Re: [Elecraft] FS: KXPA100 with ATU

2020-06-11 Thread Dean L
My smartphone adjusted my reply.

It was supposed to say-


EBAY Charges a VIG that we HAMS with integrity don't need to pay.

No wonder good hams have a bad taste in their moth for PayPal.

Your Milage certainly will vary

Things sure are different.

Rant over
73 all
Dean


On Fri, Jun 12, 2020, 01:55 Dean L  wrote:

> That's awfully nice of you.
>
> When one of these buyers rips you off through EBAY, saying your 100% FB
> equipment is not "100% FB" you will change your mind.
> EBAY is for scoundrels, not Hams with integrity.
> Hence the "Vig" we Had don't pay!
>
> 73
> Dean K2WW
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2020, 22:52 Paul Gacek  wrote:
>
>> Hi Dean
>>
>> Fair question and at close to a thousand bucks, I want to give buyers the
>> protection that eBay and PayPal offer.
>>
>> Part of that is looking at my past transaction history and taking
>> whatever comfort (or not) from that.
>>
>> Paul Gacek
>>
>> > On Jun 11, 2020, at 7:41 PM, Dean L  wrote:
>> >
>> > Why would you pay Epay their "cut" when you have the entire elecraft
>> > audience at your findertips?
>> > 73
>> > Dean/K2WW
>> >
>> >> On Thu, Jun 11, 2020, 14:14 Paul Gacek via Elecraft <
>> >> elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I listed one of my pair on eBay if anyone is interested.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Elecraft-KXPA100-100w-amplifier-and-ATU-excellent-condition-Factory-build/203018788430?hash=item2f44dcde4e:g:f7kAAOSw9Dle4m6R
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Paul
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Re: [Elecraft] FS: KXPA100 with ATU

2020-06-11 Thread Dean L
That's awfully nice of you.

When one of these buyers rips you off through EBAY, saying your 100% FB
equipment is not "100% FB" you will change your mind.
EBAY is for scoundrels, not Hams with integrity.
Hence the "Vig" we Had don't pay!

73
Dean K2WW


On Thu, Jun 11, 2020, 22:52 Paul Gacek  wrote:

> Hi Dean
>
> Fair question and at close to a thousand bucks, I want to give buyers the
> protection that eBay and PayPal offer.
>
> Part of that is looking at my past transaction history and taking whatever
> comfort (or not) from that.
>
> Paul Gacek
>
> > On Jun 11, 2020, at 7:41 PM, Dean L  wrote:
> >
> > Why would you pay Epay their "cut" when you have the entire elecraft
> > audience at your findertips?
> > 73
> > Dean/K2WW
> >
> >> On Thu, Jun 11, 2020, 14:14 Paul Gacek via Elecraft <
> >> elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> I listed one of my pair on eBay if anyone is interested.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Elecraft-KXPA100-100w-amplifier-and-ATU-excellent-condition-Factory-build/203018788430?hash=item2f44dcde4e:g:f7kAAOSw9Dle4m6R
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Elecraft] Balanced Mic to Unbalanced Connection Follow Up Question

2020-06-11 Thread Tony

On 6/11/2020 10:16 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:

a special thanks to you for reporting back to the group your findings 
and results. 


Thanks for your input as well Bob. Lots of talented folks on the 
reflector who take the time to respond to questions. The least one can 
do is provide feedback.


Tony -K2MO


Tony;

Seems you have done an excellent job and things are working as you 
expected.   And a special thanks to you for reporting back to the 
group your findings and results.   I wish everyone did that. We'd all 
be informed.


73

Bob, K4TAX


On 6/11/2020 8:00 PM, Tony wrote:

All:

The K3S seems to work flawlessly with XLR cable connected to the rear 
panel mic input as per the groups recommendations. I have pins 1 and 
3 connected to the sleeve of the 1/8" plug and pin 2 to the tip. I'm 
using a dynamic mic so the bias is turned off. This setup works fine 
on the KX3 as well.


If anyone is interested, I have a brand new Heil XLR cable for the 
K3S that I won't be using.


Thanks,

Tony -K2MO


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK Timing

2020-06-11 Thread K9ZTV
Panadapters are helpful but not essential for CW traffic work. 

The procedure for the better part of a hundred years has been ...

(1)  The receiving station always goes to the frequency directed by the NCS or 
beyond if the directed frequency is busy.

(2)  Once the receiving station (not the sending station) has found a clear 
frequency, he repeatedly sends the sending station’s call sign until the 
sending station locates him.

(3)  Unless the above protocol is followed, neither station will find the other 
and will be two ships passing in the night.

(4)  While previous generations of traffic handlers did not have to contend 
with digital QRM, they did have to contend with CW QRM on bands many times more 
crowded than exist today, and with receivers many times less selective.  The 
above time-tested procedure shifts responsibility for finding a clear frequency 
away from the NCS (where it does not belong) to the the two stations most 
interested in finding one.

(5)  In a well-run CW traffic net, the NCS functions as a traffic director by 
making judicious use of Q-signals specific to traffic work (there aren’t that 
many) to insure net efficiency and accuracy.

(6)  National Traffic System nets are not social nets.  They clear their 
traffic and secure.

73,

Kent  K9ZTV
Missouri Section Net Manager


> On Jun 11, 2020, at 6:36 PM, Tom Doligalski via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> The P3 is quite useful to an NTS NCS. I just called the Carolinas Net (CN) 
> and was very pleased to see where I could send folks down 2 (while I had 
> folks up 2).  Things have got much more difficult with the digital modes!
> 
> Tom W4KX
> 
> Sent from my iPad 
> 
>> On Jun 11, 2020, at 5:07 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
>> 
>> I eavesdrop on the 80 m traffic nets occasionally. Impressive level of 
>> efficiency and skill among the ops. Who knew there were so many Q-codes :)
>> 
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 11, 2020, at 2:03 PM, Tom Doligalski  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Wayne!
>>> 
>>> I had faith that the excellent qsk in the K3 would carry over to the K4. 
>>> Thanks so much!
>>> 
>>> I can easily recognize other rigs in cw nets. 
>>> 
>>> 50 years of cw traffic!
>>> 
>>> Tom W4KX
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad 
>>> 
> On Jun 11, 2020, at 3:23 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
 
 Hi Tom,
 
 On the K4, with full QSK selected, you can hear between dots at 40 WPM.
 
 There's no need for a "QRQ" mode, as on the K3, because the K4 doesn't 
 have to update a synth between TX and RX.
 
 Wayne
 N6KR
 
 
> On Jun 11, 2020, at 11:51 AM, Tom Doligalski via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> I still do CW traffic handling, qsk is really important to me. That’s the 
> reason I plunked down m money for the K4. 
> 
> Tom W4KX
> 
> Sent from my iPad 
> 
>>> On Jun 11, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX  
>>> wrote:
>> 
>> Not being  a high speed CW op nor a contest CW op, I find that QSK is, 
>> well, just very nice.   I don't need to hear between the CW elements, 
>> nor even the letters, but more so in between the words.   Some ops have  
>> a clean fist but run all the words together.  No spaces.  Drives me 
>> nuts. ItwouldbelikemewritingthismessageandnotputtinginanyspacesNow 
>> that just doesn't work with my brain.
>> 
>> As to break-in or full QSK, I see it much like a conversation occurs in 
>> a room.  There's thoughts shared back and forth between participants and 
>> does  the allude to swapping ops.  Yet, one can operate semi-QSK with 
>> the same style and results.   Seems that after all, once CW speed gets 
>> above certain points, hearing between CW elements and words b

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Re: [Elecraft] FS: KXPA100 with ATU

2020-06-11 Thread Paul Gacek via Elecraft
Hi Dean

Fair question and at close to a thousand bucks, I want to give buyers the 
protection that eBay and PayPal offer.

Part of that is looking at my past transaction history and taking whatever 
comfort (or not) from that. 

Paul Gacek

> On Jun 11, 2020, at 7:41 PM, Dean L  wrote:
> 
> Why would you pay Epay their "cut" when you have the entire elecraft
> audience at your findertips?
> 73
> Dean/K2WW
> 
>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2020, 14:14 Paul Gacek via Elecraft <
>> elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I listed one of my pair on eBay if anyone is interested.
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Elecraft-KXPA100-100w-amplifier-and-ATU-excellent-condition-Factory-build/203018788430?hash=item2f44dcde4e:g:f7kAAOSw9Dle4m6R
>> 
>> 
>> Paul
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Re: [Elecraft] Q codes

2020-06-11 Thread Andy Durbin
"ZBM2: "Place a competent operator on watch on this frequency."

Is QLF the more sensitive equivalent??

73,
Andy, k3wyc

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Re: [Elecraft] FS: KXPA100 with ATU

2020-06-11 Thread Dean L
Why would you pay Epay their "cut" when you have the entire elecraft
audience at your findertips?
73
Dean/K2WW

On Thu, Jun 11, 2020, 14:14 Paul Gacek via Elecraft <
elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> I listed one of my pair on eBay if anyone is interested.
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Elecraft-KXPA100-100w-amplifier-and-ATU-excellent-condition-Factory-build/203018788430?hash=item2f44dcde4e:g:f7kAAOSw9Dle4m6R
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Balanced Mic to Unbalanced Connection Follow Up Question

2020-06-11 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX

Tony;

Seems you have done an excellent job and things are working as you 
expected.   And a special thanks to you for reporting back to the group 
your findings and results.   I wish everyone did that. We'd all be 
informed.


73

Bob, K4TAX


On 6/11/2020 8:00 PM, Tony wrote:

All:

The K3S seems to work flawlessly with XLR cable connected to the rear 
panel mic input as per the groups recommendations. I have pins 1 and 3 
connected to the sleeve of the 1/8" plug and pin 2 to the tip. I'm 
using a dynamic mic so the bias is turned off. This setup works fine 
on the KX3 as well.


If anyone is interested, I have a brand new Heil XLR cable for the K3S 
that I won't be using.


Thanks,

Tony -K2MO


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Re: [Elecraft] Balanced Mic to Unbalanced Connection Follow Up Question

2020-06-11 Thread Jim McDonald
I have a microHAM microKEYER III that I use with my K3S.  I have a Heil
HM-10 Dual mic, which uses the Heil cable with an XLR connector, and a Heil
headset, which has a 3.5mm phone plug.  Both connect to the MKIII, which
connects to the rear mic jack on the K3S, and it's easy to switch between
the two using the microHAM router software.

Jim N7US

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Question

All:

The K3S seems to work flawlessly with XLR cable connected to the rear panel
mic input as per the groups recommendations. I have pins 1 and 3 connected
to the sleeve of the 1/8" plug and pin 2 to the tip. I'm using a dynamic mic
so the bias is turned off. This setup works fine on the
KX3 as well.

If anyone is interested, I have a brand new Heil XLR cable for the K3S that
I won't be using.

Thanks,

Tony -K2MO


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Re: [Elecraft] Balanced Mic to Unbalanced Connection Follow Up Question

2020-06-11 Thread Tony

All:

The K3S seems to work flawlessly with XLR cable connected to the rear 
panel mic input as per the groups recommendations. I have pins 1 and 3 
connected to the sleeve of the 1/8" plug and pin 2 to the tip. I'm using 
a dynamic mic so the bias is turned off. This setup works fine on the 
KX3 as well.


If anyone is interested, I have a brand new Heil XLR cable for the K3S 
that I won't be using.


Thanks,

Tony -K2MO


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK Timing

2020-06-11 Thread Tom Doligalski via Elecraft
The P3 is quite useful to an NTS NCS. I just called the Carolinas Net (CN) and 
was very pleased to see where I could send folks down 2 (while I had folks up 
2).  Things have got much more difficult with the digital modes!

Tom W4KX

Sent from my iPad 

> On Jun 11, 2020, at 5:07 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> I eavesdrop on the 80 m traffic nets occasionally. Impressive level of 
> efficiency and skill among the ops. Who knew there were so many Q-codes :)
> 
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
>> On Jun 11, 2020, at 2:03 PM, Tom Doligalski  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Wayne!
>> 
>> I had faith that the excellent qsk in the K3 would carry over to the K4. 
>> Thanks so much!
>> 
>> I can easily recognize other rigs in cw nets. 
>> 
>> 50 years of cw traffic!
>> 
>> Tom W4KX
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad 
>> 
 On Jun 11, 2020, at 3:23 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tom,
>>> 
>>> On the K4, with full QSK selected, you can hear between dots at 40 WPM.
>>> 
>>> There's no need for a "QRQ" mode, as on the K3, because the K4 doesn't have 
>>> to update a synth between TX and RX.
>>> 
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 11, 2020, at 11:51 AM, Tom Doligalski via Elecraft 
  wrote:
 
 I still do CW traffic handling, qsk is really important to me. That’s the 
 reason I plunked down m money for the K4. 
 
 Tom W4KX
 
 Sent from my iPad 
 
>> On Jun 11, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX  
>> wrote:
> 
> Not being  a high speed CW op nor a contest CW op, I find that QSK is, 
> well, just very nice.   I don't need to hear between the CW elements, nor 
> even the letters, but more so in between the words.   Some ops have  a 
> clean fist but run all the words together.  No spaces.  Drives me nuts. 
> ItwouldbelikemewritingthismessageandnotputtinginanyspacesNow that 
> just doesn't work with my brain.
> 
> As to break-in or full QSK, I see it much like a conversation occurs in a 
> room.  There's thoughts shared back and forth between participants and 
> does  the allude to swapping ops.  Yet, one can operate semi-QSK with the 
> same style and results.   Seems that after all, once CW speed gets above 
> certain points, hearing between CW elements and words become non existent.
> 
> After 61 years as a ham, starting as a Novice in 1959, I'm becoming a 
> fairly good CW op and likewise enjoying it.   I use it largely to 
> stimulate my old slow brain.
> 
> 73
> 
> Bob, K4TAX
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 6/11/2020 11:59 AM, Al Lorona wrote:
>> I have always felt as K9ZTV does.
>> 
>> I don't mean to speak heresy here, and I would never deny anybody's 
>> right to use full QSK, such as when chasing DX. However, I have never 
>> felt the need to hear between dits. Between characters or words seems 
>> more than enough for me, especially at the CW speeds where most people 
>> exist. Plus, I've always felt it was rude to be interrupted during a 
>> transmission for anything other than an emergency. One time, when I was 
>> a novice, the other guy suddenly broke in frantically: MUST QRT QRT LOST 
>> BIAS. That was definitely a valid emergency. I could almost smell his 
>> final getting red hot and hear the plate current pegging the meter that 
>> evening.
>> 
>> Al  W6LX
>> 
>> 
> For any practical purpose needed by amateur radio operators that I 
> can think of, the ability to hear between elements is not a 
> life-and-death virtue.  The ability to hear between characters is by 
> far magical enough.
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft KPOD (new in box) $259 plus shipping

2020-06-11 Thread Paul Gacek via Elecraft
I guess my I messed up my cut and paste.

Should read “ new from Elecraft is $289 and I’m asking $259 + $15 shipping”.

Paul

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> 
> Details are our favorite web site …..
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> https://elecraft.com/products/k-pod-control-panel-for-the-k3s-k3 
> 
> 
> New from Elecraft is $259, I’m asking $289.
> 
> Paypal only to paul.ga...@gmail.com   
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> Ship to USA addresses only. $15 shipping.
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Re: [Elecraft] Q codes

2020-06-11 Thread Fred Jensen
I wrote a little ham utility that will look up prefixes, and Q/Z 
signals, do QRZ searches, and tell me, given a call, if it's a member of 
my several club associations.  Building the Q/Z signal table was 
enlightening ... I particularly like ZAA: "You are not observing proper 
circuit discipline"; ZAB: "Your speed key is improperly adjusted"; and 
ZAC: "Cease using speed key", especially if used by NCS in sequence.  
And, there's always ZBM1: "Place a qualified speed key operator on watch 
on this frequency", and when this all fails, ZBM2: "Place a competent 
operator on watch on this frequency."


73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 6/11/2020 2:52 PM, Andy Durbin wrote:

"Who knew there were so many Q-codes :)"

My favorite from my time as a teenager in the cadet force signals wing was QUQ.  I had 
remembered it as "Shall I point my searchlight at a cloud, occulting if necessary, 
in order to pinpoint my position".

Either my memory is playing tricks on me or the meaning changed a bit over the years.  
The definition I found now is "Shall I train my searchlight nearly vertical on a 
cloud, occulting if possible and, if your aircraft is seen, deflect the beam up wind and 
on the water (or land) to facilitate your landing?"

Either way, not a code that comes up in most QSO.

73,
Andy, k3wyc



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Re: [Elecraft] Q codes

2020-06-11 Thread Phil Kane
On 6/11/2020 2:52 PM, Andy Durbin wrote:

> "Who knew there were so many Q-codes :)" [QUQ]

> Either way, not a code that comes up in most QSO.

For those of us who were subjected to passing Element 5 to get the FCC
Radiotelegraph Operator License, we had to recognize a whole slew of
Q-Signals that pertained to commercial message traffic procedure, which
also would not come up in our ham QSOs.  I forgot most of them by now.  :)

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[Elecraft] kpod for sale

2020-06-11 Thread wa8wzg
Hi Paul.. can you confirm you r asking price the kpod,, I am interested 
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[Elecraft] FS: Elecraft KPOD (new in box) $259 plus shipping

2020-06-11 Thread Paul Gacek via Elecraft
I have an unboxed KPOD that I purchased about 9 months ago which is surplus to 
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[Elecraft] FS: Elecraft AT1 40db attenuator - $39

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[Elecraft] FS: Unbuilt Elecraft XG50 signal source - $29

2020-06-11 Thread Paul Gacek via Elecraft
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[Elecraft] Q codes

2020-06-11 Thread Andy Durbin
"Who knew there were so many Q-codes :)"

My favorite from my time as a teenager in the cadet force signals wing was QUQ. 
 I had remembered it as "Shall I point my searchlight at a cloud, occulting if 
necessary, in order to pinpoint my position".

Either my memory is playing tricks on me or the meaning changed a bit over the 
years.  The definition I found now is "Shall I train my searchlight nearly 
vertical on a cloud, occulting if possible and, if your aircraft is seen, 
deflect the beam up wind and on the water (or land) to facilitate your landing?"

Either way, not a code that comes up in most QSO.

73,
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[Elecraft] FS: Elecraft BL2 Kit unbuilt and complete - $29 plus shipping

2020-06-11 Thread Paul Gacek via Elecraft
I have an unbuilt BL2 kit.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK Timing

2020-06-11 Thread Wayne Burdick
I eavesdrop on the 80 m traffic nets occasionally. Impressive level of 
efficiency and skill among the ops. Who knew there were so many Q-codes :)

Wayne
N6KR


> On Jun 11, 2020, at 2:03 PM, Tom Doligalski  wrote:
> 
> Hi Wayne!
> 
> I had faith that the excellent qsk in the K3 would carry over to the K4. 
> Thanks so much!
> 
> I can easily recognize other rigs in cw nets. 
> 
> 50 years of cw traffic!
> 
> Tom W4KX
> 
> Sent from my iPad 
> 
>> On Jun 11, 2020, at 3:23 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tom,
>> 
>> On the K4, with full QSK selected, you can hear between dots at 40 WPM.
>> 
>> There's no need for a "QRQ" mode, as on the K3, because the K4 doesn't have 
>> to update a synth between TX and RX.
>> 
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 11, 2020, at 11:51 AM, Tom Doligalski via Elecraft 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I still do CW traffic handling, qsk is really important to me. That’s the 
>>> reason I plunked down m money for the K4. 
>>> 
>>> Tom W4KX
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad 
>>> 
> On Jun 11, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX  wrote:
 
 Not being  a high speed CW op nor a contest CW op, I find that QSK is, 
 well, just very nice.   I don't need to hear between the CW elements, nor 
 even the letters, but more so in between the words.   Some ops have  a 
 clean fist but run all the words together.  No spaces.  Drives me nuts. 
 ItwouldbelikemewritingthismessageandnotputtinginanyspacesNow that just 
 doesn't work with my brain.
 
 As to break-in or full QSK, I see it much like a conversation occurs in a 
 room.  There's thoughts shared back and forth between participants and 
 does  the allude to swapping ops.  Yet, one can operate semi-QSK with the 
 same style and results.   Seems that after all, once CW speed gets above 
 certain points, hearing between CW elements and words become non existent.
 
 After 61 years as a ham, starting as a Novice in 1959, I'm becoming a 
 fairly good CW op and likewise enjoying it.   I use it largely to 
 stimulate my old slow brain.
 
 73
 
 Bob, K4TAX
 
 
 
 
> On 6/11/2020 11:59 AM, Al Lorona wrote:
> I have always felt as K9ZTV does.
> 
> I don't mean to speak heresy here, and I would never deny anybody's right 
> to use full QSK, such as when chasing DX. However, I have never felt the 
> need to hear between dits. Between characters or words seems more than 
> enough for me, especially at the CW speeds where most people exist. Plus, 
> I've always felt it was rude to be interrupted during a transmission for 
> anything other than an emergency. One time, when I was a novice, the 
> other guy suddenly broke in frantically: MUST QRT QRT LOST BIAS. That was 
> definitely a valid emergency. I could almost smell his final getting red 
> hot and hear the plate current pegging the meter that evening.
> 
> Al  W6LX
> 
> 
 For any practical purpose needed by amateur radio operators that I can 
 think of, the ability to hear between elements is not a life-and-death 
 virtue.  The ability to hear between characters is by far magical 
 enough.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK Timing

2020-06-11 Thread Tom Doligalski via Elecraft
Hi Wayne!

I had faith that the excellent qsk in the K3 would carry over to the K4. Thanks 
so much!

I can easily recognize other rigs in cw nets. 

50 years of cw traffic!

Tom W4KX

Sent from my iPad 

> On Jun 11, 2020, at 3:23 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tom,
> 
> On the K4, with full QSK selected, you can hear between dots at 40 WPM.
> 
> There's no need for a "QRQ" mode, as on the K3, because the K4 doesn't have 
> to update a synth between TX and RX.
> 
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
>> On Jun 11, 2020, at 11:51 AM, Tom Doligalski via Elecraft 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I still do CW traffic handling, qsk is really important to me. That’s the 
>> reason I plunked down m money for the K4. 
>> 
>> Tom W4KX
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad 
>> 
 On Jun 11, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Not being  a high speed CW op nor a contest CW op, I find that QSK is, 
>>> well, just very nice.   I don't need to hear between the CW elements, nor 
>>> even the letters, but more so in between the words.   Some ops have  a 
>>> clean fist but run all the words together.  No spaces.  Drives me nuts. 
>>> ItwouldbelikemewritingthismessageandnotputtinginanyspacesNow that just 
>>> doesn't work with my brain.
>>> 
>>> As to break-in or full QSK, I see it much like a conversation occurs in a 
>>> room.  There's thoughts shared back and forth between participants and does 
>>>  the allude to swapping ops.  Yet, one can operate semi-QSK with the same 
>>> style and results.   Seems that after all, once CW speed gets above certain 
>>> points, hearing between CW elements and words become non existent.
>>> 
>>> After 61 years as a ham, starting as a Novice in 1959, I'm becoming a 
>>> fairly good CW op and likewise enjoying it.   I use it largely to stimulate 
>>> my old slow brain.
>>> 
>>> 73
>>> 
>>> Bob, K4TAX
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 6/11/2020 11:59 AM, Al Lorona wrote:
 I have always felt as K9ZTV does.
 
 I don't mean to speak heresy here, and I would never deny anybody's right 
 to use full QSK, such as when chasing DX. However, I have never felt the 
 need to hear between dits. Between characters or words seems more than 
 enough for me, especially at the CW speeds where most people exist. Plus, 
 I've always felt it was rude to be interrupted during a transmission for 
 anything other than an emergency. One time, when I was a novice, the other 
 guy suddenly broke in frantically: MUST QRT QRT LOST BIAS. That was 
 definitely a valid emergency. I could almost smell his final getting red 
 hot and hear the plate current pegging the meter that evening.
 
 Al  W6LX
 
 
>>> For any practical purpose needed by amateur radio operators that I can 
>>> think of, the ability to hear between elements is not a life-and-death 
>>> virtue.  The ability to hear between characters is by far magical 
>>> enough.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK Timing

2020-06-11 Thread Wayne Burdick
Hi Tom,

On the K4, with full QSK selected, you can hear between dots at 40 WPM.

There's no need for a "QRQ" mode, as on the K3, because the K4 doesn't have to 
update a synth between TX and RX.

Wayne
N6KR


> On Jun 11, 2020, at 11:51 AM, Tom Doligalski via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> I still do CW traffic handling, qsk is really important to me. That’s the 
> reason I plunked down m money for the K4. 
> 
> Tom W4KX
> 
> Sent from my iPad 
> 
>> On Jun 11, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX  wrote:
>> 
>> Not being  a high speed CW op nor a contest CW op, I find that QSK is, 
>> well, just very nice.   I don't need to hear between the CW elements, nor 
>> even the letters, but more so in between the words.   Some ops have  a clean 
>> fist but run all the words together.  No spaces.  Drives me nuts. 
>> ItwouldbelikemewritingthismessageandnotputtinginanyspacesNow that just 
>> doesn't work with my brain.
>> 
>> As to break-in or full QSK, I see it much like a conversation occurs in a 
>> room.  There's thoughts shared back and forth between participants and does  
>> the allude to swapping ops.  Yet, one can operate semi-QSK with the same 
>> style and results.   Seems that after all, once CW speed gets above certain 
>> points, hearing between CW elements and words become non existent.
>> 
>> After 61 years as a ham, starting as a Novice in 1959, I'm becoming a fairly 
>> good CW op and likewise enjoying it.   I use it largely to stimulate my old 
>> slow brain.
>> 
>> 73
>> 
>> Bob, K4TAX
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 6/11/2020 11:59 AM, Al Lorona wrote:
>>> I have always felt as K9ZTV does.
>>> 
>>> I don't mean to speak heresy here, and I would never deny anybody's right 
>>> to use full QSK, such as when chasing DX. However, I have never felt the 
>>> need to hear between dits. Between characters or words seems more than 
>>> enough for me, especially at the CW speeds where most people exist. Plus, 
>>> I've always felt it was rude to be interrupted during a transmission for 
>>> anything other than an emergency. One time, when I was a novice, the other 
>>> guy suddenly broke in frantically: MUST QRT QRT LOST BIAS. That was 
>>> definitely a valid emergency. I could almost smell his final getting red 
>>> hot and hear the plate current pegging the meter that evening.
>>> 
>>> Al  W6LX
>>> 
>>> 
>> For any practical purpose needed by amateur radio operators that I can 
>> think of, the ability to hear between elements is not a life-and-death 
>> virtue.  The ability to hear between characters is by far magical enough.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK Timing

2020-06-11 Thread Tom Doligalski via Elecraft
I still do CW traffic handling, qsk is really important to me. That’s the 
reason I plunked down m money for the K4. 

Tom W4KX

Sent from my iPad 

> On Jun 11, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX  wrote:
> 
> Not being  a high speed CW op nor a contest CW op, I find that QSK is, well, 
> just very nice.   I don't need to hear between the CW elements, nor even the 
> letters, but more so in between the words.   Some ops have  a clean fist but 
> run all the words together.  No spaces.  Drives me nuts. 
> ItwouldbelikemewritingthismessageandnotputtinginanyspacesNow that just 
> doesn't work with my brain.
> 
> As to break-in or full QSK, I see it much like a conversation occurs in a 
> room.  There's thoughts shared back and forth between participants and does  
> the allude to swapping ops.  Yet, one can operate semi-QSK with the same 
> style and results.   Seems that after all, once CW speed gets above certain 
> points, hearing between CW elements and words become non existent.
> 
> After 61 years as a ham, starting as a Novice in 1959, I'm becoming a fairly 
> good CW op and likewise enjoying it.   I use it largely to stimulate my old 
> slow brain.
> 
> 73
> 
> Bob, K4TAX
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 6/11/2020 11:59 AM, Al Lorona wrote:
>> I have always felt as K9ZTV does.
>> 
>> I don't mean to speak heresy here, and I would never deny anybody's right to 
>> use full QSK, such as when chasing DX. However, I have never felt the need 
>> to hear between dits. Between characters or words seems more than enough for 
>> me, especially at the CW speeds where most people exist. Plus, I've always 
>> felt it was rude to be interrupted during a transmission for anything other 
>> than an emergency. One time, when I was a novice, the other guy suddenly 
>> broke in frantically: MUST QRT QRT LOST BIAS. That was definitely a valid 
>> emergency. I could almost smell his final getting red hot and hear the plate 
>> current pegging the meter that evening.
>> 
>> Al  W6LX
>> 
>> 
> For any practical purpose needed by amateur radio operators that I can 
> think of, the ability to hear between elements is not a life-and-death 
> virtue.  The ability to hear between characters is by far magical enough.
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[Elecraft] FS: KXPA100 with ATU

2020-06-11 Thread Paul Gacek via Elecraft
I listed one of my pair on eBay if anyone is interested.

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Re: [Elecraft] CW rise time setting

2020-06-11 Thread Bob Wilson, N6TV
On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 12:31 PM E.H. Russell  wrote:

> I suppose shaping of the curve corners removes harmonics introduced by the
> abrupt transitions, allowing an accelerated ramp inbetween. But does this
> really reduce the total rise time to 2.5ms? It seems that the softening
> process must take some time. Wish I had a K3 here to scope against other
> radios. Anything published out there?
>

Ed,

Per your request, I am publishing this scope screen capture which plots the
CW rise time in my K3 with the KSYN3A synthesizer upgrade.  It's about 4 ms
from 0 RF to full RF (2 ms per horizontal division):

https://www.kkn.net/~n6tv/N6TV_K3_Ser_1494_FW_05.64_TX_DLY_8_CW_QRQ_OFF.png


The vertical markers are there to illustrate that *CONFIG:TX DLY nor 008*
provides only about *6 ms* of RF delay after "KEY OUT" goes to ground, not
8 ms, and there is jitter in that delay as well (not shown).  If CW QRQ
mode is enabled, the delay drops to about 4.6 ms and the TX DLY setting is
completely ignored.

This was discussed here two years ago.  See this post for suggestions on
how to avoid hot-switching a non-Elecraft amplifier driven by a K3 or K3S:

http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Default-K3-transmit-delay-may-be-too-short-for-slow-QRO-amplifiers-td7641779.html


73,
Bob, N6TV
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK Timing

2020-06-11 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Not being  a high speed CW op nor a contest CW op, I find that QSK is, 
well, just very nice.   I don't need to hear between the CW elements, 
nor even the letters, but more so in between the words.   Some ops have  
a clean fist but run all the words together.  No spaces.  Drives me 
nuts. Itwouldbelikemewritingthismessageandnotputtinginanyspaces    Now 
that just doesn't work with my brain.


As to break-in or full QSK, I see it much like a conversation occurs in 
a room.  There's thoughts shared back and forth between participants and 
does  the allude to swapping ops.  Yet, one can operate semi-QSK with 
the same style and results.   Seems that after all, once CW speed gets 
above certain points, hearing between CW elements and words become non 
existent.


After 61 years as a ham, starting as a Novice in 1959, I'm becoming a 
fairly good CW op and likewise enjoying it.   I use it largely to 
stimulate my old slow brain.


73

Bob, K4TAX




On 6/11/2020 11:59 AM, Al Lorona wrote:

I have always felt as K9ZTV does.

I don't mean to speak heresy here, and I would never deny anybody's right to 
use full QSK, such as when chasing DX. However, I have never felt the need to 
hear between dits. Between characters or words seems more than enough for me, 
especially at the CW speeds where most people exist. Plus, I've always felt it 
was rude to be interrupted during a transmission for anything other than an 
emergency. One time, when I was a novice, the other guy suddenly broke in 
frantically: MUST QRT QRT LOST BIAS. That was definitely a valid emergency. I 
could almost smell his final getting red hot and hear the plate current pegging 
the meter that evening.

Al  W6LX



For any practical purpose needed by amateur radio operators that I can think 
of, the ability to hear between elements is not a life-and-death virtue.  The 
ability to hear between characters is by far magical enough.

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software

2020-06-11 Thread Warren Merkel
I have made autostart really easy for the KPA500 Remote, KAT500 Remote, 
and KPA1500 Remote applications at computer restart.   I have the script 
posted here:


https://github.com/KD4Z/Kstart-RemoteHost

See top of script for instructions.

Warren, KD4Z

On 6/9/2020 4:42 PM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:

Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2020 14:44:30 -0400
From: Gordon LaPoint
To:elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software
Message-ID:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Can these remote software's be in host mode on startup?? I run a remote
and would like to have them connect to the hardware and be in host mode
on boot of the computer.? Right now I just log on remotely and start
each one as needed.

Thanks,

Gordon - N1MGO


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK Timing

2020-06-11 Thread Al Lorona
I have always felt as K9ZTV does.

I don't mean to speak heresy here, and I would never deny anybody's right to 
use full QSK, such as when chasing DX. However, I have never felt the need to 
hear between dits. Between characters or words seems more than enough for me, 
especially at the CW speeds where most people exist. Plus, I've always felt it 
was rude to be interrupted during a transmission for anything other than an 
emergency. One time, when I was a novice, the other guy suddenly broke in 
frantically: MUST QRT QRT LOST BIAS. That was definitely a valid emergency. I 
could almost smell his final getting red hot and hear the plate current pegging 
the meter that evening.

Al  W6LX


>>>For any practical purpose needed by amateur radio operators that I can think 
>>>of, the ability to hear between elements is not a life-and-death virtue.  
>>>The ability to hear between characters is by far magical enough.  
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[Elecraft] FS: Elecraft KXPA100 Amp + KXAT100 ATU (NEVER USED!)

2020-06-11 Thread Mike Marusin
Hey everyone - I bought a KXPA100 Amplifier Kit with the KXAT100 internal
ATU a few years ago and have literally never used it. I have all the
original packaging / manuals and many of the bags with cables, etc have
never even been opened.

It's been sitting in my closet wrapped up and I feel it's time for someone
to benefit from it and actually use it. Selling for $1100 shipped within
the US.

73,
Mike Marusin
KC9YFH
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Re: [Elecraft] Balanced Mic to Unbalanced Connection Follow Up Question

2020-06-11 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX

I use a Shure SM-58 mike with my K3S. It is a balanced dynamic mike.

It has an XLR at the mike and the 8 pin Foster connector at the radio.  
I use good quality, 2 conductor, shielded mike cable.


It is wired as follows:

XLR pin #1 to Foster pin #8  {shield}

XLR pin #2 to Foster pin #1  {black}

XLR pin #3 to Foster pin#7 {white}

Operating 160M - 6M at 500 watts or less, I find no issues with the 
wiring convention as it works very satisfactory.


73

Bob, K4TAX



On 6/11/2020 8:15 AM, Rich wrote:
Interesting stuff here.   Since the original post was regarding the 
Rear Mic jack.   Would this method also be recommended for the Front 
Panel Mic Jack also?


My guess is yes

Rich

K3RWN

On 6/9/2020 22:50 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Joe,

I did not say anything to the contrary.  The 'dongle' that I was 
referring to is the connection to pin 1 which should be connected to 
the outside of the K3/K3S enclosure.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/9/2020 9:13 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:


On 2020-06-09 8:14 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

So --- make an adapter so that pins 2 and 3 are connected to the tip
and ring of the mic jack,

No, no, no!  The ring of the K3/K3S rear panel mic jack *IS FLOATING*.
Pins 2 and 3 of the XLR *MUST BE* connected to tip and *SLEEVE*.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2020-06-09 8:14 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
So --- make an adapter so that pins 2 and 3 are connected to the 
tip and ring of the mic jack, then add a one wire 'dongle' exiting 
from the XLR plug that is connected to XLR pin 1.  Connect that 
wire to a screw on the chassis of the K3/K3S/KX2/KX3.


Noise, hum and buzz are  then conducted from the shield onto the 
"outside" of the radio enclosure where it should be - avoiding the 
"pin 1" problem that K9YC often refers to.


For those not familiar with the "pin 1" problem, it is caused by 
the jacks in the transceiver (or other gear) being connected to the 
circuit board ground plane where it can couple into sensitive 
circuits and cause coupling problems. Proper bonding between 
enclosures following the path of audio or coax lines can minimize 
that problem by keeping some of the noise, hum and buzz mostly on 
the outside of the enclosure rather than injecting it into the 
circuits on the board ground plane.
We did not have this problem when we mounted the jacks on the 
enclosure rather than mounting them on the boards, usually isolated 
from the outside of the enclosure.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/9/2020 7:47 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:


Correcting *ALL* the typos  



So which is correct?


They are electrically equivalent.

Pin 2 of the XLR connection is Mic+
Pin 3 of the XLR connection is Mic-
Pin 1 of the XLR connection is the cable shield (ground).

Mic audio is present between pins 2 and 3.

Pin 1 is nothing more than a shield and should be independently
connected to the *chassis at the jack*.

Good quality XLR cables use a *TWISTED PAIR* for pins 2 and 3.
That twisted pair is shelf shielding - particularly good for
rejecting hum. Connecting a shield in parallel with the wire
for pin 3 "unbalances" the twisted pair and makes it much
more susceptible to hum and RFI - particularly when the shell
of the 3.5mm plug/jack is not tied to the chassis/case of the
transceiver.



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Re: [Elecraft] Balanced Mic to Unbalanced Connection Follow Up Question

2020-06-11 Thread Rich
Interesting stuff here.   Since the original post was regarding the Rear 
Mic jack.   Would this method also be recommended for the Front Panel 
Mic Jack also?


My guess is yes

Rich

K3RWN

On 6/9/2020 22:50 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Joe,

I did not say anything to the contrary.  The 'dongle' that I was 
referring to is the connection to pin 1 which should be connected to 
the outside of the K3/K3S enclosure.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/9/2020 9:13 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:


On 2020-06-09 8:14 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

So --- make an adapter so that pins 2 and 3 are connected to the tip
and ring of the mic jack,

No, no, no!  The ring of the K3/K3S rear panel mic jack *IS FLOATING*.
Pins 2 and 3 of the XLR *MUST BE* connected to tip and *SLEEVE*.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2020-06-09 8:14 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
So --- make an adapter so that pins 2 and 3 are connected to the tip 
and ring of the mic jack, then add a one wire 'dongle' exiting from 
the XLR plug that is connected to XLR pin 1.  Connect that wire to a 
screw on the chassis of the K3/K3S/KX2/KX3.


Noise, hum and buzz are  then conducted from the shield onto the 
"outside" of the radio enclosure where it should be - avoiding the 
"pin 1" problem that K9YC often refers to.


For those not familiar with the "pin 1" problem, it is caused by the 
jacks in the transceiver (or other gear) being connected to the 
circuit board ground plane where it can couple into sensitive 
circuits and cause coupling problems. Proper bonding between 
enclosures following the path of audio or coax lines can minimize 
that problem by keeping some of the noise, hum and buzz mostly on 
the outside of the enclosure rather than injecting it into the 
circuits on the board ground plane.
We did not have this problem when we mounted the jacks on the 
enclosure rather than mounting them on the boards, usually isolated 
from the outside of the enclosure.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/9/2020 7:47 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:


Correcting *ALL* the typos  



So which is correct?


They are electrically equivalent.

Pin 2 of the XLR connection is Mic+
Pin 3 of the XLR connection is Mic-
Pin 1 of the XLR connection is the cable shield (ground).

Mic audio is present between pins 2 and 3.

Pin 1 is nothing more than a shield and should be independently
connected to the *chassis at the jack*.

Good quality XLR cables use a *TWISTED PAIR* for pins 2 and 3.
That twisted pair is shelf shielding - particularly good for
rejecting hum. Connecting a shield in parallel with the wire
for pin 3 "unbalances" the twisted pair and makes it much
more susceptible to hum and RFI - particularly when the shell
of the 3.5mm plug/jack is not tied to the chassis/case of the
transceiver.



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Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Ethernet port RFI, cause and cure

2020-06-11 Thread Bob Wilson, N6TV
I forgot to mention, if it's not practical to replace a long unshielded
Ethernet cable, you can easily install these effective Ethernet RFI filters:

https://www.dxengineering.com/parts/dxe-iso-plus-2

Long ago I attempted to use turns of Ethernet cable wrapped around Mix #31
split ferrite beads on both ends of a long 100 Mbps unshielded Ethernet
run, but it didn't help much.  These DXE filters worked much better.

73,
Bob, N6TV


On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 12:50 AM Bob Wilson, N6TV  wrote:

> *Summary*:
>
> To avoid 20m narrow band RFI generated by the KPA1500 and other Ethernet
> devices, use shielded Ethernet cables, CAT5 STP or CAT6 STP, instead of
> CAT5e UTP or CAT6 UTP.
>
> *Details*:
>
> The KPA1500 and some SDRs provide a 100 Mbps Ethernet port, which may be
> tempting to use instead of USB in some situations.   However, if you
> connect an "ordinary" CAT5e UTP Ethernet cable (unshielded twisted pair)
> to the amplifier, and your antenna is anywhere near the shack, you will
> probably hear steady carriers around 14.029.5 MHz (plus carriers from any
> other Ethernet devices in your house, or your neighbor's house, that are
> connecting at 100 Mbps).  I have not observed any HF carriers from
> devices connecting at 1 Gbps, but the KPA1500 does not support 1 Gbps.
>
> This is illustrated by the following P3SVGA screen capture (the unshielded
> Ethernet cable was short, only 1m long):
>
> https://www.kkn.net/~n6tv/KPA1500_RFI_from_3_ft_UTP_Ethernet_Cable_N6TV.
> png
>
> My 20m antenna was cranked down, located 9m directly above the amplifier.
>
> The (weak) Ethernet carriers are visible even when the amp. is OFF.   They
> disappear completely when either end of the Ethernet cable is disconnected.
>
> I replaced the 1m CAT5e UTP cable with a slightly longer 1.5m CAT5 STP
> cable (*shielded* twisted pair), and the KPA1500 carriers were not
> detectable..
>
> *How to tell if an Ethernet cable is UTP or STP*:
>
> Often it is printed on the cable, but it's easier to simply look at the RJ-45
> connectors.  If you see clear plastic on three sides instead of shiny
> silver metal on three sides, it is unshielded (UTP) not shielded (STP).
> Most Ethernet cables are UTP, because STP costs more.
>
> *How to tell if a device is connecting at 100 Mbps or 1 Gbps*:
>
> Implementations vary, but most modern Ethernet switches and Routers have
> one or two LEDs on each jack that indicate the current link speed.  My
> Netgear GS105 switch is clearly labeled (both LEDs green = 1000 Mbps, one
> LED green = 100 Mbps).
>
> 73,
> Bob, N6TV
>
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[Elecraft] KPA1500 Ethernet port RFI, cause and cure

2020-06-11 Thread Bob Wilson, N6TV
*Summary*:

To avoid 20m narrow band RFI generated by the KPA1500 and other Ethernet
devices, use shielded Ethernet cables, CAT5 STP or CAT6 STP, instead of
CAT5e UTP or CAT6 UTP.

*Details*:

The KPA1500 and some SDRs provide a 100 Mbps Ethernet port, which may be
tempting to use instead of USB in some situations.   However, if you
connect an "ordinary" CAT5e UTP Ethernet cable (unshielded twisted pair) to
the amplifier, and your antenna is anywhere near the shack, you will
probably hear steady carriers around 14.029.5 MHz (plus carriers from any
other Ethernet devices in your house, or your neighbor's house, that are
connecting at 100 Mbps).  I have not observed any HF carriers from devices
connecting at 1 Gbps, but the KPA1500 does not support 1 Gbps.

This is illustrated by the following P3SVGA screen capture (the unshielded
Ethernet cable was short, only 1m long):

https://www.kkn.net/~n6tv/KPA1500_RFI_from_3_ft_UTP_Ethernet_Cable_N6TV.png


My 20m antenna was cranked down, located 9m directly above the amplifier.

The (weak) Ethernet carriers are visible even when the amp. is OFF.   They
disappear completely when either end of the Ethernet cable is disconnected.

I replaced the 1m CAT5e UTP cable with a slightly longer 1.5m CAT5 STP
cable (*shielded* twisted pair), and the KPA1500 carriers were not
detectable..

*How to tell if an Ethernet cable is UTP or STP*:

Often it is printed on the cable, but it's easier to simply look at the RJ-45
connectors.  If you see clear plastic on three sides instead of shiny
silver metal on three sides, it is unshielded (UTP) not shielded (STP).
Most Ethernet cables are UTP, because STP costs more.

*How to tell if a device is connecting at 100 Mbps or 1 Gbps*:

Implementations vary, but most modern Ethernet switches and Routers have
one or two LEDs on each jack that indicate the current link speed.  My
Netgear GS105 switch is clearly labeled (both LEDs green = 1000 Mbps, one
LED green = 100 Mbps).

73,
Bob, N6TV
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