RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion
Not sure if this is still the case or not, but when we had our bes server, I could go into my BB browser and hit internal server shares. \\server\files file:///\\server\files for example and I would be able to browse the files and documents that were shared with everyone or domain users access. This made it convenient for us to be able to get documents and things on the fly instead of trying to get the emailed to us or making sure you sync'ed and such. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion
3. Do you use OWA? From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:27 PM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion 1) yes, and notes as well as GAL lookup. WM generally yes but can't say about tasks or notes and I personally prefer the BB's GAL lookup - with a large GAL like ours, this is important. 2) Generally yes, but to be fair, MS office docs MAY be more compatible on the WM devices just due to the same vendor. 3) Security - BES has server initiated outbound connection - WM requires exposing your Exchange environment at least partially to the internet. BB intranet web site access via BES without allowing direct internet access is included. From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:27 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I've started a new thread, because my manager is now asking me to create a proposal document for our Director, in order to recommend the best solution. I have a few specific questions that may or may not have been covered in the last thread. 1) Does the BB, if I have BES installed in my server room, allow sync of contacts/tasks/calendar etc. Also, just to be fair and complete, does the WM device have this capability? 2) Does the BB have the same ability to open the same types of attachments as the WM device? 3) Are there any other functionalities that one device has over the other, from an end-user perspective, that would be something I need to know about? I'm sorry if the last question is a bit vague, but this is really my first endeavor in these waters, and I'd just like to have as many real world experiences as possible to draw from to make this decision. I do understand that it's not difficult to support both, but I just need to make sure the endusers are going to be satisfied with the chosen solution. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion
Yes. Lots internally and at times externally - through a reverse proxy with 2 factor authentication or VPN. - Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Fri Dec 28 06:50:30 2007 Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion 3. Do you use OWA? From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:27 PM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion 1) yes, and notes as well as GAL lookup. WM generally yes but can’t say about tasks or notes and I personally prefer the BB’s GAL lookup – with a large GAL like ours, this is important. 2) Generally yes, but to be fair, MS office docs MAY be more compatible on the WM devices just due to the same vendor. 3) Security – BES has server initiated outbound connection – WM requires exposing your Exchange environment at least partially to the internet. BB intranet web site access via BES without allowing direct internet access is included. From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:27 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I’ve started a new thread, because my manager is now asking me to create a proposal document for our Director, in order to recommend the “best” solution. I have a few specific questions that may or may not have been covered in the last thread. 1) Does the BB, if I have BES installed in my server room, allow sync of contacts/tasks/calendar etc. Also, just to be fair and complete, does the WM device have this capability? 2) Does the BB have the same ability to open the same types of attachments as the WM device? 3) Are there any other functionalities that one device has over the other, from an end-user perspective, that would be something I need to know about? I’m sorry if the last question is a bit vague, but this is really my first endeavor in these waters, and I’d just like to have as many real world experiences as possible to draw from to make this decision. I do understand that it’s not difficult to support both, but I just need to make sure the endusers are going to be satisfied with the chosen solution. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion
So you don't set you WM device to do the same? We do. -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Yes. Lots internally and at times externally - through a reverse proxy with 2 factor authentication or VPN. - Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Fri Dec 28 06:50:30 2007 Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion 3. Do you use OWA? From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:27 PM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion 1) yes, and notes as well as GAL lookup. WM generally yes but can't say about tasks or notes and I personally prefer the BB's GAL lookup - with a large GAL like ours, this is important. 2) Generally yes, but to be fair, MS office docs MAY be more compatible on the WM devices just due to the same vendor. 3) Security - BES has server initiated outbound connection - WM requires exposing your Exchange environment at least partially to the internet. BB intranet web site access via BES without allowing direct internet access is included. From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:27 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I've started a new thread, because my manager is now asking me to create a proposal document for our Director, in order to recommend the best solution. I have a few specific questions that may or may not have been covered in the last thread. 1) Does the BB, if I have BES installed in my server room, allow sync of contacts/tasks/calendar etc. Also, just to be fair and complete, does the WM device have this capability? 2) Does the BB have the same ability to open the same types of attachments as the WM device? 3) Are there any other functionalities that one device has over the other, from an end-user perspective, that would be something I need to know about? I'm sorry if the last question is a bit vague, but this is really my first endeavor in these waters, and I'd just like to have as many real world experiences as possible to draw from to make this decision. I do understand that it's not difficult to support both, but I just need to make sure the endusers are going to be satisfied with the chosen solution. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion
Interesting discussion. The old Coke vs. Pepsi, Ford vs. Chevy question for the techs. We recently deployed BlackBerry and it been a major PITA for a number of users. Bad provisioning by the carrier, bad devices, lack of knowledge. My trouble calls for BB outnumber my normal calls 2 to 1 and I only have 700 BB users. (28,000 Exchange seats). I think if you gave someone a device that has never before used a BB then they would get the WM device faster. BB has far more features for the power emailer, but not everyone is going to use those features. Same with some of the advanced security features in BB. You do pay a premium for that manageability and that is typically why the BB's only go to the Executives, Sr. managers, sales weasels, 24/7 support folks etc. Where BB blows away WM at the moment is manageability of the device. The BB essentially becomes another managed node on my network that I can do what I want with. If you are interested in better management around WM I would suggest that you take a look at Microsoft System Center Mobile Device Manger 2008 (pauses to catch breath) http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/mobiledevicemanager/default.mspx From: Tom McCarty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:36 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Nope. Well the V folks have something like it. From: Joe Fox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:49 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I thought the Curve was an ATT exclusivealthough I have been known to be wrong. Joe Fox Systems Administrator The McGuire Group Office# (716) 826-2010 ext: 1172 Mobile# (716) 846-9308 The materials in this e-mail are private and may contain Protected Health Information. If you are not the intended recipient be advised that any unauthorized use, disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender via telephone at 716-829-1978 or by return e-mail. From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Really? - even the blackberry.com site does not show a Verizon Curve. From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:15 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Talk to your Verizon rep, I don't see them listed but I know they have them because we have users who have them... On Dec 27, 2007 10:11 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Well, unfortunately, the Curve is not listed on Verizon's website for BB devices. Joe Heaton From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:10 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion You're missing the curve off of your list which has a full qwerty keyboard. The 8830 would be my other choice. I don't like the pearl because it's not full qwerty... On Dec 27, 2007 10:06 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Any BB model that people would recommend over others? Our provider lists the following on their site: 7130e Pearl 8130 8703e 8830 World Edition Thanks, Joe Heaton From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:34 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion 1. Yes 2. Yes, excedt BB doesn't do so hot on PDF's yet 3. BB User proof, WM not so much On Dec 27, 2007 9:27 AM, exchangelist
RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion
We have OWA available, but I don’t think it’s widely used. Joe Heaton From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 5:51 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion 3. Do you use OWA? _ From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:27 PM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion 1) yes, and notes as well as GAL lookup. WM generally yes but can’t say about tasks or notes and I personally prefer the BB’s GAL lookup – with a large GAL like ours, this is important. 2) Generally yes, but to be fair, MS office docs MAY be more compatible on the WM devices just due to the same vendor. 3) Security – BES has server initiated outbound connection – WM requires exposing your Exchange environment at least partially to the internet. BB intranet web site access via BES without allowing direct internet access is included. _ From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:27 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I’ve started a new thread, because my manager is now asking me to create a proposal document for our Director, in order to recommend the “best” solution. I have a few specific questions that may or may not have been covered in the last thread. 1) Does the BB, if I have BES installed in my server room, allow sync of contacts/tasks/calendar etc. Also, just to be fair and complete, does the WM device have this capability? 2) Does the BB have the same ability to open the same types of attachments as the WM device? 3) Are there any other functionalities that one device has over the other, from an end-user perspective, that would be something I need to know about? I’m sorry if the last question is a bit vague, but this is really my first endeavor in these waters, and I’d just like to have as many real world experiences as possible to draw from to make this decision. I do understand that it’s not difficult to support both, but I just need to make sure the endusers are going to be satisfied with the chosen solution. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion
I definitely will. So, as I understand it, the recommended devices are: WM – Treo 700wx BB – Curve (if available), and 8830 if the Curve is not available. I’ve spoken with my manager, and she agrees with me that we should pursue getting one of each device, for me to trial, so I may end up walking around with 3 phones on my belt soon…lol. Joe Heaton From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Cook – well, there ya go Joe – test out your rep ;) _ From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 12:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I saw that too, but we have a couple here... On Dec 27, 2007 10:45 AM, Don Andrews HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really? – even the HYPERLINK http://blackberry.com/; \nblackberry.com site does not show a Verizon Curve. _ From: HYPERLINK mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:HYPERLINK mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:15 AM To: HYPERLINK mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Talk to your Verizon rep, I don't see them listed but I know they have them because we have users who have them... On Dec 27, 2007 10:11 AM, HYPERLINK mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, unfortunately, the Curve is not listed on Verizon's website for BB devices. Joe Heaton From: HYPERLINK mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:HYPERLINK mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com; \n [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:10 AM To: HYPERLINK mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion You're missing the curve off of your list which has a full qwerty keyboard. The 8830 would be my other choice. I don't like the pearl because it's not full qwerty... On Dec 27, 2007 10:06 AM, HYPERLINK mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any BB model that people would recommend over others? Our provider lists the following on their site: 7130e Pearl 8130 8703e 8830 World Edition Thanks, Joe Heaton From: HYPERLINK mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:HYPERLINK mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com; \n [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:34 AM To: HYPERLINK mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion 1. Yes 2. Yes, excedt BB doesn't do so hot on PDF's yet 3. BB User proof, WM not so much On Dec 27, 2007 9:27 AM, HYPERLINK mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've started a new thread, because my manager is now asking me to create a proposal document for our Director, in order to recommend the best solution. I have a few specific questions that may or may not have been covered in the last thread. 1) Does the BB, if I have BES installed in my server room, allow sync of contacts/tasks/calendar etc. Also, just to be fair and complete, does the WM device have this capability? 2) Does the BB have the same ability to open the same types of attachments as the WM device? 3) Are there any other functionalities that one device has over the other, from an end-user perspective, that would be something I need to know about? I'm sorry if the last question is a bit vague, but this is really my first endeavor in these waters, and I'd just like to have as many real world experiences as possible to draw from to make this decision. I do understand that it's not difficult to support both, but I just need to make sure the endusers are going to be satisfied with the chosen solution. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM
RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion
Apparently our WM POC was setup by MS - who feels it is unnecessary and that ISA is sufficient. (wasn't my choice or responsibility) -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 6:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion So you don't set you WM device to do the same? We do. -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Yes. Lots internally and at times externally - through a reverse proxy with 2 factor authentication or VPN. - Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Fri Dec 28 06:50:30 2007 Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion 3. Do you use OWA? From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:27 PM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion 1) yes, and notes as well as GAL lookup. WM generally yes but can't say about tasks or notes and I personally prefer the BB's GAL lookup - with a large GAL like ours, this is important. 2) Generally yes, but to be fair, MS office docs MAY be more compatible on the WM devices just due to the same vendor. 3) Security - BES has server initiated outbound connection - WM requires exposing your Exchange environment at least partially to the internet. BB intranet web site access via BES without allowing direct internet access is included. From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:27 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I've started a new thread, because my manager is now asking me to create a proposal document for our Director, in order to recommend the best solution. I have a few specific questions that may or may not have been covered in the last thread. 1) Does the BB, if I have BES installed in my server room, allow sync of contacts/tasks/calendar etc. Also, just to be fair and complete, does the WM device have this capability? 2) Does the BB have the same ability to open the same types of attachments as the WM device? 3) Are there any other functionalities that one device has over the other, from an end-user perspective, that would be something I need to know about? I'm sorry if the last question is a bit vague, but this is really my first endeavor in these waters, and I'd just like to have as many real world experiences as possible to draw from to make this decision. I do understand that it's not difficult to support both, but I just need to make sure the endusers are going to be satisfied with the chosen solution. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion
Security it like cloths. Some people think that dresses should be at the ankles, the knees, or just below the panty line. All lengths work to cover up a minimum required amount of skin, and you will get plenty of people who argue the benefits of each length, and claim that another length is nuts. Personally I am happy with SSL for OWA, and Windows Mobile and feel that is more than enough. I am sure that others would tell me that I need a windows VPN. Someone else might take it further and tell me that I need a Cisco VPN, or take it another step further and tell me that I need smart card authentication for my VPN. ~Kevinm WLKMMAS Formerly of Microsoft, now powered by 3Sharp, Always WLKMMAS -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:05 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Apparently our WM POC was setup by MS - who feels it is unnecessary and that ISA is sufficient. (wasn't my choice or responsibility) -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 6:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion So you don't set you WM device to do the same? We do. -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:59 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Yes. Lots internally and at times externally - through a reverse proxy with 2 factor authentication or VPN. - Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Fri Dec 28 06:50:30 2007 Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion 3. Do you use OWA? From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:27 PM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion 1) yes, and notes as well as GAL lookup. WM generally yes but can't say about tasks or notes and I personally prefer the BB's GAL lookup - with a large GAL like ours, this is important. 2) Generally yes, but to be fair, MS office docs MAY be more compatible on the WM devices just due to the same vendor. 3) Security - BES has server initiated outbound connection - WM requires exposing your Exchange environment at least partially to the internet. BB intranet web site access via BES without allowing direct internet access is included. From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:27 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I've started a new thread, because my manager is now asking me to create a proposal document for our Director, in order to recommend the best solution. I have a few specific questions that may or may not have been covered in the last thread. 1) Does the BB, if I have BES installed in my server room, allow sync of contacts/tasks/calendar etc. Also, just to be fair and complete, does the WM device have this capability? 2) Does the BB have the same ability to open the same types of attachments as the WM device? 3) Are there any other functionalities that one device has over the other, from an end-user perspective, that would be something I need to know about? I'm sorry if the last question is a bit vague, but this is really my first endeavor in these waters, and I'd just like to have as many real world experiences as possible to draw from to make this decision. I do understand that it's not difficult to support both, but I just need to make sure the endusers are going to be satisfied with the chosen solution. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion
Definetly check out the new VX6800. I have a few friends who picked one up and its hands down better than the 6700. I am very tempted to drop my BB and go back to WM. Miss the touchscreen and HTML Email. I will say that the email functionality of the BB is much better than the WM. Greg From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I definitely will. So, as I understand it, the recommended devices are: WM - Treo 700wx BB - Curve (if available), and 8830 if the Curve is not available. I've spoken with my manager, and she agrees with me that we should pursue getting one of each device, for me to trial, so I may end up walking around with 3 phones on my belt soon...lol. Joe Heaton From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Cook - well, there ya go Joe - test out your rep ;) From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 12:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I saw that too, but we have a couple here... On Dec 27, 2007 10:45 AM, Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really? - even the blackberry.com http://blackberry.com/ site does not show a Verizon Curve. From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:15 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Talk to your Verizon rep, I don't see them listed but I know they have them because we have users who have them... On Dec 27, 2007 10:11 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Well, unfortunately, the Curve is not listed on Verizon's website for BB devices. Joe Heaton From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:10 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion You're missing the curve off of your list which has a full qwerty keyboard. The 8830 would be my other choice. I don't like the pearl because it's not full qwerty... On Dec 27, 2007 10:06 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Any BB model that people would recommend over others? Our provider lists the following on their site: 7130e Pearl 8130 8703e 8830 World Edition Thanks, Joe Heaton From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:34 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion 1. Yes 2. Yes, excedt BB doesn't do so hot on PDF's yet 3. BB User proof, WM not so much On Dec 27, 2007 9:27 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: I've started a new thread, because my manager is now asking me to create a proposal document for our Director, in order to recommend the best solution. I have a few specific questions that may or may not have been covered in the last thread. 1) Does the BB, if I have BES installed in my server room, allow sync of contacts/tasks/calendar etc. Also, just to be fair and complete, does the WM device have this capability? 2) Does the BB have the same ability to open the same types of attachments as the WM device? 3) Are there any other functionalities that one device has over the other, from an end-user perspective, that would be something I need to know about? I'm sorry if the last question is a bit vague, but this is really my first endeavor in these waters, and I'd just like to have as many real world experiences as possible to draw from to make this decision. I do understand that it's not difficult to support both, but I just need to make sure the endusers are going to be satisfied with the chosen solution. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database
RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion
Why must you say email is better on the BB? My wife has the 6800, loves it. ( I wish I would have waited for it to come out and get it instead of my Samsung i780) My son got her old 6700, and keeps trying to scheme ways to steal the 6800. ~Kevinm WLKMMAS Formerly of Microsofthttp://www.microsoft.com/exchange/, now powered by 3Sharphttp://www.3sharp.com/, Always WLKhttp://pics.wlkmmas.org/MMAShttp://www.hedonists.ca/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Definetly check out the new VX6800. I have a few friends who picked one up and its hands down better than the 6700. I am very tempted to drop my BB and go back to WM. Miss the touchscreen and HTML Email. I will say that the email functionality of the BB is much better than the WM. Greg From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I definitely will. So, as I understand it, the recommended devices are: WM - Treo 700wx BB - Curve (if available), and 8830 if the Curve is not available. I've spoken with my manager, and she agrees with me that we should pursue getting one of each device, for me to trial, so I may end up walking around with 3 phones on my belt soon...lol. Joe Heaton From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Cook - well, there ya go Joe - test out your rep ;) From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 12:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I saw that too, but we have a couple here... On Dec 27, 2007 10:45 AM, Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really? - even the blackberry.comhttp://blackberry.com/ site does not show a Verizon Curve. From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:15 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Talk to your Verizon rep, I don't see them listed but I know they have them because we have users who have them... On Dec 27, 2007 10:11 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Well, unfortunately, the Curve is not listed on Verizon's website for BB devices. Joe Heaton From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:10 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion You're missing the curve off of your list which has a full qwerty keyboard. The 8830 would be my other choice. I don't like the pearl because it's not full qwerty... On Dec 27, 2007 10:06 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Any BB model that people would recommend over others? Our provider lists the following on their site: 7130e Pearl 8130 8703e 8830 World Edition Thanks, Joe Heaton From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:34 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion 1. Yes 2. Yes, excedt BB doesn't do so hot on PDF's yet 3. BB User proof, WM not so much On Dec 27, 2007 9:27 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: I've started a new thread, because my manager is now asking me to create a proposal document for our Director, in order to recommend the best solution. I have a few specific questions that may or may not have been covered in the last thread. 1) Does the BB, if I have BES installed in my server room, allow sync of contacts/tasks/calendar etc. Also, just to be fair and complete, does the WM device have this capability? 2) Does the BB have the same ability to open the same types of attachments as the WM device? 3) Are there any other functionalities that one device has over the other, from an end-user
Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion
Just get a WM6 ROM for the 6700 and his will be better than hers!! :P On Dec 28, 2007 8:15 AM, Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why must you say email is better on the BB? My wife has the 6800, loves it. ( I wish I would have waited for it to come out and get it instead of my Samsung i780) My son got her old 6700, and keeps trying to scheme ways to steal the 6800. ~Kevinm *WLKMMAS* Formerly of Microsoft http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/, now powered by 3Sharp http://www.3sharp.com/, Always WLK http://pics.wlkmmas.org/MMAShttp://www.hedonists.ca/ *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, December 28, 2007 8:14 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Definetly check out the new VX6800. I have a few friends who picked one up and its hands down better than the 6700. I am very tempted to drop my BB and go back to WM. Miss the touchscreen and HTML Email. I will say that the email functionality of the BB is much better than the WM. Greg *From:* Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, December 28, 2007 10:31 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I definitely will. So, as I understand it, the recommended devices are: WM – Treo 700wx BB – Curve (if available), and 8830 if the Curve is not available. I've spoken with my manager, and she agrees with me that we should pursue getting one of each device, for me to trial, so I may end up walking around with 3 phones on my belt soon…lol. Joe Heaton *From:* Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:19 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Cook – well, there ya go Joe – test out your rep ;) -- *From:* Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, December 27, 2007 12:43 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I saw that too, but we have a couple here... On Dec 27, 2007 10:45 AM, Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really? – even the blackberry.com site does not show a Verizon Curve. -- *From:* exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent: *Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:15 AM *To:* exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject:* Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Talk to your Verizon rep, I don't see them listed but I know they have them because we have users who have them... On Dec 27, 2007 10:11 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Well, unfortunately, the Curve is not listed on Verizon's website for BB devices. Joe Heaton *From:* exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent: *Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:10 AM *To:* exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject:* Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion You're missing the curve off of your list which has a full qwerty keyboard. The 8830 would be my other choice. I don't like the pearl because it's not full qwerty... On Dec 27, 2007 10:06 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Any BB model that people would recommend over others? Our provider lists the following on their site: 7130e Pearl 8130 8703e 8830 World Edition Thanks, Joe Heaton *From:* exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent: *Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:34 AM *To:* exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject:* Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion 1. Yes 2. Yes, excedt BB doesn't do so hot on PDF's yet 3. BB User proof, WM not so much On Dec 27, 2007 9:27 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: I've started a new thread, because my manager is now asking me to create a proposal document for our Director, in order to recommend the best solution. I have a few specific questions that may or may not have been covered in the last thread. 1) Does the BB, if I have BES installed in my server room, allow sync of contacts/tasks/calendar etc. Also, just to be fair and complete, does the WM device have this capability? 2) Does the BB have the same ability to open the same types of attachments as the WM device? 3) Are there any other functionalities that one device has over the other, from an end-user perspective, that would be something I need to know about? I'm sorry if the last question is a bit vague, but this is really my first endeavor in these waters, and I'd just like to have as many real world experiences as possible to draw from to make this decision. I do understand that it's not difficult to support both, but I just need to make sure the endusers
Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion
I just got a little HTC...works like a charm, smaller than the previous ipaq6955 and still has the full keyboard. HTC makes some of the best hardware around. On Dec 28, 2007 10:21 AM, Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just get a WM6 ROM for the 6700 and his will be better than hers!! :P On Dec 28, 2007 8:15 AM, Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why must you say email is better on the BB? My wife has the 6800, loves it. ( I wish I would have waited for it to come out and get it instead of my Samsung i780) My son got her old 6700, and keeps trying to scheme ways to steal the 6800. ~Kevinm WLKMMAS Formerly of Microsoft, now powered by 3Sharp, Always WLKMMAS From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Definetly check out the new VX6800. I have a few friends who picked one up and its hands down better than the 6700. I am very tempted to drop my BB and go back to WM. Miss the touchscreen and HTML Email. I will say that the email functionality of the BB is much better than the WM. Greg From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I definitely will. So, as I understand it, the recommended devices are: WM – Treo 700wx BB – Curve (if available), and 8830 if the Curve is not available. I've spoken with my manager, and she agrees with me that we should pursue getting one of each device, for me to trial, so I may end up walking around with 3 phones on my belt soon…lol. Joe Heaton From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Cook – well, there ya go Joe – test out your rep ;) From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 12:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I saw that too, but we have a couple here... On Dec 27, 2007 10:45 AM, Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really? – even the blackberry.com site does not show a Verizon Curve. From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:15 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Talk to your Verizon rep, I don't see them listed but I know they have them because we have users who have them... On Dec 27, 2007 10:11 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Well, unfortunately, the Curve is not listed on Verizon's website for BB devices. Joe Heaton From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:10 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion You're missing the curve off of your list which has a full qwerty keyboard. The 8830 would be my other choice. I don't like the pearl because it's not full qwerty... On Dec 27, 2007 10:06 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Any BB model that people would recommend over others? Our provider lists the following on their site: 7130e Pearl 8130 8703e 8830 World Edition Thanks, Joe Heaton From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:34 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion 1. Yes 2. Yes, excedt BB doesn't do so hot on PDF's yet 3. BB User proof, WM not so much On Dec 27, 2007 9:27 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: I've started a new thread, because my manager is now asking me to create a proposal document for our Director, in order to recommend the best solution. I have a few specific questions that may or may not have been covered in the last thread. 1) Does the BB, if I have BES installed in my server room, allow sync of contacts/tasks/calendar etc. Also, just to be fair and complete, does the WM device have this capability? 2) Does the BB have the same ability to open the same
RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion
Done.. and Done.. Then I installed lemonade tycoon for both of them. They are trying to see who can do better. So far CL is in the lead. ~Kevinm WLKMMAS Formerly of Microsofthttp://www.microsoft.com/exchange/, now powered by 3Sharphttp://www.3sharp.com/, Always WLKhttp://pics.wlkmmas.org/MMAShttp://www.hedonists.ca/ From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:21 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Just get a WM6 ROM for the 6700 and his will be better than hers!! :P On Dec 28, 2007 8:15 AM, Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why must you say email is better on the BB? My wife has the 6800, loves it. ( I wish I would have waited for it to come out and get it instead of my Samsung i780) My son got her old 6700, and keeps trying to scheme ways to steal the 6800. ~Kevinm WLKMMAS Formerly of Microsofthttp://www.microsoft.com/exchange/, now powered by 3Sharphttp://www.3sharp.com/, Always WLKhttp://pics.wlkmmas.org/MMAShttp://www.hedonists.ca/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Definetly check out the new VX6800. I have a few friends who picked one up and its hands down better than the 6700. I am very tempted to drop my BB and go back to WM. Miss the touchscreen and HTML Email. I will say that the email functionality of the BB is much better than the WM. Greg From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I definitely will. So, as I understand it, the recommended devices are: WM - Treo 700wx BB - Curve (if available), and 8830 if the Curve is not available. I've spoken with my manager, and she agrees with me that we should pursue getting one of each device, for me to trial, so I may end up walking around with 3 phones on my belt soon...lol. Joe Heaton From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Cook - well, there ya go Joe - test out your rep ;) From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 12:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I saw that too, but we have a couple here... On Dec 27, 2007 10:45 AM, Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really? - even the blackberry.comhttp://blackberry.com/ site does not show a Verizon Curve. From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:15 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Talk to your Verizon rep, I don't see them listed but I know they have them because we have users who have them... On Dec 27, 2007 10:11 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Well, unfortunately, the Curve is not listed on Verizon's website for BB devices. Joe Heaton From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:10 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion You're missing the curve off of your list which has a full qwerty keyboard. The 8830 would be my other choice. I don't like the pearl because it's not full qwerty... On Dec 27, 2007 10:06 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Any BB model that people would recommend over others? Our provider lists the following on their site: 7130e Pearl 8130 8703e 8830 World Edition Thanks, Joe Heaton From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:34 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion 1. Yes 2. Yes, excedt BB doesn't do so hot
RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion
Its just easier. Its not bad on a WM device at all, just better on a BB. From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 11:16 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Why must you say email is better on the BB? My wife has the 6800, loves it. ( I wish I would have waited for it to come out and get it instead of my Samsung i780) My son got her old 6700, and keeps trying to scheme ways to steal the 6800. ~Kevinm WLKMMAS Formerly of Microsoft http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/ , now powered by 3Sharp http://www.3sharp.com/ , Always WLK http://pics.wlkmmas.org/ MMAS http://www.hedonists.ca/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Definetly check out the new VX6800. I have a few friends who picked one up and its hands down better than the 6700. I am very tempted to drop my BB and go back to WM. Miss the touchscreen and HTML Email. I will say that the email functionality of the BB is much better than the WM. Greg From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I definitely will. So, as I understand it, the recommended devices are: WM - Treo 700wx BB - Curve (if available), and 8830 if the Curve is not available. I've spoken with my manager, and she agrees with me that we should pursue getting one of each device, for me to trial, so I may end up walking around with 3 phones on my belt soon...lol. Joe Heaton From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Cook - well, there ya go Joe - test out your rep ;) From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 12:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I saw that too, but we have a couple here... On Dec 27, 2007 10:45 AM, Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really? - even the blackberry.com http://blackberry.com/ site does not show a Verizon Curve. From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:15 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Talk to your Verizon rep, I don't see them listed but I know they have them because we have users who have them... On Dec 27, 2007 10:11 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Well, unfortunately, the Curve is not listed on Verizon's website for BB devices. Joe Heaton From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:10 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion You're missing the curve off of your list which has a full qwerty keyboard. The 8830 would be my other choice. I don't like the pearl because it's not full qwerty... On Dec 27, 2007 10:06 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Any BB model that people would recommend over others? Our provider lists the following on their site: 7130e Pearl 8130 8703e 8830 World Edition Thanks, Joe Heaton From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:34 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion 1. Yes 2. Yes, excedt BB doesn't do so hot on PDF's yet 3. BB User proof, WM not so much On Dec 27, 2007 9:27 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: I've started a new thread, because my manager is now asking me to create a proposal document for our Director, in order to recommend the best solution. I have a few specific questions that may or may not have been covered in the last thread. 1) Does the BB, if I have BES installed in my server room, allow sync of contacts/tasks/calendar etc. Also, just to be fair and complete, does the WM device have this capability? 2) Does the BB have the same ability to open the same types of attachments as the WM device? 3) Are there any other functionalities that one device has over the other, from an end-user perspective, that would be something I need to know about? I'm sorry if the last question is a bit vague, but this is really my first endeavor
RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion
Such details me Son, what did you do at school today son nothing, what's for dinner me food son seriously, what are we having me seriously, what did you do at school today son finally gives some details. Note : I've been in bed with the Windows Mobile, and Mobile Device Manager teams for the past few months doing stuff I'm going to feed most of the positive / negative comments in this thread back to those teams one way or another. [1] [1] Ya'll are making me sounds more smarter and informed ~Kevinm WLKMMAS Formerly of Microsofthttp://www.microsoft.com/exchange/, now powered by 3Sharphttp://www.3sharp.com/, Always WLKhttp://pics.wlkmmas.org/MMAShttp://www.hedonists.ca/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Its just easier. Its not bad on a WM device at all, just better on a BB. From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 11:16 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Why must you say email is better on the BB? My wife has the 6800, loves it. ( I wish I would have waited for it to come out and get it instead of my Samsung i780) My son got her old 6700, and keeps trying to scheme ways to steal the 6800. ~Kevinm WLKMMAS Formerly of Microsofthttp://www.microsoft.com/exchange/, now powered by 3Sharphttp://www.3sharp.com/, Always WLKhttp://pics.wlkmmas.org/MMAShttp://www.hedonists.ca/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Definetly check out the new VX6800. I have a few friends who picked one up and its hands down better than the 6700. I am very tempted to drop my BB and go back to WM. Miss the touchscreen and HTML Email. I will say that the email functionality of the BB is much better than the WM. Greg From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I definitely will. So, as I understand it, the recommended devices are: WM - Treo 700wx BB - Curve (if available), and 8830 if the Curve is not available. I've spoken with my manager, and she agrees with me that we should pursue getting one of each device, for me to trial, so I may end up walking around with 3 phones on my belt soon...lol. Joe Heaton From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Cook - well, there ya go Joe - test out your rep ;) From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 12:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I saw that too, but we have a couple here... On Dec 27, 2007 10:45 AM, Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really? - even the blackberry.comhttp://blackberry.com/ site does not show a Verizon Curve. From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:15 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Talk to your Verizon rep, I don't see them listed but I know they have them because we have users who have them... On Dec 27, 2007 10:11 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Well, unfortunately, the Curve is not listed on Verizon's website for BB devices. Joe Heaton From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:10 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion You're missing the curve off of your list which has a full qwerty keyboard. The 8830 would be my other choice. I don't like the pearl because it's not full qwerty... On Dec 27, 2007 10:06 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Any BB model that people would recommend over others? Our provider lists the following on their site: 7130e Pearl 8130 8703e 8830 World Edition Thanks, Joe Heaton From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt
RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion
Did you mean the XV6800? If so, I can look into that one too… Joe Heaton From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Definetly check out the new VX6800. I have a few friends who picked one up and its hands down better than the 6700. I am very tempted to drop my BB and go back to WM. Miss the touchscreen and HTML Email. I will say that the email functionality of the BB is much better than the WM. Greg From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I definitely will. So, as I understand it, the recommended devices are: WM – Treo 700wx BB – Curve (if available), and 8830 if the Curve is not available. I’ve spoken with my manager, and she agrees with me that we should pursue getting one of each device, for me to trial, so I may end up walking around with 3 phones on my belt soon…lol. Joe Heaton From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Cook – well, there ya go Joe – test out your rep ;) _ From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 12:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I saw that too, but we have a couple here... On Dec 27, 2007 10:45 AM, Don Andrews HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really? – even the HYPERLINK http://blackberry.com/; \nblackberry.com site does not show a Verizon Curve. _ From: HYPERLINK mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:HYPERLINK mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:15 AM To: HYPERLINK mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Talk to your Verizon rep, I don't see them listed but I know they have them because we have users who have them... On Dec 27, 2007 10:11 AM, HYPERLINK mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, unfortunately, the Curve is not listed on Verizon's website for BB devices. Joe Heaton From: HYPERLINK mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:HYPERLINK mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com; \n [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:10 AM To: HYPERLINK mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion You're missing the curve off of your list which has a full qwerty keyboard. The 8830 would be my other choice. I don't like the pearl because it's not full qwerty... On Dec 27, 2007 10:06 AM, HYPERLINK mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any BB model that people would recommend over others? Our provider lists the following on their site: 7130e Pearl 8130 8703e 8830 World Edition Thanks, Joe Heaton From: HYPERLINK mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:HYPERLINK mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com; \n [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:34 AM To: HYPERLINK mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion 1. Yes 2. Yes, excedt BB doesn't do so hot on PDF's yet 3. BB User proof, WM not so much On Dec 27, 2007 9:27 AM, HYPERLINK mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've started a new thread, because my manager is now asking me to create a proposal document for our Director, in order to recommend the best solution. I have a few specific questions that may or may not have been covered in the last thread. 1) Does the BB, if I have BES installed in my server room, allow sync of contacts/tasks/calendar etc. Also, just to be fair and complete, does the WM device have this capability? 2) Does the BB have the same ability to open the same types of attachments as the WM device? 3) Are there any other functionalities that one device has over the other, from an end-user perspective, that would be something I need to know about? I'm sorry if the last question is a bit vague, but this is really my first endeavor in these waters, and I'd just like to have as many real world experiences as possible to draw from to make this decision. I do understand that it's not difficult to support both, but I just need to make sure the endusers are going
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Tell them I need more ability to customize the desktop. Something like the HTC desktop in my WM6 ROM... I need to be able to create a portal interface on my phone... On Dec 28, 2007 8:37 AM, Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Such details…. me Son, what did you do at school today son nothing, what's for dinner me food son seriously, what are we having me seriously, what did you do at school today son finally gives some details. Note : I've been in bed with the Windows Mobile, and Mobile Device Manager teams for the past few months doing stuff I'm going to feed most of the positive / negative comments in this thread back to those teams one way or another. [1] [1] Ya'll are making me sounds more smarter and informed ~Kevinm *WLKMMAS* Formerly of Microsoft http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/, now powered by 3Sharp http://www.3sharp.com/, Always WLK http://pics.wlkmmas.org/MMAShttp://www.hedonists.ca/ *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, December 28, 2007 8:29 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Its just easier. Its not bad on a WM device at all, just better on a BB. *From:* Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, December 28, 2007 11:16 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Why must you say email is better on the BB? My wife has the 6800, loves it. ( I wish I would have waited for it to come out and get it instead of my Samsung i780) My son got her old 6700, and keeps trying to scheme ways to steal the 6800. ~Kevinm *WLKMMAS* Formerly of Microsoft http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/, now powered by 3Sharp http://www.3sharp.com/, Always WLK http://pics.wlkmmas.org/MMAShttp://www.hedonists.ca/ *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, December 28, 2007 8:14 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Definetly check out the new VX6800. I have a few friends who picked one up and its hands down better than the 6700. I am very tempted to drop my BB and go back to WM. Miss the touchscreen and HTML Email. I will say that the email functionality of the BB is much better than the WM. Greg *From:* Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, December 28, 2007 10:31 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I definitely will. So, as I understand it, the recommended devices are: WM – Treo 700wx BB – Curve (if available), and 8830 if the Curve is not available. I've spoken with my manager, and she agrees with me that we should pursue getting one of each device, for me to trial, so I may end up walking around with 3 phones on my belt soon…lol. Joe Heaton *From:* Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:19 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Cook – well, there ya go Joe – test out your rep ;) -- *From:* Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, December 27, 2007 12:43 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I saw that too, but we have a couple here... On Dec 27, 2007 10:45 AM, Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really? – even the blackberry.com site does not show a Verizon Curve. -- *From:* exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent: *Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:15 AM *To:* exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject:* Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Talk to your Verizon rep, I don't see them listed but I know they have them because we have users who have them... On Dec 27, 2007 10:11 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Well, unfortunately, the Curve is not listed on Verizon's website for BB devices. Joe Heaton *From:* exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent: *Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:10 AM *To:* exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject:* Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion You're missing the curve off of your list which has a full qwerty keyboard. The 8830 would be my other choice. I don't like the pearl because it's not full qwerty... On Dec 27, 2007 10:06 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Any BB model that people would recommend over others? Our provider lists the following on their site: 7130e Pearl 8130 8703e 8830 World Edition Thanks, Joe Heaton *From:* exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent: *Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:34 AM *To:* exchangelist
Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion
yes, that is the one... On Dec 28, 2007 8:40 AM, Joe Heaton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you mean the XV6800? If so, I can look into that one too… Joe Heaton *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, December 28, 2007 8:14 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Definetly check out the new VX6800. I have a few friends who picked one up and its hands down better than the 6700. I am very tempted to drop my BB and go back to WM. Miss the touchscreen and HTML Email. I will say that the email functionality of the BB is much better than the WM. Greg *From:* Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, December 28, 2007 10:31 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I definitely will. So, as I understand it, the recommended devices are: WM – Treo 700wx BB – Curve (if available), and 8830 if the Curve is not available. I've spoken with my manager, and she agrees with me that we should pursue getting one of each device, for me to trial, so I may end up walking around with 3 phones on my belt soon…lol. Joe Heaton *From:* Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:19 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Cook – well, there ya go Joe – test out your rep ;) -- *From:* Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, December 27, 2007 12:43 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I saw that too, but we have a couple here... On Dec 27, 2007 10:45 AM, Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really? – even the blackberry.com site does not show a Verizon Curve. -- *From:* exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent: *Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:15 AM *To:* exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject:* Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Talk to your Verizon rep, I don't see them listed but I know they have them because we have users who have them... On Dec 27, 2007 10:11 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Well, unfortunately, the Curve is not listed on Verizon's website for BB devices. Joe Heaton *From:* exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent: *Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:10 AM *To:* exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject:* Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion You're missing the curve off of your list which has a full qwerty keyboard. The 8830 would be my other choice. I don't like the pearl because it's not full qwerty... On Dec 27, 2007 10:06 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Any BB model that people would recommend over others? Our provider lists the following on their site: 7130e Pearl 8130 8703e 8830 World Edition Thanks, Joe Heaton *From:* exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent: *Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:34 AM *To:* exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject:* Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion 1. Yes 2. Yes, excedt BB doesn't do so hot on PDF's yet 3. BB User proof, WM not so much On Dec 27, 2007 9:27 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: I've started a new thread, because my manager is now asking me to create a proposal document for our Director, in order to recommend the best solution. I have a few specific questions that may or may not have been covered in the last thread. 1) Does the BB, if I have BES installed in my server room, allow sync of contacts/tasks/calendar etc. Also, just to be fair and complete, does the WM device have this capability? 2) Does the BB have the same ability to open the same types of attachments as the WM device? 3) Are there any other functionalities that one device has over the other, from an end-user perspective, that would be something I need to know about? I'm sorry if the last question is a bit vague, but this is really my first endeavor in these waters, and I'd just like to have as many real world experiences as possible to draw from to make this decision. I do understand that it's not difficult to support both, but I just need to make sure the endusers are going to be satisfied with the chosen solution. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found
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From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion [1] Ya'll are making me sounds more smarter and informed But we can't do a thing about your looks! J Webster ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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Ok not too pound on this topic anymore, but one thing that just barely gets addressed between BB and WM is what Kevin said earlier. WM is a computer, my 6800 does full IE (almost), has 6-8 applications I use all the time, and is nearly a 2nd laptop for me. BB is an email machine, there are apps available but few by comparison (though google maps was a great addition) I prefer WM because of the options, we run BES because some of our execs can barely find the power button on their laptops. If we had all folks who were tech savy and used email/calendaring/tasks/exchange to its fullest potential as well as needed a simple laptop replacement for short trips and what not, there would be no question. But we don't, and hence we support both J ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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Agreed - it depends on your needs. What we provide is a company owned, managed device for wireless extension of the Exchange mailbox (which includes mail, calendar, address book/GAL access, notes and tasks), intranet web access and cell phone - if required, gps and telenav like application. Our intent is not to replace ones personal cell phone/pda with all their personal apps - this is a business device. As such, BB/BES excels in our minds. YMMV From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Ok not too pound on this topic anymore, but one thing that just barely gets addressed between BB and WM is what Kevin said earlier. WM is a computer, my 6800 does full IE (almost), has 6-8 applications I use all the time, and is nearly a 2nd laptop for me. BB is an email machine, there are apps available but few by comparison (though google maps was a great addition) I prefer WM because of the options, we run BES because some of our execs can barely find the power button on their laptops. If we had all folks who were tech savy and used email/calendaring/tasks/exchange to its fullest potential as well as needed a simple laptop replacement for short trips and what not, there would be no question. But we don't, and hence we support both :-) ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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ATT and Verizon keep sending me phones to eval so I've used most of the BB's and a bunch of the WM. If I had to go BlackBerry I think I'd go with the Curve first and one of the 88x0's second. WM. BlackJack II (in hand now) is really nice. So is the Palm 750. I'm not a huge fan of the slide out keyboards but the Tilt I have here is nice as well as the 6800. I'm waiting for them to send me the i760 so I can play with that for a while. I'm interested to see if the front keyboard acts like the Pearl for quick reply capabilities and then you can open the keyboard if you need the qwerty. I wouldn't buy another Q if you paid for it. From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 11:21 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Just get a WM6 ROM for the 6700 and his will be better than hers!! :P On Dec 28, 2007 8:15 AM, Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why must you say email is better on the BB? My wife has the 6800, loves it. ( I wish I would have waited for it to come out and get it instead of my Samsung i780) My son got her old 6700, and keeps trying to scheme ways to steal the 6800. ~Kevinm WLKMMAS Formerly of Microsoft http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/ , now powered by 3Sharp http://www.3sharp.com/ , Always WLK http://pics.wlkmmas.org/ MMAS http://www.hedonists.ca/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Definetly check out the new VX6800. I have a few friends who picked one up and its hands down better than the 6700. I am very tempted to drop my BB and go back to WM. Miss the touchscreen and HTML Email. I will say that the email functionality of the BB is much better than the WM. Greg From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I definitely will. So, as I understand it, the recommended devices are: WM - Treo 700wx BB - Curve (if available), and 8830 if the Curve is not available. I've spoken with my manager, and she agrees with me that we should pursue getting one of each device, for me to trial, so I may end up walking around with 3 phones on my belt soon...lol. Joe Heaton From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Cook - well, there ya go Joe - test out your rep ;) From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 12:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I saw that too, but we have a couple here... On Dec 27, 2007 10:45 AM, Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really? - even the blackberry.com http://blackberry.com/ site does not show a Verizon Curve. From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:15 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Talk to your Verizon rep, I don't see them listed but I know they have them because we have users who have them... On Dec 27, 2007 10:11 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Well, unfortunately, the Curve is not listed on Verizon's website for BB devices. Joe Heaton From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:10 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion You're missing the curve off of your list which has a full qwerty keyboard. The 8830 would be my other choice. I don't like the pearl
Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=11074 On Dec 28, 2007 9:32 AM, Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You wouldn't happen to have a link for the WM6 upg would you? -- *From:* Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, December 28, 2007 8:21 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Just get a WM6 ROM for the 6700 and his will be better than hers!! :P On Dec 28, 2007 8:15 AM, Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why must you say email is better on the BB? My wife has the 6800, loves it. ( I wish I would have waited for it to come out and get it instead of my Samsung i780) My son got her old 6700, and keeps trying to scheme ways to steal the 6800. ~Kevinm *WLKMMAS* Formerly of Microsoft http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/, now powered by 3Sharp http://www.3sharp.com/, Always WLK http://pics.wlkmmas.org/MMAShttp://www.hedonists.ca/ *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, December 28, 2007 8:14 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Definetly check out the new VX6800. I have a few friends who picked one up and its hands down better than the 6700. I am very tempted to drop my BB and go back to WM. Miss the touchscreen and HTML Email. I will say that the email functionality of the BB is much better than the WM. Greg *From:* Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, December 28, 2007 10:31 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I definitely will. So, as I understand it, the recommended devices are: WM – Treo 700wx BB – Curve (if available), and 8830 if the Curve is not available. I've spoken with my manager, and she agrees with me that we should pursue getting one of each device, for me to trial, so I may end up walking around with 3 phones on my belt soon…lol. Joe Heaton *From:* Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:19 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Cook – well, there ya go Joe – test out your rep ;) -- *From:* Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, December 27, 2007 12:43 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I saw that too, but we have a couple here... On Dec 27, 2007 10:45 AM, Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really? – even the blackberry.com site does not show a Verizon Curve. -- *From:* exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent: *Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:15 AM *To:* exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject:* Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Talk to your Verizon rep, I don't see them listed but I know they have them because we have users who have them... On Dec 27, 2007 10:11 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Well, unfortunately, the Curve is not listed on Verizon's website for BB devices. Joe Heaton *From:* exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent: *Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:10 AM *To:* exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject:* Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion You're missing the curve off of your list which has a full qwerty keyboard. The 8830 would be my other choice. I don't like the pearl because it's not full qwerty... On Dec 27, 2007 10:06 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Any BB model that people would recommend over others? Our provider lists the following on their site: 7130e Pearl 8130 8703e 8830 World Edition Thanks, Joe Heaton *From:* exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent: *Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:34 AM *To:* exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject:* Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion 1. Yes 2. Yes, excedt BB doesn't do so hot on PDF's yet 3. BB User proof, WM not so much On Dec 27, 2007 9:27 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: I've started a new thread, because my manager is now asking me to create a proposal document for our Director, in order to recommend the best solution. I have a few specific questions that may or may not have been covered in the last thread. 1) Does the BB, if I have BES installed in my server room, allow sync of contacts/tasks/calendar etc. Also, just to be fair and complete, does the WM device have this capability? 2) Does the BB have the same ability to open the same types of attachments as the WM device? 3) Are there any other functionalities that one device has over
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Cool, thanks Don From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=11074 On Dec 28, 2007 9:32 AM, Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You wouldn't happen to have a link for the WM6 upg would you? From: Don Ely [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:21 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Just get a WM6 ROM for the 6700 and his will be better than hers!! :P On Dec 28, 2007 8:15 AM, Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why must you say email is better on the BB? My wife has the 6800, loves it. ( I wish I would have waited for it to come out and get it instead of my Samsung i780) My son got her old 6700, and keeps trying to scheme ways to steal the 6800. ~Kevinm WLKMMAS Formerly of Microsoft http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/ , now powered by 3Sharp http://www.3sharp.com/ , Always WLK http://pics.wlkmmas.org/ MMAS http://www.hedonists.ca/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Definetly check out the new VX6800. I have a few friends who picked one up and its hands down better than the 6700. I am very tempted to drop my BB and go back to WM. Miss the touchscreen and HTML Email. I will say that the email functionality of the BB is much better than the WM. Greg From: Joe Heaton [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I definitely will. So, as I understand it, the recommended devices are: WM - Treo 700wx BB - Curve (if available), and 8830 if the Curve is not available. I've spoken with my manager, and she agrees with me that we should pursue getting one of each device, for me to trial, so I may end up walking around with 3 phones on my belt soon...lol. Joe Heaton From: Don Andrews [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Cook - well, there ya go Joe - test out your rep ;) From: Don Ely [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 12:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I saw that too, but we have a couple here... On Dec 27, 2007 10:45 AM, Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really? - even the blackberry.com http://blackberry.com/ site does not show a Verizon Curve. From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:15 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Talk to your Verizon rep, I don't see them listed but I know they have them because we have users who have them... On Dec 27, 2007 10:11 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Well, unfortunately, the Curve is not listed on Verizon's website for BB devices. Joe Heaton From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:10 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion You're missing the curve off of your list which has a full qwerty keyboard. The 8830 would be my other choice. I don't like the pearl because it's not full qwerty... On Dec 27, 2007 10:06 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Any BB model that people would recommend over others? Our provider lists the following on their site: 7130e Pearl 8130 8703e 8830 World Edition Thanks, Joe Heaton From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:34 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion 1. Yes 2. Yes, excedt BB doesn't do so hot on PDF's yet 3. BB User proof, WM not so much On Dec 27, 2007 9:27 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: I've started a new thread, because my manager is now asking me to create
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You wouldn't happen to have a link for the WM6 upg would you? From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:21 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Just get a WM6 ROM for the 6700 and his will be better than hers!! :P On Dec 28, 2007 8:15 AM, Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why must you say email is better on the BB? My wife has the 6800, loves it. ( I wish I would have waited for it to come out and get it instead of my Samsung i780) My son got her old 6700, and keeps trying to scheme ways to steal the 6800. ~Kevinm WLKMMAS Formerly of Microsoft http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/ , now powered by 3Sharp http://www.3sharp.com/ , Always WLK http://pics.wlkmmas.org/ MMAS http://www.hedonists.ca/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:14 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Definetly check out the new VX6800. I have a few friends who picked one up and its hands down better than the 6700. I am very tempted to drop my BB and go back to WM. Miss the touchscreen and HTML Email. I will say that the email functionality of the BB is much better than the WM. Greg From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I definitely will. So, as I understand it, the recommended devices are: WM - Treo 700wx BB - Curve (if available), and 8830 if the Curve is not available. I've spoken with my manager, and she agrees with me that we should pursue getting one of each device, for me to trial, so I may end up walking around with 3 phones on my belt soon...lol. Joe Heaton From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Cook - well, there ya go Joe - test out your rep ;) From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 12:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I saw that too, but we have a couple here... On Dec 27, 2007 10:45 AM, Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really? - even the blackberry.com http://blackberry.com/ site does not show a Verizon Curve. From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:15 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Talk to your Verizon rep, I don't see them listed but I know they have them because we have users who have them... On Dec 27, 2007 10:11 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Well, unfortunately, the Curve is not listed on Verizon's website for BB devices. Joe Heaton From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:10 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion You're missing the curve off of your list which has a full qwerty keyboard. The 8830 would be my other choice. I don't like the pearl because it's not full qwerty... On Dec 27, 2007 10:06 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Any BB model that people would recommend over others? Our provider lists the following on their site: 7130e Pearl 8130 8703e 8830 World Edition Thanks, Joe Heaton From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:34 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion 1. Yes 2. Yes, excedt BB doesn't do so hot on PDF's yet 3. BB User proof, WM not so much On Dec 27, 2007 9:27 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: I've started a new thread, because my manager is now asking me to create a proposal document for our Director, in order to recommend the best solution. I have a few specific questions that may or may not have been covered in the last thread. 1) Does the BB, if I have BES installed in my server room, allow sync of contacts/tasks/calendar etc. Also, just to be fair and complete, does the WM device have this capability? 2) Does the BB have the same ability to open the same types
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Web / intranet access on the BB stinks. From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 12:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Agreed - it depends on your needs. What we provide is a company owned, managed device for wireless extension of the Exchange mailbox (which includes mail, calendar, address book/GAL access, notes and tasks), intranet web access and cell phone - if required, gps and telenav like application. Our intent is not to replace ones personal cell phone/pda with all their personal apps - this is a business device. As such, BB/BES excels in our minds. YMMV From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Ok not too pound on this topic anymore, but one thing that just barely gets addressed between BB and WM is what Kevin said earlier. WM is a computer, my 6800 does full IE (almost), has 6-8 applications I use all the time, and is nearly a 2nd laptop for me. BB is an email machine, there are apps available but few by comparison (though google maps was a great addition) I prefer WM because of the options, we run BES because some of our execs can barely find the power button on their laptops. If we had all folks who were tech savy and used email/calendaring/tasks/exchange to its fullest potential as well as needed a simple laptop replacement for short trips and what not, there would be no question. But we don't, and hence we support both :-) ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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Second that. IME, the BB has the worst browser compatibility (WAP only with any consistency). WM I would say comes in second (doesn't do WAP), and the Palm has the most versatile browser that can handle WAP, HTML, and some script. On Dec 28, 2007 1:30 PM, Schwartz, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (test) Web / intranet access on the BB stinks. -- *From:* Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, December 28, 2007 12:28 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Agreed – it depends on your needs. What we provide is a company owned, managed device for wireless extension of the Exchange mailbox (which includes mail, calendar, address book/GAL access, notes and tasks), intranet web access and cell phone – if required, gps and telenav like application. Our intent is not to replace ones personal cell phone/pda with all their personal apps – this is a business device. As such, BB/BES excels in our minds. YMMV -- *From:* Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, December 28, 2007 8:46 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Ok not too pound on this topic anymore, but one thing that just barely gets addressed between BB and WM is what Kevin said earlier. WM is a computer, my 6800 does full IE (almost), has 6-8 applications I use all the time, and is nearly a 2nd laptop for me. BB is an email machine, there are apps available but few by comparison (though google maps was a great addition) I prefer WM because of the options, we run BES because some of our execs can barely find the power button on their laptops. If we had all folks who were tech savy and used email/calendaring/tasks/exchange to its fullest potential as well as needed a simple laptop replacement for short trips and what not, there would be no question. But we don't, and hence we support both J -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion
Agreed - for pages/sites not designed for it - however if you have an app/page/site intended to be used by BBs (like our trouble ticket gateway), it works. From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion (test) Web / intranet access on the BB stinks. From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 12:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Agreed - it depends on your needs. What we provide is a company owned, managed device for wireless extension of the Exchange mailbox (which includes mail, calendar, address book/GAL access, notes and tasks), intranet web access and cell phone - if required, gps and telenav like application. Our intent is not to replace ones personal cell phone/pda with all their personal apps - this is a business device. As such, BB/BES excels in our minds. YMMV From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Ok not too pound on this topic anymore, but one thing that just barely gets addressed between BB and WM is what Kevin said earlier. WM is a computer, my 6800 does full IE (almost), has 6-8 applications I use all the time, and is nearly a 2nd laptop for me. BB is an email machine, there are apps available but few by comparison (though google maps was a great addition) I prefer WM because of the options, we run BES because some of our execs can barely find the power button on their laptops. If we had all folks who were tech savy and used email/calendaring/tasks/exchange to its fullest potential as well as needed a simple laptop replacement for short trips and what not, there would be no question. But we don't, and hence we support both :-) ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion
1. Yes 2. Yes, excedt BB doesn't do so hot on PDF's yet 3. BB User proof, WM not so much On Dec 27, 2007 9:27 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: I've started a new thread, because my manager is now asking me to create a proposal document for our Director, in order to recommend the best solution. I have a few specific questions that may or may not have been covered in the last thread. 1) Does the BB, if I have BES installed in my server room, allow sync of contacts/tasks/calendar etc. Also, just to be fair and complete, does the WM device have this capability? 2) Does the BB have the same ability to open the same types of attachments as the WM device? 3) Are there any other functionalities that one device has over the other, from an end-user perspective, that would be something I need to know about? I'm sorry if the last question is a bit vague, but this is really my first endeavor in these waters, and I'd just like to have as many real world experiences as possible to draw from to make this decision. I do understand that it's not difficult to support both, but I just need to make sure the endusers are going to be satisfied with the chosen solution. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion
You're missing the curve off of your list which has a full qwerty keyboard. The 8830 would be my other choice. I don't like the pearl because it's not full qwerty... On Dec 27, 2007 10:06 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Any BB model that people would recommend over others? Our provider lists the following on their site: 7130e Pearl 8130 8703e 8830 World Edition Thanks, Joe Heaton *From:* exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:34 AM *To:* exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject:* Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion 1. Yes 2. Yes, excedt BB doesn't do so hot on PDF's yet 3. BB User proof, WM not so much On Dec 27, 2007 9:27 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: I've started a new thread, because my manager is now asking me to create a proposal document for our Director, in order to recommend the best solution. I have a few specific questions that may or may not have been covered in the last thread. 1) Does the BB, if I have BES installed in my server room, allow sync of contacts/tasks/calendar etc. Also, just to be fair and complete, does the WM device have this capability? 2) Does the BB have the same ability to open the same types of attachments as the WM device? 3) Are there any other functionalities that one device has over the other, from an end-user perspective, that would be something I need to know about? I'm sorry if the last question is a bit vague, but this is really my first endeavor in these waters, and I'd just like to have as many real world experiences as possible to draw from to make this decision. I do understand that it's not difficult to support both, but I just need to make sure the endusers are going to be satisfied with the chosen solution. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion
Well, unfortunately, the Curve is not listed on Verizon’s website for BB devices. Joe Heaton From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:10 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion You're missing the curve off of your list which has a full qwerty keyboard. The 8830 would be my other choice. I don't like the pearl because it's not full qwerty... On Dec 27, 2007 10:06 AM, HYPERLINK mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.comexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Any BB model that people would recommend over others? Our provider lists the following on their site: 7130e Pearl 8130 8703e 8830 World Edition Thanks, Joe Heaton From: HYPERLINK mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:HYPERLINK mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com; \n [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:34 AM To: HYPERLINK mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion 1. Yes 2. Yes, excedt BB doesn't do so hot on PDF's yet 3. BB User proof, WM not so much On Dec 27, 2007 9:27 AM, HYPERLINK mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've started a new thread, because my manager is now asking me to create a proposal document for our Director, in order to recommend the best solution. I have a few specific questions that may or may not have been covered in the last thread. 1) Does the BB, if I have BES installed in my server room, allow sync of contacts/tasks/calendar etc. Also, just to be fair and complete, does the WM device have this capability? 2) Does the BB have the same ability to open the same types of attachments as the WM device? 3) Are there any other functionalities that one device has over the other, from an end-user perspective, that would be something I need to know about? I'm sorry if the last question is a bit vague, but this is really my first endeavor in these waters, and I'd just like to have as many real world experiences as possible to draw from to make this decision. I do understand that it's not difficult to support both, but I just need to make sure the endusers are going to be satisfied with the chosen solution. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion
1. Yes, they both allow sync 2. Yes, but not in native office applications. Functionality is similar. 3. Yes, each application has it's plus and minuses, as well as fan boys. That's like asking Chevy or dodge. I am a WM fan boy myself. My wife, 11 year old son, and myself all have Windows Mobile devices with unlimited data packages that sync to our home exchange server. As a matter of timing someone asked me this weekend why I liked my WM phone. This is my answer. I've come to rely on my Windows Mobile device pretty heavily in the last few years. It enables me to be a great deal more productive, have more information with me, and have access to real time information from out there. The following are a few of the things they my phone does for me. 1. It syncs with Exchange over the wire. My Contacts, My Calendar, My Tasks, and My Email are with me and up-to-date when I need them. With direct push they are kept up-to-date in real time between 6am and 6pm every day. Then every 30 minutes outside of those hours. 2. I am big into putting my life in my tasks, and calendar to help remind me of what I need to do, and make lists of things to accomplish for the day. Having the same reminders and lists with me on my computers and my mobile and synced between the two gives me greater options. 3. I have dates, spouses, pictures, addresses, phone numbers, personal sound greetings and so on for all of my contacts. If I need to know something about someone it is in my contacts. Even better, once it is on my phone it uploads to my computer, or vice versa. 4. I use an application called EWallet [1] to store pretty much all of my information: website logins, SSN, DL#, Medical Numbers, Insurance Information, Bank Accounts, etc.. You name it data wise about me and my family, and it is stored in this application. The app uses 256k encryption. Plus you need the password for the device, then the password for the software to see anything. 6 digits for the phone and I use 12 digits for the software. It only syncs to my laptop with a cable. It is secure enough for me to feel safe, and enables me to have all of my data with me, 5. I have a few IMAP accounts on my phone to get email for work, and what not. 6. I use an application called Live PVR that allows me to record all incoming phone conversations from select people (Xwife). This application has been helpfully when building court cases, or calling her on her later false statements. 7. There are nice video games for my phone that let me zone out when I am waiting for something 8. I run communicator mobile on my phone synced to MS or Work depending on where and what I am doing . This gives me presence and instant communications with the people I work with. It also allows me to make VoIP calls when on a WIFI without great cell reception. 9. I run some SPB apps too, like the weather and time bars that let me know what is going outside since I don't see it much. 10. Through the web browser I can quickly check the status of the ferries via webcams. Via an application called SmartPhlow I can check live traffic data for my routes. Between these 2 things I can select the best route to get to my kid in real time. This has saved me all kinds of time over the last few years. There are other things, but these are the big ones. In short I very much love how much information and access I have in my pocket with a Windows Mobile Device. ~Kevinm WLKMMAS Formerly of Microsofthttp://www.microsoft.com/exchange/, now powered by 3Sharphttp://www.3sharp.com/, Always WLKhttp://pics.wlkmmas.org/MMAShttp://www.hedonists.ca/ From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:27 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I've started a new thread, because my manager is now asking me to create a proposal document for our Director, in order to recommend the best solution. I have a few specific questions that may or may not have been covered in the last thread. 1) Does the BB, if I have BES installed in my server room, allow sync of contacts/tasks/calendar etc. Also, just to be fair and complete, does the WM device have this capability? 2) Does the BB have the same ability to open the same types of attachments as the WM device? 3) Are there any other functionalities that one device has over the other, from an end-user perspective, that would be something I need to know about? I'm sorry if the last question is a bit vague, but this is really my first endeavor in these waters, and I'd just like to have as many real world experiences as possible to draw from to make this decision. I do understand that it's not difficult to support both, but I just need to make sure the endusers are going to be satisfied with the chosen solution.
RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion
Any BB model that people would recommend over others? Our provider lists the following on their site: 7130e Pearl 8130 8703e 8830 World Edition Thanks, Joe Heaton From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:34 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion 1. Yes 2. Yes, excedt BB doesn't do so hot on PDF's yet 3. BB User proof, WM not so much On Dec 27, 2007 9:27 AM, HYPERLINK mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.comexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: I've started a new thread, because my manager is now asking me to create a proposal document for our Director, in order to recommend the best solution. I have a few specific questions that may or may not have been covered in the last thread. 1) Does the BB, if I have BES installed in my server room, allow sync of contacts/tasks/calendar etc. Also, just to be fair and complete, does the WM device have this capability? 2) Does the BB have the same ability to open the same types of attachments as the WM device? 3) Are there any other functionalities that one device has over the other, from an end-user perspective, that would be something I need to know about? I'm sorry if the last question is a bit vague, but this is really my first endeavor in these waters, and I'd just like to have as many real world experiences as possible to draw from to make this decision. I do understand that it's not difficult to support both, but I just need to make sure the endusers are going to be satisfied with the chosen solution. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion
Talk to your Verizon rep, I don't see them listed but I know they have them because we have users who have them... On Dec 27, 2007 10:11 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Well, unfortunately, the Curve is not listed on Verizon's website for BB devices. Joe Heaton *From:* exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:10 AM *To:* exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject:* Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion You're missing the curve off of your list which has a full qwerty keyboard. The 8830 would be my other choice. I don't like the pearl because it's not full qwerty... On Dec 27, 2007 10:06 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Any BB model that people would recommend over others? Our provider lists the following on their site: 7130e Pearl 8130 8703e 8830 World Edition Thanks, Joe Heaton *From:* exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:34 AM *To:* exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject:* Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion 1. Yes 2. Yes, excedt BB doesn't do so hot on PDF's yet 3. BB User proof, WM not so much On Dec 27, 2007 9:27 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: I've started a new thread, because my manager is now asking me to create a proposal document for our Director, in order to recommend the best solution. I have a few specific questions that may or may not have been covered in the last thread. 1) Does the BB, if I have BES installed in my server room, allow sync of contacts/tasks/calendar etc. Also, just to be fair and complete, does the WM device have this capability? 2) Does the BB have the same ability to open the same types of attachments as the WM device? 3) Are there any other functionalities that one device has over the other, from an end-user perspective, that would be something I need to know about? I'm sorry if the last question is a bit vague, but this is really my first endeavor in these waters, and I'd just like to have as many real world experiences as possible to draw from to make this decision. I do understand that it's not difficult to support both, but I just need to make sure the endusers are going to be satisfied with the chosen solution. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion
1) yes, and notes as well as GAL lookup. WM generally yes but can't say about tasks or notes and I personally prefer the BB's GAL lookup - with a large GAL like ours, this is important. 2) Generally yes, but to be fair, MS office docs MAY be more compatible on the WM devices just due to the same vendor. 3) Security - BES has server initiated outbound connection - WM requires exposing your Exchange environment at least partially to the internet. BB intranet web site access via BES without allowing direct internet access is included. From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:27 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I've started a new thread, because my manager is now asking me to create a proposal document for our Director, in order to recommend the best solution. I have a few specific questions that may or may not have been covered in the last thread. 1) Does the BB, if I have BES installed in my server room, allow sync of contacts/tasks/calendar etc. Also, just to be fair and complete, does the WM device have this capability? 2) Does the BB have the same ability to open the same types of attachments as the WM device? 3) Are there any other functionalities that one device has over the other, from an end-user perspective, that would be something I need to know about? I'm sorry if the last question is a bit vague, but this is really my first endeavor in these waters, and I'd just like to have as many real world experiences as possible to draw from to make this decision. I do understand that it's not difficult to support both, but I just need to make sure the endusers are going to be satisfied with the chosen solution. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion
I thought the Curve was an ATT exclusivealthough I have been known to be wrong. Joe Fox Systems Administrator The McGuire Group Office# (716) 826-2010 ext: 1172 Mobile# (716) 846-9308 The materials in this e-mail are private and may contain Protected Health Information. If you are not the intended recipient be advised that any unauthorized use, disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender via telephone at 716-829-1978 or by return e-mail. From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Really? - even the blackberry.com site does not show a Verizon Curve. From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:15 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Talk to your Verizon rep, I don't see them listed but I know they have them because we have users who have them... On Dec 27, 2007 10:11 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Well, unfortunately, the Curve is not listed on Verizon's website for BB devices. Joe Heaton From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:10 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion You're missing the curve off of your list which has a full qwerty keyboard. The 8830 would be my other choice. I don't like the pearl because it's not full qwerty... On Dec 27, 2007 10:06 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Any BB model that people would recommend over others? Our provider lists the following on their site: 7130e Pearl 8130 8703e 8830 World Edition Thanks, Joe Heaton From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:34 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion 1. Yes 2. Yes, excedt BB doesn't do so hot on PDF's yet 3. BB User proof, WM not so much On Dec 27, 2007 9:27 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: I've started a new thread, because my manager is now asking me to create a proposal document for our Director, in order to recommend the best solution. I have a few specific questions that may or may not have been covered in the last thread. 1) Does the BB, if I have BES installed in my server room, allow sync of contacts/tasks/calendar etc. Also, just to be fair and complete, does the WM device have this capability? 2) Does the BB have the same ability to open the same types of attachments as the WM device? 3) Are there any other functionalities that one device has over the other, from an end-user perspective, that would be something I need to know about? I'm sorry if the last question is a bit vague, but this is really my first endeavor in these waters, and I'd just like to have as many real world experiences as possible to draw from to make this decision. I do understand that it's not difficult to support both, but I just need to make sure the endusers are going to be satisfied with the chosen solution. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion
Oh, and get your hands on any that strike your fancy - ideally for an eval period connected to your BES - which can also be an eval. From: Don Andrews Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:42 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion From the list I'd guess your wireless provider is Verizon - not my choice but if that's all you can get... I'd go with the most recent which would be the 8830. The 7130 and Pearl are sure-type keyboards (multiple letters per key) and not everyone likes them - have a look at http://www.blackberry.com http://www.blackberry.com/ for full device feature comparisons. If you have carrier choices, I'd also recommend a look at the Curve - 83xx series - very nice if its feature set fits. From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:07 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Any BB model that people would recommend over others? Our provider lists the following on their site: 7130e Pearl 8130 8703e 8830 World Edition Thanks, Joe Heaton From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:34 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion 1. Yes 2. Yes, excedt BB doesn't do so hot on PDF's yet 3. BB User proof, WM not so much On Dec 27, 2007 9:27 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: I've started a new thread, because my manager is now asking me to create a proposal document for our Director, in order to recommend the best solution. I have a few specific questions that may or may not have been covered in the last thread. 1) Does the BB, if I have BES installed in my server room, allow sync of contacts/tasks/calendar etc. Also, just to be fair and complete, does the WM device have this capability? 2) Does the BB have the same ability to open the same types of attachments as the WM device? 3) Are there any other functionalities that one device has over the other, from an end-user perspective, that would be something I need to know about? I'm sorry if the last question is a bit vague, but this is really my first endeavor in these waters, and I'd just like to have as many real world experiences as possible to draw from to make this decision. I do understand that it's not difficult to support both, but I just need to make sure the endusers are going to be satisfied with the chosen solution. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion
From the list I'd guess your wireless provider is Verizon - not my choice but if that's all you can get... I'd go with the most recent which would be the 8830. The 7130 and Pearl are sure-type keyboards (multiple letters per key) and not everyone likes them - have a look at http://www.blackberry.com http://www.blackberry.com/ for full device feature comparisons. If you have carrier choices, I'd also recommend a look at the Curve - 83xx series - very nice if its feature set fits. From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:07 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Any BB model that people would recommend over others? Our provider lists the following on their site: 7130e Pearl 8130 8703e 8830 World Edition Thanks, Joe Heaton From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:34 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion 1. Yes 2. Yes, excedt BB doesn't do so hot on PDF's yet 3. BB User proof, WM not so much On Dec 27, 2007 9:27 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: I've started a new thread, because my manager is now asking me to create a proposal document for our Director, in order to recommend the best solution. I have a few specific questions that may or may not have been covered in the last thread. 1) Does the BB, if I have BES installed in my server room, allow sync of contacts/tasks/calendar etc. Also, just to be fair and complete, does the WM device have this capability? 2) Does the BB have the same ability to open the same types of attachments as the WM device? 3) Are there any other functionalities that one device has over the other, from an end-user perspective, that would be something I need to know about? I'm sorry if the last question is a bit vague, but this is really my first endeavor in these waters, and I'd just like to have as many real world experiences as possible to draw from to make this decision. I do understand that it's not difficult to support both, but I just need to make sure the endusers are going to be satisfied with the chosen solution. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion
Really? - even the blackberry.com site does not show a Verizon Curve. From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:15 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Talk to your Verizon rep, I don't see them listed but I know they have them because we have users who have them... On Dec 27, 2007 10:11 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Well, unfortunately, the Curve is not listed on Verizon's website for BB devices. Joe Heaton From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:10 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion You're missing the curve off of your list which has a full qwerty keyboard. The 8830 would be my other choice. I don't like the pearl because it's not full qwerty... On Dec 27, 2007 10:06 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Any BB model that people would recommend over others? Our provider lists the following on their site: 7130e Pearl 8130 8703e 8830 World Edition Thanks, Joe Heaton From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:34 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion 1. Yes 2. Yes, excedt BB doesn't do so hot on PDF's yet 3. BB User proof, WM not so much On Dec 27, 2007 9:27 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: I've started a new thread, because my manager is now asking me to create a proposal document for our Director, in order to recommend the best solution. I have a few specific questions that may or may not have been covered in the last thread. 1) Does the BB, if I have BES installed in my server room, allow sync of contacts/tasks/calendar etc. Also, just to be fair and complete, does the WM device have this capability? 2) Does the BB have the same ability to open the same types of attachments as the WM device? 3) Are there any other functionalities that one device has over the other, from an end-user perspective, that would be something I need to know about? I'm sorry if the last question is a bit vague, but this is really my first endeavor in these waters, and I'd just like to have as many real world experiences as possible to draw from to make this decision. I do understand that it's not difficult to support both, but I just need to make sure the endusers are going to be satisfied with the chosen solution. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion
Nope, we have some T-Mobile 8320's we're looking at. Again. http://www.blackberry.com. From: Joe Fox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:49 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I thought the Curve was an ATT exclusivealthough I have been known to be wrong. Joe Fox Systems Administrator The McGuire Group Office# (716) 826-2010 ext: 1172 Mobile# (716) 846-9308 The materials in this e-mail are private and may contain Protected Health Information. If you are not the intended recipient be advised that any unauthorized use, disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender via telephone at 716-829-1978 or by return e-mail. From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Really? - even the blackberry.com site does not show a Verizon Curve. From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:15 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Talk to your Verizon rep, I don't see them listed but I know they have them because we have users who have them... On Dec 27, 2007 10:11 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Well, unfortunately, the Curve is not listed on Verizon's website for BB devices. Joe Heaton From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:10 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion You're missing the curve off of your list which has a full qwerty keyboard. The 8830 would be my other choice. I don't like the pearl because it's not full qwerty... On Dec 27, 2007 10:06 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Any BB model that people would recommend over others? Our provider lists the following on their site: 7130e Pearl 8130 8703e 8830 World Edition Thanks, Joe Heaton From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:34 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion 1. Yes 2. Yes, excedt BB doesn't do so hot on PDF's yet 3. BB User proof, WM not so much On Dec 27, 2007 9:27 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: I've started a new thread, because my manager is now asking me to create a proposal document for our Director, in order to recommend the best solution. I have a few specific questions that may or may not have been covered in the last thread. 1) Does the BB, if I have BES installed in my server room, allow sync of contacts/tasks/calendar etc. Also, just to be fair and complete, does the WM device have this capability? 2) Does the BB have the same ability to open the same types of attachments as the WM device? 3) Are there any other functionalities that one device has over the other, from an end-user perspective, that would be something I need to know about? I'm sorry if the last question is a bit vague, but this is really my first endeavor in these waters, and I'd just like to have as many real world experiences as possible to draw from to make this decision. I do understand that it's not difficult to support both, but I just need to make sure the endusers are going to be satisfied with the chosen solution. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516
RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion
Cook - well, there ya go Joe - test out your rep ;) From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 12:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I saw that too, but we have a couple here... On Dec 27, 2007 10:45 AM, Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really? - even the blackberry.com http://blackberry.com/ site does not show a Verizon Curve. From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:15 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Talk to your Verizon rep, I don't see them listed but I know they have them because we have users who have them... On Dec 27, 2007 10:11 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Well, unfortunately, the Curve is not listed on Verizon's website for BB devices. Joe Heaton From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:10 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion You're missing the curve off of your list which has a full qwerty keyboard. The 8830 would be my other choice. I don't like the pearl because it's not full qwerty... On Dec 27, 2007 10:06 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Any BB model that people would recommend over others? Our provider lists the following on their site: 7130e Pearl 8130 8703e 8830 World Edition Thanks, Joe Heaton From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:34 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion 1. Yes 2. Yes, excedt BB doesn't do so hot on PDF's yet 3. BB User proof, WM not so much On Dec 27, 2007 9:27 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: I've started a new thread, because my manager is now asking me to create a proposal document for our Director, in order to recommend the best solution. I have a few specific questions that may or may not have been covered in the last thread. 1) Does the BB, if I have BES installed in my server room, allow sync of contacts/tasks/calendar etc. Also, just to be fair and complete, does the WM device have this capability? 2) Does the BB have the same ability to open the same types of attachments as the WM device? 3) Are there any other functionalities that one device has over the other, from an end-user perspective, that would be something I need to know about? I'm sorry if the last question is a bit vague, but this is really my first endeavor in these waters, and I'd just like to have as many real world experiences as possible to draw from to make this decision. I do understand that it's not difficult to support both, but I just need to make sure the endusers are going to be satisfied with the chosen solution. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion
I saw that too, but we have a couple here... On Dec 27, 2007 10:45 AM, Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really? – even the blackberry.com site does not show a Verizon Curve. -- *From:* exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:15 AM *To:* exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject:* Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Talk to your Verizon rep, I don't see them listed but I know they have them because we have users who have them... On Dec 27, 2007 10:11 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Well, unfortunately, the Curve is not listed on Verizon's website for BB devices. Joe Heaton *From:* exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:10 AM *To:* exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject:* Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion You're missing the curve off of your list which has a full qwerty keyboard. The 8830 would be my other choice. I don't like the pearl because it's not full qwerty... On Dec 27, 2007 10:06 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Any BB model that people would recommend over others? Our provider lists the following on their site: 7130e Pearl 8130 8703e 8830 World Edition Thanks, Joe Heaton *From:* exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:34 AM *To:* exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject:* Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion 1. Yes 2. Yes, excedt BB doesn't do so hot on PDF's yet 3. BB User proof, WM not so much On Dec 27, 2007 9:27 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: I've started a new thread, because my manager is now asking me to create a proposal document for our Director, in order to recommend the best solution. I have a few specific questions that may or may not have been covered in the last thread. 1) Does the BB, if I have BES installed in my server room, allow sync of contacts/tasks/calendar etc. Also, just to be fair and complete, does the WM device have this capability? 2) Does the BB have the same ability to open the same types of attachments as the WM device? 3) Are there any other functionalities that one device has over the other, from an end-user perspective, that would be something I need to know about? I'm sorry if the last question is a bit vague, but this is really my first endeavor in these waters, and I'd just like to have as many real world experiences as possible to draw from to make this decision. I do understand that it's not difficult to support both, but I just need to make sure the endusers are going to be satisfied with the chosen solution. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion
Nope. Well the V folks have something like it. _ From: Joe Fox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:49 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion I thought the Curve was an ATT exclusive..although I have been known to be wrong. Joe Fox Systems Administrator The McGuire Group Office# (716) 826-2010 ext: 1172 Mobile# (716) 846-9308 The materials in this e-mail are private and may contain Protected Health Information. If you are not the intended recipient be advised that any unauthorized use, disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender via telephone at 716-829-1978 or by return e-mail. From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Really? - even the blackberry.com site does not show a Verizon Curve. _ From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:15 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion Talk to your Verizon rep, I don't see them listed but I know they have them because we have users who have them... On Dec 27, 2007 10:11 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Well, unfortunately, the Curve is not listed on Verizon's website for BB devices. Joe Heaton From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:10 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion You're missing the curve off of your list which has a full qwerty keyboard. The 8830 would be my other choice. I don't like the pearl because it's not full qwerty... On Dec 27, 2007 10:06 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: Any BB model that people would recommend over others? Our provider lists the following on their site: 7130e Pearl 8130 8703e 8830 World Edition Thanks, Joe Heaton From: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:34 AM To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion 1. Yes 2. Yes, excedt BB doesn't do so hot on PDF's yet 3. BB User proof, WM not so much On Dec 27, 2007 9:27 AM, exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com wrote: I've started a new thread, because my manager is now asking me to create a proposal document for our Director, in order to recommend the best solution. I have a few specific questions that may or may not have been covered in the last thread. 1) Does the BB, if I have BES installed in my server room, allow sync of contacts/tasks/calendar etc. Also, just to be fair and complete, does the WM device have this capability? 2) Does the BB have the same ability to open the same types of attachments as the WM device? 3) Are there any other functionalities that one device has over the other, from an end-user perspective, that would be something I need to know about? I'm sorry if the last question is a bit vague, but this is really my first endeavor in these waters, and I'd just like to have as many real world experiences as possible to draw from to make this decision. I do understand that it's not difficult to support both, but I just need to make sure the endusers are going to be satisfied with the chosen solution. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark
