Re: [Emc-users] single board computer
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 12:58 AM, a k wrote: > for last 10 years developer put a lot of time to make emc2-linuxcnc to run > on ubuntu. now ubuntu gone so all those efforts. for how long Debian will > there? > single board always will be there. > can single board comp. run closed loop- ac-servo motors? > can single board comp. use existing hardware -boards- etc? > > how far in the future linuxcnc on single board computer. (closed loop + > servo motor+ use existing board) month or years away? > Doesn't look gone to me: http://www.ubuntu.com/ Pretty sure one of the most popular Open Source OS's isn't going to go away any time soon. Ubuntu, BTW, is based on Debian. Mark -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 2.6.4---2.5.4
On Sat, 22 Nov 2014, a k wrote:
> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 16:04:20 -0800
> From: a k
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> Subject: [Emc-users] 2.6.4---2.5.4
>
> hi
> i fund that i have bigger problem.
> 2.6.4 does not work as 2.5.4
> i just check before typing this
>
> When i start 2.5.4 - open CNC (my is 5i20)
> than F1, and F2.
> after that i can pick axis like X Y Z and pick increment
>
> with 2.6.4 it does not work like that
> Here is how it works on my computer
> Pick interface. mesa- 5i20
> CNC open
> than F1.
> than F2 - and when i pick F2 machine start move on continues feed every
> time i pick F2..
> i can not pick - change axis they are frozen .
> Every time click on F2 result in motion of X axis and fallowing error. -can
> not change axis - nothing - all axis are -frozen
> i pick MDI and i can not type in nothing it froze also.
>
> does any one have similar situation with 2.6.4?
>
> i burn it of DVD - how i can verify that it is good copy?
Did you copy your working hal and ini files to the new system
and launch linuxcnc using your working files?
>
> thanks
> aram
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Re: [Emc-users] single board computer
Aram, LinuxCNC will never run without an OS. Modern single board computers like the BeagleBoneBlack run full OS's like Ubuntu and Debian. LinuxCNC/Machinekit run on top of the OS, along with a real-time extension. The BBB version of LinuxCNC works fine for driving stepper motors, but cannot yet handle closed-loop servo systems very well, as encoder pulse counting is too slow. Eventually there should be Mesa or Pico type hardware add-ons that offload encoder pulse counting to make servo control possible. I have to emphasize that Machinekit is still very "bleeding edge", and you would be well advised to stick with x86 motherboards and straight LinuxCNC for another year for your machine projects. -- Ralph From: a k [pccncmach...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 9:58 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] single board computer for last 10 years developer put a lot of time to make emc2-linuxcnc to run on ubuntu. now ubuntu gone so all those efforts. for how long Debian will there? single board always will be there. can single board comp. run closed loop- ac-servo motors? can single board comp. use existing hardware -boards- etc? how far in the future linuxcnc on single board computer. (closed loop + servo motor+ use existing board) month or years away? On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > On 11/22/2014 08:06 PM, a k wrote: > > this week i learned about of single board computer. and some idea about > how > > to program it how it works. > > just interesting if it be possible to run linuxcnc on single board > computer? > > i understand that it will only linuxcnc - no internet, no any word > > processor etc. > > trade of - loose something to gain something. > > maybe just buy single board computer with linuxcnc already on it. > > i think that single board computer cost less than $100., but one knows > that > > it works fo sure > > > The Beagle Bone runs Machinekit, which is a branch of > LinuxCNC. It is a $55 board > with everything on it, including Ethernet and USB. There > are "capes" which plug onto > it to hold stepper drivers and other I/O stuff. It is often > used for 3D printers, but > could also run a small mill or router. Since it runs a full > Linux implementation, you > can run anything you want on it, in addition to the LinuxCNC > version that comes with > Machinekit. > > Jon > > > -- > Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server > from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards > with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more > Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] single board computer
i learned about single board computer on local --meetup-- group where enthusiast helping eachother to learn to program small boards ardinary etc and single board computer. i think that major manufacturer of single board computer -texas instrument. technology getting more powerful with every moth/weeks and their cost is good. i think, because price of single board computer is ok than hardware manufacturer for linuxcnc may very well incorporate single board computer with there hardware and offer finish working controller. will it make linuxcnc more robust system for final user/machine shop? aram On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 7:49 AM, Ralph Stirling < ralph.stirl...@wallawalla.edu> wrote: > Aram, > > LinuxCNC will never run without an OS. Modern single > board computers like the BeagleBoneBlack run full OS's > like Ubuntu and Debian. LinuxCNC/Machinekit run on > top of the OS, along with a real-time extension. > > The BBB version of LinuxCNC works fine for driving > stepper motors, but cannot yet handle closed-loop > servo systems very well, as encoder pulse counting is > too slow. Eventually there should be Mesa or Pico type > hardware add-ons that offload encoder pulse counting > to make servo control possible. I have to emphasize > that Machinekit is still very "bleeding edge", and you > would be well advised to stick with x86 motherboards > and straight LinuxCNC for another year for your machine > projects. > > -- Ralph > > From: a k [pccncmach...@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 9:58 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] single board computer > > for last 10 years developer put a lot of time to make emc2-linuxcnc to run > on ubuntu. now ubuntu gone so all those efforts. for how long Debian will > there? > single board always will be there. > can single board comp. run closed loop- ac-servo motors? > can single board comp. use existing hardware -boards- etc? > > how far in the future linuxcnc on single board computer. (closed loop + > servo motor+ use existing board) month or years away? > > > > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > > > On 11/22/2014 08:06 PM, a k wrote: > > > this week i learned about of single board computer. and some idea about > > how > > > to program it how it works. > > > just interesting if it be possible to run linuxcnc on single board > > computer? > > > i understand that it will only linuxcnc - no internet, no any word > > > processor etc. > > > trade of - loose something to gain something. > > > maybe just buy single board computer with linuxcnc already on it. > > > i think that single board computer cost less than $100., but one knows > > that > > > it works fo sure > > > > > The Beagle Bone runs Machinekit, which is a branch of > > LinuxCNC. It is a $55 board > > with everything on it, including Ethernet and USB. There > > are "capes" which plug onto > > it to hold stepper drivers and other I/O stuff. It is often > > used for 3D printers, but > > could also run a small mill or router. Since it runs a full > > Linux implementation, you > > can run anything you want on it, in addition to the LinuxCNC > > version that comes with > > Machinekit. > > > > Jon > > > > > > > -- > > Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server > > from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards > > with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more > > Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE > > > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > ___ > > Emc-users mailing list > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > -- > Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server > from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards > with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more > Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > -- > Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server > from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards > with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more > Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > ___
Re: [Emc-users] 2.6.4---2.5.4
hi
i try and got same problem with live CD no installation--
even without any installation.
than i try 2.5.4 and total different result.
Problem is that when i click F1 - off e-stop, i should be able to pick axis
-- X Y Z, able to type in in MDI , AND after i push F2 machine power up and
after i click on Y axis jog - (any increment ) tham machine should move.
that is how 2.5.4 works on my computer.
And on my computer for 2.6.4 nothig is same.
in live CD - F1 - e-stop off ,and i can no pick axis X Y Z they are frozen
not pickable, and i can open MDI but i CAN NOT type there anything.
Yesterday i did see that 2.6.5 -- already there. i copy it and try it. same
result as with 2.6.4-- no difference.
it can not be that only i have this problem. maybe not many try 2.6.5
why do i have this problem?
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 7:00 AM, Peter C. Wallace wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Nov 2014, a k wrote:
>
> > Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 16:04:20 -0800
> > From: a k
> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> >
> > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >
> > Subject: [Emc-users] 2.6.4---2.5.4
> >
> > hi
> > i fund that i have bigger problem.
> > 2.6.4 does not work as 2.5.4
> > i just check before typing this
> >
> > When i start 2.5.4 - open CNC (my is 5i20)
> > than F1, and F2.
> > after that i can pick axis like X Y Z and pick increment
> >
> > with 2.6.4 it does not work like that
> > Here is how it works on my computer
> > Pick interface. mesa- 5i20
> > CNC open
> > than F1.
> > than F2 - and when i pick F2 machine start move on continues feed every
> > time i pick F2..
> > i can not pick - change axis they are frozen .
> > Every time click on F2 result in motion of X axis and fallowing error.
> -can
> > not change axis - nothing - all axis are -frozen
> > i pick MDI and i can not type in nothing it froze also.
> >
> > does any one have similar situation with 2.6.4?
> >
> > i burn it of DVD - how i can verify that it is good copy?
>
>
> Did you copy your working hal and ini files to the new system
> and launch linuxcnc using your working files?
>
> >
> > thanks
> > aram
> >
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Re: [Emc-users] 2.6.4---2.5.4
On Sunday 23 November 2014 14:12:38 a k did opine
And Gene did reply:
> hi
> i try and got same problem with live CD no installation--
> even without any installation.
> than i try 2.5.4 and total different result.
> Problem is that when i click F1 - off e-stop, i should be able to pick
> axis -- X Y Z, able to type in in MDI , AND after i push F2 machine
> power up and after i click on Y axis jog - (any increment ) tham
> machine should move. that is how 2.5.4 works on my computer.
> And on my computer for 2.6.4 nothig is same.
> in live CD - F1 - e-stop off ,and i can no pick axis X Y Z they are
> frozen not pickable, and i can open MDI but i CAN NOT type there
> anything.
>
> Yesterday i did see that 2.6.5 -- already there. i copy it and try it.
> same result as with 2.6.4-- no difference.
>
> it can not be that only i have this problem. maybe not many try 2.6.5
> why do i have this problem?
Because, since I have been using LCNC, starting at about 2.0.0 it has
always been a 2 step process to enable the machinery.
You have always had to press F1 once and F2 once, F1 gets it out of its
default e-stop startup, but it then takes an F2 press to actually enable
the machine.
Be aware that many modern keyboards now default to an Fkey disabled state
at powerup. You can identify those keyboards by their having a key or
button labeled F, which when pressed, will enable the Fkeys until the next
power up, or they can be disabled again by a second tap on the F key.
> On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 7:00 AM, Peter C. Wallace
wrote:
> > On Sat, 22 Nov 2014, a k wrote:
> > > Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 16:04:20 -0800
> > > From: a k
> > > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> > > > >
> > > Subject: [Emc-users] 2.6.4---2.5.4
> > >
> > > hi
> > > i fund that i have bigger problem.
> > > 2.6.4 does not work as 2.5.4
> > > i just check before typing this
> > >
> > > When i start 2.5.4 - open CNC (my is 5i20)
> > > than F1, and F2.
> > > after that i can pick axis like X Y Z and pick increment
> > >
> > > with 2.6.4 it does not work like that
> > > Here is how it works on my computer
> > > Pick interface. mesa- 5i20
> > > CNC open
> > > than F1.
> > > than F2 - and when i pick F2 machine start move on continues feed
> > > every time i pick F2..
> > > i can not pick - change axis they are frozen .
> > > Every time click on F2 result in motion of X axis and fallowing
> > > error.
> >
> > -can
> >
> > > not change axis - nothing - all axis are -frozen
> > > i pick MDI and i can not type in nothing it froze also.
> > >
> > > does any one have similar situation with 2.6.4?
> > >
Not here. This makes me ask what keyboard emulation you are using?
Its within the realm of possible that the wrong keyboard translation is
doing something it should not be done, but that is just a SWAG on my part.
> > > i burn it of DVD - how i can verify that it is good copy?
I believe the site where you downloaded the disk image from should have a
downloadable md5sum or possibly an sha1sum and doing the same sum
operation on your disk would prove its integrity.
.
> > Did you copy your working hal and ini files to the new system
> > and launch linuxcnc using your working files?
> >
This is very important, if not you will have to start the configuration
from scratch.
> > > thanks
> > > aram
> >
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Re: [Emc-users] 2.6.4---2.5.4
i did try 2.6.4 and 2.6.5 on another computer and i even can not it start
and here is error
Debug file information:
.
Error: could not insert module
/usr/realtime-3.4-9-rtai-686-pae/modules/linuxcnc/hm2_pci.ko: No such device
hm2-servo.hal:46: exit value: 1
hm2-servo.hal:46: insmod failed, returned -1
See the output of 'dmesg' for more information.
4624
PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND
Stopping realtime threads
Unloading hal components
//
did any one actually using 2.6.4?
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 7:12 PM, a k wrote:
> hi
> i try and got same problem with live CD no installation--
> even without any installation.
> than i try 2.5.4 and total different result.
> Problem is that when i click F1 - off e-stop, i should be able to pick
> axis -- X Y Z, able to type in in MDI , AND after i push F2 machine power
> up and after i click on Y axis jog - (any increment ) tham machine should
> move.
> that is how 2.5.4 works on my computer.
> And on my computer for 2.6.4 nothig is same.
> in live CD - F1 - e-stop off ,and i can no pick axis X Y Z they are frozen
> not pickable, and i can open MDI but i CAN NOT type there anything.
>
> Yesterday i did see that 2.6.5 -- already there. i copy it and try it.
> same result as with 2.6.4-- no difference.
>
> it can not be that only i have this problem. maybe not many try 2.6.5
> why do i have this problem?
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 7:00 AM, Peter C. Wallace wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 22 Nov 2014, a k wrote:
>>
>> > Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 16:04:20 -0800
>> > From: a k
>> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>> >
>> > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <
>> emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
>> > Subject: [Emc-users] 2.6.4---2.5.4
>> >
>> > hi
>> > i fund that i have bigger problem.
>> > 2.6.4 does not work as 2.5.4
>> > i just check before typing this
>> >
>> > When i start 2.5.4 - open CNC (my is 5i20)
>> > than F1, and F2.
>> > after that i can pick axis like X Y Z and pick increment
>> >
>> > with 2.6.4 it does not work like that
>> > Here is how it works on my computer
>> > Pick interface. mesa- 5i20
>> > CNC open
>> > than F1.
>> > than F2 - and when i pick F2 machine start move on continues feed every
>> > time i pick F2..
>> > i can not pick - change axis they are frozen .
>> > Every time click on F2 result in motion of X axis and fallowing error.
>> -can
>> > not change axis - nothing - all axis are -frozen
>> > i pick MDI and i can not type in nothing it froze also.
>> >
>> > does any one have similar situation with 2.6.4?
>> >
>> > i burn it of DVD - how i can verify that it is good copy?
>>
>>
>> Did you copy your working hal and ini files to the new system
>> and launch linuxcnc using your working files?
>>
>> >
>> > thanks
>> > aram
>> >
>> --
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Re: [Emc-users] 2.6.4---2.5.4
Aram See below Problem is that when i click F1 - off e-stop, i should be able to pick axis -- X Y Z, able to type in in MDI , AND after i push F2 machine power up and after i click on Y axis jog - (any increment ) tham machine should move. that is how 2.5.4 works on my computer. And on my computer for 2.6.4 nothig is same. in live CD - F1 - e-stop off ,and i can no pick axis X Y Z they are frozen not pickable, and i can open MDI but i CAN NOT type there anything. -- I do not know what you mean by "pick axis -- X, Y, Z" but your workflow with f1 and f2 is unusual. Most people clear the Reset/Estop (f1) and the immediately "Power up the control" (f2). Then you can Home, issue MDI commands, keyboard jog etc. Attempting anything before Power Up (f2) is not expected to work - perhaps some things did with 2.5.4 and this is the confusion. I don't have a setup to try this at present. 2.6.4 works fine for me (using the f1, f2 workflow described above). John Prentice -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 2.6.4---2.5.4
all works ok on 2.5.4 than why it does not work for 2.6.5?
if problem with key board than why it work for 2.5.4?
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Sunday 23 November 2014 14:12:38 a k did opine
> And Gene did reply:
> > hi
> > i try and got same problem with live CD no installation--
> > even without any installation.
> > than i try 2.5.4 and total different result.
> > Problem is that when i click F1 - off e-stop, i should be able to pick
> > axis -- X Y Z, able to type in in MDI , AND after i push F2 machine
> > power up and after i click on Y axis jog - (any increment ) tham
> > machine should move. that is how 2.5.4 works on my computer.
> > And on my computer for 2.6.4 nothig is same.
> > in live CD - F1 - e-stop off ,and i can no pick axis X Y Z they are
> > frozen not pickable, and i can open MDI but i CAN NOT type there
> > anything.
> >
> > Yesterday i did see that 2.6.5 -- already there. i copy it and try it.
> > same result as with 2.6.4-- no difference.
> >
> > it can not be that only i have this problem. maybe not many try 2.6.5
> > why do i have this problem?
>
> Because, since I have been using LCNC, starting at about 2.0.0 it has
> always been a 2 step process to enable the machinery.
>
> You have always had to press F1 once and F2 once, F1 gets it out of its
> default e-stop startup, but it then takes an F2 press to actually enable
> the machine.
>
> Be aware that many modern keyboards now default to an Fkey disabled state
> at powerup. You can identify those keyboards by their having a key or
> button labeled F, which when pressed, will enable the Fkeys until the next
> power up, or they can be disabled again by a second tap on the F key.
>
> > On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 7:00 AM, Peter C. Wallace
> wrote:
> > > On Sat, 22 Nov 2014, a k wrote:
> > > > Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 16:04:20 -0800
> > > > From: a k
> > > > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> > > > > > >
> > > > Subject: [Emc-users] 2.6.4---2.5.4
> > > >
> > > > hi
> > > > i fund that i have bigger problem.
> > > > 2.6.4 does not work as 2.5.4
> > > > i just check before typing this
> > > >
> > > > When i start 2.5.4 - open CNC (my is 5i20)
> > > > than F1, and F2.
> > > > after that i can pick axis like X Y Z and pick increment
> > > >
> > > > with 2.6.4 it does not work like that
> > > > Here is how it works on my computer
> > > > Pick interface. mesa- 5i20
> > > > CNC open
> > > > than F1.
> > > > than F2 - and when i pick F2 machine start move on continues feed
> > > > every time i pick F2..
> > > > i can not pick - change axis they are frozen .
> > > > Every time click on F2 result in motion of X axis and fallowing
> > > > error.
> > >
> > > -can
> > >
> > > > not change axis - nothing - all axis are -frozen
> > > > i pick MDI and i can not type in nothing it froze also.
> > > >
> > > > does any one have similar situation with 2.6.4?
> > > >
> Not here. This makes me ask what keyboard emulation you are using?
>
> Its within the realm of possible that the wrong keyboard translation is
> doing something it should not be done, but that is just a SWAG on my part.
>
> > > > i burn it of DVD - how i can verify that it is good copy?
>
> I believe the site where you downloaded the disk image from should have a
> downloadable md5sum or possibly an sha1sum and doing the same sum
> operation on your disk would prove its integrity.
> .
> > > Did you copy your working hal and ini files to the new system
> > > and launch linuxcnc using your working files?
> > >
>
> This is very important, if not you will have to start the configuration
> from scratch.
>
> > > > thanks
> > > > aram
> > >
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Re: [Emc-users] single board computer
It is very likely that your friends were showing you a BeagleBone or BeagleBoneBlack sbc, which uses a TI processor, running some version of Linux. The ARM processors used on these inexpensive boards are very good for low-power, low-cost applications, but still lag behind the performance possible with the larger x86 or amd64 motherboards. Reliability of fanless, solid-state disk computers should be excellent, regardless of whether they use ARM or traditional processors. -- Ralph From: a k [pccncmach...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 10:36 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] single board computer i learned about single board computer on local --meetup-- group where enthusiast helping eachother to learn to program small boards ardinary etc and single board computer. i think that major manufacturer of single board computer -texas instrument. technology getting more powerful with every moth/weeks and their cost is good. i think, because price of single board computer is ok than hardware manufacturer for linuxcnc may very well incorporate single board computer with there hardware and offer finish working controller. will it make linuxcnc more robust system for final user/machine shop? aram On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 7:49 AM, Ralph Stirling < ralph.stirl...@wallawalla.edu> wrote: > Aram, > > LinuxCNC will never run without an OS. Modern single > board computers like the BeagleBoneBlack run full OS's > like Ubuntu and Debian. LinuxCNC/Machinekit run on > top of the OS, along with a real-time extension. > > The BBB version of LinuxCNC works fine for driving > stepper motors, but cannot yet handle closed-loop > servo systems very well, as encoder pulse counting is > too slow. Eventually there should be Mesa or Pico type > hardware add-ons that offload encoder pulse counting > to make servo control possible. I have to emphasize > that Machinekit is still very "bleeding edge", and you > would be well advised to stick with x86 motherboards > and straight LinuxCNC for another year for your machine > projects. > > -- Ralph > > From: a k [pccncmach...@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 9:58 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] single board computer > > for last 10 years developer put a lot of time to make emc2-linuxcnc to run > on ubuntu. now ubuntu gone so all those efforts. for how long Debian will > there? > single board always will be there. > can single board comp. run closed loop- ac-servo motors? > can single board comp. use existing hardware -boards- etc? > > how far in the future linuxcnc on single board computer. (closed loop + > servo motor+ use existing board) month or years away? > > > > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > > > On 11/22/2014 08:06 PM, a k wrote: > > > this week i learned about of single board computer. and some idea about > > how > > > to program it how it works. > > > just interesting if it be possible to run linuxcnc on single board > > computer? > > > i understand that it will only linuxcnc - no internet, no any word > > > processor etc. > > > trade of - loose something to gain something. > > > maybe just buy single board computer with linuxcnc already on it. > > > i think that single board computer cost less than $100., but one knows > > that > > > it works fo sure > > > > > The Beagle Bone runs Machinekit, which is a branch of > > LinuxCNC. It is a $55 board > > with everything on it, including Ethernet and USB. There > > are "capes" which plug onto > > it to hold stepper drivers and other I/O stuff. It is often > > used for 3D printers, but > > could also run a small mill or router. Since it runs a full > > Linux implementation, you > > can run anything you want on it, in addition to the LinuxCNC > > version that comes with > > Machinekit. > > > > Jon > > > > > > > -- > > Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server > > from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards > > with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more > > Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE > > > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > ___ > > Emc-users mailing list > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > -- > Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server > from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards > with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more > Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE > > http://pubads.g.do
Re: [Emc-users] 2.6.4---2.5.4
I have 2.5.4 and 2.6 and in Axis both behave correctly, MDI is not
allowed with power off.
On 11/23/2014 1:12 PM, a k wrote:
> hi
> i try and got same problem with live CD no installation--
> even without any installation.
> than i try 2.5.4 and total different result.
> Problem is that when i click F1 - off e-stop, i should be able to pick axis
> -- X Y Z, able to type in in MDI , AND after i push F2 machine power up and
> after i click on Y axis jog - (any increment ) tham machine should move.
> that is how 2.5.4 works on my computer.
> And on my computer for 2.6.4 nothig is same.
> in live CD - F1 - e-stop off ,and i can no pick axis X Y Z they are frozen
> not pickable, and i can open MDI but i CAN NOT type there anything.
>
> Yesterday i did see that 2.6.5 -- already there. i copy it and try it. same
> result as with 2.6.4-- no difference.
>
> it can not be that only i have this problem. maybe not many try 2.6.5
> why do i have this problem?
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 7:00 AM, Peter C. Wallace wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 22 Nov 2014, a k wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 16:04:20 -0800
>>> From: a k
>>> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>>>
>>> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >>
>>> Subject: [Emc-users] 2.6.4---2.5.4
>>>
>>> hi
>>> i fund that i have bigger problem.
>>> 2.6.4 does not work as 2.5.4
>>> i just check before typing this
>>>
>>> When i start 2.5.4 - open CNC (my is 5i20)
>>> than F1, and F2.
>>> after that i can pick axis like X Y Z and pick increment
>>>
>>> with 2.6.4 it does not work like that
>>> Here is how it works on my computer
>>> Pick interface. mesa- 5i20
>>> CNC open
>>> than F1.
>>> than F2 - and when i pick F2 machine start move on continues feed every
>>> time i pick F2..
>>> i can not pick - change axis they are frozen .
>>> Every time click on F2 result in motion of X axis and fallowing error.
>> -can
>>> not change axis - nothing - all axis are -frozen
>>> i pick MDI and i can not type in nothing it froze also.
>>>
>>> does any one have similar situation with 2.6.4?
>>>
>>> i burn it of DVD - how i can verify that it is good copy?
>>
>> Did you copy your working hal and ini files to the new system
>> and launch linuxcnc using your working files?
>>
>>> thanks
>>> aram
>>>
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Re: [Emc-users] 2.6.4---2.5.4
just now i put 5i20 board into computer that i brought with me to my first
linuxcnc work shop in 2006 and start live CD 2.6.5 and i got error
//
Removing HAL_LIB, RTAPI, and Real Time OS modules
Removing NML shared memory segments
Debug file information:
Error: could not insert module
/usr/realtime-3.4-9-rtai-686-pae/modules/linuxcnc/hm2_pci.ko: No such device
hm2-servo.hal:46: exit value: 1
hm2-servo.hal:46: insmod failed, returned -1
See the output of 'dmesg' for more information.
4511
PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND
Stopping realtime threads
Unloading hal components
Kernel message information:
[ 0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset
[ 0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu
[ 0.00] Linux v
what this error indicate?
thank you
aram
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 8:43 PM, John Thornton wrote:
> I have 2.5.4 and 2.6 and in Axis both behave correctly, MDI is not
> allowed with power off.
>
> On 11/23/2014 1:12 PM, a k wrote:
> > hi
> > i try and got same problem with live CD no installation--
> > even without any installation.
> > than i try 2.5.4 and total different result.
> > Problem is that when i click F1 - off e-stop, i should be able to pick
> axis
> > -- X Y Z, able to type in in MDI , AND after i push F2 machine power up
> and
> > after i click on Y axis jog - (any increment ) tham machine should move.
> > that is how 2.5.4 works on my computer.
> > And on my computer for 2.6.4 nothig is same.
> > in live CD - F1 - e-stop off ,and i can no pick axis X Y Z they are
> frozen
> > not pickable, and i can open MDI but i CAN NOT type there anything.
> >
> > Yesterday i did see that 2.6.5 -- already there. i copy it and try it.
> same
> > result as with 2.6.4-- no difference.
> >
> > it can not be that only i have this problem. maybe not many try 2.6.5
> > why do i have this problem?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 7:00 AM, Peter C. Wallace
> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 22 Nov 2014, a k wrote:
> >>
> >>> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 16:04:20 -0800
> >>> From: a k
> >>> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> >>>
> >>> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <
> emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> >>>
> >>> Subject: [Emc-users] 2.6.4---2.5.4
> >>>
> >>> hi
> >>> i fund that i have bigger problem.
> >>> 2.6.4 does not work as 2.5.4
> >>> i just check before typing this
> >>>
> >>> When i start 2.5.4 - open CNC (my is 5i20)
> >>> than F1, and F2.
> >>> after that i can pick axis like X Y Z and pick increment
> >>>
> >>> with 2.6.4 it does not work like that
> >>> Here is how it works on my computer
> >>> Pick interface. mesa- 5i20
> >>> CNC open
> >>> than F1.
> >>> than F2 - and when i pick F2 machine start move on continues feed every
> >>> time i pick F2..
> >>> i can not pick - change axis they are frozen .
> >>> Every time click on F2 result in motion of X axis and fallowing error.
> >> -can
> >>> not change axis - nothing - all axis are -frozen
> >>> i pick MDI and i can not type in nothing it froze also.
> >>>
> >>> does any one have similar situation with 2.6.4?
> >>>
> >>> i burn it of DVD - how i can verify that it is good copy?
> >>
> >> Did you copy your working hal and ini files to the new system
> >> and launch linuxcnc using your working files?
> >>
> >>> thanks
> >>> aram
> >>>
> >>
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Re: [Emc-users] 2.6.4---2.5.4
hm2_pci.ko: No such device
means that linuxcnc can not see 5i20 board?
but it is there
and with 2.5.4 linuxcnc can see the same board
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 9:06 PM, a k wrote:
> just now i put 5i20 board into computer that i brought with me to my first
> linuxcnc work shop in 2006 and start live CD 2.6.5 and i got error
> //
>
> Removing HAL_LIB, RTAPI, and Real Time OS modules
>
> Removing NML shared memory segments
>
> Debug file information:
>
> Error: could not insert module
> /usr/realtime-3.4-9-rtai-686-pae/modules/linuxcnc/hm2_pci.ko: No such device
>
> hm2-servo.hal:46: exit value: 1
>
> hm2-servo.hal:46: insmod failed, returned -1
>
> See the output of 'dmesg' for more information.
>
> 4511
>
> PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND
>
> Stopping realtime threads
>
> Unloading hal components
>
>
> Kernel message information:
>
> [ 0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset
>
> [ 0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu
>
> [ 0.00] Linux v
>
>
>
> what this error indicate?
>
>
> thank you
>
> aram
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 8:43 PM, John Thornton wrote:
>
>> I have 2.5.4 and 2.6 and in Axis both behave correctly, MDI is not
>> allowed with power off.
>>
>> On 11/23/2014 1:12 PM, a k wrote:
>> > hi
>> > i try and got same problem with live CD no installation--
>> > even without any installation.
>> > than i try 2.5.4 and total different result.
>> > Problem is that when i click F1 - off e-stop, i should be able to pick
>> axis
>> > -- X Y Z, able to type in in MDI , AND after i push F2 machine power up
>> and
>> > after i click on Y axis jog - (any increment ) tham machine should move.
>> > that is how 2.5.4 works on my computer.
>> > And on my computer for 2.6.4 nothig is same.
>> > in live CD - F1 - e-stop off ,and i can no pick axis X Y Z they are
>> frozen
>> > not pickable, and i can open MDI but i CAN NOT type there anything.
>> >
>> > Yesterday i did see that 2.6.5 -- already there. i copy it and try it.
>> same
>> > result as with 2.6.4-- no difference.
>> >
>> > it can not be that only i have this problem. maybe not many try 2.6.5
>> > why do i have this problem?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 7:00 AM, Peter C. Wallace
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sat, 22 Nov 2014, a k wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 16:04:20 -0800
>> >>> From: a k
>> >>> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>> >>>
>> >>> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <
>> emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>> >>>
>> >>> Subject: [Emc-users] 2.6.4---2.5.4
>> >>>
>> >>> hi
>> >>> i fund that i have bigger problem.
>> >>> 2.6.4 does not work as 2.5.4
>> >>> i just check before typing this
>> >>>
>> >>> When i start 2.5.4 - open CNC (my is 5i20)
>> >>> than F1, and F2.
>> >>> after that i can pick axis like X Y Z and pick increment
>> >>>
>> >>> with 2.6.4 it does not work like that
>> >>> Here is how it works on my computer
>> >>> Pick interface. mesa- 5i20
>> >>> CNC open
>> >>> than F1.
>> >>> than F2 - and when i pick F2 machine start move on continues feed
>> every
>> >>> time i pick F2..
>> >>> i can not pick - change axis they are frozen .
>> >>> Every time click on F2 result in motion of X axis and fallowing error.
>> >> -can
>> >>> not change axis - nothing - all axis are -frozen
>> >>> i pick MDI and i can not type in nothing it froze also.
>> >>>
>> >>> does any one have similar situation with 2.6.4?
>> >>>
>> >>> i burn it of DVD - how i can verify that it is good copy?
>> >>
>> >> Did you copy your working hal and ini files to the new system
>> >> and launch linuxcnc using your working files?
>> >>
>> >>> thanks
>> >>> aram
>> >>>
>> >>
>> --
>> >>> Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server
>> >>> from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and
>> Dashboards
>> >>> with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration &
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>> >>> Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations,
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Re: [Emc-users] 2.6.4---2.5.4
i did move 5i20 to the next PCI port and 2.6.5 work ok. i just do not know what cause to 2.6.5 to start to work ok? maybe because it use quantum mechanic -- nothing happen for sure, it only has high probability that it will happen. On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 9:11 PM, a k wrote: > hm2_pci.ko: No such device > means that linuxcnc can not see 5i20 board? > but it is there > and with 2.5.4 linuxcnc can see the same board > > > On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 9:06 PM, a k wrote: > >> just now i put 5i20 board into computer that i brought with me to my >> first linuxcnc work shop in 2006 and start live CD 2.6.5 and i got error >> // >> >> Removing HAL_LIB, RTAPI, and Real Time OS modules >> >> Removing NML shared memory segments >> >> Debug file information: >> >> Error: could not insert module >> /usr/realtime-3.4-9-rtai-686-pae/modules/linuxcnc/hm2_pci.ko: No such device >> >> hm2-servo.hal:46: exit value: 1 >> >> hm2-servo.hal:46: insmod failed, returned -1 >> >> See the output of 'dmesg' for more information. >> >> 4511 >> >> PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND >> >> Stopping realtime threads >> >> Unloading hal components >> >> >> Kernel message information: >> >> [ 0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset >> >> [ 0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu >> >> [ 0.00] Linux v >> >> >> >> what this error indicate? >> >> >> thank you >> >> aram >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 8:43 PM, John Thornton wrote: >> >>> I have 2.5.4 and 2.6 and in Axis both behave correctly, MDI is not >>> allowed with power off. >>> >>> On 11/23/2014 1:12 PM, a k wrote: >>> > hi >>> > i try and got same problem with live CD no installation-- >>> > even without any installation. >>> > than i try 2.5.4 and total different result. >>> > Problem is that when i click F1 - off e-stop, i should be able to pick >>> axis >>> > -- X Y Z, able to type in in MDI , AND after i push F2 machine power >>> up and >>> > after i click on Y axis jog - (any increment ) tham machine should >>> move. >>> > that is how 2.5.4 works on my computer. >>> > And on my computer for 2.6.4 nothig is same. >>> > in live CD - F1 - e-stop off ,and i can no pick axis X Y Z they are >>> frozen >>> > not pickable, and i can open MDI but i CAN NOT type there anything. >>> > >>> > Yesterday i did see that 2.6.5 -- already there. i copy it and try it. >>> same >>> > result as with 2.6.4-- no difference. >>> > >>> > it can not be that only i have this problem. maybe not many try 2.6.5 >>> > why do i have this problem? >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 7:00 AM, Peter C. Wallace >>> wrote: >>> > >>> >> On Sat, 22 Nov 2014, a k wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 16:04:20 -0800 >>> >>> From: a k >>> >>> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >>> >>> >>> >>> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" < >>> emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> >>> >>> >>> Subject: [Emc-users] 2.6.4---2.5.4 >>> >>> >>> >>> hi >>> >>> i fund that i have bigger problem. >>> >>> 2.6.4 does not work as 2.5.4 >>> >>> i just check before typing this >>> >>> >>> >>> When i start 2.5.4 - open CNC (my is 5i20) >>> >>> than F1, and F2. >>> >>> after that i can pick axis like X Y Z and pick increment >>> >>> >>> >>> with 2.6.4 it does not work like that >>> >>> Here is how it works on my computer >>> >>> Pick interface. mesa- 5i20 >>> >>> CNC open >>> >>> than F1. >>> >>> than F2 - and when i pick F2 machine start move on continues feed >>> every >>> >>> time i pick F2.. >>> >>> i can not pick - change axis they are frozen . >>> >>> Every time click on F2 result in motion of X axis and fallowing >>> error. >>> >> -can >>> >>> not change axis - nothing - all axis are -frozen >>> >>> i pick MDI and i can not type in nothing it froze also. >>> >>> >>> >>> does any one have similar situation with 2.6.4? >>> >>> >>> >>> i burn it of DVD - how i can verify that it is good copy? >>> >> >>> >> Did you copy your working hal and ini files to the new system >>> >> and launch linuxcnc using your working files? >>> >> >>> >>> thanks >>> >>> aram >>> >>> >>> >> >>> -- >>> >>> Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server >>> >>> from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and >>> Dashboards >>> >>> with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & >>> more >>> >>> Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, >>> FREE >>> >>> >>> >> >>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >>> >>> ___ >>> >>> Emc-users mailing list >>> >>> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >>> >>> >>> >> Peter Wallace >>> >> Mesa Electronics >>> >> >>> >> (\__/) >>> >> (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy
Re: [Emc-users] 2.6.4---2.5.4
On Sun, 23 Nov 2014, a k wrote: > Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 11:12:38 -0800 > From: a k > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 2.6.4---2.5.4 > > hi > i try and got same problem with live CD no installation-- > even without any installation. > than i try 2.5.4 and total different result. > Problem is that when i click F1 - off e-stop, i should be able to pick axis > -- X Y Z, able to type in in MDI , AND after i push F2 machine power up and > after i click on Y axis jog - (any increment ) tham machine should move. > that is how 2.5.4 works on my computer. > And on my computer for 2.6.4 nothig is same. > in live CD - F1 - e-stop off ,and i can no pick axis X Y Z they are frozen > not pickable, and i can open MDI but i CAN NOT type there anything. > > Yesterday i did see that 2.6.5 -- already there. i copy it and try it. same > result as with 2.6.4-- no difference. > > it can not be that only i have this problem. maybe not many try 2.6.5 > why do i have this problem? You did not answer my question, which was: Did you copy your original working configuration files from your workin machine to the new 2.6.4 installation? Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] single board computer
On Sunday 23 November 2014 20:24:26 Ralph Stirling wrote: > It is very likely that your friends were showing you a BeagleBone > or BeagleBoneBlack sbc, which uses a TI processor, running some > version of Linux. The ARM processors used on these inexpensive > boards are very good for low-power, low-cost applications, but still > lag behind the performance possible with the larger x86 or amd64 > motherboards. Reliability of fanless, solid-state disk computers > should be excellent, regardless of whether they use ARM or traditional > processors. > > -- Ralph It really depends on your application. If you want to control a 10.000$ CNC mill then the price of the fan-less computer is comparable low and you are probably better with such a system. For a small 500-1000$ CNC machine a SoC might be better because of the price and size of device. Regards Alexander -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 2.6.4---2.5.4
2014-11-23 23:46 GMT+02:00 a k : > i did move 5i20 to the next PCI port and 2.6.5 work ok. > i just do not know what cause to 2.6.5 to start to work ok? > maybe because it use quantum mechanic -- nothing happen for sure, it only > has high probability that it will happen. > > I have D525MW motherboard which does not see 5i25 card. Too bad it has only one PCI slot. I should try Ubuntu on that D525MW instead of Debian... who knows. -- Andrew -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 2.6.4---2.5.4
I did many things. first i open Hal and type everything in manually. when it did not work i reload 2.6.4 and type all my changes again. third time i copy my changes alteration to HAL to file and that just copy past them to do it faster. but now i can see that that 2.6.5 works i will do it again and i will type everything manually On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 9:50 PM, Peter C. Wallace wrote: > On Sun, 23 Nov 2014, a k wrote: > > > Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 11:12:38 -0800 > > From: a k > > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 2.6.4---2.5.4 > > > > hi > > i try and got same problem with live CD no installation-- > > even without any installation. > > than i try 2.5.4 and total different result. > > Problem is that when i click F1 - off e-stop, i should be able to pick > axis > > -- X Y Z, able to type in in MDI , AND after i push F2 machine power up > and > > after i click on Y axis jog - (any increment ) tham machine should move. > > that is how 2.5.4 works on my computer. > > And on my computer for 2.6.4 nothig is same. > > in live CD - F1 - e-stop off ,and i can no pick axis X Y Z they are > frozen > > not pickable, and i can open MDI but i CAN NOT type there anything. > > > > Yesterday i did see that 2.6.5 -- already there. i copy it and try it. > same > > result as with 2.6.4-- no difference. > > > > it can not be that only i have this problem. maybe not many try 2.6.5 > > why do i have this problem? > > > You did not answer my question, which was: > > Did you copy your original working configuration files from your workin > machine to the new 2.6.4 installation? > > > > Peter Wallace > Mesa Electronics > > > -- > Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server > from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards > with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more > Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 2.6.4---2.5.4
On Sun, 23 Nov 2014, Andrew wrote:
> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 23:54:16 +0200
> From: Andrew
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 2.6.4---2.5.4
>
> 2014-11-23 23:46 GMT+02:00 a k :
>
>> i did move 5i20 to the next PCI port and 2.6.5 work ok.
>> i just do not know what cause to 2.6.5 to start to work ok?
>> maybe because it use quantum mechanic -- nothing happen for sure, it only
>> has high probability that it will happen.
>>
>> I have D525MW motherboard which does not see 5i25 card. Too bad it has
> only one PCI slot.
> I should try Ubuntu on that D525MW instead of Debian... who knows.
>
> --
> Andrew
If a PCI card is not detected, it very often is because either the contact
fingers or slot contacts are dirty (this is especiall true of slota on a
motherboard that have been unused for a long time)
I find the cleaning the PCI card and slot with 99% Isopropyl alcohol often
fixes the problem. To clean the slot I dip a piece of card stock into the
alcohol and insert/remove it several times
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Re: [Emc-users] single board computer
All new machine tool do not have any fan to cool down processor. They use regular refrigerator unit to cool down whole system. Fan is old and for desktop computer -simple - and it will bring dust and a lot of it in short period of time. Just need a rifrigerator and place single board computer- whole system inside. On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 9:52 PM, Alexander Rössler wrote: > On Sunday 23 November 2014 20:24:26 Ralph Stirling wrote: > > It is very likely that your friends were showing you a BeagleBone > > or BeagleBoneBlack sbc, which uses a TI processor, running some > > version of Linux. The ARM processors used on these inexpensive > > boards are very good for low-power, low-cost applications, but still > > lag behind the performance possible with the larger x86 or amd64 > > motherboards. Reliability of fanless, solid-state disk computers > > should be excellent, regardless of whether they use ARM or traditional > > processors. > > > > -- Ralph > It really depends on your application. If you want to control a 10.000$ CNC > mill then the price of the fan-less computer is comparable low and you are > probably better with such a system. > > For a small 500-1000$ CNC machine a SoC might be better because of the > price > and size of device. > > Regards > Alexander > > > -- > Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server > from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards > with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more > Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Limit Switches - 7i76
I have a BP Boss knee mill. The switches are NO. How should I go about wiring this to the 7i76? Would it be better to get NC switches? Appreciate any help. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers
On 11/22/2014 12:49 PM, el cringo wrote: > Hi, > i just added pdfs for the current hw version. The eagle files are for > version 6.5.0. We once tried KiCad but we are a lot better with eagle. Thank you. I looked at your pdfs. I also installed the latest LinuxCNC ( 2.6 with Wheezy) on a PC and loaded Eagle 7, so I can open Eagle files now. It took a while to figure out Git Hub (I normally use Bitbucket) and downloaded your files. There really isn't that much magic in the hardware, except maybe the current feedback/limit bit. It seems the magic is in the software. I'm looking forward to watching your progress. -- Kirk Wallace http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ http://www.wallacecompany.com/E45/ -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers
Hi, there is no current feedback yet and the over current protection is copied from the UHU servo controller (http://www.uhu-servo.de/). The next version will have a small cpu for this stuff (cheaper, neads less space and is far more flexible). We are planning to include a current prediction in software based an our motor simulator. Our current pid component does it with an open loop PD controller. But the main problem is the noise amplification in position derivation for velocity feedback. Therefor the main development is currently done in realtime filter algorithems without too much phase shift. We have plenty of calculation power, so we can even experiment with stuff like total variation denoising or polynomial fit at 5kHz (our current pid freqency, resolver positions come in at 20kHz). Our hal like framework and the terminal realy speeds testing up, as we are able to rewire and reconfigure the hole system on the fly and get instant feedback. Nico > On 11/22/2014 12:49 PM, el cringo wrote: >> Hi, >> i just added pdfs for the current hw version. The eagle files are for >> version 6.5.0. We once tried KiCad but we are a lot better with eagle. > > Thank you. I looked at your pdfs. I also installed the latest LinuxCNC ( > 2.6 with Wheezy) on a PC and loaded Eagle 7, so I can open Eagle files > now. It took a while to figure out Git Hub (I normally use Bitbucket) > and downloaded your files. There really isn't that much magic in the > hardware, except maybe the current feedback/limit bit. It seems the > magic is in the software. I'm looking forward to watching your progress. > > -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers
On 24 Nov 2014, at 02:02, Kirk Wallace wrote: > On 11/22/2014 12:49 PM, el cringo wrote: >> Hi, >> i just added pdfs for the current hw version. The eagle files are for >> version 6.5.0. We once tried KiCad but we are a lot better with eagle. > > Thank you. I looked at your pdfs. I also installed the latest LinuxCNC ( > 2.6 with Wheezy) on a PC and loaded Eagle 7, so I can open Eagle files > now. It took a while to figure out Git Hub (I normally use Bitbucket) > and downloaded your files. There really isn't that much magic in the > hardware, except maybe the current feedback/limit bit. It seems the > magic is in the software. I'm looking forward to watching your progress. There is no magic in the power stage, comes right from the iramx datasheet. At the moment there is no current feedback to the MCU, only a hardware limit. We give the motor a Voltage, which results in a current. As we know how fast the motor is, we can compensate for induction. The part that took us a while to figure out was the resolver driving hardware. I took a lot of breadboarding and simulation in LTspice, which are included in the git. in fact we are still working on noise issues with resolver feedback. The speed derived from the position amplifies the ADC noise, resulting in jittering output. It is not enough to move anything mechanical connected to the motor, but the current makes an irritating noise. A simple (software)lowpass is shifting the phase, resulting in oscillation. Rene > > > -- > Kirk Wallace > http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ > http://www.wallacecompany.com/E45/ > > -- > Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server > from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards > with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more > Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers
some screenshots of the term(already outdated), and our development hardware https://www.dropbox.com/s/gqx0h809odek0pj/Screenshot%202014-11-04%2016.03.51.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/5k7ji9ncqy5t3w7/Screenshot%202014-11-04%2016.06.08.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/m0s75igxbtm3qw8/2014-10-23%2012.27.22.jpg?dl=0 On 24 Nov 2014, at 02:50, Rene Hopf wrote: > > On 24 Nov 2014, at 02:02, Kirk Wallace wrote: > >> On 11/22/2014 12:49 PM, el cringo wrote: >>> Hi, >>> i just added pdfs for the current hw version. The eagle files are for >>> version 6.5.0. We once tried KiCad but we are a lot better with eagle. >> >> Thank you. I looked at your pdfs. I also installed the latest LinuxCNC ( >> 2.6 with Wheezy) on a PC and loaded Eagle 7, so I can open Eagle files >> now. It took a while to figure out Git Hub (I normally use Bitbucket) >> and downloaded your files. There really isn't that much magic in the >> hardware, except maybe the current feedback/limit bit. It seems the >> magic is in the software. I'm looking forward to watching your progress. > > There is no magic in the power stage, comes right from the iramx datasheet. > At the moment there is no current feedback to the MCU, only a hardware limit. > We give the motor a Voltage, which results in a current. > As we know how fast the motor is, we can compensate for induction. > The part that took us a while to figure out was the resolver driving hardware. > I took a lot of breadboarding and simulation in LTspice, which are included > in the git. > in fact we are still working on noise issues with resolver feedback. > The speed derived from the position amplifies the ADC noise, resulting in > jittering output. > It is not enough to move anything mechanical connected to the motor, but the > current makes an irritating noise. > A simple (software)lowpass is shifting the phase, resulting in oscillation. > > Rene > > > >> >> >> -- >> Kirk Wallace >> http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ >> http://www.wallacecompany.com/E45/ >> >> -- >> Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server >> from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards >> with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more >> Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> ___ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > -- > Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server > from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards > with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more > Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Limit Switches - 7i76
It's no problem, just tie them as the plans say (+field voltage, IIRC) and set the correct "level" so that they trigger as expected. I understand that the NC switches are "better" as they will open if there's a wiring issue, but that's a minor item. On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 7:46 PM, Jeremy Jones wrote: > I have a BP Boss knee mill. The switches are NO. How should I go about > wiring this to the 7i76? Would it be better to get NC switches? Appreciate > any help. > > -- > Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server > from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards > with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more > Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Limit Switches - 7i76
Whoops - by "correct level" I mean, either use the signal as given, or use the signal as "-not" to use it inverted. My hal files are not nearby, so I can't tell you which version I used on my NC switches. If you use pncconf, you'll be able to set whether the signal is inverted or not. If you get it wrong, LinuxCNC will give you an error on startup, saying that the limit switch on axis [0-n] is set. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers
On 2014-11-24 03:35, el cringo wrote: > Hi, > there is no current feedback yet and the over current protection is > copied from the UHU servo controller (http://www.uhu-servo.de/). > The next version will have a small cpu for this stuff (cheaper, neads > less space and is far more flexible). > We are planning to include a current prediction in software based an our > motor simulator. Our current pid component does it with an open loop PD > controller. > But the main problem is the noise amplification in position derivation > for velocity feedback. > Therefor the main development is currently done in realtime filter > algorithems without too much phase shift. We have plenty of calculation > power, so we can even experiment with stuff like total variation > denoising or polynomial fit at 5kHz (our current pid freqency, resolver > positions come in at 20kHz). > Our hal like framework and the terminal realy speeds testing up, as we > are able to rewire and reconfigure the hole system on the fly and get > instant feedback. Hi Nico This was the part that confused me the most. I did compile the terminal but dont know how to use your HAL like framework. Would you mind giving some pointers please. I have ordered my STM board already and I want to really partake in testing your work. > Nico > >> On 11/22/2014 12:49 PM, el cringo wrote: >>> Hi, >>> i just added pdfs for the current hw version. The eagle files are for >>> version 6.5.0. We once tried KiCad but we are a lot better with eagle. >> Thank you. I looked at your pdfs. I also installed the latest LinuxCNC ( >> 2.6 with Wheezy) on a PC and loaded Eagle 7, so I can open Eagle files >> now. It took a while to figure out Git Hub (I normally use Bitbucket) >> and downloaded your files. There really isn't that much magic in the >> hardware, except maybe the current feedback/limit bit. It seems the >> magic is in the software. I'm looking forward to watching your progress. >> >> > > -- > Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server > from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards > with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more > Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- Regards /Groete Marius D. Liebenberg +27 82 698 3251 +27 12 743 6064 QQ 1767394877 -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
