RE: [expert] solaris disk

[Nickos Yoldassis]

I want to keep the data on th disk!!!



-Original Message-
From:   Ronald J. Yacketta [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, March 09, 2000 5:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: [expert] solaris disk

are you looking to keep the data on the disk?
I have a UltraSCSI sun disk pack with 12 sun 9gb disks (fijitsu actualy)
that works like a charm under linux. just had turn them into ext2 fs's

Ron

Nickos Yoldassis wrote:
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> I have a Mandrake7 machine and want to plug a seciond disk, taken from a Solaris 
>2.5.1 (SUN SPARC) machine.
> 
> does anybody knows if this is possible??
> 
> the command:
> 
> mount -t ufs -o ufstype=sun /dev/sdb1 /mnt/E
> 
> generates an error
> 
> Nickos Yoldassis
> Institute of biomedical Technology
> Greece

RE: [expert] solaris disk

[Nickos Yoldassis]

I get the error "Uknown file system"


-Original Message-
From:   Matt Stegman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Friday, March 10, 2000 5:58 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject:Re: [expert] solaris disk

What error are you getting?
Offhand, arte you sure you have support for UFS and Sun disklabels
compiled into the kernel?

-Matt Stegman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Nickos Yoldassis wrote:

> Hi there, 
> 
> I have a Mandrake7 machine and want to plug a seciond disk, taken from a Solaris 
>2.5.1 (SUN SPARC) machine.
> 
> does anybody knows if this is possible??
> 
> the command:
> 
> mount -t ufs -o ufstype=sun /dev/sdb1 /mnt/E
> 
> generates an error
> 

RE: [expert] solaris disk

[Nickos Yoldassis]

I want to keep the data on th disk!!!

I get the error "Uknown filesystem"


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-Original Message-
From:   Axalon Bloodstone [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, March 09, 2000 11:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: [expert] solaris disk

On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Carl A. Cook wrote:

> Safest is to reformat.
> man mke2fs
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> 
> Nickos Yoldassis wrote:
> 
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I have a Mandrake7 machine and want to plug a seciond disk, taken from a Solaris 
>2.5.1 (SUN SPARC) machine.
> >
> > does anybody knows if this is possible??
> >
> > the command:
> >
> > mount -t ufs -o ufstype=sun /dev/sdb1 /mnt/E
> >
> > generates an error
> >
> > Nickos Yoldassis
> > Institute of biomedical Technology
> > Greece


What is the error? 

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Re: [expert] Printer question

[Frank Arnold]

Also you can write any number of little scripts to direct
fetchmail to get mail from any POP account.

Frank Arnold
==
On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Ron Stodden wrote:

> Vern wrote:
> 
> > I'm back to using Micro$haft Outlook Express because I have three POP mail
> > accounts and have failed to find anything in Linux that will manage all 3.
> > Netscape will only allow multiple email accounts if they are IMAP and not
> > POP.  
> 
> Have you not tried KDE's kmail?  Any number of POP3 accounts.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Ron. [AU] - sent by Linux.
> 

Re: [expert] wheel mouse

[Jean-Louis Debert]

Mage Grimau wrote:
> > > So - where SHOULD I put the imwheel -k line to
> > make it
> > > run automagically?
> > >  > reasons.>
> > >
> > Have you tried putting it in the "Autostart" folder
> > on your
> > desktop?
> >   John
> >
> That will work for KDE, but I was hoping for a "one
> size fits all" solution. I still haven't figured out
> which window manager I like best.


Depending on your kind of wheelmouse, you might be able to 
make the wheel directly recognized in X applications (not
specifically the window manager). This works for me,
with a cheap intellimouse compatible, and I _don't_ use
imwheel at all ... I just put the "ZAxisMapping 4 5" line
in my XF86Config, and it works like a charm for a lot
of applications (including Netscape).

If you want to learn more, point your browser to this
URL: http://www.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/


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[expert] Re: Multiple Email Accounts

[Gary Bunker]

How about any MUA if used with fetchmail?  I use Postilion personally,
but KMail or anything else that can read local mail boxes works well. 
Also, KMail can access multiple accounts internally, so you don't even
need to use fetchmail if it scares you.

> Vern wrote:
> 
> I'm back to using Micro$haft Outlook Express because I have three POP mail
> accounts and have failed to find anything in Linux that will manage all 3.
> Netscape will only allow multiple email accounts if they are IMAP and not
> POP.  
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Re: [expert] List Bitching

[Ramon Gandia]

John Aldrich wrote:
> >
> I think a good compromise would be a WEEKLY posting of the location
> of the FAQ. Especially for the first couple months. Perhaps, after a
> generous period we could slow it down from a weekly to a semi-monthly
> to a monthly posting.
> John

John think about this for a minute.  Just because WE get
used to the posts, and change it to semi-monthly, does not mean
that newbies don't pop up all the time.  I actually think that
DAILY, plus sig files are the way to go.  Most newcomers will
sign up, save the welcome message without reading it (no need
to read it until its time to unsubscribe), lurk for a day or
even a few hours, then ask the QUESTION.  If the alert to the
fax is over 24 hours away, that person is just not going to see
it.  We will then have another WinModem question on the list,
etc.

The suggestions I hear are:

1. Daily postings of LINKS to the FAQ.
2. Weekly or less frequent LINKS to the FAQ.
3. The actual FAQ itself.
4. Signature files appended to all posts with the LINK to FAQ.

The idea being to save bandwidth, improve signal-to-noise ratio
for those that remain here, and reduce the aggravation factor
to newcomers (newbies as well as users of other distros that
have migrated to Mandrake).

I am in favor of 1+4, or just 1 if Mandrake cannot add 4.  

This issue was discussed endlessly in the RedHat list, and the
end result was that RedHat Inc would NOT do anything, therefore
the idea died on the vine.  YOu cannot actually do anything about
this issue unless Mandrake gives at least its tacit consent.  To
do it without their OK would be a good way to Tick the Frogs and
get kicked off the list. :-).



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Re: [expert] Modem Problem

[Ramon Gandia]

"Albert E. Whale" wrote:
> 
> John Aldrich
> > (www.808hi/56k/trouble2.htm is the site I use now-a-days
> > for most 56k modem trouble-shooting.)
> > >
> 
> John,
> 
> THanks for the lead, but I cannot seem to quite get the above site.
> What is the Web Address?

He mistyped it.  http://www.808hi.com/56k/trouble2.htm
It is a good site.

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Re: [expert] troff / .mm -> something modern

[Linda Walsh]

John Aldrich wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 09 Mar 2000, you wrote:
> > I have some old unix docs that were written for troff -mm.  What
> > I'd like to do is convert them to HTML or .doc(WORD) or .wpr (WordPerfect).
> > so I can edit them in modern context.  I can convert them to .ps, or
> > .pdf, but those don't help to go to an editable context.  Anyone
> > kknow of any utils?  I looked on freshmeat, but didn't see anything.
> >
> I don't suppose you can convert to *.rtf can you?
> John
---
troff doesn't know about RTF either...:-/
It's pretty ancient.

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Re: [expert] XFREE86 4.0 is out

[Rich Clark]

On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Nitin Raja Bhatia wrote:

> Xfree 4 is out.
> ftp://ftp.xfree86.org/pub/XFree86/4.0/RELNOTES
> 
> 
> Well, it isn't really officially release, but some ppl were mucking
> around in the xfree ftp server and found it, Let's get those Xfree RPMS
> OUT!
> 
> Raja
>

Let the slashdot effect begin.  Gentlemen, to your ftp clients! 

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Re: [expert] Printer question

[silkythreads]

Hey Vern,
Have you considered setting up 3 different "profiles" in Netscape ?

Ron Stodden wrote:
> 
> Vern wrote:
> 
> > I'm back to using Micro$haft Outlook Express because I have three POP mail
> > accounts and have failed to find anything in Linux that will manage all 3.
> > Netscape will only allow multiple email accounts if they are IMAP and not
> > POP.
> 
> Have you not tried KDE's kmail?  Any number of POP3 accounts.
> 
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> 
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Re: [expert] solaris disk

[Matt Stegman]

What error are you getting?
Offhand, arte you sure you have support for UFS and Sun disklabels
compiled into the kernel?

-Matt Stegman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Nickos Yoldassis wrote:

> Hi there, 
> 
> I have a Mandrake7 machine and want to plug a seciond disk, taken from a Solaris 
>2.5.1 (SUN SPARC) machine.
> 
> does anybody knows if this is possible??
> 
> the command:
> 
> mount -t ufs -o ufstype=sun /dev/sdb1 /mnt/E
> 
> generates an error
> 

Re: [expert] Printer question

[Ron Stodden]

Vern wrote:

> I'm back to using Micro$haft Outlook Express because I have three POP mail
> accounts and have failed to find anything in Linux that will manage all 3.
> Netscape will only allow multiple email accounts if they are IMAP and not
> POP.  

Have you not tried KDE's kmail?  Any number of POP3 accounts.

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Re: [expert] Modem Problem

[Hoyt]

- Original Message -
From: John Aldrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] Modem Problem


> On Thu, 09 Mar 2000, you wrote:
> > John Aldrich
> > > (www.808hi/56k/trouble2.htm is the site I use now-a-days
> > > for most 56k modem trouble-shooting.)
> > Thanks for the lead, but I cannot seem to quite get the above site.
> > What is the Web Address?
> >
> BTW, IP address for the above server is 168.144.5.163.

The .com was missing from the url.

An interesting site - the guy sure can rant when he wants. Also a lot of
stuff on controllerless modems; nothing Linux-y found by me.

A few bits of good advice if you dig deep.

Hoyt


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Re: [expert] Printer question

[Vern]

I don't know about your printer prob but there were some answers to
that.

Thanks Wolfgang, I will be trying your ideas!
Vern

Re: [expert] Printer question

[Vern]

Can't help with the printer but maybe with the mail.  Facing exactly the
same
problem on Mandrake 6.1 I found help on the Noether Linux page

http://www.noether.freeserve.co.uk

which gives very explicit instructions on how to set up "fetchmail" and
"sendmail".  Fetchmail can easily be set up to poll several servers and
handles pop nicely.

Wow!  Thanks Glyn for all the ideas for email will try them all!
Vern

Re: [expert] List Bitching

[Rich Clark]

On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Hoyt wrote:

> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Rich Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 6:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [expert] List Bitching
> 
> 
> 
> > Maybe what the list needs is a FAQ page posted somewhere.  Someone
> > subscribes to the list, they get the nice new welcome note from the list
> > manager that gives them pointers about how to post, what to post and where
> > to look for answers *before* they post the same question that's been asked
> > and answered countless times before.  Everyone else has a FAQ, why don't
> > we?
> >
> 
> This has been suggested before, a volunteer actually wrote a doc about it
> and, as it has happened so many times, the effort was officially ignored.
> Given my irregular correspondence with Mandrake about some of these issues,
> they seem to misunderstand what the users are saying and apply inappropriate
> remedies. Still, they have made significant improvements in documentation
> and support.
> 
> As long as I am writing, let me state that the purposes of this mail list
> could better be served in a discussion forum venue. That would provide an
> easier way to follow threads and be easier to moderate. Many companies
> sponsor their own discussion forums and servers, why not Mandrake?
> 
> And why has Mandrake not done anything more significant on the docs side? I
> gather from this list and the cooker list that Mandrake collectively has a
> predisposition to add the latest gadgets and features, often embracing beta
> code, at the expense of documentation in order to rapidly differentiate
> itself from RedHat (there's some Mandrake corporate angst about that). A
> number of bugs or issued remain unresolved while new packages are added at a
> frenetic pace. On the other hand, I have seen bug fixes be applied within
> minutes of a post to this list or to the cooker list; it's just a matter of
> priorities. Mandrake sets the priorities.
> 
> My suggestion is for the Mandrake users to reclaim their Linux birthright
> and solve the problems themselves. We can do this by supporting Tom at
> MandrakeUser.Org. This support can be accomplished by 1) identifying those
> annoying bugs and suggesting  solutions (and creating patches if possible)
> and 2) writing HOWTOs and documentation. In other words, we should become
> part of the solution.
> 
> Hoyt
> 
> 
> 
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Excellent idea.  I'll think on it a while and see what I can come up with
personally. 

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[Cooker] XFREE86 4.0 is out

[Nitin Raja Bhatia]

Xfree 4 is out.
ftp://ftp.xfree86.org/pub/XFree86/4.0/RELNOTES


Well, it isn't really officially release, but some ppl were mucking
around in the xfree ftp server and found it, Let's get those Xfree RPMS
OUT!

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Re: [expert] Modem Problem

[John Aldrich]

On Thu, 09 Mar 2000, you wrote:
> John Aldrich 
> > (www.808hi/56k/trouble2.htm is the site I use now-a-days
> > for most 56k modem trouble-shooting.)
> > >
> 
> 
> John,
> 
> THanks for the lead, but I cannot seem to quite get the above site. 
> What is the Web Address?
>
BTW, IP address for the above server is 168.144.5.163.
John

Re: [expert] Modem Problem

[John Aldrich]

On Thu, 09 Mar 2000, you wrote:
> John Aldrich 
> > (www.808hi/56k/trouble2.htm is the site I use now-a-days
> > for most 56k modem trouble-shooting.)
> > >
> 
> 
> John,
> 
> THanks for the lead, but I cannot seem to quite get the above site. 
> What is the Web Address?
>
http://www.808hi.com/56k/trouble2.htm. Sorry. I left off the .com.
:-) BTW, that is 8-zero-8hi.com. As in the area code and state
abbreviation for Hawaii. :-) I believe it's an ISP in Hawaii... :-)
John

Re: [expert] List Bitching

[John Aldrich]

On Thu, 09 Mar 2000, you wrote:
> Maybe we can add a signature to the mailing list messages so that everyone
> sees mandrakeuser.org on each e-mail?
> 
Heh. Yeahright. I'm subbed to the KDE list. Do you have any idea
how many times people post there requesting to be taken off the list?
Sheesh...the blasted removal instructions are IN THE FOOTER! People
are just stupid. Unless you post a message with "FAQ" in the subject,
most of 'em won't see it. And most of THOSE won't see the FAQ
message...but a few will.
John

Re: [expert] MIME/Base64 cmdline decoding

[John Aldrich]

On Thu, 09 Mar 2000, you wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, John Aldrich wrote:
> 
> > > Is there a way to decode MIME/Bas64 encoded files on the commandline?  Reason 
>being, I'm playing with a mail editor called CSCMail and it doesn't support decoding 
>attachments yet.
> > > 
> > > Probably really simple, but I've never had to do it before...
> > >
> > have you tried "man uudecode" yet?
> 
> Does that decode MIME/Base64 as well as regular
> uuencoding?  dOh!  Nevermind... I see "-m" in there now.  Thanks for the
> pointer.
> 
:-) Nice to know I can teach you Mandrake type folks something! :-)
Hey, you know what they say, RTFM! ;-P
John

Re: [expert] network question

[John Aldrich]

On Wed, 08 Mar 2000, you wrote:
> >%_I have just installed Mamdrake 7.0, My network admin gave me an static
> ip.
> When I enterned the ip information and the etc. my system couldnt see
> the network.
> 
> So I reloaded my system and selected DHCP. now my system will connect .
> 
> But why is my hostname localhost.localdomain. ?
> How can I name my system it something other than localhost.localdomain.?
> 

Easy. Edit your HOSTNAME file, or run LinuxConf and select your
"network" setup and change it there. I'm *guessing* the problem is
that your system is saying "Hi, I'm 'localhost.localdomain'" and your
gateway is saying "Heck, I don't know anyone by that name. Go away!"
Try configuring your Network and I'm guessing it'll work just fine.
John

Re: [expert] List Bitching

[John Aldrich]

On Thu, 09 Mar 2000, you wrote:
> No daily, please! Monthly, rather.
> 
> Perhaps the message that goes out when one has sucessfully joined the list
> can include a pointer to the FAQ for the benefit of new subscribers. This
> was not done when I joined the list late last year.
> 
> Another way to handle the problem is for the mail list processor to insert
> a line at the top of each message, something to the effect of "Use the
> FAQ, Luke! " should do it.
> 
> 
I think a good compromise would be a WEEKLY posting of the location
of the FAQ. Especially for the first couple months. Perhaps, after a
generous period we could slow it down from a weekly to a semi-monthly
to a monthly posting.
John

RE: [expert] network question

[Andrew Vick]

Run linuxconf from a terminal.  It deals with such setup and other stuff, like 
file systems and user accounts.  Linuxconf is your friend.

To replace the question with one of my own, I'm not really understanding the 
"basic host information" group (that's where you set the host name).  In the 
"host name" box, is that the full name (e.g., "vick.resnet.grinnell.edu") or 
just the computer's name (e.g., "vick")?

-Andrew Vick

>= Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
>I have just installed Mamdrake 7.0, My network admin gave me an static
>ip.
>When I enterned the ip information and the etc. my system couldnt see
>the network.
>
>So I reloaded my system and selected DHCP. now my system will connect .
>
>But why is my hostname localhost.localdomain. ?
>How can I name my system it something other than localhost.localdomain.?

Re: [expert] KDE1 & KDE2 side by side - how?

[WH Bouterse]

Paul Campbell wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I seem to remember that someone posted a document telling how to do this.  I
> was sure I'd save it for future reference, but I can't find it now.  Does
> anyone know what I'm talking about?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> --
> Paul Campbell


Thanks to David Faure for this .
I have not personally configured it yet myself,
as I am having too much fun with kde2 and have let 
version-1 disappear somewhat.


ftp://mandrakesoft.com/pub/david/kde1-and-kde2.txt

William Bouterse

Re: [expert] List Bitching

[Albert E. Whale]

Jean-Michel Dault wrote:
> 
> Maybe we can add a signature to the mailing list messages so that everyone
> sees mandrakeuser.org on each e-mail?
> 
> Jean-Michel Dault
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>
Sounds like a Definte Winner!  I never even knew where the FAQ was until
a week after I signed up on the list.  That would be Perfect!

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Re: lack of documentation (was Re: [expert] Removing supermount)

[Alan Shoemaker]

Vincentthanks.  What was supposed to be on there were some
docs for supermount.  Are they brief enough to post here for
those of us who haven't any access to them?

Alan


Vincent Danen wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> 
> > Axalonthere's a significant thread here that I guess you
> > missed, try the archives.  A group of us has been discussing
> > supermount problems for over a week now and you've not been
> > contributing at all (nor has anyone else from MandrakeSoft).
> > Brian is rightfully upset when you accuse him directly of not
> > careing to learn as should be all of us who have been involved
> > in this thread.  You talk about disc 3 to a bunch of folks who
> > either downloaded an iso or bought a GPL?  Probably no one here
> > has a powerpack that, by the way was only announced as available
> > on February 28th which was less than a week and a half ago.
> 
> Just as an FYI, Disk 3 of the PowerPack is basically contribs, not
> anything more special than that.  I haven't followed the thread either but
> this did catch my attention so just in case you're wondering what's on
> disc 3, that's what it is.
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Re: [expert] GKrellm

[Richard Yevchak]

GKrellm 0.9.5 works fine on my machine.  I used the tarball and nothing went
wrong.

Richard

On Thu, 09 Mar 2000, you wrote:
> Has anyone gotten GKrellm to work under Mandrake 7.0?
> 
> If I attempt to use the tarball of gkrellm, 'make' stops with this
> output:
> 
> gcc -Wall  -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c main.c -o 
>main.o
> gcc -Wall  -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c apm.c -o 
>apm.o
> gcc -Wall  -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c clock.c -o 
>clock.o
> gcc -Wall  -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c cpu.c -o 
>cpu.o
> gcc -Wall  -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c disk.c -o 
>disk.o
> gcc -Wall  -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c fs.c -o fs.o
> gcc -Wall  -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c hostname.c 
>-o hostname.o   o
> gcc -Wall  -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c inet.c -o 
>inet.o
> gcc -Wall  -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c mail.c -o 
>mail.o
> gcc -Wall  -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c meminfo.c -o 
>meminfo.o
> gcc -Wall  -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c net.c -o 
>net.o
> net.c:227: macro `glibtop_get_netload' used with only 2 args
> net.c:267: macro `glibtop_get_netload' used with only 2 args
> net.c:445: macro `glibtop_get_ppp' used with only 2 args
> make: *** [net.o] Error 1
> 
> These macros are apparently internal to the gkrellm install, since I
> can't find them anywhere on my system (locate or manual plundering).
> ---
> Then, if I attempt to install the RPM (trying -U or -i), I get this
> output upon its failure:
> 
> error: failed dependencies:
> libgtop.so.1 is needed by gkrellm-0.9.3-1
> libgtop_common.so.1 is needed by gkrellm-0.9.3-1
> libgtop_sysdeps.so.1 is needed by gkrellm-0.9.3-1
> 
> -- 
> Obvious answer: get the files it says it needs for the RPM install,
> right?  I searched RPMFind.net and I got the package libgtop1.0.7,
> since it was the newest one that had the .so.1 files.  That won't work,
> since it conflicts with the newer libgtop1.1.5 that Mandrake has
> installed.  So, what do I do?  Can I assume that the files libgtop.so
> and libgtop_common.so and libgtop_sysdeps.so can be symlinked as so.1
> and it will work?  Or, will this cause other problems for me?
> 
> Any advice on this would be appreciated.  Thanks.
> 
> 
> ---
> Nil Carborundum Illegitimi
> http://andysocial.com

Re: [expert] Modem Problem

[Albert E. Whale]

John Aldrich 
> (www.808hi/56k/trouble2.htm is the site I use now-a-days
> for most 56k modem trouble-shooting.)
> >


John,

THanks for the lead, but I cannot seem to quite get the above site. 
What is the Web Address?
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Re: [expert] List Bitching

[Ramon Gandia]

Jean-Michel Dault wrote:
> 
> Maybe we can add a signature to the mailing list messages so that everyone
> sees mandrakeuser.org on each e-mail?

Redhat does/did that.  It was at the very end, below the sender's
regular signature with the obligatory ASCII-toons, etc.  Not
too many people paid attention to it.

If you frequent Usenet, or othr lists, they have periodic postings
with Subjects like Mandrake-FAQ.  These are heads-up to readers,
specially newcomers.

As was mentioned, I think that a daily FAQ will easily save
one or more messages a day.  If the Subject is carefully
chosen, it will be easy to filter out (Mandrake and FAQ are
both bad words to filter on.  But maybe Mandrake-O-FAQ might
work.  Procmail users can comment on this.  

But we need to hear from Mandrake, Inc. on this. It is their
list, after all.

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Re: [expert] Removing supermount

[Brian T. Schellenberger]

For me, when it asks me to eject the disk to rescan, it actually goes
ahead and reject it and immediately re-reads it before I can even
re-insert the disk.

And then it fails with the same message again.

However, this problem may not relate to supermount; I get the same
problem when I try to erase a CD-RW drive without supermount (though
not for a CD-R).

On Wed, 08 Mar 2000, you wrote:
| Supermount works fine with my CD-RW.  I've only burned one disk since I
| upgraded but I experienced no problems.  I used cdrecord at the command line. 
| The only thing it had to do was eject the drive once so it could rescan it or
| something like that.
| 
| Richard 
| 
| On Tue, 07 Mar 2000, you wrote:
| > As I gather it, supermount works . . .
| > 
| > .. . . but not for a CD-RW, and my only CD-ROM is a CD-RW.
| > ... . . but not for ext2 floppies, and I tried one of those second.
| > ... . . but not for an LS-120 drive (I don't have one of those, at least).
| > ... . . but not with filesystem of "auto" (which I happen to like).
| > 
| > So my take is that it's not quite "ready for prime time," though if you
| > have a thoroughly conventional system which you use in a thoroughly
| > conventional way . . . well, then, you're running Windows, then, aren't
| > you? . . . I mean, then it would work for you.
| > 
| > I have a somewhat unconventional system and I've been using Unixy
| > systems for nearly 20 years now and I found Supermount just got in
| > my way.  YMMV.
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Re: [expert] partitioning

[Hoyt]

- Original Message -
From: Sheldon Lee Wen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] partitioning


> Mage,
>
> > I installed 6.1 a couple of weeks ago and liked it so
> Why not 7.0 ?
>
> > Is there a utility (like the commercial product
> > PartitionMagic) that will allow me to resize the
> > partition without having to reinstall?
>
> DON'T use PM to resize a linux partition. While they
> apparently have ext2 support I actually tried using it once
> to resize my linux root partition and it screwed up alot
> of files. Their support for ext2 isn't great, unless they've
> fixed it since then.

I am currently evaluating PM 5.0 for a magazine review. Support for ext2
partitions is improved, and they even have a Linux "install" on the CD. I
would recommend PM 5.0 (I too had poor results with 4.01 and lower).

Hoyt


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Re: [expert] List Bitching - some suggestions

[Hoyt]

- Original Message -
From: Jean-Michel Dault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Ramon Gandia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] List Bitching


>
> Maybe we can add a signature to the mailing list messages so that everyone
> sees mandrakeuser.org on each e-mail?
>
> Jean-Michel Dault
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Perhaps you can have the sig point to a www.linuxmandrake.com (or directly
to a www.mandrakeuser.org) page that has 1) a link to mandrakeuser.org 2) a
brief HOWTO on how to search the mail list archives 3) a link to the new
Mandrake tutorial pages 4) a brief HOWTO on how to search DejaNews and 5) a
link to the LDP search engine. You could even put the link to this special
page in the bookmarks for kfm/konqueror and Netscape. It would certainly
help answer a lot of questions.

Hoyt


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RE: [expert] MIME/Base64 cmdline decoding

[Andrew Roberts]

Try: mmencode -d 

Regards, Andrew Roberts

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vincent Danen
Sent: 09 March 2000 22:18
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] MIME/Base64 cmdline decoding


On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, John Aldrich wrote:

> > Is there a way to decode MIME/Bas64 encoded files on the commandline?
Reason being, I'm playing with a mail editor called CSCMail and it doesn't
support decoding attachments yet.
> >
> > Probably really simple, but I've never had to do it before...
> >
> have you tried "man uudecode" yet?

Does that decode MIME/Base64 as well as regular
uuencoding?  dOh!  Nevermind... I see "-m" in there now.  Thanks for the
pointer.

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Re: [expert] fwd: [SAFER 000309.EXP.1.4] StarScheduler (StarOffice)vulnerabilities from Vanja Hrustic

[Jean-Michel Dault]

I'm forwarding this message to the security expert at MandrakeSoft. In the
meantime, there's not much we can do, since Sun did not relase their
source code =(

Jean-Michel Dault
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Mike Fieschko wrote:

> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 07:23:34 -0500 (EST)
> From: Mike Fieschko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [expert] fwd: [SAFER 000309.EXP.1.4] StarScheduler (StarOffice)
vulnerabilities from Vanja Hrustic
> 
> No followups have been posted to the bugtraq list to this message.
> 
> 

Re: [expert] List Bitching

[Jean-Michel Dault]

Maybe we can add a signature to the mailing list messages so that everyone
sees mandrakeuser.org on each e-mail?

Jean-Michel Dault
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Ramon Gandia wrote:

> Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 02:56:20 -0900
> From: Ramon Gandia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [expert] List Bitching
> 
> Rich Clark wrote:
> > 
> > Maybe what the list needs is a FAQ page posted somewhere.  Someone
> > subscribes to the list, they get the nice new welcome note from the list
> > manager that gives them pointers about how to post, what to post and where
> > to look for answers *before* they post the same question that's been asked
> > and answered countless times before.  Everyone else has a FAQ, why don't
> > we?
> 
> We have a FAQ - sort of - at http://www.mandrakeuser.org
> What we need is someone that can set up a Cron job to send an
> email on a daily basis to THIS (and the Newbie) list advertising
> the FAQ.
> 
> This same suggestion was made a year and a half ago on the RedHat
> list, and there was a tremendous outcry against it.  The reasoning
> went that there was too much email messages as it was without
> cluttering it more with a daily "here is the FAQ" message.  Some
> of us thought that one daily message or maybe three times a week,
> would reduce the overall number of messages posted asking
> questions.
> 
> At any rate, over at RedHat, DJB and the powers that be nixed
> the idea.  Perhaps it would be better received at Mandrake.  The
> cron generated email message is trivial to implement.  Whatever
> is done is going to require the approval of Mandrake as this is
> THEIR list.
> 
> 
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> 

Re: [expert] ftp transfers hanging, tcpdump trace shows packets dropping on floor?? (very long)

[Kirk Grier]

Hi Carl - I didn't apparently explain well in the first post - tcpdump
is running on the same machine as the ftp client that wedges. Since
tcpdump sees and decodes the packets they are getting to the machine -
just not to the ftp client, like so;

remote ftp server -> DSL circuit -> LM 6.1 box running ftp client and
tcpdump

AFAIK the correctly incrementing relative bytes reported by tcpdump
indicate that the machine is receiving the traffic. It just stops being
handed to the ftp client. If the NIC was wedging tcpdump would not see
the traffic either, or traffic would be hosed. The relative bytes counts
don't indicate this. And other traffic concurrently running out the DSL
circuit stay up (i.e. a ping to the remote ftp server). And ftp control
comes back just fine at the end of the trace.

Since I don't have any other ideas - you've been the only response -
I'll switch NIC's anyway this weekend.

And I didn't think I was that young :) - Kirk

"Carl A. Cook" wrote:
> 
> > Carl - no, the ftp transfer hangs happens both as a client and a server.
> > The tcpdump trace in the original post is with the machine as a client.
> 
> I meant that particular machine, which served as client in some of your latter
> tests.  You indicated it =doesn't= see packets it should at times.  And I was
> wondering if the =other= machine you're using (hopefully with similar config)
> works with an outside public server with a large download.  This would test
> software.
> 
> I'm an old DECTech from before you were born, and the failure under stress, and
> time randomness looks to me like hardware... either your DSL router or NIC.
> --
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> quantumATaugustmailDOTcom
> 
> Sign the petition at http://www.libranet.com/petition.html
> Help bring us more Linux Drivers

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[expert] 7.0 installation problems

[Stout, Wayne]

Greetings, everyone!

Yes, I'm back with more laptop installation problems. You'd think I'd leave
well enough alone, eh? :)

Anyhue, I downloaded the 70-2 iso, burned the cd, and tried the graphical
install. No dice. Got the "Couldn't connect to socket" X error. Tried the
text install, which seemed to go fine. But, when I boot up into linux, it
refuses to recognise my root password! I can log in as the normal user, but
can't startx. The path statement doesn't include the /usr/X11R6/bin path.
Not a big deal there.

For the record, I'm installing onto an Acer Travelmate 512DX, Celeron 366,
32 meg of ram, Neomagic video chipset, builtin cd and 56k winmodem. Thanks
to everyone's help on the list, I was able to get 6.1 running nicely on this
machine, but stupid me, I wanted to see what all the buzz was about

The biggest problem is the root password. I *know* I have the right
password. I always use this password, and was very careful to make sure I
was typing it in correctly during the setup phase.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Any tips on getting the graphic
installed would be nice, too. :)

Thanks!

Wayne

Re: [expert] List Bitching

[Tony]

if daily saves one message it breaks even, if two then we are well ahead!!
- Original Message -
From: "Charles Curley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] List Bitching


> No daily, please! Monthly, rather.
>
> Perhaps the message that goes out when one has sucessfully joined the list
> can include a pointer to the FAQ for the benefit of new subscribers. This
> was not done when I joined the list late last year.
>
> Another way to handle the problem is for the mail list processor to insert
> a line at the top of each message, something to the effect of "Use the
> FAQ, Luke! " should do it.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 09, 2000 at 02:56:20AM -0900, Ramon Gandia wrote:
> -> Rich Clark wrote:
> -> >
> -> > Maybe what the list needs is a FAQ page posted somewhere.  Someone
> -> > subscribes to the list, they get the nice new welcome note from the
list
> -> > manager that gives them pointers about how to post, what to post and
where
> -> > to look for answers *before* they post the same question that's been
asked
> -> > and answered countless times before.  Everyone else has a FAQ, why
don't
> -> > we?
> ->
> -> We have a FAQ - sort of - at http://www.mandrakeuser.org
> -> What we need is someone that can set up a Cron job to send an
> -> email on a daily basis to THIS (and the Newbie) list advertising
> -> the FAQ.
>
> --
>
> -- C^2
>
> No windows were crashed in the making of this email.
>
> Looking for fine software and/or web pages?
> http://w3.trib.com/~ccurley

Re: [expert] Unreal Tournament...?

[Ryan Robinson]

Aha... ok.  Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.  I remember
hearing something about an open source Unreal Tournament project, but I
could never find the site.  I have a Voodoo 3, so, hopefully I will have
a chance at getting something to work :P  
-Ryan

Richard Yevchak wrote:
> 
> I've gotten Unreal Tournament to run.  If you don't have a Voodoo card (I have
> a TNT2 card), you have a little work ahead of you.  Basically you have to
> download the latest patch and CVS code for UT and SDL (SDL needs Mesa to
> build).  Compile and install. Go to http://OpenUT.sourceforge.net/ for more
> help.  You might also want to check Unreal Tournament.log in the System
> directory for errors.  If all that is not enough, performance isn't that
> great for non-Voodoo cards.  I get about 20 frames per second.  If you do have a
> Voodoo card, try looking at some of the posts on the forum at the OpenUT
> web site.
> 
> Richard
> 
> On Thu, 09 Mar 2000, you wrote:
> > Hi, I've been trying to run Unreal Tournament under Mandrake 7.0, with
> > no luck.  By now, I'm almost convinced that there is something
> > nonstandard about the distribution that won't allow it to run.  The
> > client binary shows the splash screen and exits with *no error message*
> > while the dedicated server exits with a segfault halfway through
> > loading.  Has anyone else out there gotten it to run ok in 7.0?

Re: [expert] GKrellm

[David M. Kufta]

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GKrellm runs fine here version gkrellm-0.9.5-1 This version is available
in Mandrake-Cooker contribs

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while (memory_available){
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make_user_THINK (this_is_an_OS);
gates_bank_balance++;
}

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[expert] RE:

[GAGLIANO, ANGELO]

Title: RE: 





I had the same problem connecting to my jobs network.  If I dial up again it works.  It happens every time  since I installed 7.0

Angelo


   . ~ .
   / V \
  //   \\
 /( )\
  ^` ~ '^ 


Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 2:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 






    Hello,I am a new user of Mandrake 7.0.
   I have now the following Probelm with the call of pppd or of Kppp,
 I am announced as roots:
  I do not get a connection with my Provider, pppd am terminated
   with the following message:


  pppd: The remote system is required to authenticate itself but I
  pppd: couldn't  find any suitable secret (password) for it to use to
do so.
   Configuration:
Mandrake 7
 safety level 2
 AMD K6-2 450


An idea, thanks!

Re: [expert] fetchmail/sendmail and spam?

[Andreas Müller]

> [snip]
> 
> fetchmail: SMTP< 250 XAA00863 Message accepted for delivery
> fetchmail: SMTP> QUIT
> fetchmail: SMTP< 221 localhost.localdomain closing connection
> fetchmail: socket error while fetching from pop3.myprovider.de
> fetchmail: Query status=2
> 

> It's staying in the spool since your box closes the connection before
> telling fetchmail that the mail was accepted.
> 
> Why is sendmail doing a 'QUIT'?

Do U mean that my sendmail is sending a QUIT command to fetchmail? If this is
the case, how to prevent this from happaning? How to stop sendmail quitting the
connection?


TIA


Andreas

[expert] KDE1 & KDE2 side by side - how?

[Paul Campbell]

Hi,

I seem to remember that someone posted a document telling how to do this.  I
was sure I'd save it for future reference, but I can't find it now.  Does
anyone know what I'm talking about?

Thanks,

-- 
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Re: [expert] 7.0 PowerPack iso downloads?

[Alex V Flinsch]

On Thu, 09 Mar 2000, you wrote:
> Nitin Raja Bhatia wrote:
> > 
> > Basicly the advantage of getting a PowerPack is owning a physical manual
> > (paper... reallly!) and getting technical support. You also get a few
> > extra cds one is the basic disc, one is filled with source, the others
> > are samples of mostly commericial applications. I do not know the full
> > details but the linux-mandrake.com site will fill you in.
> ---
> 
>   I was a bit confused on this, then.  My understanding is that
> this contained a disk of freeware/opensource apps as well a commercial
> apps for demo.  I don't need a base distrib -- got that.  Don't need
> a manual, got that.  What I'd like are the other freeware apps Precompiled
> for Mandrake in the -march=pentium manner.  
> 

The powerpack contains 6 disks
disk 1 -- installation disk, same as the iso download
disk 2 -- sources for apps on disk 1
disk 3 -- assorted rpms
disk 4 -- sources for disk 2 (source rpms)
disk 5 -- commercial software / demos, mostly not open source/freeware
disk 6 -- commercial software / demos, once again mot open source or freeware.


If you want the open source apps, either get the source rpms and build them, or
get the binary rpm. You can get most (if not all) from rpmfind.net, many of the
binary rpms there are actually compiled for the i586 (mostly since Mandrake
has the second greatest number of rpm contribs on the server). 

If you want the commercial app demos, many of them are available from the
individual vendors, the only thing the powerpack does is save you the download
time.


The biggest gripe I have with 7.0, is that the howto's are on the contrib disk
3, rather than on the main install disk, like thay have been in the past. 

-- 
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(Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)

Re: [expert] solaris disk

[Axalon Bloodstone]

On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Carl A. Cook wrote:

> Safest is to reformat.
> man mke2fs
> --
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> quantumATaugustmailDOTcom
> 
> Sign the petition at http://www.libranet.com/petition.html
> Help bring us more Linux Drivers
> 
> 
> Nickos Yoldassis wrote:
> 
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I have a Mandrake7 machine and want to plug a seciond disk, taken from a Solaris 
>2.5.1 (SUN SPARC) machine.
> >
> > does anybody knows if this is possible??
> >
> > the command:
> >
> > mount -t ufs -o ufstype=sun /dev/sdb1 /mnt/E
> >
> > generates an error
> >
> > Nickos Yoldassis
> > Institute of biomedical Technology
> > Greece


What is the error? 

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Re: [expert] GKrellm

[Gary Bunker]

Disregard last.  Author of GKrellM has created a new RPM that removes
the dependency problems I noticed.  *sigh*
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Re: [expert] MIME/Base64 cmdline decoding

[Vincent Danen]

On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, Carl A. Cook wrote:

> Why not use KMail, or Messenger if you are running KDE?  Vast improvement over the 
>command-line, and easy.

I'm looking at CSCMail, which is a GTK client written in perl.  I don't
like KMail very much, but I haven't heard of or looked at Messenger
(unless you're referring to Netscape's email client which is horrid).

I still prefer Pine, but CSCMail doesn't seem to support decoding natively
yet.

> Some people don't like html mail,  but I think it's an improvement.

Yeah, I'm not a big fan of HTML mail either.

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Re: [expert] MIME/Base64 cmdline decoding

[Vincent Danen]

On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, John Aldrich wrote:

> > Is there a way to decode MIME/Bas64 encoded files on the commandline?  Reason 
>being, I'm playing with a mail editor called CSCMail and it doesn't support decoding 
>attachments yet.
> > 
> > Probably really simple, but I've never had to do it before...
> >
> have you tried "man uudecode" yet?

Does that decode MIME/Base64 as well as regular
uuencoding?  dOh!  Nevermind... I see "-m" in there now.  Thanks for the
pointer.

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Re: lack of documentation (was Re: [expert] Removing supermount)

[Vincent Danen]

On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, Alan Shoemaker wrote:

> Axalonthere's a significant thread here that I guess you
> missed, try the archives.  A group of us has been discussing
> supermount problems for over a week now and you've not been
> contributing at all (nor has anyone else from MandrakeSoft). 
> Brian is rightfully upset when you accuse him directly of not
> careing to learn as should be all of us who have been involved
> in this thread.  You talk about disc 3 to a bunch of folks who
> either downloaded an iso or bought a GPL?  Probably no one here
> has a powerpack that, by the way was only announced as available
> on February 28th which was less than a week and a half ago.  

Just as an FYI, Disk 3 of the PowerPack is basically contribs, not
anything more special than that.  I haven't followed the thread either but
this did catch my attention so just in case you're wondering what's on
disc 3, that's what it is.

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Re: [expert] using gnupg instead of pgp for signing rpms

[Vincent Danen]

On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Nitin Raja Bhatia wrote:

> I am making some rpms for Mandrake and was reading through the
> mdkrpm-howto and it stated that I should use pgp for signing any rpms I
> produce.
> I was wondering if I could use gnupg instead?

Yup, you sure can.  That's what I do.  Just make sure your ~/.rpmmacros
file looks something like:

%_signature gpg
%_gpg_name  Vincent Danen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
%_gpg_path  /root/.gnupg
%_distribution  Mandrake
%vendor MandrakeSoft

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Re: [expert] GKrellm

[Axalon Bloodstone]

On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Gary Bunker wrote:

> Has anyone gotten GKrellm to work under Mandrake 7.0?
> 
> If I attempt to use the tarball of gkrellm, 'make' stops with this
> output:
> 
> gcc -Wall  -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c main.c -o 
>main.o
> gcc -Wall  -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c apm.c -o 
>apm.o
> gcc -Wall  -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c clock.c -o 
>clock.o
> gcc -Wall  -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c cpu.c -o 
>cpu.o
> gcc -Wall  -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c disk.c -o 
>disk.o
> gcc -Wall  -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c fs.c -o fs.o
> gcc -Wall  -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c hostname.c 
>-o hostname.o   o
> gcc -Wall  -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c inet.c -o 
>inet.o
> gcc -Wall  -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c mail.c -o 
>mail.o
> gcc -Wall  -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c meminfo.c -o 
>meminfo.o
> gcc -Wall  -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c net.c -o 
>net.o
> net.c:227: macro `glibtop_get_netload' used with only 2 args
> net.c:267: macro `glibtop_get_netload' used with only 2 args
> net.c:445: macro `glibtop_get_ppp' used with only 2 args
> make: *** [net.o] Error 1
> 
> These macros are apparently internal to the gkrellm install, since I
> can't find them anywhere on my system (locate or manual plundering).
> ---
> Then, if I attempt to install the RPM (trying -U or -i), I get this
> output upon its failure:
> 
> error: failed dependencies:
> libgtop.so.1 is needed by gkrellm-0.9.3-1
> libgtop_common.so.1 is needed by gkrellm-0.9.3-1
> libgtop_sysdeps.so.1 is needed by gkrellm-0.9.3-1
> 

Snag gkrellm-0.9.5-1mdk.i586.rpm, from your favorite contribs mirror. 

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Re: [expert] List Bitching

[Alan Shoemaker]

Hoytcheck this out if you think they've been idle concerning
docs.

http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/fdoc.php3

Alan


Hoyt wrote:
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Rich Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 6:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [expert] List Bitching
> 
> > Maybe what the list needs is a FAQ page posted somewhere.  Someone
> > subscribes to the list, they get the nice new welcome note from the list
> > manager that gives them pointers about how to post, what to post and where
> > to look for answers *before* they post the same question that's been asked
> > and answered countless times before.  Everyone else has a FAQ, why don't
> > we?
> >
> 
> This has been suggested before, a volunteer actually wrote a doc about it
> and, as it has happened so many times, the effort was officially ignored.
> Given my irregular correspondence with Mandrake about some of these issues,
> they seem to misunderstand what the users are saying and apply inappropriate
> remedies. Still, they have made significant improvements in documentation
> and support.
> 
> As long as I am writing, let me state that the purposes of this mail list
> could better be served in a discussion forum venue. That would provide an
> easier way to follow threads and be easier to moderate. Many companies
> sponsor their own discussion forums and servers, why not Mandrake?
> 
> And why has Mandrake not done anything more significant on the docs side? I
> gather from this list and the cooker list that Mandrake collectively has a
> predisposition to add the latest gadgets and features, often embracing beta
> code, at the expense of documentation in order to rapidly differentiate
> itself from RedHat (there's some Mandrake corporate angst about that). A
> number of bugs or issued remain unresolved while new packages are added at a
> frenetic pace. On the other hand, I have seen bug fixes be applied within
> minutes of a post to this list or to the cooker list; it's just a matter of
> priorities. Mandrake sets the priorities.
> 
> My suggestion is for the Mandrake users to reclaim their Linux birthright
> and solve the problems themselves. We can do this by supporting Tom at
> MandrakeUser.Org. This support can be accomplished by 1) identifying those
> annoying bugs and suggesting  solutions (and creating patches if possible)
> and 2) writing HOWTOs and documentation. In other words, we should become
> part of the solution.
> 
> Hoyt
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Re: [expert] SETI@Home Screensaver

[John Aldrich]

On Thu, 09 Mar 2000, you wrote:
>   I'll add to this -- what would be a nice toy project --
> a shell (perl?) script that starts setiathome and the X display as a 
> screen saver.
> Then, it reads the powersave interval (when the screen turns off), and
> kills the X display (since it really just eats up CPU and makes setiathome
> run slower).  Then in either state, if the user touches anything, it
> kills setiathome (which is fully restartable and restarts where it left
> off next time).
> 
Hmm...have you LOOKED at the xsetiathome documentation? I
glanced at it and seem to recall that there was an option
to use it as a screensaver. Ok. I just went and looked at
the "README.xsetiathome" file. Here's the relevant portion:
===

DESCRIPTION
xsetiathome is a graphical display for setiathome.
To use xsetiathome, you must run setiathome with the -graphics flag.
 
A typical invocation of xsetiathome will look like this:
 
> setiathome -graphics &
> xsetiathome
 
Alternatively, xsetiathome can be executed in screensaver mode,
which requires an external application such as xautolock.
===
Ok. There you go. I don't know what xautolock is, but that
should at least get you started.
John

Re: [expert] Still got my CD burner woes, help please

[Axalon Bloodstone]

On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Trevor Farrell wrote:

> Axalon Bloodstone wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Trevor Farrell wrote:
> >
> >
> > > cdrecord: Warning: controller returns wrong size for CD capabilities
> > > page.
> >
> > You mean this i assume? can you showoutput of 'cdrecord dev=0,0,0 -prcap'
> >
> >
> 
> [root@treble trevor]# cdrecord dev=0,0,0 -prcap
> Cdrecord release 1.8a29 Copyright (C) 1995-1999 Jörg Schilling
> scsidev: '0,0,0'
> scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0
> Using libscg version 'schily-0.1'
> cdrecord: Warning: controller returns wrong size for CD capabilities page.
> Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0
> Response Format: 1
> Vendor_info: 'LG  '
> Identifikation : 'CD-RW CED-8042B '
> Revision   : '1.05' Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW.
> cdrecord: Warning: controller returns wrong size for CD capabilities page.
> Drive capabilities, per page 2A:
[..]

Not as helpful as i was hopeing for. For future reference the drive is
listed under 'Goldstar' not matsumi, and it is one of the
"recommended" drives. Can you reboot the machine with the kernel-linus as
the kernel and try that again plz.
 
> Any help would be much appreciated thanks Axalon.
> 
> PS - I do like Mandrake 7, and would not go back to 6, but this, and my sound
> card blues (which I'm still researching) where my CMI8330 chip worked under
> ver 6 but not (yet) under ver 7 are annoying!
> On the plus side, yes, I like supermount, and ver 7 is the 1st distro to
> automatically get my SiS 6326 video chip right from a graphic install - well
> done!


:) if thats a plee for help i kind need more info, than "it used to work"  

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Re: [expert] troff / .mm -> something modern

[John Aldrich]

On Thu, 09 Mar 2000, you wrote:
> I have some old unix docs that were written for troff -mm.  What
> I'd like to do is convert them to HTML or .doc(WORD) or .wpr (WordPerfect).
> so I can edit them in modern context.  I can convert them to .ps, or
> .pdf, but those don't help to go to an editable context.  Anyone
> kknow of any utils?  I looked on freshmeat, but didn't see anything.
> 
I don't suppose you can convert to *.rtf can you?
John

[expert] network question

[Lee]

I have just installed Mamdrake 7.0, My network admin gave me an static
ip.
When I enterned the ip information and the etc. my system couldnt see
the network.

So I reloaded my system and selected DHCP. now my system will connect .

But why is my hostname localhost.localdomain. ?
How can I name my system it something other than localhost.localdomain.?


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Re: [expert] Printer question

[Glyn Millington]

Can't help with the printer but maybe with the mail.  Facing exactly the same
problem on Mandrake 6.1 I found help on the Noether Linux page

http://www.noether.freeserve.co.uk

which gives very explicit instructions on how to set up "fetchmail" and
"sendmail".  Fetchmail can easily be set up to poll several servers and handles pop 
nicely.

With that you need procmail to deliver your post to the correct boxes - the
important thing is to set procmail as your mail delivery agent in your .fetchmailrc 
file.

And you need  the amazing "Mutt" to read the stuff with - the best mailreader onoffer! 
 (though needs as editor to be seen at its best!) 

The best place for guidance on procmail and Mutt, apart from their home pages
is 
hhtp://www.roadrunner.swansea.linux.org.uk/~hobbit/cave.html.

Telsa has there set-up files for both procmail and mutt which are VERY heavly
annotated and enable even someone like me to them up.  

Hope this will release you from Windows!

ATB

Glyn

By the way - almost forgot - all these wonderful programs are on the Mandrake 6.1 CD!


On Thu, Mar 09, 2000 at 09:46:54AM -0500, thus spake Vern:
> Hello All,
>  I have been running Mandrake 6.1 (my first try at Linux) for
> approximately two weeks now and have enjoyed learning about it.  I have a
> printer that has recently
> I'm back to using Micro$haft Outlook Express because I have three POP mail
> accounts and have failed to find anything in Linux that will manage all 3.
> Netscape will only allow multiple email accounts if they are IMAP and not
> POP.  So the transition is taking a while to get going.  I did manage to get

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Re: [expert] wheel mouse

[Mage Grimau]

--- John Aldrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Mar 2000, you wrote:
> > Following directions I got from mandrakeuser.org,
> I am
> > able to get my wheel mouse to work correctly under
> X
> > excEPT i have to open konsole and type "imwheel
> -k" at
> > the start of every session. The instructions I got
> > said adding that line to .xinitrc would do it
> > automatically, but it doesn't.
> > .xinitrc doesn't even seem to do anything - I have
> 5
> > uusers set up and only root even HAS an .xinitrc -
> and
> > when I delete it, it has no effect - I reboots and
> > everything starts and runs exactly as it did
> before.
> > (the only thing in it was "exec ").
> > So - where SHOULD I put the imwheel -k line to
> make it
> > run automagically?
> >  reasons.>
> > 
> Have you tried putting it in the "Autostart" folder
> on your
> desktop?
>   John
> 
That will work for KDE, but I was hoping for a "one
size fits all" solution. I still haven't figured out
which window manager I like best. 


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Re: [expert] List Bitching

[Charles Curley]

No daily, please! Monthly, rather.

Perhaps the message that goes out when one has sucessfully joined the list
can include a pointer to the FAQ for the benefit of new subscribers. This
was not done when I joined the list late last year.

Another way to handle the problem is for the mail list processor to insert
a line at the top of each message, something to the effect of "Use the
FAQ, Luke! " should do it.


On Thu, Mar 09, 2000 at 02:56:20AM -0900, Ramon Gandia wrote:
-> Rich Clark wrote:
-> > 
-> > Maybe what the list needs is a FAQ page posted somewhere.  Someone
-> > subscribes to the list, they get the nice new welcome note from the list
-> > manager that gives them pointers about how to post, what to post and where
-> > to look for answers *before* they post the same question that's been asked
-> > and answered countless times before.  Everyone else has a FAQ, why don't
-> > we?
-> 
-> We have a FAQ - sort of - at http://www.mandrakeuser.org
-> What we need is someone that can set up a Cron job to send an
-> email on a daily basis to THIS (and the Newbie) list advertising
-> the FAQ.

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Re: [expert] Still got my CD burner woes, help please

[Trevor Farrell]

Axalon Bloodstone wrote:

> On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Trevor Farrell wrote:
>
>
> > cdrecord: Warning: controller returns wrong size for CD capabilities
> > page.
>
> You mean this i assume? can you showoutput of 'cdrecord dev=0,0,0 -prcap'
>
>

[root@treble trevor]# cdrecord dev=0,0,0 -prcap
Cdrecord release 1.8a29 Copyright (C) 1995-1999 Jörg Schilling
scsidev: '0,0,0'
scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0
Using libscg version 'schily-0.1'
cdrecord: Warning: controller returns wrong size for CD capabilities page.
Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0
Response Format: 1
Vendor_info: 'LG  '
Identifikation : 'CD-RW CED-8042B '
Revision   : '1.05' Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW.
cdrecord: Warning: controller returns wrong size for CD capabilities page.
Drive capabilities, per page 2A:
Does read CD-R media
Does write CD-R media
Does read CD-RW media
Does write CD-RW media
Does not read DVD-ROM media
Does not read DVD-R media
Does not write DVD-R media
Does not read DVD-RAM media
Does not writeDVD-RAM media
Does support test writing
Does read Mode 2 Form 1 blocks
Does read Mode 2 Form 2 blocks
Does read digital audio blocks
Does restart non-streamed digital audio reads accurately
Does read multi-session CDs
Does read fixed-packet CD media using Method 2
Does not read CD bar code
Does read R-W subcode information
Does notreturn R-W subcode de-interleaved and error-corrected
Does return CD media catalog number
Does return CD ISRC information
Does support C2 error pointers
Does not deliver composite A/V data
Does play audio CDs
Number of volume control levels: 255
Does support individual volume control setting for each channel
Does support independent mute setting for each channel
Does not support digital output on port 1
Does not support digital output on port 2
Loading mechanism type: tray
Does support ejection of CD via START/STOP command
Does not lock media on power up via prevent jumper
Does allow media to be locked in the drive via PREVENT/ALLOW command
Is not currently in a media-locked state
Does not have load-empty-slot-in-changer feature
Does not support Individual Disk Present feature
Maximum read  speed in kB/s: 4234
Current read  speed in kB/s: 4234
Maximum write speed in kB/s: 0
Current write speed in kB/s: 706
Buffer size in KB: 2048
[root@treble trevor]#

Any help would be much appreciated thanks Axalon.

PS - I do like Mandrake 7, and would not go back to 6, but this, and my sound
card blues (which I'm still researching) where my CMI8330 chip worked under
ver 6 but not (yet) under ver 7 are annoying!
On the plus side, yes, I like supermount, and ver 7 is the 1st distro to
automatically get my SiS 6326 video chip right from a graphic install - well
done!

Re: [expert] wheel mouse

[Gary Bunker]

Put it in the Autostart folder if you're using KDE (which it sounds
like you are).

On  9 Mar, Mage Grimau wrote:
> Following directions I got from mandrakeuser.org, I am
> able to get my wheel mouse to work correctly under X
> excEPT i have to open konsole and type "imwheel -k" at
> the start of every session. The instructions I got
> said adding that line to .xinitrc would do it
> automatically, but it doesn't.
> So - where SHOULD I put the imwheel -k line to make it
> run automagically?

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Re: [expert] wheel mouse

[Carl A. Cook]

Global startup commands in:
/etc/rc.d/rc.local

Didn't know you were supposed to use -k.  Maybe this is why mine didn't
work.
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Mage Grimau wrote:

> Following directions I got from mandrakeuser.org, I am
> able to get my wheel mouse to work correctly under X
> excEPT i have to open konsole and type "imwheel -k" at
> the start of every session. The instructions I got
> said adding that line to .xinitrc would do it
> automatically, but it doesn't.
> .xinitrc doesn't even seem to do anything - I have 5
> users set up and only root even HAS an .xinitrc - and
> when I delete it, it has no effect - I reboots and
> everything starts and runs exactly as it did before.
> (the only thing in it was "exec ").
> So - where SHOULD I put the imwheel -k line to make it
> run automagically?
> 
>
> Thanks
>
> =
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> Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
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Re: [expert] wheel mouse

[John Aldrich]

On Thu, 09 Mar 2000, you wrote:
> Following directions I got from mandrakeuser.org, I am
> able to get my wheel mouse to work correctly under X
> excEPT i have to open konsole and type "imwheel -k" at
> the start of every session. The instructions I got
> said adding that line to .xinitrc would do it
> automatically, but it doesn't.
> .xinitrc doesn't even seem to do anything - I have 5
> uusers set up and only root even HAS an .xinitrc - and
> when I delete it, it has no effect - I reboots and
> everything starts and runs exactly as it did before.
> (the only thing in it was "exec ").
> So - where SHOULD I put the imwheel -k line to make it
> run automagically?
> 
> 
Have you tried putting it in the "Autostart" folder on your
desktop?
John

Re: [expert] Modem Problem

[John Aldrich]

On Thu, 09 Mar 2000, you wrote:
> My terminal servers are Livingston Portmaster PM3.  They
> use Lucent chipsets.  Their protocols are K56Flex/V.90.  The
> server will tell the client first to try V.90.  That is the
> default and is shown in the logs.
>
Ahh...Ok. Gotcha. I forgot you use the PM3s. We use an
Ascend product here (Max TNT) so we ALWAYS have trouble
with USR products and have to tell clients to turn OFF the
X2 protocol, as it seems they will have NOTHING but
problems connecting unless they disable X2
(www.808hi/56k/trouble2.htm is the site I use now-a-days
for most 56k modem trouble-shooting.)
>
> I have never really seen any K56Flex connections.  The code 
> for this is rather old now, and the K56Flex and the Robbed
> Bit signalling/D4/AMI/CT1 used by the Telephone Company in
> their DMS-10 Nortel switch is not conducive to their working.
> There are worse switches, I understand from some ISP's that
> what their phone company uses has never allowed any of the
> 56K protocols.  This all has to do with how the phone company
> changes the signal from Analog to Digital in their Codecs.
>
OUR problem is that our LEC has us on a switch with copper
instead of fiber like the original work order specified,
and the switch we're on is KNOWN to have problems... *SIGH*
We just encourage most of our users to get ISDN, because it
either works or it doesn't. There's no in-between like with
analog modems. Plus they get faster connects & better
throughput with an ISDN router. :-)
>
> The best of the WinModems, for what it is worth, is the Lucent.
> They are now better than the US Robotics WinModem.  The Lucent
> needs a driver of Version 5.66 or better.  With the new driver
> it is a good performer.
>
I'll keep that in mind. I still don't like WinModems,
though. :-)
> 
> Such is the life of an ISP.
> 
:-) Yep. Then again, there's the days you walk in and your
main machine is locked up. :-(
John

[expert] GKrellm

[Gary Bunker]

Has anyone gotten GKrellm to work under Mandrake 7.0?

If I attempt to use the tarball of gkrellm, 'make' stops with this
output:

gcc -Wall  -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c main.c -o 
main.o
gcc -Wall  -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c apm.c -o apm.o
gcc -Wall  -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c clock.c -o 
clock.o
gcc -Wall  -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c cpu.c -o cpu.o
gcc -Wall  -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c disk.c -o 
disk.o
gcc -Wall  -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c fs.c -o fs.o
gcc -Wall  -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c hostname.c -o 
hostname.o   o
gcc -Wall  -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c inet.c -o 
inet.o
gcc -Wall  -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c mail.c -o 
mail.o
gcc -Wall  -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c meminfo.c -o 
meminfo.o
gcc -Wall  -O2 `gtk-config --cflags` `imlib-config --cflags-gdk` -c net.c -o net.o
net.c:227: macro `glibtop_get_netload' used with only 2 args
net.c:267: macro `glibtop_get_netload' used with only 2 args
net.c:445: macro `glibtop_get_ppp' used with only 2 args
make: *** [net.o] Error 1

These macros are apparently internal to the gkrellm install, since I
can't find them anywhere on my system (locate or manual plundering).
---
Then, if I attempt to install the RPM (trying -U or -i), I get this
output upon its failure:

error: failed dependencies:
libgtop.so.1 is needed by gkrellm-0.9.3-1
libgtop_common.so.1 is needed by gkrellm-0.9.3-1
libgtop_sysdeps.so.1 is needed by gkrellm-0.9.3-1

-- 
Obvious answer: get the files it says it needs for the RPM install,
right?  I searched RPMFind.net and I got the package libgtop1.0.7,
since it was the newest one that had the .so.1 files.  That won't work,
since it conflicts with the newer libgtop1.1.5 that Mandrake has
installed.  So, what do I do?  Can I assume that the files libgtop.so
and libgtop_common.so and libgtop_sysdeps.so can be symlinked as so.1
and it will work?  Or, will this cause other problems for me?

Any advice on this would be appreciated.  Thanks.


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Re: [expert] WG: FVWM2

[Carl A. Cook]

> > I've installd FVWM2 on mandrake 7.0
> > after a fev houres fvwm2 lacks to react on clicks to the window-controll
> > (iconify, raise, close, resize) but it still works via the menue.
> >
> > After reinstalling fvwm somtimes the problem is fixed.
> >
> > Is this a possible vmware error?
>

> I don't know much about fvwm, but why do you think, that the behaviour you
> described has something to do with _VMWARE_ ?

I think he's associated the abbreviation for the window manager.

Juergen, FVWM2 is a window manager that controls your display in a particular
style.

VMware is entirely different; it's software that lets you install Windows and
run it =as=a=window=in=Linux=.  In other words, Linux as the base OS and
Windows in a Linux window so you can run those pesky Windows apps in Linux!
Works good, but a bit slow.

Be advised, FVWM & -2 are rather old and very few people run them, so you will
have trouble with support.  Recommend KDE.  (Gnome still too buggy)
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Re: [expert] Unreal Tournament...?

[Richard Yevchak]

I've gotten Unreal Tournament to run.  If you don't have a Voodoo card (I have
a TNT2 card), you have a little work ahead of you.  Basically you have to
download the latest patch and CVS code for UT and SDL (SDL needs Mesa to
build).  Compile and install. Go to http://OpenUT.sourceforge.net/ for more
help.  You might also want to check Unreal Tournament.log in the System
directory for errors.  If all that is not enough, performance isn't that
great for non-Voodoo cards.  I get about 20 frames per second.  If you do have a
Voodoo card, try looking at some of the posts on the forum at the OpenUT
web site.  

Richard

On Thu, 09 Mar 2000, you wrote:
> Hi, I've been trying to run Unreal Tournament under Mandrake 7.0, with
> no luck.  By now, I'm almost convinced that there is something
> nonstandard about the distribution that won't allow it to run.  The
> client binary shows the splash screen and exits with *no error message*
> while the dedicated server exits with a segfault halfway through
> loading.  Has anyone else out there gotten it to run ok in 7.0?
> 
> Ryan

Re: [expert] ftp transfers hanging, tcpdump trace shows packets dropping on floor?? (very long)

[Carl A. Cook]

> Carl - no, the ftp transfer hangs happens both as a client and a server.
> The tcpdump trace in the original post is with the machine as a client.

I meant that particular machine, which served as client in some of your latter
tests.  You indicated it =doesn't= see packets it should at times.  And I was
wondering if the =other= machine you're using (hopefully with similar config)
works with an outside public server with a large download.  This would test
software.

I'm an old DECTech from before you were born, and the failure under stress, and
time randomness looks to me like hardware... either your DSL router or NIC.
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[expert] Running OSF Motif from KDE under Mandrake Linux 6.0

[FreeNet]

Running OSF Motif from KDE under Mandrake Linux 6.0 (PC Answers fixed
distribution)

Can anyone help?

I bought commercial Motif SWIM 2.0 for Linux in 1996 from Lasermoon who are
sadly not trading now. It worked well with Slackware Linux 3.0 which could
unload itself and execute alternative window managers. I developed some
useful OpenGL software with this configuration.

I have tried in vain to run Motif under KDE. I noted in KDE documentation
that:
kwmcom go:

might work where I used motif as  .

SWIM documentation suggests that "simply typing mwm &" in an xterm would
boot Motif. This did not work under Slackware. However it was possible to
boot Motif under "other windows manager" menu. SWIM  insists that the
current (e.g. KDE) manager must be stopped before starting Motif manager.

I have looked at /usr/share/config/kdmrc for clues. How does one make KDE
aware of other windows managers and is there a compliance issue here? Maybe
things could be resolved in "startx" as a last resort.

Your expertise will be most welcome,

Regards,

Gerry

Re: [expert] Printer question

[Wolfgang Bornath]

Vern wrote:
> 
> documentation available on my hard drive, CD, and online.  But none of that
> is available when you are staring at a command prompt, I needed something in
> print to refer to when conversing with the penguin!

I don't know about your printer prob but there were some answers to
that.

How to go on from the command prompt?
Punch in "mc" (without quotes) and hit Enter. You'll get the midnight
commander on screen which looks and works just like the old Norton
Commander in DOS. From there you can read all the docs on your harddisk,
on your CDs too (you've to mount them first - see "man mount") by going
to the doc with your cursor and hit F3.

Start to learn and you'll make new and wonderful discoveries each coming
day.
That's the way I started some time ago. Still do some roaming around in
the doc folders every now and then.

wobo
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Re: [expert] wheel mouse

[Wolfgang Bornath]

Mage Grimau wrote:
> 
> So - where SHOULD I put the imwheel -k line to make it
> run automagically?

You may create a imwheel.lnk and put it in the autostart folder for each
user who wants it working. That covers the KDE sessions.

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[expert] troff / .mm -> something modern

[Linda Walsh]

I have some old unix docs that were written for troff -mm.  What
I'd like to do is convert them to HTML or .doc(WORD) or .wpr (WordPerfect).
so I can edit them in modern context.  I can convert them to .ps, or
.pdf, but those don't help to go to an editable context.  Anyone
know of any utils?  I looked on freshmeat, but didn't see anything.

Thanks,
-linda

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Re: [expert] List Bitching

[Richard Yevchak]

I think advertising the existence of a LM FAQ is a good idea.

Richard

On Thu, 09 Mar 2000, you wrote:
> Rich Clark wrote:
> > 
> > Maybe what the list needs is a FAQ page posted somewhere.  Someone
> > subscribes to the list, they get the nice new welcome note from the list
> > manager that gives them pointers about how to post, what to post and where
> > to look for answers *before* they post the same question that's been asked
> > and answered countless times before.  Everyone else has a FAQ, why don't
> > we?
> 
> We have a FAQ - sort of - at http://www.mandrakeuser.org
> What we need is someone that can set up a Cron job to send an
> email on a daily basis to THIS (and the Newbie) list advertising
> the FAQ.
> 
> This same suggestion was made a year and a half ago on the RedHat
> list, and there was a tremendous outcry against it.  The reasoning
> went that there was too much email messages as it was without
> cluttering it more with a daily "here is the FAQ" message.  Some
> of us thought that one daily message or maybe three times a week,
> would reduce the overall number of messages posted asking
> questions.
> 
> At any rate, over at RedHat, DJB and the powers that be nixed
> the idea.  Perhaps it would be better received at Mandrake.  The
> cron generated email message is trivial to implement.  Whatever
> is done is going to require the approval of Mandrake as this is
> THEIR list.
> 
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Re: [expert] SETI@Home Screensaver

[Linda Walsh]

Sevatio Octavio wrote:
> 
> How would run SETI@Home as a screensaver for KDE?
> 
> Seve
---
I'll add to this -- what would be a nice toy project --
a shell (perl?) script that starts setiathome and the X display as a 
screen saver.
Then, it reads the powersave interval (when the screen turns off), and
kills the X display (since it really just eats up CPU and makes setiathome
run slower).  Then in either state, if the user touches anything, it
kills setiathome (which is fully restartable and restarts where it left
off next time).

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Re: [expert] 7.0 PowerPack iso downloads?

[Linda Walsh]

Nitin Raja Bhatia wrote:
> 
> Basicly the advantage of getting a PowerPack is owning a physical manual
> (paper... reallly!) and getting technical support. You also get a few
> extra cds one is the basic disc, one is filled with source, the others
> are samples of mostly commericial applications. I do not know the full
> details but the linux-mandrake.com site will fill you in.
---

I was a bit confused on this, then.  My understanding is that
this contained a disk of freeware/opensource apps as well a commercial
apps for demo.  I don't need a base distrib -- got that.  Don't need
a manual, got that.  What I'd like are the other freeware apps Precompiled
for Mandrake in the -march=pentium manner.  

SuSE's releases do something similar in their base distrib
as Mandrake does in it's powerpack.  They have 3 CD's that contain
the base distrib & freeware apps (so it's like 1 base CD and 2 app CD's,
'cept that they are all mixed together into 3).  Then they have a 
4th CD that has "pay-ware" stuff on it -- demo versions of various
products that you need to pay to get fully-operating versions, then
a CD with documentation, and a 6th CD with source.  All for about $60
Retail -- including a big fat manual that I think I looked at once
while the install was running cuz I was bored.  (I have more than one
system counting work systems).  

So what I'm looking for are those "2-CD's worth" of extra
apps/freeware.  

I also recently installed Corel in a VMware machine -- they
really have a tiny/toy distrib.  Probably best word processor available
for Linux, but the distrib was so 'toy'.  Really meant to be a WIN98
replacement -- with about as much flexibility and security -- probably
great for my parents.

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Re: [expert] solaris disk

[Carl A. Cook]

Safest is to reformat.
man mke2fs
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Nickos Yoldassis wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> I have a Mandrake7 machine and want to plug a seciond disk, taken from a Solaris 
>2.5.1 (SUN SPARC) machine.
>
> does anybody knows if this is possible??
>
> the command:
>
> mount -t ufs -o ufstype=sun /dev/sdb1 /mnt/E
>
> generates an error
>
> Nickos Yoldassis
> Institute of biomedical Technology
> Greece

RE: [expert] wheel mouse

[Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SWS]

I use KDE and just put it in my Autostart folder.

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-Original Message-
From: Mage Grimau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 12:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [expert] wheel mouse


Following directions I got from mandrakeuser.org, I am
able to get my wheel mouse to work correctly under X
excEPT i have to open konsole and type "imwheel -k" at
the start of every session. The instructions I got
said adding that line to .xinitrc would do it
automatically, but it doesn't.
.xinitrc doesn't even seem to do anything - I have 5
users set up and only root even HAS an .xinitrc - and
when I delete it, it has no effect - I reboots and
everything starts and runs exactly as it did before.
(the only thing in it was "exec ").
So - where SHOULD I put the imwheel -k line to make it
run automagically?


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Re: [expert] partitioning

[Sheldon Lee Wen]

Mage,

> I installed 6.1 a couple of weeks ago and liked it so
Why not 7.0 ?

> Is there a utility (like the commercial product
> PartitionMagic) that will allow me to resize the
> partition without having to reinstall?

DON'T use PM to resize a linux partition. While they
apparently have ext2 support I actually tried using it once
to resize my linux root partition and it screwed up alot
of files. Their support for ext2 isn't great, unless they've
fixed it since then. 

The other option is to just create a new partition for say 
an existing directory, say /usr/local or something. I don't
know off hand if you'll run into any problems doing it for
/usr itself though. Then copy (probably with cp -a) 
everything in your /??? to the new
partition, rename /??? to /???.old, mount the new partition
to /??? then you can rm -R -f /???.old  if it's something 
that's not vital you could just move it instead of copying it.

Cheers,
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[expert] wheel mouse

[Mage Grimau]

Following directions I got from mandrakeuser.org, I am
able to get my wheel mouse to work correctly under X
excEPT i have to open konsole and type "imwheel -k" at
the start of every session. The instructions I got
said adding that line to .xinitrc would do it
automatically, but it doesn't.
.xinitrc doesn't even seem to do anything - I have 5
users set up and only root even HAS an .xinitrc - and
when I delete it, it has no effect - I reboots and
everything starts and runs exactly as it did before.
(the only thing in it was "exec ").
So - where SHOULD I put the imwheel -k line to make it
run automagically?


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[expert] partitioning

[Mage Grimau]

I installed 6.1 a couple of weeks ago and liked it so
much I made it my default OS. unfortunately, a friend
had suggested making the partition only 2G, saying I
wouldn't need more than that. Oops. He was wrong.
Is there a utility (like the commercial product
PartitionMagic) that will allow me to resize the
partition without having to reinstall? I've still got
6G left to play with but already have 4 primary
partitions, so I can't make a new one.

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Re: [expert] Printer question

[Rial Juan]

On Mar 9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hello All,
>  I have been running Mandrake 6.1 (my first try at Linux) for
> approximately two weeks now and have enjoyed learning about it.  I have a
> printer that has recently
> gone berserk and starts printing a preloaded text  from somewhere.  I don't
> know what "pool, queue,stack,buffer, or list" it is reading from, it has
> survived many bootup cycles and always comes up printing this text.  Where
> might I purge this print job?

lpq shows the current print queue; lprm %n deletes the printjob with job number
%n (ok, just in case you're a total computer newbie: %n is not to be typed
literal; it stands for a number. Like "x" in math ;)

You might also check the directory /var/spool/lpd to see if there are still some
printjobs scheduled, but lpq should do the trick.

> I'm back to using Micro$haft Outlook Express because I have three POP mail
> accounts and have failed to find anything in Linux that will manage all 3.
> Netscape will only allow multiple email accounts if they are IMAP and not
> POP.  So the transition is taking a while to get going.

Try fetchmail. You can search it on http://freshmeat.net, but I think it came
included with the 7.0-2 CD. Not sure since I don't use it. Don't know if it
comes on the 6.1 CD as well.

> I did manage to get
> "X" going after collecting all the parts and pieces from Intel to use the
> i810 chipset.  I still have a wheelmouse and a sound card to configure,
> probably have to buy a "real" soundcard since my modem/soundcard "unit"
> won't work.  I did breakdown and buy a "real" external modem since Hewlett
> Packard didn't include any ISA slots on their ASUS "Hawk" motherboard.  It's
> been a long expensive ride so far for my free OS.

Yup, well. The OS is free; the CD it came on, and the hardware it runs on are
usually not. Fact is that when you intend buy a new computer to run linux on,
you better check if all hardware is supported.

> I did get about $80.00 of
> books to document the features of this OS.  I had all the computerized
> documentation available on my hard drive, CD, and online.  But none of that
> is available when you are staring at a command prompt, I needed something in
> print to refer to when conversing with the penguin!

Uhhm... At the command prompt you can use 'man' to check the manuals (for
example: "man X", to see the X manual) and there's a console webbrowser for the
html-help as well: it's called lynx. Ok, you'll miss out on the pictures, and it
doesn't handle frames (and probably never will) but to view the html-docs on a
CD it usually works nice enough.

> Thanks for listening to the rantings and ravings of a newcomer!
> Vern

No problemmo. At least you're to-the-point, unlike my mom. *grin*


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RE: [expert] WG: FVWM2

[Tobias Kahre]

On 09-Mar-00 Grojer Juergen wrote:

> I've installd FVWM2 on mandrake 7.0
> after a fev houres fvwm2 lacks to react on clicks to the window-controll
> (iconify, raise, close, resize) but it still works via the menue.
> 
> After reinstalling fvwm somtimes the problem is fixed. 
> 
> Is this a possible vmware error?
> please help me, i've no further ideas for fixing this problem.

Hi Juergen,

I don't know much about fvwm, but why do you think, that the behaviour you
described has something to do with _VMWARE_ ?


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Re: [expert] ftp transfers hanging, tcpdump trace shows packets dropping on floor?? (very long)

[Kirk Grier]

Carl - no, the ftp transfer hangs happens both as a client and a server.
The tcpdump trace in the original post is with the machine as a client. 

I thought about it being a NIC issue (or a module / driver NIC issue)
but since tcpdump sees the packet(s) isn't the packet being passed up
through the NIC driver to the kernel??

If all else fails I will probably swap the NIC just to see if the
behavior changes. - Kirk

"Carl A. Cook" wrote:
> 
> I had a problem similar to this, and it turned out to be a bad SMC NIC.  I
> say hardware on the client.  Does the server machine work OK as client to a
> public server?
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Hi -  I recently attempted to transfer a +50MB file over my DSL line to
> > my 6.1 box. The transfer repeatedly hung somewhere after 8MB was
> > transfered. I may get 9MB, I may get 40MB before the hang. The partial
> > file is not resumable once the hang happens. Whereas if I kill the
> > client during the transfer the partial file is resumable.
> >
> > While hung netstat reports the session as ESTABLISHED. The session
> > remains in this state until the ftp server idle timeout hits or
> > I kill the client.
> >
> > This hang happens whether using a remote ftp client putting to the ftp
> > server on my LM6.1 server, using an ftp client on the LM6.1 box to get
> > files from a remote ftp server, or from a ws_ftp client on W98SE behind
> > my LM6.1 box when IP MASQ is running. Happens with 2.2.13-7mdk,
> > 2.2.9-27mdk and 2.2.13-22mdk on the 6.1 box. I don't know when this
> > broke, it used to work. Maybe post my 6.0 to 6.1 upgrade?

Re: [expert] List Bitching

[Hoyt]

- Original Message -
From: Rich Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 6:04 AM
Subject: Re: [expert] List Bitching



> Maybe what the list needs is a FAQ page posted somewhere.  Someone
> subscribes to the list, they get the nice new welcome note from the list
> manager that gives them pointers about how to post, what to post and where
> to look for answers *before* they post the same question that's been asked
> and answered countless times before.  Everyone else has a FAQ, why don't
> we?
>

This has been suggested before, a volunteer actually wrote a doc about it
and, as it has happened so many times, the effort was officially ignored.
Given my irregular correspondence with Mandrake about some of these issues,
they seem to misunderstand what the users are saying and apply inappropriate
remedies. Still, they have made significant improvements in documentation
and support.

As long as I am writing, let me state that the purposes of this mail list
could better be served in a discussion forum venue. That would provide an
easier way to follow threads and be easier to moderate. Many companies
sponsor their own discussion forums and servers, why not Mandrake?

And why has Mandrake not done anything more significant on the docs side? I
gather from this list and the cooker list that Mandrake collectively has a
predisposition to add the latest gadgets and features, often embracing beta
code, at the expense of documentation in order to rapidly differentiate
itself from RedHat (there's some Mandrake corporate angst about that). A
number of bugs or issued remain unresolved while new packages are added at a
frenetic pace. On the other hand, I have seen bug fixes be applied within
minutes of a post to this list or to the cooker list; it's just a matter of
priorities. Mandrake sets the priorities.

My suggestion is for the Mandrake users to reclaim their Linux birthright
and solve the problems themselves. We can do this by supporting Tom at
MandrakeUser.Org. This support can be accomplished by 1) identifying those
annoying bugs and suggesting  solutions (and creating patches if possible)
and 2) writing HOWTOs and documentation. In other words, we should become
part of the solution.

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[expert] Air mdksecure, and VMware Install Problem

[Carl A. Cook]

> > For those who haven't looked in to it, the default kernel run when you
> > install Air server:high is mdklinus, which is just a plain vanilla as if
> > downloaded from kernel.org.
>
> you may have a bug there, what did the original lilo.conf look like? All
> server installs should have the secure kernel IIRC

Original LILO (1st entry) pointed to /boot/vmlinuz which is a symlink
that
points to vmlinuz-2.2.14-1mdklinus.

>
> When you did the 'make mrproper' you deleted the
> modversions-secure.h, you'll need to reinstall the kernel-headers to get
> that back. Then you can verify that /boot/kernel.h indicates the right
> kernel for include/linux/modversions.h

Thanks Axalon,  it worked.  Seems like 'make mr' is IMproper. 
Reinstalled the
headers, and indeed modversions-secure.h was there.  But /boot/kernel.h
was a
zero-length file, possibly as a result of installing the headers.  So I
rebooted and kernel.h was rebuilt.  Installed VMware and so far it seems
to be
OK, though haven't installed guestOS yet.

This implies I CAN recompile a secure kernel!  How do I indicate when
compiling that I DO want the secure kernel?  Be booted to it in the
first
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Re: [expert] Printer question

[Ronald J. Yacketta]

at the command prompt (or in a console window)
type lpq and what does it display?
are you useing the printer soley for linux printing or is it shared and
used by winblows?
if shared check the winblows queue

Ron

Vern wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
>  I have been running Mandrake 6.1 (my first try at Linux) for
> approximately two weeks now and have enjoyed learning about it.  I have a
> printer that has recently
> gone berserk and starts printing a preloaded text  from somewhere.  I don't
> know what "pool, queue,stack,buffer, or list" it is reading from, it has
> survived many bootup cycles and always comes up printing this text.  Where
> might I purge this print job?
> I'm back to using Micro$haft Outlook Express because I have three POP mail
> accounts and have failed to find anything in Linux that will manage all 3.
> Netscape will only allow multiple email accounts if they are IMAP and not
> POP.  So the transition is taking a while to get going.  I did manage to get
> "X" going after collecting all the parts and pieces from Intel to use the
> i810 chipset.  I still have a wheelmouse and a sound card to configure,
> probably have to buy a "real" soundcard since my modem/soundcard "unit"
> won't work.  I did breakdown and buy a "real" external modem since Hewlett
> Packard didn't include any ISA slots on their ASUS "Hawk" motherboard.  It's
> been a long expensive ride so far for my free OS.  I did get about $80.00 of
> books to document the features of this OS.  I had all the computerized
> documentation available on my hard drive, CD, and online.  But none of that
> is available when you are staring at a command prompt, I needed something in
> print to refer to when conversing with the penguin!
> Thanks for listening to the rantings and ravings of a newcomer!
> Vern

Re: [expert] vim leaves "c" behind

[Michael George]

On Mar 09, Jeff Stewart wrote:
> I'm thinking that this may be small problem with the KDE konsole. (At
> least that's where I've noticed it).  A simple kludge around this is to
> set TERM=linux prior to running vi.  I just aliased vi & view to my little
> 3 line script like such:
> 
> export TERM=linux
> /bin/vi $1
> export TERM=xterm
> 
> I put this is in ~/bin and called it myvi.  Then I just put added the
> alias to .bashrc.  (alias vi='$HOME/bin/myvi')

I would do it a tiny bit different...  I would put this script into
$HOME/bin/vi (and make one for view), change the $1 to $*, and make sure that
$HOME/bin is in the PATH before the system-wide bin directories

-Michael 

-- 
No, my friend, the way to have good and safe government, is not to trust it
all to one, but to divide it among the many, distributing to every one exactly
the functions he is competent to.  It is by dividing and subdividing these
republics from the national one down through all its subordinations, until it
ends in the administration of every man's farm by himself; by placing under
every one what his own eye may superintend, that all will be done for the
best.
-- Thomas Jefferson, to Joseph Cabell, 1816

[expert] Unreal Tournament...?

[Ryan Robinson]

Hi, I've been trying to run Unreal Tournament under Mandrake 7.0, with
no luck.  By now, I'm almost convinced that there is something
nonstandard about the distribution that won't allow it to run.  The
client binary shows the splash screen and exits with *no error message*
while the dedicated server exits with a segfault halfway through
loading.  Has anyone else out there gotten it to run ok in 7.0?

Ryan

AW: [expert] RE: WG : FVWM2

[Grojer Juergen]

thanx, but gpm is not running.

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Daniel Klotz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Gesendet am: Donnerstag, 09. März 2000 13:45
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: [expert] RE: WG : FVWM2

Hi ,

I had the same problems with Enlightenment . Just try to restart gpm ,
this worked with me . /etc/rc.d/init.d/gpm restart .

i Hope it works

Re: [expert] solaris disk

[Ronald J. Yacketta]

are you looking to keep the data on the disk?
I have a UltraSCSI sun disk pack with 12 sun 9gb disks (fijitsu actualy)
that works like a charm under linux. just had turn them into ext2 fs's

Ron

Nickos Yoldassis wrote:
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> I have a Mandrake7 machine and want to plug a seciond disk, taken from a Solaris 
>2.5.1 (SUN SPARC) machine.
> 
> does anybody knows if this is possible??
> 
> the command:
> 
> mount -t ufs -o ufstype=sun /dev/sdb1 /mnt/E
> 
> generates an error
> 
> Nickos Yoldassis
> Institute of biomedical Technology
> Greece

Re: [expert] List Bitching

[John Aldrich]

On Thu, 09 Mar 2000, you wrote:
> > 
> > We have a FAQ - sort of - at http://www.mandrakeuser.org
> > What we need is someone that can set up a Cron job to send an
> > email on a daily basis to THIS (and the Newbie) list advertising
> > the FAQ.
> > 
> Is this website listed in the welcome message that is sent out to new list
> users?  If not, maybe it should.  I would not like having the same FAQ
> emailed to me on daily basis.
>
Err...I think the idea was to send an email ADVERTISING the
FAQ, not emailing the FAQ itself.
John

Re: [expert] USB keyboard woes - help!

[Marcos Dione]

On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, John Aldrich wrote:

> > same results. I need the USB for a USB KVM switch - any ideas on a 
> > workaround? Thanks for any advice!
> > 
> Wait for better USB support?
>   John

... or take the risk and switch to kernel 2.3.x. It has some usb
support.

-- 
Inprise/Borland CEO Dale Fuller was even more generous:
"Microsoft will continue to be a player in this environment
in this world," Fuller said, "*for a few more years.*"

[expert] Printer question

[Vern]

Hello All,
 I have been running Mandrake 6.1 (my first try at Linux) for
approximately two weeks now and have enjoyed learning about it.  I have a
printer that has recently
gone berserk and starts printing a preloaded text  from somewhere.  I don't
know what "pool, queue,stack,buffer, or list" it is reading from, it has
survived many bootup cycles and always comes up printing this text.  Where
might I purge this print job?
I'm back to using Micro$haft Outlook Express because I have three POP mail
accounts and have failed to find anything in Linux that will manage all 3.
Netscape will only allow multiple email accounts if they are IMAP and not
POP.  So the transition is taking a while to get going.  I did manage to get
"X" going after collecting all the parts and pieces from Intel to use the
i810 chipset.  I still have a wheelmouse and a sound card to configure,
probably have to buy a "real" soundcard since my modem/soundcard "unit"
won't work.  I did breakdown and buy a "real" external modem since Hewlett
Packard didn't include any ISA slots on their ASUS "Hawk" motherboard.  It's
been a long expensive ride so far for my free OS.  I did get about $80.00 of
books to document the features of this OS.  I had all the computerized
documentation available on my hard drive, CD, and online.  But none of that
is available when you are staring at a command prompt, I needed something in
print to refer to when conversing with the penguin!
Thanks for listening to the rantings and ravings of a newcomer!
Vern

Re: [expert] Still got my CD burner woes, help please

[Axalon Bloodstone]

On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Trevor Farrell wrote:

> OK, I'm the one who started the remove supermount thread (and I'm not
> proud of it, but I needed to know...) so I could see if supermount was
> causing my CD burning to fail. Having executed the now famous supermount
> disable command, I can state that it made not one iota of difference!
> My CD burner still don't burn.
> 
> I've been to the cdrecord website, followed every relevant link I could
> find, read how-to's and FAQ's and the only things burning are my eyes
>  so PLEASE, can anyone out there tell me what the following means:
> 
> [root@treble /dev]# cdrecord -scanbus
> Cdrecord release 1.8a29 Copyright (C) 1995-1999 Jörg Schilling
> Using libscg version 'schily-0.1'
> scsibus0:
> cdrecord: Warning: controller returns wrong size for CD capabilities
> page.

You mean this i assume? can you showoutput of 'cdrecord dev=0,0,0 -prcap'

>  0,0,0 0) 'LG  ' 'CD-RW CED-8042B ' '1.05' Removable CD-ROM
>  0,1,0 1) *
>  0,2,0 2) *
>  0,3,0 3) *
>  0,4,0 4) *
>  0,5,0 5) *
>  0,6,0 6) *
>  0,7,0 7) *
> [root@treble /dev]#
> 
> The only relevant explanation I have found is that it might be a
> firmware bug (if so, how do I fix???) The LG branded CD-RW is, I
> believe, a rebadged matsumi (at least, the box was a matsumi one with an
> LG sticker on it!) and it is a recent model, so it should be compatible
> according to all the hardware lists I've seen.
> 

RE: [expert] Running Postgres postmaster

[Joe Sheble]

It sure did.. thanx...  where would I be able to find more extensive docs
about this?  The docs I downloaded from Postgres's website didn't even
mention this

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vivien Malerba
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 2:24 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Running Postgres postmaster


On jeu, 09 mar 2000, you wrote:
> I'm trying to get Postgres up and running on my Mandrake 7, and am having
a
> hell of a time with the postmater command.  According to the documentation
> it should be as simple as typing:
>
> postmaster -i
>
> I've even gone as far as defining my data directory (although the PGDATA
> environmental variable is defined) with:
>
> postmaster -i -D /home/PostgresData
>
> However, when I run it, the prompt never returns  could somebody
> enlighten me as to what I may be missing?  I've followed most of the
> directions (I skipped the ones about compiling the source code and
> installing it because I installed it according to the defaults the RPMs
> used...)
>
> thanx

When Mandrake is installed, the postgres installation is not complete. It is
completed the first time you launch te service (/etc/rc.d/init.d/postgresql
ou
quelque chose du style). This init will create the right directory
structure,...
Then you may create new databases, users,...

Do not forget that if you want the postmaster to be launched at each linux
startup, to add a symlink in /etc/rc.d/rc??.d like S91postgresql to
/etc/rc.d/init.d/postgresql

Hope this will help!

Vivien

Re: [expert] Still got my CD burner woes, help please

[M Thompson]

Trevor,

Checkout the following link:
http://www.cdmediaworld.com (click on the link labeled 'CD Media World #1 to 
enter the website.)

Once at the website, you can take the link labeled "CD-Writer Firmwares"

In my experience, this is the best CD Writing Website I've found.  If anyone 
knows of other great websites, please let me know.


Hope that helps,
Matt






>From: Trevor Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: Mandrake - expert list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: [expert] Still got my CD burner woes, help please
>Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 21:29:24 +1100
>
>OK, I'm the one who started the remove supermount thread (and I'm not
>proud of it, but I needed to know...) so I could see if supermount was
>causing my CD burning to fail. Having executed the now famous supermount
>disable command, I can state that it made not one iota of difference!
>My CD burner still don't burn.
>
>I've been to the cdrecord website, followed every relevant link I could
>find, read how-to's and FAQ's and the only things burning are my eyes
> so PLEASE, can anyone out there tell me what the following means:
>
>[root@treble /dev]# cdrecord -scanbus
>Cdrecord release 1.8a29 Copyright (C) 1995-1999 Jörg Schilling
>Using libscg version 'schily-0.1'
>scsibus0:
>cdrecord: Warning: controller returns wrong size for CD capabilities
>page.
>  0,0,0 0) 'LG  ' 'CD-RW CED-8042B ' '1.05' Removable CD-ROM
>  0,1,0 1) *
>  0,2,0 2) *
>  0,3,0 3) *
>  0,4,0 4) *
>  0,5,0 5) *
>  0,6,0 6) *
>  0,7,0 7) *
>[root@treble /dev]#
>
>The only relevant explanation I have found is that it might be a
>firmware bug (if so, how do I fix???) The LG branded CD-RW is, I
>believe, a rebadged matsumi (at least, the box was a matsumi one with an
>LG sticker on it!) and it is a recent model, so it should be compatible
>according to all the hardware lists I've seen.
>
>Also, thanks Alan for your word, which I shall repeat since I can't
>think of any better:
>
>Axalonthere's a significant thread here that I guess you
>missed, try the archives.  A group of us has been discussing
>supermount problems for over a week now and you've not been
>contributing at all (nor has anyone else from MandrakeSoft).
>Brian is rightfully upset when you accuse him directly of not
>careing to learn as should be all of us who have been involved
>in this thread.  You talk about disc 3 to a bunch of folks who
>either downloaded an iso or bought a GPL?  Probably no one here
>has a powerpack that, by the way was only announced as available
>on February 28th which was less than a week and a half ago.
>
>I think you owe Brian and all the rest of us involved in the
>supermount thread a big apology!  We've been trying very hard,
>with no help from any mandrakeSoft personel, to work out the
>problems that people have been having with supermount.
>
>Alan
>
>Thanks to all those who did reply with help on the supermount issue.
>
>Trevor.
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [expert] List Bitching

[minnrp01]

On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Ramon Gandia wrote:

> Rich Clark wrote:
> > 
> > Maybe what the list needs is a FAQ page posted somewhere.  Someone
> > subscribes to the list, they get the nice new welcome note from the list
> > manager that gives them pointers about how to post, what to post and where
> > to look for answers *before* they post the same question that's been asked
> > and answered countless times before.  Everyone else has a FAQ, why don't
> > we?
> 
> We have a FAQ - sort of - at http://www.mandrakeuser.org
> What we need is someone that can set up a Cron job to send an
> email on a daily basis to THIS (and the Newbie) list advertising
> the FAQ.
> 
Is this website listed in the welcome message that is sent out to new list
users?  If not, maybe it should.  I would not like having the same FAQ
emailed to me on daily basis.

Re: [expert] List Bitching

[Dennis Robertson]

Ramon Gandia wrote:
> 
> Ivan Trail wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 08 Mar 2000, you wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > And what is this long-running modem brand talk?  May we please discuss 
>Linux-related issues?
> > > Maybe people are uncomfortable to speak of what they really need for fear of 
>being flamed as
> > > newbies,  a practice of =assholes= who stink pretty bad after a while.(yeah, 
>I said that)
> >
> > I agree. I was on the newbie list for about a month and got tired of having
> > 80-100 emails to sort through on the subject "installing linux".  The list has
> > it's place, and was a great source of help but after I got it installed I
> > couldn't get a decent response on a tougher question.  Here I have answered
> > most of my problems by reading what other people have asked.
> >
> > I am not trying to start another flame, but here is my suggestion to remedy
> > this problem:
> >
> > Impliment several, more specific, mailing lists.  ie. one for installation
> > help, one for driver development, one for people who actually like too much
> > caffiene ;^)  You get the point.  I used to ber on atleast four different
> > mailing lists from Red Hat at any one time.  the redhat place has probably
> > fifteen to twenty different lists to choose from.  So maybe some of you experts
> > in a specific area of linux could volunteer to host a mailing list.  I would do
> > so but I can't even find actors to help with the scripting language thing, thus
> > I am far from an expert.
> >
> > just my two cents worth, with NO REFUNDS!
> 
> And my 3 cents will make it a Nickel:
> 
> These mailing lists have two sorts of people on it.  Group 1
> are the newcomers that have legitimate questions to ask.  Not
> exacty Newbies, but 'newcomer.'  Group 2 are the rest of the
> grouchos that answer them or seek the Truth.
> 
> You, sir, probably belong to neither group.  You are looking at
> a social place, and want to see ever expanding level of expertise
> on this list.  This is not the intent.  The mailing lists have
> a place, and it is to help the Mandrake user.  By their very
> nature, the people asking are those that do not know the
> answers.
> 
> There is an influx of new people all the time.  It is wrong to
> get angry or be dissapointed just because a Newcomer is having
> problem with Modems, his WinModem don't work, or his PPP link
> won't come up.  We see these questions asked ALL THE TIME, and
> they are going to be asked all the time each and every week
> from now until Hell Freezes Over.  That is the way it is.
> Once the newcomer gets his questions answered, he will move
> on or become one of the grouchos answering questions.
> 
> To make it plain, I have received VERY LITTLE help from this
> list, although I do get a surprise once in a while.   I am
> here to answer some questions.  I am an ISP, and what I know
> is often of help to some newcomers.  Others on this list
> know Perl, or PHP, or Sendmail, oretc.  That is what is
> all about.
> 
> If you get tired of the Questions and their answers; if the
> list is repetitive to you, or sounds trivial, then I would
> say that you have outgrown it.  Nothing to get angry about.
> Hang around if you want, or move on.  Maybe to return later.
> 
> Linux is a long, tall ladder.  We all climb this ladder of
> learning.  As we slowly climb, we see those above and ask for
> help, and at the same time we reach down and help pull up
> those below us.  While we move up this ladder, we have to
> recognize that new people are getting on the lower rungs all
> the time.
> 
> I, and a few others that pitched in, answered and discussed
> some questions regarding Modemsand Supermount.  Frankly,
> I had posted about this four or five times already.  And
> it will happen again because next week, sure as all get out,
> some newcomer will want to know how come his "SupraExpress
> 56i PCI Modem will not be recognized or work with Linux".
> So, it starts over.  Thats the way it was, is, and will be.
> 
> --
> Ramon Gandia = Sysadmin == Nook Net
> http://www.nook.net[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 285 West First Avenue tel. 907-443-7575
> P.O. Box 970  fax. 907-443-2487
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Amen from a newcomer.
-- 
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