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Re: [Elecraft] What is K3 Fault 6?

2024-03-30 Thread Wayne Burdick

Hi Pete,

Check the KPA1500 fault log using KPA1500 Utility. Amp fault codes starting 
with "6" (such as fault 60) are displayed on the K3 as fault 6.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


> On Mar 30, 2024, at 6:42 AM, Pete Smith N4ZR  wrote:
> 
> I have seen this a couple of time when my KPA1500 throws the Excessive power 
> input fault.  Can't find any definition in my K3 docs.
> 
> -- 
> 73, Pete N4ZR
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[Elecraft] What is K3 Fault 6?

2024-03-30 Thread Pete Smith N4ZR

I have seen this a couple of time when my KPA1500 throws the Excessive 
power input fault.  Can't find any definition in my K3 docs.


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Re: [Elecraft] What minimum temperature should the K station be kept at during a hard freeze

2024-01-15 Thread Doug Hensley

Thanks Bill,

Much appreciate the information as well as the response.

I have a K3s pair, each with a P3 on one side of the station and
a K1 adjacent to it.  Both, of course, with power supplies.  My
K3s's are factory sn 10xxx units and will be here for the duration.

Fascinating story on the AF front.  Thanks for sharing.

Stay warm,

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From: William Hammond 
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2024 1:13 PM
To: Doug Hensley 
Cc: Elecraft List 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What minimum temperature should the K station be kept 
at during a hard freeze

Doug, You didn’t specify which “K” radio you were inquiring about.  My K4D 
manual page 45 says:  0 C to 50 C  or 32 F  to 122 F.  The K3s manual specifics 
0-50 C for frequency stability.   The K2 manual does not mention operating 
temperatures. The KX3 manual does not specify.  I checked the non “K”,  IC-7300 
manual and  operating range is stated as: -10 C to +60 C or +14 F to +140 F 
just for a sanity check.   To be safe, keeping the radio above freezing is a 
good idea.  I would think that condensation or moisture of any kind is the 
enemy in the cold.  Storing and operating are different things.

That said, I worked on a military radio that mounted in the 47 section of the 
B-52D, F  with no environmental controls. It was subjected to 50,000‘ altitude 
and  -50 C, F .  The failure rate of that radio was much greater than the same 
radio that was in the pressurized and air-conditioned in a forward section of 
the aircraft.  I might add that these radios were electrically tuned to a 
frequency using DC motors and heterodyned crystals (the AN/ARC-34) and it was 
almost always the tuning that failed.  These radios were in tropical conditions 
in Guam or Thailand when not flying.  They used sub-miniature tubes about a 
third the size of a miniature tube.

73, Bill-AK5X

On Jan 13, 2024, at 9:22 AM, Doug Hensley  wrote:

What minimum temperature should a K station be kept at during a hard freeze
and is there a cold temperature point at which it should not be powered up?

Please reply to the list and as always do not reply to a digest.  Thanks in 
advance
for any information.

73, Doug W5JV





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Re: [Elecraft] What minimum temperature should the K station be kept at during a hard freeze

2024-01-15 Thread Doug Hensley

Thanks for the response jack.  i'm in Baton Rouge so worrying too about the 
temperature.
Louisiana homes are not designed nor built for cold weather so, like you, it 
will be a challenge
to keep the pets warm and the pipes flowing 😉 

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From: Jack Brindle 
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2024 1:58 PM
To: Doug Hensley 
Cc: Elecraft List 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What minimum temperature should the K station be kept 
at during a hard freeze

Usually the limiting factor for low temperature in modern equipment is the LCD. 
They have a problem crystalizing much below freezing and thus are not usable in 
very cold temperatures.

I hope thing don’t get too cold in your area - we are forecast to see 19F here 
in SW LA on Tuesday morning. Yuck!

73,
Jack, W6FB


On Jan 13, 2024, at 1:13 PM, William Hammond via Elecraft 
 wrote:

Doug, You didn’t specify which “K” radio you were inquiring about.  My K4D 
manual page 45 says:  0 C to 50 C  or 32 F  to 122 F.  The K3s manual specifics 
0-50 C for frequency stability.   The K2 manual does not mention operating 
temperatures. The KX3 manual does not specify.  I checked the non “K”,  IC-7300 
manual and  operating range is stated as: -10 C to +60 C or +14 F to +140 F 
just for a sanity check.   To be safe, keeping the radio above freezing is a 
good idea.  I would think that condensation or moisture of any kind is the 
enemy in the cold.  Storing and operating are different things.

That said, I worked on a military radio that mounted in the 47 section of the 
B-52D, F  with no environmental controls. It was subjected to 50,000‘ altitude 
and  -50 C, F .  The failure rate of that radio was much greater than the same 
radio that was in the pressurized and air-conditioned in a forward section of 
the aircraft.  I might add that these radios were electrically tuned to a 
frequency using DC motors and heterodyned crystals (the AN/ARC-34) and it was 
almost always the tuning that failed.  These radios were in tropical conditions 
in Guam or Thailand when not flying.  They used sub-miniature tubes about a 
third the size of a miniature tube.

73, Bill-AK5X

On Jan 13, 2024, at 9:22 AM, Doug Hensley 
mailto:w...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

What minimum temperature should a K station be kept at during a hard freeze
and is there a cold temperature point at which it should not be powered up?

Please reply to the list and as always do not reply to a digest.  Thanks in 
advance
for any information.

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Re: [Elecraft] What minimum temperature should the K station be kept at during a hard freeze

2024-01-14 Thread Dave

As mentioned by Bill, condensation and corrosion are perhaps more of an
issue than cold storage. Be careful if bringing cold equipment into a warm
room, condensation can quickly form...

Most amateur equipment doesn't mention storage temperature, only operating
temp. By way of an example a Rohde and Schwarz FPC spectrum analyser has a
temp spec of +10C to +40C (operating) and -20C to +70C (storage).

73 Dave G4AON
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Re: [Elecraft] What minimum temperature should the K station be kept at during a hard freeze

2024-01-13 Thread Jack Brindle via Elecraft

Usually the limiting factor for low temperature in modern equipment is the LCD. 
They have a problem crystalizing much below freezing and thus are not usable in 
very cold temperatures.

I hope thing don’t get too cold in your area - we are forecast to see 19F here 
in SW LA on Tuesday morning. Yuck!

73,
Jack, W6FB


> On Jan 13, 2024, at 1:13 PM, William Hammond via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> Doug, You didn’t specify which “K” radio you were inquiring about.  My K4D 
> manual page 45 says:  0 C to 50 C  or 32 F  to 122 F.  The K3s manual 
> specifics 0-50 C for frequency stability.   The K2 manual does not mention 
> operating temperatures. The KX3 manual does not specify.  I checked the non 
> “K”,  IC-7300 manual and  operating range is stated as: -10 C to +60 C or +14 
> F to +140 F just for a sanity check.   To be safe, keeping the radio above 
> freezing is a good idea.  I would think that condensation or moisture of any 
> kind is the enemy in the cold.  Storing and operating are different things.
> 
> That said, I worked on a military radio that mounted in the 47 section of the 
> B-52D, F  with no environmental controls. It was subjected to 50,000‘ 
> altitude and  -50 C, F .  The failure rate of that radio was much greater 
> than the same radio that was in the pressurized and air-conditioned in a 
> forward section of the aircraft.  I might add that these radios were 
> electrically tuned to a frequency using DC motors and heterodyned crystals 
> (the AN/ARC-34) and it was almost always the tuning that failed.  These 
> radios were in tropical conditions in Guam or Thailand when not flying.  They 
> used sub-miniature tubes about a third the size of a miniature tube.
> 
> 73, Bill-AK5X
> 
>> On Jan 13, 2024, at 9:22 AM, Doug Hensley > > wrote:
>> 
>> What minimum temperature should a K station be kept at during a hard freeze
>> and is there a cold temperature point at which it should not be powered up?
>> 
>> Please reply to the list and as always do not reply to a digest.  Thanks in 
>> advance
>> for any information.
>> 
>> 73, Doug W5JV
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] What minimum temperature should the K station be kept at during a hard freeze

2024-01-13 Thread William Hammond via Elecraft

Doug, You didn’t specify which “K” radio you were inquiring about.  My K4D 
manual page 45 says:  0 C to 50 C  or 32 F  to 122 F.  The K3s manual specifics 
0-50 C for frequency stability.   The K2 manual does not mention operating 
temperatures. The KX3 manual does not specify.  I checked the non “K”,  IC-7300 
manual and  operating range is stated as: -10 C to +60 C or +14 F to +140 F 
just for a sanity check.   To be safe, keeping the radio above freezing is a 
good idea.  I would think that condensation or moisture of any kind is the 
enemy in the cold.  Storing and operating are different things.

That said, I worked on a military radio that mounted in the 47 section of the 
B-52D, F  with no environmental controls. It was subjected to 50,000‘ altitude 
and  -50 C, F .  The failure rate of that radio was much greater than the same 
radio that was in the pressurized and air-conditioned in a forward section of 
the aircraft.  I might add that these radios were electrically tuned to a 
frequency using DC motors and heterodyned crystals (the AN/ARC-34) and it was 
almost always the tuning that failed.  These radios were in tropical conditions 
in Guam or Thailand when not flying.  They used sub-miniature tubes about a 
third the size of a miniature tube.

73, Bill-AK5X

> On Jan 13, 2024, at 9:22 AM, Doug Hensley  wrote:
> 
> What minimum temperature should a K station be kept at during a hard freeze
> and is there a cold temperature point at which it should not be powered up?
> 
> Please reply to the list and as always do not reply to a digest.  Thanks in 
> advance
> for any information.
> 
> 73, Doug W5JV
> 
> 
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[Elecraft] What minimum temperature should the K station be kept at during a hard freeze

2024-01-13 Thread Doug Hensley

What minimum temperature should a K station be kept at during a hard freeze
and is there a cold temperature point at which it should not be powered up?

Please reply to the list and as always do not reply to a digest.  Thanks in 
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[Elecraft] What signals should appear on KIO3 LINE OUT?

2023-01-06 Thread w5wz


What signals should appear on KIO3 LINE OUT?

My microphone audio ALWAYS appears on the KIO LINE OUT.  I have verified 
MON=0.


Using Heil Proset into AD-1-K adapter into front panel MIC jack on K3.
Stereo cable from KIO3 LIN OUT to LINE IN on a powered speaker.
Nothing connected to KIO3 LIN IN.
Nothing connected to KIO3 SPEAKER OUT.

MON = 0
MIC SEL = FP.H
MIC + LIN = ON
KIO3 = nor
LIN OUT = nor 10

--Scott, W5WZ



From CQ-CONTEST VOL 239, Issue 20

Just to follow up on this one,  I did an Anydesk session with Scott last
night 11/21/2022, and after some experimentation, we discovered the 
problem.


Scott had done everything right.

It turns out he has three Elecraft K3 radios -- not K3s.   They have
line-level audio in and out.
For some unknown reason, his mic audio was coming back on the line out 
when

transmitting, even with the Monitor turned all the way off.
If we took the audio out from the speaker vs line out, the problem went
away and Mumble works perfectly.

So -- either there is some weird K3 setting that causes this (and I've 
been

using them 20+ years and don't know about it), or there
is something astray in the I/O board of the K3.   Anyway, we have a root
cause.

73

Gerry W1VE
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Re: [Elecraft] What is a reasonable turnover time to hear from Elecraft support:

2022-06-15 Thread CUTTER DAVID via Elecraft

Thanks for the note, Jim, I'll ask for advice.  
73 David G3UNA

> On 15 June 2022 at 16:41 N4ST - Jim  wrote:
> 
> 
> For some reason, your email and a couple others recently are showing up as
> [SPAM]
> ???
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Re: [Elecraft] What is a reasonable turnover time to hear from Elecraft support:

2022-06-15 Thread N4ST - Jim

For some reason, your email and a couple others recently are showing up as
[SPAM]
???

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Jim - N4ST

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Elecraft support:

I answered this today and the response from the reflector came in blank. 

This happens from time to time: I don't know why or how to fix it. 


My answer was: I posed a question last week and got a response from Elecraft
support within a day. 

73 David G3UNA
 

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Re: [Elecraft] What is a reasonable turnover time to hear from Elecraft support:

2022-06-15 Thread N4ST - Jim

Depends on the issue. In my case it was just some replacement K3S modules.
Here is my time line for a recent issue.

4/12 - K3S PA failure reported to Elecraft
4/14 - Email from Elecraft with testing procedures.
4/20 - RMA received and LPA/PA returned to Elecraft
6/13 - Refurbished new style LPA/PA received
6/14 - Configuration assistance from Elecraft - Back on the air.

So for me it was about 1 month from reporting initial problem to received
"new" parts and that included a 2-week vacation by the guy handling the RMA
accounting.
FWIW, I never called Elecraft although they did call me to discuss testing
procedures/results.

 
73,
Jim - N4ST



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from Elecraft support:

 

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[Elecraft] What is a reasonable turnover time to hear from Elecraft support:

2022-06-15 Thread CUTTER DAVID via Elecraft

I answered this today and the response from the reflector came in blank. 

This happens from time to time: I don't know why or how to fix it. 


My answer was: I posed a question last week and got a response from Elecraft 
support within a day. 

73 David G3UNA
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Re: [Elecraft] What is a reasonable turnover time to hear from Elecraft support:

2022-06-14 Thread CUTTER DAVID via Elecraft



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Re: [Elecraft] What is a reasonable turnover time to hear from Elecraft support:

2022-06-14 Thread John Paul Keon

As for the Elecraft Support Staff, I am very happy and a very
satisfied customer.

I emailed them several times and got replies within a reasonable amount of
time.

I sent my K3S in for repair and got it back in a short time.
They made the necessary repairs, and upgrades and it works better
than it did new.  Evidently when I built it I did not tighten down some
parts
and did not do some other things properly.
They sent it back calibrated and factory updated.

I also received several calls from Doug and he explained what happened
to the radio.  Some of the support techs also called.

Happy?  Yes!
Supportive? YES!

I know they were hung up for a while with the K4D production and the issues
they had in house.  After that cleared they took my RMS and got it done!

John Paul // AB4PP

On Tue, Jun 14, 2022 at 9:03 PM Bert  wrote:

> Don't assume the email has been received. Send the email again.
> Bert VE3NR
>
>
>
> On 2022-06-14 20:46, Dave (NK7Z) wrote:
> > I have had very good results with Elecraft Support!  Maybe a day or so
> > when I email them.
> >
> > 73, and thanks,
> > Dave (NK7Z)
> > https://www.nk7z.net
> > ARRL Volunteer Examiner
> > ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
> > ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
> >
> > On 6/14/22 16:04, John Paul Keon wrote:
> >> I get answers in a day or two depending on the holidays and the
> >> weekends.
> >>
> >> No problem here.
> >>
> >> John Paul // AB4PP
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 14, 2022 at 6:13 PM Stephen Dubin via Elecraft <
> >> elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>>   I sent an inquiry to Elecraft Support (my plaintiff "What to do
> >>> when'When
> >>> all else fails' fails:?" message) and * have not hear back.  I
> >>> wonder what,
> >>> under current conditions, is a reasonable time to wait for a
> >>> response or,
> >>> at least,  acknowledgement..  TNX FER  HELP!
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Re: [Elecraft] What is a reasonable turnover time to hear from Elecraft support:

2022-06-14 Thread Bert


Don't assume the email has been received. Send the email again.
Bert VE3NR



On 2022-06-14 20:46, Dave (NK7Z) wrote:
I have had very good results with Elecraft Support!  Maybe a day or so 
when I email them.


73, and thanks,
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On 6/14/22 16:04, John Paul Keon wrote:
I get answers in a day or two depending on the holidays and the 
weekends.


No problem here.

John Paul // AB4PP

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when'When
all else fails' fails:?" message) and * have not hear back.  I 
wonder what,
under current conditions, is a reasonable time to wait for a 
response or,

at least,  acknowledgement..  TNX FER  HELP!
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Re: [Elecraft] What is a reasonable turnover time to hear from Elecraft support:

2022-06-14 Thread Dave (NK7Z)

I have had very good results with Elecraft Support!  Maybe a day or so 
when I email them.


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On 6/14/22 16:04, John Paul Keon wrote:

I get answers in a day or two depending on the holidays and the weekends.

No problem here.

John Paul // AB4PP

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all else fails' fails:?" message) and * have not hear back.  I wonder what,
under current conditions, is a reasonable time to wait for a response or,
at least,  acknowledgement..  TNX FER  HELP!
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Re: [Elecraft] What is a reasonable turnover time to hear from Elecraft support:

2022-06-14 Thread KJ7SOY

I’ve had replies in two days and I’ve had replies in three weeks. It all 
depends on how busy they are, who’s in and out of the shop, and how swamped 
they are with emails. 

73
Adrian, KJ7SOY


> On Jun 14, 2022, at 4:06 PM, John Paul Keon  wrote:
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> I get answers in a day or two depending on the holidays and the weekends.
> 
> No problem here.
> 
> John Paul // AB4PP
> 
>> On Tue, Jun 14, 2022 at 6:13 PM Stephen Dubin via Elecraft <
>> > wrote:
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>> I sent an inquiry to Elecraft Support (my plaintiff "What to do when'When
>> all else fails' fails:?" message) and * have not hear back.  I wonder what,
>> under current conditions, is a reasonable time to wait for a response or,
>> at least,  acknowledgement..  TNX FER  HELP!
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Re: [Elecraft] What is a reasonable turnover time to hear from Elecraft support:

2022-06-14 Thread John Paul Keon

I get answers in a day or two depending on the holidays and the weekends.

No problem here.

John Paul // AB4PP

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>  I sent an inquiry to Elecraft Support (my plaintiff "What to do when'When
> all else fails' fails:?" message) and * have not hear back.  I wonder what,
> under current conditions, is a reasonable time to wait for a response or,
> at least,  acknowledgement..  TNX FER  HELP!
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[Elecraft] What is a reasonable turnover time to hear from Elecraft support:

2022-06-14 Thread Stephen Dubin via Elecraft

 I sent an inquiry to Elecraft Support (my plaintiff "What to do when'When all 
else fails' fails:?" message) and * have not hear back.  I wonder what, under 
current conditions, is a reasonable time to wait for a response or, at least,  
acknowledgement..  TNX FER  HELP! 
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[Elecraft] What do I do when "When all else fails" fails?: (boot and reload problem)

2022-06-11 Thread Stephen Dubin via Elecraft

 Today when I pressed the "power" button on K3; instead of the friendly startup 
message,  I got four blinking green lights followed by an evanescent blank 
orange main screen.  I invoked the "hold in "down/change" knob while pressing 
"power" which gave interesting but not useful results.  So,  I connected my 
computer with the K3 utility program and checked to be sure I had (on my 
computer) the latest firmware.. I then followed the directions in the help file 
for "What if all else fails,"  to attempt downloading of fresh firmware.  After 
holding in the "power" button for 10 seconds, I go the predicted flashing red 
"TX"  light and the "MCU LD"  on the screen. I operated the utility program (* 
apparently successfully)  to "send all firmware  to radio" and the green stripe 
progressed across my computer's screen with the following sequence of messages: 
Elecraft K3 Utility Revision 1.16.7.25
OS Version 10.0 Build 19044 
K3 MCU revision ??.??. RS-232 speed 38400 bit/s.
Sending firmware file C:\Users\dubin\AppData\Roaming\Elecraft\K3 
Firmware\hmcu0567.hex to MCU
Waiting 6 seconds for reset to complete
Error code 0xE245: No response after reset
MCU verification failed. Reload MCU.
Click "Close" to close this window I did this procedure two more times with he 
same  outcome.\ What do I do now that "When all else fails" seems to fail? I 
will sincerely appreciate any help ( especially if it works) to get my beloved 
K3 working. .
VY 73 de W3UECSteve Dubin39.928995 N, -75.339629 W 
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[Elecraft] What happened to ALC?

2022-02-02 Thread Bob McGraw

I'll show my age by doing this, but lets revert mentally back to the 
Collins S Line.   The transceiver, using a pair of 6146's in the PA, was 
most efficient and linear when properly tuned and loaded.  It produced 
about 120 to 140 watts of PEP output.  And there was NO Power control or 
method to reduce the power as we know it today.   Introduce the 30L1 
linear amplifier, being 4 x 811's, which required about 60 to 80 watts 
of drive to reach maximum rated output.  So the issue now is, how do we 
get the properly tuned and loaded transceiver down to the correct drive 
level for the 30L1?   ALC is the Collins answer.  Thus the voltage 
determined by the amplifier grid current was fed back to the inter-stage 
of the driving transmitter to effectively reduce the output while still 
retaining the correct tuning and loading of the transceiver PA.


Today it seems that the designers have monkeyed around with the time 
constants in the ALC algorithm to improve certain aspects of the signal, 
thus reducing key clicks and overshoot,  but seemingly at the sacrifice 
of certain other areas of the signal.  Thus we find that ALC is not to 
be used to control power or raise the average power but designed to 
prevent over drive of any stage. Correctly, Speech Processing is deemed 
much more effectively used and with less undesired effects on speech 
than ALC.   In fact, one amp manufacturer says "run the transmitter at 
full power and let the Smart ALC in the amplifier adjust the required 
drive accordingly via the ALC signal".  Oh wow!  Certainly asking for 
trouble in my thinking.


In my world of audio, ALC is much like limiting with an input to output 
ratio of 20:1.  This says a 20 dB increase on the input causes only a 1 
dB change in output.  Now enter compression, where the input to output 
ratio is anywhere from 1:3 to about 10:3. Again a 10 dB input change 
yields a 3 dB output. Of course there are different attack times and 
release times applied to both limiting and compression.  Newer 
technology systems have the ability to analyze the various components of 
the input signal and adjust the attack and release times quite 
effectively.  Many Speech Processing algorithms have the same ability.  
Thus they are better suited for raising average PEP output.


A second factor existing is the issue where hams like to see their power 
meter indicate the rated transceiver power.  With some of the electronic 
power measuring devices that may work OK. However, with mechanical power 
indicating devices, the ballistics of the meter movement, meaning the 
slow response and overshoot damping, will not allow a mechanical meter 
to correctly show the energy level of ones SSB voice signal.  The 
typical mechanical movement shows about -6 dB less or 25 watts for a 100 
watt PEP signal. Of course speech processing will raise the average PEP 
level, but again the true PEP remains at 100 watts.


And as Paul Harvey would say; "and now you know the rest of the story".

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 1/31/2022 9:01 PM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:

On Jan 30, 2022, at 1:10 PM, Fred Jensen  wrote:

I can remember, shortly after SSB appeared on the ham bands that "ALC" showed 
up and was immediately inducted into that top category of things like canned beer and 
sliced bread.  It would reduce the dynamic range of your signal and fill out your RF 
envelope with DX inducing energy.  It didn't matter if you preferred the James Earl Jones 
sound by close talking your microphone, or the Storm Drain sound with the gain up and 
speaking from across the room.  Not to worry, ALC will take care of it for you and you 
will fully pack your RF envelope.

Tomorrow is the first day of February 2022 and ALC occupies a less than coveted spot in the same 
category that also contains last night's broccoli casserole.  One wonders why manufacturers even 
put connectors and meters labeled "ALC" on their radios.  "Four solid bars, and the 
fifth barely flashing because the fifth bar is where ALC starts.  Just barely flashing ... you DO 
NOT want to engage the ALC!"

I realize that while we believe that the rules of electricity don't change and 
none of us ever inspect our electricity very closely ... if we did we'd find 
the power company is selling us used electricity as if it was new ... what 
changed?  If ALC was slicker than snot back then, why isn't it now?

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County


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Re: [Elecraft] What happened to ALC?

2022-01-31 Thread Fred Jensen

Not sure I see the difference.  AVC [now called AGC aka audio 
compression], at it's simplest rectifies the audio from the detector and 
uses it as variable bias on one or more of the IF stages such that the 
IF gain is inversely proportional to the audio level.  The original goal 
was to provide a constant volume in the presence of a fading RF signal.  
The K3 takes that concept to exceptional heights of course with multiple 
attack times, thresholds, slopes, and release times, maybe a tad too 
many for folks like me.  ALC, at its simplest rectifies the RF at the 
input to the PA and feeds the variable DC back into the transmit chain 
to control the power applied to the PA with the goal of preventing  PA 
saturation.


Both introduce distortion by the very fact that they modify the waveform 
of the original signal.  Both reduce the dynamic range of the 
transmitted signal, that is, both increase the average energy in the RF 
envelope. The original question however was simply, "If ALC was so great 
at reducing the effects of PA saturation in the early days of SSB, why 
isn't it that great now?"  Granted, one manufacturer's amplifier may not 
feed back the correct varying DC levels to another manufacturer's 
transceiver, but that's just adjustment.


Around the time SSB was being born, most [or maybe nearly all] AM 
broadcast stations ran at least two audio limiters in the chain to the 
transmitter.  The first had a fairly short time constant and sort of 
shaved off the peaks.  The second ["Sta-Level"] had a much longer time 
constant and responded to the average audio level.  The result was 
modulation that hung around 100% all the time.  AM broadcast has changed 
a lot since then and I don't know for sure if they are as heavily 
limited, but listening to several local ones, they sure sound like they 
have almost zero dynamic range.


73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

Walter Underwood wrote on 1/30/2022 5:07 PM:

I expect that ALC is being used for two different parts of the transmission 
chain.

Audio ALC would reduce the dynamic range of the audio. That automatically 
reduces the microphone gain to maintain a consistent level of modulation. That 
would be inside the audio part of transmitter, before the modulator. No 
external connector involved.

ALC between a transmitter and amplifier does use an external connector. That 
kind of ALC reduces the transmitter power to try and avoid overdriving the 
amplifier. It can cause overdriving and splatter.

Unlike the audio version, in amp ALC  the two parts of the control loop (sensor 
and gain control) are in different boxes, maybe made by different 
manufacturers. Because the response time and sensitivity of the transmitter 
gain control are unknown, the system relies on luck to have a stable control 
loop that doesn’t oscillate. The way to avoid oscillation is to have a slow 
time constant on the sensor. That means that it just cannot respond quickly, so 
overshoot will happen and will cause splatter. With audio ALC, the control loop 
is an integrated whole and can be designed to be quick and stable.

wunder
K6WRU
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Re: [Elecraft] What happened to ALC?

2022-01-31 Thread Walter Underwood

“The modulator” means “the modulator code in the DSP” of course. If the 
compression is done by RF limiting, I expect that is also done in the DSP.

The ALC you are describing is transmitter gain ALC. That is different from 
audio gain ALC.

wunder
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> On Jan 31, 2022, at 12:07 PM, Andy Durbin  wrote:
> 
> "If so, the ALC would be before the modulator and compression after it."
> 
> I remember modulators  but there isn't one in my TS-590.  I doubt there is 
> one in any modern rig.  In the TS-590 architecture compression is done in DSP 
> (Digital Signal Processing) and ALC is applied way down path at a TX IF 
> amplifier.
> 
> ALC gets a bad rap but it is alive and well in Kenwood rigs.  It works 
> without introducing signal distortion or harmonics.  Having said that, I do 
> not use external ALC with my KPA500.
> 
> Andy, k3wyc
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Re: [Elecraft] What happened to ALC?

2022-01-31 Thread Andy Durbin

"If so, the ALC would be before the modulator and compression after it."

I remember modulators  but there isn't one in my TS-590.  I doubt there is one 
in any modern rig.  In the TS-590 architecture compression is done in DSP 
(Digital Signal Processing) and ALC is applied way down path at a TX IF 
amplifier.

ALC gets a bad rap but it is alive and well in Kenwood rigs.  It works without 
introducing signal distortion or harmonics.  Having said that, I do not use 
external ALC with my KPA500.

Andy, k3wyc
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Re: [Elecraft] What happened to ALC?

2022-01-31 Thread Walter Underwood

ALC is supposed to be linear, non-distorting. Change the level without changing 
the waveform.

Compression is non-linear and changes (distorts) the waveform.

I’ve read that the K3 uses RF limiting at the first IF for compression. If so, 
the ALC would be before the modulator and compression after it.

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

> On Jan 31, 2022, at 5:32 AM, Bob Schwerdlin  wrote:
> 
> I agree.  From one old sound engineer to another... I see this as audio 
> compression.
> 
> Bob, WG9L
> 
> On 1/30/2022 6:17 PM, ws6x@gmail.com wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Fred Jensen
>> Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2022 4:10 PM
>> To: Elecraft Reflector 
>> Subject: [Elecraft] What happened to ALC?
>> 
>> I can remember, shortly after SSB appeared on the ham bands that "ALC"
>> showed up and was immediately inducted into that top category of things like 
>> canned beer and sliced bread.  It would reduce the dynamic range of your 
>> signal and fill out your RF envelope...
>> Maybe I'm not well-versed in today's whiz-bang technology, but to this old 
>> sound engineer this sounds suspiciously like compression.
>> Jim - WS6X
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Re: [Elecraft] What happened to ALC?

2022-01-31 Thread Gil Drynan



It sure does.


> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Fred Jensen
> Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2022 4:10 PM
> To: Elecraft Reflector 
> Subject: [Elecraft] What happened to ALC?
>
> I can remember, shortly after SSB appeared on the ham bands that "ALC"
> showed up and was immediately inducted into that top category of things
> like canned beer and sliced bread.  It would reduce the dynamic range of
> your signal and fill out your RF envelope...
>>>>
> Maybe I'm not well-versed in today's whiz-bang technology, but to this old
> sound engineer this sounds suspiciously like compression.
> Jim - WS6X
>
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Re: [Elecraft] What happened to ALC?

2022-01-31 Thread Bob Schwerdlin

I agree.  From one old sound engineer to another... I see this as audio 
compression.


Bob, WG9L

On 1/30/2022 6:17 PM, ws6x@gmail.com wrote:

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Fred Jensen
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2022 4:10 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: [Elecraft] What happened to ALC?

I can remember, shortly after SSB appeared on the ham bands that "ALC"
showed up and was immediately inducted into that top category of things like 
canned beer and sliced bread.  It would reduce the dynamic range of your signal 
and fill out your RF envelope...
Maybe I'm not well-versed in today's whiz-bang technology, but to this old 
sound engineer this sounds suspiciously like compression.
Jim - WS6X

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Re: [Elecraft] What happened to ALC?

2022-01-30 Thread Walter Underwood

I expect that ALC is being used for two different parts of the transmission 
chain.

Audio ALC would reduce the dynamic range of the audio. That automatically 
reduces the microphone gain to maintain a consistent level of modulation. That 
would be inside the audio part of transmitter, before the modulator. No 
external connector involved.

ALC between a transmitter and amplifier does use an external connector. That 
kind of ALC reduces the transmitter power to try and avoid overdriving the 
amplifier. It can cause overdriving and splatter.

Unlike the audio version, in amp ALC  the two parts of the control loop (sensor 
and gain control) are in different boxes, maybe made by different 
manufacturers. Because the response time and sensitivity of the transmitter 
gain control are unknown, the system relies on luck to have a stable control 
loop that doesn’t oscillate. The way to avoid oscillation is to have a slow 
time constant on the sensor. That means that it just cannot respond quickly, so 
overshoot will happen and will cause splatter. With audio ALC, the control loop 
is an integrated whole and can be designed to be quick and stable.

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> On Jan 30, 2022, at 1:10 PM, Fred Jensen  wrote:
> 
> I can remember, shortly after SSB appeared on the ham bands that "ALC" showed 
> up and was immediately inducted into that top category of things like canned 
> beer and sliced bread.  It would reduce the dynamic range of your signal and 
> fill out your RF envelope with DX inducing energy.  It didn't matter if you 
> preferred the James Earl Jones sound by close talking your microphone, or the 
> Storm Drain sound with the gain up and speaking from across the room.  Not to 
> worry, ALC will take care of it for you and you will fully pack your RF 
> envelope.
> 
> Tomorrow is the first day of February 2022 and ALC occupies a less than 
> coveted spot in the same category that also contains last night's broccoli 
> casserole.  One wonders why manufacturers even put connectors and meters 
> labeled "ALC" on their radios.  "Four solid bars, and the fifth barely 
> flashing because the fifth bar is where ALC starts.  Just barely flashing ... 
> you DO NOT want to engage the ALC!"
> 
> I realize that while we believe that the rules of electricity don't change 
> and none of us ever inspect our electricity very closely ... if we did we'd 
> find the power company is selling us used electricity as if it was new ... 
> what changed?  If ALC was slicker than snot back then, why isn't it now?
> 
> 73,
> 
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] What happened to ALC?

2022-01-30 Thread ws6x.ars

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Fred Jensen
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2022 4:10 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: [Elecraft] What happened to ALC?

I can remember, shortly after SSB appeared on the ham bands that "ALC" 
showed up and was immediately inducted into that top category of things like 
canned beer and sliced bread.  It would reduce the dynamic range of your signal 
and fill out your RF envelope...
>>>
Maybe I'm not well-versed in today's whiz-bang technology, but to this old 
sound engineer this sounds suspiciously like compression.
Jim - WS6X 

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[Elecraft] What happened to ALC?

2022-01-30 Thread Fred Jensen

I can remember, shortly after SSB appeared on the ham bands that "ALC" 
showed up and was immediately inducted into that top category of things 
like canned beer and sliced bread.  It would reduce the dynamic range of 
your signal and fill out your RF envelope with DX inducing energy.  It 
didn't matter if you preferred the James Earl Jones sound by close 
talking your microphone, or the Storm Drain sound with the gain up and 
speaking from across the room.  Not to worry, ALC will take care of it 
for you and you will fully pack your RF envelope.


Tomorrow is the first day of February 2022 and ALC occupies a less than 
coveted spot in the same category that also contains last night's 
broccoli casserole.  One wonders why manufacturers even put connectors 
and meters labeled "ALC" on their radios.  "Four solid bars, and the 
fifth barely flashing because the fifth bar is where ALC starts.  Just 
barely flashing ... you DO NOT want to engage the ALC!"


I realize that while we believe that the rules of electricity don't 
change and none of us ever inspect our electricity very closely ... if 
we did we'd find the power company is selling us used electricity as if 
it was new ... what changed?  If ALC was slicker than snot back then, 
why isn't it now?


73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County



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Re: [Elecraft] what soundcard for K3 and Mac

2021-10-31 Thread Walter Underwood

This list was updated in 2018. 

http://www.telepostinc.com/soundcards.html 


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> On Oct 31, 2021, at 11:54 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:
> 
> 
>> What I haven’t quite figured out is how important is this really is
>> to weak signal digital decoding.
> 
> Low noise in a sound card is important to weak signal decoding in two
> ways:
> 
> 1) you want the inherent noise floor in the sound card to be 10 to 15
>   dB *LESS* than the minimum - receiver noise + "antenna" - noise.  On
>   VHF with a very quiet receiver the receiver noise can be quite low.
> 
> 2) high noise level in a sound card directly subtracts from the dynamic
>   range (ADC clipping - noise floor).  With a high noise floor, strong
>   signals either overflow the ADC or the receiver AGC must reduce gain
>   with moves the weak signals below the (higher) noise floor.
> 
>> After testing, I settled on a Sound BlasterX G5 model SB1700 which 
> > tested at about -120dB noise level.
> 
> -128 dB relative to what?  A quality 16 bit sound card has a theoretical
> dynamic range of 97dB - a quality 16 bit card (low noise) will produce
> about 90 dB dynamic range in practice.  A 24 bit sound card has 144 dB
> theoretical dynamic range but a practical 24 bit sound card will produce
> maybe 115 dB dynamic range but to take advantage of that dynamic range
> the sound card (any audio preamps and the ADC) need to operate with a
> supply voltage greater than the typical 3.3 or 5 V USB supply.  A 24 bit
> sound card with a 5 V (USB) supply will be lucky to achieve 100 dB
> dynamic range.
> 
> 73,
> 
>   ... Joe, W4TV
> 
> 
> On 2021-10-31 10:41 AM, SteveL wrote:
>> Dave,
>> This interest caught my eye awhile back:
>> http://members.chello.at/oe1mww/sound-card-check/ 
>> 
>> I’ve tested several of the inexpensive (<$10) nameless USB sound card 
>> dongles using his method and saw a wide variety of noise floors - however 
>> significantly higher than a name brand USB card.  After testing, I settled 
>> on a Sound BlasterX G5 model SB1700 which tested at about -120dB noise 
>> level.  How does this compare?  My nameless sound dongles noise level tested 
>> -70 to -90dB - a big difference.
>> What I haven’t quite figured out is how important is this really is to weak 
>> signal digital decoding.
>> Steve
>> aa8af
>>> On Oct 30, 2021, at 10:49 PM, David Christ  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes this has been bead to death previously. Jim Brown made a number of 
>>> suggestions in a paper from 2014.  However the market has changed.  Those 
>>> models are all discontinued and those manufacturers' follow ons are much 
>>> more expensive and have features that are not needed for sound card modes.  
>>> Any offerings of these older models seem to be coming from overseas.  The 
>>> $100 and under market seems to be dominated by mystery brand dongles which 
>>> are a gamble.
>>> 
>>> So can any one recommend a tried and true sound card interface for use 
>>> between an K3 (without a sound card) and a MacBook Pro (which has no mike 
>>> or line in jack)?  I would like to hear from people who have actually the 
>>> unit, not just speculation.
>>> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] what soundcard for K3 and Mac

2021-10-31 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV




What I haven’t quite figured out is how important is this really is
to weak signal digital decoding.


Low noise in a sound card is important to weak signal decoding in two
ways:

1) you want the inherent noise floor in the sound card to be 10 to 15
   dB *LESS* than the minimum - receiver noise + "antenna" - noise.  On
   VHF with a very quiet receiver the receiver noise can be quite low.

2) high noise level in a sound card directly subtracts from the dynamic
   range (ADC clipping - noise floor).  With a high noise floor, strong
   signals either overflow the ADC or the receiver AGC must reduce gain
   with moves the weak signals below the (higher) noise floor.

After testing, I settled on a Sound BlasterX G5 model SB1700 which 

> tested at about -120dB noise level.

-128 dB relative to what?  A quality 16 bit sound card has a theoretical
dynamic range of 97dB - a quality 16 bit card (low noise) will produce
about 90 dB dynamic range in practice.  A 24 bit sound card has 144 dB
theoretical dynamic range but a practical 24 bit sound card will produce
maybe 115 dB dynamic range but to take advantage of that dynamic range
the sound card (any audio preamps and the ADC) need to operate with a
supply voltage greater than the typical 3.3 or 5 V USB supply.  A 24 bit
sound card with a 5 V (USB) supply will be lucky to achieve 100 dB
dynamic range.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2021-10-31 10:41 AM, SteveL wrote:

Dave,
This interest caught my eye awhile back:

http://members.chello.at/oe1mww/sound-card-check/ 


I’ve tested several of the inexpensive (<$10) nameless USB sound card dongles 
using his method and saw a wide variety of noise floors - however significantly 
higher than a name brand USB card.  After testing, I settled on a Sound BlasterX 
G5 model SB1700 which tested at about -120dB noise level.  How does this compare?  
My nameless sound dongles noise level tested -70 to -90dB - a big difference.

What I haven’t quite figured out is how important is this really is to weak 
signal digital decoding.

Steve
aa8af


On Oct 30, 2021, at 10:49 PM, David Christ  wrote:

Yes this has been bead to death previously. Jim Brown made a number of 
suggestions in a paper from 2014.  However the market has changed.  Those 
models are all discontinued and those manufacturers' follow ons are much more 
expensive and have features that are not needed for sound card modes.  Any 
offerings of these older models seem to be coming from overseas.  The $100 and 
under market seems to be dominated by mystery brand dongles which are a gamble.

So can any one recommend a tried and true sound card interface for use between 
an K3 (without a sound card) and a MacBook Pro (which has no mike or line in 
jack)?  I would like to hear from people who have actually the unit, not just 
speculation.




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Re: [Elecraft] what soundcard for K3 and Mac

2021-10-31 Thread SteveL

Dave,
This interest caught my eye awhile back:

http://members.chello.at/oe1mww/sound-card-check/ 

I’ve tested several of the inexpensive (<$10) nameless USB sound card dongles 
using his method and saw a wide variety of noise floors - however significantly 
higher than a name brand USB card.  After testing, I settled on a Sound 
BlasterX G5 model SB1700 which tested at about -120dB noise level.  How does 
this compare?  My nameless sound dongles noise level tested -70 to -90dB - a 
big difference.  

What I haven’t quite figured out is how important is this really is to weak 
signal digital decoding.  

Steve
aa8af 

> On Oct 30, 2021, at 10:49 PM, David Christ  wrote:
> 
> Yes this has been bead to death previously. Jim Brown made a number of 
> suggestions in a paper from 2014.  However the market has changed.  Those 
> models are all discontinued and those manufacturers' follow ons are much more 
> expensive and have features that are not needed for sound card modes.  Any 
> offerings of these older models seem to be coming from overseas.  The $100 
> and under market seems to be dominated by mystery brand dongles which are a 
> gamble.
> 
> So can any one recommend a tried and true sound card interface for use 
> between an K3 (without a sound card) and a MacBook Pro (which has no mike or 
> line in jack)?  I would like to hear from people who have actually the unit, 
> not just speculation.
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] what soundcard for K3 and Mac

2021-10-30 Thread Jim Brown


On 10/30/2021 7:49 PM, David Christ wrote:

Jim Brown made a number of suggestions in a paper from 2014.  However the 
market has changed.  Those models are all discontinued and those manufacturers' 
follow ons are much more expensive and have features that are not needed for 
sound card modes.


Yes. I would feel comfortable buying a used Tascam US100 from an eBay 
vendor with > 99% positive ratings. N8LP found some very nice ASUS 
products for use with his spectrum display system, the U5 and U7, and I 
updated that app note to include them. Both sold for less than $80 at 
the time, but both are considerably more expensive now. AG6EE uses one 
of them with a KX3 for his extensive and demanding 6M expeditions.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] what soundcard for K3 and Mac

2021-10-30 Thread Bill Frantz


On 10/30/21 at 10:49 PM, radio...@mchsi.com (David Christ) wrote:

So can any one recommend a tried and true sound card interface 
for use between an K3 (without a sound card) and a MacBook Pro 
(which has no mike or line in jack)?  I would like to hear from 
people who have actually the unit, not just speculation.


I have been quite successful with both a SignaLink and with a 
no-name "sound card" that I got for $5 from Amazon. We're not 
talking about serious HiFi here. Almost anything with reasonably 
low distortion should work fine.


73 Bill AE6JV


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[Elecraft] what soundcard for K3 and Mac

2021-10-30 Thread David Christ

Yes this has been bead to death previously. Jim Brown made a number of 
suggestions in a paper from 2014.  However the market has changed.  Those 
models are all discontinued and those manufacturers' follow ons are much more 
expensive and have features that are not needed for sound card modes.  Any 
offerings of these older models seem to be coming from overseas.  The $100 and 
under market seems to be dominated by mystery brand dongles which are a gamble.

So can any one recommend a tried and true sound card interface for use between 
an K3 (without a sound card) and a MacBook Pro (which has no mike or line in 
jack)?  I would like to hear from people who have actually the unit, not just 
speculation.

David K0LUM
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Re: [Elecraft] What I need and meant

2021-06-30 Thread Chuck Shefflette - AA3CS

I use RUMlogNG on a Mac for my logging - I’m still looking for a good
logging program for Linux - CQRLOG is not an option - requires too much
overhead. RUMlog is a good general logger and has a contest mode that
actually works pretty well. It was written and continues to be maintained
and updated by dl2rum - originally for himself. It has become one of the
best loggers that runs on a Mac.

He now has a version specifically made to run on an iPhone or iPad. The
iPad version will also (with the appropriate connection) talk natively to a
K3 or KX3. I haven’t tried the iOS/iPadOS version since I don’t have an
iPad or iPhone anymore (went android but that’s another story) but from
what he has on his website, the iOS version looks pretty good.
https://dl2rum.de/rumsoft/RUMlog2Go.html

73,
Chuck - AA3CS

On Wed, Jun 30, 2021, 14:59 Jim Brown  wrote:

On 6/30/2021 11:32 AM, Cameron wrote:
> This is all being made all too complicated.  The simple solution is to get
> a Microsoft Surface Tablet (running W10) that will be a similar form
factor
> to an iPad, albeit running Windows.

Although I don't live in the Mac world, I'm told that there are decent
logging programs for Ios. Dunno about iPad. Skookum Logger is one I've
seen mentioned.
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Re: [Elecraft] What I need and meant

2021-06-30 Thread Jim Brown


On 6/30/2021 11:32 AM, Cameron wrote:

This is all being made all too complicated.  The simple solution is to get
a Microsoft Surface Tablet (running W10) that will be a similar form factor
to an iPad, albeit running Windows.


Although I don't live in the Mac world, I'm told that there are decent 
logging programs for Ios. Dunno about iPad. Skookum Logger is one I've 
seen mentioned.


About five years ago, I bought a used X230 Thinkpad (the smallest and 
lightest weight in the family) for much younger guys to drag up a 3 mile 
trail that gained 1,000 ft elevation to activate very rare grid CM79. I 
also bought a high capacity battery for it as a spare. On several trips, 
they got most of a day out of it before needing to change the battery.


It's a very capable computer, and we've used it in several portable 
setups for contest logging, including FD last weekend (running N1MM+), 
but not on its own battery. On FD, we were 1A Battery at 5W, so we ran 
it from a DC-DC supply running from solar-charged 12V lead acid 
batteries. DC-DC converters are usually RF-noisy, but W6GJB found one 
that isn't.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] What I need and meant

2021-06-30 Thread Cameron

This is all being made all too complicated.  The simple solution is to get
a Microsoft Surface Tablet (running W10) that will be a similar form factor
to an iPad, albeit running Windows.  Will your solar panel keep it
charged?  That I cannot tell you, but even if it does not, it will meet
nearly all of your requirements...worst case is that you need to buy an
external battery.

73

Cameron
KI4JDD


On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 1:56 PM John Marvin  wrote:

> Running a full Windows OS under emulation on a Raspberry Pi, just to run
> one app is not a very good idea (as Adrian pointed out).
>
> An alternative would be to run QEMU on the Pi, which provides an x86
> execution environment, and then try to get the N3FJP software running
> under Linux Wine (Wine provides versions of the Windows libraries needed
> by a  Windows app that translate to linux libraries / system calls). I'm
> not saying this is an easy path to follow, but there are a lot of people
> who have succeeded doing this. The N3FJP software is simple enough that
> it would probably work reasonably well. Getting all the pieces in place
> though will be difficult, unless you can find an appropriate canned
> image for the RPi that already has Wine and QEMU installed properly.
> Here's a two year old one for a RPi 3 running Debian Stretch:
>
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/pi-qemu-wine/
>
> People have been successful getting WIne running on Qemu on the RPi4 and
> newer Linux distributions, but I haven't seen a canned image for use by
> those who are not linux / QEMU experienced users. Here's a link to a
> tutorial that was used to create the above canned image (including a
> youtube video).  People have adapted that to make things work on the
> RPi4, etc :
>
> https://www.novaspirit.com/2019/04/15/run-x86-arm/
>
> There used to be a (non free) x86 environment for the Raspberry Pi
> called Exagear Desktop, but that is no longer available (but there are
> plenty of articles on the web giving instructions on how to run Wine on
> Exagear Desktop, so don't go down that rathole).
>
> Anyway, there's a lot more web pages that discuss this, and perhaps
> there is one out there that is more recent that would allow you to get
> it all running on a RPi 4.
>
> 73,
>
> John, AC0ZG
>
> On 6/30/2021 10:38 AM, Mike Short wrote:
> > Atomic Pi is an alternative for this. I have one running Win10 and
> logging
> > app. 12v power.
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 11:51 KJ7SOY  wrote:
> >
> >> Unfortunately that’s a terrible idea. I’ve been using Pi’s for 8 years.
> I
> >> currently have 23 of them deployed managing our home automation,
> >> surveillance systems, and other assorted tasks. 12 are in a rack in my
> >> rackmount cabinet and the rest are deployed around our property (6
> acres).
> >>
> >> The two things they do NOT do well are run Windows and run Android. I’ve
> >> tested multiple times, on multiple Pi’s (up to and including the 8GB PI
> 4)
> >> with every variant that has ever claimed to run on the Pi. They don’t.
> >> Period. Either they lack drivers, or they run slower than molasses in a
> >> freezer. They have NEVER functioned, and given the Pi’s architecture and
> >> their library demands likely never will. Virtualization makes no
> >> difference. They just don’t work.
> >>
> >> Please don’t waste your time trying this. It’s truly not worth the time
> >> you’d spend getting it installed.
> >>
> >> 73
> >> -Adrian
> >> KJ7SOY
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Elecraft] What I need and meant

2021-06-30 Thread John Marvin

Running a full Windows OS under emulation on a Raspberry Pi, just to run 
one app is not a very good idea (as Adrian pointed out).


An alternative would be to run QEMU on the Pi, which provides an x86 
execution environment, and then try to get the N3FJP software running 
under Linux Wine (Wine provides versions of the Windows libraries needed 
by a  Windows app that translate to linux libraries / system calls). I'm 
not saying this is an easy path to follow, but there are a lot of people 
who have succeeded doing this. The N3FJP software is simple enough that 
it would probably work reasonably well. Getting all the pieces in place 
though will be difficult, unless you can find an appropriate canned 
image for the RPi that already has Wine and QEMU installed properly.  
Here's a two year old one for a RPi 3 running Debian Stretch:


https://sourceforge.net/projects/pi-qemu-wine/

People have been successful getting WIne running on Qemu on the RPi4 and 
newer Linux distributions, but I haven't seen a canned image for use by 
those who are not linux / QEMU experienced users. Here's a link to a 
tutorial that was used to create the above canned image (including a 
youtube video).  People have adapted that to make things work on the 
RPi4, etc :


https://www.novaspirit.com/2019/04/15/run-x86-arm/

There used to be a (non free) x86 environment for the Raspberry Pi 
called Exagear Desktop, but that is no longer available (but there are 
plenty of articles on the web giving instructions on how to run Wine on 
Exagear Desktop, so don't go down that rathole).


Anyway, there's a lot more web pages that discuss this, and perhaps 
there is one out there that is more recent that would allow you to get 
it all running on a RPi 4.


73,

John, AC0ZG

On 6/30/2021 10:38 AM, Mike Short wrote:

Atomic Pi is an alternative for this. I have one running Win10 and logging
app. 12v power.

On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 11:51 KJ7SOY  wrote:


Unfortunately that’s a terrible idea. I’ve been using Pi’s for 8 years. I
currently have 23 of them deployed managing our home automation,
surveillance systems, and other assorted tasks. 12 are in a rack in my
rackmount cabinet and the rest are deployed around our property (6 acres).

The two things they do NOT do well are run Windows and run Android. I’ve
tested multiple times, on multiple Pi’s (up to and including the 8GB PI 4)
with every variant that has ever claimed to run on the Pi. They don’t.
Period. Either they lack drivers, or they run slower than molasses in a
freezer. They have NEVER functioned, and given the Pi’s architecture and
their library demands likely never will. Virtualization makes no
difference. They just don’t work.

Please don’t waste your time trying this. It’s truly not worth the time
you’d spend getting it installed.

73
-Adrian
KJ7SOY





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Re: [Elecraft] What I need and meant

2021-06-30 Thread Mike Short

Atomic Pi is an alternative for this. I have one running Win10 and logging
app. 12v power.

On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 11:51 KJ7SOY  wrote:

> Unfortunately that’s a terrible idea. I’ve been using Pi’s for 8 years. I
> currently have 23 of them deployed managing our home automation,
> surveillance systems, and other assorted tasks. 12 are in a rack in my
> rackmount cabinet and the rest are deployed around our property (6 acres).
>
> The two things they do NOT do well are run Windows and run Android. I’ve
> tested multiple times, on multiple Pi’s (up to and including the 8GB PI 4)
> with every variant that has ever claimed to run on the Pi. They don’t.
> Period. Either they lack drivers, or they run slower than molasses in a
> freezer. They have NEVER functioned, and given the Pi’s architecture and
> their library demands likely never will. Virtualization makes no
> difference. They just don’t work.
>
> Please don’t waste your time trying this. It’s truly not worth the time
> you’d spend getting it installed.
>
> 73
> -Adrian
> KJ7SOY
>
>
>
> > On Jun 30, 2021, at 7:24 AM, Kurt Pawlikowski  wrote:
> >
> > Paul & Paul & Kenneth...
> >
> > Something you might consider is running Windows on a Raspberry Pi.
> (see this page <
> https://www.lfedge.org/2021/01/26/you-can-now-run-windows-10-on-a-raspberry-pi-using-project-eve/#:~:text=BlogProject%20EVE-,You%20Can%20Now%20Run%20Windows%2010,Raspberry%20Pi%20using%20Project%20EVE!&text=Ever%20since%20Project%20EVE%20came,out%20EVE%27s%20virtualization%20of%20hardware.>).
> If it can run Windows 10, you could probably run a smaller version of
> Windows (NT, 7, maybe 3.1!). It would probably run on a small 12 volt
> battery for days... the only thing would be the mouse/screen. JAT (Just A
> Thought).
> >
> > kurtt WB9FMC
> >
> >> On 6/29/2021 22:13, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> >> That thing is a dead end running a five year old extremely low end
> >> processor. Obviously N3FJP will run fine, but that’s about all it’ll be
> >> tolerable for. The new Samsung Galaxy Book Go is probably the best
> choice
> >> for a reasonably low cost and highly power efficient Windows 10 laptop
> >> ($349 and it’ll run for 18 hours on the internal battery).
> >>
> >> 73,
> >>
> >> Paul, N8HM
> >>
> >>> On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 22:24 Paul Van Dyke 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Look at a "Fusion 5" tablet
> >>>
> >>> Cheers Paul. KB9AVO
> >>>
>  On Tue, Jun 29, 2021, 10:18 PM Kenneth Christiansen 
> wrote:
> >>>
>  I want a Windows 10 computer that I can run the N3FJP logging program
> and
>  draws about the same current from a 12 volt solar charged battery as
> my
>  iPad does. I wish there was a way to be able to run N3FJP on my iPad.
> >>> That
>  is all I want so don’t wast the band width arguing about anything
> else .
>  73 and hope this time goes better.
>  Ken. W0CZ
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] What I need and meant

2021-06-30 Thread KJ7SOY

Unfortunately that’s a terrible idea. I’ve been using Pi’s for 8 years. I 
currently have 23 of them deployed managing our home automation, surveillance 
systems, and other assorted tasks. 12 are in a rack in my rackmount cabinet and 
the rest are deployed around our property (6 acres). 

The two things they do NOT do well are run Windows and run Android. I’ve tested 
multiple times, on multiple Pi’s (up to and including the 8GB PI 4) with every 
variant that has ever claimed to run on the Pi. They don’t. Period. Either they 
lack drivers, or they run slower than molasses in a freezer. They have NEVER 
functioned, and given the Pi’s architecture and their library demands likely 
never will. Virtualization makes no difference. They just don’t work. 

Please don’t waste your time trying this. It’s truly not worth the time you’d 
spend getting it installed.  

73
-Adrian
KJ7SOY



> On Jun 30, 2021, at 7:24 AM, Kurt Pawlikowski  wrote:
> 
> Paul & Paul & Kenneth...
> 
> Something you might consider is running Windows on a Raspberry Pi. (see 
> this page 
> ).
>  If it can run Windows 10, you could probably run a smaller version of 
> Windows (NT, 7, maybe 3.1!). It would probably run on a small 12 volt battery 
> for days... the only thing would be the mouse/screen. JAT (Just A Thought).
> 
> kurtt WB9FMC
> 
>> On 6/29/2021 22:13, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
>> That thing is a dead end running a five year old extremely low end
>> processor. Obviously N3FJP will run fine, but that’s about all it’ll be
>> tolerable for. The new Samsung Galaxy Book Go is probably the best choice
>> for a reasonably low cost and highly power efficient Windows 10 laptop
>> ($349 and it’ll run for 18 hours on the internal battery).
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Paul, N8HM
>> 
>>> On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 22:24 Paul Van Dyke  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Look at a "Fusion 5" tablet
>>> 
>>> Cheers Paul. KB9AVO
>>> 
 On Tue, Jun 29, 2021, 10:18 PM Kenneth Christiansen  wrote:
>>> 
 I want a Windows 10 computer that I can run the N3FJP logging program and
 draws about the same current from a 12 volt solar charged battery as my
 iPad does. I wish there was a way to be able to run N3FJP on my iPad.
>>> That
 is all I want so don’t wast the band width arguing about anything else .
 73 and hope this time goes better.
 Ken. W0CZ
 
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Re: [Elecraft] What I need and meant

2021-06-30 Thread Kurt Pawlikowski


Paul & Paul & Kenneth...

    Something you might consider is running Windows on a Raspberry Pi. 
(see this page 
). 
If it can run Windows 10, you could probably run a smaller version of 
Windows (NT, 7, maybe 3.1!). It would probably run on a small 12 volt 
battery for days... the only thing would be the mouse/screen. JAT (Just 
A Thought).


    kurtt WB9FMC

On 6/29/2021 22:13, Paul Stoetzer wrote:

That thing is a dead end running a five year old extremely low end
processor. Obviously N3FJP will run fine, but that’s about all it’ll be
tolerable for. The new Samsung Galaxy Book Go is probably the best choice
for a reasonably low cost and highly power efficient Windows 10 laptop
($349 and it’ll run for 18 hours on the internal battery).

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 22:24 Paul Van Dyke  wrote:


Look at a "Fusion 5" tablet

Cheers Paul. KB9AVO

On Tue, Jun 29, 2021, 10:18 PM Kenneth Christiansen  wrote:


I want a Windows 10 computer that I can run the N3FJP logging program and
draws about the same current from a 12 volt solar charged battery as my
iPad does. I wish there was a way to be able to run N3FJP on my iPad.

That

is all I want so don’t wast the band width arguing about anything else .
73 and hope this time goes better.
Ken. W0CZ

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Re: [Elecraft] What is DX?

2021-06-29 Thread Eric Swartz

This thread is also now CLOSED.

Please take arguments on amateur radio policy, what is 'real' Dx or 'real' 
amateir radio etc to another forum. These topics are not appropriate for this 
list and consume too much bandwidth when they pop up.  (Sort of like the 
'Whack-a-Mole' game.. ;-)

73,
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Re: [Elecraft] What I need and meant

2021-06-29 Thread Paul Stoetzer

That thing is a dead end running a five year old extremely low end
processor. Obviously N3FJP will run fine, but that’s about all it’ll be
tolerable for. The new Samsung Galaxy Book Go is probably the best choice
for a reasonably low cost and highly power efficient Windows 10 laptop
($349 and it’ll run for 18 hours on the internal battery).

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 22:24 Paul Van Dyke  wrote:

> Look at a "Fusion 5" tablet
>
> Cheers Paul. KB9AVO
>
> On Tue, Jun 29, 2021, 10:18 PM Kenneth Christiansen  wrote:
>
> > I want a Windows 10 computer that I can run the N3FJP logging program and
> > draws about the same current from a 12 volt solar charged battery as my
> > iPad does. I wish there was a way to be able to run N3FJP on my iPad.
> That
> > is all I want so don’t wast the band width arguing about anything else .
> > 73 and hope this time goes better.
> > Ken. W0CZ
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Re: [Elecraft] What I need and meant

2021-06-29 Thread Paul Van Dyke

Look at a "Fusion 5" tablet

Cheers Paul. KB9AVO

On Tue, Jun 29, 2021, 10:18 PM Kenneth Christiansen  wrote:

> I want a Windows 10 computer that I can run the N3FJP logging program and
> draws about the same current from a 12 volt solar charged battery as my
> iPad does. I wish there was a way to be able to run N3FJP on my iPad. That
> is all I want so don’t wast the band width arguing about anything else .
> 73 and hope this time goes better.
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[Elecraft] What I need and meant

2021-06-29 Thread Kenneth Christiansen

I want a Windows 10 computer that I can run the N3FJP logging program and draws 
about the same current from a 12 volt solar charged battery as my iPad does. I 
wish there was a way to be able to run N3FJP on my iPad. That is all I want so 
don’t wast the band width arguing about anything else .
73 and hope this time goes better. 
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Re: [Elecraft] What is DX?

2021-06-29 Thread Rich



On 6/29/2021 20:44 PM, Julia Tuttle wrote:
I should start with remote operating does not really interest me, but it 
is a big thing right now. Most of the folks I know operate their own 
station remotely.

It depends on what you're doing with it.

If you're using it for individual contests/awards/etc., I feel like setting
up your own station is required for it to "count".


>>> You may feel that way but the rules are very clear. Any DX you work 
from within the USA can count towards your DXCC credit.   Worked All 
States has a 50 mile radius of your home station, that being said you 
can have more than one WAS account if you want to achieve WAS from other 
areas.   I have a friend who splits living in FL and NY.  He has an 
account for each location for his WAS.


As for contests you need to use the exchange information for the 
transmitter location (remote station), State or Section for domestic 
contests, ITU or CQ zone for those contests.  Serial no. contests really 
do not matter much I guess.




If you're doing it for the fun of it, I feel like borrowing someone else's
is fine.

I'll throw in a related question: what's the right way to identify or
disclose when you're borrowing someone else's station? I've got 15 W into a
random wire in a noisy city QTH, but my girlfriend one state over (but same
FCC callsign digit) has 100 W into a proper 40m dipole in a quiet rural QTH.


It does not matter whose station you are using your call is your call,  
keep in mind if your friend (or anyone) gives you permission then you 
can use their call.   You can even borrow a call to use during a 
contest.  Example in the CQ WPX contest it is all about being a rare 
prefix.   So if you call is K6xxx, K6 is very common, but you have a 
friend whose call is AC6xxx, much more rare,  you can with permission 
use that call during the contest. That being said you can only operate 
within the limits of your license unless they are present and acting as 
a control operator and monitoring your operating.


Rich



Cheers,

Julie

On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 8:14 PM Andy Durbin  wrote:


""Dialing for DX" is not amateur radio!!!"

Do you know how many DX entities I have worked or confirmed?  If you knew
would you care?  Does the fact that that I may have worked some DX using
other stations make less DX available for you to work?

I regard my DX count as a personal achievement.  I choose to work all my
DX from "my" station but it's a very long time since I could claim that I
built everything in my station and even then I didn't fabricate the
bottles, resistors and capacitors.  Most of those came from equipment I had
cannibalized.

I have a good friend who will happily go to a good station in town to work
Bouvet if it is ever activated again.  If he works Bouvet good luck to
him.  I don't want to work Bouvet unless it is from my station.  That's my
choice and it doesn't impact anyone else.

I don't care what station anyone else operates.  I do care if they operate
a remote station and declare that they are somewhere else.  Those lies do
impact me if I'm gullible enough to a attempt a QSO.

Andy, k3wyc
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Re: [Elecraft] What is DX?

2021-06-29 Thread Wes

My personal take on this is in the third paragraph of my QRZ bio.  I'll add that 
I need just two entities to be on the top of the Honor Roll; the "should not be 
an entity" Mt. Athos and Glorioso. I doubt that I will work these in this lifetime.


Wes  N7WS

On 6/29/2021 5:13 PM, Andy Durbin wrote:

""Dialing for DX" is not amateur radio!!!"

Do you know how many DX entities I have worked or confirmed?  If you knew would 
you care?  Does the fact that that I may have worked some DX using other 
stations make less DX available for you to work?

I regard my DX count as a personal achievement.  I choose to work all my DX from 
"my" station but it's a very long time since I could claim that I built 
everything in my station and even then I didn't fabricate the bottles, resistors and 
capacitors.  Most of those came from equipment I had cannibalized.

I have a good friend who will happily go to a good station in town to work 
Bouvet if it is ever activated again.  If he works Bouvet good luck to him.  I 
don't want to work Bouvet unless it is from my station.  That's my choice and 
it doesn't impact anyone else.

I don't care what station anyone else operates.  I do care if they operate a 
remote station and declare that they are somewhere else.  Those lies do impact 
me if I'm gullible enough to a attempt a QSO.

Andy, k3wyc



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Re: [Elecraft] What is DX?

2021-06-29 Thread Julia Tuttle

It depends on what you're doing with it.

If you're using it for individual contests/awards/etc., I feel like setting
up your own station is required for it to "count".

If you're doing it for the fun of it, I feel like borrowing someone else's
is fine.

I'll throw in a related question: what's the right way to identify or
disclose when you're borrowing someone else's station? I've got 15 W into a
random wire in a noisy city QTH, but my girlfriend one state over (but same
FCC callsign digit) has 100 W into a proper 40m dipole in a quiet rural QTH.

Cheers,

Julie

On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 8:14 PM Andy Durbin  wrote:

> ""Dialing for DX" is not amateur radio!!!"
>
> Do you know how many DX entities I have worked or confirmed?  If you knew
> would you care?  Does the fact that that I may have worked some DX using
> other stations make less DX available for you to work?
>
> I regard my DX count as a personal achievement.  I choose to work all my
> DX from "my" station but it's a very long time since I could claim that I
> built everything in my station and even then I didn't fabricate the
> bottles, resistors and capacitors.  Most of those came from equipment I had
> cannibalized.
>
> I have a good friend who will happily go to a good station in town to work
> Bouvet if it is ever activated again.  If he works Bouvet good luck to
> him.  I don't want to work Bouvet unless it is from my station.  That's my
> choice and it doesn't impact anyone else.
>
> I don't care what station anyone else operates.  I do care if they operate
> a remote station and declare that they are somewhere else.  Those lies do
> impact me if I'm gullible enough to a attempt a QSO.
>
> Andy, k3wyc
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Re: [Elecraft] What is DX?

2021-06-29 Thread Dave

Hi Andy

I agree. My station may never make Honor Roll but I can say all my contacts are 
from my station. I too take it as a personal goal and not a competition. I do 
not need to buy time at a Super Station. 

Don’t get me wrong, the pay to play stations are great for those that otherwise 
cannot get on the air, as long as they designate one station as their “home” 
station. But alas the rules do not make that distinction. 

My friend in Hawaii and I (NJ) share each other’s stations. But I maintain a 
KH6/wo2x LoTW account for contacts made from his station. 

Each person can have differences of opinion on this which is OK. I’ll continue 
as a personal achievement. 

Dave wo2x
President NJDXA 

Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. 

> On Jun 29, 2021, at 8:15 PM, Andy Durbin  wrote:
> 
> ""Dialing for DX" is not amateur radio!!!"
> 
> Do you know how many DX entities I have worked or confirmed?  If you knew 
> would you care?  Does the fact that that I may have worked some DX using 
> other stations make less DX available for you to work?
> 
> I regard my DX count as a personal achievement.  I choose to work all my DX 
> from "my" station but it's a very long time since I could claim that I built 
> everything in my station and even then I didn't fabricate the bottles, 
> resistors and capacitors.  Most of those came from equipment I had 
> cannibalized.
> 
> I have a good friend who will happily go to a good station in town to work 
> Bouvet if it is ever activated again.  If he works Bouvet good luck to him.  
> I don't want to work Bouvet unless it is from my station.  That's my choice 
> and it doesn't impact anyone else.
> 
> I don't care what station anyone else operates.  I do care if they operate a 
> remote station and declare that they are somewhere else.  Those lies do 
> impact me if I'm gullible enough to a attempt a QSO.
> 
> Andy, k3wyc
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[Elecraft] What is DX?

2021-06-29 Thread Andy Durbin

""Dialing for DX" is not amateur radio!!!"

Do you know how many DX entities I have worked or confirmed?  If you knew would 
you care?  Does the fact that that I may have worked some DX using other 
stations make less DX available for you to work?

I regard my DX count as a personal achievement.  I choose to work all my DX 
from "my" station but it's a very long time since I could claim that I built 
everything in my station and even then I didn't fabricate the bottles, 
resistors and capacitors.  Most of those came from equipment I had cannibalized.

I have a good friend who will happily go to a good station in town to work 
Bouvet if it is ever activated again.  If he works Bouvet good luck to him.  I 
don't want to work Bouvet unless it is from my station.  That's my choice and 
it doesn't impact anyone else.

I don't care what station anyone else operates.  I do care if they operate a 
remote station and declare that they are somewhere else.  Those lies do impact 
me if I'm gullible enough to a attempt a QSO.

Andy, k3wyc
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Re: [Elecraft] What kind of hook-up wire does Elecraft use?

2021-05-02 Thread MIKE ZANE

I buy all my hook up wire from All Electronics in the L.A. area. But I don't do 
super special type of electronics, just general stuff. I wind almost all my 
antenna toroids with their wire. Mike n6zw
> On 05/02/2021 2:06 PM Mark Goldberg  wrote:
> 
>  
> If you want the best, super easy to solder and strip, there is M16878/4.
> M16878/5 or M16878/6 Silver plated stranded Copper wire with Teflon
> insulation. It is very expensive and I can't see where to buy small
> quantities except on eBay where it may be sketchy. /4 is probably most
> typical 600V insulated. I got some off spool ends and you may find it at
> Hamfests if someone is doing surplus stuff. It does not dry out and lose
> plasticisers like PVC, so it is good even if it is old.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Mark
> W7MLG
> 
> 
> On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 10:19 AM David Haines  wrote:
> 
> > My son has been having trouble with the quality of hook-up wire he's
> > able to buy for his projects.  There's clearly a difference in vendors.
> >
> > I'm sure Elecraft uses the best.  Any help here?
> >
> > david
> > KC1DNY
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Re: [Elecraft] What kind of hook-up wire does Elecraft use?

2021-05-02 Thread Lou Mecseri


Thank you, real good information. We need more info such as this.

73, Lou KE1F

On 5/2/2021 21:33, Chris Waldrup wrote:

Hi,

I use the  M22759 series for everything I build both at my home shop and lab at 
work, a large defense related company.
It's inexpensive and Teflon insulation.
I bought 2000 ft of #18 last week for work and it's right at 12 cents a foot. 
It doesn't melt when you solder to it and is easy to work with.
The 22 AWG  I normally buy is 3 cents a foot.
We buy from Wiremasters south of Nashville in Columbia TN.
$50 minimum order but no minimum on wire lengths. So you could buy as many feet 
of each gauge and color as you would like.
Normally for home use I buy a thousand feet of a size/color at a time.
When I started my work was buying the wire from Digi-Key and it was $60 for 100 
ft spool. They no longer do and didn't know about other supplier.
I can connect anyone interested with the rep there I use.

Chris
KD4PBJ
Monteagle TN



On May 2, 2021, at 16:09, Mark Goldberg  wrote:

If you want the best, super easy to solder and strip, there is M16878/4.
M16878/5 or M16878/6 Silver plated stranded Copper wire with Teflon
insulation. It is very expensive and I can't see where to buy small
quantities except on eBay where it may be sketchy. /4 is probably most
typical 600V insulated. I got some off spool ends and you may find it at
Hamfests if someone is doing surplus stuff. It does not dry out and lose
plasticisers like PVC, so it is good even if it is old.

73,

Mark
W7MLG



On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 10:19 AM David Haines  wrote:

My son has been having trouble with the quality of hook-up wire he's
able to buy for his projects.  There's clearly a difference in vendors.

I'm sure Elecraft uses the best.  Any help here?

david
KC1DNY
in the woods of Maine
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Re: [Elecraft] What kind of hook-up wire does Elecraft use?

2021-05-02 Thread Chris Waldrup

Hi,

I use the  M22759 series for everything I build both at my home shop and lab at 
work, a large defense related company. 
It's inexpensive and Teflon insulation. 
I bought 2000 ft of #18 last week for work and it's right at 12 cents a foot. 
It doesn't melt when you solder to it and is easy to work with.  
The 22 AWG  I normally buy is 3 cents a foot. 
We buy from Wiremasters south of Nashville in Columbia TN. 
$50 minimum order but no minimum on wire lengths. So you could buy as many feet 
of each gauge and color as you would like. 
Normally for home use I buy a thousand feet of a size/color at a time. 
When I started my work was buying the wire from Digi-Key and it was $60 for 100 
ft spool. They no longer do and didn't know about other supplier. 
I can connect anyone interested with the rep there I use. 

Chris
KD4PBJ
Monteagle TN

> On May 2, 2021, at 16:09, Mark Goldberg  wrote:
> 
> If you want the best, super easy to solder and strip, there is M16878/4.
> M16878/5 or M16878/6 Silver plated stranded Copper wire with Teflon
> insulation. It is very expensive and I can't see where to buy small
> quantities except on eBay where it may be sketchy. /4 is probably most
> typical 600V insulated. I got some off spool ends and you may find it at
> Hamfests if someone is doing surplus stuff. It does not dry out and lose
> plasticisers like PVC, so it is good even if it is old.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Mark
> W7MLG
> 
> 
>> On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 10:19 AM David Haines  wrote:
>> 
>> My son has been having trouble with the quality of hook-up wire he's
>> able to buy for his projects.  There's clearly a difference in vendors.
>> 
>> I'm sure Elecraft uses the best.  Any help here?
>> 
>> david
>> KC1DNY
>> in the woods of Maine
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Re: [Elecraft] What kind of hook-up wire does Elecraft use?

2021-05-02 Thread Mark Goldberg

If you want the best, super easy to solder and strip, there is M16878/4.
M16878/5 or M16878/6 Silver plated stranded Copper wire with Teflon
insulation. It is very expensive and I can't see where to buy small
quantities except on eBay where it may be sketchy. /4 is probably most
typical 600V insulated. I got some off spool ends and you may find it at
Hamfests if someone is doing surplus stuff. It does not dry out and lose
plasticisers like PVC, so it is good even if it is old.

73,

Mark
W7MLG

On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 10:19 AM David Haines  wrote:

> My son has been having trouble with the quality of hook-up wire he's
> able to buy for his projects.  There's clearly a difference in vendors.
>
> I'm sure Elecraft uses the best.  Any help here?
>
> david
> KC1DNY
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[Elecraft] What kind of hook-up wire does Elecraft use?

2021-05-02 Thread David Haines

My son has been having trouble with the quality of hook-up wire he's 
able to buy for his projects.  There's clearly a difference in vendors.


I'm sure Elecraft uses the best.  Any help here?

david
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[Elecraft] What temp. to turn off KPA1500

2020-12-01 Thread Michael Stone

I wonder if it is advisable to allow the amplifier to cool before turning it 
off.  Normally I wait until the fan stops, at 39 degrees C.   Am I being too 
cautious?  I leave the power supply turned on most of the time, since I use the 
amplifier nearly every day.
Thanks
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Re: [Elecraft] what tripod to use?

2020-08-01 Thread Phil Kane

On 8/1/2020 12:24 PM, CUTTER DAVID via Elecraft wrote:
> Still quite popular over here, though not as expensive:
>   https://www.wilko.com/en-uk/wilko-rotary-airer-40m/p/0432698

Will it work for bands other than 40m  :)

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
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Re: [Elecraft] what tripod to use?

2020-08-01 Thread CUTTER DAVID via Elecraft

Here's your equivalent at Home Depot:
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Honey-Can-Do-Inground-Umbrella-Shaped-Dryer-DRY-05262/300532316

Still quite popular over here, though not as expensive:
  https://www.wilko.com/en-uk/wilko-rotary-airer-40m/p/0432698

David G3UNA
 
> On 01 August 2020 at 19:25 Fred Jensen  wrote:
> 
> 
> I think he's talking about the inverted umbrella-like thingys popular in 
> the 40's and 50's that resemble a Hexbeam or HF Moxon of today.  Been a 
> long time since I've seen one
> 
> 73,
> 
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
> 
> On 7/31/2020 4:27 PM, Phil Kane wrote:
> > On 7/31/2020 2:26 AM, CUTTER DAVID via Elecraft wrote:
> >
> >> A cheap and exceedingly sturdy tripod is a re-cycled/re-purposed rotary 
> >> washing line.
> > With all due respect, I had to re-read that several times to picture
> > that device.  Are you referring to the inverted pyramid upon which one
> > hangs washing out to dry?  As a suburban dweller who has used an
> > electric clothes dryer all of my adult life I haven't seen one of them
> > for many decades.  :)
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] what tripod to use?

2020-08-01 Thread Fred Jensen

I think he's talking about the inverted umbrella-like thingys popular in 
the 40's and 50's that resemble a Hexbeam or HF Moxon of today.  Been a 
long time since I've seen one


73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 7/31/2020 4:27 PM, Phil Kane wrote:

On 7/31/2020 2:26 AM, CUTTER DAVID via Elecraft wrote:


A cheap and exceedingly sturdy tripod is a re-cycled/re-purposed rotary washing 
line.

With all due respect, I had to re-read that several times to picture
that device.  Are you referring to the inverted pyramid upon which one
hangs washing out to dry?  As a suburban dweller who has used an
electric clothes dryer all of my adult life I haven't seen one of them
for many decades.  :)

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402




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Re: [Elecraft] what tripod to use?

2020-07-31 Thread Jay Rutherford

If that's what the poster was describing, I see one each time I ride a trail in 
Glen Burnie, MD. I jokingly refer to it as a ham radio antenna. Probably NVIS.
73
Jay K3BH

On Fri, Jul 31, 2020, at 19:27, Phil Kane wrote:
> On 7/31/2020 2:26 AM, CUTTER DAVID via Elecraft wrote:
> 
> > A cheap and exceedingly sturdy tripod is a re-cycled/re-purposed rotary 
> > washing line.  
> 
> With all due respect, I had to re-read that several times to picture
> that device.  Are you referring to the inverted pyramid upon which one
> hangs washing out to dry?  As a suburban dweller who has used an
> electric clothes dryer all of my adult life I haven't seen one of them
> for many decades.  :)
> 
> 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
> Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] what tripod to use?

2020-07-31 Thread Phil Kane

On 7/31/2020 2:26 AM, CUTTER DAVID via Elecraft wrote:

> A cheap and exceedingly sturdy tripod is a re-cycled/re-purposed rotary 
> washing line.  

With all due respect, I had to re-read that several times to picture
that device.  Are you referring to the inverted pyramid upon which one
hangs washing out to dry?  As a suburban dweller who has used an
electric clothes dryer all of my adult life I haven't seen one of them
for many decades.  :)

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

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Re: [Elecraft] what tripod to use?

2020-07-31 Thread CUTTER DAVID via Elecraft

A cheap and exceedingly sturdy tripod is a re-cycled/re-purposed rotary washing 
line.  
Remove the line for other things, eg guys and turn it upside down.  
Peg the legs if it's windy.  
Make/buy a clamp for your antenna pole.  

I used this with a screwdriver antenna and a few radials on the ground; also 
with a fibreglass pole just taped on.  They are quite heavy, so, not 
walking-portable but fits the boot/trunk of the car for a drive to your 
favourite spot.  The legs are very long, so, cut to suit what you are doing if 
need be.  

David G3UNA

> They handle a heavy load and are very stable, but do not have locking 
> spreaders.  And probably way too expensive for the antennas in question. 
> I've used the Buddipole tripod for both the Buddipole and the MP-1 antennas.
> 73, Terry, N4TLF
> 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Walter Underwood
> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 10:46 PM
> To: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] what tripod to use?
> 
> Not quite sure about “any” photo tripod. I once borrowed a Gitzo Series 5 
> that we dubbed the “tree-pod”. This one extends to nine feet. Ain’t cheap, 
> of course. :-)
> 
> https://www.gitzo.com/us-en/tripod-systematic-series-5-giant-6-sections-gt5563gsus/
>  
> <https://www.gitzo.com/us-en/tripod-systematic-series-5-giant-6-sections-gt5563gsus/>
> 
> wunder
> K6WRU
> Walter Underwood
> CM87wj
> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
> 
> > On Jul 30, 2020, at 7:15 PM, brianchapn...@rogers.com wrote:
> >
> > The Buddipole Tripod with mast is quite substantial and will get your 
> > antenna up higher than any photographic tripod. In windy situations you 
> > will want to guy it or at least put a weight at the base.
> >
> > I've done this a few times with the AX1.
> >
> > For a quick mount the Buddipole bracket with the adapter is a perfect fit 
> > for the AX1 and may work for your Comet.
> >
> > Brian VE3GMZ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent via BlackBerry Hub+ Inbox for Android
> >
> >
> >   Original Message
> >
> >
> > From: fra...@pwpconsult.com
> > Sent: July 30, 2020 8:37 p.m.
> > To: wd8oep2...@sbcglobal.net
> > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] what tripod to use?
> >
> >
> > Welcome to the list Harry
> >
> > Given that your antenna isn't an Elecraft product, you are kind
> > of on your own. Does Comet have a tripod adapter? Elecraft has a
> > tripod adapter for its portable antenna, the AX1.
> > <https://elecraft.com/products/axt1_axt1-tripod-adapter> Will
> > that adapter work for your use?
> >
> > If that adapter won't work, you can build an adapter. The
> > standard tripod thread is 1/4" x 20. You should be able to get
> > some nuts of that size and glue them to the necessary bracket to
> > attach the adapter to your antenna. Or you can get a drill and
> > tap and tap it yourself. There are many other choices and ways
> > to proceed.
> >
> > As to the tripod, a lot depends on what you intend to do. If you
> > are doing SOTA activations, you probably want a very light
> > weight tripod for backpacking. If you can stand something
> > heavier, there are photographic tripods in a bewildering array
> > of models.
> >
> > I will also note that photographic light stands also have 1/4" x
> > 20 threads and can be used as well. They aren't as useful on
> > uneven ground as a tripod, but they go up higher.
> >
> > These things are available at a wide range of prices. Amazon and
> > eBay are likely to have cheap choices.
> >
> > 73 Bill AE6JV
> >
> > On 7/30/20 at 6:04 PM, wd8oep2...@sbcglobal.net (Harry Brown) wrote:
> >
> >> I'm new here.
> >>
> >> I have a kx3, and I have the Comet hfj350M telescopic antenna, which 
> >> works from 80 down to 6 meters.
> >>
> >> I need to put it on a tripod, and then I can get the tripod adapter from 
> >> Elecraft.
> >>
> >> Can someone, please tell me which tripod to get?
> >>
> >> If possible, I'd like it to be heavy enough to withstand high
> >> winds, because we have those kind of winds on the east coast of Michigan.
> > ---
> > Bill Frantz| When an old person dies, a   | Periwinkle
> > (408)348-7900  | library burns. - Joe McGawon | 150
> > Rivermead Rd #235
> > www.pwpconsult.com | Irish Ethnographer   |
> > Peterborough, NH 03458
> >
> > _

Re: [Elecraft] what tripod to use?

2020-07-30 Thread wb4jfi

We used Gitzo tripods with Sachtler heads for broadcast news/ENG cameras. 
They handle a heavy load and are very stable, but do not have locking 
spreaders.  And probably way too expensive for the antennas in question. 
I've used the Buddipole tripod for both the Buddipole and the MP-1 antennas.

73, Terry, N4TLF


-Original Message- 
From: Walter Underwood

Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 10:46 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] what tripod to use?

Not quite sure about “any” photo tripod. I once borrowed a Gitzo Series 5 
that we dubbed the “tree-pod”. This one extends to nine feet. Ain’t cheap, 
of course. :-)


https://www.gitzo.com/us-en/tripod-systematic-series-5-giant-6-sections-gt5563gsus/ 
<https://www.gitzo.com/us-en/tripod-systematic-series-5-giant-6-sections-gt5563gsus/>


wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)


On Jul 30, 2020, at 7:15 PM, brianchapn...@rogers.com wrote:

The Buddipole Tripod with mast is quite substantial and will get your 
antenna up higher than any photographic tripod. In windy situations you 
will want to guy it or at least put a weight at the base.


I've done this a few times with the AX1.

For a quick mount the Buddipole bracket with the adapter is a perfect fit 
for the AX1 and may work for your Comet.


Brian VE3GMZ




Sent via BlackBerry Hub+ Inbox for Android


  Original Message


From: fra...@pwpconsult.com
Sent: July 30, 2020 8:37 p.m.
To: wd8oep2...@sbcglobal.net
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] what tripod to use?


Welcome to the list Harry

Given that your antenna isn't an Elecraft product, you are kind
of on your own. Does Comet have a tripod adapter? Elecraft has a
tripod adapter for its portable antenna, the AX1.
<https://elecraft.com/products/axt1_axt1-tripod-adapter> Will
that adapter work for your use?

If that adapter won't work, you can build an adapter. The
standard tripod thread is 1/4" x 20. You should be able to get
some nuts of that size and glue them to the necessary bracket to
attach the adapter to your antenna. Or you can get a drill and
tap and tap it yourself. There are many other choices and ways
to proceed.

As to the tripod, a lot depends on what you intend to do. If you
are doing SOTA activations, you probably want a very light
weight tripod for backpacking. If you can stand something
heavier, there are photographic tripods in a bewildering array
of models.

I will also note that photographic light stands also have 1/4" x
20 threads and can be used as well. They aren't as useful on
uneven ground as a tripod, but they go up higher.

These things are available at a wide range of prices. Amazon and
eBay are likely to have cheap choices.

73 Bill AE6JV

On 7/30/20 at 6:04 PM, wd8oep2...@sbcglobal.net (Harry Brown) wrote:


I'm new here.

I have a kx3, and I have the Comet hfj350M telescopic antenna, which 
works from 80 down to 6 meters.


I need to put it on a tripod, and then I can get the tripod adapter from 
Elecraft.


Can someone, please tell me which tripod to get?

If possible, I'd like it to be heavy enough to withstand high
winds, because we have those kind of winds on the east coast of Michigan.

---
Bill Frantz| When an old person dies, a   | Periwinkle
(408)348-7900  | library burns. - Joe McGawon | 150
Rivermead Rd #235
www.pwpconsult.com | Irish Ethnographer   |
Peterborough, NH 03458

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Re: [Elecraft] what tripod to use?

2020-07-30 Thread Walter Underwood

Not quite sure about “any” photo tripod. I once borrowed a Gitzo Series 5 that 
we dubbed the “tree-pod”. This one extends to nine feet. Ain’t cheap, of 
course. :-)

https://www.gitzo.com/us-en/tripod-systematic-series-5-giant-6-sections-gt5563gsus/
 
<https://www.gitzo.com/us-en/tripod-systematic-series-5-giant-6-sections-gt5563gsus/>

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

> On Jul 30, 2020, at 7:15 PM, brianchapn...@rogers.com wrote:
> 
> The Buddipole Tripod with mast is quite substantial and will get your antenna 
> up higher than any photographic tripod. In windy situations you will want to 
> guy it or at least put a weight at the base.
> 
> I've done this a few times with the AX1.
> 
> For a quick mount the Buddipole bracket with the adapter is a perfect fit for 
> the AX1 and may work for your Comet.
> 
> Brian VE3GMZ 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent via BlackBerry Hub+ Inbox for Android
> 
> 
>   Original Message  
> 
> 
> From: fra...@pwpconsult.com
> Sent: July 30, 2020 8:37 p.m.
> To: wd8oep2...@sbcglobal.net
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] what tripod to use?
> 
> 
> Welcome to the list Harry
> 
> Given that your antenna isn't an Elecraft product, you are kind
> of on your own. Does Comet have a tripod adapter? Elecraft has a
> tripod adapter for its portable antenna, the AX1.
> <https://elecraft.com/products/axt1_axt1-tripod-adapter> Will
> that adapter work for your use?
> 
> If that adapter won't work, you can build an adapter. The
> standard tripod thread is 1/4" x 20. You should be able to get
> some nuts of that size and glue them to the necessary bracket to
> attach the adapter to your antenna. Or you can get a drill and
> tap and tap it yourself. There are many other choices and ways
> to proceed.
> 
> As to the tripod, a lot depends on what you intend to do. If you
> are doing SOTA activations, you probably want a very light
> weight tripod for backpacking. If you can stand something
> heavier, there are photographic tripods in a bewildering array
> of models.
> 
> I will also note that photographic light stands also have 1/4" x
> 20 threads and can be used as well. They aren't as useful on
> uneven ground as a tripod, but they go up higher.
> 
> These things are available at a wide range of prices. Amazon and
> eBay are likely to have cheap choices.
> 
> 73 Bill AE6JV
> 
> On 7/30/20 at 6:04 PM, wd8oep2...@sbcglobal.net (Harry Brown) wrote:
> 
>> I'm new here.
>> 
>> I have a kx3, and I have the Comet hfj350M telescopic antenna, which works 
>> from 80 down to 6 meters.
>> 
>> I need to put it on a tripod, and then I can get the tripod adapter from 
>> Elecraft.
>> 
>> Can someone, please tell me which tripod to get?
>> 
>> If possible, I'd like it to be heavy enough to withstand high
>> winds, because we have those kind of winds on the east coast of Michigan.
> ---
> Bill Frantz| When an old person dies, a   | Periwinkle
> (408)348-7900  | library burns. - Joe McGawon | 150
> Rivermead Rd #235
> www.pwpconsult.com | Irish Ethnographer   |
> Peterborough, NH 03458
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] what tripod to use?

2020-07-30 Thread brianchapnick

The Buddipole Tripod with mast is quite substantial and will get your antenna 
up higher than any photographic tripod. In windy situations you will want to 
guy it or at least put a weight at the base.

I've done this a few times with the AX1.

For a quick mount the Buddipole bracket with the adapter is a perfect fit for 
the AX1 and may work for your Comet.

Brian VE3GMZ 

Sent via BlackBerry Hub+ Inbox for Android

  Original Message  

From: fra...@pwpconsult.com
Sent: July 30, 2020 8:37 p.m.
To: wd8oep2...@sbcglobal.net
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] what tripod to use?

Welcome to the list Harry

Given that your antenna isn't an Elecraft product, you are kind
of on your own. Does Comet have a tripod adapter? Elecraft has a
tripod adapter for its portable antenna, the AX1.
<https://elecraft.com/products/axt1_axt1-tripod-adapter> Will
that adapter work for your use?

If that adapter won't work, you can build an adapter. The
standard tripod thread is 1/4" x 20. You should be able to get
some nuts of that size and glue them to the necessary bracket to
attach the adapter to your antenna. Or you can get a drill and
tap and tap it yourself. There are many other choices and ways
to proceed.

As to the tripod, a lot depends on what you intend to do. If you
are doing SOTA activations, you probably want a very light
weight tripod for backpacking. If you can stand something
heavier, there are photographic tripods in a bewildering array
of models.

I will also note that photographic light stands also have 1/4" x
20 threads and can be used as well. They aren't as useful on
uneven ground as a tripod, but they go up higher.

These things are available at a wide range of prices. Amazon and
eBay are likely to have cheap choices.

73 Bill AE6JV

On 7/30/20 at 6:04 PM, wd8oep2...@sbcglobal.net (Harry Brown) wrote:

>I'm new here.
>
>I have a kx3, and I have the Comet hfj350M telescopic antenna, which works 
>from 80 down to 6 meters.
>
>I need to put it on a tripod, and then I can get the tripod adapter from 
>Elecraft.
>
>Can someone, please tell me which tripod to get?
>
>If possible, I'd like it to be heavy enough to withstand high
>winds, because we have those kind of winds on the east coast of Michigan.
---
Bill Frantz    | When an old person dies, a   | Periwinkle
(408)348-7900  | library burns. - Joe McGawon | 150
Rivermead Rd #235
www.pwpconsult.com | Irish Ethnographer   |
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Re: [Elecraft] what tripod to use?

2020-07-30 Thread Bill Frantz


Welcome to the list Harry

Given that your antenna isn't an Elecraft product, you are kind 
of on your own. Does Comet have a tripod adapter? Elecraft has a 
tripod adapter for its portable antenna, the AX1. 
 Will 
that adapter work for your use?


If that adapter won't work, you can build an adapter. The 
standard tripod thread is 1/4" x 20. You should be able to get 
some nuts of that size and glue them to the necessary bracket to 
attach the adapter to your antenna. Or you can get a drill and 
tap and tap it yourself. There are many other choices and ways 
to proceed.


As to the tripod, a lot depends on what you intend to do. If you 
are doing SOTA activations, you probably want a very light 
weight tripod for backpacking. If you can stand something 
heavier, there are photographic tripods in a bewildering array 
of models.


I will also note that photographic light stands also have 1/4" x 
20 threads and can be used as well. They aren't as useful on 
uneven ground as a tripod, but they go up higher.


These things are available at a wide range of prices. Amazon and 
eBay are likely to have cheap choices.


73 Bill AE6JV

On 7/30/20 at 6:04 PM, wd8oep2...@sbcglobal.net (Harry Brown) wrote:


I'm new here.

I have a kx3, and I have the Comet hfj350M telescopic antenna, which works from 
80 down to 6 meters.

I need to put it on a tripod, and then I can get the tripod adapter from 
Elecraft.

Can someone, please tell me which tripod to get?

If possible, I'd like it to be heavy enough to withstand high 
winds, because we have those kind of winds on the east coast of Michigan.

---
Bill Frantz| When an old person dies, a   | Periwinkle
(408)348-7900  | library burns. - Joe McGawon | 150 
Rivermead Rd #235
www.pwpconsult.com | Irish Ethnographer   | 
Peterborough, NH 03458


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[Elecraft] what tripod to use?

2020-07-30 Thread Harry Brown


Hi all,

I'm new here.

I have a kx3, and I have the Comet hfj350M telescopic antenna, which 
works from 80 down to 6 meters.


I need to put it on a tripod, and then I can get the tripod adapter from 
Elecraft.


Can someone, please tell me which tripod to get?

If possible, I'd like it to be heavy enough to withstand high winds, 
because we have those kind of winds on the east coast of Michigan.


73,

Harry, AC8S.


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Re: [Elecraft] What softwares are available for Point-and-Click SDR/K3 control?

2020-02-17 Thread bw_dw

I want to thank all of the good people in the group who took the time to 
respond to my query.
I now have HDSDR, an old RFSPACE-IQ, and the K3 synced together.

Love the toys!  :-]
N1BBR
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[Elecraft] What softwares are available for...

2020-02-17 Thread PATRICK HICKS

I had great luck with my K3 running into a LP-Pan 2 and WIN4K3 program on the 
shack PC.

PJH, N7PH
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Re: [Elecraft] What softwares are available for Point-and-Click SDR/K3 control?

2020-02-17 Thread N4ZR

N1MM Logger has a built in Spectrum Display that controls a number of 
SDRs, connected either to your IF or to the RX Ant In/Out loop with a 
splitter, as well as your K3.  Added feature is that it will display 
spots as they come in, associated with the peak on the display.  See 
https://n1mmwp.hamdocs.com/manual-windows/spectrum-display-window/


73, Pete N4ZR
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On 2/17/2020 8:17 AM, bw...@fastmail.fm wrote:

Hi all,
I'm wondering what software solutions are available to provide an SDR band 
display, which incorporates Point-and-Click functionality that controls both 
the SDR and the K3 frequency?

In other words, identifying a signal on an SDR display and the action of 
clicking on that signal moves both the SDR and the K3 frequency to it.

I'm hoping there is one single software solution that incorporates both 
features requiring only one single USB interconnect into the PC.

Thanks
Duane
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Re: [Elecraft] What softwares are available for Point-and-Click SDR/K3 control?

2020-02-17 Thread Richard Thorne


Duane,

I've been using Win4k3suite along with a SDRplay RSP1A.  It works well.

Rich - N5ZC

On 2/17/2020 7:17 AM, bw...@fastmail.fm wrote:

Hi all,
I'm wondering what software solutions are available to provide an SDR band 
display, which incorporates Point-and-Click functionality that controls both 
the SDR and the K3 frequency?

In other words, identifying a signal on an SDR display and the action of 
clicking on that signal moves both the SDR and the K3 frequency to it.

I'm hoping there is one single software solution that incorporates both 
features requiring only one single USB interconnect into the PC.

Thanks
Duane
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Re: [Elecraft] What softwares are available for Point-and-Click SDR/K3control?

2020-02-17 Thread Wes

My solution might be unobtainium these days, but I use an SDR-IQ from RF Space 
and SpectraVue software. The SDR-IQ is no longer produced but they show up used 
from time to time. (I bought my third one a month ago)


Wes N7WS

On 2/17/2020 6:17 AM, bw...@fastmail.fm wrote:

Hi all,
I'm wondering what software solutions are available to provide an SDR band 
display, which incorporates Point-and-Click functionality that controls both 
the SDR and the K3 frequency?

In other words, identifying a signal on an SDR display and the action of 
clicking on that signal moves both the SDR and the K3 frequency to it.

I'm hoping there is one single software solution that incorporates both 
features requiring only one single USB interconnect into the PC.

Thanks
Duane


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Re: [Elecraft] What softwares are available for Point-and-Click SDR/K3 control?

2020-02-17 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX

I use HDSDR which includes OmniRig to control my RSP-1A and my K3S.  It 
does provide point and click.  And best of all, it's FREE!


Here is a link to the correct drivers and such. 
https://www.sdrplay.com/downloads/



   HDSDR – V2.76A
    
(13TH
   JUL 2018)

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 2/17/2020 7:17 AM, bw...@fastmail.fm wrote:

Hi all,
I'm wondering what software solutions are available to provide an SDR band 
display, which incorporates Point-and-Click functionality that controls both 
the SDR and the K3 frequency?

In other words, identifying a signal on an SDR display and the action of 
clicking on that signal moves both the SDR and the K3 frequency to it.

I'm hoping there is one single software solution that incorporates both 
features requiring only one single USB interconnect into the PC.

Thanks
Duane
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[Elecraft] What softwares are available for Point-and-Click SDR/K3 control?

2020-02-17 Thread bw_dw

Hi all,
I'm wondering what software solutions are available to provide an SDR band 
display, which incorporates Point-and-Click functionality that controls both 
the SDR and the K3 frequency?

In other words, identifying a signal on an SDR display and the action of 
clicking on that signal moves both the SDR and the K3 frequency to it.

I'm hoping there is one single software solution that incorporates both 
features requiring only one single USB interconnect into the PC.

Thanks
Duane
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[Elecraft] What is really happening in radio?

2019-05-06 Thread William Levy

So you want a new radio?
So do a survey.
Remotehamradio.com is running a network of radio stations for their users.
Flex is growing their remote system but they still haven't got a turn the
antenna rotator macro built in. You can band switch between your yagis you
just can't turn them.
Pointing on the dx spot list should in fact turn the antenna and tune the
frequency on your radio, your amp following of course.

So on the one hand we want a radio with a tuning knob, at least some of us
do.
We also want our radio talking to a screen, mouse, whatever to do the click
change operate kind of stuff.

So the new deal now that Elecraft has built a big amp for us is to go after
all the add on software stuff that drives you guys nuts trying to get it to
work with com ports etc.

Elecraft needs code writers since the new box will be a radio but the magic
will be in the remote capabilities and the tuning from dx spots and cw
reader, spotter, stuff. More and more code i hear on dxpeditions is machine
generated. Macro stuff. Allows the op to log you while the radio going QRZ
up 10. He still has to enter your call but that's it. Entering your call
logs you and tells you your 5NN dah id dah.

So the next radio from Elecraft K4-9 will be the interface that does all
the magic and the radio will still be there to tune around when you are in
front of it. I am a remote guy. I live in a city and my station is 2000
miles away. I use a website to talk to it. What do I want next. I want a
panadaptor on the website so I can SEE who is talking to ATNO so I can
zerobeat that guy. No more tuning. Click.

That is the future and it is here now and every new box will have an app
that does everything and is always upgradeable. It can be on a phone or a
table or laptop.

The leaders are Elecraft and Flex. Nobody else comes close. Remote Rig is
passé. It has to be in the radio now. And available to whomever you
authorize. Every serious Contest station has remote capability now.

Warm regards, Bill N2WL
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[Elecraft] What antenna does the transverter interface use when the subrx Aux port is used for your Rx antenna?

2019-02-23 Thread TJ Campie

I have an sdr play hooked up to the xvrt out and I'm curious what the
source of the signals are when deceiving in diversity mode.
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Re: [Elecraft] WHAT IS AN UPDATED K3 CALLED.

2019-01-14 Thread Nr4c

How about a “K3”? 

That’s what it is. My K3 was a K3 when I bought it with 10 watts and no ATU.   
It was still a K3 when I had the KDVR, the sub-receiver and 5 filters plus the 
BCB mod and a P3. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Jan 14, 2019, at 6:01 PM, JOHN POWELL  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>How about K3X (XTRA) ?.
> 
>Just had my K3, SN 1621, updated at Watsonville HQ with 2 Synths
> (have Sub Rx)., plus installation of  following upgrades -DSP Upgrade
> (K3DSPUPGD-F Mod.), Rx Ant, IF Out, Preamp, Transverter Interface
> (KXV3B Mod) ,in addition a full.service. Turnaround time was just over
> 4 weeks. Haven't had the opportunity of trying out the rig due to
> Cardiac problems a few days after return the K3. I was very pleased
> with the communications from the Technical support team at Elecraft
> thru the whole process.  All occurred in mid -late December and was
> home for Xmas.
> 
>From the foregoing it maybe apparent for the rationale I
> adopted relating to  the K3X Reference.
> 
>73
> 
>John Powell. ZL1BHQ
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[Elecraft] WHAT IS AN UPDATED K3 CALLED.

2019-01-14 Thread JOHN POWELL



How about K3X (XTRA) ?.

Just had my K3, SN 1621, updated at Watsonville HQ with 2 Synths
(have Sub Rx)., plus installation of  following upgrades -DSP Upgrade
(K3DSPUPGD-F Mod.), Rx Ant, IF Out, Preamp, Transverter Interface
(KXV3B Mod) ,in addition a full.service. Turnaround time was just over
4 weeks. Haven't had the opportunity of trying out the rig due to
Cardiac problems a few days after return the K3. I was very pleased
with the communications from the Technical support team at Elecraft
thru the whole process.  All occurred in mid -late December and was
home for Xmas.

From the foregoing it maybe apparent for the rationale I
adopted relating to  the K3X Reference.

73

John Powell. ZL1BHQ


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Re: [Elecraft] What is the TX DLY of a KX3?

2018-10-18 Thread Bob Wilson, N6TV

Never mind.  I must have been looking at an old manual.  The KX3 MENU:TX
DLY setting is clearly documented on Page 41 of the KX3 Owner's Manual Rev.
C5

.

73,
Bob, N6TV

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 2:26 AM Bob Wilson, N6TV  wrote:

> What is the fixed delay between KEY OUT going low and RF coming out of a
> KX3?  The K3 has a CONFIG:TX DLY setting, but I find no equivalent in the
> KX3 manuals.  The concern would be RF hot switching if the external
> amplifier relay is too slow.
>
> From the KX3 manual:
>
> "The keyline output goes low during transmit, and can be used for
> transmit/receive switching of linear amplifiers and transverters."  The TX
> Delay does not appear to be documented.
>
> (KEY OUT on a KX3 is the RING contact of the 2.5 mm stereo connector
> labeled ACC2).
>
> 73,
> Bob, N6TV
>
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[Elecraft] What is the TX DLY of a KX3?

2018-10-17 Thread Bob Wilson, N6TV

What is the fixed delay between KEY OUT going low and RF coming out of a
KX3?  The K3 has a CONFIG:TX DLY setting, but I find no equivalent in the
KX3 manuals.  The concern would be RF hot switching if the external
amplifier relay is too slow.

>From the KX3 manual:

"The keyline output goes low during transmit, and can be used for
transmit/receive switching of linear amplifiers and transverters."  The TX
Delay does not appear to be documented.

(KEY OUT on a KX3 is the RING contact of the 2.5 mm stereo connector
labeled ACC2).

73,
Bob, N6TV
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Re: [Elecraft] What to check when FT8 won't transmit (K3, Signalink)

2018-06-05 Thread Neil Zampella

So you're saying that if you select K3 as the rig, and PTT to use CAT, 
you get error messages?


FWIW .. FT8 mode DEFINITELY needs CAT control, especially if you're 
going to be chasing any DXpeditions as they will be using the Fox & 
Hounds mode.   It also makes sure that when you send spots to PSK 
Reporter, Hamspots or any other spotting location you have the correct band.



Neil, KN3ILZ


On 6/5/2018 1:09 PM, Stephen Dubin wrote:

Here is a link to the instructions from Signalink:
http://www.tigertronics.com/pgmsetup.htm#WSJT-X

Part of that file says:
WSJT-X

     Click File, then click Settings.
     In the new window that opens, click the General tab and enter your call in 
the My Call text box.
**  Click the Radio tab and select "None" in the Rig drop-down menu.  Select 
"Vox" as the PTT Method.  Note that your radio's VOX setting should be OFF.  This setting 
simply allows the SignaLink USB to control PTT
     Click the Audio tab and select "USB Audio Codec" for both the Input and Output sound card.  If using Windows 
Vista/7/8.x/10, then you'll need to select  "Microphone - USB Audio Codec" for "Input" and "Speakers - 
USB Audio Codec" for "Output".
     Click the OK button to close the Settings window.
     Set the "PWR" slider on the WSJT-X main window (right-hand side of screen) 
to the second notch from the top (roughly -5.1db).  Note that if you lower this slider 
too much the SignaLink USB will NOT switch into transmit!  See details below.
     WSJT-X is a complex program so please take some time to read the WSJT-X 
users guide!

That is why I set VOX on in the Software, and off on my K3. Pretty much 
anything else generates an error box. What is confusing to me is that it worked 
OK this way before and only fails when my daughter is watching  :-{

73 de W3UEC (Steve, the mystified)

-Original Message-
From: Don Wilhelm 
To: Stephen Dubin ; Elecraft 
Sent: Tue, Jun 5, 2018 11:01 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What to check when FT8 won't transmit (K3, Signalink)


Steve,

I believe setting VOX on in the software will not work unless you have
VOX turned on in the K3.
You can use PTT via CAT command in the software and leave VOX turned off
in the K3.
Alternately, turn VOX on in the K3 and tell the software that you are
using VOX in the K3.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/5/2018 10:00 AM, Stephen Dubin wrote:

TNX for prompt reply.
As per "Wilhelm Doctrine,"  VOX is on in software. VOX is off in K3.

73 de W3UEC (Steve)


-----Original Message-
From: Don Wilhelm 
To: Stephen Dubin ; Elecraft 
Sent: Tue, Jun 5, 2018 9:20 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What to check when FT8 won't transmit (K3,
Signalink)

Steve,

I don't have a quick answer for you, BUT ---
Understand that the TX light on the SignaLink only says that the
SignaLink itself is producing audio.

It detects the audio stream in the box itself and sets its TX light on.

If the K3 TX light does not turn on, then investigate the station setup
is initiating transmit. There are several possible ways (use only one
or the K3 may get locked in transmit).
Are you using PTT from the Signalink?
Are you using VOX in the K3?
Are you using PTT via CAT command from the software?
Something else?

73,
Don W3FPR


On 6/5/2018 8:57 AM, Stephen Dubin via Elecraft wrote:

Just to see whether I like it (I didn't), I set up for FT8 with K3,

Signalink and WSJT on Windows 10. I installed Meinberg when I had
trouble receiving. I made a shipload of contacts and decided to go
back to CW. Recently my daughter (KM4UDF) who is recently licensed
said, "Aw C'mon Daddy, show me FT8."  I used same settings as before
-- as well as I can remember. I double checked using the "Wilhelm
Doctrine."   "Time,is"  says my system time is good. Software has VOX
on and K3 has VOX off. Receiving (on 40 meters) went well with many
CQ's and QSO's reported on the program. When I hit the "TUNE" tab on
WSJT, the red "TX" light will light on the Signalink box, but K3 will
not transmit. Changing position of "POWER" slider on software doesn't
help. Changing MIC on K3 made no difference.Antenna SWR reads 1.1:1,
Signalink has not been unplugged from K3 since time everything worked.
Other modes (CW, Sideband) work fine.

My main question is, "If receiving works OK and Signalink "fires"

when TUNE button on software is hit, what (hopefully systematic) steps
should I take to see why K3 does not transmit now; although it did
before. Is this a special curse on folks who swear off FT8 and then
try to return?

TNX for guidance to the perplexed. 73 de W3UEC (Steve)




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Re: [Elecraft] What to check when FT8 won't transmit (K3, Signalink)

2018-06-05 Thread Don Wilhelm

Steve,

The K3 still has to go into transmit via either PTT or VOX.
That can happen if you are using the Signalink cable to the 8 pin mic 
jack --
However, if you are using the Signalink LINE IN/LINE OUT connections to 
the K3 rear panel, you also need to connect the Signalink PTT output to 
the K3 PTT input.

Alternately, you can set VOX to ON in the K3 - it works fine.

Unfortunately, those Signalink instructions do not cover all cases.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/5/2018 1:09 PM, Stephen Dubin wrote:

Here is a link to the instructions from Signalink:
http://www.tigertronics.com/pgmsetup.htm#WSJT-X

Part of that file says:
WSJT-X

    Click File, then click Settings.
    In the new window that opens, click the General tab and enter your 
call in the My Call text box.
** *Click the Radio tab and select "None" in the Rig drop-down menu. 
Select "Vox" as the PTT Method.  Note that your radio's VOX setting 
should be OFF.  This setting simply allows the SignaLink USB to 
control PTT*
    Click the Audio tab and select "USB Audio Codec" for both the 
Input and Output sound card.  If using Windows Vista/7/8.x/10, then 
you'll need to select  "Microphone - USB Audio Codec" for "Input" and 
"Speakers - USB Audio Codec" for "Output".

    Click the OK button to close the Settings window.
    Set the "PWR" slider on the WSJT-X main window (right-hand side of 
screen) to the second notch from the top (roughly -5.1db).  Note that 
if you lower this slider too much the SignaLink USB will NOT switch 
into transmit!  See details below.
    WSJT-X is a complex program so please take some time to read the 
WSJT-X users guide!

That is why I set VOX on in the Software, and off on my K3. Pretty 
much anything else generates an error box. What is confusing to me is 
that it worked OK this way before and only fails when my daughter is 
watching  :-{

73 de W3UEC (Steve, the mystified)

-Original Message-
From: Don Wilhelm 
To: Stephen Dubin ; Elecraft 
Sent: Tue, Jun 5, 2018 11:01 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What to check when FT8 won't transmit (K3, 
Signalink)

Steve,

I believe setting VOX on in the software will not work unless you have
VOX turned on in the K3.
You can use PTT via CAT command in the software and leave VOX turned off
in the K3.
Alternately, turn VOX on in the K3 and tell the software that you are
using VOX in the K3.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/5/2018 10:00 AM, Stephen Dubin wrote:
> TNX for prompt reply.
> As per "Wilhelm Doctrine,"  VOX is on in software. VOX is off in K3.
>
> 73 de W3UEC (Steve)
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Don Wilhelm <mailto:donw...@embarqmail.com>>
> To: Stephen Dubin mailto:dubi...@aol.com>>; 
Elecraft mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net>>

> Sent: Tue, Jun 5, 2018 9:20 am
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What to check when FT8 won't transmit (K3,
> Signalink)
>
> Steve,
>
> I don't have a quick answer for you, BUT ---
> Understand that the TX light on the SignaLink only says that the
> SignaLink itself is producing audio.
>
> It detects the audio stream in the box itself and sets its TX light on.
>
> If the K3 TX light does not turn on, then investigate the station setup
> is initiating transmit. There are several possible ways (use only one
> or the K3 may get locked in transmit).
> Are you using PTT from the Signalink?
> Are you using VOX in the K3?
> Are you using PTT via CAT command from the software?
> Something else?
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>
> On 6/5/2018 8:57 AM, Stephen Dubin via Elecraft wrote:
> >
> > Just to see whether I like it (I didn't), I set up for FT8 with K3,
> Signalink and WSJT on Windows 10. I installed Meinberg when I had
> trouble receiving. I made a shipload of contacts and decided to go
> back to CW. Recently my daughter (KM4UDF) who is recently licensed
> said, "Aw C'mon Daddy, show me FT8."  I used same settings as before
> -- as well as I can remember. I double checked using the "Wilhelm
> Doctrine."   "Time,is"  says my system time is good. Software has VOX
> on and K3 has VOX off. Receiving (on 40 meters) went well with many
> CQ's and QSO's reported on the program. When I hit the "TUNE" tab on
> WSJT, the red "TX" light will light on the Signalink box, but K3 will
> not transmit. Changing position of "POWER" slider on software doesn't
> help. Changing MIC on K3 made no difference.Antenna SWR reads 1.1:1,
> Signalink has not been unplugged from K3 since time everything worked.
> Other modes (CW, Sideband) work fine.
> > My main question is, "If receiving works OK and Signalink "fires"
> when TUNE button on software is hit, what (hopefully systematic) steps
>

Re: [Elecraft] What to check when FT8 won't transmit (K3, Signalink)

2018-06-05 Thread Stephen Dubin via Elecraft

Here is a link to the instructions from Signalink:
http://www.tigertronics.com/pgmsetup.htm#WSJT-X

Part of that file says:
WSJT-X

    Click File, then click Settings.
    In the new window that opens, click the General tab and enter your call in 
the My Call text box.
**  Click the Radio tab and select "None" in the Rig drop-down menu.  Select 
"Vox" as the PTT Method.  Note that your radio's VOX setting should be OFF.  
This setting simply allows the SignaLink USB to control PTT
    Click the Audio tab and select "USB Audio Codec" for both the Input and 
Output sound card.  If using Windows Vista/7/8.x/10, then you'll need to select 
 "Microphone - USB Audio Codec" for "Input" and "Speakers - USB Audio Codec" 
for "Output".
    Click the OK button to close the Settings window.
    Set the "PWR" slider on the WSJT-X main window (right-hand side of screen) 
to the second notch from the top (roughly -5.1db).  Note that if you lower this 
slider too much the SignaLink USB will NOT switch into transmit!  See details 
below.
    WSJT-X is a complex program so please take some time to read the WSJT-X 
users guide!

That is why I set VOX on in the Software, and off on my K3. Pretty much 
anything else generates an error box. What is confusing to me is that it worked 
OK this way before and only fails when my daughter is watching  :-{

73 de W3UEC (Steve, the mystified)

-Original Message-
From: Don Wilhelm 
To: Stephen Dubin ; Elecraft 
Sent: Tue, Jun 5, 2018 11:01 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What to check when FT8 won't transmit (K3, Signalink)

Steve,

I believe setting VOX on in the software will not work unless you have
VOX turned on in the K3.
You can use PTT via CAT command in the software and leave VOX turned off
in the K3.
Alternately, turn VOX on in the K3 and tell the software that you are
using VOX in the K3.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/5/2018 10:00 AM, Stephen Dubin wrote:
> TNX for prompt reply.
> As per "Wilhelm Doctrine,"  VOX is on in software. VOX is off in K3.
>
> 73 de W3UEC (Steve)
>
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: Don Wilhelm 
> To: Stephen Dubin ; Elecraft 
> Sent: Tue, Jun 5, 2018 9:20 am
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What to check when FT8 won't transmit (K3,
> Signalink)
>
> Steve,
>
> I don't have a quick answer for you, BUT ---
> Understand that the TX light on the SignaLink only says that the
> SignaLink itself is producing audio.
>
> It detects the audio stream in the box itself and sets its TX light on.
>
> If the K3 TX light does not turn on, then investigate the station setup
> is initiating transmit. There are several possible ways (use only one
> or the K3 may get locked in transmit).
> Are you using PTT from the Signalink?
> Are you using VOX in the K3?
> Are you using PTT via CAT command from the software?
> Something else?
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>
> On 6/5/2018 8:57 AM, Stephen Dubin via Elecraft wrote:
> >
> > Just to see whether I like it (I didn't), I set up for FT8 with K3,
> Signalink and WSJT on Windows 10. I installed Meinberg when I had
> trouble receiving. I made a shipload of contacts and decided to go
> back to CW. Recently my daughter (KM4UDF) who is recently licensed
> said, "Aw C'mon Daddy, show me FT8."  I used same settings as before
> -- as well as I can remember. I double checked using the "Wilhelm
> Doctrine."   "Time,is"  says my system time is good. Software has VOX
> on and K3 has VOX off. Receiving (on 40 meters) went well with many
> CQ's and QSO's reported on the program. When I hit the "TUNE" tab on
> WSJT, the red "TX" light will light on the Signalink box, but K3 will
> not transmit. Changing position of "POWER" slider on software doesn't
> help. Changing MIC on K3 made no difference.Antenna SWR reads 1.1:1,
> Signalink has not been unplugged from K3 since time everything worked.
> Other modes (CW, Sideband) work fine.
> > My main question is, "If receiving works OK and Signalink "fires"
> when TUNE button on software is hit, what (hopefully systematic) steps
> should I take to see why K3 does not transmit now; although it did
> before. Is this a special curse on folks who swear off FT8 and then
> try to return?
> > TNX for guidance to the perplexed. 73 de W3UEC (Steve)

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Re: [Elecraft] What to check when FT8 won't transmit (K3, Signalink)

2018-06-05 Thread Don Wilhelm

Steve,

I believe setting VOX on in the software will not work unless you have 
VOX turned on in the K3.
You can use PTT via CAT command in the software and leave VOX turned off 
in the K3.
Alternately, turn VOX on in the K3 and tell the software that you are 
using VOX in the K3.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/5/2018 10:00 AM, Stephen Dubin wrote:

TNX for prompt reply.
As per "Wilhelm Doctrine,"  VOX is on in software. VOX is off in K3.

73 de W3UEC (Steve)

-Original Message-
From: Don Wilhelm 
To: Stephen Dubin ; Elecraft 
Sent: Tue, Jun 5, 2018 9:20 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What to check when FT8 won't transmit (K3, 
Signalink)

Steve,

I don't have a quick answer for you, BUT ---
Understand that the TX light on the SignaLink only says that the
SignaLink itself is producing audio.

It detects the audio stream in the box itself and sets its TX light on.

If the K3 TX light does not turn on, then investigate the station setup
is initiating transmit. There are several possible ways (use only one
or the K3 may get locked in transmit).
Are you using PTT from the Signalink?
Are you using VOX in the K3?
Are you using PTT via CAT command from the software?
Something else?

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/5/2018 8:57 AM, Stephen Dubin via Elecraft wrote:
>
> Just to see whether I like it (I didn't), I set up for FT8 with K3, 
Signalink and WSJT on Windows 10. I installed Meinberg when I had 
trouble receiving. I made a shipload of contacts and decided to go 
back to CW. Recently my daughter (KM4UDF) who is recently licensed 
said, "Aw C'mon Daddy, show me FT8."  I used same settings as before 
-- as well as I can remember. I double checked using the "Wilhelm 
Doctrine."   "Time,is"  says my system time is good. Software has VOX 
on and K3 has VOX off. Receiving (on 40 meters) went well with many 
CQ's and QSO's reported on the program. When I hit the "TUNE" tab on 
WSJT, the red "TX" light will light on the Signalink box, but K3 will 
not transmit. Changing position of "POWER" slider on software doesn't 
help. Changing MIC on K3 made no difference.Antenna SWR reads 1.1:1, 
Signalink has not been unplugged from K3 since time everything worked. 
Other modes (CW, Sideband) work fine.
> My main question is, "If receiving works OK and Signalink "fires" 
when TUNE button on software is hit, what (hopefully systematic) steps 
should I take to see why K3 does not transmit now; although it did 
before. Is this a special curse on folks who swear off FT8 and then 
try to return?

> TNX for guidance to the perplexed. 73 de W3UEC (Steve)

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Re: [Elecraft] What to check when FT8 won't transmit (K3, Signalink)

2018-06-05 Thread Stephen Dubin via Elecraft

TNX for prompt reply.
As per "Wilhelm Doctrine,"  VOX is on in software. VOX is off in K3.

73 de W3UEC (Steve)


-Original Message-
From: Don Wilhelm 
To: Stephen Dubin ; Elecraft 
Sent: Tue, Jun 5, 2018 9:20 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What to check when FT8 won't transmit (K3, Signalink)


Steve,

I don't have a quick answer for you, BUT ---
Understand that the TX light on the SignaLink only says that the
SignaLink itself is producing audio.

It detects the audio stream in the box itself and sets its TX light on.

If the K3 TX light does not turn on, then investigate the station setup
is initiating transmit. There are several possible ways (use only one
or the K3 may get locked in transmit).
Are you using PTT from the Signalink?
Are you using VOX in the K3?
Are you using PTT via CAT command from the software?
Something else?

73,
Don W3FPR


On 6/5/2018 8:57 AM, Stephen Dubin via Elecraft wrote:
>
> Just to see whether I like it (I didn't), I set up for FT8 with K3, Signalink 
> and WSJT on Windows 10. I installed Meinberg when I had trouble receiving. I 
> made a shipload of contacts and decided to go back to CW. Recently my 
> daughter (KM4UDF) who is recently licensed said, "Aw C'mon Daddy, show me 
> FT8."  I used same settings as before -- as well as I can remember. I double 
> checked using the "Wilhelm Doctrine."   "Time,is"  says my system time is 
> good. Software has VOX on and K3 has VOX off. Receiving (on 40 meters) went 
> well with many CQ's and QSO's reported on the program. When I hit the "TUNE" 
> tab on WSJT, the red "TX" light will light on the Signalink box, but K3 will 
> not transmit. Changing position of "POWER" slider on software doesn't help. 
> Changing MIC on K3 made no difference.Antenna SWR reads 1.1:1, Signalink has 
> not been unplugged from K3 since time everything worked. Other modes (CW, 
> Sideband) work fine.
> My main question is, "If receiving works OK and Signalink "fires" when TUNE 
> button on software is hit, what (hopefully systematic) steps should I take to 
> see why K3 does not transmit now; although it did before. Is this a special 
> curse on folks who swear off FT8 and then try to return?
> TNX for guidance to the perplexed. 73 de W3UEC (Steve)
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Re: [Elecraft] What to check when FT8 won't transmit (K3, Signalink)

2018-06-05 Thread Don Wilhelm

Steve,

I don't have a quick answer for you, BUT ---
Understand that the TX light on the SignaLink only says that the
SignaLink itself is producing audio.

It detects the audio stream in the box itself and sets its TX light on.

If the K3 TX light does not turn on, then investigate the station setup
is initiating transmit. There are several possible ways (use only one
or the K3 may get locked in transmit).

Are you using PTT from the Signalink?
Are you using VOX in the K3?
Are you using PTT via CAT command from the software?
Something else?

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/5/2018 8:57 AM, Stephen Dubin via Elecraft wrote:

Just to see whether I like it (I didn't), I set up for FT8 with K3, Signalink and WSJT on Windows 10. I installed Meinberg when I had
trouble receiving. I made a shipload of contacts and decided to go back to CW. Recently my daughter (KM4UDF) who is recently licensed said,
"Aw C'mon Daddy, show me FT8." I used same settings as before -- as well as I can remember. I double checked using the
"Wilhelm Doctrine." "Time,is" says my system time is good. Software has VOX on and K3 has VOX off. Receiving (on 40
meters) went well with many CQ's and QSO's reported on the program. When I hit the "TUNE" tab on WSJT, the red "TX"
light will light on the Signalink box, but K3 will not transmit. Changing position of "POWER" slider on software doesn't help.
Changing MIC on K3 made no difference.Antenna SWR reads 1.1:1, Signalink has not been unplugged from K3 since time everything worked. Other
modes (CW, Sideband) work fine.
My main question is, "If receiving works OK and Signalink "fires" when TUNE
button on software is hit, what (hopefully systematic) steps should I take to see why K3 does
not transmit now; although it did before. Is this a special curse on folks who swear off FT8
and then try to return?
TNX for guidance to the perplexed. 73 de W3UEC (Steve)

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[Elecraft] What to check when FT8 won't transmit (K3, Signalink)

2018-06-05 Thread Stephen Dubin via Elecraft


Just to see whether I like it (I didn't), I set up for FT8 with K3, Signalink 
and WSJT on Windows 10. I installed Meinberg when I had trouble receiving. I 
made a shipload of contacts and decided to go back to CW. Recently my daughter 
(KM4UDF) who is recently licensed said, "Aw C'mon Daddy, show me FT8."  I used 
same settings as before -- as well as I can remember. I double checked using 
the "Wilhelm Doctrine."   "Time,is"  says my system time is good. Software has 
VOX on and K3 has VOX off. Receiving (on 40 meters) went well with many CQ's 
and QSO's reported on the program. When I hit the "TUNE" tab on WSJT, the red 
"TX" light will light on the Signalink box, but K3 will not transmit. Changing 
position of "POWER" slider on software doesn't help. Changing MIC on K3 made no 
difference.Antenna SWR reads 1.1:1, Signalink has not been unplugged from K3 
since time everything worked. Other modes (CW, Sideband) work fine.
My main question is, "If receiving works OK and Signalink "fires" when TUNE 
button on software is hit, what (hopefully systematic) steps should I take to 
see why K3 does not transmit now; although it did before. Is this a special 
curse on folks who swear off FT8 and then try to return?
TNX for guidance to the perplexed. 73 de W3UEC (Steve)
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Re: [Elecraft] What technical similarity do HRO receivers and Elecraft receivers share that is unique? - Answer

2017-09-03 Thread Charlie T, K3ICH

The Hallicrafters SX-73 used three selectable fixed very low value resistors to 
alter the Q and hence, the passband of three IF stages.

Does this qualify?

73, Charlie k3ICH


If you happen to own one, I'd strongly suggest checking these resistors.  I 
have two radios in for restoration, where the resistors were off by as much as 
a factor of 3 which completely screwed up the alignment.

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Doug Millar via Elecraft
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2017 8:46 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: [Elecraft] What technical similarity do HRO receivers and Elecraft 
receivers share that is unique? - Answer

Hi Don and others-   Ok.Here is my answer-  I don't think I am far off by 
saying that the unique similarity it is in using switched components to effect 
frequency coverage of the same tuning coil. In the HRO they had clips you could 
change over to go to "bandspread" mode on each coil assembly, Elecraft uses 
relays (switches) to change capacitor values in their bandpass filters so that 
the same assembly can cover two ranges. Essentially the same thing. I don't 
think any other companies have used this technique as extensively as National 
and Elecraft. 
Your opinion may vary.Doug
 Dr.Doug Millar EdD.
K6JEY
drzarko...@yahoo.com
562 810 3989  cell/text

 
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Re: [Elecraft] What technical similarity do HRO receivers and Elecraft receivers share that is unique? - Answer

2017-09-03 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire

In the HRO-7 coil sets (that I had) they were screws that changed the 
connections. 

It was a fun thought experiment for those of us who had HRO receivers. 

I miss my HRO but mine came to me from W6HUA - Field Gray who was Jack Webb's 
art direction on the original Dragnet TV shows and well as the feature length 
movies "The DI" and "Pete Kelly's Blues"). I met Field on 80 meters and he said 
he'd sell me his HRO IF I promised that if I needed the cash back he'd buy it 
from me. In College that happened and he took it back for the $100 I paid for 
it (about $15 in today's money). I was just starting college and some months 
later he left it at my Mother's home. I then found out he had become an SK from 
cancer. 

Decades later another young fellow used to spend hours in my shack listening to 
it. Eventually I turned it over to him, no charge because that is what I paid, 
with the same conditions. 

That made it a great receiver, no matter how good it was or was not by today's 
standards. 

That's the Ham radio I grew up in. Most gear was passed onto the next 
generation with no idea of profit. The price we paid was what it was worth to 
us for the enjoyment we gained from it.  

73, Ron AC7AC

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Doug Millar via Elecraft
Sent: Sunday, September 3, 2017 5:46 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] What technical similarity do HRO receivers and Elecraft 
receivers share that is unique? - Answer

Hi Don and others-   Ok.Here is my answer-  I don't think I am far off by 
saying that the unique similarity it is in using switched components to effect 
frequency coverage of the same tuning coil. In the HRO they had clips you could 
change over to go to "bandspread" mode on each coil assembly, Elecraft uses 
relays (switches) to change capacitor values in their bandpass filters so that 
the same assembly can cover two ranges. Essentially the same thing. I don't 
think any other companies have used this technique as extensively as National 
and Elecraft. 
Your opinion may vary.Doug
 Dr.Doug Millar EdD.
K6JEY
drzarko...@yahoo.com
562 810 3989  cell/text

 
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[Elecraft] What technical similarity do HRO receivers and Elecraft receivers share that is unique? - Answer

2017-09-03 Thread Doug Millar via Elecraft

Hi Don and others-   Ok.Here is my answer-  I don't think I am far off by 
saying that the unique similarity it is in using switched components to effect 
frequency coverage of the same tuning coil. In the HRO they had clips you could 
change over to go to "bandspread" mode on each coil assembly, Elecraft uses 
relays (switches) to change capacitor values in their bandpass filters so that 
the same assembly can cover two ranges. Essentially the same thing. I don't 
think any other companies have used this technique as extensively as National 
and Elecraft. 
    Your opinion may vary.    Doug
 Dr.Doug Millar EdD.
K6JEY
drzarko...@yahoo.com
562 810 3989  cell/text

 
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Re: [Elecraft] What are the RF devices in the New 1500Watt KPA1500 Amp?

2017-07-04 Thread Roy Koeppe

Two BLF188

73,RoyK6XK
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[Elecraft] What are the RF devices in the KPA1500 Amp?

2017-07-04 Thread Michael Aust

What are the RF devices in the New 1500Watt KPA1500 Amp?


Mike




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[Elecraft] What is the correct way to hook up my K2 & K3 to my KAT500 & KPA300 ?

2017-04-17 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft


The KPA500 is connected to the the KAT500 via a 15pin cable (AUX on Amp,  AMP 
Control on KAT500)
The K3 is connected to the KAT500 via a 15 pin cable as well (ACC on K3, XCVR 
on KAT500)


I have a switch on the Input to the KPA500 that selects either the K2 or the K3


Do I connect the Key Out line from the K2 to the RCA Key IN (PTT RLY Red Jack)

and then the key signal to the AMP will be provided via the 15 pin cable?


Thank you
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Re: [Elecraft] What caused long reposts

2017-04-02 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT

If you are using Thunderbird, select the relevant part(s) before you hit 
reply.


Doesn't matter if you're in digest mode or receive each post as a 
separate message, just select the relevant parts of the message and 
that's all that shows up in the response.


A quick rule can put all Elecraft mail in a separate folder, and then it 
only takes a moment to delete mail that's not of interest.


73 -- Lynn

On 4/2/2017 4:08 PM, David Woolley wrote:

If you are using Thunderbird, I believe the best way is to request the
digest in MIME Digest mode.  As well as allowing you to page through the
digest, it also allows you to treat the individual messages as
attachments, so you can open up the specific  message and reply to it.
That way, you get the correct subject, and, more subtly, you get the
correct In-Reply-To header, so that forums and good mail clients can
properly place the reply in the thread.

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Re: [Elecraft] What caused long reposts

2017-04-02 Thread David Woolley



If you are using Thunderbird, I believe the best way is to request the 
digest in MIME Digest mode.  As well as allowing you to page through the 
digest, it also allows you to treat the individual messages as 
attachments, so you can open up the specific  message and reply to it. 
That way, you get the correct subject, and, more subtly, you get the 
correct In-Reply-To header, so that forums and good mail clients can 
properly place the reply in the thread.


That's how I do all replies to this list.

(Note Thunderbird does have some bugs, e.g. I had to delete a redundant 
"Re:" from the subject.  It can also be a little fiddly working out 
which instance of the subject is the correct one in the attachments.)


Unfortunately, the top posting policy of the list reduces the incentive 
to trim posts, meaning people who do end up quoting the digest don't 
think about pruning it.  Failing to prune is also bad for readers of the 
digest, as they have to page over the complete back thread.


This has been top-posted, but also pruned, as it would be for an 
interleaved posting (popularly called bottom posting, although not 
everything need be at the bottom).


On 02/04/17 03:35, Don Wilhelm wrote:



I understand that those steps are more difficult on a smartphone.  It is
easy when using an email client like Thunderbird.  As I have stated, I
suggest receiving individual emails and sorting them into an Elecraft
folder.  That way you can reply to individual posts without the bother
of deleting a lot of information.  I do not receive email on a
smartphone, so I don't have any suggestions for handling that.



--
David Woolley K2 06123.

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Re: [Elecraft] What caused long reposts

2017-04-01 Thread Don Wilhelm


Terry,

If you delete all but the relevant reference to what you are posting and 
change the subject to something relevant, no one will complain.


The problem is that some will just reply to the digest, and the subject 
line is "digest" (or something like that), and the item in the digest 
that you are trying to reply to is buried in the mass of digest posts 
with no identification of what you are replying to.  That means that 
your reply is not meaningful, and users are apt to just hit the delete 
button.


I understand that those steps are more difficult on a smartphone.  It is 
easy when using an email client like Thunderbird.  As I have stated, I 
suggest receiving individual emails and sorting them into an Elecraft 
folder.  That way you can reply to individual posts without the bother 
of deleting a lot of information.  I do not receive email on a 
smartphone, so I don't have any suggestions for handling that.


Oh yes, when replying to an individual email, snip all but the relevant 
information, and the stuff added by mailman.qth.com should be deleted as 
well.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/1/2017 9:59 PM, Terry Brown wrote:

I notice that sometimes when someone replies to a question on what appears to 
be the digest form of the list,  the entire digest gets reposted.

I read my digest list with my iPhone and when that happens the digest gets 
extremely long.

How can I guard against this if I reply to a digest message. I don't want to 
inflict the long posts on others.


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[Elecraft] What caused long reposts

2017-04-01 Thread Terry Brown

I notice that sometimes when someone replies to a question on what appears to 
be the digest form of the list,  the entire digest gets reposted. 

I read my digest list with my iPhone and when that happens the digest gets 
extremely long. 

How can I guard against this if I reply to a digest message. I don't want to 
inflict the long posts on others. 

Thanks and 73's

Terry de N7TB 
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