Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
I bite my tongue on this, but I wanted a matching speaker for my K3-Line back when I first go it. So - to my shop I went. The box was a size match for the P3 with a PHONE plug installed. I used 1/8 and 1/4 plywoods for some of it and 1" pine for the bottom. I installed a Bose speaker found on eBay (very heavy magnet). The box was not filled with any deadening material, as it was constructed of wood. The back was sealed - with a single 1" hole on the rear. Carefully finished (lots of hand sanding, filling, and several coats of black stain and flat varnish) and carefully labeled, the design looked perfect on the desk with the K3-Line. Performance was great - best sounding external speaker I ever used. Didn't cost much either - but, many many hours invested in building it. Kind of makes the new speaker from Elecraft look much better than building one. Do I use my speaker now? No. I gave it away and now use Behringer MS40 powered speakers. No design match, much bigger and heavier, two stereo inputs, built-in equalizer, and better sounding. Cost is comparable with the new Elecraft speaker. AFX rag chew sounds super on them. It is all about choices. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
Hi William, The enclosure was designed as an integral part of the acoustic system to generate a desired SP3 response. Placing additional items inside the case will distort this response. Also, The case is totally filled with speaker 'filler' material to properly acoustic load the driver. This will negatively impact P.S. cooling. Also there is no venting in the box for heat removal. 73, Eric elecraft.com _..._ > On Sep 15, 2015, at 9:39 AM, William Lagerberg PE1BSB > wrote: > > Hi all, > > I like the Speaker its looks far better then the SP8 from Yaesu i am using > now….., it’s for what it is a little bit expensive including tax and > transport to get it to holland, it will be i think around 260 dollars, but i > assume the quality wil make that right. And when the USB interface for the K3 > is available it’s two for one freight costs. > > But my comments: > > First I would have liked a 3,5 mm headphone plug at the front. Some body > mentioned it and it is really a good idea. > > Next i have seen on question about room in the case for a power supply, i do > really like to investigate if it is possible to put a 25 / 30A power supply > into that empty housing. Perhaps even the one that Elecraft comments and > sells on it’s site SS30DV. > > Is it possible somebody send a picture of the unit open.. perhaps the guys at > Elecraft… > - > Pe1bsb > William lagerberg > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to eric.swa...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
Hi Keith, This all seemed pretty simple on our end: - We've been asked a gazillion times for a matching speaker - We worked with a speaker design expert to do the acoustic design, adding a versatile mono/stereo A/B switch for station integration - We kept the price as low as we possible could, given the high parts cost for a rugged, all-metal enclosure w/tilt stand that matches the K-Line (and would be suitable for space-saving DIY built-ins like a 12-V UPS) The result is the SP3. I wish we could price it like a pair of typical medium-power entertainment speakers, but that isn't possible given the packaging requirements. So, yeahthe volume of traffic on this subject is a bit surprising. Yet, just as a volcano must erupt periodically to release tensions beneath the surface, so must an email forum periodically bubble and froth to satiate its hunger for intrigue and controversy ;) Wayne N6KR On Sep 16, 2015, at 10:55 AM, Terry Schieler wrote: > I'm guessing that Eric is looking at Wayne, OR, Wayne is looking at Eric > right now and saying "SEE.I told you so". ;o) > > Terry W0FM > > -Original Message- > From: Alan [mailto:n...@sonic.net] > Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 10:06 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details > > On 09/15/2015 07:17 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: >> I am truly stunned that a simple speaker could generate this much >> interest. :-) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
Hi Bob, Here's an expanded list of specs on the SP3: Weight: 4 lb, 8.4 oz ( 2.5 kg) Speaker Size: 3” x 5” (77 x 127 mm) Speaker Impedance: 4 ohms (note: the K3's internal speaker is also 4 ohms) Magnet Type: Neodymium Power Handling Capability: 15 W Frequency Response: 100-20,000 Hz Sensitivity: 90 dB SPL I will post a link to the frequency response curve shortly. Wayne N6KR On Sep 16, 2015, at 9:36 AM, Bob wrote: > I've made no decision yet on the purchase. > > However I note with interest that the email title says "Speaker details". > But this thread has had none other than Wayne's statement of SPL. I'm > curious as to the response curve. Is it flat or Communications? I'd be > looking for flat as in my opinion the K3 should deliver the desired response > and the SP3's job is to just make a faithful reproduction of it > > More technical "details" are needed > > 73, > Bob > K2TK ex KN2TKR (1956) & K2TKR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
I'm guessing that Eric is looking at Wayne, OR, Wayne is looking at Eric right now and saying "SEE.I told you so". ;o) Terry W0FM -Original Message- From: Alan [mailto:n...@sonic.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 10:06 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details On 09/15/2015 07:17 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: > I am truly stunned that a simple speaker could generate this much > interest. :-) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
I've made no decision yet on the purchase. However I note with interest that the email title says "Speaker details". But this thread has had none other than Wayne's statement of SPL. I'm curious as to the response curve. Is it flat or Communications? I'd be looking for flat as in my opinion the K3 should deliver the desired response and the SP3's job is to just make a faithful reproduction of it More technical "details" are needed 73, Bob K2TK ex KN2TKR (1956) & K2TKR On 9/15/2015 11:06 PM, Alan wrote: On 09/15/2015 07:17 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: I am truly stunned that a simple speaker could generate this much interest. :-) Considering the endless discussions of headphones and microphones, I'm not surprised. :=) Alan N1AL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
I still believe it may be possible with the K3S, KRX3 and transceivers to do Full cross band duplex. I'll look more closely after my rig is built and on the air. Makes for an expensive stand alone UHF/VHF rig tho unless you want HF too. But then it's probably overkill just to work SATs. I'll bet with the correct transverter we could hear the mars rovers tho. Jerry Moore AE4PB, K3S SN# ARRIVES TODAY!!! -Original Message- From: Andy McMullin [mailto:a...@rickham.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 7:22 AM To: Jerry Moore Cc: Jim Lowman; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details I’d be interested in that spec too! Built-in soundcard for digital modes (with one USB connection for it and rig control) would be nice as well. Regards Andy, G8TQH > On 16 Sep 2015, at 12:06, Jerry Moore wrote: > > If they did a stand alone UHF/VHF I'd suggest it have dual receivers, > cross band tx/rx capability and VFO tracking based on Doppler built in > for SAT work. > >> [deletia] >> >> My one request to Eric, last year at his presentation at Pacificon, >> was for a standalone, all-mode transceiver for 2m and above. >> My rationale was that, since Elecraft sells transverters for 2m, 220 >> MHz and >> 432 MHz, they already have the technology to make this possible. >> It came down to the fact that there may not be a large enough market >> for such a transceiver. Makes sense. >> >> 73 de Jim - AD6CW >> __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
I’d be interested in that spec too! Built-in soundcard for digital modes (with one USB connection for it and rig control) would be nice as well. Regards Andy, G8TQH > On 16 Sep 2015, at 12:06, Jerry Moore wrote: > > If they did a stand alone UHF/VHF I'd suggest it have dual receivers, cross > band tx/rx capability and VFO tracking based on Doppler built in for SAT > work. > >> [deletia] >> >> My one request to Eric, last year at his presentation at Pacificon, was for >> a standalone, all-mode transceiver for 2m and above. >> My rationale was that, since Elecraft sells transverters for 2m, 220 MHz and >> 432 MHz, they already have the technology to make this possible. >> It came down to the fact that there may not be a large enough market for >> such a transceiver. Makes sense. >> >> 73 de Jim - AD6CW >> __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
If they did a stand alone UHF/VHF I'd suggest it have dual receivers, cross band tx/rx capability and VFO tracking based on Doppler built in for SAT work. -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Lowman Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 9:48 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details We should be grateful that we are dealing with a company like Elecraft, where the principals listen to what their customers want and, wherever possible, accommodate these requests. Having a matching speaker was a requested item some time ago, if memory serves. If it's not possible for an individual to justify the cost, then the simple answer is not to buy it. My one request to Eric, last year at his presentation at Pacificon, was for a standalone, all-mode transceiver for 2m and above. My rationale was that, since Elecraft sells transverters for 2m, 220 MHz and 432 MHz, they already have the technology to make this possible. It came down to the fact that there may not be a large enough market for such a transceiver. Makes sense. 73 de Jim - AD6CW On 9/15/2015 6:46 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: > Manufacturers make those things because customers want them and buy them. 73, Guy __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to je...@carolinaheli.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
There is. Just as Henry Ford said, "You can have black or you can have black." On 9/15/2015 8:10 PM, GRANT YOUNGMAN wrote: It’s a good thing there isn’t a choice of cabinet color …. ;-) Grant NQ5T __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Hey, make note: This is the ELECRAFT reflector. On 9/15/2015 7:17 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: I am truly stunned that a simple speaker could generate this much interest. :-) 73, Fred K6DGW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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As Henry Ford reportedly said "you can have it in any color as long as it is black":-) 73, Don W3FPR On 9/15/2015 11:10 PM, GRANT YOUNGMAN wrote: It’s a good thing there isn’t a choice of cabinet color …. ;-) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
Groan. Gary -Original Message- From: "GRANT YOUNGMAN" Sent: 16/09/2015 1:11 PM To: "Elecraft Reflector" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details It’s a good thing there isn’t a choice of cabinet color …. ;-) Grant NQ5T > On Sep 15, 2015, at 10:06 PM, Alan wrote: > > On 09/15/2015 07:17 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: >> I am truly stunned that a simple speaker could generate this much >> interest. :-) > > Considering the endless discussions of headphones and microphones, I'm not > surprised. :=) > > Alan N1AL > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to vk1zzg...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
Alan, Elecraft knew I would buy the SP3 but because I finished my operating space for the k-line first I am forced to buy a P3 now so they can both sit on top of the k-3 and not get launched at the first bend in the road. Now I call THAT marketing magic. Gary -Original Message- From: "Alan" Sent: 16/09/2015 1:07 PM To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details On 09/15/2015 07:17 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: > I am truly stunned that a simple speaker could generate this much > interest. :-) Considering the endless discussions of headphones and microphones, I'm not surprised. :=) Alan N1AL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to vk1zzg...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
It’s a good thing there isn’t a choice of cabinet color …. ;-) Grant NQ5T > On Sep 15, 2015, at 10:06 PM, Alan wrote: > > On 09/15/2015 07:17 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: >> I am truly stunned that a simple speaker could generate this much >> interest. :-) > > Considering the endless discussions of headphones and microphones, I'm not > surprised. :=) > > Alan N1AL > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
On 09/15/2015 07:17 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: I am truly stunned that a simple speaker could generate this much interest. :-) Considering the endless discussions of headphones and microphones, I'm not surprised. :=) Alan N1AL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
I am truly stunned that a simple speaker could generate this much interest. :-) 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015 - www.cqp.org On 9/14/2015 9:53 PM, k...@arrl.net wrote: Or for the same price as 2 SP3's http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/speakers/1301.html 73 Jeff kb2m __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
We should be grateful that we are dealing with a company like Elecraft, where the principals listen to what their customers want and, wherever possible, accommodate these requests. Having a matching speaker was a requested item some time ago, if memory serves. If it's not possible for an individual to justify the cost, then the simple answer is not to buy it. My one request to Eric, last year at his presentation at Pacificon, was for a standalone, all-mode transceiver for 2m and above. My rationale was that, since Elecraft sells transverters for 2m, 220 MHz and 432 MHz, they already have the technology to make this possible. It came down to the fact that there may not be a large enough market for such a transceiver. Makes sense. 73 de Jim - AD6CW On 9/15/2015 6:46 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: Manufacturers make those things because customers want them and buy them. 73, Guy __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Following up on Jim w6aim's comment, a friend of mine used to design cell phones was amazed at marketing people. She says the difference in memory options, e.g., 16/32/64 GB, had an actual cost difference of US$1. But the marketing group turned it into $100 difference - and people pay. She said the engineering group incorrectly believed no one would fall for it! Regarding radio speakers, I currently use out of production Dell computer speakers, left overs from work: http://www.amazon.com/Dell-A525-Computer-Speakers-Subwoofer/dp/B000GSVPLO which are great with K3 and also listening to streaming music, youtube, etc. They cost well under $100. If pair of Elecraft speakers cost 4x as much & offer 4x as much (any specs yet?), it's a good deal. But aesthetic value is uniquely personal - which is why such a long thread! For me, Dell will likely be fine. :-) 73, Mike ab3ap On 09/15/2015 09:00 AM, Jim Bolit wrote: Cost and price are "loosely coupled". Apple products are a perfect example of this JimW6AIM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
Hi all, I like the Speaker its looks far better then the SP8 from Yaesu i am using now….., it’s for what it is a little bit expensive including tax and transport to get it to holland, it will be i think around 260 dollars, but i assume the quality wil make that right. And when the USB interface for the K3 is available it’s two for one freight costs. But my comments: First I would have liked a 3,5 mm headphone plug at the front. Some body mentioned it and it is really a good idea. Next i have seen on question about room in the case for a power supply, i do really like to investigate if it is possible to put a 25 / 30A power supply into that empty housing. Perhaps even the one that Elecraft comments and sells on it’s site SS30DV. Is it possible somebody send a picture of the unit open.. perhaps the guys at Elecraft… -- Pe1bsb William lagerberg __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Terry, KQ5U wrote: > Just because others are doing it doesn't make it right! Right? As in breaking a law or violating a bible verse or something? These things are just purchase choices. Might as well complain about wallpaper. Something done both functional and pretty. Sometimes "pretty" is very useful in the household environment, where someone (nobody named) insists on the station "looking good" or moving "that mess" to the unheated garage. A lot of matching speakers have been sold over eight decades, as in back to the 1940's matching speaker for a National NC-2-40-D and its sibling variants, which was a good looking ginormous heavy matching style boat anchor electromagnet speaker near as big as the 240D. http://www.tuberadio.com/240d/240D.html Note the matching feet. Great sound by the way, for listening to AM music broadcast. Magnet current for the electromagnet in the speaker came from the radio. Manufacturers make those things because customers want them and buy them. Just to name a few of the many more, Collins had a matching speaker for the gold dust twins and then for the S line. Heathkit's SB series had a matching speaker SB600 which could hold the power supply for an SB100/101/102 transceiver. This goes on without a break to the current day. I'm sure Wayne had a huge stack of requests to justify the business expense. He ain't building anything without a market. (We should have figured that out by now.) There's a long, long tradition very firmly behind visually matching speaker units. And then one must remember that a lot of people voted for these with their wallets. If they want to buy it, and if it ain't illegal, poisonous, explosive, or whatever dangerous, why not? To my way of thinking, it's just another thing that keeps our manufacturer profitable, and therefore still in business. I like that "still in business" thing. Means I'm still getting new development, fixes, etc. 73, Guy __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
Hello Gene, I do not want to publicize any Japanese dealer in this mail listing because I am not a radio dealer or doing any radio dealing business. The official full listed price of Icom SP23 is JPY12,800 (+VAT) IC-7600 オプション|アマチュア無線機器|アイコム株式会社 | | | | | | | | | | | IC-7600 オプション|アマチュア無線機器|アイ...SP-23 外部スピーカー 145(W)mm × 111(H)mm × 282.5(D)mm (突起物除く) \12,800+税 | | | | 查看於 www.icom.co.jp | Yahoo 預覽 | | | | | As a foreigner, we have no need to pay any VAT in Japan. Furthermore, street retail price is at a handsome discount on the official full listed price. If you want me to give your more details about ham shops in Akihabara, Tokyo, please feel free to contact me off-the-list. 73 Johnny VR2XMC 寄件人︰ Gene Gabry 收件人︰ elecraft@mailman.qth.net 傳送日期︰ 2015年09月15日 (週二) 8:46 PM 主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details Johnny, Are you sure that's not a knock off at that price? With the yen devalued, hovering around 120:1(USD), I would think it would be more expensive in Japan than what it sells for in the US. I've been to Akihabara many times, and I would tend to question its authenticity. I'll be back there this October, and will check it out. 73 Gene N9TF -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Johnny Siu Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 6:25 AM To: tmyers1...@sbcglobal.net; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details The retail price of ICOM SP23 in Akihabara, Tokyo is now about USD80. 73 Johnny VR2XMC 寄件人︰ Terry 收件人︰ elecraft@mailman.qth.net 傳送日期︰ 2015年09月15日 (週二) 7:08 PM 主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details Just because others are doing it doesn't make it right! 73, Terry, KQ5U On 9/14/2015 10:01 PM, Gene Gabry wrote: > > Very good point Tony > http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/speakers/1696.html > > Puts things into perspective :) > > 73 Gene N9TF > > K3S 10057 > >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details Have >> any of you who are complaining seen the prices of speakers from other > radio manufacturers? How about the other third-party speaker makers? >> Elecraft is in the ballpark. >> A lot of folks asked (begged, bugged, pestered...) Elecraft to come >> out > with a speaker for the line. They finally relented. Thank you, Elecraft! > >> 73, Tony K4QE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Always good prices there; of course getting there is expensive for most of us :-) Phil W7OX On 9/15/15 4:25 AM, Johnny Siu wrote: The retail price of ICOM SP23 in Akihabara, Tokyo is now about USD80. 73 Johnny VR2XMC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I’d challenge anyone to make a perfect clone of the SP3 speaker, and do it for less. Sure, a offshore company might be able to make a close copy and sell for less, but that is likely due to the abysmal compensation paid to many workers there. If you were to build an SP3 yourself, it’s not merely the cost of components and materials, but also the cost of tools (fine, if you have them already) and the time it takes to build and test it. Yes, it might be “fun” to build it, but the fact is you are paying for your labor… in time that is taken from some other enterprise. Time is money, too. And, you would have to include the time it takes to plan (engineer), gather materials, and the place where you will build it. All of those tend to be invisible costs, but they are costs. I’m sure many people would prefer to take advantage of the economies of scale, and let Elecraft make the speaker for them. Of course, everyone lives on some sort of budget, and the price of the SP3 puts it out of reach for some people. As mentioned, I think the market will decide. 73 de Ray K2ULR KX3 #211… and no need for the SP3. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Cost and price are "loosely coupled". Apple products are a perfect example of this JimW6AIM . Original message From: Mike Reublin NF4L Date: 9/14/2015 6:11 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Cliff Frescura Cc: Elecraft List Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details I can't imagine what makes it cost that much. Too rich for my anemic blood. 73, Mike NF4L > On Sep 14, 2015, at 4:24 PM, Cliff Frescura wrote: > > Didn't ask. But the web site lists the SP3 at $179 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jbol...@outlook.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Johnny, Are you sure that's not a knock off at that price? With the yen devalued, hovering around 120:1(USD), I would think it would be more expensive in Japan than what it sells for in the US. I've been to Akihabara many times, and I would tend to question its authenticity. I'll be back there this October, and will check it out. 73 Gene N9TF -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Johnny Siu Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 6:25 AM To: tmyers1...@sbcglobal.net; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details The retail price of ICOM SP23 in Akihabara, Tokyo is now about USD80. 73 Johnny VR2XMC 寄件人︰ Terry 收件人︰ elecraft@mailman.qth.net 傳送日期︰ 2015年09月15日 (週二) 7:08 PM 主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details Just because others are doing it doesn't make it right! 73, Terry, KQ5U On 9/14/2015 10:01 PM, Gene Gabry wrote: > > Very good point Tony > http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/speakers/1696.html > > Puts things into perspective :) > > 73 Gene N9TF > > K3S 10057 > >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details Have >> any of you who are complaining seen the prices of speakers from other > radio manufacturers? How about the other third-party speaker makers? >> Elecraft is in the ballpark. >> A lot of folks asked (begged, bugged, pestered...) Elecraft to come >> out > with a speaker for the line. They finally relented. Thank you, Elecraft! > >> 73, Tony K4QE > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > n...@comcast.net > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > tmyers1...@sbcglobal.net > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to vr2...@yahoo.com.hk __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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The retail price of ICOM SP23 in Akihabara, Tokyo is now about USD80. 73 Johnny VR2XMC 寄件人︰ Terry 收件人︰ elecraft@mailman.qth.net 傳送日期︰ 2015年09月15日 (週二) 7:08 PM 主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details Just because others are doing it doesn't make it right! 73, Terry, KQ5U On 9/14/2015 10:01 PM, Gene Gabry wrote: > > Very good point Tony > http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/speakers/1696.html > > Puts things into perspective :) > > 73 Gene N9TF > > K3S 10057 > >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details >> Have any of you who are complaining seen the prices of speakers from other > radio manufacturers? How about the other third-party speaker makers? >> Elecraft is in the ballpark. >> A lot of folks asked (begged, bugged, pestered...) Elecraft to come out > with a speaker for the line. They finally relented. Thank you, Elecraft! > >> 73, Tony K4QE > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to n...@comcast.net > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to tmyers1...@sbcglobal.net > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to vr2...@yahoo.com.hk __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Just because others are doing it doesn't make it right! 73, Terry, KQ5U On 9/14/2015 10:01 PM, Gene Gabry wrote: Very good point Tony http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/speakers/1696.html Puts things into perspective :) 73 Gene N9TF K3S 10057 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details Have any of you who are complaining seen the prices of speakers from other radio manufacturers? How about the other third-party speaker makers? Elecraft is in the ballpark. A lot of folks asked (begged, bugged, pestered...) Elecraft to come out with a speaker for the line. They finally relented. Thank you, Elecraft! 73, Tony K4QE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tmyers1...@sbcglobal.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details [Updated photos]
Just put a piece of PVC pipe, painted appropriately, over the bottom 6 or 8 feet of the flagpole. Vic 4X6GP/K2VCO > On Sep 15, 2015, at 6:11 AM, Fred Jensen wrote: > > OK, just curious here, how can a simple speaker with nice looking enclosure > get this much traffic on the list? I'm pretty sure it doesn't have any DSP > firmware, I don't think it has any IMD figures, and I'm very sure it doesn't > need any 8 MHz roofing filters. > > I may buy one [SO1R here], just for the looks, my KPA500 may be headed for > the auction block, I'll have a flag pole antenna, but I really don't want to > electrocute the neighbor kids or the bunnies who eat my grass. Remote to W7RN > will happen soon too. > > 73, > > Fred K6DGW > - Northern California Contest Club > - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015 > - www.cqp.org >> __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I actually owned an FTDX9000 and the matching speaker. This is just my observation, the speaker was a disappointment, BUT, the 9000's internal speakers were excellent. Amazing quality noticed by my really not good hearing as well as Tinitus. I have now moved to headphones for serious operating, casual use I find the newly upgraded audio on my k3 pretty good. Gary -Original Message- From: "k...@arrl.net" Sent: 15/09/2015 2:54 PM To: "'Elecraft Reflector'" Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details Or for the same price as 2 SP3's http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/speakers/1301.html 73 Jeff kb2m __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to vk1zzg...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Or for the same price as 2 SP3's http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/speakers/1301.html 73 Jeff kb2m __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Johnny, It will (as it should) carry the stigma of being a copy from a serial offender and it may indeed be adequate in performance for many, but it would never carry the reputation of quality that comes from being a genuine Elecraft product. The market will decide how well the SP3 is accepted just as the market will decide on any alternative offerings from other manufacturers. Some if not many of us will choose the SP3, over any alternative, others will make their own choice. It's a free world (up to a point) I choose Elecraft. I borrowed 2cents to throw in here. Our dollar has sunk so low I need a submarine to find it. Gary -Original Message- From: "Johnny Siu" Sent: 15/09/2015 1:43 PM To: "Doug Person" ; "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details With my due respect to intellectual right, I would feel this price tag will trigger a Chinese variant at 1/3 price with similar appearance but unknown quality. 73 Johnny VR2XMC 寄件人︰ Doug Person via Elecraft 收件人︰ elecraft@mailman.qth.net 傳送日期︰ 2015年09月15日 (週二) 10:15 AM 主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details I have to admit that I, too, find $179 for a passive speaker in a metal cabinet shockingly expensive. I was expecting $99. The price just gets a shrug and an "Oh well.." from me. Not a chance I would spend that kind of money on a speaker just because it matches the K-Line. Doug -- K0DXV On 9/14/2015 5:42 PM, Mike Reublin NF4L wrote: > Not even at half that. Maybe it's a misplaced decimal punkt. . . . . . > > 73, Mike NF4L > > >> On Sep 14, 2015, at 7:24 PM, mfsj wrote: >> >> OMG OM cheap at twice the price 8>) >> >> Fred/N0AZZ > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k0...@aol.com > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to vr2...@yahoo.com.hk __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to vk1zzg...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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With my due respect to intellectual right, I would feel this price tag will trigger a Chinese variant at 1/3 price with similar appearance but unknown quality. 73 Johnny VR2XMC 寄件人︰ Doug Person via Elecraft 收件人︰ elecraft@mailman.qth.net 傳送日期︰ 2015年09月15日 (週二) 10:15 AM 主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details I have to admit that I, too, find $179 for a passive speaker in a metal cabinet shockingly expensive. I was expecting $99. The price just gets a shrug and an "Oh well.." from me. Not a chance I would spend that kind of money on a speaker just because it matches the K-Line. Doug -- K0DXV On 9/14/2015 5:42 PM, Mike Reublin NF4L wrote: > Not even at half that. Maybe it's a misplaced decimal punkt. . . . . . > > 73, Mike NF4L > > >> On Sep 14, 2015, at 7:24 PM, mfsj wrote: >> >> OMG OM cheap at twice the price 8>) >> >> Fred/N0AZZ > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k0...@aol.com > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to vr2...@yahoo.com.hk __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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How about this one: http://www.hamradio.com/detail.cfm?pid=H0-011764#results Of note, I've never used the passive audio filters on this or the SP-20. '73 de JIM N2ZZ -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gene Gabry Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 11:01 PM To: 'Elecraft Reflector' Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details Very good point Tony http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/speakers/1696.html Puts things into perspective :) 73 Gene N9TF K3S 10057 >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details >Have any of you who are complaining seen the prices of speakers from >other radio manufacturers? How about the other third-party speaker makers? >Elecraft is in the ballpark. >A lot of folks asked (begged, bugged, pestered...) Elecraft to come out with a speaker for the line. They finally relented. Thank you, Elecraft! >73, Tony K4QE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jboehne...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details [Updated photos]
Honestly, I’d keep the KPA500 just to take out the occasional raccoon. wunder K6WRU CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Sep 14, 2015, at 8:11 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: > > OK, just curious here, how can a simple speaker with nice looking enclosure > get this much traffic on the list? I'm pretty sure it doesn't have any DSP > firmware, I don't think it has any IMD figures, and I'm very sure it doesn't > need any 8 MHz roofing filters. > > I may buy one [SO1R here], just for the looks, my KPA500 may be headed for > the auction block, I'll have a flag pole antenna, but I really don't want to > electrocute the neighbor kids or the bunnies who eat my grass. Remote to W7RN > will happen soon too. > > 73, > > Fred K6DGW > - Northern California Contest Club > - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015 > - www.cqp.org > > On 9/14/2015 7:44 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote: >> Looks sharp, Looks like I need to make a little more room on the desk >> >> > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details [Updated photos]
OK, just curious here, how can a simple speaker with nice looking enclosure get this much traffic on the list? I'm pretty sure it doesn't have any DSP firmware, I don't think it has any IMD figures, and I'm very sure it doesn't need any 8 MHz roofing filters. I may buy one [SO1R here], just for the looks, my KPA500 may be headed for the auction block, I'll have a flag pole antenna, but I really don't want to electrocute the neighbor kids or the bunnies who eat my grass. Remote to W7RN will happen soon too. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015 - www.cqp.org On 9/14/2015 7:44 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote: Looks sharp, Looks like I need to make a little more room on the desk __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
Very good point Tony http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/speakers/1696.html Puts things into perspective :) 73 Gene N9TF K3S 10057 >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details >Have any of you who are complaining seen the prices of speakers from other radio manufacturers? How about the other third-party speaker makers? >Elecraft is in the ballpark. >A lot of folks asked (begged, bugged, pestered...) Elecraft to come out with a speaker for the line. They finally relented. Thank you, Elecraft! >73, Tony K4QE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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This happens nearly every time Elecraft releases a new product. To me it honestly appears to be a case of sour grapes. As I view it God bless them and good for them that they can make a quality product and a living for them and their staff. I believe that Elecrafts products are quite fair priced (especially considering the quality of service). I try to buy US when possible even in my other hobbies and yes it tends to cost a little more to get a better product and service. From: Anthony Scandurra To: Cc: Elecraft Reflector Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details Have any of you who are complaining seen the prices of speakers from other radio manufacturers? How about the other third-party speaker makers? Elecraft is in the ballpark. A lot of folks asked (begged, bugged, pestered...) Elecraft to come out with a speaker for the line. They finally relented. Thank you, Elecraft! 73, Tony K4QE __ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details [Updated photos]
Looks sharp, Looks like I need to make a little more room on the desk From: Wayne Burdick To: elecraft...@yahoogroups.com Cc: Elecraft Reflector Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details [Updated photos] Here are two much better photos of the SP3: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/sp3_2a.jpg http://www.elecraft.com/K3/sp3_1a.jpg 73, Wayne N6KR _ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Amen, Tony. My sentiments exactly. Gary -Original Message- From: "Anthony Scandurra" Sent: 15/09/2015 12:43 PM Cc: "Elecraft Reflector" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details Have any of you who are complaining seen the prices of speakers from other radio manufacturers? How about the other third-party speaker makers? Elecraft is in the ballpark. A lot of folks asked (begged, bugged, pestered...) Elecraft to come out with a speaker for the line. They finally relented. Thank you, Elecraft! 73, Tony K4QE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to vk1zzg...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Have any of you who are complaining seen the prices of speakers from other radio manufacturers? How about the other third-party speaker makers? Elecraft is in the ballpark. A lot of folks asked (begged, bugged, pestered...) Elecraft to come out with a speaker for the line. They finally relented. Thank you, Elecraft! 73, Tony K4QE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I have to admit that I, too, find $179 for a passive speaker in a metal cabinet shockingly expensive. I was expecting $99. The price just gets a shrug and an "Oh well.." from me. Not a chance I would spend that kind of money on a speaker just because it matches the K-Line. Doug -- K0DXV On 9/14/2015 5:42 PM, Mike Reublin NF4L wrote: Not even at half that. Maybe it's a misplaced decimal punkt. . . . . . 73, Mike NF4L On Sep 14, 2015, at 7:24 PM, mfsj wrote: OMG OM cheap at twice the price 8>) Fred/N0AZZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k0...@aol.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details [Updated photos]
Here are two much better photos of the SP3: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/sp3_2a.jpg http://www.elecraft.com/K3/sp3_1a.jpg 73, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Yes, the SP3 is made in California, as are all of our radios. 73, Eric /elecraft.com/ On 9/14/2015 9:02 AM, a...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Jerry's (AE4PB) post and others suggest new speaker is actually made in the USA. Is that true?? Mike AC5P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Not even at half that. Maybe it's a misplaced decimal punkt. . . . . . 73, Mike NF4L > On Sep 14, 2015, at 7:24 PM, mfsj wrote: > > OMG OM cheap at twice the price 8>) > > Fred/N0AZZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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OMG OM cheap at twice the price 8>) Fred/N0AZZ Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S6 edge+, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Mike Reublin NF4L Date: 09/14/2015 6:11 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Cliff Frescura Cc: Elecraft List Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details I can't imagine what makes it cost that much. Too rich for my anemic blood. 73, Mike NF4L > On Sep 14, 2015, at 4:24 PM, Cliff Frescura wrote: > > Didn't ask. But the web site lists the SP3 at $179 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to m...@totalhighspeed.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I can't imagine what makes it cost that much. Too rich for my anemic blood. 73, Mike NF4L > On Sep 14, 2015, at 4:24 PM, Cliff Frescura wrote: > > Didn't ask. But the web site lists the SP3 at $179 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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$179.95 is what I paid at the convention - times two. 73 de Jim - AD6CW On 9/14/2015 1:06 PM, Brian & Cyndi wrote: Did the boys at HamCon quote a price for the speaker? 73, Brian, W6FVI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Didn't ask. But the web site lists the SP3 at $179 -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Brian & Cyndi Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 1:06 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details Did the boys at HamCon quote a price for the speaker? 73, Brian, W6FVI On 9/14/2015 11:51 AM, Cliff Frescura wrote: > I don't know where it is made, but I was able to see one in the flesh > at HamCon this past weekend and it has a solid feel and weight to it > (in addition to sounding great too). Seems like a no brainer addition to me. > > One wish would be to have the headphone jack on the speaker and use > the input switch (as an output switch) to switch between headphone and > speaker, so that the headphones can stay plugged in (I modified my > SP-940 to work this way) > > 73, > > Cliff K3LL/6 > > -Original Message- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of > ae...@carolinaheli.com > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 10:39 AM > To: a...@sbcglobal.net; ae...@carolinaheli.com; 'Bob McGraw - K4TAX'; > 'Wayne Burdick'; 'Elecraft Reflector' > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details > > I guess I shouldn't have assumed anything but I did.. > > > -Original Message- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of > a...@sbcglobal.net > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 12:03 PM > To: ae...@carolinaheli.com; 'Bob McGraw - K4TAX'; 'Wayne Burdick'; > 'Elecraft Reflector' > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details > > Jerry's (AE4PB) post and others suggest new speaker is actually made > in the USA. Is that true?? > Mike AC5P > > > On Monday, September 14, 2015 10:34 AM, "ae...@carolinaheli.com" > wrote: > > > I believe when you consider the engineering reputation of Elecraft > and economies of scale for the manufacture of the SP3 several > expectations > arise: > 1. This is likely a very well-engineered component that's not easily > replaced by a similar sized speaker. > 2. Performance of the speaker exceeds similarly priced speakers (and > definitely less expensive ones to a degree). > 3. There is NOT likely a premium baked in to the price for the > Elecraft name due to the economies of scale (low quantity manufacture > generally means higher costs, thus higher price). Translation - the > price isn't just for the name. > > At the end of the day consider the labor costs plus parts are likely > fairly high if they are US manufactured. > > The US consumer is the sole reason most US manufacturing has gone > overseas (especially China). Buy cheap, get cheap. > > So it comes down to a question of quality vs "good enough" vs "price" > > I can only speak for myself in saying that it means something to have > a matching set rather than a hodgepodge. > I do compromise and use what I have to be able to get the job done > UNTIL I've saved enough for the next piece. > > Personally the SP3 is last on my list because most if not all of my > operating will be with headphones. > The point here is that it's on my list :) > > > > Jerry Moore > AE4PB, K3S SN# Arrives Wed. > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of > Bob McGraw - K4TAX > Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 3:28 PM > To: Wayne Burdick; Elecraft Reflector > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details > > New products are always welcome. I look forward to "hearing them" at > maybe one of the next ham fests. I like the fact the SP3 uses an oval speaker. > I've never figured out exactly why, but I find ovals typically do > sound better than rounds, but maybe it seems to be only in my findings. > > As a comment, I prefer non-amplified speakers as this avoids the > potential RFI issues when used with the radio. The model that I > mentioned and use has a slight tilt to the bottom which aligns the > front with the K3S with its front elevated by the stand. > > I also find the audio system in the K3S to be really nice, specially > the > 2 channel effect using the AFX feature along with a stereo speaker > configuration. This give a nice wide spatial effect to which I find > very pleasing. Thanks Wayne and company for doing a fine job with the > K3S and its new features. > > 73 > Bob, K4TAX > K3S s/n 10,163 > > On 9/13/2015 2:09 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: >> Hi al
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
Did the boys at HamCon quote a price for the speaker? 73, Brian, W6FVI On 9/14/2015 11:51 AM, Cliff Frescura wrote: I don't know where it is made, but I was able to see one in the flesh at HamCon this past weekend and it has a solid feel and weight to it (in addition to sounding great too). Seems like a no brainer addition to me. One wish would be to have the headphone jack on the speaker and use the input switch (as an output switch) to switch between headphone and speaker, so that the headphones can stay plugged in (I modified my SP-940 to work this way) 73, Cliff K3LL/6 -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of ae...@carolinaheli.com Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 10:39 AM To: a...@sbcglobal.net; ae...@carolinaheli.com; 'Bob McGraw - K4TAX'; 'Wayne Burdick'; 'Elecraft Reflector' Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details I guess I shouldn't have assumed anything but I did.. -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of a...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 12:03 PM To: ae...@carolinaheli.com; 'Bob McGraw - K4TAX'; 'Wayne Burdick'; 'Elecraft Reflector' Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details Jerry's (AE4PB) post and others suggest new speaker is actually made in the USA. Is that true?? Mike AC5P On Monday, September 14, 2015 10:34 AM, "ae...@carolinaheli.com" wrote: I believe when you consider the engineering reputation of Elecraft and economies of scale for the manufacture of the SP3 several expectations arise: 1. This is likely a very well-engineered component that's not easily replaced by a similar sized speaker. 2. Performance of the speaker exceeds similarly priced speakers (and definitely less expensive ones to a degree). 3. There is NOT likely a premium baked in to the price for the Elecraft name due to the economies of scale (low quantity manufacture generally means higher costs, thus higher price). Translation - the price isn't just for the name. At the end of the day consider the labor costs plus parts are likely fairly high if they are US manufactured. The US consumer is the sole reason most US manufacturing has gone overseas (especially China). Buy cheap, get cheap. So it comes down to a question of quality vs "good enough" vs "price" I can only speak for myself in saying that it means something to have a matching set rather than a hodgepodge. I do compromise and use what I have to be able to get the job done UNTIL I've saved enough for the next piece. Personally the SP3 is last on my list because most if not all of my operating will be with headphones. The point here is that it's on my list :) Jerry Moore AE4PB, K3S SN# Arrives Wed. -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob McGraw - K4TAX Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 3:28 PM To: Wayne Burdick; Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details New products are always welcome. I look forward to "hearing them" at maybe one of the next ham fests. I like the fact the SP3 uses an oval speaker. I've never figured out exactly why, but I find ovals typically do sound better than rounds, but maybe it seems to be only in my findings. As a comment, I prefer non-amplified speakers as this avoids the potential RFI issues when used with the radio. The model that I mentioned and use has a slight tilt to the bottom which aligns the front with the K3S with its front elevated by the stand. I also find the audio system in the K3S to be really nice, specially the 2 channel effect using the AFX feature along with a stereo speaker configuration. This give a nice wide spatial effect to which I find very pleasing. Thanks Wayne and company for doing a fine job with the K3S and its new features. 73 Bob, K4TAX K3S s/n 10,163 On 9/13/2015 2:09 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Hi all, The K3 or K3S will work with a wide range of speakers, including the ones Bob (K4TAX) mentioned. Here are some possible reasons for using an SP3: - matches the K-Line perfectly, including a rugged fold-up tilt stand - full stereo A/B source selection, supporting dual-rig and dual-speaker configurations (or both) - plenty of room inside the cabinet for built-ins that might improve station integration Of course these factors don't apply to everyone. But the good news is that we will no longer have to say "maybe next year" every time someone asks us to add a matching speaker to the product line :) 73, Wayne N6KR Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote: I use a pair of "off the shelf" brand speakers which have 2" x 4" ovals in a nice efficient solid enclosure that is 5" deep
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I'll leave that question to Eric, but in his presentation on Saturday he did go into detail about the *American* firms that Elecraft uses when outsourcing is necessary. 73 de Jim - AD6CW On 9/14/2015 9:02 AM, a...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Jerry's (AE4PB) post and others suggest new speaker is actually made in the USA. Is that true?? Mike AC5P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I don't know where it is made, but I was able to see one in the flesh at HamCon this past weekend and it has a solid feel and weight to it (in addition to sounding great too). Seems like a no brainer addition to me. One wish would be to have the headphone jack on the speaker and use the input switch (as an output switch) to switch between headphone and speaker, so that the headphones can stay plugged in (I modified my SP-940 to work this way) 73, Cliff K3LL/6 -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of ae...@carolinaheli.com Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 10:39 AM To: a...@sbcglobal.net; ae...@carolinaheli.com; 'Bob McGraw - K4TAX'; 'Wayne Burdick'; 'Elecraft Reflector' Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details I guess I shouldn't have assumed anything but I did.. -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of a...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 12:03 PM To: ae...@carolinaheli.com; 'Bob McGraw - K4TAX'; 'Wayne Burdick'; 'Elecraft Reflector' Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details Jerry's (AE4PB) post and others suggest new speaker is actually made in the USA. Is that true?? Mike AC5P On Monday, September 14, 2015 10:34 AM, "ae...@carolinaheli.com" wrote: I believe when you consider the engineering reputation of Elecraft and economies of scale for the manufacture of the SP3 several expectations arise: 1. This is likely a very well-engineered component that's not easily replaced by a similar sized speaker. 2. Performance of the speaker exceeds similarly priced speakers (and definitely less expensive ones to a degree). 3. There is NOT likely a premium baked in to the price for the Elecraft name due to the economies of scale (low quantity manufacture generally means higher costs, thus higher price). Translation - the price isn't just for the name. At the end of the day consider the labor costs plus parts are likely fairly high if they are US manufactured. The US consumer is the sole reason most US manufacturing has gone overseas (especially China). Buy cheap, get cheap. So it comes down to a question of quality vs "good enough" vs "price" I can only speak for myself in saying that it means something to have a matching set rather than a hodgepodge. I do compromise and use what I have to be able to get the job done UNTIL I've saved enough for the next piece. Personally the SP3 is last on my list because most if not all of my operating will be with headphones. The point here is that it's on my list :) Jerry Moore AE4PB, K3S SN# Arrives Wed. -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob McGraw - K4TAX Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 3:28 PM To: Wayne Burdick; Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details New products are always welcome. I look forward to "hearing them" at maybe one of the next ham fests. I like the fact the SP3 uses an oval speaker. I've never figured out exactly why, but I find ovals typically do sound better than rounds, but maybe it seems to be only in my findings. As a comment, I prefer non-amplified speakers as this avoids the potential RFI issues when used with the radio. The model that I mentioned and use has a slight tilt to the bottom which aligns the front with the K3S with its front elevated by the stand. I also find the audio system in the K3S to be really nice, specially the 2 channel effect using the AFX feature along with a stereo speaker configuration. This give a nice wide spatial effect to which I find very pleasing. Thanks Wayne and company for doing a fine job with the K3S and its new features. 73 Bob, K4TAX K3S s/n 10,163 On 9/13/2015 2:09 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > Hi all, > > The K3 or K3S will work with a wide range of speakers, including the > ones Bob (K4TAX) mentioned. > > Here are some possible reasons for using an SP3: > > - matches the K-Line perfectly, including a rugged fold-up tilt stand > - full stereo A/B source selection, supporting dual-rig and > dual-speaker configurations (or both) > - plenty of room inside the cabinet for built-ins that might improve > station integration > > Of course these factors don't apply to everyone. But the good news is > that we will no longer have to say "maybe next year" every time > someone asks us to add a matching speaker to the product line :) > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > > Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote: > >> I use a pair of "off the shelf" brand speakers which have 2" x 4" >> ovals in a nice efficient solid enclosure that is 5" deep > > > &g
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
Jer, The information I have is that it is indeed manufactured in California. Components (jacks, switches, etc.) are sourced worldwide. 73, Don W3FPR On 9/14/2015 1:38 PM, ae...@carolinaheli.com wrote: I guess I shouldn't have assumed anything but I did.. -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of a...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 12:03 PM To: ae...@carolinaheli.com; 'Bob McGraw - K4TAX'; 'Wayne Burdick'; 'Elecraft Reflector' Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details Jerry's (AE4PB) post and others suggest new speaker is actually made in the USA. Is that true?? Mike AC5P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I guess I shouldn't have assumed anything but I did.. -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of a...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 12:03 PM To: ae...@carolinaheli.com; 'Bob McGraw - K4TAX'; 'Wayne Burdick'; 'Elecraft Reflector' Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details Jerry's (AE4PB) post and others suggest new speaker is actually made in the USA. Is that true?? Mike AC5P On Monday, September 14, 2015 10:34 AM, "ae...@carolinaheli.com" wrote: I believe when you consider the engineering reputation of Elecraft and economies of scale for the manufacture of the SP3 several expectations arise: 1. This is likely a very well-engineered component that's not easily replaced by a similar sized speaker. 2. Performance of the speaker exceeds similarly priced speakers (and definitely less expensive ones to a degree). 3. There is NOT likely a premium baked in to the price for the Elecraft name due to the economies of scale (low quantity manufacture generally means higher costs, thus higher price). Translation - the price isn't just for the name. At the end of the day consider the labor costs plus parts are likely fairly high if they are US manufactured. The US consumer is the sole reason most US manufacturing has gone overseas (especially China). Buy cheap, get cheap. So it comes down to a question of quality vs "good enough" vs "price" I can only speak for myself in saying that it means something to have a matching set rather than a hodgepodge. I do compromise and use what I have to be able to get the job done UNTIL I've saved enough for the next piece. Personally the SP3 is last on my list because most if not all of my operating will be with headphones. The point here is that it's on my list :) Jerry Moore AE4PB, K3S SN# Arrives Wed. -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob McGraw - K4TAX Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 3:28 PM To: Wayne Burdick; Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details New products are always welcome. I look forward to "hearing them" at maybe one of the next ham fests. I like the fact the SP3 uses an oval speaker. I've never figured out exactly why, but I find ovals typically do sound better than rounds, but maybe it seems to be only in my findings. As a comment, I prefer non-amplified speakers as this avoids the potential RFI issues when used with the radio. The model that I mentioned and use has a slight tilt to the bottom which aligns the front with the K3S with its front elevated by the stand. I also find the audio system in the K3S to be really nice, specially the 2 channel effect using the AFX feature along with a stereo speaker configuration. This give a nice wide spatial effect to which I find very pleasing. Thanks Wayne and company for doing a fine job with the K3S and its new features. 73 Bob, K4TAX K3S s/n 10,163 On 9/13/2015 2:09 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > Hi all, > > The K3 or K3S will work with a wide range of speakers, including the > ones Bob (K4TAX) mentioned. > > Here are some possible reasons for using an SP3: > > - matches the K-Line perfectly, including a rugged fold-up tilt stand > - full stereo A/B source selection, supporting dual-rig and > dual-speaker configurations (or both) > - plenty of room inside the cabinet for built-ins that might improve > station integration > > Of course these factors don't apply to everyone. But the good news is > that we will no longer have to say "maybe next year" every time > someone asks us to add a matching speaker to the product line :) > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > > Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote: > >> I use a pair of "off the shelf" brand speakers which have 2" x 4" >> ovals in a nice efficient solid enclosure that is 5" deep > > > > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to je...@carolinaheli.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to a...@sbcglobal.net ___
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
Jerry's (AE4PB) post and others suggest new speaker is actually made in the USA. Is that true?? Mike AC5P On Monday, September 14, 2015 10:34 AM, "ae...@carolinaheli.com" wrote: I believe when you consider the engineering reputation of Elecraft and economies of scale for the manufacture of the SP3 several expectations arise: 1. This is likely a very well-engineered component that's not easily replaced by a similar sized speaker. 2. Performance of the speaker exceeds similarly priced speakers (and definitely less expensive ones to a degree). 3. There is NOT likely a premium baked in to the price for the Elecraft name due to the economies of scale (low quantity manufacture generally means higher costs, thus higher price). Translation - the price isn't just for the name. At the end of the day consider the labor costs plus parts are likely fairly high if they are US manufactured. The US consumer is the sole reason most US manufacturing has gone overseas (especially China). Buy cheap, get cheap. So it comes down to a question of quality vs "good enough" vs "price" I can only speak for myself in saying that it means something to have a matching set rather than a hodgepodge. I do compromise and use what I have to be able to get the job done UNTIL I've saved enough for the next piece. Personally the SP3 is last on my list because most if not all of my operating will be with headphones. The point here is that it's on my list :) Jerry Moore AE4PB, K3S SN# Arrives Wed. -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob McGraw - K4TAX Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 3:28 PM To: Wayne Burdick; Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details New products are always welcome. I look forward to "hearing them" at maybe one of the next ham fests. I like the fact the SP3 uses an oval speaker. I've never figured out exactly why, but I find ovals typically do sound better than rounds, but maybe it seems to be only in my findings. As a comment, I prefer non-amplified speakers as this avoids the potential RFI issues when used with the radio. The model that I mentioned and use has a slight tilt to the bottom which aligns the front with the K3S with its front elevated by the stand. I also find the audio system in the K3S to be really nice, specially the 2 channel effect using the AFX feature along with a stereo speaker configuration. This give a nice wide spatial effect to which I find very pleasing. Thanks Wayne and company for doing a fine job with the K3S and its new features. 73 Bob, K4TAX K3S s/n 10,163 On 9/13/2015 2:09 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > Hi all, > > The K3 or K3S will work with a wide range of speakers, including the ones Bob (K4TAX) mentioned. > > Here are some possible reasons for using an SP3: > > - matches the K-Line perfectly, including a rugged fold-up tilt stand > - full stereo A/B source selection, supporting dual-rig and > dual-speaker configurations (or both) > - plenty of room inside the cabinet for built-ins that might improve > station integration > > Of course these factors don't apply to everyone. But the good news is > that we will no longer have to say "maybe next year" every time > someone asks us to add a matching speaker to the product line :) > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > > Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote: > >> I use a pair of "off the shelf" brand speakers which have 2" x 4" ovals in a nice efficient solid enclosure that is 5" deep > > > > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to je...@carolinaheli.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to a...@sbcglobal.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
I believe when you consider the engineering reputation of Elecraft and economies of scale for the manufacture of the SP3 several expectations arise: 1. This is likely a very well-engineered component that's not easily replaced by a similar sized speaker. 2. Performance of the speaker exceeds similarly priced speakers (and definitely less expensive ones to a degree). 3. There is NOT likely a premium baked in to the price for the Elecraft name due to the economies of scale (low quantity manufacture generally means higher costs, thus higher price). Translation - the price isn't just for the name. At the end of the day consider the labor costs plus parts are likely fairly high if they are US manufactured. The US consumer is the sole reason most US manufacturing has gone overseas (especially China). Buy cheap, get cheap. So it comes down to a question of quality vs "good enough" vs "price" I can only speak for myself in saying that it means something to have a matching set rather than a hodgepodge. I do compromise and use what I have to be able to get the job done UNTIL I've saved enough for the next piece. Personally the SP3 is last on my list because most if not all of my operating will be with headphones. The point here is that it's on my list :) Jerry Moore AE4PB, K3S SN# Arrives Wed. -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob McGraw - K4TAX Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 3:28 PM To: Wayne Burdick; Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details New products are always welcome. I look forward to "hearing them" at maybe one of the next ham fests. I like the fact the SP3 uses an oval speaker. I've never figured out exactly why, but I find ovals typically do sound better than rounds, but maybe it seems to be only in my findings. As a comment, I prefer non-amplified speakers as this avoids the potential RFI issues when used with the radio. The model that I mentioned and use has a slight tilt to the bottom which aligns the front with the K3S with its front elevated by the stand. I also find the audio system in the K3S to be really nice, specially the 2 channel effect using the AFX feature along with a stereo speaker configuration. This give a nice wide spatial effect to which I find very pleasing. Thanks Wayne and company for doing a fine job with the K3S and its new features. 73 Bob, K4TAX K3S s/n 10,163 On 9/13/2015 2:09 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > Hi all, > > The K3 or K3S will work with a wide range of speakers, including the ones Bob (K4TAX) mentioned. > > Here are some possible reasons for using an SP3: > > - matches the K-Line perfectly, including a rugged fold-up tilt stand > - full stereo A/B source selection, supporting dual-rig and > dual-speaker configurations (or both) > - plenty of room inside the cabinet for built-ins that might improve > station integration > > Of course these factors don't apply to everyone. But the good news is > that we will no longer have to say "maybe next year" every time > someone asks us to add a matching speaker to the product line :) > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > > Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote: > >> I use a pair of "off the shelf" brand speakers which have 2" x 4" ovals in a nice efficient solid enclosure that is 5" deep > > > > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to je...@carolinaheli.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
>I also find the audio system in the K3S to be really nice, specially the >2 channel effect using the AFX feature along with a stereo speaker configuration. This give a nice wide spatial effect to which I find very pleasing. >Thanks Wayne and company for doing a fine job with the K3S and its new features. >73 Bob, K4TAX For me, the AFX option was a real "WOW" experience. Over the years I have been finding I have to turn my head back and forth listening to CW from a single communications speaker, in order to find the right frequency peak in my (failing) ears. With stereo configured speakers and AFX on, no more head turning, and the sound is crisp. What a joy on SSB as well, especially listening ESSB. 73 Gene N9TF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
New products are always welcome. I look forward to "hearing them" at maybe one of the next ham fests. I like the fact the SP3 uses an oval speaker. I've never figured out exactly why, but I find ovals typically do sound better than rounds, but maybe it seems to be only in my findings. As a comment, I prefer non-amplified speakers as this avoids the potential RFI issues when used with the radio. The model that I mentioned and use has a slight tilt to the bottom which aligns the front with the K3S with its front elevated by the stand. I also find the audio system in the K3S to be really nice, specially the 2 channel effect using the AFX feature along with a stereo speaker configuration. This give a nice wide spatial effect to which I find very pleasing. Thanks Wayne and company for doing a fine job with the K3S and its new features. 73 Bob, K4TAX K3S s/n 10,163 On 9/13/2015 2:09 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Hi all, The K3 or K3S will work with a wide range of speakers, including the ones Bob (K4TAX) mentioned. Here are some possible reasons for using an SP3: - matches the K-Line perfectly, including a rugged fold-up tilt stand - full stereo A/B source selection, supporting dual-rig and dual-speaker configurations (or both) - plenty of room inside the cabinet for built-ins that might improve station integration Of course these factors don't apply to everyone. But the good news is that we will no longer have to say "maybe next year" every time someone asks us to add a matching speaker to the product line :) 73, Wayne N6KR Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote: I use a pair of "off the shelf" brand speakers which have 2" x 4" ovals in a nice efficient solid enclosure that is 5" deep __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
You are right about that. The only part of the Kenwood "520 Line" my Dad didn't get was the SP-520. He thought $50 bucks for a speaker to match his $600 radio was excessive. I have the set now and am looking for an SP-520 to finish it off. $70 minimum for a 40 year old SP-520. The thing appreciated in value. On 9/12/2015 4:35 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Hams have historically paid big bucks for speakers that match their rigs. 73, Don W3FPR -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ARRL FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
I've thought of making my own. I can't bend sheet steel or even aluminum in such narrow cross section but some 1 1/2" aluminum channel should work for the front and back panels. Everything else is flat stock. The sharp edges on the channel could be dressed by filing. I'd probably try it on a router table with a carbide round over bit for better precision. I haven't done this before but I've successfully cut aluminum plate on a table saw. I would assemble the plates using bar stock and screws like I did 30 years ago when I was building amplifiers. For example: http://sadxa.org/n7ws/Left%20Interior%20View.jpg Sort of like Elecraft's "2D" fasteners. On 9/12/2015 7:46 PM, Gary wrote: Me too. I suppose I could just get another kat500 for Ant. 2, but I don't have 6 antennas. Anyone done this? Gary -Original Message- From: "Wes (N7WS)" Sent: 13/09/2015 12:28 PM To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details I'd love to have an (unpunched) KAT500 enclosure. I have some misc stuff that could mount in one and it would get the K3 to the same height as the KAT500/KPA500 combo. Maybe a new product line? On 9/12/2015 5:33 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: We don't have any current plan to offer the enclosure by itself. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to vk1zzg...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w...@triconet.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
Me too. I suppose I could just get another kat500 for Ant. 2, but I don't have 6 antennas. Anyone done this? Gary -Original Message- From: "Wes (N7WS)" Sent: 13/09/2015 12:28 PM To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details I'd love to have an (unpunched) KAT500 enclosure. I have some misc stuff that could mount in one and it would get the K3 to the same height as the KAT500/KPA500 combo. Maybe a new product line? On 9/12/2015 5:33 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > We don't have any current plan to offer the enclosure by itself. > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to vk1zzg...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
I'd love to have an (unpunched) KAT500 enclosure. I have some misc stuff that could mount in one and it would get the K3 to the same height as the KAT500/KPA500 combo. Maybe a new product line? On 9/12/2015 5:33 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: We don't have any current plan to offer the enclosure by itself. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
Wouldn't putting something inside the enclosure change the acoustic properties? I'd seem to think so. 73 Bob, K4TAX K3S s/n 10,163 On 9/12/2015 7:44 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Marc, The SP3 is so solid you could park a truck on it. It might even be EMP-proof, but we don't have adequate test equipment to determine this. So...good place to stick a battery or power supply. But if there's any risk of it getting too hot inside, add some ventilation holes and possibly a fan. Wayne N6KR On Sep 12, 2015, at 5:40 PM, Marc Veeneman wrote: You might consider it. I'd love to hide my LiFePO4 pack and the PowerWerx power supply inside one. My PowerWerx V/A display just died anyway, no reason to have it visible anymore. -- Marc W8SDG On Sep 12, 2015, at 8:33 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: We don't have any current plan to offer the enclosure by itself. 73, Wayne N6KR On Sep 12, 2015, at 5:28 PM, "Richard W. Solomon" wrote: Would it be possible to buy just the enclosure ? It is said the P3 and the SP3 are the same size. 73, Dick, W1KSZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rmcg...@blomand.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
Wayne, you know we need 2 of these things to handle pileups with split. One for the battery (no heat) and one for the PS ($13 fan from Amazon). I hope there's a "Buy one, get second for XX%" deal coming to the price list. And for the KX3? Same 2-speaker need, but in a smaller form factor. Again, I hope we see a BOGO price structure -- as soon as the SPX3 is ready to ship. :-) -- Marc W8SDG > On Sep 12, 2015, at 8:44 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > Marc, > > The SP3 is so solid you could park a truck on it. It might even be EMP-proof, > but we don't have adequate test equipment to determine this. > > So...good place to stick a battery or power supply. But if there's any risk > of it getting too hot inside, add some ventilation holes and possibly a fan. > > Wayne > N6KR > > >> On Sep 12, 2015, at 5:40 PM, Marc Veeneman wrote: >> >> You might consider it. I'd love to hide my LiFePO4 pack and the PowerWerx >> power supply inside one. My PowerWerx V/A display just died anyway, no >> reason to have it visible anymore. >> -- >> Marc W8SDG >> >> >>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 8:33 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: >>> >>> We don't have any current plan to offer the enclosure by itself. >>> >>> 73, >>> Wayne >>> N6KR >>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 5:28 PM, "Richard W. Solomon" wrote: Would it be possible to buy just the enclosure ? It is said the P3 and the SP3 are the same size. 73, Dick, W1KSZ > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
Marc, The SP3 is so solid you could park a truck on it. It might even be EMP-proof, but we don't have adequate test equipment to determine this. So...good place to stick a battery or power supply. But if there's any risk of it getting too hot inside, add some ventilation holes and possibly a fan. Wayne N6KR On Sep 12, 2015, at 5:40 PM, Marc Veeneman wrote: > You might consider it. I'd love to hide my LiFePO4 pack and the PowerWerx > power supply inside one. My PowerWerx V/A display just died anyway, no > reason to have it visible anymore. > -- > Marc W8SDG > > >> On Sep 12, 2015, at 8:33 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: >> >> We don't have any current plan to offer the enclosure by itself. >> >> 73, >> Wayne >> N6KR >> >>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 5:28 PM, "Richard W. Solomon" >>> wrote: >>> >>> Would it be possible to buy just the enclosure ? >>> It is said the P3 and the SP3 are the same size. >>> >>> 73, Dick, W1KSZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
You might consider it. I'd love to hide my LiFePO4 pack and the PowerWerx power supply inside one. My PowerWerx V/A display just died anyway, no reason to have it visible anymore. -- Marc W8SDG > On Sep 12, 2015, at 8:33 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > We don't have any current plan to offer the enclosure by itself. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > >> On Sep 12, 2015, at 5:28 PM, "Richard W. Solomon" >> wrote: >> >> Would it be possible to buy just the enclosure ? >> It is said the P3 and the SP3 are the same size. >> >> 73, Dick, W1KSZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
We don't have any current plan to offer the enclosure by itself. 73, Wayne N6KR On Sep 12, 2015, at 5:28 PM, "Richard W. Solomon" wrote: > Would it be possible to buy just the enclosure ? > It is said the P3 and the SP3 are the same size. > > 73, Dick, W1KSZ > > -Original Message- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob > McGraw - K4TAX > Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2015 5:15 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details > > I use a pair of "off the shelf" brand speakers which have 2" x 4" ovals in a > nice efficient solid enclosure that is 5" deep. They stand the same height > as the K3S and are matte black. With the 2 channel features and audio of > the radio they sure sound nice. New, $49.95 for the pair. > > 73 > Bob, K4TAX > K3S s/n 10,163 > > On 9/12/2015 7:02 PM, Don Putnick via Elecraft wrote: >> "- custom-built, high-quality 4-ohm oval speaker with outstanding >> passband characteristics"I have the honor of knowing the speaker >> designer and his reputation in the audio community. He put a lot of >> talent, love and care into that design. I'm putting it on my Christmas >> list!73 Don NA6Z >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email >> list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to >> rmcg...@blomand.net >> >> >> > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to w1...@earthlink.net > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
Would it be possible to buy just the enclosure ? It is said the P3 and the SP3 are the same size. 73, Dick, W1KSZ -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob McGraw - K4TAX Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2015 5:15 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details I use a pair of "off the shelf" brand speakers which have 2" x 4" ovals in a nice efficient solid enclosure that is 5" deep. They stand the same height as the K3S and are matte black. With the 2 channel features and audio of the radio they sure sound nice. New, $49.95 for the pair. 73 Bob, K4TAX K3S s/n 10,163 On 9/12/2015 7:02 PM, Don Putnick via Elecraft wrote: > "- custom-built, high-quality 4-ohm oval speaker with outstanding > passband characteristics"I have the honor of knowing the speaker > designer and his reputation in the audio community. He put a lot of > talent, love and care into that design. I'm putting it on my Christmas > list!73 Don NA6Z > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > rmcg...@blomand.net > > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w1...@earthlink.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
I use a pair of "off the shelf" brand speakers which have 2" x 4" ovals in a nice efficient solid enclosure that is 5" deep. They stand the same height as the K3S and are matte black. With the 2 channel features and audio of the radio they sure sound nice. New, $49.95 for the pair. 73 Bob, K4TAX K3S s/n 10,163 On 9/12/2015 7:02 PM, Don Putnick via Elecraft wrote: "- custom-built, high-quality 4-ohm oval speaker with outstanding passband characteristics"I have the honor of knowing the speaker designer and his reputation in the audio community. He put a lot of talent, love and care into that design. I'm putting it on my Christmas list!73 Don NA6Z __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rmcg...@blomand.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
"- custom-built, high-quality 4-ohm oval speaker with outstanding passband characteristics"I have the honor of knowing the speaker designer and his reputation in the audio community. He put a lot of talent, love and care into that design. I'm putting it on my Christmas list!73 Don NA6Z __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker Details
Yes, I know I could RT_M; but I am working today while following the SP3 news, and wondered if anyone knows this offhand: K3 has sub-RX. When in more intense operations (DX, contest), when using Split I have the two receivers each in one side of a headset (no speakers - I don’t even own one). For casual rag chewing, stereo not necessary for me and sometimes having a speaker might be better than using a headset. So, the question: Could there be an assigned programmable function which with a single push would switch from stereo headset to mono speaker, thus requiring only one SP3 for these applications? If the answer is yes, I’ll be in line for an SP3. Tnx, Ted, KN1CBR >Message: 1 >Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 12:22:12 -0600 >From: Rose >To: Phil Hystad , Elecraft Reflector > >Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details >Message-ID: > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > >Phil echoes my situation . > >I have a full K-Line and no more space in the line-up. > >I'm one of those asking for one early on. I'd -love- to >add the speaker, but since I have the 2nd receiver in >my K3 I need two of 'em. (;-) I do have two KLM >bookcase speakers laying on their sides hidden away >under a raised shelf that holds the K-Line. > >When someone gets one Rose will want to know the >measurements that will apply to a dust cover. (The >feet enter into the equation.) > >73! > >Ken Kopp - K0PP > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
Ok, I give up, you got me. Will check airline tickets soon :) Aaaah, what a deal Grin Gary -Original Message- From: "Wayne Burdick" Sent: 13/09/2015 7:41 AM To: "Gary" Cc: "edevelope...@yahoo.com" ; "Phil Hystad" ; "Elecraft@mailman.qth.net" Subject: Re: Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details Gary wrote: > Your offering free postage and upsize with fries with the SP3? No, just a built-in stereo A/B source switch :) OTOH, the fries are on me if you ever visit California. Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Gary wrote: > Your offering free postage and upsize with fries with the SP3? No, just a built-in stereo A/B source switch :) OTOH, the fries are on me if you ever visit California. Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Wayne Hand as soon as figure out how to tap into the battery bank I will do my damnedness to deplete it with my K-Linegrin Your offering free postage and upsize with fries with the SP3? Ducking for cover now :-) Gary -Original Message- From: "Wayne Burdick" Sent: 13/09/2015 6:54 AM To: "Gary" Cc: "edevelope...@yahoo.com" ; "Phil Hystad" ; "Elecraft@mailman.qth.net" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details > The joy of living in a resource rich country with nowhere to sell it :-( Bet you could solar-power the entire country, Gary. I'm picturing one colossal array aimed at a boiler on top of Ayers Rock :) Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Hams have historically paid big bucks for speakers that match their rigs. 73, Don W3FPR On 9/12/2015 5:11 PM, F5vjc wrote: You guys must be drunk on KoolAid, 180$ for an, OK Wow... 'Matching' SP3 Speaker, and most will need two, not one Yikes ! Shipped to Europe, I don't think so! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I got to see the new Elecraft speakers at the SW Division Hamcon today and they look and sound great. 73, Bill, W6QR --Message: 28 Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 17:30:20 -0700 From: Wayne Burdick To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi all, The SP3 is our new external speaker. We'll have a product brochure and photos soon, but here's a brief list of features: - styled to match the Elecraft K-Line - same size as the Elecraft P3 Panadapter, with matching fold-up tilt stand - works with any transceiver, but optimized for use with the K3 and K3S - custom-built, high-quality 4-ohm oval speaker with outstanding passband characteristics - A/B source selector switch - two jacks for mono or stereo input sources, and one mono extension output, allowing ? convenient switching of the following configurations: ? - one transceiver, one speaker ? - two transceivers, one speaker, selected by A/B switch ? - one transceiver, two speakers (stereo) ? - two transceivers, two speakers, selected by A/B switch (stereo) The SP3 will be sold assembled/tested only. 73, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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You guys must be drunk on KoolAid, 180$ for an, OK Wow... 'Matching' SP3 Speaker, and most will need two, not one Yikes ! Shipped to Europe, I don't think so! 73, Deni - F5VJC On 12 September 2015 at 22:54, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > The joy of living in a resource rich country with nowhere to sell it :-( > > Bet you could solar-power the entire country, Gary. I'm picturing one > colossal array aimed at a boiler on top of Ayers Rock :) > > Wayne > N6KR > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to foxfive@gmail.com > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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> The joy of living in a resource rich country with nowhere to sell it :-( Bet you could solar-power the entire country, Gary. I'm picturing one colossal array aimed at a boiler on top of Ayers Rock :) Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Yikes...the SP3 price converted to Australian Dollars comes out to $253.00 plus freight. The joy of living in a resource rich country with nowhere to sell it :-( Time to start saving the pennies Gary -Original Message- From: "edeveloper_1--- via Elecraft" Sent: 13/09/2015 4:39 AM To: "Phil Hystad" ; "Wayne Burdick" Cc: "Elecraft@mailman.qth.net" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details My shack is a bit cramped too. Currently I have a couple of really inadequate computer speakers sitting atop another rig near the K3/P3 combo. That rig sits atop the RF deck of an ALS-600, which itself sits on top of a KAT500 that's in turn sitting on top of a now-unused MFJ-998. So that's quite a "tech stack" already. Perhaps the advent of the SP3 will give me a reason to rearrange all that stuff so that I can have a good speaker (or two :)). Come to think of it, replacing the ALS-600 with a KPA500 would free up a bit of space as well and improve aesthetics at the same time. Wayne, you may have just engineered another Elecraft tipping point. 73, Tyler, KC2LST On Saturday, September 12, 2015 2:23 PM, Phil Hystad wrote: Wayne, I already have a KX3 and I love it for portable QRP work. The very idea of hiding it away in an SP3 though is just wrong. Of course, you would never do that — would you? 73, phil, K7PEH > On Sep 12, 2015, at 11:09 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > Phil, > > If you ever decide to seriously downsize, you can mount a KX3 inside an SP3. > > Wayne > N6KR > > > On Sep 12, 2015, at 11:05 AM, Phil Hystad wrote: > >> The idea of producing a matching speaker is inevitable given the history of >> matching speakers (Note: obviously the idea of “matching” has different >> interpretations by different vendors)…. >> >> ...But, unfortunately, I have no plans to buy one because I have no room for >> its matchability to be useful as >> my current K-line sits in a nice line up: K3, P3, KPA500 and there is no >> more room for another >> side-by-side box. Making room and adding the extra box puts different parts >> of the K-line too far >> apart (at least, for me and my operating comfort). >> >> So, here I am with my favorite rig, the K3 and maybe the last vendor >> (Elecraft) that I will ever buy from as long >> as they keep up their good work, and the first radio (K3) in my personal >> history without its own matching >> speaker due merely to the lack of space on my desk top. > > > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to vk1zzg...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
My shack is a bit cramped too. Currently I have a couple of really inadequate computer speakers sitting atop another rig near the K3/P3 combo. That rig sits atop the RF deck of an ALS-600, which itself sits on top of a KAT500 that's in turn sitting on top of a now-unused MFJ-998. So that's quite a "tech stack" already. Perhaps the advent of the SP3 will give me a reason to rearrange all that stuff so that I can have a good speaker (or two :)). Come to think of it, replacing the ALS-600 with a KPA500 would free up a bit of space as well and improve aesthetics at the same time. Wayne, you may have just engineered another Elecraft tipping point. 73, Tyler, KC2LST On Saturday, September 12, 2015 2:23 PM, Phil Hystad wrote: Wayne, I already have a KX3 and I love it for portable QRP work. The very idea of hiding it away in an SP3 though is just wrong. Of course, you would never do that — would you? 73, phil, K7PEH > On Sep 12, 2015, at 11:09 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > Phil, > > If you ever decide to seriously downsize, you can mount a KX3 inside an SP3. > > Wayne > N6KR > > > On Sep 12, 2015, at 11:05 AM, Phil Hystad wrote: > >> The idea of producing a matching speaker is inevitable given the history of >> matching speakers (Note: obviously the idea of “matching” has different >> interpretations by different vendors)…. >> >> ...But, unfortunately, I have no plans to buy one because I have no room for >> its matchability to be useful as >> my current K-line sits in a nice line up: K3, P3, KPA500 and there is no >> more room for another >> side-by-side box. Making room and adding the extra box puts different parts >> of the K-line too far >> apart (at least, for me and my operating comfort). >> >> So, here I am with my favorite rig, the K3 and maybe the last vendor >> (Elecraft) that I will ever buy from as long >> as they keep up their good work, and the first radio (K3) in my personal >> history without its own matching >> speaker due merely to the lack of space on my desk top. > > > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
Wayne, I already have a KX3 and I love it for portable QRP work. The very idea of hiding it away in an SP3 though is just wrong. Of course, you would never do that — would you? 73, phil, K7PEH > On Sep 12, 2015, at 11:09 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > Phil, > > If you ever decide to seriously downsize, you can mount a KX3 inside an SP3. > > Wayne > N6KR > > > On Sep 12, 2015, at 11:05 AM, Phil Hystad wrote: > >> The idea of producing a matching speaker is inevitable given the history of >> matching speakers (Note: obviously the idea of “matching” has different >> interpretations by different vendors)…. >> >> ...But, unfortunately, I have no plans to buy one because I have no room for >> its matchability to be useful as >> my current K-line sits in a nice line up: K3, P3, KPA500 and there is no >> more room for another >> side-by-side box. Making room and adding the extra box puts different parts >> of the K-line too far >> apart (at least, for me and my operating comfort). >> >> So, here I am with my favorite rig, the K3 and maybe the last vendor >> (Elecraft) that I will ever buy from as long >> as they keep up their good work, and the first radio (K3) in my personal >> history without its own matching >> speaker due merely to the lack of space on my desk top. > > > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
Phil echoes my situation . I have a full K-Line and no more space in the line-up. I'm one of those asking for one early on. I'd -love- to add the speaker, but since I have the 2nd receiver in my K3 I need two of 'em. (;-) I do have two KLM bookcase speakers laying on their sides hidden away under a raised shelf that holds the K-Line. When someone gets one Rose will want to know the measurements that will apply to a dust cover. (The feet enter into the equation.) 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Phil, If you ever decide to seriously downsize, you can mount a KX3 inside an SP3. Wayne N6KR On Sep 12, 2015, at 11:05 AM, Phil Hystad wrote: > The idea of producing a matching speaker is inevitable given the history of > matching speakers (Note: obviously the idea of “matching” has different > interpretations by different vendors)…. > > ...But, unfortunately, I have no plans to buy one because I have no room for > its matchability to be useful as > my current K-line sits in a nice line up: K3, P3, KPA500 and there is no more > room for another > side-by-side box. Making room and adding the extra box puts different parts > of the K-line too far > apart (at least, for me and my operating comfort). > > So, here I am with my favorite rig, the K3 and maybe the last vendor > (Elecraft) that I will ever buy from as long > as they keep up their good work, and the first radio (K3) in my personal > history without its own matching > speaker due merely to the lack of space on my desk top. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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The idea of producing a matching speaker is inevitable given the history of matching speakers (Note: obviously the idea of “matching” has different interpretations by different vendors). But, 1. When I was nine years old, when my interest in radio started, my dad brought home the radios from his ship (because they were being replaced during a remodel). This was the year 1956. The radio receiver was EH Scott, model SLR: 12-B designed to fit in a rack cabinet. It had a huge (boat anchor quality) matching speaker. 2. My Hammarlund HQ-170AC, circa 1965, had a matching speaker (color and general design features). 3. My Icom 756 (non-pro) had a matching Icom speaker (and, matching power supply). 4. My Icom 756 Pro III had the newer version of the matching Icom speaker (SP-23). 5. And, now, Elecraft has a matching speaker to go along with the K3/K3S. But, unfortunately, I have no plans to buy one because I have no room for its matchability to be useful as my current K-line sits in a nice line up: K3, P3, KPA500 and there is no more room for another side-by-side box. Making room and adding the extra box puts different parts of the K-line too far apart (at least, for me and my operating comfort). So, here I am with my favorite rig, the K3 and maybe the last vendor (Elecraft) that I will ever buy from as long as they keep up their good work, and the first radio (K3) in my personal history without its own matching speaker due merely to the lack of space on my desk top. 73, phil, K7PEH P.S. I currently use West Mountain Radio Comspkr (stereo units) but most of the time headphones (cm-500). > On Sep 12, 2015, at 9:26 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > Tyler (KC2LST) wrote: > >> ...from the photos on Twitter it looks like a very nice unit. As I recall >> there have been a number of discussions on this reflector debating the >> merits of various third-party external speakers and quite a few called on >> Elecraft to produce one of its own, to match the K-Line. Congratulations to >> Elecraft for once again listening to its customers and responding. I look >> forward to hearing the new SP3 in action! > > We certainly have had many requests for a matching, front-firing speaker. > Sorry it took so long! > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to phys...@mac.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
Tyler (KC2LST) wrote: > ...from the photos on Twitter it looks like a very nice unit. As I recall > there have been a number of discussions on this reflector debating the merits > of various third-party external speakers and quite a few called on Elecraft > to produce one of its own, to match the K-Line. Congratulations to Elecraft > for once again listening to its customers and responding. I look forward to > hearing the new SP3 in action! We certainly have had many requests for a matching, front-firing speaker. Sorry it took so long! 73, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
Hi Wayne, Thanks for the update - from the photos on Twitter it looks like a very nice unit. As I recall there have been a number of discussions on this reflector debating the merits of various third-party external speakers and quite a few called on Elecraft to produce one of its own, to match the K-Line. Congratulations to Elecraft for once again listening to its customers and responding. I look forward to hearing the new SP3 in action! 73, Tyler, KC2LST --Message: 28 Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 17:30:20 -0700 From: Wayne Burdick To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi all, The SP3 is our new external speaker. We'll have a product brochure and photos soon, but here's a brief list of features: - styled to match the Elecraft K-Line - same size as the Elecraft P3 Panadapter, with matching fold-up tilt stand - works with any transceiver, but optimized for use with the K3 and K3S - custom-built, high-quality 4-ohm oval speaker with outstanding passband characteristics - A/B source selector switch - two jacks for mono or stereo input sources, and one mono extension output, allowing convenient switching of the following configurations: - one transceiver, one speaker - two transceivers, one speaker, selected by A/B switch - one transceiver, two speakers (stereo) - two transceivers, two speakers, selected by A/B switch (stereo) The SP3 will be sold assembled/tested only. 73, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
Pictures of SP3 can be found on Elecraft's Twitter account: https://twitter.com/elecraft/status/642473404080091136 - Sverre, LA3ZA K2 #2198, K3 #3391, LA3ZA Blog: http://la3za.blogspot.com, LA3ZA Unofficial Guide to K2 modifications: http://la3za.blogspot.com/p/la3za-unofficial-guide-to-elecraft-k2.html -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Elecraft-SP3-External-Speaker-tp7607455p7607465.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
Hi all, The SP3 is our new external speaker. We'll have a product brochure and photos soon, but here's a brief list of features: - styled to match the Elecraft K-Line - same size as the Elecraft P3 Panadapter, with matching fold-up tilt stand - works with any transceiver, but optimized for use with the K3 and K3S - custom-built, high-quality 4-ohm oval speaker with outstanding passband characteristics - A/B source selector switch - two jacks for mono or stereo input sources, and one mono extension output, allowing convenient switching of the following configurations: - one transceiver, one speaker - two transceivers, one speaker, selected by A/B switch - one transceiver, two speakers (stereo) - two transceivers, two speakers, selected by A/B switch (stereo) The SP3 will be sold assembled/tested only. 73, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com