[Elecraft] SDR IQ

2015-03-29 Thread Viggo Magnus Nilsen
Hello Elecrafter's...

Looking for an RF-Space SDR IQ.any have one ''left over for sale '' ?

73' Viggo  LA9NEA  ( K3' remote ,K3/0-mini owner)
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[Elecraft] SDR-IQ and K2

2011-11-10 Thread Steve Bunting
Hi Folks,

I have a Z1 buffer board in my K2 and have used it to drive a 
softrock as a panadapter for some time. It works just fine, but I have 
left this uncalibrated and my PC doesn't really have enough horsepower 
to run my external soundcard.

I have been trying to reduce PC overhead and introduce click to tune 
by using an SDR-IQ instead. The system displays OK, but I cannot get 
Simon's SDR-Radio software to calibrate the panadapter to zero beat the 
radio RX. I know about the cal functions, but can't dial in enough 
offset for all modes. I suspect I am doing something fundamentally 
incorrect - can anyone help?

1) I am using telling the SDR that the IF is 4.915MHz. I assume that is 
correct? I see that the soft rock radios are at 4.898MHz and I am not 
sure why.

2) I assume the K2 offsets the frequency when modes are changed? If so, 
by how much on each mode? Does any mode have no offset at all? This 
would be the one I need to perform my initial calibration with.

If any one has a K2 working with an SDR-IQ (either with SDR-radio or any 
other software that provides click to tune) I'd really like to hear from 
you - i have plenty to learn!

Thanks es 73
Steve
M0BPQ
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Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ and K2

2011-11-10 Thread Larry Phipps
Steve, you might want to look at the combo of LPB2 and NaP3. LPB2 allows 
sharing of the rig port with an SDR and up to 5 apps, like LP-Bridge 
does with K3. NaP3 is the latest iteration of Flex's open source 
PowerSDR, has some really neat features. A version of NaP3 is in 
pre-release which fully supports K2, with extensive support for offsets 
for all modes.

Larry N8LP



On 11/10/2011 12:00 PM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:
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 Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 16:06:11 +
 From: Steve Buntingstephen.bunt...@virgin.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ and K2
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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

 Hi Folks,

 I have a Z1 buffer board in my K2 and have used it to drive a
 softrock as a panadapter for some time. It works just fine, but I have
 left this uncalibrated and my PC doesn't really have enough horsepower
 to run my external soundcard.

 I have been trying to reduce PC overhead and introduce click to tune
 by using an SDR-IQ instead. The system displays OK, but I cannot get
 Simon's SDR-Radio software to calibrate the panadapter to zero beat the
 radio RX. I know about the cal functions, but can't dial in enough
 offset for all modes. I suspect I am doing something fundamentally
 incorrect - can anyone help?

 1) I am using telling the SDR that the IF is 4.915MHz. I assume that is
 correct? I see that the soft rock radios are at 4.898MHz and I am not
 sure why.

 2) I assume the K2 offsets the frequency when modes are changed? If so,
 by how much on each mode? Does any mode have no offset at all? This
 would be the one I need to perform my initial calibration with.

 If any one has a K2 working with an SDR-IQ (either with SDR-radio or any
 other software that provides click to tune) I'd really like to hear from
 you - i have plenty to learn!

 Thanks es 73
 Steve
 M0BPQ

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Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ and K2

2011-11-10 Thread Jack Smith
Steve:

1. 4898 KHz is the nearest to 4915 KHz cheap, off-the-shelf crystal that 
Tony (developer of Softrock) found. It has the advantage for anyone not 
using a high isolation buffer amp such as the Z1B, that the local 
oscillator leakage is outside the K2's crystal filter bandpass. This 
avoids hearing the Softrock local oscillator as a steady carrier in the K2.

2. Yes, the K2 shifts frequency with mode changes. You can measure your 
K2's shift by tuning a strong stable signal and working through the 
modes and observing the shift on the Softrock/software display.

Jack K8ZOA


On 11/10/2011 11:06 AM, Steve Bunting wrote:
 Hi Folks,

 I have a Z1 buffer board in my K2 and have used it to drive a
 softrock as a panadapter for some time. It works just fine, but I have
 left this uncalibrated and my PC doesn't really have enough horsepower
 to run my external soundcard.

 I have been trying to reduce PC overhead and introduce click to tune
 by using an SDR-IQ instead. The system displays OK, but I cannot get
 Simon's SDR-Radio software to calibrate the panadapter to zero beat the
 radio RX. I know about the cal functions, but can't dial in enough
 offset for all modes. I suspect I am doing something fundamentally
 incorrect - can anyone help?

 1) I am using telling the SDR that the IF is 4.915MHz. I assume that is
 correct? I see that the soft rock radios are at 4.898MHz and I am not
 sure why.

 2) I assume the K2 offsets the frequency when modes are changed? If so,
 by how much on each mode? Does any mode have no offset at all? This
 would be the one I need to perform my initial calibration with.

 If any one has a K2 working with an SDR-IQ (either with SDR-radio or any
 other software that provides click to tune) I'd really like to hear from
 you - i have plenty to learn!

 Thanks es 73
 Steve
 M0BPQ
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[Elecraft] SDR IQ/IF Questions

2011-04-06 Thread Geoffrey Wolf
Hello fellow SDR enthusiasts,

 

I have looked around a little bit and haven't found a very definitive answer
for the questions that I'm having about the way the K3 and external SDR
equipment works. 

 

I've been looking into the LP-Pan which converts the IF output from the K3
into (im guessing) audio signals which then are converted into digital data
by a soundcard. The trouble I'm having is understanding what exactly I/Q is.
From what I understand, I/Q is digital data that software like CW Skimmer
understands.

 

Now, I've also been looking at the SDR-IQ which does all of this internally
by taking the IF output from the K3 and converts it directly into digital
data which is then ferried to the computer over USB, forgoing the need for
an extra soundcard. 

 

Now, I've seen two versions of PowerSDR. I've seen PowerSDR/IF (looks more
developed/supported), and PowerSDR-IQ. What is the difference? 

 

I suppose the summary question of this email is. can you use PowerSDR/IF
with an SDR-IQ rather than an LP-Pan? I personally would rather buy an
SDR-IQ and take that extra hardware stage (possible audio loss) out of the
picture.

 

Thanks!

 

Geoffrey Wolf

AB3LS - Amateur Radio Callsign

University of Pittsburgh '14

gr...@pitt.edu

liltechd...@me.com

(412) 450-1310

 

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Re: [Elecraft] SDR IQ/IF Questions

2011-04-06 Thread Geoffrey Wolf
Okay,

Well thank you for the link. I have a little bit of reading up to do on I/Q.
So I'm still a little bit confused in the K3 setup situation. So in both the
situations with the LP-Pan or the SDR-IQ, the PowerSDR software would
receive the same data? I'm having trouble understanding where the analog
signals are converted into digital signals. In the case of the LP-Pan, I'm
imagining that it happens at the soundcard? In the case of the SDR-IQ, it
takes place inside the SDR-IQ... right?

Sorry for my misunderstanding here...

So my main question still stands, can you use PowerSDR/IF software with an
SDR-IQ?

Thank You!

Geoffrey Wolf
AB3LS - Amateur Radio Callsign
University of Pittsburgh '14
gr...@pitt.edu
liltechd...@me.com
(412) 450-1310

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Re: [Elecraft] SDR IQ/IF Questions

2011-04-06 Thread Byron Servies
Hi Geoffrey,

Perhaps the ARRL Handbook, Chapter 15 - DSP and Software Radio
Design, might help? Section 15.6, in particular describes the math
behind calculating the in-phase (I) and quadrature (Q) portions of a
wave form.

As for specific device compatibility with particular software
packages, the release notes for the software should list the hardware
it will work with.

HTH,

On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Geoffrey Wolf liltechdud...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've been looking into the LP-Pan which converts the IF output from the K3
 into (im guessing) audio signals which then are converted into digital data
 by a soundcard. The trouble I'm having is understanding what exactly I/Q is.
 From what I understand, I/Q is digital data that software like CW Skimmer
 understands.

73, Byron N6NUL

- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2011 Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2011
- www.cqp.org
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Re: [Elecraft] SDR IQ/IF Questions

2011-04-06 Thread Geoff Wolf
Oh thank you. I Have the handbook but didn't know there was a DSP section. I'll 
take a look at that. 

--
Geoffrey Wolf 
AB3LS (Amateur Radio Callsign)
University of Pittsburgh '14
gr...@pitt.edu
liltechd...@me.com
(412) 450-1310


On Apr 6, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Byron Servies by...@n6nul.org wrote:

 Hi Geoffrey,
 
 Perhaps the ARRL Handbook, Chapter 15 - DSP and Software Radio
 Design, might help? Section 15.6, in particular describes the math
 behind calculating the in-phase (I) and quadrature (Q) portions of a
 wave form.
 
 As for specific device compatibility with particular software
 packages, the release notes for the software should list the hardware
 it will work with.
 
 HTH,
 
 On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Geoffrey Wolf liltechdud...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I've been looking into the LP-Pan which converts the IF output from the K3
 into (im guessing) audio signals which then are converted into digital data
 by a soundcard. The trouble I'm having is understanding what exactly I/Q is.
 From what I understand, I/Q is digital data that software like CW Skimmer
 understands.
 
 73, Byron N6NUL
 
 - Northern California Contest Club
 - CU in the 2011 Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2011
 - www.cqp.org
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Re: [Elecraft] SDR IQ/IF Questions

2011-04-06 Thread Leigh L. Klotz Jr WA5ZNU
If you're interested in DSP code you might try using quisk instead of
PowerSDR.
It's written in mostly Python and a little bit of C, and works on Linux and
Windows.
I made some modules for it to talk to the K3 rigcontrol, but those aren't
necessary to use it with the LP-PAN output, just for the click-to-qsy and
frequency display.

Leigh/WA5ZNU


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Re: [Elecraft] SDR IQ/IF Questions

2011-04-06 Thread Larry Phipps
  Hi Geoffrey. I just read through your thread (I receive the reflector 
in digest mode). I didn't see one of your questions answered, so I will 
tackle it...

I'm not aware of any version of PowerSDR which works with SDR-IQ. The 
interface has to be a sound card. My favorite version of PowerSDR is the 
/IF version by Scott, WU2X. I have tried others like PowerSDR/IQ, but 
they are not as well integrated with the K3 or LP-Bridge.

A recent addition, on which I am a contributing developer, is TRX-Pan. 
It is much simpler and cleaner looking than PowerSDR/IF and integrates 
more tightly with the K3. In fact, more tightly than any other 
panadapter for the K3, I believe. You can read about it here, 
http://www.telepostinc.com/TRXP.html TRX-Pan does not provide 
demodulated audio as PowerSDR does, so it can't be used as a sub-rcvr, 
but it does display and track passbands for both VFOs very nicely. It's 
more like a P3 with huge screen and mouse control.

I wasn't aware that Quisk now supports Windoze. Leigh might have 
mentioned this and I just forgot. I will play with it when I have some 
time. Maybe it could be customized to the level that TRX-Pan is in terms 
of K3 / LP-Bridge integration.

Before deciding on a PC based solution versus a partial PC based 
solution versus a standalone solution, I would download and play with 
the programs that would be required for any of these. They are all 
available as a free download, although WU2X requests a donation to 
support PowerSDR/IF if you decide to go that route. You can set these up 
to control the rig and display noise from your sound card. This will 
help you decide if the PC approach is right for you.

73,
Larry N8LP



On 4/6/2011 5:11 PM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:
 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 13:29:45 -0400
 From: Geoffrey Wolfliltechdud...@gmail.com
 Subject: [Elecraft] SDR IQ/IF Questions
 To:elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Message-ID:000f01cbf480$39143d10$ab3cb730$@gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

 Hello fellow SDR enthusiasts,



 I have looked around a little bit and haven't found a very definitive answer
 for the questions that I'm having about the way the K3 and external SDR
 equipment works.



 I've been looking into the LP-Pan which converts the IF output from the K3
 into (im guessing) audio signals which then are converted into digital data
 by a soundcard. The trouble I'm having is understanding what exactly I/Q is.
  From what I understand, I/Q is digital data that software like CW Skimmer
 understands.



 Now, I've also been looking at the SDR-IQ which does all of this internally
 by taking the IF output from the K3 and converts it directly into digital
 data which is then ferried to the computer over USB, forgoing the need for
 an extra soundcard.



 Now, I've seen two versions of PowerSDR. I've seen PowerSDR/IF (looks more
 developed/supported), and PowerSDR-IQ. What is the difference?



 I suppose the summary question of this email is. can you use PowerSDR/IF
 with an SDR-IQ rather than an LP-Pan? I personally would rather buy an
 SDR-IQ and take that extra hardware stage (possible audio loss) out of the
 picture.



 Thanks!



 Geoffrey Wolf

 AB3LS - Amateur Radio Callsign

 University of Pittsburgh '14

 gr...@pitt.edu

 liltechd...@me.com

 (412) 450-1310

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Re: [Elecraft] SDR IQ/IF Questions

2011-04-06 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

Larry,

  A recent addition, on which I am a contributing developer, is TRX-Pan.
  It is much simpler and cleaner looking than PowerSDR/IF and integrates
  more tightly with the K3.

Does TRX-Pan support SDR-IQ or is it limited to soundcard based
devices?

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 4/6/2011 10:09 PM, Larry Phipps wrote:
Hi Geoffrey. I just read through your thread (I receive the reflector
 in digest mode). I didn't see one of your questions answered, so I will
 tackle it...

 I'm not aware of any version of PowerSDR which works with SDR-IQ. The
 interface has to be a sound card. My favorite version of PowerSDR is the
 /IF version by Scott, WU2X. I have tried others like PowerSDR/IQ, but
 they are not as well integrated with the K3 or LP-Bridge.

 A recent addition, on which I am a contributing developer, is TRX-Pan.
 It is much simpler and cleaner looking than PowerSDR/IF and integrates
 more tightly with the K3. In fact, more tightly than any other
 panadapter for the K3, I believe. You can read about it here,
 http://www.telepostinc.com/TRXP.html TRX-Pan does not provide
 demodulated audio as PowerSDR does, so it can't be used as a sub-rcvr,
 but it does display and track passbands for both VFOs very nicely. It's
 more like a P3 with huge screen and mouse control.

 I wasn't aware that Quisk now supports Windoze. Leigh might have
 mentioned this and I just forgot. I will play with it when I have some
 time. Maybe it could be customized to the level that TRX-Pan is in terms
 of K3 / LP-Bridge integration.

 Before deciding on a PC based solution versus a partial PC based
 solution versus a standalone solution, I would download and play with
 the programs that would be required for any of these. They are all
 available as a free download, although WU2X requests a donation to
 support PowerSDR/IF if you decide to go that route. You can set these up
 to control the rig and display noise from your sound card. This will
 help you decide if the PC approach is right for you.

 73,
 Larry N8LP



 On 4/6/2011 5:11 PM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:
 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 13:29:45 -0400
 From: Geoffrey Wolfliltechdud...@gmail.com
 Subject: [Elecraft] SDR IQ/IF Questions
 To:elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Message-ID:000f01cbf480$39143d10$ab3cb730$@gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii

 Hello fellow SDR enthusiasts,



 I have looked around a little bit and haven't found a very definitive answer
 for the questions that I'm having about the way the K3 and external SDR
 equipment works.



 I've been looking into the LP-Pan which converts the IF output from the K3
 into (im guessing) audio signals which then are converted into digital data
 by a soundcard. The trouble I'm having is understanding what exactly I/Q is.
  From what I understand, I/Q is digital data that software like CW Skimmer
 understands.



 Now, I've also been looking at the SDR-IQ which does all of this internally
 by taking the IF output from the K3 and converts it directly into digital
 data which is then ferried to the computer over USB, forgoing the need for
 an extra soundcard.



 Now, I've seen two versions of PowerSDR. I've seen PowerSDR/IF (looks more
 developed/supported), and PowerSDR-IQ. What is the difference?



 I suppose the summary question of this email is. can you use PowerSDR/IF
 with an SDR-IQ rather than an LP-Pan? I personally would rather buy an
 SDR-IQ and take that extra hardware stage (possible audio loss) out of the
 picture.



 Thanks!



 Geoffrey Wolf

 AB3LS - Amateur Radio Callsign

 University of Pittsburgh '14

 gr...@pitt.edu

 liltechd...@me.com

 (412) 450-1310

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Re: [Elecraft] SDR IQ/IF Questions

2011-04-06 Thread Larry Phipps
  Sound card only.

Larry N8LP



On 4/6/2011 11:14 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

 Larry,

  A recent addition, on which I am a contributing developer, is TRX-Pan.
  It is much simpler and cleaner looking than PowerSDR/IF and integrates
  more tightly with the K3.

 Does TRX-Pan support SDR-IQ or is it limited to soundcard based
 devices?

 73,

... Joe, W4TV


 On 4/6/2011 10:09 PM, Larry Phipps wrote:
Hi Geoffrey. I just read through your thread (I receive the reflector
 in digest mode). I didn't see one of your questions answered, so I will
 tackle it...

 I'm not aware of any version of PowerSDR which works with SDR-IQ. The
 interface has to be a sound card. My favorite version of PowerSDR is the
 /IF version by Scott, WU2X. I have tried others like PowerSDR/IQ, but
 they are not as well integrated with the K3 or LP-Bridge.

 A recent addition, on which I am a contributing developer, is TRX-Pan.
 It is much simpler and cleaner looking than PowerSDR/IF and integrates
 more tightly with the K3. In fact, more tightly than any other
 panadapter for the K3, I believe. You can read about it here,
 http://www.telepostinc.com/TRXP.html TRX-Pan does not provide
 demodulated audio as PowerSDR does, so it can't be used as a sub-rcvr,
 but it does display and track passbands for both VFOs very nicely. It's
 more like a P3 with huge screen and mouse control.

 I wasn't aware that Quisk now supports Windoze. Leigh might have
 mentioned this and I just forgot. I will play with it when I have some
 time. Maybe it could be customized to the level that TRX-Pan is in terms
 of K3 / LP-Bridge integration.

 Before deciding on a PC based solution versus a partial PC based
 solution versus a standalone solution, I would download and play with
 the programs that would be required for any of these. They are all
 available as a free download, although WU2X requests a donation to
 support PowerSDR/IF if you decide to go that route. You can set these up
 to control the rig and display noise from your sound card. This will
 help you decide if the PC approach is right for you.

 73,
 Larry N8LP



 On 4/6/2011 5:11 PM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:
 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 13:29:45 -0400
 From: Geoffrey Wolfliltechdud...@gmail.com
 Subject: [Elecraft] SDR IQ/IF Questions
 To:elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Message-ID:000f01cbf480$39143d10$ab3cb730$@gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii

 Hello fellow SDR enthusiasts,



 I have looked around a little bit and haven't found a very 
 definitive answer
 for the questions that I'm having about the way the K3 and external SDR
 equipment works.



 I've been looking into the LP-Pan which converts the IF output from 
 the K3
 into (im guessing) audio signals which then are converted into 
 digital data
 by a soundcard. The trouble I'm having is understanding what exactly 
 I/Q is.
  From what I understand, I/Q is digital data that software like CW 
 Skimmer
 understands.



 Now, I've also been looking at the SDR-IQ which does all of this 
 internally
 by taking the IF output from the K3 and converts it directly into 
 digital
 data which is then ferried to the computer over USB, forgoing the 
 need for
 an extra soundcard.



 Now, I've seen two versions of PowerSDR. I've seen PowerSDR/IF 
 (looks more
 developed/supported), and PowerSDR-IQ. What is the difference?



 I suppose the summary question of this email is. can you use 
 PowerSDR/IF
 with an SDR-IQ rather than an LP-Pan? I personally would rather buy an
 SDR-IQ and take that extra hardware stage (possible audio loss) out 
 of the
 picture.



 Thanks!



 Geoffrey Wolf

 AB3LS - Amateur Radio Callsign

 University of Pittsburgh '14

 gr...@pitt.edu

 liltechd...@me.com

 (412) 450-1310

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Re: [Elecraft] SDR IQ/IF Questions

2011-04-06 Thread Torsten Clay
Another new (free) software package under development combining an I/Q SDR
panadapter and a contest logging program. Supports linux and windows:

http://code.google.com/p/so2sdr/

features of the SDR panadapter with SO2SDR:

-supports dual panadapter displays (for two radio contesting)
-auto I/Q balancing
-peak detection of signals
-ability to mark signals on the panadapter (use to mark dupes in CW
contests)
-can be used to find open (unused) frequencies on a band
-special support for Elecraft radios: it automatically inverts the display
for the K2 when on the upper bands, for the K3 it reads the correct IF
offset for the filter in use

I can't guarantee it is completely free of bugs, but I use it for my own
operating :)

Tor
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Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ

2010-06-08 Thread John G4IRN

George

I have a K3 s/n 3569 (factory built) which has RF Board Rev 3. I have also
checked inside the radio to see that the IF output modification has been
performed.

My experience with the SDR-IQ is also disappointing. There are signals that
I can hear on the K3 (up to S4 or 5) that I simply cannot see on the
Spectravue panadapter. This is despite me setting the SDR-IQ to maximum gain
- but maybe I'm missing something too.

I'd also be interested to hear from anyone who already has the Rev 3 RF
board and has SDR-IQ on the IF output working satisfactorily (i.e. can see
weak signals!).

John G4IRN.


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Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ

2010-06-08 Thread David Cutter
I wonder what the sensitivity of the P3 is in this regard; I can't see it 
in the spec on quick inspection.

David
G3UNA






 George

 I have a K3 s/n 3569 (factory built) which has RF Board Rev 3. I have also
 checked inside the radio to see that the IF output modification has been
 performed.

 My experience with the SDR-IQ is also disappointing. There are signals 
 that
 I can hear on the K3 (up to S4 or 5) that I simply cannot see on the
 Spectravue panadapter. This is despite me setting the SDR-IQ to maximum 
 gain
 - but maybe I'm missing something too.

 I'd also be interested to hear from anyone who already has the Rev 3 RF
 board and has SDR-IQ on the IF output working satisfactorily (i.e. can see
 weak signals!).

 John G4IRN.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ

2010-06-08 Thread QRZ
Hi John,

Having had an IC-756, I was sure I couldn't live without a band scope and so
I hesitated and almost didn't get a K3. When I did get the K3 I immediately
realized I had been correct in my initial assumption, so I began looking
around for a solution.

I was initially very disappointed with the performance of the SDR-IQ and was
convinced it was something I was doing wrong. I was right, with the help of
John, N1JM who sent me his ini file (and others who lent advice and
suggestions) and some further hacking around; I was finally able to get the
level of performance I had hoped for. Now I'm glad I didn't throw it out. 

I guess I've been spoiled and just like to know where the activity is
without tuning or scanning...

If you want I can send you my ini file off list.
I had the exact same experience as you; I guess it doesn't come out of the
box optimized for the K3...

George...WA1NTA
73

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George

I have a K3 s/n 3569 (factory built) which has RF Board Rev 3. I have also
checked inside the radio to see that the IF output modification has been
performed.

My experience with the SDR-IQ is also disappointing. There are signals that
I can hear on the K3 (up to S4 or 5) that I simply cannot see on the
Spectravue panadapter. This is despite me setting the SDR-IQ to maximum gain
- but maybe I'm missing something too.

I'd also be interested to hear from anyone who already has the Rev 3 RF
board and has SDR-IQ on the IF output working satisfactorily (i.e. can see
weak signals!).

John G4IRN.


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Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ

2010-06-08 Thread John G4IRN

Yes please George, send me the ini file!!

73, John




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Hi John, 

Having had an IC-756, I was sure I couldn't live without a band scope and so 
I hesitated and almost didn't get a K3. When I did get the K3 I immediately 
realized I had been correct in my initial assumption, so I began looking 
around for a solution. 

I was initially very disappointed with the performance of the SDR-IQ and was 
convinced it was something I was doing wrong. I was right, with the help of 
John, N1JM who sent me his ini file (and others who lent advice and 
suggestions) and some further hacking around; I was finally able to get the 
level of performance I had hoped for. Now I'm glad I didn't throw it out. 

I guess I've been spoiled and just like to know where the activity is 
without tuning or scanning... 

If you want I can send you my ini file off list. 
I had the exact same experience as you; I guess it doesn't come out of the 
box optimized for the K3... 

George...WA1NTA 
73 

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From: [hidden email] 
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To: [hidden email] 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ 


George 

I have a K3 s/n 3569 (factory built) which has RF Board Rev 3. I have also 
checked inside the radio to see that the IF output modification has been 
performed. 

My experience with the SDR-IQ is also disappointing. There are signals that 
I can hear on the K3 (up to S4 or 5) that I simply cannot see on the 
Spectravue panadapter. This is despite me setting the SDR-IQ to maximum gain 
- but maybe I'm missing something too. 

I'd also be interested to hear from anyone who already has the Rev 3 RF 
board and has SDR-IQ on the IF output working satisfactorily (i.e. can see 
weak signals!). 

John G4IRN. 


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Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ

2010-06-08 Thread Alan Bloom
The answer is it depends. :=)

The tentative spec for the noise figure of the P3 itself is 10 dB,
although it typically is a couple dB better than that.  If you do the
math, the noise figure of the K3/P3 system is within a dB or so of the
NF of the K3 alone.

But how does that translate to what you can see on the P3 screen?  At
maximum span (currently 200 kHz), the effective resolution bandwidth is
a bit less than 500 Hz, so you should be able to see anything with a
positive signal-to-noise ratio in a 500 Hz bandwidth.  Actually you can
do quite a bit better than that using the waterfall display because the
human eye has an incredible ability to discern patterns.  A weak signal
that is hidden on the spectrum display is clearly visible on the
waterfall.

But the narrower the span the weaker the signal you can see.  Unlike
most band-scopes and SDR-based panadapters, the effective resolution
bandwidth of the P3 automatically improves as you reduce the span.  At
the minimum 2 kHz, the effective resolution bandwidth is less than 5 Hz.
You can easily see signals that are completely inaudible in the
headphones.

Alan N1AL


On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 20:29 +0100, David Cutter wrote:
 I wonder what the sensitivity of the P3 is in this regard; I can't see it 
 in the spec on quick inspection.
 
 David
 G3UNA
 
 
 
 
 
 
  George
 
  I have a K3 s/n 3569 (factory built) which has RF Board Rev 3. I have also
  checked inside the radio to see that the IF output modification has been
  performed.
 
  My experience with the SDR-IQ is also disappointing. There are signals 
  that
  I can hear on the K3 (up to S4 or 5) that I simply cannot see on the
  Spectravue panadapter. This is despite me setting the SDR-IQ to maximum 
  gain
  - but maybe I'm missing something too.
 
  I'd also be interested to hear from anyone who already has the Rev 3 RF
  board and has SDR-IQ on the IF output working satisfactorily (i.e. can see
  weak signals!).
 
  John G4IRN.


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Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ

2010-06-07 Thread N1JM

I could send you my ini file and you could try that.

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Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ

2010-06-07 Thread WA1NTA

I would appreciate that!

 

Thanks John,

 

George

WA1NTA

73

 

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I could send you my ini file and you could try that. 

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Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ

2010-06-06 Thread QRZ
Hi Joe,

Thanks for the link, do you know if Elecraft included this mod and when they
may have started doing so, and if they did, how I can tell that my K3 has
it?

With the age of this unit (#4249), I would prefer not to start modifying it
just yet, at least not until the warranty expires.

It's unfortunate for me that I wasn't aware of this short fall before
purchasing what I was told was a good solution for the lack of a panoramic
display on the K3.

Thanks to you and Don for the information.
73
George...WA1NTA

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From: Joe Subich, W4TV [mailto:li...@subich.com] 
Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 10:10 PM
To: WA1NTA; Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ


Unless you have performed the IF Output buffer gain modification
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/IF_Output_Buffer_Gain_Mod_Rev_A.pdf
or use the Clifton Labs broadband buffer amplifier between K3  SDR-IQ
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/IF_Output_Buffer_Gain_Mod_Rev_A.pdf
what you see is entirely normal.

The unmodified K3 IF output is approximately 17 dB lower than the
RF signal input level.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 6/5/2010 9:09 PM, WA1NTA wrote:



 Does anyone have the correct settings for the K3 to work properly with the
 SDR-IQ? I'm sure I've got something set wrong because when I connect the
IQ
 to the IF and switch output the levels seem very low, I can see signals on
 40 but they don't seem representative of what I am hearing and what the S
 Meter is telling me. When I switch to 17, I can't see any activity on the
 scope, but I can hear signals on the band. However when I connect the
 antenna directly to the IQ and set EXT Radio back to none, I am able to
 observe signals and tune them in on 17 with no problem.

 Thanks in advance.
 George
 WA1NTA

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Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ

2010-06-06 Thread R. Kevin Stover


On 6/6/2010 9:10 AM, QRZ wrote:
 Hi Joe,

 Thanks for the link, do you know if Elecraft included this mod and when they
 may have started doing so, and if they did, how I can tell that my K3 has
 it?

 With the age of this unit (#4249), I would prefer not to start modifying it
 just yet, at least not until the warranty expires.

 It's unfortunate for me that I wasn't aware of this short fall before
 purchasing what I was told was a good solution for the lack of a panoramic
 display on the K3.

 Thanks to you and Don for the information.
 73
 George...WA1NTA

Elecraft started including this mod in Sept of 2009.
Last sentence of the first paragraph on the pdf in the link.
If the rig is older than that you need the mod kit. If it's newer you don't.
I don't think doing an Elecraft approved and kit supplied modification 
voids the warranty.

-- 
R. Kevin Stover

ACØH

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Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ

2010-06-06 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

  Thanks for the link, do you know if Elecraft included this mod and
  when they may have started doing so, and if they did, how I can tell
  that my K3 has it?

The modification information indicates that it was incorporated in
production beginning about 1 Sept 2009 (RF board Rev H3 and later).

  With the age of this unit (#4249), I would prefer not to start
  modifying it just yet, at least not until the warranty expires.

That modification will not void the warranty if done properly
(e.g. if you don't use a torch!).  However, if you prefer to
avoid modifications, the Clifton Labs buffer is an alternative.
I messed up the link in the last response - here's the correct one:
http://cliftonlaboratories.com/z1_buffer_amp.htm

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 6/6/2010 10:10 AM, QRZ wrote:
 Hi Joe,

 Thanks for the link, do you know if Elecraft included this mod and
 when they may have started doing so, and if they did, how I can tell
 that my K3 has it?

 With the age of this unit (#4249), I would prefer not to start
 modifying it just yet, at least not until the warranty expires.

 It's unfortunate for me that I wasn't aware of this short fall
 before purchasing what I was told was a good solution for the lack of
 a panoramic display on the K3.

 Thanks to you and Don for the information. 73 George...WA1NTA

 -Original Message- From: Joe Subich, W4TV
 [mailto:li...@subich.com] Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 10:10 PM To:
 WA1NTA; Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ


 Unless you have performed the IF Output buffer gain modification
 http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/IF_Output_Buffer_Gain_Mod_Rev_A.pdf


or use the Clifton Labs broadband buffer amplifier between K3  SDR-IQ
 http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/IF_Output_Buffer_Gain_Mod_Rev_A.pdf


what you see is entirely normal.

 The unmodified K3 IF output is approximately 17 dB lower than the RF
 signal input level.

 73,

 ... Joe, W4TV

 On 6/5/2010 9:09 PM, WA1NTA wrote:



 Does anyone have the correct settings for the K3 to work properly
 with the SDR-IQ? I'm sure I've got something set wrong because when
 I connect the
 IQ
 to the IF and switch output the levels seem very low, I can see
 signals on 40 but they don't seem representative of what I am
 hearing and what the S Meter is telling me. When I switch to 17, I
 can't see any activity on the scope, but I can hear signals on the
 band. However when I connect the antenna directly to the IQ and set
 EXT Radio back to none, I am able to observe signals and tune them
 in on 17 with no problem.

 Thanks in advance. George WA1NTA


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Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ

2010-06-06 Thread QRZ
Joe,

I guess my confusion is that if the mod was included beginning in Sept 2009
then I guess I'm back to square one with the SDR-IQ. Do you know how I can
verify that the mod was done before I try another solution?

Thanks and 73...
George, WA1NTA

-Original Message-
From: Joe Subich, W4TV [mailto:li...@subich.com] 
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 10:55 AM
To: QRZ; Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ


  Thanks for the link, do you know if Elecraft included this mod and
  when they may have started doing so, and if they did, how I can tell
  that my K3 has it?

The modification information indicates that it was incorporated in
production beginning about 1 Sept 2009 (RF board Rev H3 and later).

  With the age of this unit (#4249), I would prefer not to start
  modifying it just yet, at least not until the warranty expires.

That modification will not void the warranty if done properly
(e.g. if you don't use a torch!).  However, if you prefer to
avoid modifications, the Clifton Labs buffer is an alternative.
I messed up the link in the last response - here's the correct one:
http://cliftonlaboratories.com/z1_buffer_amp.htm

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 6/6/2010 10:10 AM, QRZ wrote:
 Hi Joe,

 Thanks for the link, do you know if Elecraft included this mod and
 when they may have started doing so, and if they did, how I can tell
 that my K3 has it?

 With the age of this unit (#4249), I would prefer not to start
 modifying it just yet, at least not until the warranty expires.

 It's unfortunate for me that I wasn't aware of this short fall
 before purchasing what I was told was a good solution for the lack of
 a panoramic display on the K3.

 Thanks to you and Don for the information. 73 George...WA1NTA

 -Original Message- From: Joe Subich, W4TV
 [mailto:li...@subich.com] Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 10:10 PM To:
 WA1NTA; Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ


 Unless you have performed the IF Output buffer gain modification
 http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/IF_Output_Buffer_Gain_Mod_Rev_A.pdf


or use the Clifton Labs broadband buffer amplifier between K3  SDR-IQ
 http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/IF_Output_Buffer_Gain_Mod_Rev_A.pdf


what you see is entirely normal.

 The unmodified K3 IF output is approximately 17 dB lower than the RF
 signal input level.

 73,

 ... Joe, W4TV

 On 6/5/2010 9:09 PM, WA1NTA wrote:



 Does anyone have the correct settings for the K3 to work properly
 with the SDR-IQ? I'm sure I've got something set wrong because when
 I connect the
 IQ
 to the IF and switch output the levels seem very low, I can see
 signals on 40 but they don't seem representative of what I am
 hearing and what the S Meter is telling me. When I switch to 17, I
 can't see any activity on the scope, but I can hear signals on the
 band. However when I connect the antenna directly to the IQ and set
 EXT Radio back to none, I am able to observe signals and tune them
 in on 17 with no problem.

 Thanks in advance. George WA1NTA



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Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ

2010-06-06 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

  Do you know how I can verify that the mod was done before I try
  another solution?

Check your RF board to see if it is marked Rev H3 or later.
Also, check the resistance of the ONE resistor that was
changed.  The information is in that modification pdf.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 6/6/2010 11:27 AM, QRZ wrote:
 Joe,

 I guess my confusion is that if the mod was included beginning in Sept 2009
 then I guess I'm back to square one with the SDR-IQ. Do you know how I can
 verify that the mod was done before I try another solution?

 Thanks and 73...
 George, WA1NTA

 -Original Message-
 From: Joe Subich, W4TV [mailto:li...@subich.com]
 Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 10:55 AM
 To: QRZ; Elecraft Reflector
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ


 Thanks for the link, do you know if Elecraft included this mod and
 when they may have started doing so, and if they did, how I can tell
 that my K3 has it?

 The modification information indicates that it was incorporated in
 production beginning about 1 Sept 2009 (RF board Rev H3 and later).

 With the age of this unit (#4249), I would prefer not to start
 modifying it just yet, at least not until the warranty expires.

 That modification will not void the warranty if done properly
 (e.g. if you don't use a torch!).  However, if you prefer to
 avoid modifications, the Clifton Labs buffer is an alternative.
 I messed up the link in the last response - here's the correct one:
 http://cliftonlaboratories.com/z1_buffer_amp.htm

 73,

  ... Joe, W4TV

 On 6/6/2010 10:10 AM, QRZ wrote:
 Hi Joe,

 Thanks for the link, do you know if Elecraft included this mod and
 when they may have started doing so, and if they did, how I can tell
 that my K3 has it?

 With the age of this unit (#4249), I would prefer not to start
 modifying it just yet, at least not until the warranty expires.

 It's unfortunate for me that I wasn't aware of this short fall
 before purchasing what I was told was a good solution for the lack of
 a panoramic display on the K3.

 Thanks to you and Don for the information. 73 George...WA1NTA

 -Original Message- From: Joe Subich, W4TV
 [mailto:li...@subich.com] Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 10:10 PM To:
 WA1NTA; Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ


 Unless you have performed the IF Output buffer gain modification
 http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/IF_Output_Buffer_Gain_Mod_Rev_A.pdf


 or use the Clifton Labs broadband buffer amplifier between K3   SDR-IQ
 http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/IF_Output_Buffer_Gain_Mod_Rev_A.pdf


 what you see is entirely normal.

 The unmodified K3 IF output is approximately 17 dB lower than the RF
 signal input level.

 73,

 ... Joe, W4TV

 On 6/5/2010 9:09 PM, WA1NTA wrote:



 Does anyone have the correct settings for the K3 to work properly
 with the SDR-IQ? I'm sure I've got something set wrong because when
 I connect the
 IQ
 to the IF and switch output the levels seem very low, I can see
 signals on 40 but they don't seem representative of what I am
 hearing and what the S Meter is telling me. When I switch to 17, I
 can't see any activity on the scope, but I can hear signals on the
 band. However when I connect the antenna directly to the IQ and set
 EXT Radio back to none, I am able to observe signals and tune them
 in on 17 with no problem.

 Thanks in advance. George WA1NTA




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[Elecraft] SDR-IQ

2010-06-05 Thread WA1NTA



Does anyone have the correct settings for the K3 to work properly with the
SDR-IQ? I'm sure I've got something set wrong because when I connect the IQ
to the IF and switch output the levels seem very low, I can see signals on
40 but they don't seem representative of what I am hearing and what the S
Meter is telling me. When I switch to 17, I can't see any activity on the
scope, but I can hear signals on the band. However when I connect the
antenna directly to the IQ and set EXT Radio back to none, I am able to
observe signals and tune them in on 17 with no problem.

Thanks in advance.
George
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Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ

2010-06-05 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

Unless you have performed the IF Output buffer gain modification
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/IF_Output_Buffer_Gain_Mod_Rev_A.pdf
or use the Clifton Labs broadband buffer amplifier between K3  SDR-IQ
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/IF_Output_Buffer_Gain_Mod_Rev_A.pdf
what you see is entirely normal.

The unmodified K3 IF output is approximately 17 dB lower than the
RF signal input level.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 6/5/2010 9:09 PM, WA1NTA wrote:



 Does anyone have the correct settings for the K3 to work properly with the
 SDR-IQ? I'm sure I've got something set wrong because when I connect the IQ
 to the IF and switch output the levels seem very low, I can see signals on
 40 but they don't seem representative of what I am hearing and what the S
 Meter is telling me. When I switch to 17, I can't see any activity on the
 scope, but I can hear signals on the band. However when I connect the
 antenna directly to the IQ and set EXT Radio back to none, I am able to
 observe signals and tune them in on 17 with no problem.

 Thanks in advance.
 George
 WA1NTA
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[Elecraft] Elecraft SDR-IQ Spectraview Presentation

2010-02-11 Thread David Robertson
Steve in the SDR-IQ Spectraview videos on you-tube the averaging was set to 1 
which is much to fast as it shows all noise and signals in real time.

Changing the averaging setting to  5 or 10 will average out all peaks and give 
you a very good presentation of signals.

73
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[Elecraft] SDR-IQ, Etherlogic and CW via serial

2010-01-29 Thread Ignacy

I used CW keyeing via serial successfuly. Now after splitting the port via
Eterlogic to connect SDR-IQ, it does not work.

Did anybody get it to work?

Would LP-Bridge work?

Would it cause timing problems?

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Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ

2009-09-29 Thread AD6XY

It is a known issue with Spectravue. The only down side to the software at
the moment.

Mike

Maarten-2 wrote:
 
 I am setting up a K3 with a SDR-IQ and spectravue.
 
 When selecting K3 in extRadiosetup menu I cannot keep the IF inverted.
 
 Is this a software problem with spectravue?
 
 Anyone on this list working with SDR-IQ with Spectravue 3.01?
 
 Thanks Maarten
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
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[Elecraft] SDR-IQ

2009-09-28 Thread Maarten
I am setting up a K3 with a SDR-IQ and spectravue.

When selecting K3 in extRadiosetup menu I cannot keep the IF inverted.

Is this a software problem with spectravue?

Anyone on this list working with SDR-IQ with Spectravue 3.01?

Thanks Maarten

 

 

 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ users?

2009-08-01 Thread R. Kevin Stover
Neither the SDR-IQ or the LP-PAN have sound cards in them.

The SDR-IQ is an full blown SDR receiver which does the data conversion 
onboard then sends the results to the computer via USB port. The SDR-IQ 
converts the entire spectrum from 500Hz to 30MHz to IQ data at an 67MHz 
sample rate.

The LP-PAN is an IF to computer interface. It takes the data off the K3 
IF port, at 8.215MHz, converts it to IQ data, and sends it on to the 
computer sound card which samples the data at a 192KHz rate (for better 
than average sound cards).

The LP-PAN/E-MU 0202 combo, which seems to be the sweet spot, are just a 
little more than half the price of the SDR-IQ.


Brett Howard wrote:
 So gentlemen what is the real difference between LP-PAN and the SDR-IQ?
 Seems like the main diff that I'm seeing is that one has the sound
 card built into it

 Any other thoughts?
   

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ACØH

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Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ users?

2009-08-01 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


 The LP-PAN/E-MU 0202 combo, which seems to be the sweet spot, 
 are just a little more than half the price of the SDR-IQ.

That's not correct.  LP-Pan = $225 (assembled), E-MU 0202 = 
$199.95 (list) ... total $425 vs. $499 list for the SDR-IQ.  
The difference in street prices will vary significantly 
deepening on shopping skills and the availability of used or 
kit options. 

 The LP-PAN is an IF to computer interface. It takes the 
 data off the K3 IF port, at 8.215MHz, converts it to IQ 
 data, and sends it on to the computer sound card which 
 samples the data at a 192KHz rate (for better than average 
 sound cards).

LP-Pan with the E-MU 0202 (USB) soundcard, LP-Bridge and 
one of the PowerSDR versions are resource intensive for 
the computer.  SDR-IQ/SpectraVue have much more reasonable 
CPU requirements.  

Unlike PowerSDR, SpectraVue will operate in a Window and 
can provide simultaneous spectrum/waterfall displays. 

Although not important here, SDR-IQ also supports a broad 
range of non-Elecraft transceivers.
 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 



 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of R. Kevin Stover
 Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 7:11 AM
 To: Brett Howard
 Cc: 'Elecraft Reflector'
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ users?
 
 
 Neither the SDR-IQ or the LP-PAN have sound cards in them.
 
 The SDR-IQ is an full blown SDR receiver which does the data 
 conversion 
 onboard then sends the results to the computer via USB port. 
 The SDR-IQ 
 converts the entire spectrum from 500Hz to 30MHz to IQ data 
 at an 67MHz 
 sample rate.
 
 The LP-PAN is an IF to computer interface. It takes the data 
 off the K3 
 IF port, at 8.215MHz, converts it to IQ data, and sends it on to the 
 computer sound card which samples the data at a 192KHz rate 
 (for better 
 than average sound cards).
 
 The LP-PAN/E-MU 0202 combo, which seems to be the sweet spot, 
 are just a 
 little more than half the price of the SDR-IQ.
 
 
 Brett Howard wrote:
  So gentlemen what is the real difference between LP-PAN and the 
  SDR-IQ? Seems like the main diff that I'm seeing is that 
 one has the 
  sound card built into it
 
  Any other thoughts?

 
 -- 
 R. Kevin Stover
 ACØH
 
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Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ users?

2009-08-01 Thread Icke

Hallo Greg,

using SDR-IQ with SpectraVue 2.34 you dont need a virtual com port - in the
SDR-IQ setup menu you must only select ext radio=Elecraft K3. Try SpectraVue
3.0 Beta 30, there are some more option as in 2.34.

'73 Detlef



Greg - AB7R wrote:
 
 Thanks Bruce.  It didn't but that's because I don't have the K3  
 connected directly to the SDR-IQ.
 
 What I had to do after some trial and error was to go to the USB  
 device properties and tell it to set up a virtual com port (in device  
 manager).  Then I set LP-Bridge to the same port and restarted  
 everything.
 
 Now after a little tweaking of the IF freq and zero-beating with a sig  
 generator it seems right on and tracks/controls the K3 fine.
 
 73
 Greg
 AB7R
 
 
 On Jul 31, 2009, at 3:46 PM, Bruce McLaughlin wrote:
 
 Start up SDR.  Then push the setup button and the cat submenu button  
 when it
 comes up.  You'll then see a choice of which com port you wish to  
 use along
 with the other parameters that are necessary to be set up.  That  
 should do
 the trick.

 Bruce-W8FU

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 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gregory Fischer
 Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 6:16 PM
 To: Elecraft Reflector
 Subject: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ users?

 Looking for some assistance in setting up SDR-IQ.  I ran the setup and
 connected the IQ and it is receiving sigs from the K3's IF.

 The problem is I cannot get it to communicate with the K3 to follow
 frequency changes from the radioor when clicking on a signal to
 have it change the radios frequency.

 I would have thought that after the setup I would find something for
 the SDR-IQ in the device manager but I don't.no com port setup for
 it or anything.  Did I miss a step somewhere?

 THanks
 Greg
 AB7R

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Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ users?

2009-08-01 Thread R. Kevin Stover
Just checked one of the largest online computer parts retailers, 
newegg.com, and they've still got the E-MU 0202 selling for $99.99, same 
price I paid for it 6 months ago so I wouldn't expect other online 
retailers to be higher or lower than that by more than $5.

So, $225 + $100 = $325 or $175 + $100 = $275 for the LP-PAN kit plus 
E-MU, compared to $499.99 for the SDR-IQ at Universal.

The E-MU is processor intensive but runs real well on any machine 2 
years old or newer.
You won't be running this combo on that old PIII with USB 1.1 ports 
sitting in the corner but I'd bet the SDR-IQ wouldn't work real well 
with that kind of machine either.

Another way to get around the resource sensitivity of the E-MU 0202 is 
the Infrasonic Quartet PCI internal sound card for $139.99.

Larry is now making versions of the LP-PAN for these rigs and IF 
frequencies.
8.215 MHz (Elecraft K3)
8.83 MHz (most older Kenwoods)
9.00 MHz (TenTec Orion)
4.915 MHz (Elecraft K2)
10.7 MHz (IC-R8500/9500 and others)


Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
   
 The LP-PAN/E-MU 0202 combo, which seems to be the sweet spot, 
 are just a little more than half the price of the SDR-IQ.
 

 That's not correct.  LP-Pan = $225 (assembled), E-MU 0202 = 
 $199.95 (list) ... total $425 vs. $499 list for the SDR-IQ.  
 The difference in street prices will vary significantly 
 deepening on shopping skills and the availability of used or 
 kit options. 

 -- 
 R. Kevin Stover
 ACØH
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Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ users?

2009-08-01 Thread Alan Bloom
Just a minor correction:

On Sat, 2009-08-01 at 06:10 -0500, R. Kevin Stover wrote:
 Neither the SDR-IQ or the LP-PAN have sound cards in them.
 
 The SDR-IQ is an full blown SDR receiver which does the data conversion 
 onboard then sends the results to the computer via USB port. The SDR-IQ 
 converts the entire spectrum from 500Hz to 30MHz to IQ data at an 67MHz 
 sample rate.

Actually, while it can be tuned over the 30 MHz range, I believe it only
down-converts about 200 kHz at a time.

Al N1AL

 
 The LP-PAN is an IF to computer interface. It takes the data off the K3 
 IF port, at 8.215MHz, converts it to IQ data, and sends it on to the 
 computer sound card which samples the data at a 192KHz rate (for better 
 than average sound cards).
 
 The LP-PAN/E-MU 0202 combo, which seems to be the sweet spot, are just a 
 little more than half the price of the SDR-IQ.
 
 
 Brett Howard wrote:
  So gentlemen what is the real difference between LP-PAN and the SDR-IQ?
  Seems like the main diff that I'm seeing is that one has the sound
  card built into it
 
  Any other thoughts?

 

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Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ users?

2009-08-01 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

 The E-MU is processor intensive but runs real well on any machine 2 
 years old or newer.  You won't be running this combo on that old 
 PIII with USB 1.1 ports sitting in the corner but I'd bet the SDR-IQ 
 wouldn't work real well with that kind of machine either.

SDR-IQ runs very well on a 1.8 GHz/512 MB single core P4 class laptop 
that is brought to its knees by PowerSDR and an E-MU 0202.  There are 
a lot of sub-2 GHz singe core systems in ham shacks.  

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 



 -Original Message-
 From: R. Kevin Stover [mailto:rksto...@mchsi.com] 
 Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 11:27 AM
 To: li...@subich.com
 Cc: 'Brett Howard'; 'Elecraft Reflector'
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ users?
 
 
 Just checked one of the largest online computer parts retailers, 
 newegg.com, and they've still got the E-MU 0202 selling for 
 $99.99, same 
 price I paid for it 6 months ago so I wouldn't expect other online 
 retailers to be higher or lower than that by more than $5.
 
 So, $225 + $100 = $325 or $175 + $100 = $275 for the LP-PAN kit plus 
 E-MU, compared to $499.99 for the SDR-IQ at Universal.
 
 The E-MU is processor intensive but runs real well on any machine 2 
 years old or newer.
 You won't be running this combo on that old PIII with USB 1.1 ports 
 sitting in the corner but I'd bet the SDR-IQ wouldn't work real well 
 with that kind of machine either.
 
 Another way to get around the resource sensitivity of the 
 E-MU 0202 is 
 the Infrasonic Quartet PCI internal sound card for $139.99.
 
 Larry is now making versions of the LP-PAN for these rigs and IF 
 frequencies.
 8.215 MHz (Elecraft K3)
 8.83 MHz (most older Kenwoods)
 9.00 MHz (TenTec Orion)
 4.915 MHz (Elecraft K2)
 10.7 MHz (IC-R8500/9500 and others)
 
 
 Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

  The LP-PAN/E-MU 0202 combo, which seems to be the sweet spot,
  are just a little more than half the price of the SDR-IQ.
  
 
  That's not correct.  LP-Pan = $225 (assembled), E-MU 0202 =
  $199.95 (list) ... total $425 vs. $499 list for the SDR-IQ.  
  The difference in street prices will vary significantly 
  deepening on shopping skills and the availability of used or 
  kit options. 
 
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  ACØH

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[Elecraft] SDR-IQ users?

2009-07-31 Thread Gregory Fischer
Looking for some assistance in setting up SDR-IQ.  I ran the setup and  
connected the IQ and it is receiving sigs from the K3's IF.

The problem is I cannot get it to communicate with the K3 to follow  
frequency changes from the radioor when clicking on a signal to  
have it change the radios frequency.

I would have thought that after the setup I would find something for  
the SDR-IQ in the device manager but I don't.no com port setup for  
it or anything.  Did I miss a step somewhere?

THanks
Greg
AB7R

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Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ users?

2009-07-31 Thread Bruce McLaughlin
Start up SDR.  Then push the setup button and the cat submenu button when it
comes up.  You'll then see a choice of which com port you wish to use along
with the other parameters that are necessary to be set up.  That should do
the trick.

Bruce-W8FU

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gregory Fischer
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 6:16 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ users?

Looking for some assistance in setting up SDR-IQ.  I ran the setup and  
connected the IQ and it is receiving sigs from the K3's IF.

The problem is I cannot get it to communicate with the K3 to follow  
frequency changes from the radioor when clicking on a signal to  
have it change the radios frequency.

I would have thought that after the setup I would find something for  
the SDR-IQ in the device manager but I don't.no com port setup for  
it or anything.  Did I miss a step somewhere?

THanks
Greg
AB7R

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Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ users?

2009-07-31 Thread Gregory Fischer
Thanks Bruce.  It didn't but that's because I don't have the K3  
connected directly to the SDR-IQ.

What I had to do after some trial and error was to go to the USB  
device properties and tell it to set up a virtual com port (in device  
manager).  Then I set LP-Bridge to the same port and restarted  
everything.

Now after a little tweaking of the IF freq and zero-beating with a sig  
generator it seems right on and tracks/controls the K3 fine.

73
Greg
AB7R


On Jul 31, 2009, at 3:46 PM, Bruce McLaughlin wrote:

 Start up SDR.  Then push the setup button and the cat submenu button  
 when it
 comes up.  You'll then see a choice of which com port you wish to  
 use along
 with the other parameters that are necessary to be set up.  That  
 should do
 the trick.

 Bruce-W8FU

 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gregory Fischer
 Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 6:16 PM
 To: Elecraft Reflector
 Subject: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ users?

 Looking for some assistance in setting up SDR-IQ.  I ran the setup and
 connected the IQ and it is receiving sigs from the K3's IF.

 The problem is I cannot get it to communicate with the K3 to follow
 frequency changes from the radioor when clicking on a signal to
 have it change the radios frequency.

 I would have thought that after the setup I would find something for
 the SDR-IQ in the device manager but I don't.no com port setup for
 it or anything.  Did I miss a step somewhere?

 THanks
 Greg
 AB7R

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Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ users?

2009-07-31 Thread Brett Howard
So gentlemen what is the real difference between LP-PAN and the SDR-IQ?
Seems like the main diff that I'm seeing is that one has the sound
card built into it

Any other thoughts?

On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 15:55 -0700, Gregory Fischer wrote:
 Thanks Bruce.  It didn't but that's because I don't have the K3  
 connected directly to the SDR-IQ.
 
 What I had to do after some trial and error was to go to the USB  
 device properties and tell it to set up a virtual com port (in device  
 manager).  Then I set LP-Bridge to the same port and restarted  
 everything.
 
 Now after a little tweaking of the IF freq and zero-beating with a sig  
 generator it seems right on and tracks/controls the K3 fine.
 
 73
 Greg
 AB7R
 
 
 On Jul 31, 2009, at 3:46 PM, Bruce McLaughlin wrote:
 
  Start up SDR.  Then push the setup button and the cat submenu button  
  when it
  comes up.  You'll then see a choice of which com port you wish to  
  use along
  with the other parameters that are necessary to be set up.  That  
  should do
  the trick.
 
  Bruce-W8FU
 
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  [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gregory Fischer
  Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 6:16 PM
  To: Elecraft Reflector
  Subject: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ users?
 
  Looking for some assistance in setting up SDR-IQ.  I ran the setup and
  connected the IQ and it is receiving sigs from the K3's IF.
 
  The problem is I cannot get it to communicate with the K3 to follow
  frequency changes from the radioor when clicking on a signal to
  have it change the radios frequency.
 
  I would have thought that after the setup I would find something for
  the SDR-IQ in the device manager but I don't.no com port setup for
  it or anything.  Did I miss a step somewhere?
 
  THanks
  Greg
  AB7R
 
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Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ vs LP-Pan

2009-07-31 Thread Steve Ellington
I think you guys are talking about 2 different products. SDR-IQ is made by 
RF Space. It's not an LP-PAN. It would be nice to have an in depth 
comparison between these units. I do know that the IQ has no direction to 
the K3's comm port and no dedicated sound card but that's about it.
Steve
N4LQ
n...@carolina.rr.com
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From: Gregory Fischer a...@cablespeed.com
To: Bruce McLaughlin bmcla...@bex.net
Cc: 'Elecraft Reflector' elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ users?


 Thanks Bruce.  It didn't but that's because I don't have the K3
 connected directly to the SDR-IQ.

 What I had to do after some trial and error was to go to the USB
 device properties and tell it to set up a virtual com port (in device
 manager).  Then I set LP-Bridge to the same port and restarted
 everything.

 Now after a little tweaking of the IF freq and zero-beating with a sig
 generator it seems right on and tracks/controls the K3 fine.

 73
 Greg
 AB7R


 On Jul 31, 2009, at 3:46 PM, Bruce McLaughlin wrote:

 Start up SDR.  Then push the setup button and the cat submenu button
 when it
 comes up.  You'll then see a choice of which com port you wish to
 use along
 with the other parameters that are necessary to be set up.  That
 should do
 the trick.

 Bruce-W8FU

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 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gregory Fischer
 Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 6:16 PM
 To: Elecraft Reflector
 Subject: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ users?

 Looking for some assistance in setting up SDR-IQ.  I ran the setup and
 connected the IQ and it is receiving sigs from the K3's IF.

 The problem is I cannot get it to communicate with the K3 to follow
 frequency changes from the radioor when clicking on a signal to
 have it change the radios frequency.

 I would have thought that after the setup I would find something for
 the SDR-IQ in the device manager but I don't.no com port setup for
 it or anything.  Did I miss a step somewhere?

 THanks
 Greg
 AB7R

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[Elecraft] SDR-IQ + K2

2008-09-23 Thread Chuck
Mike wrote:
+++
I was wondering if anyone on the list is using the
SDR-IQ software
 defined radio and what their thoughts are on it.
 
Can CW Skimmer be used with it? Does it have to run
through my K2? So
 and so forth. I don't use cw skimmer but I do contest
a lot and would
 like to know how much woule it really help.
 

Picked up a SDR-IQ some time ago for use as a general
coverage SW receiver. The SDR-IQ is the size of a pack
of playing cards. The packaged control software,
SpectraVue, is highly capable and works beautifully
with a plain vanilla, 5 year old Dell laptop (XP
Pro)through one of the USB ports and using the on
board soundcard. Highly recommend the SDR-IQ for on
the go HF, 500 hz to 30 mhz, all mode SWLing (AM, USB,
LSB, DSB, CW). Comparable in performance to a R-71A.

Several months ago added a Cliffton Laboratories
Z1 IF buffer-amplifier / tap to the K2 (w/KIO2
RS-232 interface)and frequently use the SDR-IQ as a
panoramic spectrum monitor. This is an easy
modification and Cliffton Labs provides outstanding
support (also highly recommend).

Typically, use the SDR-IQ + K2 combination to monitor
about 150 khz of spectrum for general activity. For
example, in the evenings, generally observe 30 to 40
cw sigs in the segment from 7.0 to 7.15 mhz)-- 4 or 5
closely spaced is a good tip that dx is present.  A
mouse click at that location on the laptop screen will
take the K2 instantly there to check what is going on.
 More often, use the SDR-IQ to simply check for a
clear space to CQ or to find an interesting QSO to
listen in on (the laptop screen resolution is plenty
adequate to visually decode cw if desired). In
summary, the SDR-IQ and K2 (with Z1) work and
track very well together.

Have not used cw skimmer but, could. Not of interest
for contesting as this technology, imho, is assisted
whereas just me and the radio (plus laptop with no
spotting clusters attached)is preferred for this
activity. This month's issue of the NCJ has several
very good articles on SDR-IQ setup and utilization.
73, Chuck AF4PP   




  
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[Elecraft] SDR-IQ info.

2008-09-22 Thread Michael Harvey

I was wondering if anyone on the list is using the SDR-IQ software defined 
radio and what their thoughts are on it.
 
Can CW Skimmer be used with it? Does it have to run through my K2? So and so 
forth. I don't use cw skimmer but I do contest a lot and would like to know how 
much woule it really help.
 
The SDR-IQ web site seems to stir more questions that it answers.
 
Thanks in advance!
 
Mike
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