Re: [Elecraft] Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?

[Pierfrancesco Caci]

On August 18, 2014 7:10:01 AM GMT+02:00, Wayne Burdick  
wrote:
>We're considering per-mode as well, but at the moment we're
>experimenting with per-band. Input welcome.
>
>Wayne
>
>On Aug 17, 2014, at 10:07 PM, Matt VK2RQ  wrote:
>
>> Would it make more sense for it to be per-mode rather than per-band?
>For example, I can imagine on CW you might want to zoom in more than on
>SSB. Maybe some P3 owners can comment?
>> 
>> 73, Matt VK2RQ
>> 
>>> On 18 Aug 2014, at 3:01 pm, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
>>> 
>>> We just added per-band SPAN settings to the PX3 (and will later add
>it to the P3). We're also adding a menu setting to quantize the SPAN
>selections to 2, 5, 10, 20, 50, 100, and 200 kHz. This behavior would
>be user-selectable; the default would be continuously variable, as it
>is at present.
>>> 
>>> For a lot of P3/PX3 users, the combination of these two changes will
>result in less manipulation of the SPAN control, and will save some Fn
>switches for other uses. 
>>> 
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR
>>> 
>>> 
 On Aug 17, 2014, at 9:45 PM, Jim Brown 
>wrote:
 
> On Sun,8/17/2014 7:18 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
> I'm still working at what the "ideal" span on my P3 would be, in
>the NAQP SSB yesterday, I had it at 100 KHz and it seemed pretty good.
 
 I have five of the function keys programmed for different span
>settings. The other three are Peak Toggle, Fixed Mode Toggle, and Noise
>Blanker Toggle.
 
 I use 2 kHz for looking at the quality of CW signals, 10 kHz for
>most CW pileups, 50 kHz, 100 kHz, and 200 kHz for contesting and
>general operating. I did have 20 kHz programmed, but gave that up for
>the NB toggle.
 
 Before each contest, I'll run through all the bands and set up the
>span and centering. 50/60 kHz is pretty good for Sprints and state QSO
>parties, 100 kHz is good for most CW contests, 200 kHz is not wide
>enough for some SSB contests.
 
 For 6M, I set a 200 kHz span from 50.080 to 50.280. This lets me
>see CW, SSB, and JT65.
 
 73, Jim K9YC
>>> 
>>> 
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Yes, I'd like it per mode.
Thanks,
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Re: [Elecraft] Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?

[Jim Brown]

On Sun,8/17/2014 10:01 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

We just added per-band SPAN settings to the PX3 (and will later add it to the 
P3). We're also adding a menu setting to quantize the SPAN selections to 2, 5, 
10, 20, 50, 100, and 200 kHz. This behavior would be user-selectable; the 
default would be continuously variable, as it is at present.


I like that a lot.

73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?

[iain macdonnell - N6ML]

On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 7:35 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:
>
>> At present the K3 has... let's call it an "oversight"... in the way
>> that it memorizes data sub-modes. It correctly memorizes the
>> last-used data sub-mode on each band, but not the bandwidth setting
>> appropriate to that sub-mode. Instead, the bandwidth settings for
>> *all* data sub-modes on *all* bands are overwritten by the settings
>> for whichever sub-mode was most recently used on *any* band. This is
>> often quite inappropriate, and inconvenient for anyone whose
>> interests cover a range of data sub-modes.
>>
>>
>> That problem needs to be fixed in the K3/KX3 firmware before moving
>> on to upgrade to automate the display settings of the P3 and the
>> PX3.
>
>
> Agreed - and one of those user interface issues to which I referred
> earlier in this thread.  DATA A and AFSK A/FSK D need separate default
> bandwidth (2.8 or 4 KHz for DATA A, 500 Hz for AFSK A/FSK D) and the
> last used BW/FC values need to be stored per sub-mode/band.

+1

73,

~iain / N6ML





> On 2014-08-18 10:10 AM, Ian White wrote:
>>
>> I would agree with that... but first, there is another point that needs
>> to be rationalized in the K3 (and, I presume, the KX3 also).
>>
>> DATA is not a single mode - it is only a "folder name" for a collection
>> of different data sub-modes. Many of those sub-modes require quite
>> different settings for the transceiver bandwidth and center frequency;
>> and that is equally true about the optimum bandwidths for a visual
>> display.
>>
>> At present the K3 has... let's call it an "oversight"... in the way that
>> it memorizes data sub-modes. It correctly memorizes the last-used data
>> sub-mode on each band, but not the bandwidth setting appropriate to that
>> sub-mode. Instead, the bandwidth settings for *all* data sub-modes on
>> *all* bands are overwritten by the settings for whichever sub-mode was
>> most recently used on *any* band. This is often quite inappropriate, and
>> inconvenient for anyone whose interests cover a range of data sub-modes.
>>
>>
>> That problem needs to be fixed in the K3/KX3 firmware before moving on
>> to upgrade to automate the display settings of the P3 and the PX3.
>>
>>
>> 73 from Ian GM3SEK
>>
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
>>
>> Joe
>>>
>>> Subich, W4TV
>>> Sent: 18 August 2014 13:17
>>> To: Wayne Burdick
>>> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2014-08-18 1:10 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We're considering per-mode as well,
>>>
>>>
>>> I agree that per mode is more valuable than per band.  I'm nearly
>>> always changing span when I change modes (10 KHz on CW, 20 KHz on
>>> data, 50 or 100 KHz on Phone) but not generally changing span with
>>> bands unless I've also changed mode.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> ... Joe, W4TV
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2014-08-18 1:10 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We're considering per-mode as well, but at the moment we're
>>>
>>> experimenting with per-band. Input welcome.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wayne
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 10:07 PM, Matt VK2RQ 
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Would it make more sense for it to be per-mode rather than per-band?
>>>
>>> For example, I can imagine on CW you might want to zoom in more than on
>>> SSB. Maybe some P3 owners can comment?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 73, Matt VK2RQ
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 18 Aug 2014, at 3:01 pm, Wayne Burdick 
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We just added per-band SPAN settings to the PX3 (and will later add
>>
>> it
>>>
>>> to the P3). We're also adding a menu setting to quantize the SPAN
>>> selections to 2, 5, 10, 20, 50, 100, and 200 kHz. This behavior would
>>
>> be user-
>>>
>>> selectable; the default would be continuously variable, as it is at
>>
>> present.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For a lot of P3/PX3 users, the combination o

Re: [Elecraft] Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

At present the K3 has... let's call it an "oversight"... in the way
that it memorizes data sub-modes. It correctly memorizes the
last-used data sub-mode on each band, but not the bandwidth setting
appropriate to that sub-mode. Instead, the bandwidth settings for
*all* data sub-modes on *all* bands are overwritten by the settings
for whichever sub-mode was most recently used on *any* band. This is
often quite inappropriate, and inconvenient for anyone whose
interests cover a range of data sub-modes.


That problem needs to be fixed in the K3/KX3 firmware before moving
on to upgrade to automate the display settings of the P3 and the
PX3.


Agreed - and one of those user interface issues to which I referred
earlier in this thread.  DATA A and AFSK A/FSK D need separate default
bandwidth (2.8 or 4 KHz for DATA A, 500 Hz for AFSK A/FSK D) and the
last used BW/FC values need to be stored per sub-mode/band.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2014-08-18 10:10 AM, Ian White wrote:

I would agree with that... but first, there is another point that needs
to be rationalized in the K3 (and, I presume, the KX3 also).

DATA is not a single mode - it is only a "folder name" for a collection
of different data sub-modes. Many of those sub-modes require quite
different settings for the transceiver bandwidth and center frequency;
and that is equally true about the optimum bandwidths for a visual
display.

At present the K3 has... let's call it an "oversight"... in the way that
it memorizes data sub-modes. It correctly memorizes the last-used data
sub-mode on each band, but not the bandwidth setting appropriate to that
sub-mode. Instead, the bandwidth settings for *all* data sub-modes on
*all* bands are overwritten by the settings for whichever sub-mode was
most recently used on *any* band. This is often quite inappropriate, and
inconvenient for anyone whose interests cover a range of data sub-modes.


That problem needs to be fixed in the K3/KX3 firmware before moving on
to upgrade to automate the display settings of the P3 and the PX3.


73 from Ian GM3SEK



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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of

Joe

Subich, W4TV
Sent: 18 August 2014 13:17
To: Wayne Burdick
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?


On 2014-08-18 1:10 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

We're considering per-mode as well,


I agree that per mode is more valuable than per band.  I'm nearly
always changing span when I change modes (10 KHz on CW, 20 KHz on
data, 50 or 100 KHz on Phone) but not generally changing span with
bands unless I've also changed mode.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 2014-08-18 1:10 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

We're considering per-mode as well, but at the moment we're

experimenting with per-band. Input welcome.


Wayne

On Aug 17, 2014, at 10:07 PM, Matt VK2RQ 

wrote:



Would it make more sense for it to be per-mode rather than per-band?

For example, I can imagine on CW you might want to zoom in more than on
SSB. Maybe some P3 owners can comment?


73, Matt VK2RQ


On 18 Aug 2014, at 3:01 pm, Wayne Burdick 

wrote:


We just added per-band SPAN settings to the PX3 (and will later add

it

to the P3). We're also adding a menu setting to quantize the SPAN
selections to 2, 5, 10, 20, 50, 100, and 200 kHz. This behavior would

be user-

selectable; the default would be continuously variable, as it is at

present.


For a lot of P3/PX3 users, the combination of these two changes

will

result in less manipulation of the SPAN control, and will save some Fn
switches for other uses.


Wayne
N6KR



On Aug 17, 2014, at 9:45 PM, Jim Brown

 wrote:



On Sun,8/17/2014 7:18 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
I'm still working at what the "ideal" span on my P3 would be, in

the

NAQP SSB yesterday, I had it at 100 KHz and it seemed pretty good.


I have five of the function keys programmed for different span

settings. The other three are Peak Toggle, Fixed Mode Toggle, and Noise
Blanker Toggle.


I use 2 kHz for looking at the quality of CW signals, 10 kHz for

most CW

pileups, 50 kHz, 100 kHz, and 200 kHz for contesting and general

operating.

I did have 20 kHz programmed, but gave that up for the NB toggle.


Before each contest, I'll run through all the bands and set up the

span

and centering. 50/60 kHz is pretty good for Sprints and state QSO

parties,

100 kHz is good for most CW contests, 200 kHz is not wide enough for

some

SSB contests.


For 6M, I set a 200 kHz span from 50.080 to 50.280. This lets me

see

CW, SSB, and JT65.


73, Jim K9YC






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Re: [Elecraft] Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?

[Ian White]

I would agree with that... but first, there is another point that needs
to be rationalized in the K3 (and, I presume, the KX3 also).

DATA is not a single mode - it is only a "folder name" for a collection
of different data sub-modes. Many of those sub-modes require quite
different settings for the transceiver bandwidth and center frequency;
and that is equally true about the optimum bandwidths for a visual
display.
 
At present the K3 has... let's call it an "oversight"... in the way that
it memorizes data sub-modes. It correctly memorizes the last-used data
sub-mode on each band, but not the bandwidth setting appropriate to that
sub-mode. Instead, the bandwidth settings for *all* data sub-modes on
*all* bands are overwritten by the settings for whichever sub-mode was
most recently used on *any* band. This is often quite inappropriate, and
inconvenient for anyone whose interests cover a range of data sub-modes.


That problem needs to be fixed in the K3/KX3 firmware before moving on
to upgrade to automate the display settings of the P3 and the PX3.


73 from Ian GM3SEK


>-Original Message-
>From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
Joe
>Subich, W4TV
>Sent: 18 August 2014 13:17
>To: Wayne Burdick
>Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?
>
>
>On 2014-08-18 1:10 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> > We're considering per-mode as well,
>
>I agree that per mode is more valuable than per band.  I'm nearly
>always changing span when I change modes (10 KHz on CW, 20 KHz on
>data, 50 or 100 KHz on Phone) but not generally changing span with
>bands unless I've also changed mode.
>
>73,
>
>... Joe, W4TV
>
>
>On 2014-08-18 1:10 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> We're considering per-mode as well, but at the moment we're
>experimenting with per-band. Input welcome.
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 10:07 PM, Matt VK2RQ 
>wrote:
>>
>>> Would it make more sense for it to be per-mode rather than per-band?
>For example, I can imagine on CW you might want to zoom in more than on
>SSB. Maybe some P3 owners can comment?
>>>
>>> 73, Matt VK2RQ
>>>
>>>> On 18 Aug 2014, at 3:01 pm, Wayne Burdick 
>wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We just added per-band SPAN settings to the PX3 (and will later add
it
>to the P3). We're also adding a menu setting to quantize the SPAN
>selections to 2, 5, 10, 20, 50, 100, and 200 kHz. This behavior would
be user-
>selectable; the default would be continuously variable, as it is at
present.
>>>>
>>>> For a lot of P3/PX3 users, the combination of these two changes
will
>result in less manipulation of the SPAN control, and will save some Fn
>switches for other uses.
>>>>
>>>> Wayne
>>>> N6KR
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 9:45 PM, Jim Brown
> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun,8/17/2014 7:18 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
>>>>>> I'm still working at what the "ideal" span on my P3 would be, in
the
>NAQP SSB yesterday, I had it at 100 KHz and it seemed pretty good.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have five of the function keys programmed for different span
>settings. The other three are Peak Toggle, Fixed Mode Toggle, and Noise
>Blanker Toggle.
>>>>>
>>>>> I use 2 kHz for looking at the quality of CW signals, 10 kHz for
most CW
>pileups, 50 kHz, 100 kHz, and 200 kHz for contesting and general
operating.
>I did have 20 kHz programmed, but gave that up for the NB toggle.
>>>>>
>>>>> Before each contest, I'll run through all the bands and set up the
span
>and centering. 50/60 kHz is pretty good for Sprints and state QSO
parties,
>100 kHz is good for most CW contests, 200 kHz is not wide enough for
some
>SSB contests.
>>>>>
>>>>> For 6M, I set a 200 kHz span from 50.080 to 50.280. This lets me
see
>CW, SSB, and JT65.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73, Jim K9YC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [Elecraft] Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?

[Nate Bargmann]

* On 2014 18 Aug 07:19 -0500, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
> 
> On 2014-08-18 1:10 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> > We're considering per-mode as well,
> 
> I agree that per mode is more valuable than per band.  I'm nearly
> always changing span when I change modes (10 KHz on CW, 20 KHz on
> data, 50 or 100 KHz on Phone) but not generally changing span with
> bands unless I've also changed mode.

Agreed.  I tend to run 20 kHz on phone and 7 to 10 kHz on CW as I'm
mostly interested in the signal I'm receiving and the adjaceant signals.
I typically do not change the spans when I change bands, only when
changing modes.

73, Nate, N0NB

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Re: [Elecraft] Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

On 2014-08-18 1:10 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> We're considering per-mode as well,

I agree that per mode is more valuable than per band.  I'm nearly
always changing span when I change modes (10 KHz on CW, 20 KHz on
data, 50 or 100 KHz on Phone) but not generally changing span with
bands unless I've also changed mode.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2014-08-18 1:10 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

We're considering per-mode as well, but at the moment we're experimenting with 
per-band. Input welcome.

Wayne

On Aug 17, 2014, at 10:07 PM, Matt VK2RQ  wrote:


Would it make more sense for it to be per-mode rather than per-band? For 
example, I can imagine on CW you might want to zoom in more than on SSB. Maybe 
some P3 owners can comment?

73, Matt VK2RQ


On 18 Aug 2014, at 3:01 pm, Wayne Burdick  wrote:

We just added per-band SPAN settings to the PX3 (and will later add it to the 
P3). We're also adding a menu setting to quantize the SPAN selections to 2, 5, 
10, 20, 50, 100, and 200 kHz. This behavior would be user-selectable; the 
default would be continuously variable, as it is at present.

For a lot of P3/PX3 users, the combination of these two changes will result in 
less manipulation of the SPAN control, and will save some Fn switches for other 
uses.

Wayne
N6KR



On Aug 17, 2014, at 9:45 PM, Jim Brown  wrote:


On Sun,8/17/2014 7:18 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
I'm still working at what the "ideal" span on my P3 would be, in the NAQP SSB 
yesterday, I had it at 100 KHz and it seemed pretty good.


I have five of the function keys programmed for different span settings. The 
other three are Peak Toggle, Fixed Mode Toggle, and Noise Blanker Toggle.

I use 2 kHz for looking at the quality of CW signals, 10 kHz for most CW 
pileups, 50 kHz, 100 kHz, and 200 kHz for contesting and general operating. I 
did have 20 kHz programmed, but gave that up for the NB toggle.

Before each contest, I'll run through all the bands and set up the span and 
centering. 50/60 kHz is pretty good for Sprints and state QSO parties, 100 kHz 
is good for most CW contests, 200 kHz is not wide enough for some SSB contests.

For 6M, I set a 200 kHz span from 50.080 to 50.280. This lets me see CW, SSB, 
and JT65.

73, Jim K9YC




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Re: [Elecraft] Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?

[Wayne Burdick]

We're considering per-mode as well, but at the moment we're experimenting with 
per-band. Input welcome.

Wayne

On Aug 17, 2014, at 10:07 PM, Matt VK2RQ  wrote:

> Would it make more sense for it to be per-mode rather than per-band? For 
> example, I can imagine on CW you might want to zoom in more than on SSB. 
> Maybe some P3 owners can comment?
> 
> 73, Matt VK2RQ
> 
>> On 18 Aug 2014, at 3:01 pm, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
>> 
>> We just added per-band SPAN settings to the PX3 (and will later add it to 
>> the P3). We're also adding a menu setting to quantize the SPAN selections to 
>> 2, 5, 10, 20, 50, 100, and 200 kHz. This behavior would be user-selectable; 
>> the default would be continuously variable, as it is at present.
>> 
>> For a lot of P3/PX3 users, the combination of these two changes will result 
>> in less manipulation of the SPAN control, and will save some Fn switches for 
>> other uses. 
>> 
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 9:45 PM, Jim Brown  wrote:
>>> 
 On Sun,8/17/2014 7:18 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
 I'm still working at what the "ideal" span on my P3 would be, in the NAQP 
 SSB yesterday, I had it at 100 KHz and it seemed pretty good.
>>> 
>>> I have five of the function keys programmed for different span settings. 
>>> The other three are Peak Toggle, Fixed Mode Toggle, and Noise Blanker 
>>> Toggle.
>>> 
>>> I use 2 kHz for looking at the quality of CW signals, 10 kHz for most CW 
>>> pileups, 50 kHz, 100 kHz, and 200 kHz for contesting and general operating. 
>>> I did have 20 kHz programmed, but gave that up for the NB toggle.
>>> 
>>> Before each contest, I'll run through all the bands and set up the span and 
>>> centering. 50/60 kHz is pretty good for Sprints and state QSO parties, 100 
>>> kHz is good for most CW contests, 200 kHz is not wide enough for some SSB 
>>> contests.
>>> 
>>> For 6M, I set a 200 kHz span from 50.080 to 50.280. This lets me see CW, 
>>> SSB, and JT65.
>>> 
>>> 73, Jim K9YC
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?

[Matt VK2RQ]

Would it make more sense for it to be per-mode rather than per-band? For 
example, I can imagine on CW you might want to zoom in more than on SSB. Maybe 
some P3 owners can comment?

73, Matt VK2RQ

> On 18 Aug 2014, at 3:01 pm, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> We just added per-band SPAN settings to the PX3 (and will later add it to the 
> P3). We're also adding a menu setting to quantize the SPAN selections to 2, 
> 5, 10, 20, 50, 100, and 200 kHz. This behavior would be user-selectable; the 
> default would be continuously variable, as it is at present.
> 
> For a lot of P3/PX3 users, the combination of these two changes will result 
> in less manipulation of the SPAN control, and will save some Fn switches for 
> other uses. 
> 
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 9:45 PM, Jim Brown  wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sun,8/17/2014 7:18 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
>>> I'm still working at what the "ideal" span on my P3 would be, in the NAQP 
>>> SSB yesterday, I had it at 100 KHz and it seemed pretty good.
>> 
>> I have five of the function keys programmed for different span settings. The 
>> other three are Peak Toggle, Fixed Mode Toggle, and Noise Blanker Toggle.
>> 
>> I use 2 kHz for looking at the quality of CW signals, 10 kHz for most CW 
>> pileups, 50 kHz, 100 kHz, and 200 kHz for contesting and general operating. 
>> I did have 20 kHz programmed, but gave that up for the NB toggle.
>> 
>> Before each contest, I'll run through all the bands and set up the span and 
>> centering. 50/60 kHz is pretty good for Sprints and state QSO parties, 100 
>> kHz is good for most CW contests, 200 kHz is not wide enough for some SSB 
>> contests.
>> 
>> For 6M, I set a 200 kHz span from 50.080 to 50.280. This lets me see CW, 
>> SSB, and JT65.
>> 
>> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?

[Wayne Burdick]

We just added per-band SPAN settings to the PX3 (and will later add it to the 
P3). We're also adding a menu setting to quantize the SPAN selections to 2, 5, 
10, 20, 50, 100, and 200 kHz. This behavior would be user-selectable; the 
default would be continuously variable, as it is at present.

For a lot of P3/PX3 users, the combination of these two changes will result in 
less manipulation of the SPAN control, and will save some Fn switches for other 
uses. 

Wayne
N6KR


On Aug 17, 2014, at 9:45 PM, Jim Brown  wrote:

> On Sun,8/17/2014 7:18 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
>> I'm still working at what the "ideal" span on my P3 would be, in the NAQP 
>> SSB yesterday, I had it at 100 KHz and it seemed pretty good. 
> 
> I have five of the function keys programmed for different span settings. The 
> other three are Peak Toggle, Fixed Mode Toggle, and Noise Blanker Toggle.
> 
> I use 2 kHz for looking at the quality of CW signals, 10 kHz for most CW 
> pileups, 50 kHz, 100 kHz, and 200 kHz for contesting and general operating. I 
> did have 20 kHz programmed, but gave that up for the NB toggle.
> 
> Before each contest, I'll run through all the bands and set up the span and 
> centering. 50/60 kHz is pretty good for Sprints and state QSO parties, 100 
> kHz is good for most CW contests, 200 kHz is not wide enough for some SSB 
> contests.
> 
> For 6M, I set a 200 kHz span from 50.080 to 50.280. This lets me see CW, SSB, 
> and JT65.
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC



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Re: [Elecraft] Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?

[Jim Brown]

On Sun,8/17/2014 7:18 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
I'm still working at what the "ideal" span on my P3 would be, in the 
NAQP SSB yesterday, I had it at 100 KHz and it seemed pretty good. 


I have five of the function keys programmed for different span settings. 
The other three are Peak Toggle, Fixed Mode Toggle, and Noise Blanker 
Toggle.


I use 2 kHz for looking at the quality of CW signals, 10 kHz for most CW 
pileups, 50 kHz, 100 kHz, and 200 kHz for contesting and general 
operating. I did have 20 kHz programmed, but gave that up for the NB 
toggle.


Before each contest, I'll run through all the bands and set up the span 
and centering. 50/60 kHz is pretty good for Sprints and state QSO 
parties, 100 kHz is good for most CW contests, 200 kHz is not wide 
enough for some SSB contests.


For 6M, I set a 200 kHz span from 50.080 to 50.280. This lets me see CW, 
SSB, and JT65.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?

[Fred Jensen]

I agree with you David, I think there are a lot of other things that 
would be much more useful to a much larger audience than receive-only SSTV.


I'm still working at what the "ideal" span on my P3 would be, in the 
NAQP SSB yesterday, I had it at 100 KHz and it seemed pretty good.  For 
CW, I have been running at 50 KHz because the signals are so much closer 
together ... I'll give CW a try at 100 KHz and see how that works.  My 
K3 is S/N 642, and I'm still playing around with how to use it and what 
to set things at.  Yet another new dimension to ham radio.


73,

Fred K6DGW
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- CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
- www.cqp.org

On 8/17/2014 3:37 PM, david Moes wrote:

I agree with those that would like to see TX monitoring and how about
wider range   it'd be handy for quick looks at say 10m for activity to
see 400 or 500 KHZ.

I do some SSTV and enjoy itI think there are more of us than you
think   and not just the fools on 14.230 sending soft porn. however   if
I want to play SSTV I am running MMSSTV anyway   that has good templates
sending and lots of function, ability to store images etc.I am not
sure just to add the ability to monitor incoming pictures would be a
good use of resources. unless you are planning to implement something
with MMSSTV's  level of capability.   adding more comprehensive
RTTY/psk  function or perhaps JT65/9  or even a simple logger so I don't
need to drag the the PC when outside the shack would be nice.just
pie in the sky thing there.




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Re: [Elecraft] Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?

[Wes (N7WS)]

Yes.  And if one of my pet peeves, lousy memory management, was addressed some 
of these features could simply be memorized and recalled.


Wes  N7WS

On 8/17/2014 10:30 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:


[snip]

There are a lot more UI and control improvements (separate VOX for SSB
and digital, separate default bandwidth for DATA A and AFSK A/FSK D,
ability to set a default "Norm" bandwidth for each mode other than the
roofing filter bandwidth, etc.) as well as improvements to the notch
(place manual notch outside the AGC loop) and noise blanker.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV



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Re: [Elecraft] Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?

[Charlie T, K3ICH]

Oh, you gotta try DXCC on 1.2GHz.

It the cat's meow and the bee's knees all rolled into one.

73, Chas


- Original Message - 
From: "Fred Jensen" 

To: "Elecraft Reflector" 
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?


Just offering observations in answer to Wayne's questions.  SSTV is not 
one of the modes I use.  Neither is EME, PSK31, and DXCC on 1.2 GHz.


73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
- www.cqp.org

On 8/17/2014 7:44 AM, george fritkin wrote:

I will say it one more time.there are more hams trying for DXCC
on 1.2GHZ than operate SSTV
George, W6GF


On Sunday, August 17, 2014 6:01 AM, Fred Jensen  
wrote:



On 8/15/2014 2:56 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
 > Hi all,
 >
 > Is SSTV demodulation/display something we should add to the long term
 > wish-list for our panadapters? I hear SSTV signals in the 20-meter
 > SSB segment pretty regularly, and I think it would be nice to
 > eavesdrop on the visuals, in living color, with all the HF-induced
 > idiosyncrasies. But we won't bother with this if I'm the only one
 > who's interested.

You might try MMSSTV or MixW and just monitor 14230 for awhile before
putting any engineering effort into it.  I let MixW run on 14230 all one
weekend and then went back and looked at some of the images [MixW saves
all received images].  A surprising number [like half] were unanswered
CQ's with pictures of scantily clad women.  I haven't checked it in a
number of years.

There are some digital SSTV signals starting around 14233 or so ... I
don't know anything about them.
 >
 > If we did consider adding SSTV, we'd need to decide which SSTV
 > format(s) to support. If there's just one that's reasonably
 > universal, great. I'm pretty sure we'd start with just one, given
 > limited engineering time.

There's a half dozen or more analog modes, most of what I decoded was
one of the Scottie's [there are several].  I suspect that, to be
attractive, your software would need to decode the digital burst at the
beginning and auto-select the mode like MixW does.

We all get to use whatever modes we want ... personally, I was bored by
SSTV and haven't looked at it in years.  YMMV however.

73,

Fred K6DGW
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- CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
- www.cqp.org



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Re: [Elecraft] Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

I doubt it unless the K3 is modified to accept computer graphics files
and generate the SSTV audio.  There is a big difference between CW,
RTTY and PSK31 decode when one can transmit paddle CW/RTTY/PSK and
SSTV decode when there is no matching SSTV generation capability.

There are a lot more UI and control improvements (separate VOX for SSB
and digital, separate default bandwidth for DATA A and AFSK A/FSK D,
ability to set a default "Norm" bandwidth for each mode other than the
roofing filter bandwidth, etc.) as well as improvements to the notch
(place manual notch outside the AGC loop) and noise blanker.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2014-08-17 12:56 PM, David Cole wrote:

I also would like this...  :)  I bet it will sell radios!


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Re: [Elecraft] Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?

[David Heinsohn]

  While I'd rather have an XV900 and XV1200, SSTV that was easy to use 
would be nice too.  I've already been lamb blasted by the list for 
suggesting that Wayne and company broaden the XV series.  For some folks 
if it's not about cw/ssb on HF, Wayne should not waste his time.  For 
others of us trying new freq's and modes is part of the fun.


  Wayne, if it interests you, go for it!  If you offer it at least 
some of us will buy it!


de
David
Who only owns:
K2 (full house), KX3, XV50, 144,220,432, K1 (unbuilt), and all the 
mini's and test equipment Elecraft makes


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Re: [Elecraft] Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?

[David Cole]

I also would like this...  :)  I bet it will sell radios!
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On Sat, 2014-08-16 at 15:31 -0700, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
> I would love to see this
> 
> as a Long time SSTV Fan this is a very nice feature
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: David G4DMP 
> To: Wayne Burdick  
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
> Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 2:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?
>  
> 
> That is really good news :-)
> 
> 73 de David G4DMP
> 
> In a recent message, Wayne Burdick  writes
> >In the works as we speak.
> >
> >Wayne
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?

[Fred Jensen]

Just offering observations in answer to Wayne's questions.  SSTV is not 
one of the modes I use.  Neither is EME, PSK31, and DXCC on 1.2 GHz.


73,

Fred K6DGW
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- CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
- www.cqp.org

On 8/17/2014 7:44 AM, george fritkin wrote:

I will say it one more time.there are more hams trying for DXCC
on 1.2GHZ than operate SSTV
George, W6GF


On Sunday, August 17, 2014 6:01 AM, Fred Jensen  wrote:


On 8/15/2014 2:56 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
 > Hi all,
 >
 > Is SSTV demodulation/display something we should add to the long term
 > wish-list for our panadapters? I hear SSTV signals in the 20-meter
 > SSB segment pretty regularly, and I think it would be nice to
 > eavesdrop on the visuals, in living color, with all the HF-induced
 > idiosyncrasies. But we won't bother with this if I'm the only one
 > who's interested.

You might try MMSSTV or MixW and just monitor 14230 for awhile before
putting any engineering effort into it.  I let MixW run on 14230 all one
weekend and then went back and looked at some of the images [MixW saves
all received images].  A surprising number [like half] were unanswered
CQ's with pictures of scantily clad women.  I haven't checked it in a
number of years.

There are some digital SSTV signals starting around 14233 or so ... I
don't know anything about them.
 >
 > If we did consider adding SSTV, we'd need to decide which SSTV
 > format(s) to support. If there's just one that's reasonably
 > universal, great. I'm pretty sure we'd start with just one, given
 > limited engineering time.

There's a half dozen or more analog modes, most of what I decoded was
one of the Scottie's [there are several].  I suspect that, to be
attractive, your software would need to decode the digital burst at the
beginning and auto-select the mode like MixW does.

We all get to use whatever modes we want ... personally, I was bored by
SSTV and haven't looked at it in years.  YMMV however.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
- www.cqp.org



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Re: [Elecraft] Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?

[george fritkin via Elecraft]

I will say it one more time.there are more hams trying for DXCC on 
1.2GHZ than operate SSTV
 
George, W6GF 


On Sunday, August 17, 2014 6:01 AM, Fred Jensen  wrote:
  


On 8/15/2014 2:56 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Is SSTV demodulation/display something we should add to the long term
> wish-list for our panadapters? I hear SSTV signals in the 20-meter
> SSB segment pretty regularly, and I think it would be nice to
> eavesdrop on the visuals, in living color, with all the HF-induced
> idiosyncrasies. But we won't bother with this if I'm the only one
> who's interested.

You might try MMSSTV or MixW and just monitor 14230 for awhile before 
putting any engineering effort into it.  I let MixW run on 14230 all one 
weekend and then went back and looked at some of the images [MixW saves 
all received images].  A surprising number [like half] were unanswered 
CQ's with pictures of scantily clad women.  I haven't checked it in a 
number of years.

There are some digital SSTV signals starting around 14233 or so ... I 
don't know anything about them.
>
> If we did consider adding SSTV, we'd need to decide which SSTV
> format(s) to support. If there's just one that's reasonably
> universal, great. I'm pretty sure we'd start with just one, given
> limited engineering time.

There's a half dozen or more analog modes, most of what I decoded was 
one of the Scottie's [there are several].  I suspect that, to be 
attractive, your software would need to decode the digital burst at the 
beginning and auto-select the mode like MixW does.

We all get to use whatever modes we want ... personally, I was bored by 
SSTV and haven't looked at it in years.  YMMV however.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
- www.cqp.org

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Re: [Elecraft] Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?

[Harry Yingst via Elecraft]

I would love to see this

as a Long time SSTV Fan this is a very nice feature







 From: David G4DMP 
To: Wayne Burdick  
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 2:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?
 

That is really good news :-)

73 de David G4DMP

In a recent message, Wayne Burdick  writes
>In the works as we speak.
>
>Wayne

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Re: [Elecraft] Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?

[David G4DMP]

That is really good news :-)

73 de David G4DMP

In a recent message, Wayne Burdick  writes
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>
>Wayne

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Re: [Elecraft] Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?

[David G4DMP]

In a recent message, Wayne Burdick  writes
>Is SSTV demodulation/display something we should add to the long term
>wish-list for our panadapters?

Oo, yes please, Wayne, I like the idea of using a K3/KX3 without having
to rely on a computer being used and hence adding to the ever increasing
ambient noise level.  But I thought SSTV was already on the long term
wish list as it was discussed several years ago?  I would be pleased to
alpha test this when you're ready.

In anticipation, 73

David G4DMP

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Re: [Elecraft] Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?

[Dave Jones]

I'm with you Wayne although it looks like we are very much the minority at this 
time. I would really like to have SSTV added to the P3.

Tx monitoring would good too.
Dave VK4FD

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Re: [Elecraft] Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?

[Gary Gregory]

Wayne,

Whew, hope it's not too far away.

Thanks for the news.

Gary


On 16 August 2014 10:02, Wayne Burdick  wrote:

> In the works as we speak.
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> Wayne
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> Gary Gregory  wrote:
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> > Whatever happened to the RF Sensor?
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Re: [Elecraft] Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?

[Wayne Burdick]

In the works as we speak.

Wayne


Gary Gregory  wrote:

> Whatever happened to the RF Sensor?
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Re: [Elecraft] Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?

[Nr4c]

Is like to see this, but
I'd rather not have work on other updates like something to put in the "Sensor" 
hole in my P3 and others. 

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...nr4c. bill


> On Aug 15, 2014, at 5:56 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Is SSTV demodulation/display something we should add to the long term 
> wish-list for our panadapters? I hear SSTV signals in the 20-meter SSB 
> segment pretty regularly, and I think it would be nice to eavesdrop on the 
> visuals, in living color, with all the HF-induced idiosyncrasies. But we 
> won't bother with this if I'm the only one who's interested.
> 
> If we did consider adding SSTV, we'd need to decide which SSTV format(s) to 
> support. If there's just one that's reasonably universal, great. I'm pretty 
> sure we'd start with just one, given limited engineering time.
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
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Re: [Elecraft] Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?

[Mike Reublin]

I'd rather see the long ago promised enhancement to separate VOX in SSB from 
VOX in Data modes.

73, Mike NF4L
 
On Aug 15, 2014, at 7:21 PM, Fred Jensen  wrote:

> The capability to see my transmitted signal would be really great, much more 
> useful than SSTV, at least for me.  Probably very hard to do with the PX3.  
> Probably also harder than many think with a K-Line because you want to see 
> what's heading up the coax, not something from inside the K3.  But it would 
> be a cool addition for me.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Fred K6DGW
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> On 8/15/2014 2:56 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Is SSTV demodulation/display something we should add to the long term
>> wish-list for our panadapters? I hear SSTV signals in the 20-meter
>> SSB segment pretty regularly, and I think it would be nice to
>> eavesdrop on the visuals, in living color, with all the HF-induced
>> idiosyncrasies. But we won't bother with this if I'm the only one
>> who's interested.
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Re: [Elecraft] Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?

[Fred Jensen]

The capability to see my transmitted signal would be really great, much 
more useful than SSTV, at least for me.  Probably very hard to do with 
the PX3.  Probably also harder than many think with a K-Line because you 
want to see what's heading up the coax, not something from inside the 
K3.  But it would be a cool addition for me.


73,

Fred K6DGW
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- CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
- www.cqp.org

On 8/15/2014 2:56 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

Hi all,

Is SSTV demodulation/display something we should add to the long term
wish-list for our panadapters? I hear SSTV signals in the 20-meter
SSB segment pretty regularly, and I think it would be nice to
eavesdrop on the visuals, in living color, with all the HF-induced
idiosyncrasies. But we won't bother with this if I'm the only one
who's interested.


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Re: [Elecraft] Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?

[Gary Gregory]

Whatever happened to the RF Sensor?

Gary
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On 16/08/2014 8:55 AM, "XE3/K5ENS via Elecraft" 
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> How about being one of the first to implement FreeDV?
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Re: [Elecraft] Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?

[XE3/K5ENS via Elecraft]

How about being one of the first to implement FreeDV?


Keith



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Re: [Elecraft] Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?

[Fred Jensen]

On 8/15/2014 2:56 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

Hi all,

Is SSTV demodulation/display something we should add to the long term
wish-list for our panadapters? I hear SSTV signals in the 20-meter
SSB segment pretty regularly, and I think it would be nice to
eavesdrop on the visuals, in living color, with all the HF-induced
idiosyncrasies. But we won't bother with this if I'm the only one
who's interested.


You might try MMSSTV or MixW and just monitor 14230 for awhile before 
putting any engineering effort into it.  I let MixW run on 14230 all one 
weekend and then went back and looked at some of the images [MixW saves 
all received images].  A surprising number [like half] were unanswered 
CQ's with pictures of scantily clad women.  I haven't checked it in a 
number of years.


There are some digital SSTV signals starting around 14233 or so ... I 
don't know anything about them.


If we did consider adding SSTV, we'd need to decide which SSTV
format(s) to support. If there's just one that's reasonably
universal, great. I'm pretty sure we'd start with just one, given
limited engineering time.


There's a half dozen or more analog modes, most of what I decoded was 
one of the Scottie's [there are several].  I suspect that, to be 
attractive, your software would need to decode the digital burst at the 
beginning and auto-select the mode like MixW does.


We all get to use whatever modes we want ... personally, I was bored by 
SSTV and haven't looked at it in years.  YMMV however.


73,

Fred K6DGW
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Re: [Elecraft] Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?

[XE3/K5ENS via Elecraft]

I would like to see the NB added to the P3SVGA first.


Keith



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Re: [Elecraft] Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?

[Jeff Stai]

On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:

> Is SSTV demodulation/display something we should add to the long term
> wish-list for our panadapters?


hi Wayne - If you were to do decoding/processing like that, I'd much rather
see an extended form of RTTY decode. The decode on the K3 front panel is
cool for computer-less work, but as soon as you have a computer it becomes
less useful.

This is from a serious contesting perspective. When I'm running I'm using
several screens to pull out marginal signals. Those screens buffer the
decoded text long enough for me to look at all of them and make a decision
about what is correct. By this time the small display on the K3 has
scrolled away.

If on the other hand you had an overlay of text** on the P3 display I now
have it buffered long enough to add it to my decision path as another set
of data from a decoder that has different characteristics than my other
decoders (MMTTY, 2Tone, hardware modems, etc.)

A feature like this would seem to have a broader audience than for SSTV,
but perhaps I'm partial...;)

** I would overlay the display with white text over the color waterfall so
that I can still see waterfall history behind the text. I want it all.

thanks and 73 jeff wk6i


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Re: [Elecraft] Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?

[Wes (N7WS)]

Perhaps it's different people involved in programming, but I would like to see 
instead of this, some effort put into making the K3 memories actually remember 
and recall what was input to them.


Wes  N7WS



On 8/15/2014 2:56 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

Hi all,

Is SSTV demodulation/display something we should add to the long term wish-list 
for our panadapters? I hear SSTV signals in the 20-meter SSB segment pretty 
regularly, and I think it would be nice to eavesdrop on the visuals, in living 
color, with all the HF-induced idiosyncrasies. But we won't bother with this if 
I'm the only one who's interested.

If we did consider adding SSTV, we'd need to decide which SSTV format(s) to 
support. If there's just one that's reasonably universal, great. I'm pretty 
sure we'd start with just one, given limited engineering time.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


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