RE: Windows Mobile 7

2011-03-08 Thread John Hornbuckle
The feedback I've heard on IE in WP7 has been overwhelmingly positive, and I 
haven't run into many rendering issues with the sites I visit on my WP7 device. 
But to each his own.  :-)

You might try something like this:

http://kiapps.net/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=6:surfcubecatid=1:appsbyresponseItemid=2

I think it's based on IE, so I don't know if it will solve the rendering issues 
you're seeing. But it adds some other features, and I read somewhere that it 
manages favorites differently.


John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.ushttp://www.taylor.k12.fl.us



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Subject: OT: Windows Mobile 7

Does anyone know of an alternative browser available for the Win Mobile 7 
phones.
IE is horrible. No folders for favorites, does not show many sites properly, 
etc.

Thx in advance

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RE: Windows Mobile 7

2011-03-08 Thread KevinM
I second that... I've not ran into any site that does not work for me.

From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:28 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows Mobile 7

The feedback I've heard on IE in WP7 has been overwhelmingly positive, and I 
haven't run into many rendering issues with the sites I visit on my WP7 device. 
But to each his own.  :-)

You might try something like this:

http://kiapps.net/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=6:surfcubecatid=1:appsbyresponseItemid=2

I think it's based on IE, so I don't know if it will solve the rendering issues 
you're seeing. But it adds some other features, and I read somewhere that it 
manages favorites differently.


John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.ushttp://www.taylor.k12.fl.us



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Does anyone know of an alternative browser available for the Win Mobile 7 
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IE is horrible. No folders for favorites, does not show many sites properly, 
etc.

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RE: Windows Mobile 7

2011-03-08 Thread Matt Moore
Yeppers that's a third from me although I wish Pandora would get going for
widow phone...

M

 

From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 8:40 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows Mobile 7

 

I second that. I've not ran into any site that does not work for me. 

 

From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:28 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows Mobile 7

 

The feedback I've heard on IE in WP7 has been overwhelmingly positive, and I
haven't run into many rendering issues with the sites I visit on my WP7
device. But to each his own.  :-)

 

You might try something like this:

 

http://kiapps.net/index.php?option=com_content
http://kiapps.net/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=6:surfcubec
atid=1:appsbyresponseItemid=2
view=articleid=6:surfcubecatid=1:appsbyresponseItemid=2

 

I think it's based on IE, so I don't know if it will solve the rendering
issues you're seeing. But it adds some other features, and I read somewhere
that it manages favorites differently.

 

 

John Hornbuckle

MIS Department

Taylor County School District

www.taylor.k12.fl.us

 

 

 

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Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 4:20 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Windows Mobile 7

 

Does anyone know of an alternative browser available for the Win Mobile 7
phones.
IE is horrible. No folders for favorites, does not show many sites properly,
etc.

Thx in advance

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Re: Windows Mobile 7

2011-03-08 Thread sms adm
They render, but wrongly. (Never had the problem with my ipod Touch)
Many do not scale, text goes off the right side of the page, and you can't
pinch the screen to get it to scale.  Many. M.cnet.com is one off the top of
my head.

My son in law's Android doesn't have folders in their browser either, so
maybe the ipod touch spoiled me, but with over 100 links/favorites,
scrolling thaata list repeatedly blows.

If this thing wasn't free (work) 

Thx all for the suggestions.

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:40 AM, KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.org wrote:

 I second that… I’ve not ran into any site that does not work for me.



 *From:* John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:28 AM

 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Windows Mobile 7



 The feedback I’ve heard on IE in WP7 has been overwhelmingly positive, and
 I haven’t run into many rendering issues with the sites I visit on my WP7
 device. But to each his own.  :-)



 You might try something like this:




 http://kiapps.net/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=6:surfcubecatid=1:appsbyresponseItemid=2



 I think it’s based on IE, so I don’t know if it will solve the rendering
 issues you’re seeing. But it adds some other features, and I read somewhere
 that it manages favorites differently.





 John Hornbuckle

 MIS Department

 Taylor County School District

 www.taylor.k12.fl.us







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 *Sent:* Monday, March 07, 2011 4:20 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* OT: Windows Mobile 7



 Does anyone know of an alternative browser available for the Win Mobile 7
 phones.
 IE is horrible. No folders for favorites, does not show many sites
 properly, etc.

 Thx in advance

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Re: activesync on iphone still syncing after password change

2011-03-08 Thread Bill Songstad
I'm trying to get my head around the expected behavior here and I must be
missing something.  As Michael states, the user is still using the old
ticket, but it should expire after the default 15 minutes, right?  Or is it
using the Kerberos service token with a 10 hr expiration?

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/152526  discusses the IIS user tokens and
their default update interval of 15 minutes.  But the kerberos service token
is good for 10 hrs.

Since my user's phone didn't ask for the new password for about 4 hrs, I'm
assuming the token used for access was the service token.

So what is the IIS user token and why isn't it doing anything?  Obviously
there is a gap in my knowledge, but I'm not finding a bridge.

Can someone shed some light on my dimness.

-Bill



On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote:

  Works as designed.



 IIS still has a valid ticket with the old password. Bounce IIS or recycle
 the app pool and it’ll stop working.



 Regards,



 Michael B. Smith

 Consultant and Exchange MVP

 http://TheEssentialExchange.com http://theessentialexchange.com/



 *From:* Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, March 07, 2011 2:13 PM

 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* activesync on iphone still syncing after password change



 I have a user that forgot their password after a few weeks of using the
 password.  Couldn't log into OWA manually, but their iphone was able to send
 and receive fine with the cached password.  We reset the password on the
 domain.  User logs in to OWA using the new password.  Does not change the
 password on iphone.  Now the user is sending from OWA and the iphone.  Two
 passwords.  One account.  Success both ways.  My knowledge tells me this is
 impossible.  My eyes tell me otherwise.  Could this just be the old
 activesync session?  or is something horribly wrong?  or another option
 more likely?



 as always, thanks for any assistance,



 -Bill

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RE: Windows Mobile 7

2011-03-08 Thread Don Andrews
Wow, you have over 100 job required links?  That's quite a few.


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Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 10:26 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows Mobile 7

They render, but wrongly. (Never had the problem with my ipod Touch)
Many do not scale, text goes off the right side of the page, and you can't 
pinch the screen to get it to scale.  Many. M.cnet.comhttp://M.cnet.com is 
one off the top of my head.

My son in law's Android doesn't have folders in their browser either, so maybe 
the ipod touch spoiled me, but with over 100 links/favorites, scrolling thaata 
list repeatedly blows.

If this thing wasn't free (work) 

Thx all for the suggestions.
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:40 AM, KevinM 
kev...@wlkmmas.orgmailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org wrote:
I second that... I've not ran into any site that does not work for me.

From: John Hornbuckle 
[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:28 AM

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows Mobile 7

The feedback I've heard on IE in WP7 has been overwhelmingly positive, and I 
haven't run into many rendering issues with the sites I visit on my WP7 device. 
But to each his own.  :-)

You might try something like this:

http://kiapps.net/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=6:surfcubecatid=1:appsbyresponseItemid=2

I think it's based on IE, so I don't know if it will solve the rendering issues 
you're seeing. But it adds some other features, and I read somewhere that it 
manages favorites differently.


John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.ushttp://www.taylor.k12.fl.us



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Subject: OT: Windows Mobile 7

Does anyone know of an alternative browser available for the Win Mobile 7 
phones.
IE is horrible. No folders for favorites, does not show many sites properly, 
etc.

Thx in advance

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Exchange 2010 Migration Planning - Database Size?

2011-03-08 Thread Paul Hutchings
I've been getting conflicting suggestions on the sensible maximum database size 
to use when we go to Exchange 2010.

Initially we should be going with a single HT/CAS/MBX box with a view to 
perhaps bringing in a DAG pretty soon.

Some people are suggesting 200gb is the biggest they'd let a single database 
grow to, some MS docs suggest 2tb.

If I split our users across three databases we'd be well under 200gb per 
database but if we increase mailbox quotas we may stray above.

Assuming proper storage/lots of IOPS/spindles etc. what is the sweet spot?

Between SAN snapshots and our backup software I'm not expecting RTO/RPO to be a 
significant issue.

Thanks,
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RE: Exchange 2010 Migration Planning - Database Size?

2011-03-08 Thread Young, Darren
We're trying to stick under 500GB per store. In the event DAG fails and we have 
to go to tape, FCP LTO-4 can restore 500GB. It'd blow the RTO but really bad 
stuff does happen.

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 12:34 PM
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Subject: Exchange 2010 Migration Planning - Database Size?


I've been getting conflicting suggestions on the sensible maximum database size 
to use when we go to Exchange 2010.

Initially we should be going with a single HT/CAS/MBX box with a view to 
perhaps bringing in a DAG pretty soon.

Some people are suggesting 200gb is the biggest they'd let a single database 
grow to, some MS docs suggest 2tb.

If I split our users across three databases we'd be well under 200gb per 
database but if we increase mailbox quotas we may stray above.

Assuming proper storage/lots of IOPS/spindles etc. what is the sweet spot?

Between SAN snapshots and our backup software I'm not expecting RTO/RPO to be a 
significant issue.

Thanks,
Paul


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Re: Exchange 2010 Migration Planning - Database Size?

2011-03-08 Thread Sean Martin
The database size recommendations are based on your RTO. If you're relying
on tape backup, keep the DBs under 200GB. If you have more than 3 copies of
your DBs in a DAG, than the size recommendations will grow.  Read this
http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2009/11/09/453117.aspx and download the
storage calculator.

- Sean

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Paul Hutchings paul.hutchi...@mira.co.ukwrote:

  I've been getting conflicting suggestions on the sensible maximum
 database size to use when we go to Exchange 2010.

 Initially we should be going with a single HT/CAS/MBX box with a view to
 perhaps bringing in a DAG pretty soon.

 Some people are suggesting 200gb is the biggest they'd let a single
 database grow to, some MS docs suggest 2tb.

 If I split our users across three databases we'd be well under 200gb per
 database but if we increase mailbox quotas we may stray above.

 Assuming proper storage/lots of IOPS/spindles etc. what is the sweet
 spot?

 Between SAN snapshots and our backup software I'm not expecting RTO/RPO to
 be a significant issue.

 Thanks,
 Paul
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Re: Exchange 2010 Migration Planning - Database Size?

2011-03-08 Thread Harry Singh
I've read documentation indicating a fine tuned deleted
item retention policy and an enforceable mailbox quota policy should be
considered when looking at DB sizing as well.

Disclaimer: I'm not an exchange expert and currently have 3 DB's all under
200GB each. Also, interested in how other admins configure their deleted
item retention policy if different than the standard 30 day period.



On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote:

 The database size recommendations are based on your RTO. If you're relying
 on tape backup, keep the DBs under 200GB. If you have more than 3 copies of
 your DBs in a DAG, than the size recommendations will grow.  Read this
 http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2009/11/09/453117.aspx and download the
 storage calculator.

 - Sean

 On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Paul Hutchings 
 paul.hutchi...@mira.co.ukwrote:

  I've been getting conflicting suggestions on the sensible maximum
 database size to use when we go to Exchange 2010.

 Initially we should be going with a single HT/CAS/MBX box with a view to
 perhaps bringing in a DAG pretty soon.

 Some people are suggesting 200gb is the biggest they'd let a single
 database grow to, some MS docs suggest 2tb.

 If I split our users across three databases we'd be well under 200gb per
 database but if we increase mailbox quotas we may stray above.

 Assuming proper storage/lots of IOPS/spindles etc. what is the sweet
 spot?

 Between SAN snapshots and our backup software I'm not expecting RTO/RPO to
 be a significant issue.

 Thanks,
 Paul
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OT: Upgrading from 2003R2 to 2008R2

2011-03-08 Thread Paul Steele
One of our summer tasks is upgrading a couple of servers from 2003R2 to 2008R2, 
using existing hardware. The servers are only used for file sharing so the 
upgrade is pretty simple except for one issue. Both servers have close to 1000 
gigs of shared data on drive D (accessed via shares). In order to avoid a 
lengthy restore process, would it be reasonable to reinstall 2008R2 into the 
existing C partition while leaving the existing D partition intact? I tried the 
process on a test server and the old 2003R2 drive D partition worked fine under 
2008R2. I had to recreate the shares and name spaces, but the NTFS file rights 
within the shares were retained. Seems like a great way to avoid a 10+ hour 
tape restore.

Is there any reason why this approach isn't a good idea?


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RE: Windows Mobile 7

2011-03-08 Thread Guyer, Don
Is that an Android thing, or just specific to that particular phone?

 

Just curious.

 

Don Guyer

Windows Systems Engineer

Datasafe Platform

Enterprise Technology Group

Fiserv

don.gu...@fiserv.com

Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673

Fax: 610-293-4499

www.fiserv.com http://www.fiserv.com/ 

 

From: sms adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 1:26 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows Mobile 7

 

They render, but wrongly. (Never had the problem with my ipod Touch)
Many do not scale, text goes off the right side of the page, and you
can't pinch the screen to get it to scale.  Many. M.cnet.com is one off
the top of my head.

My son in law's Android doesn't have folders in their browser either, so
maybe the ipod touch spoiled me, but with over 100 links/favorites,
scrolling thaata list repeatedly blows.

If this thing wasn't free (work) 

Thx all for the suggestions.

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:40 AM, KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.org wrote:

I second that... I've not ran into any site that does not work for me. 

 

From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:28 AM


To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Windows Mobile 7

 

The feedback I've heard on IE in WP7 has been overwhelmingly positive,
and I haven't run into many rendering issues with the sites I visit on
my WP7 device. But to each his own.  :-)

 

You might try something like this:

 

http://kiapps.net/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=6:surfcub
ecatid=1:appsbyresponseItemid=2

 

I think it's based on IE, so I don't know if it will solve the rendering
issues you're seeing. But it adds some other features, and I read
somewhere that it manages favorites differently.

 

 

John Hornbuckle

MIS Department

Taylor County School District

www.taylor.k12.fl.us

 

 

 

From: sms adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 4:20 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Windows Mobile 7

 

Does anyone know of an alternative browser available for the Win Mobile
7 phones.
IE is horrible. No folders for favorites, does not show many sites
properly, etc.

Thx in advance

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Re: Windows Mobile 7

2011-03-08 Thread sms adm
It's how the favorites work on his Android phone and my Win 7 mobile.

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Guyer, Don don.gu...@fiserv.com wrote:

 Is that an Android thing, or just specific to that particular phone?



 Just curious.



 *Don Guyer*

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 *From:* sms adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, March 08, 2011 1:26 PM

 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Windows Mobile 7



 They render, but wrongly. (Never had the problem with my ipod Touch)
 Many do not scale, text goes off the right side of the page, and you can't
 pinch the screen to get it to scale.  Many. M.cnet.com is one off the top
 of my head.

 My son in law's Android doesn't have folders in their browser either, so
 maybe the ipod touch spoiled me, but with over 100 links/favorites,
 scrolling thaata list repeatedly blows.

 If this thing wasn't free (work) 

 Thx all for the suggestions.

 On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:40 AM, KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.org wrote:

 I second that… I’ve not ran into any site that does not work for me.



 *From:* John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:28 AM


 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues

 *Subject:* RE: Windows Mobile 7



 The feedback I’ve heard on IE in WP7 has been overwhelmingly positive, and
 I haven’t run into many rendering issues with the sites I visit on my WP7
 device. But to each his own.  :-)



 You might try something like this:




 http://kiapps.net/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=6:surfcubecatid=1:appsbyresponseItemid=2



 I think it’s based on IE, so I don’t know if it will solve the rendering
 issues you’re seeing. But it adds some other features, and I read somewhere
 that it manages favorites differently.





 John Hornbuckle

 MIS Department

 Taylor County School District

 www.taylor.k12.fl.us







 *From:* sms adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, March 07, 2011 4:20 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* OT: Windows Mobile 7



 Does anyone know of an alternative browser available for the Win Mobile 7
 phones.
 IE is horrible. No folders for favorites, does not show many sites
 properly, etc.

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RE: Autodiscover + outlook offline address-book + exchange 2010 + cert

2011-03-08 Thread Steven Alfano
This is a pretty good article that covers most of the basics
http://www.msexchange.org/articles_tutorials/exchange-server-2010/management-administration/exchange-autodiscover.html
  
http://www.msexchange.org/articles_tutorials/exchange-server-2010/management-administration/exchange-autodiscover-part2.html

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http://www.digicert.com/ssl-support/exchange-2010-san-names.htm
I saw see it says, I need 
autodiscover.yourdomain.comhttp://autodiscover.yourdomain.com

Do I need to use When using the auto-discover service, include an entry for 
auto-discover. Auto-discover with Exchange automatically uses auto 
discover.yourdomain.comhttp://discover.yourdomain.com  or would simply just 
having mail.your-domain.comhttp://mail.your-domain.com be enough.
Also does outlook offline address-book use auto discover. If auto discover cert 
doe not exist or the cname, does it cause a problem?

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RE: Windows Mobile 7

2011-03-08 Thread Guyer, Don
That would suck for my huge links list. But, a quick Google showed that
there's an Android app for that.

 

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www.fiserv.com http://www.fiserv.com/ 

 

From: sms adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:00 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows Mobile 7

 

It's how the favorites work on his Android phone and my Win 7 mobile.

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Guyer, Don don.gu...@fiserv.com wrote:

Is that an Android thing, or just specific to that particular phone?

 

Just curious.

 

Don Guyer

Windows Systems Engineer

Datasafe Platform

Enterprise Technology Group

Fiserv

don.gu...@fiserv.com

Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673

Fax: 610-293-4499

www.fiserv.com http://www.fiserv.com/ 

 

From: sms adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 1:26 PM


To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows Mobile 7

 

They render, but wrongly. (Never had the problem with my ipod Touch)
Many do not scale, text goes off the right side of the page, and you
can't pinch the screen to get it to scale.  Many. M.cnet.com is one off
the top of my head.

My son in law's Android doesn't have folders in their browser either, so
maybe the ipod touch spoiled me, but with over 100 links/favorites,
scrolling thaata list repeatedly blows.

If this thing wasn't free (work) 

Thx all for the suggestions.

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:40 AM, KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.org wrote:

I second that... I've not ran into any site that does not work for me. 

 

From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:28 AM


To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Windows Mobile 7

 

The feedback I've heard on IE in WP7 has been overwhelmingly positive,
and I haven't run into many rendering issues with the sites I visit on
my WP7 device. But to each his own.  :-)

 

You might try something like this:

 

http://kiapps.net/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=6:surfcub
ecatid=1:appsbyresponseItemid=2

 

I think it's based on IE, so I don't know if it will solve the rendering
issues you're seeing. But it adds some other features, and I read
somewhere that it manages favorites differently.

 

 

John Hornbuckle

MIS Department

Taylor County School District

www.taylor.k12.fl.us

 

 

 

From: sms adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 4:20 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Windows Mobile 7

 

Does anyone know of an alternative browser available for the Win Mobile
7 phones.
IE is horrible. No folders for favorites, does not show many sites
properly, etc.

Thx in advance

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Re: Windows Mobile 7

2011-03-08 Thread sms adm
That's my son in law's phone :)
Win 7 Mobile does not have one that seems to have that feature.
Thinking about workarounds. Read about a few since posting this AM.
I'll test them out and post back later this week.

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 That would suck for my huge links list. But, a quick Google showed that
 there’s an “Android app for that”.



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 *From:* sms adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:00 PM

 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Windows Mobile 7



 It's how the favorites work on his Android phone and my Win 7 mobile.

 On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Guyer, Don don.gu...@fiserv.com wrote:

 Is that an Android thing, or just specific to that particular phone?



 Just curious.



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 don.gu...@fiserv.com

 Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673

 Fax: 610-293-4499

 www.fiserv.com



 *From:* sms adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, March 08, 2011 1:26 PM


 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Windows Mobile 7



 They render, but wrongly. (Never had the problem with my ipod Touch)
 Many do not scale, text goes off the right side of the page, and you can't
 pinch the screen to get it to scale.  Many. M.cnet.com is one off the top
 of my head.

 My son in law's Android doesn't have folders in their browser either, so
 maybe the ipod touch spoiled me, but with over 100 links/favorites,
 scrolling thaata list repeatedly blows.

 If this thing wasn't free (work) 

 Thx all for the suggestions.

 On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:40 AM, KevinM kev...@wlkmmas.org wrote:

 I second that… I’ve not ran into any site that does not work for me.



 *From:* John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:28 AM


 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues

 *Subject:* RE: Windows Mobile 7



 The feedback I’ve heard on IE in WP7 has been overwhelmingly positive, and
 I haven’t run into many rendering issues with the sites I visit on my WP7
 device. But to each his own.  :-)



 You might try something like this:




 http://kiapps.net/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=6:surfcubecatid=1:appsbyresponseItemid=2



 I think it’s based on IE, so I don’t know if it will solve the rendering
 issues you’re seeing. But it adds some other features, and I read somewhere
 that it manages favorites differently.





 John Hornbuckle

 MIS Department

 Taylor County School District

 www.taylor.k12.fl.us







 *From:* sms adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, March 07, 2011 4:20 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* OT: Windows Mobile 7



 Does anyone know of an alternative browser available for the Win Mobile 7
 phones.
 IE is horrible. No folders for favorites, does not show many sites
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RE: Windows Mobile 7

2011-03-08 Thread John Hornbuckle
I just tried m.cnet.com on my LG Quantum, and can't reproduce the problem. The 
pages looked correct. I scrolled through a few pages, tried a couple of 
articles. All was well.

I'm stumped.


John




From: sms adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 1:26 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows Mobile 7

They render, but wrongly. (Never had the problem with my ipod Touch)
Many do not scale, text goes off the right side of the page, and you can't 
pinch the screen to get it to scale.  Many. M.cnet.comhttp://M.cnet.com is 
one off the top of my head.

My son in law's Android doesn't have folders in their browser either, so maybe 
the ipod touch spoiled me, but with over 100 links/favorites, scrolling thaata 
list repeatedly blows.

If this thing wasn't free (work) 

Thx all for the suggestions.

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Re: Windows Mobile 7

2011-03-08 Thread sms adm
I have an HTC Surround. Have to scroll  the equivalent of one full size
screen to the right to read any page.

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:09 PM, John Hornbuckle 
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:

 I just tried m.cnet.com on my LG Quantum, and can’t reproduce the problem.
 The pages looked correct. I scrolled through a few pages, tried a couple of
 articles. All was well.



 I’m stumped.





 John









 *From:* sms adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, March 08, 2011 1:26 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Windows Mobile 7



 They render, but wrongly. (Never had the problem with my ipod Touch)
 Many do not scale, text goes off the right side of the page, and you can't
 pinch the screen to get it to scale.  Many. M.cnet.com is one off the top
 of my head.

 My son in law's Android doesn't have folders in their browser either, so
 maybe the ipod touch spoiled me, but with over 100 links/favorites,
 scrolling thaata list repeatedly blows.

 If this thing wasn't free (work) 

 Thx all for the suggestions.

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RE: Windows Mobile 7

2011-03-08 Thread John Hornbuckle
Does that happen in landscape, portrait, or both?



From: sms adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:13 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows Mobile 7

I have an HTC Surround. Have to scroll  the equivalent of one full size screen 
to the right to read any page.
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:09 PM, John Hornbuckle 
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us 
wrote:
I just tried m.cnet.comhttp://m.cnet.com on my LG Quantum, and can't 
reproduce the problem. The pages looked correct. I scrolled through a few 
pages, tried a couple of articles. All was well.

I'm stumped.


John




From: sms adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.commailto:sms...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 1:26 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows Mobile 7

They render, but wrongly. (Never had the problem with my ipod Touch)
Many do not scale, text goes off the right side of the page, and you can't 
pinch the screen to get it to scale.  Many. M.cnet.comhttp://M.cnet.com is 
one off the top of my head.

My son in law's Android doesn't have folders in their browser either, so maybe 
the ipod touch spoiled me, but with over 100 links/favorites, scrolling thaata 
list repeatedly blows.

If this thing wasn't free (work) 

Thx all for the suggestions.

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Re: Windows Mobile 7

2011-03-08 Thread sms adm
Both, unfortunately.
I wouldn't care if I could pinch the screen to an easy to read size, but
that doesn't work.

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:16 PM, John Hornbuckle 
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:

 Does that happen in landscape, portrait, or both?







 *From:* sms adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:13 PM

 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Windows Mobile 7



 I have an HTC Surround. Have to scroll  the equivalent of one full size
 screen to the right to read any page.

 On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:09 PM, John Hornbuckle 
 john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:

 I just tried m.cnet.com on my LG Quantum, and can’t reproduce the problem.
 The pages looked correct. I scrolled through a few pages, tried a couple of
 articles. All was well.



 I’m stumped.





 John









 *From:* sms adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, March 08, 2011 1:26 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Windows Mobile 7



 They render, but wrongly. (Never had the problem with my ipod Touch)
 Many do not scale, text goes off the right side of the page, and you can't
 pinch the screen to get it to scale.  Many. M.cnet.com is one off the top
 of my head.

 My son in law's Android doesn't have folders in their browser either, so
 maybe the ipod touch spoiled me, but with over 100 links/favorites,
 scrolling thaata list repeatedly blows.

 If this thing wasn't free (work) 

 Thx all for the suggestions.

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RE: Windows Mobile 7

2011-03-08 Thread John Hornbuckle
I can't imagine a defect with a phone that would cause this, but that seems 
like a possibility. It seems like either something wrong with your phone, or 
something wrong with HTC Surround phones in general. Maybe try some forums 
where other owners of that model hang out, and see if they're experiencing the 
same thing?



From: sms adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:23 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows Mobile 7

Both, unfortunately.
I wouldn't care if I could pinch the screen to an easy to read size, but that 
doesn't work.
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:16 PM, John Hornbuckle 
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us 
wrote:
Does that happen in landscape, portrait, or both?



From: sms adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.commailto:sms...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:13 PM

To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows Mobile 7

I have an HTC Surround. Have to scroll  the equivalent of one full size screen 
to the right to read any page.
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:09 PM, John Hornbuckle 
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us 
wrote:
I just tried m.cnet.comhttp://m.cnet.com on my LG Quantum, and can't 
reproduce the problem. The pages looked correct. I scrolled through a few 
pages, tried a couple of articles. All was well.

I'm stumped.


John




From: sms adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.commailto:sms...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 1:26 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows Mobile 7

They render, but wrongly. (Never had the problem with my ipod Touch)
Many do not scale, text goes off the right side of the page, and you can't 
pinch the screen to get it to scale.  Many. M.cnet.comhttp://M.cnet.com is 
one off the top of my head.

My son in law's Android doesn't have folders in their browser either, so maybe 
the ipod touch spoiled me, but with over 100 links/favorites, scrolling thaata 
list repeatedly blows.

If this thing wasn't free (work) 

Thx all for the suggestions.

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RE: Windows Mobile 7

2011-03-08 Thread Joe Pochedley
On a Samsung Focus, I have to scroll about 1/3 screen in portrait mode to view 
the entire width of the pages; but in landscape mode I don't have to scroll 
left or right at all.  (@ m.cnet.com)

Joe Pochedley
Network  Telecommunications Manager
Fives North American Combustion, Inc.
v: +1 216.206.5505
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Subject: Re: Windows Mobile 7

Both, unfortunately.
I wouldn't care if I could pinch the screen to an easy to read size, but that 
doesn't work.
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wrote:
Does that happen in landscape, portrait, or both?



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I have an HTC Surround. Have to scroll  the equivalent of one full size screen 
to the right to read any page.
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:09 PM, John Hornbuckle 
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wrote:
I just tried m.cnet.comhttp://m.cnet.com on my LG Quantum, and can't 
reproduce the problem. The pages looked correct. I scrolled through a few 
pages, tried a couple of articles. All was well.

I'm stumped.


John




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They render, but wrongly. (Never had the problem with my ipod Touch)
Many do not scale, text goes off the right side of the page, and you can't 
pinch the screen to get it to scale.  Many. M.cnet.comhttp://M.cnet.com is 
one off the top of my head.

My son in law's Android doesn't have folders in their browser either, so maybe 
the ipod touch spoiled me, but with over 100 links/favorites, scrolling thaata 
list repeatedly blows.

If this thing wasn't free (work) 

Thx all for the suggestions.

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Re: Windows Mobile 7

2011-03-08 Thread sms adm
Scary. 3 phones, 3 different rendering views.

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Joe Pochedley
joe.poched...@fivesgroup.comwrote:

 On a Samsung Focus, I have to scroll about 1/3 screen in portrait mode to
 view the entire width of the pages; but in landscape mode I don’t have to
 scroll left or right at all.  (@ m.cnet.com)



 Joe Pochedley

 Network  Telecommunications Manager

 Fives North American Combustion, Inc.

 v: +1 216.206.5505

 f: +1 216.641.7852



 *From:* sms adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:23 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Windows Mobile 7



 Both, unfortunately.
 I wouldn't care if I could pinch the screen to an easy to read size, but
 that doesn't work.

 On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:16 PM, John Hornbuckle 
 john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:

 Does that happen in landscape, portrait, or both?







 *From:* sms adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:13 PM


 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Windows Mobile 7



 I have an HTC Surround. Have to scroll  the equivalent of one full size
 screen to the right to read any page.

 On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:09 PM, John Hornbuckle 
 john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:

 I just tried m.cnet.com on my LG Quantum, and can’t reproduce the problem.
 The pages looked correct. I scrolled through a few pages, tried a couple of
 articles. All was well.



 I’m stumped.





 John









 *From:* sms adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, March 08, 2011 1:26 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Windows Mobile 7



 They render, but wrongly. (Never had the problem with my ipod Touch)
 Many do not scale, text goes off the right side of the page, and you can't
 pinch the screen to get it to scale.  Many. M.cnet.com is one off the top
 of my head.

 My son in law's Android doesn't have folders in their browser either, so
 maybe the ipod touch spoiled me, but with over 100 links/favorites,
 scrolling thaata list repeatedly blows.

 If this thing wasn't free (work) 

 Thx all for the suggestions.

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RE: Windows Mobile 7

2011-03-08 Thread John Hornbuckle
Definitely scary, considering the consistency that was hoped for (and promised) 
with WP7.


John




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Scary. 3 phones, 3 different rendering views.
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Joe Pochedley 
joe.poched...@fivesgroup.commailto:joe.poched...@fivesgroup.com wrote:
On a Samsung Focus, I have to scroll about 1/3 screen in portrait mode to view 
the entire width of the pages; but in landscape mode I don't have to scroll 
left or right at all.  (@ m.cnet.comhttp://m.cnet.com)

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Re: Windows Mobile 7

2011-03-08 Thread Jonathan Link
And I think it really explains this...
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-03-07/microsoft-is-said-to-pay-nokia-more-than-1-billion-in-deal.html



On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:39 PM, John Hornbuckle 
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:

  Definitely scary, considering the consistency that was hoped for (and
 promised) with WP7.





 John









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 *Sent:* Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:38 PM

 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Windows Mobile 7



 Scary. 3 phones, 3 different rendering views.

 On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Joe Pochedley 
 joe.poched...@fivesgroup.com wrote:

 On a Samsung Focus, I have to scroll about 1/3 screen in portrait mode to
 view the entire width of the pages; but in landscape mode I don’t have to
 scroll left or right at all.  (@ m.cnet.com)

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RE: Windows Mobile 7

2011-03-08 Thread Don Andrews
Hmm, part of the reason most of the MDM folks don't seem to consider WM7 to be 
enterprise ready?


From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 12:40 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows Mobile 7

Definitely scary, considering the consistency that was hoped for (and promised) 
with WP7.


John




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Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows Mobile 7

Scary. 3 phones, 3 different rendering views.
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Joe Pochedley 
joe.poched...@fivesgroup.commailto:joe.poched...@fivesgroup.com wrote:
On a Samsung Focus, I have to scroll about 1/3 screen in portrait mode to view 
the entire width of the pages; but in landscape mode I don't have to scroll 
left or right at all.  (@ m.cnet.comhttp://m.cnet.com)

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RE: Windows Mobile 7

2011-03-08 Thread Matt Moore
I concur but then I don't hang out surf the web on the phone either.  Quick
look for something when away from the desk but that's it.  For email it's
the bomb!

M

 

From: Joe Pochedley [mailto:joe.poched...@fivesgroup.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 12:28 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows Mobile 7

 

On a Samsung Focus, I have to scroll about 1/3 screen in portrait mode to
view the entire width of the pages; but in landscape mode I don't have to
scroll left or right at all.  (@ m.cnet.com) 

 

Joe Pochedley

Network  Telecommunications Manager

Fives North American Combustion, Inc.

v: +1 216.206.5505

f: +1 216.641.7852

 

From: sms adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:23 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows Mobile 7

 

Both, unfortunately.
I wouldn't care if I could pinch the screen to an easy to read size, but
that doesn't work.

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:16 PM, John Hornbuckle
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:

Does that happen in landscape, portrait, or both?

 

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:13 PM


To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows Mobile 7

 

I have an HTC Surround. Have to scroll  the equivalent of one full size
screen to the right to read any page. 

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:09 PM, John Hornbuckle
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:

I just tried m.cnet.com on my LG Quantum, and can't reproduce the problem.
The pages looked correct. I scrolled through a few pages, tried a couple of
articles. All was well.

 

I'm stumped.

 

 

John

 

 

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 1:26 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows Mobile 7

 

They render, but wrongly. (Never had the problem with my ipod Touch)
Many do not scale, text goes off the right side of the page, and you can't
pinch the screen to get it to scale.  Many. M.cnet.com is one off the top of
my head.

My son in law's Android doesn't have folders in their browser either, so
maybe the ipod touch spoiled me, but with over 100 links/favorites,
scrolling thaata list repeatedly blows.

If this thing wasn't free (work) 

Thx all for the suggestions.

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RE: Windows Mobile 7

2011-03-08 Thread John Hornbuckle
I have no complaints about mine, though. Its integration with Exchange works 
flawlessly for me.


John

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Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 4:16 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
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Hmm, part of the reason most of the MDM folks don't seem to consider WM7 to be 
enterprise ready?


From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 12:40 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows Mobile 7

Definitely scary, considering the consistency that was hoped for (and promised) 
with WP7.


John


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Re: Windows Mobile 7

2011-03-08 Thread Steve Ens
Android is good too, with the Touchdown, it works well, with the native
activesync, not as good.

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:32 PM, John Hornbuckle 
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:

 I have no complaints about mine, though. Its integration with Exchange
 works flawlessly for me.





 John



 *From:* Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, March 08, 2011 4:16 PM

 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Windows Mobile 7



 Hmm, part of the reason most of the MDM folks don’t seem to consider WM7 to
 be enterprise ready?


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 *Sent:* Tuesday, March 08, 2011 12:40 PM

 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Windows Mobile 7



 Definitely scary, considering the consistency that was hoped for (and
 promised) with WP7.





 John



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RE: Windows Mobile 7

2011-03-08 Thread Matt Moore
They do quite a bit of partnering with them as it is. 

 As far as Enterprise.  For work stuff hands down the best phone on the
market IMO.  Bear in mind none of them are a tablet or laptop but what they
do, they're much faster than the other offerings and are you ready for
this  The phone part works!  I do work with a bunch of phone geeks;
Iphones, droids, androids, and BB's, they're represented across the board
and my Focus is visibly faster than any of them the boys have come up with.
Web rendering, searches, text and phone.  If you want a screen you can look
at there is no comparison.  Did I mention the phone works?

 

M

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 12:41 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows Mobile 7

 

And I think it really explains this...

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-03-07/microsoft-is-said-to-pay-nokia-m
ore-than-1-billion-in-deal.html



 

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:39 PM, John Hornbuckle
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:

Definitely scary, considering the consistency that was hoped for (and
promised) with WP7.

 

 

John

 

 

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:38 PM 


To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows Mobile 7

 

Scary. 3 phones, 3 different rendering views.

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Joe Pochedley joe.poched...@fivesgroup.com
wrote:

On a Samsung Focus, I have to scroll about 1/3 screen in portrait mode to
view the entire width of the pages; but in landscape mode I don't have to
scroll left or right at all.  (@ m.cnet.com http://m.cnet.com/ ) 

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Re: Database sizing for Exchange 2010 migration

2011-03-08 Thread Missy Koslosky
Have you looked at your single instance storage ratio in perfmon? It will 
either help settle your fears or scare you. :)

On Mar 1, 2011, at 11:06 AM, Damien Solodow 
damien.solo...@harrison.edumailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu wrote:

The current database layout makes me cringe every time I look at it. Only two 
mailbox databases, and it’s about an 80/20 split of users. The “primary” one is 
about 3-4 times the size of the other, and I’m sure there are lots of huge 
attachments.

DAMIEN SOLODOW
Systems Engineer
317.447.6033 (office)
317.217.6851 (fax)
HARRISON COLLEGE

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 10:59 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database sizing for Exchange 2010 migration

Depends on your content. If you have few databases and lots of large 
attachments, it could grow quite a bit.

I generally use 20% as a planning figure. That being said, most people are also 
increasing mailbox size as part of their move to Exchange 2010, so even if it’s 
quite a bit more, it gets “lost in the wash”.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.comhttp://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 10:41 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Database sizing for Exchange 2010 migration

We’re getting going on migrating our  Exchange 2003 environment to Exchange 
2010 SP1.
The main thing left in the planning phase is sizing our mailbox server(s).

I’ve found some guidelines on it, and plan to try feeding the Exchange Sizing 
spreadsheet from MS to see what it spits out. Also planning to poke at Exchange 
Profiler to see what it gives me to help feed that data.

The one thing I haven’t seen much on so far is database growth as part of the 
migration. In other words, I know how much space is used by my current mailbox 
stores (and how much is whitespace) but I’m not sure how large that will 
translate to for Exchange 2010 databases. Since the information I’ve seen says 
that SIS is gone, I’d expect it to grow but not sure how to calculate or even 
guesstimate the new space.

Any handy calculators, magic numbers or the like?

DAMIEN SOLODOW
Systems Engineer
317.447.6033 (office)
317.217.6851 (fax)
HARRISON COLLEGE
500 North Meridian St
Suite 500
Indianapolis, IN 46204-1213
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RE: Database sizing for Exchange 2010 migration

2011-03-08 Thread Damien Solodow
Well one store reads 6.7 and the other 15. I think I may be boned. J

 

DAMIEN SOLODOW

Systems Engineer

317.447.6033 (office)

317.217.6851 (fax)

HARRISON COLLEGE

 

From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:mi...@notsoclever.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 4:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Database sizing for Exchange 2010 migration

 

Have you looked at your single instance storage ratio in perfmon? It
will either help settle your fears or scare you. :)

On Mar 1, 2011, at 11:06 AM, Damien Solodow
damien.solo...@harrison.edu wrote:

The current database layout makes me cringe every time I look at
it. Only two mailbox databases, and it's about an 80/20 split of users.
The primary one is about 3-4 times the size of the other, and I'm sure
there are lots of huge attachments.

 

DAMIEN SOLODOW

Systems Engineer

317.447.6033 (office)

317.217.6851 (fax)

HARRISON COLLEGE

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 10:59 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database sizing for Exchange 2010 migration

 

Depends on your content. If you have few databases and lots of
large attachments, it could grow quite a bit.

 

I generally use 20% as a planning figure. That being said, most
people are also increasing mailbox size as part of their move to
Exchange 2010, so even if it's quite a bit more, it gets lost in the
wash.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 10:41 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Database sizing for Exchange 2010 migration

 

We're getting going on migrating our  Exchange 2003 environment
to Exchange 2010 SP1.

The main thing left in the planning phase is sizing our mailbox
server(s). 

 

I've found some guidelines on it, and plan to try feeding the
Exchange Sizing spreadsheet from MS to see what it spits out. Also
planning to poke at Exchange Profiler to see what it gives me to help
feed that data.

 

The one thing I haven't seen much on so far is database growth
as part of the migration. In other words, I know how much space is used
by my current mailbox stores (and how much is whitespace) but I'm not
sure how large that will translate to for Exchange 2010 databases. Since
the information I've seen says that SIS is gone, I'd expect it to grow
but not sure how to calculate or even guesstimate the new space.

 

Any handy calculators, magic numbers or the like?

 

DAMIEN SOLODOW

Systems Engineer

317.447.6033 (office)

317.217.6851 (fax)

HARRISON COLLEGE

500 North Meridian St

Suite 500

Indianapolis, IN 46204-1213

www.harrison.edu

 

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RE: Upgrading from 2003R2 to 2008R2

2011-03-08 Thread Michael B. Smith
You are aware that 2008 R2 is 64-bit only, right?

That aside, what you suggest is fine. Although, you won't get the benefit of 
aligned volumes and larger default allocation units.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Paul Steele [mailto:paul.ste...@acadiau.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 2:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Upgrading from 2003R2 to 2008R2

One of our summer tasks is upgrading a couple of servers from 2003R2 to 2008R2, 
using existing hardware. The servers are only used for file sharing so the 
upgrade is pretty simple except for one issue. Both servers have close to 1000 
gigs of shared data on drive D (accessed via shares). In order to avoid a 
lengthy restore process, would it be reasonable to reinstall 2008R2 into the 
existing C partition while leaving the existing D partition intact? I tried the 
process on a test server and the old 2003R2 drive D partition worked fine under 
2008R2. I had to recreate the shares and name spaces, but the NTFS file rights 
within the shares were retained. Seems like a great way to avoid a 10+ hour 
tape restore.

Is there any reason why this approach isn't a good idea?


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RE: Upgrading from 2003R2 to 2008R2

2011-03-08 Thread Paul Steele
I figured there would be some NTFS differences and I'll have to look into 
those, but at this point the 2003R2 NTFS version should be sufficient for our 
needs. We're more interested in getting the File Server Resource Manager 
upgraded to allow management from Windows 7 systems. Plus we just want to start 
phasing out our older 2003 systems and move everything to 64-bit...

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: March-08-11 7:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Upgrading from 2003R2 to 2008R2

You are aware that 2008 R2 is 64-bit only, right?

That aside, what you suggest is fine. Although, you won't get the benefit of 
aligned volumes and larger default allocation units.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Paul Steele [mailto:paul.ste...@acadiau.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 2:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Upgrading from 2003R2 to 2008R2

One of our summer tasks is upgrading a couple of servers from 2003R2 to 2008R2, 
using existing hardware. The servers are only used for file sharing so the 
upgrade is pretty simple except for one issue. Both servers have close to 1000 
gigs of shared data on drive D (accessed via shares). In order to avoid a 
lengthy restore process, would it be reasonable to reinstall 2008R2 into the 
existing C partition while leaving the existing D partition intact? I tried the 
process on a test server and the old 2003R2 drive D partition worked fine under 
2008R2. I had to recreate the shares and name spaces, but the NTFS file rights 
within the shares were retained. Seems like a great way to avoid a 10+ hour 
tape restore.

Is there any reason why this approach isn't a good idea?


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Re: Apostrophe in email address - best practice?

2011-03-08 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
I would recommend that you not allow it.  Not because of Exchange, but
because of an unknown issue you may have with some other mail
system/filter.  Quotes of any kind can be particularly difficult because of
how they are used inherently in script-based apps.

I would err on the side of caution and not introduce anything that may
sporadically be problematic.

--
ME2





On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 5:19 PM, xyz x...@minneapolis.edu wrote:

  Greetings,



 We have for example user  John O'Brian.

 From what I read, John.O'br...@company.com is legal per RFC2822 but
 currently we have set john.obr...@company.com

 ...the local-part of the e-mail may use any of these ASCII characters:

 * Uppercase and lowercase letters
 * The digits 0 through 9
 * The characters,! # $ %  ' * + - / =? ^ _ ` { ¦ } ~
 * The character . provided that it is not the first or last character in
 the local-part.

 However, I also read that some email applications may not process ( ' )
 correctly. ( I can deal with that with other SMTP address options if needed)



 (user AD login name is obrianjo, and has that default mailbox alias)

 In 2010 EXCHANGE MANAGEMENT CONSOLE - RECIPIENT CONFIGURATION - MAILBOX -
 John OBrian Properties, we show:

 GENERAL tab = John OBrian

 USER INFORMATION tab - Last Name=OBrian

 USER INFORMATION tab - Name=John OBrian



 At minimum, I would like this to display properly in the campus OAB.

 Would I need to change to O'Brian in all three fields above?



 I could then add John.O'br...@company.com  as another SMTP email address,
 (or would this happen automatically by changing the above fields?)

 This is a new high level administrator so I want to be careful to not mess
 anything up.



 We have done this both ways on our old GROUPWISE system, but what is best
 practice in EXCHANGE?



 Thanks for your help.



 Dana



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RE: Apostrophe in email address - best practice?

2011-03-08 Thread Steve Szabo
I was babysitting a network while the client was in search of a new tech to
do it fulltime. There was one user that had a last name with the apostrophe
as the primary address. She had a lot of problems with e-mail. I created a
primary without the apostrophe and moved the apostrophe name as an alias.
She was furious to lost the apostrophe, but stopped having problems with
outgoing mail. Still had some problems with incoming, but she refused to
send out a notification to all who had her address about using the new one.

 

I'd advise skipping the apostrophe, not so much as your system will have a
problem, but other systems out there may.

 

\\Steve//

 

From: xyz [mailto:x...@minneapolis.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 8:20 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Apostrophe in email address - best practice?

 

Greetings,

 

We have for example user  John O'Brian.

From what I read, John.O'br...@company.com is legal per RFC2822 but
currently we have set john.obr...@company.com

...the local-part of the e-mail may use any of these ASCII characters: 

* Uppercase and lowercase letters 
* The digits 0 through 9 
* The characters,! # $ %  ' * + - / =? ^ _ ` { | } ~ 
* The character . provided that it is not the first or last character in
the local-part.

However, I also read that some email applications may not process ( ' )
correctly. ( I can deal with that with other SMTP address options if needed)

 

(user AD login name is obrianjo, and has that default mailbox alias)

In 2010 EXCHANGE MANAGEMENT CONSOLE - RECIPIENT CONFIGURATION - MAILBOX -
John OBrian Properties, we show:

GENERAL tab = John OBrian

USER INFORMATION tab - Last Name=OBrian

USER INFORMATION tab - Name=John OBrian

 

At minimum, I would like this to display properly in the campus OAB.

Would I need to change to O'Brian in all three fields above?

 

I could then add John.O'br...@company.com  as another SMTP email address,
(or would this happen automatically by changing the above fields?)

This is a new high level administrator so I want to be careful to not mess
anything up.

 

We have done this both ways on our old GROUPWISE system, but what is best
practice in EXCHANGE?

 

Thanks for your help.

 

Dana

 


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Exchange 2010 migration from Exchange 2003 -- routing group connectors need to be added manually

2011-03-08 Thread Stuart Brainerd
In Michael Smith's excellent documentation on the migration from Exchange
2003 to Exchange 2010, there is no specific mention of having to manually
create a bidirectional routing group connector between Exchange 2003 and
2010 servers, however in practice this has been necessary.

Technet describes the command at
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa998574.aspx

Is there some step along the way that I may have missed that would create
this connector automagically?
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa998574.aspx
regards,
Stuart Brainerd

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