Re: [Elecraft] Musings on a K4
On 26 July 2011 03:34, Wayne Burdick wrote: > If there's ever a K4, it'll be a game-changer, or we won't bother. > > As of right now we're very happy with the K3, thank you :) > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > My bank manager has just heaved a sigh of relief! 73, Stephen G4SJP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] [K2] Paranoid question
I made a disaster in cutting wires for windings of T4 binocular core. I now have not enough white wire for the work. The paranoid question isare the green and the white wires supplied with K2 kit the same??? Cause i have enough green wire for the 3 windings should be white and anough white wire for the windings should be green! Tnx as usual IZ2NYY Giuseppe "Pippo" Sorrentino Milano ITALY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Musings on a K4
Yes, a game changer: Small 2x2x3 inch block containing an organic computer with 78-GHz waveguide flange with something like radiating fiberoptic interface to a set of eyeglasses with LCD display and direct aural nerve docking interface so one would only need to think the words which would be converted into Quantum-modulation. Question is will it be ham radio? oooweee beam me up! 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 == BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com EME: 50-1.1kw?, 144-1.4kw, 432-100w, 1296-60w, 3400-? DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@gmail.com == __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Headphones & Speaker settings - no speaker OP
Thanks but I left out one important fact for you, the LH radio speaker works fine when SPKR+PH = YES, and I get both headphones and speaker output. Part of the problem is I don't know how long it's been like this, as I have had phones plugged in all the time, that is until this weekend when I was rearranging the operating layouts. On Monday, July 25, 2011, Don Wilhelm wrote: > Ron, > > Have you removed the top cover to check that the speaker connector is plugged > in. If not, that is the first thing I would check. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 7/25/2011 5:26 PM, Ron N5QQ wrote: > > I have two K3's on the operating desk that are very similar except in > one way and I can not fine the setting or configuration to correct it. > At present both the rigs are set SPKRS+PH = NO and SPKRS = 1. This > gives me the internal speaker only when headphones are not plugged in, > and then headphones only (no speaker) when they are plugged in. > BUT the LH rig gives me headphones when they are plugged in (no > speaker) and NOTHING at all when the headphone jack is unplugged. This > is acting like I have external speakers plugged in, which I don't > have. Am I missing something obvious? > At this time there is no SO2R mic/phones/cw controller involved and > the only other connection is the interface to my PC (with N1MM). > Ron > > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - Pass Band Tuning and Optional Roofing Filter
Bernie, As I understand it, the KX3 will provide DSP filtering, which (like the K3) will be continuously variable from 3 kHz down to 100 Hz. 73, Don W3FPR On 7/26/2011 2:59 AM, Bernard Wills wrote: > Hello from VK, > > The news of the KX3 has stopped my meandering amongst various 80's and some > modern HF rigs as I've been catching up with technology after about 15 years > of inactivity until 2008. I am sizing up what it will cost to get a KX3 on > air, and my current point of uncertainty (aside from no firm pricing > announced) is how much adjustment there will be in the filtering in a > standard KX3. By standard, I mean 'no optional roofing filter' with the specs > listed in the announcement. I have followed all postings since the Dayton > announcement, watched the video demo a number of times, and understand what > roofing filters do. I have some experience with DC transceivers (think HW-8). > > > So as I see it, my question comes back to the mention of Pass Band Tuning. > Will the PBT in a 'standard' KX3 provide a continuously variable bandwidth > that would suit SSB, down to what I find useful for CW (say 500Hz)? > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Paranoid question
Pippo, Yes, you can use the green wire or any other wire of a similar size. The reason 2 colors are used is to have visual recognition for the primary and secondary windings. If you use the same green wire, I suggest that you apply some paint or a permanent marker stripe to the wire so you can tell the difference between the two windings. 73, Don W3FPR On 7/26/2011 4:45 AM, Giuseppe Sorrentino wrote: > I made a disaster in cutting wires for windings of T4 binocular core. I > now have not enough white wire for the work. The paranoid question isare > the green and the white wires supplied with K2 kit the same??? Cause i have > enough green wire for the 3 windings should be white and anough white wire > for the windings should be green! > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K4
I think that if Elecaft made a K4 that will do what the Kenwood radios will do.(UHF,VHF,1.2,SAT and so on) This will take away from what the K3 is all about. Just my input.. Chris W7CTH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K4
A purpose built VHF/UHF/uWave and Satellite focused rig would be great - small section of the market, likely, but would be great for those of us who are interested there. 73, N8YSZ. On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Chris Hembree wrote: > I think that if Elecaft made a K4 that will do what the Kenwood radios will > do.(UHF,VHF,1.2,SAT and so on) This will take away from what the K3 is all > about. > > Just my input.. > Chris W7CTH -- Dan Brown br...@brauhaus.org http://www.brauhaus.org http://www.dc-beer.org http://photos.brauhaus.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Musings on a K4
Ed, The LCD display would need to be holographic in nature in keeping with the 'Game Changer' mantra. Grin Gary On 26 July 2011 19:18, Edward R. Cole wrote: > Yes, a game changer: > > Small 2x2x3 inch block containing an organic computer with 78-GHz > waveguide flange with something like radiating fiberoptic interface > to a set of eyeglasses with LCD display and direct aural nerve > docking interface so one would only need to think the words which > would be converted into Quantum-modulation. Question is will it be > ham radio? oooweee beam me up! > > > 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 > == > BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com > EME: 50-1.1kw?, 144-1.4kw, 432-100w, 1296-60w, 3400-? > DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@gmail.com > == > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile Elecraft Equipment K3 #679, KPA-500 #018 Living the dream!!! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K4 musings
As long as we are in "dream mode", here's mine: 160 thru 10 meters CW only 200 W output Multi-color display Built in power supply Built in "P3" processing functionality but only VGA connector for external display Internal and remote external tuner options 73 Craig AC0DS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - Pass Band Tuning and Optional Roofing Filter
Thanks, Don. I will speak with a local club member who has a K3 (and K2/100) and find out more. Some other postings received today have also helped me to see what is intended for the KX3 PBT/roofing filter arrangements. I've tried the IF-stage DSP in the Yaesu FT-450D. It has about three pre-set bandwidths per mode (CW and SSB anyway); continuous b/w obviously looks more attractive. Cheers, Bernie. VK2BLW. > >From: Don Wilhelm >To: Bernard Wills >Cc: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" >Sent: Tuesday, 26 July 2011 10:22 PM >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - Pass Band Tuning and Optional Roofing Filter > >Bernie, > >As I understand it, the KX3 will provide DSP filtering, which (like the >K3) will be continuously variable from 3 kHz down to 100 Hz. > >73, >Don W3FPR > >On 7/26/2011 2:59 AM, Bernard Wills wrote: >> Hello from VK, > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Musings on a K4
K3UJ's hypohetical musings on something like a "K2.5" are bound to be answered eventually in some form or fashion by the folks at Elecraft. I have no idea if that is precisely where they will focus, but one thing I know for sure--Wayne and Eric are not the least bit lacking in imagination! That fact has been proven several times, and most recently with the announcement of the KX3. Half the fun of being an Elecraft devotee is staying tuned in to see what they will come up with next. They have judiciously added talent to the team to the point that I doubt there is much they couldn't produce, provided it made sense to do it. The trick is to keep all this talent effectively busy, so I strongly suspect there are a number of things on the drawing board right now. We just have to wait and see what's next. It's kind of like Christmas, except it can come at any time! Dave W7AQK === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17990) http://www.pctools.com/ === __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KC9EHQ KSB2 Diode Problem SOLVED!!!
Everyone, It looks like I solved the diode problem on my new KSB2 board!!! After taking a day off from building, due to yesterday being a work day, I came back this morning and took some desoldering wick to see if there was anything in the diode holes. There was some stuff in there, and I managed to get all of the diodes in! CRISIS AVERTED!! The KSB2 build can continue. I will post more pics soon, and let the group know. 73, David KC9EHQ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KX3 and Quadarature down-sampling
I've been wondering what Quadarature down-sampling is? This is the first that I have heard of it. Gary, N7HTS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] OT: Announcing the Fort Tuthill Arizona 2011 QRP Conferenceand Campout!!
Hi All, Hopefully with Eric's acceptance, I am forwarding an announcement by John Stevens regarding our upcoming QRP gathering at Ft. Tuthill. It's this coming weekend! Some of you may remember, or even have attended, what we used to have going annually at Ft. Tuthill. It was a much larger hamfest, and the QRPer's (mainly enhanced by activities sponsored by the Arizona ScQRPions QRP group), had a great "event within and event", similar to FDIM but obviously smaller. Nonetheless, we had a rapidly growing gathering until the other Arizona ham clubs botched everything by moving the big hamfest. Anyway, the ScQRPions, for the last 3 years or so, have returned the QRP event to Ft. Tuthill. We have camping, a big cookout, seminars, and generally a bunch of fun, albeit with a smaller crowd. Everyone is welcome though, and if you don't camp, Flagstaff is loaded with motels. And you don't have to be a QRPer to participate---it's only sponsored by QRPer's. We have a lot of fun, but we could always have even more if more people came. Ft. Tuthill is a great venue for this sort of thing, and just a mile or two from the middle of Flagstaff. You will find a bunch of Elecraft fans there too, of course. I know it's a bit late to be telling you all this, but hey--just take a chance and come! It's 7000 feet up, and in the pines! Hopefully some of you, within driving distance, didn't have anything better to do this weekend anyway! Hi. Dave W7AQK - Original Message - From: "John Stevens" Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 9:11 PM Subject: [qrp-l.org] Announcing the Fort Tuthill Arizona 2011 QRP Conference and Campout!! My apologies. I intended to send out the following updated Fort Tuthill QRP Conference and Campout information, but did an old one instead... 73 john It's time again for the Arizona ScQRPions 2011 QRP Conference and Campout at the Fort Tuthill campgrounds near Flagstaff Arizona on July 28, 29, and 30!! You don't have to be a QRPer as many of our programs are of general interest. Our website at http://www.azscqrpions.com has the details with links to maps to our activities. Our lineup of presenters this year is: Dan Butler (N7XQA) of Microchip with a PIC microcontroller Tutorial Steve Galchutt (wG0AT - Goat hiker) Rooster and Peanut and their adventures Bob Finch (W9YA) "What the Antenna Said" Mark Brueggemann (K5LXP) ARRL Techinical Specialist – QRP/P K5LXP style! Fred Maas (KT5X) with the presentation "SOTA - Do It With Less!" combines Trail Running with operating Summits On The Air (SOTA) with radios so small... Early bird camping begins Thursday afternoon July 28th. Stake out your territory at the campgrounds. Steve (wG0AT), Rooster, Peanut, and Fred (KT5X) plan an early Friday morning SOTA assault on Mt. Elden on the edge of Flagstaff. Get an early start to avoid the heat and T-Storms and hike with the boys or, for those of us less fit, drive up, meet them at the summit and do some operating! Steve and Fred will cover 20m, but could use more ops on VHF/UHF and other HF frequencies. Ops in Phoenix and other surrounding cities should have no trouble working them. Be sure to also listen for them on the trip down on Thursday from other SOTA sites in NM and AZ. Friday July 29th is also the day where YOU become the activities!! This is your chance to show off what you like to do in your corner of Ham Radio! BRING A DEMO. SHOW US WHAT YOU DO AND HOW IT WORKS! Do satellites? What do you use for tracking software. Work a few birds from the campground. Brag a little. Brag a lot! Built an interesting new gadget? Bring it. Are you a weak signal guy? Operate 6m Meteor Scatter and WSPR? Do just WSPR? JT65? Bring that and show yourself on the Reverse Beacon Network running 2 mW output. Remote control your radio? How does THAT work? Have a hot new antenna design? Bring it and we'll put the Vector Network Analyzer on it and see how it measures up. Anyway, you get the idea!! Of course you can always visit with old friends and make new ones. Bring some trading material for an informal swapmeet on Friday. Some will set up stations and antennas to operate. This is your day. And at the end of the day Friday, enjoy a group dinner at a local restaurant just outside the park entrance South toward Sedona or perhaps a little something from the Beaver Street Brewery... Saturday, July 30th is the day for all the forums. You can see from the list of presenters above, this will be an interesting day! Top it all off with the Saturday night picnic and campfires. No rainouts allowed as we have reserved a covered ramada for 250 happy hams just in case. We are looking forward to seeing and meeting you all at 7500' in the cool Ponderosa pines of Northern Arizona! Y'all come! 73 john K5JS ___ http://mail.qrp-l.org/mailman/listinfo/qrp-l_qrp-l.org === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Vir
Re: [Elecraft] [k2] Poor USB audio after cal
Don, As an Apple/PC/Linux user (and former PC-only person), let me clarify a bit ... I switched to Apple because the hardware AND software are robust and not given to blue screens or the likes. Linux offered robust software (same Unix thinking that's in Apple OS), but few applications that I needed. Now I use Apple Mac Pro, 14 GB memory, and Mac OS-X with mostly Mac application software. It's solid and runs 24-7. I run Parallels http://parallels.com as an application, and that provides for hosting virtual machines, or VMs. One VM I run is Windows 7, and that allows me to run all the Windows apps I want that aren't available on Apple ... GSDR, many amateur apps, etc. Another VM I run is Win-XP for the apps that won't play on Win-7. Also have SUSE on yet another VM. When I have multiple VMs running, they're all visible on my LAN as distinct computers for file transfer. Nicer yet, Parallels implements the clipboard so I can copy and paste from one VM to the other directly. Eg, I can copy text from NotePad and paste it directly into any Apple app. You CAN have your cake and eat it too. Cheers, Alan Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX (K2-5373, K3-40) 570-321-1516 http://WilcoxEngineering.com http://eBookEditor.net https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/28062?ref=awilcox Williamsport, PA 17701 On 7/25/11 9:20 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > Damon, > > I will not comment on the MAC/PC situation, but the injection of the > Signalink USB may be suspect. > > I am not a MAC user, so I cannot comment intelligently. I gave up on > Apple after the Apple II because of the proprietary nature of the > software - either you bought Apple software at an inflated price or you > did not have the function. So I settled on the PC software that was > available both in open source and purchased for much less than Apple > wanted for the same function. What I *can* say about Apple software is > that it works and is intuitive from the user's perspective, and all that > is not bad. > > BTW, Windows is going the same route as Apple IMHO, so the "upgrade" to > Win XP for me may be Ubuntu - goodbye to some of my favorite > applications until I find Linux equivalents. Such is life with computers. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 7/25/2011 8:58 PM, KC5CQW wrote: >> Problem solved. >> It turned out to be a computer/software problem. >> I had to use a PC (yuk) with a direct patch cord instead of my Mac G5 with >> Signalink USB. >> All is well again. >> >> 73, Damon >> > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Musings on a K4
On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 07:17 -0700, David Yarnes wrote: > ... They have > judiciously added talent to the team to the point that I doubt there is much > they couldn't produce, provided it made sense to do it. The trick is to > keep all this talent effectively busy, ... They do an excellent job of that! Alan N1AL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and Quadarature down-sampling
On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 08:44 -0600, Gary D Krause wrote: > I've been wondering what Quadarature down-sampling is? This is the first > that > I have heard of it. It's like a two-channel direct-conversion receiver. The two channels are on the same frequency but use local oscillators that are 90 degrees out of phase. With suitable processing, the in-phase (I) and quadrature (Q) mixer outputs give both the amplitude and phase of the signal. Among other things, that makes it possible to suppress the unwanted sideband of an SSB signal without a crystal filter. Alan N1AL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Focus on the KAT-500
With all the chatter (which is good) about K4s, color displays, DC to daylight coverage and you name it; I hope that Elecraft keeps its focus on completing the "K" line with the KAT-500. The synergism between the K3, P3 & KPA-500 is perfect with the exception of using the KPA-500's output to the fullest. It would be complete for me, with limited antenna possibilities, if there was a "matching" capability at the end-of-the-pipe. In my opinion, the KAT-500 will be a HUGE multiplier in the success of the "K" line. Eric and Wayne, can you give us an update? 73, Fred, AE6IC, K-line __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Focus on the KAT-500
We're well into the KAT500 prototyping process, Fred. But that still leaves a few ounces of gray matter and one hand free for typing. W On Jul 26, 2011, at 8:09 AM, Fred Atchley wrote: > With all the chatter (which is good) about K4s, color displays, DC to > daylight coverage and you name it; I hope that Elecraft keeps its > focus on > completing the "K" line with the KAT-500. The synergism between the > K3, P3 & > KPA-500 is perfect with the exception of using the KPA-500's output > to the > fullest. It would be complete for me, with limited antenna > possibilities, if > there was a "matching" capability at the end-of-the-pipe. > > In my opinion, the KAT-500 will be a HUGE multiplier in the success > of the > "K" line. > > Eric and Wayne, can you give us an update? > > 73, Fred, AE6IC, K-line > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KX3 and Quadarature down-sampling
Hello Alan, I have limited knowledge of radio. Is that the operation theory of quadarature down-sampling something similar to the image rejection mixer in the IC7800? Excuse me if I ask a stupid question. TNX & 73, Johnny VR2XMC 從︰ Alan Bloom 收件人︰ Gary D Krause 副本(CC)︰ Elecraft 傳送日期︰ 2011年07月26日 (週二) 11:08 PM 主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and Quadarature down-sampling On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 08:44 -0600, Gary D Krause wrote: > I've been wondering what Quadarature down-sampling is? This is the first > that > I have heard of it. It's like a two-channel direct-conversion receiver. The two channels are on the same frequency but use local oscillators that are 90 degrees out of phase. With suitable processing, the in-phase (I) and quadrature (Q) mixer outputs give both the amplitude and phase of the signal. Among other things, that makes it possible to suppress the unwanted sideband of an SSB signal without a crystal filter. Alan N1AL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Focus on the KAT-500
Yes, Fred. I am also waiting for an overall cost picture of KPA500+KAT500. For an overseas user like me, it would be better to order KPA500+KAT500 in one go to save some shipping costs. TNX & 73, Johnny VR2XMC 從︰ Fred Atchley 收件人︰ Elecraft@mailman.qth.net 傳送日期︰ 2011年07月26日 (週二) 11:09 PM 主題︰ [Elecraft] Focus on the KAT-500 With all the chatter (which is good) about K4s, color displays, DC to daylight coverage and you name it; I hope that Elecraft keeps its focus on completing the "K" line with the KAT-500. The synergism between the K3, P3 & KPA-500 is perfect with the exception of using the KPA-500's output to the fullest. It would be complete for me, with limited antenna possibilities, if there was a "matching" capability at the end-of-the-pipe. In my opinion, the KAT-500 will be a HUGE multiplier in the success of the "K" line. Eric and Wayne, can you give us an update? 73, Fred, AE6IC, K-line __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Thanks for the explanation, Alan. So, my next question is, how does it compare with a crystal filter? It is better? Does it give you more flexibility with filtering? Thanks, Gary, N7HTS On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 08:08:38 -0700 Alan Bloom wrote: On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 08:44 -0600, Gary D Krause wrote: I've been wondering what Quadarature down-sampling is? This is the first that I have heard of it. It's like a two-channel direct-conversion receiver. The two channels are on the same frequency but use local oscillators that are 90 degrees out of phase. With suitable processing, the in-phase (I) and quadrature (Q) mixer outputs give both the amplitude and phase of the signal. Among other things, that makes it possible to suppress the unwanted sideband of an SSB signal without a crystal filter. Alan N1AL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] OT: Announcing the Fort Tuthill Arizona 2011 QRPConferenceand Campout!!
Hi Dave, Is it going to be warm there? Today I have to start a fire because it is getting too cold to type. Ft. Tuthill sounds like fun. I have been to Flagstaff a few times. Once for the observatory and another time just to go camping. When I lived in Albuquerque Flagstaff was the place to go when it got hot. The smell of pine was very nice. Here in Oregon, well on the coast side anyway, we do not have pines. Just fir and cedar which smell quite different. The lodgepole pine don't begin until east of the Cascades. Have fun and remember there is a nice observatory nearby. Percival Lowell created the Flagstaff Observatory because of the very transparent skies in the area. Even though Pluto is no longer considered a planet :( Clyde Tombaugh used the Flagstaff Observatory's Clarke refractor to find it. http://www.bobspixels.com/kaibab.org/other/gc_oa_lo.htm The pine trees around the campground allow one to toss an antenna up with no problem. I used a home brew dipole from there with my K2. The batteries were recharged each day with the ever present, intense SW sunshine. I wish solar cells worked as well here! Don't forget your sunblock and a LOT of water. Enjoy the mountain air and be aware of the fire danger in the Southwest. 73, Kevin. KD5ONS On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 07:50:23 -0700, David Yarnes wrote: > Hi All, > > Hopefully with Eric's acceptance, I am forwarding an announcement by John > Stevens regarding our upcoming QRP gathering at Ft. Tuthill. It's this > coming weekend! > > Some of you may remember, or even have attended, what we used to have > going > annually at Ft. Tuthill. It was a much larger hamfest, and the QRPer's > (mainly enhanced by activities sponsored by the Arizona ScQRPions QRP > group), had a great "event within and event", similar to FDIM but > obviously > smaller. Nonetheless, we had a rapidly growing gathering until the other > Arizona ham clubs botched everything by moving the big hamfest. > > Anyway, the ScQRPions, for the last 3 years or so, have returned the QRP > event to Ft. Tuthill. We have camping, a big cookout, seminars, and > generally a bunch of fun, albeit with a smaller crowd. Everyone is > welcome > though, and if you don't camp, Flagstaff is loaded with motels. And you > don't have to be a QRPer to participate---it's only sponsored by QRPer's. > We have a lot of fun, but we could always have even more if more people > came. Ft. Tuthill is a great venue for this sort of thing, and just a > mile > or two from the middle of Flagstaff. You will find a bunch of Elecraft > fans > there too, of course. > > I know it's a bit late to be telling you all this, but hey--just take a > chance and come! It's 7000 feet up, and in the pines! Hopefully some of > you, within driving distance, didn't have anything better to do this > weekend > anyway! Hi. > > Dave W7AQK > - Original Message - > From: "John Stevens" > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 9:11 PM > Subject: [qrp-l.org] Announcing the Fort Tuthill Arizona 2011 QRP > Conference > and Campout!! > > > My apologies. I intended to send out the following updated Fort > Tuthill QRP Conference and Campout information, but did an old one > instead... 73 john > > > It's time again for the Arizona ScQRPions 2011 QRP Conference and > Campout at the Fort Tuthill campgrounds near Flagstaff Arizona on July > 28, 29, and 30!! You don't have to be a QRPer as many of our programs > are of general interest. Our website at http://www.azscqrpions.com > has the details with links to maps to our activities. > > Our lineup of presenters this year is: > > Dan Butler (N7XQA) of Microchip with a PIC microcontroller Tutorial > > Steve Galchutt (wG0AT - Goat hiker) Rooster and Peanut and their > adventures > > Bob Finch (W9YA) "What the Antenna Said" > > Mark Brueggemann (K5LXP) ARRL Techinical Specialist – QRP/P K5LXP style! > > Fred Maas (KT5X) with the presentation "SOTA - Do It With Less!" > combines Trail Running with operating Summits On The Air (SOTA) with > radios so small... > > Early bird camping begins Thursday afternoon July 28th. Stake out > your territory at the campgrounds. > > Steve (wG0AT), Rooster, Peanut, and Fred (KT5X) plan an early Friday > morning SOTA assault on Mt. Elden on the edge of Flagstaff. Get an > early start to avoid the heat and T-Storms and hike with the boys or, > for those of us less fit, drive up, meet them at the summit and do > some operating! Steve and Fred will cover 20m, but could use more ops > on VHF/UHF and other HF frequencies. Ops in Phoenix and other > surrounding cities should have no trouble working them. Be sure to > also listen for them on the trip down on Thursday from other SOTA > sites in NM and AZ. > > Friday July 29th is also the day where YOU become the activities!! > This is your chance to show off what you like to do in your corner of > Ham Radio! BRING A DEMO. SHOW US WHAT YOU DO AND HOW IT WORKS!
[Elecraft] KX3 Musing..
(Tongue firmly in cheek..) The "Ultimate" KX3 would 'obviously' have a 160M->2M Fractal Patch antenna built into the top of the case... Lyle? Flame-proof suit is "ON" -- Dave G KK7SS Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it.. '65 Sprite - in process :( '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) '06 Honda Civic Hybrid __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Quadrature down-sampling
Gary, That part has nothing to do with the filtering - the next step is to convert both the I and Q signals to digital and do the manipulation mathematically - that includes filtering, detection, and most other signal processing functions. The result is then converted to an analog audio signal for the final amplification. Yes, the amount of flexibility is limited only by the amount of DSP code and speed of the DSP processing - all manner of "magic" can be performed once the signal is placed into the digital "number soup". That is the normal process for a Software Defined Radio - some use a computer soundcard to do the digital/analog conversion and the processor does the computation, but there is no reason why that process cannot be done using a dedicated processor. The K3 already works the same way, but the frequency for the ADC is higher - that really makes little difference. Using the mixer to convert directly to baseband is quite common in SDR receivers. While we are getting close to the time when direct digital sampling from the antenna is feasible, it is not yet available at a price we would want to pay. 73, Don W3FPR On 7/26/2011 11:43 AM, Gary D Krause wrote: > Thanks for the explanation, Alan. So, my next question is, how does it compare > with a crystal filter? It is better? Does it give you more flexibility with > filtering? > > Thanks, > Gary, N7HTS > > > On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 08:08:38 -0700 >Alan Bloom wrote: > > On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 08:44 -0600, Gary D Krause wrote: > > I've been wondering what Quadarature down-sampling is? This is the > first that I have heard of it. > > > It's like a two-channel direct-conversion receiver. The two channels > are on the same frequency but use local oscillators that are 90 degrees > out of phase. With suitable processing, the in-phase (I) and quadrature > (Q) mixer outputs give both the amplitude and phase of the signal. > Among other things, that makes it possible to suppress the unwanted > sideband of an SSB signal without a crystal filter. > > Alan N1AL > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K4
I concur there. Wouldn't take the K3 market, but rather open a new one that appears to be not as well supplied. I'd go for it. -- sent whilst mobile; Andy, G8TQH On 26 Jul 2011, at 14:08, Daniel Brown wrote: > A purpose built VHF/UHF/uWave and Satellite focused rig would be great > - small section of the market, likely, but would be great for those of > us who are interested there. > > 73, > N8YSZ. > > On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Chris Hembree wrote: >> I think that if Elecaft made a K4 that will do what the Kenwood radios will >> do.(UHF,VHF,1.2,SAT and so on) This will take away from what the K3 is all >> about. >> >> Just my input.. >> Chris W7CTH > > > > > -- > Dan Brown > br...@brauhaus.org > http://www.brauhaus.org > http://www.dc-beer.org > http://photos.brauhaus.org > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Musing..
I think 160m to 2m is asking a little much from a fractal patch antenna. But from 20m to 2m should be within the ballpark of a dedicated antenna designer. I don't think there is enough space on the rig for those lower bands. But some of the grad students at the U of New Mexico were working on just such things during my time there. My advisor was the one leading that research. Professor Christos Christodoulou. Lots of interesting design notes in his CV. 73 and GL on that fractal patch design! Kevin. KD5ONS Residing in the suburbs of Buxton, Oregon On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 09:14:56 -0700, Dave KK7SS wrote: > (Tongue firmly in cheek..) > > The "Ultimate" KX3 would 'obviously' have a 160M->2M Fractal Patch > antenna built into the top of the case... Lyle? > > Flame-proof suit is "ON" > > -- > Dave G KK7SS > Richland, WA > > '59 Morris Minor 1000 - working on it.. > '65 Sprite - in process :( > '76 Midget - co-owned with #4 Son :) > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] relevance of "asking Elecraft list..."
Please allow me to echo John's comment below. Many of the current Elecraft reflector members became Elecraft users because early in their career they were enamored with the building of Heathkit radios. So, many of the members of this reflector come armed with a great deal of widespread talent and knowledge. I see a connection here too, and I also applaud the moderators for allowing members to share their vast knowledge, even if it seems to be "general" in nature to some. Terry, W0FM -Original Message- From: John Ragle [mailto:tpcj1...@crocker.com] Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 2:10 PM To: elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] relevance of "asking Elecraft list..." I subscribe to (am the victim of?) a number of list servers, and find the Elecraft list to be a much more general font of wisdom than most. The few characters it takes to transfer a short message to the list don't really constitute wasteful and burdensome traffic in the modern age, and I commend the Elecraft list monitor for exercising some forbearance on most off-topic threads...like this one. John Ragle -- W1ZI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and Quadarature down-sampling
Hi Johnny, I'm not familiar with the IC7800, but in general an image-reject mixer uses the same basic principle. It's the same as the "phasing" method of SSB generation used 50 years ago, except that they didn't use the word "quadrature" or "I/Q" in those days. Alan N1AL On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 23:31 +0800, Johnny Siu wrote: > Hello Alan, > > I have limited knowledge of radio. > > Is that the operation theory of quadarature down-sampling something > similar to the image rejection mixer in the IC7800? > > Excuse me if I ask a stupid question. > > TNX & 73, > > > Johnny VR2XMC > > 從︰ Alan Bloom > 收件人︰ Gary D Krause > 副本(CC)︰ Elecraft > 傳送日期︰ 2011年07月26日 (週二) 11:08 PM > 主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and Quadarature down-sampling > > On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 08:44 -0600, Gary D Krause wrote: > > I've been wondering what Quadarature down-sampling is? This is the first > > that > > I have heard of it. > > It's like a two-channel direct-conversion receiver. The two channels > are on the same frequency but use local oscillators that are 90 degrees > out of phase. With suitable processing, the in-phase (I) and quadrature > (Q) mixer outputs give both the amplitude and phase of the signal. > Among other things, that makes it possible to suppress the unwanted > sideband of an SSB signal without a crystal filter. > > Alan N1AL > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] WSPR
Hello All, Is there any WSPR stations transmitting on 500 KHZ ( 600 Meters ) in the lower 48 states ? Thanks to All Ken K5DNL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] WSPR
Shouldn't be, since the special authorization for 600 meters expired in the US at the end of 2010. A shame, too, since I was the lucky(?) winner of the 600m transverter kit at the 2011 FDIM. I ended up doing some swapping with the rep and got a dual band 40 and 20 meter receiver kit, instead. 73, -- Dave, N8SBE > Original Message > Subject: [Elecraft] WSPR > From: Ken Roberson > Date: Tue, July 26, 2011 3:15 pm > To: Elecraft Elecraft > > > Hello All, > > Is there any WSPR stations transmitting on 500 KHZ ( 600 Meters ) > in the lower 48 states ? > > Thanks to All > Ken K5DNL > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] WSPR
On 26 Jul 2011 at 13:10, Dave New, N8SBE wrote: > Shouldn't be, since the special authorization for 600 meters expired in > the US at the end of 2010. > Really? That certainly doesn't seem to be the case if you visit http://www.500kc.com/ There is also WSPR activity in the UK on 500kHz. G4JNT runs a beacon on 503.7kHz (see http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/multi- function-beacon-by-andy-g4jnt) and I know there are others. But you probably won't hear them in the USA at this time of the year? I was on 500kHz a few years ago, but only on CW. See http://www.davesergeant.com/mf 73 Dave G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] WSPR
Sorry, that's 80 and 40 meters (not 40 and 20). The kits were from JUMA. I note on their web page, that after Jul 31 of this year, they will lose their distributor of kits, and so they not be available anymore. If you enjoy (?!) soldering surface mount, this may be your last chance for a while to pick up some nice QRP kits. Sorry for the commercial nature of the message. I'm not tied to these folks in any way, other than having a (still unassembled) receiver kit. 73, -- Dave, N8SBE > Original Message > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] WSPR > From: "Dave New, N8SBE" > Date: Tue, July 26, 2011 4:10 pm > To: "Ken Roberson" > Cc: Elecraft Elecraft > > > Shouldn't be, since the special authorization for 600 meters expired in > the US at the end of 2010. > > A shame, too, since I was the lucky(?) winner of the 600m transverter > kit at the 2011 FDIM. > > I ended up doing some swapping with the rep and got a dual band 40 and > 20 meter receiver kit, instead. > > 73, > > -- Dave, N8SBE > > > Original Message > > Subject: [Elecraft] WSPR > > From: Ken Roberson > > Date: Tue, July 26, 2011 3:15 pm > > To: Elecraft Elecraft > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > Is there any WSPR stations transmitting on 500 KHZ ( 600 Meters ) > > in the lower 48 states ? > > > > Thanks to All > > Ken K5DNL > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] 100 and 50 hz DSP filtering
I asked this question almost a year ago but my other brain cell forgot the answer(s) I got, so in advance I apologize for the redundant question. On my K3, I have switched between the FIR and the IIR filters when I have the DSP filters set to either 100 hz or 50 hz, and can tell no improvement. Why is it that there is a significant drop in signal level (on CW) when either of those two filter widths are selected? And/or how can I fix the signal level decrease? Thanks and 73, Tom - W4BQF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] 100 and 50 hz DSP filtering
You are probably using Rx EQ and have your preferred sidetone pitch peaked to something more than 0 dB. RxEQ is not available at these two narrow bandwidths. Note: It seems that many people believe that the Rx EQ is an *additional* filter cascaded with the normal DSP filter. It is not. In general, if you want to apply RxEQ shaping in CW mode, I recommend that you set your preferred sidetone pitch to 0 dB and use cuts on either side, or for whatever shaping you prefer, and not use any peaking above 0 dB. That will avoid this problem. 73, Lyle KK7P > Why is it that there is a significant drop in signal >level (on CW) when > either of those two filter widths are selected? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K1-4 backorder - how long will the wait likely be?
Today, I ordered a K3 and a K1-4. The K1-4 cannot be shipped. Now I'm wondering how long the wait will be? If it's way too long, I will switch to the KX1. 73, Chris KF6VCI HS0ZFE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] TU WSPR INFO
Thanks to all for the WSPR info. 73 Ken K5DNL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 backorder - how long will the wait likely be?
When I glanced at the Subject line I was a bit taken aback thinking you had ordered a K1, a K2, a K3, and a K4. Since the K4 is only in the wish phase your order will take one very long time to arrive :) 73 & GL with your rigs to come. Kevin. KD5ONS On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 15:53:19 -0700, Chris Wagner wrote: > Today, I ordered a K3 and a K1-4. The K1-4 cannot be shipped. Now I'm > wondering how long the wait will be? > If it's way too long, I will switch to the KX1. > 73, > Chris KF6VCI HS0ZFE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 backorder - how long will the wait likely be?
That's strange as the Elecraft shipping status page says the K1-4 is in stock. I'd e-mail Elecraft to ask what's the discrepancy. http://elecraft.com/elecraft_shipping_status.htm David K0LUM At 5:53 AM +0700 7/27/11, Chris Wagner wrote: >Today, I ordered a K3 and a K1-4. The K1-4 cannot be shipped. Now I'm >wondering how long the wait will be? >If it's way too long, I will switch to the KX1. >73, >Chris KF6VCI HS0ZFE >__ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K4
There once was sold an excellent rig (for its day) sold by Yaesu called the FT-736r. It was designed and marketed primarily for satellite work, but became very popular among VHF-UHF contesters. In fact, I know of quite few who still use it, but they are looking for alternatives, since the '736 is becoming unreliable with age. The FT-736r had internal slot for four band-specific modules (transverters); the owner could mix and match among 6 meter, 2 meter, 220, 440, and 1296 mhz SSB. The modules were rated for 25 watts output through 220 mHz and 20 watts on 440 and above. Its receiver was not very impressive compared with what you can get with a K3 and transverters, but those who own it love it. Given the physical size and relatively high running temp of existing Elecraft transverters, my guess is that they'd have to be redesigned for slightly less power output to fit within the K3 case on a K3-based motherboard. But 16 watts out from a transverter module into an amplifier with 15 db gain would yield 500 watts out, and that's plenty for the uses such a rig would be put to. Marry a "K4" to a purpose-built VHF/UHF amplifier (akin to the KPA-500) and you would have a killer rig for VHF-UHF contesting. As for price, take a look at the eHam reviews of the FT-736r. The basic unit sells today for more than $500, even though decades old, and the "scarce" 222 mhz and 1296 mHz modules sometimes fetch $1,000 on eBay. People who are into satellite work and VHF/UHF contesting would fight for a place in line to buy such a rig, and for many it would be a bargain compared with trying to set up a complete FT-736r. If space allowed, five bands would be even better, but since most VHF/UHF contesters use a separate rig for 6 meters anyway, you could get by with four, covering 2m, 1.25 m, 70 cm, and 23 cm bands. You can easily spend $3k or $4k to put together a comparably equipped FT-736, which suggests that the market would accept a price of up to $5k for a new and very high-quality rig such as the hypothetical K4. And it absolutely would not pirate sales from the K3, although it would put a dent in sales of transverters. Please don't think that's a reason for not producing such a radio. If Elecraft followed that philosophy we'd not have the K3 or KX3. I would sell my car and walk 25 miles to work to get a "K4". Lew K6LMP > On 26 Jul 2011, at 14:08, Daniel Brown wrote: > >> A purpose built VHF/UHF/uWave and Satellite focused rig would be great >> - small section of the market, likely, but would be great for those of >> us who are interested there. >> >> 73, >> N8YSZ. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K4
Lew, Although I am HF only, you put a very strong case for a K4 as you describe. I wonder now if the minds at elecraft are working on a similar schemeHmm Gary On 27 July 2011 10:05, Lew Phelps K6LMP wrote: > There once was sold an excellent rig (for its day) sold by Yaesu called the > FT-736r. It was designed and marketed primarily for satellite work, but > became very popular among VHF-UHF contesters. In fact, I know of quite few > who still use it, but they are looking for alternatives, since the '736 is > becoming unreliable with age. > > The FT-736r had internal slot for four band-specific modules > (transverters); the owner could mix and match among 6 meter, 2 meter, 220, > 440, and 1296 mhz SSB. The modules were rated for 25 watts output through > 220 mHz and 20 watts on 440 and above. Its receiver was not very impressive > compared with what you can get with a K3 and transverters, but those who own > it love it. > > Given the physical size and relatively high running temp of existing > Elecraft transverters, my guess is that they'd have to be redesigned for > slightly less power output to fit within the K3 case on a K3-based > motherboard. But 16 watts out from a transverter module into an amplifier > with 15 db gain would yield 500 watts out, and that's plenty for the uses > such a rig would be put to. Marry a "K4" to a purpose-built VHF/UHF > amplifier (akin to the KPA-500) and you would have a killer rig for VHF-UHF > contesting. > > As for price, take a look at the eHam reviews of the FT-736r. The basic > unit sells today for more than $500, even though decades old, and the > "scarce" 222 mhz and 1296 mHz modules sometimes fetch $1,000 on eBay. People > who are into satellite work and VHF/UHF contesting would fight for a place > in line to buy such a rig, and for many it would be a bargain compared with > trying to set up a complete FT-736r. If space allowed, five bands would be > even better, but since most VHF/UHF contesters use a separate rig for 6 > meters anyway, you could get by with four, covering 2m, 1.25 m, 70 cm, and > 23 cm bands. You can easily spend $3k or $4k to put together a comparably > equipped FT-736, which suggests that the market would accept a price of up > to $5k for a new and very high-quality rig such as the hypothetical K4. > > And it absolutely would not pirate sales from the K3, although it would put > a dent in sales of transverters. Please don't think that's a reason for not > producing such a radio. If Elecraft followed that philosophy we'd not have > the K3 or KX3. > > > I would sell my car and walk 25 miles to work to get a "K4". > > Lew K6LMP > > > > On 26 Jul 2011, at 14:08, Daniel Brown wrote: > > > >> A purpose built VHF/UHF/uWave and Satellite focused rig would be great > >> - small section of the market, likely, but would be great for those of > >> us who are interested there. > >> > >> 73, > >> N8YSZ. > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile Elecraft Equipment K3 #679, KPA-500 #018 Living the dream!!! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K4
Agreed Gary, Lew sure does put the case forward rather eloquently doesn't he? If Elecraft made a rig like Lew described, I would purchase one in a heartbeat. Although I love my K3 and my soon to arrive KPA500, my first love in Amateur Radio was and remains VHF/UHF operation. (6m and up) 73 de Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF Elecraft K3 # 4257 + K144XV + KPA500 + PR6 = A multi-band contesters wet dream! - Original Message - From: "Gary Gregory" To: "Lew Phelps K6LMP" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 > Lew, > > Although I am HF only, you put a very strong case for a K4 as you describe. > I wonder now if the minds at elecraft are working on a similar > schemeHmm > > Gary > > On 27 July 2011 10:05, Lew Phelps K6LMP wrote: > >> There once was sold an excellent rig (for its day) sold by Yaesu called the >> FT-736r. It was designed and marketed primarily for satellite work, but >> became very popular among VHF-UHF contesters. In fact, I know of quite few >> who still use it, but they are looking for alternatives, since the '736 is >> becoming unreliable with age. >> >> The FT-736r had internal slot for four band-specific modules >> (transverters); the owner could mix and match among 6 meter, 2 meter, 220, >> 440, and 1296 mhz SSB. The modules were rated for 25 watts output through >> 220 mHz and 20 watts on 440 and above. Its receiver was not very impressive >> compared with what you can get with a K3 and transverters, but those who own >> it love it. >> >> Given the physical size and relatively high running temp of existing >> Elecraft transverters, my guess is that they'd have to be redesigned for >> slightly less power output to fit within the K3 case on a K3-based >> motherboard. But 16 watts out from a transverter module into an amplifier >> with 15 db gain would yield 500 watts out, and that's plenty for the uses >> such a rig would be put to. Marry a "K4" to a purpose-built VHF/UHF >> amplifier (akin to the KPA-500) and you would have a killer rig for VHF-UHF >> contesting. >> >> As for price, take a look at the eHam reviews of the FT-736r. The basic >> unit sells today for more than $500, even though decades old, and the >> "scarce" 222 mhz and 1296 mHz modules sometimes fetch $1,000 on eBay. People >> who are into satellite work and VHF/UHF contesting would fight for a place >> in line to buy such a rig, and for many it would be a bargain compared with >> trying to set up a complete FT-736r. If space allowed, five bands would be >> even better, but since most VHF/UHF contesters use a separate rig for 6 >> meters anyway, you could get by with four, covering 2m, 1.25 m, 70 cm, and >> 23 cm bands. You can easily spend $3k or $4k to put together a comparably >> equipped FT-736, which suggests that the market would accept a price of up >> to $5k for a new and very high-quality rig such as the hypothetical K4. >> >> And it absolutely would not pirate sales from the K3, although it would put >> a dent in sales of transverters. Please don't think that's a reason for not >> producing such a radio. If Elecraft followed that philosophy we'd not have >> the K3 or KX3. >> >> >> I would sell my car and walk 25 miles to work to get a "K4". >> >> Lew K6LMP >> >> >> > On 26 Jul 2011, at 14:08, Daniel Brown wrote: >> > >> >> A purpose built VHF/UHF/uWave and Satellite focused rig would be great >> >> - small section of the market, likely, but would be great for those of >> >> us who are interested there. >> >> >> >> 73, >> >> N8YSZ. >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > > > > -- > > VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile > Elecraft Equipment > K3 #679, KPA-500 #018 > Living the dream!!! > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K4
Hello Lew, I have no disagreement to your suggested arrangement. However, in the reality, the market for HF radios is far bigger than V/U radios. The R&D expenses in HF radios can be spreaded among commercial and insitutional variants. Perhaps, this explains why HF radio technology has been advancing so quick that we get quite a number of radio choices from different manufacturers. The technology in the currrent V/U ham radios is not much different from that of 20 years ago. This perhaps explains the reason why some of the hams are stilling chasing for the FT736R. The big names Y,I,K would rather spend their R&D in a more profitable radio segment such as HF. Even for the latest production of IC9100, of which I consider a good radio, I feel Icom is very brave in trying to launch an expensive radio targeting at the V/U segment. Without any intention to discriminate between HF and V/U operators, I feel HF hams are prepared to spend more in their radios. I did not know whether high end V/U radio will be profitable enough for Elecraft. Back to the price of FT736R, I feel it was overpriced in US or western countries. A nice second hand FT736 equipped with1.2G modules are selling at JPY70,000 in Japan. Regrettably, local Japanese dealers do not entertain overseas order. I will not buy FT736 now because I am not a skillful radio technican good at repairing work. TNX & 73, Johnny VR2XMC 從︰ Lew Phelps K6LMP 收件人︰ "Elecraft@mailman.qth.net List" 傳送日期︰ 2011年07月27日 (週三) 8:05 AM 主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] K4 There once was sold an excellent rig (for its day) sold by Yaesu called the FT-736r. It was designed and marketed primarily for satellite work, but became very popular among VHF-UHF contesters. In fact, I know of quite few who still use it, but they are looking for alternatives, since the '736 is becoming unreliable with age. The FT-736r had internal slot for four band-specific modules (transverters); the owner could mix and match among 6 meter, 2 meter, 220, 440, and 1296 mhz SSB. The modules were rated for 25 watts output through 220 mHz and 20 watts on 440 and above. Its receiver was not very impressive compared with what you can get with a K3 and transverters, but those who own it love it. Given the physical size and relatively high running temp of existing Elecraft transverters, my guess is that they'd have to be redesigned for slightly less power output to fit within the K3 case on a K3-based motherboard. But 16 watts out from a transverter module into an amplifier with 15 db gain would yield 500 watts out, and that's plenty for the uses such a rig would be put to. Marry a "K4" to a purpose-built VHF/UHF amplifier (akin to the KPA-500) and you would have a killer rig for VHF-UHF contesting. As for price, take a look at the eHam reviews of the FT-736r. The basic unit sells today for more than $500, even though decades old, and the "scarce" 222 mhz and 1296 mHz modules sometimes fetch $1,000 on eBay. People who are into satellite work and VHF/UHF contesting would fight for a place in line to buy such a rig, and for many it would be a bargain compared with trying to set up a complete FT-736r. If space allowed, five bands would be even better, but since most VHF/UHF contesters use a separate rig for 6 meters anyway, you could get by with four, covering 2m, 1.25 m, 70 cm, and 23 cm bands. You can easily spend $3k or $4k to put together a comparably equipped FT-736, which suggests that the market would accept a price of up to $5k for a new and very high-quality rig such as the hypothetical K4. And it absolutely would not pirate sales from the K3, although it would put a dent in sales of transverters. Please don't think that's a reason for not producing such a radio. If Elecraft followed that philosophy we'd not have the K3 or KX3. I would sell my car and walk 25 miles to work to get a "K4". Lew K6LMP > On 26 Jul 2011, at 14:08, Daniel Brown wrote: > >> A purpose built VHF/UHF/uWave and Satellite focused rig would be great >> - small section of the market, likely, but would be great for those of >> us who are interested there. >> >> 73, >> N8YSZ. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Serial 0194 Done!
I am really wanting to order this, started to twice, but the LED alignment kind of is holding me back. The screws I can manage. Any chance one of you can post a picture so I can see what or not the misalignment looks like? Thanks, Chuck KE9UW Tony Estep wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Bruce W1UJRwrote: > >> ...Metering LEDS not very straight or level... > > > Bruce, I had good luck by just holding a ruler along the bottom of the > line > of LEDs (with the panel on) and straightening them with a finger. They > look > pretty good now. > > 73, Tony KT0NY > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KPA500-Serial-0194-Done-tp6615927p6624403.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Serial 0194 Done!
Chuck, it's just a fraction of an inch, maybe 1/64". There's a line of LEDs that make a bar-graph display of power. They're already soldered in place. All you have to do after it's all finished is run your finger along the bottom edge to straighten them up. Definitely shouldn't be something that keeps you from enjoying this dynamite amp. 73, Tony KT0NY On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 7:43 PM, ke9uw wrote: > I am really wanting to order this, started to twice, but the LED alignment > kind of is holding me back. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K2/100 For Sale
FS: My K2/100 and KAT100 with options and upgrades installed. In excellent physical and operational condition- carefully built and has had very light use. Options included: KSB2… SSB adapter board KNB2...Noise Blanker KAF2… Audio filter/Real-Time clock K160RX… 160 mtrs/2nd RX antenna KAT2… QRP auto antenna tuner ETS15… Short tilt stand EC2… Project Enclosure kit- Unbuilt- New…(build KPA100 and KAT100 into one box) Fingerdimple & FT-100 knob- not currently installed Nifty Mini-manual K2 All cables- 2 power cables, RS232 cable Mic/headset w/PTT switch Metal case w/foam cut for K2 Upgrades: K2 Keying mod 12M/10M BPF mod VFO ALC mod PLL temp stability upgrade FWK2MCIO Firmware 2.04/1.0 REVISION A to B mods, including BFOMDKT and E850138 PLL ref upgrade XFILMDKT 2nd XFIL SSB mod AF Gain wiring mod K2 mic shell to PCB mod SSBCAPKT and R-K2KSB2XTLS mods, KSB2 caps/14 crystals, included not installed KPA100UPKT amp upgrade KPA100RESKT amp 20/17 meter upgrade Everything completely documented. Pictures available at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/w8soo/sets/72157627101739390/ One of the best rigs I’ve ever built/owned- not using it much so time to give it a new home. It will be hard to find one better built. Serial #0812- Price is $1175 shipped double-boxed to CONUS. Payment by MO or PayPal. If interested, please email: w8soo at arrl dot net 73, Ken W8SOO K3 #1972 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] AMERITRON AL-1200 Amplifier Listed on Ebay--FINAL CHAPTER
Dear Gang: My KPA-500 has shipped and the buyer for my AL-1200 backed out on the same day! I apologize for the bandwidth--you won't hear this again. My AL-1200 is now listed on Ebay, listing 270789215092 If the XYL sees the huge negative ham radio expense I will be walking the streets begging for food--and for AA batteries to power my K1. 73, Eric WD6DBM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Serial 0194 Done!
Sounds good...I like things on the mark, why I chose Elecraft actually. Chuck, KE9UW -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KPA500-Serial-0194-Done-tp6615927p6624494.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Serial 0194 Done!
The manual is being updated (when I stop messing about here) with a simple procedure to align the LEDs, either using a straight edge or your fingernail. We never thought aligning them perfectly would be such a mystery, so it wasn't covered in the manual :-) For anyone who has misaligned LED's: with the front panel mounted run your fingernail along the LEDs, pushing them up or down against the opening. They will be perfectly straight. Optionally, you and place a straight edge (such as a common rule) along one side of the LED's and use it to press them all against the opening. Want them perfectly centered in that opening (only a tiny gap on either side, but for the absolute perfectionist), just use that rule to push them all slightly away from one edge of the LED opening to the center. It really isn't something that can be fixed at the factory - it's just too easy to misalign them when handling or packaging the board. The above procedures are what the factory does to insure the factory-assembled KPA500 LEDs are perfectly straight. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of ke9uw Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 5:43 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Serial 0194 Done! I am really wanting to order this, started to twice, but the LED alignment kind of is holding me back. The screws I can manage. Any chance one of you can post a picture so I can see what or not the misalignment looks like? Thanks, Chuck KE9UW Tony Estep wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Bruce W1UJRwrote: > >> ...Metering LEDS not very straight or level... > > > Bruce, I had good luck by just holding a ruler along the bottom of the > line > of LEDs (with the panel on) and straightening them with a finger. They > look > pretty good now. > > 73, Tony KT0NY > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KPA500-Serial-0194-Done-tp6615927p66244 03.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 backorder - how long will the wait likely be?
Just call sales at Elecraft: 831-763-4211. They'll give you the straight scoop in an instant. It's probably a very short term interruption due to a vendor. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Chris Wagner Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 3:53 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K1-4 backorder - how long will the wait likely be? Today, I ordered a K3 and a K1-4. The K1-4 cannot be shipped. Now I'm wondering how long the wait will be? If it's way too long, I will switch to the KX1. 73, Chris KF6VCI HS0ZFE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K4
Lew, Other than the fact that the FT-736R had all of the modules in the case, what is the difference between a K4 such as you propose and a K3/10 with a XV-144/XV-222/XV-432 stack? Perhaps Elecraft could be persuaded to work on an XV-1290 to round out the offering ... Of more interest would be the ability to activate two of the XVs at the same time and feed the second one to the K3's Aux input (sub RX) for monitoring two bands, working satellites, or working cross band. It would take some work with both the XVs and the K3 control code but might pay off more than a VHF/UHF only "K4." 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 7/26/2011 8:05 PM, Lew Phelps K6LMP wrote: > There once was sold an excellent rig (for its day) sold by Yaesu called the > FT-736r. It was designed and marketed primarily for satellite work, but > became very popular among VHF-UHF contesters. In fact, I know of quite few > who still use it, but they are looking for alternatives, since the '736 is > becoming unreliable with age. > > The FT-736r had internal slot for four band-specific modules (transverters); > the owner could mix and match among 6 meter, 2 meter, 220, 440, and 1296 mhz > SSB. The modules were rated for 25 watts output through 220 mHz and 20 watts > on 440 and above. Its receiver was not very impressive compared with what you > can get with a K3 and transverters, but those who own it love it. > > Given the physical size and relatively high running temp of existing Elecraft > transverters, my guess is that they'd have to be redesigned for slightly less > power output to fit within the K3 case on a K3-based motherboard. But 16 > watts out from a transverter module into an amplifier with 15 db gain would > yield 500 watts out, and that's plenty for the uses such a rig would be put > to. Marry a "K4" to a purpose-built VHF/UHF amplifier (akin to the KPA-500) > and you would have a killer rig for VHF-UHF contesting. > > As for price, take a look at the eHam reviews of the FT-736r. The basic unit > sells today for more than $500, even though decades old, and the "scarce" 222 > mhz and 1296 mHz modules sometimes fetch $1,000 on eBay. People who are into > satellite work and VHF/UHF contesting would fight for a place in line to buy > such a rig, and for many it would be a bargain compared with trying to set up > a complete FT-736r. If space allowed, five bands would be even better, but > since most VHF/UHF contesters use a separate rig for 6 meters anyway, you > could get by with four, covering 2m, 1.25 m, 70 cm, and 23 cm bands. You can > easily spend $3k or $4k to put together a comparably equipped FT-736, which > suggests that the market would accept a price of up to $5k for a new and very > high-quality rig such as the hypothetical K4. > > And it absolutely would not pirate sales from the K3, although it would put a > dent in sales of transverters. Please don't think that's a reason for not > producing such a radio. If Elecraft followed that philosophy we'd not have > the K3 or KX3. > > > I would sell my car and walk 25 miles to work to get a "K4". > > Lew K6LMP > > >> On 26 Jul 2011, at 14:08, Daniel Brown wrote: >> >>> A purpose built VHF/UHF/uWave and Satellite focused rig would be great >>> - small section of the market, likely, but would be great for those of >>> us who are interested there. >>> >>> 73, >>> N8YSZ. > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K1/KX1 connection with small amplifiers...ideas?
Hi All, I have a K1 and also a cute, but rugged, little Tokyo HP-45b amp, which puts out about 45W and I take it camping. I've been thinking of pairing the two. The THP amp doesn't have RF sensing for switching. Can anyone point me in the direction of a simple way to key the amp with a K1 / KX1? Are there amp keying buffer circuits you can make up and use with the K1/KX1? Perhaps someone out there has done this successfully already. I can't find much in the archives, so perhaps others have worked out that it's not worth the fuss?! :) Thanks! John VK7JB K1 #2822, K2/100 #6998, #K3 5102 -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K1-KX1-connection-with-small-amplifiers-ideas-tp6624578p6624578.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] For Sale: Ameritron AL-80B Linear Amplifier
I have an Ameritron AL-80B 1 kW amplifier for sale. It's in very good condition. I acquired it from the estate of VE3DTQ (SK), but I'm just not a QRO guy. I had it checked out by the local ham dealer and it puts out 700W on all bands except 10m, where they measured 690W. That's driving it with 85W. I was told a new 3-500Z tube would bring it right back to advertised output. I can take some photos if anyone is interested. I'd like $1,000 for it. Toronto area hams: I live in Newmarket and work in Toronto (Hwy 404 and Sheppard). I can meet you in either location. I'm not going to ship it. U.S. hams: I'll be happy to meet you in Niagara Falls, Ontario, the border crossing near Gananoque, Ontario (east end of Lake Ontario) or near Windsor, Ontario (let's say London, OK?). 73 and thanks for your time, Ken Alexander VE3HLS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K4
The K4 would be better off, with NO HF :-) Similar to the 736R and the later Icom 910H. Now that the 910H has been replaced with the higher priced Icom 9100, that includes HF. The market is short on VHF/UHF only radios with Multimode and SAT capability, as standalone radios. 73, Jack VK4JRC Sent from my iPad On 27/07/2011, at 12:18 PM, "Joe Subich, W4TV" wrote: > > Lew, > > Other than the fact that the FT-736R had all of the modules in the > case, what is the difference between a K4 such as you propose and > a K3/10 with a XV-144/XV-222/XV-432 stack? Perhaps Elecraft could > be persuaded to work on an XV-1290 to round out the offering ... > > Of more interest would be the ability to activate two of the XVs at > the same time and feed the second one to the K3's Aux input (sub RX) > for monitoring two bands, working satellites, or working cross band. > It would take some work with both the XVs and the K3 control code > but might pay off more than a VHF/UHF only "K4." > > 73, > >... Joe, W4TV > > > On 7/26/2011 8:05 PM, Lew Phelps K6LMP wrote: >> There once was sold an excellent rig (for its day) sold by Yaesu called the >> FT-736r. It was designed and marketed primarily for satellite work, but >> became very popular among VHF-UHF contesters. In fact, I know of quite few >> who still use it, but they are looking for alternatives, since the '736 is >> becoming unreliable with age. >> >> The FT-736r had internal slot for four band-specific modules (transverters); >> the owner could mix and match among 6 meter, 2 meter, 220, 440, and 1296 mhz >> SSB. The modules were rated for 25 watts output through 220 mHz and 20 watts >> on 440 and above. Its receiver was not very impressive compared with what >> you can get with a K3 and transverters, but those who own it love it. >> >> Given the physical size and relatively high running temp of existing >> Elecraft transverters, my guess is that they'd have to be redesigned for >> slightly less power output to fit within the K3 case on a K3-based >> motherboard. But 16 watts out from a transverter module into an amplifier >> with 15 db gain would yield 500 watts out, and that's plenty for the uses >> such a rig would be put to. Marry a "K4" to a purpose-built VHF/UHF >> amplifier (akin to the KPA-500) and you would have a killer rig for VHF-UHF >> contesting. >> >> As for price, take a look at the eHam reviews of the FT-736r. The basic unit >> sells today for more than $500, even though decades old, and the "scarce" >> 222 mhz and 1296 mHz modules sometimes fetch $1,000 on eBay. People who are >> into satellite work and VHF/UHF contesting would fight for a place in line >> to buy such a rig, and for many it would be a bargain compared with trying >> to set up a complete FT-736r. If space allowed, five bands would be even >> better, but since most VHF/UHF contesters use a separate rig for 6 meters >> anyway, you could get by with four, covering 2m, 1.25 m, 70 cm, and 23 cm >> bands. You can easily spend $3k or $4k to put together a comparably equipped >> FT-736, which suggests that the market would accept a price of up to $5k >> for a new and very high-quality rig such as the hypothetical K4. >> >> And it absolutely would not pirate sales from the K3, although it would put >> a dent in sales of transverters. Please don't think that's a reason for not >> producing such a radio. If Elecraft followed that philosophy we'd not have >> the K3 or KX3. >> >> >> I would sell my car and walk 25 miles to work to get a "K4". >> >> Lew K6LMP >> >> >>> On 26 Jul 2011, at 14:08, Daniel Brown wrote: >>> A purpose built VHF/UHF/uWave and Satellite focused rig would be great - small section of the market, likely, but would be great for those of us who are interested there. 73, N8YSZ. >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K4
* On 2011 26 Jul 21:19 -0500, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: > > Lew, > > Other than the fact that the FT-736R had all of the modules in the > case, what is the difference between a K4 such as you propose and > a K3/10 with a XV-144/XV-222/XV-432 stack? Perhaps Elecraft could > be persuaded to work on an XV-1290 to round out the offering ... > > Of more interest would be the ability to activate two of the XVs at > the same time and feed the second one to the K3's Aux input (sub RX) > for monitoring two bands, working satellites, or working cross band. > It would take some work with both the XVs and the K3 control code > but might pay off more than a VHF/UHF only "K4." As my interest has recently been piqued by the satellites, this was just the solution I had in mind with my K3. I day dreamed that with the sub receiver the K3 might be able to do full duplex. My reading of this list's archives led me to the conclusion that this is not possible at this time. Should the K3 be developed as you suggest, Joe, I would be happy to go that route. At the moment I have more pressing needs such as antenna construction and getting familiar with various aspects of satellite operation. For that I will concentrate on receiving and my FT-817 needs a purpose. :-) 73, de Nate N0NB >> -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K4
> The K4 would be better off, with NO HF :-) Why? Considering that 28 MHz is required as the IF for the VHF/UHF "band modules" (transverters) and the base K3/K4 would include the 8/10 Watt six meter capability, there is no cost difference/impact. I would think that providing a way to keep the sub-receiver active during transmit, allowing a second transverter to feed the sub RX for cross band/multi band receive, and providing an "inverted link" mode for the VFOs (for inverted transponder satellite work) would make the K3/10 with XV stack essentially the perfect VHF/UHF rig - other than the lack of a large case to hold the XV stack internally. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 7/26/2011 11:21 PM, Jack Chomley wrote: > > The K4 would be better off, with NO HF :-) Similar to the 736R and the later > Icom 910H. > Now that the 910H has been replaced with the higher priced Icom 9100, that > includes HF. > The market is short on VHF/UHF only radios with Multimode and SAT capability, > as standalone radios. > > 73, > > Jack VK4JRC > Sent from my iPad > > On 27/07/2011, at 12:18 PM, "Joe Subich, W4TV" wrote: > >> >> Lew, >> >> Other than the fact that the FT-736R had all of the modules in the >> case, what is the difference between a K4 such as you propose and >> a K3/10 with a XV-144/XV-222/XV-432 stack? Perhaps Elecraft could >> be persuaded to work on an XV-1290 to round out the offering ... >> >> Of more interest would be the ability to activate two of the XVs at >> the same time and feed the second one to the K3's Aux input (sub RX) >> for monitoring two bands, working satellites, or working cross band. >> It would take some work with both the XVs and the K3 control code >> but might pay off more than a VHF/UHF only "K4." >> >> 73, >> >> ... Joe, W4TV >> >> >> On 7/26/2011 8:05 PM, Lew Phelps K6LMP wrote: >>> There once was sold an excellent rig (for its day) sold by Yaesu called the >>> FT-736r. It was designed and marketed primarily for satellite work, but >>> became very popular among VHF-UHF contesters. In fact, I know of quite >>> few who still use it, but they are looking for alternatives, since the '736 >>> is becoming unreliable with age. >>> >>> The FT-736r had internal slot for four band-specific modules >>> (transverters); the owner could mix and match among 6 meter, 2 meter, 220, >>> 440, and 1296 mhz SSB. The modules were rated for 25 watts output through >>> 220 mHz and 20 watts on 440 and above. Its receiver was not very impressive >>> compared with what you can get with a K3 and transverters, but those who >>> own it love it. >>> >>> Given the physical size and relatively high running temp of existing >>> Elecraft transverters, my guess is that they'd have to be redesigned for >>> slightly less power output to fit within the K3 case on a K3-based >>> motherboard. But 16 watts out from a transverter module into an amplifier >>> with 15 db gain would yield 500 watts out, and that's plenty for the uses >>> such a rig would be put to. Marry a "K4" to a purpose-built VHF/UHF >>> amplifier (akin to the KPA-500) and you would have a killer rig for VHF-UHF >>> contesting. >>> >>> As for price, take a look at the eHam reviews of the FT-736r. The basic >>> unit sells today for more than $500, even though decades old, and the >>> "scarce" 222 mhz and 1296 mHz modules sometimes fetch $1,000 on eBay. >>> People who are into satellite work and VHF/UHF contesting would fight for a >>> place in line to buy such a rig, and for many it would be a bargain >>> compared with trying to set up a complete FT-736r. If space allowed, five >>> bands would be even better, but since most VHF/UHF contesters use a >>> separate rig for 6 meters anyway, you could get by with four, covering 2m, >>> 1.25 m, 70 cm, and 23 cm bands. You can easily spend $3k or $4k to put >>> together a comparably equipped FT-736, which suggests that the market >>> would accept a price of up to $5k for a new and very high-quality rig such >>> as the hypothetical K4. >>> >>> And it absolutely would not pirate sales from the K3, although it would put >>> a dent in sales of transverters. Please don't think that's a reason for not >>> producing such a radio. If Elecraft followed that philosophy we'd not have >>> the K3 or KX3. >>> >>> >>> I would sell my car and walk 25 miles to work to get a "K4". >>> >>> Lew K6LMP >>> >>> On 26 Jul 2011, at 14:08, Daniel Brown wrote: > A purpose built VHF/UHF/uWave and Satellite focused rig would be great > - small section of the market, likely, but would be great for those of > us who are interested there. > > 73, > N8YSZ. >>> >>> __ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this ema
Re: [Elecraft] K4
The new radio should not be a Swiss army of the frequency spectrum, but a "tour de force" of Elecraft. It should have an on board computer with a tethered human interface. It should have a generous sized display allowing the user to control the radio's function with a terse set of knobs or the human interface with the screen sharing radio functions and a spectrum analyzer. What I have seen here in the way of suggestions is just packaging more functions rather revolutionary radio changes. Radios today should be treated as a computing device whose output happens to be an RF signal. There have be some attempts at what I suggesting. However, these attempts were just too pioneering. As we say in electronics, pioneers are those that get shot in the back. But, as an outsider looking in, Elecraft seems to have in hand the ability to build a truly revolutionary radio. And, if you guys at Elecraft do this, sign me up for S/N 1. By the way, I think the new radio, the KX-3, is the trial balloon. Love my two K3s George, W6GF --- On Tue, 7/26/11, Nate Bargmann wrote: From: Nate Bargmann Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 To: Date: Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 8:40 PM * On 2011 26 Jul 21:19 -0500, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: > > Lew, > > Other than the fact that the FT-736R had all of the modules in the > case, what is the difference between a K4 such as you propose and > a K3/10 with a XV-144/XV-222/XV-432 stack? Perhaps Elecraft could > be persuaded to work on an XV-1290 to round out the offering ... > > Of more interest would be the ability to activate two of the XVs at > the same time and feed the second one to the K3's Aux input (sub RX) > for monitoring two bands, working satellites, or working cross band. > It would take some work with both the XVs and the K3 control code > but might pay off more than a VHF/UHF only "K4." As my interest has recently been piqued by the satellites, this was just the solution I had in mind with my K3. I day dreamed that with the sub receiver the K3 might be able to do full duplex. My reading of this list's archives led me to the conclusion that this is not possible at this time. Should the K3 be developed as you suggest, Joe, I would be happy to go that route. At the moment I have more pressing needs such as antenna construction and getting familiar with various aspects of satellite operation. For that I will concentrate on receiving and my FT-817 needs a purpose. :-) 73, de Nate N0NB >> -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K4
Thanks for all the input, everyone. We'll save it all up for future reference. And if you have an idea that's too hot to post to the reflector, feel free to send it to me directly. But just to be clear: there is *no* new radio in the works -- other than the KX3. Please don't call Lisa or Madelyn and ask for a K4. Please *do* ask for a K3, P3, KPA500, and a stack of transverters. 73, Wayne N6KR On Jul 26, 2011, at 9:53 PM, george fritkin wrote: > The new radio should not be a Swiss army of the frequency spectrum, > but a "tour de force" of Elecraft. It should have an on board > computer with a tethered human interface. It should have a generous > sized display allowing the user to control the radio's function > with a terse set of knobs or the human interface with the screen > sharing radio functions and a spectrum analyzer. > What I have seen here in the way of suggestions is just packaging > more functions rather revolutionary radio changes. > Radios today should be treated as a computing device whose output > happens to be an RF signal. There have be some attempts at what I > suggesting. However, these attempts were just too pioneering. As > we say in electronics, pioneers are those that get shot in the back. > But, as an outsider looking in, Elecraft seems to have in hand the > ability to build a truly revolutionary radio. And, if you guys at > Elecraft do this, sign me up for S/N 1. By the way, I think the new > radio, the KX-3, is the trial balloon. > Love my two K3s > George, W6GF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K4
Fair comment, Joe :-) Just trying to avoid the super sized radio concept. Rather see standalone purpose built radios, yes I know it can mean multiple units to make a station. If one breaks, you are not totally off air and they are less complex to drive...I need a good replacement for my 736R, that is easy to use field portable :-) 73, Jack. VK4JRC Sent from my iPad On 27/07/2011, at 1:48 PM, "Joe Subich, W4TV" wrote: > > > The K4 would be better off, with NO HF :-) > > Why? Considering that 28 MHz is required as the IF for the VHF/UHF > "band modules" (transverters) and the base K3/K4 would include the > 8/10 Watt six meter capability, there is no cost difference/impact. > > I would think that providing a way to keep the sub-receiver active > during transmit, allowing a second transverter to feed the sub RX > for cross band/multi band receive, and providing an "inverted link" > mode for the VFOs (for inverted transponder satellite work) would > make the K3/10 with XV stack essentially the perfect VHF/UHF rig - > other than the lack of a large case to hold the XV stack internally. > > 73, > > ... Joe, W4TV > > > > On 7/26/2011 11:21 PM, Jack Chomley wrote: >> >> The K4 would be better off, with NO HF :-) Similar to the 736R and the later >> Icom 910H. >> Now that the 910H has been replaced with the higher priced Icom 9100, that >> includes HF. >> The market is short on VHF/UHF only radios with Multimode and SAT >> capability, as standalone radios. >> >> 73, >> >> Jack VK4JRC >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 27/07/2011, at 12:18 PM, "Joe Subich, W4TV" wrote: >> >>> __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] A Different Look :-)
Ahem..just wonder how nice any of the Elecraft radios would look, painted in Military green?Just imagine the KX-3 in a super spy can't see me, camo colour :-) I would go 'green'.at the drop of a hat! 73, Jack VK4JRC Sent from my iPad __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] A Different Look :-)
As my wife says sometimes, what's wrong with pink? On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:34 PM, Jack Chomley wrote: > Ahem..just wonder how nice any of the Elecraft radios would look, > painted in Military green?Just imagine the KX-3 in a super spy can't see me, > camo colour :-) > I would go 'green'.at the drop of a hat! > > 73, Jack VK4JRC > -- Alexey Kats (neko) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html