[Elecraft] When VFO locked : pse keep RIT unlocked.

[F5LCI]

Here is the situation : I am on a DX dream island (HAO, OC066), I try to find
a free QRG, and don't want to move.
So I lock the VFO.
But it locks the RIT, too.
My wish : to keep the RIT unlocked.
Is it a feasible request for a next firmware, Wayne ?
72 de FO/F5LCI (lots of fun with this KX3)
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[Elecraft] KX3 backlog reduced...

[Jeff Herr]

...wow almost a month worth in a weekalmost all march kx3 orders are
done.



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Rec'd today

[Andrew Moore]

Personally I don't think they're significant issues, especially when I
consider what Elecraft was able to pack into this small, lightweight form.

They also have a record of going back to address problems and improve
features that can use it (CW+ mode, for example).

The KX3 continues to amaze me. I love this rig. It's a blend of
performance, simplicity, efficiency and packaging and UI that I've wanted
for decades. And it will be even better when the battery charger, 2 meter
module and 100 W amp are available.

--Andrew, NV1B
..


On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 10:59 PM, John Strandberg  wrote:

> Robert -  I've been a little bit wondering same as you.  It would appear my
> KX3 will ship some weeks from now.  There have been over 1000 shipped now.
>  I wonder if this is just low level reflector static or if the 'issues' are
> significant.  Unlike you, I also want but don't own a K3.
>
> 73 John W4DX
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Phones / Diversity Question

[Jack Berry]

Jim,
you can adjust the volumes independently on the front panel. But you probably 
knew that. 
Seems also that there is a config setting that needs to be adjusted for the 
volume ratio to work correctly - page 37 of the manual. 

On Aug 2, 2012, at 10:56 PM, Jim Bennett  wrote:

> I just recently added the sub receiver to my K3. I've been using the Sub 
> receiver (without diversity turned on) and all was fine. I have the Yamaha 
> CM500 headset - one cable plugged into the Phones jack and the other going to 
> the Mic jack. I also have an Icom SP-20 external speaker, and it's connected 
> to the Spkrs jack. 
> 
> Well, I engaged Diversity mode and at first thought it was working properly. 
> But, when I turned the AF to zero on the Main receiver, I realized that the 
> audio on the Sub was almost nonexistent signals are there, but really, really 
> weak. OK, so looking at the Config parameters, I noticed in the KRX3 manual 
> that SPKRS should be set to 1. Mine was set to 2. I changed it to one and now 
> have zero audio coming from the Sub receiver. Not exactly what I was hoping 
> for.
> 
> What do I need to do to get my headphone audio in Diversity mode to act as it 
> does with the Sub turned on, but Diversity off? 
> 
> Confused, I am.
> 
> Jim / W6JHB
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Phones / Diversity Question

[Mike K2MK]

Hi Jim,

One of the following might be helpful.

If you have CONFIG:SPKRS set to 1 and CONFIG:SPKR+PH set to YES it will turn
off the right channel of your headphones. Avoid the problem by turning
CONFIG:SPKR+PH to no when using diversity.

You also need to consider the setting of two other parameters which can be
confusing with respect to SUB RX use. The first is CONFIG:SUB AF. Depending
on whether you have chosen BALANCE or NOR it changes the way the concentric
audio control operates. The second is CONFIG:L-MIX-R which controls which
receiver's audio is in which ear. This control gets overridden when
diversity is used and reverts to MAIN in left ear and SUB in right ear. So
you might have one arrangement set for general SUB RX use and when you go to
diversity it changes.

73,
Mike K2MK



Jim Bennett wrote
> 
> I just recently added the sub receiver to my K3. I've been using the Sub
> receiver (without diversity turned on) and all was fine. I have the Yamaha
> CM500 headset - one cable plugged into the Phones jack and the other going
> to the Mic jack. I also have an Icom SP-20 external speaker, and it's
> connected to the Spkrs jack. 
> 
> Well, I engaged Diversity mode and at first thought it was working
> properly. But, when I turned the AF to zero on the Main receiver, I
> realized that the audio on the Sub was almost nonexistent signals are
> there, but really, really weak. OK, so looking at the Config parameters, I
> noticed in the KRX3 manual that SPKRS should be set to 1. Mine was set to
> 2. I changed it to one and now have zero audio coming from the Sub
> receiver. Not exactly what I was hoping for.
> 
> What do I need to do to get my headphone audio in Diversity mode to act as
> it does with the Sub turned on, but Diversity off? 
> 
> Confused, I am.
> 
> Jim / W6JHB
> 




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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 I/Q output for pandapter

[Tony Estep]

On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:52 PM,  wrote:

> ...I have not been able to get VAC to work with NaP3


If you can get VAC to work with something else, it should also work with
NaP3.  Set up 2 cables, SR=11025, 96000 rate, 8..32 bps, NC 1..2, source
line Line. Max inst 20, Ms 5, Cable range.
Then set the output of NaP3 to Line 1 Virtual and set the input of your
digital program (e.g. MixW2) to Line 1 Virtual. That ought to do it. If
not, I am out of suggestions, but it should work.

Note that the sound card for your digital program shouldn't be the same
sound card used to decode the I-Q.


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Re: [Elecraft] LiFePO4 Battery Pack Performance

[Pierre]

A question: I have an automatic sealed battery charger for my 12V Pb-Ac
battery.
From:
http://www.ctcbattery.com/LiFePO4-Rechargeable-Battery/CTC-12-8V-4-5Ah-57-6Wh-Lithium-Iron-Phosphate-LiFePO4-Rechargeable-Battery

I read "Require no change to a lead acid battery charging system"

Does it means that my old charger will also work with those batteries?

73 de Pierre KX3 S/N 190



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Re: [Elecraft] When VFO locked : pse keep RIT unlocked

[Paul Kirley]

FO/F5LCI sed:
> Here is the situation : I am on a DX dream island (HAO, OC066), I try
to find
> a free QRG, and don't want to move.
> So I lock the VFO.
> But it locks the RIT, too.
> My wish : to keep the RIT unlocked.

In this situation, why not lock VFO B and operate split?  

>From the KX3 manual:
To lock VFO A: Hold KHZ for about 3 seconds.
Tap RATE to unlock. To lock VFO B, swap it with
A first, lock, then swap back.

73, Paul W8TM

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Re: [Elecraft] LiFePO4 Battery Pack Performance

[Ignacy]

This batter seems to have a PCB that prevents overcharging so you may be good
with any charger.

 A good lead acid battery charger should have a cutoff at about 14.5 V,
which is good for 12.8V LiFePO4 battery. I found that some chargers actually
produce up to 18V but perhaps at a very low current. So it would help to
check.

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Rec'd today

[John Strandberg]

Don & Andrew,

Thanks for taking the time to respond and for the much appreciated
information.  I have been following Elecraft and its product line since
2009 and developed a strong desire to own an Elecraft radio.  I had pretty
much settled on idea of building the K2 at the first of 2012.  The K2 would
provide me with a lot of new HF experiences including finally getting to
own an Elecaft.  The eventual goal is to have the K3 in the shack and the
K2 for portable, other operating locations and backup.  The release of the
KX3 through a  curve ball.  I went back and forth K2 vs KX3 for the first 6
months of the year.  Finally in June, the KX3 became the overwhelming
choice and the order was placed.  I am really looking forward to this radio
and all the new capabilities I'll get to explore.

In watching the reflector, I've gained more insight into the level of
knowledge, experience and realtime Elecraft support.  I certainly
recognized many issues were quickly acknowledged/addressed and that build
issues are quite often builder-related (I'm going try to make mental effort
to slow myself down during the build).  Instead of listing any questions I
might have had (all in the past have been addressed and anything current I
sure will be taken care of), I'm going the let my ambiguous 'low level
static' comment drift away.

I am really impressed with the support and information made readily
available in the Elecraft community.  A friend of mine had a recent problem
with his K2 PA.  With help from the reflector and Eleccraft tech support,
he repaired it himself and a very short time. Don, I think you helped with
that one.  So, good luck with your K2 endeavor and have fun.

Thanks and 73
John W4DX

On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 2:18 AM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:

> John,
>
> Please be assured that all valid issues will be addressed by Elecraft.
> There have been some posts that speak to operator errors, but for those
> that address real failures, they will be addressed.
>
> If you have specific concerns, please feel free to post them here to the
> Elecraft reflector, you should receive a response - if that response is
> from someone like me who had been "*associated* with Elecraft since
> 1999, it may reflect Elecraft operating policies that I have been
> accustomed to, but not necessarily an "official" response.  Other items
> are fair game - including "why does the K2 that I am currently working
> on fail the PLL Reference test" that I will be attacking tomorrow.
>
> The lack of specifics in your post just causes the "low level static" to
> be increased.  We can respond to specific questions, but the "low level
> static" must remain just that because it does not address any specific
> condition.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>
> 59 PM, ohn Strandberg wrote:
> > Robert -  I've been a little bit wondering same as you.  It would appear
> my
> > KX3 will ship some weeks from now.  There have been over 1000 shipped
> now.
> >   I wonder if this is just low level reflector static or if the 'issues'
> are
> > significant.  Unlike you, I also want but don't own a K3.
> >
> > 73 John W4DX
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 9:36 PM, kp4y  wrote:
> >
> >> I was notified today that my KX3 is on the way, yeah! I know that I will
> >> like it the same way I like my K3, but when I hear issues like this and
> the
> >> case vibration, I wonder if I made a good decision. Are these issues not
> >> getting worked out at factory as we speak? At near $1,400 for a QRP rig,
> >> this is an expensive toy as to be needing this type of "home made fixes"
> >>
> >> 73's
> >> Robert - KP4Y
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from Samsung tabletAndrew Moore  wrote:Tex
> -
> >> if you're referring to the scratchy mechanical noise that occurs when
> >> you rotate the encoder even when the KX3 is powered off, it seems that
> can
> >> be solved by carefully removing the main tuning knob (remove rubber
> sleeve
> >> to access the hex screw opening), carefully removing the circlip and
> washer
> >> from the shaft, and polishing/greasing them. There is no need to remove
> the
> >> nut that secures the encoder.
> >>
> >> Here's a post on the subject by Mike / W5EEA. I went through this
> process
> >> myself and it cured the scratchy. I did not polish the circlip or
> attempt
> >> to flatten the washer - I only applied some "fine polishing creme for
> all
> >> metals" to each side of the washer and polished that with a Dremel tool,
> >> then applied some white lithium grease to both sides and put it all back
> >> together. Scratchy is about 95 percent gone.
> >>
> >> Please be careful.. and obviously this is not an Elecraft-endorsed mod.
> >>
> >> Mike's post follows.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> --Andrew, NV1B
> >> ..
> >>
> >> ---
> >>
> >> From: mikew5...@hotmail.com
> >> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> >> Subject: KX3 encoder noise fixfor some
> >> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 08:39:52 -0600
> >>
> >> PLEASE DO NOT TRY THIS FIX..unless you read this and think 'I have no
> >> problem doing this'

[Elecraft] K3 plain-language saved configuration?

[Richard Fjeld]

"Ham Radio Deluxe used to be able to do that, but I haven't used that in
a couple of years."

Just a 'heads up', I have noticed that shortly before the last free download, I 
saw that we lost some logging features.  Maybe others? ? I went back to my 
older version. FWIW.

Richard Fjeld, NØCE


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[Elecraft] Unhappy With Your KX3?

[Kevin Kleinfelter]

I'm interested in buying the KX3, but it is a lot of money for me; I want
to be sure not to make an expensive mistake.  So I started searching the
net for someone who is unhappy with his/her KX3.  The closest I got was
someone who said he hated his KX3 and was going to send it back -- until
Elecraft contacted him, helped him make a config change, and now he loves
it.

So... If you are unhappy with your KX3, please respond with why.  (I'm not
looking for things that could be tweaked to make it better. I'm looking for
"Here's why I really wish I had NOT bought my KX3" or "Here's why I really
wish I had bought xyz instead.")

If you don't want to post it to the list, please send it to me at
do-not-like-kx3 [at] kleinfelter [dot] com.
TIA
Kevin
KK4KIK
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 plain-language saved configuration?

[Rick Ruhl]

Richard,

 

No logging features were lost.  In fact, we added a brand new lookup option
which makes prefix lookups almost 100% bullet proof.

 

We just need to config some new settings for you.. all is NOT lost! LOL

 

Current and last free release is 5.24.28.

 

BTW, Eric has a K3 on the way to me, so we’ll final be able to fix all those
nagging issues with HRD and the Elecraft. Trying to code it without a radio
is like shooting birds on a moonless night LOL

 

Rick – W4PC

 

http://www.ham-radio-deluxe.com

 



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Subject: 

[Elecraft] K3 plain-language saved configuration?


Date: 

Fri, 3 Aug 2012 11:21:11 -0500


From: 

Richard Fjeld   


To: 

elecraft posting  


 

"Ham Radio Deluxe used to be able to do that, but I haven't used that in
a couple of years."
 
Just a 'heads up', I have noticed that shortly before the last free
download, I saw that we lost some logging features.  Maybe others? ? I
went back to my older version. FWIW.
 
Richard Fjeld, NØCE
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Phones / Diversity Question

[Jim Bennett]

Still have issues with this. Here are the settings in Config that I'm assuming 
are relevant:

L-Mix-R = A  b
SPKRS = 1
SPKR + Ph = no
SQ Main = Sub Pot
SQ Sub = Sub Pot
Sub AF = Nor

With these Config settings, the K3 works fine with the SubRX turned off; equal 
Main audio in both headphones. When I turn on the SubRX, it is still OK; I get 
Main audio in the left ear and Sub audio in the right ear. I know I'm getting 
the Sub audio in the right ear, as I can turn the sub VFO and hear the 
frequency change in my right ear. BUT, as soon as I turn on Diversity, I get 
almost no signal in the right ear. It isn't silent - it's just that the signal 
that is pounding in on the Main is nearly inaudible on the Sub. If the signal 
being received on the Main is less than S7, I can't even hear it on the Sub 
with Diversity turned on. If it is an S9 or greater signal, then I can just 
barely hear it on the Sub when Diversity is turned on.

Very strange. The SubRX works fine until Diversity mode is enabled.

Any ideas? Does this need to be escalated to Elecraft Tech Support?


On   Friday, Aug 3, 2012, at  Friday, 6:02 AM, Mike K2MK wrote:

> Hi Jim,
> 
> One of the following might be helpful.
> 
> If you have CONFIG:SPKRS set to 1 and CONFIG:SPKR+PH set to YES it will turn
> off the right channel of your headphones. Avoid the problem by turning
> CONFIG:SPKR+PH to no when using diversity.
> 
> You also need to consider the setting of two other parameters which can be
> confusing with respect to SUB RX use. The first is CONFIG:SUB AF. Depending
> on whether you have chosen BALANCE or NOR it changes the way the concentric
> audio control operates. The second is CONFIG:L-MIX-R which controls which
> receiver's audio is in which ear. This control gets overridden when
> diversity is used and reverts to MAIN in left ear and SUB in right ear. So
> you might have one arrangement set for general SUB RX use and when you go to
> diversity it changes.
> 
> 73,
> Mike K2MK
> 
> 
> 
> Jim Bennett wrote
>> 
>> I just recently added the sub receiver to my K3. I've been using the Sub
>> receiver (without diversity turned on) and all was fine. I have the Yamaha
>> CM500 headset - one cable plugged into the Phones jack and the other going
>> to the Mic jack. I also have an Icom SP-20 external speaker, and it's
>> connected to the Spkrs jack. 
>> 
>> Well, I engaged Diversity mode and at first thought it was working
>> properly. But, when I turned the AF to zero on the Main receiver, I
>> realized that the audio on the Sub was almost nonexistent signals are
>> there, but really, really weak. OK, so looking at the Config parameters, I
>> noticed in the KRX3 manual that SPKRS should be set to 1. Mine was set to
>> 2. I changed it to one and now have zero audio coming from the Sub
>> receiver. Not exactly what I was hoping for.
>> 
>> What do I need to do to get my headphone audio in Diversity mode to act as
>> it does with the Sub turned on, but Diversity off? 
>> 
>> Confused, I am.
>> 
>> Jim / W6JHB
>> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Phones / Diversity Question

[Scott Manthe]

Do you have a separate receiver antenna connected to the KRX3? If so, is 
the KRX3 configured properly to use it?

73,
Scott, N9AA


On 8/3/12 1:16 PM, Jim Bennett wrote:
> Still have issues with this. Here are the settings in Config that I'm 
> assuming are relevant:
>
> L-Mix-R = A  b
> SPKRS = 1
> SPKR + Ph = no
> SQ Main = Sub Pot
> SQ Sub = Sub Pot
> Sub AF = Nor
>
> With these Config settings, the K3 works fine with the SubRX turned off; 
> equal Main audio in both headphones. When I turn on the SubRX, it is still 
> OK; I get Main audio in the left ear and Sub audio in the right ear. I know 
> I'm getting the Sub audio in the right ear, as I can turn the sub VFO and 
> hear the frequency change in my right ear. BUT, as soon as I turn on 
> Diversity, I get almost no signal in the right ear. It isn't silent - it's 
> just that the signal that is pounding in on the Main is nearly inaudible on 
> the Sub. If the signal being received on the Main is less than S7, I can't 
> even hear it on the Sub with Diversity turned on. If it is an S9 or greater 
> signal, then I can just barely hear it on the Sub when Diversity is turned on.
>
> Very strange. The SubRX works fine until Diversity mode is enabled.
>
> Any ideas? Does this need to be escalated to Elecraft Tech Support?
>
>
>

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Phones / Diversity Question

[Jim Bennett]

Hi Scott, yes - there is a separate antenna. I have an 88 foot long doublet 
connected to ANT 1 and a ground mounted Hustler 5BTV connected to Ant 2. In 
CONFIG, I have KRX3 ANT = ATU. So, if I understand correctly, Main uses Ant 1 
and Sub uses Ant2. But, I just did an experiment and unhooked Ant 2 while 
listening to the Sub w/o Diversity turned on. Signals did not drop off. So, it 
sounds like they are sharing Ant 1. Time to putt off the top cover and see what 
I've done. Stay tuned…..

Jim

On   Friday, Aug 3, 2012, at  Friday, 10:24 AM, Scott Manthe wrote:

> Do you have a separate receiver antenna connected to the KRX3? If so, is 
> the KRX3 configured properly to use it?
> 
> 73,
> Scott, N9AA
> 
> 
> On 8/3/12 1:16 PM, Jim Bennett wrote:
>> Still have issues with this. Here are the settings in Config that I'm 
>> assuming are relevant:
>> 
>> L-Mix-R = A  b
>> SPKRS = 1
>> SPKR + Ph = no
>> SQ Main = Sub Pot
>> SQ Sub = Sub Pot
>> Sub AF = Nor
>> 
>> With these Config settings, the K3 works fine with the SubRX turned off; 
>> equal Main audio in both headphones. When I turn on the SubRX, it is still 
>> OK; I get Main audio in the left ear and Sub audio in the right ear. I know 
>> I'm getting the Sub audio in the right ear, as I can turn the sub VFO and 
>> hear the frequency change in my right ear. BUT, as soon as I turn on 
>> Diversity, I get almost no signal in the right ear. It isn't silent - it's 
>> just that the signal that is pounding in on the Main is nearly inaudible on 
>> the Sub. If the signal being received on the Main is less than S7, I can't 
>> even hear it on the Sub with Diversity turned on. If it is an S9 or greater 
>> signal, then I can just barely hear it on the Sub when Diversity is turned 
>> on.
>> 
>> Very strange. The SubRX works fine until Diversity mode is enabled.
>> 
>> Any ideas? Does this need to be escalated to Elecraft Tech Support?
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 100, Issue 5

[Jeff Drew]

Assembled KX3  wait time is now 4 months is that correct?
Jeff, N4JDU

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>   1. When VFO locked : pse keep RIT unlocked. (F5LCI)
>   2. KX3 backlog reduced... (Jeff Herr)
>   3. Re: KX3 Rec'd today (Andrew Moore)
>   4. Re: K3 Phones / Diversity Question (Jack Berry)
>   5. Re: K3 Phones / Diversity Question (Mike K2MK)
>   6. Re: KX3 I/Q output for pandapter (Tony Estep)
>   7. Re: LiFePO4 Battery Pack Performance (Pierre)
>   8. Re: When VFO locked : pse keep RIT unlocked (Paul Kirley)
>   9. Re: LiFePO4 Battery Pack Performance (Ignacy)
>  10. Re: KX3 Rec'd today (John Strandberg)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 00:05:47 -0700 (PDT)
> From: F5LCI 
> Subject: [Elecraft] When VFO locked : pse keep RIT unlocked.
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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> Here is the situation : I am on a DX dream island (HAO, OC066), I try to find
> a free QRG, and don't want to move.
> So I lock the VFO.
> But it locks the RIT, too.
> My wish : to keep the RIT unlocked.
> Is it a feasible request for a next firmware, Wayne ?
> 72 de FO/F5LCI (lots of fun with this KX3)
> /
> "To nobody, except those who will take pleasure here" (Franz Schubert,
> 1797-1828)/
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 05:49:21 -0700
> From: "Jeff Herr" 
> Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 backlog reduced...
> To: 
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> ...wow almost a month worth in a weekalmost all march kx3 orders are
> done.
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 08:53:17 -0400
> From: Andrew Moore 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Rec'd today
> To: John Strandberg 
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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> Personally I don't think they're significant issues, especially when I
> consider what Elecraft was able to pack into this small, lightweight form.
> 
> They also have a record of going back to address problems and improve
> features that can use it (CW+ mode, for example).
> 
> The KX3 continues to amaze me. I love this rig. It's a blend of
> performance, simplicity, efficiency and packaging and UI that I've wanted
> for decades. And it will be even better when the battery charger, 2 meter
> module and 100 W amp are available.
> 
> --Andrew, NV1B
> ..
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 10:59 PM, John Strandberg  wrote:
> 
>> Robert -  I've been a little bit wondering same as you.  It would appear my
>> KX3 will ship some weeks from now.  There have been over 1000 shipped now.
>> I wonder if this is just low level reflector static or if the 'issues' are
>> significant.  Unlike you, I also want but don't own a K3.
>> 
>> 73 John W4DX
>> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 07:59:18 -0500
> From: Jack Berry 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Phones / Diversity Question
> To: Jim Bennett , elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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> 
> Jim,
> you can adjust the volumes independently on the front panel. But you probably 
> knew that. 
> Seems also that there is a config setting that needs to be adjusted for the 
> volume ratio to work correctly - page 37 of the manual. 
> 
> On Aug 2, 2012, at 10:56 PM, Jim Bennett  wrote:
> 
>> I just recently added the sub receiver to my K3. I've been using the Sub 
>> receiver (without diversity turned on) and all was fine. I have the Yamaha 
>> CM500 headset - one cable plugged into the Phones jack and the other going 
>> to the Mic jack. I also have an Icom SP-20 external speaker, and it's 
>> connected to the Spkrs jack. 
>> 
>> Well, I engaged Diversity mode and at first thought it was working properly. 
>> But, when I turned the AF to zero on the Main receiver, I realized that the 
>> audio on the Sub was almost nonexistent signals are there, but really, 
>> really weak. OK, so looking at the Config parameters, I noticed in the KRX3 
>> manual that 

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Phones / Diversity Question

[Mike K2MK]

Hi Jim,

I have my SUB antenna input connected to the AUX jack so my explanation may
have to be varied a bit to coincide with your setup. When using the SUB RX
(not diversity) it is possible to change the antenna to either the MAIN or
AUX antenna by holding the RX ANT button. The word MAIN or AUX appears
momentarily in the lower display. If I choose MAIN, however, and then long
hold the SUB button to turn on diversity, the K3 "automatically" changes the
SUB RX antenna selection to AUX. This is reasonable since diversity requires
separate antennas but if you don't have an antenna connected to the AUX jack
or if you have wired the jack incorrectly internally you will suddenly lose
volume in your right ear.

73,
Mike K2MK



Jim Bennett wrote
> 
> Hi Scott, yes - there is a separate antenna. I have an 88 foot long
> doublet connected to ANT 1 and a ground mounted Hustler 5BTV connected to
> Ant 2. In CONFIG, I have KRX3 ANT = ATU. So, if I understand correctly,
> Main uses Ant 1 and Sub uses Ant2. But, I just did an experiment and
> unhooked Ant 2 while listening to the Sub w/o Diversity turned on. Signals
> did not drop off. So, it sounds like they are sharing Ant 1. Time to putt
> off the top cover and see what I've done. Stay tuned…..
> 
> Jim
> 
> On   Friday, Aug 3, 2012, at  Friday, 10:24 AM, Scott Manthe wrote:
> 
>> Do you have a separate receiver antenna connected to the KRX3? If so, is 
>> the KRX3 configured properly to use it?
>> 
>> 73,
>> Scott, N9AA
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/3/12 1:16 PM, Jim Bennett wrote:
>>> Still have issues with this. Here are the settings in Config that I'm
>>> assuming are relevant:
>>> 
>>> L-Mix-R = A  b
>>> SPKRS = 1
>>> SPKR + Ph = no
>>> SQ Main = Sub Pot
>>> SQ Sub = Sub Pot
>>> Sub AF = Nor
>>> 
>>> With these Config settings, the K3 works fine with the SubRX turned off;
>>> equal Main audio in both headphones. When I turn on the SubRX, it is
>>> still OK; I get Main audio in the left ear and Sub audio in the right
>>> ear. I know I'm getting the Sub audio in the right ear, as I can turn
>>> the sub VFO and hear the frequency change in my right ear. BUT, as soon
>>> as I turn on Diversity, I get almost no signal in the right ear. It
>>> isn't silent - it's just that the signal that is pounding in on the Main
>>> is nearly inaudible on the Sub. If the signal being received on the Main
>>> is less than S7, I can't even hear it on the Sub with Diversity turned
>>> on. If it is an S9 or greater signal, then I can just barely hear it on
>>> the Sub when Diversity is turned on.
>>> 
>>> Very strange. The SubRX works fine until Diversity mode is enabled.
>>> 
>>> Any ideas? Does this need to be escalated to Elecraft Tech Support?
> 




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[Elecraft] KAT500 Remote Refresh?

[Sean Logghe]

Now that I have moved on to the "hold my breath until UPS shows up" phase of
my KX3 experience, and the delivery estimate for the KAT500 has been reset
to Aug.31 - Sep. 7, and Eric is (apparently) back from vacation,  :-)  , I
thought I might bring my earlier request back to the top-o-the-heap.

 

I suspect this falls in Eric's court and won't get a response until he digs
out from under the "post-vacation blues" but add my voice to the requests
for any update information about a remote version of the KAT500 antenna
tuner.
 
Any availability/delivery information would be great. Even negative info,
like "definitely not before 1/1/13" for example.
 
Of course, potential functional descriptions would be exciting, as well.
 
I know, I must have a masochistic streak as I wait patiently in the queue
for my ordered KX3 (March 2nd), and ordered KAT500 (Dayton). (That's still
on track for 15 AUG, right?)  And now I want to tee up another product to
wait for?  :-)  Oy vey! But, contest season approaches and decisions beg to
be made.
 
 They say patience is a virtue so I must be very virtuous, or maybe I am the
exception that proves the rule?  ;)  (Take that however you wish!)
 
So here is a plea for any information that your business plan allows you to
share.
 
Thanks and best regards,
 
Sean Logghe
 
KB2CKN
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Phones / Diversity Question

[Jim Bennett]

H…. I'm on the path here. Found that BSET was sitting at Main, so the Sub 
and Main were sharing an antenna, which they don't do in Diversity. I changed 
this to Aux, and now I see that the Sub is using Ant 2 and Main is using Ant 1. 
That was the good news. The bad news is that there are no signals being heard 
on the Sub, no matter which external antenna is connected to it. The CONFIG 
setting is Ant = ATU, so it's time to putt the K3 apart and see what is 
happening. Perhaps the cable from the Kat3 is disconnected. Or worse, maybe 
that ^&&%$$ little connector broke off the KRX3 board when I plugged in the TMP 
cable. Will let y'all know what I find.

On   Friday, Aug 3, 2012, at  Friday, 10:59 AM, Jim Bennett wrote:

> Hi Scott, yes - there is a separate antenna. I have an 88 foot long doublet 
> connected to ANT 1 and a ground mounted Hustler 5BTV connected to Ant 2. In 
> CONFIG, I have KRX3 ANT = ATU. So, if I understand correctly, Main uses Ant 1 
> and Sub uses Ant2. But, I just did an experiment and unhooked Ant 2 while 
> listening to the Sub w/o Diversity turned on. Signals did not drop off. So, 
> it sounds like they are sharing Ant 1. Time to putt off the top cover and see 
> what I've done. Stay tuned…..
> 
> Jim
> 
> On   Friday, Aug 3, 2012, at  Friday, 10:24 AM, Scott Manthe wrote:
> 
>> Do you have a separate receiver antenna connected to the KRX3? If so, is 
>> the KRX3 configured properly to use it?
>> 
>> 73,
>> Scott, N9AA
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/3/12 1:16 PM, Jim Bennett wrote:
>>> Still have issues with this. Here are the settings in Config that I'm 
>>> assuming are relevant:
>>> 
>>> L-Mix-R = A  b
>>> SPKRS = 1
>>> SPKR + Ph = no
>>> SQ Main = Sub Pot
>>> SQ Sub = Sub Pot
>>> Sub AF = Nor
>>> 
>>> With these Config settings, the K3 works fine with the SubRX turned off; 
>>> equal Main audio in both headphones. When I turn on the SubRX, it is still 
>>> OK; I get Main audio in the left ear and Sub audio in the right ear. I know 
>>> I'm getting the Sub audio in the right ear, as I can turn the sub VFO and 
>>> hear the frequency change in my right ear. BUT, as soon as I turn on 
>>> Diversity, I get almost no signal in the right ear. It isn't silent - it's 
>>> just that the signal that is pounding in on the Main is nearly inaudible on 
>>> the Sub. If the signal being received on the Main is less than S7, I can't 
>>> even hear it on the Sub with Diversity turned on. If it is an S9 or greater 
>>> signal, then I can just barely hear it on the Sub when Diversity is turned 
>>> on.
>>> 
>>> Very strange. The SubRX works fine until Diversity mode is enabled.
>>> 
>>> Any ideas? Does this need to be escalated to Elecraft Tech Support?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Lead Time

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

Now at 60 days and dropping :-)

For the latest info see:
http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_shipping_status.htm

73,

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> Assembled KX3  wait time is now 4 months is that correct?
> Jeff, N4JDU
>
> Sent from my iPad
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Phones / Diversity Question

[N5GE]

The diversity receive antenna (DRA) must be connected to the AUX antenna on the
back of the K3.  Unless your DRA has the same gain as the transmit antenna you
will need to use a Preamp on the DRA.

I use a DRA that is a 38 inch diameter loop of aluminum tubing that I can rotate
to peak up the signal of the far off station.  That loop has a 35 dB LNA
attached.

Most of us don't have the space to erect a large receive only, so we use smaller
antennae for the DRA.  If you are one who has the property to make a full size
DRA, then you can probably get by without a Preamp unless you locate the DRA as
far away from the TX antenna as possible.  The old ship to shore stations used
to locate the DRA and RX antennas miles from the transmitter, so since most of
us can't do that, here are some links to specialized RX antennas.

http://www.pixelsatradio.com/product/shortwave-magnetic-loop-antenna/

http://www.dxengineering.com/search/department/antennas/brand/dx-engineering/part-type/hf-receive-antennas

Don't let this discourage you.  The antenna I use is the one from PixelSat
Radio, but you can make one just like it yourself if you like to build things.

Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
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On Fri, 03 Aug 2012 10:16:18 -0700, Jim Bennett  wrote:

>Still have issues with this. Here are the settings in Config that I'm assuming 
>are relevant:
>
>L-Mix-R = A  b
>SPKRS = 1
>SPKR + Ph = no
>SQ Main = Sub Pot
>SQ Sub = Sub Pot
>Sub AF = Nor
>
>With these Config settings, the K3 works fine with the SubRX turned off; equal 
>Main audio in both headphones. When I turn on the SubRX, it is still OK; I get 
>Main audio in the left ear and Sub audio in the right ear. I know I'm getting 
>the Sub audio in the right ear, as I can turn the sub VFO and hear the 
>frequency change in my right ear. BUT, as soon as I turn on Diversity, I get 
>almost no signal in the right ear. It isn't silent - it's just that the signal 
>that is pounding in on the Main is nearly inaudible on the Sub. If the signal 
>being received on the Main is less than S7, I can't even hear it on the Sub 
>with Diversity turned on. If it is an S9 or greater signal, then I can just 
>barely hear it on the Sub when Diversity is turned on.
>
>Very strange. The SubRX works fine until Diversity mode is enabled.
>
>Any ideas? Does this need to be escalated to Elecraft Tech Support?
>
>
>On   Friday, Aug 3, 2012, at  Friday, 6:02 AM, Mike K2MK wrote:
>
>> Hi Jim,
>> 
>> One of the following might be helpful.
>> 
>> If you have CONFIG:SPKRS set to 1 and CONFIG:SPKR+PH set to YES it will turn
>> off the right channel of your headphones. Avoid the problem by turning
>> CONFIG:SPKR+PH to no when using diversity.
>> 
>> You also need to consider the setting of two other parameters which can be
>> confusing with respect to SUB RX use. The first is CONFIG:SUB AF. Depending
>> on whether you have chosen BALANCE or NOR it changes the way the concentric
>> audio control operates. The second is CONFIG:L-MIX-R which controls which
>> receiver's audio is in which ear. This control gets overridden when
>> diversity is used and reverts to MAIN in left ear and SUB in right ear. So
>> you might have one arrangement set for general SUB RX use and when you go to
>> diversity it changes.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Mike K2MK
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jim Bennett wrote
>>> 
>>> I just recently added the sub receiver to my K3. I've been using the Sub
>>> receiver (without diversity turned on) and all was fine. I have the Yamaha
>>> CM500 headset - one cable plugged into the Phones jack and the other going
>>> to the Mic jack. I also have an Icom SP-20 external speaker, and it's
>>> connected to the Spkrs jack. 
>>> 
>>> Well, I engaged Diversity mode and at first thought it was working
>>> properly. But, when I turned the AF to zero on the Main receiver, I
>>> realized that the audio on the Sub was almost nonexistent signals are
>>> there, but really, really weak. OK, so looking at the Config parameters, I
>>> noticed in the KRX3 manual that SPKRS should be set to 1. Mine was set to
>>> 2. I changed it to one and now have zero audio coming from the Sub
>>> receiver. Not exactly what I was hoping for.
>>> 
>>> What do I need to do to get my headphone audio in Diversity mode to act as
>>> it does with the Sub turned on, but Diversity off? 
>>> 
>>> Confused, I am.
>>> 
>>> Jim / W6JHB
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 plain-language saved configuration?

[Bill]

That is good news - I might become a paying HRD customer yet.

Bill W2BLC


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Re: [Elecraft] Unhappy With Your KX3?

[Rick Stealey]

You're posting this on the wrong reflector OM.
You would have better luck over on the Icom and Yaesu reflectors,
but don't hold your breath.

Rick  K2XT
  
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Re: [Elecraft] Unhappy With Your KX3?

[Rick Stealey]

Since I saw the original post I've been thinking
IF (a big IF) you managed to locate ONE OWNER who fit your criteria and he 
responded to you,
what are you going to do, trust his judgement or opinion of the other ONE or 
TWO THOUSAND 
on the other side of the fence? !!

The KX3 was designed by Wayne Burdick.  He is on here every day, reading, 
listening
to his customers and responding, making them happy.  If you don't get a KX3 
what are
you going to get, an FT-817?  Who designed your 817?  How do you contact HIM if
you have a question or a concern?Where do the factory design teams for the 
FT5000 or
the TS990 hang out?  Could you pass along the reflector name or the web site?

Rick  K2XT
  
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Lead Time

[Thomas Horsten]

Hi Eric,

60 days, down from 6 months (I ordered mine on Dec 28 and received it in
early July), you guys have done a great job in this roll out given the
extreme demand. Imagine there's already more than 1000 KX3's out there.
Still, you've managed to keep up top notch customer service, I've had
replies to my queries within a day both times I contacted your crew (parts
team).

It's just a mind-blowing rig and you have a mind-blowing company, but I
wouldn't be surprised if the lead time goes back up once the official
reviews start hitting the masses, with the influx of orders bound to be
generated from that.

Congratulations to you, Wayne and everyone else on the team.

73, Thomas M0TRN

On 3 August 2012 19:25, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:

> Now at 60 days and dropping :-)
>
> For the latest info see:
> http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_shipping_status.htm
>
> 73,
>
> Eric
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[Elecraft] Are we there yet?

[Vic K2VCO]

Many years ago, my daughter was 4 (she is now 44). We used to drive between San 
Francisco 
and Fresno a lot, and she would sit in the back seat and ask "are we there 
yet?" 
constantly. It drove us bloody nuts.

Just sayin'.

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Re: [Elecraft] Unhappy With Your KX3?

[Tony Estep]

On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Rick Stealey  wrote:

> ...If you don't get a KX3 what are you going to get, an FT-817?...


ROFLMAO!

Tony KT0NY



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Re: [Elecraft] Are we there yet?

[Ken G Kopp]

Think "they" will recognize themselves?  Even the K3's initial long delivery
times didn't generate this much hand-wringing!  Mine took seven months!

73!

Ken - K0PP
kengk...@gmail.com
>
>
>
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Vic K2VCO  wrote:
Many years ago, my daughter was 4 (she is now 44). We used to drive between
San Francisco and Fresno a lot, and she would sit in the back seat and ask "are
we there yet?" ...  constantly. It drove us bloody nuts.
>
> Just sayin'.
>
> --
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> Fresno CA
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Re: [Elecraft] Unhappy With Your KX3?

[Don Wilhelm]

NAH, the decision is only between a K3 and a KX3 - both "top of the 
line" transceivers.  Want one for home only, the K3 is the obvious 
choice -- want one that will do both home and portable, the KX3 is the 
best.  Yes, with the KX3 choice, you will have to wait a bit for the 
battery charger, and the 100 watt amplifier and tuner, and there are not 
direct connectors that are usable for data modes - for the K3, the 100 
watt amp and tuner are already "there" and the connection possibilities 
are greater than that for the KX3.   The 817 is "old iron" and does not 
rate up there with Elecraft gear in the Sherwood (and ARRL) ratings.  
Yes, the test results for the KX3 are not yet in, but I believe you will 
not be disappointed.  You will not find a comparable radio that you can 
hold in your hand and run on batteries.  I believe the KX3 will be shown 
to be able to compete with contest grade receivers when all the "i's" 
are dotted and the "t's" are crossed.

I have done only rudimentary measurements on my KX3, but it "blows the 
socks" off everything else I have other than the K3.  I have tested 
dynamic range and  MDS, and it exceeds my FTY-817, FT-900, and FT-847 by 
a wide margin.  Yes, it is better than the K2, but not by a whole lot. I 
have not attempted to do the other principle tests that are done by 
Sherwood and the ARRL.  I have done the testing that is meaningful to me.

The K3 is better, but is not a radio that you can hold in your hand, so 
comparing the K3 and the KX3 is sort of an "apples to oranges" 
comparison IMHO.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/3/2012 4:13 PM, Tony Estep wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Rick Stealey  wrote:
>
>> ...If you don't get a KX3 what are you going to get, an FT-817?...
> 
> ROFLMAO!
>
> Tony KT0NY
>
>
>

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Re: [Elecraft] Are we there yet?

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

I had the same situation with my daughter driving between San Francisco and
Los Angeles along US 101 for a number of years in the 1960's, except that my
daughter slept like a stone in the car until she was about six. 

I handled it the same way Elecraft has done. In my case, I taught her to
read a map. That kept her engrossed for many trips, following our progress
along the 400 mile route. As she grew old enough she exercised her
arithmetic skills to calculate the mileage and travel time. 

The corollary for Elecraft are the posts saying "Whoo-hoo I'm now XXX on the
list!"

73, Ron AC7AC

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Vic K2VCO
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 1:12 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] Are we there yet?

Many years ago, my daughter was 4 (she is now 44). We used to drive between
San Francisco and Fresno a lot, and she would sit in the back seat and ask
"are we there yet?" 
constantly. It drove us bloody nuts.

Just sayin'.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Phones / Diversity Question

[Jim Bennett]

Not necessarily so. The DRA can be either an antenna connected to the Aux jack 
OR it can be ANT1 or ANT2, whichever is not being used by the Main receiver. In 
my case, I'm set up for the latter. I can switch the SubRX between ANT1 and 
ANT2 by going this way. It affords me the ability to transmit on my Hustler 
5BTV if I so choose, while using the doublet for receive. I don't think I'd 
normally do it like that, but I can if I want. Had I opted to put my other 
antenna on the Aux (Rx Ant) jack, it would only be useable as a receive antenna.

Anyway, I've solved the problem. Shortly after installing my SubRX, I also 
installed the K144XV 2 meter module. Had a small user problem with filter 
installation on the main receiver, and in my haste to get things put back 
together, I managed to connect the TMP cable from the 2 meter antenna to the 
SubRX input port. No wonder I had such extremely weak signals when I went to 
diversity mode - a 2 meter ground plane antenna mounted just above roof level 
makes a horrible 20 meter receiving antenna!!! 

Interestingly, having done that, it also meant that the cable from the KAT3 
that should have gone to the SubRX was connected into the 2 Meter module. This 
had the unusual result of the K3 outputting it's 10 watts of 144 MHz RF into a 
ground-mounted 40-10 meter HF vertical. And it worked! I had a local simplex 
QSO and was able to hit (with nearly full quieting) a repeater close to 90 
miles away.

Thanks for everyone's input in tracking down this very strange problem!!

Jim / W6JHB
 
On   Friday, Aug 3, 2012, at  Friday, 11:32 AM, N5GE wrote:

> The diversity receive antenna (DRA) must be connected to the AUX antenna on 
> the
> back of the K3.  Unless your DRA has the same gain as the transmit antenna you
> will need to use a Preamp on the DRA.
> 
> I use a DRA that is a 38 inch diameter loop of aluminum tubing that I can 
> rotate
> to peak up the signal of the far off station.  That loop has a 35 dB LNA
> attached.
> 
> Most of us don't have the space to erect a large receive only, so we use 
> smaller
> antennae for the DRA.  If you are one who has the property to make a full size
> DRA, then you can probably get by without a Preamp unless you locate the DRA 
> as
> far away from the TX antenna as possible.  The old ship to shore stations used
> to locate the DRA and RX antennas miles from the transmitter, so since most of
> us can't do that, here are some links to specialized RX antennas.
> 
> http://www.pixelsatradio.com/product/shortwave-magnetic-loop-antenna/
> 
> http://www.dxengineering.com/search/department/antennas/brand/dx-engineering/part-type/hf-receive-antennas
> 
> Don't let this discourage you.  The antenna I use is the one from PixelSat
> Radio, but you can make one just like it yourself if you like to build things.
> 
> Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
> ARRL Lifetime Member
> QCWA Lifetime Member
> 
> On Fri, 03 Aug 2012 10:16:18 -0700, Jim Bennett  wrote:
> 
>> Still have issues with this. Here are the settings in Config that I'm 
>> assuming are relevant:
>> 
>> L-Mix-R = A  b
>> SPKRS = 1
>> SPKR + Ph = no
>> SQ Main = Sub Pot
>> SQ Sub = Sub Pot
>> Sub AF = Nor
>> 
>> With these Config settings, the K3 works fine with the SubRX turned off; 
>> equal Main audio in both headphones. When I turn on the SubRX, it is still 
>> OK; I get Main audio in the left ear and Sub audio in the right ear. I know 
>> I'm getting the Sub audio in the right ear, as I can turn the sub VFO and 
>> hear the frequency change in my right ear. BUT, as soon as I turn on 
>> Diversity, I get almost no signal in the right ear. It isn't silent - it's 
>> just that the signal that is pounding in on the Main is nearly inaudible on 
>> the Sub. If the signal being received on the Main is less than S7, I can't 
>> even hear it on the Sub with Diversity turned on. If it is an S9 or greater 
>> signal, then I can just barely hear it on the Sub when Diversity is turned 
>> on.
>> 
>> Very strange. The SubRX works fine until Diversity mode is enabled.
>> 
>> Any ideas? Does this need to be escalated to Elecraft Tech Support?
>> 
>> 
>> On   Friday, Aug 3, 2012, at  Friday, 6:02 AM, Mike K2MK wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Jim,
>>> 
>>> One of the following might be helpful.
>>> 
>>> If you have CONFIG:SPKRS set to 1 and CONFIG:SPKR+PH set to YES it will turn
>>> off the right channel of your headphones. Avoid the problem by turning
>>> CONFIG:SPKR+PH to no when using diversity.
>>> 
>>> You also need to consider the setting of two other parameters which can be
>>> confusing with respect to SUB RX use. The first is CONFIG:SUB AF. Depending
>>> on whether you have chosen BALANCE or NOR it changes the way the concentric
>>> audio control operates. The second is CONFIG:L-MIX-R which controls which
>>> receiver's audio is in which ear. This control gets overridden when
>>> diversity is used and reverts to MAIN in left ear and SUB in right ear. So
>>> you might have one arrangement set for general SU

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Phones / Diversity Question

[Dale Boresz]

Here is a link to a very small broadband active receiving antenna. The 
entire antenna and associated source follower and emitter follower 
buffer amp will fit inside a 6" x 2" PVC pipe. Very clever and elegant 
design, and it works extremely well. I've built two of them, and this 
weekend will be hanging one of them from a PVC boom attached to the 
tower. In addition to being an exceptional broadband receive-only 
antenna, it also works very well as a noise-sense antenna in conjunction 
with the DX Engineering NCC-1 to eliminate periodic local powerline noise.

< http://www.radiopassioni.it/pdf/pa0rdt-Mini-Whip.PDF >

Other useful information:
< http://carconline.blogspot.com/2009/05/pa0rdt-active-antenna.html >

73, Dale
WA8SRA




On 8/3/2012 2:32 PM, N5GE wrote:
> The diversity receive antenna (DRA) must be connected to the AUX antenna on 
> the
> back of the K3.  Unless your DRA has the same gain as the transmit antenna you
> will need to use a Preamp on the DRA.
>
> I use a DRA that is a 38 inch diameter loop of aluminum tubing that I can 
> rotate
> to peak up the signal of the far off station.  That loop has a 35 dB LNA
> attached.
>
> Most of us don't have the space to erect a large receive only, so we use 
> smaller
> antennae for the DRA.  If you are one who has the property to make a full size
> DRA, then you can probably get by without a Preamp unless you locate the DRA 
> as
> far away from the TX antenna as possible.  The old ship to shore stations used
> to locate the DRA and RX antennas miles from the transmitter, so since most of
> us can't do that, here are some links to specialized RX antennas.
>
> http://www.pixelsatradio.com/product/shortwave-magnetic-loop-antenna/
>
> http://www.dxengineering.com/search/department/antennas/brand/dx-engineering/part-type/hf-receive-antennas
>
> Don't let this discourage you.  The antenna I use is the one from PixelSat
> Radio, but you can make one just like it yourself if you like to build things.
>
> Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
> ARRL Lifetime Member
> QCWA Lifetime Member
>
> On Fri, 03 Aug 2012 10:16:18 -0700, Jim Bennett  wrote:
>
>> Still have issues with this. Here are the settings in Config that I'm 
>> assuming are relevant:
>>
>> L-Mix-R = A  b
>> SPKRS = 1
>> SPKR + Ph = no
>> SQ Main = Sub Pot
>> SQ Sub = Sub Pot
>> Sub AF = Nor
>>
>> With these Config settings, the K3 works fine with the SubRX turned off; 
>> equal Main audio in both headphones. When I turn on the SubRX, it is still 
>> OK; I get Main audio in the left ear and Sub audio in the right ear. I know 
>> I'm getting the Sub audio in the right ear, as I can turn the sub VFO and 
>> hear the frequency change in my right ear. BUT, as soon as I turn on 
>> Diversity, I get almost no signal in the right ear. It isn't silent - it's 
>> just that the signal that is pounding in on the Main is nearly inaudible on 
>> the Sub. If the signal being received on the Main is less than S7, I can't 
>> even hear it on the Sub with Diversity turned on. If it is an S9 or greater 
>> signal, then I can just barely hear it on the Sub when Diversity is turned 
>> on.
>>
>> Very strange. The SubRX works fine until Diversity mode is enabled.
>>
>> Any ideas? Does this need to be escalated to Elecraft Tech Support?
>>
>>
>> On   Friday, Aug 3, 2012, at  Friday, 6:02 AM, Mike K2MK wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jim,
>>>
>>> One of the following might be helpful.
>>>
>>> If you have CONFIG:SPKRS set to 1 and CONFIG:SPKR+PH set to YES it will turn
>>> off the right channel of your headphones. Avoid the problem by turning
>>> CONFIG:SPKR+PH to no when using diversity.
>>>
>>> You also need to consider the setting of two other parameters which can be
>>> confusing with respect to SUB RX use. The first is CONFIG:SUB AF. Depending
>>> on whether you have chosen BALANCE or NOR it changes the way the concentric
>>> audio control operates. The second is CONFIG:L-MIX-R which controls which
>>> receiver's audio is in which ear. This control gets overridden when
>>> diversity is used and reverts to MAIN in left ear and SUB in right ear. So
>>> you might have one arrangement set for general SUB RX use and when you go to
>>> diversity it changes.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Mike K2MK
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jim Bennett wrote
 I just recently added the sub receiver to my K3. I've been using the Sub
 receiver (without diversity turned on) and all was fine. I have the Yamaha
 CM500 headset - one cable plugged into the Phones jack and the other going
 to the Mic jack. I also have an Icom SP-20 external speaker, and it's
 connected to the Spkrs jack.

 Well, I engaged Diversity mode and at first thought it was working
 properly. But, when I turned the AF to zero on the Main receiver, I
 realized that the audio on the Sub was almost nonexistent signals are
 there, but really, really weak. OK, so looking at the Config parameters, I
 noticed in the KRX3 manual that SPKRS should be set to 1. Mine was set to
 2. I

Re: [Elecraft] LiFePO4 Battery Pack Performance

[Fred Townsend]

Generally the answer to your question is yes. However I am reminded of the
old cartoon where the patient is asking the doctor who is treating his
broken arm. 'Doctor when my arm mends will I be able to play the violin?'
'Of course,' the doctor answered.
The patient replied, 'Good! I never could play the violin before.'
73
Fred, AE6QL

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Pierre
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 6:31 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] LiFePO4 Battery Pack Performance

A question: I have an automatic sealed battery charger for my 12V Pb-Ac
battery.
From:
http://www.ctcbattery.com/LiFePO4-Rechargeable-Battery/CTC-12-8V-4-5Ah-57-6W
h-Lithium-Iron-Phosphate-LiFePO4-Rechargeable-Battery

I read "Require no change to a lead acid battery charging system"

Does it means that my old charger will also work with those batteries?

73 de Pierre KX3 S/N 190



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[Elecraft] P3/SVGA BETA 1.18/1.07 Now available for download

[Paul Saffren N6HZ]

*IMPORTANT:  PLEASE MAKE SURE DATA DISPLAY MODE IS DISABLED BEFORE ATTEMPTING
TO UPGRADE THE FIRMWARE* (only if you installed the previous beta)

P3SVGA_0118BETA.zip has been placed in the Elecraft P3 Beta firmware
directory:  ftp://ftp.elecraft.com/P3/firmware/beta/
ftp://ftp.elecraft.com/P3/firmware/beta/ 

Here are the release notes for this build:   /(for instructions on how to
use data display mode, refer to the included file: DataQuickStart.pdf)/

*P3SVGA 01.07 / 08-01-2012*
 
* Fixed a bug where the data windows would not re-size correctly and caused
the video to show vertical bars over entire screen.
* Un-initialized macros now show as  instead of all dashes.
* Typing the vertical bar ‘|’ or embedding it in a text message reverts the
K3 to receive immediately.
* Pressing Ctrl-F while entering a macro definition inserts the current VFO
frequency including RIT, into the macro using the FA format, i.e.
FA000702;
* All of the numeric keypad keys can now be used for macros/text messages.
* Tx timeout now works in when CR is used to send Tx text.  The K3 will
remain in Tx during the timeout and text can be entered and sent
immediately.
* Timeout can now be set from 0 – 90,000 ms (0 – 90 seconds)
* Fixed span adjustment so that it now shows correct 500 Hz steps when span
is below 10 KHz.
* The second LED on the SVGA board now lights when a keyboard is attached
and is off when keyboard is removed.

  

*MCU 01.18/ 8-1-2012*

* The SVGA data mode on/off state is now stored in EEPROM.
* Fixed a bug where the VFO B cursor would not change color when SPLIT was
selected on the K3 while the SVGA data mode was enabled.


*P3SVGA 01.05 / 7-20-2012*

* Data display mode added for external monitor.
* USB keyboard support added.
* Video resolutions 1024x768, 1280x1024 and 1920x1080 now use a PLL
generated clock making them more compatible with a variety of monitors.


*MCU 01.17 / 7-20-2012*

* Supports SVGA data mode, including new SVGA menu entries:  "SVGA data"
on/off, "SVGA fntD" (data display font), "SVGA WinR" (receive window size),
and "SVGA WinT" (transmit window size).


 

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Lead Time

[Don Wilhelm]

Eric,

That is great news.  Thanks to all the Elecraft staff for making that 
happen.  I know a lot of effort has gone into the KX3 launch and has 
been the focus of the Elecraft "response window". Congratulations to you 
and your staff for bring this new product on-line and reducing the order 
backlog.  The only question that remains is "how long until it is 
shipping off the shelf"

73,
Don W3FPR
On 8/3/2012 2:25 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
> Now at 60 days and dropping :-)
>
> For the latest info see:
> http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_shipping_status.htm
>
> 73,
>
> Eric
> ---
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>
> On 8/3/2012 11:15 AM, Jeff Drew wrote:
>> Assembled KX3  wait time is now 4 months is that correct?
>> Jeff, N4JDU
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
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[Elecraft] K3 in CW action from CY9M

[wb6rse1]

K3 in CW action from CY9M. Notice RX is with VFO A while VFO B is set to fixed 
TX freq. FL1 selected, likely their narrowest filter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeBw3RAgZwU&feature=youtu.be

73 - Steve WB6RSE
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT-500

[Bill K9YEQ]

I learned many years ago it was always better to exceed customer
expectations...  there may be something to be learned here.  I am not the
boss, just some thoughts.  Great to create expectations, but do be careful.
The issue in the design and production arena is not knowing what the vendors
will do for you.  That is the mystery, so I certainly have empathy with
Elecraft's team.  

73,
Bill
K9YEQ


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of FredJensen
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 10:42 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT-500

While working with a Marine BG and his staff on a battlefield maintenance
system, the General continued to press for schedule compression.  He asked
for a "ball park estimate," and my somewhat older and more experienced
colleague said, "General ... Good -- Fast -- Cheap.  Pick two."  My KAT500
will arrive when it arrives.  In the end, everything is what it is, and in
the meantime, I continue to enjoy my K-Line.  Well ... I'll continue as soon
as we get home, been with family in Sparks NV for a week.

73

Fred K6DGW/7

On 8/3/2012 12:14 AM, Hunsdon Cary III wrote:
> Originally Elecraft estimated an August 15 shipping date for the KAT-500
but, realistically, did you really believe it?
> Of course not, delays are bound to come along and if it ships during the
Aug 31-Sept 7 window now posted, I'll be a happy hambut realistically,
> it might be later but it'll be worth it.   At Dayton, I ordered the 2nd
KAT-500 and am looking forward to receiving it!
> 73,
> Cary, K4TM
> LYNCHBURG VA
>
> H. Cary III
> h3c...@gmail.com
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Are we there yet?

[riese-k3djc]

Which is worse the ones like " which mike should I use for my K3 "

HAR

Bob K3DJC

or furthering this threadHAR !!!


On Fri, 3 Aug 2012 14:24:47 -0700 "Ron D'Eau Claire" 
writes:
> I had the same situation with my daughter driving between San 
> Francisco and
> Los Angeles along US 101 for a number of years in the 1960's, except 
> that my
> daughter slept like a stone in the car until she was about six. 
> 
> I handled it the same way Elecraft has done. In my case, I taught 
> her to
> read a map. That kept her engrossed for many trips, following our 
> progress
> along the 400 mile route. As she grew old enough she exercised her
> arithmetic skills to calculate the mileage and travel time. 
> 
> The corollary for Elecraft are the posts saying "Whoo-hoo I'm now 
> XXX on the
> list!"
> 
> 73, Ron AC7AC
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Vic K2VCO
> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 1:12 PM
> To: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: [Elecraft] Are we there yet?
> 
> Many years ago, my daughter was 4 (she is now 44). We used to drive 
> between
> San Francisco and Fresno a lot, and she would sit in the back seat 
> and ask
> "are we there yet?" 
> constantly. It drove us bloody nuts.
> 
> Just sayin'.
> 
> --
> Vic, K2VCO
> Fresno CA
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 in CW action from CY9M

[Gary Hinson]

Notice also they are running preamp and attenuator!

73
Gary  ZL2iFB

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> Sent: Saturday, 4 August 2012 10:34 a.m.
> To: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 in CW action from CY9M
> 
> K3 in CW action from CY9M. Notice RX is with VFO A while VFO B is set to
> fixed TX freq. FL1 selected, likely their narrowest filter.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeBw3RAgZwU&feature=youtu.be
> 
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[Elecraft] KPA -500

[DGB]

Just to add to the statistics ... #  0971 has just been put together and 
working great, in 5 hrs assy time
!

73 Dwight NS9i=I
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Re: [Elecraft] P3/SVGA BETA 1.18/1.07 Now available for download

[W5RDW]

Many thanks, Paul!



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Re: [Elecraft] Unhappy With Your KX3?

[Harry White]

Hi Kevin,

Actually, I think this list is very appropriate for your question. I think
far too many people are looking at the KX3 through rose colored glasses, to
use a tired old phrase. I received KX3 kit, serial number 557, on June 29th,
by coincidence my seventieth birthday. The parts list and the actual
inventory did not match but the kit went together anyway. There seemed to be
many hardware errors that were miraculously made up by a package of "extra"
hardware. And there was quite a bit of left over hardware. Odd

I found the assembling of the two halves to be quite vexing. The speaker and
battery wires caused major problems as they kept getting into the way. It
seems they will always be an issue. In addition, the legs, dangling as they
do, hold the case fasteners at an odd angle and exacerbate an already vexing
problem. Clearly the legs could use a better mechanical design, independent
of the case fasteners. Once assembled the KX3 powered up with no issues but
I was stunned by the poor audio. The distortion was unacceptable at any
level above a low, unlistenable volume. I thought it might be the speaker so
I attached external, powered speakers and got the same result. I have read
on this list that one should just use earbuds or headphones. As one who uses
two hearing aids, earbuds are unacceptable and I don't think I should be
forced to use headphones in a very quiet radio room. The speaker has to
work! And now I find I need to install the grille cloth because of bad
directions. Someone also suggested grinding or filing away portions of the
case around the speaker. I'm not about to do something so drastic on a piece
of electronic gear!

The result of all that was I have set the radio aside and consider it
useless in its present form. I have read of firmware revisions but they seem
unacceptable at this point. Revision 1.10 was noted just today as causing a
fatal flaw in certain KX3's and the advice was to wait for revision 1.12
which will not be out for a while. Duh. In reading the various emails it
seems that for every step Elecraft takes ahead in firmware, they take almost
a step back in issues the new revision creates. In addition, there are still
things not implemented. I wonder how the editors of QST would feel if they
knew Elecraft advertisements in their magazine were claiming features that
were not available yet? I can't recall Yaesu, Kenwood, or Icom ever doing
that.

Here in Maine the KX3 would be classified as a blivet, two pounds of
you-know-what in a one pound bag. If it had been made just a quarter or half
inch longer, taller, or deeper it would be a far better radio. Perhaps
Elecraft could offer a back case that is one quarter of an inch deeper as a
retrofit. I'd buy one.

I am not trying to say that the KX3 is not a good radio, it's just not ready
for "Prime Time". It will be awesome when it is fully implemented but when
will that be? If I have any advice for Elecraft it would be to sit down and
list all the issues, with all their products, and set firm dates for
resolving them, and then stick to that schedule. Elecraft gives the
impression of having too many balls in the air, all the time, and thus are
being forced to nibble at the issues.

To answer your last question, there is no XYZ radio that I wish I had
bought. Nothing has the capabilities/specifications of the KX3 at the
present time. It's the KX3 or a giant step back to the FT-817ND.

So there you have it Kevin. I own a $1400 paperweight that may someday be
transformed into a great radio. My advice to you is to wait a bit longer to
see how the radio evolves.

73,
Harry White
K1RSA

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kevin Kleinfelter
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 1:11 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Unhappy With Your KX3?

I'm interested in buying the KX3, but it is a lot of money for me; I want to
be sure not to make an expensive mistake.  So I started searching the net
for someone who is unhappy with his/her KX3.  The closest I got was someone
who said he hated his KX3 and was going to send it back -- until Elecraft
contacted him, helped him make a config change, and now he loves it.

So... If you are unhappy with your KX3, please respond with why.  (I'm not
looking for things that could be tweaked to make it better. I'm looking for
"Here's why I really wish I had NOT bought my KX3" or "Here's why I really
wish I had bought xyz instead.")

If you don't want to post it to the list, please send it to me at
do-not-like-kx3 [at] kleinfelter [dot] com.
TIA
Kevin
KK4KIK
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Re: [Elecraft] Unhappy With Your KX3?

[Andrew Moore]

Hi Harry & all --

I, too, represent Maine, and must point out that when you say "Here in
Maine the KX3 would be classified as a blivet" you aren't speaking for all
Mainers.

I agree that Kevin's question (what don't you like about the KX3) is
entirely appropriate. He's asking a simple question from another angle and
doesn't deserve to be jumped on by anyone making the assumption that he's
biased against the radio.

I bought a new truck in '05 that needed two fixes within probably 1,000
miles. Yes it was frustrating, but that's why they offer a warranty, and it
was honored. New products, especially those pushing the state of the art,
probably aren't perfect. A wise high school teacher once told me everything
in life is a tradeoff. He even repeated it, for emphasis. Can't count the
number of times since then that I realized he was right.

In the end, best vehicle I ever had, hands down.

I'm a relative newcomer to Maine (2006), but from what I gather, we take
the good with the bad, deal with the nor'easters and rough winters, and tap
our Yankee ingenuity when it comes to making stop-gap fixes before official
ones are available, or even in their absence. We make things work. In my
case, it simply involved about six inches of blue painter's tape. If I
cared about how it looked, I might have used black vinyl tape instead, but
I'm a Mainer :)

I'd urge people to not put the blame on the speaker due to (in some cases)
the case resonating/vibrating - the speaker, to me, is clearly plenty
powerful for the radio room. It's small but it's no slouch. The problem is
more likely with the spacing on the halves of the enclosure. I too think
filing/grinding is extreme and I wouldn't want to go there.

I'll take excellence over perfection, because excellence is attainable. In
my personal opinion (and everyone's got one), Wayne and Eric have done that
with the KX3 and their other products.

Disclaimer: My KX3 was factory assembled, not a kit. That said, the only
gripes I've had were that the encoder was mechanically scratchy and the
case resonated at high volumes. While ideally these issues wouldn't exist
from the factory, I solved both with relatively little effort (thanks to
the forum), and if I had to pick one radio from my past 24 years of hamming
to live with, the KX3 would be it, no question. Your mileage may vary,
everyone's got an opinion, etc...

I love this radio and it's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. Thanks,
Elecraft, for delivering excellence.

73,
--Andrew, NV1B
..


On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Harry White  wrote:

> Hi Kevin,
>
> Actually, I think this list is very appropriate for your question. I think
> far too many people are looking at the KX3 through rose colored glasses, to
> use a tired old phrase. I received KX3 kit, serial number 557, on June
> 29th,
> by coincidence my seventieth birthday. The parts list and the actual
> inventory did not match but the kit went together anyway. There seemed to
> be
> many hardware errors that were miraculously made up by a package of "extra"
> hardware. And there was quite a bit of left over hardware. Odd
>
> I found the assembling of the two halves to be quite vexing. The speaker
> and
> battery wires caused major problems as they kept getting into the way. It
> seems they will always be an issue. In addition, the legs, dangling as they
> do, hold the case fasteners at an odd angle and exacerbate an already
> vexing
> problem. Clearly the legs could use a better mechanical design, independent
> of the case fasteners. Once assembled the KX3 powered up with no issues but
> I was stunned by the poor audio. The distortion was unacceptable at any
> level above a low, unlistenable volume. I thought it might be the speaker
> so
> I attached external, powered speakers and got the same result. I have read
> on this list that one should just use earbuds or headphones. As one who
> uses
> two hearing aids, earbuds are unacceptable and I don't think I should be
> forced to use headphones in a very quiet radio room. The speaker has to
> work! And now I find I need to install the grille cloth because of bad
> directions. Someone also suggested grinding or filing away portions of the
> case around the speaker. I'm not about to do something so drastic on a
> piece
> of electronic gear!
>
> The result of all that was I have set the radio aside and consider it
> useless in its present form. I have read of firmware revisions but they
> seem
> unacceptable at this point. Revision 1.10 was noted just today as causing a
> fatal flaw in certain KX3's and the advice was to wait for revision 1.12
> which will not be out for a while. Duh. In reading the various emails
> it
> seems that for every step Elecraft takes ahead in firmware, they take
> almost
> a step back in issues the new revision creates. In addition, there are
> still
> things not implemented. I wonder how the editors of QST would feel if they
> knew Elecraft advertisements in their magazine were claiming features 

Re: [Elecraft] Unhappy With Your KX3?

[Wayne Burdick]

Harry White wrote:

> I think far too many people are looking at the KX3 through rose  
> colored glasses

Harry,

I'm sorry your experience with the KX3 has been less than rosy.

I agree that Elecraft customers can be an enthusiastic bunch, but  
praise for the KX3 is not limited to our reflector -- KX3 users' posts  
in blogs, on eHam, etc. have been highly positive. We're very pleased  
with the response. Of course we always learn from from critique than  
praise, so thank you for not pulling any punches.

Note that you could return the rig to have any and all issues  
corrected immediately, under warranty. Meanwhile, I'd like to respond  
to a few of your comments.

Fortunately, the kit and documentation issues you mentioned have all  
either been corrected or are in the works. We revise the printed  
documents very often, and anything that is an immediate issue for  
builders is posted as an alert.

KX3 audio from the headphone jack with powered speakers should  
absolutely not be distorted. (On the contrary, we get raves daily from  
users about how clean it is.) You may have AGC THR set too high in  
combination with high AF and RF gain. Try AGC THR = 4 or 5, and also  
make sure AGC is turned on (AGC MD = ON). With external powered  
speakers or 'phones you should get tons of outstanding audio.

The internal speaker is intended as a backup, not as the primary  
transducer. It is of necessity quite small, and should be used at  
lower volume levels. I have already apologized for the issue with the  
speaker grille (we removed it, then added back in when we determined  
that it was not the main cause of vibration some users had  
experienced). If you have an issue with case vibration even at very  
low audio levels, please contact support.

Regarding the legs: They are admittedly unusual, but were heavily  
optimized for the application. They are both rugged and lightweight,  
something that isn't always easy to achieve. Once you've used them a  
few times, deploying them becomes second nature.

Again, if you still have unsolved issues, please take them up with  
support (or with me) so we can get the benefit of your feedback.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] Unhappy With Your KX3?

[stan levandowski]

OK.  Here I go.  Am I unhappy with my KX3?  You betcha!!  Totally 
disgusted!

To begin with, it has ruined QRP ham radio.  QRP used to be a very small 
and exclusive niche.  Elecraft - especially with the KX3 - has brought 
QRP into the mainstream. Now QRP ops can do everything the nominal "100 
watt op" can do and their numbers are increasing!   It used to be a very 
skillful challenge to break a pileup on rare DX with 5 watts. Cruising 
up and down the band to locate the station being worked on split in 
order to improve the chances of my peanut whistle signal being heard 
against the "100 watt norm" community was an expert skill.  Well, the 
dual watch function of the KX3 makes it a no brainer now!  And how about 
that automatic zerobeat button?  There's another skill gone down the 
drain!  Now let's talk about filtering capability. In the old days, the 
best filter was between the operator's ears.  The KX3 has roofing 
filters that narrow down all the crap presented to the first stage and 
the subsequent DSP processing can make just about any signal workable. 
Hey, it's all electronics -- where's the operator skill  Now let's 
turn to the transmitter.  It has no personality at all.  It's perfect. 
How the heck can all my usual QSO buddies identify me without some 
chirp, a little click, or some drift?  Why heck, just last night I 
worked a K3 (#2867) in New Zealand from New York - ZL2AGY.  You see, 
that's the whole problem in a nutshell.  Five watts in New York with 44 
feet of wire in the attic *should not* be able to enjoy a ragchew with 
New Zealand.  It just ain't right!

My KX3 is for sale - factory built and aligned.  Fully optioned.  Asking 
$4800.  (I'll use the proceeds to buy three more - one dedicated to the 
car; one for portable/trail; the third one for the shack.  I'm good in 
"qr zed dot com".   Send the check there.

73, Stan WB2LQF


On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Harry White wrote:

  I own a $1400 paperweight that may someday be
> transformed into a great radio. My advice to you is to wait a bit 
> longer to
> see how the radio evolves.

AND KEVIN WROTE:

> So... If you are unhappy with your KX3, please respond with why.
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Re: [Elecraft] Unhappy With Your KX3?

[Larry Makoski]

On 8/3/2012 8:59 PM, Harry White wrote:
> Here in Maine the KX3 would be classified as a blivet, two pounds of
> you-know-what in a one pound bag.
Wow!

I know that Elecraft fans can be over enthusiastic, at times.  But that 
comment is a bit over the top, IMHO.

The radio may have some developmental faults, but "two pounds of 
you-know-what"?

Hardly.

Larry W2LJ

Just sayin'


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QRP - When you care to send the very least!

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Re: [Elecraft] Unhappy With Your KX3?

[Tom Dooley]

I think that Harry has some good points.  I am not an Elecraft kool-aid 
drinker, but I do have more than a few products from Elecraft.  Not all of 
them, as not all products meet my needs.  I do have the ones I do because I 
like most of the products and most of the products.  Are the products of 
Elecraft perfect?  No, but damn close and beyond the other choices out there.  
Is the Elecraft option the cheapest option out there?  No!  Is the Elecraft 
option the best value?  I think so for the products I own.  Duh, that's a 
given, as I have spent my money in my best interest.

Is the KX3 fully mature?  No, but it is getting there.  The one thing I can say 
confidently is that the KX3 will  become more and more mature.  It is one of 
the reasons to spend money with Elecraft as you have a product that can be 
updated.  My opinion is that Eric and Wayne will make the KX3 the most it can 
be.  That will be an incredible radio unmatched by anyone or any company.

I am not saying that Harry is wrong, but I am saying that if you understand the 
Elecraft model, you cannot do better, in my humble opinion.  OK, I like 
kool-aid but it is not grape.  Are my glasses rose colored?  No, but I do like 
Rose's carrying cases and covers!  Enjoy the ride.  I have not been 
disappointed.

Regards and respectively submitted

73
Tom
K4TJD




Sent from my iPad

On Aug 3, 2012, at 8:59 PM, "Harry White"  wrote:

> Hi Kevin,
> 
> Actually, I think this list is very appropriate for your question. I think
> far too many people are looking at the KX3 through rose colored glasses, to
> use a tired old phrase. I received KX3 kit, serial number 557, on June 29th,
> by coincidence my seventieth birthday. The parts list and the actual
> inventory did not match but the kit went together anyway. There seemed to be
> many hardware errors that were miraculously made up by a package of "extra"
> hardware. And there was quite a bit of left over hardware. Odd
> 
> I found the assembling of the two halves to be quite vexing. The speaker and
> battery wires caused major problems as they kept getting into the way. It
> seems they will always be an issue. In addition, the legs, dangling as they
> do, hold the case fasteners at an odd angle and exacerbate an already vexing
> problem. Clearly the legs could use a better mechanical design, independent
> of the case fasteners. Once assembled the KX3 powered up with no issues but
> I was stunned by the poor audio. The distortion was unacceptable at any
> level above a low, unlistenable volume. I thought it might be the speaker so
> I attached external, powered speakers and got the same result. I have read
> on this list that one should just use earbuds or headphones. As one who uses
> two hearing aids, earbuds are unacceptable and I don't think I should be
> forced to use headphones in a very quiet radio room. The speaker has to
> work! And now I find I need to install the grille cloth because of bad
> directions. Someone also suggested grinding or filing away portions of the
> case around the speaker. I'm not about to do something so drastic on a piece
> of electronic gear!
> 
> The result of all that was I have set the radio aside and consider it
> useless in its present form. I have read of firmware revisions but they seem
> unacceptable at this point. Revision 1.10 was noted just today as causing a
> fatal flaw in certain KX3's and the advice was to wait for revision 1.12
> which will not be out for a while. Duh. In reading the various emails it
> seems that for every step Elecraft takes ahead in firmware, they take almost
> a step back in issues the new revision creates. In addition, there are still
> things not implemented. I wonder how the editors of QST would feel if they
> knew Elecraft advertisements in their magazine were claiming features that
> were not available yet? I can't recall Yaesu, Kenwood, or Icom ever doing
> that.
> 
> Here in Maine the KX3 would be classified as a blivet, two pounds of
> you-know-what in a one pound bag. If it had been made just a quarter or half
> inch longer, taller, or deeper it would be a far better radio. Perhaps
> Elecraft could offer a back case that is one quarter of an inch deeper as a
> retrofit. I'd buy one.
> 
> I am not trying to say that the KX3 is not a good radio, it's just not ready
> for "Prime Time". It will be awesome when it is fully implemented but when
> will that be? If I have any advice for Elecraft it would be to sit down and
> list all the issues, with all their products, and set firm dates for
> resolving them, and then stick to that schedule. Elecraft gives the
> impression of having too many balls in the air, all the time, and thus are
> being forced to nibble at the issues.
> 
> To answer your last question, there is no XYZ radio that I wish I had
> bought. Nothing has the capabilities/specifications of the KX3 at the
> present time. It's the KX3 or a giant step back to the FT-817ND.
> 
> So there you have it Kevin. I own a 

Re: [Elecraft] Unhappy With Your KX3?

[Kevin Kleinfelter]

Thanks for your thoughts Rick.

I'm looking to discover regrets before I drop $1300-$1500 on a recreational
purchase (i.e. a new toy).  I'm not looking to demonstrate that some radio
is better or worse than the KX3.  (I'd have to define a specific goal, in
order for better/worse to be meaningful.)

99.99% of the time, when I buy something non-trivial, I have *some*
regrets.  No matter what radio I buy, I expect to have some regrets.  I
expect to find some feature of another radio that I wish my radio has.
 What I'm looking to do is to flush out possible regrets before I buy.

Sometimes, I'm motivated by seeking 'satisfiers'; sometimes, I'm motivated
by avoiding disappointments.  For big expenses, it's those big
disappointments that I fear.

I do not expect that any *real* radio will have zero haters.  Some new
radio that's about to come out may have zero -- until it comes out.  I
don't plan to not-buy a radio (or any other product) because one (or two or
twenty) people hate it. I do want to understand the things they
passionately dislike about it.

The point that almost all of the people who stay on this list will be
Elecraft fans is well taken, and I will make an effort to search for KX3 on
lists focused on other manufacturers products.

I agree that one of the things Elecraft has going for it is its real (not
just marketing speak) commitment to customer satisfaction.  Wayne
demonstrated that again in this very thread!

Whatever I buy will be my first radio and it will have to be my last, until
my 8 year-old completes college.  I can find plenty of positives about the
KX3, and, if I buy one, they will be pleasing.  I'll have to live with any
regrets for a long time, so I want to understand them before I commit.

Thanks again for your thoughts, and thanks to the others who have shared
theirs!
Kevin
KK4KIK

On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 8:16 PM,  wrote:

>
> --
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 19:30:34 +
> From: Rick Stealey 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Unhappy With Your KX3?
> To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
> Message-ID: 
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>
>
> Since I saw the original post I've been thinking
> IF (a big IF) you managed to locate ONE OWNER who fit your criteria and he
> responded to you,
> what are you going to do, trust his judgement or opinion of the other ONE
> or TWO THOUSAND
> on the other side of the fence? !!
>
> The KX3 was designed by Wayne Burdick.  He is on here every day, reading,
> listening
> to his customers and responding, making them happy.  If you don't get a
> KX3 what are
> you going to get, an FT-817?  Who designed your 817?  How do you contact
> HIM if
> you have a question or a concern?Where do the factory design teams for
> the FT5000 or
> the TS990 hang out?  Could you pass along the reflector name or the web
> site?
>
> Rick  K2XT
>
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[Elecraft] [KX3] NR setting

[Pierre]

.. On page 13 of the KX3 manual, we can read this:

Holding NR turns on noise reduction and displays its setting, which can be
adjusted using the knob above the switch. Tap any switch to exit the setting
display.

I have installed the NR but cannot adjust its setting using the control knob
above the switch. Am I missing something?

Thanks de VE2PID KX3 # 190



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Re: [Elecraft] Unhappy With Your KX3?

[Phillip Shepard]

I have a recent bit of evidence.  I have kit built s/n 268.  I love this
radio.  Today, it did what I needed from a top of the line trail radio.  I
was activating a SOTA summit in the foothills of the Cascades here in
Oregon.  This summit was covered with radio installations of various kinds.
RF noise was horrible in the 20M CW band segment.  I was interested in
summit to summit (S2S) contacts since a lot of SOTA folks were active today.
This means both sides are QRP with low wire antennas.  In other words, weak
signals are the norm.  The noise (QRN) was a problem; but with the KX3
connected to either of the antennas I was using (a 20M EFHW wire and an
88'inverted V doublet fed with twin lead, up about 30'), I was able to crank
the bandwidth down to 500 Hz or narrower and significantly reduce the noise
level, allowing the SOTA stations to come through.  The internal antenna
tuner was great at getting a match too.  The radio had enough tools to allow
me to have a succesful activation with several S2S QSOs in the mix.  A lot
of radios would have not been so forgiving.

Is the radio perfect?  I don't know, but it gets the job done well.  Before
the KX3, my trail radio was a K2 - not too shabby itself, but the KX3 seems
better.  The legs always work correctly for me as I sit on the ground and
work SOTA stations.  I don't usually use the speaker, but it isn't bad when
I do.  This radio is smarter than me, I think.  Thanks to Elecraft for such
a leap forward.

73,
Phil, NS7P
K2, K3 and KX3 ownwer, so I guess I drank the cool aid!

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 6:53 PM
To: Harry White
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; 'Kevin Kleinfelter'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Unhappy With Your KX3?


Harry White wrote:

> I think far too many people are looking at the KX3 through rose
> colored glasses

Harry,

I'm sorry your experience with the KX3 has been less than rosy.

I agree that Elecraft customers can be an enthusiastic bunch, but
praise for the KX3 is not limited to our reflector -- KX3 users' posts
in blogs, on eHam, etc. have been highly positive. We're very pleased
with the response. Of course we always learn from from critique than
praise, so thank you for not pulling any punches.

Note that you could return the rig to have any and all issues
corrected immediately, under warranty. Meanwhile, I'd like to respond
to a few of your comments.

Fortunately, the kit and documentation issues you mentioned have all
either been corrected or are in the works. We revise the printed
documents very often, and anything that is an immediate issue for
builders is posted as an alert.

KX3 audio from the headphone jack with powered speakers should
absolutely not be distorted. (On the contrary, we get raves daily from
users about how clean it is.) You may have AGC THR set too high in
combination with high AF and RF gain. Try AGC THR = 4 or 5, and also
make sure AGC is turned on (AGC MD = ON). With external powered
speakers or 'phones you should get tons of outstanding audio.

The internal speaker is intended as a backup, not as the primary
transducer. It is of necessity quite small, and should be used at
lower volume levels. I have already apologized for the issue with the
speaker grille (we removed it, then added back in when we determined
that it was not the main cause of vibration some users had
experienced). If you have an issue with case vibration even at very
low audio levels, please contact support.

Regarding the legs: They are admittedly unusual, but were heavily
optimized for the application. They are both rugged and lightweight,
something that isn't always easy to achieve. Once you've used them a
few times, deploying them becomes second nature.

Again, if you still have unsolved issues, please take them up with
support (or with me) so we can get the benefit of your feedback.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] Unhappy With Your KX3?

[stan levandowski]

Hey Kevin, all kidding and smart-alecky comments aside - the KX3 is the 
rig that *will* last you until that eight year old has his college 
degree!  True, nothing is "perfect" but some products (and companies!) 
approach that level and Elecraft and its KX3 are not likely to 
disappoint you between now and when your kid graduates.  Consider that 
every time you download a KX3 software update you essentially have a 
'new radio."  Elecraft products sell themselves based upon technical 
innovation,  performance, and customer service.  Yes, this "family" that 
inhabits this Reflector may, at times, seem overly cohesive and fanatic. 
But stop and think...what made them so darn happy?

73 and good luck in your search for the 'right' rig for you,

Stan WB2LQF


On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 10:34 PM, Kevin Kleinfelter wrote:

> Thanks for your thoughts Rick.
>
> I'm looking to discover regrets before I drop $1300-$1500 on a 
> recreational
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Re: [Elecraft] Unhappy With Your KX3?

[Jim Brown]

On 8/3/2012 5:59 PM, Harry White wrote:
> I have read
> on this list that one should just use earbuds or headphones. As one who uses
> two hearing aids, earbuds are unacceptable and I don't think I should be
> forced to use headphones in a very quiet radio room.

I think you're being very unfair on this issue, Harry, although I think 
it's great that you pointed out this limitation in response to the 
question. This radio is designed for backpacking, and for use with 
earphones.  It is designed to maximize battery life.  It is NOT 
primarily a desktop radio intended to be used with its internal speaker, 
or even with a passive outboard speaker. That is a consequence of the 
design to maximize battery life .It can certainly be used with one or 
two powered loudspeakers if that's how you want to use it.

I'm surprised that you don't like headphones. My 70 year old ears, which 
also have some hearing loss, love headphones.  Indeed, I've ALWAYS 
primarily used headphones in my ham shack, even at age 15!

It's also designed to be used with an outboard power amp and outboard 
100W antenna tuner, neither of which are ready for sale. With those 
accessories, and with an amplified speaker, it can be used in a car.

I don't have my own KX3 yet, but I've been playing with a loaner from a 
neighbor.  Last weekend we had it out on a mountaintop working into 15 
ft vertical whip plus a wire thrown into the bushes. The IOTA contest 
was on, so we responded to several calls on 15M, and it took only about 
ten minutes to work K4, PY, and JA.  This week I've had it hooked to my 
big antenna farm, and the receiver has been just great.

I'm not happy with the back-packer's paddle for use at home, and I'd 
like to be able to plug my usual paddle into it when I'm using it on a 
desk to use the internal keyer.  The backpacker's paddle works very well 
for backpacking though.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Unhappy With Your KX3?

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

One of the things that has held true for Elecraft equipment is that you can
sell it for a large fraction of your original cost if you do not like it. So
your exposure is far less than $1,300 in the event you discover it is not
something you want to keep.

Ron AC7AC

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kevin Kleinfelter
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 7:35 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Unhappy With Your KX3?

Thanks for your thoughts Rick.

I'm looking to discover regrets before I drop $1300-$1500 on a recreational
purchase (i.e. a new toy).  I'm not looking to demonstrate that some radio
is better or worse than the KX3.  (I'd have to define a specific goal, in
order for better/worse to be meaningful.)

99.99% of the time, when I buy something non-trivial, I have *some* regrets.
No matter what radio I buy, I expect to have some regrets.  I expect to find
some feature of another radio that I wish my radio has.
 What I'm looking to do is to flush out possible regrets before I buy.

Sometimes, I'm motivated by seeking 'satisfiers'; sometimes, I'm motivated
by avoiding disappointments.  For big expenses, it's those big
disappointments that I fear.

I do not expect that any *real* radio will have zero haters.  Some new radio
that's about to come out may have zero -- until it comes out.  I don't plan
to not-buy a radio (or any other product) because one (or two or
twenty) people hate it. I do want to understand the things they passionately
dislike about it.

The point that almost all of the people who stay on this list will be
Elecraft fans is well taken, and I will make an effort to search for KX3 on
lists focused on other manufacturers products.

I agree that one of the things Elecraft has going for it is its real (not
just marketing speak) commitment to customer satisfaction.  Wayne
demonstrated that again in this very thread!

Whatever I buy will be my first radio and it will have to be my last, until
my 8 year-old completes college.  I can find plenty of positives about the
KX3, and, if I buy one, they will be pleasing.  I'll have to live with any
regrets for a long time, so I want to understand them before I commit.

Thanks again for your thoughts, and thanks to the others who have shared
theirs!
Kevin
KK4KIK

On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 8:16 PM,  wrote:

>
> --
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 19:30:34 +
> From: Rick Stealey 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Unhappy With Your KX3?
> To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
> Since I saw the original post I've been thinking
> IF (a big IF) you managed to locate ONE OWNER who fit your criteria 
> and he responded to you, what are you going to do, trust his judgement 
> or opinion of the other ONE or TWO THOUSAND on the other side of the 
> fence? !!
>
> The KX3 was designed by Wayne Burdick.  He is on here every day, 
> reading, listening to his customers and responding, making them happy.  
> If you don't get a
> KX3 what are
> you going to get, an FT-817?  Who designed your 817?  How do you 
> contact HIM if
> you have a question or a concern?Where do the factory design teams for
> the FT5000 or
> the TS990 hang out?  Could you pass along the reflector name or the 
> web site?
>
> Rick  K2XT
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Unhappy With Your KX3?

[Andrew Moore]

Toss a wire into a tree, hook up a straight key and enjoy the unique
character and the opportunities that the KX3 offers. If it's mainstream,
then more people get to enjoy it.

The Internet used to be exclusive.

--Andrew, NV1B
..


On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 10:01 PM, stan levandowski wrote:

> OK.  Here I go.  Am I unhappy with my KX3?  You betcha!!  Totally
> disgusted!
>
> To begin with, it has ruined QRP ham radio.  QRP used to be a very small
> and exclusive niche.  Elecraft - especially with the KX3 - has brought
> QRP into the mainstream.
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Unhappy With Your KX3?

[Tony Estep]

On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Kevin Kleinfelter wrote:

> ...Whatever I buy will be my first radio and it will have to be my last...

=
Then go straight to the top, Kevin, and get a K3. It is the best ham
transceiver available and will be for some time, so you can be sure of
having no regrets. Moreover, you can get the basic 10w version with one
receiver and then add goodies as you go, a feature that is not available
with alternatives. The KX3 is a terrific radio and I love mine; I have
experienced none of the objections mentioned in a previous post, and I'd
note that most of them are either esthetic preferences or can be cured by
proper adjustment, construction, and/or operation. However, any radio
designed for portability and low current drain has compromises. The K3 is
an all-out performance radio -- and it's still highly portable and features
pretty low current drain. Get a K3, and don't worry, be happy.

Tony KT0NY


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[Elecraft] EZ Software Link

[Paul]

Hi
I have been searching through previous posts looking for EZ Software 
links. The one common one I have seen is
http://home.roadrunner.com/~n2bc/SW.htm
Which seems to be broken.
Thanks
Paul VK3ERA
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Re: [Elecraft] Unhappy With Your KX3?

[FredJensen]

On 8/4/2012 2:34 AM, Kevin Kleinfelter wrote:
> Thanks for your thoughts Rick.
>
> I'm looking to discover regrets before I drop $1300-$1500 on a recreational
> purchase (i.e. a new toy).  I'm not looking to demonstrate that some radio
> is better or worse than the KX3.  (I'd have to define a specific goal, in
> order for better/worse to be meaningful.)
Fair question Kevin.  My experience with reviews/experience reports is 
that the only ones that count are from people I know, and I know how 
they use the item in question.  eHam is full of reviews, virtually all 
from people I don't know.  While looking for an all-band vertical, I 
started reading them for various candidates ... they ranged from "Put it 
together in 3.7 minutes and made DXCC by the end of the day," to 
"Absolutely the worst antenna I've ever had, worse than my dummy load."  
There was no way I could make sense of it.  I did finally get a GAP 
Titan, contrary to a number of reviews I had no trouble understanding 
the assembly instructions, son-in-law and two grandsons mounted it for 
me on the roof, and I've managed 6 new DXCC on it in 3 months.  By 
comparison, I've managed twice that number on the tribander.  The 
vertical is noticeably noisier [one of the many complaints on eHam], but 
of course it *is* a vertical ... duh!.

I don't have a KX3, but I do have a K3.  If you want to know the biggest 
characteristic of my K3 that I didn't like, it would be its weight ... 
or, more accurately, the lack of it.  It moves when I do TAP and HOLD on 
the switches, which isn't a big deal, moving it back into place is easy, 
it just annoys me.  I fixed it with some non-slip cloth-like stuff.  
Took 3 tries to find the right material.

If I were you, I'd locate friends you know who have a KX3 and talk to 
them ... as in a two-way conversation.  Their likes/dislikes may or may 
not affect your needs/wants, but at least you can talk it out with 
them.  Again, after all the bruhaha dies down on the list, it was a fair 
question.

73,

Fred K6DGW/7
TDY Sparks NV taking care of granddaughter


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Re: [Elecraft] Unhappy With Your KX3?

[KU7Y]

Hi Kevin,

Let me just add a little bit.

I have #62, factory built.  I have not seen any real issues with this rig. 
And it seems like every time there is a new software version, I get a new 
rig!

Sure, there are some very minor issues.  None were show stoppers for me and 
many, if not most, have already been addressed.

And there is still much more in the works!  So I'll be getting a new rig 
several more times.

This is my first Elecraft rig and I have no regrets at all.  It is much 
better than my FT100 and when I get back to AZ and get the FT-1000MP fixed, 
I'm sure it will be at least that good as that rig.  I have a feeling that 
the RX is better but until a side by side comparison, it's only a guess.

Would the K3 be a better radio for shack use?  Sure, and you can start 
"small" and add more and more features.  So it comes down to what you want 
the radio for.

Best advice I can give is to go visit people who have one or the other and 
see how they "feel" to you.  There is no one rig that is "just right" for 
everyone.

OK, back in my hole,

Ron, KU7Y
SOWP 5545M
Arizona Outlaws Contest Club
Brenda, AZ (Winter)
Caldwell, ID (Summer)
k...@qsl.net
http://www.hatpinsandmore.com
KX3 #0062 

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Re: [Elecraft] Unhappy With Your KX3?

[Frank Precissi]

On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Kevin Kleinfelter wrote:

>
> I'm looking to discover regrets before I drop $1300-$1500 on a recreational
> purchase (i.e. a new toy).  I'm not looking to demonstrate that some radio
> is better or worse than the KX3.  (I'd have to define a specific goal, in
> order for better/worse to be meaningful.)
>
>
I'm in the same boat as you are, and are looking to replace both my FT-817
and my IC-746pro.  Heres what sold me on the KX3 and soon the K3 just by
reading this, the KX3 and K3 yahoo groups.

1. The owner (one of) of the company expressed concerns for someone who had
issues with a product that he sold.

2. The staff actively monitor the mailing-lists and not only help people
out by explaining what goes on behind the curtain (like with the ATU), but
help evolve the product to what WE want vs what THEY want.

When it comes down to the brass tacks (having my IC-746pro sent back to
have the VFO encoder replaced not once, but twice and me footing the bill
both times), good customer service will keep me coming back.  So really,
you can spend a little less and have 'a radio', or you can spend a little
more to have a radio with the backing of not only the company but a very
devout following as well.

Just my 0.02,

Frank
KG6EYC
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[Elecraft] AFX MD

[F5LCI]

I wondered why CW signals were muffled, when listening on the loudspeaker.
I had AFX MD switched on "pitch".
In a future  firmware, a warning message " use phones" could prevent from
doing this mistake.
72 de FO/F5LCI




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