Re: [E-devel] request for efreet localization
The main issue is that the desktop environment itself is supposed to parse these files and export the variables. Few do, us included. Regardless, this fallback variable in efreet should be translated at some point. On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 4:18 AM, Jérôme Pinot ngc...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/18/12 13:53, Michael Blumenkrantz wrote: this is for fixing a somewhat annoying corner case with efm involving locale change. there's other solutions which are less correct, but I'd like to get the fallback choice here fixed since that alone will solve the bug in most cases. It's not exactly a _changing locale_ issue. I didn't change my locale for a long time now but what I'm seeing here is that my ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs is not read/used. Maybe efreet should somehow rely on it and not only use env variables. Reading in this order: - /etc/xdg/user-dirs.defaults - ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs - XDG_ env variable and then fallback. What do you think? On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Sebastian Dransfeld s...@tango.flipp.net wrote: Then I guess there aren't anymore. I think all other localization elements has been inside files or filenames. As far as I know there hasn't been any localization problems with efreet before. S. On 06/18/2012 02:43 PM, Michael Blumenkrantz wrote: hm...I guess I assumed there would be more cases; I don't use a localized E, nor do I have any experience with it. On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Sebastian Dransfeld s...@tango.flipp.net wrote: Do you have any other examples but XDG_DESKTOP_DIR? I can't find any others which should be localized. S. On 06/18/2012 02:27 PM, Michael Blumenkrantz wrote: sure, the problem is that we don't localize our fallback strings here. in many desktop environments, those variables are not sourced/set, and so we get the fallback strings every time: these strings are in english, so they're always wrong. On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Sebastian Dransfeld s...@tango.flipp.net wrote: On 06/14/2012 01:05 PM, Michael Blumenkrantz wrote: Hi, It's come to my attention that many of the strings in efreet (especially src/lib/efreet_base.c; see functions such as efreet_desktop_dir_get()) lack proper localization. This causes unexpected behavior in most cases on non-english platforms, and should probably be fixed by someone who knows the proper/expected localized directories. If I can get some help on this, it will fix a number of issues with e's file manager and other efreet uses. Isn't it the point that everything localized should be fetched from XDG_* env variables? S. -- Jérôme Pinot http://ngc891.blogdns.net/ -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [Patch][elementary] using textblocks in the layout as an accessibility object (with focus chain)
On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 15:01:39 +0900 Kim Shinwoo kimcinoo@gmail.com said: cedric - put it in as is :) name is fine. Dear all, hello. To read TEXTBLOCK (especially, TEXTBLOCKs in layout object) in the accessibility environment, the TEXTBLOCK should be focusable. Because the accessibility uses the elementary focus to change highlight object, when user gives specific gesture such as flicking. The elm_access(accessibility) gives an object which inherits Elm_Layout_Smart_Class. This object is in charge of accessibility task for the TEXTBLOCK. You can test the TEXTBLOCK working with elementary focus in the accessibility environment by using following environment variables. $ export ELM_MODULES=access_outputaccess/api:$ELM_MODULES $ export ELM_ACCESS_MODE=1 $ elementary_test This would be ONE SMALL STEP for the accessibility to shake hands with the elementary focus. Thanks a lot. Shinwoo Kim. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E SVN: raster trunk/elementary/data/themes/widgets
What are those empty lines? On Jun 19, 2012 10:15 AM, Enlightenment SVN no-re...@enlightenment.org wrote: Log: add new genlisut stiles for one_icon, end_icon and no_icon Author: raster Date: 2012-06-18 00:35:27 -0700 (Mon, 18 Jun 2012) New Revision: 72364 Trac: http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/changeset/72364 Modified: trunk/elementary/data/themes/widgets/genlist.edc Modified: trunk/elementary/data/themes/widgets/genlist.edc === --- trunk/elementary/data/themes/widgets/genlist.edc2012-06-18 07:23:41 UTC (rev 72363) +++ trunk/elementary/data/themes/widgets/genlist.edc2012-06-18 07:35:27 UTC (rev 72364) @@ -178,7 +178,6 @@ fixed: 1 0; align: 1.0 0.5; aspect: 1.0 1.0; -aspect_preference: VERTICAL; rel1 { relative: 1.0 0.0; offset: -54; @@ -410,6 +409,1266 @@ } } } + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +group { name: elm/genlist/item/one_icon/default; + data.item: selectraise on; + data.item: texts elm.text; + data.item: contents elm.swallow.icon; + data.item: treesize 20; + data.item: flips elm.text.flip; + // data.item: states ; + images { + image: bt_sm_base1.png COMP; + image: bt_sm_shine.png COMP; + image: bt_sm_hilight.png COMP; + image: ilist_1.png COMP; + image: ilist_2.png COMP; + image: ilist_item_shadow.png COMP; + } + parts { + part { + name: event; + type: RECT; + description { +state: default 0.0; +color: 0 0 0 0; + } + } + part { name: reorder_bg; + mouse_events: 0; + description { state: default 0.0; +visible: 0; +color: 255 255 255 0; +rel1 { + relative: 0.0 0.0; + offset: -7 -7; +} +rel2 { + relative: 1.0 1.0; + offset: 9 9; +} +image { + normal: bt_bases.png; + border: 6 6 6 6; +} + } + description { state: enabled 0.0; +inherit: default 0.0; +visible: 1; +color: 255 255 255 255; + } + } + part { + name: base_sh; + mouse_events: 0; + description { +state: default 0.0; +align: 0.0 0.0; +min: 0 10; +fixed: 1 1; +rel1 { + to: base; + relative: 0.0 1.0; + offset: 0 0; +} +rel2 { + to: base; + relative: 1.0 1.0; + offset: -1 0; +} +image { + normal: ilist_item_shadow.png; +} +fill.smooth: 0; + } + description { +state: default 1.0; +inherit: default 0.0; +visible: 0; + } + } + part { + name: base; + mouse_events: 0; + description { +state: default 0.0; +image { + normal: ilist_1.png; + border: 2 2 2 2; +} +fill.smooth: 0; + } + description { +state: default 1.0; +inherit: default 0.0; +image.normal: ilist_2.png; + } + } + part { name: bg; + clip_to: disclip; + mouse_events: 0; + description { state: default 0.0; +visible: 0; +color: 255 255 255 0; +rel1 { + relative: 0.0 0.0; + offset: -5 -5; +} +rel2 { + relative: 1.0 1.0; + offset: 4 4; +} +image { + normal: bt_sm_base1.png; + border: 6 6 6 6; +} +image.middle: SOLID; + } + description { state: default 1.0; +inherit: default 0.0; + } + description { state: selected 0.0; +inherit: default 0.0; +visible: 1; +color: 255 255 255 255; +rel1 { + relative: 0.0 0.0; + offset: -2 -2; +} +rel2 { + relative: 1.0 1.0; + offset: 1 1; +} + } + description { +state: selected 1.0; +inherit: selected 0.0; + } + } + part { name: elm.swallow.pad; + type: SWALLOW; + description { state: default 0.0; +fixed: 1 0; +
Re: [E-devel] [PATCH] elementary: Add elm_progressbar_maxunit_{set, get} functions
On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 15:04:40 +0100 Daniel Willmann d.willm...@samsung.com said: thanks! in svn it is! Some more discussion in IRC led to the conclusion that this should be a handled in a signal callback I've attached the new patch where I also updated the progress bar example. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E SVN: hermet IN trunk/web/www/p: about index
good job man :) it was too old. On Jun 19, 2012 5:11 PM, Enlightenment SVN no-re...@enlightenment.org wrote: Log: www - updated descriptions also Author: hermet Date: 2012-06-19 01:11:32 -0700 (Tue, 19 Jun 2012) New Revision: 72456 Trac: http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/changeset/72456 Modified: trunk/web/www/p/about/en-body trunk/web/www/p/index/en-body Modified: trunk/web/www/p/about/en-body === --- trunk/web/www/p/about/en-body 2012-06-19 07:58:51 UTC (rev 72455) +++ trunk/web/www/p/about/en-body 2012-06-19 08:11:32 UTC (rev 72456) @@ -89,12 +89,12 @@ p Enlightenment, the window manager is built on top of building blocks known as EFL (the Enlightenment Foundation Libraries). There are more -than can be sensibly put into the simple block diagram above, but this -covers the essentials. +than can be sensibly put into the block diagram above, but this covers +the essentials. /p center -?php img(diagram-efl-simple-small.png, Simple E stack);? +?php img(diagram-efl-simple-small.png, EFL Block Diagram);? /center p Modified: trunk/web/www/p/index/en-body === --- trunk/web/www/p/index/en-body 2012-06-19 07:58:51 UTC (rev 72455) +++ trunk/web/www/p/index/en-body 2012-06-19 08:11:32 UTC (rev 72456) @@ -30,13 +30,13 @@ /p p - A simple overview of the EFL (Enlightenment Foundation Libraries) stack - is here. ?php a(about, There is more to this);?, but this gives - a quick overview of where it fits in. + A overview of the EFL (Enlightenment Foundation Libraries) stack is + here. ?php a(about, There is more to this);?, but this gives a + quick overview of where it fits in. /p center - ?php ast(about);??php img(diagram-efl-simple-small.png, Simple E stack);?/a + ?php ast(about);??php img(diagram-efl-simple-small.png, EFL Block Diagram);?/a /center /div -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-svn mailing list enlightenment-...@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-svn -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E SVN: raster trunk/elementary/data/themes/widgets
On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 18:21:58 +0900 Daniel Juyung Seo seojuyu...@gmail.com said: me being silly and making it easier to track what i'm editing :) removed now. What are those empty lines? On Jun 19, 2012 10:15 AM, Enlightenment SVN no-re...@enlightenment.org wrote: Log: add new genlisut stiles for one_icon, end_icon and no_icon Author: raster Date: 2012-06-18 00:35:27 -0700 (Mon, 18 Jun 2012) New Revision: 72364 Trac: http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/changeset/72364 Modified: trunk/elementary/data/themes/widgets/genlist.edc Modified: trunk/elementary/data/themes/widgets/genlist.edc === --- trunk/elementary/data/themes/widgets/genlist.edc2012-06-18 07:23:41 UTC (rev 72363) +++ trunk/elementary/data/themes/widgets/genlist.edc2012-06-18 07:35:27 UTC (rev 72364) @@ -178,7 +178,6 @@ fixed: 1 0; align: 1.0 0.5; aspect: 1.0 1.0; -aspect_preference: VERTICAL; rel1 { relative: 1.0 0.0; offset: -54; @@ -410,6 +409,1266 @@ } } } + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +group { name: elm/genlist/item/one_icon/default; + data.item: selectraise on; + data.item: texts elm.text; + data.item: contents elm.swallow.icon; + data.item: treesize 20; + data.item: flips elm.text.flip; + // data.item: states ; + images { + image: bt_sm_base1.png COMP; + image: bt_sm_shine.png COMP; + image: bt_sm_hilight.png COMP; + image: ilist_1.png COMP; + image: ilist_2.png COMP; + image: ilist_item_shadow.png COMP; + } + parts { + part { + name: event; + type: RECT; + description { +state: default 0.0; +color: 0 0 0 0; + } + } + part { name: reorder_bg; + mouse_events: 0; + description { state: default 0.0; +visible: 0; +color: 255 255 255 0; +rel1 { + relative: 0.0 0.0; + offset: -7 -7; +} +rel2 { + relative: 1.0 1.0; + offset: 9 9; +} +image { + normal: bt_bases.png; + border: 6 6 6 6; +} + } + description { state: enabled 0.0; +inherit: default 0.0; +visible: 1; +color: 255 255 255 255; + } + } + part { + name: base_sh; + mouse_events: 0; + description { +state: default 0.0; +align: 0.0 0.0; +min: 0 10; +fixed: 1 1; +rel1 { + to: base; + relative: 0.0 1.0; + offset: 0 0; +} +rel2 { + to: base; + relative: 1.0 1.0; + offset: -1 0; +} +image { + normal: ilist_item_shadow.png; +} +fill.smooth: 0; + } + description { +state: default 1.0; +inherit: default 0.0; +visible: 0; + } + } + part { + name: base; + mouse_events: 0; + description { +state: default 0.0; +image { + normal: ilist_1.png; + border: 2 2 2 2; +} +fill.smooth: 0; + } + description { +state: default 1.0; +inherit: default 0.0; +image.normal: ilist_2.png; + } + } + part { name: bg; + clip_to: disclip; + mouse_events: 0; + description { state: default 0.0; +visible: 0; +color: 255 255 255 0; +rel1 { + relative: 0.0 0.0; + offset: -5 -5; +} +rel2 { + relative: 1.0 1.0; + offset: 4 4; +} +image { + normal: bt_sm_base1.png; + border: 6 6 6 6; +} +image.middle: SOLID; + } + description { state: default 1.0; +inherit: default 0.0; + } + description { state: selected 0.0; +inherit: default 0.0; +visible: 1; +color: 255 255 255 255; +rel1 { + relative: 0.0 0.0; + offset: -2 -2; +} +
Re: [E-devel] Evas textgrid object
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 09:22:40 +0200 Vincent Torri vincent.to...@gmail.com said: Hey I just committed the textgrid object, which will be used in terminology and maybe a couple of other apps. It needs love, though, as I'm not a text master in Evas. I've attached a test example, which should give that : http://www.maths.univ-evry.fr/pages_perso/vtorri/files/textgrid.png well done vincent. it'd gotten some love and improvements, optimizations and now terminology uses it. it's massively sped things up and dropped mem footprint. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Evas textgrid object
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 09:22:40 +0200 Vincent Torri vincent.to...@gmail.com said: Hey I just committed the textgrid object, which will be used in terminology and maybe a couple of other apps. It needs love, though, as I'm not a text master in Evas. I've attached a test example, which should give that : http://www.maths.univ-evry.fr/pages_perso/vtorri/files/textgrid.png well done vincent. it'd gotten some love and improvements, optimizations and now terminology uses it. it's massively sped things up and dropped mem footprint. it would be nice to have some comparisons with different terminals about speed and mem consumption Vincent -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Terminology - time to talk.
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 18:50:52 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com said: On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 08:37:32 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: it doesn't handle every escape sequence in existence and even the ones it does handle may be buggy - ie i got it wrong. as such there is no document that tells you the terminal state machine and exactly what every mode means, what modes you should start in, what every esc seq or char does EXACTLY etc. it's all some level of guess-work based on reading pages on escape codes and other terminal emulator srcs. i've found these on my googling journeys for info.. the problem is they dont specify the state machine transitions and assumptions exactly :) reality is they serve as a rough guide and for details i read other terminal srcs :) Terminal escape sequences are described in the ECMA-048 standard. You should be able to find that on the ECMA website. It's four times the size of the document I attached, but it's a PDF. The one I attached should be a superset of the ECMA standard. These URLS might be handy, I got them from a text file called all-escapes.txt, but forget where I got it from. I attached it. http://www.cs.utk.edu/~shuford/terminal/dec_vt220_codes.txt http://www.cs.utk.edu/~shuford/terminal/vt100_reference_card.txt http://www.cs.utk.edu/~shuford/terminal/vt100_codes_news.txt http://www.cs.utk.edu/~shuford/terminal/ansi_dec_controls_news.txt http://www.cs.utk.edu/~shuford/terminal/xterm_controls.txt http://www.cs.utk.edu/~shuford/terminal/color_control_news.txt http://vt100.net/docs/vt220-rm/ http://vt100.net/ctrlseq_dec.html http://vt100.net/ctrlfunc_dec.html http://www.wyse.com/service/support/kbase/SEQwt.asp?Q=9 ftp://ftp.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/user/ralf/pub/rbcom346.zip#TERM-EMU.DOC http://www.itscj.ipsj.or.jp/ISO-IR/2-1.htm http://www.itscj.ipsj.or.jp/ISO-IR/2-2.htm http://www.itscj.ipsj.or.jp/ISO-IR/2-3.htm http://www.itscj.ipsj.or.jp/ISO-IR/2-8-1.htm http://www.itscj.ipsj.or.jp/ISO-IR/2-8-2.htm The codes that are returned by function keys and stuff, I started testing them yesterday, coz I happen to be writing a terminal app. Seems to be a few different standards for those, so I'm just gonna support them all in my app. -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Evas textgrid object
On 19/06/12 12:44, Vincent Torri wrote: it would be nice to have some comparisons with different terminals about speed and mem consumption time cat to all the works of shakespeare ( http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/100 ) is way faster in Terminology compared to xterm: Terminology: real 0m0.987s Xterm: real0m2.784s Urxvt is a bit faster here: real0m0.660s But raster claims it's not the same for him, and for him terminology beats everyone. :) -- Tom. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Terminology - time to talk.
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 21:54:23 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi said: On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 10:27 PM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 21:43:05 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi said: there are some gfx mode thgins in escapes. i assume thats used to draw lines using special line characters as it remaps regular chars to these sequences when in that mode - i think. i've never tried the menuconfig/ncurses lines thing in terminiology, so don't know. Thanks to KainX and his expertise I was able to get it working. There is now a vt100 to unicode table I got from urxvt. The key was to understand it may change the charset to DEC's ACS. hmm i am still missing them from jed - must be a different set of gfx chars... it's on a mental todo list to look into it. For keys: I'll look later, thanks. But I just realized even the elm_entry does not handle it :-/ bigger problems :) Fixed. Ecore_IMF was fine, but XIM module was trying to set styles that were not supported in my machine. Now it will fallback if unsupported. ok. Also added IMF to terminology based on edje_entry.c, many thanks to Sachiel for pointing out where to look for example. I just did the basics, no preedit, prediction or surrounding stuff. NO idea how it will look like with a vkbd. it actually mostly works. pretty good stuff! :) For example I can type ç by using AltGr + , but not ' + c as expected by us-intl or cedilla input methods. bigger problems indeed :). as i said -i know how compose key combos work. i need to make a table and handle them. no idea about altgr stuff. never used it, don't know it. would have to research. done :-) :) These I have no idea where to look, if they are related to termpty or what. So I'd wait you ;-) you'll be waiting a while as i have never used deadkeys. i do know how to use the compose key and combos, but even xterm doesn't do those for me, so i'm not amazingly worried, but that's about all i could manage off the top of my head with a little research (i'll have to build in a table of all the compose combos). it doesn't handle every escape sequence in existence and even the ones it does handle may be buggy - ie i got it wrong. as such there is no document that tells you the terminal state machine and exactly what every mode means, what modes you should start in, what every esc seq or char does EXACTLY etc. it's all some level of guess-work based on reading pages on escape codes and other terminal emulator srcs. Ok, so far it seems to do okay for the tests I did. But the ncurses and input problems are bit of pain for me to change. I'll see if I can fix those and use it daily. the ncurses line thing is on a list of stuff to look at - but it wasn't a necessity for my daily stuff so i didnt do it yet. :) as said, done. :) i want it to be unique and noticable. the highlight can be toned down a bit, but i want something visible that makes you know its terminology not just xterm etc. but just fyi - either your eyesight is horrible, lighting conditions insane or you have some of the crappiest screens around if u can't read it with that highlight :) are you using that macbook.. speaking of crappy screens? :):) (oooh just had to jibe that one in!) :) my screen is good, so are my eyes... but it's annoying as said by multiple people at #edevelop. How about make it your theme and the default be usable? i've toned it down, but its still there. now with a pimp-daddy pulsing cursor too. :) What I plan to work on whenever time (?) allows: - detect protocol://xxx and call xdg-open with it. Where to add it? in termio.c - you'll have to scan the cells fetched by termpty_cellrow_get() (fetched 1 row at a time for the visible grid of cells and put into textgrid). while scanning you'll have to then detect these. you'll have to handle your own line-wrap logic here - ie if url finishes at last char or not or it continue on the next line. right now there are special bit markers set to know if it was auto-wrapped or not that the selection-to-text handling tries to detect. the selection-to-text stuff is not that reliable or solid so i need to work on that as its only partly usable. look at that code for ideas - that is what converts back to utf8 strings too. :) ok, will look at it later. - see if we need reset sigaction for SIGTERM et al. Did you think about that? ummm do we need to? ecore by default auto handles quitting main loop on that so nothing to do? or was that sigint? in the child, where you exec. I'm asking because GLIBC's system does that. if u exec a child after exec.. all signal handlers are reset by exec. ecore already sets up sigchild handlers for children and we handle this as an event. :) - change option GUI from side-by-side toolbar (which is broken for
Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Terminology - time to talk.
On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 19:24:20 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 21:54:23 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi said: On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 10:27 PM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 21:43:05 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi said: there are some gfx mode thgins in escapes. i assume thats used to draw lines using special line characters as it remaps regular chars to these sequences when in that mode - i think. i've never tried the menuconfig/ncurses lines thing in terminiology, so don't know. Thanks to KainX and his expertise I was able to get it working. There is now a vt100 to unicode table I got from urxvt. The key was to understand it may change the charset to DEC's ACS. hmm i am still missing them from jed - must be a different set of gfx chars... it's on a mental todo list to look into it. That seems to be a pain involving code pages, or something else that seems be terminal specific sometimes. I've still not figured out how to drive line drawing generically in my terminal app. No, I don't want to use ncurses, it's too bloated. I'm trying to make an ncurses alternative that is not bloated. My theory is that you can do 99% to 100% of what you need to do using just a few basic ANSI escape sequences. Only a few decades old serial terminals would need anything different. Most of those ANSI sequences are historical bloat that's not needed. Though a terminal would need to support a large percent of them, a program running on a terminal wont. I'm making a tiny library for those programs running on a terminal. So far I'm getting good results with a surprisingly little bit of code, but it's early days yet. Even mature programs can't always cope with these box / line graphics. On the other hand, I've not researched some of this much, only just started it on the weekend. Yes, it worked fine on terminology out of the box. B-) - multiple windows and/or tabs right now this is right on the end of a list of features as frankly i'm not happy with the 1 process goes down and ALL my terminals go thing that gnome-terminal does. as for tabs - don't use TABS... be imaginative. i was thinking a thumbnail-like chooser - wp2 style with a quick select bar with smaller thumb on mouseover the top of the term or something. well, if you have tabs you need fast switch AND fast lookup where you are. So far nothing beats visual tabs for that. if we make the theme allow for this on signals and swallows then i might entertain it - i still think its too early given stability issues. but no bar of tabs by default. option. The switch often happens with shortcut... so invisible. But the lookup that's fine. the intent was to have shortcuts eventually be able to go next/prev term, bring up a grid of them u can then arrow-key select etc. where you are you can easily see with the tab position as in an actual physical file/archive. You also need hints of visual bells or alarms on other tabs -- tabs are usual and unbeatable as people are used to it, even with screen. IOW: let's use the fancyness for other elements, like the wallpaper and font choosers? we can do better than tabs - and i want to try. If you mean something like what passes for tabs in elementary, please don't. It's on no way shape or form better. At least the way I found to do tabs so far on elementary, there was no obvious plain old ordinary tabs that I found. That was a pain in elementary, and I'm not happy with the results. Sometimes you just want plain old ordinary tabs, just like everyone else does tabs. There's good reasons for that. You can get fancy, and do better, but please provide plain old ordinary tabs just like everyone else does first. - made it possible to specify the font preview string, with some PITA chars by default (Ox0, 1xl).. It works, but height is not resizing properly :-/ oooh... do we REALLY want that there all the time? its a waste of space and people will barely ever change it. putting that in another tab might be more useful and space efficient. The most annoying bit that leads one to change terminal fonts is due some specific glyphs -- that we can't predict. Some people dislike lowercase-L as it looks like 1. Some uppercase-O x zero. Some use it to detect subtle differences with a... then change the default string - but the entry box doesn't belong in that pane/dialog. there is precious little enough space as-is. an entry that you almost NEVER change the content of doesn't belong there. in fact the fact that u covered up all of the terminal with the dialog is the problem as u no longer see the preview - that's why i left a gap on the left side to see the terminal content itself when the font changed. IOW: letting the user choose a font
Re: [E-devel] Evas textgrid object
On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:10:02 +0300 Tom Hacohen tom.haco...@samsung.com said: On 19/06/12 12:44, Vincent Torri wrote: it would be nice to have some comparisons with different terminals about speed and mem consumption time cat to all the works of shakespeare ( http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/100 ) is way faster in Terminology compared to xterm: Terminology: real 0m0.987s Xterm: real0m2.784s Urxvt is a bit faster here: real 0m0.660s But raster claims it's not the same for him, and for him terminology beats everyone. :) same file cat here (shakespeare), 80x24 term. same font for terminology, rxvt, urxvt eterm and xterm. gnome-terminal uses monospace font instead but is about the same physical size. lower is better (time in seconds). terminology: 0.277 urxvt: 0.286 rxvt: 0.720 eterm: 1.343 xterm: 2.784 gnome-terminal: 10.686 memory kb after cating the shakespeare file (rss-shared to get real used pages), same number of save lines (2000). all terms have no bg (terminology is default so it has some fancy overlay and stuff but they are all bland/blank). rxvt: 792 urxvt: 1184 eterm: 1952 xterm: 3148 terminology: 4008 gnome-terminal: 4256 note - all terms except terminology display NO imagery. terminology does by default as an overlay, so not quite the same config. also the others share font glyphs and font info, terminilogy loads and keeps its own. both of these will improve with cserve2 :) as such i'm totally chuffed at the fact that terminology is in fact right up there in speed if not the best (results really close at the top), but it beats the pants off gnome-terminal which imho is our real competition and terminology is not meant to be a minimalist hand-configured terminal like most others (eterm is a bit different - its kind of half-way). despite fancy alpha blended overlays of shining glass a pulsing cursor, the cpu totally software rendering it all (no gfx chip help/accel) we are right up there speed-wise. as for memory footprint we beat gnome-terminal which is our real competition level as we also have a full widget set lurking under terminology with a lot of infra support etc. and we also load imagery oursevles into ram which gnome-terminal doesn't. considering this si where terminology is without a lot of optimizing and profiling and effort at a barely-out-of-the-womb stage in maturity vs very old and long lived terminals that have had many years and 1's of an hours poured into them... i'm as happy as a pig in mud. :) -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [Patch][Elementary]Patch for switching in slideshow with no transition effect
Hi, Can somebody have a look at the patch and provide feedback on it. If things are fine, please commit it. This will address the issue related to slideshow transition with no effect. Thank You. Regards, Rajeev --- Original Message --- Sender : Gustavo Lima Chavesgl...@profusion.mobi Date : Jun 11, 2012 19:58 (GMT+05:30) Title : Re: [E-devel] [Patch][Elementary]Patch for switching in slideshow with no transition effect * Rajeev Ranjan [2012-06-09 07:10:11 +]: Hi, Please review the attached patch for supporting simple transition without any effect in slideshow widget. [Current Issue]: transition,end singal does not get emitted when the transition is set to NULL or has not been set. This signal is used normal to detect the end of the slideshow images and is emitted once transition is over. Moreover the visibility of the slides during transition with no effect is not proper as this is not implemented in the corresponding theme. [Root cause]: The visibility change needed for images in theme does not happen in case of no transition effect. [Change Description]: Handled NULL transition setting in C code and sent the appropriate signal to indicate the next and previous action for image slide. Updated sample code also. Modified the sample code to incorporate transition with No effect. Signed-Off-By: Rajeev Ranjan Thank You. Regards, Rajeev Seems good enough. BR, -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Gustavo Lima Chaves Computer Engineer @ ProFUSION Embedded Systems -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Terminology - time to talk.
On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 21:13:25 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com said: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 19:24:20 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 21:54:23 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi said: On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 10:27 PM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 21:43:05 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi said: there are some gfx mode thgins in escapes. i assume thats used to draw lines using special line characters as it remaps regular chars to these sequences when in that mode - i think. i've never tried the menuconfig/ncurses lines thing in terminiology, so don't know. Thanks to KainX and his expertise I was able to get it working. There is now a vt100 to unicode table I got from urxvt. The key was to understand it may change the charset to DEC's ACS. hmm i am still missing them from jed - must be a different set of gfx chars... it's on a mental todo list to look into it. That seems to be a pain involving code pages, or something else that seems be terminal specific sometimes. I've still not figured out how to drive line drawing generically in my terminal app. No, I don't want to use ncurses, it's too bloated. I'm trying to make an ncurses alternative that is not bloated. yes - i saw the codepage escapes - i dont know what to do with them currently. My theory is that you can do 99% to 100% of what you need to do using just a few basic ANSI escape sequences. Only a few decades old serial terminals would need anything different. Most of those ANSI sequences are historical bloat that's not needed. Though a terminal would need to support a large percent of them, a program running on a terminal wont. I'm making a tiny library for those programs running on a terminal. So far I'm getting good results with a surprisingly little bit of code, but it's early days yet. Even mature programs can't always cope with these box / line graphics. On the other hand, I've not researched some of this much, only just started it on the weekend. Yes, it worked fine on terminology out of the box. B-) - multiple windows and/or tabs right now this is right on the end of a list of features as frankly i'm not happy with the 1 process goes down and ALL my terminals go thing that gnome-terminal does. as for tabs - don't use TABS... be imaginative. i was thinking a thumbnail-like chooser - wp2 style with a quick select bar with smaller thumb on mouseover the top of the term or something. well, if you have tabs you need fast switch AND fast lookup where you are. So far nothing beats visual tabs for that. if we make the theme allow for this on signals and swallows then i might entertain it - i still think its too early given stability issues. but no bar of tabs by default. option. The switch often happens with shortcut... so invisible. But the lookup that's fine. the intent was to have shortcuts eventually be able to go next/prev term, bring up a grid of them u can then arrow-key select etc. where you are you can easily see with the tab position as in an actual physical file/archive. You also need hints of visual bells or alarms on other tabs -- tabs are usual and unbeatable as people are used to it, even with screen. IOW: let's use the fancyness for other elements, like the wallpaper and font choosers? we can do better than tabs - and i want to try. If you mean something like what passes for tabs in elementary, please don't. It's on no way shape or form better. At least the way I found to do tabs so far on elementary, there was no obvious plain old ordinary tabs that I found. That was a pain in elementary, and I'm not happy with the results. no - i dont want that. i want to do something more like wp2. Sometimes you just want plain old ordinary tabs, just like everyone else does tabs. There's good reasons for that. You can get fancy, and do better, but please provide plain old ordinary tabs just like everyone else does first. - made it possible to specify the font preview string, with some PITA chars by default (Ox0, 1xl).. It works, but height is not resizing properly :-/ oooh... do we REALLY want that there all the time? its a waste of space and people will barely ever change it. putting that in another tab might be more useful and space efficient. The most annoying bit that leads one to change terminal fonts is due some specific glyphs -- that we can't predict. Some people dislike lowercase-L as it looks like 1. Some uppercase-O x zero. Some use it to detect subtle differences with a... then change the default string - but the entry box doesn't belong in that pane/dialog. there is precious little enough space as-is. an entry that you
Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Terminology - time to talk.
On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 21:13:25 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 19:24:20 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 21:54:23 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi said: On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 10:27 PM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 21:43:05 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi said: there are some gfx mode thgins in escapes. i assume thats used to draw lines using special line characters as it remaps regular chars to these sequences when in that mode - i think. i've never tried the menuconfig/ncurses lines thing in terminiology, so don't know. Thanks to KainX and his expertise I was able to get it working. There is now a vt100 to unicode table I got from urxvt. The key was to understand it may change the charset to DEC's ACS. hmm i am still missing them from jed - must be a different set of gfx chars... it's on a mental todo list to look into it. That seems to be a pain involving code pages, or something else that seems be terminal specific sometimes. I've still not figured out how to drive line drawing generically in my terminal app. No, I don't want to use ncurses, it's too bloated. I'm trying to make an ncurses alternative that is not bloated. My theory is that you can do 99% to 100% of what you need to do using just a few basic ANSI escape sequences. Only a few decades old serial terminals would need anything different. Most of those ANSI sequences are historical bloat that's not needed. Though a terminal would need to support a large percent of them, a program running on a terminal wont. I'm making a tiny library for those programs running on a terminal. So far I'm getting good results with a surprisingly little bit of code, but it's early days yet. Even mature programs can't always cope with these box / line graphics. On the other hand, I've not researched some of this much, only just started it on the weekend. Yes, it worked fine on terminology out of the box. B-) - multiple windows and/or tabs right now this is right on the end of a list of features as frankly i'm not happy with the 1 process goes down and ALL my terminals go thing that gnome-terminal does. as for tabs - don't use TABS... be imaginative. i was thinking a thumbnail-like chooser - wp2 style with a quick select bar with smaller thumb on mouseover the top of the term or something. well, if you have tabs you need fast switch AND fast lookup where you are. So far nothing beats visual tabs for that. if we make the theme allow for this on signals and swallows then i might entertain it - i still think its too early given stability issues. but no bar of tabs by default. option. The switch often happens with shortcut... so invisible. But the lookup that's fine. the intent was to have shortcuts eventually be able to go next/prev term, bring up a grid of them u can then arrow-key select etc. where you are you can easily see with the tab position as in an actual physical file/archive. You also need hints of visual bells or alarms on other tabs -- tabs are usual and unbeatable as people are used to it, even with screen. IOW: let's use the fancyness for other elements, like the wallpaper and font choosers? we can do better than tabs - and i want to try. If you mean something like what passes for tabs in elementary, please don't. It's on no way shape or form better. At least the way I found to do tabs so far on elementary, there was no obvious plain old ordinary tabs that I found. That was a pain in elementary, and I'm not happy with the results. Sometimes you just want plain old ordinary tabs, just like everyone else does tabs. There's good reasons for that. You can get fancy, and do better, but please provide plain old ordinary tabs just like everyone else does first. - made it possible to specify the font preview string, with some PITA chars by default (Ox0, 1xl).. It works, but height is not resizing properly :-/ oooh... do we REALLY want that there all the time? its a waste of space and people will barely ever change it. putting that in another tab might be more useful and space efficient. The most annoying bit that leads one to change terminal fonts is due some specific glyphs -- that we can't predict. Some people dislike lowercase-L as it looks like 1. Some uppercase-O x zero. Some use it to detect subtle differences with a... then change the default string - but the entry box doesn't belong in that pane/dialog. there is precious little enough space as-is. an entry that you almost NEVER change the content of doesn't belong there. in fact the fact that u covered up all of the terminal with the dialog is the
Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Terminology - time to talk.
On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 20:37:37 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 21:13:25 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com said: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 19:24:20 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 21:54:23 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi said: On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 10:27 PM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 21:43:05 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi said: there are some gfx mode thgins in escapes. i assume thats used to draw lines using special line characters as it remaps regular chars to these sequences when in that mode - i think. i've never tried the menuconfig/ncurses lines thing in terminiology, so don't know. Thanks to KainX and his expertise I was able to get it working. There is now a vt100 to unicode table I got from urxvt. The key was to understand it may change the charset to DEC's ACS. hmm i am still missing them from jed - must be a different set of gfx chars... it's on a mental todo list to look into it. That seems to be a pain involving code pages, or something else that seems be terminal specific sometimes. I've still not figured out how to drive line drawing generically in my terminal app. No, I don't want to use ncurses, it's too bloated. I'm trying to make an ncurses alternative that is not bloated. yes - i saw the codepage escapes - i dont know what to do with them currently. See my subsequent email. Think it's a font issue really. My theory is that you can do 99% to 100% of what you need to do using just a few basic ANSI escape sequences. Only a few decades old serial terminals would need anything different. Most of those ANSI sequences are historical bloat that's not needed. Though a terminal would need to support a large percent of them, a program running on a terminal wont. I'm making a tiny library for those programs running on a terminal. So far I'm getting good results with a surprisingly little bit of code, but it's early days yet. Even mature programs can't always cope with these box / line graphics. On the other hand, I've not researched some of this much, only just started it on the weekend. Yes, it worked fine on terminology out of the box. B-) - multiple windows and/or tabs right now this is right on the end of a list of features as frankly i'm not happy with the 1 process goes down and ALL my terminals go thing that gnome-terminal does. as for tabs - don't use TABS... be imaginative. i was thinking a thumbnail-like chooser - wp2 style with a quick select bar with smaller thumb on mouseover the top of the term or something. well, if you have tabs you need fast switch AND fast lookup where you are. So far nothing beats visual tabs for that. if we make the theme allow for this on signals and swallows then i might entertain it - i still think its too early given stability issues. but no bar of tabs by default. option. The switch often happens with shortcut... so invisible. But the lookup that's fine. the intent was to have shortcuts eventually be able to go next/prev term, bring up a grid of them u can then arrow-key select etc. where you are you can easily see with the tab position as in an actual physical file/archive. You also need hints of visual bells or alarms on other tabs -- tabs are usual and unbeatable as people are used to it, even with screen. IOW: let's use the fancyness for other elements, like the wallpaper and font choosers? we can do better than tabs - and i want to try. If you mean something like what passes for tabs in elementary, please don't. It's on no way shape or form better. At least the way I found to do tabs so far on elementary, there was no obvious plain old ordinary tabs that I found. That was a pain in elementary, and I'm not happy with the results. no - i dont want that. i want to do something more like wp2. What's wp2? And elementary does need a just plain tabs dammit widget. Though transition effects are still a great idea. -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world. signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ enlightenment-devel mailing list
Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Terminology - time to talk.
Hello. On 06/19/2012 12:44 PM, David Seikel wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 20:37:37 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: no - i dont want that. i want to do something more like wp2. What's wp2? I think he refers to wallpaper 2. Settings - Wallpaper 2 from the menu. regards Stefan Schmidt -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Terminology - time to talk.
On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:04:19 +0100 Stefan Schmidt s.schm...@samsung.com wrote: Hello. On 06/19/2012 12:44 PM, David Seikel wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 20:37:37 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: no - i dont want that. i want to do something more like wp2. What's wp2? I think he refers to wallpaper 2. Settings - Wallpaper 2 from the menu. Which is nice to have as an option, but does not do all the things tabs can do. So it's not a replacement for tabs. -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world. signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
[E-devel] terminology font size
Hi, Why does my font size in terminology not change? No special config flags. evas configure output: evas 1.2.99.72470 Configuration Options Summary: Engines: Software Memory Buffer.: yes Software X11...: yes (Xlib: yes) (XCB: no) OpenGL X11.: yes (Xlib: yes) (XCB: no) (GLES: no) (SGX: no) (s3c6410: no) Software GDI...: no Software DirectDraw: no Direct3d...: no OpenGL SDL.: no OpenGL Cocoa...: no Software Framebuffer...: yes DirectFB...: no PSL1GHT: no Software 8bit grayscale: no Software 16bit : no Software 16bit X11.: no Software 16bit Directdraw..: no Software 16bit WinCE...: no Software 16bit SDL.: no (primitive: no) Wayland Shm: yes Wayland Egl: no Image Loaders: BMP.: yes EDB.: no EET.: yes GENERIC.: yes GIF.: no ICO.: yes JPEG: yes (region: no) PMAPS...: yes PNG.: yes PSD.: yes SVG.: no TGA.: yes TIFF: yes WBMP: yes XPM.: yes Font Sourcing Systems: EET.: yes Font Searching Systems: Fontconfig..: yes Font Rendering Helpers: Fribidi.: no Harfbuzz: no liblinebreak: yes CPU Specific Extensions: Fallback C Code.: yes MMX.: yes SSE.: yes SSE3: yes ALTIVEC.: no NEON: no Thread Support..: yes Features: MAGIC_DEBUG.: yes Cache Server: no Cache Server 2..: yes Threaded Pipe Rendering.: no Async Pipe Rendering: no Async Events: yes Async Image Preload.: yes Word Cache..: no Metric Cache: no Pixman..: no Pixman Fonts: no Pixman Rects: no Pixman Lines: no Pixman Polygons.: no Pixman Images...: no Pixman Image ScaleSample: no Tiled 32BPP rotate..: no ARGB Software Engine Options: Sampling Scaler.: yes Smooth Scaler...: yes YUV Converter...: yes ARGB Conversion Options: Smaller Dither Mask.: no Line Dither Mask: no No Dither Mask for 16bpp: no 8bpp RGB 332: yes 8bpp RGB 666: yes 8bpp RGB 232: yes 8bpp RGB 222: yes 8bpp RGB 221: yes 8bpp RGB 121: yes 8bpp RGB 111: yes 8bpp Grayscale (256): yes 8bpp Grayscale (16).: yes 8bpp Grayscale 64-pal...: yes 16bpp RGB 565...: yes 16bpp BGR 565...: yes 16bpp RGB 555...: yes 16bpp RGB 444...: yes 16bpp RGB 565 (444 ipaq): yes 16bpp Rotation 0: yes 16bpp Rotation 90...: yes 16bpp Rotation 180..: yes 16bpp Rotation 270..: yes 24bpp RGB 888...: yes 24bpp BGR 888...: yes 24bpp RGB 666 (666 ezx).: yes 32bpp RGB ..: yes 32bpp RGBX .: yes 32bpp BGR ..: yes 32bpp BGRX .: yes 32bpp RGB 666 (666 ezx).: yes 32bpp Rotation 0: yes 32bpp Rotation 90...: yes 32bpp Rotation 180..: yes 32bpp Rotation 270..: yes Documentation.: yes Examples..: install:yes build:no Tests.: no Coverage..: no Compilation: make (or gmake) CPPFLAGS.: CFLAGS...: -rdynamic -std=gnu99 -g -Wall -Wextra -Wshadow -fvisibility=hidden -pipe -march=native CXXFLAGS.: -g -O2 LDFLAGS..: Installation...: make install (as root if needed, with 'su' or 'sudo') prefix...: /opt/e17 S. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Terminology - time to talk.
On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 21:44:57 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com said: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 20:37:37 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 21:13:25 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com said: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 19:24:20 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 21:54:23 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi said: On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 10:27 PM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 21:43:05 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi said: there are some gfx mode thgins in escapes. i assume thats used to draw lines using special line characters as it remaps regular chars to these sequences when in that mode - i think. i've never tried the menuconfig/ncurses lines thing in terminiology, so don't know. Thanks to KainX and his expertise I was able to get it working. There is now a vt100 to unicode table I got from urxvt. The key was to understand it may change the charset to DEC's ACS. hmm i am still missing them from jed - must be a different set of gfx chars... it's on a mental todo list to look into it. That seems to be a pain involving code pages, or something else that seems be terminal specific sometimes. I've still not figured out how to drive line drawing generically in my terminal app. No, I don't want to use ncurses, it's too bloated. I'm trying to make an ncurses alternative that is not bloated. yes - i saw the codepage escapes - i dont know what to do with them currently. See my subsequent email. Think it's a font issue really. My theory is that you can do 99% to 100% of what you need to do using just a few basic ANSI escape sequences. Only a few decades old serial terminals would need anything different. Most of those ANSI sequences are historical bloat that's not needed. Though a terminal would need to support a large percent of them, a program running on a terminal wont. I'm making a tiny library for those programs running on a terminal. So far I'm getting good results with a surprisingly little bit of code, but it's early days yet. Even mature programs can't always cope with these box / line graphics. On the other hand, I've not researched some of this much, only just started it on the weekend. Yes, it worked fine on terminology out of the box. B-) - multiple windows and/or tabs right now this is right on the end of a list of features as frankly i'm not happy with the 1 process goes down and ALL my terminals go thing that gnome-terminal does. as for tabs - don't use TABS... be imaginative. i was thinking a thumbnail-like chooser - wp2 style with a quick select bar with smaller thumb on mouseover the top of the term or something. well, if you have tabs you need fast switch AND fast lookup where you are. So far nothing beats visual tabs for that. if we make the theme allow for this on signals and swallows then i might entertain it - i still think its too early given stability issues. but no bar of tabs by default. option. The switch often happens with shortcut... so invisible. But the lookup that's fine. the intent was to have shortcuts eventually be able to go next/prev term, bring up a grid of them u can then arrow-key select etc. where you are you can easily see with the tab position as in an actual physical file/archive. You also need hints of visual bells or alarms on other tabs -- tabs are usual and unbeatable as people are used to it, even with screen. IOW: let's use the fancyness for other elements, like the wallpaper and font choosers? we can do better than tabs - and i want to try. If you mean something like what passes for tabs in elementary, please don't. It's on no way shape or form better. At least the way I found to do tabs so far on elementary, there was no obvious plain old ordinary tabs that I found. That was a pain in elementary, and I'm not happy with the results. no - i dont want that. i want to do something more like wp2. What's wp2? e17 wallpaper 2 selector. see that for non-traditional ui. And elementary does need a just plain tabs dammit widget. Though transition effects are still a great idea. -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the
Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Terminology - time to talk.
On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 21:41:16 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com said: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 21:13:25 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 19:24:20 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 21:54:23 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi said: On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 10:27 PM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 21:43:05 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi said: there are some gfx mode thgins in escapes. i assume thats used to draw lines using special line characters as it remaps regular chars to these sequences when in that mode - i think. i've never tried the menuconfig/ncurses lines thing in terminiology, so don't know. Thanks to KainX and his expertise I was able to get it working. There is now a vt100 to unicode table I got from urxvt. The key was to understand it may change the charset to DEC's ACS. hmm i am still missing them from jed - must be a different set of gfx chars... it's on a mental todo list to look into it. That seems to be a pain involving code pages, or something else that seems be terminal specific sometimes. I've still not figured out how to drive line drawing generically in my terminal app. No, I don't want to use ncurses, it's too bloated. I'm trying to make an ncurses alternative that is not bloated. My theory is that you can do 99% to 100% of what you need to do using just a few basic ANSI escape sequences. Only a few decades old serial terminals would need anything different. Most of those ANSI sequences are historical bloat that's not needed. Though a terminal would need to support a large percent of them, a program running on a terminal wont. I'm making a tiny library for those programs running on a terminal. So far I'm getting good results with a surprisingly little bit of code, but it's early days yet. Even mature programs can't always cope with these box / line graphics. On the other hand, I've not researched some of this much, only just started it on the weekend. Yes, it worked fine on terminology out of the box. B-) - multiple windows and/or tabs right now this is right on the end of a list of features as frankly i'm not happy with the 1 process goes down and ALL my terminals go thing that gnome-terminal does. as for tabs - don't use TABS... be imaginative. i was thinking a thumbnail-like chooser - wp2 style with a quick select bar with smaller thumb on mouseover the top of the term or something. well, if you have tabs you need fast switch AND fast lookup where you are. So far nothing beats visual tabs for that. if we make the theme allow for this on signals and swallows then i might entertain it - i still think its too early given stability issues. but no bar of tabs by default. option. The switch often happens with shortcut... so invisible. But the lookup that's fine. the intent was to have shortcuts eventually be able to go next/prev term, bring up a grid of them u can then arrow-key select etc. where you are you can easily see with the tab position as in an actual physical file/archive. You also need hints of visual bells or alarms on other tabs -- tabs are usual and unbeatable as people are used to it, even with screen. IOW: let's use the fancyness for other elements, like the wallpaper and font choosers? we can do better than tabs - and i want to try. If you mean something like what passes for tabs in elementary, please don't. It's on no way shape or form better. At least the way I found to do tabs so far on elementary, there was no obvious plain old ordinary tabs that I found. That was a pain in elementary, and I'm not happy with the results. Sometimes you just want plain old ordinary tabs, just like everyone else does tabs. There's good reasons for that. You can get fancy, and do better, but please provide plain old ordinary tabs just like everyone else does first. - made it possible to specify the font preview string, with some PITA chars by default (Ox0, 1xl).. It works, but height is not resizing properly :-/ oooh... do we REALLY want that there all the time? its a waste of space and people will barely ever change it. putting that in another tab might be more useful and space efficient. The most annoying bit that leads one to change terminal fonts is due some specific glyphs -- that we can't predict. Some people dislike lowercase-L as it looks like 1. Some uppercase-O x zero. Some use it to detect subtle differences with a... then change the default string - but the entry box doesn't belong in that pane/dialog. there is precious little
Re: [E-devel] terminology font size
On 19/06/12 15:21, Sebastian Dransfeld wrote: Hi, Why does my font size in terminology not change? No special config flags. We don't do any scaling to bitmap fonts, so if you use one, you can't resize it IIRC. -- Tom. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] terminology font size
On 06/19/2012 02:26 PM, Tom Hacohen wrote: On 19/06/12 15:21, Sebastian Dransfeld wrote: Hi, Why does my font size in terminology not change? No special config flags. We don't do any scaling to bitmap fonts, so if you use one, you can't resize it IIRC. That's it. S. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Terminology - time to talk.
On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 21:23:27 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 21:41:16 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com said: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 21:13:25 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 19:24:20 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 21:54:23 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi said: On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 10:27 PM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 21:43:05 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi said: there are some gfx mode thgins in escapes. i assume thats used to draw lines using special line characters as it remaps regular chars to these sequences when in that mode - i think. i've never tried the menuconfig/ncurses lines thing in terminiology, so don't know. Thanks to KainX and his expertise I was able to get it working. There is now a vt100 to unicode table I got from urxvt. The key was to understand it may change the charset to DEC's ACS. hmm i am still missing them from jed - must be a different set of gfx chars... it's on a mental todo list to look into it. That seems to be a pain involving code pages, or something else that seems be terminal specific sometimes. I've still not figured out how to drive line drawing generically in my terminal app. No, I don't want to use ncurses, it's too bloated. I'm trying to make an ncurses alternative that is not bloated. My theory is that you can do 99% to 100% of what you need to do using just a few basic ANSI escape sequences. Only a few decades old serial terminals would need anything different. Most of those ANSI sequences are historical bloat that's not needed. Though a terminal would need to support a large percent of them, a program running on a terminal wont. I'm making a tiny library for those programs running on a terminal. So far I'm getting good results with a surprisingly little bit of code, but it's early days yet. Even mature programs can't always cope with these box / line graphics. On the other hand, I've not researched some of this much, only just started it on the weekend. Yes, it worked fine on terminology out of the box. B-) - multiple windows and/or tabs right now this is right on the end of a list of features as frankly i'm not happy with the 1 process goes down and ALL my terminals go thing that gnome-terminal does. as for tabs - don't use TABS... be imaginative. i was thinking a thumbnail-like chooser - wp2 style with a quick select bar with smaller thumb on mouseover the top of the term or something. well, if you have tabs you need fast switch AND fast lookup where you are. So far nothing beats visual tabs for that. if we make the theme allow for this on signals and swallows then i might entertain it - i still think its too early given stability issues. but no bar of tabs by default. option. The switch often happens with shortcut... so invisible. But the lookup that's fine. the intent was to have shortcuts eventually be able to go next/prev term, bring up a grid of them u can then arrow-key select etc. where you are you can easily see with the tab position as in an actual physical file/archive. You also need hints of visual bells or alarms on other tabs -- tabs are usual and unbeatable as people are used to it, even with screen. IOW: let's use the fancyness for other elements, like the wallpaper and font choosers? we can do better than tabs - and i want to try. If you mean something like what passes for tabs in elementary, please don't. It's on no way shape or form better. At least the way I found to do tabs so far on elementary, there was no obvious plain old ordinary tabs that I found. That was a pain in elementary, and I'm not happy with the results. Sometimes you just want plain old ordinary tabs, just like everyone else does tabs. There's good reasons for that. You can get fancy, and do better, but please provide plain old ordinary tabs just like everyone else does first. - made it possible to specify the font preview string, with some PITA chars by default (Ox0, 1xl).. It works, but height is not resizing properly :-/ oooh... do we REALLY want that there all the time? its a waste of space and people will barely ever change it. putting that in another tab might be more useful and space efficient. The most annoying bit that leads one to change terminal fonts is due some specific glyphs -- that we can't predict. Some people dislike lowercase-L as
Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Terminology - time to talk.
On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 22:30:09 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com said: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 21:23:27 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 21:41:16 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com said: aaah indeed this is it. terminus fonts work, others dont. now time to find out precisely why and make things work. i know all those fonts have line gfx - its just mapped wrongly somehow. i'm thinking it may be an evas + encoding issue. That was way easier to figure out with terminology than other terminals, so I heartily approve of the font choosing system. in terminology the font selector is now by far the most mature and polished bit. and now it shows. :) effort was invested, and it pays off. a lot of the rest is still forming and getting together at all. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Terminology - time to talk.
On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 22:19:55 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com said: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:04:19 +0100 Stefan Schmidt s.schm...@samsung.com wrote: Hello. On 06/19/2012 12:44 PM, David Seikel wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 20:37:37 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: no - i dont want that. i want to do something more like wp2. What's wp2? I think he refers to wallpaper 2. Settings - Wallpaper 2 from the menu. Which is nice to have as an option, but does not do all the things tabs can do. So it's not a replacement for tabs. does what tabs do when u bring it up. in fact its better as u get full previews. i dont plan on making any regular tabs. i plan on doing this as it'l recycle the wallpaper and theme selection widget code - same thing. just now terminal previews. when i get to it. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] terminology font size
On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 14:29:04 +0200 Sebastian Dransfeld s...@tango.flipp.net said: On 06/19/2012 02:26 PM, Tom Hacohen wrote: On 19/06/12 15:21, Sebastian Dransfeld wrote: Hi, Why does my font size in terminology not change? No special config flags. We don't do any scaling to bitmap fonts, so if you use one, you can't resize it IIRC. That's it. i should disable the slider if a bitmap font is selected. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
[E-devel] [Patch][elementary] elm_cofig, setting accessibility mode
Dear all, hello. This patch is for setting the accessibility mode. I'm not sure that the way to set is proper or not, because the module name is fixed in the code as access_outputaccess/api There would be better way to set it. If you have, please let me know. thanks. hmm. elm_config_access_set(Eina_Bool is_access, const char* module_name) would be better.. isn't it? and checking previous status would be fine to avoid duplicated module value. hmmm. then the patch will have -1 * 90251293450198374 Sincerely, Shinwoo Kim. elm.config.set.access.diff Description: Binary data -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Terminology - time to talk.
On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 21:45:17 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 22:19:55 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com said: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:04:19 +0100 Stefan Schmidt s.schm...@samsung.com wrote: Hello. On 06/19/2012 12:44 PM, David Seikel wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 20:37:37 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: no - i dont want that. i want to do something more like wp2. What's wp2? I think he refers to wallpaper 2. Settings - Wallpaper 2 from the menu. Which is nice to have as an option, but does not do all the things tabs can do. So it's not a replacement for tabs. does what tabs do when u bring it up. in fact its better as u get full previews. i dont plan on making any regular tabs. It's the when you bring it up part that's the problem. Tabs don't need to be brought up to show you the info they display. You don't have to do anything to keep an eye on programs that change the tab text to show you progress or something important other than look up (on the tabs that's not the one you are using right now). You don't have to do anything to see which tab is which when you carefully name them. This is not better for those uses of tabs. It hides the info you want to see at a glance and makes it a separate step to get to that info. Most of my terminal tabs are running MC, some on the same directories, they will look identical or almost identical in a thumbnail that's small enough to show them all. That's not gonna help me at all. Doing something different is good, it's just not better if it removes useful functionality. Your idea is good, it just removes useful functionality that is provided with tabs. It's no substitute for tabs, it's something completely different. -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world. signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [Patch][elementary] elm_cofig, setting accessibility mode
@since in doc Vincent On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Kim Shinwoo kimcinoo@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, hello. This patch is for setting the accessibility mode. I'm not sure that the way to set is proper or not, because the module name is fixed in the code as access_outputaccess/api There would be better way to set it. If you have, please let me know. thanks. hmm. elm_config_access_set(Eina_Bool is_access, const char* module_name) would be better.. isn't it? and checking previous status would be fine to avoid duplicated module value. hmmm. then the patch will have -1 * 90251293450198374 Sincerely, Shinwoo Kim. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Terminology - time to talk.
On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 23:50:50 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 21:45:17 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 22:19:55 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com said: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:04:19 +0100 Stefan Schmidt s.schm...@samsung.com wrote: Hello. On 06/19/2012 12:44 PM, David Seikel wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 20:37:37 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: no - i dont want that. i want to do something more like wp2. What's wp2? I think he refers to wallpaper 2. Settings - Wallpaper 2 from the menu. Which is nice to have as an option, but does not do all the things tabs can do. So it's not a replacement for tabs. does what tabs do when u bring it up. in fact its better as u get full previews. i dont plan on making any regular tabs. It's the when you bring it up part that's the problem. Tabs don't need to be brought up to show you the info they display. You don't have to do anything to keep an eye on programs that change the tab text to show you progress or something important other than look up (on the tabs that's not the one you are using right now). You don't have to do anything to see which tab is which when you carefully name them. This is not better for those uses of tabs. It hides the info you want to see at a glance and makes it a separate step to get to that info. Most of my terminal tabs are running MC, some on the same directories, they will look identical or almost identical in a thumbnail that's small enough to show them all. That's not gonna help me at all. Doing something different is good, it's just not better if it removes useful functionality. Your idea is good, it just removes useful functionality that is provided with tabs. It's no substitute for tabs, it's something completely different. Hmmm, if you use your thumbnail idea as an optional background (toned down a bit so it's not getting in the way) that shows LIVE thumbnails, that would be wonderful. It's still not going to be a substitute for all of the functionality of tabs though. Just gets a little closer than having to bring it up. -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world. signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Terminology - time to talk.
OMG. Look at this. http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-4fe0885bc67d38.29931697.jpg This happened when I launched every-launcher while building trunk on terminology. Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ) On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:58 PM, David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 23:50:50 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 21:45:17 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 22:19:55 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com said: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:04:19 +0100 Stefan Schmidt s.schm...@samsung.com wrote: Hello. On 06/19/2012 12:44 PM, David Seikel wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 20:37:37 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: no - i dont want that. i want to do something more like wp2. What's wp2? I think he refers to wallpaper 2. Settings - Wallpaper 2 from the menu. Which is nice to have as an option, but does not do all the things tabs can do. So it's not a replacement for tabs. does what tabs do when u bring it up. in fact its better as u get full previews. i dont plan on making any regular tabs. It's the when you bring it up part that's the problem. Tabs don't need to be brought up to show you the info they display. You don't have to do anything to keep an eye on programs that change the tab text to show you progress or something important other than look up (on the tabs that's not the one you are using right now). You don't have to do anything to see which tab is which when you carefully name them. This is not better for those uses of tabs. It hides the info you want to see at a glance and makes it a separate step to get to that info. Most of my terminal tabs are running MC, some on the same directories, they will look identical or almost identical in a thumbnail that's small enough to show them all. That's not gonna help me at all. Doing something different is good, it's just not better if it removes useful functionality. Your idea is good, it just removes useful functionality that is provided with tabs. It's no substitute for tabs, it's something completely different. Hmmm, if you use your thumbnail idea as an optional background (toned down a bit so it's not getting in the way) that shows LIVE thumbnails, that would be wonderful. It's still not going to be a substitute for all of the functionality of tabs though. Just gets a little closer than having to bring it up. -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Terminology - time to talk.
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 4:50 PM, David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 21:45:17 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 22:19:55 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com said: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:04:19 +0100 Stefan Schmidt s.schm...@samsung.com wrote: Hello. On 06/19/2012 12:44 PM, David Seikel wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 20:37:37 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: no - i dont want that. i want to do something more like wp2. What's wp2? I think he refers to wallpaper 2. Settings - Wallpaper 2 from the menu. Which is nice to have as an option, but does not do all the things tabs can do. So it's not a replacement for tabs. does what tabs do when u bring it up. in fact its better as u get full previews. i dont plan on making any regular tabs. It's the when you bring it up part that's the problem. Tabs don't need to be brought up to show you the info they display. You don't have to do anything to keep an eye on programs that change the tab text to show you progress or something important other than look up (on the tabs that's not the one you are using right now). You don't have to do anything to see which tab is which when you carefully name them. This is not better for those uses of tabs. It hides the info you want to see at a glance and makes it a separate step to get to that info. Most of my terminal tabs are running MC, some on the same directories, they will look identical or almost identical in a thumbnail that's small enough to show them all. That's not gonna help me at all. Doing something different is good, it's just not better if it removes useful functionality. Your idea is good, it just removes useful functionality that is provided with tabs. It's no substitute for tabs, it's something completely different. The tabs themselves aren't very useful either. All they do is show the terminal title, which is useless most of the time, so you wont be able to differentiate between them if you just sat down in front of that terminal for the first time. At the end of the day, most of us probably use hotkeys to jump between tabs, and that will work just as well in a wp2 context. -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Terminology - time to talk.
On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 17:27:59 +0300 Viktor Kojouharov vkojouha...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 4:50 PM, David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 21:45:17 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 22:19:55 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com said: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:04:19 +0100 Stefan Schmidt s.schm...@samsung.com wrote: Hello. On 06/19/2012 12:44 PM, David Seikel wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 20:37:37 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: no - i dont want that. i want to do something more like wp2. What's wp2? I think he refers to wallpaper 2. Settings - Wallpaper 2 from the menu. Which is nice to have as an option, but does not do all the things tabs can do. So it's not a replacement for tabs. does what tabs do when u bring it up. in fact its better as u get full previews. i dont plan on making any regular tabs. It's the when you bring it up part that's the problem. Tabs don't need to be brought up to show you the info they display. You don't have to do anything to keep an eye on programs that change the tab text to show you progress or something important other than look up (on the tabs that's not the one you are using right now). You don't have to do anything to see which tab is which when you carefully name them. This is not better for those uses of tabs. It hides the info you want to see at a glance and makes it a separate step to get to that info. Most of my terminal tabs are running MC, some on the same directories, they will look identical or almost identical in a thumbnail that's small enough to show them all. That's not gonna help me at all. Doing something different is good, it's just not better if it removes useful functionality. Your idea is good, it just removes useful functionality that is provided with tabs. It's no substitute for tabs, it's something completely different. The tabs themselves aren't very useful either. All they do is show the terminal title, which is useless most of the time, so you wont be able to differentiate between them if you just sat down in front of that terminal for the first time. At the end of the day, most of us probably use hotkeys to jump between tabs, and that will work just as well in a wp2 context. You don't quite understand what I'm saying. Those terminal titles in the tabs is EXACTLY the functionality that would be missed. They contain information that is useful some times to some people. That information is useful coz it's there to be seen at a glance. That information can be changed by the program running on that terminal. It may be very important to someone to see that information when it changes, and not have to do something to show the information. Just coz you don't use it and think it's useless, does not mean others think it''as useless. Tabs provide two basic functions, one is to change to another terminal. I'm fine with that being done in this wp2 style. The other is to provide useful information at a glance, without having to do anything other than look. That's the useful functionality that will be missing. That's the functionality that some people need. That's why we need tabs. Not doing tabs is throwing the baby out with the bath water. -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world. signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [Patch] Fixed multibuttonentry`s bugs
In svn r72484. thanks. On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Minseok Kim minseok3@samsung.com wrote: Dear all, I've added patches for fixing bugs in multibuttonentry. First, elm_multibuttonentry_1.patch When multibuttonentry is clicked, it shows entry input panel. but at this time, there's no code for setting focus on entry. because of that, sometimes it cause a problem when moving focus. Second, elm_multibuttonentry_2.patch When item is added, multibuttonentry's internal entry is relocated and resized. At this time, there was an issue about setting coordinates. When multibuttonentry is scrolled in other widget, it sets wrong coordinates. So I've fixed. Please review these patches. Thank you. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E SVN: raster IN trunk/terminology: data/themes data/themes/images src/bin
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Enlightenment SVN no-re...@enlightenment.org wrote: Log: emit signal to cursor on key down. I usually dislike your graphics, but I have to admit this patch is nice indeed. I'm considering to use it with mild.edc :-) Anyone using mild.edc? If so, do you want this cursor as well? -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -- MSN: barbi...@gmail.com Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Terminology - time to talk.
On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 00:47:40 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com said: It's the when you bring it up part that's the problem. Tabs don't need to be brought up to show you the info they display. You don't have to do anything to keep an eye on programs that change the tab text to show you progress or something important other than look up (on the tabs that's not the one you are using right now). You don't have to do anything to see which tab is which when you carefully name them. This is not better for those uses of tabs. It hides the info you want to see at a glance and makes it a separate step to get to that info. Most of my terminal tabs are running MC, some on the same directories, they will look identical or almost identical in a thumbnail that's small enough to show them all. That's not gonna help me at all. Doing something different is good, it's just not better if it removes useful functionality. Your idea is good, it just removes useful functionality that is provided with tabs. It's no substitute for tabs, it's something completely different. The tabs themselves aren't very useful either. All they do is show the terminal title, which is useless most of the time, so you wont be able to differentiate between them if you just sat down in front of that terminal for the first time. At the end of the day, most of us probably use hotkeys to jump between tabs, and that will work just as well in a wp2 context. You don't quite understand what I'm saying. Those terminal titles in the tabs is EXACTLY the functionality that would be missed. They contain information that is useful some times to some people. That you made my point for me.. SOME of the time SOME people want just a title. SOME. ... MOST don't go run the exact same identical thing so its unrecognisable in N tabs. optimize for the common case first. information is useful coz it's there to be seen at a glance. That information can be changed by the program running on that terminal. It may be very important to someone to see that information when it changes, and not have to do something to show the information. Just coz you don't use it and think it's useless, does not mean others think it''as useless. Tabs provide two basic functions, one is to change to another terminal. I'm fine with that being done in this wp2 style. The other is to provide useful information at a glance, without having to do anything other than look. That's the useful functionality that will be missing. That's the functionality that some people need. That's why we need tabs. Not doing tabs is throwing the baby out with the bath water. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Terminology - time to talk.
On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 23:14:44 +0900 Daniel Juyung Seo seojuyu...@gmail.com said: looks like the image data for an image got corrupted. OMG. Look at this. http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-4fe0885bc67d38.29931697.jpg This happened when I launched every-launcher while building trunk on terminology. Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ) On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:58 PM, David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 23:50:50 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 21:45:17 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 22:19:55 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com said: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:04:19 +0100 Stefan Schmidt s.schm...@samsung.com wrote: Hello. On 06/19/2012 12:44 PM, David Seikel wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 20:37:37 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: no - i dont want that. i want to do something more like wp2. What's wp2? I think he refers to wallpaper 2. Settings - Wallpaper 2 from the menu. Which is nice to have as an option, but does not do all the things tabs can do. So it's not a replacement for tabs. does what tabs do when u bring it up. in fact its better as u get full previews. i dont plan on making any regular tabs. It's the when you bring it up part that's the problem. Tabs don't need to be brought up to show you the info they display. You don't have to do anything to keep an eye on programs that change the tab text to show you progress or something important other than look up (on the tabs that's not the one you are using right now). You don't have to do anything to see which tab is which when you carefully name them. This is not better for those uses of tabs. It hides the info you want to see at a glance and makes it a separate step to get to that info. Most of my terminal tabs are running MC, some on the same directories, they will look identical or almost identical in a thumbnail that's small enough to show them all. That's not gonna help me at all. Doing something different is good, it's just not better if it removes useful functionality. Your idea is good, it just removes useful functionality that is provided with tabs. It's no substitute for tabs, it's something completely different. Hmmm, if you use your thumbnail idea as an optional background (toned down a bit so it's not getting in the way) that shows LIVE thumbnails, that would be wonderful. It's still not going to be a substitute for all of the functionality of tabs though. Just gets a little closer than having to bring it up. -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E SVN: raster IN trunk/terminology: data/themes data/themes/images src/bin
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi wrote: On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Enlightenment SVN no-re...@enlightenment.org wrote: Log: emit signal to cursor on key down. I usually dislike your graphics, but I have to admit this patch is nice indeed. I'm considering to use it with mild.edc :-) Not bad at all for a blinking rectangle :) -- Eduardo de Barros Lima ebl...@gmail.com -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
[E-devel] [PATCH] elementary: Fix typo preventing examples to be compiled
Just a quick fix. Seems like this was not compile tested. Regards, Signed-off-by: Daniel Willmann d.willm...@samsung.com --- .../elementary/src/examples/progressbar_example.c |2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/trunk/elementary/src/examples/progressbar_example.c b/trunk/elementary/src/examples/progressbar_example.c index f24038e..e0620c8 100644 --- a/trunk/elementary/src/examples/progressbar_example.c +++ b/trunk/elementary/src/examples/progressbar_example.c @@ -97,7 +97,7 @@ _progress_format_cb(double val) static void _progress_format_free(char *str) { - free(fstr); + free(str); } static void -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Terminology - time to talk.
On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 00:29:57 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 00:47:40 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com said: It's the when you bring it up part that's the problem. Tabs don't need to be brought up to show you the info they display. You don't have to do anything to keep an eye on programs that change the tab text to show you progress or something important other than look up (on the tabs that's not the one you are using right now). You don't have to do anything to see which tab is which when you carefully name them. This is not better for those uses of tabs. It hides the info you want to see at a glance and makes it a separate step to get to that info. Most of my terminal tabs are running MC, some on the same directories, they will look identical or almost identical in a thumbnail that's small enough to show them all. That's not gonna help me at all. Doing something different is good, it's just not better if it removes useful functionality. Your idea is good, it just removes useful functionality that is provided with tabs. It's no substitute for tabs, it's something completely different. The tabs themselves aren't very useful either. All they do is show the terminal title, which is useless most of the time, so you wont be able to differentiate between them if you just sat down in front of that terminal for the first time. At the end of the day, most of us probably use hotkeys to jump between tabs, and that will work just as well in a wp2 context. You don't quite understand what I'm saying. Those terminal titles in the tabs is EXACTLY the functionality that would be missed. They contain information that is useful some times to some people. That you made my point for me.. SOME of the time SOME people want just a title. SOME. ... MOST don't go run the exact same identical thing so its unrecognisable in N tabs. optimize for the common case first. You where not talking about optimising a common case, you where talking about throwing out the antiquated idea of tabs coz you thought you could do it better. I'm pointing out that better does not mean throwing away perfectly good functionality. Sooo, programs want to display their little bit of text on the term title / tab for whatever reason. Where does this little bit of text go? A tab is the perfect spot for it. You still have not answered the basic fundamental problem, how are you replacing this functionality with your better idea? You are only implementing half the functionality, and trying to brush off the other half coz it does not fit into your idea of what a flash program should look like. Most people are not expecting flash from a terminal program. You can make it flash all you want, but if it's only doing half the job, you can't call it better. Most people don't want to show a video as the background for their terminal. Can't say you are optimising for any common case there. lol It's not like tabs is harder than what you want to do. You just think it's too old fashioned to WANT to do it. -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world. signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Terminology - time to talk.
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:47 AM, David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 17:27:59 +0300 Viktor Kojouharov vkojouha...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 4:50 PM, David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 21:45:17 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 22:19:55 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com said: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:04:19 +0100 Stefan Schmidt s.schm...@samsung.com wrote: Hello. On 06/19/2012 12:44 PM, David Seikel wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 20:37:37 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: no - i dont want that. i want to do something more like wp2. What's wp2? I think he refers to wallpaper 2. Settings - Wallpaper 2 from the menu. Which is nice to have as an option, but does not do all the things tabs can do. So it's not a replacement for tabs. does what tabs do when u bring it up. in fact its better as u get full previews. i dont plan on making any regular tabs. It's the when you bring it up part that's the problem. Tabs don't need to be brought up to show you the info they display. You don't have to do anything to keep an eye on programs that change the tab text to show you progress or something important other than look up (on the tabs that's not the one you are using right now). You don't have to do anything to see which tab is which when you carefully name them. This is not better for those uses of tabs. It hides the info you want to see at a glance and makes it a separate step to get to that info. Most of my terminal tabs are running MC, some on the same directories, they will look identical or almost identical in a thumbnail that's small enough to show them all. That's not gonna help me at all. Doing something different is good, it's just not better if it removes useful functionality. Your idea is good, it just removes useful functionality that is provided with tabs. It's no substitute for tabs, it's something completely different. The tabs themselves aren't very useful either. All they do is show the terminal title, which is useless most of the time, so you wont be able to differentiate between them if you just sat down in front of that terminal for the first time. At the end of the day, most of us probably use hotkeys to jump between tabs, and that will work just as well in a wp2 context. You don't quite understand what I'm saying. Those terminal titles in the tabs is EXACTLY the functionality that would be missed. They contain information that is useful some times to some people. That information is useful coz it's there to be seen at a glance. That information can be changed by the program running on that terminal. It may be very important to someone to see that information when it changes, and not have to do something to show the information. Just coz you don't use it and think it's useless, does not mean others think it''as useless. Tabs provide two basic functions, one is to change to another terminal. I'm fine with that being done in this wp2 style. The other is to provide useful information at a glance, without having to do anything other than look. That's the useful functionality that will be missing. That's the functionality that some people need. That's why we need tabs. Not doing tabs is throwing the baby out with the bath water. I'm all with you here. But I'm far from reaching a consensus with raster on every part of the gui, let's make the basics work and get the multi-instance/tab/window working. Then make it a lib and we can create our own chrome to it... no video, plain boring tabs, simpler config would do very well for me :-) by 'plain boring tabs' I mean about the visual. I want them to be detachable to new windows and movable, so I can shift them in the tab bar. I also want to integrate bells to the tab, so I can be notified when emerge saw something that I should pay attention, or IRC... etc -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -- MSN: barbi...@gmail.com Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Terminology - time to talk.
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 1:06 PM, David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 00:29:57 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 00:47:40 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com said: It's the when you bring it up part that's the problem. Tabs don't need to be brought up to show you the info they display. You don't have to do anything to keep an eye on programs that change the tab text to show you progress or something important other than look up (on the tabs that's not the one you are using right now). You don't have to do anything to see which tab is which when you carefully name them. This is not better for those uses of tabs. It hides the info you want to see at a glance and makes it a separate step to get to that info. Most of my terminal tabs are running MC, some on the same directories, they will look identical or almost identical in a thumbnail that's small enough to show them all. That's not gonna help me at all. Doing something different is good, it's just not better if it removes useful functionality. Your idea is good, it just removes useful functionality that is provided with tabs. It's no substitute for tabs, it's something completely different. The tabs themselves aren't very useful either. All they do is show the terminal title, which is useless most of the time, so you wont be able to differentiate between them if you just sat down in front of that terminal for the first time. At the end of the day, most of us probably use hotkeys to jump between tabs, and that will work just as well in a wp2 context. You don't quite understand what I'm saying. Those terminal titles in the tabs is EXACTLY the functionality that would be missed. They contain information that is useful some times to some people. That you made my point for me.. SOME of the time SOME people want just a title. SOME. ... MOST don't go run the exact same identical thing so its unrecognisable in N tabs. optimize for the common case first. You where not talking about optimising a common case, you where talking about throwing out the antiquated idea of tabs coz you thought you could do it better. I'm pointing out that better does not mean throwing away perfectly good functionality. Sooo, programs want to display their little bit of text on the term title / tab for whatever reason. Where does this little bit of text go? A tab is the perfect spot for it. You still have not answered the basic fundamental problem, how are you replacing this functionality with your better idea? You are only implementing half the functionality, and trying to brush off the other half coz it does not fit into your idea of what a flash program should look like. Most people are not expecting flash from a terminal program. You can make it flash all you want, but if it's only doing half the job, you can't call it better. Most people don't want to show a video as the background for their terminal. Can't say you are optimising for any common case there. lol It's not like tabs is harder than what you want to do. You just think it's too old fashioned to WANT to do it. Exactly and these are the points I'm arguing with him... but he won't listen, it's his thing and it must be good for him and that's it. So far I gave up on this, let's just make it a lib and we can have a old fashioned term for those who want them. -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -- MSN: barbi...@gmail.com Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E SVN: jihoon trunk/ecore/src/modules/immodules/xim
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Enlightenment SVN no-re...@enlightenment.org wrote: Log: xim: add NULL checker + if (!imf_context_data) return; As this is an error use EINA_SAFETY_ON_NULL_RETURN() and EINA_SAFETY_ON_NULL_RETURN_VAL() so people can know when it unexpectedly failed. It would be nice to convert other existing checks to this. -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -- MSN: barbi...@gmail.com Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
[E-devel] [PATCH] CElmProgressBar: Add binding and example for changed signal
This just got in Elementary, support it here as well. Signed-off-by: Daniel Willmann d.willm...@samsung.com --- trunk/PROTO/elev8/data/javascript/progressbar.js | 29 +-- .../PROTO/elev8/src/modules/elm/CElmProgressBar.cc | 38 .../PROTO/elev8/src/modules/elm/CElmProgressBar.h | 10 ++ 3 files changed, 75 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/trunk/PROTO/elev8/data/javascript/progressbar.js b/trunk/PROTO/elev8/data/javascript/progressbar.js index 77ee657..a8de8bc 100644 --- a/trunk/PROTO/elev8/data/javascript/progressbar.js +++ b/trunk/PROTO/elev8/data/javascript/progressbar.js @@ -16,6 +16,7 @@ var logo_icon_unscaled = elm.Icon ({ var bars = new Array(4); var bouncers = new Array(3); var start_time; +var changed_label; function set_animator(on) { start_time = elm.loop_time(); @@ -38,6 +39,17 @@ function bouncing(on) { } } +function changed_cb(obj) { +t = elm.loop_time() - start_time; +progress = obj.value; +if (progress == 0) +changed_label.label = Not started; +else { +sec = (t/progress)*(1-progress); +changed_label.label = Finished in + sec.toFixed(0) + seconds; +} +} + var desc = elm.Window({ title : Progressbar, elements : { @@ -68,6 +80,17 @@ var desc = elm.Window({ align : { x : -1.0, y : 0.5 }, weight : EXPAND_BOTH, }), +changed_progress : elm.ProgressBar ({ +label : , +units : %1.1f units, +on_changed : changed_cb, +align : { x : -1.0, y : 0.5 }, +weight : EXPAND_BOTH, +}), +changed_label : elm.Label ({ + label : Not started, + align : { x : 0, y: 0.5}, +}), hbox : elm.Box ({ align : FILL_BOTH, weight : EXPAND_BOTH, @@ -143,10 +166,12 @@ var el = win.elements.the_box.elements; bars[0] = el.progress_plain; bars[1] = el.icon_progress; -bars[2] = el.hbox.elements.vertical_pb; -bars[3] = el.hbox.elements.vert_icon; +bars[2] = el.changed_progress; +bars[3] = el.hbox.elements.vertical_pb; +bars[4] = el.hbox.elements.vert_icon; bouncers[0] = el.infinite_bounce; bouncers[1] = el.hbox.elements.vert_infinite; bouncers[2] = el.wheel; +changed_label = el.changed_label; diff --git a/trunk/PROTO/elev8/src/modules/elm/CElmProgressBar.cc b/trunk/PROTO/elev8/src/modules/elm/CElmProgressBar.cc index 9a73ff1..ff75acb 100644 --- a/trunk/PROTO/elev8/src/modules/elm/CElmProgressBar.cc +++ b/trunk/PROTO/elev8/src/modules/elm/CElmProgressBar.cc @@ -11,6 +11,7 @@ GENERATE_PROPERTY_CALLBACKS(CElmProgressBar, units); GENERATE_PROPERTY_CALLBACKS(CElmProgressBar, span); GENERATE_PROPERTY_CALLBACKS(CElmProgressBar, pulser); GENERATE_PROPERTY_CALLBACKS(CElmProgressBar, value); +GENERATE_PROPERTY_CALLBACKS(CElmProgressBar, on_changed); GENERATE_METHOD_CALLBACKS(CElmProgressBar, pulse); GENERATE_TEMPLATE(CElmProgressBar, @@ -21,6 +22,7 @@ GENERATE_TEMPLATE(CElmProgressBar, PROPERTY(span), PROPERTY(pulser), PROPERTY(value), + PROPERTY(on_changed), METHOD(pulse)); HandleValue CElmProgressBar::pulse(const Arguments args) @@ -43,6 +45,7 @@ void CElmProgressBar::Initialize(HandleObject target) CElmProgressBar::~CElmProgressBar() { cached.icon.Dispose(); + on_changed_set(Undefined()); } HandleValue CElmProgressBar::icon_get() const @@ -123,4 +126,39 @@ void CElmProgressBar::value_set(HandleValue value) elm_progressbar_value_set(eo, value-NumberValue()); } +void CElmProgressBar::OnChanged(void *) +{ + HandleFunction callback(Function::Cast(*cb.changed)); + HandleValue args[1] = { jsObject }; + + callback-Call(jsObject, 1, args); +} + +void CElmProgressBar::OnChangedWrapper(void *data, Evas_Object *, void *event_info) +{ + static_castCElmProgressBar*(data)-OnChanged(event_info); +} + +HandleValue CElmProgressBar::on_changed_get() const +{ + return cb.changed; +} + + +void CElmProgressBar::on_changed_set(HandleValue val) +{ + if (!cb.changed.IsEmpty()) + { +evas_object_smart_callback_del(eo, changed, OnChangedWrapper); +cb.changed.Dispose(); +cb.changed.Clear(); + } + + if (!val-IsFunction()) + return; + + cb.changed = PersistentValue::New(val); + evas_object_smart_callback_add(eo, changed, OnChangedWrapper, this); +} + } diff --git a/trunk/PROTO/elev8/src/modules/elm/CElmProgressBar.h b/trunk/PROTO/elev8/src/modules/elm/CElmProgressBar.h index a68ad5c..46e3dbf 100644 --- a/trunk/PROTO/elev8/src/modules/elm/CElmProgressBar.h +++ b/trunk/PROTO/elev8/src/modules/elm/CElmProgressBar.h @@ -21,6 +21,10 @@ protected: PersistentValue icon; } cached; + struct { + PersistentValue changed; + } cb; +
Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Terminology - time to talk.
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi wrote: On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:47 AM, David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 17:27:59 +0300 Viktor Kojouharov vkojouha...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 4:50 PM, David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 21:45:17 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 22:19:55 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com said: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:04:19 +0100 Stefan Schmidt s.schm...@samsung.com wrote: Hello. On 06/19/2012 12:44 PM, David Seikel wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 20:37:37 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: no - i dont want that. i want to do something more like wp2. What's wp2? I think he refers to wallpaper 2. Settings - Wallpaper 2 from the menu. Which is nice to have as an option, but does not do all the things tabs can do. So it's not a replacement for tabs. does what tabs do when u bring it up. in fact its better as u get full previews. i dont plan on making any regular tabs. It's the when you bring it up part that's the problem. Tabs don't need to be brought up to show you the info they display. You don't have to do anything to keep an eye on programs that change the tab text to show you progress or something important other than look up (on the tabs that's not the one you are using right now). You don't have to do anything to see which tab is which when you carefully name them. This is not better for those uses of tabs. It hides the info you want to see at a glance and makes it a separate step to get to that info. Most of my terminal tabs are running MC, some on the same directories, they will look identical or almost identical in a thumbnail that's small enough to show them all. That's not gonna help me at all. Doing something different is good, it's just not better if it removes useful functionality. Your idea is good, it just removes useful functionality that is provided with tabs. It's no substitute for tabs, it's something completely different. The tabs themselves aren't very useful either. All they do is show the terminal title, which is useless most of the time, so you wont be able to differentiate between them if you just sat down in front of that terminal for the first time. At the end of the day, most of us probably use hotkeys to jump between tabs, and that will work just as well in a wp2 context. You don't quite understand what I'm saying. Those terminal titles in the tabs is EXACTLY the functionality that would be missed. They contain information that is useful some times to some people. That information is useful coz it's there to be seen at a glance. That information can be changed by the program running on that terminal. It may be very important to someone to see that information when it changes, and not have to do something to show the information. Just coz you don't use it and think it's useless, does not mean others think it''as useless. Tabs provide two basic functions, one is to change to another terminal. I'm fine with that being done in this wp2 style. The other is to provide useful information at a glance, without having to do anything other than look. That's the useful functionality that will be missing. That's the functionality that some people need. That's why we need tabs. Not doing tabs is throwing the baby out with the bath water. I'm all with you here. But I'm far from reaching a consensus with raster on every part of the gui, let's make the basics work and get the multi-instance/tab/window working. Then make it a lib and we can create our own chrome to it... no video, plain boring tabs, simpler config would do very well for me :-) by 'plain boring tabs' I mean about the visual. I want them to be detachable to new windows and movable, so I can shift them in the tab bar. I also want to integrate bells to the tab, so I can be notified when emerge saw something that I should pay attention, or IRC... etc I agree with raster with the fact that having a terminal which shines, even if it does not fit all your needs, can attract people. after that, if we can make it modular so that we can add tabs in the theme, then it's just a matter of work, and we can have both world. these days, I'm more inclined in attracting peope with shiny apps first. After, we can fix things Vincent -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats.
Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Terminology - time to talk.
On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:13:06 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi wrote: On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 1:06 PM, David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 00:29:57 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 00:47:40 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com said: It's the when you bring it up part that's the problem. Tabs don't need to be brought up to show you the info they display. You don't have to do anything to keep an eye on programs that change the tab text to show you progress or something important other than look up (on the tabs that's not the one you are using right now). You don't have to do anything to see which tab is which when you carefully name them. This is not better for those uses of tabs. It hides the info you want to see at a glance and makes it a separate step to get to that info. Most of my terminal tabs are running MC, some on the same directories, they will look identical or almost identical in a thumbnail that's small enough to show them all. That's not gonna help me at all. Doing something different is good, it's just not better if it removes useful functionality. Your idea is good, it just removes useful functionality that is provided with tabs. It's no substitute for tabs, it's something completely different. The tabs themselves aren't very useful either. All they do is show the terminal title, which is useless most of the time, so you wont be able to differentiate between them if you just sat down in front of that terminal for the first time. At the end of the day, most of us probably use hotkeys to jump between tabs, and that will work just as well in a wp2 context. You don't quite understand what I'm saying. Those terminal titles in the tabs is EXACTLY the functionality that would be missed. They contain information that is useful some times to some people. That you made my point for me.. SOME of the time SOME people want just a title. SOME. ... MOST don't go run the exact same identical thing so its unrecognisable in N tabs. optimize for the common case first. You where not talking about optimising a common case, you where talking about throwing out the antiquated idea of tabs coz you thought you could do it better. I'm pointing out that better does not mean throwing away perfectly good functionality. Sooo, programs want to display their little bit of text on the term title / tab for whatever reason. Where does this little bit of text go? A tab is the perfect spot for it. You still have not answered the basic fundamental problem, how are you replacing this functionality with your better idea? You are only implementing half the functionality, and trying to brush off the other half coz it does not fit into your idea of what a flash program should look like. Most people are not expecting flash from a terminal program. You can make it flash all you want, but if it's only doing half the job, you can't call it better. Most people don't want to show a video as the background for their terminal. Can't say you are optimising for any common case there. lol It's not like tabs is harder than what you want to do. You just think it's too old fashioned to WANT to do it. Exactly and these are the points I'm arguing with him... but he won't listen, it's his thing and it must be good for him and that's it. So far I gave up on this, let's just make it a lib and we can have a old fashioned term for those who want them. Maybe one of us might find the time to just implement tabs dammit and commit. Purely optional so he can't complain. B-) I'm thinking of doing that for unlimited scroll back. Apart from low resource usage and speed (which should be a given for EFL developers); I only want a few things from a terminal program. Proper tabs; unlimited scroll back; and if you're gonna use keystrokes for commands, let me disable them so that the actual terminal programs I use can get them. I'd switch to terminology in an instant if it had all three. Compatibility with MC used to be on that list, but with this terminal library I'm making, a MC clone is one of the use cases. So eventually I'll not care less about MC, I'll have my own. B-) -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world. signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats.
[E-devel] Hapy birthday, Jorge !
yes, happy birthday ! Vincent -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
[E-devel] small video with terminology and its cursor
http://www.maths.univ-evry.fr/pages_perso/vtorri/files/terminology_cursor.mpeg Vincent -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [PATCH] elementary: Fix typo preventing examples to be compiled
Hello. On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 16:55, Daniel Willmann wrote: Just a quick fix. Seems like this was not compile tested. Build fix. Nice. Its in svn now. regards Stefan Schmidt -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E SVN: bdilly trunk/elementary/src/lib
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Enlightenment SVN no-re...@enlightenment.org wrote: Log: Elm: fix the widget event callback freeing Removes the event callback list within _smart_del. The current implementation does not care about the node data resulting on memory leaks. Here follows the valgrind log: 16 bytes in 1 blocks are definitely lost in loss record 11 of 168 at 0x4C29DB4: calloc (in /usr/lib/valgrind/vgpreload_memcheck-amd64-linux.so) by 0x522EC34: elm_widget_event_callback_add (elm_widget.c:1996) by 0x5A7AA2B: _edje_emit_handle (edje_program.c:1322) by 0x5A766B6: _edje_message_queue_process (edje_message_queue.c:764) by 0x5A76856: _edje_job (edje_message_queue.c:160) by 0x628C02A: _ecore_job_event_handler (ecore_job.c:115) by 0x6288C1F: _ecore_event_call (ecore_private.h:319) by 0x628D09B: _ecore_main_loop_iterate_internal (ecore_main.c:1814) by 0x628D566: ecore_main_loop_begin (ecore_main.c:931) by 0x4023B0: elm_main (test.c:198) I'm worried about it. The original code says it should be empty, but it's not. That would mean some callbacks are still pending and were not deleted. If that was the case, then if the callback is called it would access the now-deleted memory. Maybe investigate why the callbacks were not deleted? Alternatively you should check how to delete the callbacks and their data. -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -- MSN: barbi...@gmail.com Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E SVN: bdilly trunk/elementary/src/lib
* Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi [2012-06-19 15:28:41 -0300]: On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Enlightenment SVN no-re...@enlightenment.org wrote: Log: Elm: fix the widget event callback freeing Removes the event callback list within _smart_del. The current implementation does not care about the node data resulting on memory leaks. Here follows the valgrind log: 16 bytes in 1 blocks are definitely lost in loss record 11 of 168 at 0x4C29DB4: calloc (in /usr/lib/valgrind/vgpreload_memcheck-amd64-linux.so) by 0x522EC34: elm_widget_event_callback_add (elm_widget.c:1996) by 0x5A7AA2B: _edje_emit_handle (edje_program.c:1322) by 0x5A766B6: _edje_message_queue_process (edje_message_queue.c:764) by 0x5A76856: _edje_job (edje_message_queue.c:160) by 0x628C02A: _ecore_job_event_handler (ecore_job.c:115) by 0x6288C1F: _ecore_event_call (ecore_private.h:319) by 0x628D09B: _ecore_main_loop_iterate_internal (ecore_main.c:1814) by 0x628D566: ecore_main_loop_begin (ecore_main.c:931) by 0x4023B0: elm_main (test.c:198) I'm worried about it. The original code says it should be empty, but it's not. That would mean some callbacks are still pending and were not deleted. If that was the case, then if the callback is called it would access the now-deleted memory. Don't worry. It's not a direct Evas object event callback, just a list with event matching data. The real Evas event hooking happens on widget_can_focus_set(), reaching that list via elm_widget_event_propagate(). If the object dies, you won't have them called anymore. Maybe investigate why the callbacks were not deleted? Alternatively you should check how to delete the callbacks and their data. -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -- MSN: barbi...@gmail.com Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Gustavo Lima Chaves Computer Engineer @ ProFUSION Embedded Systems -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Hapy birthday, Jorge !
Indeed, wishing you a happy birthday Jorge! 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4fe0e7746c2d094aa12st02duc -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Terminology - time to talk.
One thing I noticed when running some instances of terminology it that it is very processor hungry. For instance when running 'top' you may notice it figures among the first ones. This doesn't happen when you run top from gnome-terminal for instance. Best regards, Etrunko On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 1:59 PM, David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:13:06 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi wrote: On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 1:06 PM, David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 00:29:57 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 00:47:40 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com said: It's the when you bring it up part that's the problem. Tabs don't need to be brought up to show you the info they display. You don't have to do anything to keep an eye on programs that change the tab text to show you progress or something important other than look up (on the tabs that's not the one you are using right now). You don't have to do anything to see which tab is which when you carefully name them. This is not better for those uses of tabs. It hides the info you want to see at a glance and makes it a separate step to get to that info. Most of my terminal tabs are running MC, some on the same directories, they will look identical or almost identical in a thumbnail that's small enough to show them all. That's not gonna help me at all. Doing something different is good, it's just not better if it removes useful functionality. Your idea is good, it just removes useful functionality that is provided with tabs. It's no substitute for tabs, it's something completely different. The tabs themselves aren't very useful either. All they do is show the terminal title, which is useless most of the time, so you wont be able to differentiate between them if you just sat down in front of that terminal for the first time. At the end of the day, most of us probably use hotkeys to jump between tabs, and that will work just as well in a wp2 context. You don't quite understand what I'm saying. Those terminal titles in the tabs is EXACTLY the functionality that would be missed. They contain information that is useful some times to some people. That you made my point for me.. SOME of the time SOME people want just a title. SOME. ... MOST don't go run the exact same identical thing so its unrecognisable in N tabs. optimize for the common case first. You where not talking about optimising a common case, you where talking about throwing out the antiquated idea of tabs coz you thought you could do it better. I'm pointing out that better does not mean throwing away perfectly good functionality. Sooo, programs want to display their little bit of text on the term title / tab for whatever reason. Where does this little bit of text go? A tab is the perfect spot for it. You still have not answered the basic fundamental problem, how are you replacing this functionality with your better idea? You are only implementing half the functionality, and trying to brush off the other half coz it does not fit into your idea of what a flash program should look like. Most people are not expecting flash from a terminal program. You can make it flash all you want, but if it's only doing half the job, you can't call it better. Most people don't want to show a video as the background for their terminal. Can't say you are optimising for any common case there. lol It's not like tabs is harder than what you want to do. You just think it's too old fashioned to WANT to do it. Exactly and these are the points I'm arguing with him... but he won't listen, it's his thing and it must be good for him and that's it. So far I gave up on this, let's just make it a lib and we can have a old fashioned term for those who want them. Maybe one of us might find the time to just implement tabs dammit and commit. Purely optional so he can't complain. B-) I'm thinking of doing that for unlimited scroll back. Apart from low resource usage and speed (which should be a given for EFL developers); I only want a few things from a terminal program. Proper tabs; unlimited scroll back; and if you're gonna use keystrokes for commands, let me disable them so that the actual terminal programs I use can get them. I'd switch to terminology in an instant if it had all three. Compatibility with MC used to be on that list, but with this terminal library I'm making, a MC clone is one of the use cases. So eventually I'll not care less about MC, I'll have my own. B-) -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world.
Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Terminology - time to talk.
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Eduardo Lima (Etrunko) ebl...@gmail.com wrote: One thing I noticed when running some instances of terminology it that it is very processor hungry. For instance when running 'top' you may notice it figures among the first ones. This doesn't happen when you run top from gnome-terminal for instance. check with the mild theme: terminology -t mild.edj maybe it's that glare on top of text. -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -- MSN: barbi...@gmail.com Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Terminology - time to talk.
* Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi [2012-06-19 19:02:20 -0300]: On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Eduardo Lima (Etrunko) ebl...@gmail.com wrote: One thing I noticed when running some instances of terminology it that it is very processor hungry. For instance when running 'top' you may notice it figures among the first ones. This doesn't happen when you run top from gnome-terminal for instance. check with the mild theme: terminology -t mild.edj maybe it's that glare on top of text. Nah, I'd say you're using an old version of it. I had it too, but now it's gold WRT that. And Raster, besides the fun we make on the crazy features of terminology, I much appreciate your effort on it :) I'm very inclined to adopt it and help with patches. You rock :) -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -- MSN: barbi...@gmail.com Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Gustavo Lima Chaves Computer Engineer @ ProFUSION Embedded Systems -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [PATCH] elementary: Add elm_progressbar_maxunit_{set, get} functions
Damn !!! sorry raster, I've forget to send my draft answer. I have talked to the author on irc, but I don't warned you to not apply it I've rewrited this patch in a diffferent way and it's already commited. Sorry for your waste of time to review it... but I must revert it. Sorry sorry sorry, I know you are a busy man Best regards 2012/6/19 Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 15:04:40 +0100 Daniel Willmann d.willm...@samsung.com said: thanks! in svn it is! Some more discussion in IRC led to the conclusion that this should be a handled in a signal callback I've attached the new patch where I also updated the progress bar example. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Michaël Bouchaud (yoz) y...@efl.so -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [e-users] Terminology - time to talk.
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:50 PM, David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 21:45:17 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 22:19:55 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com said: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:04:19 +0100 Stefan Schmidt s.schm...@samsung.com wrote: On 06/19/2012 12:44 PM, David Seikel wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 20:37:37 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com wrote: no - i dont want that. i want to do something more like wp2. What's wp2? I think he refers to wallpaper 2. Settings - Wallpaper 2 from the menu. Which is nice to have as an option, but does not do all the things tabs can do. So it's not a replacement for tabs. does what tabs do when u bring it up. in fact its better as u get full previews. i dont plan on making any regular tabs. It's the when you bring it up part that's the problem. Tabs don't need to be brought up to show you the info they display. You don't have to do anything to keep an eye on programs that change the tab text to show you progress or something important other than look up (on the tabs that's not the one you are using right now). You don't have to do anything to see which tab is which when you carefully name them. This is not better for those uses of tabs. It hides the info you want to see at a glance and makes it a separate step to get to that info. So what does prevent the wp2 style tabs to display the title as a subtitle of the thumnail. I don't see any limitation here. It could even be part of the theme and be removed by people that don't want it. For getting feedback on activity on other theme we could do : - when in wp2, blink with some red color the thumnail where a bell as been triggered. Highlight with some other color the term that did change since the last time we checked the wp2 state. - when not in wp2, a bell is triggered in another term, we could get the thumnail of that term and make it float like a ghost for some time as an overlay of the current term (making it possible to click on it and make it the active one). We could also do the same when the title of another term change. All of this are idea, but it proves that displaying relevant information at the right time without the need to permanently display useless information is possible. The only thing is that we need to think how to use everything we have, animation, mouse over, gesture, ... to always display the most important information and do it in a shinny way. We have to create something new here and we can do it. As a personnal statement, I hate toolbar, tab and menu, as they all steal usefull space from what I am currently focusing on. The important part is the content and what is going on with it. Most of my terminal tabs are running MC, some on the same directories, they will look identical or almost identical in a thumbnail that's small enough to show them all. That's not gonna help me at all. Why do you think it's impossible to put the title under a thumbnail ? Doing something different is good, it's just not better if it removes useful functionality. Your idea is good, it just removes useful functionality that is provided with tabs. It's no substitute for tabs, it's something completely different. It only remove them because you didn't think of a way to have them. Now tell me that, it's really impossible to display the term title under/over the thumbnail, that it is impossible to highlight properly the right tab the way you want. As a side note, I think it's good you gave us your requirement, at least we can make sure that they are in the final design. -- Cedric BAIL -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E SVN: jihoon trunk/ecore/src/modules/immodules/xim
Thanks for your comment. I've fixed and committed according to your comment. On Wednesday, June 20, 2012, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Enlightenment SVN no-re...@enlightenment.org javascript:; wrote: Log: xim: add NULL checker + if (!imf_context_data) return; As this is an error use EINA_SAFETY_ON_NULL_RETURN() and EINA_SAFETY_ON_NULL_RETURN_VAL() so people can know when it unexpectedly failed. It would be nice to convert other existing checks to this. -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -- MSN: barbi...@gmail.com javascript:; Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net javascript:; https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E SVN: jihoon trunk/ecore/src/modules/immodules/xim
On 19/06/2012, at 23:21, Jihoon Kim imfin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for your comment. I've fixed and committed according to your comment. I saw, thanks! On Wednesday, June 20, 2012, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Enlightenment SVN no-re...@enlightenment.org javascript:; wrote: Log: xim: add NULL checker + if (!imf_context_data) return; As this is an error use EINA_SAFETY_ON_NULL_RETURN() and EINA_SAFETY_ON_NULL_RETURN_VAL() so people can know when it unexpectedly failed. It would be nice to convert other existing checks to this. -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -- MSN: barbi...@gmail.com javascript:; Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net javascript:; https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [Patch][elementary] elm_cofig, setting accessibility mode
Dear all, hello. I have revised the previous patch as below - elm_config_access_set(Eina_Bool is_access, const char* module_name) - checki previous status - use @since in doc (Vincent, thanks for your response!) Then please review and give come feedbacks. Thanks. Sincerely, Shinwoo Kim. 2012/6/19 Vincent Torri vincent.to...@gmail.com @since in doc Vincent On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Kim Shinwoo kimcinoo@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, hello. This patch is for setting the accessibility mode. I'm not sure that the way to set is proper or not, because the module name is fixed in the code as access_outputaccess/api There would be better way to set it. If you have, please let me know. thanks. hmm. elm_config_access_set(Eina_Bool is_access, const char* module_name) would be better.. isn't it? and checking previous status would be fine to avoid duplicated module value. hmmm. then the patch will have -1 * 90251293450198374 Sincerely, Shinwoo Kim. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel elm.config.access.2nd.diff Description: Binary data -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [Patch][elementary] elm_cofig, setting accessibility mode
I have revised the previous patch again as below - check previous status both is_access and module A cosmetic bug in the previous mail. - the argument name: elm_config_access_set(Eina_Bool is_access, const char* module) Thanks. Sincerely, Shinwoo Kim. 2012/6/20 Kim Shinwoo kimcinoo@gmail.com Dear all, hello. I have revised the previous patch as below - elm_config_access_set(Eina_Bool is_access, const char* module_name) - checki previous status - use @since in doc (Vincent, thanks for your response!) Then please review and give come feedbacks. Thanks. Sincerely, Shinwoo Kim. 2012/6/19 Vincent Torri vincent.to...@gmail.com @since in doc Vincent On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Kim Shinwoo kimcinoo@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, hello. This patch is for setting the accessibility mode. I'm not sure that the way to set is proper or not, because the module name is fixed in the code as access_outputaccess/api There would be better way to set it. If you have, please let me know. thanks. hmm. elm_config_access_set(Eina_Bool is_access, const char* module_name) would be better.. isn't it? and checking previous status would be fine to avoid duplicated module value. hmmm. then the patch will have -1 * 90251293450198374 Sincerely, Shinwoo Kim. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel elm.config.access.3rd.diff Description: Binary data -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
[E-devel] [patch][elementary] module, datetime, remove unnecessary lines
Dear all, hello. The datetime module has unnecessary lines. The datetime resets ctxpopup parent in ctxpopup parent resize callback. But ctxpopup has its own callback for the parent resize. In this callback, ctxpopup hides itself. then, ctxpopup recalculates its parent size when ctxpopup shows itself. So the parent resize callback in the datetime is not necessary. Then, please review the patch and give some feedbacks. Thanks. Sincerely, Shinwoo Kim. elm.module.datetime.diff Description: Binary data -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel