RE: Supporting Linux Clients

2008-04-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Now we just use Xen.



From: Joseph L. Casale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 11:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Supporting Linux Clients 

 For your *nix geeks, if they really don't want to use Windows for their
 desk top, there was an OS replacement for NT that was really an
 X-windows server (or client however you view that sort of mess) that
 made a Windows based desktop available for *nix boxes. You can control
 that type of environment all you want.
 
 I had it up in a test phase for our circuit provisioners that used Sun
 boxes and barely had room for their 3000 dollar Gateway boxes (this was
 back in the early 90's). We had Word, Outlook (for Exchange 4.0) and a
 couple of other office apps running on the X-windows server desktop.
 
 
 John H. Matteson, Jr.
 Systems Administrator/ITT Systems
 FOB Orgun-E
 Afghanistan
 DSN - 318 431 8001
 VoSIP - (308) 431 - 
 Iridium - 717.633.3823
 Roshain - 079 - 736 - 3832

John,
I am interested in looking at this, can you provide some details, like a
url?

Thanks!
jlc

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RE: Supporting Linux Clients

2008-04-02 Thread Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT)
Like I said, I tested it back in the 90's. I'm not sure it exists
anymore. William said he uses Xen. Whip up some google foo and it
might lead you there.  :-)

My tin can and a kite string communications out here are rather limited
today. 


John H. Matteson, Jr.
Systems Administrator/ITT Systems
FOB Orgun-E
Afghanistan
DSN - 318 431 8001
VoSIP - (308) 431 - 
Iridium - 717.633.3823
Roshain - 079 - 736 - 3832

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in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes among
you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the
Stars and Stripes.  Woodrow Wilson


-Original Message-
From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 10:05 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Supporting Linux Clients

 For your *nix geeks, if they really don't want to use Windows for 
 their desk top, there was an OS replacement for NT that was really an 
 X-windows server (or client however you view that sort of mess) that 
 made a Windows based desktop available for *nix boxes. You can control

 that type of environment all you want.
 
 I had it up in a test phase for our circuit provisioners that used Sun

 boxes and barely had room for their 3000 dollar Gateway boxes (this 
 was back in the early 90's). We had Word, Outlook (for Exchange 4.0) 
 and a couple of other office apps running on the X-windows server
desktop.
 
 
 John H. Matteson, Jr.
 Systems Administrator/ITT Systems
 FOB Orgun-E
 Afghanistan
 DSN - 318 431 8001
 VoSIP - (308) 431 - 
 Iridium - 717.633.3823
 Roshain - 079 - 736 - 3832

John,
I am interested in looking at this, can you provide some details, like a
url?

Thanks!
jlc


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RE: Supporting Linux Clients

2008-04-02 Thread Tom Strader
Sneaker-NET down John?


-Original Message-
From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 5:04 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Supporting Linux Clients

Like I said, I tested it back in the 90's. I'm not sure it exists
anymore. William said he uses Xen. Whip up some google foo and it
might lead you there.  :-)

My tin can and a kite string communications out here are rather limited
today. 


John H. Matteson, Jr.
Systems Administrator/ITT Systems
FOB Orgun-E
Afghanistan
DSN - 318 431 8001
VoSIP - (308) 431 - 
Iridium - 717.633.3823
Roshain - 079 - 736 - 3832

A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national group
in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes among
you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the
Stars and Stripes.  Woodrow Wilson


-Original Message-
From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 10:05 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Supporting Linux Clients

 For your *nix geeks, if they really don't want to use Windows for 
 their desk top, there was an OS replacement for NT that was really an 
 X-windows server (or client however you view that sort of mess) that 
 made a Windows based desktop available for *nix boxes. You can control

 that type of environment all you want.
 
 I had it up in a test phase for our circuit provisioners that used Sun

 boxes and barely had room for their 3000 dollar Gateway boxes (this 
 was back in the early 90's). We had Word, Outlook (for Exchange 4.0) 
 and a couple of other office apps running on the X-windows server
desktop.
 
 
 John H. Matteson, Jr.
 Systems Administrator/ITT Systems
 FOB Orgun-E
 Afghanistan
 DSN - 318 431 8001
 VoSIP - (308) 431 - 
 Iridium - 717.633.3823
 Roshain - 079 - 736 - 3832

John,
I am interested in looking at this, can you provide some details, like a
url?

Thanks!
jlc


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OT: humor... April 1 RFC

2008-04-02 Thread Maglinger, Paul
 Anyone seen this yet?
 

 http://www3.tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kaplan-sip-four-oh-00

 


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Re: Supporting Linux Clients

2008-04-02 Thread Kurt Buff
Well, as an alternative, we will be providing a TS machine in the
production area, and they can use rdesktop in their favorite unix
flavor to connect to that.

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th
SigBN (ITT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 For your *nix geeks, if they really don't want to use Windows for their
  desk top, there was an OS replacement for NT that was really an
  X-windows server (or client however you view that sort of mess) that
  made a Windows based desktop available for *nix boxes. You can control
  that type of environment all you want.

  I had it up in a test phase for our circuit provisioners that used Sun
  boxes and barely had room for their 3000 dollar Gateway boxes (this was
  back in the early 90's). We had Word, Outlook (for Exchange 4.0) and a
  couple of other office apps running on the X-windows server desktop.


  John H. Matteson, Jr.
  Systems Administrator/ITT Systems
  FOB Orgun-E
  Afghanistan
  DSN - 318 431 8001
  VoSIP - (308) 431 - 
  Iridium - 717.633.3823
  Roshain - 079 - 736 - 3832

  A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national group
  in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes among
  you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the
  Stars and Stripes.  Woodrow Wilson



  -Original Message-
  From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 4:57 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: Supporting Linux Clients

  Heh. Definitely not there yet. But I expect to have made great progress
  by this time next year.

  On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
   Good luck - I personally think you are going the right direction -
   we're  still trying to get there.
  
  
-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 3:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Supporting Linux Clients
  
  
   On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Joseph L. Casale  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   IMAP is out of the question, so I am stuck!

   IMAP is really the way to go for this kind of thing.  IMAP is the
  Internet standard for server-based mailbox access, same way that
   SMTPis the Internet standard for mail transport.  Any chance you
   can getthat restriction re-thought?

  -- Ben
  
  
   While I agree that IMAP is a good standard, I come at it from a
   different POV: Using IMAP denies individual use of certain features
   that might be important to the enterprise. Certainly calendaring,
   voting buttons, and some other goodies aren't going to be supported.
Joseph didn't state the customer culture or use case for his
   environment, so I can't comment on that, but in my $job, we have a few

   (literally - no more than 3) engineers who have been absolutely
   adamant about using Linux to access our Exchange installation.
  
Sucks to be them - they get the web interface. In point of fact, I'm

   still working towards a corporate environment where the standard tasks

   (email/word processing/spreadsheets/etc.) will be done on Windows
   machines, in a tightly controlled desktop environment where users are

   local users, not local administrators. It's a long row to hoe, but I'm

   starting to make headway. The flip side of that, though, is that the
   engineers will have two machines, one on the corporate domain, the
   other in a test/dev network that won't talk (except in tightly
   controlled ways) to the corporate network. They'll have their own lab

   manager for the things they do, though I'll probably still be on tap
   for whatever help is needed.
  
Bottom line - no IMAP for you!
  
Different POV and business requirements is all.
  
Kurt
  
  
  
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Issues with users using an additional mailbox

2008-04-02 Thread Evan Brastow
Hi,

 

Been a crazy weekend/week for me. 

 

Ever have a great idea that you KNOW will make everyone happy, and then
you end up practically being burned in effigy?

 

I created a new mailbox to replace a distribution group. The DL was
getting about 300 emails a day, and so all of our CS people were getting
their own copy of the email, filing it in their own folders, etc... It
wasn't fun.

 

So, Ev The Superhero steps in and decides it would be a good thing to
create a mailbox with the address of the DL (and change the address of
the DL to something that wouldn't be used.) So that's what I did. I
created a mailbox, gave everyone permission to the mailbox, went around
to their computers Monday morning and opened the mailbox within Outlook.
I even created search folders so that different customers' emails would
be automatically filed in the appropriate company folder. I didn't do
this with a public folder, because 1) I couldn't find a way to create
search folders within a public folder, and 2) I know public folders have
been removed from E2K7, should I ever go in that direction from my
current E2K3. I even found a utility that auto-fills the From field with
the name of the account, so they don't have to type it when they make a
new email or reply to one.

 

So I'm great, right? No, I'm on the verge of having my tires slashed,
re-inflated, and slashed yet again.

 

The first complaint was that they don't get pop-up notifications when an
email shows up in an inbox that is not their own. I'm onto a couple of
third party utility things that may help this.

 

But the really big issue is that there is no per-user read or unread
information on this mailbox. People are used to their unread mail being
in bold. Now, whenever someone, somewhere opens a piece of mail, it
looks like it's been read to everyone, and people are losing track of
what they have read and what they haven't.

 

Any suggestions on this last item? Do I deserve to have my tires
slashed, or is my heart in the right place? Okay, forget the heart... is
my BRAIN in the right place? I'm not trying to push this down anyone's
throat... I'm looking for something that would HELP  :)

 

Thanks,

 

Evan

 


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RE: Issues with users using an additional mailbox

2008-04-02 Thread Martin Blackstone
No good deed goes unpunished.

 

So, first off, did they have a problem with the way things used to be? If
not, then why change it?

People don't like change. Especially when they don't ask for it.

 

Second, can't you just go back to the old way of doing things? Doesn't seem
like it would take much work to give the addy back to the DL and be done
with it?

 

From: Evan Brastow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 8:29 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Issues with users using an additional mailbox

 

Hi,

 

Been a crazy weekend/week for me. 

 

Ever have a great idea that you KNOW will make everyone happy, and then you
end up practically being burned in effigy?

 

I created a new mailbox to replace a distribution group. The DL was getting
about 300 emails a day, and so all of our CS people were getting their own
copy of the email, filing it in their own folders, etc... It wasn't fun.

 

So, Ev The Superhero steps in and decides it would be a good thing to create
a mailbox with the address of the DL (and change the address of the DL to
something that wouldn't be used.) So that's what I did. I created a mailbox,
gave everyone permission to the mailbox, went around to their computers
Monday morning and opened the mailbox within Outlook. I even created search
folders so that different customers' emails would be automatically filed in
the appropriate company folder. I didn't do this with a public folder,
because 1) I couldn't find a way to create search folders within a public
folder, and 2) I know public folders have been removed from E2K7, should I
ever go in that direction from my current E2K3. I even found a utility that
auto-fills the From field with the name of the account, so they don't have
to type it when they make a new email or reply to one.

 

So I'm great, right? No, I'm on the verge of having my tires slashed,
re-inflated, and slashed yet again.

 

The first complaint was that they don't get pop-up notifications when an
email shows up in an inbox that is not their own. I'm onto a couple of third
party utility things that may help this.

 

But the really big issue is that there is no per-user read or unread
information on this mailbox. People are used to their unread mail being in
bold. Now, whenever someone, somewhere opens a piece of mail, it looks like
it's been read to everyone, and people are losing track of what they have
read and what they haven't.

 

Any suggestions on this last item? Do I deserve to have my tires slashed, or
is my heart in the right place? Okay, forget the heart... is my BRAIN in the
right place? I'm not trying to push this down anyone's throat... I'm looking
for something that would HELP  :)

 

Thanks,

 

Evan

 

 

 


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RE: Issues with users using an additional mailbox

2008-04-02 Thread Michael B. Smith
I would've used public folders. They didn't go away in Exchange 2007 and
they'll still be there in E14.

 

That being said, I agree with Martin: put it back!

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Evan Brastow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 11:29 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Issues with users using an additional mailbox

 

Hi,

 

Been a crazy weekend/week for me. 

 

Ever have a great idea that you KNOW will make everyone happy, and then you
end up practically being burned in effigy?

 

I created a new mailbox to replace a distribution group. The DL was getting
about 300 emails a day, and so all of our CS people were getting their own
copy of the email, filing it in their own folders, etc... It wasn't fun.

 

So, Ev The Superhero steps in and decides it would be a good thing to create
a mailbox with the address of the DL (and change the address of the DL to
something that wouldn't be used.) So that's what I did. I created a mailbox,
gave everyone permission to the mailbox, went around to their computers
Monday morning and opened the mailbox within Outlook. I even created search
folders so that different customers' emails would be automatically filed in
the appropriate company folder. I didn't do this with a public folder,
because 1) I couldn't find a way to create search folders within a public
folder, and 2) I know public folders have been removed from E2K7, should I
ever go in that direction from my current E2K3. I even found a utility that
auto-fills the From field with the name of the account, so they don't have
to type it when they make a new email or reply to one.

 

So I'm great, right? No, I'm on the verge of having my tires slashed,
re-inflated, and slashed yet again.

 

The first complaint was that they don't get pop-up notifications when an
email shows up in an inbox that is not their own. I'm onto a couple of third
party utility things that may help this.

 

But the really big issue is that there is no per-user read or unread
information on this mailbox. People are used to their unread mail being in
bold. Now, whenever someone, somewhere opens a piece of mail, it looks like
it's been read to everyone, and people are losing track of what they have
read and what they haven't.

 

Any suggestions on this last item? Do I deserve to have my tires slashed, or
is my heart in the right place? Okay, forget the heart... is my BRAIN in the
right place? I'm not trying to push this down anyone's throat... I'm looking
for something that would HELP  :)

 

Thanks,

 

Evan

 

 

 


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RE: Supporting Linux Clients

2008-04-02 Thread Joseph L. Casale
That's what I am doing now, Xen is an option but not w/o consequence. The host 
has to be booted into a Xen kernel, extra mgmt overhead. I suppose Rdesktop 
will have to be it.

I heard OpenNX can virtualize just an application and I hear there's an edition 
for windows. Don't know if its true, but I will have a looky!

Thanks!
jlc


From: Kurt Buff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 8:59 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Supporting Linux Clients

Well, as an alternative, we will be providing a TS machine in the
production area, and they can use rdesktop in their favorite unix
flavor to connect to that.

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th
SigBN (ITT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 For your *nix geeks, if they really don't want to use Windows for their
  desk top, there was an OS replacement for NT that was really an
  X-windows server (or client however you view that sort of mess) that
  made a Windows based desktop available for *nix boxes. You can control
  that type of environment all you want.

  I had it up in a test phase for our circuit provisioners that used Sun
  boxes and barely had room for their 3000 dollar Gateway boxes (this was
  back in the early 90's). We had Word, Outlook (for Exchange 4.0) and a
  couple of other office apps running on the X-windows server desktop.


  John H. Matteson, Jr.
  Systems Administrator/ITT Systems
  FOB Orgun-E
  Afghanistan
  DSN - 318 431 8001
  VoSIP - (308) 431 - 
  Iridium - 717.633.3823
  Roshain - 079 - 736 - 3832

  A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national group
  in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes among
  you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the
  Stars and Stripes.  Woodrow Wilson



  -Original Message-
  From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 4:57 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: Supporting Linux Clients

  Heh. Definitely not there yet. But I expect to have made great progress
  by this time next year.

  On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
   Good luck - I personally think you are going the right direction -
   we're  still trying to get there.
  
  
-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 3:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Supporting Linux Clients
  
  
   On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Joseph L. Casale  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   IMAP is out of the question, so I am stuck!

   IMAP is really the way to go for this kind of thing.  IMAP is the
  Internet standard for server-based mailbox access, same way that
   SMTPis the Internet standard for mail transport.  Any chance you
   can getthat restriction re-thought?

  -- Ben
  
  
   While I agree that IMAP is a good standard, I come at it from a
   different POV: Using IMAP denies individual use of certain features
   that might be important to the enterprise. Certainly calendaring,
   voting buttons, and some other goodies aren't going to be supported.
Joseph didn't state the customer culture or use case for his
   environment, so I can't comment on that, but in my $job, we have a few

   (literally - no more than 3) engineers who have been absolutely
   adamant about using Linux to access our Exchange installation.
  
Sucks to be them - they get the web interface. In point of fact, I'm

   still working towards a corporate environment where the standard tasks

   (email/word processing/spreadsheets/etc.) will be done on Windows
   machines, in a tightly controlled desktop environment where users are

   local users, not local administrators. It's a long row to hoe, but I'm

   starting to make headway. The flip side of that, though, is that the
   engineers will have two machines, one on the corporate domain, the
   other in a test/dev network that won't talk (except in tightly
   controlled ways) to the corporate network. They'll have their own lab

   manager for the things they do, though I'll probably still be on tap
   for whatever help is needed.
  
Bottom line - no IMAP for you!
  
Different POV and business requirements is all.
  
Kurt
  
  
  
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Cluster setup

2008-04-02 Thread Dennis Rogov
   Hi Guys 
 
i was just in the proccess to start to setup my cluster and came to
halt. I currently have one mail server which is Windows 03 Standard
Server Edition with Exchange 
 
03 Standard Edition. According to the cluster documenations  i need to
have Windows 03 Enterprise or Datacenter edition and Exchange 03
advanced edition. My 
 
window of downtime for mail environment is 30 minutes to 1 hour. I am
consdering duplicating the new server with the exsisting server and
disconnect the current mail 
 
server so it could be updated. I am just wondering what potentials
issues that i can run into with the new live server. Our current mail
server commuicates to our 
 
blackberry server and our spam filtering folder. 
 
Dr
 
 
Senior Network Analyst 
THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 

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Re: Issues with users using an additional mailbox

2008-04-02 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
Everything you've listed are the typical issues that happen with a
resource mailbox.  If the users know that's what they will have to deal
with then they should be ok.  Otherwise, as has already been stated, put it
back the way it was.

On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Michael B. Smith 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I would've used public folders. They didn't go away in Exchange 2007 and
 they'll still be there in E14.



 That being said, I agree with Martin: put it back!



 Regards,



 Michael B. Smith

 MCSE/Exchange MVP

 http://TheEssentialExchange.com



 *From:* Evan Brastow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 02, 2008 11:29 AM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Issues with users using an additional mailbox



 Hi,



 Been a crazy weekend/week for me.



 Ever have a great idea that you KNOW will make everyone happy, and then
 you end up practically being burned in effigy?



 I created a new mailbox to replace a distribution group. The DL was
 getting about 300 emails a day, and so all of our CS people were getting
 their own copy of the email, filing it in their own folders, etc... It
 wasn't fun.



 So, Ev The Superhero steps in and decides it would be a good thing to
 create a mailbox with the address of the DL (and change the address of the
 DL to something that wouldn't be used.) So that's what I did. I created a
 mailbox, gave everyone permission to the mailbox, went around to their
 computers Monday morning and opened the mailbox within Outlook. I even
 created search folders so that different customers' emails would be
 automatically filed in the appropriate company folder. I didn't do this with
 a public folder, because 1) I couldn't find a way to create search folders
 within a public folder, and 2) I know public folders have been removed from
 E2K7, should I ever go in that direction from my current E2K3. I even found
 a utility that auto-fills the From field with the name of the account, so
 they don't have to type it when they make a new email or reply to one.



 So I'm great, right? No, I'm on the verge of having my tires slashed,
 re-inflated, and slashed yet again.



 The first complaint was that they don't get pop-up notifications when an
 email shows up in an inbox that is not their own. I'm onto a couple of third
 party utility things that may help this.



 But the really big issue is that there is no per-user read or unread
 information on this mailbox. People are used to their unread mail being in
 bold. Now, whenever someone, somewhere opens a piece of mail, it looks like
 it's been read to everyone, and people are losing track of what they have
 read and what they haven't.



 Any suggestions on this last item? Do I deserve to have my tires slashed,
 or is my heart in the right place? Okay, forget the heart... is my BRAIN in
 the right place? I'm not trying to push this down anyone's throat... I'm
 looking for something that would HELP  :)



 Thanks,



 Evan












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logging for edge synchronization?

2008-04-02 Thread Angie Urtel
Is there such a thing as a log file or some way for me to get more
information on why my edge synchronization is not staying synched?  I
thought it might show up in the App log, but no such luck.  Ops Mgr is
alerting on it, so that's how I know it isn't working as expected.  I can
start the synch manually, but I'd rather find the source of the problem.
Not having much luck with The Google.

Name: gatewayServer
LeaseHolder : transportServer
LeaseType   : Option
ConnectionResult: Succeeded
FailureDetail   :
LeaseExpiry : 4/2/2008 2:10:34 PM
LastSynchronized: 4/2/2008 1:10:34 PM
CredentialStatus: Synchronized
TransportServerStatus   : Synchronized
TransportConfigStatus   : Synchronized
AcceptedDomainStatus: Synchronized
SendConnectorStatus : Synchronized
MessageClassificationStatus : Synchronized
RecipientStatus : *NotSynchronized*

I don't know if this is a new occurrence or if it has always been the case.

Thanks,
Angie

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RE: logging for edge synchronization?

2008-04-02 Thread Robinson, Chuck
You can turn up logging on that process.
In the EMS type Set-eventloglevel MSExchange EdgeSync\Synchronization -Level 
Expert

For a list of all Processes with Configurable Event Logging Levels see the 
following link.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb201661(EXCHG.80).aspx

Typically you can do a Set-eventloglevel and it will give you all the current 
logging levels of all processes.


Chuck Robinson, MCSE: Messaging, VCP
Senior Practice Consultant
EMC Global Services, Microsoft Practice
tel 732-321-3644 xt.45, mobile 973-865-0394, fax 732-321-6855
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.emc.com/mspracticehttp://www.emc.com/

From: Angie Urtel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 2:35 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: logging for edge synchronization?

Is there such a thing as a log file or some way for me to get more information 
on why my edge synchronization is not staying synched?  I thought it might show 
up in the App log, but no such luck.  Ops Mgr is alerting on it, so that's how 
I know it isn't working as expected.  I can start the synch manually, but I'd 
rather find the source of the problem.  Not having much luck with The Google.

Name: gatewayServer
LeaseHolder : transportServer
LeaseType   : Option
ConnectionResult: Succeeded
FailureDetail   :
LeaseExpiry : 4/2/2008 2:10:34 PM
LastSynchronized: 4/2/2008 1:10:34 PM
CredentialStatus: Synchronized
TransportServerStatus   : Synchronized
TransportConfigStatus   : Synchronized
AcceptedDomainStatus: Synchronized
SendConnectorStatus : Synchronized
MessageClassificationStatus : Synchronized
RecipientStatus : NotSynchronized

I don't know if this is a new occurrence or if it has always been the case.

Thanks,
Angie



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Blackberries or Windows CE phones

2008-04-02 Thread Miguel Gonzalez
Hi,

 We currently have a SBS 2003 server running Exchange
2003. We are planning to migrate to Exchange 2007,
however, I don't have a timeline for that migration
yet.

 In the meantime, I've been asked about phones and the
costs for making them to work with our current
Exchange server.

 My assumption is that Blackberries require a
Blackberry server and apart of the cost, could be a
headache.

 My guess is that Windows CE is probably better suited
to work together with Exchange. Do We need something
special to make it to run?

 Any other recommendations? I want as less headaches
as possible :)

 Thanks,

 Miguel


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RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

2008-04-02 Thread Jeremy Phillips
If you want the least headaches possible, then run Windows Mobile with 
ActiveSync, which should work fine with Exchange 2003. Blackberry does, in 
fact, require another server.

Thanks,

Jeremy Phillips
Senior Messaging Engineer
Azaleos Corporation


-Original Message-
From: Miguel Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

Hi,

 We currently have a SBS 2003 server running Exchange
2003. We are planning to migrate to Exchange 2007,
however, I don't have a timeline for that migration
yet.

 In the meantime, I've been asked about phones and the
costs for making them to work with our current
Exchange server.

 My assumption is that Blackberries require a
Blackberry server and apart of the cost, could be a
headache.

 My guess is that Windows CE is probably better suited
to work together with Exchange. Do We need something
special to make it to run?

 Any other recommendations? I want as less headaches
as possible :)

 Thanks,

 Miguel


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RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

2008-04-02 Thread John Cook
It really depends on several factors - how many users? Firewall configuration? 
Actual need - just incredible e-mail or do you actually need all of the other 
bells and whistles? Yes BES costs a little and requires a server but once its 
set up you can basically forget about it until you need to add another user or 
something of that nature. I consider the BB far superior when it comes to 
providing e-mail for ID10Ts on the road. I have it installed on an 8 yr old 
repurposed Dell workstation with no issues. YMMV

John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 3:59 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

If you want the least headaches possible, then run Windows Mobile with 
ActiveSync, which should work fine with Exchange 2003. Blackberry does, in 
fact, require another server.

Thanks,

Jeremy Phillips
Senior Messaging Engineer
Azaleos Corporation


-Original Message-
From: Miguel Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

Hi,

 We currently have a SBS 2003 server running Exchange
2003. We are planning to migrate to Exchange 2007,
however, I don't have a timeline for that migration
yet.

 In the meantime, I've been asked about phones and the
costs for making them to work with our current
Exchange server.

 My assumption is that Blackberries require a
Blackberry server and apart of the cost, could be a
headache.

 My guess is that Windows CE is probably better suited
to work together with Exchange. Do We need something
special to make it to run?

 Any other recommendations? I want as less headaches
as possible :)

 Thanks,

 Miguel


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RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

2008-04-02 Thread Miguel Gonzalez
I think right now they are thinking of two users, I
don't know if the user base will grow in the future (I
guess).

We have ISA 2004 server and thinking of migrating to
ISA 2006.

They need email and calendaring.

BB server needs to be installed in a different
machine? If so, It requires a Windows server machine?
What is the range or pricing of BB Server?

Thanks,

Miguel


--- John Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

 It really depends on several factors - how many
 users? Firewall configuration? Actual need - just
 incredible e-mail or do you actually need all of the
 other bells and whistles? Yes BES costs a little and
 requires a server but once its set up you can
 basically forget about it until you need to add
 another user or something of that nature. I consider
 the BB far superior when it comes to providing
 e-mail for ID10Ts on the road. I have it installed
 on an 8 yr old repurposed Dell workstation with no
 issues. YMMV
 
 John W. Cook
 System Administrator
 Partnership For Strong Families
 315 SE 2nd Ave
 Gainesville, Fl 32601
 Office (352) 393-2741 x320
 Cell (352) 215-6944
 Fax (352) 393-2746
 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jeremy Phillips
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 3:59 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones
 
 If you want the least headaches possible, then run
 Windows Mobile with ActiveSync, which should work
 fine with Exchange 2003. Blackberry does, in fact,
 require another server.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jeremy Phillips
 Senior Messaging Engineer
 Azaleos Corporation
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Miguel Gonzalez
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:54 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Blackberries or Windows CE phones
 
 Hi,
 
  We currently have a SBS 2003 server running
 Exchange
 2003. We are planning to migrate to Exchange 2007,
 however, I don't have a timeline for that migration
 yet.
 
  In the meantime, I've been asked about phones and
 the
 costs for making them to work with our current
 Exchange server.
 
  My assumption is that Blackberries require a
 Blackberry server and apart of the cost, could be a
 headache.
 
  My guess is that Windows CE is probably better
 suited
 to work together with Exchange. Do We need something
 special to make it to run?
 
  Any other recommendations? I want as less headaches
 as possible :)
 
  Thanks,
 
  Miguel
 
 
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RE: Cluster setup

2008-04-02 Thread Dennis Rogov
It doesnt seem that i am going to get approved for Enterprise
Exchange and Windows servers. What options do i have in setting up 2
exchange server standard and 2 windows standard server. My current
solution would be to build a replica keep it offline and bring it online
in case the main mail server was to go down.
 
 
 
Dennis Rogov
Senior Network Analyst 
THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 

379 thornall street, 12th floor  | edison, nj 08837 usa

Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277

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From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Cluster setup


   Hi Guys 
 
i was just in the proccess to start to setup my cluster and came to
halt. I currently have one mail server which is Windows 03 Standard
Server Edition with Exchange 
 
03 Standard Edition. According to the cluster documenations  i need to
have Windows 03 Enterprise or Datacenter edition and Exchange 03
advanced edition. My 
 
window of downtime for mail environment is 30 minutes to 1 hour. I am
consdering duplicating the new server with the exsisting server and
disconnect the current mail 
 
server so it could be updated. I am just wondering what potentials
issues that i can run into with the new live server. Our current mail
server commuicates to our 
 
blackberry server and our spam filtering folder. 
 
Dr
 
 
Senior Network Analyst 
THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 

379 thornall street, 12th floor  | edison, nj 08837 usa

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RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

2008-04-02 Thread Sam Cayze
I agree, Windows Mobile will get you there, and fast, but it's a little 
cumbersome and feature-less.  Read some of my posts in the archives about 
Windows Mobile in a thread titled SmartPhones...To sum it up, if you go 
Windows Mobile, look for devices that are version 6.1

I would recommend BB or a product called Good Messaging (Runs on most all phone 
platforms).  Both are set and forget.

Both also have hosted services, if you don't feel like running another server.  
But, like John said, the hardware requirements are minimal. 

FYI, the costs for the license and support of Good Messaging for our business 
is a couple bucks a month per cell phone line.   




-Original Message-
From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 3:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

It really depends on several factors - how many users? Firewall configuration? 
Actual need - just incredible e-mail or do you actually need all of the other 
bells and whistles? Yes BES costs a little and requires a server but once its 
set up you can basically forget about it until you need to add another user or 
something of that nature. I consider the BB far superior when it comes to 
providing e-mail for ID10Ts on the road. I have it installed on an 8 yr old 
repurposed Dell workstation with no issues. YMMV

John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 3:59 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

If you want the least headaches possible, then run Windows Mobile with 
ActiveSync, which should work fine with Exchange 2003. Blackberry does, in 
fact, require another server.

Thanks,

Jeremy Phillips
Senior Messaging Engineer
Azaleos Corporation


-Original Message-
From: Miguel Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

Hi,

 We currently have a SBS 2003 server running Exchange
2003. We are planning to migrate to Exchange 2007,
however, I don't have a timeline for that migration
yet.

 In the meantime, I've been asked about phones and the
costs for making them to work with our current
Exchange server.

 My assumption is that Blackberries require a
Blackberry server and apart of the cost, could be a
headache.

 My guess is that Windows CE is probably better suited
to work together with Exchange. Do We need something
special to make it to run?

 Any other recommendations? I want as less headaches
as possible :)

 Thanks,

 Miguel


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RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

2008-04-02 Thread John Cook
You'll have to go to the RIM site for pricing but you may find other options 
there. Yes BES SHOULD be installed on another server.

John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Miguel Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 4:31 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

I think right now they are thinking of two users, I
don't know if the user base will grow in the future (I
guess).

We have ISA 2004 server and thinking of migrating to
ISA 2006.

They need email and calendaring.

BB server needs to be installed in a different
machine? If so, It requires a Windows server machine?
What is the range or pricing of BB Server?

Thanks,

Miguel


--- John Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

 It really depends on several factors - how many
 users? Firewall configuration? Actual need - just
 incredible e-mail or do you actually need all of the
 other bells and whistles? Yes BES costs a little and
 requires a server but once its set up you can
 basically forget about it until you need to add
 another user or something of that nature. I consider
 the BB far superior when it comes to providing
 e-mail for ID10Ts on the road. I have it installed
 on an 8 yr old repurposed Dell workstation with no
 issues. YMMV

 John W. Cook
 System Administrator
 Partnership For Strong Families
 315 SE 2nd Ave
 Gainesville, Fl 32601
 Office (352) 393-2741 x320
 Cell (352) 215-6944
 Fax (352) 393-2746
 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


 -Original Message-
 From: Jeremy Phillips
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 3:59 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

 If you want the least headaches possible, then run
 Windows Mobile with ActiveSync, which should work
 fine with Exchange 2003. Blackberry does, in fact,
 require another server.

 Thanks,

 Jeremy Phillips
 Senior Messaging Engineer
 Azaleos Corporation


 -Original Message-
 From: Miguel Gonzalez
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:54 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

 Hi,

  We currently have a SBS 2003 server running
 Exchange
 2003. We are planning to migrate to Exchange 2007,
 however, I don't have a timeline for that migration
 yet.

  In the meantime, I've been asked about phones and
 the
 costs for making them to work with our current
 Exchange server.

  My assumption is that Blackberries require a
 Blackberry server and apart of the cost, could be a
 headache.

  My guess is that Windows CE is probably better
 suited
 to work together with Exchange. Do We need something
 special to make it to run?

  Any other recommendations? I want as less headaches
 as possible :)

  Thanks,

  Miguel


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Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds

2008-04-02 Thread Tom Strader

Has anyone had the experience of Outlook freezing for about 3-05 seconds
just before a piece of email is delivered?

I've disabled ESET 3.0 thinking that was causing the delay...it wasn't.

I'm out of Google fu.  Any help appreciated!

TIA,
Tom
 

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RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

2008-04-02 Thread Kevin Miller
Define feature-less ??

-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:35 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

I agree, Windows Mobile will get you there, and fast, but it's a little 
cumbersome and feature-less.  Read some of my posts in the archives about 
Windows Mobile in a thread titled SmartPhones...To sum it up, if you go 
Windows Mobile, look for devices that are version 6.1

I would recommend BB or a product called Good Messaging (Runs on most all phone 
platforms).  Both are set and forget.

Both also have hosted services, if you don't feel like running another server.  
But, like John said, the hardware requirements are minimal.

FYI, the costs for the license and support of Good Messaging for our business 
is a couple bucks a month per cell phone line.




-Original Message-
From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 3:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

It really depends on several factors - how many users? Firewall configuration? 
Actual need - just incredible e-mail or do you actually need all of the other 
bells and whistles? Yes BES costs a little and requires a server but once its 
set up you can basically forget about it until you need to add another user or 
something of that nature. I consider the BB far superior when it comes to 
providing e-mail for ID10Ts on the road. I have it installed on an 8 yr old 
repurposed Dell workstation with no issues. YMMV

John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 3:59 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

If you want the least headaches possible, then run Windows Mobile with 
ActiveSync, which should work fine with Exchange 2003. Blackberry does, in 
fact, require another server.

Thanks,

Jeremy Phillips
Senior Messaging Engineer
Azaleos Corporation


-Original Message-
From: Miguel Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

Hi,

 We currently have a SBS 2003 server running Exchange
2003. We are planning to migrate to Exchange 2007,
however, I don't have a timeline for that migration
yet.

 In the meantime, I've been asked about phones and the
costs for making them to work with our current
Exchange server.

 My assumption is that Blackberries require a
Blackberry server and apart of the cost, could be a
headache.

 My guess is that Windows CE is probably better suited
to work together with Exchange. Do We need something
special to make it to run?

 Any other recommendations? I want as less headaches
as possible :)

 Thanks,

 Miguel


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RE: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds

2008-04-02 Thread Kevin Miller
How many items do you have in your inbox / how many rules do you have ? what 
version of outlook / what version of exchange / what other things do you have 
installed with outlook / are you in cached mode / does it do this with every 
message.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds


Has anyone had the experience of Outlook freezing for about 3-05 seconds
just before a piece of email is delivered?

I've disabled ESET 3.0 thinking that was causing the delay...it wasn't.

I'm out of Google fu.  Any help appreciated!

TIA,
Tom


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Re: NT Backup Status

2008-04-02 Thread James Kerr

Sorry, wrong list, need sleep :-/


- Original Message - 
From: James Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 4:47 PM
Subject: NT Backup Status


Anyway to get an email using NT Backup in Server 2003 when a scheduled job 
using the Scheduled Tasks fails? I want an email sent to me if the backup 
has a problem.


James

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RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

2008-04-02 Thread Amer Karim
For two users, I would recommend you look at RIM's Blackberry Professional
Software - http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/professional/.

It includes one CAL with the free download and you can purchase additional
licenses as you need them for up to 30.  I have it installed and running on
a couple of SBS 2003 servers, for less than 10 BB users; I would suggest
that you install it on a separate machine for more than that though that
would also depend on the load on your server.  Either way, you can download
the software and try it out for one of your users or testing purposes; if
you like it, you can purchase the additional CAL.

Regards,
Amer Karim
Nautilis Information Systems
-Original Message-
From: Miguel Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: April-02-08 4:31 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

I think right now they are thinking of two users, I
don't know if the user base will grow in the future (I
guess).

We have ISA 2004 server and thinking of migrating to
ISA 2006.

They need email and calendaring.

BB server needs to be installed in a different
machine? If so, It requires a Windows server machine?
What is the range or pricing of BB Server?

Thanks,

Miguel


--- John Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

 It really depends on several factors - how many
 users? Firewall configuration? Actual need - just
 incredible e-mail or do you actually need all of the
 other bells and whistles? Yes BES costs a little and
 requires a server but once its set up you can
 basically forget about it until you need to add
 another user or something of that nature. I consider
 the BB far superior when it comes to providing
 e-mail for ID10Ts on the road. I have it installed
 on an 8 yr old repurposed Dell workstation with no
 issues. YMMV
 
 John W. Cook
 System Administrator
 Partnership For Strong Families
 315 SE 2nd Ave
 Gainesville, Fl 32601
 Office (352) 393-2741 x320
 Cell (352) 215-6944
 Fax (352) 393-2746
 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jeremy Phillips
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 3:59 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones
 
 If you want the least headaches possible, then run
 Windows Mobile with ActiveSync, which should work
 fine with Exchange 2003. Blackberry does, in fact,
 require another server.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jeremy Phillips
 Senior Messaging Engineer
 Azaleos Corporation
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Miguel Gonzalez
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:54 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Blackberries or Windows CE phones
 
 Hi,
 
  We currently have a SBS 2003 server running
 Exchange
 2003. We are planning to migrate to Exchange 2007,
 however, I don't have a timeline for that migration
 yet.
 
  In the meantime, I've been asked about phones and
 the
 costs for making them to work with our current
 Exchange server.
 
  My assumption is that Blackberries require a
 Blackberry server and apart of the cost, could be a
 headache.
 
  My guess is that Windows CE is probably better
 suited
 to work together with Exchange. Do We need something
 special to make it to run?
 
  Any other recommendations? I want as less headaches
 as possible :)
 
  Thanks,
 
  Miguel
 
 
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RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

2008-04-02 Thread Barsodi.John
Your carrier might also throw BES in for free with the purchase of a certain 
number of devices.  Probably the best way to go.  Or you could go BES Express 
or Professional for up to 15 users, 20 if you pay for it.



-Original Message-
From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

You'll have to go to the RIM site for pricing but you may find other options 
there. Yes BES SHOULD be installed on another server.

John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Miguel Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 4:31 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

I think right now they are thinking of two users, I
don't know if the user base will grow in the future (I
guess).

We have ISA 2004 server and thinking of migrating to
ISA 2006.

They need email and calendaring.

BB server needs to be installed in a different
machine? If so, It requires a Windows server machine?
What is the range or pricing of BB Server?

Thanks,

Miguel


--- John Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

 It really depends on several factors - how many
 users? Firewall configuration? Actual need - just
 incredible e-mail or do you actually need all of the
 other bells and whistles? Yes BES costs a little and
 requires a server but once its set up you can
 basically forget about it until you need to add
 another user or something of that nature. I consider
 the BB far superior when it comes to providing
 e-mail for ID10Ts on the road. I have it installed
 on an 8 yr old repurposed Dell workstation with no
 issues. YMMV

 John W. Cook
 System Administrator
 Partnership For Strong Families
 315 SE 2nd Ave
 Gainesville, Fl 32601
 Office (352) 393-2741 x320
 Cell (352) 215-6944
 Fax (352) 393-2746
 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


 -Original Message-
 From: Jeremy Phillips
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 3:59 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

 If you want the least headaches possible, then run
 Windows Mobile with ActiveSync, which should work
 fine with Exchange 2003. Blackberry does, in fact,
 require another server.

 Thanks,

 Jeremy Phillips
 Senior Messaging Engineer
 Azaleos Corporation


 -Original Message-
 From: Miguel Gonzalez
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:54 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

 Hi,

  We currently have a SBS 2003 server running
 Exchange
 2003. We are planning to migrate to Exchange 2007,
 however, I don't have a timeline for that migration
 yet.

  In the meantime, I've been asked about phones and
 the
 costs for making them to work with our current
 Exchange server.

  My assumption is that Blackberries require a
 Blackberry server and apart of the cost, could be a
 headache.

  My guess is that Windows CE is probably better
 suited
 to work together with Exchange. Do We need something
 special to make it to run?

  Any other recommendations? I want as less headaches
 as possible :)

  Thanks,

  Miguel


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RE: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds

2008-04-02 Thread Tom Strader
Mmmm, I think you may have clued me in to something Kevin; I do have a
lot of rules set. I'll check that...

For the others:
Inbox: Less than 100
Rules: About 20
Version: 11, Outlook 2003, SP3, Build 8139
Exchange: 2003, SP2
No cached mode
Yes, it looks as if this happens when a new message begins to be
received by Outlook, I checked the Connection status (Ctrl-Click on
taskbar icon, states about 2 seconds average.
No other apps are affected, only Outlook
This is a brand new install of Windows XP, patched fully with Office
2003 Pro full install, fully patched also.

Thanks,
Tom


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 4:43 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds

How many items do you have in your inbox / how many rules do you have ?
what version of outlook / what version of exchange / what other things
do you have installed with outlook / are you in cached mode / does it do
this with every message.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds


Has anyone had the experience of Outlook freezing for about 3-05 seconds
just before a piece of email is delivered?

I've disabled ESET 3.0 thinking that was causing the delay...it wasn't.

I'm out of Google fu.  Any help appreciated!

TIA,
Tom


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RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

2008-04-02 Thread Don Andrews
Agree - and perhaps best of all, no need to allow any inbound IP connections - 
the BES initiates the connection outbound - and provides intranet browser 
access as well (limited of course to the BB Browser).

-Original Message-
From: Amer Karim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:49 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

For two users, I would recommend you look at RIM's Blackberry Professional
Software - http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/professional/.

It includes one CAL with the free download and you can purchase additional
licenses as you need them for up to 30.  I have it installed and running on
a couple of SBS 2003 servers, for less than 10 BB users; I would suggest
that you install it on a separate machine for more than that though that
would also depend on the load on your server.  Either way, you can download
the software and try it out for one of your users or testing purposes; if
you like it, you can purchase the additional CAL.

Regards,
Amer Karim
Nautilis Information Systems
-Original Message-
From: Miguel Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: April-02-08 4:31 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

I think right now they are thinking of two users, I
don't know if the user base will grow in the future (I
guess).

We have ISA 2004 server and thinking of migrating to
ISA 2006.

They need email and calendaring.

BB server needs to be installed in a different
machine? If so, It requires a Windows server machine?
What is the range or pricing of BB Server?

Thanks,

Miguel


--- John Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

 It really depends on several factors - how many
 users? Firewall configuration? Actual need - just
 incredible e-mail or do you actually need all of the
 other bells and whistles? Yes BES costs a little and
 requires a server but once its set up you can
 basically forget about it until you need to add
 another user or something of that nature. I consider
 the BB far superior when it comes to providing
 e-mail for ID10Ts on the road. I have it installed
 on an 8 yr old repurposed Dell workstation with no
 issues. YMMV
 
 John W. Cook
 System Administrator
 Partnership For Strong Families
 315 SE 2nd Ave
 Gainesville, Fl 32601
 Office (352) 393-2741 x320
 Cell (352) 215-6944
 Fax (352) 393-2746
 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jeremy Phillips
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 3:59 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones
 
 If you want the least headaches possible, then run
 Windows Mobile with ActiveSync, which should work
 fine with Exchange 2003. Blackberry does, in fact,
 require another server.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jeremy Phillips
 Senior Messaging Engineer
 Azaleos Corporation
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Miguel Gonzalez
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:54 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Blackberries or Windows CE phones
 
 Hi,
 
  We currently have a SBS 2003 server running
 Exchange
 2003. We are planning to migrate to Exchange 2007,
 however, I don't have a timeline for that migration
 yet.
 
  In the meantime, I've been asked about phones and
 the
 costs for making them to work with our current
 Exchange server.
 
  My assumption is that Blackberries require a
 Blackberry server and apart of the cost, could be a
 headache.
 
  My guess is that Windows CE is probably better
 suited
 to work together with Exchange. Do We need something
 special to make it to run?
 
  Any other recommendations? I want as less headaches
 as possible :)
 
  Thanks,
 
  Miguel
 
 
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RE: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds

2008-04-02 Thread Kevin Miller
If you have some complicated rules it can help to add, stop processing more 
rules at the end of them.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:52 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds

Mmmm, I think you may have clued me in to something Kevin; I do have a
lot of rules set. I'll check that...

For the others:
Inbox: Less than 100
Rules: About 20
Version: 11, Outlook 2003, SP3, Build 8139
Exchange: 2003, SP2
No cached mode
Yes, it looks as if this happens when a new message begins to be
received by Outlook, I checked the Connection status (Ctrl-Click on
taskbar icon, states about 2 seconds average.
No other apps are affected, only Outlook
This is a brand new install of Windows XP, patched fully with Office
2003 Pro full install, fully patched also.

Thanks,
Tom


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 4:43 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds

How many items do you have in your inbox / how many rules do you have ?
what version of outlook / what version of exchange / what other things
do you have installed with outlook / are you in cached mode / does it do
this with every message.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds


Has anyone had the experience of Outlook freezing for about 3-05 seconds
just before a piece of email is delivered?

I've disabled ESET 3.0 thinking that was causing the delay...it wasn't.

I'm out of Google fu.  Any help appreciated!

TIA,
Tom


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RE: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds

2008-04-02 Thread Kevin Miller
Also, 20 rules is not that many. I have 131 rules currently. Outlook 2007. 
However most of my rules are very simple TO or FROM then MOVE to folder rules.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:52 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds

Mmmm, I think you may have clued me in to something Kevin; I do have a
lot of rules set. I'll check that...

For the others:
Inbox: Less than 100
Rules: About 20
Version: 11, Outlook 2003, SP3, Build 8139
Exchange: 2003, SP2
No cached mode
Yes, it looks as if this happens when a new message begins to be
received by Outlook, I checked the Connection status (Ctrl-Click on
taskbar icon, states about 2 seconds average.
No other apps are affected, only Outlook
This is a brand new install of Windows XP, patched fully with Office
2003 Pro full install, fully patched also.

Thanks,
Tom


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 4:43 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds

How many items do you have in your inbox / how many rules do you have ?
what version of outlook / what version of exchange / what other things
do you have installed with outlook / are you in cached mode / does it do
this with every message.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds


Has anyone had the experience of Outlook freezing for about 3-05 seconds
just before a piece of email is delivered?

I've disabled ESET 3.0 thinking that was causing the delay...it wasn't.

I'm out of Google fu.  Any help appreciated!

TIA,
Tom


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RE: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds

2008-04-02 Thread Tom Strader
I just checked some of my rules. A few were null and void missing the
directories for the mail pointing to it.

Thanks for your time Kevin.


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 5:00 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds

Also, 20 rules is not that many. I have 131 rules currently. Outlook
2007. However most of my rules are very simple TO or FROM then MOVE to
folder rules.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:52 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds

Mmmm, I think you may have clued me in to something Kevin; I do have a
lot of rules set. I'll check that...

For the others:
Inbox: Less than 100
Rules: About 20
Version: 11, Outlook 2003, SP3, Build 8139
Exchange: 2003, SP2
No cached mode
Yes, it looks as if this happens when a new message begins to be
received by Outlook, I checked the Connection status (Ctrl-Click on
taskbar icon, states about 2 seconds average.
No other apps are affected, only Outlook
This is a brand new install of Windows XP, patched fully with Office
2003 Pro full install, fully patched also.

Thanks,
Tom


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 4:43 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds

How many items do you have in your inbox / how many rules do you have ?
what version of outlook / what version of exchange / what other things
do you have installed with outlook / are you in cached mode / does it do
this with every message.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds


Has anyone had the experience of Outlook freezing for about 3-05 seconds
just before a piece of email is delivered?

I've disabled ESET 3.0 thinking that was causing the delay...it wasn't.

I'm out of Google fu.  Any help appreciated!

TIA,
Tom


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RE: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds

2008-04-02 Thread Don Andrews
Large message?  Large inbox?  Cached mode?

We run cached mode normally and I've had Outlook appear to freeze when
some id-ten-t sends a 5-8 meg attachment to all 1000 users at our campus
(remote from the centralized Exchange servers).

Does your AV have an Outlook add-in?  If so, did that get disabled as
well during your test?

-Original Message-
From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds


Has anyone had the experience of Outlook freezing for about 3-05 seconds
just before a piece of email is delivered?

I've disabled ESET 3.0 thinking that was causing the delay...it wasn't.

I'm out of Google fu.  Any help appreciated!

TIA,
Tom
 

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NT Backup Status

2008-04-02 Thread James Kerr
Anyway to get an email using NT Backup in Server 2003 when a scheduled job 
using the Scheduled Tasks fails? I want an email sent to me if the backup 
has a problem.


James 



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RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

2008-04-02 Thread Miguel Gonzalez
Good call, so this professional version could be
installed directly in the SBS 2003 server? 

Miguel



--- Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

 Agree - and perhaps best of all, no need to allow
 any inbound IP connections - the BES initiates the
 connection outbound - and provides intranet browser
 access as well (limited of course to the BB
 Browser).
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Amer Karim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:49 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones
 
 For two users, I would recommend you look at RIM's
 Blackberry Professional
 Software -
 http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/professional/.
 
 It includes one CAL with the free download and you
 can purchase additional
 licenses as you need them for up to 30.  I have it
 installed and running on
 a couple of SBS 2003 servers, for less than 10 BB
 users; I would suggest
 that you install it on a separate machine for more
 than that though that
 would also depend on the load on your server. 
 Either way, you can download
 the software and try it out for one of your users or
 testing purposes; if
 you like it, you can purchase the additional CAL.
 
 Regards,
 Amer Karim
 Nautilis Information Systems
 -Original Message-
 From: Miguel Gonzalez
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: April-02-08 4:31 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones
 
 I think right now they are thinking of two users, I
 don't know if the user base will grow in the future
 (I
 guess).
 
 We have ISA 2004 server and thinking of migrating to
 ISA 2006.
 
 They need email and calendaring.
 
 BB server needs to be installed in a different
 machine? If so, It requires a Windows server
 machine?
 What is the range or pricing of BB Server?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Miguel
 
 
 --- John Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
 
  It really depends on several factors - how many
  users? Firewall configuration? Actual need - just
  incredible e-mail or do you actually need all of
 the
  other bells and whistles? Yes BES costs a little
 and
  requires a server but once its set up you can
  basically forget about it until you need to add
  another user or something of that nature. I
 consider
  the BB far superior when it comes to providing
  e-mail for ID10Ts on the road. I have it installed
  on an 8 yr old repurposed Dell workstation with no
  issues. YMMV
  
  John W. Cook
  System Administrator
  Partnership For Strong Families
  315 SE 2nd Ave
  Gainesville, Fl 32601
  Office (352) 393-2741 x320
  Cell (352) 215-6944
  Fax (352) 393-2746
  MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Jeremy Phillips
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 3:59 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones
  
  If you want the least headaches possible, then run
  Windows Mobile with ActiveSync, which should work
  fine with Exchange 2003. Blackberry does, in fact,
  require another server.
  
  Thanks,
  
  Jeremy Phillips
  Senior Messaging Engineer
  Azaleos Corporation
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Miguel Gonzalez
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:54 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: Blackberries or Windows CE phones
  
  Hi,
  
   We currently have a SBS 2003 server running
  Exchange
  2003. We are planning to migrate to Exchange 2007,
  however, I don't have a timeline for that
 migration
  yet.
  
   In the meantime, I've been asked about phones and
  the
  costs for making them to work with our current
  Exchange server.
  
   My assumption is that Blackberries require a
  Blackberry server and apart of the cost, could be
 a
  headache.
  
   My guess is that Windows CE is probably better
  suited
  to work together with Exchange. Do We need
 something
  special to make it to run?
  
   Any other recommendations? I want as less
 headaches
  as possible :)
  
   Thanks,
  
   Miguel
  
  
   
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RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

2008-04-02 Thread Don Andrews
As this is for SBS2003 and someday 2007 so you can probably include intranet 
browsing - at least for now.

-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 2:18 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

'My' list of features missing from WinMob 5:

Lack of admin console/remote management/reporting
Meeting Attendee Information
Out of Office Management
Dedicated Technical Support (For MS it's pay per incident, or forums, peers, 
etc).
SSL Certificate Management
Message Flags (Still can't get over that they missed this).
Notes
Search (It's very limited)
Public Folders
Contact Categories
Push 3rd Party Applications to device
Device Tracking, Monitoring, Reporting
Updates to Software are about every year or two as opposed to quarterly with 
others.
Inline Message Fetch
Fetch emails from mail subfolders on first sync.  

A few of these are fixed in WinMob 6.1 and Exchange 2007




-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 3:41 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

Define feature-less ??

-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:35 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

I agree, Windows Mobile will get you there, and fast, but it's a little 
cumbersome and feature-less.  Read some of my posts in the archives about 
Windows Mobile in a thread titled SmartPhones...To sum it up, if you go 
Windows Mobile, look for devices that are version 6.1

I would recommend BB or a product called Good Messaging (Runs on most all phone 
platforms).  Both are set and forget.

Both also have hosted services, if you don't feel like running another server.  
But, like John said, the hardware requirements are minimal.

FYI, the costs for the license and support of Good Messaging for our business 
is a couple bucks a month per cell phone line.




-Original Message-
From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 3:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

It really depends on several factors - how many users? Firewall configuration? 
Actual need - just incredible e-mail or do you actually need all of the other 
bells and whistles? Yes BES costs a little and requires a server but once its 
set up you can basically forget about it until you need to add another user or 
something of that nature. I consider the BB far superior when it comes to 
providing e-mail for ID10Ts on the road. I have it installed on an 8 yr old 
repurposed Dell workstation with no issues. YMMV

John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 3:59 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

If you want the least headaches possible, then run Windows Mobile with 
ActiveSync, which should work fine with Exchange 2003. Blackberry does, in 
fact, require another server.

Thanks,

Jeremy Phillips
Senior Messaging Engineer
Azaleos Corporation


-Original Message-
From: Miguel Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

Hi,

 We currently have a SBS 2003 server running Exchange
2003. We are planning to migrate to Exchange 2007,
however, I don't have a timeline for that migration
yet.

 In the meantime, I've been asked about phones and the
costs for making them to work with our current
Exchange server.

 My assumption is that Blackberries require a
Blackberry server and apart of the cost, could be a
headache.

 My guess is that Windows CE is probably better suited
to work together with Exchange. Do We need something
special to make it to run?

 Any other recommendations? I want as less headaches
as possible :)

 Thanks,

 Miguel


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RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

2008-04-02 Thread Sam Cayze
'My' list of features missing from WinMob 5:

Lack of admin console/remote management/reporting
Meeting Attendee Information
Out of Office Management
Dedicated Technical Support (For MS it's pay per incident, or forums, peers, 
etc).
SSL Certificate Management
Message Flags (Still can't get over that they missed this).
Notes
Search (It's very limited)
Public Folders
Contact Categories
Push 3rd Party Applications to device
Device Tracking, Monitoring, Reporting
Updates to Software are about every year or two as opposed to quarterly with 
others.
Inline Message Fetch
Fetch emails from mail subfolders on first sync.  

A few of these are fixed in WinMob 6.1 and Exchange 2007




-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 3:41 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

Define feature-less ??

-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:35 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

I agree, Windows Mobile will get you there, and fast, but it's a little 
cumbersome and feature-less.  Read some of my posts in the archives about 
Windows Mobile in a thread titled SmartPhones...To sum it up, if you go 
Windows Mobile, look for devices that are version 6.1

I would recommend BB or a product called Good Messaging (Runs on most all phone 
platforms).  Both are set and forget.

Both also have hosted services, if you don't feel like running another server.  
But, like John said, the hardware requirements are minimal.

FYI, the costs for the license and support of Good Messaging for our business 
is a couple bucks a month per cell phone line.




-Original Message-
From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 3:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

It really depends on several factors - how many users? Firewall configuration? 
Actual need - just incredible e-mail or do you actually need all of the other 
bells and whistles? Yes BES costs a little and requires a server but once its 
set up you can basically forget about it until you need to add another user or 
something of that nature. I consider the BB far superior when it comes to 
providing e-mail for ID10Ts on the road. I have it installed on an 8 yr old 
repurposed Dell workstation with no issues. YMMV

John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 3:59 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

If you want the least headaches possible, then run Windows Mobile with 
ActiveSync, which should work fine with Exchange 2003. Blackberry does, in 
fact, require another server.

Thanks,

Jeremy Phillips
Senior Messaging Engineer
Azaleos Corporation


-Original Message-
From: Miguel Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

Hi,

 We currently have a SBS 2003 server running Exchange
2003. We are planning to migrate to Exchange 2007,
however, I don't have a timeline for that migration
yet.

 In the meantime, I've been asked about phones and the
costs for making them to work with our current
Exchange server.

 My assumption is that Blackberries require a
Blackberry server and apart of the cost, could be a
headache.

 My guess is that Windows CE is probably better suited
to work together with Exchange. Do We need something
special to make it to run?

 Any other recommendations? I want as less headaches
as possible :)

 Thanks,

 Miguel


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RE: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds

2008-04-02 Thread Kevin Miller
Add-ins are another good one to check. I ran some thread compressor thing for a 
while that was supposed to make treads more Gmail like. It seemed to crash 
everything. mutter, internal tools, mutter



-Original Message-
From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 2:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds

Large message?  Large inbox?  Cached mode?

We run cached mode normally and I've had Outlook appear to freeze when
some id-ten-t sends a 5-8 meg attachment to all 1000 users at our campus
(remote from the centralized Exchange servers).

Does your AV have an Outlook add-in?  If so, did that get disabled as
well during your test?

-Original Message-
From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds


Has anyone had the experience of Outlook freezing for about 3-05 seconds
just before a piece of email is delivered?

I've disabled ESET 3.0 thinking that was causing the delay...it wasn't.

I'm out of Google fu.  Any help appreciated!

TIA,
Tom


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RE: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds

2008-04-02 Thread Michael B. Smith
That's interesting.

I import Gmail into Outlook because I prefer the way Outlook does threading
to the way Gmail does it!

I am SO old-school.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 5:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds

Add-ins are another good one to check. I ran some thread compressor thing
for a while that was supposed to make treads more Gmail like. It seemed to
crash everything. mutter, internal tools, mutter



-Original Message-
From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 2:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds

Large message?  Large inbox?  Cached mode?

We run cached mode normally and I've had Outlook appear to freeze when
some id-ten-t sends a 5-8 meg attachment to all 1000 users at our campus
(remote from the centralized Exchange servers).

Does your AV have an Outlook add-in?  If so, did that get disabled as
well during your test?

-Original Message-
From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Outlook 2003 Freezing for 4-5 seconds


Has anyone had the experience of Outlook freezing for about 3-05 seconds
just before a piece of email is delivered?

I've disabled ESET 3.0 thinking that was causing the delay...it wasn't.

I'm out of Google fu.  Any help appreciated!

TIA,
Tom


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RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

2008-04-02 Thread Sam Cayze
Yeah, they are finally starting to address some of these things.  It's just 
frustrating the Good and BB have done them since about 4 years ago out of the 
box.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 4:32 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

I was thinking as I was reading this,  it does these things 

Then I read your last line. Most of these things require Exchange 2007, Windows 
Mobile 6 or better. Some of these need SCMDM

-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 2:18 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

'My' list of features missing from WinMob 5:

Lack of admin console/remote management/reporting
Meeting Attendee Information
Out of Office Management
Dedicated Technical Support (For MS it's pay per incident, or forums, peers, 
etc).
SSL Certificate Management
Message Flags (Still can't get over that they missed this).
Notes
Search (It's very limited)
Public Folders
Contact Categories
Push 3rd Party Applications to device
Device Tracking, Monitoring, Reporting
Updates to Software are about every year or two as opposed to quarterly with 
others.
Inline Message Fetch
Fetch emails from mail subfolders on first sync.

A few of these are fixed in WinMob 6.1 and Exchange 2007




-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 3:41 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

Define feature-less ??

-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:35 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

I agree, Windows Mobile will get you there, and fast, but it's a little 
cumbersome and feature-less.  Read some of my posts in the archives about 
Windows Mobile in a thread titled SmartPhones...To sum it up, if you go 
Windows Mobile, look for devices that are version 6.1

I would recommend BB or a product called Good Messaging (Runs on most all phone 
platforms).  Both are set and forget.

Both also have hosted services, if you don't feel like running another server.  
But, like John said, the hardware requirements are minimal.

FYI, the costs for the license and support of Good Messaging for our business 
is a couple bucks a month per cell phone line.




-Original Message-
From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 3:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

It really depends on several factors - how many users? Firewall configuration? 
Actual need - just incredible e-mail or do you actually need all of the other 
bells and whistles? Yes BES costs a little and requires a server but once its 
set up you can basically forget about it until you need to add another user or 
something of that nature. I consider the BB far superior when it comes to 
providing e-mail for ID10Ts on the road. I have it installed on an 8 yr old 
repurposed Dell workstation with no issues. YMMV

John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 3:59 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

If you want the least headaches possible, then run Windows Mobile with 
ActiveSync, which should work fine with Exchange 2003. Blackberry does, in 
fact, require another server.

Thanks,

Jeremy Phillips
Senior Messaging Engineer
Azaleos Corporation


-Original Message-
From: Miguel Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

Hi,

 We currently have a SBS 2003 server running Exchange
2003. We are planning to migrate to Exchange 2007,
however, I don't have a timeline for that migration
yet.

 In the meantime, I've been asked about phones and the
costs for making them to work with our current
Exchange server.

 My assumption is that Blackberries require a
Blackberry server and apart of the cost, could be a
headache.

 My guess is that Windows CE is probably better suited
to work together with Exchange. Do We need something
special to make it to run?

 Any other recommendations? I want as less headaches
as possible :)

 Thanks,

 Miguel


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RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

2008-04-02 Thread Kevin Miller
I was thinking as I was reading this,  it does these things 

Then I read your last line. Most of these things require Exchange 2007, Windows 
Mobile 6 or better. Some of these need SCMDM

-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 2:18 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

'My' list of features missing from WinMob 5:

Lack of admin console/remote management/reporting
Meeting Attendee Information
Out of Office Management
Dedicated Technical Support (For MS it's pay per incident, or forums, peers, 
etc).
SSL Certificate Management
Message Flags (Still can't get over that they missed this).
Notes
Search (It's very limited)
Public Folders
Contact Categories
Push 3rd Party Applications to device
Device Tracking, Monitoring, Reporting
Updates to Software are about every year or two as opposed to quarterly with 
others.
Inline Message Fetch
Fetch emails from mail subfolders on first sync.

A few of these are fixed in WinMob 6.1 and Exchange 2007




-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 3:41 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

Define feature-less ??

-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:35 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

I agree, Windows Mobile will get you there, and fast, but it's a little 
cumbersome and feature-less.  Read some of my posts in the archives about 
Windows Mobile in a thread titled SmartPhones...To sum it up, if you go 
Windows Mobile, look for devices that are version 6.1

I would recommend BB or a product called Good Messaging (Runs on most all phone 
platforms).  Both are set and forget.

Both also have hosted services, if you don't feel like running another server.  
But, like John said, the hardware requirements are minimal.

FYI, the costs for the license and support of Good Messaging for our business 
is a couple bucks a month per cell phone line.




-Original Message-
From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 3:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

It really depends on several factors - how many users? Firewall configuration? 
Actual need - just incredible e-mail or do you actually need all of the other 
bells and whistles? Yes BES costs a little and requires a server but once its 
set up you can basically forget about it until you need to add another user or 
something of that nature. I consider the BB far superior when it comes to 
providing e-mail for ID10Ts on the road. I have it installed on an 8 yr old 
repurposed Dell workstation with no issues. YMMV

John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 3:59 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

If you want the least headaches possible, then run Windows Mobile with 
ActiveSync, which should work fine with Exchange 2003. Blackberry does, in 
fact, require another server.

Thanks,

Jeremy Phillips
Senior Messaging Engineer
Azaleos Corporation


-Original Message-
From: Miguel Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:54 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

Hi,

 We currently have a SBS 2003 server running Exchange
2003. We are planning to migrate to Exchange 2007,
however, I don't have a timeline for that migration
yet.

 In the meantime, I've been asked about phones and the
costs for making them to work with our current
Exchange server.

 My assumption is that Blackberries require a
Blackberry server and apart of the cost, could be a
headache.

 My guess is that Windows CE is probably better suited
to work together with Exchange. Do We need something
special to make it to run?

 Any other recommendations? I want as less headaches
as possible :)

 Thanks,

 Miguel


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RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

2008-04-02 Thread Amer Karim
Yes - depending on your current load on the SBS server, of course.  I have
two installations of it on clients' SBS 2003 - three counting my own.  

Regards,
Amer Karim
Nautilis Information Systems


-Original Message-
From: Miguel Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: April-02-08 5:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

Good call, so this professional version could be
installed directly in the SBS 2003 server? 

Miguel



--- Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

 Agree - and perhaps best of all, no need to allow
 any inbound IP connections - the BES initiates the
 connection outbound - and provides intranet browser
 access as well (limited of course to the BB
 Browser).
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Amer Karim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:49 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones
 
 For two users, I would recommend you look at RIM's
 Blackberry Professional
 Software -
 http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/professional/.
 
 It includes one CAL with the free download and you
 can purchase additional
 licenses as you need them for up to 30.  I have it
 installed and running on
 a couple of SBS 2003 servers, for less than 10 BB
 users; I would suggest
 that you install it on a separate machine for more
 than that though that
 would also depend on the load on your server. 
 Either way, you can download
 the software and try it out for one of your users or
 testing purposes; if
 you like it, you can purchase the additional CAL.
 
 Regards,
 Amer Karim
 Nautilis Information Systems
 -Original Message-
 From: Miguel Gonzalez
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: April-02-08 4:31 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones
 
 I think right now they are thinking of two users, I
 don't know if the user base will grow in the future
 (I
 guess).
 
 We have ISA 2004 server and thinking of migrating to
 ISA 2006.
 
 They need email and calendaring.
 
 BB server needs to be installed in a different
 machine? If so, It requires a Windows server
 machine?
 What is the range or pricing of BB Server?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Miguel
 
 
 --- John Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
 
  It really depends on several factors - how many
  users? Firewall configuration? Actual need - just
  incredible e-mail or do you actually need all of
 the
  other bells and whistles? Yes BES costs a little
 and
  requires a server but once its set up you can
  basically forget about it until you need to add
  another user or something of that nature. I
 consider
  the BB far superior when it comes to providing
  e-mail for ID10Ts on the road. I have it installed
  on an 8 yr old repurposed Dell workstation with no
  issues. YMMV
  
  John W. Cook
  System Administrator
  Partnership For Strong Families
  315 SE 2nd Ave
  Gainesville, Fl 32601
  Office (352) 393-2741 x320
  Cell (352) 215-6944
  Fax (352) 393-2746
  MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Jeremy Phillips
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 3:59 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones
  
  If you want the least headaches possible, then run
  Windows Mobile with ActiveSync, which should work
  fine with Exchange 2003. Blackberry does, in fact,
  require another server.
  
  Thanks,
  
  Jeremy Phillips
  Senior Messaging Engineer
  Azaleos Corporation
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Miguel Gonzalez
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:54 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: Blackberries or Windows CE phones
  
  Hi,
  
   We currently have a SBS 2003 server running
  Exchange
  2003. We are planning to migrate to Exchange 2007,
  however, I don't have a timeline for that
 migration
  yet.
  
   In the meantime, I've been asked about phones and
  the
  costs for making them to work with our current
  Exchange server.
  
   My assumption is that Blackberries require a
  Blackberry server and apart of the cost, could be
 a
  headache.
  
   My guess is that Windows CE is probably better
  suited
  to work together with Exchange. Do We need
 something
  special to make it to run?
  
   Any other recommendations? I want as less
 headaches
  as possible :)
  
   Thanks,
  
   Miguel
  
  
   
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RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

2008-04-02 Thread Alex Eckelberry
Fwiw, here at Sunbelt, we're a Blackberry shop.  I've just never found a really 
happy Windows CE user.   Blackberries are wonderful email machines, and they 
are incredibly durable and reliable.   Now, we do have a BES server which we 
get as a Blackberry partner. But I am a strong believer in Blackberries -- 
again, for email, they are incredible.  For browsing the web, well, get an 
iPhone. 

-Original Message-
From: Amer Karim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 5:40 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

Yes - depending on your current load on the SBS server, of course.  I have two 
installations of it on clients' SBS 2003 - three counting my own.  

Regards,
Amer Karim
Nautilis Information Systems


-Original Message-
From: Miguel Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: April-02-08 5:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

Good call, so this professional version could be installed directly in the SBS 
2003 server? 

Miguel



--- Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

 Agree - and perhaps best of all, no need to allow any inbound IP 
 connections - the BES initiates the connection outbound - and provides 
 intranet browser access as well (limited of course to the BB Browser).
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Amer Karim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:49 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones
 
 For two users, I would recommend you look at RIM's Blackberry 
 Professional Software - 
 http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/professional/.
 
 It includes one CAL with the free download and you can purchase 
 additional licenses as you need them for up to 30.  I have it 
 installed and running on a couple of SBS 2003 servers, for less than 
 10 BB users; I would suggest that you install it on a separate machine 
 for more than that though that would also depend on the load on your 
 server.
 Either way, you can download
 the software and try it out for one of your users or testing purposes; 
 if you like it, you can purchase the additional CAL.
 
 Regards,
 Amer Karim
 Nautilis Information Systems
 -Original Message-
 From: Miguel Gonzalez
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: April-02-08 4:31 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones
 
 I think right now they are thinking of two users, I don't know if the 
 user base will grow in the future (I guess).
 
 We have ISA 2004 server and thinking of migrating to ISA 2006.
 
 They need email and calendaring.
 
 BB server needs to be installed in a different machine? If so, It 
 requires a Windows server machine?
 What is the range or pricing of BB Server?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Miguel
 
 
 --- John Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
 
  It really depends on several factors - how many users? Firewall 
  configuration? Actual need - just incredible e-mail or do you 
  actually need all of
 the
  other bells and whistles? Yes BES costs a little
 and
  requires a server but once its set up you can basically forget about 
  it until you need to add another user or something of that nature. I
 consider
  the BB far superior when it comes to providing e-mail for ID10Ts on 
  the road. I have it installed on an 8 yr old repurposed Dell 
  workstation with no issues. YMMV
  
  John W. Cook
  System Administrator
  Partnership For Strong Families
  315 SE 2nd Ave
  Gainesville, Fl 32601
  Office (352) 393-2741 x320
  Cell (352) 215-6944
  Fax (352) 393-2746
  MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Jeremy Phillips
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 3:59 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones
  
  If you want the least headaches possible, then run Windows Mobile 
  with ActiveSync, which should work fine with Exchange 2003. 
  Blackberry does, in fact, require another server.
  
  Thanks,
  
  Jeremy Phillips
  Senior Messaging Engineer
  Azaleos Corporation
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Miguel Gonzalez
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:54 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: Blackberries or Windows CE phones
  
  Hi,
  
   We currently have a SBS 2003 server running Exchange 2003. We are 
  planning to migrate to Exchange 2007, however, I don't have a 
  timeline for that
 migration
  yet.
  
   In the meantime, I've been asked about phones and the costs for 
  making them to work with our current Exchange server.
  
   My assumption is that Blackberries require a Blackberry server and 
  apart of the cost, could be
 a
  headache.
  
   My guess is that Windows CE is probably better suited to work 
  together with Exchange. Do We need
 something
  special to make it to run?
  
   Any other recommendations? I want as less
 headaches
  as possible :)
  
   Thanks,
  
   Miguel
  
  

RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

2008-04-02 Thread Amer Karim
Also FWIW, and a slight tangent - RIM recently filed a patent for a touch
screen interface, which going by their history, tends to indicate that they
already have a product fairly close to completion if not already in testing.


FYI -
http://www.unwiredview.com/2008/02/08/blackberry-patents-angled-slider-and-r
im-multi-touch-technology/


Regards,
Amer Karim
Nautilis Information Systems


-Original Message-
From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: April-02-08 7:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

Fwiw, here at Sunbelt, we're a Blackberry shop.  I've just never found a
really happy Windows CE user.   Blackberries are wonderful email machines,
and they are incredibly durable and reliable.   Now, we do have a BES server
which we get as a Blackberry partner. But I am a strong believer in
Blackberries -- again, for email, they are incredible.  For browsing the
web, well, get an iPhone. 

-Original Message-
From: Amer Karim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 5:40 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

Yes - depending on your current load on the SBS server, of course.  I have
two installations of it on clients' SBS 2003 - three counting my own.  

Regards,
Amer Karim
Nautilis Information Systems


-Original Message-
From: Miguel Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: April-02-08 5:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones

Good call, so this professional version could be installed directly in the
SBS 2003 server? 

Miguel



--- Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

 Agree - and perhaps best of all, no need to allow any inbound IP 
 connections - the BES initiates the connection outbound - and provides 
 intranet browser access as well (limited of course to the BB Browser).
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Amer Karim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:49 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones
 
 For two users, I would recommend you look at RIM's Blackberry 
 Professional Software - 
 http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/professional/.
 
 It includes one CAL with the free download and you can purchase 
 additional licenses as you need them for up to 30.  I have it 
 installed and running on a couple of SBS 2003 servers, for less than 
 10 BB users; I would suggest that you install it on a separate machine 
 for more than that though that would also depend on the load on your 
 server.
 Either way, you can download
 the software and try it out for one of your users or testing purposes; 
 if you like it, you can purchase the additional CAL.
 
 Regards,
 Amer Karim
 Nautilis Information Systems
 -Original Message-
 From: Miguel Gonzalez
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: April-02-08 4:31 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones
 
 I think right now they are thinking of two users, I don't know if the 
 user base will grow in the future (I guess).
 
 We have ISA 2004 server and thinking of migrating to ISA 2006.
 
 They need email and calendaring.
 
 BB server needs to be installed in a different machine? If so, It 
 requires a Windows server machine?
 What is the range or pricing of BB Server?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Miguel
 
 
 --- John Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
 
  It really depends on several factors - how many users? Firewall 
  configuration? Actual need - just incredible e-mail or do you 
  actually need all of
 the
  other bells and whistles? Yes BES costs a little
 and
  requires a server but once its set up you can basically forget about 
  it until you need to add another user or something of that nature. I
 consider
  the BB far superior when it comes to providing e-mail for ID10Ts on 
  the road. I have it installed on an 8 yr old repurposed Dell 
  workstation with no issues. YMMV
  
  John W. Cook
  System Administrator
  Partnership For Strong Families
  315 SE 2nd Ave
  Gainesville, Fl 32601
  Office (352) 393-2741 x320
  Cell (352) 215-6944
  Fax (352) 393-2746
  MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Jeremy Phillips
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 3:59 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Blackberries or Windows CE phones
  
  If you want the least headaches possible, then run Windows Mobile 
  with ActiveSync, which should work fine with Exchange 2003. 
  Blackberry does, in fact, require another server.
  
  Thanks,
  
  Jeremy Phillips
  Senior Messaging Engineer
  Azaleos Corporation
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Miguel Gonzalez
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:54 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: Blackberries or Windows CE phones
  
  Hi,
  
   We currently have a SBS 2003 server running Exchange 2003. We are 
  planning to migrate to Exchange 

RE: Cluster setup

2008-04-02 Thread Michael B. Smith
I would recommend that you move up to Exchange Server 2007 sp1 and use SCR.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 4:31 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Cluster setup

 

It doesnt seem that i am going to get approved for Enterprise Exchange
and Windows servers. What options do i have in setting up 2 exchange server
standard and 2 windows standard server. My current solution would be to
build a replica keep it offline and bring it online in case the main mail
server was to go down.

 

 

 

Dennis Rogov

Senior Network Analyst 
THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 

379 thornall street, 12th floor  | edison, nj 08837 usa

Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277

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  _  

From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Cluster setup

   Hi Guys 

 

i was just in the proccess to start to setup my cluster and came to
halt. I currently have one mail server which is Windows 03 Standard Server
Edition with Exchange 

 

03 Standard Edition. According to the cluster documenations  i need to have
Windows 03 Enterprise or Datacenter edition and Exchange 03 advanced
edition. My 

 

window of downtime for mail environment is 30 minutes to 1 hour. I am
consdering duplicating the new server with the exsisting server and
disconnect the current mail 

 

server so it could be updated. I am just wondering what potentials issues
that i can run into with the new live server. Our current mail server
commuicates to our 

 

blackberry server and our spam filtering folder. 

 

Dr

 

 

Senior Network Analyst 
THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company 

379 thornall street, 12th floor  | edison, nj 08837 usa

Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277

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RE: Cluster setup

2008-04-02 Thread Joseph L. Casale
I'm guessing the increased cost of all the new cals is worse then upgrading 
just the os and exchange level...
jlc

From: Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 8:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Cluster setup

I would recommend that you move up to Exchange Server 2007 sp1 and use SCR.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 4:31 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Cluster setup

It doesnt seem that i am going to get approved for Enterprise Exchange and 
Windows servers. What options do i have in setting up 2 exchange server 
standard and 2 windows standard server. My current solution would be to build a 
replica keep it offline and bring it online in case the main mail server was to 
go down.



Dennis Rogov
Senior Network Analyst
THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company
379 thornall street, 12th floor  | edison, nj 08837 usa
Direct: 732-205-8376 | fax: 732.321.0636 |Cell:732.861.2277
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From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Cluster setup
   Hi Guys

i was just in the proccess to start to setup my cluster and came to halt. I 
currently have one mail server which is Windows 03 Standard Server Edition with 
Exchange

03 Standard Edition. According to the cluster documenations  i need to have 
Windows 03 Enterprise or Datacenter edition and Exchange 03 advanced edition. My

window of downtime for mail environment is 30 minutes to 1 hour. I am 
consdering duplicating the new server with the exsisting server and disconnect 
the current mail

server so it could be updated. I am just wondering what potentials issues that 
i can run into with the new live server. Our current mail server commuicates to 
our

blackberry server and our spam filtering folder.

Dr


Senior Network Analyst
THE Peer GROUP an informed medical communications company
379 thornall street, 12th floor  | edison, nj 08837 usa
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