Re: mail store size question
We start at 100 MB and increase as there is a proven business need. Transfer and storage of files is not considered a valid need - we have a secure, easy to use browser based file transfer system in house. - Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld - Original Message - From: Fred Sawyer fr...@sunbelt-software.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Mon Feb 02 07:38:27 2009 Subject: RE: mail store size question Is a 6 gig mailbox considered large? ;-) With the growing trend of email being utilized as a convenient file transfer system between companies what would you list members consider to be a fair mailbox quota? Fred From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question Not at all. From: David.Ricci [mailto:david.ri...@hwinstitute.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:17 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: mail store size question Is a 6 gig mail store large for 2003 sp2 exchange? David ... ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: mail store size question
I try to convince all my clients to go in a new version with a 1 GB size and plan on expanding to 2 GB within a 2 year horizon. That tends to be about all existing infrastructure can handle. I'm working with a university right now who has 35 MB (yes, MB!) limits on all their mailboxes. We are going to completely retool their infrastructure; going from SAN to DAS and A/A/A/P/P to CCR virtualized with DPM for backups. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php From: Fred Sawyer [mailto:fr...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question Is a 6 gig mailbox considered large? ;-) With the growing trend of email being utilized as a convenient file transfer system between companies what would you list members consider to be a fair mailbox quota? Fred _ From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question Not at all. From: David.Ricci [mailto:david.ri...@hwinstitute.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:17 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: mail store size question Is a 6 gig mail store large for 2003 sp2 exchange? David ... ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: MX Logic for Archiving
Have you looked at Sunbelt's Exchange Archiver? Sean Rector, MCSE -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MX Logic for Archiving A peer had recommended GFI, and I'm looking into that. It's a lot less expensive than MX Logic, but on the other hand I have to maintain everything on my end. I kind of like the idea of contracting that out, and having someone else responsible for redundancy, backups, software updates/maintenance, storage, etc. John -Original Message- From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:li...@levelfive.us] Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 12:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MX Logic for Archiving Without knowing your requirements: Mailarchiva Gfi mail archiver Proxmox -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 3:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: MX Logic for Archiving Anyone using MX Logic for Exchange e-mail archiving? If so, what are your thoughts? John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ 2008-2009 Season: Tosca | The Barber of Seville Recently Announced: Virginia Opera's 35th Anniversary Season 2009-2010 Visit us online at www.vaopera.org or call 1.866.OPERA.VA This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). Unless otherwise specified, persons unnamed as recipients may not read, distribute, copy or alter this e-mail. Any views or opinions expressed in this e-mail belong to the author and may not necessarily represent those of Virginia Opera. Although precautions have been taken to ensure no viruses are present, Virginia Opera cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that may arise from the use of this e-mail or attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: MX Logic for Archiving
Yeah, I did an online demo with them a little while back. I can't remember their pricing structure. Again, though, I do like the idea of paying to have someone else maintain/manage everything (if we can afford it). John -Original Message- From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MX Logic for Archiving Have you looked at Sunbelt's Exchange Archiver? Sean Rector, MCSE -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MX Logic for Archiving A peer had recommended GFI, and I'm looking into that. It's a lot less expensive than MX Logic, but on the other hand I have to maintain everything on my end. I kind of like the idea of contracting that out, and having someone else responsible for redundancy, backups, software updates/maintenance, storage, etc. John -Original Message- From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:li...@levelfive.us] Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 12:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MX Logic for Archiving Without knowing your requirements: Mailarchiva Gfi mail archiver Proxmox -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 3:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: MX Logic for Archiving Anyone using MX Logic for Exchange e-mail archiving? If so, what are your thoughts? John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ 2008-2009 Season: Tosca | The Barber of Seville Recently Announced: Virginia Opera's 35th Anniversary Season 2009-2010 Visit us online at www.vaopera.org or call 1.866.OPERA.VA This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). Unless otherwise specified, persons unnamed as recipients may not read, distribute, copy or alter this e-mail. Any views or opinions expressed in this e-mail belong to the author and may not necessarily represent those of Virginia Opera. Although precautions have been taken to ensure no viruses are present, Virginia Opera cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that may arise from the use of this e-mail or attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Outlook through VPN issues
Guido, I've experienced this issue with my laptop users on occasion. It appears that the problem is with the network that they're on when they try to open Outlook over the VPN. An example is this - one of my users is in a particular hotel, connects with the VPN (Windows VPN client, to ISA 2006), and opens Outlook, they get a timeout - no matter how many times they retry the connection. It won't timeout resolving username and server. I've had the user then go to a local wifi (Panera's or similar), and fire it up in the same manner, and they connect just fine. We all know that once you establish a connection with a VPN, you should be able to transport any data/port over it, but my only guess in these situations is that there is something on the hotel network blocking the Outlook connection, even after the VPN tunnel is created. When they experience this, I suggest to them to use OWA - either over the VPN or not - and they're fine with that. Sean Rector, MCSE From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it] Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 12:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Outlook through VPN issues I connect a user in a workgroup to a corporate remote domain through PPTP VPN with his domain credential. The connection is successfull an I can even map drives from remote server. I create his account on Outllok2003 sp3 (OWA works OK) in cached mode The exchange server name is well resolved giving the internal IP and the user name as well, but when trying to download the items I get a Exchange Server unavailable response. Could be an authentication problem or what other ? TIA GuidoElia HELPPC 2008-2009 Season: Tosca | The Barber of Seville Recently Announced: Virginia Opera's 35th Anniversary Season 2009-2010 Visit us online at www.vaopera.org or call 1.866.OPERA.VA This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). Unless otherwise specified, persons unnamed as recipients may not read, distribute, copy or alter this e-mail. Any views or opinions expressed in this e-mail belong to the author and may not necessarily represent those of Virginia Opera. Although precautions have been taken to ensure no viruses are present, Virginia Opera cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that may arise from the use of this e-mail or attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: mail store size question
The max is 75GB for Standard edition, which is also limited to a single store. If you can create another store and move mailboxes to it, you have Enterprise edition and you don't care about a 75GB limit. Carl From: David.Ricci [mailto:david.ri...@hwinstitute.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:51 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question Thanks ALL, Actually my assistant read it wrong and we have a 68 gig mail store. So I think the only quick fix is to create a new mail store and start to move email box's over. I read the max is 75 gig for a mail store. David From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question That's the trick question...It all depends on the amount of storage you have and / or the IT policy in place. S. From: Fred Sawyer [mailto:fr...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question Is a 6 gig mailbox considered large? ;-) With the growing trend of email being utilized as a convenient file transfer system between companies what would you list members consider to be a fair mailbox quota? Fred _ From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question Not at all. From: David.Ricci [mailto:david.ri...@hwinstitute.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:17 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: mail store size question Is a 6 gig mail store large for 2003 sp2 exchange? David ... ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: mail store size question
And what would that system be? On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:51 AM, Don Andrews don.andr...@safeway.com wrote: We start at 100 MB and increase as there is a proven business need. Transfer and storage of files is not considered a valid need - we have a secure, easy to use browser based file transfer system in house. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: mail store size question
+1 Thanks, Jake Gardner TTC Network Administrator Ext. 246 From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 11:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: mail store size question I have mailboxes bigger than that... :P On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:16 AM, David.Ricci david.ri...@hwinstitute.com wrote: Is a 6 gig mail store large for 2003 sp2 exchange? David ***Teletronics Technology Corporation*** This e-mail is confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee or authorized by the addressee to receive this e-mail, you may not disclose, copy, distribute, or use this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail or by telephone at 267-352-2020 and destroy this message and any copies. Thank you. *** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
R: Outlook through VPN issues
They are using OWA and all the limits it may give. They wanted to start using
outlook for managing and archiving files. They are working in Milan ,Italy and
the Server is in London. I tride at their site and at my site (different ISPs
and routers) .Same behaviour. I asked guys in London to implement RPC over
http. We'll see
Thanks
GuidoElia
HELPPC
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A: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Oggetto: RE: Outlook through VPN issues
Guido,
I've experienced this issue with my laptop users on occasion. It appears that
the problem is with the network that they're on when they try to open Outlook
over the VPN. An example is this - one of my users is in a particular hotel,
connects with the VPN (Windows VPN client, to ISA 2006), and opens Outlook,
they get a timeout - no matter how many times they retry the connection. It
won't timeout resolving username and server. I've had the user then go to a
local wifi (Panera's or similar), and fire it up in the same manner, and they
connect just fine. We all know that once you establish a connection with a
VPN, you should be able to transport any data/port over it, but my only guess
in these situations is that there is something on the hotel network blocking
the Outlook connection, even after the VPN tunnel is created.
When they experience this, I suggest to them to use OWA - either over the VPN
or not - and they're fine with that.
Sean Rector, MCSE
From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it]
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 12:54 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Outlook through VPN issues
I connect a user in a workgroup to a corporate remote domain through PPTP VPN
with his domain credential.
The connection is successfull an I can even map drives from remote server.
I create his account on Outllok2003 sp3 (OWA works OK) in cached mode
The exchange server name is well resolved giving the internal IP and the user
name as well, but when trying to download the items I get a Exchange Server
unavailable response.
Could be an authentication problem or what other ?
TIA
GuidoElia
HELPPC
Information Technology Manager
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Phone:(757) 213-4548 (direct line)
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RE: mail store size question
Gee, you probably also disagree with the I have a hammer in my hand and am using it to drive these screws - it isn't working well so fix the screws philosophy. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question Why would you have mailboxes larger than 6GB? I think the philosophy of using e-mail as a file transfer/storage is flawed. There are too many other, better, more secure methods of transferring and storing files. We give a warning at 150 MB, and shut them down at 200MB. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: mail store size question I have mailboxes bigger than that... :P On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:16 AM, David.Ricci david.ri...@hwinstitute.com wrote: Is a 6 gig mail store large for 2003 sp2 exchange? David ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: mail store size question
Why would I have 500GB mail stores as well? I can only make recommendations as to why its a bad thing... If in the end, they don't care and give me more money for more disk space, so be it... On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Joe Heaton jhea...@etp.ca.gov wrote: Why would you have mailboxes larger than 6GB? I think the philosophy of using e-mail as a file transfer/storage is flawed. There are too many other, better, more secure methods of transferring and storing files. We give a warning at 150 MB, and shut them down at 200MB. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel *From:* Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2009 8:36 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: mail store size question I have mailboxes bigger than that... :P On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:16 AM, David.Ricci david.ri...@hwinstitute.com wrote: Is a 6 gig mail store large for 2003 sp2 exchange? David ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: mail store size question
No Don, I'd change the tool in my hand and use a screwdriver. Did I miss the point of your sarcasm? Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question Gee, you probably also disagree with the I have a hammer in my hand and am using it to drive these screws - it isn't working well so fix the screws philosophy. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question Why would you have mailboxes larger than 6GB? I think the philosophy of using e-mail as a file transfer/storage is flawed. There are too many other, better, more secure methods of transferring and storing files. We give a warning at 150 MB, and shut them down at 200MB. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: mail store size question I have mailboxes bigger than that... :P On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:16 AM, David.Ricci david.ri...@hwinstitute.com wrote: Is a 6 gig mail store large for 2003 sp2 exchange? David ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: mail store size question
I guess I'm fortunate to have a manager that agrees with me then... What's the recovery time on a 500GB store? Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: mail store size question Why would I have 500GB mail stores as well? I can only make recommendations as to why its a bad thing... If in the end, they don't care and give me more money for more disk space, so be it... On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Joe Heaton jhea...@etp.ca.gov wrote: Why would you have mailboxes larger than 6GB? I think the philosophy of using e-mail as a file transfer/storage is flawed. There are too many other, better, more secure methods of transferring and storing files. We give a warning at 150 MB, and shut them down at 200MB. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: mail store size question I have mailboxes bigger than that... :P On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:16 AM, David.Ricci david.ri...@hwinstitute.com wrote: Is a 6 gig mail store large for 2003 sp2 exchange? David ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: mail store size question
The time takes to restore 5 100GB stores :) Carry on... From: bounce-8416958-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-8416958-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Joe Heaton Sent: 02 February 2009 17:39 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question I guess I'm fortunate to have a manager that agrees with me then... What's the recovery time on a 500GB store? Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: mail store size question Why would I have 500GB mail stores as well? I can only make recommendations as to why its a bad thing... If in the end, they don't care and give me more money for more disk space, so be it... On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Joe Heaton jhea...@etp.ca.govmailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov wrote: Why would you have mailboxes larger than 6GB? I think the philosophy of using e-mail as a file transfer/storage is flawed. There are too many other, better, more secure methods of transferring and storing files. We give a warning at 150 MB, and shut them down at 200MB. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.commailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: mail store size question I have mailboxes bigger than that... :P On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:16 AM, David.Ricci david.ri...@hwinstitute.commailto:david.ri...@hwinstitute.com wrote: Is a 6 gig mail store large for 2003 sp2 exchange? David ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: mail store size question
With a snapshot, not very long at all... ;o) On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Joe Heaton jhea...@etp.ca.gov wrote: I guess I'm fortunate to have a manager that agrees with me then… What's the recovery time on a 500GB store? Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel *From:* Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2009 9:12 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: mail store size question Why would I have 500GB mail stores as well? I can only make recommendations as to why its a bad thing... If in the end, they don't care and give me more money for more disk space, so be it... On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Joe Heaton jhea...@etp.ca.gov wrote: Why would you have mailboxes larger than 6GB? I think the philosophy of using e-mail as a file transfer/storage is flawed. There are too many other, better, more secure methods of transferring and storing files. We give a warning at 150 MB, and shut them down at 200MB. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel *From:* Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2009 8:36 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: mail store size question I have mailboxes bigger than that... :P On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:16 AM, David.Ricci david.ri...@hwinstitute.com wrote: Is a 6 gig mail store large for 2003 sp2 exchange? David ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: mail store size question
Don and I both use the same thing, so the last time I did a 70 GB store recovery, it was under 1 minute. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:39 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question I guess I'm fortunate to have a manager that agrees with me then. What's the recovery time on a 500GB store? Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: mail store size question Why would I have 500GB mail stores as well? I can only make recommendations as to why its a bad thing... If in the end, they don't care and give me more money for more disk space, so be it... On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Joe Heaton jhea...@etp.ca.gov wrote: Why would you have mailboxes larger than 6GB? I think the philosophy of using e-mail as a file transfer/storage is flawed. There are too many other, better, more secure methods of transferring and storing files. We give a warning at 150 MB, and shut them down at 200MB. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: mail store size question I have mailboxes bigger than that... :P On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:16 AM, David.Ricci david.ri...@hwinstitute.com wrote: Is a 6 gig mail store large for 2003 sp2 exchange? David ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: mail store size question
Ah, but you're not the average user/manager. Sarcasm? - me?? From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question No Don, I'd change the tool in my hand and use a screwdriver. Did I miss the point of your sarcasm? Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question Gee, you probably also disagree with the I have a hammer in my hand and am using it to drive these screws - it isn't working well so fix the screws philosophy. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question Why would you have mailboxes larger than 6GB? I think the philosophy of using e-mail as a file transfer/storage is flawed. There are too many other, better, more secure methods of transferring and storing files. We give a warning at 150 MB, and shut them down at 200MB. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: mail store size question I have mailboxes bigger than that... :P On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:16 AM, David.Ricci david.ri...@hwinstitute.com wrote: Is a 6 gig mail store large for 2003 sp2 exchange? David ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: mail store size question
So I guess you are telling us that you and Don share a tool? TMI! duck From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 12:48 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question Don and I both use the same thing, so the last time I did a 70 GB store recovery, it was under 1 minute. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:39 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question I guess I'm fortunate to have a manager that agrees with me then. What's the recovery time on a 500GB store? Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: mail store size question Why would I have 500GB mail stores as well? I can only make recommendations as to why its a bad thing... If in the end, they don't care and give me more money for more disk space, so be it... On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Joe Heaton jhea...@etp.ca.gov wrote: Why would you have mailboxes larger than 6GB? I think the philosophy of using e-mail as a file transfer/storage is flawed. There are too many other, better, more secure methods of transferring and storing files. We give a warning at 150 MB, and shut them down at 200MB. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: mail store size question I have mailboxes bigger than that... :P On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:16 AM, David.Ricci david.ri...@hwinstitute.com wrote: Is a 6 gig mail store large for 2003 sp2 exchange? David ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: mail store size question
Why would you have mailboxes larger than 6GB? I think the philosophy of using e-mail as a file transfer/storage is flawed. There are too many other, better, more secure methods of transferring and storing files. We give a warning at 150 MB, and shut them down at 200MB. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: mail store size question I have mailboxes bigger than that... :P On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:16 AM, David.Ricci david.ri...@hwinstitute.com wrote: Is a 6 gig mail store large for 2003 sp2 exchange? David ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: mail store size question
I agree. There are better places for file transfer and storage. But I don't think a 6GB mailbox is unreasonable at all though. An archiving solution may be beneficial in that case, but as for size consideration, 6GB is not that much anymore for long term positions of high email use. 150MB is fine for the factory worker, but less so for the sales manager or accounting executive. Every customer/company/client is different. What are the relative costs of using alternative storage or transfer mechanism? Are they less costly than the fixed investment in Exchange? Why is it 'flawed'? From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question Why would you have mailboxes larger than 6GB? I think the philosophy of using e-mail as a file transfer/storage is flawed. There are too many other, better, more secure methods of transferring and storing files. We give a warning at 150 MB, and shut them down at 200MB. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: mail store size question I have mailboxes bigger than that... :P On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:16 AM, David.Ricci david.ri...@hwinstitute.com wrote: Is a 6 gig mail store large for 2003 sp2 exchange? David ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Exchange 2007 and Powershell books
What are your favorite Exchange 2007 and newbie to Powershell books? I have always liked the McBee 24seven books. Larry ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: mail store size question
My personal opinion may be old fashioned, but I believe that e-mail is meant for communication, not file transfer. If I have a document I need to send to someone, fine, e-mail it. But if it's a video, or something of that nature, there are better ways to share that information. We're not factory workers here, we're office workers. Some of which have a rather high daily e-mail usage, with e-mailing contract changes back and forth all day, and having to keep all versions until a point is agreed on. They still don't have more than 200 MB... Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: William Lefkovics [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:55 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question I agree. There are better places for file transfer and storage. But I don't think a 6GB mailbox is unreasonable at all though. An archiving solution may be beneficial in that case, but as for size consideration, 6GB is not that much anymore for long term positions of high email use. 150MB is fine for the factory worker, but less so for the sales manager or accounting executive. Every customer/company/client is different. What are the relative costs of using alternative storage or transfer mechanism? Are they less costly than the fixed investment in Exchange? Why is it 'flawed'? From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question Why would you have mailboxes larger than 6GB? I think the philosophy of using e-mail as a file transfer/storage is flawed. There are too many other, better, more secure methods of transferring and storing files. We give a warning at 150 MB, and shut them down at 200MB. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: mail store size question I have mailboxes bigger than that... :P On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:16 AM, David.Ricci david.ri...@hwinstitute.com wrote: Is a 6 gig mail store large for 2003 sp2 exchange? David ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: mail store size question
There is no question that email management is (should be) a requirement at some level. However, where do you want to spend your dollars? Buying more disk? Or employee productive in not having to worry about it? These days, I'd suggest that buying more disk is often more cost effective. Not always, but often. You will always have egregious offenders that have to be reined in. (Heh. I just noticed: rained, reined, reigned. It's the simple things in life that make me smile.) Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question My personal opinion may be old fashioned, but I believe that e-mail is meant for communication, not file transfer. If I have a document I need to send to someone, fine, e-mail it. But if it's a video, or something of that nature, there are better ways to share that information. We're not factory workers here, we're office workers. Some of which have a rather high daily e-mail usage, with e-mailing contract changes back and forth all day, and having to keep all versions until a point is agreed on. They still don't have more than 200 MB. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: William Lefkovics [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:55 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question I agree. There are better places for file transfer and storage. But I don't think a 6GB mailbox is unreasonable at all though. An archiving solution may be beneficial in that case, but as for size consideration, 6GB is not that much anymore for long term positions of high email use. 150MB is fine for the factory worker, but less so for the sales manager or accounting executive. Every customer/company/client is different. What are the relative costs of using alternative storage or transfer mechanism? Are they less costly than the fixed investment in Exchange? Why is it 'flawed'? From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question Why would you have mailboxes larger than 6GB? I think the philosophy of using e-mail as a file transfer/storage is flawed. There are too many other, better, more secure methods of transferring and storing files. We give a warning at 150 MB, and shut them down at 200MB. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: mail store size question I have mailboxes bigger than that... :P On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:16 AM, David.Ricci david.ri...@hwinstitute.com wrote: Is a 6 gig mail store large for 2003 sp2 exchange? David ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: mail store size question
Not quite. I'm saying the bigger the better but that you still have to know how to control it. J Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:32 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question So what you are saying is that size doesn't matter as long as you know how to control it??? Shook's wife has been telling him that for years. :-P TVK From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question There is no question that email management is (should be) a requirement at some level. However, where do you want to spend your dollars? Buying more disk? Or employee productive in not having to worry about it? These days, I'd suggest that buying more disk is often more cost effective. Not always, but often. You will always have egregious offenders that have to be reined in. (Heh. I just noticed: rained, reined, reigned. It's the simple things in life that make me smile.) Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question My personal opinion may be old fashioned, but I believe that e-mail is meant for communication, not file transfer. If I have a document I need to send to someone, fine, e-mail it. But if it's a video, or something of that nature, there are better ways to share that information. We're not factory workers here, we're office workers. Some of which have a rather high daily e-mail usage, with e-mailing contract changes back and forth all day, and having to keep all versions until a point is agreed on. They still don't have more than 200 MB. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: William Lefkovics [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:55 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question I agree. There are better places for file transfer and storage. But I don't think a 6GB mailbox is unreasonable at all though. An archiving solution may be beneficial in that case, but as for size consideration, 6GB is not that much anymore for long term positions of high email use. 150MB is fine for the factory worker, but less so for the sales manager or accounting executive. Every customer/company/client is different. What are the relative costs of using alternative storage or transfer mechanism? Are they less costly than the fixed investment in Exchange? Why is it 'flawed'? From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question Why would you have mailboxes larger than 6GB? I think the philosophy of using e-mail as a file transfer/storage is flawed. There are too many other, better, more secure methods of transferring and storing files. We give a warning at 150 MB, and shut them down at 200MB. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: mail store size question I have mailboxes bigger than that... :P On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:16 AM, David.Ricci david.ri...@hwinstitute.com wrote: Is a 6 gig mail store large for 2003 sp2 exchange? David ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: mail store size question
But how do the costs compare? This is often the driving issue, not our personal preference for communication and storage. Do you have an alternative system that is more cost efficient for storage, backup, remote access, etc? That is often what determines the method put into use. It is easy to go over 200MB within a couple of years without sending large files back and forth. What do you use for archiving old communication? Maybe the 'delete' button is sufficient. What about users that have been on Exchange and with the company for over a decade? Where is their old content? If your system works in your case, that is great. I am not saying right or wrong here. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 11:10 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question My personal opinion may be old fashioned, but I believe that e-mail is meant for communication, not file transfer. If I have a document I need to send to someone, fine, e-mail it. But if it's a video, or something of that nature, there are better ways to share that information. We're not factory workers here, we're office workers. Some of which have a rather high daily e-mail usage, with e-mailing contract changes back and forth all day, and having to keep all versions until a point is agreed on. They still don't have more than 200 MB. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: William Lefkovics [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:55 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question I agree. There are better places for file transfer and storage. But I don't think a 6GB mailbox is unreasonable at all though. An archiving solution may be beneficial in that case, but as for size consideration, 6GB is not that much anymore for long term positions of high email use. 150MB is fine for the factory worker, but less so for the sales manager or accounting executive. Every customer/company/client is different. What are the relative costs of using alternative storage or transfer mechanism? Are they less costly than the fixed investment in Exchange? Why is it 'flawed'? From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question Why would you have mailboxes larger than 6GB? I think the philosophy of using e-mail as a file transfer/storage is flawed. There are too many other, better, more secure methods of transferring and storing files. We give a warning at 150 MB, and shut them down at 200MB. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: mail store size question I have mailboxes bigger than that... :P On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:16 AM, David.Ricci david.ri...@hwinstitute.com wrote: Is a 6 gig mail store large for 2003 sp2 exchange? David ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: mail store size question
Cool. I'll take a look. Thanks! On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Don Andrews don.andr...@safeway.com wrote: Tumbleweed's Secure Messenger (off-list demo available if you'd like) -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:07 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: mail store size question And what would that system be? On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:51 AM, Don Andrews don.andr...@safeway.com wrote: We start at 100 MB and increase as there is a proven business need. Transfer and storage of files is not considered a valid need - we have a secure, easy to use browser based file transfer system in house. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: mail store size question
Don't you mean Secure Transport??..:) S -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 12:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question Tumbleweed's Secure Messenger (off-list demo available if you'd like) -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:07 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: mail store size question And what would that system be? On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:51 AM, Don Andrews don.andr...@safeway.com wrote: We start at 100 MB and increase as there is a proven business need. Transfer and storage of files is not considered a valid need - we have a secure, easy to use browser based file transfer system in house. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: mail store size question
No - that's a different and bigger system. -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 11:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question Don't you mean Secure Transport??..:) S -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 12:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question Tumbleweed's Secure Messenger (off-list demo available if you'd like) -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:07 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: mail store size question And what would that system be? On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:51 AM, Don Andrews don.andr...@safeway.com wrote: We start at 100 MB and increase as there is a proven business need. Transfer and storage of files is not considered a valid need - we have a secure, easy to use browser based file transfer system in house. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: mail store size question
You should be arraigned for such homonymic enlightenment. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 11:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question There is no question that email management is (should be) a requirement at some level. However, where do you want to spend your dollars? Buying more disk? Or employee productive in not having to worry about it? These days, I'd suggest that buying more disk is often more cost effective. Not always, but often. You will always have egregious offenders that have to be reined in. (Heh. I just noticed: rained, reined, reigned. It's the simple things in life that make me smile.) Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question My personal opinion may be old fashioned, but I believe that e-mail is meant for communication, not file transfer. If I have a document I need to send to someone, fine, e-mail it. But if it's a video, or something of that nature, there are better ways to share that information. We're not factory workers here, we're office workers. Some of which have a rather high daily e-mail usage, with e-mailing contract changes back and forth all day, and having to keep all versions until a point is agreed on. They still don't have more than 200 MB. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: William Lefkovics [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:55 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question I agree. There are better places for file transfer and storage. But I don't think a 6GB mailbox is unreasonable at all though. An archiving solution may be beneficial in that case, but as for size consideration, 6GB is not that much anymore for long term positions of high email use. 150MB is fine for the factory worker, but less so for the sales manager or accounting executive. Every customer/company/client is different. What are the relative costs of using alternative storage or transfer mechanism? Are they less costly than the fixed investment in Exchange? Why is it 'flawed'? ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: mail store size question
Many good points, let me just interject one point as well: If you email files to a client, you have actual proof that the files were indeed sent to the client. If you give them a link, and they have to download the files themselves, then you don't really have proof that they have their hands on the files. Not sure how the argument stands up in court, but that philosophy in itself have saved us many times. All the files and communication are going to exist somewhere. Whether it be a mail server, or a file server or some other transmission method. The files still have to be stored, backed up, and archived. We found that allowing file to be sent via email greatly increased our workers productivity. Restore times are not greatly affected, and the costs are dirt cheap for us. Average mailbox size is about 6GB. Highest is 11GB right now. I'd rather enable my employees and let them be productive than to penny-pinch and play the quota-Nazi. It would be a different story if my users were filling up their mailboxes with personal items, and FW: RE: FW: Cool Video! emails from grandma. But they aren't. They are working hard, and efficiently. From: William Lefkovics [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:48 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question But how do the costs compare? This is often the driving issue, not our personal preference for communication and storage. Do you have an alternative system that is more cost efficient for storage, backup, remote access, etc? That is often what determines the method put into use. It is easy to go over 200MB within a couple of years without sending large files back and forth. What do you use for archiving old communication? Maybe the 'delete' button is sufficient. What about users that have been on Exchange and with the company for over a decade? Where is their old content? If your system works in your case, that is great. I am not saying right or wrong here. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 11:10 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question My personal opinion may be old fashioned, but I believe that e-mail is meant for communication, not file transfer. If I have a document I need to send to someone, fine, e-mail it. But if it's a video, or something of that nature, there are better ways to share that information. We're not factory workers here, we're office workers. Some of which have a rather high daily e-mail usage, with e-mailing contract changes back and forth all day, and having to keep all versions until a point is agreed on. They still don't have more than 200 MB... Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: William Lefkovics [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:55 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question I agree. There are better places for file transfer and storage. But I don't think a 6GB mailbox is unreasonable at all though. An archiving solution may be beneficial in that case, but as for size consideration, 6GB is not that much anymore for long term positions of high email use. 150MB is fine for the factory worker, but less so for the sales manager or accounting executive. Every customer/company/client is different. What are the relative costs of using alternative storage or transfer mechanism? Are they less costly than the fixed investment in Exchange? Why is it 'flawed'? From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question Why would you have mailboxes larger than 6GB? I think the philosophy of using e-mail as a file transfer/storage is flawed. There are too many other, better, more secure methods of transferring and storing files. We give a warning at 150 MB, and shut them down at 200MB. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: mail store size question I have mailboxes bigger than that... :P On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:16 AM, David.Ricci david.ri...@hwinstitute.com wrote: Is a 6 gig mail store large for 2003 sp2 exchange? David ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: mail store size question
Ahh, cool... -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question No - that's a different and bigger system. -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 11:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question Don't you mean Secure Transport??..:) S -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 12:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question Tumbleweed's Secure Messenger (off-list demo available if you'd like) -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:07 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: mail store size question And what would that system be? On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:51 AM, Don Andrews don.andr...@safeway.com wrote: We start at 100 MB and increase as there is a proven business need. Transfer and storage of files is not considered a valid need - we have a secure, easy to use browser based file transfer system in house. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Recommendations for a web ex alternative
Hello Everyone, Do any of you use a product besides webex for web demos or presentations? I need the product to be mac compatible. i will take any recommendations that you may have - hopefully they are cheaper and give you similar features. Regards, David ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Blackberry Internet Service
I am wondering if anyone has/knows of a way to block the ability to have users use their own Blackberry on a corporate network. I am not trying to keep them from using them completely but just to stop them until they sign some form of acceptable use policy so that we know who has what. I have been looking on Blackberries web site for information and from what I can tell this might be dependent upon the cell phone carrier they have. The other option I was thinking about is if they use the Blackberry Internet Services can I turn off the ability to synch like we can with Windows Mobile, that is inside of the Exchange Administrator MMC Thanks Jack Smrekar Appleton Area School District 920-993-7062 Ext. 2123 A+ N+ Server + ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~image001.gif
RE: Blackberry Internet Service
I was wondering if you could make that MCSA tag any larger From: SMREKAR, JACK [mailto:smre...@aasd.k12.wi.us] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Blackberry Internet Service I am wondering if anyone has/knows of a way to block the ability to have users use their own Blackberry on a corporate network. I am not trying to keep them from using them completely but just to stop them until they sign some form of acceptable use policy so that we know who has what. I have been looking on Blackberries web site for information and from what I can tell this might be dependent upon the cell phone carrier they have. The other option I was thinking about is if they use the Blackberry Internet Services can I turn off the ability to synch like we can with Windows Mobile, that is inside of the Exchange Administrator MMC Thanks Jack Smrekar Appleton Area School District 920-993-7062 Ext. 2123 A+ N+ Server + ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~image001.gif
RE: Recommendations for a web ex alternative
Yugma is MAC compatible: https://www.yugma.com/ Roger Wright Network Administrator Evatone, Inc. 727.572.7076 x388 _ From: David Baca [mailto:dbaca.gr...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:09 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Recommendations for a web ex alternative Hello Everyone, Do any of you use a product besides webex for web demos or presentations? I need the product to be mac compatible. i will take any recommendations that you may have - hopefully they are cheaper and give you similar features. Regards, David ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Blackberry Internet Service
Are you using Enterprise server??? If so, then someone would be adding them to the Corporate BES system, if you just have users with their own blackberry using BIS then technically this is not on your corporate network Jeff A. May, Blackberry Certified SA Client Server Engineer III Client Server Engineering/IT Messaging Services Mail Code - 100-99-08-20 E-Mail - j...@bbandt.com mailto:j...@bbandt.com From: SMREKAR, JACK [mailto:smre...@aasd.k12.wi.us] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Blackberry Internet Service I am wondering if anyone has/knows of a way to block the ability to have users use their own Blackberry on a corporate network. I am not trying to keep them from using them completely but just to stop them until they sign some form of acceptable use policy so that we know who has what. I have been looking on Blackberries web site for information and from what I can tell this might be dependent upon the cell phone carrier they have. The other option I was thinking about is if they use the Blackberry Internet Services can I turn off the ability to synch like we can with Windows Mobile, that is inside of the Exchange Administrator MMC Thanks Jack Smrekar Appleton Area School District 920-993-7062 Ext. 2123 A+ N+ Server + ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~image001.gif
RE: Exchange 2007 and Powershell books
You won't go wrong with McBee books. -Original Message- From: Didtel, Larry [mailto:larry.did...@stemilt.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 2007 and Powershell books What are your favorite Exchange 2007 and newbie to Powershell books? I have always liked the McBee 24seven books. Larry ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Blackberry Internet Service
Yes we have a BES server. But users are using the BIS service on the Blackberry site, I believe, to do a synch into our Exchange environment. They are picking up their emails and calendars and such from our Exchange servers. Jack Smrekar Appleton Area School District 920-993-7062 Ext. 2123 A+ N+ Server + From: May, Jeff [mailto:j...@bbandt.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry Internet Service Are you using Enterprise server??? If so, then someone would be adding them to the Corporate BES system, if you just have users with their own blackberry using BIS then technically this is not on your corporate network Jeff A. May, Blackberry Certified SA Client Server Engineer III Client Server Engineering/IT Messaging Services Mail Code - 100-99-08-20 E-Mail - j...@bbandt.com mailto:j...@bbandt.com From: SMREKAR, JACK [mailto:smre...@aasd.k12.wi.us] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Blackberry Internet Service I am wondering if anyone has/knows of a way to block the ability to have users use their own Blackberry on a corporate network. I am not trying to keep them from using them completely but just to stop them until they sign some form of acceptable use policy so that we know who has what. I have been looking on Blackberries web site for information and from what I can tell this might be dependent upon the cell phone carrier they have. The other option I was thinking about is if they use the Blackberry Internet Services can I turn off the ability to synch like we can with Windows Mobile, that is inside of the Exchange Administrator MMC Thanks Jack Smrekar Appleton Area School District 920-993-7062 Ext. 2123 A+ N+ Server + ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~image001.gif
RE: Blackberry Internet Service
That is what I do not know. From what I have found out is that you are able to setup and account on the Blackberry site, but I really think it goes to the provider of the phone, and then you setup where you want to get the email from. What I really do not know is if that is the same as using the Active synch on a Windows mobile type phone. Jack Smrekar Appleton Area School District 920-993-7062 Ext. 2123 A+ N+ Server + From: May, Jeff [mailto:j...@bbandt.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry Internet Service If they are doing this much like windows mobile then you can just disable the ability to wireless sync same as you would for mobile users. From: SMREKAR, JACK [mailto:smre...@aasd.k12.wi.us] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry Internet Service Yes we have a BES server. But users are using the BIS service on the Blackberry site, I believe, to do a synch into our Exchange environment. They are picking up their emails and calendars and such from our Exchange servers. Jack Smrekar Appleton Area School District 920-993-7062 Ext. 2123 A+ N+ Server + From: May, Jeff [mailto:j...@bbandt.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry Internet Service Are you using Enterprise server??? If so, then someone would be adding them to the Corporate BES system, if you just have users with their own blackberry using BIS then technically this is not on your corporate network Jeff A. May, Blackberry Certified SA Client Server Engineer III Client Server Engineering/IT Messaging Services Mail Code - 100-99-08-20 E-Mail - j...@bbandt.com mailto:j...@bbandt.com From: SMREKAR, JACK [mailto:smre...@aasd.k12.wi.us] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Blackberry Internet Service I am wondering if anyone has/knows of a way to block the ability to have users use their own Blackberry on a corporate network. I am not trying to keep them from using them completely but just to stop them until they sign some form of acceptable use policy so that we know who has what. I have been looking on Blackberries web site for information and from what I can tell this might be dependent upon the cell phone carrier they have. The other option I was thinking about is if they use the Blackberry Internet Services can I turn off the ability to synch like we can with Windows Mobile, that is inside of the Exchange Administrator MMC Thanks Jack Smrekar Appleton Area School District 920-993-7062 Ext. 2123 A+ N+ Server + ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~image001.gif
RE: Blackberry Internet Service
No, BIS just hits OWA. Thanks, Jeremy Phillips From: SMREKAR, JACK [mailto:smre...@aasd.k12.wi.us] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 12:44 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry Internet Service That is what I do not know. From what I have found out is that you are able to setup and account on the Blackberry site, but I really think it goes to the provider of the phone, and then you setup where you want to get the email from. What I really do not know is if that is the same as using the Active synch on a Windows mobile type phone. Jack Smrekar Appleton Area School District 920-993-7062 Ext. 2123 A+ N+ Server + [cid:image001.gif@01C98533.F3C414F0] From: May, Jeff [mailto:j...@bbandt.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry Internet Service If they are doing this much like windows mobile then you can just disable the ability to wireless sync same as you would for mobile users. From: SMREKAR, JACK [mailto:smre...@aasd.k12.wi.us] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry Internet Service Yes we have a BES server. But users are using the BIS service on the Blackberry site, I believe, to do a synch into our Exchange environment. They are picking up their emails and calendars and such from our Exchange servers. Jack Smrekar Appleton Area School District 920-993-7062 Ext. 2123 A+ N+ Server + [cid:image001.gif@01C98533.F3C414F0] From: May, Jeff [mailto:j...@bbandt.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry Internet Service Are you using Enterprise server??? If so, then someone would be adding them to the Corporate BES system, if you just have users with their own blackberry using BIS then technically this is not on your corporate network Jeff A. May, Blackberry Certified SA Client Server Engineer III Client Server Engineering/IT Messaging Services Mail Code - 100-99-08-20 E-Mail - j...@bbandt.commailto:j...@bbandt.com From: SMREKAR, JACK [mailto:smre...@aasd.k12.wi.us] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Blackberry Internet Service I am wondering if anyone has/knows of a way to block the ability to have users use their own Blackberry on a corporate network. I am not trying to keep them from using them completely but just to stop them until they sign some form of acceptable use policy so that we know who has what. I have been looking on Blackberries web site for information and from what I can tell this might be dependent upon the cell phone carrier they have. The other option I was thinking about is if they use the Blackberry Internet Services can I turn off the ability to synch like we can with Windows Mobile, that is inside of the Exchange Administrator MMC Thanks Jack Smrekar Appleton Area School District 920-993-7062 Ext. 2123 A+ N+ Server + [cid:image001.gif@01C98533.F3C414F0] ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~inline: image001.gif
RE: Blackberry Internet Service
Here is a good article that may help if they are going to OWA and not AS.. http://www.blackberryforums.com/bes-admin-corner/139384-disable-bis-acce ss-exchange-server.html Also, if you have particular users you know are doing it you could always disable OWA and/or AS and then see what they complain about not workingThis could at least help you determine how they are connecting. Could also check the logs to see how they are connecting using the W3SVC logs on your front end servers From: SMREKAR, JACK [mailto:smre...@aasd.k12.wi.us] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:44 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry Internet Service That is what I do not know. From what I have found out is that you are able to setup and account on the Blackberry site, but I really think it goes to the provider of the phone, and then you setup where you want to get the email from. What I really do not know is if that is the same as using the Active synch on a Windows mobile type phone. Jack Smrekar Appleton Area School District 920-993-7062 Ext. 2123 A+ N+ Server + From: May, Jeff [mailto:j...@bbandt.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry Internet Service If they are doing this much like windows mobile then you can just disable the ability to wireless sync same as you would for mobile users. From: SMREKAR, JACK [mailto:smre...@aasd.k12.wi.us] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry Internet Service Yes we have a BES server. But users are using the BIS service on the Blackberry site, I believe, to do a synch into our Exchange environment. They are picking up their emails and calendars and such from our Exchange servers. Jack Smrekar Appleton Area School District 920-993-7062 Ext. 2123 A+ N+ Server + From: May, Jeff [mailto:j...@bbandt.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry Internet Service Are you using Enterprise server??? If so, then someone would be adding them to the Corporate BES system, if you just have users with their own blackberry using BIS then technically this is not on your corporate network Jeff A. May, Blackberry Certified SA Client Server Engineer III Client Server Engineering/IT Messaging Services Mail Code - 100-99-08-20 E-Mail - j...@bbandt.com mailto:j...@bbandt.com From: SMREKAR, JACK [mailto:smre...@aasd.k12.wi.us] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Blackberry Internet Service I am wondering if anyone has/knows of a way to block the ability to have users use their own Blackberry on a corporate network. I am not trying to keep them from using them completely but just to stop them until they sign some form of acceptable use policy so that we know who has what. I have been looking on Blackberries web site for information and from what I can tell this might be dependent upon the cell phone carrier they have. The other option I was thinking about is if they use the Blackberry Internet Services can I turn off the ability to synch like we can with Windows Mobile, that is inside of the Exchange Administrator MMC Thanks Jack Smrekar Appleton Area School District 920-993-7062 Ext. 2123 A+ N+ Server + ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~image001.gif
Re: mail store size question
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: Many good points, let me just interject one point as well: If you email files to a client, you have actual proof that the files were indeed sent to the client. If you give them a link, and they have to download the files themselves, then you don't really have proof that they have their hands on the files. What, you don't log your web server requests? snip I sorta agree with the rest of this. I have a 10mbyte inbound limit for our mail gateway. If I could, I'd throttle it to 1mbyte, but I'd get lynched. Outbound, E2k3 has a 20mbyte limit, and I go with that, though I'd put it at 1mbyte too, if I could. But I don't put limits on mailboxes. Or, rather, if I get a complaint from someone that their mailbox is full, I remove the limit. The standard limit is 100mbytes. I get few complaints with that. If find that those who complain are the ones who legitimately need their limits removed, such as legal/finance staff, tech support folks, and engineering folks. Kurt ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Ex2003 Async Event Sink: OnDelete works, OnSave doesn't
I'm writing/testing a managed code Store Event Sink which builds fine and
appears to be registered properly with a public folder. The sink contains
test code which indicates that OnDelete events are being fired by logging
to the app event log and writing to a txt file.
Bizarrely, OnSave events aren't firing when a message delivery occurs to
the folder. There's plenty to read on Google when nothing
fires/registration/COM+ probs but no love when one method works and the
other doesn't. I also verified that the sink's registration is fine in
the store's SystemMailbox{GUID}.
I realize this might be beyond the average admin type question but does
anyone have a clue where to look next?
~JasonG
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RE: mail store size question
Hmm, let see - if we increase our quota from 100meg (or 200 or whatever) to 6 GB - times 60K+ users - that's a lot of disk. ..and I think your proof ends with delivery to the next server your relay or mail server hands it off to. When we give them a link, a system generated notification comes back when they open the message/file(s) to read or download. Still not sure how that stands up in court. We currently do no archiving. But - every situation is different. From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 12:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question Many good points, let me just interject one point as well: If you email files to a client, you have actual proof that the files were indeed sent to the client. If you give them a link, and they have to download the files themselves, then you don't really have proof that they have their hands on the files. Not sure how the argument stands up in court, but that philosophy in itself have saved us many times. All the files and communication are going to exist somewhere. Whether it be a mail server, or a file server or some other transmission method. The files still have to be stored, backed up, and archived. We found that allowing file to be sent via email greatly increased our workers productivity. Restore times are not greatly affected, and the costs are dirt cheap for us. Average mailbox size is about 6GB. Highest is 11GB right now. I'd rather enable my employees and let them be productive than to penny-pinch and play the quota-Nazi. It would be a different story if my users were filling up their mailboxes with personal items, and FW: RE: FW: Cool Video! emails from grandma. But they aren't. They are working hard, and efficiently. From: William Lefkovics [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:48 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question But how do the costs compare? This is often the driving issue, not our personal preference for communication and storage. Do you have an alternative system that is more cost efficient for storage, backup, remote access, etc? That is often what determines the method put into use. It is easy to go over 200MB within a couple of years without sending large files back and forth. What do you use for archiving old communication? Maybe the 'delete' button is sufficient. What about users that have been on Exchange and with the company for over a decade? Where is their old content? If your system works in your case, that is great. I am not saying right or wrong here. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 11:10 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question My personal opinion may be old fashioned, but I believe that e-mail is meant for communication, not file transfer. If I have a document I need to send to someone, fine, e-mail it. But if it's a video, or something of that nature, there are better ways to share that information. We're not factory workers here, we're office workers. Some of which have a rather high daily e-mail usage, with e-mailing contract changes back and forth all day, and having to keep all versions until a point is agreed on. They still don't have more than 200 MB... Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: William Lefkovics [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:55 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question I agree. There are better places for file transfer and storage. But I don't think a 6GB mailbox is unreasonable at all though. An archiving solution may be beneficial in that case, but as for size consideration, 6GB is not that much anymore for long term positions of high email use. 150MB is fine for the factory worker, but less so for the sales manager or accounting executive. Every customer/company/client is different. What are the relative costs of using alternative storage or transfer mechanism? Are they less costly than the fixed investment in Exchange? Why is it 'flawed'? From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question Why would you have mailboxes larger than 6GB? I think the philosophy of using e-mail as a file transfer/storage is flawed. There are too many other, better, more secure methods of transferring and storing files. We give a warning at 150 MB, and shut them down at 200MB. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: mail store size question I have mailboxes bigger than that... :P On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:16 AM, David.Ricci
RE: Recommendations for a web ex alternative
We use Live Meeting - SHOULD be mac compatible - at least the web version - but have not tested it. From: David Baca [mailto:dbaca.gr...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 12:09 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Recommendations for a web ex alternative Hello Everyone, Do any of you use a product besides webex for web demos or presentations? I need the product to be mac compatible. i will take any recommendations that you may have - hopefully they are cheaper and give you similar features. Regards, David ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Exchange 2007 and Powershell books
Not to mention that Mr. Lefkovics' Exchange 2007 book is pretty good. PowerShell - the choices are many. Truth be told, like any programming language, you probably need to just dive in. I started out with PowerShell:TFM (first edition; the second edition fixed many errors) then went to Payette. That worked well for me. For Exchange, I like Ilse Van Criekenge's Exchange Management Shell:TFM. It does have a serious miss in the *-ExchangeCertificate cmdlets, but those are covered quite well in the standard documentation. ObDisclaimer: I know all of these people except Payette at various levels. :-) Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:40 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 and Powershell books You won't go wrong with McBee books. -Original Message- From: Didtel, Larry [mailto:larry.did...@stemilt.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 2007 and Powershell books What are your favorite Exchange 2007 and newbie to Powershell books? I have always liked the McBee 24seven books. Larry ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: mail store size question
A 500 GB snapshot restores as fast as a 100 GB one does. From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: mail store size question With a snapshot, not very long at all... ;o) On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Joe Heaton jhea...@etp.ca.gov wrote: I guess I'm fortunate to have a manager that agrees with me then. What's the recovery time on a 500GB store? Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: mail store size question Why would I have 500GB mail stores as well? I can only make recommendations as to why its a bad thing... If in the end, they don't care and give me more money for more disk space, so be it... On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Joe Heaton jhea...@etp.ca.gov wrote: Why would you have mailboxes larger than 6GB? I think the philosophy of using e-mail as a file transfer/storage is flawed. There are too many other, better, more secure methods of transferring and storing files. We give a warning at 150 MB, and shut them down at 200MB. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: mail store size question I have mailboxes bigger than that... :P On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:16 AM, David.Ricci david.ri...@hwinstitute.com wrote: Is a 6 gig mail store large for 2003 sp2 exchange? David ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: mail store size question
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:16 AM, David.Ricci david.ri...@hwinstitute.com wrote: Is a 6 gig mail store large for 2003 sp2 exchange? It depends. Most likely, there is no problem with an IS that size. But you don't give us much information to work with. We're not psychic. Exchange itself can handle ISes in the hundreds of gigabytes. Exchange 2003 Standard is limited to 16 GB prior to SP2. With SP2, that's increased to 75 GB, although I can't remember if you have to set a registry key to ask for it. (I don't think so; I could be wrong.) So in terms of software, you're fine. Does the server have enough RAM and disk to provide acceptable performance with an IS of that size? Again, it prolly does, but for all we know you're running on ten year old hardware. Does your tape drive or whatever have enough storage capacity to back that up within your backup period? What about time-to-restore in the event of a disaster recovery scenario? -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Strange e-mail issue with one user
The user only has one rule, which is not looking at Sent Items. I checked the Outlook SecureTemp folder, and there was about 26MB, so I cleared it out. We'll see if that helps at all. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel -Original Message- From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 1:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Strange e-mail issue with one user Within our agency. I can't imagine it being a rule, as it is an intermittent issue. Sometimes, the mail will go, others it sits in the Sent Items a few seconds and disappears. Also, it seems that if she adds another document to the e-mail, such as a Word doc, then it goes. Haven't tested multiple times for consistency on that one though. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: mail store size question
-Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: mail store size question I have a 10mbyte inbound limit for our mail gateway. If I could, I'd throttle it to 1mbyte, but I'd get lynched. A 1MB limit would block just the signatures on some e-mails from this list wouldn't it? :) Webster ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: mail store size question
What kind of browser based file transfer system do you have? Our Marketing dept loves to send around huge tiff files. Thank goodness for SIS. Thanks Travis -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:51 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: mail store size question We start at 100 MB and increase as there is a proven business need. Transfer and storage of files is not considered a valid need - we have a secure, easy to use browser based file transfer system in house. - Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld - Original Message - From: Fred Sawyer fr...@sunbelt-software.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Mon Feb 02 07:38:27 2009 Subject: RE: mail store size question Is a 6 gig mailbox considered large? ;-) With the growing trend of email being utilized as a convenient file transfer system between companies what would you list members consider to be a fair mailbox quota? Fred From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question Not at all. From: David.Ricci [mailto:david.ri...@hwinstitute.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:17 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: mail store size question Is a 6 gig mail store large for 2003 sp2 exchange? David ... ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Exchange 2007 and Powershell books
Train Signal has newbie CDs for $197 Coworker loves em -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 and Powershell books Not to mention that Mr. Lefkovics' Exchange 2007 book is pretty good. PowerShell - the choices are many. Truth be told, like any programming language, you probably need to just dive in. I started out with PowerShell:TFM (first edition; the second edition fixed many errors) then went to Payette. That worked well for me. For Exchange, I like Ilse Van Criekenge's Exchange Management Shell:TFM. It does have a serious miss in the *-ExchangeCertificate cmdlets, but those are covered quite well in the standard documentation. ObDisclaimer: I know all of these people except Payette at various levels. :-) Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:40 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 and Powershell books You won't go wrong with McBee books. -Original Message- From: Didtel, Larry [mailto:larry.did...@stemilt.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 2007 and Powershell books What are your favorite Exchange 2007 and newbie to Powershell books? I have always liked the McBee 24seven books. Larry ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information transmitted in this message is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this document. Thank you. Butler Animal Health Supply ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Blackberry Internet Service
If they are doing this much like windows mobile then you can just disable the ability to wireless sync same as you would for mobile users. From: SMREKAR, JACK [mailto:smre...@aasd.k12.wi.us] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry Internet Service Yes we have a BES server. But users are using the BIS service on the Blackberry site, I believe, to do a synch into our Exchange environment. They are picking up their emails and calendars and such from our Exchange servers. Jack Smrekar Appleton Area School District 920-993-7062 Ext. 2123 A+ N+ Server + From: May, Jeff [mailto:j...@bbandt.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry Internet Service Are you using Enterprise server??? If so, then someone would be adding them to the Corporate BES system, if you just have users with their own blackberry using BIS then technically this is not on your corporate network Jeff A. May, Blackberry Certified SA Client Server Engineer III Client Server Engineering/IT Messaging Services Mail Code - 100-99-08-20 E-Mail - j...@bbandt.com mailto:j...@bbandt.com From: SMREKAR, JACK [mailto:smre...@aasd.k12.wi.us] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Blackberry Internet Service I am wondering if anyone has/knows of a way to block the ability to have users use their own Blackberry on a corporate network. I am not trying to keep them from using them completely but just to stop them until they sign some form of acceptable use policy so that we know who has what. I have been looking on Blackberries web site for information and from what I can tell this might be dependent upon the cell phone carrier they have. The other option I was thinking about is if they use the Blackberry Internet Services can I turn off the ability to synch like we can with Windows Mobile, that is inside of the Exchange Administrator MMC Thanks Jack Smrekar Appleton Area School District 920-993-7062 Ext. 2123 A+ N+ Server + ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~image001.gif
RE: mail store size question
Tumbleweed's Secure Messenger (off-list demo available if you'd like) -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:07 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: mail store size question And what would that system be? On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:51 AM, Don Andrews don.andr...@safeway.com wrote: We start at 100 MB and increase as there is a proven business need. Transfer and storage of files is not considered a valid need - we have a secure, easy to use browser based file transfer system in house. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: mail store size question
Tumbleweed's Secure Messenger (off-list demo available if you'd like) We also limit email to 10 meg - internal as well as external - and frown on much over a meg. -Original Message- From: Travis Robinson [mailto:travis.robin...@octanner.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question What kind of browser based file transfer system do you have? Our Marketing dept loves to send around huge tiff files. Thank goodness for SIS. Thanks Travis -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:51 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: mail store size question We start at 100 MB and increase as there is a proven business need. Transfer and storage of files is not considered a valid need - we have a secure, easy to use browser based file transfer system in house. - Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld - Original Message - From: Fred Sawyer fr...@sunbelt-software.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Mon Feb 02 07:38:27 2009 Subject: RE: mail store size question Is a 6 gig mailbox considered large? ;-) With the growing trend of email being utilized as a convenient file transfer system between companies what would you list members consider to be a fair mailbox quota? Fred From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question Not at all. From: David.Ricci [mailto:david.ri...@hwinstitute.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:17 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: mail store size question Is a 6 gig mail store large for 2003 sp2 exchange? David ... ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: mail store size question
I have mailboxes bigger than that... :P On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:16 AM, David.Ricci david.ri...@hwinstitute.comwrote: Is a 6 gig mail store large for 2003 sp2 exchange? David ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Blackberry Internet Service
Disable their account for OWA. Also make sure you do not have POP3 enabled. From: SMREKAR, JACK [mailto:smre...@aasd.k12.wi.us] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Blackberry Internet Service I am wondering if anyone has/knows of a way to block the ability to have users use their own Blackberry on a corporate network. I am not trying to keep them from using them completely but just to stop them until they sign some form of acceptable use policy so that we know who has what. I have been looking on Blackberries web site for information and from what I can tell this might be dependent upon the cell phone carrier they have. The other option I was thinking about is if they use the Blackberry Internet Services can I turn off the ability to synch like we can with Windows Mobile, that is inside of the Exchange Administrator MMC Thanks Jack Smrekar Appleton Area School District 920-993-7062 Ext. 2123 A+ N+ Server + [cid:image001.gif@01C9855B.FA660D40] ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~inline: image001.gif
RE: MX Logic for Archiving
A peer had recommended GFI, and I'm looking into that. It's a lot less expensive than MX Logic, but on the other hand I have to maintain everything on my end. I kind of like the idea of contracting that out, and having someone else responsible for redundancy, backups, software updates/maintenance, storage, etc. John -Original Message- From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:li...@levelfive.us] Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 12:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MX Logic for Archiving Without knowing your requirements: Mailarchiva Gfi mail archiver Proxmox -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 3:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: MX Logic for Archiving Anyone using MX Logic for Exchange e-mail archiving? If so, what are your thoughts? John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Exchange 2007 and Powershell books
Do you think a copy of the original O'Reilly Toad book on Monad will be worth anything some day? -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 and Powershell books Not to mention that Mr. Lefkovics' Exchange 2007 book is pretty good. PowerShell - the choices are many. Truth be told, like any programming language, you probably need to just dive in. I started out with PowerShell:TFM (first edition; the second edition fixed many errors) then went to Payette. That worked well for me. For Exchange, I like Ilse Van Criekenge's Exchange Management Shell:TFM. It does have a serious miss in the *-ExchangeCertificate cmdlets, but those are covered quite well in the standard documentation. ObDisclaimer: I know all of these people except Payette at various levels. :-) Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:40 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 and Powershell books You won't go wrong with McBee books. -Original Message- From: Didtel, Larry [mailto:larry.did...@stemilt.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 2007 and Powershell books What are your favorite Exchange 2007 and newbie to Powershell books? I have always liked the McBee 24seven books. Larry ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: mail store size question
Not at all. From: David.Ricci [mailto:david.ri...@hwinstitute.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:17 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: mail store size question Is a 6 gig mail store large for 2003 sp2 exchange? David ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: mail store size question
So what you are saying is that size doesn't matter as long as you know how to control it??? Shook's wife has been telling him that for years. :-P TVK From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question There is no question that email management is (should be) a requirement at some level. However, where do you want to spend your dollars? Buying more disk? Or employee productive in not having to worry about it? These days, I'd suggest that buying more disk is often more cost effective. Not always, but often. You will always have egregious offenders that have to be reined in. (Heh. I just noticed: rained, reined, reigned. It's the simple things in life that make me smile...) Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question My personal opinion may be old fashioned, but I believe that e-mail is meant for communication, not file transfer. If I have a document I need to send to someone, fine, e-mail it. But if it's a video, or something of that nature, there are better ways to share that information. We're not factory workers here, we're office workers. Some of which have a rather high daily e-mail usage, with e-mailing contract changes back and forth all day, and having to keep all versions until a point is agreed on. They still don't have more than 200 MB... Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: William Lefkovics [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:55 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question I agree. There are better places for file transfer and storage. But I don't think a 6GB mailbox is unreasonable at all though. An archiving solution may be beneficial in that case, but as for size consideration, 6GB is not that much anymore for long term positions of high email use. 150MB is fine for the factory worker, but less so for the sales manager or accounting executive. Every customer/company/client is different. What are the relative costs of using alternative storage or transfer mechanism? Are they less costly than the fixed investment in Exchange? Why is it 'flawed'? From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question Why would you have mailboxes larger than 6GB? I think the philosophy of using e-mail as a file transfer/storage is flawed. There are too many other, better, more secure methods of transferring and storing files. We give a warning at 150 MB, and shut them down at 200MB. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: mail store size question I have mailboxes bigger than that... :P On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:16 AM, David.Ricci david.ri...@hwinstitute.commailto:david.ri...@hwinstitute.com wrote: Is a 6 gig mail store large for 2003 sp2 exchange? David ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: MX Logic for Archiving
Iron Mountain might be an option if you're looking for a hosted solution. I believe they have something for Exchange archiving. Sean Rector, MCSE -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:17 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MX Logic for Archiving Yeah, I did an online demo with them a little while back. I can't remember their pricing structure. Again, though, I do like the idea of paying to have someone else maintain/manage everything (if we can afford it). John -Original Message- From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MX Logic for Archiving Have you looked at Sunbelt's Exchange Archiver? Sean Rector, MCSE -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MX Logic for Archiving A peer had recommended GFI, and I'm looking into that. It's a lot less expensive than MX Logic, but on the other hand I have to maintain everything on my end. I kind of like the idea of contracting that out, and having someone else responsible for redundancy, backups, software updates/maintenance, storage, etc. John -Original Message- From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:li...@levelfive.us] Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 12:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: MX Logic for Archiving Without knowing your requirements: Mailarchiva Gfi mail archiver Proxmox -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 3:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: MX Logic for Archiving Anyone using MX Logic for Exchange e-mail archiving? If so, what are your thoughts? John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ 2008-2009 Season: Tosca | The Barber of Seville Recently Announced: Virginia Opera's 35th Anniversary Season 2009-2010 Visit us online at www.vaopera.org or call 1.866.OPERA.VA This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). Unless otherwise specified, persons unnamed as recipients may not read, distribute, copy or alter this e-mail. Any views or opinions expressed in this e-mail belong to the author and may not necessarily represent those of Virginia Opera. Although precautions have been taken to ensure no viruses are present, Virginia Opera cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that may arise from the use of this e-mail or attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ 2008-2009 Season: Tosca | The Barber of Seville Recently Announced: Virginia Opera's 35th Anniversary Season 2009-2010 Visit us online at www.vaopera.org or call 1.866.OPERA.VA This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). Unless otherwise specified, persons unnamed as recipients may not read, distribute, copy or alter this e-mail. Any views or opinions expressed in this e-mail belong to the author and may not necessarily represent those of Virginia Opera. Although precautions have been taken to ensure no viruses are present, Virginia Opera cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that may arise from the use of this e-mail or attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Exchange 2007 and Powershell books
About as much as a 1st edition of PowerShell:TFM probably. :-) Truth be told, I'm continually amazed at how rich PowerShell is and how much can be done at SO many different levels. While I've been over the language diagram/description in detail and Payette's book and Snover's blogs and whitepapers, I am constantly learning new and better ways to do things. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php -Original Message- From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 5:36 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 and Powershell books Do you think a copy of the original O'Reilly Toad book on Monad will be worth anything some day? -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 and Powershell books Not to mention that Mr. Lefkovics' Exchange 2007 book is pretty good. PowerShell - the choices are many. Truth be told, like any programming language, you probably need to just dive in. I started out with PowerShell:TFM (first edition; the second edition fixed many errors) then went to Payette. That worked well for me. For Exchange, I like Ilse Van Criekenge's Exchange Management Shell:TFM. It does have a serious miss in the *-ExchangeCertificate cmdlets, but those are covered quite well in the standard documentation. ObDisclaimer: I know all of these people except Payette at various levels. :-) Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:40 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 and Powershell books You won't go wrong with McBee books. -Original Message- From: Didtel, Larry [mailto:larry.did...@stemilt.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 2007 and Powershell books What are your favorite Exchange 2007 and newbie to Powershell books? I have always liked the McBee 24seven books. Larry ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Exchange 2007 and Powershell books
And they aren't bad either. http://hellomate.typepad.com/exchange/2008/08/train-signal-ex.html I liked Ilse's Exchange Management Shell book, but not so much the layout and organization, but it isn't really a PowerShell book. Were you looking to master PowerShell as a whole, or just Exchange management functionality? -Original Message- From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerahs.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:12 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 and Powershell books Train Signal has newbie CDs for $197 Coworker loves em -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 and Powershell books Not to mention that Mr. Lefkovics' Exchange 2007 book is pretty good. PowerShell - the choices are many. Truth be told, like any programming language, you probably need to just dive in. I started out with PowerShell:TFM (first edition; the second edition fixed many errors) then went to Payette. That worked well for me. For Exchange, I like Ilse Van Criekenge's Exchange Management Shell:TFM. It does have a serious miss in the *-ExchangeCertificate cmdlets, but those are covered quite well in the standard documentation. ObDisclaimer: I know all of these people except Payette at various levels. :-) Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:40 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 and Powershell books You won't go wrong with McBee books. -Original Message- From: Didtel, Larry [mailto:larry.did...@stemilt.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 2007 and Powershell books What are your favorite Exchange 2007 and newbie to Powershell books? I have always liked the McBee 24seven books. Larry ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information transmitted in this message is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this document. Thank you. Butler Animal Health Supply ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Exchange 2007 and Powershell books
I know the feeling. I have to resist the urge to go back and re-write stuff, even though it's working perfectly, just because it looks ugly now. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 and Powershell books About as much as a 1st edition of PowerShell:TFM probably. :-) Truth be told, I'm continually amazed at how rich PowerShell is and how much can be done at SO many different levels. While I've been over the language diagram/description in detail and Payette's book and Snover's blogs and whitepapers, I am constantly learning new and better ways to do things. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php -Original Message- From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 5:36 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 and Powershell books Do you think a copy of the original O'Reilly Toad book on Monad will be worth anything some day? -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 and Powershell books Not to mention that Mr. Lefkovics' Exchange 2007 book is pretty good. PowerShell - the choices are many. Truth be told, like any programming language, you probably need to just dive in. I started out with PowerShell:TFM (first edition; the second edition fixed many errors) then went to Payette. That worked well for me. For Exchange, I like Ilse Van Criekenge's Exchange Management Shell:TFM. It does have a serious miss in the *-ExchangeCertificate cmdlets, but those are covered quite well in the standard documentation. ObDisclaimer: I know all of these people except Payette at various levels. :-) Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:will...@lefkovics.net] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:40 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 and Powershell books You won't go wrong with McBee books. -Original Message- From: Didtel, Larry [mailto:larry.did...@stemilt.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 2007 and Powershell books What are your favorite Exchange 2007 and newbie to Powershell books? I have always liked the McBee 24seven books. Larry ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam
RE: Information Store for Exchange 2003 Issue
What do you seen in the event logs? Increase your level of logging (temporarily) and then try to restart the services and see what events show up. From: Martey, Emmanuel E [mailto:mart...@stanbic.com.gh] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:50 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Information Store for Exchange 2003 Issue Hi Friends, I have an Exchange 2003 server and occasionally the Information store and Stack service fail to start. When I try re-starting it I get the message starting but Timeout!. Thanks. Emmanuel Martey, IT Infrastructure Stanbic Bank Ghana, 2nd Floor, Valco Trust Hse. Ridge - Accra. Ghana. Mob. 233-244324966 Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?. - Abraham Lincolm. ___ Standard Bank email Disclaimer and confidentiality note This e-mail, its attachments and any rights attaching hereto are, unless the content clearly indicates otherwise, the property of Standard Bank Group Limited and its subsidiaries. It is confidential, private and intended for only the addressee. Should you not be the addressee and receive this e-mail by mistake, kindly notify the sender, and delete this e-mail immediately. Do not disclose or use it in any way. Views and opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the sender unless clearly stated as those of Standard Bank Group. Standard Bank Group accepts no liability for any loss or damages howsoever incurred, or suffered, resulting or arising, from the use of this email or its attachments. Standard Bank Group does not warrant the integrity of this e-mail nor that it is free of errors, viruses, interception or interference. Licensed divisions of the Standard Bank Group are authorised financial services providers in terms of the Financial Advisory and Intermediary Services Act, No 37 of 2002 (FAIS). For information about the Standard Bank Group visit our website http://www.standardbank.com http://www.standardbank.com http://www.standardbank.co.za ___ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: mail store size question
Thanks ALL, Actually my assistant read it wrong and we have a 68 gig mail store. So I think the only quick fix is to create a new mail store and start to move email box's over. I read the max is 75 gig for a mail store. David From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question That's the trick question...It all depends on the amount of storage you have and / or the IT policy in place. S. From: Fred Sawyer [mailto:fr...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question Is a 6 gig mailbox considered large? ;-) With the growing trend of email being utilized as a convenient file transfer system between companies what would you list members consider to be a fair mailbox quota? Fred From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question Not at all. From: David.Ricci [mailto:david.ri...@hwinstitute.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:17 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: mail store size question Is a 6 gig mail store large for 2003 sp2 exchange? David ... ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
mail store size question
Is a 6 gig mail store large for 2003 sp2 exchange? David ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: mail store size question
That's the trick question...It all depends on the amount of storage you have and / or the IT policy in place. S. From: Fred Sawyer [mailto:fr...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question Is a 6 gig mailbox considered large? ;-) With the growing trend of email being utilized as a convenient file transfer system between companies what would you list members consider to be a fair mailbox quota? Fred From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question Not at all. From: David.Ricci [mailto:david.ri...@hwinstitute.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:17 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: mail store size question Is a 6 gig mail store large for 2003 sp2 exchange? David ... ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: mail store size question
Is a 6 gig mailbox considered large? ;-) With the growing trend of email being utilized as a convenient file transfer system between companies what would you list members consider to be a fair mailbox quota? Fred From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail store size question Not at all. From: David.Ricci [mailto:david.ri...@hwinstitute.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:17 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: mail store size question Is a 6 gig mail store large for 2003 sp2 exchange? David ... ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Information Store for Exchange 2003 Issue
Hi Friends, I have an Exchange 2003 server and occasionally the Information store and Stack service fail to start. When I try re-starting it I get the message starting but Timeout!. Thanks. Emmanuel Martey, IT Infrastructure Stanbic Bank Ghana, 2nd Floor, Valco Trust Hse. Ridge - Accra. Ghana. Mob. 233-244324966 Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?. - Abraham Lincolm. _ Standard Bank email Disclaimer and confidentiality note This e-mail, its attachments and any rights attaching hereto are, unless the content clearly indicates otherwise, the property of Standard Bank Group Limited and its subsidiaries. It is confidential, private and intended for only the addressee. Should you not be the addressee and receive this e-mail by mistake, kindly notify the sender, and delete this e-mail immediately. Do not disclose or use it in any way. Views and opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the sender unless clearly stated as those of Standard Bank Group. Standard Bank Group accepts no liability for any loss or damages howsoever incurred, or suffered, resulting, or arising, from the use of this email or its attachments. Standard Bank Group does not warrant the integrity of this e-mail nor that it is free of errors, viruses, interception or interference. Licensed divisions of the Standard Bank Group are authorised financial services providers in terms of the Financial Advisory and Intermediary Services Act, No 37 of 2002 (FAIS). For information about the Standard Bank Group visit our website http://www.standardbank.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: mail store size question
And your point is? :) On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Webster carlwebs...@gmail.com wrote: -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: mail store size question I have a 10mbyte inbound limit for our mail gateway. If I could, I'd throttle it to 1mbyte, but I'd get lynched. A 1MB limit would block just the signatures on some e-mails from this list wouldn't it? :) Webster ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: mail store size question
Email autoerotica. Got it choked to 10mb but would like to get it down to 1 for some big fun. All I can see =) M - Original Message - From: Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:03 PM Subject: Re: mail store size question And your point is? :) On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Webster carlwebs...@gmail.com wrote: -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: mail store size question I have a 10mbyte inbound limit for our mail gateway. If I could, I'd throttle it to 1mbyte, but I'd get lynched. A 1MB limit would block just the signatures on some e-mails from this list wouldn't it? :) Webster ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Online backup solution
I came to a company that has very poor backup practices. I figured online is the quickest way is to get into a backup solution. I have been looking at companies like Iron Mountain (very expensive), Sungard, vaultUSA for example. Anyone have good experience online backup solution, especially for exchange recovery. I need to back up about 1.2 TB of total data. Thank you, David ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Blackberry Internet Service
What version of BES? 4.0.6+? OS 4.2+? IT Policy - Security Policy Group - Firewall Block Incoming Messages - Select BIS Msgs. Boom Roasted. - John Barsodi From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry Internet Service Disable their account for OWA. Also make sure you do not have POP3 enabled. From: SMREKAR, JACK [mailto:smre...@aasd.k12.wi.us] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Blackberry Internet Service I am wondering if anyone has/knows of a way to block the ability to have users use their own Blackberry on a corporate network. I am not trying to keep them from using them completely but just to stop them until they sign some form of acceptable use policy so that we know who has what. I have been looking on Blackberries web site for information and from what I can tell this might be dependent upon the cell phone carrier they have. The other option I was thinking about is if they use the Blackberry Internet Services can I turn off the ability to synch like we can with Windows Mobile, that is inside of the Exchange Administrator MMC Thanks Jack Smrekar Appleton Area School District 920-993-7062 Ext. 2123 A+ N+ Server + [cid:image001.gif@01C98563.2E6928F0] ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~inline: image001.gif
Re: Blackberry Internet Service
If I understand correctly (big if), the users in question are BIS users, not BES users. This setting would as I understand it, prevent the BES users from using BIS but would not have any effect on BIS only users. (Or have I confused my BIS/BES/Buzzwords) - Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld - Original Message - From: Barsodi.John john.bars...@igt.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Mon Feb 02 19:23:46 2009 Subject: RE: Blackberry Internet Service What version of BES? 4.0.6+? OS 4.2+? IT Policy - Security Policy Group - Firewall Block Incoming Messages - Select BIS Msgs. Boom Roasted. - John Barsodi From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry Internet Service Disable their account for OWA. Also make sure you do not have POP3 enabled. From: SMREKAR, JACK [mailto:smre...@aasd.k12.wi.us] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Blackberry Internet Service I am wondering if anyone has/knows of a way to block the ability to have users use their own Blackberry on a corporate network. I am not trying to keep them from using them completely but just to stop them until they sign some form of acceptable use policy so that we know who has what. I have been looking on Blackberries web site for information and from what I can tell this might be dependent upon the cell phone carrier they have. The other option I was thinking about is if they use the Blackberry Internet Services can I turn off the ability to synch like we can with Windows Mobile, that is inside of the Exchange Administrator MMC Thanks Jack Smrekar Appleton Area School District 920-993-7062 Ext. 2123 A+ N+ Server + ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Online backup solution
We've been selling what is now known as i365, formerly eVault. They are owned by Seagate. The law firms around here love them. http://www.evault.com/ \\Steve// From: David.Ricci [mailto:david.ri...@hwinstitute.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Online backup solution I came to a company that has very poor backup practices. I figured online is the quickest way is to get into a backup solution. I have been looking at companies like Iron Mountain (very expensive), Sungard, vaultUSA for example. Anyone have good experience online backup solution, especially for exchange recovery. I need to back up about 1.2 TB of total data. Thank you, David ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
OT: Sonicwall SSL VPN question...
I've got an office with limited external IP addresses (just one). Supposedly, the Sonicwall appliances can present OWA and RPC/HTTPS - have any of you configured this? How well does it work? I've got RPC/HTTPS working without the Sonicwall, but they want more functionality, and I'm looking to send a 200 to them, as we're using a 2000 here in HQ. Kurt ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Sonicwall SSL VPN question...
Kurt Very similar to your 2000. The 200 has reduced feature set. The lack of Citrix (ICA) Support, NetExtender Support for Multiple IP Ranges and Routes and possibly RSA support are the only things we would normally notice as differences between a SSL200 and 2000. Key features at the bottom http://www.sonicwall.com/us/products/506.html Ron -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 6:59 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT: Sonicwall SSL VPN question... I've got an office with limited external IP addresses (just one). Supposedly, the Sonicwall appliances can present OWA and RPC/HTTPS - have any of you configured this? How well does it work? I've got RPC/HTTPS working without the Sonicwall, but they want more functionality, and I'm looking to send a 200 to them, as we're using a 2000 here in HQ. Kurt ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Sonicwall SSL VPN question...
Looking at that chart, it doesn't seem as if rpc/https proxying is available, nor the java fileshares applet. If true, those are major limitations, and we may have to rethink our strategy. On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Ron Baker r...@jfgsystems.com wrote: Kurt Very similar to your 2000. The 200 has reduced feature set. The lack of Citrix (ICA) Support, NetExtender Support for Multiple IP Ranges and Routes and possibly RSA support are the only things we would normally notice as differences between a SSL200 and 2000. Key features at the bottom http://www.sonicwall.com/us/products/506.html Ron -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 6:59 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT: Sonicwall SSL VPN question... I've got an office with limited external IP addresses (just one). Supposedly, the Sonicwall appliances can present OWA and RPC/HTTPS - have any of you configured this? How well does it work? I've got RPC/HTTPS working without the Sonicwall, but they want more functionality, and I'm looking to send a 200 to them, as we're using a 2000 here in HQ. Kurt ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~��� http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Nin��� ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Sonicwall SSL VPN question...
Kurt NetExtender might be a solution. Not as much control but full layer 3. The 200 provides secure remote access via two main methods. Proxies are provided for HTTP, HTTPS, FTP, SSH (V1 or V2), Telnet, RDP (via ActiveX control or Java applet), VNC and Windows File Sharing (Windows SMB/CIFS). The proxies provide remote access to these services via IE or Firefox running on any OS. For other TCP/IP-based applications, you use what Sonicwall calls NetExtender. I'll let Sonicwall explain: NetExtender is a SonicWALL SSL-VPN client for Windows that allows users to run TCP/IP-based applications securely on the compans network. NetExtender is downloaded transparently and uses a Point-to-Point Protocol (PPP) adapter instance to negotiate ActiveX controls. NetExtender first queries whether the ActiveX component is present, and if not, allows the user to download and install it. When installed, NetExtender allows users to tunnel to the remote network and virtually join the remote network in order to mount drives, upload and download files, and access resources in the same way as if they were on the local network. http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/content/view/29934/109/ -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:59 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Sonicwall SSL VPN question... Looking at that chart, it doesn't seem as if rpc/https proxying is available, nor the java fileshares applet. If true, those are major limitations, and we may have to rethink our strategy. On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Ron Baker r...@jfgsystems.com wrote: Kurt Very similar to your 2000. The 200 has reduced feature set. The lack of Citrix (ICA) Support, NetExtender Support for Multiple IP Ranges and Routes and possibly RSA support are the only things we would normally notice as differences between a SSL200 and 2000. Key features at the bottom http://www.sonicwall.com/us/products/506.html Ron -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 6:59 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT: Sonicwall SSL VPN question... I've got an office with limited external IP addresses (just one). Supposedly, the Sonicwall appliances can present OWA and RPC/HTTPS - have any of you configured this? How well does it work? I've got RPC/HTTPS working without the Sonicwall, but they want more functionality, and I'm looking to send a 200 to them, as we're using a 2000 here in HQ. Kurt ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ �� http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Nin� ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
