Re: [Elecraft] Wherefore art thou, K3 (in CQWW)
OK... or better yet, D'oh! It was pointed out to me that I live in Zone 4 (I knew that) and operate from the same. SCP has it right... I have been sending 04 for a number of years... The only problem was that my CQ WW DX certificate states new Zone 5 record and I bought into it. Oops! ;o) That record is for Zone 4 and was set using a K2 :o) Now to see what we can do with a K3 *heheh* GL and happy huntin' to all this weekend! 73, Julius n2wn Hi Ken, Look forward to catching you on 160! That would be a new one for me ;o) K3/100 #366 will be on from Zone 5. Teams anyone??? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Wherefore-art-thou%2C-K3-%28in-CQWW%29-tp1560556p1576283.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Wherefore art thou, K3 (in CQWW)
Hi Ken, Look forward to catching you on 160! That would be a new one for me ;o) K3/100 #366 will be on from Zone 5. Teams anyone??? 73, Julius n2wn K3s #320 and 321 at ZM1A - Multi-Two category. Good luck and 73, Ken ZL1AIH (at ZM1A in contests) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Wherefore-art-thou%2C-K3-%28in-CQWW%29-tp1560556p1572125.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Wherefore art thou, K3 (in CQWW)
Will be on CQWW from 'G'. 73's G0IDA K3 #1474 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: K3 #128 will be on air from 9M2CNC in CQWW - SOAB HP. Good luck to all. I hope the A/K values stay low to allow some East Coast US stations over the pole this year on 20m. 73 de Rich, G4ZFE/9M2CNC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Wherefore art thou, K3 (in CQWW)
Hello Igor, Will you also have a beam for 6m? It would really be GREAT to contact 8Q7 on JT65A mode during your moonrise!!! I can send you more information about JT65A and 6m EME if it is a possibility for you to be QRV. The smallest station I have contacted so far was running 100w to a 5 element yagi, but most of the hundreds of 6m EME contacts I have made are running an amplifier. GL and VY 73, Lance Igor Sokolov wrote: I take my K3 with the second receiver to 8Q7DV for CQWW CW 73, Igor UA9CDC + Where are the peripatetic K3s going to be for CQWW? Mine will be at C6AKX, sadly without the second receiver :-( Hope to work you all, 73, Fred KE7X This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- Lance Collister, W7GJ (ex: WN3GPL, WA3GPL, WA1JXN, WA1JXN/C6A, ZF2OC/ZF8) P.O. Box 73 Frenchtown, MT 59834 USA QTH: DN27UB TEL: (406) 626-5728 URL: http://www.bigskyspaces.com/w7gj 2m DXCC #11/6m DXCC #815 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Wherefore art thou, K3 (in CQWW)
K3 number 076 at P49Y, single band 40m (it's second year in that service). 73, andy, ae6y, p49y - Original Message - From: Cady, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 6:32 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Wherefore art thou, K3 (in CQWW) Where are the peripatetic K3s going to be for CQWW? Mine will be at C6AKX, sadly without the second receiver :-( Hope to work you all, 73, Fred KE7X This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Wherefore art thou, K3 (in CQWW)
I take my K3 with the second receiver to 8Q7DV for CQWW CW 73, Igor UA9CDC + Where are the peripatetic K3s going to be for CQWW? Mine will be at C6AKX, sadly without the second receiver :-( Hope to work you all, 73, Fred KE7X This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] wherefore art thou, K3?
- Original Message - From: David Toepfer [EMAIL PROTECTED] A bigger case with a new bigger front panel for more/larger knobs, larger display, and analog S-meter; As someone said, more base/main station like. That would make me seriously consider a K3/4/5 - I bought the TS-480SAT earlier this year to use as GD4ELI when visiting my mother. The TS-480SAT is a great performer, excellent value for money, easy to use at home and mobile. But IMO neither the K2 or TS-480SAT are 'real' radios of the type I grew up with - Eddystone EA-12, ex-military etc. although they obviously offer far better performance and in relative terms are much cheaper. Don't take this as a knock on Elecraft, but were I to build a large radio (I have the K1 and KX1 here and applaud Elecraft's commitment to the Amateur market) then I would want to build something Meaty Beaty Big and not very Bouncy. Even a K2 re-packaged - one thing I like about my IC-7800 (which I am selling) is the large user interface. Simon Brown --- RSGB HF Convention October 2006: http://www.rsgb-hfc.org.uk/ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] wherefore art thou, K3?
Quite a post there Doug. Thanks for the comments insight. ... But ... That line of logic would have suggested the K2 would not have been successful. A QRP rig for $600? Gee, for that price we can get a full power rig from Asia. But as history has show, the risk has paid off and the K2 has indeed been a pretty successful rig both within and beyond the QRP community. If there were a K3 and if it offered enough improvements or changes to differentiate itself from the K2, then you'd see some pretty good sales. I suspect much of the sales would be to existing customers who already have a K2, K1 and/or KX1. We as a group have already shown that we're eager to buy multiple Elecraft offerings. After all there is substantial overlap between the 3 rigs (esp. K1 KX1) yet many have all 3! Being a kit is a differentiator all it's own. With no Heathkit kits anymore, those who want to build are left rather unsatisfied. Let's say the K3 were a 100 watt HF rig with a full-size form factor, full size ergonomics and operating features similar to the K2. Further assume a price tag of, say $1000. I bet you'd see sales! Of course, as you point out, the trick is just what would a K3 be? Top notch contest rig? Bottom tier starter rig? DC to Daylight all mode rig? SDR? It makes my head spin just thinking about it. Which is why I personally favor a K2-B. K2 internals married with a larger front panel featuring more and larger knobs. Same basic K2 performance in a larger package with more base-station oriented ergonomics. Basically, I guess I'm thinking I don't really need a K3 at all. The K2's performance is all I require, but a bigger box and analog S-meter would be nice. 73! - Keith KD1E - - K2 5411 - -Original Message- Wherefore at thou, K3? *snip* I think the dream of a K3 is something necessary to the group. I think the reality might be something different. I would love to be proven wrong ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] wherefore art thou, K3?
On August 28, 2006 09:38 am, Darwin, Keith wrote: Which is why I personally favor a K2-B. K2 internals married with a larger front panel featuring more and larger knobs. Same basic K2 performance in a larger package with more base-station oriented ergonomics. Basically, I guess I'm thinking I don't really need a K3 at all. The K2's performance is all I require, but a bigger box and analog S-meter would be nice. Yes! And the six meter band in the radio as well, and a variable IF shift, and a manual notch filter, and... Count me in. Darrell VA7TO [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Darrell Bellerive Amateur Radio Stations VA7TO and VE7CLA Grand Forks, British Columbia, Canada ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] wherefore art thou, K3?
Yes! And the six meter band in the radio as well, and a variable IF shift, and a manual notch filter, and... I sympathize with Eric and Wayne as they think about the future of this product. Everybody wants something different. I seem to be able to work as many stations as I care to talk to without variable IF shift and a manual notch filter. And the last time I was on 6m was using my TV to watch channel 2 when the cable went out. Not that these aren't important features but that everyone's needs are different. Frankly I just want something that looks cooler. I don't know what features those $10K rigs have that are better or different than my K2, but I like those big color screens with lots of waveforms, numbers, and digitally reproduced analog meters on them. Hey, maybe they pick up channel 2 on those screens and I could work 6m, too. :-) Craig NZ0R ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] wherefore art thou, K3? (style)
The K-3 ! How about that. I see a more ergonomic styled Elecraft with enhanced meters and nice big knobs. In kit form still but in a larger box to allow more room to populate the boards. A style more in tune with the new Elecraft amplifier. Perhaps a built in power supply as well. Classic black in color, to match the new amp, for sure ! Al W4ABW Raleigh ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] wherefore art thou, K3?
I feel, all Elecraft needs to consider - is creating a 2007 version of the K2, updated with 2006 technology, 2006 microelectronics, better display, and a few bells and whistles to play with. What the HOO bigger knobs, larger front panel to boot. Call it the K2+ or K2MKII or K207 IMHO many new and previous K2 owners would buy it. Consider how many auto owners upgrade to buy the latest VERSION of their favorite auto. Happens every day. Unfortunately, in the U.S. auto industry - NEW MODELS may contain less features, and less quality. Ala no chrome, no metal bumpers, no HP, no 8 cylinders, no oil pressure If Elecraft told me I could buy the K2+ or K207 - why wouldn't I want one? And this would give the Elecraft principals - more memory to play around in, and more technology to beef up the performance even more. Its a win, win. Thanks, Fred N3CSY __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] wherefore art thou, K3?
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006, Fred (FL) wrote: I feel, all Elecraft needs to consider - is creating a 2007 version of the K2, updated with 2006 technology, 2006 microelectronics, better display, and a few bells and whistles to play with. It's very interesting to hear all the second guessing of the Elecraft folks hereone might make the assumption that without the K3 Elecraft will dry up and blow away in the winds. Another viewpoint might be that Eric and Wayne looked long and hard at the Amateur Radio market and produced a superior product that is well accepted, and if judged by price is quite a value, or if judged by quality is quite a value, or if judged by the ability for the owner to repair the unit is quite a value. Other benefits such as building your own rig, having something that is sub-sub-sub battleship size, easily used in portable and emergency situations seem to appeal to many. But what do I know, simple appliance operator that I am, and not with unlimited funds to purchase the latest(but not always greatest) technology with large knobs, multi-colored displays and bands from DC to light, including a general coverage receiver, TV monitor, radar detector and security system. I'm glad that Elecraft didn't design and produce a rig that I could never afford! 73,Thom-k3hrn www.zerobeat.net Home of QRP Web Ring, Drakelist home page,Drake Web Ring, QRP IRC channel, Drake IRC Channel, Elecraft Owners Database www.tlchost.net/hosting/ *** Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] wherefore art thou, K3?
I could embrace that, as I doubt (I do not know if) it would be a huge development investment. A bigger case with a new bigger front panel for more/larger knobs, larger display, and analog S-meter; As someone said, more base/main station like. Your old K2 could attach right to the new control/display board and you would be off and running. But who knows if it would be worth the investment for Elecraft. 'T'would be sweet. David, k3tue . --- Fred (FL) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I feel, all Elecraft needs to consider - is creating a 2007 version of the K2, updated with 2006 technology, 2006 microelectronics, better display, and a few bells and whistles to play with. What the HOO bigger knobs, larger front panel to boot. Call it the K2+ or K2MKII or K207 IMHO many new and previous K2 owners would buy it. Consider how many auto owners upgrade to buy the latest VERSION of their favorite auto. Happens every day. Unfortunately, in the U.S. auto industry - NEW MODELS may contain less features, and less quality. Ala no chrome, no metal bumpers, no HP, no 8 cylinders, no oil pressure If Elecraft told me I could buy the K2+ or K207 - why wouldn't I want one? And this would give the Elecraft principals - more memory to play around in, and more technology to beef up the performance even more. Its a win, win. Thanks, Fred N3CSY __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] wherefore art thou, K3?
I'm glad that Elecraft didn't design and produce a rig that I could never afford! Amen! dt . ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] wherefore art thou, K3?
It seems to me that the K2 does everything I want it to do from a feature and performance point of view - where it's lacking, as may people have said, is in user ergonomics. There are just too many functions that are squeezed into the limited front panel to make it very easy to use. While I haven't yet hooked my K2 to a computer, it looks like a number of the programs that work with the K2 effectively expand the front panel with more push buttons and controls. But since I don't want to have to haul a laptop with me when I travel with my K2, what I would like is not another bigger (and more expensive) K2+ or K3 but a simple, and small front panel extension box... perhaps something about the size of a KX-1. This box would have separate push buttons for each XTAL and DSP filter and for each of the tuning rates - that way I can just press a button and not have to cycle around all of the different choices to get to the one that I want. And, each button would have a built in L! ED that would light to indicate which button I pushed so that the choice is immediately obvious. This front panel extension box could also have a number of buttons for other functions that now require several menu steps, such as turning the DSP noise filter on and off, displaying the clock, etc. It can also have separate LED indicators to indicate when the RIT is on, when the XIT is on, etc. The box wouldn't duplicate any of the functions that are now directly available on the K2 front panel but would make it much easier to get to the frequently used functions that require multiple pushes of a button or multiple menus. The nice thing about such a front panel extension, besides making the K2 much more user friendly, and being small and light enough to take along, is that it could be easily implemented with a small processor that interfaces to the K2 via the remote K2 commands through the KIO2. So, would you buy such a front panel extension? How much would this go toward satisfying your desire for a K2+ or a K3, and how much would you be willing to pay for it? Bob W1SRB P.S. I sent this idea to Wayne and Eric several months ago. . -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Fred (FL) Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 3:13 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] wherefore art thou, K3? I feel, all Elecraft needs to consider - is creating a 2007 version of the K2, updated with 2006 technology, 2006 microelectronics, better display, and a few bells and whistles to play with. What the HOO bigger knobs, larger front panel to boot. Call it the K2+ or K2MKII or K207 IMHO many new and previous K2 owners would buy it. Consider how many auto owners upgrade to buy the latest VERSION of their favorite auto. Happens every day. Unfortunately, in the U.S. auto industry - NEW MODELS may contain less features, and less quality. Ala no chrome, no metal bumpers, no HP, no 8 cylinders, no oil pressure If Elecraft told me I could buy the K2+ or K207 - why wouldn't I want one? And this would give the Elecraft principals - more memory to play around in, and more technology to beef up the performance even more. Its a win, win. Thanks, Fred N3CSY __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] wherefore art thou, K3?
Bob, that's a GREAT idea. As I think about it, I realize ... I DON'T WANT A K3. There, I said it. I don't want a K3, I just want an larger and more spread out UI for the K2. I want a new front panel, bigger case, bigger knobs. BUT that ruins the K2 for portable use, now doesn't it. So, your approach of a K2 docking station may be the better answer. Plug in to the thingy and you have a larger UI. Unplug and your rig is still portable. No PC to lug around. Now combine the large UI panel with the 100 watt PA in a single case and it gets cooler yet! How much? I guess I'm willing to spend $250 or so on a new front panel thingy. I'm not willing to spend $1100 on a new rig. - Keith KD1E - - K2 5411 - -Original Message- From: Robert B (Bob) So, would you buy such a front panel extension? How much would this go toward satisfying your desire for a K2+ or a K3, and how much would you be willing to pay for it? Bob W1SRB P.S. I sent this idea to Wayne and Eric several months ago. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] wherefore art thou, K3?
Someone's already done this. I forget his reason, but if I recall, he used a pic controller to send commands to the i/o connection. I immagine such a device could be made to be quite flexable/programmable. --- Solosko, Robert B (Bob) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to me that the K2 does everything I want it to do from a feature and performance point of view - where it's lacking, as may people have said, is in user ergonomics. There are just too many functions that are squeezed into the limited front panel to make it very easy to use. While I haven't yet hooked my K2 to a computer, it looks like a number of the programs that work with the K2 effectively expand the front panel with more push buttons and controls. But since I don't want to have to haul a laptop with me when I travel with my K2, what I would like is not another bigger (and more expensive) K2+ or K3 but a simple, and small front panel extension box... perhaps something about the size of a KX-1. This box would have separate push buttons for each XTAL and DSP filter and for each of the tuning rates - that way I can just press a button and not have to cycle around all of the different choices to get to the one that I want. And, each button would have a built in L! ED that would light to indicate which button I pushed so that the choice is immediately obvious. This front panel extension box could also have a number of buttons for other functions that now require several menu steps, such as turning the DSP noise filter on and off, displaying the clock, etc. It can also have separate LED indicators to indicate when the RIT is on, when the XIT is on, etc. The box wouldn't duplicate any of the functions that are now directly available on the K2 front panel but would make it much easier to get to the frequently used functions that require multiple pushes of a button or multiple menus. The nice thing about such a front panel extension, besides making the K2 much more user friendly, and being small and light enough to take along, is that it could be easily implemented with a small processor that interfaces to the K2 via the remote K2 commands through the KIO2. So, would you buy such a front panel extension? How much would this go toward satisfying your desire for a K2+ or a K3, and how much would you be willing to pay for it? Bob W1SRB P.S. I sent this idea to Wayne and Eric several months ago. . -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Fred (FL) Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 3:13 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] wherefore art thou, K3? I feel, all Elecraft needs to consider - is creating a 2007 version of the K2, updated with 2006 technology, 2006 microelectronics, better display, and a few bells and whistles to play with. What the HOO bigger knobs, larger front panel to boot. Call it the K2+ or K2MKII or K207 IMHO many new and previous K2 owners would buy it. Consider how many auto owners upgrade to buy the latest VERSION of their favorite auto. Happens every day. Unfortunately, in the U.S. auto industry - NEW MODELS may contain less features, and less quality. Ala no chrome, no metal bumpers, no HP, no 8 cylinders, no oil pressure If Elecraft told me I could buy the K2+ or K207 - why wouldn't I want one? And this would give the Elecraft principals - more memory to play around in, and more technology to beef up the performance even more. Its a win, win. Thanks, Fred N3CSY __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] wherefore art thou, K3?
Brilliant idea! I would buy one, without question. David, k3tue . --- Solosko, Robert B (Bob) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't want to have to haul a laptop with me when I travel with my K2, what I would like is [...] a simple, and small front panel extension box... [...] So, would you buy such a front panel extension? How much would this go toward satisfying your desire for a K2+ or a K3, and how much would you be willing to pay for it? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] wherefore art thou, K3?
Exactly Keith, You need that $1100 to put towards the new Elecraft amp! 73 Tony W7GO - Original Message - From: Darwin, Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 12:54 PM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] wherefore art thou, K3? Bob, that's a GREAT idea. As I think about it, I realize ... I DON'T WANT A K3. There, I said it. I don't want a K3, I just want an larger and more spread out UI for the K2. I want a new front panel, bigger case, bigger knobs. BUT that ruins the K2 for portable use, now doesn't it. So, your approach of a K2 docking station may be the better answer. Plug in to the thingy and you have a larger UI. Unplug and your rig is still portable. No PC to lug around. Now combine the large UI panel with the 100 watt PA in a single case and it gets cooler yet! How much? I guess I'm willing to spend $250 or so on a new front panel thingy. I'm not willing to spend $1100 on a new rig. - Keith KD1E - - K2 5411 - ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] wherefore art thou, K3?
Doug: Discussions about a prospective K3 have always struck me as a bit curious. I'm not sure just what it is that people are looking for. I get the impression that you're talking about more operational features rather than improved engineering characteristics. As you note, there are lots of wish lists of features, but probably not enough overlap among the lists to create a market for a rig with a single list of extra features for which all the wishers are willing to pay an extra $1200. The closest you come to specifying how a K3 might differ from a K2 is that a K3 would be two K2s in a common box, and a bit of hardware to make them run smoothly in concert. Rather than come up with something like that, maybe the N4PY strategy is a better solution for the serious contester. Buy two K2s and tack them together with a contest box containing the interfacing electronics. If there are that many people looking to run two K2s simultaneously, perhaps Elecraft could develop a contest box accessory specifically for that purpose. I would also comment that those $10K radios tend to be a human factors nightmare. There are so many features that human cognition is literally overwhelmed by all the possibilities. I suspect that the serious contester using one of these fancy rigs identifies (probably unconscioiusly) the features actually needed (with perception of what is needed varying among operators) for contest operating, arranges things (with perhaps some very tricky programming ahead of time) to bring those few needed features to the fore, and ignores everything else. As you mentioned, SDRs are the wave of the future, but for go for blood contesting, they have not yet arrived. From that standpoint, it looks like a possible mod for the K2 would be for Elecraft to make the internals a bit more accessible to computer interaction, and let the aftermarket take care of the software. 73, Steve AA4AK So armed with 6 years of history, let's see what the prospects might be for a K3. First, what would be different than the K2? I've seen lots of wish lists but mostly they would be a K2 Mark II not really strategic thinking launched by a long range vision. And, probably more importantly, what would be the target market? If the loaded K2 is $1800 (kit), I am thinking that an upgraded (whatever that might be) K3 would at least be $3000 putting it into direct competition with these other radios in terms of price. ...And what would the selling feature be for a K3 compared to these other radios (remember, we are talking in terms of marketing). Clearly, not price. So just what would the motivation be for Elecraft to come out with a K3? I don't know! I think it would be neat to smoothly be able to conjoin a pair of K2's (either externally or within a single box). Some say N4PY and N1MM can effectively do that. When directly asked about such a feature, the boyz will even direct one to N4PY (at least they used to). But would that be a K3? Maybe. I think the dream of a K3 is something necessary to the group. I think the reality might be something different. I would love to be proven wrong de Doug KR2Q K2/5285 ala W3FPR ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
