[Elecraft] NAQCC Sprint Wednesday Night

2015-07-11 Thread Larry Makoski
The July sprint is this coming Wednesday evening local time (July 15th,
EDT - 8:30-10:30PM, CDT - 7:30-9:30PM, MDT - 6:30-8:30PM, PDT - 5:30-7:30PM),
which translates as Thursday, July 16th, 0030 to 0230Z in all cases.

For all the official information, please go to:

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There you will find all the details as to time, frequencies and other important
information.

Certificates: SWA (simple wire antennas) certificates by call area, VE and DX
for 1st, 2nd and 3rd place finishers (New!). A Certificate for top score in the
GAIN antenna category.

Prizes: Too many to list!! - check out the prizes page on our website.

This is a monthly event that caters to the CW veteran, the CW newcomer, straight
key and bug fans. All are welcome to participate (this includes QRO); but you
must use QRP power levels to compete for awards.

If you've been hesitant to join in our sprints because you hear other sprints
running at breakneck speeds, have no fear. Our sprints are geared to the
newcomer to CW and/or contesting. Virtually everyone including the many veteran
contesters who regularly enter our sprints will slow down to YOUR speed to help
you make your contacts.

If you are not already a member of NAQCC... membership is FREE! Now is your
chance to join the largest QRP CW Club in the world!! We currently have 7100+
members in: All 50 States - 9 VE Provinces - 100 Countries. Sign up on the
NAQCC website today (http://naqcc.info/) and receive a handsome certificate,
with your membership number on it, which is good for life.

Come join us and have a real good time!

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Re: [Elecraft] MacOSX Logging Software

2015-07-11 Thread Mike Reublin NF4L
After trying several Mac logging programs when switching from Windoze, RUMLog 
is the clear winner for me. Focus on what meets your logging needs, they all 
support Th K-series as far as control goes.

RUMLog ties in well with fldigi for digital modes, has a really good interface 
to LoTW and cluster. It does not have built in rotor control, but I wrote a 
program that talks to it via Apple script. http://nf4l.com and some fldigi 
config notes.

Since you mention LoTW, I assume you are interested in DX. Tom DL2RUM is an 
active DXer and it shows in his program. And RUMLog is free.

73, Mike NF4L


 On Jul 10, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Byron Peebles n...@arrl.net wrote:
 
 With my migration from TenTec to Elecraft, I was planning to also move my 
 logging and station control from Windows to MacOSX.  I have found sources 
 like DogParkRadio to be tempting, but I wanted to check with Elecraft users 
 on which packages best support the K3 (and upcoming K3S).
 
 I use mostly HF CW/SSB, but rotor control (M2),, LoTW, DX Cluster integration 
 are important.  And I might try other digital modes in the future.
 
 73, Byron
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Odd freq shift in diversity mode after VFO upgrade

2015-07-11 Thread Don Wilhelm

Rick,

When you say WWV zero beats at exactly 10.000 in USB mode, what exactly 
are you zero beating?  The carrier or one of the transmitted tones?
What happens if you are not in either Split or Diversity - reception on 
the main receiver only (turn the SUB off)?


What the P3 should show is the WWV carrier at 10.000 MHz, but the K3 
audio will not be receiving that carrier in SSB mode.  The K3 will 
receive one or the other of the sidebands, so the green band will be 
offset from the center indicating the sideband that is being received.  
The center of the green band should be offset by the amount of shift you 
have dialed in on the SHIFT/WIDTH knobs.  If you are using LO/HI CUT, 
the amount it should be shifted will be the center of the difference 
between the Hi and Lo frequencies.


Normally when you listen to an SSB station, the K3 frequency will 
indicate the suppressed carrier frequency - but WWV is an AM station, 
and when tuned properly to listen to the audio, you will not hear the 
carrier (it is out of the receive passband), but the P3 will still 
indicate the carrier of the WWV signal.


73,
Don W3FPR



On 7/11/2015 1:56 PM, rick.ag...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all

I have a very odd thing happening in diversity mode after installing the new
VFO's.  I have a K3 with dual receivers and new VFOs using a dipole and loop
antenna when in diversity.  I also have a P3.  I am on current 5.29 firmware
and have successfully gone through all required calibration steps after
upgrading the VFO.

Scenario follows ...

I am listening to WWV 10 MHz in USB mode.

When I am in Split, not Diversity, WWV zero beats at exactly 10.000 MHz.
The P3 green band denoting the K3's passband is nicely lined up with the
upper sideband of WWV.

When I am in Diversity mode, however, WWV zero beats at exactly 9.9985 MHz.
On the P3 I clearly see the WWV signal at 10.000 MHz while the green band
denoting the K3's frequency is just as clearly 1.5 kHz lower.

I can't figure out what is causing this -1.5 kHz shift!

I have had my K3 for some time so I feel I am reasonably competent with it
:) but this has me stumped.

I have asked K3 Support about this but I thought someone out there might
have seen and dealt this this already.

73
Rick AG6AY
K3 5706
P3 1835



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[Elecraft] K2 Alignment

2015-07-11 Thread Tom Field
I've been using my K2/100 for a couple of years, and have been very
satisfied. I have noted some drift in the freq, so decided to go through a
complete realignment process.

On Page 65 of the manual it describes a measurement of the BFO range as
being 4-6 kHz. I measure 3.52 kHz. Question one, is this sufficiently out
to be of concern? and question 2, what are the next steps to correct any
problem?

Tom
KN6DR
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[Elecraft] [K3] Odd freq shift in diversity mode after VFO upgrade

2015-07-11 Thread rick.ag...@gmail.com
Hi all

I have a very odd thing happening in diversity mode after installing the new
VFO's.  I have a K3 with dual receivers and new VFOs using a dipole and loop
antenna when in diversity.  I also have a P3.  I am on current 5.29 firmware
and have successfully gone through all required calibration steps after
upgrading the VFO.   

Scenario follows ... 

I am listening to WWV 10 MHz in USB mode.

When I am in Split, not Diversity, WWV zero beats at exactly 10.000 MHz. 
The P3 green band denoting the K3's passband is nicely lined up with the
upper sideband of WWV.

When I am in Diversity mode, however, WWV zero beats at exactly 9.9985 MHz. 
On the P3 I clearly see the WWV signal at 10.000 MHz while the green band
denoting the K3's frequency is just as clearly 1.5 kHz lower.

I can't figure out what is causing this -1.5 kHz shift!

I have had my K3 for some time so I feel I am reasonably competent with it
:) but this has me stumped.

I have asked K3 Support about this but I thought someone out there might
have seen and dealt this this already.

73 
Rick AG6AY
K3 5706
P3 1835



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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Odd freq shift in diversity mode after VFO upgrade

2015-07-11 Thread rick.ag...@gmail.com
Everyone - much thanks for the input.  I will try for a compiled response
since I had so many responses!

what exactly are you zero beating? 
The WWV carrier ... well ok I'm not exactly zero beating in the proper
sense.  By tuning the K3 through the 10.000 MHz WWV AM station using SSB
mode with Lo = 0.00, I can quickly confirm the extremely low frequency audio
is indeed the carrier and that it 'goes through zero Hz at 10.000 MHz. 
Again, this is not a proper zero beat but it's close enough for Gov't work
:)

What happens if you are not in either Split or Diversity
WWV 10 MHz carrier 'zero beatsz at exactly 10.000 MHz

If you are using LO/HI CUT ... and other comments about band pass ...
Yep, understood. Lo = 0.00 and Hi = 2.80 when I observed this. 

Normally when you listen to an SSB station ...
Yep, understand.  See my test description.

If you have a combination of 5- and 8-pole filters in the main and/or sub
receivers
I used 8-pole filters exclusively.  I -did- buy them about a year or two
apart, however, that should not matter.

What filters do you have installed?
Main: 1=15k, 2=6k,  3=2.8k, 4=2.1k, 5=0.4k
 Sub: 1=0.0, 2=0.0, 3=2.8k, 4=2.1k, 5=0.4k
 Freq Offset = 0.00 for all
 Gain = 0.00 for all except Filter 5 which is set to 2 db on Main and Sub
 
Pay close attention to the filter bandwidth you have dialed in, and make
sure that BOTH the main receiver and sub-receiver are using filters of the
SAME bandwidth

OK, I took a good hard look at the XFIL value as I went in and out of
Diversity ...
Tuning to 10. again.
Lo = 0.00 and Hi = 2.80 
Main Rx uses FL3 (2.8 kHz).
Diversity uses FL3 also.


*Now wait a darned minute* ... the 1.5 kHz shift 'went away'.  I don't know
how.  I did fix some 20M DIGOUT settings I had whacked over Field Day but
that surely can't affect this.



Wayne
I can no longer replicate this and I have not a clue how it fixed itself.


I'm game to try more tests but heck I'm going to use this on IARU while I
can!

Rick AG6AY



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Re: [Elecraft] Remote KAT500

2015-07-11 Thread Jeff Cochrane - VK4XA
Fred, 
Wouldn't it be easier to just buy something like one of MFJ's remote tuners
that are built exactly for the job you want your KAT500 to do?
If I had a KAT500, I don't think I'd want my $700 Elecraft auto tuner left
outside, where it was never meant to be. (Even if it was in a sealed,
water-proof container).
(And yes, I use a MFJ remote ATU for my portable Vertical.)

Jeff C. VK4XA

k6dgw wrote
 I'd like to hear from anyone who has remoted a KAT500 out to the base of 
 a vertical.  We're moving to an HOA community.  The HOA appears to be 
 quite benign and benevolent, I'm planning on a flag pole [with a flag on 
 good wx days] in the backyard, with an insulator at the bottom where I'd 
 like to remote my KAT500 in a wx-proof box.  I'll probably power it 
 through the same conduit that carries the coax.  It would not be 
 connected to the K3 of course.
 
 I'd like to run it in MAN mode as I do now.  If I start in AUTO and step 
 through all the band segments, will it learn the settings, and just 
 recall them as soon as it senses RF?
 
 73,
 
 Fred K6DGW
 - Northern California Contest Club
 - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
 - www.cqp.org





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Jeff Cochrane - VK4XA
Innisfail, QLD, Australia.
K3 #4767

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Odd freq shift in diversity mode after VFO upgrade

2015-07-11 Thread d...@lightstream.net
Rick,

I'll bet that when the frequency shift occurred, you had your bandwidth
dialed to something  2.8KHz because in that situation, your Main RX
filter would have been using your 6KHz filter in slot #2, and your SUB
filter for slot #2 would have been -- EMPTY.

Have fun in the contest!

73,
Dale  WA8SRA



 What filters do you have installed?
 Main: 1=15k, 2=6k,  3=2.8k, 4=2.1k, 5=0.4k
  Sub: 1=0.0, 2=0.0, 3=2.8k, 4=2.1k, 5=0.4k
  Freq Offset = 0.00 for all
  Gain = 0.00 for all except Filter 5 which is set to 2 db on Main and Sub

 Pay close attention to the filter bandwidth you have dialed in, and make
 sure that BOTH the main receiver and sub-receiver are using filters of the
 SAME bandwidth

 OK, I took a good hard look at the XFIL value as I went in and out of
 Diversity ...
 Tuning to 10. again.
 Lo = 0.00 and Hi = 2.80
 Main Rx uses FL3 (2.8 kHz).
 Diversity uses FL3 also.

 
 *Now wait a darned minute* ... the 1.5 kHz shift 'went away'.  I don't
 know
 how.  I did fix some 20M DIGOUT settings I had whacked over Field Day but
 that surely can't affect this.
 


 Wayne
 I can no longer replicate this and I have not a clue how it fixed itself.


 I'm game to try more tests but heck I'm going to use this on IARU while I
 can!

 Rick AG6AY



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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Odd freq shift in diversity mode after VFO upgrade

2015-07-11 Thread rick.ag...@gmail.com
Dale 
Hmm.  I very well could have set Hi = 3.0 and that would set up the scenario
you mentioned. Cool. That should not take long to try.

However, I don't recall an absolute requirement for filter parity between
main and sub rx as the firmware should select the largest available even
when desired BW  filter BW.  I know diversity quality would be impacted if
the filters were not identical but I would not have expected a -freq- shift
like I observed.  

OK I just tried WWV with Lo = 0.00 and Hi = 3.0 on A and B VFO (using BSET).

I am in USB Diversity mode tuned to WWV 10.000 MHz.
WWV sounds fine
XFIL = FL2 (6 kHz) -- yep. this is expected.
I hit BSET
XFIL = FL3 (2.8 kHz) -- Actually this is what I expected since this is the
widest filter on RX B

where
Main: 1=15k, 2=6k,  3=2.8k, 4=2.1k, 5=0.4k 
Sub: 1=0.0, 2=0.0, 3=2.8k, 4=2.1k, 5=0.4k 

... and no mysterious frequency shift.


I still can't figure out where the 1.5 kHz shift came from but I'm grateful
it is gone!

Rick AG6AY





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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Odd freq shift in diversity mode after VFO upgrade

2015-07-11 Thread rick.ag...@gmail.com
Dale 

I think you may be on to something!

I just used diversity on 20M in IARU and it is obvious that 
- RX A is on freq
- RX B is 1.5 kHz low

When I use BSET I see 
- RX A XFIL = FL2 (6 kHz)
I hit BSET 
- RX B XFIL = FL3 (2.8 kHz) 

I then adjusted Hi from 3.0 kHz to 2.8 kHz.

Lo!  The instant the displayed RX A XFIL changed from  FL2 (6 kHz) to FL3
(2.8 kHz) I magically heard the RX B audio shift magically by 1.5 kHz to
align with RX B audio.

Wow.  That was -very- interesting to replicate!  Thanks for poking at this
with me.

*Now that I understand it, I can work around it. Much, much thanks!*


Wayne
I think we have an honest live one for you now!


Cheers
Rick AG6AY

Interesting!
Rick AG6AY



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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Odd freq shift in diversity mode after VFO upgrade

2015-07-11 Thread d...@lightstream.net
Hi Rick,

Pay close attention to the filter bandwidth you have dialed in, and make
sure that BOTH the main receiver and sub-receiver are using filters of the
SAME bandwidth (with offset adjusted if they are not 8-pole filters). For
example, if your main RX has a 2.8 KHz filter installed and you are
listening within that bandwidth, be sure that your sub-RX is ALSO using a
2.8 KHz filter. If not, you'll experience the frequency shift. I don't
claim to know why; only that I've observed that behavior here with the new
Synths. This shift did not occur with the original Synth cards. I don't
consider it to be a problem; it just means that I need to get another
filter for the sub-receiver so that the filter complement of the sub-RX
matches that of the main RX, (which is supposed to be the case when using
diversity reception anyway).

If you have a bandwidth where you know that both the main RX and sub-RX
are using the SAME filter bandwidth, use that bandwidth and see if the
issue still occurs. If it does, then the issue is being caused by
something other than what I mentioned above.

73, Dale
WA8SRA


 Hi all

 I have a very odd thing happening in diversity mode after installing the
 new
 VFO's.  I have a K3 with dual receivers and new VFOs using a dipole and
 loop
 antenna when in diversity.  I also have a P3.  I am on current 5.29
 firmware
 and have successfully gone through all required calibration steps after
 upgrading the VFO.

 Scenario follows ...

 I am listening to WWV 10 MHz in USB mode.

 When I am in Split, not Diversity, WWV zero beats at exactly 10.000 MHz.
 The P3 green band denoting the K3's passband is nicely lined up with the
 upper sideband of WWV.

 When I am in Diversity mode, however, WWV zero beats at exactly 9.9985
 MHz.
 On the P3 I clearly see the WWV signal at 10.000 MHz while the green band
 denoting the K3's frequency is just as clearly 1.5 kHz lower.

 I can't figure out what is causing this -1.5 kHz shift!

 I have had my K3 for some time so I feel I am reasonably competent with it
 :) but this has me stumped.

 I have asked K3 Support about this but I thought someone out there might
 have seen and dealt this this already.

 73
 Rick AG6AY
 K3 5706
 P3 1835



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[Elecraft] Remote KAT500

2015-07-11 Thread Fred Jensen
I'd like to hear from anyone who has remoted a KAT500 out to the base of 
a vertical.  We're moving to an HOA community.  The HOA appears to be 
quite benign and benevolent, I'm planning on a flag pole [with a flag on 
good wx days] in the backyard, with an insulator at the bottom where I'd 
like to remote my KAT500 in a wx-proof box.  I'll probably power it 
through the same conduit that carries the coax.  It would not be 
connected to the K3 of course.


I'd like to run it in MAN mode as I do now.  If I start in AUTO and step 
through all the band segments, will it learn the settings, and just 
recall them as soon as it senses RF?


73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
- www.cqp.org
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Alignment

2015-07-11 Thread Don Wilhelm

Tom,

Your limited BFO range will only be a problem when aligning the IF 
filters.  If you find you cannot align the filters properly, then you 
will have to correct that problem, but it may be a case that you have a 
marginal solder connection somewhere in the BFO area and re-flowing the 
soldering will give you a wider range.  Look at the RF Board schematic 
sheet 2 in the lower right corner to identify the components involved 
with the BFO.


Typically the K2 does not drift but a few Hz after being given a bit of 
a warmup period (10 or 15 minutes).
Proper dial calibration and drift are 2 different things.  Drift is the 
frequency change over a short period of time, such as a single operating 
session (usually do to temperature changes).
Dial Calibration can change over time, but typically does not vary much 
because the calibration data is contained in EEPROM and does not depend 
on any realtime reference oscillator for accuracy and consistency.


If your situation is really drift (by my definition above), then I need 
to ask how old is your K2 (serial number please).  If it is SN 3000 or 
below, does it have the A to B upgrades as well as the other Elecraft 
mods installed.  There are 2 mod kits that are important for temperature 
stability - the BFOMDKT and  E850138 (the PLL temperature compensation 
mod - so called thermistor mod).  Look at the BFO inductor L33 on the 
bottom of the RF board - if it has many turns of fine wire and is held 
in place by a 1/8 watt resistor, then you have the BFOMDKT installed.
Then look on the top of the RF board on the left side near the Control 
Board for RP3 (it may be under the KDSP2 or KAF2 if you have those options).
If you see a small board with resistors on it in the RP3 location, you 
have the thermistor mod installed.


Especially since you have the K2/100, if either of those mods are 
missing, I suggest you install them.  In addition, if your K2 is below 
SN 3000, you may want to consider doing the entire set of A to B upgrade 
mods (I recommend it).


Once you have checked those mods, go on with your calibration and 
alignment process.
For the K2 Dial Calibration and filter alignment, I suggest you use 
Spectrogram or another audio spectrum analyzer for the best results.  
See my webpage www.w3fpr.com article on K2 Dial Calibration.


OK, I have given you more information at one time than you may have 
wanted.  However, it is all related to dial calibration and drift 
(again, two different things).  Work through it one step at a time, and 
if you have questions as you go along, please ask.


73,
Don W3FPR



On 7/11/2015 1:48 PM, Tom Field wrote:

I've been using my K2/100 for a couple of years, and have been very
satisfied. I have noted some drift in the freq, so decided to go through a
complete realignment process.

On Page 65 of the manual it describes a measurement of the BFO range as
being 4-6 kHz. I measure 3.52 kHz. Question one, is this sufficiently out
to be of concern? and question 2, what are the next steps to correct any
problem?




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Re: [Elecraft] Remote KAT500

2015-07-11 Thread Jim Brown

On Sat,7/11/2015 2:41 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
I'd like to run it in MAN mode as I do now.  If I start in AUTO and 
step through all the band segments, will it learn the settings, and 
just recall them as soon as it senses RF?


Yes, as long as it remains in MAN mode.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Odd freq shift in diversity mode after VFO upgrade

2015-07-11 Thread Wayne Burdick
Rick,

If you have a combination of 5- and 8-pole filters in the main and/or sub 
receivers, it's the new firmware isn't adjusting for the difference between the 
two when in diversity mode with the new synths. I'll look into that, and if 
it's a firmware issue, I'll get it fixed ASAP. 

What filters do you have installed? You can use K3 Utility's crystal 
configuration screen to check this without opening up the radio.

73,
Wayne
N6KR



On Jul 11, 2015, at 10:56 AM, rick.ag...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all
 
 I have a very odd thing happening in diversity mode after installing the new
 VFO's.  I have a K3 with dual receivers and new VFOs using a dipole and loop
 antenna when in diversity.  I also have a P3.  I am on current 5.29 firmware
 and have successfully gone through all required calibration steps after
 upgrading the VFO.   
 
 Scenario follows ... 
 
 I am listening to WWV 10 MHz in USB mode.
 
 When I am in Split, not Diversity, WWV zero beats at exactly 10.000 MHz. 
 The P3 green band denoting the K3's passband is nicely lined up with the
 upper sideband of WWV.
 
 When I am in Diversity mode, however, WWV zero beats at exactly 9.9985 MHz. 
 On the P3 I clearly see the WWV signal at 10.000 MHz while the green band
 denoting the K3's frequency is just as clearly 1.5 kHz lower.
 
 I can't figure out what is causing this -1.5 kHz shift!
 
 I have had my K3 for some time so I feel I am reasonably competent with it
 :) but this has me stumped.
 
 I have asked K3 Support about this but I thought someone out there might
 have seen and dealt this this already.
 
 73 
 Rick AG6AY
 K3 5706
 P3 1835
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Alignment

2015-07-11 Thread Matt Maguire
It is a bit on the low side, but may still be ok. Where the limited range could 
become a problem is in the filter alignment stage. You could try continuing and 
see how it goes; if the restricted range prevents you from aligning the filters 
properly, then some attention to the BFO circuitry may be required.

73, Matt VK2RQ




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I've been using my K2/100 for a couple of years, and have been very
satisfied. I have noted some drift in the freq, so decided to go through a
complete realignment process.

On Page 65 of the manual it describes a measurement of the BFO range as
being 4-6 kHz. I measure 3.52 kHz. Question one, is this sufficiently out
to be of concern? and question 2, what are the next steps to correct any
problem?

Tom
KN6DR
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