[e-users] screensaver as background

[Wim Borremans]

hello,

is it possible in e17 to use a screensaver as your desktop background?
i've once heared you could do that in gnome. would be awesome if it was
possible.

greetz,

wimbo



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Re: [e-users] screensaver as background

[Morten Nilsen]

Wim Borremans wrote:

hello,

is it possible in e17 to use a screensaver as your desktop background?
i've once heared you could do that in gnome. would be awesome if it was
possible.


you mean like "xmatrix -root" ?

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Re: [e-users] Nautilus takes over

[Stefan Franz]

Andre Grove wrote:

I'm running Fedora Core and am deparately wanting to run Enlightenment again.

Everything works fine until you use Nautilus. your Desktop changes to
the standard background and icons, but still keeps the rest of
Enlightenment running.
My whole reason for wanting to run Enlightenment is to have that
"minimalist" look and feel.

Anyone know how to solve this?


nautilus --help gives you some options

i think --no-desktop will solve your problem



Andre


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[e-users] Nautilus takes over

[Andre Grove]

I'm running Fedora Core and am deparately wanting to run Enlightenment again.

Everything works fine until you use Nautilus. your Desktop changes to
the standard background and icons, but still keeps the rest of
Enlightenment running.
My whole reason for wanting to run Enlightenment is to have that
"minimalist" look and feel.

Anyone know how to solve this?

Andre


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Re: [e-users] screensaver as background

[Wim Borremans]

On Thu, 2005-08-25 at 12:58 +0200, Morten Nilsen wrote:
> Wim Borremans wrote:
> > hello,
> > 
> > is it possible in e17 to use a screensaver as your desktop background?
> > i've once heared you could do that in gnome. would be awesome if it was
> > possible.
> 
> you mean like "xmatrix -root" ?
> 
i don't know. what do you mean by that?

wimbo



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Re: [e-users] screensaver as background

[Morten Nilsen]

Wim Borremans wrote:

On Thu, 2005-08-25 at 12:58 +0200, Morten Nilsen wrote:


Wim Borremans wrote:


hello,

is it possible in e17 to use a screensaver as your desktop background?
i've once heared you could do that in gnome. would be awesome if it was
possible.


you mean like "xmatrix -root" ?



i don't know. what do you mean by that?


~# /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/xmatrix -root

runs the matrix screensaver on my desktop

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Re: [e-users] Nice screenshot, but what program is it?

[Marc Groß]

Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 09:14:02 + Fernando Meira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:



what's using the cpu?



nothing!
I also use the same .eap file to start urxvt on startup and that works fine. 
But starting it from iBar or from the menu (left-click on bg) sends CPU to 
99 - 101%. Having something running at the same time or not, does not change 
anything. It's strange.



i mean if you run top - what process is eating all the cpu? or is it just that
the cpu meter in e_monitors goes crazy by itself for no reason and nothing is
actually eating cpu?



I had exactly the same problem with Eterm. I also tried it under DR16
and everything went well, so I'm quite sure, it's a problem with DR17.
The process going crazy is X (in my case Xorg 6.8.2 under gentoo). When
I had that problem I finally ended up deleting ~/.e after that
everything was fine again. Before this happend, I tinkered a bit with
enlightenment_remote. I'll try to find out what caused this behavior.
btw: The cpu meter acted very strange when that happened: It showed
cpu-usage up to 200%.



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Re: [e-users] Nice screenshot, but what program is it?

[Fernando Meira]

On 8/25/05, Marc Groß <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:> i mean if you run top - what process is eating all the cpu? or is it just that> the cpu meter in e_monitors goes crazy by itself for no reason and nothing is> actually eating cpu?
>I had exactly the same problem with Eterm. I also tried it under DR16and everything went well, so I'm quite sure, it's a problem with DR17.The process going crazy is X (in my case Xorg 6.8.2 under gentoo). When
I had that problem I finally ended up deleting ~/.e after thateverything was fine again. Before this happend, I tinkered a bit withenlightenment_remote. I'll try to find out what caused this behavior.btw: The cpu meter acted very strange when that happened: It showed
cpu-usage up to 200%.Oh.. thanks!
I'm also using gentoo and Xorg 6.8.2-r2. 
I was suggested to check my 3d acceleration graphics.. which I'm not
using. Maybe if I start using it, something changes. Anyway, if nothing
else works, I'll just clean ~/.e Thanks for the tip!
I never noticed the cpu meter going up to 200.. but it reaches 101 very easily :)

Re: [e-users] Nautilus takes over

[Matthias Kestenholz]

On Thu, 2005-08-25 at 13:20 +0200, Stefan Franz wrote:
> Andre Grove wrote:
> > I'm running Fedora Core and am deparately wanting to run Enlightenment 
> > again.
> > 
> > Everything works fine until you use Nautilus. your Desktop changes to
> > the standard background and icons, but still keeps the rest of
> > Enlightenment running.
> > My whole reason for wanting to run Enlightenment is to have that
> > "minimalist" look and feel.
> > 
> > Anyone know how to solve this?
> 
> nautilus --help gives you some options
> 
> i think --no-desktop will solve your problem

You can also set the gconf key

/apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop

to false using gconf-editor or the following command:

gconftool-2 /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop -t bool -s false


Matthias



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Re: [e-users] Nice screenshot, but what program is it?

[The Rasterman]

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 11:46:53 + Marc Groß <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:

> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 09:14:02 + Fernando Meira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > babbled:
> > 
> > 
> >>>what's using the cpu?
> >>
> >>
> >>nothing!
> >>I also use the same .eap file to start urxvt on startup and that works
> >>fine. But starting it from iBar or from the menu (left-click on bg) sends
> >>CPU to 99 - 101%. Having something running at the same time or not, does
> >>not change anything. It's strange.
> > 
> > 
> > i mean if you run top - what process is eating all the cpu? or is it just
> > that the cpu meter in e_monitors goes crazy by itself for no reason and
> > nothing is actually eating cpu?
> > 
> 
> I had exactly the same problem with Eterm. I also tried it under DR16
> and everything went well, so I'm quite sure, it's a problem with DR17.
> The process going crazy is X (in my case Xorg 6.8.2 under gentoo). When
> I had that problem I finally ended up deleting ~/.e after that
> everything was fine again. Before this happend, I tinkered a bit with
> enlightenment_remote. I'll try to find out what caused this behavior.
> btw: The cpu meter acted very strange when that happened: It showed
> cpu-usage up to 200%.

that's weird - it's possible e set up an event feedback loop (it does somethng
that generates an event that  causes e to do that thing again that generates an
event... and so on) but what - i don't know. i havne't seen this. this kind of
stuff i can't debug without help. ir could be urxvt or eterm not liking being
in a utf8 encoded locale and doing x operations eating up cpu on the x side.
i'm not sure really.


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Re: [e-users] E17, xinerama, and multiple root desktops?

[Ron Lau]

> 
> yes - there is an action you can bind to...
> 
> same desk_flip_by, desk_flip_to, desk_linear_flip_by, and 
> desk_linear_flip_to, but thar are called:
> 
> zone_desk_flip_by, zone_desk_flip_to, zone_desk_linear_flip_by, and 
> zone_desk_linear_flip_to. they have an extra pramete are the start. this is an
> extra number that indicates which zone to control the flip on - if this is < 0
> (-1) then that implies all zones. eg:
> 
> bind ctrl+shift+left to action "zone_desk_flip_by" and parameters "-1 -1 0" 
> bind alt+f1 to action "zone_desk_linear_flip_to" and parameters "-1 0"
> 
> etc. (see all the existing bindings). all you need to do is change the action
> to be zone_WHATEVER and add a -1 at the start of the parameters :)


I CVS'ed yesterday and my enlightenment_remote does not have a 'zone-*'
option.
???

anyway, will there be any window placement options (under mouse for
example) in e17?

R.





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[e-users] Switching To Enlightenment

[David P. Donahue]

I originally used Enlightenment back in school (approximately 5 years 
ago) and was always happy with it.  But, as I used Linux more and more 
at home (Slackware mostly, now running Slackware 10.0 on most machines), 
I generally stuck with KDE.  Recently, however, I've been meaning to go 
back to Enlightenment (especially anticipating what looks like a 
fantastic product in DR17).


First and foremost, how will this affect certain applications that were 
built specifically with KDE in mind (K3B, for example)?  I'm pretty much 
a newbie when it comes to the various libraries in Linux, but is there 
anything special I'll need to do to accomodate WM-specific applications?


Second, what solutions exist for VNC-style access to the local console 
display on Enlightenment?  In KDE, I use krfb, which allows me to VNC to 
my local display instead of a new virtual display.  Can something 
similar be accomplished in Enlightenment?  My ideal functionality would 
be something akin to the single-user Terminal Server in WinXP Pro, in 
that I can connect to the display remotely _and_ it gets locked locally 
(currently, with krfb, prying eyes can sit in front of my console and 
watch everything I do, if they were so inclined).


Finally, can anyone point me to some specific resources for 
configuring/tweaking/getting the most out of Enlightenment?  Tips and 
tricks, that sort of thing.  I'm finding a lot via Google, but if anyone 
has any specific suggestions I'd love to hear them.  I'm especially 
interested in useful applications and add-ons, such as Engage.


Any help/advice you can offer would be much appreciated, thank you.


Regards,
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[e-users] Dependencies

[Gabriel]

Hello!

What are the dependencies for building e17 from CVS?


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Re: [e-users] E17, xinerama, and multiple root desktops?

[David Stevenson]

On 8/25/05, Ron Lau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
anyway, will there be any window placement options (under mouse forexample) in e17?R.

>From e17/apps/e/TODO:

* in addition to smart place should add manual placement and place at pointer and maybe a few others.

So I'm guessing that you can look forward to it at some point (^_^)

Re: [e-users] Dependencies

[Mike Russo]

Gabriel wrote:

please check out the www.get-e.org site for all the information you need 
to build E17 from CVS.
some distributions are starting to include it (vectorlinux 5.1 deluxe), 
and others have pre-built packages for other distributions. if you have 
gentoo, visit the gentoo wiki for information on how to emerge the whole 
thing live from CVS.



Hello!

What are the dependencies for building e17 from CVS?


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Re: [e-users] E17, xinerama, and multiple root desktops?

[The Rasterman]

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 08:20:22 -0500 Ron Lau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:

> 
> > 
> > yes - there is an action you can bind to...
> > 
> > same desk_flip_by, desk_flip_to, desk_linear_flip_by, and 
> > desk_linear_flip_to, but thar are called:
> > 
> > zone_desk_flip_by, zone_desk_flip_to, zone_desk_linear_flip_by, and 
> > zone_desk_linear_flip_to. they have an extra pramete are the start. this is
> > an extra number that indicates which zone to control the flip on - if this
> > is < 0 (-1) then that implies all zones. eg:
> > 
> > bind ctrl+shift+left to action "zone_desk_flip_by" and parameters "-1 -1 0" 
> > bind alt+f1 to action "zone_desk_linear_flip_to" and parameters "-1 0"
> > 
> > etc. (see all the existing bindings). all you need to do is change the
> > action to be zone_WHATEVER and add a -1 at the start of the parameters :)
> 
> 
> I CVS'ed yesterday and my enlightenment_remote does not have a 'zone-*'
> option.
> ???

its not a cmd-line option. its one of the bindings for key bindings for
example. listt he key bidnings and see the list and the actions and params and
you'll get it.

> anyway, will there be any window placement options (under mouse for
> example) in e17?

on the TODO

> R.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [e-users] Switching To Enlightenment

[Didier Casse]

On 8/25/05, David P. Donahue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I originally used Enlightenment back in school (approximately 5 years
> ago) and was always happy with it.  But, as I used Linux more and more
> at home (Slackware mostly, now running Slackware 10.0 on most machines),
> I generally stuck with KDE.  Recently, however, I've been meaning to go
> back to Enlightenment (especially anticipating what looks like a
> fantastic product in DR17).
> 
> First and foremost, how will this affect certain applications that were
> built specifically with KDE in mind (K3B, for example)?  I'm pretty much
> a newbie when it comes to the various libraries in Linux, but is there
> anything special I'll need to do to accomodate WM-specific applications?
> 
> Second, what solutions exist for VNC-style access to the local console
> display on Enlightenment?  In KDE, I use krfb, which allows me to VNC to
> my local display instead of a new virtual display.  Can something
> similar be accomplished in Enlightenment?  My ideal functionality would
> be something akin to the single-user Terminal Server in WinXP Pro, in
> that I can connect to the display remotely _and_ it gets locked locally
> (currently, with krfb, prying eyes can sit in front of my console and
> watch everything I do, if they were so inclined).
> 
> Finally, can anyone point me to some specific resources for
> configuring/tweaking/getting the most out of Enlightenment?  Tips and
> tricks, that sort of thing.  I'm finding a lot via Google, but if anyone
> has any specific suggestions I'd love to hear them.  I'm especially
> interested in useful applications and add-ons, such as Engage.
> 
> Any help/advice you can offer would be much appreciated, thank you.

There's a one-stop shop for getting the most out of E17:

http://get-e.org/


-- 
With kind regards,
Didier.


Yum/apt repository for DR17/EFL: http://sps.nus.edu.sg/~didierbe

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National University of Singapore.


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[e-users] Mouse over other applications.

[Vivek Arya]

The new mouse cursor is really great but when my mouse is over other
applications say mozilla , gaim etc it changes shape and becomes like
what it used to be when i used fluxbox.
Any ideas as to how this can be changed?
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Re: [e-users] Switching To Enlightenment

[David P. Donahue]

Didier Casse wrote:


There's a one-stop shop for getting the most out of E17:

http://get-e.org/




Just browsing the User Guide there now (very concise, I must say).  I 
hadn't seen that page until Mike Russo's reply to the "Dependencies" 
email on this list linked to it a couple hours ago.  I figure I'm going 
to set up a test machine and try different versions of E before I commit 
to a specific one on my main machine.  Whatever version comes on my 
Slackware disc, the latest stable release, the latest CVS of E17 (is 
there a specific snapshot that would be best?), etc.


That page will certainly be helpful for E17, and I just found a link to 
eDox that will hopefully be as helpful or more so for E16, but my first 
two questions still remain.  Those were the ones about WM-specific 
applications (K3B, for example) and about remote access to the console 
display.




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Re: [e-users] Switching To Enlightenment

[Alan Trick]

David P. Donahue wrote:
First and foremost, how will this affect certain applications that were 
built specifically with KDE in mind (K3B, for example)?  I'm pretty much 
a newbie when it comes to the various libraries in Linux, but is there 
anything special I'll need to do to accomodate WM-specific applications?




It shouldn't. I know that K3B and Konqueror work fine in DR17 for me as 
well as numerous Gnome Apps (provided you have all there dependencies 
installed). The only one I had trouble with was Amarok, but that's not 
yet stable, and it wast still masked in portage, so I don't think that 
was's Enlightenment's fault.


Alan Trick


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Re: [e-users] Mouse over other applications.

[Alan Trick]

Vivek Arya wrote:

The new mouse cursor is really great but when my mouse is over other
applications say mozilla , gaim etc it changes shape and becomes like
what it used to be when i used fluxbox.
Any ideas as to how this can be changed?


This is because e17 only has control over what is rendered outsite of 
the windows. Anything inside the windows is up to the program itself and 
X11. I know there are some X11 mouse themes available, but i looked 
through portage and they all seem to be masked or something. I would 
love it if anyone pointed out how to get this to work.


Alan Trick


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[e-users] The Monitormodule consumes 99% of the CPU

[Der Lockruf des Kaos]

Hi all,

My Monitor Module from E17 is consuming all CPU Time of one of my CPU's.
So i have still one CPU to work but that's not the Intension. :)

I restartet E17 but that helped nothing.
I've unloaded Modules Step by Step and the CPU got freed, when i unloaded the 
Monitor Module.
I loaded it again an the Load was there again.
I changed the Intervall of the not existing WLAN Part of the Module to 60s and 
the CPU was free again.

Now my Questions:
Can i disable completely the WLAN Part of the Module per Config or similar?
I don't have a WLAN Card in my Computer.
And the Pictures take away some Space on the Desktop and displaying nothing.

My current Enlightenment is 10 Minutes old, fresh from CVS.

Greets,
Christian



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Re: [e-users] Switching To Enlightenment

[Fernando Meira]

On 8/24/05, Alan Trick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
David P. Donahue wrote:> First and foremost, how will this affect certain applications that were> built specifically with KDE in mind (K3B, for example)?  I'm pretty much> a newbie when it comes to the various libraries in Linux, but is there
> anything special I'll need to do to accomodate WM-specific applications?It shouldn't. I know that K3B and Konqueror work fine in DR17 for me aswell as numerous Gnome Apps (provided you have all there dependencies
installed). The only one I had trouble with was Amarok, but that's notyet stable, and it wast still masked in portage, so I don't think thatwas's Enlightenment's fault.

I agree! I also use some apps from KDE and they work fine. 
amaroK sometimes freaks out.. but I'd say it amaroK issue. And BTW, if
you're using under version 1.3, then is stable! I use 1.2.4 but I get
some weird extra window from time to time.. and for two times it just
stopped playing until I restarted.. :)

Re: [e-users] Switching To Enlightenment

[Christian Pedaschus]

do you too have to start kdeinit before using them? (like me)
if i don't, not a single kde app works (they complain about not reaching
klauncher), but with it, all worx like it should...

just my 2 cents ;)

greets, chris




Fernando Meira wrote:
> On 8/24/05, *Alan Trick* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> wrote:
> 
> David P. Donahue wrote:
> > First and foremost, how will this affect certain applications that
> were
> > built specifically with KDE in mind (K3B, for example)?  I'm
> pretty much
> > a newbie when it comes to the various libraries in Linux, but is
> there
> > anything special I'll need to do to accomodate WM-specific
> applications?
> 
> It shouldn't. I know that K3B and Konqueror work fine in DR17 for me as
> well as numerous Gnome Apps (provided you have all there dependencies
> installed). The only one I had trouble with was Amarok, but that's not
> yet stable, and it wast still masked in portage, so I don't think that
> was's Enlightenment's fault.
> 
> 
> I agree! I also use some apps from KDE and they work fine.
> amaroK sometimes freaks out.. but I'd say it amaroK issue. And BTW, if
> you're using under version 1.3, then is stable! I use 1.2.4 but I get
> some weird extra window from time to time.. and for two times it just
> stopped playing until I restarted.. :)


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[e-users] theme cursors

[Ron Lau]

Hi.

The only irk I ever had with e (16 and 17) is that the damn pointer is
so small I have a hard time finding it.

I edje_decc'd the blue-eyed theme.  What can I do to double (or
quadruple) the size of the pointer?


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Re: [e-users] Switching To Enlightenment

[Fernando Meira]

On 8/25/05, Christian Pedaschus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
do you too have to start kdeinit before using them? (like me)if i don't, not a single kde app works (they complain about not reachingklauncher), but with it, all worx like it should...just my 2 cents ;)
greets, chris
kdeinit starts automatically when I start one kde app:

# ps ax | grep kdeinit
 9355 ?   
Ss 0:00 kdeinit
Running...   

 9359 ?   
S  0:00 dcopserver [kdeinit] --nosid
--suicide
 9361 ?   
S  0:00 klauncher
[kdeinit]  

 9363 ?   
S  0:00 kded
[kdeinit]   


 9366 ?    S  0:00 kio_file [kdeinit] (...)

Re: [e-users] Mouse over other applications.

[FORT Yannick]

Alan Trick wrote:
This is because e17 only has control over what is rendered outsite of 
the windows. Anything inside the windows is up to the program itself and 
X11. I know there are some X11 mouse themes available, but i looked 
through portage and they all seem to be masked or something. I would 
love it if anyone pointed out how to get this to work.


Alan Trick


Somebody (sorry i don't remember his name) gave me a cursor theme made 
from e17' default cursor, but using it instead of ALL cursors, so you'll 
have the same cursor over a link, on anything else


It's the best way i found to have a regular theme, even if it's not 
really easy to use ...


http://ftp.spider-serv.net/tweak/curseurs/e17.tar.gz

to install, try the following :
mv e17.tar.gz ~/.icons
cd ~/.icons
tar xvzf e17.tar.gz
mv default default_old
ln -s Enlightenment default

Then, you'd better restart X (applications launched after this should 
use those cursors, but not applications launched before)


Or ... wait somebody write a full mouse-cursors theme based on e17, or 
write it yourself, but as it's not e17's job, don't wait anything from 
e17' developpers



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[e-users] weird when using enlightenment_remote ...

[jim lawrence]

When I load or unload a module I get the following 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ enlightenment_remote -module-load monitor
WARNING: Weird line in resolv.conf: ; generated by NetworkManager, do not edit!
WARNING: Weird line in resolv.conf: ; Use a local caching nameserver
controlled by NetworkManager
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ enlightenment_remote -module-unload weather
WARNING: Weird line in resolv.conf: ; generated by NetworkManager, do not edit!
WARNING: Weird line in resolv.conf: ; Use a local caching nameserver
controlled by NetworkManager
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$

I use NetworkManager   For My wireless connections.  
Why is E reading /etc/resolv.conf ??  

Last Night I removed everything E related.  all rpms  the entire .e
directory and started from scratch.   Eclair still will not run and
the weather module sucks after this latest round of updates. last time
the weather module worked was with cvs version 0807 built by Didler.

granted the Segfults in E are not as prevelant as before but I like
these 2 apps.

System Specs  
FC4 
~ 1.5 pentium M 
~ Centrino package 
~related software

2.6.12-1.1398_FC4
gcc-c++-4.0.1-4.fc4
gcc-gfortran-4.0.1-4.fc4
libgcc-4.0.1-4.fc4
gcc-4.0.1-4.fc4



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Re: [e-users] E17, xinerama, and multiple root desktops?

[Jacob]

Christoph Gysin wrote:


Ron Lau wrote:


Which command line options? (its very usable for me!)



Seems to me he's talking about enlightenments own command line options:

$ enlightenment-0.17 --help
Options:
-display DISPLAY
Connect to display named DISPLAY.
EG: -display :1.0
-fake-xinerama-screen WxH+X+Y
Add a FAKE xinerama screen (instead of the real ones)
given the geometry. Add as many as you like. They all
replace the real xinerama screens, if any. This can
be used to simulate xinerama.
EG: -fake-xinerama-screen 800x600+0+0 -fake-xinerama-screen 
800x600+800+0

-profile CONF_PROFILE
Use the configuration profile CONF_PROFILE instead of the the 
user selected

default or just "default".
-good
Be good.
-evil
Be evil.
-psychotic
Be psychotic.


As you can see, you can even choose to have a psychotic WM! E17 is all 
about

choices ;-)

Christoph


Hello everyone, this is my first newsgroup posting.  Is there a way to 
make individual windows ignore xinerama settings?  For example, say you 
had a wide-screen monitor, and were using the fake xinerama settings to 
divide it in half.  However, you want to be able to watch movies 
covering the full width of the screen (or on the fly go make the window 
recognize xinerama).  Can this be done?


Thanks,
Jacob

PS  I'm interesting in programming in EFL, but have very little C 
experience.  Would you folks have any suggestions on where to begin?  
Thanks!



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Re: [e-users] Switching To Enlightenment

[Daniel Stonier]

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 22:28:39 +0900, David P. Donahue  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I originally used Enlightenment back in school (approximately 5 years  
ago) and was always happy with it.  But, as I used Linux more and more  
at home (Slackware mostly, now running Slackware 10.0 on most machines),  
I generally stuck with KDE.  Recently, however, I've been meaning to go  
back to Enlightenment (especially anticipating what looks like a  
fantastic product in DR17).


First and foremost, how will this affect certain applications that were  
built specifically with KDE in mind (K3B, for example)?  I'm pretty much  
a newbie when it comes to the various libraries in Linux, but is there  
anything special I'll need to do to accomodate WM-specific applications?


As long as you have all the libraries (gtk,qt etc), all your gnome/kde  
applications
will work. The desktop you actually use (gnome/kde/fluxbox/enlightenment)  
doesn't
really affect the running of an application, just how it handles it on the  
display.


Second, what solutions exist for VNC-style access to the local console  
display on Enlightenment?  In KDE, I use krfb, which allows me to VNC to  
my local display instead of a new virtual display.  Can something  
similar be accomplished in Enlightenment?  My ideal functionality would  
be something akin to the single-user Terminal Server in WinXP Pro, in  
that I can connect to the display remotely _and_ it gets locked locally  
(currently, with krfb, prying eyes can sit in front of my console and  
watch everything I do, if they were so inclined).


Sounds like xvnc.

http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/



Finally, can anyone point me to some specific resources for  
configuring/tweaking/getting the most out of Enlightenment?  Tips and  
tricks, that sort of thing.  I'm finding a lot via Google, but if anyone  
has any specific suggestions I'd love to hear them.  I'm especially  
interested in useful applications and add-ons, such as Engage.


http://get-e.org/ has alot of documentation.



Any help/advice you can offer would be much appreciated, thank you.


Cheers,
Daniel Stonier


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Re: [e-users] Switching To Enlightenment

[David P. Donahue]

Daniel Stonier wrote:

As long as you have all the libraries (gtk,qt etc), all your gnome/kde  
applications
will work. The desktop you actually use 
(gnome/kde/fluxbox/enlightenment)  doesn't
really affect the running of an application, just how it handles it on 
the  display.




Precisely what I'd hoped.  I figure I'll still have to test each 
application accordingly, but from what I know of my Slackware distro, 
everything should be in place.



Sounds like xvnc.

http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/



Someone earlier replied to me and not the list with that link.  Looks 
way more functional than the krfb I've been using, and the part at 
http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/#faq-blockdpy looks especially 
interesting as an extra console security measure, deterring those who 
are curious, but not malicious.



http://get-e.org/ has alot of documentation.



All the E17 info I could want to get started seems to be right there. 
And, though I haven't looked at it yet, I'm under the impression that 
eDox covers E16 pretty well.


Turns out the machine I was going to use for testing won't post, so I 
may have to put off this switch for a while anyway.  Maybe I can 
convince my wife to let me put Slackware on a second drive in her 
computer :)


In any event, it looks like I've got plenty to get me started from the 
various on- and off-list replies I've received.  Thanks, everyone!




Regards,
David P. Donahue
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [e-users] Mouse over other applications.

[The Rasterman]

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:29:09 +0530 Vivek Arya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:

> The new mouse cursor is really great but when my mouse is over other
> applications say mozilla , gaim etc it changes shape and becomes like
> what it used to be when i used fluxbox.
> Any ideas as to how this can be changed?

the applications (sometimes) set their own cursors - the wm cant do anything
about this (well in theory it could with hackery but that would break a lot of
stuff - it shouldnt and wont). you will need to deal with the cursor usign
xcursor themes. e does its own cursor thing as well - we believe doing it our
way is better :) (the cursor is just another canvas with an edje object in it -
thus it animates and scale and so on just like everything else in e) :)

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Re: [e-users] E17, xinerama, and multiple root desktops?

[The Rasterman]

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 16:29:06 + Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:

> Christoph Gysin wrote:
> 
> > Ron Lau wrote:
> >
> >> Which command line options? (its very usable for me!)
> >
> >
> > Seems to me he's talking about enlightenments own command line options:
> >
> > $ enlightenment-0.17 --help
> > Options:
> > -display DISPLAY
> > Connect to display named DISPLAY.
> > EG: -display :1.0
> > -fake-xinerama-screen WxH+X+Y
> > Add a FAKE xinerama screen (instead of the real ones)
> > given the geometry. Add as many as you like. They all
> > replace the real xinerama screens, if any. This can
> > be used to simulate xinerama.
> > EG: -fake-xinerama-screen 800x600+0+0 -fake-xinerama-screen 
> > 800x600+800+0
> > -profile CONF_PROFILE
> > Use the configuration profile CONF_PROFILE instead of the the 
> > user selected
> > default or just "default".
> > -good
> > Be good.
> > -evil
> > Be evil.
> > -psychotic
> > Be psychotic.
> >
> >
> > As you can see, you can even choose to have a psychotic WM! E17 is all 
> > about
> > choices ;-)
> >
> > Christoph
> 
> Hello everyone, this is my first newsgroup posting.  Is there a way to 
> make individual windows ignore xinerama settings?  For example, say you 
> had a wide-screen monitor, and were using the fake xinerama settings to 
> divide it in half.  However, you want to be able to watch movies 
> covering the full width of the screen (or on the fly go make the window 
> recognize xinerama).  Can this be done?

currently - no. this though is more a matter for having an option as to how to
do fullscreen/maximise policy - should it use a subset of the screen (making
gadgets and panels etc. visible), the entire screen, or across all screens.
there's work to be done there yet. i see your point and it's valid and worht
looking into - but for now we have much bigger fish to fry :)

> Thanks,
> Jacob
> 
> PS  I'm interesting in programming in EFL, but have very little C 
> experience.  Would you folks have any suggestions on where to begin?  
> Thanks!

1. get more experience with c. you need to be 100% comfortable with pointers,
structs, function pointers, callbacks etc.

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Re: [e-users] weird when using enlightenment_remote ...

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On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 17:12:17 -0400 jim lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:

> When I load or unload a module I get the following 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ enlightenment_remote -module-load monitor
> WARNING: Weird line in resolv.conf: ; generated by NetworkManager, do not
> edit! WARNING: Weird line in resolv.conf: ; Use a local caching nameserver
> controlled by NetworkManager
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ enlightenment_remote -module-unload weather
> WARNING: Weird line in resolv.conf: ; generated by NetworkManager, do not
> edit! WARNING: Weird line in resolv.conf: ; Use a local caching nameserver
> controlled by NetworkManager
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$
> 
> I use NetworkManager   For My wireless connections.  
> Why is E reading /etc/resolv.conf ??  

It's trying to be friendly and read everything for you! :) seriously - e has
its own dns lookup code because gethostbyname is a blocking call. this is
actually only used if making remote connections, but it has to
parse /etc/resolve.conf to know what to do. this means ecore_con is then
capable of doing nslookups asynchronously - not holding the process hostage to
waiting for a dns lookup timeout or reply. it always parses this data wehn
starting up the connections subsystem (ecore_con) but it doesnt mean its making
remote connections.

> Last Night I removed everything E related.  all rpms  the entire .e
> directory and started from scratch.   Eclair still will not run and
> the weather module sucks after this latest round of updates. last time
> the weather module worked was with cvs version 0807 built by Didler.
> 
> granted the Segfults in E are not as prevelant as before but I like
> these 2 apps.
> 
> System Specs  
> FC4 
> ~ 1.5 pentium M 
> ~ Centrino package 
> ~related software
> 
> 2.6.12-1.1398_FC4
> gcc-c++-4.0.1-4.fc4
> gcc-gfortran-4.0.1-4.fc4
> libgcc-4.0.1-4.fc4
> gcc-4.0.1-4.fc4
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [e-users] Entrance instead of GDM

[Ibukun Olumuyiwa]

Fernando Meira wrote:

Hi.
Once you get entrance up and running, you'll need to edit the build 
script and create the entrance_config.cfg.
This file should go to /etc/ and have the user information (username, 
default WM and icon).
I also have the idea that entrance creates new users when a non-existent 
user tries to login.. however, this info may be out-of-date.. or even 
wrong..




This is correct. Entrance will automatically create a user file for you 
when you log in for the first time.


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Re: [e-users] entrace.cfg??

[Ibukun Olumuyiwa]

A GUI configuration tool is on the TODO list. There should be a 
command-line tool a la enlightenment_remote in the near future.


Ibukun

Fernando Meira wrote:

Well,
I ran the script build_config.sh and replaced /etc/entrance_config.cfg 
with new config cofig file. After that, everything was ok. However, I 
think now it's much harder to change anything, because you need to edit 
the script and replace the file (I know that the script can replace 
automatically the old config file), while before you edited the config 
file directly, in a much easier way to apply the changes.


Thanks for help Beber!
Cheers,
Fernando

On 8/20/05, *Wim Borremans* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


On Fri, 2005-08-19 at 23:25 +0200, Bertrand Jacquin wrote:
 > Hi,
 > entrance have move its configuration from edb to ecore_config
which is
 > a upper interface to edb, so there's dependencies while entrance was
 > already depending on ecore.
 > So edit /usr/share/entrance/build_config.sh and adjust it to your
preferencies.

hello,

i'm having the same problem. so i
edited /usr/share/entrance/build_config.sh to add e17 instead of kde.
then i ran the script, i removed /etc/entrance_config.db, but at the
end, nothing changes. when i login i still see kde and no e17

greetz,

wimbo






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