Re: [Elecraft] K3-- Not turning off

2017-08-14 Thread Nr4c
Make sure you only have ONE PTT operating. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Aug 14, 2017, at 5:07 PM, Gene O  wrote:
> 
> Recently rearranged the operating position in my shack.  Now when operating 
> JT65 or F8 I can activate transmit button but it "motorboats" when I try to 
> turn it off.  I need to hit the XMIT button to turn it off.  I must have a 
> cable in the wrong position.  Can anyone point me in the right direction? 
> Thanks.
> Gene, W2BXR
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Re: [Elecraft] RX antenna protection

2017-08-14 Thread Drew AF2Z
Same situation here: small space and would like to try some low noise 
receive antennas. I recently bought an Array Solutions AS-RXFEP rf 
limiter to use on the RX Ant port of my K3. Haven't tried it yet but 
looks like it will do the job.



73,
Drew
AF2Z



On 08/14/17 21:48, W1PEF wrote:

I am considering a Rx antenna but my property is small and concerned about 
strong signals over powering the receiver. Does the K3S have built-in 
protection?
Does anyone use a loop receive antenna or BOG antenna ... would like some 
recommendations from actual users of receive antennas.
Have the complete K-Line and would like to improve my ability to hear.
Thanks for any advice...
Paul
W1PEF





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Re: [Elecraft] Remote computer won't communicate with K3 after re-installing Windows 10

2017-08-14 Thread john
Why doesn't he use the MicroHam device with the Elecraft transceiver?  It
works well for me.

John KK9A

Jim Reisert AD1C wrote: 
Mon Aug 14 12:27:20 EDT 2017

I need some help from the reflector.  First of all, I am NOT a K3
owner.  I am helping a friend remotely who is 2000 miles away.

His computer was running Windows 10 and was previously working with
the K3, both with the K3 Utility as well as DX4WIN.  I had to rebuild
the computer from scratch after a number of software problems
developed.  His microHAM device with several virtual COM ports is
working fine (it's interfaced to a Ten-Tec Orion).  It's only the K3
that we're having problems with.

I have been referring to this page:

http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm

First of all, regarding this statement, "Elecraft offers the KUSB
serial-to-USB cable for USB only computers etc.   Our cable was
originally provided using a Prolific chip set but since approximately
July of 2010 we have been shipping KUSB cables which use the FTDI chip
set."

How do I determine which chipset he has?  Other than the virtual COM
ports for the microHAM device, I see two other ports:

  One that says simply, "USB Com Port 3"

  Another port mentions a Silicon Labs driver, and it shows up on COM10.

There is no overlap of any COM port numbers.

I have tried both DX4WIN and the K3 utility with both COM ports (3 and
10).  While there are no "unknown port" errors, neither program can
communicate with the K3 on either port.  So something is missing and I
do not know what that is.

Again, I am trying to do this remotely, so it's hard for me to pull
cables, etc. to try to figure out what's going on.

Can someone please suggest a course of action for me to try to debug
this problem?  Mainly, I don't know which of the two COM devices above
*may* be for the K3, and whether the correct driver is installed.

Thanks & 73 - Jim AD1C

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[Elecraft] RX antenna protection

2017-08-14 Thread W1PEF
I am considering a Rx antenna but my property is small and concerned about 
strong signals over powering the receiver. Does the K3S have built-in 
protection?
Does anyone use a loop receive antenna or BOG antenna ... would like some 
recommendations from actual users of receive antennas.
Have the complete K-Line and would like to improve my ability to hear. 
Thanks for any advice...
Paul
W1PEF



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[Elecraft] Remote Rig and P3?

2017-08-14 Thread Jim Miller
Assuming I figure out how to transport the video (vga capture, webcam, etc)
how does one connect a RemoteRig to a K3 via the serial port and still have
a K3/P3 functioning connection?

Has anyone done this?

Thanks

jim ab3cv
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[Elecraft] Help needed at Huntsville Trade show

2017-08-14 Thread Madelyn Gomez
Hello Elecraft supporters.

We are doing the Huntsville Hamfest this weekend (Aug 18, 19 and 20) in
Huntsville, Alabama.  We find ourselves in need of a few good volunteers.

 We could use help setting up on Friday.  We could also use some technical
support in the booth on Saturday and Sunday, any time that you have
available.

If you would like to volunteer please email me directly (
made...@elecraft.com) for the particulars.

Thank you,

Madelyn Gomez
Elecraft Sales
125 Westridge Drive, Watsonville, CA.
831-763-4211
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[Elecraft] K3-- Not turning off

2017-08-14 Thread Gene O
Recently rearranged the operating position in my shack.  Now when 
operating JT65 or F8 I can activate transmit button but it "motorboats" 
when I try to turn it off.  I need to hit the XMIT button to turn it 
off.  I must have a cable in the wrong position.  Can anyone point me in 
the right direction? Thanks.

Gene, W2BXR
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Re: [Elecraft] K3s and RemoteRig

2017-08-14 Thread Rick Tavan
I don't think you're missing anything, Fred. You're describing what you do
at the control site whereas much of the thread has concerned the radio
site. There are differences that I alluded to in my long post but did not
detail.

At my control site I use an SO2R box to route mic, key, phones, and PTT
lines either to the local K3 or to the Control RRC, which looks to the SO2R
box like another radio. This eliminates cable swapping on the Control side.

(I also use an SO2R box at the radio site for real SO2R when I'm there. I
omitted that in my long post for simplicity. And, finally, my control site
switching makes it theoretically possible to conduct SO2Q operation with
active radios at two different QTHs! That isn't legal for any contest I
know of but would sure be a lot of fun. I intend to try it when I free up
some desk space at my control QTH!)

73,

/Rick N6XI

On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 11:40 AM, Fred Jensen  wrote:

> Now you've gone and confused me again. [:-) My control radio is a K3 [old,
> S/N 642].  I have a9PDT data switch that switches the K3 serial RS-232 CAT
> port from the RemoteRig [for remote operations] to my local computer [when
> running from home].  The K3 requires that I connect the mic and headphones
> to the RRC box for remote and to the K3 for local operation, which is
> mildly annoying.
>
> The K3s and K3/0 [mini] provide an integrated USB connection, and Elecraft
> provides a nifty one-cable-to-three-cables mini-octopus that neatly
> connects all of these, achieving exactly the same functionwith the
> RemoteRig that I get, but with more appealing cables, fewer of them than I
> have, and you don't have to move mic and phones.  Helped a new remote user
> set up his K3/0-RemoteRig a couple of weeks ago.  Worked fine.  What am I
> missing?
>
> 73,
>
> Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
> Sparks NV USA
> Washoe County DM09dn
>
> On 8/14/2017 3:45 AM, Jim Rhodes wrote:
>
>> Rick and Skip, you forget that the k3s has a direct UPS connection and
>> internal sound card that users often prefer to use as there is then less
>> cabling involved. This is not possible with remoterig as far as I know.
>> Wish it were.
>>
>> Jim Rhodes
>> K0XU
>>
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3s and RemoteRig

2017-08-14 Thread Jim Miller
All good until you try to use the P3 locally. Then cabling turns into
spaghetti again. We'll not exactly spaghetti but less orderly.

Spoiled by local K3S/P3. ;-)

jim ab3cv

On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Fred Jensen  wrote:

> Yes, exactly. Elecraft provides [for a small charge] a cable adapter that
> neatly connects the RemoteRig to the K3s or K3/0 via the USB port.  Your
> micand headphones go into the K3s or K3/0 giving you all the options of
> front/back panel, bias on/off from the menu, etc.To operate locally from
> the control site, just pull the USB connector from the RemoteRig box.
>
> With a K3 as control, as I have, the RemoteRig connects to the K3 RS-232
> CAT port, and when operating remote, the mic and phones go to the RRC box.
> For local operation on my HOA Stealth ant, I have to disconnect the CAT
> port and move the mic and phones to the K3.  The K3 internal keyer only
> works locally.
>
> So, not *all* the cablingand plugging/unplugging goes away with a K3s or
> K3/0, but much of it does, what is left is fairly esthetic [if you're into
> artful cables], and the functions in the K3s or K3/0 all work normally,
> remote or local.  Almost enough to prompt me to upgrade to a K3s.
>
> 73,
>
> Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
> Sparks NV USA
> Washoe County DM09dn
>
> On 8/14/2017 8:19 AM, Jim Miller wrote:
>
>> Thanks for all info so far. I *do* enjoy the reduced cabling resulting
>> from the upgrade from K3 to K3S. Looks like that goes away with RemoteRig.
>>
>> I'll keep looking...
>>
>> 73
>>
>> jim ab3cv
>>
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3s and RemoteRig

2017-08-14 Thread Rick Tavan
Teamviewer and similar are remote desktop tools that are indeed useful for
controlling automation when the user interface application can not be run
at the control site. However, like Fred says, these tools are awkward.  I
try to minimize their use. There are two mitigating techniques:

   1. My favorite is control applications that can run as a client/server
   pair. In particular, KPA500 Remote, KAT500 Remote, and PstRotatorAz all
   have excellent client/server characteristics. When you do it this way, you
   have full freedom in moving, sizing, and configuring the appearance of
   automation control application windows at the control site. It does,
   however, require a computer at the remote radio site.
   2. If a control application doesn't support client/server operation, it
   may still be usable at the control site through the use of remote serial
   ports. These are hardware boxes (or naked boards!) installed at the radio
   site that connect to the controlled device through a serial port or USB
   equivalent and to the Internet. At the control site, software makes the
   device appear as a local, virtual serial port. This technique can also be
   used with the above-mentioned apps that do support c/s even if you don't
   have a server computer at the radio site. I don't use this technique (yet)
   but have seen it work in others' remote control systems.

73,

/Rick N6XI

On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 9:58 PM, Fred Jensen  wrote:

>
>
> Teamviewer [or similar] can be used to control your station automation,
> including the control program for the KPA500 or [I presume] the KPA1500.
> Getting the P3 to work is another issue with no simple answer. The P3 takes
> input from the remote K3's 8 MHz first IF.  The P3 at the remote is also
> connected to the remote K3 which makes the various modes work and track the
> radio.I'm sure many technological suggestions will be forthcoming here, but
> believe me, it is non-trivial.
>
> Teamviewer latency is annoyingand makes dragging windows around the screen
> or resizing them very frustrating. Controlling rotators works OK but you
> need to cultivate a high degree of patience with the mouse.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Remote computer won't communicate with K3 after re-installing Windows 10

2017-08-14 Thread Fred Jensen
Jim, just disconnect and reconnect each USB cable while watching the COM 
ports in Device Mangler. You'll see the port disappear and then reappear.


FWIW:  I never had any problems with Prolific USB-Serial chipsets until 
Win10 graciously installed itself in the middle of the night without 
asking.  Turns out, there are several generations of Prolific chipsets, 
and there are no Win10 drivers for a couple of the oldest ones.  I found 
an adapter with one of the more recent chipsets and it works fine.


73,

Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
Sparks NV USA
Washoe County DM09dn

On 8/14/2017 10:27 AM, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:

On my Win 10 machine I can tell by going to Device Manager, Ports, selecting
the specific port in question, then right clicking and going to Properties.
There, on all of my USB connections, it says "Manufacturer: FTDI".Hope
that will help.

Thanks, Bill, but I don't know which interface cable he has - it could
be Prolific or FTDI,  depending on how old it is.  Because there are
two COM ports not associated with the microHAM device (the generic
"USB" and the one that has a Silicon Labs driver), I guess I have to
assume that the generic USB COM port is the one that the K3 needs.
I'll see what type of device it is, and if I can find the right driver
for it.

- Jim



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Re: [Elecraft] K3s and RemoteRig

2017-08-14 Thread Fred Jensen
Yes, exactly. Elecraft provides [for a small charge] a cable adapter 
that neatly connects the RemoteRig to the K3s or K3/0 via the USB port.  
Your micand headphones go into the K3s or K3/0 giving you all the 
options of front/back panel, bias on/off from the menu, etc.To operate 
locally from the control site, just pull the USB connector from the 
RemoteRig box.


With a K3 as control, as I have, the RemoteRig connects to the K3 RS-232 
CAT port, and when operating remote, the mic and phones go to the RRC 
box. For local operation on my HOA Stealth ant, I have to disconnect the 
CAT port and move the mic and phones to the K3.  The K3 internal keyer 
only works locally.


So, not *all* the cablingand plugging/unplugging goes away with a K3s or 
K3/0, but much of it does, what is left is fairly esthetic [if you're 
into artful cables], and the functions in the K3s or K3/0 all work 
normally, remote or local.  Almost enough to prompt me to upgrade to a K3s.


73,

Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
Sparks NV USA
Washoe County DM09dn

On 8/14/2017 8:19 AM, Jim Miller wrote:
Thanks for all info so far. I *do* enjoy the reduced cabling resulting 
from the upgrade from K3 to K3S. Looks like that goes away with 
RemoteRig.


I'll keep looking...

73

jim ab3cv



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Re: [Elecraft] K3s and RemoteRig

2017-08-14 Thread Fred Jensen
Now you've gone and confused me again. [:-) My control radio is a K3 
[old, S/N 642].  I have a9PDT data switch that switches the K3 serial 
RS-232 CAT port from the RemoteRig [for remote operations] to my local 
computer [when running from home].  The K3 requires that I connect the 
mic and headphones to the RRC box for remote and to the K3 for local 
operation, which is mildly annoying.


The K3s and K3/0 [mini] provide an integrated USB connection, and 
Elecraft provides a nifty one-cable-to-three-cables mini-octopus that 
neatly connects all of these, achieving exactly the same functionwith 
the RemoteRig that I get, but with more appealing cables, fewer of them 
than I have, and you don't have to move mic and phones.  Helped a new 
remote user set up his K3/0-RemoteRig a couple of weeks ago.  Worked 
fine.  What am I missing?


73,

Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
Sparks NV USA
Washoe County DM09dn

On 8/14/2017 3:45 AM, Jim Rhodes wrote:
Rick and Skip, you forget that the k3s has a direct UPS connection and 
internal sound card that users often prefer to use as there is then 
less cabling involved. This is not possible with remoterig as far as I 
know. Wish it were.


Jim Rhodes
K0XU



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[Elecraft] OT: (Inductively coupled, balanced tuner) Need info offline

2017-08-14 Thread Richard Fjeld
I have acquired what once was an old, heavy duty, inductively coupled balanced 
tuner that needs to be completely rebuilt. It looks like it had never been 
incased, either. The parts can handle some power. I only have 100 watts, but I 
would like to see how the individual coils perform compared to my Johnson 
Matchbox with the Anneke Mod.

The 8 plug-in coil units are commercially made, and are stenciled 2 to 18 MC. 
They are about 11 CM (4.25 in) in diameter and about 14 CM (5.5 in) long.  They 
each have 5 banana plugs about 3.25 CM (1.25 in) apart OC.

FYI- Two of the variable capacitors have 1 CM spacing between the plates, and 
are about 9 CM (3.5 inches) in diameter, and are about 34 CM (13.5 in) long. 
There are two other var caps that are smaller, but very nice.

Here is the problem:
The plug-in coil units have banana plugs already described. One became 
unscrewed on one unit and is missing.   The base unit they plug into is 
stenciled ‘TVL BASE’ and it is missing the center socket that the banana plugs 
mate with.

I can possibly work around this using an alligator clip, but I would like to 
get replacement parts if possible. So far, my searches have resulted in nothing 
even close.

If anyone can help, please contact me off-line. Some of you have been wonderful 
in the past.

Thanks for tolerating this post,
Rich, n0ce


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 160, Issue 18 - More on the TTFD

2017-08-14 Thread Fred Jensen
True.  For any given total length, the loss to the termination increases 
as the TX frequency goes down, and the loss vs freq curve rises rapidly 
near the lower end.  The solution of course is to make the total length 
of the FD, end-to-end long enough that the termination loss at the 
chosen TX freq(s) is close to 3 dB.  This works well for the military 
and government installations who often have a small number of assigned 
frequencies, and the ubiquitous "B&W Over Armories" version capitalizes 
on this.  ALE complicates that strategy somewhat of course.


As has been noted before, antenna choice is a basket full of trade-offs 
and not every application for an antenna is to make Honor Roll in a 
week.  Paraphrasing Rowdy, my #1 while in the military, "We sometimes 
find ourselves trying to pick fly poop out of the pepper."  In that 
vein, I suspect that 95%+ of the time, anything I can work with 10 W on 
20 m from my K2 I can also work with 5 W on 20 m from the same K2.  Of 
course, 87.49% of people make up their own statistics too. [:-)


73,

Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
Sparks NV USA
Washoe County DM09dn

On 8/14/2017 8:54 AM, Joel Hallas wrote:

The one point I disagree with is the
statement that the terminating resistor dissipates half the power. The power
dissipated is a function of frequency and, while it is not far from 3 dB at
the high end of the frequency range, it absorbs much more at the low end --
about 90%! Not only is that 10 dB less signal on transmit, but the resistor
power rating needs to be 90% of the transmit output, if high duty-cycle
modes are used. Note that it is not as big a problem on receive, since the
receive S/N on the lower bands is sufficiently atmospheric noise limited,
that the receive S/N is not greatly impacted, even though the s-meter will
read lower by 10 dB.



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Re: [Elecraft] Remote computer won't communicate with K3 after re-installing Windows 10

2017-08-14 Thread Jim Brown

On 8/14/2017 10:27 AM, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:

Thanks, Bill, but I don't know which interface cable he has - it could
be Prolific or FTDI,  depending on how old it is.


This vendor, a ham in San Jose, sells a wide range of genuine FTDI USB 
adapter cables, including this one that's USB to DB9.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/FTDI-USB-2-0-Converter-Adapter-Cable-to-RS-232-9-Pin-RS232-Serial-Port-STM-DB-9M-/151566371748?hash=item234a0f4ba4:g:dYUAAOSwbApZc97o

I bought a couple of cables from him and was pleased with what I got.

73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] Remote computer won't communicate with K3 after re-installing Windows 10

2017-08-14 Thread Clay Autery
My K3s is using an FTDI driver right this minute for BOTH Win4K3Suite
and/or Elecraft K3s Config software...  COM7 by the way... not that that
really matters.

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On 8/14/2017 12:27 PM, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:
>> On my Win 10 machine I can tell by going to Device Manager, Ports, selecting
>> the specific port in question, then right clicking and going to Properties.
>> There, on all of my USB connections, it says "Manufacturer: FTDI".Hope
>> that will help.
> Thanks, Bill, but I don't know which interface cable he has - it could
> be Prolific or FTDI,  depending on how old it is.  Because there are
> two COM ports not associated with the microHAM device (the generic
> "USB" and the one that has a Silicon Labs driver), I guess I have to
> assume that the generic USB COM port is the one that the K3 needs.
> I'll see what type of device it is, and if I can find the right driver
> for it.
>
> - Jim
>

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Re: [Elecraft] Remote computer won't communicate with K3 after re-installing Windows 10

2017-08-14 Thread Clay Autery
There's your issue Either he has a counterfeit FTDI chip/unit, OR
simply haven't gotten the FTDI drivers all updated.

I JUST used an older Elecraft supplied FTDI cable the other day to
update an Elmer's KPA500 or KAT500, I forget which and it took some
doing to finally get the latest FTDI drivers on ALL the ports used for
K3s, XG3, KAT500, KPA500, P3, etc...

Latest driver is dated:  09/28/2016 v.2.12.24.0 according to my
machine...  Maybe an even newer one for Win10.

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On 8/14/2017 12:15 PM, Bill Rogers W3UL wrote:
> Jim
>
> On my Win 10 machine I can tell by going to *Device Manager*,* Ports*,
> selecting the specific port in question, then right clicking and going to
> *Properties*.  There, on all of my USB connections, it says "*Manufacturer:
> FTDI*".Hope that will help.
>
> 73, Bill W3UL
>
> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 12:27 PM, Jim Reisert AD1C 
> wrote:
>
>> I need some help from the reflector.  First of all, I am NOT a K3
>> owner.  I am helping a friend remotely who is 2000 miles away.
>>
>> His computer was running Windows 10 and was previously working with
>> the K3, both with the K3 Utility as well as DX4WIN.  I had to rebuild
>> the computer from scratch after a number of software problems
>> developed.  His microHAM device with several virtual COM ports is
>> working fine (it's interfaced to a Ten-Tec Orion).  It's only the K3
>> that we're having problems with.
>>
>> I have been referring to this page:
>>
>> http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm
>>
>> First of all, regarding this statement, "Elecraft offers the KUSB
>> serial-to-USB cable for USB only computers etc.   Our cable was
>> originally provided using a Prolific chip set but since approximately
>> July of 2010 we have been shipping KUSB cables which use the FTDI chip
>> set."
>>
>> How do I determine which chipset he has?  Other than the virtual COM
>> ports for the microHAM device, I see two other ports:
>>
>>   One that says simply, "USB Com Port 3"
>>
>>   Another port mentions a Silicon Labs driver, and it shows up on COM10.
>>
>> There is no overlap of any COM port numbers.
>>
>> I have tried both DX4WIN and the K3 utility with both COM ports (3 and
>> 10).  While there are no "unknown port" errors, neither program can
>> communicate with the K3 on either port.  So something is missing and I
>> do not know what that is.
>>
>> Again, I am trying to do this remotely, so it's hard for me to pull
>> cables, etc. to try to figure out what's going on.
>>
>> Can someone please suggest a course of action for me to try to debug
>> this problem?  Mainly, I don't know which of the two COM devices above
>> *may* be for the K3, and whether the correct driver is installed.
>>
>> Thanks & 73 - Jim AD1C
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] Remote computer won't communicate with K3 after re-installing Windows 10

2017-08-14 Thread Jim Reisert AD1C
> On my Win 10 machine I can tell by going to Device Manager, Ports, selecting
> the specific port in question, then right clicking and going to Properties.
> There, on all of my USB connections, it says "Manufacturer: FTDI".Hope
> that will help.

Thanks, Bill, but I don't know which interface cable he has - it could
be Prolific or FTDI,  depending on how old it is.  Because there are
two COM ports not associated with the microHAM device (the generic
"USB" and the one that has a Silicon Labs driver), I guess I have to
assume that the generic USB COM port is the one that the K3 needs.
I'll see what type of device it is, and if I can find the right driver
for it.

- Jim

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Re: [Elecraft] Remote computer won't communicate with K3 after re-installing Windows 10

2017-08-14 Thread Bill Rogers W3UL
Jim

On my Win 10 machine I can tell by going to *Device Manager*,* Ports*,
selecting the specific port in question, then right clicking and going to
*Properties*.  There, on all of my USB connections, it says "*Manufacturer:
FTDI*".Hope that will help.

73, Bill W3UL

On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 12:27 PM, Jim Reisert AD1C 
wrote:

> I need some help from the reflector.  First of all, I am NOT a K3
> owner.  I am helping a friend remotely who is 2000 miles away.
>
> His computer was running Windows 10 and was previously working with
> the K3, both with the K3 Utility as well as DX4WIN.  I had to rebuild
> the computer from scratch after a number of software problems
> developed.  His microHAM device with several virtual COM ports is
> working fine (it's interfaced to a Ten-Tec Orion).  It's only the K3
> that we're having problems with.
>
> I have been referring to this page:
>
> http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm
>
> First of all, regarding this statement, "Elecraft offers the KUSB
> serial-to-USB cable for USB only computers etc.   Our cable was
> originally provided using a Prolific chip set but since approximately
> July of 2010 we have been shipping KUSB cables which use the FTDI chip
> set."
>
> How do I determine which chipset he has?  Other than the virtual COM
> ports for the microHAM device, I see two other ports:
>
>   One that says simply, "USB Com Port 3"
>
>   Another port mentions a Silicon Labs driver, and it shows up on COM10.
>
> There is no overlap of any COM port numbers.
>
> I have tried both DX4WIN and the K3 utility with both COM ports (3 and
> 10).  While there are no "unknown port" errors, neither program can
> communicate with the K3 on either port.  So something is missing and I
> do not know what that is.
>
> Again, I am trying to do this remotely, so it's hard for me to pull
> cables, etc. to try to figure out what's going on.
>
> Can someone please suggest a course of action for me to try to debug
> this problem?  Mainly, I don't know which of the two COM devices above
> *may* be for the K3, and whether the correct driver is installed.
>
> Thanks & 73 - Jim AD1C
>
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[Elecraft] Remote computer won't communicate with K3 after re-installing Windows 10

2017-08-14 Thread Jim Reisert AD1C
I need some help from the reflector.  First of all, I am NOT a K3
owner.  I am helping a friend remotely who is 2000 miles away.

His computer was running Windows 10 and was previously working with
the K3, both with the K3 Utility as well as DX4WIN.  I had to rebuild
the computer from scratch after a number of software problems
developed.  His microHAM device with several virtual COM ports is
working fine (it's interfaced to a Ten-Tec Orion).  It's only the K3
that we're having problems with.

I have been referring to this page:

http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm

First of all, regarding this statement, "Elecraft offers the KUSB
serial-to-USB cable for USB only computers etc.   Our cable was
originally provided using a Prolific chip set but since approximately
July of 2010 we have been shipping KUSB cables which use the FTDI chip
set."

How do I determine which chipset he has?  Other than the virtual COM
ports for the microHAM device, I see two other ports:

  One that says simply, "USB Com Port 3"

  Another port mentions a Silicon Labs driver, and it shows up on COM10.

There is no overlap of any COM port numbers.

I have tried both DX4WIN and the K3 utility with both COM ports (3 and
10).  While there are no "unknown port" errors, neither program can
communicate with the K3 on either port.  So something is missing and I
do not know what that is.

Again, I am trying to do this remotely, so it's hard for me to pull
cables, etc. to try to figure out what's going on.

Can someone please suggest a course of action for me to try to debug
this problem?  Mainly, I don't know which of the two COM devices above
*may* be for the K3, and whether the correct driver is installed.

Thanks & 73 - Jim AD1C

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[Elecraft] KX1 For Sale

2017-08-14 Thread edward kacura via Elecraft
GM Guys, I have a KX1 for sale, s/n 2698.
 It's in excellent condition, has the ATU installed, also has the paddles.
 Don Wilhelm, W3FPR went thru it a few months ago and gave it a clean bill of 
health ! 
 While it was there, he built and installed for me the K6XX CW indicator kit 
which allows you to zero beat the station with the lamp installed on the KX1.
 It comes with the manual of course !
 I already have another KX1, and went and broke down and bought a K1, my third 
! Can't seem to stay away from the K1lol !
 So this one is really surplus to my needs, plus I need to put the money back 
in the bank I used to buy the K1lol !!
 Price is $450.00 firm, I'll pay shipping and insurance. I can do PayPal or M.O.
 Contact me at ekac...@yahoo.com
Pictures on request.
 72/73 de Ed
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[Elecraft] Wanted - XG50

2017-08-14 Thread Bodie Goodall
Does anyone UK have a used one for sale? Seems a bit of a waste to buy 
one new for a single use!

Thanks all ;)

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 160, Issue 18 - More on the TTFD

2017-08-14 Thread Joel Hallas
I agree with most of the statements about the TTFD, or B&W FD, if you
prefer. While not as efficient as some, it meets a number of particular
needs, especially that it has a similar directional pattern over a 5:1
frequency range -- especially useful for point-to-point links using multiple
HF frequencies, either manually or by ALE. 

I did an assessment of this antenna and wrote a QST article on it that I
recommend for those interested. The one point I disagree with is the
statement that the terminating resistor dissipates half the power. The power
dissipated is a function of frequency and, while it is not far from 3 dB at
the high end of the frequency range, it absorbs much more at the low end --
about 90%! Not only is that 10 dB less signal on transmit, but the resistor
power rating needs to be 90% of the transmit output, if high duty-cycle
modes are used. Note that it is not as big a problem on receive, since the
receive S/N on the lower bands is sufficiently atmospheric noise limited,
that the receive S/N is not greatly impacted, even though the s-meter will
read lower by 10 dB. 

My article is available to ARRL members on the QST print archive on the ARRL
website. 

Sep 2010 - QST (Pg. 51)
A Close Look at the Terminated Folded Dipole Antenna

Regards, Joel Hallas, W1ZR
Westport, CT




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Re: [Elecraft] K3s and RemoteRig

2017-08-14 Thread Jim Miller
Thanks for all info so far. I *do* enjoy the reduced cabling resulting from
the upgrade from K3 to K3S. Looks like that goes away with RemoteRig.

I'll keep looking...

73

jim ab3cv

On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 6:45 AM, Jim Rhodes  wrote:

> Rick and Skip, you forget that the k3s has a direct UPS connection and
> internal sound card that users often prefer to use as there is then less
> cabling involved. This is not possible with remoterig as far as I know.
> Wish it were.
>
> Jim Rhodes
> K0XU
>
> On Aug 13, 2017 23:59, "Fred Jensen"  wrote:
>
> > There are two questions on the list, here's what I know to both:
> >
> > Re quoted message below:  Yes.  RemoteRig will install 4 "virtual" COM
> > ports.  View them in the Device Manager under PORTS.  If you're
> fortunate,
> > they will be labeled RRC-1258 COM0, -COM1, -COM2, and -COM Extra.  See
> > below if you're not fortunate. Following each one, in [ ], will be
> another
> > COM port. Find the RRC-1258 COM1 port and use the [COMx] as the port in
> > your logger as the K3 port.  It is really talking to the remote radio.
> > It's more or less transparent.
> >
> > For the less fortunate: Sometimes some flavors of Win10 show the ports in
> > the Device Mangler, however they will be missing the RRC-1258 label.
> Watch
> > as you turn on the RRC, they always seem to come up in the order listed
> > above, label or not.
> >
> > Re your other message: Yes, it is essentially like "being there," or more
> > appropriately, it is just as if your K3/mini is making the RF.  There is
> > just barely noticeable latency if you spin the dial rapidly, and there
> will
> > be some I'net QRN [quick pops, and snaps], and occasionally dropouts,
> > depending on your connection and ISP.  BW requirements are fairly low,
> > maybe 150-200 KBps, from watching the router here[50 MBps ATT Uverse]
> here.
> >
> > Teamviewer [or similar] can be used to control your station automation,
> > including the control program for the KPA500 or [I presume] the KPA1500.
> > Getting the P3 to work is another issue with no simple answer. The P3
> takes
> > input from the remote K3's 8 MHz first IF.  The P3 at the remote is also
> > connected to the remote K3 which makes the various modes work and track
> the
> > radio.I'm sure many technological suggestions will be forthcoming here,
> but
> > believe me, it is non-trivial.
> >
> > Teamviewer latency is annoyingand makes dragging windows around the
> screen
> > or resizing them very frustrating. Controlling rotators works OK but you
> > need to cultivate a high degree of patience with the mouse.
> >
> > If you want to switch the remote radio to local when you're there, just
> > disconnect the RRC-1258.  A lot of the details depend on how you're
> keying
> > and connecting the mic/headphones/spkrs.  Running remote, keying the mini
> > [from the internal keyer or the key jack] keys the remote. The mic/line
> in
> > function just as if they were connected AT the remote.
> >
> > Hope this helps
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
> > Sparks NV USA
> > Washoe County DM09dn
> >
> > On 8/13/2017 5:34 PM, Jim Miller wrote:
> >
> >> Another K3/0-mini RR question:
> >>
> >> If I have a laptop at the control point running my logging program or
> >> N1MM+
> >> for contesting how does it communicate with K3/0-mini if the mini is
> >> connected to the RR?
> >>
> >> thanks
> >>
> >> jim ab3cv
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Jim Miller  wrote:
> >>
> >> I have a K3s, P3 (and someday a KPA1500) and I'm considering a RemoteRig
> >>> and K3/Mini for remote operation.
> >>>
> >>> I realize the P3 access and KPA1500 if any will need to come from some
> >>> other source like Teamviewer or VNC. I need that for controlling the
> >>> rotator and power switching anyway.
> >>>
> >>> I'm told that RR/K3-mini performance is like "being there."
> >>>
> >>> One issue I have is the amount of disconnecting and reconnecting of
> >>> cables
> >>> when switching from local operation of the K3s to setting up for remote
> >>> operation.
> >>>
> >>> Nothing I've seen in the documentation leads me to believe that this
> >>> reconfiguration of cabling for the K3s is any simpler that what is
> needed
> >>> for the original K3.
> >>>
> >>> For those of you who have RR and a K3s: did I miss something? Does the
> >>> cleaned up wiring on the K3s via USB for normal local operation offer
> any
> >>> advantages when it comes to RR configuration?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>> jim ab3cv
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [Elecraft] line IN and OUT on new computer

2017-08-14 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


iMic is supported by the standard "USB Audio Device" driver on Windows,
iOS and LINUX.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 8/14/2017 9:22 AM, Ross Primrose wrote:
I've had great luck with the iMic on windows 7 & 8.1, never tired 10. 
Also works great with every version of Linux I've tried.


73, Ross N4RP

On 8/13/2017 1:12 AM, wb6r...@mac.com wrote:
Griffin advertises PC compatibility but I've no experience with an 
iMic and a PC but I wouldn't hesitate to try it.


GL - Steve WB6RSE


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Re: [Elecraft] line IN and OUT on new computer

2017-08-14 Thread Ross Primrose
I've had great luck with the iMic on windows 7 & 8.1, never tired 10.  
Also works great with every version of Linux I've tried.


73, Ross N4RP

On 8/13/2017 1:12 AM, wb6r...@mac.com wrote:

Griffin advertises PC compatibility but I've no experience with an iMic and a 
PC but I wouldn't hesitate to try it.

GL - Steve WB6RSE


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[Elecraft] KPA 1500 and Pure Signal - a DDC/DUC SDR in the Elecraft pipeline?

2017-08-14 Thread Steve Ireland
G’day

I am sure I am not the only one who has noticed that the new KPA 1500 has a 
connector on its rear panel labelled ‘TX Sample’.  Reading the Elecraft FAQ on 
the KPA 1500, it says that this “provides a low level KPA 1500 TX RF signal for 
sampling use by transceivers that support closed-loop pre-distortion 
techniques, e.g. Pure Signal. This low-level signal is taken directly from the 
amplifier’s directional coupler.”

For those on this reflector who are not familiar with ‘Pure Signal’, it is the 
name given to “the theory and implementation of the clean transmission logic 
developed by the OpenHPSDR team and implemented in PowerSDR [softwar as used 
with the ANAN radios” (see SDR-Radio.com - 
http://sdr-radio.com/Version-3/Transmit/Pure-Signal). 

Using pre-distortion, Pure Signal means that transmit IM3 can be improved 
significantly – up to 20dB from memory.

Now Pure Signal is an SDR technique and many amateurs have been wondering when 
Elecraft is going to finally take a leap beyond the KX3 into digital down 
conversion/up conversion SDR or even the latest Direct Fourier Conversion SDR?  

Looks to me perhaps that the leap is not far off – unless Elecraft are seeing a 
big market for ANAN SDR owners buying the KPA 1500 (which, incidentally looks 
fabulous)?   ;-)

What say you, Wayne N6KR?

Vy 73

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Re: [Elecraft] K3s and RemoteRig

2017-08-14 Thread Jim Rhodes
Rick and Skip, you forget that the k3s has a direct UPS connection and
internal sound card that users often prefer to use as there is then less
cabling involved. This is not possible with remoterig as far as I know.
Wish it were.

Jim Rhodes
K0XU

On Aug 13, 2017 23:59, "Fred Jensen"  wrote:

> There are two questions on the list, here's what I know to both:
>
> Re quoted message below:  Yes.  RemoteRig will install 4 "virtual" COM
> ports.  View them in the Device Manager under PORTS.  If you're fortunate,
> they will be labeled RRC-1258 COM0, -COM1, -COM2, and -COM Extra.  See
> below if you're not fortunate. Following each one, in [ ], will be another
> COM port. Find the RRC-1258 COM1 port and use the [COMx] as the port in
> your logger as the K3 port.  It is really talking to the remote radio.
> It's more or less transparent.
>
> For the less fortunate: Sometimes some flavors of Win10 show the ports in
> the Device Mangler, however they will be missing the RRC-1258 label.  Watch
> as you turn on the RRC, they always seem to come up in the order listed
> above, label or not.
>
> Re your other message: Yes, it is essentially like "being there," or more
> appropriately, it is just as if your K3/mini is making the RF.  There is
> just barely noticeable latency if you spin the dial rapidly, and there will
> be some I'net QRN [quick pops, and snaps], and occasionally dropouts,
> depending on your connection and ISP.  BW requirements are fairly low,
> maybe 150-200 KBps, from watching the router here[50 MBps ATT Uverse] here.
>
> Teamviewer [or similar] can be used to control your station automation,
> including the control program for the KPA500 or [I presume] the KPA1500.
> Getting the P3 to work is another issue with no simple answer. The P3 takes
> input from the remote K3's 8 MHz first IF.  The P3 at the remote is also
> connected to the remote K3 which makes the various modes work and track the
> radio.I'm sure many technological suggestions will be forthcoming here, but
> believe me, it is non-trivial.
>
> Teamviewer latency is annoyingand makes dragging windows around the screen
> or resizing them very frustrating. Controlling rotators works OK but you
> need to cultivate a high degree of patience with the mouse.
>
> If you want to switch the remote radio to local when you're there, just
> disconnect the RRC-1258.  A lot of the details depend on how you're keying
> and connecting the mic/headphones/spkrs.  Running remote, keying the mini
> [from the internal keyer or the key jack] keys the remote. The mic/line in
> function just as if they were connected AT the remote.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> 73,
>
> Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
> Sparks NV USA
> Washoe County DM09dn
>
> On 8/13/2017 5:34 PM, Jim Miller wrote:
>
>> Another K3/0-mini RR question:
>>
>> If I have a laptop at the control point running my logging program or
>> N1MM+
>> for contesting how does it communicate with K3/0-mini if the mini is
>> connected to the RR?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> jim ab3cv
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Jim Miller  wrote:
>>
>> I have a K3s, P3 (and someday a KPA1500) and I'm considering a RemoteRig
>>> and K3/Mini for remote operation.
>>>
>>> I realize the P3 access and KPA1500 if any will need to come from some
>>> other source like Teamviewer or VNC. I need that for controlling the
>>> rotator and power switching anyway.
>>>
>>> I'm told that RR/K3-mini performance is like "being there."
>>>
>>> One issue I have is the amount of disconnecting and reconnecting of
>>> cables
>>> when switching from local operation of the K3s to setting up for remote
>>> operation.
>>>
>>> Nothing I've seen in the documentation leads me to believe that this
>>> reconfiguration of cabling for the K3s is any simpler that what is needed
>>> for the original K3.
>>>
>>> For those of you who have RR and a K3s: did I miss something? Does the
>>> cleaned up wiring on the K3s via USB for normal local operation offer any
>>> advantages when it comes to RR configuration?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> jim ab3cv
>>>
>>>
>>>
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