RE: Outlook driving my users crazy

[Aguet, Pierre]

Is that happen the same way on different clients (computers) or only on one?

I've seen that before, it was solved by our help desk by re installing the
common ghost version

-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 3:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook driving my users crazy


Yeah, but there is no filter. Plus all the messages are displayed as soon as
they are sorted

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Beeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 1:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook driving my users crazy


It almost sounds like you have a filter on the view.  Check in View,
Customize Current View and check if the Filters say off.  If they don't,
then this will restrict what you see.

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Groupwise Connector for Exchange 5.5

[mike . dews]

We have been trying to figure out how to get the GWISE connector to work
with exchange.  We understand that it is IPX based but we tried to by-pass
it by installing the Netware client onto Exchange so it logs into both the
NT and Novell domains.  Anyway the docs that come with the connector are
pretty vague.  If anyone out there has successfully gotten GWISE to work
with exchange please let me know how!!!  Thanks!!!

Mike

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RE: Unlimited Quotas

[James Liddil]

> And the whole idea is that as a support shop, your job is to 
> support. Has management told you to put limits? When the 
> email or file system was presented to them, did you say that 
> there were going to be limits.

No.  But I had no idea things would get the way they have.  I do have mailbox
management set to delete mail from the "deleted items" every seven days.
Looking at the recent run shows a few users who had over 10 megs of stuff in
there.  So users need more training.  Easier said than done.  So I had a
discussion with the CFO about this.  His analogy is that never emptying the
trash is like letting junk mail build up on your table until it breaks.  Do
people do this?  And if they want to then the decision will be made to not
spend the money on raises but on more computer hardware/software.


> 
> Your job is to keep people from doing really stupid (not what 
> you think is stupid, I mean really stupid) things that impact 
> IT and then to respond to, or be proactive in creating 
> solutions to business problems. You have presented no cases 
> that justify any limits. You've actually presented some 
> pretty good cases for not having limits. Your company is 
> small, probably to get away from the large staffs and stay 
> innovative. This means that you really shouldn't be stifling 
> innovation, don't get in people's way, HELP them do their 
> job. If you see something that they are doing and there is a 
> better way, help them learn a better way. If they need to 
> store 2 GB in the mail server, let them. If they are keeping 
> a backup of their disk, then advise them that there are 
> better ways, but more importantly, make those better ways 
> available and very easy for them to use.

In a perfect world.  I only wish I had the time, resources and energy to do
what you say.  You are right that we want to stay innovative, but let me tell
you that there is as much stagnation as in a big company.  I am a scientist
(pharmacologist) by training and spent many years doing drug development
research.  Now I am a computer geek and I understand the importance of
computers as a tool for doing research.  I have been on both sides and still
am.  But computers like any scientific instrument require a certain amount of
maintenance etc.  Too often users feel computers are not like other tools and
need no maintenance/tuning.  As much as I try to make a case to management to
pay for more training, tools etc. they decide to spend money on other things,
even though we are a bioinformatics driven business.  So I have to do things
that help me maintain my sanity/life.  Sure I can tell management that "I
told you so" when things break but all they want to hear is how soon will it
be fixed.  So maybe I am just whining, and should just get over it.  So the
bottom line is it is OK to use exchange as a database and not worry about it.

Jim

> 
> -Original Message-
> From: James Liddil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Posted At: Friday, July 05, 2002 4:43 PM
> Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
> Conversation: Unlimited Quotas
> Subject: RE: Unlimited Quotas
> 
> 
> I agree as long as there is money to support it.  But keep in 
> mind that having a large IS means that there is that much 
> more stuff for lawyers or the FDA (we do drug development) to 
> go after.  And if you are going to have an unlimited store it 
> ahs to be managed.  Those tools are not free.  I man IT shop 
> and unless I get an open ended budget I have to make some 
> decisions.  My request for journal/archive software is going 
> unanswered.  So all I can do is tell management that both 
> myself and our legal counsel made suggestions. Then I just do 
> my job.  And I imagine some of this is due to the fact I come 
> from having used a VAX account that had pretty strict limits 
> (I still use it. Either you managed it or it would lock you 
> out.  I know times have changed.
> 
> Jim
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Woodrick, Ed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 2:32 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Unlimited Quotas
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Why do you pretend to be arrogant enough to be able to dictate the 
> > needs of others? You don't seem to have any business drivers to 
> > justify your actions. And who is to say that getting 
> additional disk 
> > drives for the user email storage isn't out of the question?
> > 
> > And as to storage, it has nothing to do with processor and RAM.
> > 
> > And most importantly, just because you don't restrict the users 
> > storage, doesn't mean that you will run out of space. That's 
> > absolutely hogwash, a justification of why many IT shops get such a 
> > bad reputation. Your job is to SUPPORT your users, not be a 
> dictator. 
> > In the whole scheme of things, a few thousand dollars for some disk 
> > space and maybe an upgrade in Exchange editions is petty cash.
> > 
> > 
> > The BUSINESS driver should not be an IT limit. Exchange
> > really is able to s

RE: Unlimited Quotas

[King, Arron S.]

With the "dumpster", recovery isn't usually a big deal, until users call after a file 
has been deleted for "weeks" (and it has passed out of the dumpster).In my 
organization the expectation was that it was "on tape".  I don't have the 
person-hours, disk space or spare servers to do that kind of recovery.  

My management has been presented repeatedly with those types of options; but balk at 
the cost (particularly when our file servers have a working backup system and tape 
rotation system that already provides the type of retention that my user community 
seems to want).  So in my environment, I find it better to educate & set expectations 
up-front.  This helps provide the services that my community needs, and keep costs 
down as well - which is something I get hammered with all the time.  This is a 
business need too!

What everyone is saying about supporting business needs is fine and true; however 
sometimes the business doesn't have the money to pay for every "option"...

Just my 2 cents.

Flames offline please...


Arron


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Ohio Dominican University

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-Original Message-
From: Woodrick, Ed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 10:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Unlimited Quotas


Why is recovery so difficult?

If you've got the dumpster turned on, then recovery is something the
user can do without fairly easily. Never a need for brick backup.


-Original Message-
From: King, Arron S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, July 05, 2002 9:33 AM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: Unlimited Quotas
Subject: RE: Unlimited Quotas


One I have used with some success is the use of Exchange as a file
server.  The larger their quota is, the more "important" things tend to
wind up there.  If they start using it as a file server, and want
something restored they are hosed.  (unless you are doing a
brick-level backup, or can take the time/find the space
to restore the entire store...)

Good Luck!


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Front-End DC

[Richard Serafin]

All, 
  I have read and heard some conflicting information (surprise).  We are
having a problem with our Exchange servers contacting our DCs.  All of
the servers are on the same LAN connected using 3com switches, we are
using VLANs, but again all servers are on the same VLAN.  We get
numerous messages in the event logs that state the DC or the GC could
not be contacted, but I can reach them through other network services,
it seems only the exchange services can't.

  The real question is whether or not I should make one of our front-end
(OWA) exchange servers a DC?  Is there any harm in doing this?  I have
read white papers that say you should have at least one Exchange-DC and
others that say never make an Exchange server a DC.

  Any ideas or experience with Exchange/DC hybrids?

rick

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Calendars

[Reed OBrien]

Here: Exchange / Outlook 2K
Problem:  I have a 'Public' Company calendar.  Everyone can see it.  I want it to 
update everyone's private calendar, but not vice versa.
Can anyone help me get this done?
Please...
TIA


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RE: Front-End DC

[Tom Meunier]

I've never seen a white paper that says either.  For ease of disaster
recovery, I'd leave them separate if you have the hardware.  You'll want
to fix your problem, rather than sweeping it under a rug.  In ESM, in
the properties pages of your server, Directory Access tab, are all the
servers correct?  Use DSADIAG to find out what controllers are
available; that'll help you troubleshoot.  It'll be worth your while to
actually find out what's going on and fix it.

-Original Message-
From: Richard Serafin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Monday, July 08, 2002 8:02 AM
Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
Conversation: Front-End DC
Subject: Front-End DC


All, 
  I have read and heard some conflicting information (surprise).  We are
having a problem with our Exchange servers contacting our DCs.  All of
the servers are on the same LAN connected using 3com switches, we are
using VLANs, but again all servers are on the same VLAN.  We get
numerous messages in the event logs that state the DC or the GC could
not be contacted, but I can reach them through other network services,
it seems only the exchange services can't.

  The real question is whether or not I should make one of our front-end
(OWA) exchange servers a DC?  Is there any harm in doing this?  I have
read white papers that say you should have at least one Exchange-DC and
others that say never make an Exchange server a DC.

  Any ideas or experience with Exchange/DC hybrids?

rick

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RE: Unlimited Quotas

[bscott]

On Fri, 5 Jul 2002, at 10:47pm, Woodrick, Ed wrote:
> And as to disk drives, I can speak pretty knowledgeably in this situation,
> there is virtually no storage limitations within Exchange that impacts the
> per user storage.

  Yah, and what about when you run out of physical disk space, or tape
space, or backup time?  "Buy more/better equipment", you say, but have you
ever worked in small company environment, where investing money in IT can
sometimes require something close to an act of Congress?

> And as to users keeping things forever, that's pretty much hogwash.

  You don't have our customers, then.  We've got several people in several
different organizations that have over one *gigabyte* of saved mail data.  
And we are by no means a large company.

> That means that even something as small as a TB requires well over 1,000
> users.

  The fact that your regard one terabyte as "small" indicates that you don't
really understand the small business situation, where we often have to beg
and plead with the customer to buy a 20 GB tape backup drive.

  Quote policy is something that should be done on a case-by-case basis.  
Blanket statements about what is applicable are bogus.  However, not having
any policy at all is almost sure to cause headaches down the road.

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KLEZ or Sleaze

[Orin Rehorst]

Getting KLEZ-like emails. The From is spoofed employee address. Subject is
"Mortgage Rates Have Never Been Lower." Email body is legitimate-looking ad.


Is this KLEZ or an incredibly underhanded advertiser?

TIA,

Regards,
Orin

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TOPAS web site: http://www.homestead.com/topas/topas.html> >


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Notes connector

[Darren Sykes]

This probably sounds a daft question, but its part of a much larger
problem that I'd confuse myself attempting to explain!
The Notes connector in e2k creates a mailbox used to deliver mail to
before being processed by the connector. Mail is sent to the connector
mailbox using SMTP. Could anyone tell me where in the AD the SMTP
Addresses for this mailbox are stored? It doesn't appear to be on the
connector object itself in the config naming context.
Any help would be much appreciated!!

Thanks,

Darren.


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RE: KLEZ or Sleaze

[Etts, Russell]

Interesting

I've been seeing the same thing.

Thanks

Russell

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 10:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: KLEZ or Sleaze


Getting KLEZ-like emails. The From is spoofed employee address. Subject is
"Mortgage Rates Have Never Been Lower." Email body is legitimate-looking ad.


Is this KLEZ or an incredibly underhanded advertiser?

TIA,

Regards,
Orin

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(Largest U.S. port in foreign tonnage)
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Fax:  (713)670-2457
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Calendar issue

[Pillai, Raj]

Good day All,

Exchange 2000 SP2/OLXP;

Cannot see another user's calendar(no information/no free/busy information
could be retrieved), looks like a permissions issue.A meeting can be
scheduled with the user though.
Any ideas on where to start looking to correct this problem. 

TIA

Raj

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RE: KLEZ or Sleaze

[East, Bill]

Probably a sleazy spammer (sorry, that's redundant). It's quite common to
forge the from address.

If your antivirus isn't going off you can know for sure.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Orin Rehorst [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 10:14 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: KLEZ or Sleaze
> 
> 
> Getting KLEZ-like emails. The From is spoofed employee 
> address. Subject is
> "Mortgage Rates Have Never Been Lower." Email body is 
> legitimate-looking ad.
> 
> 
> Is this KLEZ or an incredibly underhanded advertiser?
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Regards,
> Orin
> 
> Orin Rehorst
> Port of Houston Authority
> (Largest U.S. port in foreign tonnage)
> e-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
> Phone:  (713)670-2443
> Fax:  (713)670-2457
> TOPAS web site:   >
> 
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New Virus?

[Erik Vesneski]

Hi,

There is a new virus supposedly in the wild:

Attachment:
LILAC-WHAT-A-WONDERFULNAME.avi.exe

Anyone seen it yet?


Thanks,
Erik L. Vesneski
www.epicentric.com


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RE: New Virus?

[Kevin Miller]

Nope. I block both those extensions. 

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Subject: New Virus?


Hi,

There is a new virus supposedly in the wild:

Attachment:
LILAC-WHAT-A-WONDERFULNAME.avi.exe

Anyone seen it yet?


Thanks,
Erik L. Vesneski
www.epicentric.com


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RE: New Virus?

[Erik Vesneski]

Hi,

Rightfully so.  I wanted to verify if others can deem it 'wild' since that
is the report I have received.

Erik L. Vesneski
www.epicentric.com


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 7:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New Virus?


Nope. I block both those extensions. 

--Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Erik Vesneski
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 7:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: New Virus?


Hi,

There is a new virus supposedly in the wild:

Attachment:
LILAC-WHAT-A-WONDERFULNAME.avi.exe

Anyone seen it yet?


Thanks,
Erik L. Vesneski
www.epicentric.com


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RE: Front-End DC

[Etts, Russell]

Hi there

If the Front End server is in same site, make sure that it is in the same
subnet.  If it FE server is not in the same subnet,  then you need to
specify the subnet in sites and services.

HTH

Russell



-Original Message-
From: Richard Serafin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 9:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Front-End DC


All, 
  I have read and heard some conflicting information (surprise).  We are
having a problem with our Exchange servers contacting our DCs.  All of
the servers are on the same LAN connected using 3com switches, we are
using VLANs, but again all servers are on the same VLAN.  We get
numerous messages in the event logs that state the DC or the GC could
not be contacted, but I can reach them through other network services,
it seems only the exchange services can't.

  The real question is whether or not I should make one of our front-end
(OWA) exchange servers a DC?  Is there any harm in doing this?  I have
read white papers that say you should have at least one Exchange-DC and
others that say never make an Exchange server a DC.

  Any ideas or experience with Exchange/DC hybrids?

rick

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RE: KLEZ or Sleaze

[Joe Pochedley]

We've gotten a couple of these as well...  Looks like it comes from another
user at your own org...  Pretty neat trick, confused a couple people here,
but it's just another underhanded spammer...   Grab the originating IP
address off the header and head to www.dnsstuff.com and pop it into their
spam database lookup to see how many of the spam and blackhole lists have
the server in their database.

Joe Pochedley
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cartoonist Scott Adams once said. 
"I especially like the whooshing 
sound they make as they fly by."




-Original Message-
From: Orin Rehorst [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 10:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: KLEZ or Sleaze


Getting KLEZ-like emails. The From is spoofed employee address. Subject is
"Mortgage Rates Have Never Been Lower." Email body is legitimate-looking ad.


Is this KLEZ or an incredibly underhanded advertiser?

TIA,

Regards,
Orin

Orin Rehorst
Port of Houston Authority
(Largest U.S. port in foreign tonnage)
e-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
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RE: New Virus?

[Martin Blackstone]

Trend has it covered

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Hi,

Rightfully so.  I wanted to verify if others can deem it 'wild' since that
is the report I have received.

Erik L. Vesneski
www.epicentric.com


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Subject: RE: New Virus?


Nope. I block both those extensions. 

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Hi,

There is a new virus supposedly in the wild:

Attachment:
LILAC-WHAT-A-WONDERFULNAME.avi.exe

Anyone seen it yet?


Thanks,
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RE: New Virus?

[Dale Geoffrey Edwards]

Sybari has it covered also.

Geoff...


-Original Message-
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To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New Virus?


Trend has it covered

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Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 7:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New Virus?


Hi,

Rightfully so.  I wanted to verify if others can deem it 'wild' since that
is the report I have received.

Erik L. Vesneski
www.epicentric.com


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To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New Virus?


Nope. I block both those extensions. 

--Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond http://www.daughtry.ca/
For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!


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Hi,

There is a new virus supposedly in the wild:

Attachment:
LILAC-WHAT-A-WONDERFULNAME.avi.exe

Anyone seen it yet?


Thanks,
Erik L. Vesneski
www.epicentric.com


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RE: New Virus?

[Kevin Miller]

I love not caring what comes out. Just knowing that I am covered.

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Trend has it covered

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Hi,

Rightfully so.  I wanted to verify if others can deem it 'wild' since
that is the report I have received.

Erik L. Vesneski
www.epicentric.com


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Subject: RE: New Virus?


Nope. I block both those extensions. 

--Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
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Hi,

There is a new virus supposedly in the wild:

Attachment:
LILAC-WHAT-A-WONDERFULNAME.avi.exe

Anyone seen it yet?


Thanks,
Erik L. Vesneski
www.epicentric.com


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RE: New Virus?

[Bowles, John L.]

Man, you're serious?  You block those extensions?  Man you're good
dewd!!

___
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Nope. I block both those extensions. 

--Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
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Hi,

There is a new virus supposedly in the wild:

Attachment:
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Anyone seen it yet?


Thanks,
Erik L. Vesneski
www.epicentric.com


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RE: New Virus?

[Martin Blackstone]

Mmmm hm

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I love not caring what comes out. Just knowing that I am covered.

--Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond http://www.daughtry.ca/
For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 8:00 AM
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Trend has it covered

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From: Erik Vesneski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 7:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New Virus?


Hi,

Rightfully so.  I wanted to verify if others can deem it 'wild' since that
is the report I have received.

Erik L. Vesneski
www.epicentric.com


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 7:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New Virus?


Nope. I block both those extensions. 

--Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond http://www.daughtry.ca/
For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!


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Hi,

There is a new virus supposedly in the wild:

Attachment:
LILAC-WHAT-A-WONDERFULNAME.avi.exe

Anyone seen it yet?


Thanks,
Erik L. Vesneski
www.epicentric.com


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RE: New Virus?

[Kevin Miller]

I block everything but zip, pictures, and office docs. 

--Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
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Man, you're serious?  You block those extensions?  Man you're good
dewd!!

___
John Bowles
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Celera Genomics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
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To: Exchange Discussions
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Nope. I block both those extensions. 

--Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
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Hi,

There is a new virus supposedly in the wild:

Attachment:
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Anyone seen it yet?


Thanks,
Erik L. Vesneski
www.epicentric.com


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RE: New Virus?

[Tom Meunier]

You don't?  And you guys have the genome thingy?  You're scaring me...

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> 
> 
> Man, you're serious?  You block those extensions?  Man you're 
> good dewd!!
> 
> ___
> John Bowles
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> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: RE: New Virus?
> 
> 
> Nope. I block both those extensions. 
> 
> --Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond 
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Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 7:49 AM
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Subject: New Virus?


Hi,

There is a new virus supposedly in the wild:

Attachment:
LILAC-WHAT-A-WONDERFULNAME.avi.exe

Anyone seen it yet?


Thanks,
Erik L. Vesneski
www.epicentric.com

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RE: New Virus?

[Bowles, John L.]

Yes, I do.  I was just joking with Kevin.  But I guess he didn't see
that.

___
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You don't?  And you guys have the genome thingy?  You're scaring me...

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> Posted At: Monday, July 08, 2002 10:08 AM
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> Subject: RE: New Virus?
> 
> 
> Man, you're serious?  You block those extensions?  Man you're
> good dewd!!
> 
> ___
> John Bowles
> Exchange Administrator
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: New Virus?
> 
> 
> Nope. I block both those extensions.
> 
> --Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Erik Vesneski
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Subject: New Virus?


Hi,

There is a new virus supposedly in the wild:

Attachment:
LILAC-WHAT-A-WONDERFULNAME.avi.exe

Anyone seen it yet?


Thanks,
Erik L. Vesneski
www.epicentric.com

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RE: New Virus?

[Martin Blackstone]

Not to blow my own horn...
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxj.htm


OK, I admit it, I am blowing my own horn.

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Man, you're serious?  You block those extensions?  Man you're good dewd!!

___
John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
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Celera Genomics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


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From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 10:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New Virus?


Nope. I block both those extensions. 

--Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond http://www.daughtry.ca/
For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!


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Subject: New Virus?


Hi,

There is a new virus supposedly in the wild:

Attachment:
LILAC-WHAT-A-WONDERFULNAME.avi.exe

Anyone seen it yet?


Thanks,
Erik L. Vesneski
www.epicentric.com


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RE: New Virus?

[Bob Sadler]

And I use Martin's list to block...blow Martin Blow...It's a good horn
to blow



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-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
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Not to blow my own horn...
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxj.htm


OK, I admit it, I am blowing my own horn.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 8:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New Virus?


Man, you're serious?  You block those extensions?  Man you're good
dewd!!

___
John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support & Engineering
Celera Genomics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 10:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New Virus?


Nope. I block both those extensions. 

--Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
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Hi,

There is a new virus supposedly in the wild:

Attachment:
LILAC-WHAT-A-WONDERFULNAME.avi.exe

Anyone seen it yet?


Thanks,
Erik L. Vesneski
www.epicentric.com


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RE: New Virus?

[Kevin Miller]

The genome thingie?? Hahahaha.. They are running mixed mode 5.5 and 2k..
They have a cluster fusk for email 

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Subject: RE: New Virus?


You don't?  And you guys have the genome thingy?  You're scaring me...

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> 
> Man, you're serious?  You block those extensions?  Man you're
> good dewd!!
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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> 
> 
> Nope. I block both those extensions.
> 
> --Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
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Subject: New Virus?


Hi,

There is a new virus supposedly in the wild:

Attachment:
LILAC-WHAT-A-WONDERFULNAME.avi.exe

Anyone seen it yet?


Thanks,
Erik L. Vesneski
www.epicentric.com

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RE: New Virus?

[Les Bessant]

That's what I always say.[1]

Having said that, we did have an instance of
http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
which, rather than sending itself to the address indicated by our MX records
(which all point at Messagelabs), came straight to our gateway (which has no
public DNS records pointing to it). It was caught by our internal AV
software, but it had us worried for a while. We have since tightened up the
gateway[2] so that *only* Messagelabs can connect on port 25, so that
particular problem shouldn't recur. 

Interesting behaviour from the virus, though. My guess is that it looks into
message headers on the infected machine for originating IP addresses to send
itself to rather than using DNS, but if anyone has any other explanations,
I'd be interested in hearing them...


[1] http://www.messagelabs.com
[2] Please insert standard remarks concerning stable doors, horses, etc.[3]
[3] And throw in a "mutter" or two for good measure

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Sent: 08 July 2002 16:06
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Subject: RE: New Virus?


I love not caring what comes out. Just knowing that I am covered.

--Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
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RE: New Virus?

[Les Bessant]

So we just have to send your users nasties in zip files? 

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Sent: 08 July 2002 16:11
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I block everything but zip, pictures, and office docs. 

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Man, you're serious?  You block those extensions?  Man you're good
dewd!!

___
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From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 10:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New Virus?


Nope. I block both those extensions. 

--Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!


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Subject: New Virus?


Hi,

There is a new virus supposedly in the wild:

Attachment:
LILAC-WHAT-A-WONDERFULNAME.avi.exe

Anyone seen it yet?


Thanks,
Erik L. Vesneski
www.epicentric.com


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RE: New Virus?

[Les Bessant]

There's no answer to that.

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From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 08 July 2002 16:13
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New Virus?


Not to blow my own horn...
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxj.htm


OK, I admit it, I am blowing my own horn.

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Man, you're serious?  You block those extensions?  Man you're good dewd!!

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Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 10:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New Virus?


Nope. I block both those extensions. 

--Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond http://www.daughtry.ca/
For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!


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Subject: New Virus?


Hi,

There is a new virus supposedly in the wild:

Attachment:
LILAC-WHAT-A-WONDERFULNAME.avi.exe

Anyone seen it yet?


Thanks,
Erik L. Vesneski
www.epicentric.com


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RE: New Virus?

[Couch, Nate]

Ditto. Who cares if a user wants to get an AVI file from home.  I say kill
em all.

> --
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> 
> I love not caring what comes out. Just knowing that I am covered.
> 
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> 
> 
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin
> Blackstone
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> Subject: RE: New Virus?
> 
> 
> Trend has it covered
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Erik Vesneski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 7:52 AM
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> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Rightfully so.  I wanted to verify if others can deem it 'wild' since
> that is the report I have received.
> 
> Erik L. Vesneski
> www.epicentric.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 7:51 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: New Virus?
> 
> 
> Nope. I block both those extensions. 
> 
> --Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
> http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Erik Vesneski
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 7:49 AM
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> Subject: New Virus?
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> There is a new virus supposedly in the wild:
> 
> Attachment:
> LILAC-WHAT-A-WONDERFULNAME.avi.exe
> 
> Anyone seen it yet?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Erik L. Vesneski
> www.epicentric.com
> 
> 
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RE: New Virus?

[Martin Blackstone]

Metallica!!

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Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 8:26 AM
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Subject: RE: New Virus?


Ditto. Who cares if a user wants to get an AVI file from home.  I say kill
em all.

> --
> From: Kevin Miller
> Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, July 8, 2002 10:06
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  RE: New Virus?
> 
> I love not caring what comes out. Just knowing that I am covered.
> 
> --Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond 
> http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin 
> Blackstone
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 8:00 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: New Virus?
> 
> 
> Trend has it covered
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Erik Vesneski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 7:52 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: New Virus?
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Rightfully so.  I wanted to verify if others can deem it 'wild' since 
> that is the report I have received.
> 
> Erik L. Vesneski
> www.epicentric.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 7:51 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: New Virus?
> 
> 
> Nope. I block both those extensions.
> 
> --Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond 
> http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Erik Vesneski
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 7:49 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: New Virus?
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> There is a new virus supposedly in the wild:
> 
> Attachment:
> LILAC-WHAT-A-WONDERFULNAME.avi.exe
> 
> Anyone seen it yet?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Erik L. Vesneski
> www.epicentric.com
> 
> 
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RE: New Virus?

[William Lefkovics]

If I could do that, I'd never leave the house.

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Subject: RE: New Virus?


Not to blow my own horn...
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxj.htm


OK, I admit it, I am blowing my own horn.

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From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 8:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New Virus?


Man, you're serious?  You block those extensions?  Man you're good
dewd!!

___
John Bowles
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


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To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New Virus?


Nope. I block both those extensions. 

--Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
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Hi,

There is a new virus supposedly in the wild:

Attachment:
LILAC-WHAT-A-WONDERFULNAME.avi.exe

Anyone seen it yet?


Thanks,
Erik L. Vesneski
www.epicentric.com


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RE: New Virus?

[Bowles, John L.]

I try to blow my horn once if not twice a day.  It makes you feel good.

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Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 11:31 AM
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If I could do that, I'd never leave the house.

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Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 8:13 AM
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Not to blow my own horn...
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxj.htm


OK, I admit it, I am blowing my own horn.

-Original Message-
From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 8:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New Virus?


Man, you're serious?  You block those extensions?  Man you're good
dewd!!

___
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


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From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 10:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New Virus?


Nope. I block both those extensions. 

--Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
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Subject: New Virus?


Hi,

There is a new virus supposedly in the wild:

Attachment:
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Anyone seen it yet?


Thanks,
Erik L. Vesneski
www.epicentric.com


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RE: New Virus?

[Les Bessant]

I was wrong.

There *was* an answer to that

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 08 July 2002 16:31
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New Virus?


If I could do that, I'd never leave the house.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin
Blackstone
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 8:13 AM
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Subject: RE: New Virus?


Not to blow my own horn...
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxj.htm


OK, I admit it, I am blowing my own horn.

-Original Message-
From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 8:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New Virus?


Man, you're serious?  You block those extensions?  Man you're good
dewd!!

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-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 10:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New Virus?


Nope. I block both those extensions. 

--Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Erik Vesneski
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 7:49 AM
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Subject: New Virus?


Hi,

There is a new virus supposedly in the wild:

Attachment:
LILAC-WHAT-A-WONDERFULNAME.avi.exe

Anyone seen it yet?


Thanks,
Erik L. Vesneski
www.epicentric.com


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RE: New Virus?

[East, Bill]

Nuke 'em from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 11:26 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: New Virus?
> 
> 
> Ditto. Who cares if a user wants to get an AVI file from 
> home.  I say kill
> em all.
> 
> > --
> > From:   Kevin Miller
> > Reply To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent:   Monday, July 8, 2002 10:06
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:RE: New Virus?
> > 
> > I love not caring what comes out. Just knowing that I am covered.
> > 
> > --Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
> > http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin
> > Blackstone
> > Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 8:00 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: New Virus?
> > 
> > 
> > Trend has it covered
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Erik Vesneski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 7:52 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: New Virus?
> > 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Rightfully so.  I wanted to verify if others can deem it 
> 'wild' since
> > that is the report I have received.
> > 
> > Erik L. Vesneski
> > www.epicentric.com
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 7:51 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: New Virus?
> > 
> > 
> > Nope. I block both those extensions. 
> > 
> > --Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
> > http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
> Erik Vesneski
> > Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 7:49 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: New Virus?
> > 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > There is a new virus supposedly in the wild:
> > 
> > Attachment:
> > LILAC-WHAT-A-WONDERFULNAME.avi.exe
> > 
> > Anyone seen it yet?
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Erik L. Vesneski
> > www.epicentric.com
> > 
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RE: New Virus?

[HANNA, Keith (TSL Shirley)]

course there is - lucky guy 

-Original Message-
From: Les Bessant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 July 2002 16:19
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New Virus?


There's no answer to that.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 08 July 2002 16:13
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New Virus?


Not to blow my own horn...
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxj.htm


OK, I admit it, I am blowing my own horn.

-Original Message-
From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 8:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New Virus?


Man, you're serious?  You block those extensions?  Man you're good dewd!!

___
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Exchange Administrator
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Celera Genomics
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-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 10:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New Virus?


Nope. I block both those extensions. 

--Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond http://www.daughtry.ca/
For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!


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Subject: New Virus?


Hi,

There is a new virus supposedly in the wild:

Attachment:
LILAC-WHAT-A-WONDERFULNAME.avi.exe

Anyone seen it yet?


Thanks,
Erik L. Vesneski
www.epicentric.com


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RE: KLEZ or Sleaze

[John Strongosky]

What I've seen is they are not using the helo/ehelo part of
sendmail.this is what im getting in my sendmail
logs"authentication-warning:  [203.42.219.114] didn't use helo protocol"

john

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Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 7:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: KLEZ or Sleaze


Getting KLEZ-like emails. The From is spoofed employee address. Subject is
"Mortgage Rates Have Never Been Lower." Email body is legitimate-looking ad.


Is this KLEZ or an incredibly underhanded advertiser?

TIA,

Regards,
Orin

Orin Rehorst
Port of Houston Authority
(Largest U.S. port in foreign tonnage)
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RE: New Virus?

[Les Bessant]

LOL!

-Original Message-
From: HANNA, Keith (TSL Shirley) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 08 July 2002 16:38
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New Virus?


course there is - lucky guy 

-Original Message-
From: Les Bessant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 July 2002 16:19
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New Virus?


There's no answer to that.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 08 July 2002 16:13
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New Virus?


Not to blow my own horn...
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxj.htm


OK, I admit it, I am blowing my own horn.

-Original Message-
From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 8:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New Virus?


Man, you're serious?  You block those extensions?  Man you're good dewd!!

___
John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support & Engineering
Celera Genomics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 10:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New Virus?


Nope. I block both those extensions. 

--Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond http://www.daughtry.ca/
For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Erik Vesneski
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 7:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: New Virus?


Hi,

There is a new virus supposedly in the wild:

Attachment:
LILAC-WHAT-A-WONDERFULNAME.avi.exe

Anyone seen it yet?


Thanks,
Erik L. Vesneski
www.epicentric.com


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Public folder permission

[MS Exchange Discussions]

A resource calendar was created and permission was assigned to a group.
But it didn't propagate correctly as a result of deleting the
Distribution List and creating a new Security Group with the same name
or shortly after.  

I deleted that group over the weekend, waited about 20 minutes and then
recreated it...  Permission now do appears to pass in the public
folder... However, I get NT Users: ## account in those public folders
client permission tab.  Furthermore, I am unable to modify the folder
from neither OL nor ESM.  I get 80040102 with ESM and Modified permisson
cannot be saved in OL...

Q31 appears to be pointing me towards the right direction, but we
didn't modify any ExIFS...  The only permission modification we did was
either via OL or ESM.  Anyone else with a better solution?  Suggestion?


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RE: Unlimited Quotas

[Woodrick, Ed]

That's absolutely correct. If business is presented with the situation,
then they get to make the decision. If they don't think that it's worth
the cost, then that, as many other things just don't get done.



-Original Message-
From: King, Arron S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Monday, July 08, 2002 8:59 AM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: Unlimited Quotas
Subject: RE: Unlimited Quotas


With the "dumpster", recovery isn't usually a big deal, until users call
after a file has been deleted for "weeks" (and it has passed out of the
dumpster).In my organization the expectation was that it was "on
tape".  I don't have the person-hours, disk space or spare servers to do
that kind of recovery.  

My management has been presented repeatedly with those types of options;
but balk at the cost (particularly when our file servers have a working
backup system and tape rotation system that already provides the type of
retention that my user community seems to want).  So in my environment,
I find it better to educate & set expectations up-front.  This helps
provide the services that my community needs, and keep costs down as
well - which is something I get hammered with all the time.  This is a
business need too!

What everyone is saying about supporting business needs is fine and
true; however sometimes the business doesn't have the money to pay for
every "option"...

Just my 2 cents.

Flames offline please...


Arron


===
Arron S. King
Network & Systems Administrator
Ohio Dominican University

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: Unlimited Quotas

[Woodrick, Ed]

-Original Message-
From: James Liddil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Monday, July 08, 2002 8:27 AM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: Unlimited Quotas
Subject: RE: Unlimited Quotas


> And the whole idea is that as a support shop, your job is to
> support. Has management told you to put limits? When the 
> email or file system was presented to them, did you say that 
> there were going to be limits.

No.  But I had no idea things would get the way they have.  I do have
mailbox management set to delete mail from the "deleted items" every
seven days. Looking at the recent run shows a few users who had over 10
megs of stuff in there.  So users need more training.  Easier said than
done.  So I had a discussion with the CFO about this.  His analogy is
that never emptying the trash is like letting junk mail build up on your
table until it breaks.  Do people do this?  And if they want to then the
decision will be made to not spend the money on raises but on more
computer hardware/software.

_

10MB of information in the deleted items really isn't a big deal. Some
people don't empty their trash cans on purpose, others think that it's
automatically deleted. It's a user education thing. I know that I was
recently working on a report and would throw old copies of the document
in the real trashcan. Folks knew not to empty my trashcan until the
report was handed in. I was using the trash can as a temporary archive.

And while he's the CFO, he is mistaken with his analogy. A trashcan is a
trashcan, it's not the Inbox. And yes, there are people who will let
their desktop fill up with junk mail.



> 
> Your job is to keep people from doing really stupid (not what
> you think is stupid, I mean really stupid) things that impact 
> IT and then to respond to, or be proactive in creating 
> solutions to business problems. You have presented no cases 
> that justify any limits. You've actually presented some 
> pretty good cases for not having limits. Your company is 
> small, probably to get away from the large staffs and stay 
> innovative. This means that you really shouldn't be stifling 
> innovation, don't get in people's way, HELP them do their 
> job. If you see something that they are doing and there is a 
> better way, help them learn a better way. If they need to 
> store 2 GB in the mail server, let them. If they are keeping 
> a backup of their disk, then advise them that there are 
> better ways, but more importantly, make those better ways 
> available and very easy for them to use.

In a perfect world.  I only wish I had the time, resources and energy to
do what you say.  You are right that we want to stay innovative, but let
me tell you that there is as much stagnation as in a big company.  I am
a scientist
(pharmacologist) by training and spent many years doing drug development
research.  Now I am a computer geek and I understand the importance of
computers as a tool for doing research.  I have been on both sides and
still am.  But computers like any scientific instrument require a
certain amount of maintenance etc.  Too often users feel computers are
not like other tools and need no maintenance/tuning.  As much as I try
to make a case to management to pay for more training, tools etc. they
decide to spend money on other things, even though we are a
bioinformatics driven business.  So I have to do things that help me
maintain my sanity/life.  Sure I can tell management that "I told you
so" when things break but all they want to hear is how soon will it be
fixed.  So maybe I am just whining, and should just get over it.  So the
bottom line is it is OK to use exchange as a database and not worry
about it.
__


Yes it's okay to use Exchange/Outlook as a database. That's part of the
positioning from Microsoft. It's part of the knowledge management stuff.
As to not worrying about it, I can't say that. It's always IT's job to
worry about everything. But it doesn't need to be high on the radar
screen. When your storage reaches 75% capacity, it's probably time to
start raising a flag, either more storage or less to store.

The most important part would probably be to make sure that your
organization has a good solid document retention policy. You might scuff
and say that's a lawyer type of thing, but wait and see how much crap
you have to do it you get subpoenaed! You want to make sure that you are
following the rules of the retention policy all along and that you
aren't caught doing an Enron!

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RE: Unlimited Quotas

[Woodrick, Ed]

Yes I've worked in small companies. And I've sold to small companies. I
dare say that I understand the dynamics fairly well.  Disk space, tape
space, and backup time are all simple issues, present them to the purse
strings and let them make the decision.

1GB of saved email? You aren't even in the big leagues here. I'd say
that well over 50% of the users on this list have one ore more mailboxes
with 1GB storage.  Oh, and by the way, how much is that actually taking
up on your server? 1GB? Not with single instance storage! And as I said,
the 90%-10% rule goes to work.

No, my regards of a TB as small doesn't mean that I don't know the small
business environment, it only means that I work with a large range of
customers. But I also know that 1TB isn't that expensive anymore. That's
only seven 160GB drives. I've known many small companies with seven
drive servers. When 4GB drives were common, it wasn't that odd to have
that many drives. 

Yes, I know that you often have to beg and plead with a customer to get
a tape backup. So? That's what I'm saying. The customer (aka "business
drivers") get to make the decisions. Don't assume that they always want
everything. Don't assume that they want nothing. I've seen too many
situations where IT people say that management doesn't want to do
something and then someone puts together a quick business case and it
goes through unhampered. 



But the most important thing here is to make believable and
knowledgeable recommendations to the business drivers. Make sure that
your recommendations are prudent. Understand what levels of spending the
business drivers are making. Know what to recommend and when to
recommend it. It's a big deal making sure that you are forecasting your
needs correctly and getting them into the budget cycle. Make longer
term, comprehensive plans. Do you have your email storage charted out
for the next 5 years? Do you have growth projections and timelines that
new servers or disks will have to come online?



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Monday, July 08, 2002 10:11 AM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: Unlimited Quotas
Subject: RE: Unlimited Quotas


On Fri, 5 Jul 2002, at 10:47pm, Woodrick, Ed wrote:
> And as to disk drives, I can speak pretty knowledgeably in this 
> situation, there is virtually no storage limitations within Exchange 
> that impacts the per user storage.

  Yah, and what about when you run out of physical disk space, or tape
space, or backup time?  "Buy more/better equipment", you say, but have
you ever worked in small company environment, where investing money in
IT can sometimes require something close to an act of Congress?

> And as to users keeping things forever, that's pretty much hogwash.

  You don't have our customers, then.  We've got several people in
several different organizations that have over one *gigabyte* of saved
mail data.  
And we are by no means a large company.

> That means that even something as small as a TB requires well over 
> 1,000 users.

  The fact that your regard one terabyte as "small" indicates that you
don't really understand the small business situation, where we often
have to beg and plead with the customer to buy a 20 GB tape backup
drive.

  Quote policy is something that should be done on a case-by-case basis.

Blanket statements about what is applicable are bogus.  However, not
having any policy at all is almost sure to cause headaches down the
road.

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RE: New Virus?

[Matt Plahtinsky]

Just block *.* and you shouldn't have any problems. Who needs attachments anyways  :)

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 11:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New Virus?


Not to blow my own horn...
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxj.htm


OK, I admit it, I am blowing my own horn.

-Original Message-
From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 8:08 AM
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Subject: RE: New Virus?


Man, you're serious?  You block those extensions?  Man you're good dewd!!

___
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Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support & Engineering
Celera Genomics
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-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 10:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New Virus?


Nope. I block both those extensions. 

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Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 7:49 AM
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Subject: New Virus?


Hi,

There is a new virus supposedly in the wild:

Attachment:
LILAC-WHAT-A-WONDERFULNAME.avi.exe

Anyone seen it yet?


Thanks,
Erik L. Vesneski
www.epicentric.com


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Exchange 2000 with OWA

[Pennell, Ronald B.]

Currently running E2K/Ex.5.5 in mixed mode.  Want to install a front-end
server (e2k) to go along with the OWA for ex5.5
mailboxes.  That way I can test e2k OWA before removing my last ex5.5
server.  OWA for 5.5 can access both 5.5 & e2k 
mailboxes.  E2k OWA can only access E2k mailboxes.  Can they co-exist?  Or,
once I tell the back-end servers the virtual
server name for the front-end will it remove 5.5 OWA access to the
mailboxes?  Has anyone tied the Network Load
Balancing - ie 2 front-end servers with multiple back-ends.?

Ron



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MTA Error in Event Log.

[Kevin Dietz]

An RPC Communications error occured. Unable to bind over RPC. Locality
Table Index; 49. Windows 2000 MTA error code:1753 Comms Error Code. Bind
Error 0. Remote Server Name 

This error is appearing on a new exchange 2000 server. It has the ADC
connector installed as well as a SMTP connector. This service is published
on my ISA server. SMTP messages are not being passed through the ISA
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I have added my Exchange 2K server name to the hosts file on the 2K
server.
Any help on this would be appreciated.

Thanks,

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RE: Exchange 2000 with OWA

[William Lefkovics]

They can certainly coexist.  But as you mentioned, the FrontEnd server
with Exchange2000 will only be able to access the Exchange2000
mailboxes.  The 5.5 OWA is like a MAPI client.  MAPI-by-proxy if you
will.  They can coexist fine.

William

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Pennell,
Ronald B.
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 11:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange 2000 with OWA


Currently running E2K/Ex.5.5 in mixed mode.  Want to install a front-end
server (e2k) to go along with the OWA for ex5.5 mailboxes.  That way I
can test e2k OWA before removing my last ex5.5 server.  OWA for 5.5 can
access both 5.5 & e2k 
mailboxes.  E2k OWA can only access E2k mailboxes.  Can they co-exist?
Or, once I tell the back-end servers the virtual server name for the
front-end will it remove 5.5 OWA access to the mailboxes?  Has anyone
tied the Network Load Balancing - ie 2 front-end servers with multiple
back-ends.?

Ron



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MFC Mapi

[Chris H]

Does anyone have any experience with a tool from MS PSS called MFCMAPI? I am
trying to restore a deleted PF tree.
I do not get an error but no "success" message either . . . anyone ever use?


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RE: MFC Mapi

[Kevin Miller]

If you called PSS to get the util you should be able to call back and
reference the same call to get help.. Or is this another issue?

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Subject: MFC Mapi


Does anyone have any experience with a tool from MS PSS called MFCMAPI?
I am trying to restore a deleted PF tree. I do not get an error but no
"success" message either . . . anyone ever use?


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RE: Exchange 2000 with OWA

[Pennell, Ronald B.]

Thanks for the reply...  

Ron

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 2:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2000 with OWA


They can certainly coexist.  But as you mentioned, the FrontEnd server
with Exchange2000 will only be able to access the Exchange2000
mailboxes.  The 5.5 OWA is like a MAPI client.  MAPI-by-proxy if you
will.  They can coexist fine.

William

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Pennell,
Ronald B.
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 11:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange 2000 with OWA


Currently running E2K/Ex.5.5 in mixed mode.  Want to install a front-end
server (e2k) to go along with the OWA for ex5.5 mailboxes.  That way I
can test e2k OWA before removing my last ex5.5 server.  OWA for 5.5 can
access both 5.5 & e2k 
mailboxes.  E2k OWA can only access E2k mailboxes.  Can they co-exist?
Or, once I tell the back-end servers the virtual server name for the
front-end will it remove 5.5 OWA access to the mailboxes?  Has anyone
tied the Network Load Balancing - ie 2 front-end servers with multiple
back-ends.?

Ron



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RE: MTA Error in Event Log.

[Ed Crowley]

Try adding it to LMHOSTS.  If that fixes the problem, then you know that
you should fix or install WINS.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kevin Dietz
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 11:51 AM
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Subject: MTA Error in Event Log.


An RPC Communications error occured. Unable to bind over RPC. Locality
Table Index; 49. Windows 2000 MTA error code:1753 Comms Error Code. Bind
Error 0. Remote Server Name 

This error is appearing on a new exchange 2000 server. It has the ADC
connector installed as well as a SMTP connector. This service is
published on my ISA server. SMTP messages are not being passed through
the ISA server. I do not know if this is related to the error message.

I have added my Exchange 2K server name to the hosts file on the 2K
server. Any help on this would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Kevin


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RE: Unlimited Quotas

[Ed Crowley]

Like the other Ed is telling you, it shouldn't be your job to make their
business decisions.  You explain the ramifications of having no quotas
currently, what it will mean in the future, and the costs to change
things.  That is, you present options to management.

You should be positioning your job as a service provider, a helper.  Do
your best to leave the policeman role to those best equipped to handle
it, i.e., management.  Your customers, the users, will love you more in
the morning that way.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
hp Services
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of James Liddil
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 5:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Unlimited Quotas


> And the whole idea is that as a support shop, your job is to
> support. Has management told you to put limits? When the 
> email or file system was presented to them, did you say that 
> there were going to be limits.

No.  But I had no idea things would get the way they have.  I do have
mailbox management set to delete mail from the "deleted items" every
seven days. Looking at the recent run shows a few users who had over 10
megs of stuff in there.  So users need more training.  Easier said than
done.  So I had a discussion with the CFO about this.  His analogy is
that never emptying the trash is like letting junk mail build up on your
table until it breaks.  Do people do this?  And if they want to then the
decision will be made to not spend the money on raises but on more
computer hardware/software.


> 
> Your job is to keep people from doing really stupid (not what
> you think is stupid, I mean really stupid) things that impact 
> IT and then to respond to, or be proactive in creating 
> solutions to business problems. You have presented no cases 
> that justify any limits. You've actually presented some 
> pretty good cases for not having limits. Your company is 
> small, probably to get away from the large staffs and stay 
> innovative. This means that you really shouldn't be stifling 
> innovation, don't get in people's way, HELP them do their 
> job. If you see something that they are doing and there is a 
> better way, help them learn a better way. If they need to 
> store 2 GB in the mail server, let them. If they are keeping 
> a backup of their disk, then advise them that there are 
> better ways, but more importantly, make those better ways 
> available and very easy for them to use.

In a perfect world.  I only wish I had the time, resources and energy to
do what you say.  You are right that we want to stay innovative, but let
me tell you that there is as much stagnation as in a big company.  I am
a scientist
(pharmacologist) by training and spent many years doing drug development
research.  Now I am a computer geek and I understand the importance of
computers as a tool for doing research.  I have been on both sides and
still am.  But computers like any scientific instrument require a
certain amount of maintenance etc.  Too often users feel computers are
not like other tools and need no maintenance/tuning.  As much as I try
to make a case to management to pay for more training, tools etc. they
decide to spend money on other things, even though we are a
bioinformatics driven business.  So I have to do things that help me
maintain my sanity/life.  Sure I can tell management that "I told you
so" when things break but all they want to hear is how soon will it be
fixed.  So maybe I am just whining, and should just get over it.  So the
bottom line is it is OK to use exchange as a database and not worry
about it.

Jim

> 
> -Original Message-
> From: James Liddil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Friday, July 05, 2002 4:43 PM
> Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
> Conversation: Unlimited Quotas
> Subject: RE: Unlimited Quotas
> 
> 
> I agree as long as there is money to support it.  But keep in
> mind that having a large IS means that there is that much 
> more stuff for lawyers or the FDA (we do drug development) to 
> go after.  And if you are going to have an unlimited store it 
> ahs to be managed.  Those tools are not free.  I man IT shop 
> and unless I get an open ended budget I have to make some 
> decisions.  My request for journal/archive software is going 
> unanswered.  So all I can do is tell management that both 
> myself and our legal counsel made suggestions. Then I just do 
> my job.  And I imagine some of this is due to the fact I come 
> from having used a VAX account that had pretty strict limits 
> (I still use it. Either you managed it or it would lock you 
> out.  I know times have changed.
> 
> Jim
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Woodrick, Ed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 2:32 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Unlimited Quotas
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Why do you pretend to be arrogant enough to be able to dictat

RE: Calendar issue

[Ed Crowley]

In Outlook there's a setting that specifies how many months of free/busy
data to publish.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
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Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 7:41 AM
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Subject: Calendar issue


Good day All,

Exchange 2000 SP2/OLXP;

Cannot see another user's calendar(no information/no free/busy
information could be retrieved), looks like a permissions issue.A
meeting can be scheduled with the user though. Any ideas on where to
start looking to correct this problem. 

TIA

Raj


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RE: Calendars

[Ed Crowley]

You could write an application.  There's nothing standard in Exchange or
Outlook that does that.

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Here: Exchange / Outlook 2K
Problem:  I have a 'Public' Company calendar.  Everyone can see it.  I
want it to update everyone's private calendar, but not vice versa. Can
anyone help me get this done? Please... TIA


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RE: Unlimited Quotas

[James Liddil]

I am finally getting management to make some decisions.  But they have a
habit of putting things off until we are in a crisis situation.  I hate to
have to wait until all hell breaks loose and then both management AND the
users are throwing a fit.

Jim 

> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 3:06 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Unlimited Quotas
> 
> 
> Like the other Ed is telling you, it shouldn't be your job to 
> make their business decisions.  You explain the ramifications 
> of having no quotas currently, what it will mean in the 
> future, and the costs to change things.  That is, you present 
> options to management.
> 
> You should be positioning your job as a service provider, a 
> helper.  Do your best to leave the policeman role to those 
> best equipped to handle it, i.e., management.  Your 
> customers, the users, will love you more in the morning that way.
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
> Tech Consultant
> hp Services
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of James Liddil
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 5:27 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Unlimited Quotas
> 
> 
> > And the whole idea is that as a support shop, your job is 
> to support. 
> > Has management told you to put limits? When the email or 
> file system 
> > was presented to them, did you say that there were going to 
> be limits.
> 
> No.  But I had no idea things would get the way they have.  I 
> do have mailbox management set to delete mail from the 
> "deleted items" every seven days. Looking at the recent run 
> shows a few users who had over 10 megs of stuff in there.  So 
> users need more training.  Easier said than done.  So I had a 
> discussion with the CFO about this.  His analogy is that 
> never emptying the trash is like letting junk mail build up 
> on your table until it breaks.  Do people do this?  And if 
> they want to then the decision will be made to not spend the 
> money on raises but on more computer hardware/software.
> 
> 
> > 
> > Your job is to keep people from doing really stupid (not what you 
> > think is stupid, I mean really stupid) things that impact 
> IT and then 
> > to respond to, or be proactive in creating solutions to business 
> > problems. You have presented no cases that justify any 
> limits. You've 
> > actually presented some pretty good cases for not having 
> limits. Your 
> > company is small, probably to get away from the large 
> staffs and stay
> > innovative. This means that you really shouldn't be stifling 
> > innovation, don't get in people's way, HELP them do their 
> > job. If you see something that they are doing and there is a 
> > better way, help them learn a better way. If they need to 
> > store 2 GB in the mail server, let them. If they are keeping 
> > a backup of their disk, then advise them that there are 
> > better ways, but more importantly, make those better ways 
> > available and very easy for them to use.
> 
> In a perfect world.  I only wish I had the time, resources 
> and energy to do what you say.  You are right that we want to 
> stay innovative, but let me tell you that there is as much 
> stagnation as in a big company.  I am a scientist
> (pharmacologist) by training and spent many years doing drug 
> development research.  Now I am a computer geek and I 
> understand the importance of computers as a tool for doing 
> research.  I have been on both sides and still am.  But 
> computers like any scientific instrument require a certain 
> amount of maintenance etc.  Too often users feel computers 
> are not like other tools and need no maintenance/tuning.  As 
> much as I try to make a case to management to pay for more 
> training, tools etc. they decide to spend money on other 
> things, even though we are a bioinformatics driven business.  
> So I have to do things that help me maintain my sanity/life.  
> Sure I can tell management that "I told you so" when things 
> break but all they want to hear is how soon will it be fixed. 
>  So maybe I am just whining, and should just get over it.  So 
> the bottom line is it is OK to use exchange as a database and 
> not worry about it.
> 
> Jim
> 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: James Liddil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Posted At: Friday, July 05, 2002 4:43 PM
> > Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
> > Conversation: Unlimited Quotas
> > Subject: RE: Unlimited Quotas
> > 
> > 
> > I agree as long as there is money to support it.  But keep in mind 
> > that having a large IS means that there is that much more stuff for 
> > lawyers or the FDA (we do drug development) to go after.  
> And if you 
> > are going to have an unlimited store it ahs to be managed.  Those 
> > tools are not free.  I man IT shop and unless I get an open ended 
> > budget I have to make some decisions.  My r

RE: Unlimited Quotas

[Ed Crowley]

It is possible that your best option is to do as I suggest and give them
the options well in advance of a crisis and then let the crisis happen.
You can even warn them along the way if you want.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
hp Services
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of James Liddil
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 12:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Unlimited Quotas


I am finally getting management to make some decisions.  But they have a
habit of putting things off until we are in a crisis situation.  I hate
to have to wait until all hell breaks loose and then both management AND
the users are throwing a fit.

Jim 

> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 3:06 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Unlimited Quotas
> 
> 
> Like the other Ed is telling you, it shouldn't be your job to
> make their business decisions.  You explain the ramifications 
> of having no quotas currently, what it will mean in the 
> future, and the costs to change things.  That is, you present 
> options to management.
> 
> You should be positioning your job as a service provider, a
> helper.  Do your best to leave the policeman role to those 
> best equipped to handle it, i.e., management.  Your 
> customers, the users, will love you more in the morning that way.
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
> Tech Consultant
> hp Services
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of James Liddil
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 5:27 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Unlimited Quotas
> 
> 
> > And the whole idea is that as a support shop, your job is
> to support.
> > Has management told you to put limits? When the email or
> file system
> > was presented to them, did you say that there were going to
> be limits.
> 
> No.  But I had no idea things would get the way they have.  I
> do have mailbox management set to delete mail from the 
> "deleted items" every seven days. Looking at the recent run 
> shows a few users who had over 10 megs of stuff in there.  So 
> users need more training.  Easier said than done.  So I had a 
> discussion with the CFO about this.  His analogy is that 
> never emptying the trash is like letting junk mail build up 
> on your table until it breaks.  Do people do this?  And if 
> they want to then the decision will be made to not spend the 
> money on raises but on more computer hardware/software.
> 
> 
> > 
> > Your job is to keep people from doing really stupid (not what you
> > think is stupid, I mean really stupid) things that impact 
> IT and then
> > to respond to, or be proactive in creating solutions to business
> > problems. You have presented no cases that justify any 
> limits. You've
> > actually presented some pretty good cases for not having
> limits. Your
> > company is small, probably to get away from the large
> staffs and stay
> > innovative. This means that you really shouldn't be stifling
> > innovation, don't get in people's way, HELP them do their 
> > job. If you see something that they are doing and there is a 
> > better way, help them learn a better way. If they need to 
> > store 2 GB in the mail server, let them. If they are keeping 
> > a backup of their disk, then advise them that there are 
> > better ways, but more importantly, make those better ways 
> > available and very easy for them to use.
> 
> In a perfect world.  I only wish I had the time, resources
> and energy to do what you say.  You are right that we want to 
> stay innovative, but let me tell you that there is as much 
> stagnation as in a big company.  I am a scientist
> (pharmacologist) by training and spent many years doing drug 
> development research.  Now I am a computer geek and I 
> understand the importance of computers as a tool for doing 
> research.  I have been on both sides and still am.  But 
> computers like any scientific instrument require a certain 
> amount of maintenance etc.  Too often users feel computers 
> are not like other tools and need no maintenance/tuning.  As 
> much as I try to make a case to management to pay for more 
> training, tools etc. they decide to spend money on other 
> things, even though we are a bioinformatics driven business.  
> So I have to do things that help me maintain my sanity/life.  
> Sure I can tell management that "I told you so" when things 
> break but all they want to hear is how soon will it be fixed. 
>  So maybe I am just whining, and should just get over it.  So 
> the bottom line is it is OK to use exchange as a database and 
> not worry about it.
> 
> Jim
> 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: James Liddil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Posted At: Friday, July 05, 2002 4:43 PM
> > Posted To: Microsoft Excha

RE: MTA Error in Event Log.

[Kevin Dietz]

Just added that Ed, and the same error is appearing.

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Re: MFC Mapi

[Chris H]

same issue but the PSS person I am talking to seems to have limited
knowledge of this tool . . . .

- Original Message -
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Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 2:59 PM
Subject: RE: MFC Mapi


> If you called PSS to get the util you should be able to call back and
> reference the same call to get help.. Or is this another issue?
>
> --Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
> http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris H
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 11:52 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: MFC Mapi
>
>
> Does anyone have any experience with a tool from MS PSS called MFCMAPI?
> I am trying to restore a deleted PF tree. I do not get an error but no
> "success" message either . . . anyone ever use?
>
>
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RUS not updating

[Jeremy Pinquist]

Hi all, added a new user today and discovered that after 2 hours, the email address 
had not been automatically entered into the (mailbox enabled) account.  I believe this 
has something to do with the RUS, correct?  Found one reference to it in the KB - 
Q317654.  It says this may happen without any message in the event log, which is the 
case here.  they also say it is likely a permissions issue and the solution would be 
to run   Setup.exe /domainprep which kind of frightens me.  I can't imagine how the 
permissions would have gotten fouled up and when i eyeballed them, they seemed ok.  
has anyone had anything like this happen before, and is it cool to re-run domainprep 
on an otherwise functional machine?

Jeremy

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OWA and IIS Security

[Tony McCarthy]

Hi Everyone,

Lately I've been noticing a number of attempts to hack one of our Exchange
Servers. Our network is behind a Pix firewall and I've closed all
unnecessary ports and have it fairly tightly locked down.  However I have
Port 80, 25 and 110 open for Exchange. My main concern is IIS. I am
considering the possibility of disabling IIS and OWA on the Exchange server
to minimize attacks. I have all the latest NT4 security patches (that I know
of) but the hackers are still attempting to do mischief. There are two
things I'd like to know: -

1. Is there a means of making IIS bullet proof with a patch or 3rd party
tool?

2. Is it possible to install the OWA component on a server that is running
IIS but not Exchange? The reason I ask this is because we have a web server
that's running IIS. I thought it may reduce the risk of attack if I remove
IIS from the Exchange server and use our web server for OWA? I know this is
probably a dumb question but I thought I'd ask it anyway. I've checked out
the FAQ but couldn't find anything on this particular scenario. The Exchange
server in question is running Exchange 5.5 and Nt4 (SP6). The web server is
running W2K (SP2).

I'd greatly appreciate feedback re this.

Regards
Tony

Tony McCarthy
Systems Engineer
OSI Software Ltd
Auckland
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RE: New Virus?

[Pillai, Raj]

 Good day All,

Exchange 2000 SP2/OLXP;mixed mode.

Cannot see another user's calendar(no information/no free/busy information
could be retrieved), looks like a permissions issue.A meeting can be
scheduled with the user though.
Any ideas on where to start looking to correct this problem ?
TIA

Raj

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Upgrading from 5.0 to 5.5

[Jeff Schwarz]

I'm running 5.0 std on an NT server that's about maxed out.  I've got
another server available to upgrade to 5.5, however, when I try to install
the server software and connect to the existing server (VS1) I get the
following error message:
"VS1 is licensed for stand alone use only. Install Microsoft Exchange
Server Connector on VS1 if you want to join it's site"
What is it? Where can I get it?
Question 2: How much unused drive space do I need to just run the upgrade
on the current machine?

Thanks,

Jeff

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Mailbox manager instances

[David Florea]

During the learning curve on Exch2K, I started multiple instances of Mailbox Manager, 
all of which run consecutively every week.  The first does its task but the others run 
anyway.  It's not a serious issue, but I can't find anything in Technet or the 
archives which would indicate where I could find that those jobs are scheduled, and be 
able to delete all but the first instance.  Can that be done, or should I just delete 
that policy altogether and start a new one?

David

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RE: Calendar issue

[Pillai, Raj]

Thanks for the pointer Ed, everything looks OK there, however the time zone
in Calendar options is off by an hour( it is spooky), The exchange server,
XP client are all on CST with daylight savings enabled, the time on the
"time zone" in calendar options is set to the same (CST with daylight
enabled, but is ahead by an hour)
 
Raj
-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 2:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Calendar issue


In Outlook there's a setting that specifies how many months of free/busy
data to publish.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
hp Services
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Pillai, Raj
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 7:41 AM
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Subject: Calendar issue


Good day All,

Exchange 2000 SP2/OLXP;

Cannot see another user's calendar(no information/no free/busy
information could be retrieved), looks like a permissions issue.A
meeting can be scheduled with the user though. Any ideas on where to
start looking to correct this problem. 

TIA

Raj


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RE: OWA and IIS Security

[Smith, Ronni]

1) I think you can't really make anything bulletproof but Microsoft has a
security tool that sets perms for an IIS server running OWA to minimize
risk. Search for the "IIS security tool" or something like that.

2) Yes you can run OWA on a different server. I do that. I have a cheapo
ex-desktop that runs IIS and OWA and that is it. But I don't have very many
users on it either. Be aware that if you have the IIS server in a DMZ then
you may have to open more holes in your firewall than you would like. Some
folks recommend keeping the OWA server inside the firewall so you don't have
to open more than 2 ports to it. This has been discussed on the list in the
past. People can get somewhat passionate about their view on the subject.
You might want to check the archives although I don't know how well the
search feature is working right now.

> -Original Message-
> From: Tony McCarthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 1:30 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: OWA and IIS Security
> 
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> Lately I've been noticing a number of attempts to hack one of 
> our Exchange
> Servers. Our network is behind a Pix firewall and I've closed all
> unnecessary ports and have it fairly tightly locked down.  
> However I have
> Port 80, 25 and 110 open for Exchange. My main concern is IIS. I am
> considering the possibility of disabling IIS and OWA on the 
> Exchange server
> to minimize attacks. I have all the latest NT4 security 
> patches (that I know
> of) but the hackers are still attempting to do mischief. There are two
> things I'd like to know: -
> 
> 1. Is there a means of making IIS bullet proof with a patch 
> or 3rd party
> tool?
> 
> 2. Is it possible to install the OWA component on a server 
> that is running
> IIS but not Exchange? The reason I ask this is because we 
> have a web server
> that's running IIS. I thought it may reduce the risk of 
> attack if I remove
> IIS from the Exchange server and use our web server for OWA? 
> I know this is
> probably a dumb question but I thought I'd ask it anyway. 
> I've checked out
> the FAQ but couldn't find anything on this particular 
> scenario. The Exchange
> server in question is running Exchange 5.5 and Nt4 (SP6). The 
> web server is
> running W2K (SP2).
> 
> I'd greatly appreciate feedback re this.
> 
> Regards
> Tony
> 
> Tony McCarthy
> Systems Engineer
> OSI Software Ltd
> Auckland
> New Zealand
> Ph:64 09 522 5909 
> Fax:64 09 522 5901 
> Mob: 021 703035 
> 
> 
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RE: OWA and IIS Security

[Byron Kennedy]

1. What about using the iis lockdown tool and url scan?  Check technet for
how to get this to work nicely w/ owa.

2. yeah, but you'll still need to allow an rpc/mapi session between owa and
the mailbox server(s), so you'll need to have the dmz configured for the
necessary ports.  So the idea here is that now a hack will have to
compromise the web with http/s (because that's all that's open on the public
side of the firewall), gain root, then discover and compromise the mailbox
servers using the limited number of ports available between them and the
then compromised owa host (dmz).  Or, alternatively you could leave it on
the internal lan whereby a hack would need to compromise the web with
http/s, gain root, then easily discover everything and have full socket
access to your other systems (subject to your application layer security
model).  I guess there are many ways to look at it.  I've done it either way
w/ 5.5.

Good luck-byron

-Original Message-
From: Tony McCarthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 1:30 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OWA and IIS Security


Hi Everyone,

Lately I've been noticing a number of attempts to hack one of our Exchange
Servers. Our network is behind a Pix firewall and I've closed all
unnecessary ports and have it fairly tightly locked down.  However I have
Port 80, 25 and 110 open for Exchange. My main concern is IIS. I am
considering the possibility of disabling IIS and OWA on the Exchange server
to minimize attacks. I have all the latest NT4 security patches (that I know
of) but the hackers are still attempting to do mischief. There are two
things I'd like to know: -

1. Is there a means of making IIS bullet proof with a patch or 3rd party
tool?

2. Is it possible to install the OWA component on a server that is running
IIS but not Exchange? The reason I ask this is because we have a web server
that's running IIS. I thought it may reduce the risk of attack if I remove
IIS from the Exchange server and use our web server for OWA? I know this is
probably a dumb question but I thought I'd ask it anyway. I've checked out
the FAQ but couldn't find anything on this particular scenario. The Exchange
server in question is running Exchange 5.5 and Nt4 (SP6). The web server is
running W2K (SP2).

I'd greatly appreciate feedback re this.

Regards
Tony

Tony McCarthy
Systems Engineer
OSI Software Ltd
Auckland
New Zealand
Ph:64 09 522 5909 
Fax:64 09 522 5901 
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RE: OWA and IIS Security

[Tony McCarthy]

Thanks for the info. I'll have a go at installing OWA on the web server I
think. I see IIS as a necessary evil. We're basically a Microsoft
environment here so since I have to use IIS for the web server I may as well
install OWA on it as well. Do I just install the OWA component from SP4? Any
other Exchange components required?

Regards
Tony

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From: Smith, Ronni [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
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To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and IIS Security

1) I think you can't really make anything bulletproof but Microsoft has a
security tool that sets perms for an IIS server running OWA to minimize
risk. Search for the "IIS security tool" or something like that.

2) Yes you can run OWA on a different server. I do that. I have a cheapo
ex-desktop that runs IIS and OWA and that is it. But I don't have very many
users on it either. Be aware that if you have the IIS server in a DMZ then
you may have to open more holes in your firewall than you would like. Some
folks recommend keeping the OWA server inside the firewall so you don't have
to open more than 2 ports to it. This has been discussed on the list in the
past. People can get somewhat passionate about their view on the subject.
You might want to check the archives although I don't know how well the
search feature is working right now.

> -Original Message-
> From: Tony McCarthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 1:30 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: OWA and IIS Security
> 
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> Lately I've been noticing a number of attempts to hack one of 
> our Exchange
> Servers. Our network is behind a Pix firewall and I've closed all
> unnecessary ports and have it fairly tightly locked down.  
> However I have
> Port 80, 25 and 110 open for Exchange. My main concern is IIS. I am
> considering the possibility of disabling IIS and OWA on the 
> Exchange server
> to minimize attacks. I have all the latest NT4 security 
> patches (that I know
> of) but the hackers are still attempting to do mischief. There are two
> things I'd like to know: -
> 
> 1. Is there a means of making IIS bullet proof with a patch 
> or 3rd party
> tool?
> 
> 2. Is it possible to install the OWA component on a server 
> that is running
> IIS but not Exchange? The reason I ask this is because we 
> have a web server
> that's running IIS. I thought it may reduce the risk of 
> attack if I remove
> IIS from the Exchange server and use our web server for OWA? 
> I know this is
> probably a dumb question but I thought I'd ask it anyway. 
> I've checked out
> the FAQ but couldn't find anything on this particular 
> scenario. The Exchange
> server in question is running Exchange 5.5 and Nt4 (SP6). The 
> web server is
> running W2K (SP2).
> 
> I'd greatly appreciate feedback re this.
> 
> Regards
> Tony
> 
> Tony McCarthy
> Systems Engineer
> OSI Software Ltd
> Auckland
> New Zealand
> Ph:64 09 522 5909 
> Fax:64 09 522 5901 
> Mob: 021 703035 
> 
> 
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Client Locking

[Paul Done]

Hello All-

I periodically (currently) have users with W2k Pro SP2 + HF O2k SR2* Dell
GX240 1.8G 256RAM that have a locking problems when they logon to their
email. I have eliminated network problems, the server seems intact (W2k
Server SP2 + all hotfixes per HFNETCHK).

What happens is they open their email client, wait a moment, then they can
open two messages or so and Outlook locks the whole computer. Task manager
lets them out and they can go through the process again.

Some people who have this problem wait a day and it magically goes away.
This is maddening, does anyone have any further insight or other
troubleshooting techniques?

Paul Done




* The latest problem I have updated to SR2, but the problem is for all
levels (unpatched to SR1a, etc)

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RE: Upgrading from 5.0 to 5.5

[Ed Crowley]

Exchange 5.0 Standard Edition had a limitation whereby you could not
join it to other servers in a site, i.e., it had to be the only server
in a site.  To remedy this, you either installed the Connector or
upgraded to Enterprise Edition.  You should contact your friendly local
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Subject: Upgrading from 5.0 to 5.5


I'm running 5.0 std on an NT server that's about maxed out.  I've got
another server available to upgrade to 5.5, however, when I try to
install the server software and connect to the existing server (VS1) I
get the following error message: "VS1 is licensed for stand alone use
only. Install Microsoft Exchange Server Connector on VS1 if you want to
join it's site" What is it? Where can I get it? Question 2: How much
unused drive space do I need to just run the upgrade on the current
machine?

Thanks,

Jeff

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RE: OWA and IIS Security

[Smith, Ronni]

You need to start with the Exchange install cd and then apply SP4 as far as
I know (I had to do that but we were only on SP3 at that point). I thought
there was something in the FAQ about this too? In one of the appendices
maybe? Yup, here it is:

http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxg.htm

Ronni

> -Original Message-
> From: Tony McCarthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 2:15 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: OWA and IIS Security
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks for the info. I'll have a go at installing OWA on the 
> web server I
> think. I see IIS as a necessary evil. We're basically a Microsoft
> environment here so since I have to use IIS for the web 
> server I may as well
> install OWA on it as well. Do I just install the OWA 
> component from SP4? Any
> other Exchange components required?
> 
> Regards
> Tony
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Smith, Ronni [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, 9 July 2002 8:49 a.m.
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: OWA and IIS Security
> 
> 1) I think you can't really make anything bulletproof but 
> Microsoft has a
> security tool that sets perms for an IIS server running OWA 
> to minimize
> risk. Search for the "IIS security tool" or something like that.
> 
> 2) Yes you can run OWA on a different server. I do that. I 
> have a cheapo
> ex-desktop that runs IIS and OWA and that is it. But I don't 
> have very many
> users on it either. Be aware that if you have the IIS server 
> in a DMZ then
> you may have to open more holes in your firewall than you 
> would like. Some
> folks recommend keeping the OWA server inside the firewall so 
> you don't have
> to open more than 2 ports to it. This has been discussed on 
> the list in the
> past. People can get somewhat passionate about their view on 
> the subject.
> You might want to check the archives although I don't know 
> how well the
> search feature is working right now.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Tony McCarthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 1:30 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: OWA and IIS Security
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Everyone,
> > 
> > Lately I've been noticing a number of attempts to hack one of 
> > our Exchange
> > Servers. Our network is behind a Pix firewall and I've closed all
> > unnecessary ports and have it fairly tightly locked down.  
> > However I have
> > Port 80, 25 and 110 open for Exchange. My main concern is IIS. I am
> > considering the possibility of disabling IIS and OWA on the 
> > Exchange server
> > to minimize attacks. I have all the latest NT4 security 
> > patches (that I know
> > of) but the hackers are still attempting to do mischief. 
> There are two
> > things I'd like to know: -
> > 
> > 1. Is there a means of making IIS bullet proof with a patch 
> > or 3rd party
> > tool?
> > 
> > 2. Is it possible to install the OWA component on a server 
> > that is running
> > IIS but not Exchange? The reason I ask this is because we 
> > have a web server
> > that's running IIS. I thought it may reduce the risk of 
> > attack if I remove
> > IIS from the Exchange server and use our web server for OWA? 
> > I know this is
> > probably a dumb question but I thought I'd ask it anyway. 
> > I've checked out
> > the FAQ but couldn't find anything on this particular 
> > scenario. The Exchange
> > server in question is running Exchange 5.5 and Nt4 (SP6). The 
> > web server is
> > running W2K (SP2).
> > 
> > I'd greatly appreciate feedback re this.
> > 
> > Regards
> > Tony
> > 
> > Tony McCarthy
> > Systems Engineer
> > OSI Software Ltd
> > Auckland
> > New Zealand
> > Ph:64 09 522 5909 
> > Fax:64 09 522 5901 
> > Mob: 021 703035 
> > 
> > 
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RE: Calendar issue

[Ed Crowley]

Try running outlook /cleanfreebusy.

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Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 1:46 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Calendar issue


Thanks for the pointer Ed, everything looks OK there, however the time
zone in Calendar options is off by an hour( it is spooky), The exchange
server, XP client are all on CST with daylight savings enabled, the time
on the "time zone" in calendar options is set to the same (CST with
daylight enabled, but is ahead by an hour)
 
Raj
-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 2:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Calendar issue


In Outlook there's a setting that specifies how many months of free/busy
data to publish.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
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Subject: Calendar issue


Good day All,

Exchange 2000 SP2/OLXP;

Cannot see another user's calendar(no information/no free/busy
information could be retrieved), looks like a permissions issue.A
meeting can be scheduled with the user though. Any ideas on where to
start looking to correct this problem. 

TIA

Raj


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RE: Calendar issue

[Pillai, Raj]

I did that, also with the resetfolders switch.

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Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 4:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Calendar issue


Try running outlook /cleanfreebusy.

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Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 1:46 PM
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Subject: RE: Calendar issue


Thanks for the pointer Ed, everything looks OK there, however the time
zone in Calendar options is off by an hour( it is spooky), The exchange
server, XP client are all on CST with daylight savings enabled, the time
on the "time zone" in calendar options is set to the same (CST with
daylight enabled, but is ahead by an hour)
 
Raj
-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 2:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Calendar issue


In Outlook there's a setting that specifies how many months of free/busy
data to publish.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
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Good day All,

Exchange 2000 SP2/OLXP;

Cannot see another user's calendar(no information/no free/busy
information could be retrieved), looks like a permissions issue.A
meeting can be scheduled with the user though. Any ideas on where to
start looking to correct this problem. 

TIA

Raj


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RE: PST as an archive?

[Dupler, Craig]

Ed's discussion in the FAQ is excellent.  I would add one item to the two
"goods."

If you are providing Exchange Server services to non-employees, they may be
receiving some mail which is not the property of the enterprise.  This could
also be true for employees, but you need to clarify exactly who owns what
and how the law of bailments applies.  A good example of mail which you do
not want to mix into your store is mail that is sent to an on-site customer
or vendor representative that is proprietary and perhaps even "limited" to
that customer or vendor.

If you have a situation in which you are delivering mail and you are not
charging for ISP storage services, then you do not want that mail to be
stored on your servers after it is deemed to have been delivered.  PST's are
the logical solution in such situations.  This fact does nothing to address
the inherent weaknesses in PST's.





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RE: Unlimited Quotas

[Woodrick, Ed]

And then when the users come yelling, just point the finger to the
direction where blame goes. It's rather amazing how people won't go
complaining to a CEO or other decision maker level person. 




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Posted At: Monday, July 08, 2002 3:14 PM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: Unlimited Quotas
Subject: RE: Unlimited Quotas


It is possible that your best option is to do as I suggest and give them
the options well in advance of a crisis and then let the crisis happen.
You can even warn them along the way if you want.

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Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 12:12 PM
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Subject: RE: Unlimited Quotas


I am finally getting management to make some decisions.  But they have a
habit of putting things off until we are in a crisis situation.  I hate
to have to wait until all hell breaks loose and then both management AND
the users are throwing a fit.

Jim 

> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 3:06 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Unlimited Quotas
> 
> 
> Like the other Ed is telling you, it shouldn't be your job to make 
> their business decisions.  You explain the ramifications of having no 
> quotas currently, what it will mean in the future, and the costs to 
> change things.  That is, you present options to management.
> 
> You should be positioning your job as a service provider, a helper.  
> Do your best to leave the policeman role to those best equipped to 
> handle it, i.e., management.  Your customers, the users, will love you

> more in the morning that way.
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
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> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of James Liddil
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 5:27 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Unlimited Quotas
> 
> 
> > And the whole idea is that as a support shop, your job is
> to support.
> > Has management told you to put limits? When the email or
> file system
> > was presented to them, did you say that there were going to
> be limits.
> 
> No.  But I had no idea things would get the way they have.  I do have 
> mailbox management set to delete mail from the "deleted items" every 
> seven days. Looking at the recent run shows a few users who had over 
> 10 megs of stuff in there.  So users need more training.  Easier said 
> than done.  So I had a discussion with the CFO about this.  His 
> analogy is that never emptying the trash is like letting junk mail 
> build up on your table until it breaks.  Do people do this?  And if
> they want to then the decision will be made to not spend the 
> money on raises but on more computer hardware/software.
> 
> 
> > 
> > Your job is to keep people from doing really stupid (not what you
> > think is stupid, I mean really stupid) things that impact 
> IT and then
> > to respond to, or be proactive in creating solutions to business
> > problems. You have presented no cases that justify any 
> limits. You've
> > actually presented some pretty good cases for not having
> limits. Your
> > company is small, probably to get away from the large
> staffs and stay
> > innovative. This means that you really shouldn't be stifling
> > innovation, don't get in people's way, HELP them do their 
> > job. If you see something that they are doing and there is a 
> > better way, help them learn a better way. If they need to 
> > store 2 GB in the mail server, let them. If they are keeping 
> > a backup of their disk, then advise them that there are 
> > better ways, but more importantly, make those better ways 
> > available and very easy for them to use.
> 
> In a perfect world.  I only wish I had the time, resources
> and energy to do what you say.  You are right that we want to 
> stay innovative, but let me tell you that there is as much 
> stagnation as in a big company.  I am a scientist
> (pharmacologist) by training and spent many years doing drug 
> development research.  Now I am a computer geek and I 
> understand the importance of computers as a tool for doing 
> research.  I have been on both sides and still am.  But 
> computers like any scientific instrument require a certain 
> amount of maintenance etc.  Too often users feel computers 
> are not like other tools and need no maintenance/tuning.  As 
> much as I try to make a case to management to pay for more 
> training, tools etc. they decide to spend money on other 
> things, even though we are a bioinformatics driven business.  
> So I have to do things that help me maintain my sanity/life.  
> Sure I can tell management that "I told you so" wh

RE: PST as an archive?

[Woodrick, Ed]

But only to the extent that the company's document retention policy
allows.

-Original Message-
From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Monday, July 01, 2002 2:11 PM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: PST as an archive?
Subject: RE: PST as an archive?


PSTs are horrible as regular mailboxes, but as a filetype for archiving
purposes it's really the only way to go.

-Peter


-Original Message-
From: James Liddil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 10:27
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: PST as an archive?


On another list I am on it is suggested that outlook mail be archived to
.pst files and burned to cd's Is there any good reason to do this?  My
understanding is that this is not a wise idea and that there are better
ways to archive mail stores.  It seems that at least once a week someone
on this list is trying to deal with a corrupt pst file.

Jim Liddil

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Can't open attachments

[Tony McCarthy]

Hi Everyone,

I have a problem with a user (using Outlook 2000) who can't open
attachments.
When she opens new e-mails there is no attachment icon displayed even though

the message contains an attachment. She can open e-mail that was sent to her
yesterday but not today's. This isn't an Outlook blocking .exe file type
issue. It seems to be server side problem because she has the same trouble
regardless of the PC she uses.

The Exchange server is running W2K (SP2) and Exchange 5.5 (SP4). No other
users are affected. There are no limits placed on her mailboxe. Several
weeks ago I migrated her mailbox from an old mail server to the current one.
I don't know if this is relevant though because she's bee fine until now.
Any ideas?

Regards
Tony

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Restoring IS

[Chris H]

I am restoring the Information Store to a recovery server that was backed up
with NT Backup. I have been restoring for about 4 hours now and I am
beginning to wonder if I am just spinning my wheels. Does anyone know if a
restore throws the data right back to d:\exchsrvr\mdbdata\pub.edb | priv.edb
or to a temp file first and then to the file? The size of the .edb's has not
changed in the four hours . . .priv.edb is 18 gb and pub is 4 gb. And I am
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E2K Developer Edition

[Jim Underwood]

Can anyone tell me or provide a ref to the differences between Exchange 2000
Developer Edition and Exchange 2000 standard edition?

I've searched the entire MS site, including KB, TechNet, and MSDN, and
cannot find any info on this.

TIA.

Best Regards,
JMU


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