Re: [e-users] Hello and maybe a question...
On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 20:03 +, Martin White wrote: > Try as i might though i just couldn't get used to living without a > file manager. This was dissapointing t me, but i guess the years of > KDE have rubbed off on me. You can run any KDE or GNOME application, including their file managers, in E16. If you're running Firefox, you probably already have the core GNOME libraries, for example, so you could just install Nautilus and go... > So this afternoon i went down the Evidence route. ...But Evidence has some neat features Konqi and Nautilus don't. :) > Things were a little shaky with the source compile and in the end i > gave up with that as i shouve been writing code not compiling other > peoples really. I don't recall off my head what the sticking point was > but i decided to give the SUSE RPMs a shot just for the hell of it, i > could always back it out afterall. > > So, I installed about 7 RPMs (ecore, edb, edje, eet, embryo, evas, > evidence itself) and it seems to be working a treat. Nice one!! > > Did i ought to be overly concerned about the fact that they were SUSE > RPMs? I guess not since it's working, but i don't really want to hit a > problem further down the line on this work machine :) I think i have > to use --nodeps on 1 of the rpms, but that was one of the very first > so i probably ended up resolving the dependencies later on anyway. I think Mandrake has RPMs for some of those libraries in contrib, but I don't think Evidence is there. Maybe easiest to keep running the SUSE RPMs if they don't whine about missing libraries. (.so's, that is. Missing packages are different; some undoubtedly just have different names in Mandrake.) > And finally, is there much more to getting E17 to work seeing as all > of the above RPMs were from E17 iirc? E17 is under heavy development and lacks many features. For day-to-day tasks you might be better off with E16. The only way to find out how much work it would be is trying it. :) At that point, I'd personally compile from CVS rather than use the RPMs if they are at all out of date. But I don't know if there are CVS changes Evidence hasn't kept up with. > Can the two coexist? E16 & 17 that is? If i have to remove E16 then > i'd be reluctant for now, as i say, this is a work laptop and i can't > spare even half a day if it goes completely pear shaped. At least i'd > have to be fairly creative with a few excuses!! E16.7 and older cannot co-exist with E17. E16.8 (current CVS) can. --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e16.8 in CVS
On Sat, 2005-01-01 at 13:36 -0800, Jonathan Charnas wrote: > trick question, how/where do you enable composite in xorg.conf? > probably belongs in an xorg list, but I'm not subscribed to those... > Thanks > John Section "Extensions" ... Option "Composite" "Enable" EndSection I have it right after the module section. -- BAM - "Verbing weirds language." -- Calvin. --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by: Beat the post-holiday blues Get a FREE limited edition SourceForge.net t-shirt from ThinkGeek. It's fun and FREE -- well, almosthttp://www.thinkgeek.com/sfshirt ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] can this be done?
On Thu, 2004-11-18 at 13:47 -0200, Roberto Winter wrote: > I added: > eesh -e "win_op WINDOWID shade" > (replacing WINDOWID by the proper number) to the actions licq should > take when a message arrives. The only thing is: when two messages > arrive almost simultaneously, then the window gets shaded again by > that command... so I have to create another solution (perhaps using > licq's "infofs"). Check "win_op WINDOWID shade ?" before unshading. -- BAM - "When you die, you lose a very important part of your life." -- Brooke Shields --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: InterSystems CACHE FREE OODBMS DOWNLOAD - A multidimensional database that combines robust object and relational technologies, making it a perfect match for Java, C++,COM, XML, ODBC and JDBC. www.intersystems.com/match8 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] how to pop up the Task List Menu with shutcut key?
> BAM wrote: > > >On Thu, 2004-03-18 at 22:32, Zhang Weiwu wrote: > >>I also wish to pop up the Task List Menu (the one Alt+Middle on desktop > >>brings up), but I don'n know the menu name. I don't find a reference of > >>this menu in all cfg files. Does this menu have a name? > >> > >"taskmenu" :) > > > I'm using e16utils-0.16_1 (on enlightenment-0.16.6_1). e16keyedit seems > only allow three types of menu: Root/Winops/Named menu, and taskmenu is > not any one of them. Here's the problem: taskmenu can't be triggered when the parameter for __A_SHOW_MENU is "named taskmenu", only when it's "taskmenu". The other menus e16keyedit supports all use the standard named syntax. Something would have to be changed in the code, I'm afraid. Currently "taskmenu" (and others such as "deskmenu", "groupmenu", etc) are special cased in spawnMenu. So fixing e16keyedit would require either adding a special menu thingy to e16keyedit that doesn't prefix "named" or adding another check for these in ShowNamedMenu. > Because I already defined many personal keybindings, I am afraid > creating the ~/e/keybindings.cfg file would flush my previous settings. Yes, it would. > Another problem: I'm afraid when I reinstall my system I'll lose my > settings because it is in cache. Can I dump cache settings to a > keybindings.cfg file? No. AFAIK, you'd have to do it manually. -- BAM - "Reality continues to ruin my life." -- Calvin --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] how to pop up the Task List Menu with shutcut key?
On Thu, 2004-03-18 at 22:32, Zhang Weiwu wrote: > Hello. I use a shortcut key to pop up User's Menus, just to let it open > a menu named "APPS_SUBMENU". > > I also wish to pop up the Task List Menu (the one Alt+Middle on desktop > brings up), but I don'n know the menu name. I don't find a reference of > this menu in all cfg files. Does this menu have a name? "taskmenu" :) Tip: if you ever want to find out what a key or mouse button does, the place to look is "keybindings.cfg". The middle mouse button is "__BUTTON 2". -- BAM - "The poor, confused cave troll. He doesn't know what he's doing. He just never had the proper guidance." -- Elijah Wood --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] The menus are empty in certain themes. Why?
On Tue, 2004-03-16 at 08:44, Viktor Kojouharov wrote: > Certain themes, and more specifically, all the themes from http://tokyo.cored.org/ > (like detroit_beta), Don't display the text that's in the menus, and neither does it > display any text that's in the dialogues (like the background dialogue). > > Why is this happening? The theme uses fonts you don't have installed. Try downloading the Artwiz fonts: http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/software/fluxbox/artwiz-fonts.tar.bz2 or these, if you want Xft2 compatibility: http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/artwiz-aleczapka/index.php -- BAM - "We must be the change we wish to see." -- Mahatma Gandhi --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] changing menu speed
On Sun, 2004-03-07 at 01:13, Jeff wrote: > I would like to change the speed of the menu system (middle click). > Problem im having is that when I open up the menu then a sub menu and if > the mouse is not just right it will open a different sub menu than the > one im try to access. I really just want the menu to stay up, guess its > because im going diagonally to click onto the program i want ( say if > its at the bottom of the menu. > Any help would be great. Take a look around in "Special FX Settings". I don't think there's a setting for the speed of menu appearance, but you can disable menu animation, control whether E moves menus to be onscreen, whether the pointer warps to submenus, etc. Other than that, try hovering the mouse over the menu name until it starts to appear, and then moving into it. (Spent a few minutes practicing my technique here.) -- BAM - We do precision guesswork. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] User Poll: Desktop Enviroments
On Thu, 2004-02-12 at 08:37, Brendon Ryniker wrote: > > I use E with all of GNOME 2.4 The only thing I've changed is to configure > > Nautilus not to draw the desktop (A hidden gconf key) so that multiple > > desktops work as I like them to. > > > > I'd be interested in knowing this "hidden gconf key" - I have an > ongoing problem (Enlightenment 0.16.6 + gnome 2.4) with desktop > backgrounds. /desktop/gnome/background/draw_background > I like to run 4 enlightenment desktops with different backgrounds, and > to date haven't arrived at a method for achieving this with the > cooperation of gnome/nautilus - that is, my four backgrounds *and* the > desktop icons etc maintained by nautilus. If your desktop icons don't change much, you could use something like idesk, and have it launch "/home/ben/mach/nautilus --no-desktop [path]". -- BAM - Help fight continental drift. --- SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. Build and deploy apps & Web services for Linux with a free DVD software kit from IBM. Click Now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356&alloc_id=3438&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] User Poll: Desktop Enviroments
On Sun, 2004-02-08 at 04:21, Ben Rockwood wrote: > Here's a poll that would help many of us in development: > > Question: Do you use a desktop enviroment such as KDE and/or GNOME > with Enlightenment DR16? If so, which one, what version and > how well does it work for you? And, to what extent? (For > instance, if you use KDE, do you just use Konq, or do you use > the Kicker, or do you use everything with E substitued for KWM) > > Some feedback would be great. We need to guage how many people > are actively using E in replace of the default WMs for various > desktop enviroments. I run E with a minimal gnome2 setup, just gconf and gnome-settings-daemon. Most of the apps I use are GTK/GNOME. Thanks to epplets and the E taskmenu, the only non-E thing I have on the desktop is idesk (which launches nautilus windows). -- BAM - "Just think how much deeper the ocean would be if sponges didn't live there." -- Steven Wright --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] How to add extra mouse button actions?
On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 18:47, Jonathan Charnas wrote: > Hi all > I was replying to some questions for the E-Users list, and I thought I > might just type another email for the list. > I am the happy possessor of a MS Trackball Explorer. Yes, I do like Linux, > but MS still makes good hardware, nothing wrong with that, only windows > really gets on my nerves. > The trackball has two extra buttons in addition to the two+wheel of a > regular mouse. > I was looking around on google, trying to figure out how to configure > those buttons for X, or for E as a matter of fact. What you want is a three step process: get the buttons recognized in XF86Config and xmodmap, and then have them do stuff in E. In XF86Config, configure a driver. From the description you give, I think the example below matches your mouse model. Just tweak it if you connect through a different device, or if the scroll wheel maps to different buttons (for example changing "ZAxisMapping" to "4 5"): Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol""ExplorerPS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/mouse" Option "ZAxisMapping""6 7" Option "Buttons" "7" EndSection Then add have xmodmap set the following: "pointer = 1 2 3 6 7 4 5". You do this with an xmodmap -e command in xinitrc (before the line that starts E) or put it in your ~/.Xmodmap if you have a bunch of keys to remap. Making the buttons work in E is easy. Just put __BUTTON and then the number in keybindings.cfg, like you would with the first 3. You may also want to check out the imwheel utility (http://jcatki.no-ip.org/imwheel/) to use the scroll wheel in old apps. It allows you to map scroll actions to any key combination on a per-app basis. -- BAM - "I hope I die before I turn into Pete Townshend." -- Kurt Cobain --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e16menuedit & e16menukeyedit compilation problems...
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 13:20, John C wrote: > Hi all > I tried to install e16menuedit and e16keyedit with the regular make make > install, and I get a list of errors joined in the file... I dunno what's > wrong, and I don't have too much time to figure it out either, exam week... > It seems as I'm missing lots of things here... if you can tell me what > packages I need to install I'd be very happy. According to your error log, you don't have gtk 1.x and X installed. Did you not install the *devel* rpms? (redhat and many other distros have several packages per library, one just for running stuff and other needed for compiling) If you do have the devel rpms, maybe stuff got put in a weird prefix for some reason. Have you tried compiling anything else? > 16.6-1-rh9 as I've stated in previous mails, and now I'm having trouble > installing the evidence 0.9.7 rpm... it won't locate libjpeg, libpng and > evas, whereas I'm certain I have all of them installed, and up to date, What's the output of the following commands: gtk-config --cflags libpng-config --prefix pkg-config --modversion evas locate Xlib.h If one or more of these give errors, your packages aren't installed right. > > __ > /bin/sh: line 1: gtk-config: command not found > viewer.c:1:21: gtk/gtk.h: No such file or directory > viewer.c:5:22: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory > viewer.c:6:22: gdk/gdkx.h: No such file or directory These are the only errors that matter, btw. -- BAM - Life is a whim of several billion cells to be you for a while. --- This SF. Net email is sponsored by: GoToMyPC GoToMyPC is the fast, easy and secure way to access your computer from any Web browser or wireless device. Click here to Try it Free! https://www.gotomypc.com/tr/OSDN/AW/Q4_2003/t/g22lp?Target=mm/g22lp.tmpl ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Changing title of Eterm at runtime
On Fri, 2003-10-31 at 08:20, Carsten Schlipf wrote: > What I want to do, is to change the title to the current path. KDE's > konsole does this automatically. For xterm I can use xtermset. But I > haven't found something similar for Eterm. xtermset should work. I use this script, where ^[ is control escape and ^G is control G: echo -n "^[]0;$1^G" -- BAM - "To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism; to steal from many is research." -- Steven Wright --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Some themes just don't know when to quit!
On Fri, 2003-10-31 at 08:08, Peter N. Spotts wrote: > Folks, > > Even after I > removed the offending theme, I still get its borders around the pager > and icon box. What configuration file do I need to inspect and alter by > hand to get my theme changes resynchronized? That's strange. Did you remove the expanded theme as well as the .etheme? Do your new themes have different names for these borders? I guess you might have something stuck in your cache. Try Maintenance->Purge all caches, then restart. -- BAM - "Who wouldn't be interested in everything we do?!" -- Calvin --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Transperancy
On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 17:50, Justin Parker wrote: > I'm trying to find out if Eterm can be configured to be transparent. I > realize it can be transparent to the desktop but can it be transparent > to other applications and windows? No. Currently the only way to do this is my grabbing a snapshot of the screen and drawing on top of that (what KDE does). Of course, when the part of the screen under the Eterm changes, the effect is ruined. -- BAM - "I'm not crazy, but I think the voice in my head might be." -- Chris Bishop --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The SF.net Donation Program. Do you like what SourceForge.net is doing for the Open Source Community? Make a contribution, and help us add new features and functionality. Click here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Epplet or not ?
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 15:19, Sebastian Azubel wrote: > In freeshmeat looking that incredibles themes.. i noted some few with > some kind of epplets like a monitor epplet ( cpu memory etc.. ) all > together in a vertical position, one of that themes is the "Absolutle > blue" ... so what is the name of that eppler ( or whatever ) and i can > i get it...? No, it's not an epplet. I think you're talking about GKrellM: http://web.wt.net/~billw/gkrellm/gkrellm.html There's a plugins page on that site where you can find additional monitors (plugins) and themes, and you can also do a search on freshmeat. Many popular E themes have gkrellm ports. -- BAM - "If you couldn't find any weirdness, maybe we'll just have to make some!" -- Calvin --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Epplets
On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 14:30, Anton wrote: > Hi! > I use Enlightenment but I cant find epplets for it. :( > Does anyboby know where they can be downloaded? > Thanks http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/enlightenment/epplet-base-0.5.tar.gz But you might want to use CVS, especially if you're using a 0.16.6-pre release. -- BAM - "Being trampled to death by passengers while driving is not easy, and requires a great deal of practice." -- MenTaLguY --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa0013ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] background
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 02:49, roland wrote: > Hi! > > I would like to change the E background picture with a shellscript or a > cron entry. > Is there a way to tell E to reload it? http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=5035359 or E-Slides. -- BAM - "What happens if you get scared half to death twice?" -- Steven Wright --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa0013ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E-Clipboard
On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 09:29, Nathan wrote: > Hey all! > > I was wondering if anyone knows if there is some sort of add-in or > small application to add clipboard-type functionality to > enlightenment. I know that you can highlight and middle-click, but > sometimes that is a pain, and get confusing if you are going from one > workspace to another. I was wondering if there is something similar > to the klipper or something where you can cut and paste with a > shortcut key, and cut/copy multiple things and then select which one > you want to paste. Copy and paste is an X thing: http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/clipboards-spec/clipboards.txt There's no E-specific clipboard viewer. Just use klipper or gnome clipboard manager if you want one. -- BAM - "I say, if your knees aren't green by the end of the day, you ought to seriously re-examine your life." -- Calvin --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa0013ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Customizing Behaviour of Desktop menus
On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 17:20, Carsten Schlipf wrote: > Hi List, > > does anyone of you know, if it's possible to customize the behaviour of > the desktop menus? What I want to achieve is the following: e16keyedit doesn't support editing of the right section of ~/.enlightenment/keybindings.cfg, so you have to do it manually. Look for DESKBINDINGS and switch around the __BUTTON, __MODIFIER_KEY, and __ACTION sections. -- BAM - "A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." -- Bertrand de Jouvenel --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa0013ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Creating a global hot-key combination.
On Mon, 2003-06-30 at 17:02, Jamie Love wrote: > Hi all, > > I have played with various other WM in the 6 years I have been using > Enlightenment, and although these forays have only been short, I have > noticed one nice feature of a number of other WM. Specifically, it is > the ability to assign a hot-key combination that works whatever app has > the focus to, for example, load a new Eterm up. Either download e16keyedit or copy your global keybindings file into ~/.enlightenment/ and edit it. -- BAM - Q: What is the difference between Mechanical Engineers and Civil Engineers? A: Mechanical Engineers build weapons. Civil Engineers build targets. --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa0016ave/direct;at.asp_061203_01/01 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] only root can start enlightenment
On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 14:57, Andrew Elcock wrote: > do you not mean it will not like other window managers? > It copes perfectly well with any session manager. Quoting from the E FAQ page 5 (GNOME Setup part 2): "Warning: Enlightenment is slower when run from a session manager. You should opt to run enlightenment and have enlightenment be your session manager instead of running gnome-session. You can start "panel" and "gmc" by hand" Basically, always launch GNOME from E rather than vice versa. Search the list archives; this comes up occasionally. Yes, I was wrong in that E's Remember is a better way to get a panel and fm running (also the exec thing...). I have it this way because I don't always use the panel, so I comment it out. -- BAM - "Always remember to pillage BEFORE you burn." -- Anonymous --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: INetU Attention Web Developers & Consultants: Become An INetU Hosting Partner. Refer Dedicated Servers. We Manage Them. You Get 10% Monthly Commission! INetU Dedicated Managed Hosting http://www.inetu.net/partner/index.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] only root can start enlightenment
On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 00:36, Paul Johnson wrote: > All that stuff is wrong. > > Your .Xclients should none of this if you are a Gnome user. > Just delete that whole file you are fiddling with, startX, and then let > the Gnome session management do what it needs to do for you. Kill the > existing window manager, run enlightenment, then save settings on exit. E will not like you if you use another session manager. -- BAM - I live the way I type; fast, with a lot of mistacks. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: INetU Attention Web Developers & Consultants: Become An INetU Hosting Partner. Refer Dedicated Servers. We Manage Them. You Get 10% Monthly Commission! INetU Dedicated Managed Hosting http://www.inetu.net/partner/index.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] only root can start enlightenment
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 23:32, glenn greenfield wrote: > I think I was oblivious to the fact that a window manager and a desktop environment > were not one and > the same thing. :) This example is for GNOME 2: exec gnome-settings-daemon & exec gconfd-1 & exec nautilus & exec gnome-panel & exec /usr/local/enlightenment/bin/enlightenment > > Thanks Lazlo Sorry -- Lazlo Babai is a professor at the University of Chicago who was quoted by my random sig script. The "BAM" part is my initials: -- BAM - I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV! --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: INetU Attention Web Developers & Consultants: Become An INetU Hosting Partner. Refer Dedicated Servers. We Manage Them. You Get 10% Monthly Commission! INetU Dedicated Managed Hosting http://www.inetu.net/partner/index.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] only root can start enlightenment
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 19:16, glenn greenfield wrote: > Hi, > > I have managed to install enlightenment. When I entered 'enlightenment' into a > terminal it brings up a window- "Another Window > Manager is alrady running" and it has the option of editing user start up files. I > let enlightenment edit those files > automatically which worked great for root but I can't get enlightenment to start for > any users. What should I do? I presume this to be > a common question but I can't find the answer in man enlightenment nor searching > through the mailing list archives. Any help > would be greatly appreciated. THank you. Check the ~/.xinitrc (or ~/.xsession or ~/.Xclients) for the user in question. Make sure they don't start any other wms (stand alone or as part of GNOME/KDE). If they do, comment out that line and put E in instead. If E is working for root, look at root's .xinitrc and see if you can use it as an example. KDE and GNOME start their own window managers. If you want to use them, it's best to start E first and then start your panels and file manager. You can try changing the wm they load, but this can cause race conditions and other problems. If all else fails, your distro may have a system-wide configuration for selecting a WM. Try running it or finding the file it uses (eg /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc). -- BAM - "Life is polynomial time." -- Laszlo Babai --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: INetU Attention Web Developers & Consultants: Become An INetU Hosting Partner. Refer Dedicated Servers. We Manage Them. You Get 10% Monthly Commission! INetU Dedicated Managed Hosting http://www.inetu.net/partner/index.php ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] eterm problem
On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 16:27, SimsJS wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I am new to enlightenment but been with line for a while now (more than 5 > yrs). Anyway, I have been using Eterm as my terminal the past few days and > today I opened TightVNC (which opens Eterm to run) and now everytime I run > Eterm it opens TightVNC for a connection to a vnc server. I wanted to know > first how this happened, and finally how do I fix this? I tried running Eterm > from the command line but it does the same thing. Did you save your settings? Look in ~/.Eterm for user.cfg and theme.cfg files. > Oh yeah, and if you happen to know how to edit the application menu I would be > greatly appreciative. 1. Manually edit the *.menu files in ~/.enlightenment (hard). 2. Use e16menuedit (easy). -- BAM - Ever stop to think, and forget to start again? --- This SF.net email is sponsored by:Crypto Challenge is now open! Get cracking and register here for some mind boggling fun and the chance of winning an Apple iPod: http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?thaw0031en ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Disappearing pagers
On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 18:21, gavron wrote: > Hello, > > Since I started using E-themes a couple of days ago I have been plagued > by a case of disappearing pagers. I run E! with eight desktops and > little by little the number of visible pagers slowly goes down leaving > 2-3 of them visible. I also noticed that on some occasions some of my Are they moving off screen? If so, you can use eesh's "win_op WINID move" to get them back. > pagers mini-windows lose their decorations leaving a plain widget with > four grey narrow bands. I believe it is a middle click on the border This might happen if your pager is using a border called PAGER and you switch to a theme with no board with that name. Try Alt+Right click on the pager to bring up the window menu and setting a new border style. -- BAM - Oh, no! Not ANOTHER learning experience! --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Keyboard-driven theme
On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 18:27, gavron wrote: > Hello, > > Would anyone know of a reliable theme that has keyboard shortcuts > defined for most common actions such as iconifying, shading, maximizing, > etc.. windows and accessing/navigating menus for instance. Try __ACTION __A_ICONIFY, __ACTION __A_SHADE, __ACTION __A_MAX_SIZE, etc. It's not clear what you want to do with menus. You can bring them up with __A_SHOW_MENU. > I looked at the keybindings.cfg file but have not been able to figure > out much so far and a working example would help. Look at the comments in E's default keybindings.cfg. $EROOT/config/keybindings.cfg. Or use e16keyedit. -- BAM - I live the way I type; fast, with a lot of mistacks. --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] window style remember problem
On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 02:25, Michal Liptak wrote: > Thanks, the windowmatches helped.. > However I think the Remember thing in E is kind of non-intuitive if it > works the way you mentioned.. It works well for most tasks, but certain things make it fall down. Keep in mind that when it was written it was a "state-of-the-art" feature, and for that method it's still one of the best. It's an X limitation that E has to live with. > And another thing - please post only to the list so I don't get > multiple copies of emails.. (a REAL email client Sylpheed does the > trick for you ;) Hey -- the Ximian people have gotten into enough fights about that already :). -- BAM - Calvin: Sometimes when I'm talking, my words can't keep up with my thoughts. I wonder why we think faster than we speak. Hobbes: Probably so we can think twice. --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
RE: [e-users] window style remember problem
On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 16:10, M. Neumann wrote: > I have the same problem however, with Eterms... Eterm has a -x switch for borderless-ness. Windowmatches are probably best for the wterms. > > Can you clarify "Remember only applies to windoes opened in similar order to > the one the info was saved for." for me please? It sounds more complicated than it is, but I'll waste time and explain it with a crazy metaphor anyway. Cars are windows, rows are apps. Picture parking spaces in front of a building. Each row has parking spaces numbered 1 to infinity, from left to right. Each employee has a row number they must park in, but parks in a different space every day by choosing the first space open. So if they get to work in the same order they'll end up with the same space each day, but they aren't actually assigned a space. Similarly, if somebody leaves early, the next person in the lot gets their space and any baggage that comes with it. I used to use remember to position my Evolution windows, but every new version kept changing the order the windows opened and remember positioned the wrong windows. I could fight this, but I now let Evolution open wherever it wants. > > I've noticed that in one virtual desktop, it will work fine...switch to > another... Borderless, go back to the other, works fine... I have done the > "remember" settings things, numerous times... > > Also, "You can open a whole bunch of wterms at once and set remember for all > of them." ... Will that save those settings even after I close them all? So > like if I opened say...10 Eterms... Set them all, great. Closed them... And > reopening no more than 5 of them, would they all retain the remembered, > bordered, setting? Yes. Probably. No WM has a perfect remember system, which is why the GNOME folks ditched it for their new WM. Many apps now remember their own positions. What's really annoying is that E16 gives the app it's position including the window decorations, which makes apps that rely on this request positions a little off. -- BAM - I took an IQ test and the results were negative. --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] window style remember problem
On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 15:31, Massimo Maiurana wrote:
> you have to set a windowmatch
Windowmatches... forgot about those (including the ones I made years
ago
> in your theme's dir there should be a file called 'windowmatches.cfg'.
> simply edit it to add the behavior you need.
Actually there's an easier way to do this. Instead of editing the theme
create a new file called windowmatches.cfg in your ~/.enlightenment dir.
The windowmatches.cfg in Brushed Metal explains the general format, but
most of the commands are self-explanatory.
Make sure the file starts with the line:
#include
There are shortcuts for common actions so you don't need the huge
blocks. Either of these two lines should do it all. Replace wterm with
Eterm to match Eterms.
USE_BORDER_FOR_CLIENT_WITH_NAME("*wterm*", "BORDERLESS")
USE_BORDER_FOR_CLIENT_WITH_CLASS("*wterm*", "BORDERLESS")
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Re: [e-users] window style remember problem
On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 09:14, m. wrote: > I have this problem: > I start terminal wter as this: > "Wterm" NULL exec "/usr/local/bin/wterm -tr -sh -font 6x13 -fg white -bg blue -sb >-st -sl 2000" > > Then I do Alt + right mouse and set the 'Set border style' to 'BORDERLESS'. > Border disappears - that's fine. > Then I do Alt + right mouse and click 'Remember' - check 'Border style' and press OK. > > I guess it should be remembered now (for all wterms). Easy mistake to make. Remember only applies to windoes opened in similar order to the one the info was saved for. For example, if you close all wterms and open one, it'll be borderless. But the second one doesn't match the pattern remember has stored, so it doesn't get borderless-ness. But if you close the first one the next wterm you open will be borderless even if you leave the second one open. > I open another wterm and it HAS border.. how do I set this property for all wterms? You can open a whole bunch of wterms at once and set remember for all of them. Or you can write a eesh script that applies your settings and have wterm execute it at launch. -- BAM - The real fun of living wisely is that you get to be smug about it. -- Calvin --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] (no subject)
On Mon, 2003-01-13 at 17:29, Matthew A. R. Sherian wrote: > I have Gnome2 and am running e16. The trick is to start gnome-panel, > then alt+left-click and make the panel sticky and have it skip the > window list. Then remember all settings of the panel It will behave > more normally. The task lists do not work nor do the pagers for > Gnome2, but I turned on the enlightenment pager and placed it over the > panel. I then turn on the drag bar and middle-click for the running > app list. Iconification also doesn't work to the panel. It is usable > though. You can also use something like idesk for desktop icons and move the nautilus Desktop window out of the way (and make it non-sticky). This lets you use root menus again. -- BAM - If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished. --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: FREE SSL Guide from Thawte are you planning your Web Server Security? Click here to get a FREE Thawte SSL guide and find the answers to all your SSL security issues. http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?thaw0026en ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
