[Elecraft] Stick PC and Elecraft Software/Netlogger

[Joseph Shuman via Elecraft]

Anyone used a Stick PC in the shack with KX2/3 or KXPA100 software?  With 
Netlogger?  Has anyone tried to change the OS to Linux?  Looking for experience 
prior to purchase.  Thx in advance.

Keeping Watch-
shu
Joe Shuman, NZ8P

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cares a whole awful lot, 
nothing is going to get better. 
It’s not. -Dr. Seuss
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[Elecraft] Software for K4-PC operation

[John Harper]

The FAQ mentions that the K4 will be able to be controlled by a PC via an
ethernet connection. What software will be running on the PC to accomplish
this?

Tnx/73,

John AE5X
https://ae5x.blogspot.com
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Re: [Elecraft] software problem on K3S - software lose 2nd speaker!

[Nr4c]

DO NOT PLUG A MONO PLUG INTO SPEAKER OUTPUT!!!

Yes I am YELLING!

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On May 12, 2019, at 7:38 AM, IK4EWX  wrote:
> 
> I dont understand why sometime, it has happened various time, the K3S lose
> the 2nd loudspeaker audio and when  I go in config menu I find that it has
> returned setting SPKRS = 1 - autonomously modified by the K3S - when before
> he was  setted SPKRS = 2.
> I have firmware 5.67, hope new firmware will solve this problem.
> Ian IK4EWX
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[Elecraft] software problem on K3S - software lose 2nd speaker!

[Paul Kirley]

SPKRS can switch to 1 automatically if you use mono speakers or there is 
an accidental short between the right speaker leads.  Check your speaker 
plug and wiring.


From firmware release notes:
**
MCU 3.14 / DSP 2.16, 5-9-2009

* SPEAKER PROTECTION: If you’re set up for stereo speakers
(CONFIG:SPKRS = 2), but insert a mono speaker plug, the right speaker
output will be shorted to ground. This can cause excess current drain
if you turn volume up to high levels. The K3 now detects this condition,
automatically turning off the right channel (SPKRS = 1).
*

73, Paul W8TM
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[Elecraft] software problem on K3S - software lose 2nd speaker!

[IK4EWX]

I dont understand why sometime, it has happened various time, the K3S lose
the 2nd loudspeaker audio and when  I go in config menu I find that it has
returned setting SPKRS = 1 - autonomously modified by the K3S - when before
he was  setted SPKRS = 2.
I have firmware 5.67, hope new firmware will solve this problem.
Ian IK4EWX




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[Elecraft] Software control of RX antenna selection

[Mpridesti via Elecraft]

Have an inquiry with the N1MM logging group but thought I would raise the 
question here. 

Is it possible to toggle the RX antenna selection via the Keyboard with N1MM 
software?

Regards,
Mark, K1RX


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Re: [Elecraft] Software suggestions for KX3

[tomb18]

HiI don't think I ever got an email from you. However, in almost all cases, of 
double images, it is traceable to an issue with the cable or a 2.5 mm to 3.5 mm 
adapter. Use an ohm meter and then follow the connection, making sure it is 
providing the stereo signal from the kx3 to your sound card. The adapters are 
prone to bad connections as are 2.5mm Jack's it seems. If it is stereo then 
follow the guide in the win4k3 manual to ensure that you selected 192khz, 24 
bit 2 channel in the recording options for your sound device. It all comes down 
to this only. 73 Tom  va2fsq.com 

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 Original message From: ohturoey  Date: 
2017-11-09  2:04 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: 
[Elecraft] Software suggestions for KX3 
Dear Sir
I have the same setup as you with the KX3 win4k3 and the steinberg UR22mkII
I have tried for a long time to get the UR22 to work with my panadapter in
win4k3 but with no success
I get a double image, left and right of centerline is the same, have tried
to adjust but I cant seem to figure it out, if you can explain your cabling
setup between UR22mkII and KX3 and your panadapter settings for tuning the
bands it would be greatly appreciated 
please don't be shy to explain it as you would do to a child, this unit has
added a few grey hairs to where its already to many
picture does also help

Best regards
Ove
VA7OHT/VE0OHT



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Re: [Elecraft] Software suggestions for KX3

[ohturoey]

Dear Sir
I have the same setup as you with the KX3 win4k3 and the steinberg UR22mkII
I have tried for a long time to get the UR22 to work with my panadapter in
win4k3 but with no success
I get a double image, left and right of centerline is the same, have tried
to adjust but I cant seem to figure it out, if you can explain your cabling
setup between UR22mkII and KX3 and your panadapter settings for tuning the
bands it would be greatly appreciated 
please don't be shy to explain it as you would do to a child, this unit has
added a few grey hairs to where its already to many
picture does also help

Best regards
Ove
VA7OHT/VE0OHT



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Re: [Elecraft] Software Additions

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

Could the Elecraft radio software be changed so that K3/KSs radios
(equipped with the proper AM or FM filter) have a "WDATA" mode that 
allows receiving and transmitting this 5 kHz bandwidth?

The K3 has a 4.25 KHz hardware audio filter following the ADC.  Using
either the AM or FM filter, bandwidth can already be set to 4 KHz
(Shift=2.10, Width=4.00).

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 10/15/2017 4:01 PM, John Hendricks wrote:

As I grow older with hearing loss I have become interested in the multitude
of digital modes that are available because they don't rely on good
hearing.  A bandwidth of up to 5 kHz is used by the popular WSJT-X
software.  Could the Elecraft radio software be changed so that K3/KSs
radios (equipped with the proper AM or FM filter) have a "WDATA" mode that
allows receiving and transmitting this 5 kHz bandwidth?  It would also be
nice too do the same thing for the KX3/KX2 but it might not be possible
after looking at the radio design.

John K7JLT
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[Elecraft] Software Additions

[John Hendricks]

As I grow older with hearing loss I have become interested in the multitude
of digital modes that are available because they don't rely on good
hearing.  A bandwidth of up to 5 kHz is used by the popular WSJT-X
software.  Could the Elecraft radio software be changed so that K3/KSs
radios (equipped with the proper AM or FM filter) have a "WDATA" mode that
allows receiving and transmitting this 5 kHz bandwidth?  It would also be
nice too do the same thing for the KX3/KX2 but it might not be possible
after looking at the radio design.

John K7JLT
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Re: [Elecraft] Software updates

[Wayne Burdick]

The differences between K3 and K3S firmware features are very minor, all having 
to do with hardware addressing. For example, the K3S has a second attenuator 
section. Other than this, there is no difference in functionality.

The reason there are two different .hex files in the load package is that older 
K3's had a different display controller. This affects so much of the code that 
I build it two different ways. K3 Utility detects the controller type and loads 
the associated image. 

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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> On Feb 24, 2017, at 5:23 AM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> Knut,
> 
> The functions of the K3 and K3S are the same, and will likely remain the 
> same.  The differences are in the hardware, so a 2nd MCU file has been in 
> place for some time to allow for a change in the microcontroller used in 
> later K3s and the K3S.
> I can envision this being expanded, not to change the functions, but to 
> support minor differences in the hardware.  Part of the Elecraft "magic", 
> such things are transparent to the user.
> 
> My point is that K3Utility sorts it all out, and does not have to be visible 
> to the user, because the same steps to update firmware are used.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 2/24/2017 7:24 AM, ab2tc wrote:
>> Hi Don,
>> 
>> Hold on a second. Up to this point the firmware for the K3 and the K3S has
>> been exactly the same. The firmware figures out at run time which features
>> are available whether it being in the K3 or the  K3S and behaves
>> accordingly. Is there something changed here? That would really complicate
>> things.
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Re: [Elecraft] Software updates

[Don Wilhelm]

Knut,

The functions of the K3 and K3S are the same, and will likely remain the 
same.  The differences are in the hardware, so a 2nd MCU file has been 
in place for some time to allow for a change in the microcontroller used 
in later K3s and the K3S.
I can envision this being expanded, not to change the functions, but to 
support minor differences in the hardware.  Part of the Elecraft 
"magic", such things are transparent to the user.


My point is that K3Utility sorts it all out, and does not have to be 
visible to the user, because the same steps to update firmware are used.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/24/2017 7:24 AM, ab2tc wrote:

Hi Don,

Hold on a second. Up to this point the firmware for the K3 and the K3S has
been exactly the same. The firmware figures out at run time which features
are available whether it being in the K3 or the  K3S and behaves
accordingly. Is there something changed here? That would really complicate
things.

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Re: [Elecraft] Software updates

[ab2tc]

Hi Don,

Hold on a second. Up to this point the firmware for the K3 and the K3S has
been exactly the same. The firmware figures out at run time which features
are available whether it being in the K3 or the  K3S and behaves
accordingly. Is there something changed here? That would really complicate
things.

AB2TC - Knut
Don Wilhelm wrote
> Ted,
> 
> There already is a difference.  K3 Utility figures out which you have 
> and loads the matching firmware when there is a difference.  It should 
> be seamless whether you have a K3 or K3S.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 2/23/2017 9:51 AM, Ted Edwards W3TB wrote:
>> As I read of updates -- and one specifically saying K3S -- is there going
>> to be a difference coming between what applies to K3S and the K3 itself?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
> 





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Re: [Elecraft] Software updates

[Don Wilhelm]

Ted,

There already is a difference.  K3 Utility figures out which you have 
and loads the matching firmware when there is a difference.  It should 
be seamless whether you have a K3 or K3S.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/23/2017 9:51 AM, Ted Edwards W3TB wrote:

As I read of updates -- and one specifically saying K3S -- is there going
to be a difference coming between what applies to K3S and the K3 itself?

Thanks!


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[Elecraft] Software updates

[Ted Edwards W3TB]

As I read of updates -- and one specifically saying K3S -- is there going
to be a difference coming between what applies to K3S and the K3 itself?

Thanks!

-- 
73 de Ted Edwards, W3TB and GØPWW

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"Do today what others won't,
so you can do tomorrow what others can't."
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[Elecraft] Software testing

[Mike Reublin NF4L]

I've written a settings saver for the K3. It should work on the K3S, but I 
don't have one to test it on. The program reads every Menu and Config setting 
that's readable, and stores it in a file. You can read a second radio and 
compare the settings side-by-side. The program puts the radio into Tech Mode, 
and switches between SSB and CW. The program DOES NOT load settings back into 
the radio, and I have no plans to have it do so.

I'm looking for some hardy testers. If interested contact me off list, using 
[K3Config] in the subject.

Please let me know your operating system(Windows XP thru Win10), your MCU 
version, and whether you have the sub receiver. I need both K3 and K3S users.

73, Mike NF4L


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Re: [Elecraft] Software suggestions for KX3

[Charlie T, K3ICH]

I can appreciate all the utility of the other hardware & programs, but it's 
hard to beat just being able to punch the "ON" button and be up & running 
with the K3/P3 in a matter of seconds.


Push buttons can definitely spoil you, to the point where having to twist a 
switch knob instead is annoying. (HI)


73, Charlie k3ICH




- Original Message - 
From: "Todd - k1tm via Elecraft" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Software suggestions for KX3



Another vote for Win4K3suite plus DXlabs.  Asus Xonar U7 for the sound
system.  See the sound card comparison on Telepost Inc.
http://www.telepostinc.com/soundcards.html

With the above combo, you get point and click tuning and the integration 
of

third party apps and other hardware/software is great.

73, Todd.



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Re: [Elecraft] Software suggestions for KX3

[Todd - k1tm via Elecraft]

Another vote for Win4K3suite plus DXlabs.  Asus Xonar U7 for the sound
system.  See the sound card comparison on Telepost Inc.
http://www.telepostinc.com/soundcards.html

With the above combo, you get point and click tuning and the integration of
third party apps and other hardware/software is great.  

73, Todd.



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Re: [Elecraft] Software suggestions for KX3

[Doug Ellmore]

Mark,

I have both the KX3 and K3.  My current software configuration is to use
Win4K3 ( http://va2fsq.com/ ) as the main software.  It provides a
panadapter scope (interfacing a Steinberg UR22 USB Soundcard to get a full
192khz spectrum) to the KX3/K3 I/Q.  I then use Ham Radio Deluxe HRDLogger
and Rotor Control.  Win4K3 allows me to log Qs from the Win4K3 terminal
into HRD and ADIF.  Chasing DX, I can use the built in CW/PSK/RTTY features
of Win4K3 and the KX3/K3 to chase and operate.

In contesting mode, I still use Win4K3 with N1MM+.  I also use cwskimmer.
Win4K launches skimmer, HRD, and other apps.  It will put spots from
cwskimmer/wintelnetx into panadapter display.

Win4K3 works with ClubLog to see your worked/confirmed to help you see if a
new one in the spots is need or not.

I will email you a configuration PDF.

Win4K can be used in a small discrete way or to help you integrate all
these other apps.

I used Win4K flawlessly this weekend during the ARRL DX Phone contest to
find slots to call cq/run.

Need any other info, drop me a note.

Doug NA1DX
na...@arrl.net


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Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2015 10:56:52 -0600
From: Mark Tellez 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Software suggestions for KX3
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hello all,

I posted a question on here a few weeks ago about software for controlling
and enhancing the KX3 experience.   I had previous experience with
MacLogger and because of that and a lack of clarity on my part many of the
people who responded assumed I was currently running an Apple which I am
NOT.  I am not running iOS.  That was my issue for not specifying which
system I was running on.  I am using a Win7 dual core laptop.

I have also tried HRD and found it pretty good but now that HRD is charging
almost a $100 for their software and even ongoing support I figured there
might be better options available.

I am primarily interested in following active calling frequencies (DX
clusters) and general controls.  Waterfall displays would be really nice
also.

What do other users like and recommend?

Thanks,

Mark
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Re: [Elecraft] Software suggestions for KX3

[Rick Prather]

Mark,

Another vote for DXLabs.

I keep a Windows laptop in my Mac centric ham shack for the sole purpose of
running it.

If you knew how much I dislike all versions of Windows you would really
know what a recommendation that is!

Rick
K6LE


On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Mark Tellez  wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I posted a question on here a few weeks ago about software for controlling
> and enhancing the KX3 experience.   I had previous experience with
> MacLogger and because of that and a lack of clarity on my part many of the
> people who responded assumed I was currently running an Apple which I am
> NOT.  I am not running iOS.  That was my issue for not specifying which
> system I was running on.  I am using a Win7 dual core laptop.
>
> I have also tried HRD and found it pretty good but now that HRD is charging
> almost a $100 for their software and even ongoing support I figured there
> might be better options available.
>
> I am primarily interested in following active calling frequencies (DX
> clusters) and general controls.  Waterfall displays would be really nice
> also.
>
> What do other users like and recommend?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark
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Re: [Elecraft] Software suggestions for KX3

[Barry LaZar]

Mark,
 You can use the last free version of HRD. It does work with the 
KX3. Just set it up for K3 operation. However, If you want to do it to 
the max, download a copy of Win4K3, $50, and buy a USB sound card that 
runs 24 bit sampling at 96KHz or better sample rate. They run anywhere 
from $75 to $150. That will give you spectrum display, radio control, 
CW/RTTY/PSK31 controls and macros, and an interface to HRD. The Spotting 
software in HRD will connect to the DX clusters and put your radio on 
frequency by just clicking. You will need to download a copy of com0com 
for port replication, but that is free.


73,
Barry
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Hello all,

I posted a question on here a few weeks ago about software for controlling
and enhancing the KX3 experience.   I had previous experience with
MacLogger and because of that and a lack of clarity on my part many of the
people who responded assumed I was currently running an Apple which I am
NOT.  I am not running iOS.  That was my issue for not specifying which
system I was running on.  I am using a Win7 dual core laptop.

I have also tried HRD and found it pretty good but now that HRD is charging
almost a $100 for their software and even ongoing support I figured there
might be better options available.

I am primarily interested in following active calling frequencies (DX
clusters) and general controls.  Waterfall displays would be really nice
also.

What do other users like and recommend?

Thanks,

Mark
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Re: [Elecraft] Software suggestions for KX3

[steve]

The two I would recommend are fldigi and DXlab {both free}...  Try DXlab 
first - it has ALL the bells.  Both are updated often!

73, steve WB3LGC

On 09-Mar-15 12:56 PM, Mark Tellez wrote:

Hello all,

I posted a question on here a few weeks ago about software for controlling
and enhancing the KX3 experience.   I had previous experience with
MacLogger and because of that and a lack of clarity on my part many of the
people who responded assumed I was currently running an Apple which I am
NOT.  I am not running iOS.  That was my issue for not specifying which
system I was running on.  I am using a Win7 dual core laptop.

I have also tried HRD and found it pretty good but now that HRD is charging
almost a $100 for their software and even ongoing support I figured there
might be better options available.

I am primarily interested in following active calling frequencies (DX
clusters) and general controls.  Waterfall displays would be really nice
also.

What do other users like and recommend?

Thanks,

Mark
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Re: [Elecraft] Software suggestions for KX3

[Matt Zilmer]

I use Fldigi for almost everything digital.  It's a very versatile
program, ported to Windoze and Linux (maybe other OSs?).  Fldigi and
its suite (flrig, flarq, etc.) are free, and fairly well-maintained
and -documented.  Fldigi will also maintain a log for you, but I've
not used this feature personally.

>From your call, I'd guess you're Army MARS.  In NMCM, most of our
socal members (SCA) use fldigi for MT63 on traffic nets and Thor/FSK
for our 24-hour TransPac net.  For official stuff, we use M110A, of
course.

73!
matt
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On Mon, 9 Mar 2015 10:56:52 -0600, you wrote:

>Hello all,
>
>I posted a question on here a few weeks ago about software for controlling
>and enhancing the KX3 experience.   I had previous experience with
>MacLogger and because of that and a lack of clarity on my part many of the
>people who responded assumed I was currently running an Apple which I am
>NOT.  I am not running iOS.  That was my issue for not specifying which
>system I was running on.  I am using a Win7 dual core laptop.
>
>I have also tried HRD and found it pretty good but now that HRD is charging
>almost a $100 for their software and even ongoing support I figured there
>might be better options available.
>
>I am primarily interested in following active calling frequencies (DX
>clusters) and general controls.  Waterfall displays would be really nice
>also.
>
>What do other users like and recommend?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark
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[Elecraft] Software suggestions for KX3

[Mark Tellez]

Hello all,

I posted a question on here a few weeks ago about software for controlling
and enhancing the KX3 experience.   I had previous experience with
MacLogger and because of that and a lack of clarity on my part many of the
people who responded assumed I was currently running an Apple which I am
NOT.  I am not running iOS.  That was my issue for not specifying which
system I was running on.  I am using a Win7 dual core laptop.

I have also tried HRD and found it pretty good but now that HRD is charging
almost a $100 for their software and even ongoing support I figured there
might be better options available.

I am primarily interested in following active calling frequencies (DX
clusters) and general controls.  Waterfall displays would be really nice
also.

What do other users like and recommend?

Thanks,

Mark
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Re: [Elecraft] Software for KX3

[PY2SEX - Alex]

That looks nice..
I used the N1MM plus, but I don't remember which version it was. I can say
that I have updated before leave on 22.11.2014.
I will try that on my next portable activation.

Thanks for the good news.

73
Alex

On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Richard Ferch  wrote:

> Alex,
>
> What version of N1MM Logger were you using? If you were using N1MM Classic
> or an N1MM Plus version older than 1.0.4429, those versions use / as a
> separator between commands. Starting with Plus version 1.0.4429, the
> command separator has been changed to \, and it is now possible to send a /
> character within a KY command text string.
>
> 73,
> Rich VE3KI
>
>
> PY2SEX wrote:
>
>  I tried to use N1MM with some macros but I couldn't figure it out how to
>> make KX3 transmit the "/".
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] Software for KX3

[Richard Ferch]

Alex,

What version of N1MM Logger were you using? If you were using N1MM 
Classic or an N1MM Plus version older than 1.0.4429, those versions use 
/ as a separator between commands. Starting with Plus version 1.0.4429, 
the command separator has been changed to \, and it is now possible to 
send a / character within a KY command text string.


73,
Rich VE3KI


PY2SEX wrote:


I tried to use N1MM with some macros but I couldn't figure it out how to
make KX3 transmit the "/".


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Re: [Elecraft] Software for KX3

[Barry LaZar]

Alex,
There is a way to do it, I don't; As I recall it was too much 
trouble. I use a WinKeyer USB with N1MM when I contest. I have zero 
problems this way. I know it's another piece of gear, but the ease is 
great and I can stop sending by just touching my key or add information.


73,
Barry
K3NDM

On 1/28/2015 9:34 AM, PY2SEX - Alex wrote:

I would like to know a Contest/DXPedition software.
I tried to use N1MM with some macros but I couldn't figure it out how to
make KX3 transmit the "/".
During my stay in Curacao I had to use the keyer because of that. :)
For me, this was the only thing that bothered me, sometimes the KX3 keyer
too, but if I had the computer to TX, this would not be so bad. :)
Does anybody knows if it is possible to fix that?

73
Alex

On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Neil Zampella  wrote:


As was mentioned, the software you want to use depends on what your plans
are.

I've used Ham Radio Deluxe, and the DX Suite's Commander with the KX3 with
no problems.  I've also used some of the digital mode software that
interfaces with both, WSJT-X for instance, and it works flawlessly.

What I like about the digital modes with the KX3, is all you really need
is the connections from the KX3 to the computer, although I use an external
USB sound card as it has a better audio frequency range, as well as
providing feedback loop isolation.

Neil,
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Re: [Elecraft] Software for KX3

[PY2SEX - Alex]

I would like to know a Contest/DXPedition software.
I tried to use N1MM with some macros but I couldn't figure it out how to
make KX3 transmit the "/".
During my stay in Curacao I had to use the keyer because of that. :)
For me, this was the only thing that bothered me, sometimes the KX3 keyer
too, but if I had the computer to TX, this would not be so bad. :)
Does anybody knows if it is possible to fix that?

73
Alex

On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Neil Zampella  wrote:

> As was mentioned, the software you want to use depends on what your plans
> are.
>
> I've used Ham Radio Deluxe, and the DX Suite's Commander with the KX3 with
> no problems.  I've also used some of the digital mode software that
> interfaces with both, WSJT-X for instance, and it works flawlessly.
>
> What I like about the digital modes with the KX3, is all you really need
> is the connections from the KX3 to the computer, although I use an external
> USB sound card as it has a better audio frequency range, as well as
> providing feedback loop isolation.
>
> Neil,
> KB3TVU
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Re: [Elecraft] Software for KX3

[Neil Zampella]

As was mentioned, the software you want to use depends on what your 
plans are.


I've used Ham Radio Deluxe, and the DX Suite's Commander with the KX3 
with no problems.  I've also used some of the digital mode software that 
interfaces with both, WSJT-X for instance, and it works flawlessly.


What I like about the digital modes with the KX3, is all you really need 
is the connections from the KX3 to the computer, although I use an 
external USB sound card as it has a better audio frequency range, as 
well as providing feedback loop isolation.


Neil,
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Re: [Elecraft] software

[Wes]

Except you need a Mac, right?

On Jan 27, 2015, at 9:47 AM, Rick Prather  wrote:

> Mark,
> 
> A lot depends on what your operating interests are.
> 
> For example, if you are a DX'er I would recommend RUMLog.  Especially with
> a K3/KX3.
> 
> It does a superior job of tracking DX, spotting summary and LoTW handling.
> 
> And, the price is right!
> 
> 73,
> 
> Rick
> K6LE
> 
> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 8:00 PM, Mark Tellez  wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I am curious.
>> 
>> I am fairly new to the KX3.   I have used several software packages in the
>> past with my base stations including MacLogger and HRD.   What do people
>> use with the KX-3 and why?
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] software

[Mike Flowers]

But know to be used by pirates ... ;>)

- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, President - NCDXC 


-Original Message-
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Sounds positively intoxicating, Rick :-)

Phil W7OX

On 1/27/15 8:47 AM, Rick Prather wrote:
> Mark,
>
> A lot depends on what your operating interests are.
>
> For example, if you are a DX'er I would recommend RUMLog.  Especially 
> with a K3/KX3.
>
> It does a superior job of tracking DX, spotting summary and LoTW handling.
>
> And, the price is right!
>
> 73,
>
> Rick
> K6LE

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Re: [Elecraft] software

[Phil Wheeler]

Sounds positively intoxicating, Rick :-)

Phil W7OX

On 1/27/15 8:47 AM, Rick Prather wrote:

Mark,

A lot depends on what your operating interests are.

For example, if you are a DX'er I would recommend RUMLog.  Especially with
a K3/KX3.

It does a superior job of tracking DX, spotting summary and LoTW handling.

And, the price is right!

73,

Rick
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Re: [Elecraft] software

[Rick Prather]

Mark,

A lot depends on what your operating interests are.

For example, if you are a DX'er I would recommend RUMLog.  Especially with
a K3/KX3.

It does a superior job of tracking DX, spotting summary and LoTW handling.

And, the price is right!

73,

Rick
K6LE

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> Hello all,
>
> I am curious.
>
> I am fairly new to the KX3.   I have used several software packages in the
> past with my base stations including MacLogger and HRD.   What do people
> use with the KX-3 and why?
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> Mark
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Re: [Elecraft] software

[David Ahrendts]

Mark, I’m just a few months into the wonderful KX3 + PX3 + KAT500 (brag) — love 
all things Elecraft. MacLoggerDX works very well. FLDigi also is well matched. 
Bit of a learning curve on FLDigi, but excellent signal reports and substantial 
contacts. Happy to assist if you need.

David Ahrendts, KC0XT, LA

> On Jan 26, 2015, at 8:00 PM, Mark Tellez  wrote:
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> Hello all,
> 
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> 
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> past with my base stations including MacLogger and HRD.   What do people
> use with the KX-3 and why?
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] software

[k3ndm]

Mark,
 I use Win4k3 with HRD and CW Skimmer. This collection integrate very 
smoothly and allows me a fair amount of flexibility. I can do RTTY, CW, or PSK 
using the radio's inherent capability using the terminal window of Win4k3. For 
contesting, I swap out HRD for N1MM contest S/W.

73,
Barry
K3NDM



Original Message===

Hello all,

I am curious.

I am fairly new to the KX3.   I have used several software packages in the
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use with the KX-3 and why?

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Re: [Elecraft] software

[James Bennett]

Hi Mark,

I have used MLDX with my KX3 in the past and it worked very well. I also have a 
K3/P3/KAT500/KPA500 that I use MLDX with.

However, I got spoiled by that dang P3 and wanted something like it for the 
KX3! This was before Elecraft announced the PX3. So, I downloaded and installed 
a copy of NaP3 (free). It runs on my 27” iMac under Win 8.1, which runs under 
VMWare Fusion - very nicely, I may add. Needed some sort of logging over on the 
Windows side, so I downloaded and installed Log4OM (also free). I like having 
the large Pan Display of NaP3 on the KX3; I log my KX3 QSO’s into Log4OM and 
when I’m done, export them in ADIF up to Dropbox and then import them into MLDX 
over on the mac side of things. A little extra work, but it does work.

73, Jim / W6JHB
Folsom, CA


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[Elecraft] software

[Mark Tellez]

Hello all,

I am curious.

I am fairly new to the KX3.   I have used several software packages in the
past with my base stations including MacLogger and HRD.   What do people
use with the KX-3 and why?

Mark
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Re: [Elecraft] Software perfection

[Ken]

>> 
>> Software written by the world's greatest programmer and tested by the
>> world's greatest software tester would still be something I would never
>> risk my life with.


Weinberg's Second Law: If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote 
programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization.


Ken WA8JXM (retired programmer)
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Re: [Elecraft] Software perfection

[Mike Markowski]

Straight out of college I was one of 100+ design engineers on the Mode-S 
FAA air traffic control system - multiprocessor, fault-tolerant system, 
etc.  The design docs (let alone software) filled volumes.  Much as I 
hope there were zero bugs in the complex system, it was after all 
designed by people...


One thing I recall is that the FAA contract permitted 1 second of down 
time per year.  :-)


73,
Mike ab3ap

On 01/16/2015 10:28 PM, Dauer, Edward wrote:

You do exactly that every time you fly (commercial).

But it didn¹t stop me either.  That¹s what the humans are for.

Ted, KN1CBR (ex-CFI)


Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 19:40:54 -0700
From: Doug Person via Elecraft 

[...] Software written by the world's greatest programmer and tested by the
world's greatest software tester would still be something I would never
risk my life with.

73, Doug -- K0DXV

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[Elecraft] Software perfection

[Dauer, Edward]

You do exactly that every time you fly (commercial).

But it didn¹t stop me either.  That¹s what the humans are for.

Ted, KN1CBR (ex-CFI)


>
>--
>
>Message: 26
>Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 19:40:54 -0700
>From: Doug Person via Elecraft 
>To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 bugs
>Message-ID: <54b9cbb6.3060...@aol.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>
>After 40 years as a programmer in just about every imaginable platform
>and environment, I would agree.
>This statement is absolutely true.  To those who have never attempted
>programming, its hard to fully imagine just how complicated software
>really is.
>
>Software written by the world's greatest programmer and tested by the
>world's greatest software tester would still be something I would never
>risk my life with.
>
>73, Doug -- K0DXV
>
>

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[Elecraft] Software modifications

[Jim Lowman]

I'm a big fan of open-source software but, as a software 
developer/supervisor with more than 30 years experience, I think it's 
worthwhile to know the big picture before messing with software that 
another developer wrote.

Sometimes it's not obvious why a segment of code exists.

And yes, I've rewritten others' software before, because it was easier 
to do that than to try to maintain it.


73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 8/19/2014 12:57 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
Leaving the military in 1972, I supported my family in control system, 
communications, and software engineering, mainly for the military.  In 
due time I started leading more than one project at a time.  Since the 
open-source discussion came up on the list, I've combed my memory of 
all those projects past.  So far, I cannot come up with a single 
programmer [later "software engineer"] who, at least once, did *not* 
come to me and say, "The code's a mess, best thing to do is rewrite 
all of it."


I'll let everyone know if I remember one. :-))

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
- www.cqp.org


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[Elecraft] Raspberry Pi Elecraft software?

[Andrew Robertson]

I'd like to plead / beg / request that the Linux Elecraft KX3 Utility be ported 
to the Raspberry Pi platform.  This little computer would be *perfect* for 
remote operation with the KX3!  Thanks.
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Re: [Elecraft] Software to graph antenna SWR

[Dick Dickinson]

K3_EZ will do that with a K3.  It's a Windows program.

 

73, 

Dick - KA5KKT

  _  

Some time ago I had this program that you could use to sweep the antenna and

produce a printout of the SWR among other utilities for the K3. I have

googled but cannot locate it anybody remember what it was called? It was a

windows program.

 

73, Peter VK3IJ

 

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Re: [Elecraft] Software to graph antenna SWR

[peterc281]

Jackpot Rick... Thanks

Christmas Greetings from Down Under

Peter



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Re: [Elecraft] Software to graph antenna SWR

[Rick Bates]

K3EZ perhaps?

Merry Christmas,
Rick wa6nhc

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Some time ago I had this program that you could use to sweep the antenna and
produce a printout of the SWR among other utilities for the K3. I have
googled but cannot locate it anybody remember what it was called? It was a
windows program.

73, Peter VK3IJ





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[Elecraft] Software to graph antenna SWR

[peterc281]

Some time ago I had this program that you could use to sweep the antenna and
produce a printout of the SWR among other utilities for the K3. I have
googled but cannot locate it anybody remember what it was called? It was a
windows program.

73, Peter VK3IJ





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Re: [Elecraft] Software for K3 remote

[Mitch Wolfson DJØQN]

The new version of TRX-Manager has that as well:



73,
Mitch DJ0QN

On 20.05.2013 16:56, Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote:

Hello

  


Is there any software to control K3 remotely that show you the front of the
K3?

  


Like using a K3 at base station but in a software

  


Thanks,

Jorge

CX6VM/CW5W

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Re: [Elecraft] Software for K3 remote

[Jorge Diez - CX6VM]

Thanks Dick!

73,
Jorge
CX6VM/CW5W

On Mon, 20 May 2013 08:10:59 -0700, "Dick Dievendorff"
 wrote:

>Pignology has one:
>
>http://shop.pignology.net/K3UI-Windows_p_29.html
>
>73 de Dick, K6KR
>
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
>[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - 
>CX6VM
>Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 7:56 AM
>To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>Subject: [Elecraft] Software for K3 remote
>
>Hello
>
> 
>
>Is there any software to control K3 remotely that show you the front of 
>the K3?
>
> 
>
>Like using a K3 at base station but in a software
>
> 
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jorge
>
>CX6VM/CW5W
[snip]

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Re: [Elecraft] Software for K3 remote

[Tom H Childers]

Very Nice!

73,
Tom
Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
ARRL Lifetime Member
QCWA Lifetime Member

On Mon, 20 May 2013 08:10:59 -0700, "Dick Dievendorff"
 wrote:

>Pignology has one:
>
>http://shop.pignology.net/K3UI-Windows_p_29.html
>
>73 de Dick, K6KR
>
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
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>[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM
>Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 7:56 AM
>To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>Subject: [Elecraft] Software for K3 remote
>
>Hello
>
> 
>
>Is there any software to control K3 remotely that show you the front of the
>K3?
>
> 
>
>Like using a K3 at base station but in a software
>
> 
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jorge
>
>CX6VM/CW5W
[snip]

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Re: [Elecraft] Software for K3 remote

[Nick Garner]

There's a demo of KX3UI and K3UI available here:
http://pignology.net/winapps.html

73,
Nick
N3WG
On May 20, 2013 8:12 AM, "Dick Dievendorff"  wrote:

> Pignology has one:
>
> http://shop.pignology.net/K3UI-Windows_p_29.html
>
> 73 de Dick, K6KR
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 7:56 AM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] Software for K3 remote
>
> Hello
>
>
>
> Is there any software to control K3 remotely that show you the front of the
> K3?
>
>
>
> Like using a K3 at base station but in a software
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jorge
>
> CX6VM/CW5W
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Software for K3 remote

[Harlan]

Jorge,
Tom Blahovivi (VA2FSQ) is working on a project right now and it looks very 
promising. He is a frequent contributor on this list.

Check out his website:
VA2FSQ.COM

Harlan
NC3C

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Jorge Diez - CX6VM  wrote:

>Hello
>
> 
>
>Is there any software to control K3 remotely that show you the front of the
>K3?
>
> 
>
>Like using a K3 at base station but in a software
>
> 
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jorge
>
>CX6VM/CW5W
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Re: [Elecraft] Software for K3 remote

[Dick Dievendorff]

Pignology has one:

http://shop.pignology.net/K3UI-Windows_p_29.html

73 de Dick, K6KR




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Hello

 

Is there any software to control K3 remotely that show you the front of the
K3?

 

Like using a K3 at base station but in a software

 

Thanks,

Jorge

CX6VM/CW5W

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[Elecraft] Software for K3 remote

[Jorge Diez - CX6VM]

Hello

 

Is there any software to control K3 remotely that show you the front of the
K3?

 

Like using a K3 at base station but in a software

 

Thanks,

Jorge

CX6VM/CW5W

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[Elecraft] Software

[Mike Reublin]

Anyone running  Snow Leopard, Lion or Mountain Lion willing to do a little 
software test, please contact me off-line.

73, Mike NF4L
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[Elecraft] Software

[Mike Reublin]

I've written a little program for the Mac (Intel based) to turn a rotator. If 
anyone is using a Yaesu GS232 controller, please contact me off-list if you'd 
be willing to run a test for me. 

It also communicates with RUMlog via a script to get the heading. My rotor uses 
DCU, so I know that works.

If anyone has a different rotor controller, if you can give me the command set, 
I can probably incorporate it.

73, Mike NF4L
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[Elecraft] Software

[Mike Reublin]

Anyone interested in trying out a Mac app I just finished, go to 
http://nf4l.com/rotor/rot.htm
It's for turning antennae whose control boxes understand the DCU command set.
It should run on SnowLeopard and up (Intel based Macs). It's my first Mac 
program. Next up is porting K3 Texter to the Mac.

Any questions, please contact me off list.

73, Mike NF4L
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[Elecraft] Software

[Arlon Nelson]

Thanks to everyone that replied to my post about software.
Looks like NaP3 is the way to go.
Thanks

73
Nels W0TUP
North Dakota
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Re: [Elecraft] Software CW in K3 and KX3 and contesting

[W2RU - Bud Hippisley]

Hi, Will --

"Q" was probably not the best choice I could have used to distinguish between 
the two modes.

My biggest problem with Iambic and a dual-lever paddle is the number "2", which 
I do have to send occasionally:-)  It typically comes out as  
dit-dit-dah-dit-dah.

For me, at least, I think the crux of the difference between the two algorithms 
is that I can be "sloppier" about when I get my thumb or fingers off the first 
lever squeezed on a large number of characters, such as the A, W, J, 1 and N, 
D, B, 6 families.   This timing becomes increasingly critical as sending speed 
increases.  For instance, I can send a "2" quite consistently using dual-lever 
Iambic at slow speeds.

I freely admit that my difficulties with Iambic may be influenced by the 
characteristics of keyers I first used, prior to introduction of the Iambic 
algorithm.  In other words, if your first electronic keyer was Iambic, you may 
not have as much trouble as I with it.   An aside:  One of those early keyers I 
loved, the POO-keyer from K2POO, was a (vacuum tube!) "dash priority" or "dash 
override" design -- not so much by deliberate design, perhaps, as by the 
reaction of the analog circuit to having dot and dash contacts simultaneously 
closed.

Ultimately (get that?), I think the answer is this:  If you're perfectly happy 
with the Iambic algorithm in conjunction with a dual-lever paddle, and it's 
making good characters for you, or if you use only a single-lever paddle, stick 
with the Iambic.  If it's giving you "fits", however, an Ultimatic keyer might 
be just the ticket for you.

Bud, W2RU


On Aug 10, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Mercury  wrote:

> Maybe I'm missing something, Bud, but I send the letter Q the same way with 
> Iambic B keying. Hold the dah paddle for the duration of the letter and tap 
> the dit at the appropriate place. No need to let up on the dah paddle. Is 
> there some other characteristic that distinguishes Ulimatic from Iambic B? 
> I've never used Ultimatic keying but hear a lot of folks rave about it. I do 
> just fine with Iambic B but mess up big time with Iambic A. To each his own.
> 
> 73 - Will, AI4VE
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Software CW in K3 and KX3 and contesting

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

RUMPed/RUMLog is unique because it is written for Apple by one person
for his own use/his own equipment.   It does not support the Windows
environment and multiple transceiver protocols.  Tom can concentrate
on optimizing operation with the K3 (and KX3 to the extent it works
the same as the K3).

 > 2. Changes to contest packages

While I can't say for Win-Test, I have often heard developers for the
other packages say they will not support a "CW over CAT" interface
as it is simply not "cost effective" given the limited number of rigs
that it would serve and the need to do multiple versions to support
Elecraft, Kenwood, and the limited number of Icom models with similar
capability.  All of the "big three" and most other contest *and* day
to day loggers support CW by DTR and WinKey.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 8/10/2012 9:04 AM, Ignacy wrote:
> That RUMped works well with KX3 software scheme means that it can be done.
> Even if not perfect, this would stop taking other interfaces/CW keyers,
> cables, etc. If KX3 is small but extra boxes take twice as much space, how
> good is it?
>
> So it seems that there are 3 approaches to contest CW with KX3:
>
> 1. Extra keyers
>
> 2. Changes to contest packages
>
> 3. Modified USB/serial cable (most likely)
>
> For the last point, it seems that KX3 control port is just serial port with
> RX/TX at 4800 baud, changeable to 38.4k.  If one has a plain USB/serial
> cable, one needs to concoct two cables: one for RX/TX and the other for CW,
> possibly with a  transistor buffer. I am not sure whether something like
> this has been suggested in another thread.
>
> 4. Option 3 made as new cable by Elecraft.
>
> Option 2 is best IMHO for KX3 followed by 4 if we convince Elecraft (or
> third party) to do it.
>
> Ignacy, NO9E
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Software CW in K3 and KX3 and contesting

[Ignacy]

That RUMped works well with KX3 software scheme means that it can be done.
Even if not perfect, this would stop taking other interfaces/CW keyers,
cables, etc. If KX3 is small but extra boxes take twice as much space, how
good is it?

So it seems that there are 3 approaches to contest CW with KX3:

1. Extra keyers

2. Changes to contest packages

3. Modified USB/serial cable (most likely)

For the last point, it seems that KX3 control port is just serial port with
RX/TX at 4800 baud, changeable to 38.4k.  If one has a plain USB/serial
cable, one needs to concoct two cables: one for RX/TX and the other for CW,
possibly with a  transistor buffer. I am not sure whether something like
this has been suggested in another thread.

4. Option 3 made as new cable by Elecraft. 

Option 2 is best IMHO for KX3 followed by 4 if we convince Elecraft (or
third party) to do it.

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Re: [Elecraft] Software CW in K3 and KX3 and contesting

[Barry LaZar]

I infer that contesting and contest CW aids are what you are after. I 
use N1MM contest logging software to control my K1EL keyer. It works 
with any radio that can be used with a key. However there are other 
contest logging packages around, but most are designed to operate with 
an external keyers also. Actually, this is a fairly simple approach that 
allows for some flexibility.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

On 8/9/2012 12:01 PM, Ignacy wrote:
> Both K3 and KX3 can send CW via a software command. Is this feature useful
> for contesting? Does any contesting software support  CW via command?
>
> This feature is especially important for KX3 where there is no possibility
> of keying via serial cable. Also for K3 if an interface does not allow for
> CTS/RTS, e.g., if one uses Microham StationMaster.
>
> Ignacy, NO9E
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Re: [Elecraft] Software CW in K3 and KX3 and contesting

[Scott]

Rumlog and rumped both work well, but Rumped is contest oriented. 73, Scott 
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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 19:36:23 
To: 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Software CW in K3 and KX3 and contesting

My reply didn't get attached to this thread, so I will try again.  Yes, there
is a logging program that uses the serial port of the KX3 via software CW. 
I used RUMped very successfully during Field Day this year on my KX3 #151. 
I connected to it via the KXUSB cable to my 2011 MacBook Air.  I can
recommend RUMped as a contesting app to anyone running OSX.  73 de George,
AB4FH





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Re: [Elecraft] Software CW in K3 and KX3 and contesting

[GOBrien]

My reply didn't get attached to this thread, so I will try again.  Yes, there
is a logging program that uses the serial port of the KX3 via software CW. 
I used RUMped very successfully during Field Day this year on my KX3 #151. 
I connected to it via the KXUSB cable to my 2011 MacBook Air.  I can
recommend RUMped as a contesting app to anyone running OSX.  73 de George,
AB4FH





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[Elecraft] Software CW in K3 and KX3 and contesting

[George O'Brien]

I used RUMped during Field Day this year via the KX3USB and my MacBookAir
on CW.  It worked very well. 

73 de George, AB4FH
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Re: [Elecraft] Software CW in K3 and KX3 and contesting

[Pete Smith N4ZR]

N1MM Logger, Win-Test and Writelog.

73, Pete N4ZR
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The Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog at 
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spots at telnet.reversebeacon.net, port 7000 and
arcluster.reversebeacon.net, port 7000

On 8/9/2012 3:21 PM, Rick Ruhl wrote:
> Who are the big three Joe?
>
>
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> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 1:43 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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>
>
>   > Does any contesting software support  CW via command?
>
> No, and none of the big three are likely to do so as the "KY" command is not
> uniform across all brands and lacks the ability to determine buffer status
> or edit buffer contents.
>
> 73,
>
>  ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 8/9/2012 12:01 PM, Ignacy wrote:
>> Both K3 and KX3 can send CW via a software command. Is this feature
>> useful for contesting? Does any contesting software support  CW via
> command?
>> This feature is especially important for KX3 where there is no
>> possibility of keying via serial cable. Also for K3 if an interface
>> does not allow for CTS/RTS, e.g., if one uses Microham StationMaster.
>>
>> Ignacy, NO9E
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] Software CW in K3 and KX3 and contesting

[Thomas Horsten]

Win-Test is my choice for contesting. In the latest contest I used my KX3
(novelty value and wanted to try a conetst in QRP), and I missed the
automatic keying with DTR/CTS, but on the other hand had fun sending
everything with the paddles.

However, I think all of the programs you mention support the Win-Key keyer,
which also uses serial port commands and has a protocol where you can query
the buffer state and clear it.

I think (and this would be one for Wayne to answer) that it would be easy
enough to add a K(X)3 command in the firmware to allow you to query the
buffer state and/or stop sending the remaining buffer. If so, it would be
possible to add rig-controlled keying to these contest-loggers and/or write
a generic Win-Key emulator that would present as a virtual serial port and
handle the commands to the K(X)3. It would be great for the KX3 and even
for the K3 as the CTS/DTR keying has a severe disadvantage in that Windows
isn't a real-time operating system and sometimes the program will hang for
a few milliseconds, resulting in a dit turning into a dah (or a pause),
this could be avoided entirely by having the rig control the timing (as
with the Win-Keyer).

Wayne is probably extremely busy with KX3 stuff at the moment but an entry
on the TODO/IDEAS list would be appreciated ;)

73, Thomas M0TRN

On 9 August 2012 21:14, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:

> For Windows contesting packages, they are in seniority order, Writelog,
> N1MM Logger and Win-Test.  There are several others that specialize in
> some areas - primarily a local language or support for a limited number
> of "local" contests - but the "big three" represent around 80% (my
> estimate) of total logs submitted using contest specific software.
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Re: [Elecraft] Software CW in K3 and KX3 and contesting

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

For Windows contesting packages, they are in seniority order, Writelog,
N1MM Logger and Win-Test.  There are several others that specialize in
some areas - primarily a local language or support for a limited number
of "local" contests - but the "big three" represent around 80% (my
estimate) of total logs submitted using contest specific software.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 8/9/2012 3:21 PM, Rick Ruhl wrote:
> Who are the big three Joe?
>
>
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> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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>
>
>   > Does any contesting software support  CW via command?
>
> No, and none of the big three are likely to do so as the "KY" command is not
> uniform across all brands and lacks the ability to determine buffer status
> or edit buffer contents.
>
> 73,
>
>  ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 8/9/2012 12:01 PM, Ignacy wrote:
>> Both K3 and KX3 can send CW via a software command. Is this feature
>> useful for contesting? Does any contesting software support  CW via
> command?
>>
>> This feature is especially important for KX3 where there is no
>> possibility of keying via serial cable. Also for K3 if an interface
>> does not allow for CTS/RTS, e.g., if one uses Microham StationMaster.
>>
>> Ignacy, NO9E
>>
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] Software CW in K3 and KX3 and contesting

[Cady, Fred]

I've never done it, but can't N1MM be set up to send macro's to the K3
with its (N1MM's) function keys? I don't know if variable information
can be sent that way.
Probably easier just to make a keying interface ala the old days.

73,
Fred
KE7X

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> 
> 
>  > Does any contesting software support  CW via command?
> 
> No, and none of the big three are likely to do so as the "KY" command
> is not uniform across all brands and lacks the ability to determine
> buffer status or edit buffer contents.
> 
> 73,
> 
> ... Joe, W4TV
> 
> 
> On 8/9/2012 12:01 PM, Ignacy wrote:
> > Both K3 and KX3 can send CW via a software command. Is this feature
> useful
> > for contesting? Does any contesting software support  CW via
command?
> >
> > This feature is especially important for KX3 where there is no
> possibility
> > of keying via serial cable. Also for K3 if an interface does not
> allow for
> > CTS/RTS, e.g., if one uses Microham StationMaster.
> >
> > Ignacy, NO9E
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] Software CW in K3 and KX3 and contesting

[Rick Ruhl]

Who are the big three Joe? 


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 > Does any contesting software support  CW via command?

No, and none of the big three are likely to do so as the "KY" command is not
uniform across all brands and lacks the ability to determine buffer status
or edit buffer contents.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 8/9/2012 12:01 PM, Ignacy wrote:
> Both K3 and KX3 can send CW via a software command. Is this feature 
> useful for contesting? Does any contesting software support  CW via
command?
>
> This feature is especially important for KX3 where there is no 
> possibility of keying via serial cable. Also for K3 if an interface 
> does not allow for CTS/RTS, e.g., if one uses Microham StationMaster.
>
> Ignacy, NO9E
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Software CW in K3 and KX3 and contesting

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

 > Does any contesting software support  CW via command?

No, and none of the big three are likely to do so as the "KY" command
is not uniform across all brands and lacks the ability to determine
buffer status or edit buffer contents.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 8/9/2012 12:01 PM, Ignacy wrote:
> Both K3 and KX3 can send CW via a software command. Is this feature useful
> for contesting? Does any contesting software support  CW via command?
>
> This feature is especially important for KX3 where there is no possibility
> of keying via serial cable. Also for K3 if an interface does not allow for
> CTS/RTS, e.g., if one uses Microham StationMaster.
>
> Ignacy, NO9E
>
>
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[Elecraft] Software CW in K3 and KX3 and contesting

[Ignacy]

Both K3 and KX3 can send CW via a software command. Is this feature useful
for contesting? Does any contesting software support  CW via command?

This feature is especially important for KX3 where there is no possibility
of keying via serial cable. Also for K3 if an interface does not allow for
CTS/RTS, e.g., if one uses Microham StationMaster. 

Ignacy, NO9E



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[Elecraft] Software testers wanted

[Mike]

In response to a post here a few days ago, I'm writing a Windows program for 
the K3 
(and maybe the K2 - I don't have one) that reads the radio and displays on the 
computer screen as text for a screen reader to say.

The program is in the very early stage of development, and there may be crashes 
and 
other less serious errors.

If you're visually impaired, and want to be a lab rat, drop me a note, 
preferably off 
list. I'd like to know what rig you have, (if it's a K3, if it has a sub 
receiver), 
your operating system, and what screen reader you use..

73, Mike NF4L




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Re: [Elecraft] Software downloading problem

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

Rev 4.22 firmware is still beta.  You will need to get it from
ftp.elecraft.com/k3/firmware/beta.  The procedure is documented
here: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_beta_release_instructions.htm

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 11/25/2010 12:49 AM, r...@aol.com wrote:
> I can't download the newer MCU or FPF software updates for some  reason.
> I'm using Utility 1.3.11.5 but when I check for updates the latest  I get are
> MCU 4.14 and FPF 1.13 ... could it be these are the latest updates that
> aren't Betas?  Or am I doing something wrong?
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> Thanks!
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Re: [Elecraft] Software downloading problem

[Dick Dievendorff]

I'm on the road and can't check but my belief is that 4.14 is the latest non 
beta. 

Dick, K6KR

On Nov 24, 2010, at 21:49, r...@aol.com wrote:

> I can't download the newer MCU or FPF software updates for some  reason.  
> I'm using Utility 1.3.11.5 but when I check for updates the latest  I get are
> MCU 4.14 and FPF 1.13 ... could it be these are the latest updates that  
> aren't Betas?  Or am I doing something wrong?
> 
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[Elecraft] Software downloading problem

[RLVZ]

I can't download the newer MCU or FPF software updates for some  reason.  
I'm using Utility 1.3.11.5 but when I check for updates the latest  I get are
MCU 4.14 and FPF 1.13 ... could it be these are the latest updates that  
aren't Betas?  Or am I doing something wrong?
 
Thanks!
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Re: [Elecraft] software

[Radio Amateur N5GE]

On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 18:50:19 -0400, Don Wilhelm 
wrote:

Exactly!

BT 73 ES GUD LUK
DE N5GE, 
QCWA LIFE MEMBER 35102 AR SK

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>I do wish people would not do this (put a link in an email with no 
>explanation other than perhaps something cryptic in the subject line).
>As a routine (part of my safe computing practice), I do not open links 
>unless the content is briefly described in the email.
>
>73,
>Don W3FPR
>
>lu1xs wrote:
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Re: [Elecraft] software

[Don Wilhelm]

I do wish people would not do this (put a link in an email with no 
explanation other than perhaps something cryptic in the subject line).
As a routine (part of my safe computing practice), I do not open links 
unless the content is briefly described in the email.

73,
Don W3FPR

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Re: [Elecraft] software to control the K3

[Jorge Diez - CX6VM]

Thanks Julius!!

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Asunto: Re: [Elecraft] software to control the K3


It works well Jorge.

Makes playing with the settings go a lot quicker. Nice antenna SWR tracking
function too.

73,
Julius
n2wn

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Re: [Elecraft] software to control the K3

[Julius Fazekas n2wn]

It works well Jorge.

Makes playing with the settings go a lot quicker. Nice antenna SWR tracking
function too.

73,
Julius
n2wn

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Re: [Elecraft] software to control the K3

[Radio Amateur N5GE]

On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 11:37:55 -0300, "Jorge Diez - CX6VM"
 wrote:

[snip]

I tried the software out last week and it seemed to work OK except
when setting up and storing memories.

TOM, N5GE BT

73 ES GUD LUK
AR DE N5GE SK 

>I search about a software that display all the configurations and change
>them.
>
>I found K3 EZ http://home.roadrunner.com/~n2bc/SW.htm
>
>Do you know is this is good or you recommend another one?
>
>Thanks!
>
>73,
>Jorge
>CX6VM
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[Elecraft] software to control the K3

[Jorge Diez - CX6VM]

Hello,

 

I search about a software that display all the configurations and change
them.

 

I found K3 EZ http://home.roadrunner.com/~n2bc/SW.htm

 

Do you know is this is good or you recommend another one?

 

Thanks!

 

73,

Jorge

CX6VM

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[Elecraft] Software Upgrades

[Tom Meier]

One of the problems with having a radio that is way smarter than I am is
that things take an inordinate amount of time to accomplish what should be a
simple task.  I've just spent three hours downloading the latest beta
software.  I freely admit that all of the mistakes were mine: from trying to
use the wrong COM port to discovering that the unzipped files had not been
saved into my "temporary" beta folder.  *But* it seems that the whole thing
could have been avoided if someone had a simple bulletproof checklist that
includes things like "Turn on the K3"  Does anyone have such an animal?

73 de Tom (K7ZZ)
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Re: [Elecraft] Software for PSK31/Morse

[Julian, G4ILO]

John Chance-Read wrote:
> 
> I am looking for software similar to DigiPan which for PSK31 provides
> panoramic display of frequency spectrum and identifies each station with
> its callsign and call info. I want one  FOR MORSE.  I am totally deaf and
> want to work in contest and I think this is the answer for me.  I tried
> feeling vibration from loudspeaker but found it too uncomfortable for more
> than 5 minutes.
> I think it also works with PSK31 which in any case I will also try.
> I believe this software for morse does exist but am trying to get a copy -
> I am quite willing to pay for it. Would appreciate your help
> John G4BOU
> 
CW Skimmer http://www.dxatlas.com/CwSkimmer/ is the only program I know of
that will do this for Morse. It does not decode PSK31, but I think Ham Radio
Deluxe will do that for you.

Could you read morse shown by a flashing LED? There are circuits that can
lock on to a particular audio frequency and flash when audio is present.

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[Elecraft] Software for PSK31/Morse

[John Chance-Read]

I am looking for software similar to DigiPan which for PSK31 provides panoramic 
display of frequency spectrum and identifies each station with its callsign and 
call info. I want one  FOR MORSE.  I am totally deaf and want to work in 
contest and I think this is the answer for me.  I tried feeling vibration from 
loudspeaker but found it too uncomfortable for more than 5 minutes.
I think it also works with PSK31 which in any case I will also try.
I believe this software for morse does exist but am trying to get a copy - I am 
quite willing to pay for it. Would appreciate your help
John G4BOU



  
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Re: [Elecraft] Software Development Goals

[Tom W8JI]

I am consummately pleased with my K3.  I am astounded 
with the raw

performance and dazzled with the features.



So am I.

The K3 is the first radio I have ever bought without some 
silly engineering shortfall. The only things I see people 
complaining about are specialized personal use or 
application issues. It's impossible without years of field 
refinement to get on the very top of the curve, but they are 
already close and respond fast.


surpassing expectations masterfully.  The fact they have 
incorporated in
their development strategy a transparent and responsive 
forum easily
accessible to the unqualified and very well qualified is 
revolutionary


I've been involved with other groups and it is often to get 
them to even consider major issues. It's so frustrating I 
vowed to never again work with a radio manufacturer. For 
example one manufacturer had an amplifier keying issue. The 
radio spit out RF before it told the amplifier to turn on. I 
knew it was happening because my homebrew amp has a 
"hot-switch" sensor that prevents keying (relay transfer) 
while RF is present, and I looked at it on a scope and could 
see the issue. It took almost a week of actual work to get 
them to look at the problem. The engineer responsible kept 
saying he checked it and it was fine, but it turned out he 
never did check. When they finally checked they fixed it, 
but historically everything they did worked that way. It 
worked that way with ALC issues that caused keyclicks, and 
it worked that way with a dozen other bugs some of which 
never were resolved.


All three major Japanese manufacturers are out of touch the 
same way.  It actually takes decades to address some very 
simple problems.


Thankfully Elecraft has chosen a different approach.

and as yet unimplemented features.  Frequently, 
operational flexibility or
designer prerogative is misconstrued as a failure or a bug 
and unimplemented

features thus far have a history of being implemented.


That's the problem I see. While there are shortfalls in 
specialized areas, it is always an application specific and 
design critical area like a noise blanker or IF port use. 
What works well in one case might hurt other uses so they 
have to find a compromise, and that takes time. They have to 
learn all the different field applications, it can't really 
be planned because planning would take so much time the 
first radio would never leave the assembly line.


73 Tom



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Re: [Elecraft] Software Development Goals

[Julian, G4ILO]

NS5U/1 Jim Benson wrote:
> 
>  An Official List both of features to be enabled and recognized bugs
> might go a long way towards reducing the spurious responses and allaying
> the fear of features yet to be enabled.  Such a list likely already exists
> among the developers. 
> 
Jim, I don't think you'll ever stop hams from airing their opinions,
informed or otherwise. :)

While I have sometimes thought that something like an online bug tracker, as
used by a lot of open source software projects (an example:
http://bugs.freepascal.org/) would be a nice thing to have, a way for people
to report issues they have found or make suggestions for enhancements and
then track the progress being made, I suspect that implementing this and
then maintaining it would be a lot of work for what is after all a very
small development team, time that might be better spent writing and testing
code.

We're getting there, most people are happy now, but the nature of ham radio
is that users have widely different priorities, and some will always find
something to grumble about.

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[Elecraft] Software Development Goals

[NS5U/1 Jim Benson]

 I am consummately pleased with my K3.  I am astounded with the raw
performance and dazzled with the features.  I look forward to remaining
stunned with the product as more features are implemented. Considering the
breadth of uses the K3 is applied towards by the large diversity of users
with widely varying technical expertise and focus, Elecraft succeeds
surpassing expectations masterfully.  The fact they have incorporated in
their development strategy a transparent and responsive forum easily
accessible to the unqualified and very well qualified is revolutionary but
sometimes reading this reflector is a little like getting my news at the
pub.  

 Expectedly, just as in the pub, there is a wide diversity here of
informed, misinformed, and those wishing to be informed but there is often
too much conflicting misinformation containing personal views of second hand
"facts" obscuring the successes with unfounded doubts which raise spurious
issues.  One recurring theme concerns the perception of software failures
and as yet unimplemented features.  Frequently, operational flexibility or
designer prerogative is misconstrued as a failure or a bug and unimplemented
features thus far have a history of being implemented.  
 Earlier technology adopters have little problem sorting through these
issues.  They are usually the folks in the pub smiling and enjoying a pint
before returning to the shack and playing radio.  Latter technology adopters
tend to be the animated somewhat noisy nervous crew spilling their ale and
prone to moan at every retelling of the latest "disasterous" development.
 When walking by the pub many folks, usually the last adopters, write
off the whole pub as too unstable to consider viable.  All of us could
benefit from the simple facts from the source.

 An Official List both of features to be enabled and recognized bugs
might go a long way towards reducing the spurious responses and allaying the
fear of features yet to be enabled.  Such a list likely already exists among
the developers. 

 Or did I miss finding it?  I love a good pint and a smile but sometimes
I am the last to know.

Jim Benson
NS5U/1
My K3 Mojo is working

My two cents and worth just what you paid for it.
  
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[Elecraft] Software Upgrades

[Ron Durie]

I too have upgraded my K3 # 604 to every new beta Firmware version as soon
as it is posted.  

I have had no problems.  Elecraft is doing an excellent job with the
Firmware. 

 

Ron Durie

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Re: [Elecraft] Software Upgrades

[David Wilburn]

I have upgraded to every firmware beta and never had a problem.

David Wilburn
K4DGW



BOB PHILBROOK wrote:
After reading countless reflector comments about firmware upgrades and releases, it appears to me that in many instances such so called upgrades are two steps forward and one in reverse.  


You know the drill, fix this problem, add a new feature, and then find that 
something that worked in previous versions does not function as expected and 
now demands a fix and another firmware version.

Personally, I would like to see fewer firmware releases and more time spent vetting firmware before it is released.  Firmware upgrades should be two steps forward -- period! 


The rush to add new features and fix bugs in firmware appears to me to be too 
rushed to be efficient and effective.  Tell me fellows, why the rush?

Bob, K9PAG
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Re: [Elecraft] Software Upgrades

[GM4KGK]

Lyle Johnson wrote:
> 
>> Set the PWR control to 100w (or 120w if you wish) and control the power
>> output using the MIC level control on the front panel. (MIC SEL = LINE
>> IN).
>> Or is that classed as cheating? :-)
> 
> Yes, I think it is :-)
> 
> The problem with this approach is that over time the slow ALC loop may 
> try to build the power level up to that which you've set with the PWR 
> control.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Lyle KK7P
> 

Hello Lyle
I have to bow to your superior knowledge in these matters, but over two or
three PSK QSO's (say, 20-25 minutes) I haven't noted any increase in
transmitted power from the 35-40 watts I start with.
What sort of time scale would you expect the ALC loop to require to get
close to the level set on the PWR control?
I will look at it more closely in future.
73
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Re: [Elecraft] Software Upgrades

[Bob Cunnings]

The K3 operating tip regarding PSK setup:

http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_operating_tips.htm#psk%20audio

really does need to be updated. It was written before the ALC system
changes that came with MCU 1.87.

Bob NW8L

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:15 AM, Lyle Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Set the PWR control to 100w (or 120w if you wish) and control the power
>> output using the MIC level control on the front panel. (MIC SEL = LINE
>> IN).
>> Or is that classed as cheating? :-)
>
> Yes, I think it is :-)
>
> The problem with this approach is that over time the slow ALC loop may try
> to build the power level up to that which you've set with the PWR control.
>
> 73,
>
> Lyle KK7P
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Re: [Elecraft] Software Upgrades

[Lyle Johnson]

Set the PWR control to 100w (or 120w if you wish) and control the power
output using the MIC level control on the front panel. (MIC SEL = LINE IN).
Or is that classed as cheating? :-)


Yes, I think it is :-)

The problem with this approach is that over time the slow ALC loop may 
try to build the power level up to that which you've set with the PWR 
control.


73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] Software Upgrades

[GM4KGK]

Dave G4AON wrote:
> 
> 
> There are still issues to be resolved, one I would like fixed is the 
> inability to adjust power while transmitting data which is tedious. 
> There are published items on the "to be implemented" list such as the 
> TCXO calibration to 0.5ppm.
> 
> 

I hope I'm not missing something but I seem to be able to vary the power in
data modes from zero to any sensible level that doesn't run into ALC (about
70 watts max).
Set the PWR control to 100w (or 120w if you wish) and control the power
output using the MIC level control on the front panel. (MIC SEL = LINE IN).
Or is that classed as cheating? :-)
Norman - GM4KGK

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Re: [Elecraft] Software Upgrades

[Mike Cox]

Having already survived the Ten-Tec Orion I firmware and hardware 
upgrade fiasco, I must admit that my experiences with the Elecraft 
firmware migration has been a real pleasure. I eagerly download each new 
beta version as soon as I know it's available. I have never regressed to 
a previous edition. This was not the case with my Orion I. The ease of 
loading a new version of the K3 firmware is an added plus over the Orion 
(power on - hold the proper buttons - hold tongue just right while 
crossing fingers). If there is some substantive issue with a new K3 
version, a corrected version appears within hours (not weeks or months 
as was the case with my Orion I). Also, the actual programmers of the K3 
are accessible and responsive. I never did succeed in contacting an 
Orion I programmer. Waiting over a year for Orion firmware that did not 
occasionally crash like Windows 3.1 was frustrating! Considering the big 
3 japanese manufacturers; if it doesn't work to your expectations, 
simply wait for a subsequent model introduction and see if that's better.


If one is not comfortable with frequent K3 firmware upgrades, simply 
ignore the "beta" versions. New "production" versions are not all that 
frequent.


If one enjoys playing with new features and functions as soon as the 
guys in Aptos make them available, then dive into the "betas". It's an 
opportunity to participate in the engineering process! Hey, these guys 
LISTEN to our feedback. I'm having a ball participating in the evolution 
of this fine radio. I think they're doing it in a most acceptable fashion.


BOB PHILBROOK wrote:
After reading countless reflector comments about firmware upgrades and releases, it appears to me that in many instances such so called upgrades are two steps forward and one in reverse.  


You know the drill, fix this problem, add a new feature, and then find that 
something that worked in previous versions does not function as expected and 
now demands a fix and another firmware version.

Personally, I would like to see fewer firmware releases and more time spent vetting firmware before it is released.  Firmware upgrades should be two steps forward -- period! 


The rush to add new features and fix bugs in firmware appears to me to be too 
rushed to be efficient and effective.  Tell me fellows, why the rush?

Bob, K9PAG
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[Elecraft] Software Upgrades

[BOB PHILBROOK]

After reading countless reflector comments about firmware upgrades and 
releases, it appears to me that in many instances such so called upgrades are 
two steps forward and one in reverse.  

You know the drill, fix this problem, add a new feature, and then find that 
something that worked in previous versions does not function as expected and 
now demands a fix and another firmware version.

Personally, I would like to see fewer firmware releases and more time spent 
vetting firmware before it is released.  Firmware upgrades should be two steps 
forward -- period! 

The rush to add new features and fix bugs in firmware appears to me to be too 
rushed to be efficient and effective.  Tell me fellows, why the rush?

Bob, K9PAG
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Re: [K3] [Elecraft] Software suggestion: a more prominent TEST indicator

[Deni]

Exactly, the ergonomics of the K3 have been well thought out.

Just RTFM!


G4ILO wrote:


After the first couple of times, you learn to check for things like that.
Nobody should expect to be able to operate anything as complex as a K3
flawlessly without first spending some time learning how to drive it.

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KComm for K2/K3: www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html
  


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Re: [K3] [Elecraft] Software suggestion: a more prominent TEST indicator

[drewko1]

On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 07:56:53 -0700 (PDT), Julian, G4ILO wrote:

>
>
>> 
>Why stop at a chirp? Elecraft could make a voice synthesis module, like the
>ones in car sat-nav equipment. Whenever you key down, a user-selectable
>voice (Arnie Schwarzenegger? Margaret Thatcher?) could say "Warning. Test
>mode selected."
>

BTW, to answer my own question a couple of posts back... It is the
SWTONE entry in the config menu (not yet implemented) which will allow
Morse Code feedback or audio tone on any control activation...
Looking forward to that. I assume it is imminent if it is listed on
the config menu (or at least definite).


73,
Drew
AF2Z

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[K3] [Elecraft] Software suggestion: a more prominent TEST indicator

[Dave G4AON]

The existing flashing TX indicator is just fine, leave it alone. Some of 
us leave their K3 in a receive only state to avoid upsetting other gear, 
in my case a broadband modem that fouls up at the smallest amount of RF. 
It also avoids catching the paddles and accidentally sending RF when you 
didn't plan to. If the "TEST" mode is used regularly you remember it...


73 Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80
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So tell me, why would a periodic warning chirp be any more silly than
a little "TX" icon flashing at 1/2-second intervals?

73,
Drew
AF2Z
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Re: [K3] [Elecraft] Software suggestion: a more prominent TEST indicator

[drewko1]

Nah, voice warnings are not effective. Most of us spend our days
ignoring the vocal clatter pouring from cellphones, tv's , radios,
etc. (CW ops, anyway...) 

What is needed is a switched relay on the K3 that would set off a
large fire alarm type bell. And maybe an electric jolt to the chair
seat for out-of-band operation...

Seriously, for people who don't see too well a couple of optional
audible annunciators might be useful. 

So tell me, why would a periodic warning chirp be any more silly than
a little "TX" icon flashing at 1/2-second intervals?

73,
Drew
AF2Z


On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 07:56:53 -0700 (PDT), Julian, G4ILO wrote:

>
>
>drewko1 wrote:
>> 
>> An inocuous chirp from the K3 every five seconds would be simpler than
>> a big CH-801 HP SWR meter, I think. (A chirp would take up far less
>> desk space as well.)
>> 
>Why stop at a chirp? Elecraft could make a voice synthesis module, like the
>ones in car sat-nav equipment. Whenever you key down, a user-selectable
>voice (Arnie Schwarzenegger? Margaret Thatcher?) could say "Warning. Test
>mode selected."
>
>Other warnings could save the user from making potentially expensive or
>simply embarrasing mistakes, like: "Warning: High SWR detected." or "Voice
>modes not permitted in the CW sub-band." It could even offer helpful pile-up
>breaking tips if it detects that you have been calling for several minutes
>on the same frequency.
>
>-
>Julian, G4ILO  K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392
>G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com
>KComm for K2/K3: www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html

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