubt that very many customers would buy one. 73 de Steve, NN0B __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Amplifier
$2200 David G3UNA and does anybody have an idea how many dollar$ ? Sorry if this was already covered. A happy K3 owner Rich KC8HMJ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Power supply
The rigs most of us remember with matching power supplies - the Collins, Heathkits, etc.- HAD to have custom power supplies designed to provide specific voltages and the specific currents needed. That went away with the advent of the rigs designed to run from 13.8 VDC. Ron AC7AC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] P3 Manual Rev A3 changes
Took a quick look at the rev A3 manual after using rev A2 last night to assemble and test the P3. As far as I can tell, the only difference is the addition of a Servicing the P3 section at the end of the rev A3 version. Talks about removing the covers, cleaning the bezel, replacing the display, etc. 73 Craig AC0DS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 Manual Rev A3 changes
There are some other changes in the operating section. Here's a summary of the significant changes: 1) Incorporated outstanding errata A2-1. 2) Integrated Appendices into main document to allow better cross-referencing between sections. 3) Added Servicing section including one page of notes for -F owners about how to remove/replace individual boards, how to clean the bezel safely and one page of detailed instructions for removing/replacing the LCD panel (pgs 37, 38). 4) Added instruction to perform frequency calibration for best accuracy to Quick Start Basics (pg 5). 5) Added explanation of changing baud rates to Rear Panel connectors/RS232 on page 13 6) Edited first para under Programmable Functions to note that FM REV cannot be assigned to a key. 7) Fixed typo in the last line of the first para under Using Markers changing upper sideband to lower sideband. 8) Added note to warm up transceiver and P3 for 30 minutes before doing the calibration (pg 19). 9) Under Menu Functions , DispTest changed instruction to read Tap MENU to exit. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- Took a quick look at the rev A3 manual after using rev A2 last night to assemble and test the P3. As far as I can tell, the only difference is the addition of a Servicing the P3 section at the end of the rev A3 version. Talks about removing the covers, cleaning the bezel, replacing the display, etc. 73 Craig AC0DS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Amplifier
Huh? I thought that was illegal? ~Brett (N7MG) On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 12:37 PM, W4GRJ w4...@satterfield.org wrote: Depends on the Amplifier, I have a SPE Expert 1K-FA.10watts drive = 500 watts out Jack W4GRJ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Lyle Johnson Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:33 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Amplifier ...I presently have a K3 10 and am wondering if the 10 watts will be enough to kick the new amp Yes, it will. You'll likely get more than 100 watts but less than 200 watts output with 10 watts of drive. If you want the full 500+ watts, then you'll probably need 30W to 40W of drive. 73, Lyle KK7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Amplifier
The Expert 1K-FA is FCC Certified.maybe my meter is not accurate In any event, I am sorry I ever commented on this reflector with such responses. Jack W4GRJ -Original Message- From: Brett Howard [mailto:br...@livecomputers.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 8:48 PM To: W4GRJ Cc: Lyle Johnson; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Amplifier Huh? I thought that was illegal? ~Brett (N7MG) On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 12:37 PM, W4GRJ w4...@satterfield.org wrote: Depends on the Amplifier, I have a SPE Expert 1K-FA.10watts drive = 500 watts out Jack W4GRJ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Lyle Johnson Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:33 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Amplifier ...I presently have a K3 10 and am wondering if the 10 watts will be enough to kick the new amp Yes, it will. You'll likely get more than 100 watts but less than 200 watts output with 10 watts of drive. If you want the full 500+ watts, then you'll probably need 30W to 40W of drive. 73, Lyle KK7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
