Re: [Evolution-hackers] why i can't build evolution with krb5 libs?
Le mar 31/12/2002 à 10:25, Calvin Liu a écrit :
i gave the configure option --with-krb5=my lib dir but the configure
result still reported Kerberos 4/5: no/no.
is there any option as --enable-... relate to this?
You should use --with-krb5=%{_prefix} --with-krb4=%{_prefix} where
%{_prefix} is /usr if kerberos is installed in /usr
You can also try with the attached patch (it is in Mandrake package of
Evolution since 0.13...)
--
Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MandrakeSoft
--- evolution-0.99.2/configure.in.krb4 Tue Nov 20 11:15:00 2001
+++ evolution-0.99.2/configure.in Tue Nov 20 11:15:13 2001
@@ -761,7 +761,7 @@
if test $ac_cv_lib_kerberos4 != no; then
AC_DEFINE(HAVE_KRB4)
msg_krb4=yes
- if test -f $with_krb4/include/krb.h -o -f $with_krb4/include/port-sockets.h; then
+ if test -f $with_krb4/include/krb.h -a -f $with_krb4/include/port-sockets.h; then
KRB4_CFLAGS=-I$with_krb4/include
else
KRB4_CFLAGS=-I$with_krb4/include/kerberosIV
Re: [Evolution-hackers] request for review of patch for 35557
Hi, thanks for pointing that out. I have a slightly simpler fix to apply. html_engine_get_table should not return e-cursor-object and there should not be two Table menu entries in popup menu. Cheers Radek On t, 2003-01-02 at 03:18, Yuedong Du wrote: Just resend this mail, it seems that hackers back now. Please do not omit this mail just because size of the patch or the mail. Please be patient, compare to the problems it resolves, I think it worths. Then I will first describe problems in current table. Then the solution provided in the patch. Bugzilla link of this bug: http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=35557 1. Current Problems == There are some serious problems found in table of composer: I. When select the outmost bound of table resize the table will cause hang the cpu. II. Select the table like I, edit the table, add column undo will crash. III.In the case table contain a subtable, select the subtable, and right click the sub-table. Select 'Table' in the popup. There are actually two 'Table'. One represent table, another sub-table. But if when you click it, you found both the properties in the dialog are for one of the 'Table'. It is, if you have table of subtable of different size, the properties of them are of the same. Actually I think there are very likely more problems I do not know. All these problems caused by similiar root reasons: a. First is the widely used function html_engine_get_table(). It return a table. either object point to by the current cursor or grandfather of the object. Then the table is used. Consider case III mentioned above, if we use this function, we cannot tell which table is the one we want. By grep and wc you find there are more than 60 of usages of it. b. In functions that edit the table, e.g., delete_table_column(). It just assume user's focus is on table's cell and want to edit the table contain it. In case I and II above, this is not true. 2. Solutions in the patch === Actually there are too many use of these functions. So I can't fix all of them at once, just focus on table edit use the popup menu. And also try to not affect other part. Thus to resolve this problems, the patch attached do follow jobs: a. First we must know whether user specified is which table. Thus add a flag into the structure GtkHTMLEditTableProperties. And in popup.c, when generate the pop up menu, add a case so that we can set the new added flag into GtkHTMLEditTableProperties. b. a new function html_engine_get_table_2(), compare to html_engine_get_table(), one more parameter is added to specify whether you want table point by cursor or grandfather of it. The choose that not to rewrite html_engine_get_table() is because the wide use of it. c. Use the html_engine_get_table_2() in table editing functions,e.g., delete_table_column(). Also add a flag to this function, thus to specify which table to use. Add html_engine_delete_table_column_2() which call delte_table_column() and specify using the object point by cursor as table. Because html_engine_delete_table_column() will assume the grandfather. Choose not modify html_engine_get_table() directly is because it is used in gtkhtml.c. Any comments are wellcome! I will resend the mail after Jan.2, when hackers back,:-). And I also hope copyright problem will be resolved at that time. Best Regards York Du __ Index: components/html-editor/popup.c === RCS file: /cvs/gnome/gtkhtml/components/html-editor/popup.c,v retrieving revision 1.62 diff -u -4 -r1.62 popup.c --- components/html-editor/popup.c2 Oct 2002 17:11:34 - 1.62 +++ components/html-editor/popup.c24 Dec 2002 07:26:46 - @@ -230,8 +230,15 @@ rule_properties, rule_apply_cb, rule_close_cb); break; + case GTK_HTML_EDIT_PROPERTY_TABLE_SELF: + gtk_html_edit_properties_dialog_add_entry (cd-properties_dialog, +t, _(Table), +table_properties_2, +table_apply_cb, +table_close_cb); + break; case GTK_HTML_EDIT_PROPERTY_TABLE:
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Feature request:about complete thefunction which is synchronizing of a specific folder
On Sun, 2002-12-22 at 05:15, Antonio Xu wrote: Now, evolution has implemented the function which is synchronize some specific folders for using as offline. But the function was not very flexible for uesr. If user want to sync a folder, he must set the offline folder at the first,then go to offline. at the next time, if user forget unset the offline folder,evolution will sync folder again when user switch evolution to offline. I think there should have a menu item for user, user can use it specify a folder and sync it before switch the evolution to offline. Now evolution only can sync the new email in folder. I think evolution should allow user sync all email in folder. While I agree it should be possible to configure the synching parameters (e.g. sync all, sync unread etc.), I don't see a reason for a special command to sync just one folder. It might be nice to have a Sync now command without having to go online, but I see no need for a custom command to do a partial sync. NotZed give me a good idea, that is we make sync function like search function. I think we can add a menu item and create a setting dialog. The settings should go into the general settings dialog that we already have. Then user can use this dialog to point out what kind of email he want to sync, and whether evolution should sync those kind emails ASAP or sync those kind emails when evolution go offline. So we should add some sync ruler, and sync now, and sunc later. I think this function would be very cool, I didn't see another email client have this function. What do you mean exactly with these options? -- Ettore Perazzoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Verifying of signatures
On Mon, 2002-12-23 at 05:11, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote: Yo! I'm a bit disappointed by Evo 1.2.x - I've heard rumour that it now fixes all known GPG related bugs. Dropping inline support is imho not a fix, but I can understand it. it is the only fix that can be done. no matter what you do, we cannot reliably verify all inline-pgp signatures because there are a number of problems with the format, which is why rfc3156 was written and pushed. so, you either have to accept the fact that things won't always work or you have to just drop support for it completely. Users would never be happy with something that didn't work 100% of the time, so we dropped it. As for MIME: I've still quite a few problems. Here are the cases I've had recently: - I can't verify messages I've sent myself when the attachment is a rfc822-message (what's that MIME type again? You know what I mean). (evo 1.2.1, gpg 1.2.1) I'll look into this, but afaik it works. - I often can't verify messages sent from Outlook with GPGRelay: | X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 and | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- | Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (MingW32) - GPGrelay v0.90 Verified that mutt can verify the sig in this case. well, does GPGRelay fully comply with rfc3156? if not, well... that would be why it doesn't work :-) - Just recently, a case of BAD signature with User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.9.15 (Unchained Melody) Emacs/21.2 Mule/5.0 Verified: I could verify that signature manually. can you attach a sample message to bugzilla.ximian.com illustrating this particular problem? Does it help to send you the messaages? yes. Jeff cheers -- vbi -- Jeffrey Stedfast Evolution Hacker - Ximian, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ximian.com ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Verifying of signatures
On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 15:32, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: [snip] Here are the cases I've had recently: - I can't verify messages I've sent myself when the attachment is a rfc822-message (what's that MIME type again? You know what I mean). (evo 1.2.1, gpg 1.2.1) I'll look into this, but afaik it works. just checked and this does indeed work as it should. Perhaps your SMTP or other mail server(s) modified the message in some way? This *can* happen. Jeff -- Jeffrey Stedfast Evolution Hacker - Ximian, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ximian.com ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Verifying of signatures
On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 21:37, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 15:32, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: [snip] Here are the cases I've had recently: - I can't verify messages I've sent myself when the attachment is a rfc822-message (what's that MIME type again? You know what I mean). (evo 1.2.1, gpg 1.2.1) I'll look into this, but afaik it works. just checked and this does indeed work as it should. Perhaps your SMTP or other mail server(s) modified the message in some way? This *can* happen. This one is a bogofilter bug. Sorry, I should have spotted this right away. cheers -- vbi -- If you are going to run a rinky-dink distro made by a couple of volunteers, why not run a rinky-dink distro made by a lot of volunteers? -- Jaldhar H. Vyas on debian-devel signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Verifying of signatures
Would you please attach them to bugzilla anyway? I want to be 100% sure that I am looking at the raw message sources as they are in your mbox file(s). Thanks. Jeff On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 16:59, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote: On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 21:37, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 15:32, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: [snip] Here are the cases I've had recently: - I can't verify messages I've sent myself when the attachment is a rfc822-message (what's that MIME type again? You know what I mean). (evo 1.2.1, gpg 1.2.1) I'll look into this, but afaik it works. just checked and this does indeed work as it should. Perhaps your SMTP or other mail server(s) modified the message in some way? This *can* happen. This one is a bogofilter bug. Sorry, I should have spotted this right away. cheers -- vbi -- Jeffrey Stedfast Evolution Hacker - Ximian, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ximian.com ___ evolution-hackers maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Verifying of signatures
On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 17:12, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote: [snip] I don't care which rfc is followed. 2015 or 3156, all I see is that evolution is quite often not verifying signatures, and when I ask, all of the others (except fellow evolution victims) can verify the signature. As you said: something that doesn't work in 100% of the time... nah, PGP/MIME *can* work reliably, inline-pgp cannot. that's the difference. - Just recently, a case of BAD signature with [...] can you attach a sample message to bugzilla.ximian.com illustrating this particular problem? Some of the messages attached. Sorry, get me a proper reportbug script and I'll use your bug tracking system, but I really dislike the bugzilla ui. I find bugzilla quite easy to use, much simpler than debbugs for example. is there something better? I was able to verify all the sample messages so my guess is that you are experiencing the bug reported to [EMAIL PROTECTED] a few weeks ago (which I've already fixed). See attached message text for details. Jeff -- Jeffrey Stedfast Evolution Hacker - Ximian, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ximian.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Dec 15 17:25:05 2002 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 25955 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2002 17:25:05 - Received: from trna.ximian.com (141.154.95.22) by peabody.ximian.com with SMTP; 15 Dec 2002 17:25:05 - Received: from myocardial-infarction.ximian.com ([EMAIL PROTECTED] [65.214.56.75]) by trna.ximian.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBFHPhJ20862 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 12:25:43 -0500 Received: from ximian-lists.ximian.com (ximian-lists.ximian.com [141.154.95.16]) by myocardial-infarction.ximian.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A432E12004D for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 12:25:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: [evolution-patches] fix for bug in multipart/signed verify code From: Jeffrey Stedfast [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Security: MIME headers sanitized on peabody See http://www.impsec.org/email-tools/sanitizer-intro.html for details. $Revision: 1.132 $Date: 2001-12-05 20:20:17-08 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary==-sfTrAPVgD3a4YRToEJD2 Organization: Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.1.99 Date: 15 Dec 2002 12:23:16 -0500 List-Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Owner: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Host: Publicly-available Ximian mailing lists Reply-To: Jeffrey Stedfast [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-LYRIS-Message-Id: LYRIS-1363-20100-2002.12.15-12.25.01--fejj#[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-102.4 required=4.1 tests=PATCH_UNIFIED_DIFF,RCVD_IN_RFCI,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_IN_WHITELIST version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: X-Evolution-Source: imap:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ --=-sfTrAPVgD3a4YRToEJD2 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit It seems there was a copy/paste-o in the verify code for multipart/signed. Whatever data we receive we do not want to strip any trailing whitespace as that would change the message data. We have to assume that whatever data we get is how it was signed. (we still want to convert to CRLF tho of course) Jeff -- Jeffrey Stedfast Evolution Hacker - Ximian, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ximian.com --=-sfTrAPVgD3a4YRToEJD2 Content-Disposition: inline; filename=mps.patch Content-Type: text/plain; name=mps.patch; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ? mps.patch Index: ChangeLog === RCS file: /cvs/gnome/evolution/camel/ChangeLog,v retrieving revision 1.1681.2.4 diff -u -r1.1681.2.4 ChangeLog --- ChangeLog 4 Dec 2002 16:10:34 - 1.1681.2.4 +++ ChangeLog 15 Dec 2002 17:22:11 - @@ -1,3 +1,10 @@ +2002-12-15 Jeffrey Stedfast [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + * camel-multipart-signed.c (camel_multipart_signed_verify): Don't + apply the CANON_STRIP filter here, since we are verifying whatever + raw data we received (all we want to do is convert o the canonical + CRLF format). + 2002-12-03 Jeffrey Stedfast [EMAIL PROTECTED] * providers/imap/camel-imap-store-summary.c Index: camel-multipart-signed.c === RCS file: /cvs/gnome/evolution/camel/camel-multipart-signed.c,v retrieving revision 1.3 diff -u -r1.3 camel-multipart-signed.c --- camel-multipart-signed.c14 Jun 2002 20:15:00 - 1.3 +++ camel-multipart-signed.c15 Dec 2002 17:22:11 - @@ -586,7 +586,8 @@ mem = camel_stream_mem_new(); filter = camel_stream_filter_new_with_stream(mem); - + + /* Note: see rfc2015 or rfc3156, section 5 */ canon_filter =
[Evolution] Proxy settings
Hi, I use a dutch system so i will try to use the correct syntax. In the main screen summary you have the weather and news, at work without a proxy everything works fine, but at home where i must use proxy setting for my ISP i get errors is there a way to get it work at home also ? Thank you -- Knowledge in a databank,is like food which is in a deepfreeze. Nothing comes out better than what is initially put in. PGP Key: http://users.pandora.be/rivendell/marquetp.gpg.gz Registered Linux User #44550 http://counter.li.org signature.asc Description: Dit berichtdeel is digitaal gesigneerd
Re: [Evolution] Problem with clickable links.
Hi Not Zed I tried it and it did nothing. No errors. Here is what I tried [Jim@localhost Jim]$ gnome-moz-remote http://www.ximian.com [Jim@localhost Jim]$ gnome-moz-remote [Jim@localhost Jim]$ su - root Password: [root@localhost root]# gnome-moz-remote http://www.ximian.com [root@localhost root]# which gnome-moz-remote /usr/bin/gnome-moz-remote [root@localhost root]# gnome-moz-remote --version Gnome gnome-moz-remote 1.4.1.2 [root@localhost root]# I even shut down Mozilla, still nothing came up. Very strange. Happened after I deleted an old version of Mozilla still on my computer. I think it has something to do with that. But I haven't seen anywhere in Evolution config files where it names a browser. Stranger still, K-Mail links are clickable. Thanks for the response. Jim On Wed, 2003-01-01 at 19:53, Not Zed wrote: On Thu, 2002-12-26 at 01:15, Jim Macdonald wrote: Good morning With Ximian Evolution, I used to be able click on links and bring up Mozilla, until I erased an old Mozilla. Now I click on links, nothing comes up. When I right click, I get a pop-up with Open Link in Browser (which doesn't) or Copy Link, to where I don't know. I did a google search and they told me to change my .gnome/Gnome file, which I did to the below. Nothing. What happens if you open a terminal and try and run gnome-moz-remote http://www.ximian.com/ for example ... i suspect it'll print out some errors. If it works then i'm beat ... [URL Handlers] default-show=gnome-moz-remote %s info-show=gnome-help-browser %s man-show=gnome-help-browser %s ghelp-show=gnome-help-browser %s http-show=gnome-moz-remote %s https-show=gnome-moz-remote %s ftp-show=gnome-moz-remote %s Anyone who could help would be greatly appreciated. Jim Macdonald Ponte Vedra Beach, Fl. Any help would be really appreciated. ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Problem with clickable links.
cheers();
I tried it and it did nothing. No errors. Here is what I tried
[Jim@localhost Jim]$ gnome-moz-remote http://www.ximian.com
[Jim@localhost Jim]$ gnome-moz-remote
[Jim@localhost Jim]$ su - root
Password:
[root@localhost root]# gnome-moz-remote http://www.ximian.com
[root@localhost root]# which gnome-moz-remote
/usr/bin/gnome-moz-remote
[root@localhost root]# gnome-moz-remote --version
Gnome gnome-moz-remote 1.4.1.2
[root@localhost root]#
I even shut down Mozilla, still nothing came up. Very strange. Happened
after I deleted an old version of Mozilla still on my computer. I think
it has something to do with that. But I haven't seen anywhere in
Evolution config files where it names a browser. Stranger still, K-Mail
links are clickable. Thanks for the response.
After deleting the older version, is there still a mozilla in your path?
% which mozilla
If not, create a symlink in /usr/bin/ to the mozilla executable. Works
for me with mozilla .tar.gz installer from mozilla.org -- all that is
missing is the symlink.
...guenther
--
char *t=\10pse\0r\0dtu\0.@ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4;
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;il;i++){ i%8? c=1:
(c=*++x); c128 (s+=h); if (!(h=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}
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[Evolution] Default Browser for Evolution
Hi I was using Galeon 1.2.6 as default browser when clicking a link in Evolution. Now my Galeon has crashed (last Moz doesn't like Galeon) and I want to go back to Mozilla, but I can't remember how I told to Evolution to open this or that browser. Anyone know how? -- Massimiliano Bini [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Default Browser for Evolution
cheers();
That's getting an FAQ. Can anyone add it to the FAQ list?
I was using Galeon 1.2.6 as default browser when clicking a link in
Evolution. Now my Galeon has crashed (last Moz doesn't like Galeon) and
I want to go back to Mozilla, but I can't remember how I told to
Evolution to open this or that browser. Anyone know how?
That's not related to Evolution, thats an Gnome issue.
Under Gnome1 you can edit this in the Gnome Control Center. Unter Gnome2
you have to edit the file ~/.gnome/Gnome, Section URL Handlers:
[URL Handlers]
default-show=gnome-moz-remote --newwin %s
Also make sure, the mozilla binary is in your path. Sounds like you
installed mozilla 1.2.1 from mozilla.org. What does 'which mozilla' say?
If no mozilla is found, make a symlink like:
% ln -s /usr/local/mozilla/mozilla /usr/bin/mozilla
Good luck...
...guenther
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char *t=\10pse\0r\0dtu\0.@ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4;
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;il;i++){ i%8? c=1:
(c=*++x); c128 (s+=h); if (!(h=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}
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Re: [Evolution] Default Browser for Evolution
Il gio, 2003-01-02 alle 14:44, guenther ha scritto: cheers(); That's getting an FAQ. Can anyone add it to the FAQ list? I was using Galeon 1.2.6 as default browser when clicking a link in Evolution. Now my Galeon has crashed (last Moz doesn't like Galeon) and I want to go back to Mozilla, but I can't remember how I told to Evolution to open this or that browser. Anyone know how? That's not related to Evolution, thats an Gnome issue. Under Gnome1 you can edit this in the Gnome Control Center. Unter Gnome2 you have to edit the file ~/.gnome/Gnome, Section URL Handlers: [URL Handlers] default-show=gnome-moz-remote --newwin %s Hey, you're right :-) thank you very much. Also make sure, the mozilla binary is in your path. Sounds like you installed mozilla 1.2.1 from mozilla.org. What does 'which mozilla' say? If no mozilla is found, make a symlink like: % ln -s /usr/local/mozilla/mozilla /usr/bin/mozilla Mozilla 1.2.1 from mozilla.org. It's working fine, the only missing thing was to be called correctly from Evolution. -- Massimiliano Bini [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Default Browser for Evolution
cheers();
Hey, you're right :-) thank you very much.
NP.
Also make sure, the mozilla binary is in your path. Sounds like you
installed mozilla 1.2.1 from mozilla.org. What does 'which mozilla' say?
If no mozilla is found, make a symlink like:
% ln -s /usr/local/mozilla/mozilla /usr/bin/mozilla
Mozilla 1.2.1 from mozilla.org. It's working fine, the only missing
thing was to be called correctly from Evolution.
AFAIK you will run in trouble, if you put mozilla in the .gnome/Gnome
file. Clicking on an URL when mozilla is already running will get you to
choose an profile, cause mozilla wanna run only once.
Let the gnome-moz-remote in there. You only need an mozilla in your path
for that.
...guenther
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char *t=\10pse\0r\0dtu\0.@ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4;
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;il;i++){ i%8? c=1:
(c=*++x); c128 (s+=h); if (!(h=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}
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[Evolution] GPG and Evolution
Greetings, I've been using Evolution for a short time now and it seems to be a great product. I have a problem I would like to solve, though. I use GPG to sign my emails. I'd like to be able to sign them and have a user with a windows machine and PGP be able to verify the signature. However, PGP doesn't seem to be able to recognize the GPG signature. I understand this is a GPG issue. There is an Evolution part to this, though. Evolution calls GPG internally (from what I can tell)... Is there a way to call GPG from Evolution with certain parameters? Does it automatically use the gpg.conf file when it runs GPG? Is there anything configurable at all regarding GPG in evolution? Oh ... :) And lastly, why does Evolution still call it PGP? *grin* Any help is much appreciated... Thanks, -- --- Jason H. Frisvold Backbone Engineer Penteledata Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] RedHat Certified - RHCE # 807302349405893 --- Something mysterious is formed, born in the silent void. Waiting alone and unmoving, it is at once still and yet in constant motion. It is the source of all programs. I do not know its name, so I will call it the Tao of Programming. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Evolution] Default Browser for Evolution
Il gio, 2003-01-02 alle 15:20, guenther ha scritto: Mozilla 1.2.1 from mozilla.org. It's working fine, the only missing thing was to be called correctly from Evolution. AFAIK you will run in trouble, if you put mozilla in the .gnome/Gnome file. Clicking on an URL when mozilla is already running will get you to choose an profile, cause mozilla wanna run only once. That's the main reason for which before I wanted to use Galeon instead than Moz. BUT: last Moz version (1.2.1, but 1.2b too) looks like has solved this problem: if you run 'mozilla' when another mozilla instance is running, another window will be opened but running the same instance/profile. So there's no more need to call mozilla by remote functions, at least here on my box :-) -- Massimiliano Bini [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] GPG and Evolution
On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 09:26, Jason Frisvold wrote: Greetings, I've been using Evolution for a short time now and it seems to be a great product. I have a problem I would like to solve, though. I use GPG to sign my emails. I'd like to be able to sign them and have a user with a windows machine and PGP be able to verify the signature. However, PGP doesn't seem to be able to recognize the GPG signature. how so? I understand this is a GPG issue. There is an Evolution part to this, though. Evolution calls GPG internally (from what I can tell)... Is there a way to call GPG from Evolution with certain parameters? no, but what parameters would you call gpg with different from what we already do? Does it automatically use the gpg.conf file when it runs GPG? we don't tell gpg to use any gpg.conf file, but gpg does still check it's own config settings in ~/.gnupg/options if that is what you mean? Is there anything configurable at all regarding GPG in evolution? not really, no. other than Always trust which sends the --always-trust option to gpg. Oh ... :) And lastly, why does Evolution still call it PGP? *grin* because gpg implements the Pretty Good Privacy specification. the name wasn't chosen by which executable it runs, but rather the specification it implements. Jeff Any help is much appreciated... Thanks, -- Jeffrey Stedfast Evolution Hacker - Ximian, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ximian.com ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] GPG and Evolution
On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 10:03, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 09:26, Jason Frisvold wrote: Greetings, I've been using Evolution for a short time now and it seems to be a great product. I have a problem I would like to solve, though. I use GPG to sign my emails. I'd like to be able to sign them and have a user with a windows machine and PGP be able to verify the signature. However, PGP doesn't seem to be able to recognize the GPG signature. how so? Well, we use Microsoft Exchange as the Mail server and Outlook as the client. Outlook sees the message itself, but the GPG signature arrives as an attachment (signature.asc) ... I have been very unsuccessful in forcing it to not attach... I was under the impression that the signature should be ascii... Any idea why it's showing up as an attachment? no, but what parameters would you call gpg with different from what we already do? Not sure yet .. was wondering so I could start playing with the parameters in an effort to get this to work in an expected manner. we don't tell gpg to use any gpg.conf file, but gpg does still check it's own config settings in ~/.gnupg/options if that is what you mean? Yes, that's basically what I mean ... Apparently GPG changed since 1.0.7 (which is what RH8.0 ships with) and is supposed to now use a gpg.conf file rather than options. Although, it still read options if it's there... not really, no. other than Always trust which sends the --always-trust option to gpg. *nod* because gpg implements the Pretty Good Privacy specification. the name wasn't chosen by which executable it runs, but rather the specification it implements. Oh, ok ... :) Was just curious... You have a FAQ question explicitly stating that Evolution no longer supports PGP, but still call it PGP within the program ... Just a little confusing... I get the point of it though... Jeff Thanks for the info ... -- --- Jason H. Frisvold Backbone Engineer Penteledata Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] RedHat Certified - RHCE # 807302349405893 --- Something mysterious is formed, born in the silent void. Waiting alone and unmoving, it is at once still and yet in constant motion. It is the source of all programs. I do not know its name, so I will call it the Tao of Programming. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Evolution] GPG and Evolution
On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 10:16, Jason Frisvold wrote: On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 10:03, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 09:26, Jason Frisvold wrote: Greetings, I've been using Evolution for a short time now and it seems to be a great product. I have a problem I would like to solve, though. I use GPG to sign my emails. I'd like to be able to sign them and have a user with a windows machine and PGP be able to verify the signature. However, PGP doesn't seem to be able to recognize the GPG signature. how so? Well, we use Microsoft Exchange as the Mail server and Outlook as the client. Outlook sees the message itself, but the GPG signature arrives as an attachment (signature.asc) ... ah, that's because we follow the PGP/MIME specification (see http://www.ietf.org/rfcs/rfc3156.txt for more info). It's been requested a number of times that we support the inline-pgp kludge a number of times. I have been very unsuccessful in forcing it to not attach... ah, yea - you can't. I was under the impression that the signature should be ascii... it is :-) Any idea why it's showing up as an attachment? yea, we create a detached signature and use the original text part as one part of the multipart/signed and the ascii-armoured signature block as the second (this is what rfc3156 demands). no, but what parameters would you call gpg with different from what we already do? Not sure yet .. was wondering so I could start playing with the parameters in an effort to get this to work in an expected manner. ok, so changing the options won't actually work. we don't tell gpg to use any gpg.conf file, but gpg does still check it's own config settings in ~/.gnupg/options if that is what you mean? Yes, that's basically what I mean ... Apparently GPG changed since 1.0.7 (which is what RH8.0 ships with) and is supposed to now use a gpg.conf file rather than options. Although, it still read options if it's there... ah, right. not really, no. other than Always trust which sends the --always-trust option to gpg. *nod* because gpg implements the Pretty Good Privacy specification. the name wasn't chosen by which executable it runs, but rather the specification it implements. Oh, ok ... :) Was just curious... You have a FAQ question explicitly stating that Evolution no longer supports PGP, but still call it PGP within the program ... Just a little confusing... I get the point of it though... yea, the FAQ should probably be more clear and say that we no longer support NAi's PGP implementations or something such as that. Jeff -- Jeffrey Stedfast Evolution Hacker - Ximian, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ximian.com ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Default Browser for Evolution
cheers();
Mozilla 1.2.1 from mozilla.org. It's working fine, the only missing
thing was to be called correctly from Evolution.
AFAIK you will run in trouble, if you put mozilla in the .gnome/Gnome
file. Clicking on an URL when mozilla is already running will get you to
choose an profile, cause mozilla wanna run only once.
That's the main reason for which before I wanted to use Galeon instead
than Moz. BUT: last Moz version (1.2.1, but 1.2b too) looks like has
solved this problem: if you run 'mozilla' when another mozilla instance
is running, another window will be opened but running the same
instance/profile. So there's no more need to call mozilla by remote
functions, at least here on my box :-)
Strange, doesn't work for me. Calling mozilla from console when already
running gives me the profile selector.
But there still is a reason for a helping caller program: I have a small
perl script, so I get no new window but a new tab, when mozilla is
already running. :)
...guenther
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char *t=\10pse\0r\0dtu\0.@ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4;
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;il;i++){ i%8? c=1:
(c=*++x); c128 (s+=h); if (!(h=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}
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Re: [Evolution] Problems with Evolution
Hi, 02-01-2003, 00:31, Not Zed: After installing 1.2.1 new I noticed new problem: - I have several mail accounts and when I check them using send/receive password dialogs are too narrow - it may sound like a joke but this is serious - I don't see the whole account name and it's not obvious which password should be used, I haven't seen this. If you're saving passwords, you may want to try disabling all but one email account. Then it's unambiguous which one you're being prompted for. Repeat as necessary with the other accounts, and you'll get them all eventually. Granted, if you don't want to save passwords, this isn't going to work well. This might be theme related? Are you using a non-default theme? We're just using a gnome dialogue, so i'd have thought it would size appropriately :-/ I usually use KDE, not GNOME, I've installed Evo using Red Carpet, so I think theme should be default.. :) Regards, Jarek -- Jaroslaw Nozderko [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Default Browser for Evolution
Il gio, 2003-01-02 alle 16:53, guenther ha scritto: That's the main reason for which before I wanted to use Galeon instead than Moz. BUT: last Moz version (1.2.1, but 1.2b too) looks like has solved this problem: if you run 'mozilla' when another mozilla instance is running, another window will be opened but running the same instance/profile. So there's no more need to call mozilla by remote functions, at least here on my box :-) Strange, doesn't work for me. Calling mozilla from console when already running gives me the profile selector. But there still is a reason for a helping caller program: I have a small perl script, so I get no new window but a new tab, when mozilla is already running. :) I've tried to make something similar but I'm pretty noobs to perl. I've found how to send the new URL to another a new tabs instead than opening a new window (it's a lot faster), but didn't know how to check if mozilla is already running (in which case a new Moz window must be instanced). Can you share your script? :-) BTW: we are going from Evo to Moz questions, so I'll stop posting on the mailing list regarding this subject. ...guenther -- Massimiliano Bini [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Default Browser for Evolution
cheers();
But there still is a reason for a helping caller program: I have a small
perl script, so I get no new window but a new tab, when mozilla is
already running. :)
I've tried to make something similar but I'm pretty noobs to perl. I've
found how to send the new URL to another a new tabs instead than opening
a new window (it's a lot faster), but didn't know how to check if
mozilla is already running (in which case a new Moz window must be
instanced). Can you share your script? :-)
Of course, it's attached.
(Don't ask me about those parameters please, I stripped off all not
necessary from a python script, floating around some time.)
You have to change the line in .gnome/Gnome accordingly, so that script
is executed.
default-show=/home/YOU/bin/mozilla-remote %s
And some hint, as that was a problem before: Make the script executable.
Have mozilla and mozilla-moz-remote in your path... ;)
btw: You don't have to check, if mozilla is running. If you can't get
mozilla to open an new tab it is obviously not running...
BTW: we are going from Evo to Moz questions, so I'll stop posting on the
mailing list regarding this subject.
Yeah, your right. But as this is an FAQ I still post the script to the
list. May some others use it too.
Have fun...
...guenther
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char *t=\10pse\0r\0dtu\0.@ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4;
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;il;i++){ i%8? c=1:
(c=*++x); c128 (s+=h); if (!(h=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
my $url = shift;
system (gnome-moz-remote --remote='openURL($url, new-tab)')
system (gnome-moz-remote $url);
Re: [Evolution] Default Browser for Evolution
cheers( again );
Of course, it's attached.
(Don't ask me about those parameters please, I stripped off all not
necessary from a python script, floating around some time.)
You have to change the line in .gnome/Gnome accordingly, so that script
is executed.
default-show=/home/YOU/bin/mozilla-remote %s
And some hint, as that was a problem before: Make the script executable.
Have mozilla and mozilla-moz-remote in your path... ;)
btw: You don't have to check, if mozilla is running. If you can't get
mozilla to open an new tab it is obviously not running...
Uh, must have not enough coffee, when I was coding that. Why bringing up
the big perl, when a lightweight bash is sufficient... :-/
The same functionality attached, but even smaller. ;)
...guenther
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char *t=\10pse\0r\0dtu\0.@ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4;
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;il;i++){ i%8? c=1:
(c=*++x); c128 (s+=h); if (!(h=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}
#!/bin/sh
gnome-moz-remote --remote='openURL('$1', new-tab)' || gnome-moz-remote $1
[Evolution] Built-in spam filtering?
I didn't have time to check the archives thoroughly but I'm somewhat surprised nobody has put a Bayesian spam filter or something like that into Evolution. I'd kill for that. I'd do it myself if I had the time, but I really don't. Anyway, in case this spurs someone to do some work, I did spend some time working on an imap server based bayesian system. The idea was that with imap the folders are all on the server and I can easily create a special spam folder that users can drag and drop spam into, and use their personal folders for the not-spam side of things. My system was rebuilding the databases every once in awhile out of cron but with a built-in system you could do it as-you-go (which would be cool). This was drop-dead simple to use from the user's point of view (my goal was that my wife should be able to use it without my help). The downfall was that I haven't had the time to get the delivery stuff working and integrated into my mail delivery system. Apple's mail client with Jaguar (OSX 10.2) does something more or less like this, but instead of a spam folder there's a this is spam button. And instead of moving probable spam into a special folder it colorizes them or destroys them (at your option). In some ways I like this, but I would kind of like to be able to go in and edit the spam template messages so I think I'd still rather have a spam folder and have colorization or prioritization versus a trash folder as an option. Anyway, if anyone has time to work on something like this I bet a ton of people would love it. I sure would. In fact, I'd pay money if this feature were an add-on ala Exchange connectivity (hint). I'd also pay money for a Windows version of Evolution (hint hint) so I didn't have to switch to Outlook whenever I have to use Windows. I note that I looked into spamassassin, which seems to be the preferred technique using an external filter, and I really dislike its rule-based system. Way too many false positives, and a lot of work to set up and maintain too. Spam filtering would be a great integrated feature and doesn't look like it'd be a lot of work to implement. jim ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Keybindings, hiding read messages, andattributions...
On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 00:58, Not Zed wrote: On Thu, 2002-12-26 at 05:20, Ibraheem Umaru-Mohammed wrote: Hi, Is there a way to set read messages as hidden by default? I get tired of changing folders and when returning, the first thing i do is hide the read messages. It should remember the ones you've already hidden. It does, but only for the currently running session. But you could try using a virtual folder with only unread messages in it. It will get re-synced whenever you change back to it and automagically remove any newly-read messages. This is a neat. I couldn't work out how to create a virtual folder with only unread messages directly, but I was able to create a filter which moved read messages to another folder, which indirectly meant the corresponding virtual folder only had unread messages. Secondly, are the keybindings configurable at all? When reading a message selected in the index, we get a preview of the message contents. You dont get a preview, youy get the whole message. Ok, s/pre\(view\)/\1/ I want to be able to press PgUp, or PgDn keys to page up or down the message. What currently happens, is that the next or previous message is selected, which is the same action as the Up and Down keys. You can use space and backspace for this. Although some keybindings are configurable, i think these are handled by the display code internally and are not currently :-/ I wasn't aware of the space and backspace. But I am finding myself changing the way I work to suit Evolution, and there isn't much configurability to get Evolution to work the way I want it to. Thirdly, is it possible to configure your attribution string when responding to messages? Just wondering if the quote string and/or the attribution strings are configurable, Not that i can tell. Will it ever be, do you know? Finally, I'd like to configure a key sequence to a shell command, with the results inserted into my message. For example, coming from Mutt (vim), I would read in the output of a command such as boxes, into my message...is there a way I could achieve this in evolution, or perhaps achieving something similar other than inserting a text file or whatever? I dont believe so, you have to do it via an intermediate file :-/ Ok. Thanks for your responses. Kindest regards, --ibz. ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
[Evolution] language (spell-checker) switching
Hi, is it possible to change spell-checkers on the fly in evolution? This would be SUPER helpful, for those of us who work in multi-lingual environments, eliminating the need to compose emails in a word processor and cut paste. This would be a true benefit for work environments that can further set Evolution apart from the competition. This would be especially useful if it required a minimum of menu surfing. Thank you. - Paul Rodriguez ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
[Evolution] evolution 1.2.1 attachments
Hello, I mentioned my problem a few weeks ago (I can not open my attachments ,such as postscript files,with an external application like gv) Even a clean .gnome tar which worked in another environment (thanks John) didnt solve my problem Does anybody know which file to edit and what the entry should look like? Thanks Uwe ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] language (spell-checker) switching
cheers();
Hi, is it possible to change spell-checkers on the fly in evolution?
This would be SUPER helpful, for those of us who work in multi-lingual
environments, eliminating the need to compose emails in a word processor
and cut paste. This would be a true benefit for work environments
that can further set Evolution apart from the competition. This would
be especially useful if it required a minimum of menu surfing.
That may be a good feature for some people communicating in a lot of
languages.
As I only write in English and German I have enabled both. Works really
good for me. Perhaps an option for you?
(In UI it would need to be a menu with non-exclusive ckeckboxes to
enable more than one language.) How hard would it be, to write such code
as a 'shortcut' to the settings? Sorry, don't know, cause I didn't had
the time to check code myself.
...guenther
--
char *t=\10pse\0r\0dtu\0.@ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4;
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;il;i++){ i%8? c=1:
(c=*++x); c128 (s+=h); if (!(h=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}
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RE: [Evolution] Evolution, LDAP, etc. - rehashed
Kirk Strauser wrote: - ... include /usr/local/etc/openldap/schema/evolutionperson.schema ... - on RH72 this was found at /usr/share/evolution/evolutionperson.schema, or a quick: locate evolutionperson.schema will find it. - Noticed too that Categories is grayed out. - It took me awhile (being fairly green to ldap) to understand the implementation that evolution uses. I do have it working, but have noticed a problem: If I drag a contact from my main contact list to the ldap folder, it puts the new contact into ldap just fine. But, when I try to access it from one of the filtering tabs, it comes up blank. If I then press the clear button it shows up out there blank as well. I can check it using gq and the proper entry is there (ie not blank) but it will not show up in evolution with any data. If, using gq, I delete the entry and press clear in evolution in the ldap server folder, the blank entry is gone. So I tried to just create an entry by double clicking in the display area in the ldap server folder and then filling in the contact information (just as it appeared in the contacts entry in the contact folder) and saving it. The entry shows up in the cleared list, so I then press the filter button for the contacts last name and it now appears there also, no blank data. So there appears to be something internal that flags the record in a certain way making it blank (or maybe un-visible). Would like to know how to fix this as I have many many contacts and don't really want to re-enter them. Any ideas ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] language (spell-checker) switching
How do you enable the languages? And how does it work having both
languages enabled at the same time. If I write a word in either
language in the same email it will recognize it? That would be cool.
A language menu the Format menu would be great, they don't have to be
non-exclusive, as you say, but I can see how that could be helpful. And
they only have to show the installed dictionaries.
- Paul
On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 13:47, guenther wrote:
cheers();
Hi, is it possible to change spell-checkers on the fly in evolution?
This would be SUPER helpful, for those of us who work in multi-lingual
environments, eliminating the need to compose emails in a word processor
and cut paste. This would be a true benefit for work environments
that can further set Evolution apart from the competition. This would
be especially useful if it required a minimum of menu surfing.
That may be a good feature for some people communicating in a lot of
languages.
As I only write in English and German I have enabled both. Works really
good for me. Perhaps an option for you?
(In UI it would need to be a menu with non-exclusive ckeckboxes to
enable more than one language.) How hard would it be, to write such code
as a 'shortcut' to the settings? Sorry, don't know, cause I didn't had
the time to check code myself.
...guenther
--
char *t=\10pse\0r\0dtu\0.@ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4;
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;il;i++){ i%8? c=1:
(c=*++x); c128 (s+=h); if (!(h=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}
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Re: [Evolution] language (spell-checker) switching
cheers();
How do you enable the languages? And how does it work having both
languages enabled at the same time. If I write a word in either
language in the same email it will recognize it? That would be cool.
A language menu the Format menu would be great, they don't have to be
non-exclusive, as you say, but I can see how that could be helpful. And
they only have to show the installed dictionaries.
In Evolution 1.2.1 just go to
Tools / Settings / Composer Preferences / Spell Checking
and enable all the languages, you need. That works with German and
English for me.
Yes, Evolution spell-checks in all languages at the same time.
Evolution kann gleichzeitig mehrere Sprachen (wie Deutsch und Englisch)
korrigieren. Thats German and there is no error shown by Evolution.
It's correct, though... ;)
No, non-exclusive is really necessary. If not, it would be a step
backward to what I have now...
...guenther
--
char *t=\10pse\0r\0dtu\0.@ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4;
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;il;i++){ i%8? c=1:
(c=*++x); c128 (s+=h); if (!(h=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}
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[Evolution] Evolution's GPG Behavior
I thought about what JF had said, and did a quick test of my own. I sent a test message from another account, using Kmail, to this account, which uses Evolution. The results are below. Am I to take it that this is due to the signature being inlined, rather than attached? -Forwarded Message- From: Bill Hartwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Test Message Date: 02 Jan 2003 09:08:06 -0700 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Test Message - -- All private email sent with PGP encryption. Email for key. Homepage: http://www.macmanusnet.net/ Freedom in our lifetime: http://www.freestateproject.org Enforce the Bill of Rights: http://www.lneilsmith.com/bor_enforcement.html A July 1993 U.S. Department of Justice study found that boys who own legal firearms ... have much lower rates of delinquency and drug use [than those who obtained them illegally] and are even slightly less delinquent than nonowners of guns. It concluded that, for legal gunowners, socialization appears to take place in the family; for illegal gunowners, it appears to take place 'on the street' . - U.S. Department of Justice -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+FGPoAEWCS/G3bx4RAk8OAJ9eJcRYTSumWRKiqMpwY7bMT0WzIQCdE5ym K/CBCqS/JyrWdStsQ7R515E= =3DMW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Bill Hartwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacManus Enterprises signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Evolution] Evolution's GPG Behavior
I don't understand what you're asking. Jeff On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 15:18, Bill Hartwell wrote: I thought about what JF had said, and did a quick test of my own. I sent a test message from another account, using Kmail, to this account, which uses Evolution. The results are below. Am I to take it that this is due to the signature being inlined, rather than attached? -Forwarded Message- From: Bill Hartwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Test Message Date: 02 Jan 2003 09:08:06 -0700 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Test Message - -- All private email sent with PGP encryption. Email for key. Homepage: http://www.macmanusnet.net/ Freedom in our lifetime: http://www.freestateproject.org Enforce the Bill of Rights: http://www.lneilsmith.com/bor_enforcement.html A July 1993 U.S. Department of Justice study found that boys who own legal firearms ... have much lower rates of delinquency and drug use [than those who obtained them illegally] and are even slightly less delinquent than nonowners of guns. It concluded that, for legal gunowners, socialization appears to take place in the family; for illegal gunowners, it appears to take place 'on the street' . - U.S. Department of Justice -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+FGPoAEWCS/G3bx4RAk8OAJ9eJcRYTSumWRKiqMpwY7bMT0WzIQCdE5ym K/CBCqS/JyrWdStsQ7R515E= =3DMW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Jeffrey Stedfast Evolution Hacker - Ximian, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ximian.com ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] language (spell-checker) switching
On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 12:39, guenther wrote: Yes, Evolution spell-checks in all languages at the same time. Evolution kann gleichzeitig mehrere Sprachen (wie Deutsch und Englisch) korrigieren. Thats German and there is no error shown by Evolution. It's correct, though... ;) I just did a check, and the spell-checker is somewhat broken. It doesn't trap thats, which is not a word in English. That's is the correct spelling... Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Evolution's GPG Behavior
Does Evolution not detect in-lined signatures? I would have expected to see Evolution check 2 signatures on this email as there was the attached one and the in-lined one... Incidently, I cannot verify PGP signatures at all because they are in-lined... I believe this is mentioned in the FAQ? On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 15:25, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: I don't understand what you're asking. Jeff On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 15:18, Bill Hartwell wrote: I thought about what JF had said, and did a quick test of my own. I sent a test message from another account, using Kmail, to this account, which uses Evolution. The results are below. Am I to take it that this is due to the signature being inlined, rather than attached? -Forwarded Message- From: Bill Hartwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Test Message Date: 02 Jan 2003 09:08:06 -0700 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Test Message - -- All private email sent with PGP encryption. Email for key. Homepage: http://www.macmanusnet.net/ Freedom in our lifetime: http://www.freestateproject.org Enforce the Bill of Rights: http://www.lneilsmith.com/bor_enforcement.html A July 1993 U.S. Department of Justice study found that boys who own legal firearms ... have much lower rates of delinquency and drug use [than those who obtained them illegally] and are even slightly less delinquent than nonowners of guns. It concluded that, for legal gunowners, socialization appears to take place in the family; for illegal gunowners, it appears to take place 'on the street' . - U.S. Department of Justice -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+FGPoAEWCS/G3bx4RAk8OAJ9eJcRYTSumWRKiqMpwY7bMT0WzIQCdE5ym K/CBCqS/JyrWdStsQ7R515E= =3DMW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- --- Jason H. Frisvold Backbone Engineer Penteledata Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] RedHat Certified - RHCE # 807302349405893 --- Something mysterious is formed, born in the silent void. Waiting alone and unmoving, it is at once still and yet in constant motion. It is the source of all programs. I do not know its name, so I will call it the Tao of Programming. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Evolution] Evolution's GPG Behavior
If I understand what you were saying earlier, email clients (like Kmail) that make the signature a part of the body of the message, rather than a separate attachment, do not understand the signatures that Evolution sends? I just did a personal test to see if the reverse is true as well - that Evolution does not understand a signature if it is included in the body of the message, rather than being a separate attachment. It appears that that is the case, since the message opened in my inbox as you see here, without the indication that it was a signed message. The same happened when I sent myself an encrypted message. It appeared in my inbox encrypted, rather than being transparently decrypted. To verify the signature, or to decrypt the message, I had to copy it and send it to gpg manually. On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 13:25, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: I don't understand what you're asking. Jeff On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 15:18, Bill Hartwell wrote: I thought about what JF had said, and did a quick test of my own. I sent a test message from another account, using Kmail, to this account, which uses Evolution. The results are below. Am I to take it that this is due to the signature being inlined, rather than attached? -Forwarded Message- From: Bill Hartwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Test Message Date: 02 Jan 2003 09:08:06 -0700 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Test Message - -- All private email sent with PGP encryption. Email for key. Homepage: http://www.macmanusnet.net/ Freedom in our lifetime: http://www.freestateproject.org Enforce the Bill of Rights: http://www.lneilsmith.com/bor_enforcement.html A July 1993 U.S. Department of Justice study found that boys who own legal firearms ... have much lower rates of delinquency and drug use [than those who obtained them illegally] and are even slightly less delinquent than nonowners of guns. It concluded that, for legal gunowners, socialization appears to take place in the family; for illegal gunowners, it appears to take place 'on the street' . - U.S. Department of Justice -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+FGPoAEWCS/G3bx4RAk8OAJ9eJcRYTSumWRKiqMpwY7bMT0WzIQCdE5ym K/CBCqS/JyrWdStsQ7R515E= =3DMW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Bill Hartwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacManus Enterprises signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Evolution] Evolution's GPG Behavior
yep, your observation would be correct. Jeff On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 15:43, Bill Hartwell wrote: If I understand what you were saying earlier, email clients (like Kmail) that make the signature a part of the body of the message, rather than a separate attachment, do not understand the signatures that Evolution sends? I just did a personal test to see if the reverse is true as well - that Evolution does not understand a signature if it is included in the body of the message, rather than being a separate attachment. It appears that that is the case, since the message opened in my inbox as you see here, without the indication that it was a signed message. The same happened when I sent myself an encrypted message. It appeared in my inbox encrypted, rather than being transparently decrypted. To verify the signature, or to decrypt the message, I had to copy it and send it to gpg manually. On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 13:25, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: I don't understand what you're asking. Jeff On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 15:18, Bill Hartwell wrote: I thought about what JF had said, and did a quick test of my own. I sent a test message from another account, using Kmail, to this account, which uses Evolution. The results are below. Am I to take it that this is due to the signature being inlined, rather than attached? -Forwarded Message- From: Bill Hartwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Test Message Date: 02 Jan 2003 09:08:06 -0700 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Test Message - -- All private email sent with PGP encryption. Email for key. Homepage: http://www.macmanusnet.net/ Freedom in our lifetime: http://www.freestateproject.org Enforce the Bill of Rights: http://www.lneilsmith.com/bor_enforcement.html A July 1993 U.S. Department of Justice study found that boys who own legal firearms ... have much lower rates of delinquency and drug use [than those who obtained them illegally] and are even slightly less delinquent than nonowners of guns. It concluded that, for legal gunowners, socialization appears to take place in the family; for illegal gunowners, it appears to take place 'on the street' . - U.S. Department of Justice -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+FGPoAEWCS/G3bx4RAk8OAJ9eJcRYTSumWRKiqMpwY7bMT0WzIQCdE5ym K/CBCqS/JyrWdStsQ7R515E= =3DMW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Jeffrey Stedfast Evolution Hacker - Ximian, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ximian.com ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
[Evolution] Can't authenticate Evo LDAP against Exchange 5.5
Just upgraded to Evo 1.2.1 and have an operational (works with Outlook Express) Exchange 5.5 LDAP system. I used the directory servers tool to configure Evo to query the Ex 5.5 server. It's configured to use my email account for authentication. I click the name of the directory and am prompted for a password but the authentication fails. I then get a warning that the LDAP server is being anonymously accessed - I click OK. If I then try to search for an entry I get the message there are no items to show in this view. Any Ideas what I'm doing wrong? Thanks Much John Clay -- John Clay [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Evolution's GPG Behavior
On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 15:37, Jason Frisvold wrote: Does Evolution not detect in-lined signatures? right, evolution doesn't support any form of inline-pgp. we only support PGP/MIME as specificed in http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3156.txt Jeff I would have expected to see Evolution check 2 signatures on this email as there was the attached one and the in-lined one... Incidently, I cannot verify PGP signatures at all because they are in-lined... I believe this is mentioned in the FAQ? On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 15:25, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: I don't understand what you're asking. Jeff On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 15:18, Bill Hartwell wrote: I thought about what JF had said, and did a quick test of my own. I sent a test message from another account, using Kmail, to this account, which uses Evolution. The results are below. Am I to take it that this is due to the signature being inlined, rather than attached? -Forwarded Message- From: Bill Hartwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Test Message Date: 02 Jan 2003 09:08:06 -0700 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Test Message - -- All private email sent with PGP encryption. Email for key. Homepage: http://www.macmanusnet.net/ Freedom in our lifetime: http://www.freestateproject.org Enforce the Bill of Rights: http://www.lneilsmith.com/bor_enforcement.html A July 1993 U.S. Department of Justice study found that boys who own legal firearms ... have much lower rates of delinquency and drug use [than those who obtained them illegally] and are even slightly less delinquent than nonowners of guns. It concluded that, for legal gunowners, socialization appears to take place in the family; for illegal gunowners, it appears to take place 'on the street' . - U.S. Department of Justice -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+FGPoAEWCS/G3bx4RAk8OAJ9eJcRYTSumWRKiqMpwY7bMT0WzIQCdE5ym K/CBCqS/JyrWdStsQ7R515E= =3DMW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Jeffrey Stedfast Evolution Hacker - Ximian, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ximian.com ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] configuration database not found (again) in 1.2.1
On Wed, 2003-01-01 at 15:20, Massimiliano Bini wrote: Il mer, 2003-01-01 alle 07:06, Matthew Johnson ha scritto: Got a fix from someone else on this list (thank you, evolution is the best GUI mail client out there imho). check /etc/ld.so.conf and make sure /usr/lib is there and then run ldconfig. If that doesn't do it I am sure other epxerts here will help out :) Matt Ok I've solved the problem by adding right environment variable as described in the previous message: in fact, running evo by console had made an output identical to the issue previously posted. And solution was the same. The only thing I'm missing is: why I've lost those env var? really don't know Thanks to all for the support Maxevolution [EMAIL PROTECTED] mozilla.org packages typically stash shared libraries needed by Evolution into unusual directories. Noting from another mail that you'd installed mozilla 1.2.1 from mozilla.org, I'm willing to bet that's the source of the problem. Mozilla packages from Ximian and from most Linux vendors put those libraries in more standard locations; hence, you probably didn't need that environment variable before. -Mark Gordon ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Evolution's GPG Behavior
Anything on the roadmap to add inline support? On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 15:39, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 15:37, Jason Frisvold wrote: Does Evolution not detect in-lined signatures? right, evolution doesn't support any form of inline-pgp. we only support PGP/MIME as specificed in http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3156.txt Jeff -- --- Jason H. Frisvold Backbone Engineer Penteledata Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] RedHat Certified - RHCE # 807302349405893 --- Something mysterious is formed, born in the silent void. Waiting alone and unmoving, it is at once still and yet in constant motion. It is the source of all programs. I do not know its name, so I will call it the Tao of Programming. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Evolution] Evolution's GPG Behavior
not that I'm aware of. it's also one of those really irritatingly difficult things to add support for. Jeff On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 16:08, Jason Frisvold wrote: Anything on the roadmap to add inline support? On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 15:39, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 15:37, Jason Frisvold wrote: Does Evolution not detect in-lined signatures? right, evolution doesn't support any form of inline-pgp. we only support PGP/MIME as specificed in http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3156.txt Jeff -- Jeffrey Stedfast Evolution Hacker - Ximian, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ximian.com ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] configuration database not found (again) in 1.2.1
cheers();
mozilla.org packages typically stash shared libraries needed by
Evolution into unusual directories. Noting from another mail that you'd
installed mozilla 1.2.1 from mozilla.org, I'm willing to bet that's the
source of the problem. Mozilla packages from Ximian and from most Linux
vendors put those libraries in more standard locations; hence, you
probably didn't need that environment variable before.
Sorry Mark, I really don't get that. What's the point with mozilla
packages from mozilla.org? Do they really share libraries? Especially
Gnome related ones?
I am running Mandrake 9.0, no mozilla RPMs from Mandrake though, only
mozilla 1.2.1 from mozilla.org. Everything really runs smoothly here,
including gnome-moz-remote. (After i put mozilla in the path, for sure.)
Would really wanna know, if I missed something here...
...guenther
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main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;il;i++){ i%8? c=1:
(c=*++x); c128 (s+=h); if (!(h=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}
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Re: [Evolution] configuration database not found (again) in 1.2.1
On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 16:44, guenther wrote: cheers(); mozilla.org packages typically stash shared libraries needed by Evolution into unusual directories. Noting from another mail that you'd installed mozilla 1.2.1 from mozilla.org, I'm willing to bet that's the source of the problem. Mozilla packages from Ximian and from most Linux vendors put those libraries in more standard locations; hence, you probably didn't need that environment variable before. Sorry Mark, I really don't get that. What's the point with mozilla packages from mozilla.org? Do they really share libraries? Especially Gnome related ones? I am running Mandrake 9.0, no mozilla RPMs from Mandrake though, only mozilla 1.2.1 from mozilla.org. Everything really runs smoothly here, including gnome-moz-remote. (After i put mozilla in the path, for sure.) Would really wanna know, if I missed something here... ...guenther Evolution uses some of mozilla's shared libraries (more specifically, mozilla-nspr's libraries). Ximian and various Linux vendors typically put these in /usr/lib. mozilla.org has been putting them in /usr/lib/mozilla-version, which will break Evolution unless the directory in question is in either /etc/ld.so.conf or $LD_LIBRARY_PATH. At least, I *think* that's the problem everyone is talking about... -Mark Gordon ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Built-in spam filtering?
Its been suggested before ... You could just use an external app, and link it in the same way the spamassasin stuff is normally linked in. I still think doing it at the server end is the way to go though, otherwise you have to waste time downloading the message anyway. On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 03:42, Jim Frost wrote: I didn't have time to check the archives thoroughly but I'm somewhat surprised nobody has put a Bayesian spam filter or something like that into Evolution. I'd kill for that. I'd do it myself if I had the time, but I really don't. Anyway, in case this spurs someone to do some work, I did spend some time working on an imap server based bayesian system. The idea was that with imap the folders are all on the server and I can easily create a special spam folder that users can drag and drop spam into, and use their personal folders for the not-spam side of things. My system was rebuilding the databases every once in awhile out of cron but with a built-in system you could do it as-you-go (which would be cool). This was drop-dead simple to use from the user's point of view (my goal was that my wife should be able to use it without my help). The downfall was that I haven't had the time to get the delivery stuff working and integrated into my mail delivery system. Apple's mail client with Jaguar (OSX 10.2) does something more or less like this, but instead of a spam folder there's a this is spam button. And instead of moving probable spam into a special folder it colorizes them or destroys them (at your option). In some ways I like this, but I would kind of like to be able to go in and edit the spam template messages so I think I'd still rather have a spam folder and have colorization or prioritization versus a trash folder as an option. Anyway, if anyone has time to work on something like this I bet a ton of people would love it. I sure would. In fact, I'd pay money if this feature were an add-on ala Exchange connectivity (hint). I'd also pay money for a Windows version of Evolution (hint hint) so I didn't have to switch to Outlook whenever I have to use Windows. I note that I looked into spamassassin, which seems to be the preferred technique using an external filter, and I really dislike its rule-based system. Way too many false positives, and a lot of work to set up and maintain too. Spam filtering would be a great integrated feature and doesn't look like it'd be a lot of work to implement. jim ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] configuration database not found (again) in 1.2.1
cheers( once_again );
mozilla.org packages typically stash shared libraries needed by
Evolution into unusual directories. Noting from another mail that you'd
installed mozilla 1.2.1 from mozilla.org, I'm willing to bet that's the
source of the problem. Mozilla packages from Ximian and from most Linux
vendors put those libraries in more standard locations; hence, you
probably didn't need that environment variable before.
Sorry Mark, I really don't get that. What's the point with mozilla
packages from mozilla.org? Do they really share libraries? Especially
Gnome related ones?
I am running Mandrake 9.0, no mozilla RPMs from Mandrake though, only
mozilla 1.2.1 from mozilla.org. Everything really runs smoothly here,
including gnome-moz-remote. (After i put mozilla in the path, for sure.)
Would really wanna know, if I missed something here...
Evolution uses some of mozilla's shared libraries (more specifically,
mozilla-nspr's libraries). Ximian and various Linux vendors typically
put these in /usr/lib. mozilla.org has been putting them in
/usr/lib/mozilla-version, which will break Evolution unless the
directory in question is in either /etc/ld.so.conf or $LD_LIBRARY_PATH.
At least, I *think* that's the problem everyone is talking about...
Ok, I have to admit, I do _not_ know, what they are talking about, cause
I never had such problem...
I wanted to see that myself, so I did a qick search:
[root@monkey root]# find / -type f -name '*nspr*'
/usr/lib/libnspr4.so
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libnspr4.so
/usr/local/mozilla/components/libnsprefm.so
/usr/local/mozilla/libnspr4.so
/usr/local/OpenOffice.org/program/libnspr4.so
So, let alone the openoffice libraries, there is 1 of them in a mozilla
specific dir and 1 in /usr/lib. Don't know where it came from, I deleted
all mozilla RPMs from Mandrake.
Since mozilla 1.2 there don't seem to be an /usr/lib/mozilla-version
dir, since I only have an old 1.1 dir remaining. Mozilla 1.2(.1) don't
seem to install anything longer in there.
Maybe they get all their stuff in /usr/local/mozilla or moved it to
/usr/lib.
Maybe that helps, I'm just curious. Everything runs really smothly here.
btw: Thanks for the great Evolution. As I don't have time for coding
right now, I at least wanna give something back by supporting in here.
...guenther
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char *t=\10pse\0r\0dtu\0.@ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4;
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;il;i++){ i%8? c=1:
(c=*++x); c128 (s+=h); if (!(h=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}
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Re: [Evolution] configuration database not found (again) in 1.2.1
cheers();
Whoa, I'm about to get lost in all that communication tonight... ;)
rpm -qf /usr/lib/libnspr4.so might tell you something, if it's still
in package management.
[root@monkey root]# rpm -qf /usr/lib/libnspr4.so
libnspr4-1.1-10mdk
Mandrake seems to make a special package for that.
Should I delete it and make a symlink to the newer version from mozilla
1.2.1? As Evolution uses it, will there be advantages in the newer
version?
...guenther
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char *t=\10pse\0r\0dtu\0.@ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4;
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;il;i++){ i%8? c=1:
(c=*++x); c128 (s+=h); if (!(h=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}
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Re: [Evolution] Built-in spam filtering? (Spam grading is better)
On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 09:12, Jim Frost wrote: I note that I looked into spamassassin, which seems to be the preferred technique using an external filter, and I really dislike its rule-based system. Way too many false positives, and a lot of work to set up and maintain too. Spam filtering would be a great integrated feature and doesn't look like it'd be a lot of work to implement. SpamAssassin + fetchmail + procmail + Evolution is great. One of the big mistakes people make when using spam filtering is to consider it a binary filter: spam or not spam. I have my spam sorted in two categories: marginal and high. I only weekly check my marginal folder, if at all. The high folder do not check at all. The rare false positives you talk about end up in the marginal folder. -Arthur ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
[Evolution] X.509 - S/MIME Support
When will Evolution support X.509 Certificates ? Wasn't it planned a years ago? Federico Quagliata -- Please use my new 0x5539D8E4 GPG key instead of my old one (0x1644D9E3) Linux Registered User: #263663 / Machine: #160060 (Debian 3.0r1/ Woody) On the Net: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - On the Web: http://quaqo.lonex.org On Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - On ICQ: 48618109 - My GPG Key: 0x5539D8E4 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [Evolution] Evolution's GPG Behavior
tor, 2003-01-02 kl. 21:46 skrev Jeffrey Stedfast: yep, your observation would be correct. I had so many complaints from Outlook people (the majority of the great unwashed) about GPG signatures, that I've stopped using GPG. It never did any good, anyway - I reckon it's a lost cause. Who would want to impersonate me? The only point to the whole thing, is sending encrypted mail. Never received one of those, yet, either. But I can and do arrange it such my mail server sends TLS to those I wish it to. Best, Tony -- On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 15:43, Bill Hartwell wrote: If I understand what you were saying earlier, email clients (like Kmail) that make the signature a part of the body of the message, rather than a separate attachment, do not understand the signatures that Evolution sends? I just did a personal test to see if the reverse is true as well - that Evolution does not understand a signature if it is included in the body of the message, rather than being a separate attachment. It appears that that is the case, since the message opened in my inbox as you see here, without the indication that it was a signed message. The same happened when I sent myself an encrypted message. It appeared in my inbox encrypted, rather than being transparently decrypted. To verify the signature, or to decrypt the message, I had to copy it and send it to gpg manually. On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 13:25, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: I don't understand what you're asking. Jeff On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 15:18, Bill Hartwell wrote: I thought about what JF had said, and did a quick test of my own. I sent a test message from another account, using Kmail, to this account, which uses Evolution. The results are below. Am I to take it that this is due to the signature being inlined, rather than attached? -Forwarded Message- From: Bill Hartwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Test Message Date: 02 Jan 2003 09:08:06 -0700 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Test Message - -- All private email sent with PGP encryption. Email for key. Homepage: http://www.macmanusnet.net/ Freedom in our lifetime: http://www.freestateproject.org Enforce the Bill of Rights: http://www.lneilsmith.com/bor_enforcement.html A July 1993 U.S. Department of Justice study found that boys who own legal firearms ... have much lower rates of delinquency and drug use [than those who obtained them illegally] and are even slightly less delinquent than nonowners of guns. It concluded that, for legal gunowners, socialization appears to take place in the family; for illegal gunowners, it appears to take place 'on the street' . - U.S. Department of Justice -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+FGPoAEWCS/G3bx4RAk8OAJ9eJcRYTSumWRKiqMpwY7bMT0WzIQCdE5ym K/CBCqS/JyrWdStsQ7R515E= =3DMW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Tony Earnshaw When all's said and done ... there's nothing left to say or do. e-post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www:http://www.billy.demon.nl ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] X.509 - S/MIME Support
The easiest answer to this question is that it will be supported when somone implements it :-) Jeff On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 19:01, Federico Quagliata wrote: When will Evolution support X.509 Certificates ? Wasn't it planned a years ago? Federico Quagliata -- Jeffrey Stedfast Evolution Hacker - Ximian, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ximian.com ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] X.509 - S/MIME Support
and someone, at Ximian, will :) Carlos On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 19:05, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: The easiest answer to this question is that it will be supported when somone implements it :-) Jeff On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 19:01, Federico Quagliata wrote: When will Evolution support X.509 Certificates ? Wasn't it planned a years ago? Federico Quagliata -- Carlos Montero-Luque[EMAIL PROTECTED] VP, Engineering direct: +1.617.375.3876 Ximian, Inc.cell: +1.617.852.1731 http://www.ximian.com ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Built-in spam filtering?
On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 16:46, Jim Frost wrote:
On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 18:13, guenther wrote:
If you don't control the server, get your own. ;)
I do have my own for personal use. Cannot have my own for corporate
use, don't have the choice.
What, is there a corporate policy preventing you from running your own
(local) email server? How would they even know?
[..]
I want statistical, thanks.
Me too. Bogofilter rocks!
[...]
What pop3 server? Everything I use is imap, which is one reason that
it's hard to use a lot of the existing bayesian tools.
Eh? What does the protocol have to do with which tools you use?
[...]
So, running my own server does work with personal mail although, as I
said, it's not a straightforward drop-in to put in most of the server
based filters. Finding the time to figure out what I need to do has
been problematic. And, even with that done, I still have to deal with
the corporate spam residing on servers I do not and cannot control.
FWIW, I'll describe the system I have set up to use bogofilter (which,
after a month or so of training, has achieved pretty close to 99.9%
detection, and I've yet to get a false positive):
* First, I'm running the UW imap server locally (which sucks, as
you said, but it's really easy...).
* I use fetchmail to grab mail from my various email sources (like
the stupid corporate mandated M$ exchange server).
* I use procmail to filter mail into various folders (like mailing
lists, for example), and also to invoke bogofilter for filtering
spam.
* I use evolution (mostly) to read my mail, so I've also got some
filters set up in evolution that I use to train bogofilter.
* I have also set up a couple of email aliases on the machine in
question so that, when I'm not using evolution, I still have a
way to train bogofilter on new spams (by forwarding the target
email to the given alias).
The only part of this setup that's less than trivially easy is the
procmail setup, so I'll explain that here:
Here are the procmail rules that I use (put in ~/.procmailrc)
# bogospam and bogoham are email aliases I set up for the sole
# purpose of training bogofilter:
# Anything sent to the bogospam mail alias just goes into the
# bogofilter database as spam.
:0HB
* ^TO.*bogospam
| bogofilter -S
# Anything sent to the bogoham mail alias just goes into the
# bogofilter database as legit mail.
:0HB
* ^TO.*bogoham
| bogofilter -H
# Here's where we let bogofilter do its work...
:0HB
* ? bogofilter
{
# If bogofilter thinks this message is spam, reinforce that
# conclusion by adding it to the spam database.
:0HBc
| bogofilter -s
# Then file it away in my spam folder, for later perusal and deletion.
:0
$AUTOFILED/Spam
}
# By default, assume that everything else is not spam (and reinforce
# the assumption by adding it to the non-spam database).
:0EHBc
| bogofilter -n
The evolution filters I use are trivial, although perhaps not obvious:
* First, I defined a couple of labels I can use to label target
messages (spam and not spam)
* Then, when I get a spam that wasn't detected (or if I ever get a
false positive), I label the message in question appropriately,
and re-run the evolution filters on the folder that contains it.
* I have two filters defined (bogofilter spam and bogofilter
not spam.
* The spam filter just has two criteria: [label is spam] and
[pipe message to shell command bogofilter -S]
* The not spam filter has: [label is not spam] and [pipe
message to shell command bogofilter -H] criteria.
Probably 99% of Evolution's users don't run their own servers and would
benefit from this kind of thing even if you personally don't, and a hell
of a lot of people would prefer not to be screwing around with procmail
just to get rid of spam.
That's true. I also think that a lot of people would prefer to not be
screwing around with spam at all (I know that's my preference)!
Cheers!
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Re: [Evolution] Built-in spam filtering? (Spam grading is better)
On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 18:48, Arthur Britto wrote: On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 09:12, Jim Frost wrote: I note that I looked into spamassassin, which seems to be the preferred technique using an external filter, and I really dislike its rule-based system. Way too many false positives, and a lot of work to set up and maintain too. Spam filtering would be a great integrated feature and doesn't look like it'd be a lot of work to implement. SpamAssassin + fetchmail + procmail + Evolution is great. This may be the case, although I reiterate that I don't like spamassassin because it doesn't do as good a job as statistical filters and takes a lot more work to tune. Still, setting up something like this is not straightforward and has no advantages over having an integrated filter. I mean, I have to learn how to set up and maintain not one software package but four. It's nice that you all have the time to screw around with all that stuff, but I have an actual job I have to do. jim ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Built-in spam filtering?
On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 20:36, Brett Johnson wrote: On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 16:46, Jim Frost wrote: On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 18:13, guenther wrote: If you don't control the server, get your own. ;) I do have my own for personal use. Cannot have my own for corporate use, don't have the choice. What, is there a corporate policy preventing you from running your own (local) email server? How would they even know? I could do that if I were so inclined, but I'd have to suck mail out of their server first on a polling basis ... and I wouldn't get their backup support if I did this, nor the web mail support. I would prefer to keep it on their server rather than maintaining yet another server myself in any case (though if they go to Exchange I may do this just out of self preservation). I really do have better things to do than set up chains of software, which was also why I'd rather have filtering in the client than setting up like three or four other software packages just to do filtering for me. What pop3 server? Everything I use is imap, which is one reason that it's hard to use a lot of the existing bayesian tools. Eh? What does the protocol have to do with which tools you use? All of the statistical filtering tools need source data, and every one I've looked at wants that data local. That works fine if I'm running the filters on the same machine as the server, otherwise it's a pain. But not a pain if it's in the client, which can already download and process mail. The only part of this setup that's less than trivially easy is the procmail setup, so I'll explain that here: Thanks, this could be useful. jim ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Built-in spam filtering? (Spam grading is better)
just to get this thread to stop, since it's going no where... Ximian is considering implementing a bayesian spam filter within Evolution itself. Management is pushing for it to be implemented for Evolution 1.4 but I seriously doubt Michael and I will have the time to do it in so short an amount of time, but that doesn't mean it won't make it into the version *after* 1.4 (or a version shortly after?). Jeff On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 21:10, Jim Frost wrote: On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 18:48, Arthur Britto wrote: On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 09:12, Jim Frost wrote: I note that I looked into spamassassin, which seems to be the preferred technique using an external filter, and I really dislike its rule-based system. Way too many false positives, and a lot of work to set up and maintain too. Spam filtering would be a great integrated feature and doesn't look like it'd be a lot of work to implement. SpamAssassin + fetchmail + procmail + Evolution is great. This may be the case, although I reiterate that I don't like spamassassin because it doesn't do as good a job as statistical filters and takes a lot more work to tune. Still, setting up something like this is not straightforward and has no advantages over having an integrated filter. I mean, I have to learn how to set up and maintain not one software package but four. It's nice that you all have the time to screw around with all that stuff, but I have an actual job I have to do. jim ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution -- Jeffrey Stedfast Evolution Hacker - Ximian, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ximian.com ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Built-in spam filtering? (Spam grading is better)
On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 21:46, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: just to get this thread to stop, since it's going no where... Ximian is considering implementing a bayesian spam filter within Evolution itself. Management is pushing for it to be implemented for Evolution 1.4 but I seriously doubt Michael and I will have the time to do it in so short an amount of time, but that doesn't mean it won't make it into the version *after* 1.4 (or a version shortly after?). That is terrific to hear. What kind of timeframe is 1.4, and what are the odds that things might get done faster if you got some help with the initial implementation? I don't know that I have time to help, but I might ... and if my choice is to spend time setting up procmail et al in a one-off versus contributing my time towards a solution that lots of people can use, I'll pick the latter. Though I really hate the idea of going back to C++ :-). jim ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Built-in spam filtering? (Spam grading is better)
On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 21:56, Jim Frost wrote: On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 21:46, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: just to get this thread to stop, since it's going no where... Ximian is considering implementing a bayesian spam filter within Evolution itself. Management is pushing for it to be implemented for Evolution 1.4 but I seriously doubt Michael and I will have the time to do it in so short an amount of time, but that doesn't mean it won't make it into the version *after* 1.4 (or a version shortly after?). That is terrific to hear. What kind of timeframe is 1.4, feature freeze is in 2 weeks and what are the odds that things might get done faster if you got some help with the initial implementation? given that the timeframe is 2 weeks, I'm thinking that the odds aren't much better since any aditional helpers would have to learn the codebase in a jiffy :-) we also need to finish porting evolution to gnome 2.0 :-) I don't know that I have time to help, but I might ... and if my choice is to spend time setting up procmail et al in a one-off versus contributing my time towards a solution that lots of people can use, I'll pick the latter. Though I really hate the idea of going back to C++ :-). it's actually implemented in c, not c++. Jeff -- Jeffrey Stedfast Evolution Hacker - Ximian, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ximian.com ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Keybindings, hiding read messages, andattributions...
On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 02:43, Ibraheem Umaru-Mohammed wrote: On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 00:58, Not Zed wrote: On Thu, 2002-12-26 at 05:20, Ibraheem Umaru-Mohammed wrote: Hi, Is there a way to set read messages as hidden by default? I get tired of changing folders and when returning, the first thing i do is hide the read messages. It should remember the ones you've already hidden. It does, but only for the currently running session. Hmm, its supposed to remember the state even across sessions. But you could try using a virtual folder with only unread messages in it. It will get re-synced whenever you change back to it and automagically remove any newly-read messages. This is a neat. I couldn't work out how to create a virtual folder with only unread messages directly, but I was able to create a filter which moved read messages to another folder, which indirectly meant the corresponding virtual folder only had unread messages. You just have to do 'status' 'is not' 'read', and set the vfolder sources to 'all local and remote folders' Thirdly, is it possible to configure your attribution string when responding to messages? Just wondering if the quote string and/or the attribution strings are configurable, Not that i can tell. Will it ever be, do you know? I thought it already did, but since it doesn't i guess one day something'll happen. The hard part is making a user-friendly gui for it (i.e. one that doesn't use %n and so forth). ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Built-in spam filtering?
Jim Frost ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) had this to say on 01/02/03 at 19:07: Of course I did. It has about a 90% success rate and more than a 1% false positive rate and requires me to diligently keep up the rule base. Now, 90% success would be great, but 1% false is a killer. That means I'll see like five or ten falses a day, which means I'll be constantly going through the filtered mail, which defeats the purpose. I use the latest 2.43 version, and I get much better than 90%, and can't recall the last time I had a false positive. Perhaps your experiences were with earlier versions? Probably 99% of Evolution's users don't run their own servers and would I think that's an overstatement, altho I will agree to a large majority. -- PGP Fingerprint: 0AA8 DC47 CB63 AE3F C739 6BF9 9AB4 1EF6 5AA5 BCDF Member, LEAF Project http://leaf.sourceforge.netAIM: MikeLeone Public Key - http://www.mike-leone.com/~turgon/turgon-public-key.asc Registered Linux user# 201348 msg12315/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Re: [Evolution] Built-in spam filtering?
On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 17:42, Not Zed wrote: Its been suggested before ... You could just use an external app, and link it in the same way the spamassasin stuff is normally linked in. I still think doing it at the server end is the way to go though, otherwise you have to waste time downloading the message anyway. Two points: 1) Setting up an external program is, at best, a PITA. It's also a LOT slower and managing the databases is very difficult when the mail store is not local. Still, I'll look into this when I have the time because it's better than what I have now. 2) Do you actually control all of the mail servers you connect to? I don't. One of them is controlled by a group that seems to think our best move for the future is to switch to Exchange. Their previuos spam filtering system was to delete every bit of mail that matched certain substrings without bothering to tell any of us what those substrings were or to notify us that they deleted it. Clearly not going to be real helpful in putting a good spam filter up. jim ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Problem with clickable links.
Hi Guenther
Yep, mozilla is in my path, in /usr/bin/mozilla. Even stranger is that
I tried sending myself an e-mail thru K-mail with a link and guess what,
the link was clickable. I keep going back to something in the Evolution
configuration. Sure which I could figure out what. Thanks for the
help. I figure RedHat will upgrade to 8.1, so the upgrade might fix it.
I am just amazed that Ximian doesn't have an answer to this. Or maybe I
should try installing all versions of Mozilla from 1.0 on. Oh well.
Jim
On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 07:41, guenther wrote:
cheers();
I tried it and it did nothing. No errors. Here is what I tried
[Jim@localhost Jim]$ gnome-moz-remote http://www.ximian.com
[Jim@localhost Jim]$ gnome-moz-remote
[Jim@localhost Jim]$ su - root
Password:
[root@localhost root]# gnome-moz-remote http://www.ximian.com
[root@localhost root]# which gnome-moz-remote
/usr/bin/gnome-moz-remote
[root@localhost root]# gnome-moz-remote --version
Gnome gnome-moz-remote 1.4.1.2
[root@localhost root]#
I even shut down Mozilla, still nothing came up. Very strange. Happened
after I deleted an old version of Mozilla still on my computer. I think
it has something to do with that. But I haven't seen anywhere in
Evolution config files where it names a browser. Stranger still, K-Mail
links are clickable. Thanks for the response.
After deleting the older version, is there still a mozilla in your path?
% which mozilla
If not, create a symlink in /usr/bin/ to the mozilla executable. Works
for me with mozilla .tar.gz installer from mozilla.org -- all that is
missing is the symlink.
...guenther
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(c=*++x); c128 (s+=h); if (!(h=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}
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Re: [Evolution] Problem with clickable links.
Evolution simply uses the command-line that you've configured in your
GNOME 1.4 settings. These settings are stored in ~/.gnome/Gnome in the
URL Handlers section.
Jeff
On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 18:05, Jim Macdonald wrote:
Hi Guenther
Yep, mozilla is in my path, in /usr/bin/mozilla. Even stranger is that
I tried sending myself an e-mail thru K-mail with a link and guess what,
the link was clickable. I keep going back to something in the Evolution
configuration. Sure which I could figure out what. Thanks for the
help. I figure RedHat will upgrade to 8.1, so the upgrade might fix it.
I am just amazed that Ximian doesn't have an answer to this. Or maybe I
should try installing all versions of Mozilla from 1.0 on. Oh well.
Jim
On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 07:41, guenther wrote:
cheers();
I tried it and it did nothing. No errors. Here is what I tried
[Jim@localhost Jim]$ gnome-moz-remote http://www.ximian.com
[Jim@localhost Jim]$ gnome-moz-remote
[Jim@localhost Jim]$ su - root
Password:
[root@localhost root]# gnome-moz-remote http://www.ximian.com
[root@localhost root]# which gnome-moz-remote
/usr/bin/gnome-moz-remote
[root@localhost root]# gnome-moz-remote --version
Gnome gnome-moz-remote 1.4.1.2
[root@localhost root]#
I even shut down Mozilla, still nothing came up. Very strange. Happened
after I deleted an old version of Mozilla still on my computer. I think
it has something to do with that. But I haven't seen anywhere in
Evolution config files where it names a browser. Stranger still, K-Mail
links are clickable. Thanks for the response.
After deleting the older version, is there still a mozilla in your path?
% which mozilla
If not, create a symlink in /usr/bin/ to the mozilla executable. Works
for me with mozilla .tar.gz installer from mozilla.org -- all that is
missing is the symlink.
...guenther
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Re: [Evolution] Built-in spam filtering?
cheers();
Its been suggested before ...
You could just use an external app, and link it in the same way the
spamassasin stuff is normally linked in.
I still think doing it at the server end is the way to go though,
otherwise you have to waste time downloading the message anyway.
Two points:
1) Setting up an external program is, at best, a PITA. It's also a LOT
slower and managing the databases is very difficult when the mail store
is not local. Still, I'll look into this when I have the time because
it's better than what I have now.
2) Do you actually control all of the mail servers you connect to? I
don't. One of them is controlled by a group that seems to think our
best move for the future is to switch to Exchange. Their previuos spam
filtering system was to delete every bit of mail that matched certain
substrings without bothering to tell any of us what those substrings
were or to notify us that they deleted it. Clearly not going to be real
helpful in putting a good spam filter up.
If you don't control the server, get your own. ;)
Not joking. I know, you mentioned spamassassin, but have you really
considered it? fetchmail, procmail and spamassassin are really powerful.
And you never have to wait for new mail to get sucked from the POP3
server.
Setting up an IMAP server on my local machine was only about an rpm
install on my Mandrake 9.0 system here. (That is, 400 km away from here,
cause I'm still with my family for holiday... ;)
For me, it is the perfect solution. Maybe it can be useful for you, too.
(spamassassin has AFAIK even some server based spam detection, not only
their rules based.)
...guenther
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Re: [Evolution] Problem with clickable links.
cheers();
Yep, mozilla is in my path, in /usr/bin/mozilla. Even stranger is that
I tried sending myself an e-mail thru K-mail with a link and guess what,
the link was clickable. I keep going back to something in the Evolution
configuration. Sure which I could figure out what. Thanks for the
help. I figure RedHat will upgrade to 8.1, so the upgrade might fix it.
I am just amazed that Ximian doesn't have an answer to this. Or maybe I
should try installing all versions of Mozilla from 1.0 on. Oh well.
Post your ~/.gnome/Gnome file, please. Thats where the program to call
is stored.
You definitely don't need to install all versions. Since you deleted an
RPM version after installing mozilla from mozilla.org, you would never
have to do more than installing this again. Maybe deleting the RPM took
something with it...
...guenther
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(c=*++x); c128 (s+=h); if (!(h=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}
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Re: [Evolution] Built-in spam filtering?
On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 18:13, guenther wrote: If you don't control the server, get your own. ;) I do have my own for personal use. Cannot have my own for corporate use, don't have the choice. I know, you mentioned spamassassin, but have you really considered it? Of course I did. It has about a 90% success rate and more than a 1% false positive rate and requires me to diligently keep up the rule base. Now, 90% success would be great, but 1% false is a killer. That means I'll see like five or ten falses a day, which means I'll be constantly going through the filtered mail, which defeats the purpose. Statistical techniques are exceeding 99% accuracy with false positives of 0.1% or less, and maintenance is a matter of stuffing new spam into the database. I want statistical, thanks. And you never have to wait for new mail to get sucked from the POP3 server. What pop3 server? Everything I use is imap, which is one reason that it's hard to use a lot of the existing bayesian tools. Setting up an IMAP server on my local machine was only about an rpm install on my Mandrake 9.0 system here. (That is, 400 km away from here, cause I'm still with my family for holiday... ;) For me, it is the perfect solution. Maybe it can be useful for you, too. I have been running my own imap server since 1997. Started with Cyrus (which was great), then UW imapd since Cyrus didn't coexist well with Red Hat 6 (UW imapd sucks sucks sucks and yet is the standard on Linux systems) and these days I'm running courier imap on BSD (which is really great). So, running my own server does work with personal mail although, as I said, it's not a straightforward drop-in to put in most of the server based filters. Finding the time to figure out what I need to do has been problematic. And, even with that done, I still have to deal with the corporate spam residing on servers I do not and cannot control. Probably 99% of Evolution's users don't run their own servers and would benefit from this kind of thing even if you personally don't, and a hell of a lot of people would prefer not to be screwing around with procmail just to get rid of spam. (spamassassin has AFAIK even some server based spam detection, not only their rules based.) Yea, it does, but that's like using a nuke to kill rodents. jim ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
