[Elecraft] KX3 - Omit battery holder?
I'm presently at the stage of fitting battery holders into the KX3. I'm dubious about the amount of flexing that the holders have to take, in order to get the screws secure. This is more of a problem with the holder that sits over the square shield, as it has to bend over the shield. I rather don't like the way this is engineered. Seeing that I'm averse to internal batteries anyway, previous bad experience with portable gear, and having read the warnings of potential serious damage if something goes awry with the holder, I plan to omit the holders altogether. The question is - can I fit the holders screws threaded all the way in, so that the heads touch the board, and not suffer some shorting problem? I think it would be OK, but would like informed opinion just in case. Many thanks reflector people Chris VK2ACD K2#3666, K3/10 #685, KX3#4559 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] How to determine K3 filter type - 5-pole or 8-pole
Not a 100% safe way to tell so. A lot of OPs (myself included) let their filters switch in earlier already. I.e. my 400 Hz 8 pole filter is switched in at 500 Hz DSP bandwidth (exactly that is reflected in the filter setup in K3 Utility) already so with Don's suggestion you would think it's a 5 pole filter - not true. The most reliable way is certainly the checking the filters themselves, i.e. hardware. Offset settings *might* be another way as 8 pole filters normally do not have an offset while 5 poles have. But even that might not be 100% ... so take a look at the hardware and be sure what you have. ;-) 73, Olli - DH8BQA - Original Message - From: "Don Wilhelm" To: "Mike Flowers" Cc: Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 10:50 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How to determine K3 filter type - 5-pole or 8-pole Mike, The K3 Utility configuration tab can tell you which filters are installed. You can tell from the filter width whether it is an 8 pole or a 5 pole - compare the installed widths with the filter listing on the Elecraft order page (that page specifies 5 pole and 8 pole). 73, Don W3FPR On 6/21/2013 3:53 PM, Mike Flowers wrote: Hi Gang, I recently bought a used K3 which has filters installed in both the main and sub receivers. Is there an external way of determining if these filters are 5-pole or 8-pole? Is the value of FLx FRQ for each filter a clue? Thanks for your assistance! * 73 de Mike, K6MKF * __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html - E-Mail ist virenfrei. Von AVG uberpruft - www.avg.de Version: 2013.0.3345 / Virendatenbank: 3199/6429 - Ausgabedatum: 21.06.2013 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Colorado to New Zealand on 10 watts
Hi Doug I have replaced all my cable both above and buried with LMR-400 series coax. In fact after doing testing I now use the DXE series MAX400 (best prices and free shipping) same properties and you get it all in one coax DB/UF/400 combined. I recently replaced about 500' of older 7 yr old coax for it on towers and buried. For QRP I always use the lowest loss coax at home where I have longer than 10-15' of coax. I don't want to lose any of my signal from the antenna to the radio so I always use the best coax I can for all HF apps, coax is cheap for what it does and you expect of it. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Doug Person Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 10:03 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Colorado to New Zealand on 10 watts Well, I just replaced my 12 year old buried feed line with some new double-shielded RG-8X. Just to test it out, I connected the antenna system to the KX3. My antenna system consists of 3 trap dipoles: 80/40, 30/17/12 and 20/15/10. I switched to 17 and tuned around. I heard ZL1BD calling CQ. After a few tries Al came back to me with 100% copy. I wouldn't exactly call the band wide open. But, that was a very impressive QSO. For me, after 52 years of hamming - that was a record breaker. See? QRP DOES work! vry 72, de Doug K0DXV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 3199/6429 - Release Date: 06/21/13 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 3199/6429 - Release Date: 06/21/13 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - Omit battery holder?
Hi Chris If you choose not to install the batteries you will be losing one of the major functions of this fine radio and true portable operation. Another problem is the clock and the memory without batteries to maintain them and all the settings. If you plan to have external power hooked to it at all times you will fine with no power outages. Out of the thousands sold I have never saw a post by anyone who didn't have a battery holder. I would never remove mine for sure and have 3 extra sets of batteries ready and charged to go in if needed plus a 7 ah for a spare. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Chris Meagher Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 2:16 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 - Omit battery holder? I'm presently at the stage of fitting battery holders into the KX3. I'm dubious about the amount of flexing that the holders have to take, in order to get the screws secure. This is more of a problem with the holder that sits over the square shield, as it has to bend over the shield. I rather don't like the way this is engineered. Seeing that I'm averse to internal batteries anyway, previous bad experience with portable gear, and having read the warnings of potential serious damage if something goes awry with the holder, I plan to omit the holders altogether. The question is - can I fit the holders screws threaded all the way in, so that the heads touch the board, and not suffer some shorting problem? I think it would be OK, but would like informed opinion just in case. Many thanks reflector people Chris VK2ACD K2#3666, K3/10 #685, KX3#4559 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 3199/6429 - Release Date: 06/21/13 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Watsonville
Any Hotels in or near Watsonville/Aptos would anyone know? Gary -- *Gary - VK1ZZ Skype: Gary.VK1ZZ http://www.qsl.net/vk1zz Motorhome Portable The Shack* *Elecraft K3 P3 Panadapter KPA500FT KAT500FT** * __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] OT: Mac OS X 10.8.4 Question
Would someone contact me off list regarding an issue with applications showing up in the Applications folder but not in Launchpad? Sorry for the BW, but the smartest folks I know are on this list. Thank you. 73, Joel - W4JBB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K1 Relays Not Working
Hi, I'm in the process of building K1 #3224 and all was going well until this evening. I'm at the point in Chap. 7 Alignment and Test, Part 1 "Band-Pass Filter Alignment" (pg. 40). I was able to align B1 (40 meters) but when I attempted to start B2 (30 meters) I realized that the relays were not switching and I could still hear the 40 meter signals although the frequency display showed the 30 meter frequency. Everything else up to this point seems to be working fine but no relays are switching; not on power up or when I try to change bands. All the resistance checks I did according to the manual were right on. I checked for misplaced components, shorts, unsoldered components, components in backwards or in the wrong place on the filter board but everything checks out OK. I measured the voltages on U1 on the filter board and got the following: Pin1 0v Pin2 0v Pin3 0.85v Pin 4 5.94v Pin 5-120v Pin 135.5v Pin 145.9v Pin 152.2v Pin 162.1v Pin 17-180v I was powering the radio with 12.9 volts. According to the DC voltage table on pg 7 Appendix E the only voltages that are off are the voltages on pins 15 and 16. According to the filter board schematic in Appendix B these two pins connect to Z1 the resonator. Any ideas? Regards, Rich Crispi K1YRW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K2 sn 4900-5000 - Upgrades needed?
Ciao Enzo, The last major mod to the K2 was for S/N 4060 and above using Revision B PCB, so you should be OK with S/Ns above 4900. There have been a few other worthwhile mods such as setting AGC level and the Magnetic Level Shielding Kit but these are not absolutely necessary for most applications. LA3ZA has a very nice summary of most K2 mods with links here: http://www.qslnet.de/member/la3za/K2/modAny.html 73, Bill W4ZV -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K2-sn-4900-5000-Upgrades-needed-tp7575646p7575654.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Watsonville
Seacliff inn. See http:www.seacliffinn.com 73 de Dick, K6KR On Jun 22, 2013, at 2:03 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: > Any Hotels in or near Watsonville/Aptos would anyone know? > > Gary > > -- > *Gary - VK1ZZ > Skype: Gary.VK1ZZ > http://www.qsl.net/vk1zz > Motorhome Portable > The Shack* > *Elecraft K3 > P3 Panadapter > KPA500FT > KAT500FT** > > * > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] The K line. Is it the wrong way round?
Roger Crofts wrote > ... I had the P3 directly in front, but I had to reach to the left for all > the important controls. I had the bright idea of switching the positions > of the KPA500 and the K3. It was much better. My right hand fell naturally > upon the tuning controls. ... 73 Roger, VK4YB It says something about the quality of Elecraft gear when this is the only suggestion I can make . I have the K3 / P3 components of the K-Line and quickly found that the K3 MUST be positioned to the right of the P3 for right-handed ops like myself. This makes the two become one -- as my face is directly in front of the P3, my right hand operates the K3. The criticism is that the handle is now squished right in the middle. It would make more sense to have the little rubber feet be between the P3 and K3 when the K3 is on the right -- or at least punch the holes so the operator could have the option during assembly. Regardless, I find the K3/P3 combo to be the most intuitive panadapter setup I have used. I built a SoftRock Ensemble II Rx recently and I find the PC-based panadapters with the mouse controls to be very cumbersome -- all that clicking around and twirling the mouse wheel. Also, the small P3 screen is just the right size for where my eyes are positioned up next to the rig... sometimes bigger is not better. And yes, I was reminded of how great the Elecraft Kool-Aid is this morning after firing up my trusty K1 -- keep 'em coming guys! 73 ES GOD BLESS U ES URS DE KEN N4OI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/The-K-line-Is-it-the-wrong-way-round-tp7575529p7575656.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K2 sn 4900-5000 - Upgrades needed?
None, That K2 has all the upgrades on it already. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/22/2013 2:42 AM, iw7dmh wrote: Good morning, I'm planning to buy a used K2 with serial numbers between 4900 and 5000. I would like to ask what are the upgrades I need to make it equal to the current K2. 73' enzo iw7dmh -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K2-sn-4900-5000-Upgrades-needed-tp7575646.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] For Sale Elecraft k3 & P3 AND Icom IC-7600
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Re: [Elecraft] FS Elecraft K3/100 y ICOM IC-756PRO 3 kc6...@yahoo.com
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Re: [Elecraft] For Sale Elecraft k3 & P3 AND Icom IC-7600
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Re: [Elecraft] FS Elecraft K3/100 & ICOM IC-756PRO III.
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Re: [Elecraft] FS Elecraft K3/100 y ICOM IC-756PRO 3 kc6...@yahoo.com
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[Elecraft] Thanks- FTDI Driver information
Thanks to everyone who gave advice and information on FTDI drivers for Mountain Lion OS for Mac. I really appreciate it. Dick, N5XRD __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] microphones
The Elecraft MH2 is a condenser microphone The Astatic is a crystal microphone A dynamic microphone are they interchangeable -- On the 8th day. God created Amateur Radio and Baseball. NAQCC #0420 SKCC #089 FP #567 Wiol ono __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] OT: 2m beam orientation
Not quite. Dumb terminals were dumb. Rich web applications place a lot of the user interface rendering onto the client. Not at all like dumb terminals. The "Cloud" is a bit more complex than what an old mainframe did. And we are only scratching the surface. Better to think of cloud computing as distributed computing. Properly done, its hard to tell where the client stops and the server begins. And that would be the point. 73, Doug -- K0DXV On 6/21/2013 9:08 PM, Phil Kane wrote: On 6/21/2013 5:23 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: And "computing in a cloud" really sounds like Star Wars although my Kindle Fire at least thinks it has it's own cloud. "Computing in a cloud" is nothing more than an updated version of mainframe-and-terminals from back in the 60s. Now where did I put that VT-100 ?? 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 >From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K1 Relays Not Working (Richard Crispi)
Hello Richard, I can give it a try to help you debugging the problem. I have some time (hi) just completed an K1 upgrade KFL1-4, now QRV on 40m/30m/20m/17m!! No Relays functioning, most likely U1 is not running its program, or does not receive commands via AUX bus. Question: Are you able to turn on/off the attennuator? Also the the Attenuator is controlled by the microcontroller on the filter board. I assume you can not. --> U1 is not running it's program Please double check: 1) P1 and P2, if you have all soldered, did not miss a pin. P2 contains signals that makes communciation with the main controller possible. 2) Especially verify 6R/Aux signal from Main U1 pin8 to Filter U1 pin 13 RB7, did you forget the 100ohm?? R1 3) Double check if resonator is correct mounted? Please let me know your next update on troubleshooting. Also let me know what measuremetn tols you have, DMM, Anloge meter, Oscilloscope, I will adjust my next feedback on your tools. 73 PE1FJN Marc K1: SN2761 - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 6:00 PM Subject: Elecraft Digest, Vol 110, Issue 41 Send Elecraft mailing list submissions to elecraft@mailman.qth.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net You can reach the person managing the list at elecraft-ow...@mailman.qth.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Elecraft digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Colorado to New Zealand on 10 watts (Scotty Long) 2. Re: OT: 2m beam orientation (Walter Underwood) 3. Re: How to reply to specific post on the reflector? (Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft) 4. K2 sn 4900-5000 - Upgrades needed? (iw7dmh) 5. KX3 - Omit battery holder? (Chris Meagher) 6. Re: How to determine K3 filter type - 5-pole or 8-pole (Oliver Dr?se) 7. Re: Colorado to New Zealand on 10 watts (Fred Smith) 8. Re: KX3 - Omit battery holder? (Fred Smith) 9. Watsonville (Gary Gregory) 10. OT: Mac OS X 10.8.4 Question (Joel Black) 11. K1 Relays Not Working (Richard Crispi) 12. Re: K2 sn 4900-5000 - Upgrades needed? (Bill W4ZV) 13. Re: Watsonville (Dick Dievendorff) 14. Re: The K line. Is it the wrong way round? (N4OI - Ken) 15. Re: K2 sn 4900-5000 - Upgrades needed? (Don Wilhelm) 16. Re: For Sale Elecraft k3 & P3 AND Icom IC-7600 (on4iq) 17. Re: FS Elecraft K3/100 y ICOM IC-756PRO 3 kc6...@yahoo.com (on4iq) 18. Re: For Sale Elecraft k3 & P3 AND Icom IC-7600 (on4iq) 19. Re: FS Elecraft K3/100 & ICOM IC-756PRO III. (on4iq) 20. Re: FS Elecraft K3/100 y ICOM IC-756PRO 3 kc6...@yahoo.com (on4iq) 21. Thanks- FTDI Driver information (Richard W Hemingway) -- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 22:52:52 -0500 From: Scotty Long Cc: Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Colorado to New Zealand on 10 watts Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" That's very cool Doug, have a great weekend and safe field day...Hope to work you... 72/73/Scotty/NU?S Doug Person wrote: Well, I just replaced my 12 year old buried feed line with some new double-shielded RG-8X. Just to test it out, I connected the antenna system to the KX3. My antenna system consists of 3 trap dipoles: 80/40, 30/17/12 and 20/15/10. I switched to 17 and tuned around. I heard ZL1BD calling CQ. After a few tries Al came back to me with 100% copy. I wouldn't exactly call the band wide open. But, that was a very impressive QSO. For me, after 52 years of hamming - that was a record breaker. See? QRP DOES work! vry 72, de Doug K0DXV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 21:14:20 -0700 From: Walter Underwood To: Elecraft Discussion List Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: 2m beam orientation Message-ID: <795f3473-5886-4715-a691-b9252ef3b...@wunderwood.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Jun 21, 2013, at 8:08 PM, Phil Kane wrote: "Computing in a cloud" is nothing more than an updated version of mainframe-and-terminals from back in the 60s. Now where did I put that VT-100 ?? Not even close. I've done both and they are categorically different. Mainframes were single highly-reliable, very fast, extremely expensive systems. The cloud is a swarm of unreliable slow systems. My laptop is faster than most of our cloud instances. Systems need a total redesign to run well in a cloud. wunder -- Walter Underwood K6WRU CM87wj -- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 21 Ju
[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net cancelled this week
The SSB net will not meet this weekend due to Field Day. Get out and enjoy this great event. See you next week. 73, Phil, NS7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KXBC3 says it's not installed.
I have had the KXBC3 installed for some time now in the KX3. I have not been able to read the voltage reading in VFO B for about 2 weeks now. Just thought it was a menu setting and was going to look into it later. Today is field day and the internal batteries were charged last night. I now wanted to get the voltage reading up on VFO B. The rig works on the internal batteries but when I check the menu BAT CHG the message I get is not inST. If I try to change it to installed I am not able to do that.not sure what is up here. Mike VE3WDM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] microphones
Robert, Condenser & Dynamic microphones can both be used with a K3 or KX3. The Astatic microphone may be a crystal of ceramic microphone element (depending on when it was manufactured). There have been discussions on this reflector that it may work without an interface; others say it needs an interface. I use an Astatic for my desk microphone for my K3; unfortunately the crystal element was defective. I replaced the element with an electret from Radio Shack. Works well with good reports. 73 George AI4VZ -Original Message- From: Robert 'RC' Conley Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 12:00 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] microphones The Elecraft MH2 is a condenser microphone The Astatic is a crystal microphone A dynamic microphone are they interchangeable -- On the 8th day. God created Amateur Radio and Baseball. NAQCC #0420 SKCC #089 FP #567 Wiol ono __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K2 sn 4900-5000 - Upgrades needed?
Thank you Don, this is great news :) I hope that the price does not increase accordingly! :) HI Thank also to you Bill, the link you posted is rich of useful information. 73 'enzo iw7dmh -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K2-sn-4900-5000-Upgrades-needed-tp7575646p7575670.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 frequency loss
I noticed something very suspicious. The older K3 marketing photog shows VCOs A/B as 14.195.000/14.200.00 and the newer photog shows 14.175.30/14.180.30. Enquiring minds want to know why! Where did the 20 kHz go? Don NA6Z K3/KPA500/KAT500 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 frequency loss
Some people have far to much time on their hands! Best regards, Tim Hague Skype m0afj.Tim Sent on my iPad On 22 Jun 2013, at 22:08, Don Putnick wrote: > I noticed something very suspicious. The older K3 marketing photog shows VCOs > A/B as 14.195.000/14.200.00 and the newer photog shows 14.175.30/14.180.30. > Enquiring minds want to know why! Where did the 20 kHz go? > > Don NA6Z K3/KPA500/KAT500 > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Looking for an LP pan and EMU 0202
Is there anyone thinking about putting their LP Pan and sound card such as E-MU 0202 up for sale. I am looking for one for my Elecraft K3. MikeVE3WDM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3/100 For Sale
I've been hesitant to place this ad here because of all the scams lately, but here goes. I am selling one of my K3s, serial number 6067 purchased as a kit on December 6, 2011. I originally purchased this without the KPA3 internal 100 watt module, but later on upgraded it. This K3 has the following options installed: KFL3A-2.7 (2.7 kHz 5 pole filter); KFL3A-2.1 (2.1 kHz 8 pole filter); KFLA3-500 (500 kHz 5 pole filter); KXV3A RX Antenna, IF output and Transverter interface. The current price of the above is approximately $2,400. My asking price is $1973.00 plus shipping. All of the above is in 100% operating condition, the reason for selling is this was used primarily as a backup rig and has had little use. Please contact me off this list for several pictures of each side of the rig (there are a couple of minor scratches if you look very carefully on the top right cover), as well as close up pictures showing the serial number and the sales invoice #84661. 73 de Sebastian, W4AS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Elecraft and Ten Tec
It is time for a new rig; actually my first "new" rig in many years since I typically buy a used rig from someone. I own both Elecraft and Ten Tec; K-1 and Omni 6 among others. The choice I am working on now is that of either the K-3 or the Eagle. The K-3 with one filter for CW will be more expensive than the Eagle with one filter (not by much) and of course the Eagle is not a kit. I operate mostly CW for rag chew, occasional contest, and DX. I do not think that I need all the options shown on the Elecraft website order form. I have never seen a K-3 up close, but I am concerned about the menu that some say takes a lot of getting used to. So several questions: is the menu concern not really an issue (?) or is it ; do I need anything else in the way of options (I have a good ATU) (?); and does the physical size of the control face pose a problem in your opinion. Please feel free to reply directly offline since I am sure the list has heard these questions many times. I would like to hear from you. 73s Roger W7RIP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 frequency loss
Seriously ... ? What is it that is suspicious? Please enlighten. Looks like a normal K3 to me. Suppose to be a full moon I thing tonight too. Steve - W5JK On Jun 22, 2013, at 4:08 PM, Don Putnick wrote: > I noticed something very suspicious. The older K3 marketing photog shows VCOs > A/B as 14.195.000/14.200.00 and the newer photog shows 14.175.30/14.180.30. > Enquiring minds want to know why! Where did the 20 kHz go? > > Don NA6Z K3/KPA500/KAT500 > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 frequency loss
At least it doesn't read 14.313.000... On Jun 22, 2013, at 16:08, Don Putnick wrote: > I noticed something very suspicious. The older K3 marketing photog shows VCOs > A/B as 14.195.000/14.200.00 and the newer photog shows 14.175.30/14.180.30. > Enquiring minds want to know why! Where did the 20 kHz go? > > Don NA6Z K3/KPA500/KAT500 > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] FS: KFL3A-6K, 6 kHz AM / ESSB, 8-pole filter
Hello Group, This filter is now surplus to my requirements. I would like to sell it at USD115 including shipping by registered airmail to major cities in the world. I accept payment by paypal. The filter will come with all the required mounting hardwares. If interested, please email me off-the-list at vr2xmc at yahoo dot com dot hk TNX & 73, Johnny VR2XMC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] On the horns of a dilemma - upgrade K3 to 100w or buy KXPA100+ATU?
Sort of talking out loud here, but all opinions are welcome. As the subject says, I'm debating as to whether to buy the KPA3 module to bring my K3 to 100w, or spend about twice as much for the KXPA100+ATU. The K3 and KX3 are so similar in specs and capabilities that I think I'll be using the KX3 only for Field Day and other portable operation, with the K3 as a home station. But the KXPA100 offers the possibility to use it with my K2, K3/10 and KX3, as well as other QRP radios in the shack, such as the FT-817 and the QRP++ Dumb question: I have the KAT3 ATU Installed in the K3. Will it handle 100w if I upgrade to the KPA3, or will I have to replace it? I didn't see an ATU with a higher power rating on the Elecraft order form. Thanks for any thoughts and 73 de Jim - AD6CW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] On the horns of a dilemma - upgrade K3 to 100w or buy KXPA100+ATU?
The KAT3 handles the 100 watt output of the K3 with KPA3. 73 de Dick, K6KR On Jun 22, 2013, at 8:00 PM, Jim Lowman wrote: > Sort of talking out loud here, but all opinions are welcome. > > As the subject says, I'm debating as to whether to buy the KPA3 module to > bring my K3 to 100w, or spend about twice as much for the KXPA100+ATU. > > The K3 and KX3 are so similar in specs and capabilities that I think I'll be > using the KX3 only for Field Day and other portable operation, with the K3 as > a home station. > But the KXPA100 offers the possibility to use it with my K2, K3/10 and KX3, > as well as other QRP radios in the shack, such as the FT-817 and the QRP++ > > Dumb question: I have the KAT3 ATU Installed in the K3. Will it handle 100w > if I upgrade to the KPA3, or will I have to replace it? I didn't see an ATU > with a higher power rating on the Elecraft order form. > > Thanks for any thoughts and 73 de Jim - AD6CW > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KRC2 Troubleshooting
I have completed my KRC2 to the point of the smoke test. No smoke ... I guess that is good. When I power up, the LED lights (low), but no "short delay while the KRC2 performs diagnostics." The first test step, "Holding F1" , fails to produce 12 volts at the 60M source, or at any of ther terminals. I have done about 2 hours of visual inspection. Every diode is correctly oriented, as are all the ICs and the electrolytics. I am beginning to wonder if I have the voltage regulator in backward, though it looks exactly right. TGhe schematic says I should have +5 volts at C14 and +12 V at C13. I have the reverse. Before I try to unsolder U3, can someone confirm that those 2 caps are correctly labeled on the schematic? Also can someone describe the pin numbering for U3. It really looks like it is in there correctly. Also, the +5V end of D8 reads +5V (which should be right), but the -12V end of R12 is only -10.4V. Do these clues suggest anything? Tnx. 73 de Brian W3BW *Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A. *70 is the new 40.* * Mail: 1107 Key Plaza, PMB 447 Key West, FL 33040-4077 Summers: P.O.Box 57, 7400 Augustine Herman Highway, Georgetown, MD 21930 eFax 305.768.0278 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] microphones
RC, No, they are not interchangable. The impedance is the problem. The unamplified D-104 (and other Astatic crystal [or ceramic] element mics needs a high impedance to work into and sound good. The K2 and K3 have a low impedance input. If you have the amplified D-104, then it will drive the K2 or K3 just fine. For the unamplified version, some have stated success by putting a 47k to 1 megohm resistor in series with the AF line. I use an FET in the base of my D-104 to change from high impedance to low (my D-104 needs bias to power the FET). One way to convert the microphone is to discard the original element and replace it with an electret element (which needs bias just like the MH2 microphone). 73, Don W3FPR On 6/22/2013 12:00 PM, Robert 'RC' Conley wrote: The Elecraft MH2 is a condenser microphone The Astatic is a crystal microphone A dynamic microphone are they interchangeable __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] microphones
Robert, Off topic but... I love your quote at the end of your email, "On the 8th day. God created Amateur Radio and Baseball." Read it to the xyl and she rolled her eyes and said that you forgot to add "beer" to your lineHihi. Check out my QRZ page. 73, Steve KS6PD Kx3 #3604 On Saturday, June 22, 2013, GDanner wrote: > Robert, > Condenser & Dynamic microphones can both be used with a K3 or KX3. > The Astatic microphone may be a crystal of ceramic microphone element > (depending on when it was manufactured). There have been discussions on > this > reflector that it may work without an interface; others say it needs an > interface. > I use an Astatic for my desk microphone for my K3; unfortunately the > crystal > element was defective. I replaced the element with an electret from Radio > Shack. Works well with good reports. > 73 > George > AI4VZ > > -Original Message- > From: Robert 'RC' Conley > Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 12:00 PM > To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] microphones > > The Elecraft MH2 is a condenser microphone > The Astatic is a crystal microphone > A dynamic microphone > are they interchangeable > > -- > On the 8th day. God created Amateur Radio and Baseball. > > NAQCC #0420 > SKCC #089 > FP #567 > Wiol ono > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] OT: 2m beam orientation
On 6/22/2013 9:28 AM, Doug Person wrote: > Not quite. Dumb terminals were dumb. Rich web applications place a lot > of the user interface rendering onto the client. Not at all like dumb > terminals. The "Cloud" is a bit more complex than what an old mainframe > did. And we are only scratching the surface. Better to think of cloud > computing as distributed computing. Properly done, its hard to tell > where the client stops and the server begins. Our servers are our property and under our control. The cloud is under who-knows-whose control who-knows-where. We made a conscious decision that we will not put our sensitive client or company data - some classified - on such a system. 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 >From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] OT: 2m beam orientation
Phil, IMHO, that is a wise decision. While "the cloud" is supposed to be secure, I have my doubts. The only thing I would consider committing to the cloud would possibly be encrypted off-site backup data, but for now, my RAID file server serves that purpose quite nicely, although it does not offer me off-site backup storage in case of a major disaster. I can write my backup data periodically to DVDs and keep them at a different location should I deem that necessary. I do not have anything that is classified, so am most concerned about data recovery in case a disaster totally destroys the drives on my file server. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/22/2013 11:47 PM, Phil Kane wrote: Our servers are our property and under our control. The cloud is under who-knows-whose control who-knows-where. We made a conscious decision that we will not put our sensitive client or company data - some classified - on such a system. 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] OT: 2m beam orientation
you are doing it every day. Verisign, the banks, they ARE the "cloud". They have all your info .now. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 9:11 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: 2m beam orientation Phil, IMHO, that is a wise decision. While "the cloud" is supposed to be secure, I have my doubts. The only thing I would consider committing to the cloud would possibly be encrypted off-site backup data, but for now, my RAID file server serves that purpose quite nicely, although it does not offer me off-site backup storage in case of a major disaster. I can write my backup data periodically to DVDs and keep them at a different location should I deem that necessary. I do not have anything that is classified, so am most concerned about data recovery in case a disaster totally destroys the drives on my file server. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/22/2013 11:47 PM, Phil Kane wrote: > Our servers are our property and under our control. The cloud is under > who-knows-whose control who-knows-where. We made a conscious decision > that we will not put our sensitive client or company data - some > classified - on such a system. 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Anyone have a P3 for sale? And filter swap?
If so please contact me off list with details with price shipped to zip 45324. I may also have a 1.8 khz SSB filter to trade for a 400 hz cw filter, or possibly sell outright. n...@woh.rr.com Thanks Tim NZ8J __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] HOW TO REPLY TO SPECIFIC POST ON THE REFLECTOR?
First of all reset your email so that it doesn't reject everything that is not in your address book ;o) 73, Tom Amateur Radio Operator N5GE ARRL Lifetime Member QCWA Lifetime Member On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 11:35:30 -0700, "Dick Diddams" wrote: >GOOD MORNING GARY: > > > >NORMALLY, I'D SEND MY COMMENTS DIRECTLY TO THE "REFLECTOR WRITER" BUT YOUR >EMAIL SUGGESTS PROPER ETIQUETTE IS TO REPLY TO THE ENTIRE GROUP (THIS I DID >NOT KNOW - WILL ALWAYS DO THIS IN THE FUTURE). > > > >WHERE DOES ONE OBTAIN COPY OF THE RULES STATING WHAT IS "DEAD WRONG AND >IMPOLITE" FORMATTING TO USE ON THIS REFLECTOR? COMMON SENSE WOULD INDICATE >PROFANITY SHOULDN'T BE USED. BEING DISRESPTECTFUL TO OTHERS WOULDN'T BE >PROPER. PUBLIC LECTURING, ISN'T COOL EITHER, BUT THIS PROBABLY ISN'T IN THE >RULE BOOK. > > > >BY THE WAY, I READ (THE SUBJECT MATTER, PRIMARILY) THIS REFLECTOR ONCE EVERY >COUPLE OF WEEKS OR SO; GUESS THE RULES WERE NOT NOTED. IF A QUESTION NEEDS >TO BE ANSWERED, I'LL SEARCH THE INTERNET FIRST AND IF A RESPONSE CAN'T BE >LOCATED, I'LL CALL ELECRAFT DIRECTILY FOR ADVICE. > > > >I'M NOT EMAIL SAVY - WHEN WORKING HAD SECRETARY WHO HANDLED ALL MY MAIL. >RETIRED (OFFSHOFRE) MANUFACTUING PLANT MANAGER 15-YEARS AGO AT THE AGE OF >62. BEEN STRUGGLING WITH EMAIL SINCE RETIRING - MISS MY SCRIBE! HI > > > >REGARDS, > > > >DICK DIDDAMS - W7QHE (99.9% OPERATION IS CW) > >dickdidd...@earthlink.net > >PS - OWNER OF KX1, K2, K3, KAT500, P3 AND KPA500. > > > >== > > > >Message: 1 > >Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 09:00:30 -0600 > >From: AG0N-3055 > >To: elecraft > >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How to reply to specific post on the reflector? > > > >On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 10:24:57 -0400, W2RU - Bud Hippisley wrote: > > > >> Basically, the English language should prevail. "Reply" clearly refers >to the sender, not the medium. "Reply All" means exactly what it says. I >hope the list moderator will keep it just the way it is. > > > >This is dead wrong and impolite. The originator asked THE GROUP, and >the reply need to go to the group. There is no reason to assume that the >originator is the only person who wants to hear the answer. Otherwise, the >list would operate in such a way that when you subscribe, you receive a >listing of those who are also subscribed. You pick a call who you think >might know the answer to your question and send them a personal note and he >replies back to you. Pretty stupid isn't it. Even if you think it is a >dumb question that you have to ask, I guarantee you that there is someone >like you who also doesn't know the answer and didn't post the question but >is anxiously waiting for someone to answer it so he will know too. > > > >This list owner happens to want it this way (apparently), so we have to put >up with it. > > > >> Too many impolitic e-mails intended for a single individual have received >bulk distribution via reflectors set up so that "Reply" sends it to the >group. > > > >That's part of the group environment and public sharing of information. Do >you read the paper to see one item only? No, you read the paper to see what >is new and what is interesting. Ever pick up the paper and see something >that surprised you and you were glad you saw it? That's what groups/lists >are for. You cheat everyone else out of the answer and also future >searchers for information are deprived of having the answers to their >questions by not allowing the answers to be public. > > > > > > > >Gary __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
