Re: [Elecraft] hooking up a K3 to a Alpha 76

2013-07-04 Thread Guy, K2AV
Over the years I have had numerous faux paux with RCA plug cables. Two
favorites are 1) the shell doesn't really connect with sides of the mating
jack.  2) The pin is not long enough to contact inside the jack.  This can
be due to short pin, or some detail of the plug shell/jack combo not
allowing sufficient insertion.  

The stories associated would make a small  book.   73, Guy K2AV



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Re: [Elecraft] dBi dBd correction

2009-05-07 Thread Guy, K2AV

The way the regulation reads, hams are being told they can put 50 watts PEP
on an antenna, up to the gain of a dipole, and call that 50 watts ERP. 
Higher gain must be referenced to the dipole and the 50 watts reduced
accordingly. 

For mobile stations there is no mention of the idea that a LESSER antenna
may have the 50 watts increased. 100 watts appears to be in excess of
regulation.  Stated another way, 50 watts max regardless, unless the antenna
has more gain than a dipole in which case power must be reduced by a factor
representing the gain of that antenna over a dipole.

The whole thing is really interesting since there are really precise
definitions of ERP elsewhere in FCC referencia.  By the regular definition
of ERP 50 watts into a dipole for 5.3 MHz at 108 feet over medium ground
will have an ERP of 328 watts.  At 50 feet the ERP is roughly 200 watts. 

We had best be very careful with our privileges on 60m, because all FCC
would have to do is enforce regular definition of ERP and the same dipole at
108' would take seven and a half watts to obtain 50 ERP at pattern max.

73, Guy

It may also be that whoever wrote the reg was having a brain f**t at the
time, and they just haven't discovered it yet.

The max pattern gain and takeoff angle on a dipole



Joe Subich, W4TV-4 wrote:
 
 
 
 If my recollection is correct, 0 dBd is 2.15 dB greater than 
 0 dBi in the dipole's favored directions (perpendicular to the 
 radiator).
 
 Only in free space ... when a horizontal dipole is placed 
 above ground all of the radiated power is concentrated in 
 one hemisphere.  Since both the E and H fields are confined 
 to the single hemisphere, the resulting gain is 6 dB more 
 than the free space gain or 8.17 dBi (1.25 + 6.02).  
 
 73, 
 
... Joe, W4TV 
  
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ron 
 D'Eau Claire
 Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 5:32 PM
 To: d...@w3fpr.com
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] dBi dBd correction
 
 
 Yeah, I misread the rule. I thought the rule was saying a 
 dipole was 0 dbi, not 0 dBd! Didn't make sense to me.
 
 Gus, KB0YH also caught my mistake.  
 
 Tnx for un-kinking my brain Guys!
 
 73,
 
 Ron 
 
 -Original Message-
 
 Ron,
 
 The FCC regulations for 60 meter power is referenced to the 
 maximum lobe 
 of a dipole.  Sooo --
 That should be 0 dBd (gain/loss relative to a dipole) 
 rather than 0 
 dBi (gain relative to an isotropic radiator).
 If my recollection is correct, 0 dBd is 2.15 dB greater than 0 dBi in 
 the dipole's favored directions (perpendicular to the 
 radiator). For those not familiar with an isotropic radiator, 
 it is a point 
 construct in free-space that radiates equally in all directions.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
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Re: [Elecraft] dBi dBd correction

2009-05-07 Thread Guy, K2AV

ARRL ain't the FCC.  And the ARRL's opinion is no mitigation whatsoever if I 
get an FCC pink slip. The reg is the reg, and it's a strange brew for the FCC, 
where ERP normally has nothing to do with dBd.

73, Guy.

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Guy, K2AV wrote: 

 The way the regulation reads, hams are being told they can put 50 watts PEP 
 on an antenna, up to the gain of a dipole, and call that 50 watts ERP. 
 Higher gain must be referenced to the dipole and the 50 watts reduced 
 accordingly. 
 
 For mobile stations there is no mention of the idea that a LESSER antenna 
 may have the 50 watts increased. 100 watts appears to be in excess of 
 regulation.  Stated another way, 50 watts max regardless, unless the antenna 
 has more gain than a dipole in which case power must be reduced by a factor 
 representing the gain of that antenna over a dipole. 
   

Where did you get that interpretation? The ARRL QA, based on the FCC 
rules, says the following: 

quote 
The best antenna configurations are those with a proven track record 
on the lower bands, keeping in mind that using a loop or an array of 
some kind will require you to do the math to ensure you are not 
radiating more than 50 W ERP /in any direction/. The math is fairly 
straightforward. You must reduce your power by the number of decibels 
your antenna gain exceeds 0 dBd (0 dB relative to a half-wave dipole). 
Conversely, you can increase your transmitter power if your antenna 
exhibits loss compared to a dipole. Be prepared to document these 
situations in your station records, however. 
endquote 

Gus Hansen 
KB0YH 

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Re: [Elecraft] Filter Selection Approach

2009-04-15 Thread Guy, K2AV

Casual operation has rarely strained my radios, and my MP and my K2 are quite 
adequate for that.  When we get to contesting, all facilities are strained.  I 
prefer the K2 audio to the K3, and sometime soon I will get to the bottom of 
that.  The quickest, sharpest, deepest skirts on selectivity still belong to my 
MP with matched 8 pole INRAD filters in 8 Mhz and 455 kHz IF's.  (I know that's 
heresy, but so be it...)

On receiver front-end, overload immunity and SDR-driven DSP magic (like 
blanking key clicks), with more to come, the K3 leaves everything else in the 
dust. But I pick roofing filters to get as close as I can to the MP+INRAD+INRAD 
skirt performance. 

BOTH K3 selectivities (roofing and DSP) need to be matched to produce optimal 
rejection of signals just outside of the desired listening window.   I have the 
400 and 250 8 poles in my K3 and list them as 450 and 350 in the filter 
setup. The bulk of my operation in a contest is RUNNING, not search and pounce, 
for DX tests mostly using a very large 40m antenna fixed on Europe, and with 
huge differentials (80+ db) between desired weak signals and undesired strong 
signals just above and below.   I also specifically use the [sometimes 
complained about] mild difference between the two to advantage, as I use BOTH 
for running, and use 350/300 when I need it just a bit tighter. 

While I could narrow down with a 5 pole 200 on a weak station, 1/3 or more of 
the stations calling are off my frequency, often because the current packet 
spot is up or down.   And I'm not allowed to spot myself to fix it.   I have to 
keep a window to hear them or someone else gets the top score. 

The next CW station can be up/down only 350 Hz, meaning that outside the 
listening window, the skirt needs to dive for ultimate rejection as fast as 
possible. Being flat at +/- 175 is not the issue when setting at 350 width, 
it's how far down the combination of skirts has gone at +/- 225.  The most 
important thing is where are the skirts halfway down and how much more do they 
drop with another 10 Hz, NOT the 3 db or 6 db points.  The 8 pole roofers are 
part of making those skirts dive more in 10 Hz halfway down. 

I set up my filters at the +/- 50 dB points, and eagerly await the day when CW 
widths and shifts are in 10 Hz increments. 

I have had some extremely vociferous contradictions from some insisting that 
the 8 pole roofers are simply a waste, and a wide and narrow 5 pole are all 
needed, but my contest experience continues to suggest otherwise.

All of the above are in stark contrast to casual operation.  Buy filters for 
how you use the radio. If you are into hard contesting, do it with 8 poles.

73, Guy
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Firmware 3.03 introducing artifacts?

2009-03-23 Thread Guy, K2AV



Jerry Lockett wrote:
 
 If one uses the new birdie removal feature, can you then receive
 normal signals at that spot, or does a 'hole' remain there that would
 prevent one from receiving any signal at that same spot?
 
 regards, Jerry
 

You will hear normal signals. There is no hole.  The K3 is making offsetting
changes to conversion frequencies which produce the same RX frequency and at
the same time shift the birdies off your listening frequency. The birdies
are harmonics and IM off the individual conversion frequencies.

73, Guy
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Firmware 3.03 introducing artifacts?

2009-03-23 Thread Guy, K2AV

brblockquote class=quote light-black dark-border-colordiv class=quote 
light-border-color
div class=quote-author style=font-weight: bold;.k8dd. wrote:/div
div class=quote-messageI have not tried this - I don't seem to have any 
birdies on the CW frequencies that I use, but from what you say - you are not 
removing birdies, you are moving them out of the way and then when you change 
frequencies to where you moved the birdie you would have to move it back?
brbr73 nbsp; nbsp;Hank nbsp; nbsp;K8DD
/div
/div/blockquote
As soon as the small frequency segment containing the birdie is past, the K3 
transparently restores the normal conversion frequency regimes. All the 
arithmetic is done for you. Birdies are shifted out only in segments that the 
operator chooses to identify in the elimination procedure. Birdies differ in 
frequency and level from radio to radio, and even whether they surface at all. 
nbsp;Fewer birdies surface using the usual CW bandwidths.
brbrTo Barry, there is not supposed to be a hole. nbsp;Contact Elecraft 
with your specifics.
brbr73, Guy.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: The ARRL RTTY Round UP

2009-01-05 Thread Guy, K2AV

Changing SHIFT and WIDTH granularity to 10 Hz from 50 would improve CW
useability as well.  

A lot of us have formed contest operating habits and tactics based on analog
SHIFT and WIDTH functions. Like a combination of a small shift and
(sometimes) a lesser width change to put someone up or down just a bit
farther down the passband and keep the same skirt frequency on the opposite
side of the passband.

73, Guy


wayne burdick wrote:
 
 All RTTY issues noted, Dave -- thanks.
 
 Congratulations on your excellent showing!
 
 Wayne
 N6KR
 
 On Jan 5, 2009, at 9:00 AM, Dave Hachadorian wrote:
 
 My pair of K3's also worked well in the RTTY Roundup - 1800
 qso's. There are only a couple of issues that I saw:

 1. On each transition between mark/space, there is a brief
 upward power excursion. One of my amplifiers has an LED
 wattmeter, and one of the LED's was blinking like crazy.
 Also, the screen current on that amp was varying
 significantly. I've complained about this in the past.
 Elecraft is supposed to be working on it.

 2. When you reduce the DSP bandwidth to 300 Hz, it is not
 possible for me to get the audio output exactly centered
 between the RTTY modem's mark and space detector. The SHIFT
 control is too coarse. One click of the SHIFT control moves
 the audio either slightly left of center, or slightly right
 of center. It would be nice if there were a fine mode
 setting for the SHIFT control.

 I can live with both of these issues, but fixing them would
 make this rig absolutely perfect for RTTY, at least for me.

 Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
 Yuma, AZ


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 Ladies and Gents

 I just about cleared a thousand Qs this weekend in the RU in
 only 17 hours of on-the-air time. The K3 was spectacular in
 performance. The RX is magnificent and copied signals that I
 could not hear out of the speaker but printed on the screen.
 This happened many times. From Kansas, I did get to work
 some deep Europeans and even Israel called me. I did not
 hear any Russian stations at all. The DX was weak but
 workable. Magnificent RX. The TX was healthing and robust. I
 was running my amp so I was only running about 60 watts or
 less. The TX stayed cool and stable.

 The only issue I noticed was that between Dual PB on and
 off...the power would drop about 200 watts. No big deal, but
 interesting phenomonon. With the Dual PB on...the power
 would drop...with it off...the power would return to normal.
 Wayne and Eric already know about this issue.

 Thanks to all who worked me. Fun contest.

 Lee - K0WA


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Re: [Elecraft] Automatic diversity configuration

2008-12-29 Thread Guy, K2AV

My problem is that once in diversity mode I can't seem to turn it off
(admittingly assuming it's a toggle).  What's the command sequence to turn
off diversity (other than power off and on)?

73, Guy


wayne burdick wrote:
 
 Joachim wrote:
 
 I've just installed MCU 2.76 and find that the diversity auto config 
 no longer works. Anyone else notice this?
 
 Hi Joachim,
 
 I just tested this and it appears to be working. What you may be 
 noticing is that in diversity mode (*long* hold of SUB), VFO B is no 
 longer linked to VFO A. In recent revisions, VFO A still controls both 
 synthesizers, but VFO B is left independent so it can be used for SPLIT 
 with diversity (i.e., as the transmit frequency).
 
 You'll also notice that in diversity mode, the VFO A kHz decimal point 
 flashes as a reminder. If you link the VFOs (normal hold of SUB), the 
 VFO B kHz decimal point flashes. In fact you can still link VFO B to 
 VFO A if desired, even in diversity mode, but more likely you'll leave 
 VFO B free to use for split.
 
 One other change in the most recent revision is that PRE and ATTN are 
 independent for the main and sub receivers. Use BSET to set up the sub 
 receiver's PRE and ATTN.
 
 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Cannot adjust center frequency after update to 2.73

2008-12-22 Thread Guy, K2AV

Did you power off the K3 immediately after updating the firmware?  I usually
get strange results on something when I forget to do this.  I'm using 2.73
without any problem I know of.  

73, Guy.


LB3SA wrote:
 
 I cannot seem to adjust the center freq. anymore for CW and data. I also
 lost my side tone.
 
 Center freq is locked to 0.00 on CW and 1.35 on Data. Both with the
 asterisk showing.
 
 Monitor and center freq. works fine on SSB.
 
 Please note that I also installed KRX3 and KDVR3 today but I'm fairly
 certain that all this worked after HW upgrade but not after SW upgrade
 which I did a few hours later.
 
 Anyone else experienced this?
 

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[Elecraft] Contest use of KRX3

2008-12-20 Thread Guy, K2AV

Now that I have the KRX3 installed and have been playing with it a bit... 

It is quite a new thing for me to have a sub RX that is useable as the run
RX or as an SO2V search  pounce RX with good selectivity.  I would be
interested in knowing how others have used the KRX3 in a CW contest.   

One specific question aside from the general question: if I am still working
the run frequency and have taken the sub RX off the run frequency (SO2V) for
mults, have a weak DX station in the sub RX narrow filter and I want to call
higher or lower to work the pile-up, can I use the XIT based upon the sub RX
frequency? If I do BSET and then XIT it just clears the BSET and does
nothing.  Can this be done from the K3 front panel or can it be done somehow
from a logging program with sent commands? 

73, Guy. 

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Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-11-01 Thread Guy, K2AV

I'd like to be able to calibrate it to 1 uV and 50 uV and know that the noise
on the band is -10 or +3 dBuV and that the signal from a friend has gone
down to +18 from +26 last week and previous.  That requires a calibration,
and while one could just use what the rig does naturally as a reference, the
K3 has changing SDR code, and maintaining a calibration on a reference
source sure does simplify things.

To another objection earlier in the thread, inexpensive test equipment
doesn't have selectability to narrow down on a single CW signal. So I'm
looking at the firmware only abilities (not hardware) of a K3 to do
something that has always been a bear.  Other SDR's have it, so I figure
Wayne will get to it in time, and I will have a piece of on-the-air test
gear that I've never had, and prior to now couldn't get without taking out a
mortgage.

73, Guy.


David Woolley (E.L) wrote:
 
 Guy, K2AV wrote:
 beam kind of thing.  Although that can be done relatively with the audio
 voltage level, it wouldn't allow me to tell a local that his ground wave
 signal has gone down 3 db and is staying there, or be able to create data
 for studies over time.  
 
 You only require that both measurements be relative to the same 
 reference, not that the absolute value of that reference be known.  3dB 
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Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-31 Thread Guy, K2AV

I would just like to see signal strength, including noise, in absolute
reference levels. In particular when listening to a local while turning a
beam kind of thing.  Although that can be done relatively with the audio
voltage level, it wouldn't allow me to tell a local that his ground wave
signal has gone down 3 db and is staying there, or be able to create data
for studies over time.  

Since it is an SDW, such is possible.  dBuv is fine.  Might need linearity
points as part of the package which could be calibrated with a precision
attenuator. 


Changing the functionality of the BG or SM commands so they could provide
greater resolution *would* break software, which is what I was saying. But
while I can see that having software access to the dBm reading could be
useful for antenna measurement purposes, given the vagaries of propagation I
would have thought that a 1 S-unit resolution was perfectly adequate for
normal purposes. I cannot see how it would be more useful to be told I am
S6.5 rather than S6 or S7, or even S5 or S8! Whatever the reading is it is
going to be different 20 seconds later anyway.


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Re: [Elecraft] Bigger K3 S-meter

2008-10-30 Thread Guy, K2AV

Wasn't there a way or going to be a way to display or send absolute dBm for
signal strength. That could just be a program running and getting reports
from the K3 over the serial port. Integer dBm would tell you everything you
needed to know. 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 built-in 2-tone generator problem (2.7 kHz filter)

2008-10-11 Thread Guy, K2AV



wayne burdick wrote:
 
 We just discovered that it was not working with the 2.7 kHz filter. One 
 of the tones would in this case be right on the filter's edge, 
 resulting in very poor tone balance. Also, 2-tone testing was set up to 
 work only in LSB mode.
 
 Anyone trying to use the 2-tone generator for testing with the 2.7 kHz 
 filter and/or USB may have quite anomalous results.
 

As in some may have been affected, others not, depending on the filter?

I would assume that everything was OK if one was viewing the transmitted
two-tone signal with a scope and was able to adjust the independent tone to
get a nice sharp zero crossing notch on the RF envelope viewed at an audio
sweep rate. 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 new Beta

2008-10-02 Thread Guy, K2AV

What is the previous non-beta version?


Barry Simpson wrote:
 
 I just downloaded the latest beta version. However I did not get beyond
 problems on 40m.
 
 It made the pa unstable and with reduced output as I went higher in
 frequency from the lower (7000) band edge. I also had a high current
 warning
 even into a dummy load.
 
 I have reverted to the previous (non beta) version and all is ok again. I
 do
 not understand why a firmware upgrade should cause this problem but it
 did.
 

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Re: [Elecraft] OT--K3's Approaching 2,000

2008-10-01 Thread Guy, K2AV

I just hope they don't need the credit market to keep the business greased. 
There are AAA rated businesses now who can't float short term loans for
normal business needs.

On Sep 30, 2008, at 10:12 PM, David Yarnes wrote:

 Hi All,

 I just have to say that, notwithstanding all the sticky problems  
 we've seen in production, it's pretty darn amazing that we are  
 getting close to having 2,000 K3's out there. And apparently demand  
 is still pretty strong.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - interfacing to N1MM Contest Logging software

2008-09-29 Thread Guy, K2AV



Barry Pfeil wrote:
 
 
 ESCape key - In the configurer, N1MM says that ESC will not interrupt CW
 keying via the radio communications port.  But I'm using the DTR line on
 the single RS232 interface for keying and ESC seems to instantly stop any
 F key-initiated sending.  Am I missing something?
 
 

I asked this exact question on N1MM's yahoo reflector not too long ago, but
did not get a response from anyone.  Last time I tried it, using a single
RS232 cable for CW and CAT, the MM's CW did work nicely, but I was NOT
able to get esc to stop the CW. Don't know if there's a change in MM
behavior, or whether you and I are doing something different.

That the principal writers cannot lay hands on a K3 to test things
apparently is (or maybe was? ) a bit of a holdup.  Since it's a free
program, there's no corporate research budget for the coders to go buy one,
other than to wait in line and spend the cash out of their own pocket, like
everyone else.  



I'd like to see MM use the winkey-ish K3 send text commands instead of doing
the timing dependent key line on RTS/DTR. That too has been discussed over
there.

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Re: [Elecraft] AGC behaviour

2008-09-24 Thread Guy, K2AV

With the new firmware, I found it necessary to do the S-meter calibration.
This restored the previous base behavior.  

Not sure what the state was before the calibration, whether I had done the
prior calibration correctly, etc., so I can't blame the firmware. My
guess, though, is that I'm on a learning curve, and only the latest, most
informed thing I have done can be trusted, if that.

Afterwards, if your noise goes from S nothing to S5 by attaching the
antenna, you surely are in a noisy locaton. If so, turn off the preamp
and/or use the atten to reduce the resting gain of your RX. After that
just turn your RF gain counter clockwise until the resting noise in the RX
is something you can live with. 

I've had to do that all summer long, as 40 and 80 meters have had nasty QRN
nearly continuously.

Beyond that, reducing bandwidth on CW, the K3 has been able to listen down
into the noise in a way unrivaled by any other RX I've used, including the
Orion. 

Of late for CW QSO's, once established, I center their signal, and go to 50
Hz bandwidth immediately. No reason not to, and the bandwidth drops the
noise way down. If they are above the noise, tuning just barely slightly off
their signal removes just enough softness in the signal to make it quite
pleasant. 

73, Guy. 

My K3 #1263 was delivered in July with F/W MCU 2.18 DSP 1.84 and I was
really enjoying the RX capabilities of the K3. Now that I have upgraded to
2.38/1.90 I believe the RX is more restless when listening to an empty
space on the band. The S-meter is constantly on S5 with pre-amp ON and S3
with pre-amp OFF on the lower bands (30/40m). I have compensated that a bit
by lowering the AGC threshold (from 5 to 4 now).
I liked the initial F/W wrt AGC behavior better (less fatiguing to listen
to).

I have read in the F/W history file that changes to the AGC have been made
from F/W 2.22 onwards. So I wonder if other people have the same experience.

I live in an urban area so it IS noisy out here. It is just the way the K3
deals with that noisy background level.
When switching to ANT2 (not connected to anything) the RX goes virtually
silent.

-- Enno, PF5X


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RE: [Elecraft] E-mail Warning ...

2008-09-03 Thread Guy, K2AV

W4TV wrote: 

The paranoid behavior of the owners or QTH.net is making 
all lists on this server practically useless.  I wonder if 
there are any offending words in this post?  

Where I work only about 3% of the email coming in is genuine. The rest is
spam.  They spend major money to belong to a large corporate group solution
that reacts real-time to changes in spam. 

Not so sure that the paranoia isn't entirely justified. Nobody down in that
IT group of ours will utter a peep about how they do it. Can't expect people
to publish lists of banned words or phrases either. Of course it annoys me
no end when *my* email gets notched because of something in the text.

73, Guy. 


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Re: [Elecraft] Hearing the effect of narrower roofing filter

2008-08-31 Thread Guy, K2AV



. Maybe
I should have ordered the 200 Hz 5-pole instead, but I got it into my head
that maybe the 8-pole filters were better in some way.  I didn't repeat
this mistake when I ordered filters for the subreceiver.

Dick, K6KR

I know I will incur some religious wrath from some however here is the
OTHER side of that argument.  It's not that I am denying the issues that are
raised to question getting the two 8 pole CW filters (400 and 300 in
actuality).

I am solving a SINGLE happenstance which occurs over, over, over and over
again in contests, so much so that until the K3 it was in my mind the
LIMITING issue in improving 40m CW DX scores. 

I am at a contest station in eastern NC just off Pamlico Sound. On 40m to
Europe we are using a 5 element wire quad suspended across a 220 foot NE/SW
catenary between two towers. 

Broadcast signals above 7.1 routinely peg meters and light all the lights. 
So do some US stations in the NE, and so do some number of VERY LOUD
European stations (VLS).  WHAT they are doing to be so loud is not part of
my exposition. They just are very loud.

At some point in the contest, one has worked all the VLS, loud, medium and
well-antenna'd QRP signals. What remains is a bewildering and seemingly
bottomless pool of stations that can hear us (QRO on 5 elements) and are
trying to work us on antennas with the gain of a basement floor joist wet
noodle antenna. There are hundreds and hundreds of these. We have some
number of recordings made in Europe of these, and they are quite weak over
there. 

It is guaranteed, only a matter of time, and sometimes immediate, that a VLS
will settle in the next slot above or below. They may be as close as 350 Hz.
The problem now is working the QRP wet noodle station who is into the noise
without hardware AGC pumping or other effects from a VLS INSIDE the roofing
filter that was set to hear stations who will call sometimes +/- 200-250 Hz.  

I need the roofing filter is to get down 30 db as quickly as possible,
without giving up too much of the +/- 250 Hz. The 400 Hz is a good width
even for VLS +/- 500 Hz.  If a VLS squeezes me on one side, I only want to
give up +/- real estate in the roofing filter on that side. The procedure is
to drop to 300 hz roofing and DSP and move the RX center 50 hz away from TX
frequency and the VLS. I give up listening so far on the side of the VLS,
but keep the real estate on the other side.  

It is a matter of the width out to the edge and the largest db drop per 10
hz in the skirts thereafter. The roofing filter keeps the VLS from getting
into the hardware AGC or pushing the DSP to the extreme.  

I have used both of these filters for years in my FT1000MP and am completely
familiar with their shape and use in a contest. 

I have heard it said that the 200 5 pole filter will do better for picking
out signals in a very crowded situation, perhaps so in an extremely tight
situation. But thus far I have been able to go narrow with the 300 8 pole
and it is the DSP handling the work there. 

At some point I would like to be able to tune the center of the DSP CW
selectivity up/down at 25 Hz rate using RIT *WITHOUT* moving the position of
the roofing filter relative to the band.  The point of the roofing filter is
to reject the VLS in the next slot above and below me. Tune the whole thing
up or down to listen to a weak station off-frequency for whatever reason and
you let one of the VLS in under the roof.

Just the view from the other side of the river... :)


73, Guy. 

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RE: [Elecraft] Hearing the effect of narrower roofing filter

2008-08-31 Thread Guy, K2AV



 I have used both of these filters for years in my FT1000MP 
 and am completely familiar with their shape and use in a 
 contest. 

The 250 Hz filters in an FT1000MP is an entirely different 
situation.  In the FT-1000D/FT-1000MP, there are two filters 
- each approximately 350 Hz wide - in cascade yielding a 
composite 250 Hz (at -6dB) bandwidth.

In my MP, having INRAD pairs at 400 and 250, one often used tactic was
leaving the 455 IF at 400 (500 on the panel) and switching in the 250 in
the 2nd If, to deal with a VLS squeezing in from above or below. Though it
was certainly useful, the other cr*p being generated by the IF in the MP
prevented making best use of the filters.  I don't expect anything else
roofing wise from them in the K3. The mere 100 Hz difference in the two is
enough to deal with a squeezing-in VLS 

I already had compared the K3 website curves with my measured MP curves on
the two filters with the 455 IF set wide, so I knew exactly what I was
getting. In the WAE, this setup performed spendidly as expected. I had dsp
width set to get the wider CW filter at 500 Hz dsp, narrower CW filter at
300 dsp. 

That's why *I* bought the two, with my eyes wide open, I make no claims to
have the fully portable mantra for everyone to follow, just a view from
another perspective.

73, and even if your mileage may vary may it still take you where you want
to be.

Guy, K2AV
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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware and DSP Upgrades

2008-08-26 Thread Guy, K2AV

...

I  make the suggestion that more time be spent proofing firmware and DSP
upgrades and for Elecraft to employ software IVV.

Bob, K9PAG

With all due respect, and perhaps a bit too blunt, BETA is BETA.  The
OFFICIAL (production) release has not changed since I received my K3.

If you are averse to risk and finding a bug, then just don't do beta. 
Otherwise join the fray and find out what it's like to have responsive
programmers, and half a thousand field testers working on beta releases
(and KNOWING they are beta releases). 

I've been in the software business for four decades and do not perceive the
Elecraft procedures as substandard, or lacking in procedure.  Only in the
government and regulated monopolies (read the old Bell System) or
life-dependent products can one get away with testing something for four
years before commercial release. 

Also a K3 is not the FAA Flight Service System and peoples lives do not
depend on it.

Just their contest scores :)



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Stopped Transmitting

2008-08-18 Thread Guy, K2AV

I've had the same problem with #1239.  I have made some observations about
it.  

1) It does not involve the KPA3. 
2) The behavior is as if the power had been set to 0.0 by a program bug.
Cannot hear the carrier externally on CW -- when it's working I CAN hear the
carrier with power set to 0.1 w on the K2 setting next to it.  When it's
working and I set power to 0.0 I do NOT hear the carrier on K2 setting next
to it. 

When power is at 0.0 I still hear some VERY low level phase noise or keying
artifacts. When the trouble is in effect, I still hear the keying artifacts.  

I have several times caused the power to return by simply putting the rig in
TUNE and leaving it there. It will come back to power over a long interval
(5 minutes?) in a very jerky manner and suddenly kick in at 100 watts from
somewhere in the 5-6-7-8 watt range. Idea here was to burn it in or burn it
out.  But neither happens, and it happens semi-randomly -- Seems to happen
mostly when turning it on after cooling off overnight. 

Could this really be an ALC bug?

Is there a diagnostic we can run, or a test procedure to further isolate
this trouble?  Would really love to solve this before the contest season.

Guy.


Jim Brown-10 wrote:
 
 On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 09:36:04 -0700 (PDT), Ed Schuller wrote:
 
I was using my K3 in the NAQP contest yesterday
 
 Hi Ed, 
 
 My K3 is about two months old. Just before NAQP CW, I left it on 
 overnight, having verified that everything was working with N1MM and 
 SO2R (with the MP) the night before. When I came in the shack an 
 hour before start time Saturday morning, I had no RF out at all, but 
 the keyer/paddle made sidetone. By the time I had finished 
 troubleshooting, the keyer had stopped working. It's currently in 
 line for repair in Aptos. Initial diagnosis is that the 10W power 
 amp died. 
 
 73,
 
 Jim K9YC
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3-100 #1433: K3 ATU MALFUNCTION

2008-08-18 Thread Guy, K2AV

Observations on KAT3 in #1239

Does not always set to 1:1 (think that is to be expected, particularly if
close to 1:1 in bypass -- it has discrete values to switch in and out, not
continuously variable components like my ATR-30)

Sometimes it will not get started. This is usually someplace where the
bypass SWR is high, like 2.5. It goes through the fast relay cycle, but does
not fasten on a solution. In one of these situations, if I QSY to a place
where SWR is lower and retry, it will solve it, and I can get to the
original frequency it would not solve with two or three intermediate
solutions.  So it's NOT that it DOESN'T have the range, it's just not
finding it in the solve if the reach is too far. 

I don't know of a way to place these solutions in memory (as in the MP) or
if it is supposed to be doing that or if that is planned.

At the moment the KAT in the K2 has it beat badly on smarts and match range. 

73, Guy.


Jack Regan-2 wrote:
 
 Greetings to all,
 
  
 
 Here is the text of a note I sent to k3support.  I hope someone has some
 ideas.
 
 On Saturday the 16th I noticed that the ATU gave a higher SWR than bypass
 when transmitting to a resonant antenna. The difference was small so I
 thought I would just note it and observe.
 
  
 
 Today, Sunday the 17th I found that on 14.050 in bypass mode at 14.050 I
 get
 a 1.1 to 1 reading but in ATU mode I get higher that 2 to 1 and a HI SWR
 message.
 
 On 7.050 I get 1.0 to 1 in bypass and 1.4 to 1 in ATU mode. 
 
  
 
 This is a change from when the rig was first built on Friday the 8th.
 Originally if I had 1.1 in bypass I would get 1.0 in ATU mode.
 
  
 
 Help! I thought I was up and running after a week of problems and now a
 new
 one! Any suggestions would be appreciated.
 
  
 
 Jack
 
  
 
  
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Voice pitch adjustment on SSB

2008-08-16 Thread Guy, K2AV

One thing I seem to be noting more and more on SSB, that operators are tuning
up on the zeros and the rigs are good enough to put that within a few
cycles.  For tuning around on SSB, I've gone to the practice of setting freq
display to .000, holding COARSE, setting it to 100 hz steps and tuning
through the phone band. Surprising how many (most?) sound clear at some
.0 that way. 

A few Hz one way or another won't make much difference. Spot on net
frequencies don't require transmitting any tones. Let everyone with the
accuracy transmit and receive on the zeros. Let the others zero in. 

The reason this was done differently in the old days was that people did
not have rigs that would set or stay accurately on a frequency. So everyone
would do their best to zero the NCS.  Both my MP and K3 come up dead on WWV
every time all the time. 

To listen to Yankees on WCBS radio (not always easy from NC), I set dial to
880.000 and listen up or down ESSB using 6Khz roofing filter.  I can do the
same thing to listen to music on Radio Moscow on 7125.000. 

73, Guy


O. Johns wrote:
 
 Folks,
 
 I read the web pages about ESSB, after seeing on the reflector that  
 the K3 now supports it.  It struck me that even ESSB doesn't solve one  
 big issue with voice transmission: PITCH.  Tuning the SSB receiver  
 changes the overall pitch of the received voice.  Unless you have met  
 the sending ham or at least talked to him/her on the phone (or on  
 AM!!), you have no real idea how high- or low-pitched the voice really  
 is.  One can only guess, and get a sort of feel for what a reasonable  
 tuning is.
 
 One way to solve this may seem a joke, but it isn't.  Everyone should  
 buy a little 440 Hz pitch pipe, the kind used to tune musical  
 instruments.  Then, say, the net control could blow his pitch pipe at  
 the start of the net and all the listeners could blow their little  
 pitch pipes while listening to net control.  They would all then  
 adjust their receiver tunings until the pitches matched.  Like a  
 shortwave orchestra tuning up.  (Of course, this might violate the FCC  
 rule against music on ham radio, but maybe not if the pitch pipe was  
 near a pure sine wave.  Then the signal transmitted by net control  
 would be just an ordinary CW signal, but at 440 Hz from the net  
 control's suppressed carrier.)
 
 A refinement would be to build a pure 440 Hz tone generator into the  
 microphone preamps of radios.  Net control pushes a button while  
 transmitting and it goes out over the air.  The net members push  
 another button while receiving to produce a 440 Hz tone in their  
 speakers along with the received signal from net control.  Then the  
 receiving operators adjust their receiver tuning until the pitches  
 coincide.  For the tone challenged among us, the receiver tuning could  
 even be automated, much like the K3 already does for sidetone on CW.
 
 This scheme came to me when I was adjusting the audio parameters on my  
 K2.  I had the K2 running into a dummy load, and was listening to it  
 on headphones plugged into a TenTec RX320D across the room.  Since the  
 K2 was on a dummy load, I tried whistling and was surprised and  
 pleased to find that the PITCH of my whistle didn't match the one I  
 was hearing on the phones.  But I could adjust the RX320D tuning until  
 they did match.  Guarantee of zero beat and realistic pitch in voice  
 reception.
 
 Doesn't seem that this would be too hard to do.  Maybe the K3 could  
 even do it in firmware?
 
 
 73,
 
 Oliver Johns W6ODJ
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: anticipated date for next normal FW update?

2008-08-15 Thread Guy, K2AV

Something from my other existence,

Field Validator's Release or Early Adopter's Release.

One testing function is a methodical sweep for introduced bugs which
includes regression testing for undoing of earlier fixes. The other
major testing function is to operate all normal customer uses in the field
with an eye out for problems and reporting such.  

The latter is termed field validation where I work, undertaken by customers
who have some stake in early adoption and understand they may find stuff.
The key to that kind of a developer/customer relationship is a speedy and
serious turnaround on anything found. A customer may also be expecting
improvements that are not bugs as part of this transaction.

Seems to me that Elecraft is nicely operating in the spirit of Early
Adopter's Release as stated above.

73, Guy K2AV


In that case, it would be better for them to rename these pre-release or 
similar, instead of beta.

I worked for Microsoft for several years, and now have a complete aversion 
to the term beta, so I will never load something using that term for 
production use. I assume I am not the only one with that problem ;-)

73,
Mitch DJ0QN


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Re: [Elecraft] K3-100 #1433 Will not transmit on 40 meters LSB.

2008-08-12 Thread Guy, K2AV

Do you have power per band set in your configuration? If so you may not have
advanced the power on 40m. Simply turn the power knob on 40m and make sure
you have it set to your desired value.  

The first time I turned that option on, all of the bands defaulted to some
very low level (0.5?). It's very handy for setting amp drive levels that
vary per band so I don't need to use ALC or worry about it as I change
bands.

73, Guy.



Jack Regan-2 wrote:
 
 The rig works well on all the USB bands. Mic is a Kenwood 600 ohm dynamic
 mic.  Bias is on.  Front panel Input.
 
  
 
 On 7.180 (for example) PTT puts rig in transmit mode. Red TX led comes on.
 Voice or tapping the mic is heard from the K3 internal speaker. 
 
 NOTHING MOVES ON THE RF DISPLAY. On 20 USB the display show the
 appropriate
 peak power output.
 
  
 
 I have looked at the manual but cannot find what I need in the wealth of
 options. 
 
  
 
 Hope you guys can help!
 
  
 
 I do have the K3 Utility up and running. I went over the crystal
 configuration settings that I have with Scott at Elecraft to confirm my
 set
 up.
 
 At the time my USB transmissions were working so when Scott confirmed my
 choices I felt good about having deciphered the manual!  Scott also
 confirmed my mic set up.
 
  
 
 Was I ever surprised when I could not transmit on 40 LSB this afternoon!
 
  
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
  
 
 Jack, AE6GC, KX1 #1403, K3-100 Kit #1433.
 
  
 
  
 
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Re: Re[Elecraft] v D1 of the K3 Owner's Manual - Copyright

2008-08-04 Thread Guy, K2AV

Even though I'm about as old-fashioned as one gets about reading a real
printed book, I find that downloading a copy of an Elecraft manual PDF and
storing it someplace I can click on it works out best.  I can do SEARCHES in
the PDF, which allows me to find all references to a control or whatever. I
only print a few select pages if I need a physical copy. 

My original printed copy has been rendered suspect.  Hooray -- keep the
changes coming. 


Eric - WA6HHQ wrote:
 
 Hi Charles,
 
 Elecraft gives official permission for our customers to print and bind 
 single copies of any Elecraft manual for their personal use, as long as 
 these manuals are not offered for sale.
 
 Regards,
 Eric Swartz
 Elecraft, Inc.
 
 charles wrote:
 Do Elecraft, Inc give K3 owners the right to print and bind a copy of the 
 current revision of the Owner's Manual ?
   
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Release, Rev. 2.22

2008-07-29 Thread Guy, K2AV

I'm still showing 2.19 at the beta site.  What am I doing wrong?


K3 beta-test firmware revision 2.22 is now available. Details appear 
below.

For instructions on how to load beta firmware, please see:

   http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm

73,
Wayne
N6KR

* * *

MCU 2.22 / DSP 1.88, 7-28-08

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: S meter calibration

2008-07-24 Thread Guy, K2AV

I'll worry about that when Wayne  company quit hearing, accepting reports,
and integrating suggestions.

73, Guy.


That's not a good line of logic.

It's along the same lines of: Your country: Love it or Leave
It!!!.   Baloney.  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: S meter calibration

2008-07-23 Thread Guy, K2AV

To the issue, 

I would think that the hardware AGC intercept (and doing the mod) should
strictly be a performance issue set by Elecraft for engineering reasons, and
that the neat *option* to do S-meter calibration would be to set S9 and the
other major points (S1/3/5/7 and +20/40/60) by raising or lowering
calibrated signal with attenuator and let the firmware map it.  Yeah, yeah,
I know, put it on the list...

As to ...


Mine is like that and I don't appreciate it very much.

I think Elecraft is putting out an affordable breakthrough product, AND
amazingly managing to refine it further as they go. 

In the past I've had to put up with a truculent company who insists their
engineers are gods and never make mistakes, and fixes mistakes in firmware
under cover of darkness in the next improved design five years later and
then charges new equipment prices plus for it.

On the other hand, I've watched Elecraft evolve a portable QRP rig (K2) into
a contest-worthy DSP rig that you can put a battery into and carry around,
tromping receiver performance of rigs costing ten times as much. And then
leverage that experience into a rig (K3) that has knocked every other
manufacturer on their butt.

In this and other postings, we all need to remember that what Wayne 
company are being whipped for daily is to put the boxes in shipment.  AND
that there is hardly anything else like the K3 around.  Everyone has the
choice to put their money with TenTec, Yaesu, Kenwood, etc. if they want to. 
Don't like the neighborhood?  Move.  

I notice that the few K3's posted for sale on this list sold VERY fast at
asking price.

73, Guy
K2 #1239
K3 #1239

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - MCU 2.16 vs. 2.19 NR Volume Level

2008-07-23 Thread Guy, K2AV

Same here.

73, Guy
K2AV


Geoffrey Downs-2 wrote:
 
 Me too.
 
 Geoff
 G3UCK
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: David Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 5:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - MCU 2.16 vs. 2.19 NR Volume Level
 
 
 In a recent message, W6NEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ...
While running MCU 2.16 (DSP 184) the Noise Reduction (NR) signal audio 
level was a very close balance between NR OFF and NR ON.  However after 
downloading MCU 2.19 (DSP 187) I find the NR signal volume level 
significantly reduced when NR is ON.  Anyone else notice this??
 
 Yes, Frank, I find exactly the same as you.
 
 73
 -- 
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 Leeds, England, UK
 
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[Elecraft] K3: REF CAL does not change for TCXO3 alignment

2008-07-22 Thread Guy, K2AV

K3 alignment in user manual:

Method 3 (1 ppm TCXO Option):
• Locate the CONFIG:REF CAL menu entry.
Tap 1 to change the name to REF xxC.
• Locate the calibration data sheet, which shows
frequency vs. temperature over a wide range.
• For each data point, tap 2 or 3 to select the
calibration temperature, then use VFO A to set
the specified oscillator frequency in Hz.
• Tap MENU to exit the menu.

I have the TCXO3 and the little sheet with the calibration settings.  Unable
to enter settings because tapping 1 doesn't do anything in config.  REF
CAL will not change to REF xxC. The 1 button works for all normal RX
functions. 

I have Firmware 2.11 which came with #1239.  I am doing config in the
technical mode. Tapping the 1 button in config mode briefly points to B VFO,
as if that function was still in effect in config. Any clues as to what I
may be doing wrong?

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RE: [Elecraft] K3: 2.1 vs 1.8

2008-07-14 Thread Guy, K2AV

Engineering is *always* about compromises. -- Ron AC7AC

While I certainly agree in theory, I don't think I'm making many with the
K3.  I picked my roofing filters on the basis of contesting and
non-contesting. 

For non-contesting there's very little that strains the DSP.  For general
puttering about with 800-1000 hz CW, the 1.8 roofing is good enough.  DSP
does it. For puttering SSB, the 5 pole 2.7 does it.

For SSB contesting, started with stock in the MP, then 2.1 INRAD's, and
finally 1.8 INRAD's. So it's 1.8 in the K3, been there, done that. I never
use the 1.8 in puttering mode, I use 1.8 exclusively in contests. 

For CW contesting, I go on the basis that there is an S9+40 station up 500
hz. I set my roofing filter to the width I want to hear and the DSP to match
(400 for running and 250 for SP). With a 5 element 40m quad on Europe out
at NY4A, and certain Europeans running plentiful power plus yagis, S9+40
up 500 hz is common past experience, not conjecture.  BC carriers are often
off scale.

In the K3 the 400 clearly whacks down the S9+40 up 500 down to a DSP
manageable value. To wit:

At home (not NY4A) I was listening to a 40 over BC signal on 7125 last night
with the K3 on 8 pole 400.  Even turning on the preamp (carrier 60 over
tuned in), tuned up and down 500 hz I could hear right down to S3 ish noise
on speech breaks with fast AGC on. I could also hear their buzzy 120 hz
harmonic residuals (100 db below carrier?) between QRN peaks.  All that with
no ringing.  MP can't get anywhere near that using 2nd and 3rd IF INRAD
400's. 

Thas what I need.  I didn't notice any compromises running around anywhere.

Also, FWIW, when I added DSP to my K2's A-B mods it really improved
performance. K2 sounds a bunch more like the K3 than the MP, either way you
read that sentence. 

73, Guy

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