date:20090626

2009-06-26 Thread Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT)

Email is a commodity. Hosted Exchange is a commodity. Now, when I first set up 
a hosted Exchange company in 1999, it was pretty rare...but not today.

If you have something that differentiates your business (such as your drug 
pipeline in the case of a pharma company) - you sure don't outsource that.

But commodities? They aren't worth it.

Insofar as being held hostage or mail is being tapped/copied and sold off to 
some third party... well, that's what contracts are for. And realistically, 
that's no different than having someone go bad inside your IT organization.

Anyway, this spirit of discourse and disagreement is what makes the world go 
'round.

All IMHO. YMMV. Void in the state of Wisconsin. :-)


From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT) 
[john.matte...@afghan.swa.army.mil]
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 7:33 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

While I can see that as a rational for pushing IT outside the walls of the 
business, I still think it is a poor move. If you push your IT outside the 
walls you are setting yourself up to be held hostage by that same outsourcing 
company when it comes time to renew the agreement. If you outsource your mail 
to a hosted service, you have no clue as to whether or not your mail is being 
tapped/copied and sold off to some third party.

John H. Matteson, Jr.
Systems Administrator/ITT Systems
Forward Operating Base Orgun-E
Afghanistan
DSN - 318 431 8001
VoSIP - (308) 431 - 
Iridium SatPhone - 717.633.3823
Roshain Mobile - 079 - 736 - 3832


Molōn labe!

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 6:57 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

GSKs business is pharma (and I bet using that word will cause this email to be 
blocked by some people). They develop, pipeline, and market drugs. Not email. 
Not collaboration software.

IT, other than IT that helps them develop, pipeline, and market drugs isn't 
their core competency. Let someone who does it well do it for them.


From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT) 
[john.matte...@afghan.swa.army.mil]
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:22 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is Exchange Doomed?
Hi Kevin;

I wasn’t the one that was asking about that.

While I can understand a small time business wanting to concentrate on business 
and not on servers, i.e. Exchange servers, IIS for customer facing websites, 
etc, why would a business like GSK want to outsource their mail?  I would think 
that they would want to keep business information inside the business. I’ve 
made the same argument about businesses running their mail through 
companies/services such as POSTINI where it can get leaked out or choked off 
due to “equipment failures” and other things.

John H. Matteson, Jr.
Systems Administrator/ITT Systems
Forward Operating Base Orgun-E
Afghanistan
DSN - 318 431 8001
VoSIP - (308) 431 - 
Iridium SatPhone - 717.633.3823
Roshain Mobile - 079 - 736 - 3832


Molōn labe!

From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org]
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 1:13 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

SMORG | MORG | LORG = Small / Medium Org ~0-300 | Medium Org ~200-1000 | Large 
Org 1000
BPOS = Business Productively Online Services I.e. Hosted Services

And John, yes I am saying there will undercut the 10$ a box price if you talk 
to the right people. Connection is MAPI / HTTP over RPC via your Pipes. The 
price of those pipes add up on cost, and greatly affect the numbers. . The 
break even numbers are fun to work out and justify.

From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:57 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Is Exchange Doomed?

Small Org?  I don't know either!  :P
2009/6/24 Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT) 
john.matte...@afghan.swa.army.milmailto:john.matte...@afghan.swa.army.mil

SMORG’s



Okay, I know I’ve been out of touch way out here in the sandbox for the last 
three years, but could someone point me in the direction of the glossary of 
acronyms? Seems there have been a number of changes since I left civilization.



John H. Matteson, Jr.

Systems Administrator/ITT Systems

Forward Operating Base Orgun-E

Afghanistan

DSN - 318 431 8001

VoSIP - (308) 431 - 

Iridium SatPhone - 717.633.3823

Roshain Mobile - 079 - 736 - 3832





Molōn labe!



From: Michael B. Smith 
[mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.commailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:57 AM

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is Exchange Doomed?



I can't think that anyone is scared that Exchange will go away. I think that 
a number of vendors are concerned that Microsoft is pushing - really hard - 
SMORGs to the cloud.





From: Louis, Joe [jlo...@guardianalarm.commailto:jlo...@guardianalarm.com]
Sent: Wednesday,

RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

Michael:

 

You’re right, that’s why I like this list, we have differing 
opinions, but as far as I know, no one has croaked because of the debates here.

 

But as far as having a “contract” in place with a third party 
host, it makes no difference to the crook on the datacenter floor if you have a 
50 page contract written in 3 dialects of lawyereese saying that he can’t do 
what he’s doing. If he’s going to do it, then he’s going to do it and to heck 
with the ramifications. By the time the customer finds out and reports the 
problem, the damage is done.

 

John H. Matteson, Jr.

Systems Administrator/ITT Systems

Forward Operating Base Orgun-E

Afghanistan

DSN - 318 431 8001

VoSIP - (308) 431 - 

Iridium SatPhone - 717.633.3823

Roshain Mobile - 079 - 736 - 3832

 

 

Molōn labe!

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 4:44 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

 

Email is a commodity. Hosted Exchange is a commodity. Now, when I first set up 
a hosted Exchange company in 1999, it was pretty rare...but not today.

 

If you have something that differentiates your business (such as your drug 
pipeline in the case of a pharma company) - you sure don't outsource that.

 

But commodities? They aren't worth it.

 

Insofar as being held hostage or mail is being tapped/copied and sold off to 
some third party... well, that's what contracts are for. And realistically, 
that's no different than having someone go bad inside your IT organization.

 

Anyway, this spirit of discourse and disagreement is what makes the world go 
'round. 

 

All IMHO. YMMV. Void in the state of Wisconsin. :-)

 



From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT) 
[john.matte...@afghan.swa.army.mil]
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 7:33 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

While I can see that as a rational for pushing IT outside the walls of the 
business, I still think it is a poor move. If you push your IT outside the 
walls you are setting yourself up to be held hostage by that same outsourcing 
company when it comes time to renew the agreement. If you outsource your mail 
to a hosted service, you have no clue as to whether or not your mail is being 
tapped/copied and sold off to some third party.

 

John H. Matteson, Jr.

Systems Administrator/ITT Systems

Forward Operating Base Orgun-E

Afghanistan

DSN - 318 431 8001

VoSIP - (308) 431 - 

Iridium SatPhone - 717.633.3823

Roshain Mobile - 079 - 736 - 3832

 

 

Molōn labe!

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 6:57 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

 

GSKs business is pharma (and I bet using that word will cause this email to be 
blocked by some people). They develop, pipeline, and market drugs. Not email. 
Not collaboration software.

 

IT, other than IT that helps them develop, pipeline, and market drugs isn't 
their core competency. Let someone who does it well do it for them.

 



From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT) 
[john.matte...@afghan.swa.army.mil]
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:22 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

Hi Kevin; 

 

I wasn’t the one that was asking about that. 

 

While I can understand a small time business wanting to concentrate on business 
and not on servers, i.e. Exchange servers, IIS for customer facing websites, 
etc, why would a business like GSK want to outsource their mail?  I would think 
that they would want to keep business information inside the business. I’ve 
made the same argument about businesses running their mail through 
companies/services such as POSTINI where it can get leaked out or choked off 
due to “equipment failures” and other things.

 

John H. Matteson, Jr.

Systems Administrator/ITT Systems

Forward Operating Base Orgun-E

Afghanistan

DSN - 318 431 8001

VoSIP - (308) 431 - 

Iridium SatPhone - 717.633.3823

Roshain Mobile - 079 - 736 - 3832

 

 

Molōn labe!

 

From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org] 
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 1:13 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

 

SMORG | MORG | LORG = Small / Medium Org ~0-300 | Medium Org ~200-1000 | Large 
Org 1000

BPOS = Business Productively Online Services I.e. Hosted Services

 

And John, yes I am saying there will undercut the 10$ a box price if you talk 
to the right people. Connection is MAPI / HTTP over RPC via your Pipes. The 
price of those pipes add up on cost, and greatly affect the numbers. . The 
break even numbers are fun to work out and justify.

 

From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:57 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Is Exchange Doomed?

 

Small Org?  I don't know either!  :P

2009/6/24 Matteson, John H Jr USA

Re: Is Exchange Doomed?

2009-06-26 Thread Jonathan Link

What's wrong with Wisconsin?
I don't live there, not from there, just want to know.

2009/6/26 Michael B. Smith mich...@owa.smithcons.com

  Email is a commodity. Hosted Exchange is a commodity. Now, when I first
 set up a hosted Exchange company in 1999, it was pretty rare...but not
 today.

 If you have something that differentiates your business (such as your drug
 pipeline in the case of a pharma company) - you sure don't outsource that.

 But commodities? They aren't worth it.

 Insofar as being held hostage or mail is being tapped/copied and sold off
 to some third party... well, that's what contracts are for. And
 realistically, that's no different than having someone go bad inside your
 IT organization.

 Anyway, this spirit of discourse and disagreement is what makes the world
 go 'round.

 All IMHO. YMMV. Void in the state of Wisconsin. :-)

  --
  *From:* Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT) [
 john.matte...@afghan.swa.army.mil]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2009 7:33 AM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

   While I can see that as a rational for pushing IT outside the walls of
 the business, I still think it is a poor move. If you push your IT outside
 the walls you are setting yourself up to be held hostage by that same
 outsourcing company when it comes time to renew the agreement. If you
 outsource your mail to a hosted service, you have no clue as to whether or
 not your mail is being tapped/copied and sold off to some third party.



 John H. Matteson, Jr.

 Systems Administrator/ITT Systems

 Forward Operating Base Orgun-E

 Afghanistan

 DSN - 318 431 8001

 VoSIP - (308) 431 - 

 Iridium SatPhone - 717.633.3823

 Roshain Mobile - 079 - 736 - 3832





 *Molōn labe!*



 *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2009 6:57 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Is Exchange Doomed?



 GSKs business is pharma (and I bet using that word will cause this email to
 be blocked by some people). They develop, pipeline, and market drugs. Not
 email. Not collaboration software.



 IT, other than IT that helps them develop, pipeline, and market drugs isn't
 their core competency. Let someone who does it well do it for them.


   --

 *From:* Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT) [
 john.matte...@afghan.swa.army.mil]
 *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:22 AM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

  Hi Kevin;



 I wasn't the one that was asking about that.



 While I can understand a small time business wanting to concentrate on
 business and not on servers, i.e. Exchange servers, IIS for customer facing
 websites, etc, why would a business like GSK want to outsource their mail?
 I would think that they would want to keep business information inside the
 business. I've made the same argument about businesses running their mail
 through companies/services such as POSTINI where it can get leaked out or
 choked off due to equipment failures and other things.



 John H. Matteson, Jr.

 Systems Administrator/ITT Systems

 Forward Operating Base Orgun-E

 Afghanistan

 DSN - 318 431 8001

 VoSIP - (308) 431 - 

 Iridium SatPhone - 717.633.3823

 Roshain Mobile - 079 - 736 - 3832





 *Molōn labe!*



 *From:* KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org]
 *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2009 1:13 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Is Exchange Doomed?



 SMORG | MORG | LORG = Small / Medium Org ~0-300 | Medium Org ~200-1000 |
 Large Org 1000

 BPOS = Business Productively Online Services I.e. Hosted Services



 And John, yes I am saying there will undercut the 10$ a box price if you
 talk to the right people. Connection is MAPI / HTTP over RPC via your Pipes.
 The price of those pipes add up on cost, and greatly affect the numbers. .
 The break even numbers are fun to work out and justify.



 *From:* Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:57 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Is Exchange Doomed?



 Small Org?  I don't know either!  :P

 2009/6/24 Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT) 
 john.matte...@afghan.swa.army.mil

 SMORG's



 Okay, I know I've been out of touch way out here in the sandbox for the
 last three years, but could someone point me in the direction of the
 glossary of acronyms? Seems there have been a number of changes since I left
 civilization.



 John H. Matteson, Jr.

 Systems Administrator/ITT Systems

 Forward Operating Base Orgun-E

 Afghanistan

 DSN - 318 431 8001

 VoSIP - (308) 431 - 

 Iridium SatPhone - 717.633.3823

 Roshain Mobile - 079 - 736 - 3832





 *Molōn labe!*



 *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:57 AM


 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Is Exchange Doomed?



 I can't think that anyone is scared that Exchange will go

RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

2009-06-26 Thread Neil Hobson

Well, I’m a Limey so not authoritative on this one, but I always thought it
was poking a bit of fun at the gambling laws of Wisconsin when they banned
things like lotteries, etc.

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 26 June 2009 13:50
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Is Exchange Doomed?

What's wrong with Wisconsin?

I don't live there, not from there, just want to know.

2009/6/26 Michael B. Smith mich...@owa.smithcons.com

Email is a commodity. Hosted Exchange is a commodity. Now, when I first set
up a hosted Exchange company in 1999, it was pretty rare...but not today.

If you have something that differentiates your business (such as your drug
pipeline in the case of a pharma company) - you sure don't outsource that.

But commodities? They aren't worth it.

Insofar as being held hostage or mail is being tapped/copied and sold off
to some third party... well, that's what contracts are for. And
realistically, that's no different than having someone go bad inside your
IT organization.

Anyway, this spirit of discourse and disagreement is what makes the world
go 'round. 

All IMHO. YMMV. Void in the state of Wisconsin. :-)

  _  

From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT)
[john.matte...@afghan.swa.army.mil]

Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 7:33 AM 

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

While I can see that as a rational for pushing IT outside the walls of the
business, I still think it is a poor move. If you push your IT outside the
walls you are setting yourself up to be held hostage by that same
outsourcing company when it comes time to renew the agreement. If you
outsource your mail to a hosted service, you have no clue as to whether or
not your mail is being tapped/copied and sold off to some third party.

John H. Matteson, Jr.

Systems Administrator/ITT Systems

Forward Operating Base Orgun-E

Afghanistan

DSN - 318 431 8001

VoSIP - (308) 431 - 

Iridium SatPhone - 717.633.3823

Roshain Mobile - 079 - 736 - 3832

Molōn labe!

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com] 

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 6:57 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

GSKs business is pharma (and I bet using that word will cause this email to
be blocked by some people). They develop, pipeline, and market drugs. Not
email. Not collaboration software.

IT, other than IT that helps them develop, pipeline, and market drugs isn't
their core competency. Let someone who does it well do it for them.

  _  

From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT)
[john.matte...@afghan.swa.army.mil]
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:22 AM 

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

Hi Kevin; 

I wasn’t the one that was asking about that. 

While I can understand a small time business wanting to concentrate on
business and not on servers, i.e. Exchange servers, IIS for customer facing
websites, etc, why would a business like GSK want to outsource their mail?
I would think that they would want to keep business information inside the
business. I’ve made the same argument about businesses running their mail
through companies/services such as POSTINI where it can get leaked out or
choked off due to “equipment failures” and other things.

John H. Matteson, Jr.

Systems Administrator/ITT Systems

Forward Operating Base Orgun-E

Afghanistan

DSN - 318 431 8001

VoSIP - (308) 431 - 

Iridium SatPhone - 717.633.3823

Roshain Mobile - 079 - 736 - 3832

Molōn labe!

From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org] 
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 1:13 PM 

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

SMORG | MORG | LORG = Small / Medium Org ~0-300 | Medium Org ~200-1000 |
Large Org 1000

BPOS = Business Productively Online Services I.e. Hosted Services

And John, yes I am saying there will undercut the 10$ a box price if you
talk to the right people. Connection is MAPI / HTTP over RPC via your Pipes.
The price of those pipes add up on cost, and greatly affect the numbers. .
The break even numbers are fun to work out and justify.

From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:57 PM 

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Is Exchange Doomed?

Small Org?  I don't know either!  :P

2009/6/24 Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT)
john.matte...@afghan.swa.army.mil

SMORG’s

Okay, I know I’ve been out of touch way out here in the sandbox for the last
three years, but could someone point me in the direction of the glossary of
acronyms? Seems there have been a number of changes since I left
civilization.

John H. Matteson, Jr.

Systems Administrator/ITT Systems

Forward Operating Base Orgun-E

Afghanistan

DSN - 318 431 8001

VoSIP - (308) 431 - 

Iridium SatPhone - 717.633.3823

Roshain Mobile - 079 - 736 - 3832

Molōn labe!

From: Michael B. Smith

RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

Did I mention that I'm old?  :-)

Wisconsin used to have draconian anti-gambling laws - to such a degree that if 
a resident of Wisconsin bought a lottery ticket in another state - they were 
not allowed to cash it in. Eventually, lottery tickets often had void in the 
state of Wisconsin printed on them. Google that phrase, you'll find lots of 
hits.

Really, it's a joke. In the early days of Usenet, IMHO, YMMV, void in 
Wisconsin was a common tagline. Now, not so much.


From: Jonathan Link [jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:49 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Is Exchange Doomed?

What's wrong with Wisconsin?
I don't live there, not from there, just want to know.

2009/6/26 Michael B. Smith 
mich...@owa.smithcons.commailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com
Email is a commodity. Hosted Exchange is a commodity. Now, when I first set up 
a hosted Exchange company in 1999, it was pretty rare...but not today.

If you have something that differentiates your business (such as your drug 
pipeline in the case of a pharma company) - you sure don't outsource that.

But commodities? They aren't worth it.

Insofar as being held hostage or mail is being tapped/copied and sold off to 
some third party... well, that's what contracts are for. And realistically, 
that's no different than having someone go bad inside your IT organization.

Anyway, this spirit of discourse and disagreement is what makes the world go 
'round.

All IMHO. YMMV. Void in the state of Wisconsin. :-)


From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT) 
[john.matte...@afghan.swa.army.milmailto:john.matte...@afghan.swa.army.mil]
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 7:33 AM

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is Exchange Doomed?


While I can see that as a rational for pushing IT outside the walls of the 
business, I still think it is a poor move. If you push your IT outside the 
walls you are setting yourself up to be held hostage by that same outsourcing 
company when it comes time to renew the agreement. If you outsource your mail 
to a hosted service, you have no clue as to whether or not your mail is being 
tapped/copied and sold off to some third party.



John H. Matteson, Jr.

Systems Administrator/ITT Systems

Forward Operating Base Orgun-E

Afghanistan

DSN - 318 431 8001

VoSIP - (308) 431 - 

Iridium SatPhone - 717.633.3823

Roshain Mobile - 079 - 736 - 3832





Molōn labe!



From: Michael B. Smith 
[mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.commailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com]

Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 6:57 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is Exchange Doomed?



GSKs business is pharma (and I bet using that word will cause this email to be 
blocked by some people). They develop, pipeline, and market drugs. Not email. 
Not collaboration software.



IT, other than IT that helps them develop, pipeline, and market drugs isn't 
their core competency. Let someone who does it well do it for them.





From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT) 
[john.matte...@afghan.swa.army.milmailto:john.matte...@afghan.swa.army.mil]
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:22 AM

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

Hi Kevin;



I wasn’t the one that was asking about that.



While I can understand a small time business wanting to concentrate on business 
and not on servers, i.e. Exchange servers, IIS for customer facing websites, 
etc, why would a business like GSK want to outsource their mail?  I would think 
that they would want to keep business information inside the business. I’ve 
made the same argument about businesses running their mail through 
companies/services such as POSTINI where it can get leaked out or choked off 
due to “equipment failures” and other things.



John H. Matteson, Jr.

Systems Administrator/ITT Systems

Forward Operating Base Orgun-E

Afghanistan

DSN - 318 431 8001

VoSIP - (308) 431 - 

Iridium SatPhone - 717.633.3823

Roshain Mobile - 079 - 736 - 3832





Molōn labe!



From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.orgmailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org]
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 1:13 PM

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is Exchange Doomed?



SMORG | MORG | LORG = Small / Medium Org ~0-300 | Medium Org ~200-1000 | Large 
Org 1000

BPOS = Business Productively Online Services I.e. Hosted Services



And John, yes I am saying there will undercut the 10$ a box price if you talk 
to the right people. Connection is MAPI / HTTP over RPC via your Pipes. The 
price of those pipes add up on cost, and greatly affect the numbers. . The 
break even numbers are fun to work out and justify.



From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.commailto:don@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:57 PM

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Is Exchange Doomed?



Small Org?  I don't know either!  :P

2009/6/24 Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT)

RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

funny, i've met you before, and you didn't look green to me.

From: Neil Hobson [nhob...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 9:17 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

Well, I’m a Limey so not authoritative on this one, but I always thought it was 
poking a bit of fun at the gambling laws of Wisconsin when they banned things 
like lotteries, etc.

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: 26 June 2009 13:50
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Is Exchange Doomed?

What's wrong with Wisconsin?
I don't live there, not from there, just want to know.
2009/6/26 Michael B. Smith 
mich...@owa.smithcons.commailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com
Email is a commodity. Hosted Exchange is a commodity. Now, when I first set up 
a hosted Exchange company in 1999, it was pretty rare...but not today.

If you have something that differentiates your business (such as your drug 
pipeline in the case of a pharma company) - you sure don't outsource that.

But commodities? They aren't worth it.

Insofar as being held hostage or mail is being tapped/copied and sold off to 
some third party... well, that's what contracts are for. And realistically, 
that's no different than having someone go bad inside your IT organization.

Anyway, this spirit of discourse and disagreement is what makes the world go 
'round.

All IMHO. YMMV. Void in the state of Wisconsin. :-)

From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT) 
[john.matte...@afghan.swa.army.milmailto:john.matte...@afghan.swa.army.mil]
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 7:33 AM

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

While I can see that as a rational for pushing IT outside the walls of the 
business, I still think it is a poor move. If you push your IT outside the 
walls you are setting yourself up to be held hostage by that same outsourcing 
company when it comes time to renew the agreement. If you outsource your mail 
to a hosted service, you have no clue as to whether or not your mail is being 
tapped/copied and sold off to some third party.

John H. Matteson, Jr.

Systems Administrator/ITT Systems

Forward Operating Base Orgun-E

Afghanistan

DSN - 318 431 8001

VoSIP - (308) 431 - 

Iridium SatPhone - 717.633.3823

Roshain Mobile - 079 - 736 - 3832

Molōn labe!

From: Michael B. Smith 
[mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.commailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 6:57 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

GSKs business is pharma (and I bet using that word will cause this email to be 
blocked by some people). They develop, pipeline, and market drugs. Not email. 
Not collaboration software.

IT, other than IT that helps them develop, pipeline, and market drugs isn't 
their core competency. Let someone who does it well do it for them.

From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT) 
[john.matte...@afghan.swa.army.milmailto:john.matte...@afghan.swa.army.mil]
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:22 AM

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

Hi Kevin;

I wasn’t the one that was asking about that.

While I can understand a small time business wanting to concentrate on business 
and not on servers, i.e. Exchange servers, IIS for customer facing websites, 
etc, why would a business like GSK want to outsource their mail?  I would think 
that they would want to keep business information inside the business. I’ve 
made the same argument about businesses running their mail through 
companies/services such as POSTINI where it can get leaked out or choked off 
due to “equipment failures” and other things.

John H. Matteson, Jr.

Systems Administrator/ITT Systems

Forward Operating Base Orgun-E

Afghanistan

DSN - 318 431 8001

VoSIP - (308) 431 - 

Iridium SatPhone - 717.633.3823

Roshain Mobile - 079 - 736 - 3832

Molōn labe!

From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.orgmailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org]
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 1:13 PM

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is Exchange Doomed?

SMORG | MORG | LORG = Small / Medium Org ~0-300 | Medium Org ~200-1000 | Large 
Org 1000

BPOS = Business Productively Online Services I.e. Hosted Services

And John, yes I am saying there will undercut the 10$ a box price if you talk 
to the right people. Connection is MAPI / HTTP over RPC via your Pipes. The 
price of those pipes add up on cost, and greatly affect the numbers. . The 
break even numbers are fun to work out and justify.

From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.commailto:don@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:57 PM

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Is Exchange Doomed?

Small Org?  I don't know either!  :P

2009/6/24 Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT) 
john.matte...@afghan.swa.army.milmailto:john.matte...@afghan.swa.army.mil

SMORG’s

Okay, I know I’ve been out of touch

RE: RIM SUPPORT

Anyone tried www.astrasync.com ?? I'm rolling it out to five users next week as 
a test.

From: Ben Scott [mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 7:03 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: RIM SUPPORT

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Jeff Brown2jbr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Again, all they REALLY support for me is ONE BES server.

  Yah, same here.  And really, I'm agreeing with you -- if RIM keeps
pissing off their customers, they'll eventually find they don't have
customers to piss off.

-- Ben

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Re: Is Exchange Doomed?

2009-06-26 Thread Ben Scott

Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT)
john.matte...@afghan.swa.army.mil:
 But as far as having a “contract” in place with a third party host, it makes
 no difference to the crook on the datacenter floor if you have a 50 page
 contract ...

  I think MBS's point is that you can have crooks inside your
organization just as easily as you can have crooks in a supplier's
organization.  You seem to take it as a given that you can always
trust employee, and we know that's not true.  I'm sure you familiar
with all the audit requirements DoD has for computers that already can
only be touched by people who have security clearance, formal access
authorization, and need-to-know.  :)  They're there because the
insider threat is real, and the hardest to defend against.

  It's certainly possible to arrange for assurances for this sort of
thing.  You could do your own audits of the hosting company, or there
could be some kind of accreditation system.  Same as the National
Industrial Security Program allows for commercial organizations to
process DoD classified information, even though there normally aren't
any DoD personnel on-site.

  All that said, most of the hosted offerings I've seen have no
provisions for that sort of thing, and most businesses don't seem to
care.  They just blindly assume everything's going to be fine.

-- Ben

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Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

2009-06-26 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr

I believe it.  I've def. had cars that had lower MPG at 75+.  I've
never seen savings at 55.

--
ME2



On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Ben Scottmailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Sean Martinseanmarti...@gmail.com wrote:
  Plus it gets like 28 MPG highway if you drive conservatively.

 No offense, but I'm trying to picture how would drive a Subura Forrester
 other than conservatively. :-)

  Heh.  :)

  It's not a race car by any stretch of the imagination, but it can
 get out of its own way.  It will comfortably do 80 on the highway,
 once you get up to speed.  Amazingly enough, doing 80 MPH in 5th gear
 yields lower MPG than doing 65 MPH in 5th gear.  :-)

 -- Ben

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RE: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

Indeed.

Typically peak mileage corresponds to the peak of the torque curve in the 
highest gear you can run and still maintain RPM.

-sc

 -Original Message-
 From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 10:09 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)
 
 I believe it.  I've def. had cars that had lower MPG at 75+.  I've
 never seen savings at 55.
 
 --
 ME2
 
 
 
 On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Ben Scottmailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Sean Martinseanmarti...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Plus it gets like 28 MPG highway if you drive conservatively.
 
  No offense, but I'm trying to picture how would drive a Subura
 Forrester
  other than conservatively. :-)
 
   Heh.  :)
 
   It's not a race car by any stretch of the imagination, but it can
  get out of its own way.  It will comfortably do 80 on the highway,
  once you get up to speed.  Amazingly enough, doing 80 MPH in 5th gear
  yields lower MPG than doing 65 MPH in 5th gear.  :-)
 
  -- Ben
 
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Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

Yup, exactly!!  I also have a cell phone that is orangebada Boom!!

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.com wrote:

  That makes sense, you bought a car that matches your hair…BOOM!



 Shook



 *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2009 10:17 AM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)



 Yuck, my husband has tried to get me to buy a Forrester for years.  I think
 they are ugly.  Personally I love my Nissan Xterra in Atomic Orange.  I can
 always find my vehicle in a crowded parking lot.   LOL

 On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr 
 michealespin...@gmail.com wrote:

 I believe it.  I've def. had cars that had lower MPG at 75+.  I've
 never seen savings at 55.

 --
 ME2




 On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Ben Scottmailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Sean Martinseanmarti...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Plus it gets like 28 MPG highway if you drive conservatively.
 
  No offense, but I'm trying to picture how would drive a Subura Forrester
  other than conservatively. :-)
 
   Heh.  :)
 
   It's not a race car by any stretch of the imagination, but it can
  get out of its own way.  It will comfortably do 80 on the highway,
  once you get up to speed.  Amazingly enough, doing 80 MPH in 5th gear
  yields lower MPG than doing 65 MPH in 5th gear.  :-)
 
  -- Ben
 
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 Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
 Arthur C. Clarke








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Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Arthur C. Clarke

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RE: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

2009-06-26 Thread Eldridge, Dave

Sherry you're a Denver Bronco's fan. I never would have guessed. J

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:26 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

Yup, exactly!!  I also have a cell phone that is orangebada Boom!!

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.com
wrote:

That makes sense, you bought a car that matches your hair...BOOM!

Shook

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 10:17 AM

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

Yuck, my husband has tried to get me to buy a Forrester for years.  I
think they are ugly.  Personally I love my Nissan Xterra in Atomic
Orange.  I can always find my vehicle in a crowded parking lot.   LOL

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr
michealespin...@gmail.com wrote:

I believe it.  I've def. had cars that had lower MPG at 75+.  I've
never seen savings at 55.

--
ME2

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Ben Scottmailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Sean Martinseanmarti...@gmail.com
wrote:
  Plus it gets like 28 MPG highway if you drive conservatively.

 No offense, but I'm trying to picture how would drive a Subura
Forrester
 other than conservatively. :-)

  Heh.  :)

  It's not a race car by any stretch of the imagination, but it can
 get out of its own way.  It will comfortably do 80 on the highway,
 once you get up to speed.  Amazingly enough, doing 80 MPH in 5th gear
 yields lower MPG than doing 65 MPH in 5th gear.  :-)

 -- Ben

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-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. 
Arthur C. Clarke

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Sherry Abercrombie

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. 
Arthur C. Clarke

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Attachments Issue

2009-06-26 Thread Chris Pohlschneider

Hello,

 

We are having an issue when we try to send an attachment to our parent
company. We have Exchange 2003 Enterprise SP2 running on Windows Server
2003. Is there a way to see if the message containing the attachment
actually leaves our server with the attachment still in tact with the
message? Thanks in advance for any help!

 

Chris Pohlschneider

Network Administrator

chris.pohlschnei...@hollowayusa.com

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Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

Dave Dave Dave, you know for a Texan, them's fightin' words.

Hook 'em Horns!!

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Eldridge, Dave d...@parkviewmc.com wrote:

  Sherry you’re a Denver Bronco’s fan. I never would have guessed. J



 *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2009 8:26 AM

 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)



 Yup, exactly!!  I also have a cell phone that is orangebada Boom!!

 On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.com wrote:

 That makes sense, you bought a car that matches your hair…BOOM!



 Shook



 *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2009 10:17 AM


 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)



 Yuck, my husband has tried to get me to buy a Forrester for years.  I think
 they are ugly.  Personally I love my Nissan Xterra in Atomic Orange.  I can
 always find my vehicle in a crowded parking lot.   LOL

 On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr 
 michealespin...@gmail.com wrote:

 I believe it.  I've def. had cars that had lower MPG at 75+.  I've
 never seen savings at 55.

 --
 ME2




 On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Ben Scottmailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Sean Martinseanmarti...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Plus it gets like 28 MPG highway if you drive conservatively.
 
  No offense, but I'm trying to picture how would drive a Subura Forrester
  other than conservatively. :-)
 
   Heh.  :)
 
   It's not a race car by any stretch of the imagination, but it can
  get out of its own way.  It will comfortably do 80 on the highway,
  once you get up to speed.  Amazingly enough, doing 80 MPH in 5th gear
  yields lower MPG than doing 65 MPH in 5th gear.  :-)
 
  -- Ben
 
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RE: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

2009-06-26 Thread Eldridge, Dave

I knew that I'm rolling on the floor. J

There's such a group hug between Texas and Colorado. I run into you guys
on the slopes all the time. J

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:30 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

Dave Dave Dave, you know for a Texan, them's fightin' words.  

Hook 'em Horns!!  

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Eldridge, Dave d...@parkviewmc.com
wrote:

Sherry you're a Denver Bronco's fan. I never would have guessed. J

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:26 AM

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

Yup, exactly!!  I also have a cell phone that is orangebada Boom!!

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.com
wrote:

That makes sense, you bought a car that matches your hair...BOOM!

Shook

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 10:17 AM

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

Yuck, my husband has tried to get me to buy a Forrester for years.  I
think they are ugly.  Personally I love my Nissan Xterra in Atomic
Orange.  I can always find my vehicle in a crowded parking lot.   LOL

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr
michealespin...@gmail.com wrote:

I believe it.  I've def. had cars that had lower MPG at 75+.  I've
never seen savings at 55.

--
ME2

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Ben Scottmailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Sean Martinseanmarti...@gmail.com
wrote:
  Plus it gets like 28 MPG highway if you drive conservatively.

 No offense, but I'm trying to picture how would drive a Subura
Forrester
 other than conservatively. :-)

  Heh.  :)

  It's not a race car by any stretch of the imagination, but it can
 get out of its own way.  It will comfortably do 80 on the highway,
 once you get up to speed.  Amazingly enough, doing 80 MPH in 5th gear
 yields lower MPG than doing 65 MPH in 5th gear.  :-)

 -- Ben

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Arthur C. Clarke

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Re: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

2009-06-26 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr

Not at all.  The fact that there are so many is what makes a
generalization like this ring all the more true.  This doesnt have to
be a flame war.  A discussion of passions doesnt have to be nasty.

Observations I have learned from ready industry magazines and watching
industry spotlight shows:

Most US cars have wider body lines (body lines are the gap between
outer shell parts of the body, and break up the aesthetic appearance
of the car).
Most US cars have smaller disc brakes.
Most US cars use non-modern suspension (particularly in the rear).
Most US cars are sloppy, and have extensive play in the steering
(even brand new cars have been found to have this)

What I am describing applies to most all of the other automotive
markets outside of the US.  Toyota is a fine example, but what I am
illustrating is what each younger generation knows from the get-go:
The the US automotive industry is mostly crap when you compare its
cars to foreign counterparts.

We as a society are raised to care nothing about buying US-made
products anymore.  We all know we are no longer the general quality
standard for all things.  We buy our goods on the cheap wherever we
can find it in the world economy. Take a look in a Walmart. Tell me
how much sold there is made in the USA anymore.  We don't buy hardly
anything made or grown in the US anymore, so why should we have such a
passion for American automotive? We typically wont tolerate inferior
products from other industries.

As far as automobiles go; its a piece of heavy equipment. I wouldn't
risk my life or the lives of loved ones and others to buy inferior
products. To me thats not about saving gas money; thats about keeping
my family safe (see: modern steering, brakes and suspension for
accident avoidance).

Manufactures like Chevrolet and Ford have repeatedly admitted that
they do not use modern-standard disc brakes and suspension equipment
because it would add 5K+ to the vehicle cost as well as require higher
maintenance costs for the owner.

I don't want to see the US automotive industry fail.  But they have.
They make inferior products.  Its past tense.  They have been living
in their own little world about this for decades.  Yes, this is a
generalization.  Because its generally true.

There's no flaming here.  I'm simply calling it as I've seen it.  If
someone can set me straight and tell me otherwise, I'd be happy to
hear it.  Its been a disappointment in life to see the cars I grew up
loving become more and more irrelevant over time - other than for
nostalgic reasons...

--
ME2



On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Eric
Wittersheimewittersh...@aasmnet.org wrote:
 I'm sorry ME2 but this is pretty lame.  There are too many different US and 
 foreign auto companies to make this generalization.  I'm sure you can cite 
 examples of what you are trying to say but there are many examples of cars 
 that fit the description larger body lines, more sway, less control that are 
 made by non US companies.  That sounds to me like you are describing most of 
 Toyota's lineup.  Look, I'm not trying to start some kind of flame war or 
 anything like that but I really have a problem with your last statement.  
 With the economy the way it is and so many US citizens without jobs why 
 wouldn't people want to try and help by buying local.  I don't accept the 
 argument about quality anymore.  I guess it is all good while WE have a job 
 right?

 -Original Message-
 From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 3:33 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

 I have to disagree.  I believe its that they dont design and assemble
 cars well enough (as a whole) is what got them into trouble.  As an
 example, many cars manufactured in the past 5 years still only being
 good in a straight line with inadequate braking and cornering
 abilities in comparison to the rest of the world market. Never mind
 being less fuel efficient.  Larger body lines, more sway, less
 control, ugg.

 I grew up on street racing American muscle cars as a non-seat-belted
 passenger in my father's hot rods, racing light-to-light old-school
 style.  I love the Camaro's and Mustang's he owned, as well as the
 ones I did when I became of age.

 But I have no interest in buying American anymore. Its mostly inferior
 tech and parts.  And I dont buy inferior.

 --
 ME2



 On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Kurt Buffkurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 2009/6/25 Michael B. Smith mich...@owa.smithcons.com

 GSKs business is pharma (and I bet using that word will cause this email to 
 be blocked by some people). They develop, pipeline, and market drugs. Not 
 email. Not collaboration software.

 IT, other than IT that helps them develop, pipeline, and market drugs isn't 
 their core competency. Let someone who does it well do it for them.

 That philosophy is what got the US auto industry in heaps of trouble.
 We design and assemble

Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

Yup, if you're at Wolf Creek the first week of Feb. 2010 you will run into
this Texan.

Honestly, I loved seeing Elway finally win a Superbowl in 98, especially
against the Packers.

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Eldridge, Dave d...@parkviewmc.com wrote:

  I knew that I’m rolling on the floor. J

 There’s such a group hug between Texas and Colorado. I run into you guys on
 the slopes all the time. J



 *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2009 8:30 AM

 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)



 Dave Dave Dave, you know for a Texan, them's fightin' words.

 Hook 'em Horns!!

 On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Eldridge, Dave d...@parkviewmc.com
 wrote:

 Sherry you’re a Denver Bronco’s fan. I never would have guessed. J



 *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2009 8:26 AM


 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)



 Yup, exactly!!  I also have a cell phone that is orangebada Boom!!

 On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.com wrote:

 That makes sense, you bought a car that matches your hair…BOOM!



 Shook



 *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2009 10:17 AM


 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)



 Yuck, my husband has tried to get me to buy a Forrester for years.  I think
 they are ugly.  Personally I love my Nissan Xterra in Atomic Orange.  I can
 always find my vehicle in a crowded parking lot.   LOL

 On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr 
 michealespin...@gmail.com wrote:

 I believe it.  I've def. had cars that had lower MPG at 75+.  I've
 never seen savings at 55.

 --
 ME2




 On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Ben Scottmailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Sean Martinseanmarti...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Plus it gets like 28 MPG highway if you drive conservatively.
 
  No offense, but I'm trying to picture how would drive a Subura Forrester
  other than conservatively. :-)
 
   Heh.  :)
 
   It's not a race car by any stretch of the imagination, but it can
  get out of its own way.  It will comfortably do 80 on the highway,
  once you get up to speed.  Amazingly enough, doing 80 MPH in 5th gear
  yields lower MPG than doing 65 MPH in 5th gear.  :-)
 
  -- Ben
 
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Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

Yuck, my husband has tried to get me to buy a Forrester for years.  I think
they are ugly.  Personally I love my Nissan Xterra in Atomic Orange.  I can
always find my vehicle in a crowded parking lot.   LOL

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr 
michealespin...@gmail.com wrote:

 I believe it.  I've def. had cars that had lower MPG at 75+.  I've
 never seen savings at 55.

 --
 ME2



 On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Ben Scottmailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Sean Martinseanmarti...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Plus it gets like 28 MPG highway if you drive conservatively.
 
  No offense, but I'm trying to picture how would drive a Subura Forrester
  other than conservatively. :-)
 
   Heh.  :)
 
   It's not a race car by any stretch of the imagination, but it can
  get out of its own way.  It will comfortably do 80 on the highway,
  once you get up to speed.  Amazingly enough, doing 80 MPH in 5th gear
  yields lower MPG than doing 65 MPH in 5th gear.  :-)
 
  -- Ben
 
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  ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
 

 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~




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Sherry Abercrombie

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Arthur C. Clarke

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RE: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

2009-06-26 Thread Andy Shook

That makes sense, you bought a car that matches your hair...BOOM!

Shook

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 10:17 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

Yuck, my husband has tried to get me to buy a Forrester for years.  I think 
they are ugly.  Personally I love my Nissan Xterra in Atomic Orange.  I can 
always find my vehicle in a crowded parking lot.   LOL
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr 
michealespin...@gmail.commailto:michealespin...@gmail.com wrote:
I believe it.  I've def. had cars that had lower MPG at 75+.  I've
never seen savings at 55.

--
ME2

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Ben 
Scottmailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Sean 
 Martinseanmarti...@gmail.commailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote:
  Plus it gets like 28 MPG highway if you drive conservatively.

 No offense, but I'm trying to picture how would drive a Subura Forrester
 other than conservatively. :-)

  Heh.  :)

  It's not a race car by any stretch of the imagination, but it can
 get out of its own way.  It will comfortably do 80 on the highway,
 once you get up to speed.  Amazingly enough, doing 80 MPH in 5th gear
 yields lower MPG than doing 65 MPH in 5th gear.  :-)

 -- Ben

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 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

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Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Arthur C. Clarke

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RE: Attachments Issue

2009-06-26 Thread Maglinger, Paul

What kind of issue?  Are you getting a bounce?  Are the attachments
disappearing or the entire message? All attachments or just some?
 
You could CC the message to your gmail, juno, hotmail, etc. account and
see if it appears there...



From: Chris Pohlschneider [mailto:chris.pohlschnei...@hollowayusa.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 9:28 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Attachments Issue



Hello,

 

We are having an issue when we try to send an attachment to our parent
company. We have Exchange 2003 Enterprise SP2 running on Windows Server
2003. Is there a way to see if the message containing the attachment
actually leaves our server with the attachment still in tact with the
message? Thanks in advance for any help!

 

Chris Pohlschneider

Network Administrator

chris.pohlschnei...@hollowayusa.com

937-494-2559

 

 

 


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Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

2009-06-26 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr

Nice!  I love that color on the Xterra!

--
ME2



On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Sherry Abercrombiesaber...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yuck, my husband has tried to get me to buy a Forrester for years.  I think
 they are ugly.  Personally I love my Nissan Xterra in Atomic Orange.  I can
 always find my vehicle in a crowded parking lot.   LOL

 On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr
 michealespin...@gmail.com wrote:

 I believe it.  I've def. had cars that had lower MPG at 75+.  I've
 never seen savings at 55.

 --
 ME2



 On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Ben Scottmailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Sean Martinseanmarti...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   Plus it gets like 28 MPG highway if you drive conservatively.
 
  No offense, but I'm trying to picture how would drive a Subura
  Forrester
  other than conservatively. :-)
 
   Heh.  :)
 
   It's not a race car by any stretch of the imagination, but it can
  get out of its own way.  It will comfortably do 80 on the highway,
  once you get up to speed.  Amazingly enough, doing 80 MPH in 5th gear
  yields lower MPG than doing 65 MPH in 5th gear.  :-)
 
  -- Ben
 
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  ~             http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja                ~
 

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 ~             http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja                ~




 --
 Sherry Abercrombie

 Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
 Arthur C. Clarke



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Fwd: Security Alert: Michael Jackson Death Prompts Malicious Spam

* We received this notification from Websense this morning. I thought it
was pertinent information that should be passed on. http://bd...@kcm.org
*d011

*From:* Websense Security Labs [mailto:donotre...@websensesecuritylabs.com]
*Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2009 7:09 AM
*To:* Duke, Brian
*Subject:* Security Alert: Michael Jackson Death Prompts Malicious Spam

Websense Security Labs(TM) ThreatSeeker(TM) Network has discovered spam
emails offering recipients links to unpublished videos and pictures of
singer Michael Jackson. According to news
reportshttp://edition.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/06/25/michael.jackson/index.htmlMichael
Jackson's death was confirmed yesterday.

The spam email appears to offer a link to a YouTube video, but instead sends
the recipient to a Trojan Downloader hosted on a compromised Web site. The
file offered is called *Michael.Jackson.videos.scr* (MD5:
664cb28ef710e35dc5b7539eb633abca). This file is located on a legitimate Web
site hosted in Australia belonging to a radio broadcasting station. Upon
executing the file, a legitimate Web site at
http://musica.uol.com.br/ultnot/2009/06/25/michael-jackson.jhtm is opened by
the default browser in order to distract the user by presenting a news
article for them to read.

In the background, three further information-stealing components are
downloaded and installed by the malware. One of the downloaded files is
called *michael.gif*, which has low AV detection rates - see VT
results
herehttp://www.virustotal.com/analisis/67cba7b9d91e1cbcac0f22b5f4bcf12f4b07a1a62d7d3018e28ccd5ee93e0ce4-1246012313.
The malware then installs a malicious BHO that is registered with this file
*%windir%/Dynamic.dll* and this GUID {FCADDC14-BD46-408A-9842-CDBE1C6D37EB}.
Another component is bound to startup at *%windir%\system32\kproces.exe*.
Another malicious file installed by the malware is *
%windir%\system32\fotos.exe*.

Websense® Messaging and Websense Web Security customers are protected
against this attack.

To view the details of this alert Click
herehttp://securitylabs.websense.com/content/Alerts/3426.aspx

Protected by Websense Hosted Email Security — www.websense.com
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Sherry Abercrombie

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Arthur C. Clarke

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Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

Thanks, I do too ;)  It's actually somewhat rare to see an Orange Xterra,
Nissan only made them in that color 1 year - 2003.  I figure I've got
another 5-6 years on driving this one.  My last Nissan was a 1995 Pathfinder
that I put over 220K miles on before I finally had it pried out of my hands
(my husband insisted that I needed a newer, more reliable vehicle and there
wasn't anything wrong with the one I had).   It was a little easier when I
found the Xterra to replace it with..I'm fond of my vehicles, put a lot
of mileage on them and expect them to last me 10+ years, therefore, I buy
Nissan.

There, got us somewhat back on-topic for this OT thread.

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr 
michealespin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nice!  I love that color on the Xterra!

 --
 ME2



 On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Sherry Abercrombiesaber...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Yuck, my husband has tried to get me to buy a Forrester for years.  I
 think
  they are ugly.  Personally I love my Nissan Xterra in Atomic Orange.  I
 can
  always find my vehicle in a crowded parking lot.   LOL
 
  On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr
  michealespin...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I believe it.  I've def. had cars that had lower MPG at 75+.  I've
  never seen savings at 55.
 
  --
  ME2
 
 
 
  On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Ben Scottmailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
   On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Sean Martinseanmarti...@gmail.com
   wrote:
Plus it gets like 28 MPG highway if you drive conservatively.
  
   No offense, but I'm trying to picture how would drive a Subura
   Forrester
   other than conservatively. :-)
  
Heh.  :)
  
It's not a race car by any stretch of the imagination, but it can
   get out of its own way.  It will comfortably do 80 on the highway,
   once you get up to speed.  Amazingly enough, doing 80 MPH in 5th gear
   yields lower MPG than doing 65 MPH in 5th gear.  :-)
  
   -- Ben
  
   ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
   ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
  
 
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  ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
 
 
 
 
  --
  Sherry Abercrombie
 
  Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
  Arthur C. Clarke
 
 

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 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~




-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Arthur C. Clarke

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~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

RE: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

2009-06-26 Thread Eldridge, Dave

I'll make note to avoid that date. J

I actually liked the second one better. It was nice to sit back and
watch a blow out against someone else for once. J

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:45 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

Yup, if you're at Wolf Creek the first week of Feb. 2010 you will run
into this Texan.  

Honestly, I loved seeing Elway finally win a Superbowl in 98, especially
against the Packers.   

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Eldridge, Dave d...@parkviewmc.com
wrote:

I knew that I'm rolling on the floor. J

There's such a group hug between Texas and Colorado. I run into you guys
on the slopes all the time. J

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:30 AM

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

Dave Dave Dave, you know for a Texan, them's fightin' words.  

Hook 'em Horns!!  

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Eldridge, Dave d...@parkviewmc.com
wrote:

Sherry you're a Denver Bronco's fan. I never would have guessed. J

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:26 AM

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

Yup, exactly!!  I also have a cell phone that is orangebada Boom!!

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.com
wrote:

That makes sense, you bought a car that matches your hair...BOOM!

Shook

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 10:17 AM

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

Yuck, my husband has tried to get me to buy a Forrester for years.  I
think they are ugly.  Personally I love my Nissan Xterra in Atomic
Orange.  I can always find my vehicle in a crowded parking lot.   LOL

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr
michealespin...@gmail.com wrote:

I believe it.  I've def. had cars that had lower MPG at 75+.  I've
never seen savings at 55.

--
ME2

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Ben Scottmailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Sean Martinseanmarti...@gmail.com
wrote:
  Plus it gets like 28 MPG highway if you drive conservatively.

 No offense, but I'm trying to picture how would drive a Subura
Forrester
 other than conservatively. :-)

  Heh.  :)

  It's not a race car by any stretch of the imagination, but it can
 get out of its own way.  It will comfortably do 80 on the highway,
 once you get up to speed.  Amazingly enough, doing 80 MPH in 5th gear
 yields lower MPG than doing 65 MPH in 5th gear.  :-)

 -- Ben

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 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

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-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. 
Arthur C. Clarke

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Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. 
Arthur C. Clarke

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intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this
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RE: RIM SUPPORT

2009-06-26 Thread Mousa Hamad

You'll have to let us know how that works out. 


We have 15 devices and just got the lowest support package... We are on
BPS, but interestingly they did price us based on the number of devices
we have as well... I found that odd, but just assumed that was how they
did it... I agree though, how many devices I have should be none of
their business... 

Though RIM has already tried their best to alienate us with Verizon's
help by forcing Blackberry Storms down our throat, needless to say I'll
be completing the Curve for Storm switch out TODAY and my users are
already a LOT happier..  


Mousa Hamad
 


-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 6:28 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RIM SUPPORT

Anyone tried www.astrasync.com ?? I'm rolling it out to five users next
week as a test.


From: Ben Scott [mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 7:03 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: RIM SUPPORT

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Jeff Brown2jbr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Again, all they REALLY support for me is ONE BES server.

  Yah, same here.  And really, I'm agreeing with you -- if RIM keeps
pissing off their customers, they'll eventually find they don't have
customers to piss off.

-- Ben

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Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

Ha, you really shouldn't avoid that week, it might be really entertaining to
watch this 40 something year old grandma learn to snowboard!

Yup, that next year was good too.


On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Eldridge, Dave d...@parkviewmc.com wrote:

  I’ll make note to avoid that date. J

 I actually liked the second one better. It was nice to sit back and watch a
 blow out against someone else for once. J



 *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2009 8:45 AM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)



 Yup, if you're at Wolf Creek the first week of Feb. 2010 you will run into
 this Texan.

 Honestly, I loved seeing Elway finally win a Superbowl in 98, especially
 against the Packers.

 On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Eldridge, Dave d...@parkviewmc.com
 wrote:

 I knew that I’m rolling on the floor. J

 There’s such a group hug between Texas and Colorado. I run into you guys on
 the slopes all the time. J



 *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2009 8:30 AM


 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)



 Dave Dave Dave, you know for a Texan, them's fightin' words.

 Hook 'em Horns!!

 On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Eldridge, Dave d...@parkviewmc.com
 wrote:

 Sherry you’re a Denver Bronco’s fan. I never would have guessed. J



 *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2009 8:26 AM


 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)



 Yup, exactly!!  I also have a cell phone that is orangebada Boom!!

 On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.com wrote:

 That makes sense, you bought a car that matches your hair…BOOM!



 Shook



 *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2009 10:17 AM


 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)



 Yuck, my husband has tried to get me to buy a Forrester for years.  I think
 they are ugly.  Personally I love my Nissan Xterra in Atomic Orange.  I can
 always find my vehicle in a crowded parking lot.   LOL

 On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr 
 michealespin...@gmail.com wrote:

 I believe it.  I've def. had cars that had lower MPG at 75+.  I've
 never seen savings at 55.

 --
 ME2




 On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Ben Scottmailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Sean Martinseanmarti...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Plus it gets like 28 MPG highway if you drive conservatively.
 
  No offense, but I'm trying to picture how would drive a Subura Forrester
  other than conservatively. :-)
 
   Heh.  :)
 
   It's not a race car by any stretch of the imagination, but it can
  get out of its own way.  It will comfortably do 80 on the highway,
  once you get up to speed.  Amazingly enough, doing 80 MPH in 5th gear
  yields lower MPG than doing 65 MPH in 5th gear.  :-)
 
  -- Ben
 
  ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
  ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
 

 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~




 --
 Sherry Abercrombie

 Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
 Arthur C. Clarke








 --
 Sherry Abercrombie

 Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
 Arthur C. Clarke



 This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not
 represent official Parkview Medical Center policy.

 This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may
 be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in
 accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended
 recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or
 any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication
 in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer
 system.






 --
 Sherry Abercrombie

 Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
 Arthur C. Clarke



 This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does not
 represent official Parkview Medical Center policy.

 This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above, may
 be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as such in
 accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the intended
 recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this communication, or
 any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have received this communication
 in error, please return to sender and delete the message from your computer
 system.






 --
 Sherry Abercrombie

 Any sufficiently advanced technology

RE: Attachments Issue

2009-06-26 Thread Chris Pohlschneider

I agree with you as well, just making sure I have covered all of my
bases.

From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 10:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Attachments Issue

Well, the fact that it went to the gmail account indicates to me that
it's leaving your server.

From: Chris Pohlschneider [mailto:chris.pohlschnei...@hollowayusa.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 9:53 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Attachments Issue

The issue is that the recipient gets the e-mail every time, but no
attachment most of the time. Sometimes it does go through, but it is
random. I did CC my Gmail account and did get the attachment while the
recipient did not. Unfortunately the recipient is our parent company and
they are trying to figure out if it their exchange server with the issue
or ours. Right now, I don't think the issue is our exchange server.
Appears to be on their, but looking for some ways to validate my belief.

From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 10:49 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Attachments Issue

What kind of issue?  Are you getting a bounce?  Are the attachments
disappearing or the entire message? All attachments or just some?

You could CC the message to your gmail, juno, hotmail, etc. account and
see if it appears there...

From: Chris Pohlschneider [mailto:chris.pohlschnei...@hollowayusa.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 9:28 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Attachments Issue

Hello,

We are having an issue when we try to send an attachment to our parent
company. We have Exchange 2003 Enterprise SP2 running on Windows Server
2003. Is there a way to see if the message containing the attachment
actually leaves our server with the attachment still in tact with the
message? Thanks in advance for any help!

Chris Pohlschneider

Network Administrator

chris.pohlschnei...@hollowayusa.com

937-494-2559

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RE: Attachments Issue

2009-06-26 Thread Chris Pohlschneider

The issue is that the recipient gets the e-mail every time, but no
attachment most of the time. Sometimes it does go through, but it is
random. I did CC my Gmail account and did get the attachment while the
recipient did not. Unfortunately the recipient is our parent company and
they are trying to figure out if it their exchange server with the issue
or ours. Right now, I don't think the issue is our exchange server.
Appears to be on their, but looking for some ways to validate my belief.


 



From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 10:49 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Attachments Issue

 

What kind of issue?  Are you getting a bounce?  Are the attachments
disappearing or the entire message? All attachments or just some?

 

You could CC the message to your gmail, juno, hotmail, etc. account and
see if it appears there...

 



From: Chris Pohlschneider [mailto:chris.pohlschnei...@hollowayusa.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 9:28 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Attachments Issue

Hello,

 

We are having an issue when we try to send an attachment to our parent
company. We have Exchange 2003 Enterprise SP2 running on Windows Server
2003. Is there a way to see if the message containing the attachment
actually leaves our server with the attachment still in tact with the
message? Thanks in advance for any help!

 

Chris Pohlschneider

Network Administrator

chris.pohlschnei...@hollowayusa.com

937-494-2559

 

 

 

 


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Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

2009-06-26 Thread Ben Scott

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Ben Scottmailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
 Amazingly enough, doing 80 MPH in 5th gear
 yields lower MPG than doing 65 MPH in 5th gear.  :-)

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Micheal Espinola
Jrmichealespin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I believe it.  I've def. had cars that had lower MPG at 75+.  I've
 never seen savings at 55.

  Gah, I'm an idiot. I  reversed the intended sense in my statement.
I was trying to be sarcastic with the Amazingly, and so reinforced
the confusion.

  MPG is better at 65 MPH than 80 MPH.  How much, I'm not sure, but I
know I can use less gas if I drive less aggressively.

I do tend to drive aggressively.  I also haven't had the plugs
changed in too long.  And I'm an AC junky.  So I typically get between
21 and 25 MPG in my 9-year-old Forrester.  On all-highway trips when
it was new, 28 to 30 MPG, easily.

  80 MPH is pushing the engine a bit, I think.  Not oh my God it's
going to explode, but it's starting to whine a little.  I got it up
to just over 90 MPH once, then concern for both road safety and the
engine won over and I backed off.  The speedometer goes up to 120 MPH
but I think that's being optimistic.  90 was already getting close to
redline, and the engine sounded like a blender on puree.  This is on
the 4-cylinder base engine.  They have an H6 on some models that's
considerably beefier, or so I've read.

  It's interesting to hear that some cars get lower MPG at higher
speeds.  I wouldn't have expected that.

-- Ben

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RE: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

2009-06-26 Thread Cameron

I'll stick to my Echo...2005, 200,000kms and I can still get rubber from 2nd
gear and I've had it up to almost 120mph. At 54mpg it rocks! My 97 Dakota
(350,000kms)(motor still runs like a top) takes 2 tanks (80 litre tank) for
every 1 (38 litre tank) on the Toyota and won't start when it's wetwant
to guess which vehicle I like better?

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: June-26-09 11:47 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Ben Scottmailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
 Amazingly enough, doing 80 MPH in 5th gear
 yields lower MPG than doing 65 MPH in 5th gear.  :-)

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Micheal Espinola
Jrmichealespin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I believe it.  I've def. had cars that had lower MPG at 75+.  I've
 never seen savings at 55.

  Gah, I'm an idiot. I  reversed the intended sense in my statement.
I was trying to be sarcastic with the Amazingly, and so reinforced
the confusion.

  MPG is better at 65 MPH than 80 MPH.  How much, I'm not sure, but I
know I can use less gas if I drive less aggressively.

I do tend to drive aggressively.  I also haven't had the plugs
changed in too long.  And I'm an AC junky.  So I typically get between
21 and 25 MPG in my 9-year-old Forrester.  On all-highway trips when
it was new, 28 to 30 MPG, easily.

  80 MPH is pushing the engine a bit, I think.  Not oh my God it's
going to explode, but it's starting to whine a little.  I got it up
to just over 90 MPH once, then concern for both road safety and the
engine won over and I backed off.  The speedometer goes up to 120 MPH
but I think that's being optimistic.  90 was already getting close to
redline, and the engine sounded like a blender on puree.  This is on
the 4-cylinder base engine.  They have an H6 on some models that's
considerably beefier, or so I've read.

  It's interesting to hear that some cars get lower MPG at higher
speeds.  I wouldn't have expected that.

-- Ben

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Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

2009-06-26 Thread Sean Martin

All joking aside, I do envy the efficiency of cars capable of 20+ MPG. I've
got a 2008 GMC Sierra 3500HD, Duramax, 6 speed allison transmission (I use
it to pull a 38ft 5th wheel). Thanks to updated emmissions regulations put
into effect the second half of 2007, I'm lucky if I see 12-13 MPG. Previous
Duramax models easily saw 18-20 MPG.

- Sean

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 7:47 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Ben Scottmailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
  Amazingly enough, doing 80 MPH in 5th gear
  yields lower MPG than doing 65 MPH in 5th gear.  :-)

 On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Micheal Espinola
 Jrmichealespin...@gmail.com wrote:
  I believe it.  I've def. had cars that had lower MPG at 75+.  I've
  never seen savings at 55.

  Gah, I'm an idiot. I  reversed the intended sense in my statement.
 I was trying to be sarcastic with the Amazingly, and so reinforced
 the confusion.

  MPG is better at 65 MPH than 80 MPH.  How much, I'm not sure, but I
 know I can use less gas if I drive less aggressively.

I do tend to drive aggressively.  I also haven't had the plugs
 changed in too long.  And I'm an AC junky.  So I typically get between
 21 and 25 MPG in my 9-year-old Forrester.  On all-highway trips when
 it was new, 28 to 30 MPG, easily.

  80 MPH is pushing the engine a bit, I think.  Not oh my God it's
 going to explode, but it's starting to whine a little.  I got it up
 to just over 90 MPH once, then concern for both road safety and the
 engine won over and I backed off.  The speedometer goes up to 120 MPH
 but I think that's being optimistic.  90 was already getting close to
 redline, and the engine sounded like a blender on puree.  This is on
 the 4-cylinder base engine.  They have an H6 on some models that's
 considerably beefier, or so I've read.

  It's interesting to hear that some cars get lower MPG at higher
 speeds.  I wouldn't have expected that.

 -- Ben

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Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

2009-06-26 Thread Steve Ens

Honda Odyssey here...can hit 32mpg with seven adults and AC running at
80mpg!

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.comwrote:

 All joking aside, I do envy the efficiency of cars capable of 20+ MPG. I've
 got a 2008 GMC Sierra 3500HD, Duramax, 6 speed allison transmission (I use
 it to pull a 38ft 5th wheel). Thanks to updated emmissions regulations put
 into effect the second half of 2007, I'm lucky if I see 12-13 MPG. Previous
 Duramax models easily saw 18-20 MPG.

 - Sean

 On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 7:47 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Ben Scottmailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
  Amazingly enough, doing 80 MPH in 5th gear
  yields lower MPG than doing 65 MPH in 5th gear.  :-)

 On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Micheal Espinola
 Jrmichealespin...@gmail.com wrote:
  I believe it.  I've def. had cars that had lower MPG at 75+.  I've
  never seen savings at 55.

  Gah, I'm an idiot. I  reversed the intended sense in my statement.
 I was trying to be sarcastic with the Amazingly, and so reinforced
 the confusion.

  MPG is better at 65 MPH than 80 MPH.  How much, I'm not sure, but I
 know I can use less gas if I drive less aggressively.

I do tend to drive aggressively.  I also haven't had the plugs
 changed in too long.  And I'm an AC junky.  So I typically get between
 21 and 25 MPG in my 9-year-old Forrester.  On all-highway trips when
 it was new, 28 to 30 MPG, easily.

  80 MPH is pushing the engine a bit, I think.  Not oh my God it's
 going to explode, but it's starting to whine a little.  I got it up
 to just over 90 MPH once, then concern for both road safety and the
 engine won over and I backed off.  The speedometer goes up to 120 MPH
 but I think that's being optimistic.  90 was already getting close to
 redline, and the engine sounded like a blender on puree.  This is on
 the 4-cylinder base engine.  They have an H6 on some models that's
 considerably beefier, or so I've read.

  It's interesting to hear that some cars get lower MPG at higher
 speeds.  I wouldn't have expected that.

 -- Ben

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RE: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

Nice rig.

 

I did love my chipped F350 w7.3 liter PowerStroke.

 

-sc

 

From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 12:30 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

 

All joking aside, I do envy the efficiency of cars capable of 20+ MPG.
I've got a 2008 GMC Sierra 3500HD, Duramax, 6 speed allison transmission
(I use it to pull a 38ft 5th wheel). Thanks to updated emmissions
regulations put into effect the second half of 2007, I'm lucky if I see
12-13 MPG. Previous Duramax models easily saw 18-20 MPG.

 

- Sean

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 7:47 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Ben Scottmailvor...@gmail.com wrote:

 Amazingly enough, doing 80 MPH in 5th gear
 yields lower MPG than doing 65 MPH in 5th gear.  :-)

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Micheal Espinola

Jrmichealespin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I believe it.  I've def. had cars that had lower MPG at 75+.  I've
 never seen savings at 55.

 Gah, I'm an idiot. I  reversed the intended sense in my statement.
I was trying to be sarcastic with the Amazingly, and so reinforced
the confusion.

 MPG is better at 65 MPH than 80 MPH.  How much, I'm not sure, but I
know I can use less gas if I drive less aggressively.

   I do tend to drive aggressively.  I also haven't had the plugs
changed in too long.  And I'm an AC junky.  So I typically get between
21 and 25 MPG in my 9-year-old Forrester.  On all-highway trips when
it was new, 28 to 30 MPG, easily.

 80 MPH is pushing the engine a bit, I think.  Not oh my God it's
going to explode, but it's starting to whine a little.  I got it up
to just over 90 MPH once, then concern for both road safety and the
engine won over and I backed off.  The speedometer goes up to 120 MPH
but I think that's being optimistic.  90 was already getting close to
redline, and the engine sounded like a blender on puree.  This is on
the 4-cylinder base engine.  They have an H6 on some models that's
considerably beefier, or so I've read.

 It's interesting to hear that some cars get lower MPG at higher
speeds.  I wouldn't have expected that.


-- Ben

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Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

2009-06-26 Thread Sean Martin

Thanks. It has been a great truck. I got a SuperChips programmer for it. It
doesn't pull quite as much power out of it as some of the other
chip/programmers available, but it came with a warranty and I like the
different tuning levels based on the amount I'm towing. As soon as the
factory warranty runs out, I'll be looking at removing the diesel
particulate filter, which I understand is mostly responsible for the drop in
fuel economy.

I will say this, Its nice to see diesel prices stay consistent with current
rise in gas prices.

- Sean

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.comwrote:

  Nice rig.



 I did love my chipped F350 w7.3 liter PowerStroke.



 -sc



 *From:* Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2009 12:30 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)



 All joking aside, I do envy the efficiency of cars capable of 20+ MPG. I've
 got a 2008 GMC Sierra 3500HD, Duramax, 6 speed allison transmission (I use
 it to pull a 38ft 5th wheel). Thanks to updated emmissions regulations put
 into effect the second half of 2007, I'm lucky if I see 12-13 MPG. Previous
 Duramax models easily saw 18-20 MPG.



 - Sean

 On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 7:47 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Ben Scottmailvor...@gmail.com wrote:

  Amazingly enough, doing 80 MPH in 5th gear
  yields lower MPG than doing 65 MPH in 5th gear.  :-)

 On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Micheal Espinola

 Jrmichealespin...@gmail.com wrote:
  I believe it.  I've def. had cars that had lower MPG at 75+.  I've
  never seen savings at 55.

  Gah, I'm an idiot. I  reversed the intended sense in my statement.
 I was trying to be sarcastic with the Amazingly, and so reinforced
 the confusion.

  MPG is better at 65 MPH than 80 MPH.  How much, I'm not sure, but I
 know I can use less gas if I drive less aggressively.

I do tend to drive aggressively.  I also haven't had the plugs
 changed in too long.  And I'm an AC junky.  So I typically get between
 21 and 25 MPG in my 9-year-old Forrester.  On all-highway trips when
 it was new, 28 to 30 MPG, easily.

  80 MPH is pushing the engine a bit, I think.  Not oh my God it's
 going to explode, but it's starting to whine a little.  I got it up
 to just over 90 MPH once, then concern for both road safety and the
 engine won over and I backed off.  The speedometer goes up to 120 MPH
 but I think that's being optimistic.  90 was already getting close to
 redline, and the engine sounded like a blender on puree.  This is on
 the 4-cylinder base engine.  They have an H6 on some models that's
 considerably beefier, or so I've read.

  It's interesting to hear that some cars get lower MPG at higher
 speeds.  I wouldn't have expected that.


 -- Ben

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Re: RIM SUPPORT

2009-06-26 Thread Jeff Brown

We had a round of lay-off's in November, and then some more in January.
 Things are beginning to look up, maybe, but we are a LONG way from being
willing to shell out 6 large for that support.  We have a lead on a
contractor that is supposedly authorized by RIM who offers support
contracts.  Will let you know where that leads.

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Mousa Hamad mha...@zetron.com wrote:

 You'll have to let us know how that works out.


 We have 15 devices and just got the lowest support package... We are on
 BPS, but interestingly they did price us based on the number of devices
 we have as well... I found that odd, but just assumed that was how they
 did it... I agree though, how many devices I have should be none of
 their business...

 Though RIM has already tried their best to alienate us with Verizon's
 help by forcing Blackberry Storms down our throat, needless to say I'll
 be completing the Curve for Storm switch out TODAY and my users are
 already a LOT happier..


 Mousa Hamad



 -Original Message-
 From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com]
 Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 6:28 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: RIM SUPPORT

 Anyone tried www.astrasync.com ?? I'm rolling it out to five users next
 week as a test.

 
 From: Ben Scott [mailvor...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 7:03 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: RIM SUPPORT

 On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Jeff Brown2jbr...@gmail.com wrote:
  Again, all they REALLY support for me is ONE BES server.

  Yah, same here.  And really, I'm agreeing with you -- if RIM keeps
 pissing off their customers, they'll eventually find they don't have
 customers to piss off.

 -- Ben

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Re: RIM SUPPORT

2009-06-26 Thread Mike Sullivan

We've never paid for RIM support. Instead, we call our carrier (Verizon) and
have them help us and when they can't figure out the issue they implement
the call to RIM. We've only had to do this about 4 times in 2.5 years. We
have 110 licenses (104 in use).
Maybe you can take a similar route?

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.com wrote:

 We had a round of lay-off's in November, and then some more in January.
  Things are beginning to look up, maybe, but we are a LONG way from being
 willing to shell out 6 large for that support.  We have a lead on a
 contractor that is supposedly authorized by RIM who offers support
 contracts.  Will let you know where that leads.


 On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Mousa Hamad mha...@zetron.com wrote:

 You'll have to let us know how that works out.


 We have 15 devices and just got the lowest support package... We are on
 BPS, but interestingly they did price us based on the number of devices
 we have as well... I found that odd, but just assumed that was how they
 did it... I agree though, how many devices I have should be none of
 their business...

 Though RIM has already tried their best to alienate us with Verizon's
 help by forcing Blackberry Storms down our throat, needless to say I'll
 be completing the Curve for Storm switch out TODAY and my users are
 already a LOT happier..


 Mousa Hamad



 -Original Message-
 From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com]
 Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 6:28 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: RIM SUPPORT

 Anyone tried www.astrasync.com ?? I'm rolling it out to five users next
 week as a test.

 
 From: Ben Scott [mailvor...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 7:03 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: RIM SUPPORT

 On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Jeff Brown2jbr...@gmail.com wrote:
  Again, all they REALLY support for me is ONE BES server.

  Yah, same here.  And really, I'm agreeing with you -- if RIM keeps
 pissing off their customers, they'll eventually find they don't have
 customers to piss off.

 -- Ben

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RE: BES upgrade to 5.0

2009-06-26 Thread Brown, Larry

I have my phone set for 30 days...but then I try not to keep any email in my 
inbox.  Unfortunately the BES admin before me told the execs they could keep 
all of their email.  Yeah, it's a nightmare for me.

Next policy upgrade I'm going to push the idea of 30 days (2 weeks would never 
fly).  We have different management now...they may back me.

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 4:30 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BES upgrade to 5.0

WOW! 6 months. Try 2 weeks here. Keeps them running smooth.

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP

From: Brown, Larry [mailto:larry.br...@dplinc.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 4:30 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BES upgrade to 5.0

execs that are in there own mail store and they do have large email stores.

Keep in mind that if they have their Blackberry's configured to keep all email 
the device may run low on memory.  This is especially critical on the Pearl, 
which tends to eat up what little memory it has with the OS.  Also, if your 
execs are like mine they like to play, and are always loading software on to 
their phones.  If the device is low on memory, the device may start deleting 
new emails and appointment requests.  What looks like an Exchange/BES issue is 
actually a device issue.

The fix is to set an IT policy on BES that will only allow users to keep 6 
months or 3 months of email on their phone and will keep users from loading 
programs...IF your allowed to do that to your execs.

From: David.Ricci [mailto:david.ri...@hwinstitute.com]
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 4:40 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BES upgrade to 5.0

I was wondering the same thing.  I am have problems with my 4.1.4 and will be 
doing patching tonight.  I have latency, and calendar problems.  I have checked 
cdo and mapi dll files and same version of exchange.  Cannot figure it out 
seems to be only happening to the exec that are in there own mail store and 
they do have large email stores.  Hoping this fixes it cause they are missing 
appointments.

Any advise would be helpful

Thank you,

David

From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 4:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: BES upgrade to 5.0

I saw a post a week or so back but didn't see a lot of response.  Am thinking 
about upgrading my BES server to the new 5.0 version for Exchange.  Anyone do 
this and run into trouble so far?

Thanks for any help.  Jeff

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RE: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

No kidding... a $1.50 premium was a bit steep.

 

Fortunately my rig was before the mandatory EGR stuff.

 

My chip was a 3-level switchable... it had a nice torque mode for
pulling the trailer...

 

You have gauges?

 

-sc

 

From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 12:47 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

 

Thanks. It has been a great truck. I got a SuperChips programmer for it.
It doesn't pull quite as much power out of it as some of the other
chip/programmers available, but it came with a warranty and I like the
different tuning levels based on the amount I'm towing. As soon as the
factory warranty runs out, I'll be looking at removing the diesel
particulate filter, which I understand is mostly responsible for the
drop in fuel economy.

 

I will say this, Its nice to see diesel prices stay consistent with
current rise in gas prices.

 

- Sean

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Steven M. Caesare
scaes...@caesare.com wrote:

Nice rig.

 

I did love my chipped F350 w7.3 liter PowerStroke.

 

-sc

 

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Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 12:30 PM 


To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

 

All joking aside, I do envy the efficiency of cars capable of 20+ MPG.
I've got a 2008 GMC Sierra 3500HD, Duramax, 6 speed allison transmission
(I use it to pull a 38ft 5th wheel). Thanks to updated emmissions
regulations put into effect the second half of 2007, I'm lucky if I see
12-13 MPG. Previous Duramax models easily saw 18-20 MPG.

 

- Sean

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 7:47 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Ben Scottmailvor...@gmail.com wrote:

 Amazingly enough, doing 80 MPH in 5th gear
 yields lower MPG than doing 65 MPH in 5th gear.  :-)

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Micheal Espinola

Jrmichealespin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I believe it.  I've def. had cars that had lower MPG at 75+.  I've
 never seen savings at 55.

 Gah, I'm an idiot. I  reversed the intended sense in my statement.
I was trying to be sarcastic with the Amazingly, and so reinforced
the confusion.

 MPG is better at 65 MPH than 80 MPH.  How much, I'm not sure, but I
know I can use less gas if I drive less aggressively.

   I do tend to drive aggressively.  I also haven't had the plugs
changed in too long.  And I'm an AC junky.  So I typically get between
21 and 25 MPG in my 9-year-old Forrester.  On all-highway trips when
it was new, 28 to 30 MPG, easily.

 80 MPH is pushing the engine a bit, I think.  Not oh my God it's
going to explode, but it's starting to whine a little.  I got it up
to just over 90 MPH once, then concern for both road safety and the
engine won over and I backed off.  The speedometer goes up to 120 MPH
but I think that's being optimistic.  90 was already getting close to
redline, and the engine sounded like a blender on puree.  This is on
the 4-cylinder base engine.  They have an H6 on some models that's
considerably beefier, or so I've read.

 It's interesting to hear that some cars get lower MPG at higher
speeds.  I wouldn't have expected that.


-- Ben

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2009-06-26 Thread Don Andrews

Sensible people seem to stick with brands that they have had good luck
with.  I've had great luck with Honda cars and Toyota trucks.  I finally
had to give my 91 Integra to my son a couple of years ago when I bought
my FJ Cruiser (never got over the 70 Land Cruiser I had).

 



From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:03 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

 

Thanks, I do too ;)  It's actually somewhat rare to see an Orange
Xterra, Nissan only made them in that color 1 year - 2003.  I figure
I've got another 5-6 years on driving this one.  My last Nissan was a
1995 Pathfinder that I put over 220K miles on before I finally had it
pried out of my hands (my husband insisted that I needed a newer, more
reliable vehicle and there wasn't anything wrong with the one I had).
It was a little easier when I found the Xterra to replace it
with..I'm fond of my vehicles, put a lot of mileage on them and
expect them to last me 10+ years, therefore, I buy Nissan.  

There, got us somewhat back on-topic for this OT thread.  

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr
michealespin...@gmail.com wrote:

Nice!  I love that color on the Xterra!

--
ME2




On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Sherry Abercrombiesaber...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Yuck, my husband has tried to get me to buy a Forrester for years.  I
think
 they are ugly.  Personally I love my Nissan Xterra in Atomic Orange.
I can
 always find my vehicle in a crowded parking lot.   LOL

 On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr
 michealespin...@gmail.com wrote:

 I believe it.  I've def. had cars that had lower MPG at 75+.  I've
 never seen savings at 55.

 --
 ME2



 On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Ben Scottmailvor...@gmail.com
wrote:
  On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Sean
Martinseanmarti...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   Plus it gets like 28 MPG highway if you drive conservatively.
 
  No offense, but I'm trying to picture how would drive a Subura
  Forrester
  other than conservatively. :-)
 
   Heh.  :)
 
   It's not a race car by any stretch of the imagination, but it can
  get out of its own way.  It will comfortably do 80 on the highway,
  once you get up to speed.  Amazingly enough, doing 80 MPH in 5th
gear
  yields lower MPG than doing 65 MPH in 5th gear.  :-)
 
  -- Ben
 
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Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)

2009-06-26 Thread Sean Martin

No gauges. The only thing I'm really missing is a boost gauge. It would be
nice to have a transmission temp gauge easily viewable rather than having to
cycle through the on-board options.

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.comwrote:

  No kidding… a $1.50 premium was a bit steep.



 Fortunately my rig was before the mandatory EGR stuff.



 My chip was a 3-level switchable… it had a nice torque mode for pulling the
 trailer…



 You have gauges?



 -sc



 *From:* Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2009 12:47 PM

 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)



 Thanks. It has been a great truck. I got a SuperChips programmer for it. It
 doesn't pull quite as much power out of it as some of the other
 chip/programmers available, but it came with a warranty and I like the
 different tuning levels based on the amount I'm towing. As soon as the
 factory warranty runs out, I'll be looking at removing the diesel
 particulate filter, which I understand is mostly responsible for the drop in
 fuel economy.



 I will say this, Its nice to see diesel prices stay consistent with current
 rise in gas prices.



 - Sean

 On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com
 wrote:

 Nice rig.



 I did love my chipped F350 w7.3 liter PowerStroke.



 -sc



 *From:* Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2009 12:30 PM


 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT: American automotive (was: Is Exchange Doomed?)



 All joking aside, I do envy the efficiency of cars capable of 20+ MPG. I've
 got a 2008 GMC Sierra 3500HD, Duramax, 6 speed allison transmission (I use
 it to pull a 38ft 5th wheel). Thanks to updated emmissions regulations put
 into effect the second half of 2007, I'm lucky if I see 12-13 MPG. Previous
 Duramax models easily saw 18-20 MPG.



 - Sean

 On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 7:47 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Ben Scottmailvor...@gmail.com wrote:

  Amazingly enough, doing 80 MPH in 5th gear
  yields lower MPG than doing 65 MPH in 5th gear.  :-)

 On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Micheal Espinola

 Jrmichealespin...@gmail.com wrote:
  I believe it.  I've def. had cars that had lower MPG at 75+.  I've
  never seen savings at 55.

  Gah, I'm an idiot. I  reversed the intended sense in my statement.
 I was trying to be sarcastic with the Amazingly, and so reinforced
 the confusion.

  MPG is better at 65 MPH than 80 MPH.  How much, I'm not sure, but I
 know I can use less gas if I drive less aggressively.

I do tend to drive aggressively.  I also haven't had the plugs
 changed in too long.  And I'm an AC junky.  So I typically get between
 21 and 25 MPG in my 9-year-old Forrester.  On all-highway trips when
 it was new, 28 to 30 MPG, easily.

  80 MPH is pushing the engine a bit, I think.  Not oh my God it's
 going to explode, but it's starting to whine a little.  I got it up
 to just over 90 MPH once, then concern for both road safety and the
 engine won over and I backed off.  The speedometer goes up to 120 MPH
 but I think that's being optimistic.  90 was already getting close to
 redline, and the engine sounded like a blender on puree.  This is on
 the 4-cylinder base engine.  They have an H6 on some models that's
 considerably beefier, or so I've read.

  It's interesting to hear that some cars get lower MPG at higher
 speeds.  I wouldn't have expected that.


 -- Ben

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