from:"Christopher Michael"

On 08/01/2011 03:36 PM, Lucas De Marchi wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 5:01 AM, Boris Faurebill...@gmail.com  wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 01:16, Christopher Michael
 cpmicha...@comcast.net  wrote:
 On 07/30/2011 06:36 PM, Boris Faure wrote:

 On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 01:10, Christopher Michael
 cpmicha...@comcast.netwrote:
 […]

 2) It may not build on your system (tho it builds on all boxes I have
 tried so far).

 It doesn't build on my boxes (gentoo and arch linux up-to-date).

 I find that very strange since all of the initial development that I did was
 on a gentoo box. If I had to guess, I would say you are using
 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 to pull in masked packages...In which case, you are
 pulling in a development version of XCB and yes it will not build against
 that.

 Sorry for keeping the troll fed, but xcb-1.7 is on stable gentoo x86
 as you can see on http://packages.gentoo.org/package/x11-libs/libxcb .
 I'll rewrite the patch to make ecore_xcb work with both xcb  1.7 and
 xcb= 1.7 so that it's fine for everyone.

New patch sounds good :) as long as it will build for both .. until such 
time that distros across the spectrum are all updated to development 
xcb. When that happens then we can stop supporting current stable xcb 
(0.3.6) and remove the legacy code :)

When you get your new patch(s) ready, send them out to the mailing list 
and I'll gladly have a look :)

Thanks,
dh


 Thanks Boris... this is very much appreciated.



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Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Ecore XCB

On 08/01/2011 05:02 PM, Boris Faure wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 21:59, Christopher Michael
 cpmicha...@comcast.net  wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 5:01 AM, Boris Faurebill...@gmail.comwrote:
 I'll rewrite the patch to make ecore_xcb work with both xcb1.7 and
 xcb= 1.7 so that it's fine for everyone.

 New patch sounds good :) as long as it will build for both .. until such
 time that distros across the spectrum are all updated to development
 xcb. When that happens then we can stop supporting current stable xcb
 (0.3.6) and remove the legacy code :)

 When you get your new patch(s) ready, send them out to the mailing list
 and I'll gladly have a look :)

 Patch is attached. Tell me if it works fine for you and I'll gladly commit it.
 I've done a few things other than just use the new API:
 - removed an unused var in ecore_x_icccm_size_pos_hints_get() and
 added __UNUSED__ on win,
 - changed LONG_MAX into UINT32_MAX in ecore_x_window_prop_property_get().
 I think UINT32_MAX should be used instead of hard-coding 0x7fff or
 100L when calling xcb_get_property_unchecked().

Ok, that is not correct. 'Win' is used there:

xcb_get_wm_normal_hints_unchecked(conn, win);

I am seeing some other issues with this patch also, but it is a good 
start. I'll use this patch, fix some incorrect things and apply.

Thanks,
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Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Ecore XCB

On 08/01/2011 07:23 PM, Christopher Michael wrote:
 On 08/01/2011 05:02 PM, Boris Faure wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 21:59, Christopher Michael
 cpmicha...@comcast.net wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 5:01 AM, Boris Faurebill...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'll rewrite the patch to make ecore_xcb work with both xcb 1.7 and
 xcb= 1.7 so that it's fine for everyone.

 New patch sounds good :) as long as it will build for both .. until such
 time that distros across the spectrum are all updated to development
 xcb. When that happens then we can stop supporting current stable xcb
 (0.3.6) and remove the legacy code :)

 When you get your new patch(s) ready, send them out to the mailing list
 and I'll gladly have a look :)

 Patch is attached. Tell me if it works fine for you and I'll gladly
 commit it.
 I've done a few things other than just use the new API:
 - removed an unused var in ecore_x_icccm_size_pos_hints_get() and
 added __UNUSED__ on win,
 - changed LONG_MAX into UINT32_MAX in ecore_x_window_prop_property_get().
 I think UINT32_MAX should be used instead of hard-coding 0x7fff or
 100L when calling xcb_get_property_unchecked().

 Ok, that is not correct. 'Win' is used there:

 xcb_get_wm_normal_hints_unchecked(conn, win);

 I am seeing some other issues with this patch also, but it is a good
 start. I'll use this patch, fix some incorrect things and apply.

 Thanks,
 dh

Yea, I cannot accept this patch as it sits currently. It will not even 
apply against current ecore from svn :( so I will have to manually 
cherry pick it.

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Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Ecore XCB

In Svn, but had to modify it a bit.

Thanks

dh

On 08/01/2011 05:02 PM, Boris Faure wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 21:59, Christopher Michael
 cpmicha...@comcast.net  wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 5:01 AM, Boris Faurebill...@gmail.comwrote:
 I'll rewrite the patch to make ecore_xcb work with both xcb1.7 and
 xcb= 1.7 so that it's fine for everyone.

 New patch sounds good :) as long as it will build for both .. until such
 time that distros across the spectrum are all updated to development
 xcb. When that happens then we can stop supporting current stable xcb
 (0.3.6) and remove the legacy code :)

 When you get your new patch(s) ready, send them out to the mailing list
 and I'll gladly have a look :)

 Patch is attached. Tell me if it works fine for you and I'll gladly commit it.
 I've done a few things other than just use the new API:
 - removed an unused var in ecore_x_icccm_size_pos_hints_get() and
 added __UNUSED__ on win,
 - changed LONG_MAX into UINT32_MAX in ecore_x_window_prop_property_get().
 I think UINT32_MAX should be used instead of hard-coding 0x7fff or
 100L when calling xcb_get_property_unchecked().



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Re: [e-users] Latest SVN of E failing to compile

On 08/01/2011 10:48 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
 Ahh right. Should I be rebuilding all my E libs then after adding xcb to the
 system?

 On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Christopher Michael
 cpmicha...@comcast.netwrote:

 On 08/01/2011 10:19 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:

 Fragging out with this message -

 http://pastebin.com/DKJEU8SP

 I did a make clean before starting this time, tried twice with the same
 results.

 Input?

   Check your installed libs:

 PKG_CHECK_MODULES(E_ALERT, [
   xcb
   eina= 1.0.999
   ecore= 1.0.999
   ecore-ipc= 1.0.999
 ])

 Guessing you don't have libxcb...

 dh




Na, just need to rebuild E if that's all that was failing.

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Re: [e-users] Latest SVN of E failing to compile

On 08/01/2011 11:22 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
 Huh - just booted back into my build system and libxcb1-dev is installed
 here already. Other ideas?

 On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Christopher Michaelcpmicha...@comcast.net
 wrote:

 On 08/01/2011 10:48 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:

 Ahh right. Should I be rebuilding all my E libs then after adding xcb to
 the
 system?

 On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Christopher Michael
 cpmicha...@comcast.netwrote:

   On 08/01/2011 10:19 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:

   Fragging out with this message -

 http://pastebin.com/DKJEU8SP

 I did a make clean before starting this time, tried twice with the same
 results.

 Input?

   Check your installed libs:


 PKG_CHECK_MODULES(E_ALERT, [
   xcb
   eina= 1.0.999
   ecore= 1.0.999
   ecore-ipc= 1.0.999
 ])

 Guessing you don't have libxcb...

 dh




   Na, just need to rebuild E if that's all that was failing.

 dh




Hmmm...working here.

Could check you're versions of eina, ecore, and ecore-ipc.

(pkg-config --modversion eina), etc, etc.

If they are = 1.0.999 then you should be ok. Failing that, send the 
config.log file and I'll have a look.

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Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Ecore XCB

2011-07-31 Thread Christopher Michael

On 07/30/2011 06:36 PM, Boris Faure wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 01:10, Christopher Michael
 cpmicha...@comcast.net  wrote:
 […]
 2) It may not build on your system (tho it builds on all boxes I have
 tried so far).

 It doesn't build on my boxes (gentoo and arch linux up-to-date).
I find that very strange since all of the initial development that I did 
was on a gentoo box. If I had to guess, I would say you are using 
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 to pull in masked packages...In which case, you are 
pulling in a development version of XCB and yes it will not build 
against that.

 I've got xcb 1.7 and it introduced a split up of xcb-util.
 I've attached a patch to make ecore_xcb compatible with xcb 1.7.
 I haven't committed it since it would break your setup.
While I appreciate the work/effort that went into your patch, I cannot 
put it in svn because that would break building for normal distros that 
use 'current' versions of xcb, not 'bleeding edge' versions. Most normal 
distros are still shipping 0.3.6 version of the XCB libraries. When they 
start shipping 0.3.8 by default, then I will gladly put this in svn, but 
until then, it Cannot go in because while it may fix building for your 
'bleeding edge' setup, it breaks building for everyone else :(

dh


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Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Ecore XCB

2011-07-31 Thread Christopher Michael

On 07/31/2011 07:29 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote:
 On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 19:16:35 -0400
 Christopher Michaelcpmicha...@comcast.net  wrote:

 On 07/30/2011 06:36 PM, Boris Faure wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 01:10, Christopher Michael
 cpmicha...@comcast.net   wrote:
 […]
 2) It may not build on your system (tho it builds on all boxes I have
 tried so far).

 It doesn't build on my boxes (gentoo and arch linux up-to-date).
 I find that very strange since all of the initial development that I did
 was on a gentoo box. If I had to guess, I would say you are using
 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 to pull in masked packages...In which case, you are
 pulling in a development version of XCB and yes it will not build
 against that.

 I've got xcb 1.7 and it introduced a split up of xcb-util.
 I've attached a patch to make ecore_xcb compatible with xcb 1.7.
 I haven't committed it since it would break your setup.
 While I appreciate the work/effort that went into your patch, I cannot
 put it in svn because that would break building for normal distros that
 use 'current' versions of xcb, not 'bleeding edge' versions. Most normal
 distros are still shipping 0.3.6 version of the XCB libraries. When they
 start shipping 0.3.8 by default, then I will gladly put this in svn, but
 until then, it Cannot go in because while it may fix building for your
 'bleeding edge' setup, it breaks building for everyone else :(

 dh

 IMO you may want to consider doing something like I have done with eeze and
 libmount: provide 2 versions of the relevant files with autoconf detection to
 determine which one actually gets compiled. This way you can support the 
 legacy
 (0.3.6) version as well as the current (0.3.8) version, and everyone wins.

Yea, that's a thought...except that 0.3.6 is not legacy, it's the 
'current' version :) 0.3.8 is a 'development' version :)

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Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Ecore XCB

2011-07-31 Thread Christopher Michael

On 07/31/2011 07:35 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote:
 On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 19:32:46 -0400
 Christopher Michaelcpmicha...@comcast.net  wrote:

 On 07/31/2011 07:29 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote:
 On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 19:16:35 -0400
 Christopher Michaelcpmicha...@comcast.net   wrote:

 On 07/30/2011 06:36 PM, Boris Faure wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 01:10, Christopher Michael
 cpmicha...@comcast.netwrote:
 […]
 2) It may not build on your system (tho it builds on all boxes I have
 tried so far).

 It doesn't build on my boxes (gentoo and arch linux up-to-date).
 I find that very strange since all of the initial development that I did
 was on a gentoo box. If I had to guess, I would say you are using
 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 to pull in masked packages...In which case, you are
 pulling in a development version of XCB and yes it will not build
 against that.

 I've got xcb 1.7 and it introduced a split up of xcb-util.
 I've attached a patch to make ecore_xcb compatible with xcb 1.7.
 I haven't committed it since it would break your setup.
 While I appreciate the work/effort that went into your patch, I cannot
 put it in svn because that would break building for normal distros that
 use 'current' versions of xcb, not 'bleeding edge' versions. Most normal
 distros are still shipping 0.3.6 version of the XCB libraries. When they
 start shipping 0.3.8 by default, then I will gladly put this in svn, but
 until then, it Cannot go in because while it may fix building for your
 'bleeding edge' setup, it breaks building for everyone else :(

 dh

 IMO you may want to consider doing something like I have done with eeze and
 libmount: provide 2 versions of the relevant files with autoconf detection
 to determine which one actually gets compiled. This way you can support the
 legacy (0.3.6) version as well as the current (0.3.8) version, and everyone
 wins.

 Yea, that's a thought...except that 0.3.6 is not legacy, it's the
 'current' version :) 0.3.8 is a 'development' version :)

 dh

 Unless they're coming out with 0.3.6.1, 0.3.6.2, 0.3.6.3, etc, 0.3.6 is
 legacy :P

Well, call it whatever you want to. I am too damn tired to argue 
symantics. The point is, until standard distros start shipping 0.3.8 by 
default, then we have to build against 0.3.6. End of discussion.

dh


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Re: [e-users] E crashing on startup

2011-07-26 Thread Christopher Michael

On 07/26/11 15:15, Mark Dickie wrote:
 Using current svn. Ubuntu Natty.

 I've deleted all previous builds (nothing in /opt /usr/local), downloaded
 new source tree. and rebuilt. deleted .e/ and .cache/efreet.

 Compile using easy_e17 including debugging.

 from startx it crashes on the splash screen, so I ran it through Xephyr/gdb

 Xephyr :1.0
 EINA_LOG_LEVEL=3 ECORE_ERROR_ABORT=1 gdb enlightenment_start
 r -display :1.0 from inside gdb

 Stays at splash forever, gdb attached below

 Hope this means something to somebody :)

 I will gladly give /do whatever it takes to get my beloved E back

 Cheers

After a quick look here...seems to be some type of pthread 
issue...perhaps something todo w/ the system being 64bit. Sadly, I do 
not have much experience w/ pthread so I personally will not be able to 
help much, BUT:

You've got warnings all over the place here that may point someone else 
to a direction:

WRN4886:eet eet_lib.c:717 eet_init() YOU ARE USING PTHREADS, BUT I 
CANNOT INITIALIZE THREADSAFE GCRYPT OPERATIONS!

You're actual crash is happening when the Splash Shows up and E calls 
'pause' and waits for the Splash to signal it is ready so E can continue.

A 'work around' for now would be to disable Showing Splash @ startup. 
Granted, that does not fix the bug but it should allow you to use E again.

Since you cannot get into E to disable the setting, I would recommend 
the following procedure:

Take your e.cfg from the ~/.e/e/config/standard directory (assuming 
standard profile here). Decompile it with eet:

(eet -d e.cfg config e.src)

Edit the e.src file with a text editor. Look for:
value show_splash int: 1; and change that 1 to a 0.
Save the file.

Recompile your e.src into e.cfg:

(eet -e e.cfg config e.src 1)

Assuming you get this far, congrats :) You now have an e.cfg file 
without splash enabled. Make sure it is in ~/.e/e/config/standard 
(assuming standard profile), and then you can try to startup E again.

If all went well, you should be able to get back in now (until your 
bugger is sorted out anyway).

Cheers (and Good Luck),

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Re: [e-users] Ecore XCB

2011-07-12 Thread Christopher Michael



Sent from my iPod

On Jul 12, 2011, at 1:23 PM, Wido wido...@gmail.com wrote:

 I like note number 5 :P
 
 
 I have a question regarding XCB. Some time ago ( 6 months) I was able to
 compile XCB support in anything that had it. I remember I was ablo to pick
 XCB engine, and E didn't segfault, but it stoped displaying stuff like title
 bars and menus.
Yea,that could have been either xcb or elf. Those probes are gone :!

 Back tehn, I knew that XCB was more beta than E itself, but I never
 askedtitle bars were not displayed because of XCB?
May have been that or elf
 
 Furthermore, what are the pro/cons in XCB (besides current stability)? I've
 read that XCB 'is faster' than X11 libs, but is that true? at what point?
 and what could be the benefits for us, end (power?) users?
 
Faster, less memory used, etc. Will detail more later when @ keyboard

Dh

 thanks in advance
 
 2011/7/12 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com
 
 On Tuesday 12 Jul 2011 00:10:13 Christopher Michael wrote:
 Hi Lists,
 
 This is just another email to let people know that Tuesday (tomorrow in
 EST), I will start the upload of the ecore changes to get XCB working,
 so expect some (hopefully minimal) svn breakage. I was going to do it
 today, but I thought I would send out an email warning to all and give
 people a day to grab a 'good' svn :)
 
 For users, IF you are NOT 'current' with svn (for whatever reason) NOW
 would be a good time (before the breakage) ;)
 
 Thank you for letting us know!
 
 I'm all tanked up and good to run for a while now.  ;-)
 
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Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Evas XCB

2011-07-08 Thread Christopher Michael

On 07/08/11 05:01, Tom Hacohen wrote:
 On 08/07/11 03:23, Christopher Michael wrote:
 Hi List(s),

 Some of you may have noticed I just committed the changes to Evas for
 the new XCB Engine. It is currently disabled by default. You can enable
 with --enable-software-xcb, but it is not currently 'usable' without the
 proper code for ecore_x and E17 (both of which will come to svn soon),
 so don't bother trying it just yet ;) I'll email the lists again when
 things are 'usable'.

 Cool. :)

 Now we only have to wait for your ecore code...

 What changes are needed for E17 itself? I mean, doesn't it use ecore and
 thus should remain unchanged?

 --
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Well, in a perfect world Yes it should use just ecore, But the world is 
not perfect ;) The systray module needed changes because it was calling 
some xlib stuff directly, as was the e_alert code (and a couple other 
things also). All those changes are already done here locally, they just 
need a bit more testing then I can commit them.

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Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Evas XCB

2011-07-08 Thread Christopher Michael

On 07/08/11 11:11, Vincent Torri wrote:


 On Thu, 7 Jul 2011, Christopher Michael wrote:

 Hi List(s),

 Some of you may have noticed I just committed the changes to Evas for
 the new XCB Engine. It is currently disabled by default. You can enable
 with --enable-software-xcb, but it is not currently 'usable' without the
 proper code for ecore_x and E17 (both of which will come to svn soon),
 so don't bother trying it just yet ;) I'll email the lists again when
 things are 'usable'.

 the software-xcb code was working...

 Vincent

But not well enough and/or complete enough to function as a full-time 
engine. Along with these evas changes are a bunch of ecore_x changes 
(coming soon) that will finally allow the use of xcb as an engine for EFL/E

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[e-users] Evas XCB

2011-07-07 Thread Christopher Michael

Hi List(s),

Some of you may have noticed I just committed the changes to Evas for 
the new XCB Engine. It is currently disabled by default. You can enable 
with --enable-software-xcb, but it is not currently 'usable' without the 
proper code for ecore_x and E17 (both of which will come to svn soon), 
so don't bother trying it just yet ;) I'll email the lists again when 
things are 'usable'.

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Re: [e-users] segv on e17 restarts

2011-07-04 Thread Christopher Michael

I had a similar problem earlier. I solved it by adding

export LANG=C

to my ~/.bashrc. Then logout and login again and it's gone ;)

dh


On 07/04/11 21:13, P Purkayastha wrote:
 Hi,
 I am getting segv on e17 restarts. Seems to have to do something with
 the language module.

 The gdb log is attached.



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Re: [e-users] Finger Friendly Main Menu

2011-06-23 Thread Christopher Michael

On 06/23/2011 05:07 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
 I know E has been used on several smaller touch screen devices already - is
 there code hiding out there somewhere already for a more finger friendly
 main menu? The current one is very much designed for a mouse and is
 difficult to use via a touch screen only IMO.

Could check in the Settings Panel--Look-Scaling and adjust the Scaling 
Factor. That should make the menu entries (and other items) larger 
(finger size) and easier to touch.

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Re: [e-users] Compositing Issue on Intel Chipsets with Recent Updates

2011-05-24 Thread Christopher Michael

On 05/24/2011 09:52 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
 Carsten -

 You where right.
You'll soon learn...he's always right, even when he's wrong he's still 
right ;)

dh


  Just built up the 2.15 intel driver and things are rolling
 better here now, no more screen tearing. However they are not letting me do
 OpenGL engine... From one bug onto the next!

 On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Carsten Haitzlerras...@rasterman.comwrote:

 On Wed, 18 May 2011 14:06:45 -0500 Jeff Hooglandjeffhoogl...@gmail.com
 said:

 well:
 libdrm-intel1
   2.4.23+git20110119.550fe2ca-0ubuntu0sarvatt~maverick
 xserver-xorg-video-intel
 2.14.0+git20110220.9599fde6-0ubuntu0sarvatt~maverick
 libglu1-mesa 7.9~git20100924-0ubuntu2

 on one system + whatever e+efl is in svn works a charm for me. :)

 if u think it's e - bisect back to some svn revision of efl+e where it goes
 from buggy to not buggy, but i highly suspect at BEST e is TRIGGERING a
 driver
 bug rather than e/efl having a bug, but could be wrong. though... as i
 can't
 reproduce and all my testing shows it all to work like a charm... cqan you
 do
 more testing and investigation to find out just wherere/wher/how it goes
 wrong?

 How is it the drivers fault if the kernel (and all modules) stayed the
 same?
 E is what changed... Plus trying different kernels results in the same.

 On Wed May 18 2011 01:56:12 PM CDT, hannes.janet...@gmail.com
 hannes.janet...@googlemail.com  wrote:

 On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Jeff Hooglandjeffhoogl...@linux.com

 wrote:
 Anyone else having issues with compositing on Intel cards with recent
 updates? It was working 100% fine and then last week the updates
 started showing what the attached image is. All torn and cracked out
 looking...

 http://i.imgur.com/iRyrH.png

 Setting the system to use software render gives the same results.
 Using
 OpenGL option was working just fine a few revisions ago.


 Intel drivers are breaking often. Get an older version or wait for a
 new
 one :)

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Re: [e-users] Disable Mouse Jumping to newly created Windows

2011-04-28 Thread Christopher Michael

On 04/28/2011 12:39 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
 Is there a way to disable E moving the mouse into a newly created
 window/popup?

Check the Window Focus settings. Should be one for moving the mouse.

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Re: [e-users] Is there a mail client written for E17?

2011-04-18 Thread Christopher Michael

Actually, I started one a while ago, but as it turns out the EFL port of 
Webkit didn't support DOM at the time, so displaying html emails was not 
viable at the time so I put development of it on hold.

dh

On 04/18/2011 11:18 AM, Atton Jonathan wrote:
 no

 but peaople have some idea about how doing it but it ask time and nobody has
 free time :)

 2011/4/18 Karl Sinnn...@budostore.de

 Hi,

 is there a mail client written especially for E17?

 Thanks
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Re: [e-users] Is there a mail client written for E17?

2011-04-18 Thread Christopher Michael

On 04/18/2011 11:50 AM, Karl Sinn wrote:
 Am Montag, 18. April 2011, 17:29:35 schrieb Christopher Michael:
 Actually, I started one a while ago, but as it turns out the EFL port of
 Webkit didn't support DOM at the time, so displaying html emails was not
 viable at the time so I put development of it on hold.

 It would be really great to have one :)

It certainly would :) but I don't see it happening anytime soon. The 
webkit port of efl still needs lots of work :(

dh

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Re: [e-users] Is there a mail client written for E17?

2011-04-18 Thread Christopher Michael

On 04/18/2011 02:47 PM, Karl Sinn wrote:
 It would be really great to have one :)

 It certainly would :) but I don't see it happening anytime soon. The
 webkit port of efl still needs lots of work :(


 Is there a way to motivate all the E17 heros (programmers) to focus on this
 for some time? ;)

 Karl

LOL :) Only thing I could think of would be a 'bounty' for getting it 
done ... but even then, it's more about the 'desire'  'time available' :)

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Re: [e-users] Systray Issue

2011-04-08 Thread Christopher Michael

Should check here:

http://www.ubuntugeek.com/connection-manager-connman-managing-internet-connections-in-linux.html

grep 3G modems (about half way down the page)

Not exactly 'sure' that it works with every 3G modem (nor do I have one
to test with), but it may work (ymmv)

On 04/08/2011 02:53 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
WICD still has zero 3g modem support. I hate that everyone recommends that
application to replace nm-applet when I specifically list the need for 3g
modem support :-/

~Jeff Hoogland

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Mickmichaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday 08 April 2011 19:26:46 Jeff Hoogland wrote:
Connman seriously lacks the interface for dealing with 3g modems that
network manager provides - in fact nothing else I've used comes close
(work
wifi+wired+wired). Same can be said for dropbox, it does a good job.

http://wicd.sourceforge.net/

I'd just like to throw it out there that I never said the systray
protocol
was good. This is however besides the point because the systray is very
much necessary for *many* things to function. E is a great desktop, but
it
needs to play nice with normal Linux applications and having a
functioning
systray is needed for this. If Gnome, KDE, LXDE, and even Unity can
manage
to piece together a functional one there is no reason the same can't be
done with Enlightenment (the best desktop around).

I know what Carsten is saying. On my machine most KDE apps work fine in
the
systray, Opera is a bit of a hit miss. Some other apps (can't recall
which
right now) don't even show up.

I'm glad it works - when it does. ;-)
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Re: [e-users] Gesture to Call Illume Keyboard

2011-03-16 Thread Christopher Michael

On 03/16/2011 05:18 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
 Is there a way currently to configure illume keyboard to appear when
 performing a defined gesture? The small button can be hard to hit on a touch
 screen sometimes and I think this is a better solution than having the
 keyboard auto appear whenever a user clicks into a typable field.

 If this isn't a feature - think we can get it added DH? :)

Sure...Patches Welcome !! :)

dh

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Re: [e-users] Illume Top bar causes black in full screen programs

2011-01-19 Thread Christopher Michael

On 01/19/2011 05:37 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
 When using an application full screen (such as xournal or libreoffice
 presentation) there is a black bar along the top of the screen where the
 Illume bar is normally at. Any way around this or is it intended this way?

 ~Jeff Hoogland

Svn Update. This was fixed a while ago ;)

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Re: [e-users] Illume Top bar causes black in full screen programs

2011-01-19 Thread Christopher Michael

Be sure that illume-indicator (and all other illume2 modules) get 
recompiled. This was reported to me a while ago and promptly fixed:

http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/changeset/55133

dh

On 01/19/2011 05:55 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
 Really? The Enlightenment build I am using was compiled on the 15th of this
 month. I'll run update to today's SVN and see if that fixes things.

 ~Jeff

 On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Christopher Michaelcpmicha...@comcast.net
 wrote:

 On 01/19/2011 05:37 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:

 When using an application full screen (such as xournal or libreoffice
 presentation) there is a black bar along the top of the screen where the
 Illume bar is normally at. Any way around this or is it intended this way?

 ~Jeff Hoogland


 Svn Update. This was fixed a while ago ;)

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Re: [e-users] Running Applications List in Illume-Home

On 01/19/2011 12:23 AM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
 Been playing around with the Illume profiles on my tablet computer and over
 all I like Illume-Home better than the default Illume profile. One thing I
 am finding lacking (or maybe just not finding) in Illume-Home is something
 that displays a list of currently running applications to easily switch
 between. Under Illume there was a button to press to list all of them - can
 this be added to Illume-Home some how?

 Cheers,
 ~Jeff Hoogland

Sure. There are a couple of routes to go with this ... you could turn on 
the Window Switcher List module (Modules--Core--Window Switcher List). 
With that you can then do Alt-Tab to bring up/switch windows via the 
window list. OR you could easily create an illume-windowlist module that 
provides a button on the Illume Indicator bar, and clicking that button 
could dropdown a popup with a list of running windows...

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Re: [e-users] Running Applications List in Illume-Home

On 01/19/2011 12:31 AM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
 If creating a module with a button that does that is easy would you mind
 whipping it up for me DH? :)

 ~Jeff Hoogland

Certainly Could ... wouldn't be that hard and would take very little 
time...but, what's in it for me ? ;) :P

dh

 On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:28 PM, Christopher Michael
 cpmicha...@comcast.net  wrote:

 On 01/19/2011 12:23 AM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:

 Been playing around with the Illume profiles on my tablet computer and
 over
 all I like Illume-Home better than the default Illume profile. One thing I
 am finding lacking (or maybe just not finding) in Illume-Home is something
 that displays a list of currently running applications to easily switch
 between. Under Illume there was a button to press to list all of them -
 can
 this be added to Illume-Home some how?

 Cheers,
 ~Jeff Hoogland


 Sure. There are a couple of routes to go with this ... you could turn on
 the Window Switcher List module (Modules--Core--Window Switcher List).
 With that you can then do Alt-Tab to bring up/switch windows via the window
 list. OR you could easily create an illume-windowlist module that provides a
 button on the Illume Indicator bar, and clicking that button could dropdown
 a popup with a list of running windows...

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Re: [e-users] Running Applications List in Illume-Home

On 01/19/2011 12:57 AM, P Purkayastha wrote:
 On 01/19/2011 01:55 PM, Christopher Michael wrote:
 On 01/19/2011 12:54 AM, P Purkayastha wrote:
 On 01/19/2011 01:32 PM, Christopher Michael wrote:
 On 01/19/2011 12:31 AM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
 If creating a module with a button that does that is easy would you
 mind
 whipping it up for me DH? :)

 ~Jeff Hoogland

 Certainly Could ... wouldn't be that hard and would take very little
 time...but, what's in it for me ? ;) :P

 A virtual beer and a virtual cookie? ;)

 But, isn't there already a winselector module in E-MODULES-EXTRA, which
 does exactly that - pops up a list of open windows.


 Well, there is currently the Window Switcher List module which is in
 core E (winlist module) ... but it doesn't integrate the way he wants
 wrt the illume indicator.

 I am talking about this module, which can be added to a shelf:

 http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/E-MODULES-EXTRA/winselector

O. No clue about that one, never used it, don't know what it looks 
like, how it behaves, etc, etc :)

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Re: [e-users] How to disable shadow for wbar? (dock application)

On 01/19/2011 12:49 AM, Daniel - wrote:
 2011/1/19 Christopher Michaelcpmicha...@comcast.net:
 On 01/18/2011 11:54 PM, Daniel - wrote:

 http://imgur.com/kIqT0
 The shadow is made by plain e with the dropshadow module.
 BTW, i'm suspecting that i will need to turn off shadows or write some
 dirty hack to get the rid of it (if i figure how of course).


 Are you referring to this shadow ? : http://imgur.com/LtoiK

 If so, I know what it is :P Had these same issues when gOS decided to use
 wbar years ago...

 dh


 Yes i'm refering to that exactly.
 Any luck with it, then?


(IIRC - keep in mind it's been several years since then)

The only way we could get rid of it at the time was to disable all 
Compositing. This means no xcompmgr, etc, etc. Not sure if E's Composite 
module would cause this issue or not as E's composite module was not 
around back then.

dh


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Re: [e-users] Running Applications List in Illume-Home

On 01/19/2011 01:11 AM, P Purkayastha wrote:
 On 01/19/2011 01:59 PM, Christopher Michael wrote:
 On 01/19/2011 12:57 AM, P Purkayastha wrote:
 On 01/19/2011 01:55 PM, Christopher Michael wrote:
 On 01/19/2011 12:54 AM, P Purkayastha wrote:
 On 01/19/2011 01:32 PM, Christopher Michael wrote:
 On 01/19/2011 12:31 AM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
 If creating a module with a button that does that is easy would you
 mind
 whipping it up for me DH? :)

 ~Jeff Hoogland

 Certainly Could ... wouldn't be that hard and would take very little
 time...but, what's in it for me ? ;) :P

 A virtual beer and a virtual cookie? ;)

 But, isn't there already a winselector module in E-MODULES-EXTRA,
 which
 does exactly that - pops up a list of open windows.


 Well, there is currently the Window Switcher List module which is in
 core E (winlist module) ... but it doesn't integrate the way he wants
 wrt the illume indicator.

 I am talking about this module, which can be added to a shelf:

 http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/E-MODULES-EXTRA/winselector


 O. No clue about that one, never used it, don't know what it looks
 like, how it behaves, etc, etc :)

 If you add it to a shelf, you will get a button. You click on that
 button and you get a list of open windows. Just that simple. And that's
 exactly what Jeff wants, imho. :)


Yea, sounds like it :) I wonder if that 'list of open windows' is done 
with an e_popup ? or an e_menu ? or something else...

dh


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Re: [e-users] Running Applications List in Illume-Home

On 01/19/2011 01:12 AM, Christopher Michael wrote:
 On 01/19/2011 01:11 AM, P Purkayastha wrote:
 On 01/19/2011 01:59 PM, Christopher Michael wrote:
 On 01/19/2011 12:57 AM, P Purkayastha wrote:
 On 01/19/2011 01:55 PM, Christopher Michael wrote:
 On 01/19/2011 12:54 AM, P Purkayastha wrote:
 On 01/19/2011 01:32 PM, Christopher Michael wrote:
 On 01/19/2011 12:31 AM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
 If creating a module with a button that does that is easy would you
 mind
 whipping it up for me DH? :)

 ~Jeff Hoogland

 Certainly Could ... wouldn't be that hard and would take very little
 time...but, what's in it for me ? ;) :P

 A virtual beer and a virtual cookie? ;)

 But, isn't there already a winselector module in E-MODULES-EXTRA,
 which
 does exactly that - pops up a list of open windows.


 Well, there is currently the Window Switcher List module which is in
 core E (winlist module) ... but it doesn't integrate the way he wants
 wrt the illume indicator.

 I am talking about this module, which can be added to a shelf:

 http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/E-MODULES-EXTRA/winselector


 O. No clue about that one, never used it, don't know what it looks
 like, how it behaves, etc, etc :)

 If you add it to a shelf, you will get a button. You click on that
 button and you get a list of open windows. Just that simple. And that's
 exactly what Jeff wants, imho. :)


 Yea, sounds like it :) I wonder if that 'list of open windows' is done
 with an e_popup ? or an e_menu ? or something else...

 dh

Ahh, looking @ the source, it appears to use an e_menu.

dh


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Re: [e-users] How to disable shadow for wbar? (dock application)

On 01/19/2011 01:23 AM, Daniel - wrote:
 2011/1/19 Christopher Michaelcpmicha...@comcast.net:
 On 01/19/2011 12:49 AM, Daniel - wrote:


 Are you referring to this shadow ? : http://imgur.com/LtoiK

 If so, I know what it is :P Had these same issues when gOS decided to use
 wbar years ago...

 dh


 Yes i'm refering to that exactly.
 Any luck with it, then?


 (IIRC - keep in mind it's been several years since then)

 The only way we could get rid of it at the time was to disable all
 Compositing. This means no xcompmgr, etc, etc. Not sure if E's Composite
 module would cause this issue or not as E's composite module was not around
 back then.

 dh


 AFAIK I don't have any compositing software installed except for the
 e17 module and that's disabled.

May be worth a few seconds to run a 'ps aux' and see if there is 
xcompmgr or something running.

 Maybe I can get it (gOS) and see how it solves the issue?


I doubt you would have any luck finding such an old version of gOS (by 
all means you can try; I'm just saying it's pretty old).

dh

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Re: [e-users] How to disable shadow for wbar? (dock application)

On 01/19/2011 01:52 AM, Daniel - wrote:
 2011/1/19 Christopher Michaelcpmicha...@comcast.net:
 On 01/19/2011 01:23 AM, Daniel - wrote:

 2011/1/19 Christopher Michaelcpmicha...@comcast.net:

 On 01/19/2011 12:49 AM, Daniel - wrote:


 Are you referring to this shadow ? : http://imgur.com/LtoiK

 If so, I know what it is :P Had these same issues when gOS decided to
 use
 wbar years ago...

 dh


 Yes i'm refering to that exactly.
 Any luck with it, then?


 (IIRC - keep in mind it's been several years since then)

 The only way we could get rid of it at the time was to disable all
 Compositing. This means no xcompmgr, etc, etc. Not sure if E's Composite
 module would cause this issue or not as E's composite module was not
 around
 back then.

 dh


 AFAIK I don't have any compositing software installed except for the
 e17 module and that's disabled.

 May be worth a few seconds to run a 'ps aux' and see if there is xcompmgr or
 something running.

 Maybe I can get it (gOS) and see how it solves the issue?


 I doubt you would have any luck finding such an old version of gOS (by all
 means you can try; I'm just saying it's pretty old).

 dh

 No luck with ps.
 The current version of gOS does not feature E with wbar?

Oh Heck no :) That distro's been dead for a few years now.

dh


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Re: [e-users] Building Enna Media Center Issue

2011-01-11 Thread Christopher Michael

On 01/11/2011 09:18 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
 Trying to build enna media center (based on elf) from source and it is
 giving me this error message with latest SVN build of everything E (as of
 last night)

 http://pastebin.com/nJpuF9tk

 Ideas? Looks like an elementary issue to me but I am not 100% on that.

 ~Jeff Hoogland

Just rebuilt efl from svn, and elementary builds just fine. Looks like 
the enna code has not been updated for recent elm changesso this 
isn't an EFL Svn issue, it's an Enna issue. I'd send an email to them if 
I were you ;)

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Re: [e-users] Problem getting X Window ID.

2011-01-06 Thread Christopher Michael

On 01/06/2011 05:32 PM, Nicolas wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm using Ecore_X and I'm trying to get the X window ID of the Ecore_Window.

 I do:

 int pm;
 ecore_x_window_prop_xid_get(mywindow, NULL, NULL,pm, 1);

 pm is not null but it doesn't seem to work.
 Is this the correct way ?

 Ecore_X api is:
 ecore_x_window_prop_xid_get(Ecore_X_Window win, Ecore_X_Atom atom,
 Ecore_X_Atom type, Ecore_X_ID *lst, unsigned int len);

 I don't know what to write in Ecore_X_Atom atom and Ecore_X_Atom type...

 Thanks in advance for reply.
 Nicolas.


ecore_x_window_new already returns the X Window Id:

Ecore_X_Window win;
win = ecore_x_window_new(NULL, 0, 0, 100, 100);

Here, win is the X Window Id. ecore_x_window_new uses XCreateWindow, 
which returns the id, so no reason to do a window_prop_xid_get really.

The XCreateWindow function creates an unmapped subwindow for a 
specified parent window, returns the window ID of the created window

You should avoid fetching window props  atoms as much as possible 
because most (if not all) are round-trip requests.

Someone feel free to correct me if I am wrong here.

Cheers,
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Re: [e-users] Change theme from command line

On 01/01/2011 08:09 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
 Is there a command I can run from the CLI to change E theme?

 Cheers,
 ~Jeff

Back in the good old days, yes there was. It was called 
'enlightenment_remote' . That same tool exists today, but is in a much 
more limited (and limiting) form and only uses dbus calls these days :( 
A quick '--help' of the current 'enlightenment_remote' tool shows that 
it's not possible to change the theme (or much of anything else) anymore :(

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Re: [e-users] Change theme from command line

On 01/01/2011 09:38 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
 Yes I know about this command - but as you said it does not do very much any
 more. Is there really no way to do this they? I am working on a script to
 change both GTK and Enlightenment theme at the same time so they can match.

 ~Jeff

 On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Christopher Michael
 cpmicha...@comcast.netwrote:

 On 01/01/2011 08:09 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:

 Is there a command I can run from the CLI to change E theme?

 Cheers,
 ~Jeff


 Back in the good old days, yes there was. It was called
 'enlightenment_remote' . That same tool exists today, but is in a much more
 limited (and limiting) form and only uses dbus calls these days :( A quick
 '--help' of the current 'enlightenment_remote' tool shows that it's not
 possible to change the theme (or much of anything else) anymore :(

 dh



Correct. There is no other 'nice' way to do it :(

I can offer a 'not so nice'  'hackish' way for you todo it if really 
really really needed ;) BUT it's fairly ghetto

dh


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Re: [e-users] Change theme from command line

HAHAHA, Ok but keep in mind this is in no way official, and will 
require a bit of work in your script (not to mention is incredibly 
hackish) ;)

Basically, what you are going to do is decompile the existing e.cfg file 
(usually in ~/.e/e/config/standard/e.cfg) using eet:

'eet -d /path/to/e.cfg config /path/to/temporary/e.src'

This will output the current E config settings into a text file called 
e.src. Now you can run a 'sed' or something on e.src and replace the 
theme filename. What you are looking for in the e.src file is something 
like this:

 group themes list {
 group E_Config_Theme struct {
 value category string: theme;
 value file string: 
/usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/default.edj;
 }
 }

Just sed the file line with the new theme, and save the file.

Now you need to recompile it into binary:

'eet -e /path/to/e.cfg config /path/to/e.src 1'

Restart E (assuming the new e.cfg is still in the standard place) and 
done. Should work ... in theory ;)

dh

On 01/01/2011 10:04 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
 I'll take ghetto and hackish. Never was one to argue with results ;)

 ~Jeff

 On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Christopher Michael
 cpmicha...@comcast.netwrote:

 On 01/01/2011 09:38 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:

 Yes I know about this command - but as you said it does not do very much
 any
 more. Is there really no way to do this they? I am working on a script to
 change both GTK and Enlightenment theme at the same time so they can
 match.

 ~Jeff

 On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Christopher Michael
 cpmicha...@comcast.netwrote:

   On 01/01/2011 08:09 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:

   Is there a command I can run from the CLI to change E theme?

 Cheers,
 ~Jeff


 Back in the good old days, yes there was. It was called
 'enlightenment_remote' . That same tool exists today, but is in a much
 more
 limited (and limiting) form and only uses dbus calls these days :( A
 quick
 '--help' of the current 'enlightenment_remote' tool shows that it's not
 possible to change the theme (or much of anything else) anymore :(

 dh



 Correct. There is no other 'nice' way to do it :(

 I can offer a 'not so nice'  'hackish' way for you todo it if really
 really really needed ;) BUT it's fairly ghetto

 dh





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Re: [e-users] Change theme from command line

A 2nd option would be to make a dbus method for changing the theme via 
the new 'enlightenment_remote' tool and send it to the dev mailing list 
for svn commit.

dh

On 01/01/2011 10:12 PM, Christopher Michael wrote:
 HAHAHA, Ok but keep in mind this is in no way official, and will
 require a bit of work in your script (not to mention is incredibly
 hackish) ;)

 Basically, what you are going to do is decompile the existing e.cfg file
 (usually in ~/.e/e/config/standard/e.cfg) using eet:

 'eet -d /path/to/e.cfg config /path/to/temporary/e.src'

 This will output the current E config settings into a text file called
 e.src. Now you can run a 'sed' or something on e.src and replace the
 theme filename. What you are looking for in the e.src file is something
 like this:

   group themes list {
   group E_Config_Theme struct {
   value category string: theme;
   value file string:
 /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/default.edj;
   }
   }

 Just sed the file line with the new theme, and save the file.

 Now you need to recompile it into binary:

 'eet -e /path/to/e.cfg config /path/to/e.src 1'

 Restart E (assuming the new e.cfg is still in the standard place) and
 done. Should work ... in theory ;)

 dh

 On 01/01/2011 10:04 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
 I'll take ghetto and hackish. Never was one to argue with results ;)

 ~Jeff

 On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Christopher Michael
 cpmicha...@comcast.netwrote:

 On 01/01/2011 09:38 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:

 Yes I know about this command - but as you said it does not do very much
 any
 more. Is there really no way to do this they? I am working on a script to
 change both GTK and Enlightenment theme at the same time so they can
 match.

 ~Jeff

 On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Christopher Michael
 cpmicha...@comcast.netwrote:

On 01/01/2011 08:09 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:

Is there a command I can run from the CLI to change E theme?

 Cheers,
 ~Jeff


 Back in the good old days, yes there was. It was called
 'enlightenment_remote' . That same tool exists today, but is in a much
 more
 limited (and limiting) form and only uses dbus calls these days :( A
 quick
 '--help' of the current 'enlightenment_remote' tool shows that it's not
 possible to change the theme (or much of anything else) anymore :(

 dh



 Correct. There is no other 'nice' way to do it :(

 I can offer a 'not so nice'   'hackish' way for you todo it if really
 really really needed ;) BUT it's fairly ghetto

 dh




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Re: [e-users] Change theme from command line

Yup, you are missing 'config' in the middle:

eet -d e.cfg config e.src

dh

On 01/01/2011 10:25 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
 Hrm. eet -d is throwing me the syntax like I am doing something wrong. Any
 ideas what I am missing here?

 j...@sager-bodhi:~$ eet -d /home/jeff.e/e/config/Bodhi/e.cfg e.src
 Usage:
eet -l FILE.EET list all keys in FILE.EET
eet -x FILE.EET KEY OUT-FILE [CRYPTO_KEY]  extract data stored in
 KEY in FILE.EET and write to OUT-FILE
eet -d FILE.EET KEY OUT-FILE [CRYPTO_KEY]  extract and decode data
 stored in KEY in FILE.EET and write to OUT-FILE
eet -i FILE.EET KEY IN-FILE COMPRESS [CRYPTO_KEY]  insert data to KEY in
 FILE.EET from IN-FILE and if COMPRESS is 1, compress it
eet -e FILE.EET KEY IN-FILE COMPRESS [CRYPTO_KEY]  insert and encode to
 KEY in FILE.EET from IN-FILE and if COMPRESS is 1, compress it
eet -r FILE.EET KEYremove KEY in FILE.EET
eet -c FILE.EETreport and check the
 signature information of an eet file
eet -s FILE.EET PRIVATE_KEY PUBLIC_KEY sign FILE.EET with
 PRIVATE_KEY and attach PUBLIC_KEY as it's certificate
 j...@sager-bodhi:~$ ls .e/e/config/Bodhi
 e.cfg

 ~Jeff

 On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Christopher Michael
 cpmicha...@comcast.netwrote:

 A 2nd option would be to make a dbus method for changing the theme via the
 new 'enlightenment_remote' tool and send it to the dev mailing list for svn
 commit.

 dh


 On 01/01/2011 10:12 PM, Christopher Michael wrote:

 HAHAHA, Ok but keep in mind this is in no way official, and will
 require a bit of work in your script (not to mention is incredibly
 hackish) ;)

 Basically, what you are going to do is decompile the existing e.cfg file
 (usually in ~/.e/e/config/standard/e.cfg) using eet:

 'eet -d /path/to/e.cfg config /path/to/temporary/e.src'

 This will output the current E config settings into a text file called
 e.src. Now you can run a 'sed' or something on e.src and replace the
 theme filename. What you are looking for in the e.src file is something
 like this:

   group themes list {
   group E_Config_Theme struct {
   value category string: theme;
   value file string:
 /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/default.edj;
   }
   }

 Just sed the file line with the new theme, and save the file.

 Now you need to recompile it into binary:

 'eet -e /path/to/e.cfg config /path/to/e.src 1'

 Restart E (assuming the new e.cfg is still in the standard place) and
 done. Should work ... in theory ;)

 dh

 On 01/01/2011 10:04 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:

 I'll take ghetto and hackish. Never was one to argue with results ;)

 ~Jeff

 On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Christopher Michael
 cpmicha...@comcast.netwrote:

   On 01/01/2011 09:38 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:

   Yes I know about this command - but as you said it does not do very
 much
 any
 more. Is there really no way to do this they? I am working on a script
 to
 change both GTK and Enlightenment theme at the same time so they can
 match.

 ~Jeff

 On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Christopher Michael
 cpmicha...@comcast.netwrote:

On 01/01/2011 08:09 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:


Is there a command I can run from the CLI to change E theme?


 Cheers,
 ~Jeff


   Back in the good old days, yes there was. It was called
 'enlightenment_remote' . That same tool exists today, but is in a much
 more
 limited (and limiting) form and only uses dbus calls these days :( A
 quick
 '--help' of the current 'enlightenment_remote' tool shows that it's
 not
 possible to change the theme (or much of anything else) anymore :(

 dh



   Correct. There is no other 'nice' way to do it :(

 I can offer a 'not so nice''hackish' way for you todo it if really
 really really needed ;) BUT it's fairly ghetto

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Re: [e-users] tclock module and 12 hour clock instead of 24 hour

2010-12-27 Thread Christopher Michael

On 12/27/2010 03:28 PM, C Anthony Risinger wrote:
 On Dec 27, 2010, at 1:51 PM, Jeff Hooglandjeffhoogl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Is it possible to make the tclock module display the time using the
 12 hour
 format instead of the 24 hour format it uses by default?

 I'm on the road, but yes I have done this; I believe it's in the
 system settings... somewhere :-)

 C Anthony [mobile]


Yes. Configure the tclock settings. You can use any setting that 
strftime supports. I personally use: %I:%M %P

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Re: [e-users] Cannot Re-Order ibar applications

2010-12-26 Thread Christopher Michael

On 12/26/2010 03:31 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
 Using a recent E build (less than a week old) and reordering my the contents
 of my ibar no longer has any affect after hitting the apply button. Any idea
 why this is? I'll try updating my build later this afternoon and see if that
 resolves it - but in the mean time any suggestions?

 Regards,
 ~Jeff Hoogland
 --

Yea, update your build. This was fixed a few days ago.

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Re: [e-users] Theme Foobaring Virtual Desktop Settings

2010-12-25 Thread Christopher Michael

On 12/25/2010 02:33 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
 Anyone know what in my theme would be causing my virtual desktop settings to
 look like this - http://imgur.com/grqjO.png - instead of showing the normal
 virtual desktop options - http://imgur.com/7Vqkp.png


 Regards,
 ~Jeff Hoogland

Looks like you may be missing the theme for e_widget_deskpreview. Group 
e/widgets/deskpreview/desk ... if it's not missing, then perhaps the 
widget is themed too large or something and just won't fit.

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Re: [e-users] Theme Foobaring Virtual Desktop Settings

2010-12-25 Thread Christopher Michael

On 12/25/2010 02:33 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
 Anyone know what in my theme would be causing my virtual desktop settings to
 look like this - http://imgur.com/grqjO.png - instead of showing the normal
 virtual desktop options - http://imgur.com/7Vqkp.png


 Regards,
 ~Jeff Hoogland

Looks like you may be missing the theme for e_widget_deskpreview. Group 
e/widgets/deskpreview/desk ... if it's not missing, then perhaps the 
widget is themed too large or something and just won't fit.

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Re: [e-users] Themeing Taskbar Module

Probably missing some key parts in the edc. Did you just edit the 
existing one ? or did you make your own ??

dh

On 12/21/2010 03:29 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
 So I have decompiled the taskbar module, I edited the colors of the three
 images within the decomp and then ran the build.sh to create a new .edj
 file. However when I load this new taskbar module I have created and add it
 to a shelf/desktop it does not show any of my opened applications! Any
 ideas?

 ~Jeff

 On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Christopher Michael
 cpmicha...@comcast.net  wrote:

 edje_decc /some/path/my.edj will decompile the theme.

 now you edit the 'edc' files, then recompile it w/ edje_ccmy.edj

 (--help works w/ most term apps ;)

 dh



 On 12/19/2010 11:34 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:

 Found the .edj file (/usr/lib/enlightenment) how do I decompile/recompile
 it
 now?

 ~Jeff

 On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:33 PM, Christopher Michael
 cpmicha...@comcast.net   wrote:

   On 12/19/2010 11:28 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:

   Where is that located? In /usr/share/enlightenment somewhere?

   That would be the first to check (Depending on your module install

 prefix). You are looking for the taskbar Theme edc/edj.

 ~/.e/e/modules/taskbar/something.edj ?? ;)

 dh


   ~Jeff


 On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Christopher Michael
 cpmicha...@comcast.netwrote:

   Look into the taskbar edc/edj


 dh

 On 12/19/2010 03:42 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:

   Howdy all,

 I was wondering how one would go about themeing the taskbar module.
 I'd

   like

   to change the colors from active/inactive applications to something
 other
 than white+black

 ~Jeff


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Re: [e-users] Themeing Taskbar Module

As long as you kept the same image filenames, no. All the would require 
is a recompile of the edc (edje_cc). If you changed the filenames, then 
yes you would have to edit the edc and replace all instances of those 
filenames.

dh

On 12/21/2010 03:35 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
 I didn't even touch the existing one as I left everything the same other
 than changing some of the colors of the .png files. Would that require edits
 to the .edc file?

 ~Jeff Hoogland

 On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Christopher Michaelcpmicha...@comcast.net
 wrote:

 Probably missing some key parts in the edc. Did you just edit the existing
 one ? or did you make your own ??

 dh


 On 12/21/2010 03:29 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:

 So I have decompiled the taskbar module, I edited the colors of the three
 images within the decomp and then ran the build.sh to create a new .edj
 file. However when I load this new taskbar module I have created and add
 it
 to a shelf/desktop it does not show any of my opened applications! Any
 ideas?

 ~Jeff

 On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Christopher Michael
 cpmicha...@comcast.net   wrote:

   edje_decc /some/path/my.edj will decompile the theme.

 now you edit the 'edc' files, then recompile it w/ edje_ccmy.edj

 (--help works w/ most term apps ;)

 dh



 On 12/19/2010 11:34 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:

   Found the .edj file (/usr/lib/enlightenment) how do I
 decompile/recompile
 it
 now?

 ~Jeff

 On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:33 PM, Christopher Michael
 cpmicha...@comcast.netwrote:

   On 12/19/2010 11:28 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:


   Where is that located? In /usr/share/enlightenment somewhere?


   That would be the first to check (Depending on your module install

   prefix). You are looking for the taskbar Theme edc/edj.

 ~/.e/e/modules/taskbar/something.edj ?? ;)

 dh


   ~Jeff


 On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Christopher Michael
 cpmicha...@comcast.net wrote:

   Look into the taskbar edc/edj


 dh

 On 12/19/2010 03:42 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:

   Howdy all,


 I was wondering how one would go about themeing the taskbar module.
 I'd

   like


   to change the colors from active/inactive applications to something

 other
 than white+black

 ~Jeff



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Re: [e-users] Themeing Taskbar Module

Well, I would guess that build.sh already does edje_cc (most of the 
build.sh scripts do).

dh

On 12/21/2010 03:42 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
 So I just need to

 edje_cc taskbar.edc

 and then run my build.sh file?

 ~Jeff

 On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Christopher Michaelcpmicha...@comcast.net
 wrote:

 As long as you kept the same image filenames, no. All the would require is
 a recompile of the edc (edje_cc). If you changed the filenames, then yes you
 would have to edit the edc and replace all instances of those filenames.

 dh


 On 12/21/2010 03:35 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:

 I didn't even touch the existing one as I left everything the same other
 than changing some of the colors of the .png files. Would that require
 edits
 to the .edc file?

 ~Jeff Hoogland

 On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Christopher Michael
 cpmicha...@comcast.net

 wrote:


   Probably missing some key parts in the edc. Did you just edit the
 existing
 one ? or did you make your own ??

 dh


 On 12/21/2010 03:29 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:

   So I have decompiled the taskbar module, I edited the colors of the
 three
 images within the decomp and then ran the build.sh to create a new .edj
 file. However when I load this new taskbar module I have created and add
 it
 to a shelf/desktop it does not show any of my opened applications! Any
 ideas?

 ~Jeff

 On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Christopher Michael
 cpmicha...@comcast.netwrote:

   edje_decc /some/path/my.edj will decompile the theme.


 now you edit the 'edc' files, then recompile it w/ edje_ccmy.edj

 (--help works w/ most term apps ;)

 dh



 On 12/19/2010 11:34 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:

   Found the .edj file (/usr/lib/enlightenment) how do I

 decompile/recompile
 it
 now?

 ~Jeff

 On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:33 PM, Christopher Michael
 cpmicha...@comcast.net wrote:

   On 12/19/2010 11:28 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:


   Where is that located? In /usr/share/enlightenment somewhere?


   That would be the first to check (Depending on your module install

   prefix). You are looking for the taskbar Theme edc/edj.


 ~/.e/e/modules/taskbar/something.edj ?? ;)

 dh


   ~Jeff


   On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Christopher Michael
 cpmicha...@comcast.net  wrote:

   Look into the taskbar edc/edj


   dh

 On 12/19/2010 03:42 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:

   Howdy all,


 I was wondering how one would go about themeing the taskbar
 module.
 I'd

   like


   to change the colors from active/inactive applications to
 something

   other
 than white+black

 ~Jeff




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 If C gives you enough rope to hang yourself, then C++ gives you
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 rope to bind and gag your neighborhood, rig the sails on a small
 ship,
 and
 still have enough rope to hang yourself from the yardarm
 - Anonymous quote from the The UNIX-HATERS Handbook




   --
 If C gives you enough rope to hang yourself, then C++ gives you enough
 rope to bind and gag your neighborhood, rig the sails on a small ship,
 and
 still have enough rope to hang yourself from the yardarm
 - Anonymous quote from the The UNIX-HATERS Handbook




 --
 If C gives you enough rope to hang yourself, then C++ gives you enough
 rope to bind and gag your neighborhood, rig the sails on a small ship,
 and
 still have enough rope to hang yourself from the yardarm
 - Anonymous quote from the The UNIX-HATERS Handbook




 --
 If C gives you enough rope to hang yourself, then C++ gives you enough
 rope to bind and gag your neighborhood, rig the sails on a small ship, and
 still have enough rope to hang yourself from the yardarm
 - Anonymous quote from the The UNIX-HATERS Handbook




-- 
If C gives you enough rope to hang yourself, then C++ gives you enough 
rope to bind

Re: [e-users] Themeing Taskbar Module