Best practise for change the language template of a user ???

2001-12-19 Thread Freya Jongkind

Hello,

I have a particullar problem due to the historie in our compagny.
All the people in our compagny speak eitehr dutch or french, so in the
beginning of Exchange and Outlook ( 5 years ago), all the people got a
mailbox in dutch or french version.  A few years later they changed the
policy and now all the users get a english version(template). So I have
three different language templates.
Because this gives troubles in outlook, I wood like to change those still in
Dutch or French to English.
What should I do ?
I thought of deleting them completely and creating them again, in full
english version?

Because these users needs their data again, I thought of creating a tempory
user,
where I could transfer all the data of the user ( I don' t like export,
because I need to get rid of the body such as calender, mailbox in, send
items,  because these are all translated and part of the language
template).
Then delete the user .
And finaly start fresh over with a new mailbox.
When this is ready , I'll copy the old data in this new mailbox.


Is this the way it works , or has anyone better ideas ?

Thanks in advance for help !



Freya Jongkind
ICT Operations  Support Engineer





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Messages stuck in Pending

2001-12-19 Thread Craig Sterley
Title: Messages stuck in Pending





We had our exchange server blow a HDD last week and had all sorts of problems getting it back on line, well that's now history and things seem to be working very well once again. One thing we have is several messages stuck in the inbound meessages awaiting delivery with a status of pending. I can't seem to purge these from the queue. We are running Exchange 5.5 sp4 on nt4


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NDR

2001-12-19 Thread Paul Williams








We use Exchange 5.5 sp4 on SBS 4.5. Clients outlook
2000.



We are having problems sending mail to some domains.



The messages that we can not send are bounced immediately.



This leads me to suspect there is an incorrect setting in
exchange or a DNS issue on our site.



Has anyone any ideas where to start checking. I have read a lot of tech net articles
but none seem appropriate.



As I said earlier some (most) mails are delivered OK but
others to quiet well know domains are bounced.



Our ISP claims that they have no DNS issues that they are
aware of.



Any pointers will be gratefully accepted.



Kevan Dickinson








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Maximum Contacts?

2001-12-19 Thread Boswell Tim

I've had a query come in that I wanted to check before I get back to the
guy. Does anyone know if there's a maximum number of contacts that can be
stored in a users mailbox? Mailbox residing on EX55, client OL2K. 

Any help appreciated, as always

Tim

I find Trinitron is worth an extra 2 in size at least. 
While I agree that Trinitron is valuable, I am a bit worried about the
currency you payed in...




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RE: Messages stuck in Pending

2001-12-19 Thread Neil Hobson

IIRC, the inbound messages awaiting delivery area corresponds to the
MTS-IN folder, so you'll probably have to look at using the mdbvue
utility.

Neil
-Original Message-
From: Craig Sterley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 19 December 2001 10:59
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Messages stuck in Pending
Subject: Messages stuck in Pending


We had our exchange server blow a HDD last week and had all sorts of
problems getting it back on line, well that's now history and things
seem to be working very well once again.  One thing we have is several
messages stuck in the inbound meessages awaiting delivery with a status
of pending.  I can't seem to purge these from the queue.  We are running
Exchange 5.5 sp4 on nt4
 
Craig L. Sterley 
Information Systems Director 
Huizenga Manufacturing Group 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
http://www.jrauto.com 
  
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RE: NDR

2001-12-19 Thread Neil Hobson

You could try using the restest.exe file (on the Exchange CD in the
support directory I think), which uses the same process that the IMS
uses to resolve hostnames.

Neil
-Original Message-
From: Paul Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 19 December 2001 11:34
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: NDR
Subject: NDR


We use Exchange 5.5 sp4  on SBS 4.5.  Clients outlook 2000.
 
We are having problems sending mail to some domains.
 
The messages that we can not send are bounced immediately.
 
This leads me to suspect there is an incorrect setting in exchange or a
DNS issue on our site.
 
Has anyone any ideas where to start checking.  I have read a lot of tech
net articles but none seem appropriate.
 
As I said earlier some (most) mails are delivered OK but others to quiet
well know domains are bounced.
 
Our ISP claims that they have no DNS issues that they are aware of.
 
Any pointers  will be gratefully accepted.
 
Kevan Dickinson
 
 
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RE: Maximum Contacts?

2001-12-19 Thread Neil Hobson

Assuming you're not using a PST, then I don't think there is a limit, as
it's the same theory on how much mail a user can store.  It would more
than likely be a practical limit.

If you are using a PST, then there's a limit of 16k items per folder as
standard, 64k if you upgrade to large tables.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Boswell Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 19 December 2001 12:07
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Maximum Contacts?
Subject: Maximum Contacts?


I've had a query come in that I wanted to check before I get back to the
guy. Does anyone know if there's a maximum number of contacts that can
be stored in a users mailbox? Mailbox residing on EX55, client OL2K. 

Any help appreciated, as always

Tim

I find Trinitron is worth an extra 2 in size at least. 
While I agree that Trinitron is valuable, I am a bit worried about the
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RE: OWA SSL Certificates

2001-12-19 Thread Benjamin Winzenz

First thing I would recommend is to re-do your certificate so that it is
correct.  You can't fix the last warning about not being issued by a trusted
company, because Verisign or another CA didn't issue it, but you can correct
the first part, although you can add your site to the list of trusted
sites within IE settings.  Second, have you tried to import the
certificate, or just download it?  I believe that you have to actually save
it and then import it in order for it to remain in your certificate list.  I
had no issues saving one wherever I wanted to.  This I believe will take
care of problems 2 and 3 that you are experiencing.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Paul Murphy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 6:33 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: OWA SSL Certificates

I'm building an OWA server and have gotten everything to work properly now
except for the SSL certificate.  This is for Exchange 5.5, OWA 5.5, IIS
4.0.  I'm trying to generate my own certificate with the Microsoft
Certificate Server, but I get the following problems:

1) When connecting from a client workstation, the certificate gives 2
warnings:  a) The name on the security certificate does not match the
name of the site. and b) The security certificate was issued by a
company you have chosen not to trust...

2) After downloading the certificate so presumably I won't get the
certificate prompt next time, the certificate prompt shows up again
anyway. This is then followed by 3 logons.

3) Also, I am unable to install the certificate into the Trusted Root
Certification Authorities store. It installs successfully, but then
does not show up in the list of certificates.

Any ideas on what I am missing?
Paul

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Change Exchange Server Name on Clients

2001-12-19 Thread Frank Labule

Hi folks,

How can I automatically change my exchange server name on Outlook client PC?
Exchange 5.5 upgrading to 2000 and Outlook 2000.

Many thanks

Frank

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RE: NDR

2001-12-19 Thread Brian Bauer



whats 
the error message you are receiving?

Brian

  -Original Message-From: Paul Williams 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, 
  December 19, 2001 6:34 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: NDR
  
  We use Exchange 5.5 sp4 on SBS 
  4.5. Clients outlook 2000.
  
  We are having problems sending 
  mail to some domains.
  
  The messages that we can not send 
  are bounced immediately.
  
  This leads me to suspect there is 
  an incorrect setting in exchange or a DNS issue on our 
  site.
  
  Has anyone any ideas where to 
  start checking. I have read a lot 
  of tech net articles but none seem appropriate.
  
  As I said earlier some (most) 
  mails are delivered OK but others to quiet well know domains are 
  bounced.
  
  Our ISP claims that they have no 
  DNS issues that they are aware of.
  
  Any pointers 
  will be gratefully 
  accepted.
  
  Kevan 
  Dickinson
  
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RE: NDR

2001-12-19 Thread Carlos Dinapoli
Title: Message



Paul 
the most of Cases for Troubleshotting problems of Outbound mails is by DNS 
problems.

Exchange when send external email check DNS and search MX of remote 
Domain then connect to MX by port 25 to remote Domain.


I 
think is a problem with ISP. 


test 
youtelnet port 25 to remote domain from Exchange 
Server?

  
  -Original Message-From: Paul Williams 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
  December 19, 2001 8:34 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: NDR
  
  We use Exchange 5.5 sp4 on SBS 
  4.5. Clients outlook 2000.
  
  We are having problems sending 
  mail to some domains.
  
  The messages that we can not send 
  are bounced immediately.
  
  This leads me to suspect there is 
  an incorrect setting in exchange or a DNS issue on our 
  site.
  
  Has anyone any ideas where to 
  start checking. I have read a lot 
  of tech net articles but none seem appropriate.
  
  As I said earlier some (most) 
  mails are delivered OK but others to quiet well know domains are 
  bounced.
  
  Our ISP claims that they have no 
  DNS issues that they are aware of.
  
  Any pointers 
  will be gratefully 
  accepted.
  
  Kevan 
  Dickinson
  
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RE: Change Exchange Server Name on Clients

2001-12-19 Thread Neil Hobson

Hello?  Hello?  Is there anyone there???  You asked this the other
weekdidn't you like any of the answers?? :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Frank Labule [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 19 December 2001 13:28
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Change Exchange Server Name on Clients
Subject: Change Exchange Server Name on Clients


Hi folks,

How can I automatically change my exchange server name on Outlook client
PC? Exchange 5.5 upgrading to 2000 and Outlook 2000.

Many thanks

Frank

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Client Permission Roles

2001-12-19 Thread Callan, Chris

Can anyone point me in the direction of fully understanding Client
Permission Roles when it comes to Forms.  Default Accounts when it comes to
the Organizational Forms Folder is set to Author.  Do normal users need it
set like this so they can work with the forms, or should it be changed.

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RE: Change Exchange Server Name on Clients

2001-12-19 Thread Carlos Dinapoli

Exist tool called Profgen.exe y Newprof.exe

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 11:18 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Change Exchange Server Name on Clients


Hello?  Hello?  Is there anyone there???  You asked this the other
weekdidn't you like any of the answers?? :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Frank Labule [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 19 December 2001 13:28
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Change Exchange Server Name on Clients
Subject: Change Exchange Server Name on Clients


Hi folks,

How can I automatically change my exchange server name on Outlook client PC?
Exchange 5.5 upgrading to 2000 and Outlook 2000.

Many thanks

Frank

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RE: Restoring the private edb

2001-12-19 Thread Don Ely

And you need to remap your keyboard.  It would appear that your S in MS
has been mapped to the $.  I must say that's a pretty weird mapping.

D

Sacrifice: Your role may be thankless, but if you're willing to give it
your all, you just might bring success to those who outlast you. - -
http://www.despair.com

-Original Message-
From: Joe L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 10:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Restoring the private edb


You mean services wouldn't start...
You need to read the M$ whitepaper,
http://www.microsoft.com/Exchange/techinfo/administration/55/BackupResto
re.asp.
You need to use isinteg, and eseutil.
If your not well read in this, dude call PSS. They are the bomb! Its worth
it the money!!

Good luck,
jlc

-Original Message-
From: John Riley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 9:26 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Restoring the private edb

Hi all,

I experienced my first disaster recovery of my Exchange Server and
discovered I was not prepared.  Since the rebuild I have positioned myself
for a better recovery should the situation repeat, which it more than liking
will.  My question is this--I was fortunate enough to have the private edb
and public edb stored on a partition that was not affected by the crash.  Is
there away to recover the private edb items so that users can get back their
old messages?  I tried to rebuild the Exchange server exactly like the
other, but I am sure it's not 100%.  I stopped all services and renamed the
new priv.edb and dumped the old in its placed, but then services would start
up.

Any suggestions or white papers any one might point me to would be
appreciated.

JRiley

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Blocking domain via IMC

2001-12-19 Thread Duebner, Michael



Is there a way of blocking an entire domain from connecting to IMC? 

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RE: Blocking domain via IMC

2001-12-19 Thread Milton R. Dogg

Sure is.. What version of Exchange you gotz? Any firewall in the middle?
Firewalls are just swinging when it comes blocking. 

--
Dr. Milton R. Dogg   
Of the Dogg Foundation
 


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Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 6:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Blocking domain via IMC




Is there a way of blocking an entire domain from connecting to IMC? 

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RE: Blocking domain via IMC

2001-12-19 Thread Duebner, Michael


Running 5.5 here  I was hoping to do it in exchange, rather thank in the
Firewall.  Only one place to look then.  I turned on some logging and found
the domain that its coming from, but not even the user that is sending it to
us.  Its a virus that comes over every 2 to 3 minutes.

Thanks for your help!

Michael

-Original Message-
From: Milton R. Dogg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 8:59
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blocking domain via IMC


Sure is.. What version of Exchange you gotz? Any firewall in the middle?
Firewalls are just swinging when it comes blocking. 

--
Dr. Milton R. Dogg   
Of the Dogg Foundation
 


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Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 6:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Blocking domain via IMC




Is there a way of blocking an entire domain from connecting to IMC? 

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RE: Blocking domain via IMC

2001-12-19 Thread Milton R. Dogg

Tom is very much right about this being an up hill battle.

Configuration | Connections | SMTP connector | Connections | Advanced |
add one and pick reject.

--
Dr. Milton R. Dogg   
Of the Dogg Foundation
 


-Original Message-
From: Duebner, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 7:01 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blocking domain via IMC



Running 5.5 here  I was hoping to do it in exchange, rather thank in
the Firewall.  Only one place to look then.  I turned on some logging
and found the domain that its coming from, but not even the user that is
sending it to us.  Its a virus that comes over every 2 to 3 minutes.

Thanks for your help!

Michael

-Original Message-
From: Milton R. Dogg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 8:59
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blocking domain via IMC


Sure is.. What version of Exchange you gotz? Any firewall in the middle?
Firewalls are just swinging when it comes blocking. 

--
Dr. Milton R. Dogg   
Of the Dogg Foundation
 


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RE: Change Exchange Server Name on Clients(now closed)

2001-12-19 Thread Frank Labule

Just woke up and read all your suggestions. Thanks all not sure how I missed
them in the first place. I'll try them out.

Frank

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 December 2001 14:18
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Change Exchange Server Name on Clients


Hello?  Hello?  Is there anyone there???  You asked this the other
weekdidn't you like any of the answers?? :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Frank Labule [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 19 December 2001 13:28
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Change Exchange Server Name on Clients
Subject: Change Exchange Server Name on Clients


Hi folks,

How can I automatically change my exchange server name on Outlook client
PC? Exchange 5.5 upgrading to 2000 and Outlook 2000.

Many thanks

Frank

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RE: Blocking domain via IMC

2001-12-19 Thread Preston Jeffares

I had a similar problem.  Rather than using message filtering to trash mail from the 
domain, I found the IP address of the offending mail servers and rejected connections. 
 You could do this at the firewall as well.  To reject connections in the IMC... 

Go to the Connections tab
Click on Specify by host
Enter the IP address (or addresses) (use a 255.255.255.255 mask for a single address)
and opt to reject

This should keep them from even connected... message filtering if i am correct still 
lets them connect and send mail (using your bandwidth and resources) and then deletes 
the mail.

-Original Message-
From: Carlos Dinapoli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 10:15 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blocking domain via IMC


Exist one Tab called Filter Messaging in Tab Connection *@domain.com.

Can you install 3 parts tool by example Mail Essential

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RE: NDR

2001-12-19 Thread Kevan Dickinson








This is 
the error message that I recieve.

Your message did not reach some or all of the intended 
recipients.Subject: 
test from onpSent: 19/12/2001 
15:41
The following recipient(s) could not be reached:
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 19/12/2001 15:41
The recipient name is not recognized
The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= 
;p=ONPSBS;l=SBSSERVER-011219154034Z-53

Kevan



  -Original Message-From: Gousset, Laurent 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 19 December 2001 
  15:40To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  NDR
  Do 
  an nslookup on the domain name that you are trying to send mail to and see if 
  they have an MX reccord for their mail server. If they don't, add the 
  domain name in on the IMS|E-mail domain button. Enter theFQDN and 
  select the option "Forward all messages for this domain to host:" and enter 
  the IP address of the domain.
  Stop 
  and restart IMS.
  
  Laurent
  
-Original Message-From: Brian Bauer 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 5:42 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
NDR
whats the error message you are receiving?

Brian

  -Original Message-From: Paul Williams 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, 
  December 19, 2001 6:34 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: NDR
  
  We use Exchange 5.5 sp4 on SBS 
  4.5. Clients outlook 2000.
  
  We are having problems sending 
  mail to some domains.
  
  The messages that we can not 
  send are bounced immediately.
  
  This leads me to suspect there 
  is an incorrect setting in exchange or a DNS issue on our 
  site.
  
  Has anyone any ideas where to 
  start checking. I have read a 
  lot of tech net articles but none seem 
  appropriate.
  
  As I said earlier some (most) 
  mails are delivered OK but others to quiet well know domains are 
  bounced.
  
  Our ISP claims that they have 
  no DNS issues that they are aware of.
  
  Any pointers 
  will be gratefully 
  accepted.
  
  Kevan 
  Dickinson
  
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  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
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RE: Sleeping gone.scr

2001-12-19 Thread Leon Raskin
Title: Message



1 
definition down. I would rephrase my question. I understand why it wasn't 
detected. I don't understands why it was quietly sitting for 10 days, but as 
soon as we change profile it become active again?


Leon Raskin Sr. LAN Analyst Peoples Energy Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

  
  -Original Message-From: David N. Precht 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 
  6:13 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Sleeping 
  "gone.scr"
  how 
  old was the dat
  

-Original Message-From: Martin 
Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 
December 18, 2001 18:42To: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: Sleeping "gone.scr"
FDisk, Format, Restore

As 
for .SCR files, unless you have a busisness reason, they should be blocked 
the mail server.

  
  -Original Message-From: Leon Raskin 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 
  2001 12:56 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
  Sleeping "gone.scr"
  We discovered situation, when machine infected on 12-8-01 
  with gone.scr and did not get proper cleaning (Mcafee 4.51 entr. with new 
  engine, but not updated dat file), but infected e-mail has been deleted. 
  From 12-8 it were sitting and did not created any problem, until 
  today morning. As soon as new user (with new outlook profile) logged on 
  this machine it immediately started to send e-mail, we cached immediately 
  and cleaned. But question, while it was sitting quite and what (new 
  profile???) triggered it to become active??
  TIA, Leon Raskin Sr. LAN Analyst Peoples Energy Corp. 
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RE: OWA SSL Certificates

2001-12-19 Thread Paul Murphy

Ben, thanks for your reply.  I have re-done my certificate 5 or 6 times
now and I keep getting the same problems.  I have tried making the CA
Name, Organization, and CA Description all the same as the site name
and it does not correct my problem.  Maybe I am misunderstanding what is
being used as the site name.  Is it the site name assigned to it in IIS or
the server name?

Also, I was trying to save the certificate on the client by viewing the
certificate and then choosing install certificate which leads me to the
Certificate Import Wizard.I then tried both methods of a) letting
the computer automatically pick a location and b) manually choosing
Trusted Root Certification Authorities.  It successfully saves to
Intermediate Certification Authorities under the automatic method, but
it won't save to Trusted... at all.

Paul

 First thing I would recommend is to re-do your certificate so that it is
 correct.  You can't fix the last warning about not being issued by a trusted
 company, because Verisign or another CA didn't issue it, but you can correct
 the first part, although you can add your site to the list of trusted
 sites within IE settings.  Second, have you tried to import the
 certificate, or just download it?  I believe that you have to actually save
 it and then import it in order for it to remain in your certificate list.  I
 had no issues saving one wherever I wanted to.  This I believe will take
 care of problems 2 and 3 that you are experiencing.
 
 Ben Winzenz, MCSE
 Network/Systems Administrator
 Peregrine Systems, Inc.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Murphy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 6:33 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: OWA SSL Certificates
 
 I'm building an OWA server and have gotten everything to work properly now
 except for the SSL certificate.  This is for Exchange 5.5, OWA 5.5, IIS
 4.0.  I'm trying to generate my own certificate with the Microsoft
 Certificate Server, but I get the following problems:
 
 1) When connecting from a client workstation, the certificate gives 2
 warnings:  a) The name on the security certificate does not match the
 name of the site. and b) The security certificate was issued by a
 company you have chosen not to trust...
 
 2) After downloading the certificate so presumably I won't get the
 certificate prompt next time, the certificate prompt shows up again
 anyway. This is then followed by 3 logons.
 
 3) Also, I am unable to install the certificate into the Trusted Root
 Certification Authorities store. It installs successfully, but then
 does not show up in the list of certificates.
 
 Any ideas on what I am missing?
 Paul
 
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RE: OWA SSL Certificates

2001-12-19 Thread Mike Moser

If your users are coming in from the Internet are you using the fully
qualified domain name (exchange.mycompany.com owa.mycompany.com
whatever.mycompany.com ...) as the common name?

Mike


-Original Message-
From: Paul Murphy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 8:06 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OWA SSL Certificates


Ben, thanks for your reply.  I have re-done my certificate 5 or 6 times
now and I keep getting the same problems.  I have tried making the CA
Name, Organization, and CA Description all the same as the site name
and it does not correct my problem.  Maybe I am misunderstanding what is
being used as the site name.  Is it the site name assigned to it in IIS or
the server name?

Also, I was trying to save the certificate on the client by viewing the
certificate and then choosing install certificate which leads me to the
Certificate Import Wizard.I then tried both methods of a) letting
the computer automatically pick a location and b) manually choosing
Trusted Root Certification Authorities.  It successfully saves to
Intermediate Certification Authorities under the automatic method, but
it won't save to Trusted... at all.

Paul

 First thing I would recommend is to re-do your certificate so that it is
 correct.  You can't fix the last warning about not being issued by a
trusted
 company, because Verisign or another CA didn't issue it, but you can
correct
 the first part, although you can add your site to the list of trusted
 sites within IE settings.  Second, have you tried to import the
 certificate, or just download it?  I believe that you have to actually
save
 it and then import it in order for it to remain in your certificate list.
I
 had no issues saving one wherever I wanted to.  This I believe will take
 care of problems 2 and 3 that you are experiencing.
 
 Ben Winzenz, MCSE
 Network/Systems Administrator
 Peregrine Systems, Inc.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Murphy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 6:33 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: OWA SSL Certificates
 
 I'm building an OWA server and have gotten everything to work properly now
 except for the SSL certificate.  This is for Exchange 5.5, OWA 5.5, IIS
 4.0.  I'm trying to generate my own certificate with the Microsoft
 Certificate Server, but I get the following problems:
 
 1) When connecting from a client workstation, the certificate gives 2
 warnings:  a) The name on the security certificate does not match the
 name of the site. and b) The security certificate was issued by a
 company you have chosen not to trust...
 
 2) After downloading the certificate so presumably I won't get the
 certificate prompt next time, the certificate prompt shows up again
 anyway. This is then followed by 3 logons.
 
 3) Also, I am unable to install the certificate into the Trusted Root
 Certification Authorities store. It installs successfully, but then
 does not show up in the list of certificates.
 
 Any ideas on what I am missing?
 Paul
 
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RE: NDR

2001-12-19 Thread Benjamin Zachary
Title: Message



If Im 
reading it correctly, the domain was found but that username doesnt exist. 


  
  -Original Message-From: Kevan Dickinson 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
  December 19, 2001 10:52 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: NDR
  
  
  
  
  
  This 
  is the error message that I recieve.
  
  Your message did not reach some or all of the intended 
  recipients.Subject: 
  test from onpSent: 19/12/2001 
  15:41
  The following recipient(s) could not be reached:
  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 19/12/2001 15:41
  The recipient name is not recognized
  The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= 
  ;p=ONPSBS;l=SBSSERVER-011219154034Z-53
  
  Kevan
  
  
  
-Original Message-From: Gousset, Laurent 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 19 December 2001 
15:40To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
NDR
Do 
an nslookup on the domain name that you are trying to send mail to and see 
if they have an MX reccord for their mail server. If they don't, add 
the domain name in on the IMS|E-mail domain button. Enter 
theFQDN and select the option "Forward all messages for this domain to 
host:" and enter the IP address of the domain.
Stop and restart IMS.

Laurent

  -Original Message-From: Brian Bauer 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 5:42 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  NDR
  whats the error message you are receiving?
  
  Brian
  
-Original Message-From: Paul Williams 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, 
December 19, 2001 6:34 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: NDR

We use Exchange 5.5 sp4 on 
SBS 4.5. Clients outlook 2000.

We are having problems 
sending mail to some domains.

The messages that we can not 
send are bounced immediately.

This leads me to suspect 
there is an incorrect setting in exchange or a DNS issue on our 
site.

Has anyone any ideas where 
to start checking. I have 
read a lot of tech net articles but none seem 
appropriate.

As I said earlier some 
(most) mails are delivered OK but others to quiet well know domains are 
bounced.

Our ISP claims that they 
have no DNS issues that they are aware of.

Any pointers will be gratefully 
accepted.

Kevan 
Dickinson

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Re: Strange problem

2001-12-19 Thread Bill Nosie

I may have come up with a solution to this.  I have been experiencing the
same problem sending to other Exchange servers.  Another problem I hav
seen is Protocol Error NDR's that contain an error similar to Polite
people say HELO first.

These errors are usually when sending to non-Exchange servers.  The errors
are because the default protocol Exchange uses is ESMTP, which tries to
initiate a session with the remote server with EHLO, not the SMTP standard
HELO.  I disabled outbound ESMTP and both the Protocol Errors and the Host
Unreachable errors went away.

Details on disabling this can be found in TechNet article Q194132
Disabling Outbound ESMTP.

ESMTP should be backward-compatable with SMTP, but this doesn't appear to
be the case in all instances.  I believe this to be a bug.



 I have been scratching my head on this one for a few days now.  I am having
 a problem sending internet email.  But here's the real kicker, I am only
 having problems sending to one domain.  I have not made any changes to my
 server, Exchange 5.5 SP4, NT 4 SP6a.  I know that the company that I am
 trying to send message to has just recently put there server behind a
 firewall.  Wait it gets even stranger, I can telnet to there server and it
 does respond properly.  When I try and send them a message I get Host
 Unreachable.  Do any of you have any ideas for me?
 
 Thanks,
 Blake Fowkes
 Waid and Associates

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RE: Restoring the private edb

2001-12-19 Thread Lefkovics, William

That's fine, but I fail to see how a whitepaper on Multiple Sclerosis will
assist in this case.


-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 6:43 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Restoring the private edb


And you need to remap your keyboard.  It would appear that your S in MS
has been mapped to the $.  I must say that's a pretty weird mapping.

D

Sacrifice: Your role may be thankless, but if you're willing to give it
your all, you just might bring success to those who outlast you. - -
http://www.despair.com

-Original Message-
From: Joe L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 10:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Restoring the private edb


You mean services wouldn't start...
You need to read the M$ whitepaper,
http://www.microsoft.com/Exchange/techinfo/administration/55/BackupResto
re.asp.
You need to use isinteg, and eseutil.
If your not well read in this, dude call PSS. They are the bomb! Its worth
it the money!!

Good luck,
jlc

-Original Message-
From: John Riley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 9:26 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Restoring the private edb

Hi all,

I experienced my first disaster recovery of my Exchange Server and
discovered I was not prepared.  Since the rebuild I have positioned myself
for a better recovery should the situation repeat, which it more than liking
will.  My question is this--I was fortunate enough to have the private edb
and public edb stored on a partition that was not affected by the crash.  Is
there away to recover the private edb items so that users can get back their
old messages?  I tried to rebuild the Exchange server exactly like the
other, but I am sure it's not 100%.  I stopped all services and renamed the
new priv.edb and dumped the old in its placed, but then services would start
up.

Any suggestions or white papers any one might point me to would be
appreciated.

JRiley

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SSL and OWA

2001-12-19 Thread Jonathan K
Title: Message



I am using ssl and 
owa to access my exchange 2kbox remotely. It is extremely slow 
logging in, once logged in the systems run quite fast. I then tried to 
access the exchange box onsite using owa and it is still very slow. Any 
thoughts or ideas?

Thanks,

Jonathan
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RE: NDR

2001-12-19 Thread Lefkovics, William



The 
receiving mail server accepts the connection, but is unable to find a mailbox by 
that name. bursar.secretary does not exist. The domain pmb.ox.ac.uk 
is correct, though.

William

-Original Message-From: Kevan Dickinson 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, 
December 19, 2001 7:52 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: NDR





This is 
the error message that I recieve.

Your message did not reach some or all of the intended 
recipients.Subject: 
test from onpSent: 19/12/2001 
15:41
The following recipient(s) could not be reached:
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 19/12/2001 15:41
The recipient name is not recognized
The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= 
;p=ONPSBS;l=SBSSERVER-011219154034Z-53

Kevan



  -Original Message-From: Gousset, Laurent 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 19 December 2001 
  15:40To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  NDR
  Do 
  an nslookup on the domain name that you are trying to send mail to and see if 
  they have an MX reccord for their mail server. If they don't, add the 
  domain name in on the IMS|E-mail domain button. Enter theFQDN and 
  select the option "Forward all messages for this domain to host:" and enter 
  the IP address of the domain.
  Stop 
  and restart IMS.
  
  Laurent
  
-Original Message-From: Brian Bauer 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 5:42 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
NDR
whats the error message you are receiving?

Brian

  -Original Message-From: Paul Williams 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, 
  December 19, 2001 6:34 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: NDR
  
  We use Exchange 5.5 sp4 on SBS 
  4.5. Clients outlook 2000.
  
  We are having problems sending 
  mail to some domains.
  
  The messages that we can not 
  send are bounced immediately.
  
  This leads me to suspect there 
  is an incorrect setting in exchange or a DNS issue on our 
  site.
  
  Has anyone any ideas where to 
  start checking. I have read a 
  lot of tech net articles but none seem 
  appropriate.
  
  As I said earlier some (most) 
  mails are delivered OK but others to quiet well know domains are 
  bounced.
  
  Our ISP claims that they have 
  no DNS issues that they are aware of.
  
  Any pointers 
  will be gratefully 
  accepted.
  
  Kevan 
  Dickinson
  
  List 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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RE: OWA SSL Certificates

2001-12-19 Thread Benjamin Winzenz

The website, from what I remember. I'm not in front of my server at the
moment, so I can't give you exact details how I set mine up, but I think
that the site you would put in is the http://servername/exchange site.  In
terms of saving the cert, I don't know what to tell you.  With the version
of IE that I am using (6.0), when I view a certificate, I can copy it to a
file (export it).  Once exported, or saved, you can then import it and I was
able to successfully save one to the Trusted Root Cert Authorities.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Paul Murphy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 11:06 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OWA SSL Certificates

Ben, thanks for your reply.  I have re-done my certificate 5 or 6 times
now and I keep getting the same problems.  I have tried making the CA
Name, Organization, and CA Description all the same as the site name
and it does not correct my problem.  Maybe I am misunderstanding what is
being used as the site name.  Is it the site name assigned to it in IIS or
the server name?

Also, I was trying to save the certificate on the client by viewing the
certificate and then choosing install certificate which leads me to the
Certificate Import Wizard.I then tried both methods of a) letting
the computer automatically pick a location and b) manually choosing
Trusted Root Certification Authorities.  It successfully saves to
Intermediate Certification Authorities under the automatic method, but
it won't save to Trusted... at all.

Paul

 First thing I would recommend is to re-do your certificate so that it is
 correct.  You can't fix the last warning about not being issued by a
trusted
 company, because Verisign or another CA didn't issue it, but you can
correct
 the first part, although you can add your site to the list of trusted
 sites within IE settings.  Second, have you tried to import the
 certificate, or just download it?  I believe that you have to actually
save
 it and then import it in order for it to remain in your certificate list.
I
 had no issues saving one wherever I wanted to.  This I believe will take
 care of problems 2 and 3 that you are experiencing.
 
 Ben Winzenz, MCSE
 Network/Systems Administrator
 Peregrine Systems, Inc.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Murphy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 6:33 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: OWA SSL Certificates
 
 I'm building an OWA server and have gotten everything to work properly now
 except for the SSL certificate.  This is for Exchange 5.5, OWA 5.5, IIS
 4.0.  I'm trying to generate my own certificate with the Microsoft
 Certificate Server, but I get the following problems:
 
 1) When connecting from a client workstation, the certificate gives 2
 warnings:  a) The name on the security certificate does not match the
 name of the site. and b) The security certificate was issued by a
 company you have chosen not to trust...
 
 2) After downloading the certificate so presumably I won't get the
 certificate prompt next time, the certificate prompt shows up again
 anyway. This is then followed by 3 logons.
 
 3) Also, I am unable to install the certificate into the Trusted Root
 Certification Authorities store. It installs successfully, but then
 does not show up in the list of certificates.
 
 Any ideas on what I am missing?
 Paul
 
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RE: NDR

2001-12-19 Thread Preston Jeffares
Title: Message



Yeah... it's resolving the name and contacting the server... but the 
recipient address is not found on the remote mail server. Check the 
recipient name.

  -Original Message-From: Benjamin Zachary 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 
  2001 11:24 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  NDR
  If 
  Im reading it correctly, the domain was found but that username doesnt exist. 
  
  

-Original Message-From: Kevan 
Dickinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 10:52 AMTo: 
MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NDR





This 
is the error message that I recieve.

Your message did not reach some or all of the intended 
recipients.Subject: 
test from onpSent: 19/12/2001 
15:41
The following recipient(s) could not be reached:
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 19/12/2001 
15:41
The recipient name is not recognized
The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= 
;p=ONPSBS;l=SBSSERVER-011219154034Z-53

Kevan



  -Original Message-From: Gousset, Laurent 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 19 December 2001 
  15:40To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  NDR
  Do an nslookup on the domain name that you are trying to send mail 
  to and see if they have an MX reccord for their mail server. If they 
  don't, add the domain name in on the IMS|E-mail domain button. Enter 
  theFQDN and select the option "Forward all messages for this domain 
  to host:" and enter the IP address of the domain.
  Stop and restart IMS.
  
  Laurent
  
-Original Message-From: Brian Bauer 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 
5:42 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
NDR
whats the error message you are receiving?

Brian

  -Original Message-From: Paul Williams 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 
  Wednesday, December 19, 2001 6:34 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: NDR
  
  We use Exchange 5.5 sp4 on 
  SBS 4.5. Clients outlook 2000.
  
  We are having problems 
  sending mail to some domains.
  
  The messages that we can 
  not send are bounced immediately.
  
  This leads me to suspect 
  there is an incorrect setting in exchange or a DNS issue on our 
  site.
  
  Has anyone any ideas where 
  to start checking. I have 
  read a lot of tech net articles but none seem 
  appropriate.
  
  As I said earlier some 
  (most) mails are delivered OK but others to quiet well know domains 
  are bounced.
  
  Our ISP claims that they 
  have no DNS issues that they are aware 
of.
  
  Any pointers will be gratefully 
  accepted.
  
  Kevan 
  Dickinson
  
  List 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
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Charter and FAQ 
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RE: SSL and OWA

2001-12-19 Thread Benjamin Winzenz
Title: Message









It's the SSL overhead. It takes a
while.





Ben Winzenz, MCSE

Network/Systems
Administrator

Peregrine Systems, Inc.





-Original Message-
From: Jonathan K
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001
11:12 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: SSL and OWA





I am using ssl and owa to access my exchange 2kbox
remotely. It is extremely slow logging in, once logged in the systems run
quite fast. I then tried to access the exchange box onsite using owa and
it is still very slow. Any thoughts or ideas?











Thanks,











Jonathan



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RE: Restoring the private edb

2001-12-19 Thread Don Ely

#@$#*$(*@#*@($*%#@#

Always a smart a$$ in the crowd.  :P

D

Success usually comes to those who are too busy to be looking for it.
-Henry David Thoreau

-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 8:32 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Restoring the private edb


That's fine, but I fail to see how a whitepaper on Multiple Sclerosis will
assist in this case.


-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 6:43 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Restoring the private edb


And you need to remap your keyboard.  It would appear that your S in MS
has been mapped to the $.  I must say that's a pretty weird mapping.

D

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-Original Message-
From: Joe L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 10:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Restoring the private edb


You mean services wouldn't start...
You need to read the M$ whitepaper,
http://www.microsoft.com/Exchange/techinfo/administration/55/BackupResto
re.asp.
You need to use isinteg, and eseutil.
If your not well read in this, dude call PSS. They are the bomb! Its worth
it the money!!

Good luck,
jlc

-Original Message-
From: John Riley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 9:26 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Restoring the private edb

Hi all,

I experienced my first disaster recovery of my Exchange Server and
discovered I was not prepared.  Since the rebuild I have positioned myself
for a better recovery should the situation repeat, which it more than liking
will.  My question is this--I was fortunate enough to have the private edb
and public edb stored on a partition that was not affected by the crash.  Is
there away to recover the private edb items so that users can get back their
old messages?  I tried to rebuild the Exchange server exactly like the
other, but I am sure it's not 100%.  I stopped all services and renamed the
new priv.edb and dumped the old in its placed, but then services would start
up.

Any suggestions or white papers any one might point me to would be
appreciated.

JRiley

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Unable to submit, send, or transfer out a message. Check PR_RESPO NSIBILITY. - Event ID: 2078

2001-12-19 Thread Brian Bauer

I got his in my event logany ideas

Event Type: Error
Event Source:   MSExchangeIS Private
Event Category: Transport Sending 
Event ID:   2078
Date:   12/19/2001
Time:   11:46:29 AM
User:   N/A
Computer:   JAG_EXCHANGE2
Description:
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Re: Unable to submit, send, or transfer out a message. Check PR_RESPO NSIBILITY. - Event ID: 2078

2001-12-19 Thread David N. Precht

http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=2078source=

- Original Message -
From: Brian Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 12:07
Subject: Unable to submit, send, or transfer out a message. Check PR_RESPO
NSIBILITY. - Event ID: 2078


 I got his in my event logany ideas

 Event Type: Error
 Event Source: MSExchangeIS Private
 Event Category: Transport Sending
 Event ID: 2078
 Date: 12/19/2001
 Time: 11:46:29 AM
 User: N/A
 Computer: JAG_EXCHANGE2
 Description:
 Unable to submit, send, or transfer out a message. Check
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RE: NDR

2001-12-19 Thread Kevan Dickinson
Title: Message



That's 
what it looks like, but there are other email addresses at the same domain that 
I know are correct and I am still getting an NDR about 5 seconds after 
sending.

Kevan


  -Original Message-From: Preston Jeffares 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 19 December 2001 
  16:34To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  NDR
  Yeah... it's resolving the name and contacting the server... but the 
  recipient address is not found on the remote mail server. Check the 
  recipient name.
  
-Original Message-From: Benjamin Zachary 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 
2001 11:24 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
NDR
If 
Im reading it correctly, the domain was found but that username doesnt 
exist. 

  
  -Original Message-From: Kevan 
  Dickinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 10:52 AMTo: 
  MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NDR
  
  
  
  
  
  This is the error message that I 
  recieve.
  
  Your message did not reach some or all of the intended 
  recipients.Subject: 
  test from onpSent: 19/12/2001 
  15:41
  The following recipient(s) could not be 
reached:
  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 19/12/2001 
  15:41
  The recipient name is not recognized
  The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= 
  ;p=ONPSBS;l=SBSSERVER-011219154034Z-53
  
  Kevan
  
  
  
-Original Message-From: Gousset, Laurent 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 19 December 2001 
15:40To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
NDR
Do an nslookup on the domain name that you are trying to send 
mail to and see if they have an MX reccord for their mail server. 
If they don't, add the domain name in on the IMS|E-mail domain 
button. Enter theFQDN and select the option "Forward all 
messages for this domain to host:" and enter the IP address of the 
domain.
Stop and restart IMS.

Laurent

  -Original Message-From: Brian Bauer 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 
  5:42 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  NDR
  whats the error message you are receiving?
  
  Brian
  
-Original Message-From: Paul Williams 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 
Wednesday, December 19, 2001 6:34 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: NDR

We use Exchange 5.5 
sp4 
on SBS 4.5. 
Clients outlook 
2000.

We are having problems 
sending mail to some domains.

The messages that we can 
not send are bounced immediately.

This leads me to suspect 
there is an incorrect setting in exchange or a DNS issue on our 
site.

Has anyone any ideas 
where to start checking. 
I have read a lot of tech net articles but none seem 
appropriate.

As I said earlier some 
(most) mails are delivered OK but others to quiet well know domains 
are bounced.

Our ISP claims that they 
have no DNS issues that they are aware 
of.

Any pointers will be gratefully 
accepted.

Kevan 
Dickinson

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RE: NDR

2001-12-19 Thread Lefkovics, William
Title: Message



Then 
their might be a problem at the recipient server not being able to query its 
directory.

You 
could telnet and try the VRFY command.


-Original Message-From: Kevan Dickinson 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, 
December 19, 2001 9:31 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: NDR
That's 
what it looks like, but there are other email addresses at the same domain that 
I know are correct and I am still getting an NDR about 5 seconds after 
sending.

Kevan


  -Original Message-From: Preston Jeffares 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 19 December 2001 
  16:34To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  NDR
  Yeah... it's resolving the name and contacting the server... but the 
  recipient address is not found on the remote mail server. Check the 
  recipient name.
  
-Original Message-From: Benjamin Zachary 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 
2001 11:24 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
NDR
If 
Im reading it correctly, the domain was found but that username doesnt 
exist. 

  
  -Original Message-From: Kevan 
  Dickinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 10:52 AMTo: 
  MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NDR
  
  
  
  
  
  This is the error message that I 
  recieve.
  
  Your message did not reach some or all of the intended 
  recipients.Subject: 
  test from onpSent: 19/12/2001 
  15:41
  The following recipient(s) could not be 
reached:
  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 19/12/2001 
  15:41
  The recipient name is not recognized
  The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= 
  ;p=ONPSBS;l=SBSSERVER-011219154034Z-53
  
  Kevan
  
  
  
-Original Message-From: Gousset, Laurent 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 19 December 2001 
15:40To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
NDR
Do an nslookup on the domain name that you are trying to send 
mail to and see if they have an MX reccord for their mail server. 
If they don't, add the domain name in on the IMS|E-mail domain 
button. Enter theFQDN and select the option "Forward all 
messages for this domain to host:" and enter the IP address of the 
domain.
Stop and restart IMS.

Laurent

  -Original Message-From: Brian Bauer 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 
  5:42 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  NDR
  whats the error message you are receiving?
  
  Brian
  
-Original Message-From: Paul Williams 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 
Wednesday, December 19, 2001 6:34 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: NDR

We use Exchange 5.5 
sp4 
on SBS 4.5. 
Clients outlook 
2000.

We are having problems 
sending mail to some domains.

The messages that we can 
not send are bounced immediately.

This leads me to suspect 
there is an incorrect setting in exchange or a DNS issue on our 
site.

Has anyone any ideas 
where to start checking. 
I have read a lot of tech net articles but none seem 
appropriate.

As I said earlier some 
(most) mails are delivered OK but others to quiet well know domains 
are bounced.

Our ISP claims that they 
have no DNS issues that they are aware 
of.

Any pointers will be gratefully 
accepted.

Kevan 
Dickinson

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100% CPU when Synch

2001-12-19 Thread MHR(Michael Ross)
Title: Message



I havealot 
Outlook 2000 SP2 clients connecting to an Exchange 5.5 
server.
A few of these pc's 
are pegging the CPU at 100% when you force a synchronization with the ost 
file.
This also happens 
whenever the client itself syncs up with the OST file..


anyone have any 
ideas?

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RE: 100% CPU when Synch

2001-12-19 Thread Lefkovics, William
Title: Message



Aunty 
Virus?


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-Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 9:46 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 100% CPU when 
Synch
I havealot 
Outlook 2000 SP2 clients connecting to an Exchange 5.5 
server.
A few of these pc's 
are pegging the CPU at 100% when you force a synchronization with the ost 
file.
This also happens 
whenever the client itself syncs up with the OST file..


anyone have any 
ideas?

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RE: 100% CPU when Synch

2001-12-19 Thread MHR(Michael Ross)
Title: Message



could 
be.. we are using NAV CE on all the clients...

  
  -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, 
  William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
  December 19, 2001 11:48 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch
  Aunty Virus?
  
  
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  -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 9:46 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 100% CPU when 
  Synch
  I havealot 
  Outlook 2000 SP2 clients connecting to an Exchange 5.5 
  server.
  A few of these 
  pc's are pegging the CPU at 100% when you force a synchronization with the ost 
  file.
  This also happens 
  whenever the client itself syncs up with the OST file..
  
  
  anyone have any 
  ideas?
  
  Michael Ross
  Network Analyst 2
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RE: 100% CPU when Synch

2001-12-19 Thread Lefkovics, William
Title: Message



Can 
you turn it off and test?

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-Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 9:50 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 100% CPU when 
Synch
could 
be.. we are using NAV CE on all the clients...

  
  -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, 
  William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
  December 19, 2001 11:48 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch
  Aunty Virus?
  
  
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  -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 9:46 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 100% CPU when 
  Synch
  I havealot 
  Outlook 2000 SP2 clients connecting to an Exchange 5.5 
  server.
  A few of these 
  pc's are pegging the CPU at 100% when you force a synchronization with the ost 
  file.
  This also happens 
  whenever the client itself syncs up with the OST file..
  
  
  anyone have any 
  ideas?
  
  Michael Ross
  Network Analyst 2
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RE: 100% CPU when Synch

2001-12-19 Thread Benjamin Winzenz
Title: Message









With the Exchange/Outlook add-on or no?





Ben Winzenz, MCSE

Network/Systems
Administrator

Peregrine Systems, Inc.





-Original Message-
From: MHR(Michael Ross)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001
12:50 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch





could be.. we are using NAV CE on all the
clients...





-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001
11:48 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch



Aunty Virus?

















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-Original Message-
From: MHR(Michael Ross)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001
9:46 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: 100% CPU when Synch



I havealot Outlook 2000 SP2 clients connecting to an
Exchange 5.5 server.





A few of these pc's are pegging the CPU at 100% when you
force a synchronization with the ost file.





This also happens whenever the client itself syncs up with
the OST file..

















anyone have any ideas?









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Network Analyst 2

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RE: 100% CPU when Synch

2001-12-19 Thread MHR(Michael Ross)
Title: Message



Yes, 
with the Outloook\exchange option...

  
  -Original Message-From: Benjamin Winzenz 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 
  2001 11:55 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  100% CPU when Synch
  
  With the 
  Exchange/Outlook add-on or no?
  
  
  Ben 
  Winzenz, MCSE
  Network/Systems 
  Administrator
  Peregrine Systems, 
  Inc.
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 12:50 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: 100% CPU 
  when Synch
  
  
  could be.. we are 
  using NAV CE on all the clients...
  
-Original 
Message-From: 
Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 
11:48 AMTo: MS-Exchange 
Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
100% CPU when Synch

Aunty 
Virus?





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-Original 
Message-From: 
MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 9:46 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: 100% CPU 
when Synch

I havealot Outlook 2000 
SP2 clients connecting to an Exchange 5.5 server.

A few of these pc's are pegging 
the CPU at 100% when you force a synchronization with the ost 
file.

This also happens whenever the 
client itself syncs up with the OST file..





anyone have any 
ideas?


Michael 
Ross
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2
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Corp.
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RE: 100% CPU when Synch

2001-12-19 Thread Benjamin Winzenz
Title: Message









If you have AV on your Exchange server as
well, turn that option off on the clients. Think of it this way. Your
Exchange AV program and your desktop AV (NAV-CE) are basically fighting to see
who gets to scan the e-mail. Whoever gets to it first locks it and the other
one can't get to it. Normally, the Exchange AV program will win. Hence,
you have problems on your desktops. Turn it off on the client side, and I bet
your problems will go away. It's understandable to want to have it
running - heck, our Security team wanted us to turn it on, until we
explained to them the hurt it could cause.





Ben Winzenz, MCSE

Network/Systems
Administrator

Peregrine Systems, Inc.





-Original Message-
From: MHR(Michael Ross)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001
12:55 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch





Yes, with the Outloook\exchange option...





-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Winzenz
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001
11:55 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch

With the Exchange/Outlook add-on or no?





Ben Winzenz,
MCSE

Network/Systems Administrator

Peregrine Systems, Inc.





-Original Message-
From: MHR(Michael Ross)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001
12:50 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch





could be.. we are using NAV CE on all the
clients...





-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001
11:48 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch



Aunty Virus?

















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-Original Message-
From: MHR(Michael Ross)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001
9:46 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: 100% CPU when Synch



I havealot Outlook 2000 SP2 clients connecting to an
Exchange 5.5 server.





A few of these pc's are pegging the CPU at 100% when you
force a synchronization with the ost file.





This also happens whenever the client itself syncs up with
the OST file..

















anyone have any ideas?









Michael Ross

Network Analyst 2

Panduit Corp.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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FW: 100% CPU when Synch

2001-12-19 Thread Dillon, Jeff


I'm not sure I buy this analysis...if a LOCAL virus-scanning utility is
scanning email hosted on an Exchange system that also has virus software
active, the ability of the client machine to request the next item for
synchronization is REDUCED by the local overhead of scanning the item.  If
anything, the local scanning REDUCES the load on the Exchange server by
limiting the rate at which the clients can task the server.

We run local and server-based Exchange anti-virus software simultaneously,
and have seen none of the problems mentioned.  I suggest the problem lies
elsewhere, and the original comment that ...a FEW of these (clients) are
pegging the CPU is your clue. 
-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 1:03 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch


If you have AV on your Exchange server as well, turn that option off on the
clients.  Think of it this way.  Your Exchange AV program and your desktop
AV (NAV-CE) are basically fighting to see who gets to scan the e-mail.
Whoever gets to it first locks it and the other one can't get to it.
Normally, the Exchange AV program will win.  Hence, you have problems on
your desktops.  Turn it off on the client side, and I bet your problems will
go away.  It's understandable to want to have it running - heck, our
Security team wanted us to turn it on, until we explained to them the hurt
it could cause.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 12:55 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch

Yes, with the Outloook\exchange option...
-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 11:55 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch
With the Exchange/Outlook add-on or no?

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 12:50 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch

could be.. we are using NAV CE on all the clients...
-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 11:48 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch
Aunty Virus?


William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+
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-Original Message-
From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 9:46 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: 100% CPU when Synch
I have alot Outlook 2000 SP2 clients connecting to an Exchange 5.5 server.
A few of these pc's are pegging the CPU at 100% when you force a
synchronization with the ost file.
This also happens whenever the client itself syncs up with the OST file..


anyone have any ideas?

Michael Ross
Network Analyst 2
Panduit Corp.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Send as functionaliy for non-GAL user

2001-12-19 Thread *ExchangeAdmin
Title: Send as functionaliy for non-GAL user





We have a contracter who currently uses Outlook 2000 in corporate mode for his primary place of work, and retrieves his mail from us via POP3 using the same profile. He has a rule setup so that mail coming to [EMAIL PROTECTED] goes into a seperate folder in his inbox. The question I am attempting to answer is whether there is a way he can send as [EMAIL PROTECTED] when sending/replying to some mails, and [EMAIL PROTECTED] when using the other mail. I have tried adding his [EMAIL PROTECTED] contact info into his corporate contact list, but get the typical You do not have permissions to send as this person when trying to send as. Is it possible to send as a person who is not located in the Exchange GAL using OL 2000? 



TIA,


Danny Cahoon



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RE: 100% CPU when Synch

2001-12-19 Thread Benjamin Winzenz

It doesn't reduce the overhead because the Exchange-based is trying to scan
every piece of mail before it gets to the client.  In the case of a synch,
you are dumping massive amounts of e-mail to a local .ost file.  If you have
both Exchange and client AV software fighting to get to the same e-mails,
guaranteed the Exchange side is going to win, at the expense of the client.
It could also depend on the type of AV that is on the server, i.e. is it
MAPI-based scanning, or AVAPI.  I still don't think I would  recommend
running Exchange AV on both the server and client, if nothing else, than for
the potential to cause problems.  Call your Exchange AV vendor and see what
they say.  You may just be getting lucky.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Dillon, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 1:18 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: FW: 100% CPU when Synch


I'm not sure I buy this analysis...if a LOCAL virus-scanning utility is
scanning email hosted on an Exchange system that also has virus software
active, the ability of the client machine to request the next item for
synchronization is REDUCED by the local overhead of scanning the item.  If
anything, the local scanning REDUCES the load on the Exchange server by
limiting the rate at which the clients can task the server.

We run local and server-based Exchange anti-virus software simultaneously,
and have seen none of the problems mentioned.  I suggest the problem lies
elsewhere, and the original comment that ...a FEW of these (clients) are
pegging the CPU is your clue. 
-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 1:03 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch


If you have AV on your Exchange server as well, turn that option off on the
clients.  Think of it this way.  Your Exchange AV program and your desktop
AV (NAV-CE) are basically fighting to see who gets to scan the e-mail.
Whoever gets to it first locks it and the other one can't get to it.
Normally, the Exchange AV program will win.  Hence, you have problems on
your desktops.  Turn it off on the client side, and I bet your problems will
go away.  It's understandable to want to have it running - heck, our
Security team wanted us to turn it on, until we explained to them the hurt
it could cause.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 12:55 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch

Yes, with the Outloook\exchange option...
-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 11:55 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch
With the Exchange/Outlook add-on or no?

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 12:50 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch

could be.. we are using NAV CE on all the clients...
-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 11:48 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch
Aunty Virus?


William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+
---
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http://www.airborne.net
---
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-Original Message-
From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 9:46 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: 100% CPU when Synch
I have alot Outlook 2000 SP2 clients connecting to an Exchange 5.5 server.
A few of these pc's are pegging the CPU at 100% when you force a
synchronization with the ost file.
This also happens whenever the client itself syncs up with the OST file..


anyone have any ideas?

Michael Ross
Network Analyst 2
Panduit Corp.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Exchange 2k Password Reset Gone...

2001-12-19 Thread Zamanian, Behzad
Title: Exchange 2k Password Reset Gone...





We just installed Exchange 2k and we are in the process of testing it. All of the sudden for no apparent reason certain user properties and functions disappeared. for example, we can not reset the password any more. the option has been disappeared. We thought it was the permission but we are using admin account that is a member of admin group and enterprise admin group. We also looked at policy to see if there is a corrupt policy somewhere but there is no policy created yet.

Can anyone shine some light on our issue here?



Thanks everyone,


Behzad Zamanian
Advancement Systems Architect
University Advancement, UCI
(949)824-8041 x. 48041
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Exchange 5.5 problem on 2000 server

2001-12-19 Thread Eric Wittenberg
Title: Exchange 5.5 problem on 2000 server





Windows 2000 sp2
Exchange 5.5 sp4


Late last week I moved the last of my mail users from an older Alpha NT 4 box onto the new Windows 2000 server and removed the Alpha from the site. These last users are the only users that connect thru POP3 access, and with the move to the new server they can no longer receive emails with attachments. As these are remote users I checked the firewall etc., and then tried POP3 access in house using Outlook Express and out of 575 emails with 60 or 70 attachments, I received only 6 attachments. There are no restrictions on these accounts, and the attachments vary in size from 20 bytes on up.


Eric Wittenberg, MCSE CNA ASE 
Technical Systems Analyst 
3D Computer Services Ltd. 
Edmonton, Alberta 
(780)484 9788 Fax (780) 484 9811 
e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
URL www.3dcomp.com



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Re: Exchange 5.5 problem on 2000 server

2001-12-19 Thread David N. Precht
Title: Exchange 5.5 problem on 2000 server



Any filter apps or AV apps?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Eric 
  Wittenberg 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin 
  Issues 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 13:34 
  
  Subject: Exchange 5.5 problem on 2000 
  server
  
  Windows 2000 sp2 Exchange 5.5 
  sp4 
  Late last week I moved the last of my mail users from an older 
  Alpha NT 4 box onto the new Windows 2000 server and removed the Alpha from the 
  site. These last users are the only users that connect thru POP3 access, and 
  with the move to the new server they can no longer receive emails with 
  attachments. As these are remote users I checked the firewall etc., and then 
  tried POP3 access in house using Outlook Express and out of 575 emails with 60 
  or 70 attachments, I received only 6 attachments. There are no restrictions on 
  these accounts, and the attachments vary in size from 20 bytes on 
  up.
  Eric Wittenberg, MCSE CNA ASE Technical Systems Analyst 3D Computer Services 
  Ltd. Edmonton, Alberta (780)484 9788 Fax (780) 484 9811 e-mail 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL www.3dcomp.com 
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RE: Exchange 5.5 problem on 2000 server

2001-12-19 Thread Milton R. Dogg
Title: Message



Any AV 
software on the server? odd settings on the Client end? Firewall? event log 
entrees? this sounds like a very hard to track down error. 



--
Dr. Milton R. 
Dogg 
Of the Dogg 
Foundation


  
  -Original Message-From: Eric Wittenberg 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 
  10:35 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Exchange 
  5.5 problem on 2000 server
  Windows 2000 sp2 Exchange 5.5 
  sp4 
  Late last week I moved the last of my mail users from an older 
  Alpha NT 4 box onto the new Windows 2000 server and removed the Alpha from the 
  site. These last users are the only users that connect thru POP3 access, and 
  with the move to the new server they can no longer receive emails with 
  attachments. As these are remote users I checked the firewall etc., and then 
  tried POP3 access in house using Outlook Express and out of 575 emails with 60 
  or 70 attachments, I received only 6 attachments. There are no restrictions on 
  these accounts, and the attachments vary in size from 20 bytes on 
  up.
  Eric Wittenberg, MCSE CNA ASE Technical Systems Analyst 3D Computer Services 
  Ltd. Edmonton, Alberta (780)484 9788 Fax (780) 484 9811 e-mail 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL www.3dcomp.com 
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RE: 100% CPU when Synch

2001-12-19 Thread MHR(Michael Ross)
Title: Message



Well, 
we killed NAVCE on the client turned it off.. not running at 
all..


and 
its still doing it


  
  -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, 
  William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
  December 19, 2001 11:48 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch
  Aunty Virus?
  
  
  William Lefkovics, MCSE, 
  A+
  ---
  Why just ride, when you 
  can fly?
  http://www.airborne.net
  ---
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  -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 9:46 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 100% CPU when 
  Synch
  I havealot 
  Outlook 2000 SP2 clients connecting to an Exchange 5.5 
  server.
  A few of these 
  pc's are pegging the CPU at 100% when you force a synchronization with the ost 
  file.
  This also happens 
  whenever the client itself syncs up with the OST file..
  
  
  anyone have any 
  ideas?
  
  Michael Ross
  Network Analyst 2
  Panduit Corp.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  If at first you don't 
  succeed, Skydiving isn't for you.
  
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  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
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RE: 100% CPU when Synch

2001-12-19 Thread Benjamin Winzenz
Title: Message









Perhaps then a corrupt OST file, or
corrupt e-mail profile. I would whack the OST file, then re-create it and
re-synch, and if the symptoms still exhibit, delete and re-create the mail
profile.





Ben Winzenz, MCSE

Network/Systems
Administrator

Peregrine Systems, Inc.





-Original Message-
From: MHR(Michael Ross)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001
1:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch





Well, we killed NAVCE on the client
turned it off.. not running at all..

















and its still doing it











-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001
11:48 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch



Aunty Virus?

















William Lefkovics,
MCSE, A+





---





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can fly?





http://www.airborne.net





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-Original Message-
From: MHR(Michael Ross)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001
9:46 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: 100% CPU when Synch



I havealot Outlook 2000 SP2 clients connecting to an
Exchange 5.5 server.





A few of these pc's are pegging the CPU at 100% when you
force a synchronization with the ost file.





This also happens whenever the client itself syncs up with
the OST file..

















anyone have any ideas?









Michael Ross

Network Analyst 2

Panduit Corp.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

If at first you don't succeed, Skydiving isn't for you.









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RE: Exchange 5.5 problem on 2000 server

2001-12-19 Thread Eric Wittenberg
Title: Message









I have set
logging to maximum and there are no errors.



Eric Wittenberg,
MCSE CNA ASE 

Technical
Systems Analyst 

3D Computer
Services Ltd. 

Edmonton,
Alberta 

(780)484 9788
Fax (780) 484 9811 

e-mail
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

URL
www.3dcomp.com



-Original
Message-
From: Milton R. Dogg
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001
11:55 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 problem
on 2000 server



Any AV software on the
server? odd settings on the Client end? Firewall? event log entrees? this
sounds like a very hard to track down error. 





--

Dr.
Milton R. Dogg 

Of the
Dogg Foundation



-Original
Message-
From: Eric Wittenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001
10:35 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 5.5 problem on
2000 server

Windows 2000 sp2 
Exchange 5.5 sp4 

Late last week I moved the last of my mail
users from an older Alpha NT 4 box onto the new Windows 2000 server and removed
the Alpha from the site. These last users are the only users that connect thru
POP3 access, and with the move to the new server they can no longer receive
emails with attachments. As these are remote users I checked the firewall etc.,
and then tried POP3 access in house using Outlook Express and out of 575 emails
with 60 or 70 attachments, I received only 6 attachments. There are no
restrictions on these accounts, and the attachments vary in size from 20 bytes
on up.



Eric Wittenberg, MCSE CNA ASE 
Technical Systems Analyst 
3D Computer Services Ltd. 
Edmonton, Alberta 
(780)484 9788 Fax (780) 484 9811 
e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
URL www.3dcomp.com 

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Distribution lists blues

2001-12-19 Thread Mitchell Mike

Good afternoon,

Exchange 5.5 Sp4 and Outlook 98

For some reason the distribution list called #1 became attached to several
CCed messages today?  This caused 6 messages that we know of going to the
wrong users.  The users say they didn't do anything special.  Please advise.

Regards,

Mike Mitchell
Systems eMAIL Administrator
Alverno Information Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(317) 532-7800 ext. 6211


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RE: Distribution lists blues

2001-12-19 Thread *ExchangeAdmin
Title: RE: Distribution lists blues





When you look in their sent mail, I assume that the DL is showing up on the CC line. If thats the case, It'd seem that someone let the DL resolve, rather than the intended name.

Danny Cahoon


-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 11:06 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Distribution lists blues



Good afternoon,


Exchange 5.5 Sp4 and Outlook 98


For some reason the distribution list called #1 became attached to several
CCed messages today? This caused 6 messages that we know of going to the
wrong users. The users say they didn't do anything special. Please advise.


Regards,


Mike Mitchell
Systems eMAIL Administrator
Alverno Information Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(317) 532-7800 ext. 6211



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RE: Exchange 5.5 problem on 2000 server

2001-12-19 Thread Eric Wittenberg
Title: Exchange 5.5 problem on 2000 server









McAfee
GroupShield for AV for Exchange, no filter apps. The old Alpha also had the
same version of Groupshield. File AV is done by Norton CE.



Eric Wittenberg,
MCSE CNA ASE 

Technical
Systems Analyst 

3D Computer Services
Ltd. 

Edmonton,
Alberta 

(780)484 9788
Fax (780) 484 9811 

e-mail
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

URL
www.3dcomp.com



-Original
Message-
From: David N. Precht
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001
11:36 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 5.5 problem
on 2000 server



Any
filter apps or AV apps?



-
Original Message - 







From: Eric
Wittenberg 









To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 

Sent: Wednesday, December 19,
2001 13:34 

Subject:
Exchange 5.5 problem on 2000 server



Windows 2000
sp2 
Exchange 5.5 sp4 

Late last
week I moved the last of my mail users from an older Alpha NT 4 box onto the
new Windows 2000 server and removed the Alpha from the site. These last users
are the only users that connect thru POP3 access, and with the move to the new
server they can no longer receive emails with attachments. As these are remote
users I checked the firewall etc., and then tried POP3 access in house using
Outlook Express and out of 575 emails with 60 or 70 attachments, I received
only 6 attachments. There are no restrictions on these accounts, and the
attachments vary in size from 20 bytes on up.



Eric
Wittenberg, MCSE CNA ASE 
Technical Systems Analyst 
3D Computer Services Ltd. 
Edmonton, Alberta 
(780)484 9788 Fax (780) 484 9811 
e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
URL www.3dcomp.com 

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Please help! OWA 5.5 on W2K

2001-12-19 Thread Jennifer Auiler

I have been attempting in install OWA for Ex 5.5. I am getting the error
message that I don't have some of the neccessary NT hotfixes in order to
complete the installation. Just for the heck of it I tried to install the
NT fixes listed in the release notes, but of course they wouldn't install
on my 2k machine. At first I thought it was because I had installed the
security tool kit, and that it had locked down IIS too tightly. I tried
uninstalling that, still with no luck. I also tried installing OWA on a
different 2K server and I had the same results. I have seen postings from
some of you that have OWA on a 2K.. am I missing something? I posted this
last week but didn't get any responses. (It was Friday afternoon.. so I
understand..)


Jennifer Auiler
Server Support Specialist 
IT Security Coordinator
Drury University
900 N. Benton
417 873 7310
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: Off topic Win 2k issue.

2001-12-19 Thread Arnold, Jamie

It's more fun to use NTFSDOS Pro, rename user manager to the default logon
screensaver, boot the machine and wait a few minutes for user manager to
popup..


Fun stuff...

-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 9:19 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Off topic Win 2k issue.


On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Ellery July wrote:
 It is amazing how secure these NT,2000,XP machines are. That admin 
 password is very tough.  If you lose it you might as well just toss 
 the machine in the river.

  The thing that annoys me is there is no Microsoft-provided way to reset
the dang thing, even if you have physical access to the system.  Let's face
it, if you have physical access, your security is toast, regardless, so all
this does is make our lives difficult.  The ironic part is, one solution to
this problem I frequently see posted is to boot Linux from floppy and use a
special tool to edit the SAM.

-- 
Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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| not | necessarily represent the views or policy of any other person, 
| entity or  | organization.  All information is provided without 
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RE: 100% CPU when Synch

2001-12-19 Thread MHR(Michael Ross)
Title: Message



damn.. 
i killed nav... deleted the OST file..
opened 
outlook. .whammo.. same thing.. 100% outlook .exe.

Now, 
when I setup a profile for this user on another pc all is 
fine.
I even 
deleted his outlook profile.. same thing...

im 
getting desperate.

  
  -Original Message-From: Benjamin Winzenz 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 
  2001 1:01 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  100% CPU when Synch
  
  Perhaps then a 
  corrupt OST file, or corrupt e-mail profile. I would whack the OST file, 
  then re-create it and re-synch, and if the symptoms still exhibit, delete and 
  re-create the mail profile.
  
  
  Ben 
  Winzenz, MCSE
  Network/Systems 
  Administrator
  Peregrine Systems, 
  Inc.
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 1:56 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: 100% CPU 
  when Synch
  
  
  Well, we killed NAVCE 
  on the client turned it off.. not running at all..
  
  
  
  
  
  and its still doing 
  it
  
  
  
-Original 
Message-From: 
Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 
11:48 AMTo: MS-Exchange 
Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
100% CPU when Synch

Aunty 
Virus?





William 
Lefkovics, MCSE, A+

---

Why just ride, 
when you can fly?

http://www.airborne.net

---

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-Original 
Message-From: 
MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 9:46 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: 100% CPU 
when Synch

I havealot Outlook 2000 
SP2 clients connecting to an Exchange 5.5 server.

A few of these pc's are pegging 
the CPU at 100% when you force a synchronization with the ost 
file.

This also happens whenever the 
client itself syncs up with the OST file..





anyone have any 
ideas?


Michael 
Ross
Network Analyst 
2
Panduit 
Corp.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

If at first you 
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An RPC communications error occurred...PLEASE HELP

2001-12-19 Thread Brian Bauer

Event Type: Warning
Event Source:   MSExchangeMTA
Event Category: Interface 
Event ID:   9318
Date:   12/19/2001
Time:   3:42:43 PM
User:   N/A
Computer:   JAG_EXCHANGE2
Description:
An RPC communications error occurred. Unable to bind over RPC. Locality
Table (LTAB) index: 185, NT/MTA error code: 1722. Comms error   1722,   Bind
error   1722,   Remote Server Name JAG-EXCH-03 [MAIN BASE 1 500 %10] (14) 

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RE: An RPC communications error occurred...PLEASE HELP

2001-12-19 Thread Milton R. Dogg

Q261251, Q170056 

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-Original Message-
From: Brian Bauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 12:52 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: An RPC communications error occurred...PLEASE HELP


Event Type: Warning
Event Source:   MSExchangeMTA
Event Category: Interface 
Event ID:   9318
Date:   12/19/2001
Time:   3:42:43 PM
User:   N/A
Computer:   JAG_EXCHANGE2
Description:
An RPC communications error occurred. Unable to bind over RPC. Locality
Table (LTAB) index: 185, NT/MTA error code: 1722. Comms error   1722,
Bind
error   1722,   Remote Server Name JAG-EXCH-03 [MAIN BASE 1 500 %10]
(14) 

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RE: An RPC communications error occurred...PLEASE HELP

2001-12-19 Thread Milton R. Dogg

http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=9318source=

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-Original Message-
From: Brian Bauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 12:52 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: An RPC communications error occurred...PLEASE HELP


Event Type: Warning
Event Source:   MSExchangeMTA
Event Category: Interface 
Event ID:   9318
Date:   12/19/2001
Time:   3:42:43 PM
User:   N/A
Computer:   JAG_EXCHANGE2
Description:
An RPC communications error occurred. Unable to bind over RPC. Locality
Table (LTAB) index: 185, NT/MTA error code: 1722. Comms error   1722,
Bind
error   1722,   Remote Server Name JAG-EXCH-03 [MAIN BASE 1 500 %10]
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RE: 100% CPU when Synch

2001-12-19 Thread MHR(Michael Ross)
Title: Message





damn.. i 
killed nav... deleted the OST file..
opened 
outlook. .whammo.. same thing.. 100% outlook .exe.

Now, when 
I setup a profile for this user on another pc all is fine.
I even 
deleted his outlook profile.. same thing...

im getting 
desperate.

  
  -Original Message-From: Benjamin Winzenz 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 
  2001 1:01 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  100% CPU when Synch
  
  Perhaps then a 
  corrupt OST file, or corrupt e-mail profile. I would whack the OST file, 
  then re-create it and re-synch, and if the symptoms still exhibit, delete and 
  re-create the mail profile.
  
  
  Ben 
  Winzenz, MCSE
  Network/Systems 
  Administrator
  Peregrine Systems, 
  Inc.
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 1:56 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: 100% CPU 
  when Synch
  
  
  Well, we killed NAVCE 
  on the client turned it off.. not running at all..
  
  
  
  
  
  and its still doing 
  it
  
  
  
-Original 
Message-From: 
Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 
11:48 AMTo: MS-Exchange 
Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
100% CPU when Synch

Aunty 
Virus?





William 
Lefkovics, MCSE, A+

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Message-From: 
MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 9:46 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: 100% CPU 
when Synch

I havealot Outlook 2000 
SP2 clients connecting to an Exchange 5.5 server.

A few of these pc's are pegging 
the CPU at 100% when you force a synchronization with the ost 
file.

This also happens whenever the 
client itself syncs up with the OST file..





anyone have any 
ideas?


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Ross
Network Analyst 
2
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Corp.
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RE: Exchange 5.5 problem on 2000 server

2001-12-19 Thread Eric Wittenberg
Title: Message









Internal originated e-mail is affected also. Only Outlook Express so
far. Groupshield for Exchange Server.



Eric Wittenberg, MCSE
CNA ASE


Technical
Systems Analyst 

3D
Computer Services Ltd. 

Edmonton,
Alberta 

(780)484
9788 Fax (780) 484 9811 

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-Original
Message-
From: Adams, Shawn
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001
12:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 problem
on 2000 server



Anyone using Outlook XP ir is it
only outlook esperss?

Antivirus sft on the exchange
server(groupshield(mcafee) or nav for exchange(check blocking)

Is this only happing to incomming email
from the internet or internal also?

(Check SMTP scanner for blocking)



Thank You,

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Enterprise Network Administrator
Provena Health Care-Information Systems
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on 2000 server

I have set logging to maximum and there are no
errors.



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Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001
11:55 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 problem
on 2000 server



Any AV
software on the server? odd settings on the Client end? Firewall? event log
entrees? this sounds like a very hard to track down error. 





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-Original Message-
From: Eric Wittenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001
10:35 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 5.5 problem on
2000 server

Windows 2000
sp2 
Exchange 5.5 sp4 

Late last
week I moved the last of my mail users from an older Alpha NT 4 box onto the
new Windows 2000 server and removed the Alpha from the site. These last users
are the only users that connect thru POP3 access, and with the move to the new
server they can no longer receive emails with attachments. As these are remote
users I checked the firewall etc., and then tried POP3 access in house using
Outlook Express and out of 575 emails with 60 or 70 attachments, I received
only 6 attachments. There are no restrictions on these accounts, and the
attachments vary in size from 20 bytes on up.



Eric
Wittenberg, MCSE CNA ASE 
Technical Systems Analyst 
3D Computer Services Ltd. 
Edmonton, Alberta 
(780)484 9788 Fax (780) 484 9811 
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RE: 100% CPU when Synch

2001-12-19 Thread Dillon, Jeff

The server and client don't fight for the messages--the client tells the
server to send a message, the server sends it (whether the server first
scans it or not is irrelevant) and the client then scans it.  The more CPU
cycles spent scanning by the client, the less cycles are available to
request the next message, reducing the server load.  As you've seen from the
follow-ups, disabling the local scanning has NO effect on the pegged client
CPU--there is something else afoot.  Your suggestion that scanning is
unwanted at both the client and server level is unwise on several counts,
starting with the scenario where the client has configured access to a
non-Exchange POP server.  And in the MAPI-scanning scenario, MS acknowledges
that a server under extreme load puts higher priority on delivery than
scanning, so unscanned messages can reach the client.  If there's nothing
scanning at the client level, you're in trouble, needlessly. 

-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 1:26 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch


It doesn't reduce the overhead because the Exchange-based is trying to scan
every piece of mail before it gets to the client.  In the case of a synch,
you are dumping massive amounts of e-mail to a local .ost file.  If you have
both Exchange and client AV software fighting to get to the same e-mails,
guaranteed the Exchange side is going to win, at the expense of the client.
It could also depend on the type of AV that is on the server, i.e. is it
MAPI-based scanning, or AVAPI.  I still don't think I would  recommend
running Exchange AV on both the server and client, if nothing else, than for
the potential to cause problems.  Call your Exchange AV vendor and see what
they say.  You may just be getting lucky.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Dillon, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 1:18 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: FW: 100% CPU when Synch


I'm not sure I buy this analysis...if a LOCAL virus-scanning utility is
scanning email hosted on an Exchange system that also has virus software
active, the ability of the client machine to request the next item for
synchronization is REDUCED by the local overhead of scanning the item.  If
anything, the local scanning REDUCES the load on the Exchange server by
limiting the rate at which the clients can task the server.

We run local and server-based Exchange anti-virus software simultaneously,
and have seen none of the problems mentioned.  I suggest the problem lies
elsewhere, and the original comment that ...a FEW of these (clients) are
pegging the CPU is your clue. 
-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 1:03 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch


If you have AV on your Exchange server as well, turn that option off on the
clients.  Think of it this way.  Your Exchange AV program and your desktop
AV (NAV-CE) are basically fighting to see who gets to scan the e-mail.
Whoever gets to it first locks it and the other one can't get to it.
Normally, the Exchange AV program will win.  Hence, you have problems on
your desktops.  Turn it off on the client side, and I bet your problems will
go away.  It's understandable to want to have it running - heck, our
Security team wanted us to turn it on, until we explained to them the hurt
it could cause.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 12:55 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch

Yes, with the Outloook\exchange option...
-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 11:55 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch
With the Exchange/Outlook add-on or no?

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 12:50 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch

could be.. we are using NAV CE on all the clients...
-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 11:48 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch
Aunty Virus?


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Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 9:46 AM
To: 

RE: An RPC communications error occurred...PLEASE HELP

2001-12-19 Thread Carlos Dinapoli

Check this link, This error is by problem networking. 1722 indicate RCP
problems, use RPCping for check conectivity


http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=9318+source=MSExchangeMTA



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From: Brian Bauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 5:52 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: An RPC communications error occurred...PLEASE HELP


Event Type: Warning
Event Source:   MSExchangeMTA
Event Category: Interface 
Event ID:   9318
Date:   12/19/2001
Time:   3:42:43 PM
User:   N/A
Computer:   JAG_EXCHANGE2
Description:
An RPC communications error occurred. Unable to bind over RPC. Locality
Table (LTAB) index: 185, NT/MTA error code: 1722. Comms error   1722,   Bind
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Interesting UDP port problem - Resolved

2001-12-19 Thread John Matteson

Good afternoon to you all:

We just went through a very interesting evolution regarding our
Exchange server (NT4.0 SP6, Exchange 5.5 latest SP and patches). Our
firewall admin was seeing UDP packets, bound for various port numbers,
attempting to depart for the Internet. These packets were dropped, but
logged. These various IP addresses were mostly ATT dial-up accounts, or
cable modem accounts coming in through our VPN service to the Exchange box.

It seems that the Outlook client connects via both the native IP
address on the client end, as well as the IP address assigned by the VPN.
UDP packets bound for the VPN addresses are processed normally by the
client. Exchange also generates UDP packets with the destination IP of the
client's native IP address. These are the packets that the admin was seeing
self-destructing on the firewall.

This seems to be SOP for Exchange. I don't know how useful this
information is, but it is interesting.

Have fun you all.

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RE: 100% CPU when Synch

2001-12-19 Thread Bob Fronk \(BTR Technologies, Inc\)
Title: Message









Have you applied SR1 to Office?



See http://support.microsoft.com/directory/article.asp?ID=KB;EN-US;Q249762



Hope it helps.







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President /Consultant

BTR Technologies, Inc.

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-Original Message-
From: MHR(Michael Ross)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001
3:31 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch





damn.. i killed nav...
deleted the OST file..





opened outlook. .whammo..
same thing.. 100% outlook .exe.











Now, when I setup a
profile for this user on another pc all is fine.





I even deleted his
outlook profile.. same thing...











im getting desperate.





-Original
Message-
From: Benjamin Winzenz
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001
1:01 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch

Perhaps then a corrupt
OST file, or corrupt e-mail profile. I would whack the OST file, then
re-create it and re-synch, and if the symptoms still exhibit, delete and
re-create the mail profile.





Ben Winzenz, MCSE

Network/Systems
Administrator

Peregrine
Systems, Inc.





-Original Message-
From: MHR(Michael Ross)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001
1:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch





Well, we killed NAVCE on
the client turned it off.. not running at all..

















and its still doing it











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Message-
From: Lefkovics, William
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001
11:48 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch



Aunty Virus?

















William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+





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Message-
From: MHR(Michael Ross)
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Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001
9:46 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: 100% CPU when Synch



I havealot Outlook 2000 SP2
clients connecting to an Exchange 5.5 server.





A few of these pc's are pegging the
CPU at 100% when you force a synchronization with the ost file.





This also happens whenever the
client itself syncs up with the OST file..

















anyone have any ideas?









Michael Ross

Network
Analyst 2

Panduit
Corp.

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RE: Information Store Limit

2001-12-19 Thread Desiree Herrmann

I agree, running a somewhat smaller mail system here, but last March we
ended up with a corrupt Inf Store every time I tried to do anything with the
boss' mailbox.  A few restores later, and my entire day Good Friday, I got
the Information Store up, took care of that one, very large mailbox, 1.4GB,
created Personal folders for him on a 40GB PC in his office, and put that
into my backup routine...

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From: Randy Hensel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 3:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Information Store Limit


Yes

Randy Hensel, MCP, Network Systems Administrator
Coffey Communications, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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509.525.4793 (Fax)
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-Original Message-
From: David N Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 7:41 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Information Store Limit

Do you run backups of workstations ?

--- Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Agreed. While PST does = BAD, there can be a time
 and place. This sounds
 like it.
 I would also let them know they are keeping it on
 the local machine. If they
 want to abuse resources, let them abuse their own.
 -Original Message-
 From: Randy Hensel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 7:35 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Information Store Limit
 
 
 I will have to go with William on this one.  I have
 147 users the top 10
 offenders account for more that 9GB of data.  As I
 see it I have 2 options,
 Spend $3300 on an Enterprise upgrade, or set storage
 quotas and encourage
 the use of PST files.  Seems like a no brainer to
 me, I have 5 users with
 more than 1GB each.  I don't mind users saving every
 little email but it
 seems logical that they should find somewhere else
 to put them.
  
 Randy Hensel, MCP, Network Systems Administrator
 Coffey Communications, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 509.525.0101 Ext. 594
 509.525.4793 (Fax)
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 http://www.coffeycomm.com
 -Original Message-
 From: Lefkovics, William
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 5:24 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Information Store Limit
  
 What else you got? ;o)
  
 Not for primary email storage.  Only for archiving.
  
 -Original Message-
 From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 5:23 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Information Store Limit
 but stable ?
 -Original Message-
 From: Lefkovics, William
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 19:46
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Information Store Limit
 It is a viable form of email archiving.
  
 William
  
 -Original Message-
 From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 4:34 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Information Store Limit
 as in don't use them
 -Original Message-
 From: Randy Hensel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 19:07
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Information Store Limit
 I'm not sure I can recover that much space, I am
 planning an upgrade to
 2000.  I don't have a quota in place it looks like I
 will need to implement
 that as well as plan some formal training on the use
 of pst files.
  
 Randy Hensel, MCP, Network Systems Administrator
 Coffey Communications, Inc.
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 -Original Message-
 From: Lefkovics, William
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:59 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Information Store Limit
  
 If you recover enough space within the database
 (perhaps 6GB+), an offline
 defrag would not be a bad idea.  
  
 Otherwise, yor plan is certainly sound.  Do you have
 a formal mailbox quota
 policy in place?
  
 William
  
 -Original Message-
 From: Randy Hensel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:57 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Information Store Limit
 I am running Windows NT 4.0 SP 6a and Exchange 5.5
 SP 4 (not Enterprise) I
 have run up against the 16GB information store
 limit.  I have managed to the
 IS started again and would like to take steps to
 reduce the IS size.  My
 plan is to:
  
 1.  Move data to PST files 
 2.  delete unused mailboxes 
 3.  reduce deleted item retention 
  
 Is this a good plan? Should I also do an off line
 defrag? Any thing else? 
  
 Thanks
  
 Randy Hensel, MCP, Network Systems Administrator
 Coffey Communications, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: Information Store Limit

2001-12-19 Thread Benjamin Winzenz

Just remember that there is a hard limit for PST files, which is set at 2GB.
You hit that, the PST is toast.  Can't open it any more.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Desiree Herrmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 4:43 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Information Store Limit

I agree, running a somewhat smaller mail system here, but last March we
ended up with a corrupt Inf Store every time I tried to do anything with the
boss' mailbox.  A few restores later, and my entire day Good Friday, I got
the Information Store up, took care of that one, very large mailbox, 1.4GB,
created Personal folders for him on a 40GB PC in his office, and put that
into my backup routine...

[EMAIL PROTECTED]




-Original Message-
From: Randy Hensel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 3:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Information Store Limit


Yes

Randy Hensel, MCP, Network Systems Administrator
Coffey Communications, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
509.525.0101 Ext. 594
509.525.4793 (Fax)
http://www.coffeycomm.com


-Original Message-
From: David N Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 7:41 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Information Store Limit

Do you run backups of workstations ?

--- Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Agreed. While PST does = BAD, there can be a time
 and place. This sounds
 like it.
 I would also let them know they are keeping it on
 the local machine. If they
 want to abuse resources, let them abuse their own.
 -Original Message-
 From: Randy Hensel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 7:35 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Information Store Limit
 
 
 I will have to go with William on this one.  I have
 147 users the top 10
 offenders account for more that 9GB of data.  As I
 see it I have 2 options,
 Spend $3300 on an Enterprise upgrade, or set storage
 quotas and encourage
 the use of PST files.  Seems like a no brainer to
 me, I have 5 users with
 more than 1GB each.  I don't mind users saving every
 little email but it
 seems logical that they should find somewhere else
 to put them.
  
 Randy Hensel, MCP, Network Systems Administrator
 Coffey Communications, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 509.525.0101 Ext. 594
 509.525.4793 (Fax)
  http://www.coffeycomm.com/
 http://www.coffeycomm.com
 -Original Message-
 From: Lefkovics, William
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 5:24 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Information Store Limit
  
 What else you got? ;o)
  
 Not for primary email storage.  Only for archiving.
  
 -Original Message-
 From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 5:23 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Information Store Limit
 but stable ?
 -Original Message-
 From: Lefkovics, William
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 19:46
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Information Store Limit
 It is a viable form of email archiving.
  
 William
  
 -Original Message-
 From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 4:34 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Information Store Limit
 as in don't use them
 -Original Message-
 From: Randy Hensel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 19:07
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Information Store Limit
 I'm not sure I can recover that much space, I am
 planning an upgrade to
 2000.  I don't have a quota in place it looks like I
 will need to implement
 that as well as plan some formal training on the use
 of pst files.
  
 Randy Hensel, MCP, Network Systems Administrator
 Coffey Communications, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 509.525.0101 Ext. 594
 509.525.4793 (Fax)
  http://www.coffeycomm.com/
 http://www.coffeycomm.com
 -Original Message-
 From: Lefkovics, William
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:59 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Information Store Limit
  
 If you recover enough space within the database
 (perhaps 6GB+), an offline
 defrag would not be a bad idea.  
  
 Otherwise, yor plan is certainly sound.  Do you have
 a formal mailbox quota
 policy in place?
  
 William
  
 -Original Message-
 From: Randy Hensel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:57 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Information Store Limit
 I am running Windows NT 4.0 SP 6a and Exchange 5.5
 SP 4 (not Enterprise) I
 have run up against the 16GB information store
 limit.  I have managed to the
 IS started again and would like to take steps to
 reduce the IS size.  My
 plan is to:
  
 1.  Move data to PST files 
 2.  delete 

Microsoft Exchange Move Server Wizard

2001-12-19 Thread Beahm, Keith
Title: Microsoft Exchange Move Server Wizard





We are preparing to merge with another firm that is also using Exchange v5.5. We are all W2K SP2 with Exchange v5.5 SP4, and they are all NT6 SP6 with Exchange v5.5 SP4. Once we have joined NT domains we will need a tool to combine the two Exchange systems, and the Move Server Wizard looks like just that tool. We also have the option to ExMerge all data out to PSTs and join the two systems that way, but assuming the wizard works correctly it seems preferable. Has anyone had any experiences with this - good or bad? Any comments from people who have been through a similar scenario that may have solved the issue differently would also be appreciated.


Keith Beahm, Network Engineer
Stinson Mag  Fizzell, P.C.
816.691.3374
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
816.918.0988



List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm





RE: Microsoft Exchange Move Server Wizard

2001-12-19 Thread Lefkovics, William
Title: Microsoft Exchange Move Server Wizard



I 
prefer exmerge.

William Lefkovics, MCSE, 
A+
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fly?
http://www.airborne.net
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-Original Message-From: Beahm, Keith 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 2:11 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Microsoft Exchange 
Move Server Wizard
We are preparing to merge with another firm that is 
also using Exchange v5.5. We are all W2K SP2 with Exchange v5.5 SP4, and 
they are all NT6 SP6 with Exchange v5.5 SP4. Once we have joined NT 
domains we will need a tool to combine the two Exchange systems, and the Move 
Server Wizard looks like just that tool. We also have the option to 
ExMerge all data out to PSTs and join the two systems that way, but assuming the 
wizard works correctly it seems preferable. Has anyone had any experiences 
with this - good or bad? Any comments from people who have been through a 
similar scenario that may have solved the issue differently would also be 
appreciated.
Keith Beahm, Network 
Engineer Stinson Mag 
 Fizzell, P.C. 816.691.3374 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 816.918.0988 List Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm





Employee Departures

2001-12-19 Thread William Smith
Title: Employee Departures





What is your general policy for the time between a employee being let go and the removal of his mailbox? I just finished an audit of the size of the disk usage on my exchange server and noticed that there are at least 2GB of old users who have left the company.


William L. Smith
Systems Administrator



List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm





RE: Employee Departures

2001-12-19 Thread William Smith
Title: Message



30 
days for the successor to go through the mailbox, then you blow it 
away.

I'd 
love to be able to do that. Hopefully our policy will end up like 
that.
W

  
  -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, 
  William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
  December 19, 2001 5:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Employee Departures
  30 
  days.
  
  William Lefkovics, MCSE, 
  A+
  ---
  Why just ride, when you 
  can fly?
  http://www.airborne.net
  ---
  Rent this space: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  -Original Message-From: William Smith 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 2:54 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Employee 
  Departures
  What is your general policy for the time between a 
  employee being let go and the removal of his mailbox? I just finished an audit 
  of the size of the disk usage on my exchange server and noticed that there are 
  at least 2GB of old users who have left the company.
  William L. Smith Systems Administrator List Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm





RE: 100% CPU when Synch

2001-12-19 Thread Benjamin Winzenz

I'm not going to sit here and argue with you.  I will admit that I don't
always present things in a matter which explains every nit-picking detail.
I do know that it was explained to me some time ago exactly why we do not
enable client-based Exchange AV here and while I can't remember every single
detail, I do know there were valid reasons presented that stated why we
would not employ this feature.  I still pose the question to you of have you
spoken to your Exchange AV vendor and asked them about having both server
and client side scanning simultaneously?  You never answered me.  

I don't know why you feel a burning desire to prove your overwhelming
knowledge about this subject, and try and prove that I don't know what I am
talking about - don't know if you noticed, but I'm not the only one that
suggested disabling antivirus on the client.  Or were you too busy thinking
of a retort to my comments?  I did notice that disabling it had no effect.
I also made some other suggestions, or didn't you notice those either?  I
haven't seen any suggestions come out of your mouth (or keyboard, as it
were).

Your comment about a need for client-based Exchange AV is relevant when
dealing with non-Exchange POP3 access.  I agree with that.  We don't allow
POP access because of this, and other security reasons.  The MAPI scenario,
while acknowledged to by MS, I have never seen happen in a real-life
scenario.  Have you?  We still use MAPI-based scanning, and process a LOT of
mail, and this scenario has never happened to us.  Then again, if you buy
cheap AV software, you may be more at risk.  None of us here are too worried
about it.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Dillon, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 4:13 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch

The server and client don't fight for the messages--the client tells the
server to send a message, the server sends it (whether the server first
scans it or not is irrelevant) and the client then scans it.  The more CPU
cycles spent scanning by the client, the less cycles are available to
request the next message, reducing the server load.  As you've seen from the
follow-ups, disabling the local scanning has NO effect on the pegged client
CPU--there is something else afoot.  Your suggestion that scanning is
unwanted at both the client and server level is unwise on several counts,
starting with the scenario where the client has configured access to a
non-Exchange POP server.  And in the MAPI-scanning scenario, MS acknowledges
that a server under extreme load puts higher priority on delivery than
scanning, so unscanned messages can reach the client.  If there's nothing
scanning at the client level, you're in trouble, needlessly. 

-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 1:26 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch


It doesn't reduce the overhead because the Exchange-based is trying to scan
every piece of mail before it gets to the client.  In the case of a synch,
you are dumping massive amounts of e-mail to a local .ost file.  If you have
both Exchange and client AV software fighting to get to the same e-mails,
guaranteed the Exchange side is going to win, at the expense of the client.
It could also depend on the type of AV that is on the server, i.e. is it
MAPI-based scanning, or AVAPI.  I still don't think I would  recommend
running Exchange AV on both the server and client, if nothing else, than for
the potential to cause problems.  Call your Exchange AV vendor and see what
they say.  You may just be getting lucky.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Dillon, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 1:18 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: FW: 100% CPU when Synch


I'm not sure I buy this analysis...if a LOCAL virus-scanning utility is
scanning email hosted on an Exchange system that also has virus software
active, the ability of the client machine to request the next item for
synchronization is REDUCED by the local overhead of scanning the item.  If
anything, the local scanning REDUCES the load on the Exchange server by
limiting the rate at which the clients can task the server.

We run local and server-based Exchange anti-virus software simultaneously,
and have seen none of the problems mentioned.  I suggest the problem lies
elsewhere, and the original comment that ...a FEW of these (clients) are
pegging the CPU is your clue. 
-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 1:03 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch


If you have AV on your Exchange server as well, turn that option off on the
clients.  Think of it this way.  Your 

RE: Employee Departures

2001-12-19 Thread Lefkovics, William
Title: Message



Employee leaves.

Mailbox accessis granted to supervisor.

After 
30 days mailbox is either:
1) 
deleted
2) 
balance archived to .pst

SMTP 
alias is then added to 'ex-employee' mailbox list of aliases for stray 
emails.

William Lefkovics, MCSE, 
A+
---
Why just ride, when you can 
fly?
http://www.airborne.net
---
Rent this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-From: William Smith 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 2:58 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee 
Departures
30 
days for the successor to go through the mailbox, then you blow it 
away.

I'd 
love to be able to do that. Hopefully our policy will end up like 
that.
W

  
  -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, 
  William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
  December 19, 2001 5:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Employee Departures
  30 
  days.
  
  William Lefkovics, MCSE, 
  A+
  ---
  Why just ride, when you 
  can fly?
  http://www.airborne.net
  ---
  Rent this space: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  -Original Message-From: William Smith 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 2:54 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Employee 
  Departures
  What is your general policy for the time between a 
  employee being let go and the removal of his mailbox? I just finished an audit 
  of the size of the disk usage on my exchange server and noticed that there are 
  at least 2GB of old users who have left the company.
  William L. Smith Systems Administrator List Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm





RE: 100% CPU when Synch

2001-12-19 Thread Dillon, Jeff

I believe we're all free to counter bad advice.  And I gave several
suggestions, here and offline.  I seriously doubt that there is a single AV
vendor who makes client- and server-end AV products who says they shouldn't
be used simultaneously.  Not allowing POP access doesn't prevent the user
from configuring it anyway--it's quite easy.  Please don't get upset when
you make a questionable blanket statement based upon reasons you can't
recall, and someone objects.

-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 4:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch


I'm not going to sit here and argue with you.  I will admit that I don't
always present things in a matter which explains every nit-picking detail.
I do know that it was explained to me some time ago exactly why we do not
enable client-based Exchange AV here and while I can't remember every single
detail, I do know there were valid reasons presented that stated why we
would not employ this feature.  I still pose the question to you of have you
spoken to your Exchange AV vendor and asked them about having both server
and client side scanning simultaneously?  You never answered me.  

I don't know why you feel a burning desire to prove your overwhelming
knowledge about this subject, and try and prove that I don't know what I am
talking about - don't know if you noticed, but I'm not the only one that
suggested disabling antivirus on the client.  Or were you too busy thinking
of a retort to my comments?  I did notice that disabling it had no effect.
I also made some other suggestions, or didn't you notice those either?  I
haven't seen any suggestions come out of your mouth (or keyboard, as it
were).

Your comment about a need for client-based Exchange AV is relevant when
dealing with non-Exchange POP3 access.  I agree with that.  We don't allow
POP access because of this, and other security reasons.  The MAPI scenario,
while acknowledged to by MS, I have never seen happen in a real-life
scenario.  Have you?  We still use MAPI-based scanning, and process a LOT of
mail, and this scenario has never happened to us.  Then again, if you buy
cheap AV software, you may be more at risk.  None of us here are too worried
about it.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Dillon, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 4:13 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch

The server and client don't fight for the messages--the client tells the
server to send a message, the server sends it (whether the server first
scans it or not is irrelevant) and the client then scans it.  The more CPU
cycles spent scanning by the client, the less cycles are available to
request the next message, reducing the server load.  As you've seen from the
follow-ups, disabling the local scanning has NO effect on the pegged client
CPU--there is something else afoot.  Your suggestion that scanning is
unwanted at both the client and server level is unwise on several counts,
starting with the scenario where the client has configured access to a
non-Exchange POP server.  And in the MAPI-scanning scenario, MS acknowledges
that a server under extreme load puts higher priority on delivery than
scanning, so unscanned messages can reach the client.  If there's nothing
scanning at the client level, you're in trouble, needlessly. 

-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 1:26 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch


It doesn't reduce the overhead because the Exchange-based is trying to scan
every piece of mail before it gets to the client.  In the case of a synch,
you are dumping massive amounts of e-mail to a local .ost file.  If you have
both Exchange and client AV software fighting to get to the same e-mails,
guaranteed the Exchange side is going to win, at the expense of the client.
It could also depend on the type of AV that is on the server, i.e. is it
MAPI-based scanning, or AVAPI.  I still don't think I would  recommend
running Exchange AV on both the server and client, if nothing else, than for
the potential to cause problems.  Call your Exchange AV vendor and see what
they say.  You may just be getting lucky.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Dillon, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 1:18 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: FW: 100% CPU when Synch


I'm not sure I buy this analysis...if a LOCAL virus-scanning utility is
scanning email hosted on an Exchange system that also has virus software
active, the ability of the client machine to request the next item for
synchronization is REDUCED by the local overhead of scanning the item.  If
anything, the local scanning 

RE: 100% CPU when Synch

2001-12-19 Thread Lefkovics, William

Not allowing POP access doesn't prevent the user from configuring it
anyway

If it doesn't, then you're preventing it wrong ;)

William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+
---
Why just ride, when you can fly?
http://www.airborne.net 
---
Rent this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Dillon, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 3:13 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch


I believe we're all free to counter bad advice.  And I gave several
suggestions, here and offline.  I seriously doubt that there is a single AV
vendor who makes client- and server-end AV products who says they shouldn't
be used simultaneously.  Not allowing POP access doesn't prevent the user
from configuring it anyway--it's quite easy.  Please don't get upset when
you make a questionable blanket statement based upon reasons you can't
recall, and someone objects.

-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 4:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch


I'm not going to sit here and argue with you.  I will admit that I don't
always present things in a matter which explains every nit-picking detail.
I do know that it was explained to me some time ago exactly why we do not
enable client-based Exchange AV here and while I can't remember every single
detail, I do know there were valid reasons presented that stated why we
would not employ this feature.  I still pose the question to you of have you
spoken to your Exchange AV vendor and asked them about having both server
and client side scanning simultaneously?  You never answered me.  

I don't know why you feel a burning desire to prove your overwhelming
knowledge about this subject, and try and prove that I don't know what I am
talking about - don't know if you noticed, but I'm not the only one that
suggested disabling antivirus on the client.  Or were you too busy thinking
of a retort to my comments?  I did notice that disabling it had no effect.
I also made some other suggestions, or didn't you notice those either?  I
haven't seen any suggestions come out of your mouth (or keyboard, as it
were).

Your comment about a need for client-based Exchange AV is relevant when
dealing with non-Exchange POP3 access.  I agree with that.  We don't allow
POP access because of this, and other security reasons.  The MAPI scenario,
while acknowledged to by MS, I have never seen happen in a real-life
scenario.  Have you?  We still use MAPI-based scanning, and process a LOT of
mail, and this scenario has never happened to us.  Then again, if you buy
cheap AV software, you may be more at risk.  None of us here are too worried
about it.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Dillon, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 4:13 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch

The server and client don't fight for the messages--the client tells the
server to send a message, the server sends it (whether the server first
scans it or not is irrelevant) and the client then scans it.  The more CPU
cycles spent scanning by the client, the less cycles are available to
request the next message, reducing the server load.  As you've seen from the
follow-ups, disabling the local scanning has NO effect on the pegged client
CPU--there is something else afoot.  Your suggestion that scanning is
unwanted at both the client and server level is unwise on several counts,
starting with the scenario where the client has configured access to a
non-Exchange POP server.  And in the MAPI-scanning scenario, MS acknowledges
that a server under extreme load puts higher priority on delivery than
scanning, so unscanned messages can reach the client.  If there's nothing
scanning at the client level, you're in trouble, needlessly. 

-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 1:26 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch


It doesn't reduce the overhead because the Exchange-based is trying to scan
every piece of mail before it gets to the client.  In the case of a synch,
you are dumping massive amounts of e-mail to a local .ost file.  If you have
both Exchange and client AV software fighting to get to the same e-mails,
guaranteed the Exchange side is going to win, at the expense of the client.
It could also depend on the type of AV that is on the server, i.e. is it
MAPI-based scanning, or AVAPI.  I still don't think I would  recommend
running Exchange AV on both the server and client, if nothing else, than for
the potential to cause problems.  Call your Exchange AV vendor and see what
they say.  You may just be getting lucky.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator

RE: Employee Departures

2001-12-19 Thread Garland Mac Neill
Title: Employee Departures









Typically when the supervisor is finished
reviewing it. However, we disable the account and that prevents new email from
coming in to fill the box. 



-Original Message-
From: William Smith
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001
3:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Employee Departures



What is your general policy for the time between a
employee being let go and the removal of his mailbox? I just finished an audit
of the size of the disk usage on my exchange server and noticed that there are
at least 2GB of old users who have left the company.



William L. Smith 
Systems
Administrator 

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm







RE: Employee Departures- a question not exactly related

2001-12-19 Thread CJ Hays
Title: Message









How large
should an admin set quotas for psts.
Many people like them real big not realizing the consequences for
storage. Thanks 



Crossan W. Hays, Jr. 

Border Health
Initiative

148 East 30th
Street Suite Up-South

National City, CA
91950

(619)791-2609

Fax:
(619)791-2600

[EMAIL PROTECTED]





-Original
Message-
From: Lefkovics, William
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001
2:59 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Employee Departures



Employee leaves.



Mailbox accessis
granted to supervisor.



After 30 days mailbox is
either:

1) deleted

2) balance archived to
.pst



SMTP alias is then added
to 'ex-employee' mailbox list of aliases for stray emails.



William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+

---

Why
just ride, when you can fly?

http://www.airborne.net

---

Rent
this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED]





-Original
Message-
From: William Smith
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001
2:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Employee Departures

30 days for the successor
to go through the mailbox, then you blow it away.



I'd love to be able to do
that. Hopefully our policy will end up like that.


W

-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001
5:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Employee Departures

30 days.



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-Original Message-
From: William Smith
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001
2:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Employee Departures

What is your general
policy for the time between a employee being let go and the removal of his
mailbox? I just finished an audit of the size of the disk usage on my exchange
server and noticed that there are at least 2GB of old users who have left the
company.



William L. Smith 
Systems Administrator 

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RE: 100% CPU when Synch

2001-12-19 Thread Dillon, Jeff

Preventing and not allowing are different indeed.  And I'll bet that your
site doesn't disable local virus scanning just because you block the POP
ports.

-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 6:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch


Not allowing POP access doesn't prevent the user from configuring it
anyway

If it doesn't, then you're preventing it wrong ;)

William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+
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-Original Message-
From: Dillon, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 3:13 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch


I believe we're all free to counter bad advice.  And I gave several
suggestions, here and offline.  I seriously doubt that there is a single AV
vendor who makes client- and server-end AV products who says they shouldn't
be used simultaneously.  Not allowing POP access doesn't prevent the user
from configuring it anyway--it's quite easy.  Please don't get upset when
you make a questionable blanket statement based upon reasons you can't
recall, and someone objects.

-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 4:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch


I'm not going to sit here and argue with you.  I will admit that I don't
always present things in a matter which explains every nit-picking detail.
I do know that it was explained to me some time ago exactly why we do not
enable client-based Exchange AV here and while I can't remember every single
detail, I do know there were valid reasons presented that stated why we
would not employ this feature.  I still pose the question to you of have you
spoken to your Exchange AV vendor and asked them about having both server
and client side scanning simultaneously?  You never answered me.  

I don't know why you feel a burning desire to prove your overwhelming
knowledge about this subject, and try and prove that I don't know what I am
talking about - don't know if you noticed, but I'm not the only one that
suggested disabling antivirus on the client.  Or were you too busy thinking
of a retort to my comments?  I did notice that disabling it had no effect.
I also made some other suggestions, or didn't you notice those either?  I
haven't seen any suggestions come out of your mouth (or keyboard, as it
were).

Your comment about a need for client-based Exchange AV is relevant when
dealing with non-Exchange POP3 access.  I agree with that.  We don't allow
POP access because of this, and other security reasons.  The MAPI scenario,
while acknowledged to by MS, I have never seen happen in a real-life
scenario.  Have you?  We still use MAPI-based scanning, and process a LOT of
mail, and this scenario has never happened to us.  Then again, if you buy
cheap AV software, you may be more at risk.  None of us here are too worried
about it.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Dillon, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 4:13 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch

The server and client don't fight for the messages--the client tells the
server to send a message, the server sends it (whether the server first
scans it or not is irrelevant) and the client then scans it.  The more CPU
cycles spent scanning by the client, the less cycles are available to
request the next message, reducing the server load.  As you've seen from the
follow-ups, disabling the local scanning has NO effect on the pegged client
CPU--there is something else afoot.  Your suggestion that scanning is
unwanted at both the client and server level is unwise on several counts,
starting with the scenario where the client has configured access to a
non-Exchange POP server.  And in the MAPI-scanning scenario, MS acknowledges
that a server under extreme load puts higher priority on delivery than
scanning, so unscanned messages can reach the client.  If there's nothing
scanning at the client level, you're in trouble, needlessly. 

-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 1:26 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch


It doesn't reduce the overhead because the Exchange-based is trying to scan
every piece of mail before it gets to the client.  In the case of a synch,
you are dumping massive amounts of e-mail to a local .ost file.  If you have
both Exchange and client AV software fighting to get to the same e-mails,
guaranteed the Exchange side is going to win, at the expense of the client.
It could also depend on the type of AV that is 

RE: Employee Departures

2001-12-19 Thread Lefkovics, William
Title: Message



I like 
this question because there really is no wrong answer.


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-Original Message-From: Martin Reilly 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 3:02 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee 
Departures
I try 
for 30 minutes. Export their mailbox to a PST as soon as they are out the door, 
then delete it.

  
  -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, 
  William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 December 2001 
  22:54To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee 
  Departures
  30 
  days.
  
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  A+
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  can fly?
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  -Original Message-From: William Smith 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 2:54 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Employee 
  Departures
  What is your general policy for the time between a 
  employee being let go and the removal of his mailbox? I just finished an audit 
  of the size of the disk usage on my exchange server and noticed that there are 
  at least 2GB of old users who have left the company.
  William L. Smith Systems Administrator List Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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RE: Employee Departures

2001-12-19 Thread Milton R. Dogg
Title: Message



I bet 
I could come up with something



--
Dr. Milton R. 
Dogg 
Of the Dogg 
Foundation


  
  -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, 
  William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
  December 19, 2001 3:16 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Employee Departures
  I 
  like this question because there really is no wrong 
answer.
  
  
  William Lefkovics, MCSE, 
  A+
  ---
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  can fly?
  http://www.airborne.net
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  -Original Message-From: Martin Reilly 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 
  3:02 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee 
  Departures
  I 
  try for 30 minutes. Export their mailbox to a PST as soon as they are out the 
  door, then delete it.
  

-Original Message-From: Lefkovics, 
William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 December 
2001 22:54To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
Employee Departures
30 
days.

William Lefkovics, MCSE, 
A+
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-Original Message-From: 
William Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, 
December 19, 2001 2:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: Employee Departures
What is your general policy for the time between 
a employee being let go and the removal of his mailbox? I just finished an 
audit of the size of the disk usage on my exchange server and noticed that 
there are at least 2GB of old users who have left the 
company.
William L. Smith Systems Administrator List Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
List Charter and FAQ at:
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RE: Employee Departures

2001-12-19 Thread Lefkovics, William
Title: Message



How do 
you handle inbound residual email to that SMTP address? 


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-Original Message-From: Martin Reilly 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 3:20 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee 
Departures
That's 
exactly how I used to handle it. However, getting supervisors to deal with the 
cleanup was always a problem. So we export to a PST, and copy that PST to 
the supervisors personal share where it occupies part of their fileshare quota. 
Extension to quota? Hahahahahaha!!! G

  
  -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, 
  William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 December 2001 
  22:59To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee 
  Departures
  Employee leaves.
  
  Mailbox accessis granted to supervisor.
  
  After 30 days mailbox is either:
  1) 
  deleted
  2) 
  balance archived to .pst
  
  SMTP 
  alias is then added to 'ex-employee' mailbox list of aliases for stray 
  emails.
  
  William Lefkovics, MCSE, 
  A+
  ---
  Why just ride, when you 
  can fly?
  http://www.airborne.net
  ---
  Rent this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  -Original Message-From: William Smith 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 2:58 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee 
  Departures
  30 
  days for the successor to go through the mailbox, then you blow it 
  away.
  
  I'd 
  love to be able to do that. Hopefully our policy will end up like 
  that.
  W
  

-Original Message-From: Lefkovics, 
William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
December 19, 2001 5:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: Employee Departures
30 
days.

William Lefkovics, MCSE, 
A+
---
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can fly?
http://www.airborne.net
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Rent this space: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-From: 
William Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, 
December 19, 2001 2:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: Employee Departures
What is your general policy for the time between 
a employee being let go and the removal of his mailbox? I just finished an 
audit of the size of the disk usage on my exchange server and noticed that 
there are at least 2GB of old users who have left the 
company.
William L. Smith Systems Administrator List Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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RE: 100% CPU when Synch

2001-12-19 Thread Keith Nelson

Michael,

So far no one has suggested this on the list so I think I will. Maybe
the install of outlook is corrupted (its probably a longshot). You might
want to try to uninstall Outlook/Office and the reinstall it.

Keith Nelson
Network Administrator
Orange County High School of the Arts
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(714) 560-0900 ex5910

-Original Message-
From: Dillon, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 3:19 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch


Preventing and not allowing are different indeed.  And I'll bet that
your
site doesn't disable local virus scanning just because you block the POP
ports.

-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 6:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch


Not allowing POP access doesn't prevent the user from configuring it
anyway

If it doesn't, then you're preventing it wrong ;)

William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+
---
Why just ride, when you can fly?
http://www.airborne.net 
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-Original Message-
From: Dillon, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 3:13 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch


I believe we're all free to counter bad advice.  And I gave several
suggestions, here and offline.  I seriously doubt that there is a single
AV
vendor who makes client- and server-end AV products who says they
shouldn't
be used simultaneously.  Not allowing POP access doesn't prevent the
user
from configuring it anyway--it's quite easy.  Please don't get upset
when
you make a questionable blanket statement based upon reasons you can't
recall, and someone objects.

-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 4:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch


I'm not going to sit here and argue with you.  I will admit that I don't
always present things in a matter which explains every nit-picking
detail.
I do know that it was explained to me some time ago exactly why we do
not
enable client-based Exchange AV here and while I can't remember every
single
detail, I do know there were valid reasons presented that stated why we
would not employ this feature.  I still pose the question to you of have
you
spoken to your Exchange AV vendor and asked them about having both
server
and client side scanning simultaneously?  You never answered me.  

I don't know why you feel a burning desire to prove your overwhelming
knowledge about this subject, and try and prove that I don't know what I
am
talking about - don't know if you noticed, but I'm not the only one that
suggested disabling antivirus on the client.  Or were you too busy
thinking
of a retort to my comments?  I did notice that disabling it had no
effect.
I also made some other suggestions, or didn't you notice those either?
I
haven't seen any suggestions come out of your mouth (or keyboard, as it
were).

Your comment about a need for client-based Exchange AV is relevant when
dealing with non-Exchange POP3 access.  I agree with that.  We don't
allow
POP access because of this, and other security reasons.  The MAPI
scenario,
while acknowledged to by MS, I have never seen happen in a real-life
scenario.  Have you?  We still use MAPI-based scanning, and process a
LOT of
mail, and this scenario has never happened to us.  Then again, if you
buy
cheap AV software, you may be more at risk.  None of us here are too
worried
about it.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Dillon, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 4:13 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch

The server and client don't fight for the messages--the client tells
the
server to send a message, the server sends it (whether the server first
scans it or not is irrelevant) and the client then scans it.  The more
CPU
cycles spent scanning by the client, the less cycles are available to
request the next message, reducing the server load.  As you've seen from
the
follow-ups, disabling the local scanning has NO effect on the pegged
client
CPU--there is something else afoot.  Your suggestion that scanning is
unwanted at both the client and server level is unwise on several
counts,
starting with the scenario where the client has configured access to a
non-Exchange POP server.  And in the MAPI-scanning scenario, MS
acknowledges
that a server under extreme load puts higher priority on delivery than
scanning, so unscanned messages can reach the client.  If there's
nothing
scanning at the client level, you're in trouble, needlessly. 

-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, 

RE: Employee Departures

2001-12-19 Thread Lefkovics, William
Title: Message



Barkin' up the wrong tree, Mr Dogg.

Oh 
look over there... is that a hydrant??


-Original Message-From: Milton R. Dogg 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 
3:27 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee 
Departures
I bet 
I could come up with something



--
Dr. Milton R. 
Dogg 
Of the Dogg 
Foundation


  
  -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, 
  William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
  December 19, 2001 3:16 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Employee Departures
  I 
  like this question because there really is no wrong 
answer.
  
  
  William Lefkovics, MCSE, 
  A+
  ---
  Why just ride, when you 
  can fly?
  http://www.airborne.net
  ---
  Rent this space: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  -Original Message-From: Martin Reilly 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 
  3:02 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee 
  Departures
  I 
  try for 30 minutes. Export their mailbox to a PST as soon as they are out the 
  door, then delete it.
  

-Original Message-From: Lefkovics, 
William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 December 
2001 22:54To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
Employee Departures
30 
days.

William Lefkovics, MCSE, 
A+
---
Why just ride, when you 
can fly?
http://www.airborne.net
---
Rent this space: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-From: 
William Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, 
December 19, 2001 2:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: Employee Departures
What is your general policy for the time between 
a employee being let go and the removal of his mailbox? I just finished an 
audit of the size of the disk usage on my exchange server and noticed that 
there are at least 2GB of old users who have left the 
company.
William L. Smith Systems Administrator List Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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RE: 100% CPU when Synch

2001-12-19 Thread Lefkovics, William

Block the POP ports, diable the POP protocol on the server, etc, etc, yes.

And we certainly do not disable local scanning so long as the user has
email, internet access, or a friggin' floppy drive for that matter.

-Original Message-
From: Dillon, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 3:19 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch


Preventing and not allowing are different indeed.  And I'll bet that your
site doesn't disable local virus scanning just because you block the POP
ports.

-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 6:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch


Not allowing POP access doesn't prevent the user from configuring it
anyway

If it doesn't, then you're preventing it wrong ;)

William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+
---
Why just ride, when you can fly?
http://www.airborne.net 
---
Rent this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Dillon, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 3:13 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch


I believe we're all free to counter bad advice.  And I gave several
suggestions, here and offline.  I seriously doubt that there is a single AV
vendor who makes client- and server-end AV products who says they shouldn't
be used simultaneously.  Not allowing POP access doesn't prevent the user
from configuring it anyway--it's quite easy.  Please don't get upset when
you make a questionable blanket statement based upon reasons you can't
recall, and someone objects.

-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 4:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch


I'm not going to sit here and argue with you.  I will admit that I don't
always present things in a matter which explains every nit-picking detail.
I do know that it was explained to me some time ago exactly why we do not
enable client-based Exchange AV here and while I can't remember every single
detail, I do know there were valid reasons presented that stated why we
would not employ this feature.  I still pose the question to you of have you
spoken to your Exchange AV vendor and asked them about having both server
and client side scanning simultaneously?  You never answered me.  

I don't know why you feel a burning desire to prove your overwhelming
knowledge about this subject, and try and prove that I don't know what I am
talking about - don't know if you noticed, but I'm not the only one that
suggested disabling antivirus on the client.  Or were you too busy thinking
of a retort to my comments?  I did notice that disabling it had no effect.
I also made some other suggestions, or didn't you notice those either?  I
haven't seen any suggestions come out of your mouth (or keyboard, as it
were).

Your comment about a need for client-based Exchange AV is relevant when
dealing with non-Exchange POP3 access.  I agree with that.  We don't allow
POP access because of this, and other security reasons.  The MAPI scenario,
while acknowledged to by MS, I have never seen happen in a real-life
scenario.  Have you?  We still use MAPI-based scanning, and process a LOT of
mail, and this scenario has never happened to us.  Then again, if you buy
cheap AV software, you may be more at risk.  None of us here are too worried
about it.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Dillon, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 4:13 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch

The server and client don't fight for the messages--the client tells the
server to send a message, the server sends it (whether the server first
scans it or not is irrelevant) and the client then scans it.  The more CPU
cycles spent scanning by the client, the less cycles are available to
request the next message, reducing the server load.  As you've seen from the
follow-ups, disabling the local scanning has NO effect on the pegged client
CPU--there is something else afoot.  Your suggestion that scanning is
unwanted at both the client and server level is unwise on several counts,
starting with the scenario where the client has configured access to a
non-Exchange POP server.  And in the MAPI-scanning scenario, MS acknowledges
that a server under extreme load puts higher priority on delivery than
scanning, so unscanned messages can reach the client.  If there's nothing
scanning at the client level, you're in trouble, needlessly. 

-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 1:26 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch


It doesn't reduce the overhead 

RE: Employee Departures

2001-12-19 Thread Martin Reilly
Title: Message



I 
don't. They left. Why should their email still be 
deliverable?

I 
appreciate that this model would not work for a lot of companies - probably most 
of them, in fact. The way we work with our customers though, it works well for 
us.

  
  -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, 
  William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 December 2001 
  23:22To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee 
  Departures
  How 
  do you handle inbound residual email to that SMTP address? 
  
  
  William Lefkovics, MCSE, 
  A+
  ---
  Why just ride, when you 
  can fly?
  http://www.airborne.net
  ---
  Rent this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  -Original Message-From: Martin Reilly 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 
  3:20 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee 
  Departures
  That's exactly how I used to handle it. However, getting supervisors to 
  deal with the cleanup was always a problem. So we export to a PST, and 
  copy that PST to the supervisors personal share where it occupies part of 
  their fileshare quota. Extension to quota? Hahahahahaha!!! 
  G
  

-Original Message-From: Lefkovics, 
William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 December 
2001 22:59To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
Employee Departures
Employee leaves.

Mailbox accessis granted to supervisor.

After 30 days mailbox is either:
1) 
deleted
2) 
balance archived to .pst

SMTP alias is then added to 'ex-employee' mailbox list of aliases for 
stray emails.

William Lefkovics, MCSE, 
A+
---
Why just ride, when you 
can fly?
http://www.airborne.net
---
Rent this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-From: William Smith 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 
2:58 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
Employee Departures
30 
days for the successor to go through the mailbox, then you blow it 
away.

I'd love to be able to do that. Hopefully our policy will end up like 
that.
W

  
  -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, 
  William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
  December 19, 2001 5:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Employee Departures
  30 days.
  
  William Lefkovics, 
  MCSE, A+
  ---
  Why just ride, when 
  you can fly?
  http://www.airborne.net
  ---
  Rent this space: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  -Original Message-From: 
  William Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, 
  December 19, 2001 2:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: Employee Departures
  What is your general policy for the time 
  between a employee being let go and the removal of his mailbox? I just 
  finished an audit of the size of the disk usage on my exchange server and 
  noticed that there are at least 2GB of old users who have left the 
  company.
  William L. Smith Systems Administrator List Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
List Charter and FAQ at:
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RE: Employee Departures

2001-12-19 Thread Lefkovics, William
Title: Message



I was 
just curious. We have some employees that get tonnes of email (there is a 
new perfmon counter MSExchangeIMS_EmailMass).

You 
don't even do the DL black hole thing?

William Lefkovics, MCSE, 
A+
---
Why just ride, when you can 
fly?
http://www.airborne.net
---
Rent this space: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-From: Martin Reilly 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 3:37 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee 
Departures
I 
don't. They left. Why should their email still be 
deliverable?

I 
appreciate that this model would not work for a lot of companies - probably most 
of them, in fact. The way we work with our customers though, it works well for 
us.

  
  -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, 
  William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 December 2001 
  23:22To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee 
  Departures
  How 
  do you handle inbound residual email to that SMTP address? 
  
  
  William Lefkovics, MCSE, 
  A+
  ---
  Why just ride, when you 
  can fly?
  http://www.airborne.net
  ---
  Rent this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  -Original Message-From: Martin Reilly 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 
  3:20 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee 
  Departures
  That's exactly how I used to handle it. However, getting supervisors to 
  deal with the cleanup was always a problem. So we export to a PST, and 
  copy that PST to the supervisors personal share where it occupies part of 
  their fileshare quota. Extension to quota? Hahahahahaha!!! 
  G
  

-Original Message-From: Lefkovics, 
William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 December 
2001 22:59To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
Employee Departures
Employee leaves.

Mailbox accessis granted to supervisor.

After 30 days mailbox is either:
1) 
deleted
2) 
balance archived to .pst

SMTP alias is then added to 'ex-employee' mailbox list of aliases for 
stray emails.

William Lefkovics, MCSE, 
A+
---
Why just ride, when you 
can fly?
http://www.airborne.net
---
Rent this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-From: William Smith 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 
2:58 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
Employee Departures
30 
days for the successor to go through the mailbox, then you blow it 
away.

I'd love to be able to do that. Hopefully our policy will end up like 
that.
W

  
  -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, 
  William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
  December 19, 2001 5:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Employee Departures
  30 days.
  
  William Lefkovics, 
  MCSE, A+
  ---
  Why just ride, when 
  you can fly?
  http://www.airborne.net
  ---
  Rent this space: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  -Original Message-From: 
  William Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, 
  December 19, 2001 2:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: Employee Departures
  What is your general policy for the time 
  between a employee being let go and the removal of his mailbox? I just 
  finished an audit of the size of the disk usage on my exchange server and 
  noticed that there are at least 2GB of old users who have left the 
  company.
  William L. Smith Systems Administrator List Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm





Re: 100% CPU when Synch

2001-12-19 Thread David N. Precht

Don't forget :
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q239938
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q247674


- Original Message - 
From: Keith Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 18:26 
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch


Michael,

So far no one has suggested this on the list so I think I will. Maybe
the install of outlook is corrupted (its probably a longshot). You might
want to try to uninstall Outlook/Office and the reinstall it.

Keith Nelson
Network Administrator
Orange County High School of the Arts
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(714) 560-0900 ex5910

-Original Message-
From: Dillon, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 3:19 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch


Preventing and not allowing are different indeed.  And I'll bet that
your
site doesn't disable local virus scanning just because you block the POP
ports.

-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 6:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch


Not allowing POP access doesn't prevent the user from configuring it
anyway

If it doesn't, then you're preventing it wrong ;)

William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+
---
Why just ride, when you can fly?
http://www.airborne.net 
---
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-Original Message-
From: Dillon, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 3:13 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch


I believe we're all free to counter bad advice.  And I gave several
suggestions, here and offline.  I seriously doubt that there is a single
AV
vendor who makes client- and server-end AV products who says they
shouldn't
be used simultaneously.  Not allowing POP access doesn't prevent the
user
from configuring it anyway--it's quite easy.  Please don't get upset
when
you make a questionable blanket statement based upon reasons you can't
recall, and someone objects.

-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 4:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch


I'm not going to sit here and argue with you.  I will admit that I don't
always present things in a matter which explains every nit-picking
detail.
I do know that it was explained to me some time ago exactly why we do
not
enable client-based Exchange AV here and while I can't remember every
single
detail, I do know there were valid reasons presented that stated why we
would not employ this feature.  I still pose the question to you of have
you
spoken to your Exchange AV vendor and asked them about having both
server
and client side scanning simultaneously?  You never answered me.  

I don't know why you feel a burning desire to prove your overwhelming
knowledge about this subject, and try and prove that I don't know what I
am
talking about - don't know if you noticed, but I'm not the only one that
suggested disabling antivirus on the client.  Or were you too busy
thinking
of a retort to my comments?  I did notice that disabling it had no
effect.
I also made some other suggestions, or didn't you notice those either?
I
haven't seen any suggestions come out of your mouth (or keyboard, as it
were).

Your comment about a need for client-based Exchange AV is relevant when
dealing with non-Exchange POP3 access.  I agree with that.  We don't
allow
POP access because of this, and other security reasons.  The MAPI
scenario,
while acknowledged to by MS, I have never seen happen in a real-life
scenario.  Have you?  We still use MAPI-based scanning, and process a
LOT of
mail, and this scenario has never happened to us.  Then again, if you
buy
cheap AV software, you may be more at risk.  None of us here are too
worried
about it.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Dillon, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 4:13 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 100% CPU when Synch

The server and client don't fight for the messages--the client tells
the
server to send a message, the server sends it (whether the server first
scans it or not is irrelevant) and the client then scans it.  The more
CPU
cycles spent scanning by the client, the less cycles are available to
request the next message, reducing the server load.  As you've seen from
the
follow-ups, disabling the local scanning has NO effect on the pegged
client
CPU--there is something else afoot.  Your suggestion that scanning is
unwanted at both the client and server level is unwise on several
counts,
starting with the scenario where the client has configured access to a
non-Exchange POP server.  And in the 

RE: Employee Departures

2001-12-19 Thread Lefkovics, William
Title: Message



Oh, 
and we get all the NDR's to an admin mailbox. Given the efficiency with 
which you dispose of old mailboxes, I suspect you do not look at NDR's 
perhaps


-Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 
3:38 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee 
Departures
I was 
just curious. We have some employees that get tonnes of email (there is a 
new perfmon counter MSExchangeIMS_EmailMass).

You 
don't even do the DL black hole thing?

William Lefkovics, MCSE, 
A+
---
Why just ride, when you can 
fly?
http://www.airborne.net
---
Rent this space: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-From: Martin Reilly 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 3:37 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee 
Departures
I 
don't. They left. Why should their email still be 
deliverable?

I 
appreciate that this model would not work for a lot of companies - probably most 
of them, in fact. The way we work with our customers though, it works well for 
us.

  
  -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, 
  William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 December 2001 
  23:22To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee 
  Departures
  How 
  do you handle inbound residual email to that SMTP address? 
  
  
  William Lefkovics, MCSE, 
  A+
  ---
  Why just ride, when you 
  can fly?
  http://www.airborne.net
  ---
  Rent this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  -Original Message-From: Martin Reilly 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 
  3:20 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee 
  Departures
  That's exactly how I used to handle it. However, getting supervisors to 
  deal with the cleanup was always a problem. So we export to a PST, and 
  copy that PST to the supervisors personal share where it occupies part of 
  their fileshare quota. Extension to quota? Hahahahahaha!!! 
  G
  

-Original Message-From: Lefkovics, 
William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 December 
2001 22:59To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
Employee Departures
Employee leaves.

Mailbox accessis granted to supervisor.

After 30 days mailbox is either:
1) 
deleted
2) 
balance archived to .pst

SMTP alias is then added to 'ex-employee' mailbox list of aliases for 
stray emails.

William Lefkovics, MCSE, 
A+
---
Why just ride, when you 
can fly?
http://www.airborne.net
---
Rent this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-From: William Smith 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 
2:58 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
Employee Departures
30 
days for the successor to go through the mailbox, then you blow it 
away.

I'd love to be able to do that. Hopefully our policy will end up like 
that.
W

  
  -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, 
  William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
  December 19, 2001 5:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Employee Departures
  30 days.
  
  William Lefkovics, 
  MCSE, A+
  ---
  Why just ride, when 
  you can fly?
  http://www.airborne.net
  ---
  Rent this space: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  -Original Message-From: 
  William Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, 
  December 19, 2001 2:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: Employee Departures
  What is your general policy for the time 
  between a employee being let go and the removal of his mailbox? I just 
  finished an audit of the size of the disk usage on my exchange server and 
  noticed that there are at least 2GB of old users who have left the 
  company.
  William L. Smith Systems Administrator 

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm





Re: Employee Departures- a question not exactly related

2001-12-19 Thread David N. Precht
Title: Message



Are you on Exchange ?


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Lefkovics, William 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin 
  Issues 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 18:16 
  
  Subject: RE: Employee Departures- a 
  question not exactly related
  
  Can 
  you set quota for a pst?
  
  William Lefkovics, MCSE, 
  A+
  ---
  Why just ride, when you 
  can fly?
  http://www.airborne.net
  ---
  Rent this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  -Original Message-From: CJ Hays 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 
  3:21 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee 
  Departures- a question not exactly related
  
  How 
  large should an admin set quotas for psts. Many people like them real big not 
  realizing the consequences for storage. 
  Thanks 
  
  Crossan W. 
  Hays, Jr. 
  Border Health 
  Initiative
  148 East 30th 
  Street Suite 
  Up-South
  National 
  City, CA 91950
  (619)791-2609
  Fax: 
  (619)791-2600
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: Lefkovics, 
  William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 2:59 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Employee 
  Departures
  
  Employee 
  leaves.
  
  Mailbox 
  accessis granted to supervisor.
  
  After 30 
  days mailbox is either:
  1) 
  deleted
  2) 
  balance archived to .pst
  
  SMTP 
  alias is then added to 'ex-employee' mailbox list of aliases for stray 
  emails.
  
  William Lefkovics, 
  MCSE, A+
  ---
  Why just ride, when 
  you can fly?
  http://www.airborne.net
  ---
  Rent 
  this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: William 
  Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 2:58 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Employee 
  Departures
  30 days 
  for the successor to go through the mailbox, then you blow it 
  away.
  
  I'd love 
  to be able to do that. Hopefully our policy will end up like 
  that.
  W
  -Original 
  Message-From: Lefkovics, 
  William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 5:54 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Employee 
  Departures
  30 
  days.
  
  William Lefkovics, 
  MCSE, A+
  ---
  Why just ride, when 
  you can fly?
  http://www.airborne.net
  ---
  Rent this space: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  -Original 
  Message-From: William 
  Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 2:54 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: Employee 
  Departures
  What is your general 
  policy for the time between a employee being let go and the removal of his 
  mailbox? I just finished an audit of the size of the disk usage on my exchange 
  server and noticed that there are at least 2GB of old users who have left the 
  company.
  
  William L. 
  Smith 
  Systems 
  Administrator 
  
  List Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
  List Charter 
  and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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RE: Employee Departures

2001-12-19 Thread Milton R. Dogg
Title: Message



So far 
I havereceived 577 for the day. Total blocked files for the last 7 days 
with my extension filtering is at 4,897 a total of about 1.9 
gig.





--
Dr. Milton R. 
Dogg 
Of the Dogg 
Foundation


  
  -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, 
  William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
  December 19, 2001 3:41 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Employee Departures
  Oh, 
  and we get all the NDR's to an admin mailbox. Given the efficiency with 
  which you dispose of old mailboxes, I suspect you do not look at NDR's 
  perhaps
  
  
  -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 
  2001 3:38 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  Employee Departures
  I 
  was just curious. We have some employees that get tonnes of email (there 
  is a new perfmon counter MSExchangeIMS_EmailMass).
  
  You 
  don't even do the DL black hole thing?
  
  William Lefkovics, MCSE, 
  A+
  ---
  Why just ride, when you 
  can fly?
  http://www.airborne.net
  ---
  Rent this space: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  -Original Message-From: Martin Reilly 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 
  3:37 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee 
  Departures
  I 
  don't. They left. Why should their email still be 
  deliverable?
  
  I 
  appreciate that this model would not work for a lot of companies - probably 
  most of them, in fact. The way we work with our customers though, it works 
  well for us.
  

-Original Message-From: Lefkovics, 
William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 December 
2001 23:22To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
Employee Departures
How do you handle inbound residual email to that SMTP address? 


William Lefkovics, MCSE, 
A+
---
Why just ride, when you 
can fly?
http://www.airborne.net
---
Rent this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-From: Martin Reilly 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 
3:20 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
Employee Departures
That's exactly how I used to handle it. However, getting supervisors 
to deal with the cleanup was always a problem. So we export to a PST, 
and copy that PST to the supervisors personal share where it occupies part 
of their fileshare quota. Extension to quota? Hahahahahaha!!! 
G

  
  -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, 
  William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 December 
  2001 22:59To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  Employee Departures
  Employee leaves.
  
  Mailbox accessis granted to supervisor.
  
  After 30 days mailbox is either:
  1) deleted
  2) balance archived to .pst
  
  SMTP alias is then added to 'ex-employee' mailbox list of aliases 
  for stray emails.
  
  William Lefkovics, 
  MCSE, A+
  ---
  Why just ride, when 
  you can fly?
  http://www.airborne.net
  ---
  Rent this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  -Original Message-From: William Smith 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 
  2:58 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  Employee Departures
  30 days for the successor to go through the mailbox, then you blow 
  it away.
  
  I'd love to be able to do that. Hopefully our policy will end up 
  like that.
  W
  

-Original Message-From: Lefkovics, 
William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
December 19, 2001 5:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: Employee Departures
30 days.

William Lefkovics, 
MCSE, A+
---
Why just ride, when 
you can fly?
http://www.airborne.net
---
Rent this space: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-From: 
William Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, 
December 19, 2001 2:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: Employee 
Departures
What is your general policy for the time 
between a employee being let go and the removal of his mailbox? I just 
finished an audit of the size of the disk usage on my exchange server 
and noticed that there are at least 2GB of old users who have left the 
company.
  

RE: Employee Departures- a question not exactly related

2001-12-19 Thread Lefkovics, William
Title: Message



No, we 
haven't gone public yet. We're thinking quarter3 2002.


-Original Message-From: David N. Precht 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 3:46 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Re: Employee 
Departures- a question not exactly related
Are you on Exchange ?


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Lefkovics, William 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin 
  Issues 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 18:16 
  
  Subject: RE: Employee Departures- a 
  question not exactly related
  
  Can 
  you set quota for a pst?
  
  William Lefkovics, MCSE, 
  A+
  ---
  Why just ride, when you 
  can fly?
  http://www.airborne.net
  ---
  Rent this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  -Original Message-From: CJ Hays 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 
  3:21 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee 
  Departures- a question not exactly related
  
  How 
  large should an admin set quotas for psts. Many people like them real big not 
  realizing the consequences for storage. 
  Thanks 
  
  Crossan W. 
  Hays, Jr. 
  Border Health 
  Initiative
  148 East 30th 
  Street Suite 
  Up-South
  National 
  City, CA 91950
  (619)791-2609
  Fax: 
  (619)791-2600
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: Lefkovics, 
  William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 2:59 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Employee 
  Departures
  
  Employee 
  leaves.
  
  Mailbox 
  accessis granted to supervisor.
  
  After 30 
  days mailbox is either:
  1) 
  deleted
  2) 
  balance archived to .pst
  
  SMTP 
  alias is then added to 'ex-employee' mailbox list of aliases for stray 
  emails.
  
  William Lefkovics, 
  MCSE, A+
  ---
  Why just ride, when 
  you can fly?
  http://www.airborne.net
  ---
  Rent 
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  Message-From: William 
  Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 2:58 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Employee 
  Departures
  30 days 
  for the successor to go through the mailbox, then you blow it 
  away.
  
  I'd love 
  to be able to do that. Hopefully our policy will end up like 
  that.
  W
  -Original 
  Message-From: Lefkovics, 
  William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 5:54 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: Employee 
  Departures
  30 
  days.
  
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  MCSE, A+
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  -Original 
  Message-From: William 
  Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 2:54 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: Employee 
  Departures
  What is your general 
  policy for the time between a employee being let go and the removal of his 
  mailbox? I just finished an audit of the size of the disk usage on my exchange 
  server and noticed that there are at least 2GB of old users who have left the 
  company.
  
  William L. 
  Smith 
  Systems 
  Administrator 
  
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  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
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RE: Employee Departures- a question not exactly related

2001-12-19 Thread Don Ely
Title: Message



No, 
he's on Computer Associates newly release email system. 
:P
D

"It was when I found out I could make mistakes that I knew I 
was on to something." -Ornette Coleman 

  
  -Original Message-From: David N. Precht 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 
  3:46 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Re: Employee 
  Departures- a question not exactly related
  Are you on Exchange ?
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Lefkovics, William 
To: MS-Exchange Admin 
Issues 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 
18:16 
Subject: RE: Employee Departures- a 
question not exactly related

Can you set quota for a pst?

William Lefkovics, MCSE, 
A+
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-Original Message-From: CJ Hays 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 
2001 3:21 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
Employee Departures- a question not exactly related

How 
large should an admin set quotas for psts. Many people like them real big not 
realizing the consequences for storage. Thanks 

Crossan W. 
Hays, Jr. 
Border 
Health Initiative
148 East 
30th Street Suite 
Up-South
National 
City, CA 91950
(619)791-2609
Fax: 
(619)791-2600
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-Original 
Message-From: 
Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 2:59 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: 
Employee Departures

Employee 
leaves.

Mailbox 
accessis granted to supervisor.

After 
30 days mailbox is either:
1) 
deleted
2) 
balance archived to .pst

SMTP 
alias is then added to 'ex-employee' mailbox list of aliases for stray 
emails.

William 
Lefkovics, MCSE, A+
---
Why just ride, 
when you can fly?
http://www.airborne.net
---
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this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original 
Message-From: William 
Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 2:58 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: 
Employee Departures
30 
days for the successor to go through the mailbox, then you blow it 
away.

I'd 
love to be able to do that. Hopefully our policy will end up like 
that.
W
-Original 
Message-From: 
Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 5:54 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: 
Employee Departures
30 
days.

William 
Lefkovics, MCSE, A+
---
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when you can fly?
http://www.airborne.net
---
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-Original 
Message-From: William 
Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 2:54 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: Employee 
Departures
What is your 
general policy for the time between a employee being let go and the removal 
of his mailbox? I just finished an audit of the size of the disk usage on my 
exchange server and noticed that there are at least 2GB of old users who 
have left the company.

William L. 
Smith 
Systems 
Administrator 

List Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
List Charter 
and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
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RE: Employee Departures

2001-12-19 Thread Martin Reilly
Title: Message



I 
don't look at them personally, but I make sure my helpdesk staff do on a regular 
basis. :)

I'll 
have to add that perfmon counter to my monitoring box. Thanks for the 
tip.

  
  -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, 
  William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 December 2001 
  23:41To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee 
  Departures
  Oh, 
  and we get all the NDR's to an admin mailbox. Given the efficiency with 
  which you dispose of old mailboxes, I suspect you do not look at NDR's 
  perhaps
  
  
  -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 
  2001 3:38 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  Employee Departures
  I 
  was just curious. We have some employees that get tonnes of email (there 
  is a new perfmon counter MSExchangeIMS_EmailMass).
  
  You 
  don't even do the DL black hole thing?
  
  William Lefkovics, MCSE, 
  A+
  ---
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  can fly?
  http://www.airborne.net
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  -Original Message-From: Martin Reilly 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 
  3:37 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee 
  Departures
  I 
  don't. They left. Why should their email still be 
  deliverable?
  
  I 
  appreciate that this model would not work for a lot of companies - probably 
  most of them, in fact. The way we work with our customers though, it works 
  well for us.
  

-Original Message-From: Lefkovics, 
William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 December 
2001 23:22To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
Employee Departures
How do you handle inbound residual email to that SMTP address? 


William Lefkovics, MCSE, 
A+
---
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can fly?
http://www.airborne.net
---
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-Original Message-From: Martin Reilly 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 
3:20 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
Employee Departures
That's exactly how I used to handle it. However, getting supervisors 
to deal with the cleanup was always a problem. So we export to a PST, 
and copy that PST to the supervisors personal share where it occupies part 
of their fileshare quota. Extension to quota? Hahahahahaha!!! 
G

  
  -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, 
  William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 December 
  2001 22:59To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  Employee Departures
  Employee leaves.
  
  Mailbox accessis granted to supervisor.
  
  After 30 days mailbox is either:
  1) deleted
  2) balance archived to .pst
  
  SMTP alias is then added to 'ex-employee' mailbox list of aliases 
  for stray emails.
  
  William Lefkovics, 
  MCSE, A+
  ---
  Why just ride, when 
  you can fly?
  http://www.airborne.net
  ---
  Rent this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  -Original Message-From: William Smith 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 
  2:58 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  Employee Departures
  30 days for the successor to go through the mailbox, then you blow 
  it away.
  
  I'd love to be able to do that. Hopefully our policy will end up 
  like that.
  W
  

-Original Message-From: Lefkovics, 
William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
December 19, 2001 5:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: Employee Departures
30 days.

William Lefkovics, 
MCSE, A+
---
Why just ride, when 
you can fly?
http://www.airborne.net
---
Rent this space: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-From: 
William Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, 
December 19, 2001 2:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: Employee 
Departures
What is your general policy for the time 
between a employee being let go and the removal of his mailbox? I just 
finished an audit of the size of the disk usage on my exchange server 
and noticed that there are at least 2GB of old users who have left the 
company.
William L. Smith Systems 

RE: Employee Departures- a question not exactly related

2001-12-19 Thread Don Ely
Title: Message



Yep! That's the one... It's backed up by 
ArcWreckIT...

D

"UNIX is an operating system, OS/2 is half an operating system, 
Windows is a shell, and DOS is a boot partition virus." -Peter H. Coffin 

  
  -Original Message-From: Milton R. Dogg 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 
  2001 3:51 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  Employee Departures- a question not exactly related
  You 
  mean EmaiIT ?
  
  
  
  --
  Dr. Milton R. 
  Dogg 
  Of the Dogg 
  Foundation
  
  

-Original Message-From: Don Ely 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 
2001 3:43 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
Employee Departures- a question not exactly related
No, he's on Computer Associates newly release email system. 
:P
D

"It was when I found out I could make mistakes that I knew 
I was on to something." -Ornette Coleman 

  
  -Original Message-From: David N. 
  Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 
  19, 2001 3:46 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
  Re: Employee Departures- a question not exactly 
  related
  Are you on Exchange ?
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Lefkovics, William 
To: MS-Exchange Admin 
Issues 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 
18:16 
Subject: RE: Employee Departures- a 
question not exactly related

Can you set quota for a pst?

William Lefkovics, 
MCSE, A+
---
Why just ride, when 
you can fly?
http://www.airborne.net
---
Rent this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-From: CJ Hays 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 
19, 2001 3:21 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: Employee Departures- a question not 
exactly related

How 
large should an admin set quotas for psts. Many people like them real big 
not realizing the consequences for storage. Thanks 

Crossan 
W. Hays, Jr. 
Border 
Health Initiative
148 
East 30th Street Suite 
Up-South
National 
City, CA 91950
(619)791-2609
Fax: 
(619)791-2600
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original 
Message-From: 
Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 
2:59 PMTo: MS-Exchange 
Admin IssuesSubject: 
RE: Employee Departures

Employee 
leaves.

Mailbox 
accessis granted to supervisor.

After 30 days 
mailbox is either:
1) 
deleted
2) balance 
archived to .pst

SMTP alias is 
then added to 'ex-employee' mailbox list of aliases for stray 
emails.

William 
Lefkovics, MCSE, A+
---
Why just ride, 
when you can fly?
http://www.airborne.net
---
Rent this 
space: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original 
Message-From: 
William Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 
2:58 PMTo: MS-Exchange 
Admin IssuesSubject: 
RE: Employee Departures
30 days for the 
successor to go through the mailbox, then you blow it 
away.

I'd love to be 
able to do that. Hopefully our policy will end up like 
that.
W
-Original 
Message-From: 
Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 
5:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange 
Admin IssuesSubject: 
RE: Employee Departures
30 
days.

William 
Lefkovics, MCSE, A+
---
Why just ride, 
when you can fly?
http://www.airborne.net
---
Rent this 
space: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original 
Message-From: 
William Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 
2:54 PMTo: MS-Exchange 
Admin IssuesSubject: 
Employee Departures
What is your 
general policy for the time between a employee being let go and the 
removal of his mailbox? I just finished an audit of the size of the disk 
usage on my exchange 

Re: Employee Departures

2001-12-19 Thread David N. Precht
Title: Message



What is everybody's policy for setting up 
disables/deletes of NT/Exchange accounts ?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Martin 
  Reilly 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin 
  Issues 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 18:51 
  
  Subject: RE: Employee Departures
  
  I 
  don't look at them personally, but I make sure my helpdesk staff do on a 
  regular basis. :)
  
  I'll 
  have to add that perfmon counter to my monitoring box. Thanks for the 
  tip.
  

-Original Message-From: Lefkovics, 
William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 December 
2001 23:41To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
Employee Departures
Oh, and we get all the NDR's to an admin mailbox. Given the 
efficiency with which you dispose of old mailboxes, I suspect you do not 
look at NDR's perhaps


-Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 
2001 3:38 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
Employee Departures
I 
was just curious. We have some employees that get tonnes of email 
(there is a new perfmon counter 
MSExchangeIMS_EmailMass).

You don't even do the DL black hole thing?

William Lefkovics, MCSE, 
A+
---
Why just ride, when you 
can fly?
http://www.airborne.net
---
Rent this space: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-From: Martin Reilly 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 
3:37 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
Employee Departures
I 
don't. They left. Why should their email still be 
deliverable?

I 
appreciate that this model would not work for a lot of companies - probably 
most of them, in fact. The way we work with our customers though, it works 
well for us.

  
  -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, 
  William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 December 
  2001 23:22To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  Employee Departures
  How do you handle inbound residual email to that SMTP 
  address? 
  
  William Lefkovics, 
  MCSE, A+
  ---
  Why just ride, when 
  you can fly?
  http://www.airborne.net
  ---
  Rent this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  -Original Message-From: Martin Reilly 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 
  2001 3:20 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  Employee Departures
  That's exactly how I used to handle it. However, getting 
  supervisors to deal with the cleanup was always a problem. So we export to 
  a PST, and copy that PST to the supervisors personal share where it 
  occupies part of their fileshare quota. Extension to quota? 
  Hahahahahaha!!! G
  

-Original Message-From: Lefkovics, 
William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 December 
2001 22:59To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
Employee Departures
Employee leaves.

Mailbox accessis granted to supervisor.

After 30 days mailbox is either:
1) deleted
2) balance archived to .pst

SMTP alias is then added to 'ex-employee' mailbox list of aliases 
for stray emails.

William Lefkovics, 
MCSE, A+
---
Why just ride, when 
you can fly?
http://www.airborne.net
---
Rent this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-From: William Smith 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 
2:58 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
Employee Departures
30 days for the successor to go through the mailbox, then you 
blow it away.

I'd love to be able to do that. Hopefully our policy will end up 
like that.
W

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 5:54 PMTo: 
  MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Employee 
  Departures
  30 days.
  
  William Lefkovics, 
  MCSE, A+
  ---
  Why just ride, 
  when you can fly?
  http://www.airborne.net
  ---
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