Re: [expert] Linux/VMware Ram -- How much?

[Kenneth G. Kay]

From the menu on the VMware title bar choose:
Settings/Configuration Editor/Memory and adjust the slide control to
select the amount of memory you want to allocate to Win3.1.

Ken

On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, Benjamin Sher wrote:

> Dear friends:
> 
> How does VMWare for Linux allocate its RAM for its guest OS?
> 
> I have an AMD k6-2 400 hrtz with 128 megs of real RAM. 
> 
> As you know, I tried to install Win3.1 as a guest OS on Vmware this past
> weekend. Strangely enough, it was a total success, including use of the
> modem, which allowed me to download files directly from the Net.
> 
> The only problem was that of REAL RAM. 
> 
> When I booted up Win3.1 in VMware for Linux, I was told that I had a CPU
> of 400 Mhrtz, 640k of conventional memory and only 15 megs of RAM. Is
> that all that was left over after Linux and KDE? Is that the explanation
> for the low RAM count. 
> 
> If so, how could I raise the real Ram on my Win3.1 OS on VMware? Could I
> use a different GUI such as xfce? Would that increase the ram left over
> for Win3.1 on VMware? If so, could you please indicate how I would
> switch to Xfce for this purpose?
> 
> For the record, my main interest is in being to watch certain Russian
> Internet stations that, unfortunately, have chosen to broadcast on
> Windows Media Player rather than RealPlayer. There is a WMP v. 3 (July,
> 1999) meant especially for Win3.1 that allows for full audio AND video
> streaming provided a) you run it on a minimum Pentium CPU 166 and
> sufficient ram. I was able to access one Russian station from Moscow on
> WMP, I could "hear" it (it was obviously playing sound, I just haven't
> yet succeeded in configuring the sound for Win31 on VMware) and there
> was definite video. The video was "clear" but of poor quality, slow and
> grained. I at first thought that there was no hope. However, I can't
> help but wonder if increasing the RAM would not have produced a sharp
> picture. 
> 
> Bottom line: VMware requires a minimum of Pentium 266 to run the host
> system and 96 megs of Ram. Windows Media Player 3.0 for Win31 Since my
> AMD CPU is 400 Mhrtz and I have 128 megs of Ram, could I in some way
> allocate enough RAM to make WMP work properly on my VMware for Linux?
> 
> My thanks in advance both for myself and for other colleagues who use
> Linux and who might wish to be able to watch the WMP stations on VMware
> for Linux on Win31 rather than bother with Winblows 95/98/2000. Let's
> hope eventually Linux will produce its own streaming client to play
> those WMP asf and asx files. That would be ideal. 
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> Benjamin
> 

RE: [expert] Memory upgrade

[fred . deklein]

Hello all,
thanks for the overwhelming amounts of replies.
Now the funny thing is that I have 2 boxes both LM7.02, on one the append
worked, on the other box, there was already an append in the lilo.conf, I
tried to add the mem=191M, and it accepted that when I ran /sbin/lilo, but
when I looked at the amount of Memory, no such luck.
Then took out the append statement that already existed, included my own
append statement, no such luck.
After that copied the lilo.conf from the other box to the one with the
problems. Again, no such luck.

Any ideas???

Regards
 
Fred de Klein
 
tel: 01908 656106 (w)
  0780 8254445(mob)
http://www.bigfoot.com/~klein_it  


-Original Message-
From: Tom Berkley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 20 March 2000 14:32
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Memory upgrade


in /etc/lilo.conf add the following line

append="mem=192M"

Tom

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> this question has probably already been raised, but I have added 128M to
my
> original 64M, and would expect it to be picked up by Mandrake
automatically,
> however no such luck.
> Can anyone help me on how to do this.
> 
> Your help much appreciated.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Fred de Klein
> 
> tel: 01908 656106 (w)
>   0780 8254445(mob)
> http://www.bigfoot.com/~klein_it 

Re: [expert] IPFWADM prolem ?

[Will Merkens]

Joachim Holst wrote:
> 
> Hi !
> 
> I would like to have all incoming TCP/IP traffic on a specific port
> redirected to another machine. I've tried solving this with IPFWADM using
> the following command:
> ipfwadm -F -a accept -P tcp -S 0.0.0.0/0 82 -D 10.0.0.1 82 -V 10.0.0.254
> but it doesn't seem to be working. The only thing that happens is that I
> get "could not connect to host". I'm quite convinced that my problem is
> solvable. BTW, I'm forced to use kernel 2.0.36 du to a driver that isn't
> available for 2.2.x kernels so giving me some tips that point to ipchains
> wont help me.


Kernel 2.0.36 can be patched to use ipchains.

[expert] Re: CD burner problem

[Trevor Farrell]

Trevor Farrell wrote:

> With regard to my previously-post CD-writer problem:
>
> [root@treble /dev]# cdrecord -scanbus
> Cdrecord release 1.8a29 Copyright (C) 1995-1999 Jörg Schilling
> Using libscg version 'schily-0.1'
> scsibus0:
> cdrecord: Warning: controller returns wrong size for CD capabilities
> page.
>  0,0,0 0) 'LG  ' 'CD-RW CED-8042B ' '1.05' Removable CD-ROM
>  0,1,0 1) *
>  0,2,0 2) *
>  0,3,0 3) *
>  0,4,0 4) *
>  0,5,0 5) *
>  0,6,0 6) *
>  0,7,0 7) *
> [root@treble /dev]#
>
> I have received a reply from Jörg Schilling, the author of cdrecord, as
> follows:
>
> This is a firmware bug.
>
> Upgrade cdrecord to a recent version.
>
> Jörg
>
> Thanks to those who tried to help
>
> Trevor

and now, from LG electronics - the CD rw manufacturer:

We have no firmware updates for this drive beyond 1.05 . The update is
attache dfor this. But we don't support Linux writing, so it could be a
Linux issue. Thanks
Bill

So I guess that when I upgrade cdrecord I will know more. Until then...

Trevor

Re: [expert] Linux/VMware Ram -- How much?

[Benjamin Sher]

Dear Kenneth and friends:

Well, do I feel like an idiot!

All I need to do is go in Configuration Editor to Memory and slide
memory bar to the right or left to increase or decreate memory alloted
to the Guest OS. Boy, do I feel bad. But I am so very grateful,
nonetheless, for this priceless bit of information. Now can someone tell
me, please, what is the path for the sound device. /dev/dsp doesn't seem
to work. And my SB AWE64 works great in Linux.

Thanks a million.

Benjamin
-- 
Benjamin and Anna Sher
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sher's Russian Web
http://www.websher.net

[expert] Can someone please explain..

[James]

I've tried various X-windows interfaces and I am amazed to find that after
browsing through KDE, GNOME, XFCE3, WindowMaker, Afterstep, ICEWM, and
Plain_X11.. NONE of them have a windows properties selection that allows
for the editing of screen resolution!  Unless it is hidden in some quiet
corner of the X-windows design of each, there is no such utility!

I am familiar with Xconfigurator, but while using Mandrake 7.02 I have
found that my configurator will not allow me to set my resolution size
manually.. it gives me an error even though it works (sort of) if I exit
after settings have been made.  Though, I can't select 800x600 at high
resolution.. so I have to settle with 8 bit default.

Can someone please tell me why none of these wonderful X-windows programs
have a setting to change screen resolution like Windows does?  Don't get
me wrong, I am happier with Linux overall than I am with Windows.. but one
would think the Linux community would have enough brains to make things
easier to deal with than they currently are.

Ok.. gripe is over.  Thanks.

james

[expert] openssh X11 Forwarding with Mdk7.0

[Lang Zhi]

I installed openssh mdk rpms. Its work except the X11 Forwarding part.
I already enable it inside /etc/sshd/sshd_config and ssh_config.

It give me the error :

[lz2@kosh lz2]$ kedit
X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.

Whats wrong here ?

Thanks
-lz
__
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Re: [expert] Can someone please explain..

[Nick Kay]

At 01:56 21/03/00 -0800, you wrote:
>I've tried various X-windows interfaces and I am amazed to find that after
>browsing through KDE, GNOME, XFCE3, WindowMaker, Afterstep, ICEWM, and
>Plain_X11.. NONE of them have a windows properties selection that allows
>for the editing of screen resolution!  Unless it is hidden in some quiet
>corner of the X-windows design of each, there is no such utility!
>
>I am familiar with Xconfigurator, but while using Mandrake 7.02 I have
>found that my configurator will not allow me to set my resolution size
>manually.. it gives me an error even though it works (sort of) if I exit
>after settings have been made.  Though, I can't select 800x600 at high
>resolution.. so I have to settle with 8 bit default.
>
>Can someone please tell me why none of these wonderful X-windows programs
>have a setting to change screen resolution like Windows does?  Don't get
>me wrong, I am happier with Linux overall than I am with Windows.. but one
>would think the Linux community would have enough brains to make things
>easier to deal with than they currently are.
>
>Ok.. gripe is over.  Thanks.
>
>james

Unlike Windows (where you have to change your desktop
configuration to change the resolution), X already has
different resolutions set up. Use Cntrl-Alt-/
to cycle through the resolutions specified in your XF86Config.

At the end of my XF86Config I have:-

Section "Screen"
Driver  "accel"
Device  "My Video Card"
Monitor "Hitachi CM600"
Subsection "Display"
Depth   16
Modes   "1152x864" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort0 0
EndSubsection
EndSection

So Cntrl-Alt- will cycle through 1152x864 to 640x480.

And no, you don't have to reboot your computer.  :)


hih
nick@nexnix
>
>
>
>

Re: [expert] Memory upgrade

[Brenner Stefan]

Has the second box also 192M Have you activated OS/2 in the BIOS With this 
"feature" activated Linux will never see more 
than 64MB. Try telling Linux that it has 192MB at the Lilo-Prompt by typing:

LILO:  (default in Mandrake7.02 is vmlinuz) mem=192M

and see what happens. If this doesn´t help, I would test the RAM in the Machine where 
the append in lilo.conf works.

Stefan

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> thanks for the overwhelming amounts of replies.
> Now the funny thing is that I have 2 boxes both LM7.02, on one the append
> worked, on the other box, there was already an append in the lilo.conf, I
> tried to add the mem=191M, and it accepted that when I ran /sbin/lilo, but
> when I looked at the amount of Memory, no such luck.
> Then took out the append statement that already existed, included my own
> append statement, no such luck.
> After that copied the lilo.conf from the other box to the one with the
> problems. Again, no such luck.
> 
> Any ideas???
> 
> Regards
> 
> Fred de Klein
> 
> tel: 01908 656106 (w)
>   0780 8254445(mob)
> http://www.bigfoot.com/~klein_it 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Tom Berkley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 20 March 2000 14:32
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [expert] Memory upgrade
> 
> in /etc/lilo.conf add the following line
> 
> append="mem=192M"
> 
> Tom
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Hello All,
> > this question has probably already been raised, but I have added 128M to
> my
> > original 64M, and would expect it to be picked up by Mandrake
> automatically,
> > however no such luck.
> > Can anyone help me on how to do this.
> >
> > Your help much appreciated.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Fred de Klein
> >
> > tel: 01908 656106 (w)
> >   0780 8254445(mob)
> > http://www.bigfoot.com/~klein_it 

-- 
  +
   ___   ___  _   ___   ___   |  
  /::/  /::/ //  /::/  /::/   |  Stefan Brenner, Germany
 /::/__/::/   /::/  ___   /::/   __   |  phone:  +49 8104 887891
//  /:::/  /::/ //  /:/   |  email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 /::/  /::/   /::/  /::/   /::/   |  QuaranteDeux IT-Consult GmbH
/::/  /:::/  /::/  /::/   /:/ |  http://www.quarantedeux.de
  +
 S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

[expert] Yamaha OPL3-SAx Sound Card

[Simon Robertson]

Hello,

I run 'soundconfig' in an Xterm each time i configure my sound, it
brings up a Yamaha OPL3-SAx driver which it is, and thus makes a mixer
available to adjust volume and the CD-Player then works. Though enabling
sound in KDE Control Centre and trying to play any sounds or having
sound enabled in Windows through VMware, freezes linux at a point when
sound and a command are occuring at the same time. The only way to
escape this freeze is to totally reboot and go through a forced check,
very time consuming.

I have compiled several kernels in the past, but each time I select my
sound card either modulized or not, or even with different settings,
everytime it is failing and eventually I need to recompile with no sound
card selected and use 'soundconfig' in an Xterm.

Lothar was just the same, could see the card, knew the settings, but as
soon as you press enter a 'FAIL' comes up and no matter what changes you
make to the settings it always comes back the same.

Does anyone out there have any suggestions or know if Kernel 2.4 is
going to be any better.

Thankyou, if you can help,

Simon.

RE: [expert] Can someone please explain..

[fred . deklein]

You might try the DrakeConfig option, that allows you to do quite a lot,
including resizing X

Regards
 
Fred de Klein
 
tel: 01908 656106 (w)
  0780 8254445(mob)
http://www.bigfoot.com/~klein_it  


-Original Message-
From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 21 March 2000 09:56
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [expert] Can someone please explain..


I've tried various X-windows interfaces and I am amazed to find that after
browsing through KDE, GNOME, XFCE3, WindowMaker, Afterstep, ICEWM, and
Plain_X11.. NONE of them have a windows properties selection that allows
for the editing of screen resolution!  Unless it is hidden in some quiet
corner of the X-windows design of each, there is no such utility!

I am familiar with Xconfigurator, but while using Mandrake 7.02 I have
found that my configurator will not allow me to set my resolution size
manually.. it gives me an error even though it works (sort of) if I exit
after settings have been made.  Though, I can't select 800x600 at high
resolution.. so I have to settle with 8 bit default.

Can someone please tell me why none of these wonderful X-windows programs
have a setting to change screen resolution like Windows does?  Don't get
me wrong, I am happier with Linux overall than I am with Windows.. but one
would think the Linux community would have enough brains to make things
easier to deal with than they currently are.

Ok.. gripe is over.  Thanks.

james

Re: [expert] Linux/VMware Ram -- How much?

[mdk]

can you run 98 or 2000pro under vmware?
- Original Message - 
From: "Benjamin Sher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Kenneth G. Kay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2000 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] Linux/VMware Ram -- How much?


> Dear Kenneth and friends:
> 
> Well, do I feel like an idiot!
> 
> All I need to do is go in Configuration Editor to Memory and slide
> memory bar to the right or left to increase or decreate memory alloted
> to the Guest OS. Boy, do I feel bad. But I am so very grateful,
> nonetheless, for this priceless bit of information. Now can someone tell
> me, please, what is the path for the sound device. /dev/dsp doesn't seem
> to work. And my SB AWE64 works great in Linux.
> 
> Thanks a million.
> 
> Benjamin
> -- 
> Benjamin and Anna Sher
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sher's Russian Web
> http://www.websher.net
> 

[expert] Mandrake 7.02 is messed up.

[Sean Armstrong]

For the life of me, I can not understand why Mandrake continues to ship a 
defective product. If their older versions had no problem initializing 
cdroms and their new version DOES have problems initializing cdroms, then 
why not correct that part of the code with the older versions part of code? 
I'm no computer genius, but this problem is asinine. With a competitive 
market for Linux distributions that is growing everyday, it seems to me that 
Mandrake can't afford to pissoff their customers. For that matter, with the 
ever expanding market of computer OS's, now up to 4 reliable ones, I would 
think that Mandrake would try to avoid driving their customers away. Once 
again, Mandrake rushed an unfinished product to market. I guess in the world 
of computers you don't have to have a real business plan or even understand 
business to get ahead for a little while. So, until Mandrake decides to 
correct these issues, I for on am going back to the more RELIABLE Redhat 
distribution. At least their head isn't THAT far up their arse. Good Day and 
Good Luck.
SA
__
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Re: [expert] Can someone please explain..

[huth]

to change resolution you only have to config all resolutions you want
with your configurator then you can change the resolution simply by
pressing ALT+CTRL+PLUS or  ALT+CTRL+MINUS

mfg heiko


James wrote:
> 
> I've tried various X-windows interfaces and I am amazed to find that after
> browsing through KDE, GNOME, XFCE3, WindowMaker, Afterstep, ICEWM, and
> Plain_X11.. NONE of them have a windows properties selection that allows
> for the editing of screen resolution!  Unless it is hidden in some quiet
> corner of the X-windows design of each, there is no such utility!
> 
> I am familiar with Xconfigurator, but while using Mandrake 7.02 I have
> found that my configurator will not allow me to set my resolution size
> manually.. it gives me an error even though it works (sort of) if I exit
> after settings have been made.  Though, I can't select 800x600 at high
> resolution.. so I have to settle with 8 bit default.
> 
> Can someone please tell me why none of these wonderful X-windows programs
> have a setting to change screen resolution like Windows does?  Don't get
> me wrong, I am happier with Linux overall than I am with Windows.. but one
> would think the Linux community would have enough brains to make things
> easier to deal with than they currently are.
> 
> Ok.. gripe is over.  Thanks.
> 
> james

Re: [expert] Memory upgrade

[Joseph S. Gardner]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hello all,
> thanks for the overwhelming amounts of replies.
> Now the funny thing is that I have 2 boxes both LM7.02, on one the append
> worked, on the other box, there was already an append in the lilo.conf, I
> tried to add the mem=191M, and it accepted that when I ran /sbin/lilo, but
> when I looked at the amount of Memory, no such luck.
> Then took out the append statement that already existed, included my own
> append statement, no such luck.
> After that copied the lilo.conf from the other box to the one with the
> problems. Again, no such luck.
>
> Any ideas???
>
> Regards
>
> Fred de Klein
>

Fred,

What does your append line look like for the machine that does NOT work?  If
memory serves me it should be something like this:

append="mem=191M","something_else=this"

You'll need to check the archives or a man page for the exact punctuation but
it should be enough to get you started.


--
Joseph S. Gardner
Senior Designer / Technical Support
Kirby Co.,  Cleveland, OH
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Linux is like a wigwam...
No windows, no gates.
Apache inside

Registered linux user #1696600
ICQ #63389227

Re: [expert] Linux/VMware Ram -- How much?

[Ray]

Yes I am running windows 98 windows 2000 pro and advanced server



On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, you wrote:
> can you run 98 or 2000pro under vmware?
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Benjamin Sher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Kenneth G. Kay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2000 10:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [expert] Linux/VMware Ram -- How much?
> 
> 
> > Dear Kenneth and friends:
> > 
> > Well, do I feel like an idiot!
> > 
> > All I need to do is go in Configuration Editor to Memory and slide
> > memory bar to the right or left to increase or decreate memory alloted
> > to the Guest OS. Boy, do I feel bad. But I am so very grateful,
> > nonetheless, for this priceless bit of information. Now can someone tell
> > me, please, what is the path for the sound device. /dev/dsp doesn't seem
> > to work. And my SB AWE64 works great in Linux.
> > 
> > Thanks a million.
> > 
> > Benjamin
> > -- 
> > Benjamin and Anna Sher
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sher's Russian Web
> > http://www.websher.net
> >

[expert] Connection problem

[Antoniou, Stylianos]

Hi there,
I have configured two PCs (Mandrake7.0 & RedHat6.1) in my college network.
When the network cards are connected to the network sockets everything is
fine, I have access to the www from both and when I ping from one to the
other I can get a connection.
# ping 155.198.91.168
PING 155.198.91.168 (155.198.91.168) from 155.198.91.82 : 56(84) bytes of
data.
64 bytes from 155.198.91.168 icmp_seq=0 tt164 time=4.2ms
64 bytes from 155.198.91.168 icmp_seq=0 tt164 time=4.2ms
...
However, when I directly connect the two network cards with one cable, the
connection is not established, i.e.
# ping 155.198.91.168
PING 155.198.91.168 (155.198.91.168) 56 bytes of data.

and nothing else. What am I missing?
Thanks, in advance
Stelios

[expert] WEIRD!

[Leonardo T. de Carvalho]

Hello all.

I'm dealing with a WEIRD situation for 2 days.
Trying to install Mandrake Linux (7.02 ISO) on a Pentium 90, 32 Mb RAM
(like 5 others on the lab) , I got a terminal with NO window managers. Only on this
machine!
NONE. No Gnome, KDE or Widowmaker...
And I'm use the expert mode, and try to install ALL packages.

What could be happening?

Thanx!

RE: [expert] The Orphan LS120/LX120

[Michael Webb]

count me in civilme.  You hit a cord there.  I cant see why we cant have
Linux-ona-LS120 mini distros.

Michael Webb
aka GNUDE

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Civileme
Sent: Saturday, 18 March 2000 6:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [expert] The Orphan LS120/LX120


The LS120 is a magneto-optical cartridge drive with the modest capacity of
120Mb.  Its principal claims to fame are that it will read and write
ordinary
floppies and it will store slightly more than a ZIP drive.  Like the
internal
IDE Zip it takes one slot on an IDE channel, and early BIOSes that supported
it
would boot it from the master positions only.

The saga of LS120s on this list has not been a happy one in most cases.

I happen to like the little beasties because their performance as floppy
disk
drives is superior to ordinary floppies.  The lifetime is longer, the
positioning is consistent and deteriorates much more slowly, and the R/W
speed
with proper software approaches what one could expect from the rotational
latency of a floppy, in other words, much faster than an ordinary floppy
drive.

I have several of the LS120s in service and I have NEVER SEEN an LS120
cartridge.  And yes, if someone made a $50 floppy drive that performed like
these, I would buy it.

All that said, what is wrong with the LS120?

Well if you include a CD-RW drive and an LS120 in a linux installation
(Mostly
Mandrake AIR this would apply to), the inclusion of the ide-scsi model may
cause the LS to be recognized as /dev/scx.   The "cure" seems to be to
compile
the kernel with ide-floppy in the kernel, and not as a module.

The versions now in cooker solve most of the rest of the LS120 problems,
though
supermount seems a bit iffy yet, and mkbootdisk still can't make a bootable
floppy from one though a bootable cartridge is supposed to work.   (The
failure
is when /sbin/lilo calls mknod on the device, for floppy disks only).

One of the things asked is  would anyone ever partition an LS120?  W
obvioulsy don't partition floppies.  ZIPs usually work on partition
/dev/hdx4
(for factory DOS-formatted cartridges, and MAC formatted cartridges as
well).

Anyway I think if we had an idea how to handle the partitioning, then the
gurus
at Mandrakesoft could figure out what to do with this nasty critter.  I
would
suggest, for the sake of simplicity, that we propose it as a
single-partition
device, because, these days, 120Mb isn't much at all, and it seems ludicrous
to
add a lot of extra effort to make it multipartition with one media and
single
with another.  (And if you want to propose partitioning for 1.44Mb floppies,
I
want your IP address.)

I hate to report that Win98 boot disks spit out of an LS120 at 2 per minute
(including formatting and disk switching times) and it may take the LS120 up
to
a minute to hand kfm a directory of a floppy in Mandrake 7.0, if you have
the
LS120 in fstab as an ide and you have installed the ide-scsi module for a
CDRW.
Formatting a floppy drive on an LS120 in Mandrake  seems to work though
anyone
who has tried has to double-check to see that it worked, because it is FAST.

Well, what's to do?

1->  Propose a standard for handling partitions on the cartridges
2->  Experiment more with floppies...  Can we do a dd or rawrite of say
tomsrtbt
onto one using the LS120?  If we can do rawrite but not dd, then what is
stopping us, definitions, or code deficiencies?

Anyone interested in making a mini-project of this, email me privately.

Civileme

Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.02 is messed up.

[Mike & Tracy Holt]

With all due respect, I've found that most of the time, the things that I've
considered "bugs" were simply my own lack of knowledge to make them work -
I'm using Mandrake 7.02 and found it to be one of the most complete and easy
distribs available.  (Have used RedHat 6, SuSE 6.3 and now using the
downloaded .iso image of Mandrake 7.02)
Sincerely,
Michael Holt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message -
From: "Sean Armstrong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 4:10 AM
Subject: [expert] Mandrake 7.02 is messed up.


> For the life of me, I can not understand why Mandrake continues to ship a
> defective product. If their older versions had no problem initializing
> cdroms and their new version DOES have problems initializing cdroms, then
> why not correct that part of the code with the older versions part of
code?
> I'm no computer genius, but this problem is asinine. With a competitive
> market for Linux distributions that is growing everyday, it seems to me
that
> Mandrake can't afford to pissoff their customers. For that matter, with
the
> ever expanding market of computer OS's, now up to 4 reliable ones, I would
> think that Mandrake would try to avoid driving their customers away. Once
> again, Mandrake rushed an unfinished product to market. I guess in the
world
> of computers you don't have to have a real business plan or even
understand
> business to get ahead for a little while. So, until Mandrake decides to
> correct these issues, I for on am going back to the more RELIABLE Redhat
> distribution. At least their head isn't THAT far up their arse. Good Day
and
> Good Luck.
> SA
> __
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>

AW: [expert] Linux/VMware Ram -- How much?

[Grojer Juergen]

Yes you can run the following OSes under VMWare 2:

MS-DOS; win 3.11 win95 win98 winnt win2000 linux freebsd and it has also an
option for other OS.


Grojer Jürgen

CCN EB
Mailadministration

SIEMENS AG Austria
Siemensstr. 88 - 92
1211 Wien

Tel.:   +43 51707 29153
Handy:  +43 676 3792713
mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: mdk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Gesendet am: Dienstag, 21. März 2000 12:53
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: Re: [expert] Linux/VMware Ram -- How much?

can you run 98 or 2000pro under vmware?
- Original Message - 
From: "Benjamin Sher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Kenneth G. Kay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2000 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] Linux/VMware Ram -- How much?


> Dear Kenneth and friends:
> 
> Well, do I feel like an idiot!
> 
> All I need to do is go in Configuration Editor to Memory and slide
> memory bar to the right or left to increase or decreate memory alloted
> to the Guest OS. Boy, do I feel bad. But I am so very grateful,
> nonetheless, for this priceless bit of information. Now can someone tell
> me, please, what is the path for the sound device. /dev/dsp doesn't seem
> to work. And my SB AWE64 works great in Linux.
> 
> Thanks a million.
> 
> Benjamin
> -- 
> Benjamin and Anna Sher
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sher's Russian Web
> http://www.websher.net
> 

[expert] KDE icons disappeared

[Trevor Farrell]

OK, I don't know what is going on, but this is my 6th attempt at getting

this through to the list!  I've tried different mailservers, using "new
msg"
& "reply", and several changes of text/subject. Other emails are going
out OK, just not this
one! My apologies if the floodgates suddenly burst and all 6 hit the
list.

Alan Shoemaker wrote:

> Seanthat has been doable for a long time.  Use this syntax:
> 'startx -- :x'.  Your original session defaults to x=0, the next
> should be x=1 etc.  Ctl-alt f7-f12 accesses the x-sessions
> whereas ctl-alt f1-f6 accesses the consoles you started the
> x-sessions in.
>

Well, I thought this was too good to be true, so I tried it...

Logged onto tty2 as root, did startx -- :1 and was real impressed to see

KDE start up as root. Yes, Ctrl-Alt-F7 took me back to KDE logged in as
me. WOW it worked (so far...).

Then, Ctrl-Alt-F8 took me to a black screen - keyboard num-lock light
went out, tried every key combo I could think of to get some response,
even a num-lock or caps-lock light would have been good, but the only
thing that worked was Ctrl-Alt-Del to reboot - with the screen dead, the

system appeared to shut down properly-  plenty of drive action - but no
reboot - so I had to use the power switch (shades of M$ Windows...).

When I restarted the box, it reported that the disc was not unmounted
cleanly & did its checking - finally giving a status of "passed".
Everything works normally now, except that when I'm logged into KDE as
me, no icons & I can't execute programs - the panel & K menus are there,

but only a few items (like logout) work. I can't open a terminal,
refresh icons/desktop or anything. logging out & logging back in using
gnome instead of KDE works (thats how I'm sending this) but I prefer
KDE. Kde still works if I log in as root, just not as me!

Well, I hate to admit it, but I don't even know where to start looking,
so can someone please tell me what to do to get things back!

Trevor

Re: [expert] pcmcia service causes protection fault

[Marcos Dione]

On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Harald Wolf wrote:

> if i activate the PCMCIA service on installation i get a general
> protection
> fault on startup.

no mean to make a flamewar here, but, does GPF's exist under
linux? I know what they mean under WIN$$, but, here?

-- 
"No tiren sus colillas en el urinario, las humedece
y las hace dificil de encender"
 --Tom Sharpe, "Wilt on high"

Re: [expert] 7.0-2(?) install scenerio problems (WARNING, long)

[Trevor Farrell]

"Joseph S. Gardner" wrote:

>
> First off NICE job Mandrake on the GUI install, only complaint would be
> that it was a little confusing  which packages I was selecting for
> install (might want to look at check boxes instead of the color change
> thing).
>

Amen to that!

>   Just for grins I tried Lothar (nice job
> on that BTW) and it's telling me that sound has already been setup so
> it's off to the mixer from KDE and it keeps coming back with permission
> errors even when logged in as root, very strange.
>

At least you got that far - Lother just locks my machine up TOTALLY, like I
mean DEAD!

> Sixth and final install is a normal install and everthing loaded fine.
> Hey guys, all I wanted to do was make certain I had all the librarys
> installed because I've been burned before by not having them all (thus
> the developement install's).
>
>

Amen, again! All installs should have the minimum libraries needed to make
gcc run, at least! Especially the "recommended" option.

>

Trevor

Re: [expert] KPPP vs Win98

[Vern]

Thanks Civileme for the quick reply!
I can't believe it!  Another windoze "gotcha!"  is there any aspect of home
computing they
haven't tampered with to tilt the odds in their favor??  There are only
three ISP's here locally
and I have accounts with each.  Service is very bad and I have to go from
one to another to
get a connection to the "real world".  Things are improving we used to only
have one ISP and
if it was busy or the line was down you waited till later and tried again.
If there is a problem
and you call "tech support" they tell you to reinstall windoze, so finding
anyone who knows
about NetBIOS would be next to impossible.  I can't afford the long distance
charges to reach
a "real" ISP so I guess I'm stuck.  Thanks again for telling me what was
going on anyway.
Vern

- Original Message -
From: Civileme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 7:28 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] KPPP vs Win98


> Vern wrote:
>
> > Well here's maybe an easy one for you gurus to answer, I have thesame
> > internet hookup from Mandrake 7.0 and Win98, but the mdkconnect gets
> > "bumped" offline after 10-15 min. whether I'm browsingdownloading or
> > getting email/newsgroups. Any clues? What tweaksam I missing?  MTU's?
> > port speed?  don't know where to find outabout the UART's and buffers
> > in Linux yet, so I don't know.  I can stayhooked up to the same ISP's
> > for hours with Win98, I do know that theyall use Win NT servers (it
> > says so right in the details).  This may be oldstuff, but I haven't
> > run across it yet.Thanks in advance.Vern
>
> Find a different ISP.  This is a little NetBIOS check "to prevent IP
> spoofing" that Microsoft cheerfully supplies to brain damaged ISPs.  15
> minutes is the shortest interval I have heard of, but the symptoms are
> the same for cable modems and even some dsl's.  Or contact your ISP and
> see if you can find someone competent to disable this "feature" for
> you.  If they all have their MCSE's from the back of a matchbook,
> probably they will be unable to help you.
>
> Civileme
>
>

Re: [expert] 7.0-2(?) install scenerio problems (WARNING, long)

[Vern]

Thanks Ron for the reply, I'll try this process the next time.
Is there a difference between 7.0 and 7.0-2?
Vern

- Original Message -
From: Ron Stodden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 11:51 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] 7.0-2(?) install scenerio problems (WARNING, long)


> Vern,
>
> A tip which will help some is to split out your /home directory in
> your 6.1 to a new partition.  Then do a fresh install of 7.0-2 and
> make sure everything is working (DrakX forgets some RPMs).
>
> Then manually mount your home partition to /home to restore your user
> customisations and data from 6.1 into 7.0-2.  If that's good, then
> put the /home mount in your fstab after deleting everything under the
> /home directory in 7.0-2 to release the 'dead' space.
>
> That gets most of the install-over functionality, but you will have
> to reinstall any applications you installed on 6.1 on 7.0-2 to
> complete the process.  These reinstalls should preserve all the user
> data and configurations.
>
> Vern wrote:
>
> > I've also had a heck of a time upgrading from 6.1 to 7.0, I had
everything
> > running pretty good in 6.1!!  I'm back to windoze right now, If I ever
get
> > 7.0
> > functional I'm not going to Mandrake 8.0 or whatever that's for sure!!
I
> > think
> > they engineered MDk 7.0 for a clean install, no upgrades.  Kind of a
pain
> > starting from scratch every time.  What was the major difference between
> > 7.0 and 7.0-2, I might get a CD from cheapbytes and give that a whirl if
> > there
> > is any real difference.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Ron. [AU] - sent by Linux.
>

Re: [expert] system commander

[Mage Grimau]

Actually, a 7M partition works great for /boot.
I can't get fdisk to make a smaller one or I'd try it,
since /boot only seems to be using about 2M.

--- M Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You need to create a 20Mb partition that resides
> below the 1024th cylinder.  
> When installing Linux, mount this small partition as
> /boot.
> 
> 
> HTH,
> Matt
> 
> 
> >From: Lorne Schachter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: [expert] system commander
> >Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 16:56:11 -0500
> >
> ><< text1.html >>
> 
>
__
> Get Your Private, Free Email at
> http://www.hotmail.com
> 
> 

=
Mage Grimau, Strange Unwashed & Somewhat Slightly Dazed

__
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com

[expert] Different kernels

[Vern]

I am presently running kernel 2.2.14-1mdklinus, how do I
install 2.2.14-15mdk?  And what is the difference?  It 
looks
like almost everyone is using the 2.2.14-15mdk by the headers
in the emails.
Thanks in advance!
Vern
 

[expert] numbers lock on keypad

[Mike & Tracy Holt]

Hello,
I've been using Linux for a year now, and one thing I haven't ever tried
to get working is numbers lock on the keypad.  I've enabled 'numlock at
boot' on Mandrake 7.02, but when I start kde, I lose my numbers lock.
What's the best way to get this going?

Thanks,
Michael Holt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[expert] NAT... IPCHAINS & Mandrake 6.0

[Christopher Cox]

Sorry guys, me again,

I have a firewall set up, with Masquerading and the like working quite
nicely...very cool... 
But I need some basic NAT or inbound port redirection. 
Looking through IPCHAINS leaves me befuddled on how to accomplish this, any
idea's?

Thanks again.

Christopher Cox

Re: [expert] Linux/VMware Ram -- How much?

[Brian T. Schellenberger]

FWIW, sound was working for me in VMware 1.x, but it fails for me in
VMware 2.0.  I've entered a bug on this issue to VMware support just
yesterday; I'll let you know when I hear from them.

In the meantime you might want to see if you can find a copy of VMware
1.x.  Or just forget iabout it for a while.

Hey!  This is posting from Sunday but it just showed up today.  And
haven't you since dropped vmware?

I think there's a problem with these mailing lists . . .

On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, you wrote:
| Dear Kenneth and friends:
| 
| Well, do I feel like an idiot!
| 
| All I need to do is go in Configuration Editor to Memory and slide
| memory bar to the right or left to increase or decreate memory alloted
| to the Guest OS. Boy, do I feel bad. But I am so very grateful,
| nonetheless, for this priceless bit of information. Now can someone tell
| me, please, what is the path for the sound device. /dev/dsp doesn't seem
| to work. And my SB AWE64 works great in Linux.
| 
| Thanks a million.
| 
| Benjamin
| -- 
| Benjamin and Anna Sher
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sher's Russian Web
| http://www.websher.net
-- 
I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger).
I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org .
I boycott amazon.com.  See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .

Re: [expert] Memory upgrade

[Trevor Farrell]

"Joseph S. Gardner" wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> > thanks for the overwhelming amounts of replies.
> > Now the funny thing is that I have 2 boxes both LM7.02, on one the append
> > worked, on the other box, there was already an append in the lilo.conf, I
> > tried to add the mem=191M, and it accepted that when I ran /sbin/lilo, but
> > when I looked at the amount of Memory, no such luck.
> > Then took out the append statement that already existed, included my own
> > append statement, no such luck.
> > After that copied the lilo.conf from the other box to the one with the
> > problems. Again, no such luck.
> >
> > Any ideas???
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Fred de Klein
> >
>
> Fred,
>
> What does your append line look like for the machine that does NOT work?  If
> memory serves me it should be something like this:
>
> append="mem=191M","something_else=this"
>
> You'll need to check the archives or a man page for the exact punctuation but
> it should be enough to get you started.
>
> --
> Joseph S. Gardner
> Senior Designer / Technical Support
> Kirby Co.,  Cleveland, OH
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Linux is like a wigwam...
> No windows, no gates.
> Apache inside
>
> Registered linux user #1696600
> ICQ #63389227

My lilo.conf has a line like

append="mem=191M otheroption=this"

and it works fine.

Dumb question, did you run lilo after copying the conf file???

Re: [expert] WEIRD!

[Brian T. Schellenberger]

Not enough hard disk space, perhaps?

Mandrake will quietly omit packages based on a priority order if
there's not enough room.

I consider this a highly questionable feature in general and totally
wrong with an expert install, but that's what it does.

On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, you wrote:
| Hello all.
|   
|   I'm dealing with a WEIRD situation for 2 days.
|   Trying to install Mandrake Linux (7.02 ISO) on a Pentium 90, 32 Mb RAM
| (like 5 others on the lab) , I got a terminal with NO window managers. Only on this
| machine!
|   NONE. No Gnome, KDE or Widowmaker...
|   And I'm use the expert mode, and try to install ALL packages.
| 
|   What could be happening?
| 
| Thanx!
-- 
I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger).
I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org .
I boycott amazon.com.  See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .

[expert] List settings

[Brian T. Schellenberger]

Would it be possible to set up this list so that a (g)roup reply under
kmail  wouldn't send TWO copies to the list?

Perhaps the list software could just quietly delete one copy if two
indentical copies of the same piece of mail come in on the same path
within seconds of each other?

 -- 
I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger).
I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org .
I boycott amazon.com.  See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .

Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.02 is messed up.

[Brian T. Schellenberger]

First, I think you should send this to Mandrake, not to a user's group.

Second, if that's your attitude we'll all be happy to see you go.

OTOH, I have some sympathy for your attitude.  It seems to be very hard
to get a definitive answer to whether a problem has been fixed or not,
though I admit to being unsure of precisely what problem you are
complaining about.

On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Sean Armstrong wrote:
| For the life of me, I can not understand why Mandrake continues to ship a 
| defective product. If their older versions had no problem initializing 
| cdroms and their new version DOES have problems initializing cdroms, then 
| why not correct that part of the code with the older versions part of code? 
| I'm no computer genius, but this problem is asinine. With a competitive 
| market for Linux distributions that is growing everyday, it seems to me that 
| Mandrake can't afford to pissoff their customers. For that matter, with the 
| ever expanding market of computer OS's, now up to 4 reliable ones, I would 
| think that Mandrake would try to avoid driving their customers away. Once 
| again, Mandrake rushed an unfinished product to market. I guess in the world 
| of computers you don't have to have a real business plan or even understand 
| business to get ahead for a little while. So, until Mandrake decides to 
| correct these issues, I for on am going back to the more RELIABLE Redhat 
| distribution. At least their head isn't THAT far up their arse. Good Day and 
| Good Luck.
| SA
| __
| Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
-- 
I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger).
I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org .
I boycott amazon.com.  See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .

Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.02 is messed up.

[Sean Armstrong]

With all due respect, If you had read my earlier emails on this subject you 
would have seen that I have installed every Linux distribution out there and 
was even able to install the Mandrake 7.02 dist. on another computer. The so 
called bug is not 'my' mistake, but the mistake of Mandrake. They have had 
this problem with 7.0 since the Oxygen release, and even though many people 
complained of the problem to Mandrake they refused to fix the BUG!!! This is 
a corporate problem with Mandrake and they need to pull their respective 
heads out of their self righteous arses before they rush a BETA product to 
market under the guise of a final product. I probably would not be so 
irritated if they had a fix for the BUG, but they don't and like others, you 
have failed to give any helpful information on fixing the problem. Good Day 
and Good Luck.
SA


>From: "Mike & Tracy Holt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.02 is messed up.
>Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 05:58:46 -0800
>
>With all due respect, I've found that most of the time, the things that 
>I've
>considered "bugs" were simply my own lack of knowledge to make them work -
>I'm using Mandrake 7.02 and found it to be one of the most complete and 
>easy
>distribs available.  (Have used RedHat 6, SuSE 6.3 and now using the
>downloaded .iso image of Mandrake 7.02)
>Sincerely,
>Michael Holt
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Sean Armstrong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 4:10 AM
>Subject: [expert] Mandrake 7.02 is messed up.
>
>
> > For the life of me, I can not understand why Mandrake continues to ship 
>a
> > defective product. If their older versions had no problem initializing
> > cdroms and their new version DOES have problems initializing cdroms, 
>then
> > why not correct that part of the code with the older versions part of
>code?
> > I'm no computer genius, but this problem is asinine. With a competitive
> > market for Linux distributions that is growing everyday, it seems to me
>that
> > Mandrake can't afford to pissoff their customers. For that matter, with
>the
> > ever expanding market of computer OS's, now up to 4 reliable ones, I 
>would
> > think that Mandrake would try to avoid driving their customers away. 
>Once
> > again, Mandrake rushed an unfinished product to market. I guess in the
>world
> > of computers you don't have to have a real business plan or even
>understand
> > business to get ahead for a little while. So, until Mandrake decides to
> > correct these issues, I for on am going back to the more RELIABLE Redhat
> > distribution. At least their head isn't THAT far up their arse. Good Day
>and
> > Good Luck.
> > SA
> > __
> > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
> >
>

__
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Re: [expert] minicom permission

[John Aldrich]

On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, you wrote:
> 
> Thank you for the quick answer, however I was just enlightened to change the
> permissions on /usr/bin/minicom and that did the trick.  I will keep that in
> mind for the future though.
>
Ahh..Ok. That'd do it. :-)
John

Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.02 is messed up.

[Ray]

This is getting real old... I have installed Makdrake 7.02 on 15 machines so
far. From Pentium 120 to a dual Pentium III machine with no problems. I
understand that some people have problems but no OS can support every piece of
hardware. I would suggest if you run a version of Linux that you can get along
with instead of bashing Or maybe Windows is a better solution I understand
they support every piece of hardware.

On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, you wrote:
> With all due respect, If you had read my earlier emails on this subject you 
> would have seen that I have installed every Linux distribution out there and 
> was even able to install the Mandrake 7.02 dist. on another computer. The so 
> called bug is not 'my' mistake, but the mistake of Mandrake. They have had 
> this problem with 7.0 since the Oxygen release, and even though many people 
> complained of the problem to Mandrake they refused to fix the BUG!!! This is 
> a corporate problem with Mandrake and they need to pull their respective 
> heads out of their self righteous arses before they rush a BETA product to 
> market under the guise of a final product. I probably would not be so 
> irritated if they had a fix for the BUG, but they don't and like others, you 
> have failed to give any helpful information on fixing the problem. Good Day 
> and Good Luck.
> SA
> 
> 
> >From: "Mike & Tracy Holt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.02 is messed up.
> >Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 05:58:46 -0800
> >
> >With all due respect, I've found that most of the time, the things that 
> >I've
> >considered "bugs" were simply my own lack of knowledge to make them work -
> >I'm using Mandrake 7.02 and found it to be one of the most complete and 
> >easy
> >distribs available.  (Have used RedHat 6, SuSE 6.3 and now using the
> >downloaded .iso image of Mandrake 7.02)
> >Sincerely,
> >Michael Holt
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Sean Armstrong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 4:10 AM
> >Subject: [expert] Mandrake 7.02 is messed up.
> >
> >
> > > For the life of me, I can not understand why Mandrake continues to ship 
> >a
> > > defective product. If their older versions had no problem initializing
> > > cdroms and their new version DOES have problems initializing cdroms, 
> >then
> > > why not correct that part of the code with the older versions part of
> >code?
> > > I'm no computer genius, but this problem is asinine. With a competitive
> > > market for Linux distributions that is growing everyday, it seems to me
> >that
> > > Mandrake can't afford to pissoff their customers. For that matter, with
> >the
> > > ever expanding market of computer OS's, now up to 4 reliable ones, I 
> >would
> > > think that Mandrake would try to avoid driving their customers away. 
> >Once
> > > again, Mandrake rushed an unfinished product to market. I guess in the
> >world
> > > of computers you don't have to have a real business plan or even
> >understand
> > > business to get ahead for a little while. So, until Mandrake decides to
> > > correct these issues, I for on am going back to the more RELIABLE Redhat
> > > distribution. At least their head isn't THAT far up their arse. Good Day
> >and
> > > Good Luck.
> > > SA
> > > __
> > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
> > >
> >
> 
> __
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Re: [expert] Can someone please explain..

[Joseph S. Gardner]

James wrote:

> I've tried various X-windows interfaces and I am amazed to find that after
> browsing through KDE, GNOME, XFCE3, WindowMaker, Afterstep, ICEWM, and
> Plain_X11.. NONE of them have a windows properties selection that allows
> for the editing of screen resolution!  Unless it is hidden in some quiet
> corner of the X-windows design of each, there is no such utility!
>
> I am familiar with Xconfigurator, but while using Mandrake 7.02 I have
> found that my configurator will not allow me to set my resolution size
> manually.. it gives me an error even though it works (sort of) if I exit
> after settings have been made.  Though, I can't select 800x600 at high
> resolution.. so I have to settle with 8 bit default.
>
> Can someone please tell me why none of these wonderful X-windows programs
> have a setting to change screen resolution like Windows does?  Don't get
> me wrong, I am happier with Linux overall than I am with Windows.. but one
> would think the Linux community would have enough brains to make things
> easier to deal with than they currently are.
>
> Ok.. gripe is over.  Thanks.
>
> james

Have you given Drake config a bash yet.  Should be under the system  or
utility heading in both the K menu and the Utility menu in KDE

There is a selection to change resoltions and another one to change monitor /
video card / resolution set up.

--
Joseph S. Gardner
Senior Designer / Technical Support
Kirby Co.,  Cleveland, OH
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Linux is like a wigwam...
No windows, no gates.
Apache inside

Registered linux user #1696600
ICQ #63389227

RE: [expert] Memory upgrade

[John Aldrich]

On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, you wrote:
> Hello all,
> thanks for the overwhelming amounts of replies.
> Now the funny thing is that I have 2 boxes both LM7.02, on one the append
> worked, on the other box, there was already an append in the lilo.conf, I
> tried to add the mem=191M, and it accepted that when I ran /sbin/lilo, but
> when I looked at the amount of Memory, no such luck.
> Then took out the append statement that already existed, included my own
> append statement, no such luck.
> After that copied the lilo.conf from the other box to the one with the
> problems. Again, no such luck.
> 
> Any ideas???
> 
Try upgrading the bios. That's reported to work in a lot of
SMP machines which have this problem.
John

Re: [expert] openssh X11 Forwarding with Mdk7.0

[John Craig]

Hi,

I don't know what's wrong with the RPMS, but I had the same problem with
OpenSSH on a RedHat 6.1 system. I wound up uninstalling OpenSSH and
downloading, compiling and installing SSH1 and SSH2 source code from
www.ssh.org, and X11 forwarding works fine now. Another thing to note is
that OpenSSH is compatible with SSH1 but not SSH2. If you install both,
you can accept connnections from either ssh1 or ssh2 clients.

Lang Zhi wrote:

> I installed openssh mdk rpms. Its work except the X11 Forwarding part.
> I already enable it inside /etc/sshd/sshd_config and ssh_config.
>
> It give me the error :
>
> [lz2@kosh lz2]$ kedit
> X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
>
> Whats wrong here ?
>
> Thanks
> -lz
> __
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.02 is messed up.

[Sean Armstrong]

Maybe you enjoy a subpar product. This problem began with Oxygen, has 
continued through with Air and 7.02. That is three distributions that have 
had the same problem. The bug was not present in any Mandrake dist. BEFORE 
7.0. I've been talking on the Mandrake lists and to Mandrake themselves 
about this problem since the relese of Oxygen. 7.02 is just as good as BETA. 
If you wish to use a subpar product feel free. But I do not think this 
enhances the image of Linux, but rather, brings it down. Mandrake was in 
such a hurry to get out from under the shadow of Redhat that they rushed an 
unfinished product to market. I'm not the only one that has come across this 
'failure to initialize cdrom' issue. If the installers for Mandrake 6.1 can 
initialize this cdrom, then they ought include someof that cosde to overcome 
the problem. I am only trying to wake a blind community up before they 
become led around by the chain like winbloze slaves. The purpose of Linux 
was to develop a better, cheaper, more reliable OS, not rehash old problems.
SA

>From: Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.02 is messed up.
>Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 08:21:55 -0700
>
>This is getting real old... I have installed Makdrake 7.02 on 15 machines 
>so
>far. From Pentium 120 to a dual Pentium III machine with no problems. I
>understand that some people have problems but no OS can support every piece 
>of
>hardware. I would suggest if you run a version of Linux that you can get 
>along
>with instead of bashing Or maybe Windows is a better solution I 
>understand
>they support every piece of hardware.
>
>On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, you wrote:
> > With all due respect, If you had read my earlier emails on this subject 
>you
> > would have seen that I have installed every Linux distribution out there 
>and
> > was even able to install the Mandrake 7.02 dist. on another computer. 
>The so
> > called bug is not 'my' mistake, but the mistake of Mandrake. They have 
>had
> > this problem with 7.0 since the Oxygen release, and even though many 
>people
> > complained of the problem to Mandrake they refused to fix the BUG!!! 
>This is
> > a corporate problem with Mandrake and they need to pull their respective
> > heads out of their self righteous arses before they rush a BETA product 
>to
> > market under the guise of a final product. I probably would not be so
> > irritated if they had a fix for the BUG, but they don't and like others, 
>you
> > have failed to give any helpful information on fixing the problem. Good 
>Day
> > and Good Luck.
> > SA
> >
> >
> > >From: "Mike & Tracy Holt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.02 is messed up.
> > >Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 05:58:46 -0800
> > >
> > >With all due respect, I've found that most of the time, the things that
> > >I've
> > >considered "bugs" were simply my own lack of knowledge to make them 
>work -
> > >I'm using Mandrake 7.02 and found it to be one of the most complete and
> > >easy
> > >distribs available.  (Have used RedHat 6, SuSE 6.3 and now using the
> > >downloaded .iso image of Mandrake 7.02)
> > >Sincerely,
> > >Michael Holt
> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: "Sean Armstrong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 4:10 AM
> > >Subject: [expert] Mandrake 7.02 is messed up.
> > >
> > >
> > > > For the life of me, I can not understand why Mandrake continues to 
>ship
> > >a
> > > > defective product. If their older versions had no problem 
>initializing
> > > > cdroms and their new version DOES have problems initializing cdroms,
> > >then
> > > > why not correct that part of the code with the older versions part 
>of
> > >code?
> > > > I'm no computer genius, but this problem is asinine. With a 
>competitive
> > > > market for Linux distributions that is growing everyday, it seems to 
>me
> > >that
> > > > Mandrake can't afford to pissoff their customers. For that matter, 
>with
> > >the
> > > > ever expanding market of computer OS's, now up to 4 reliable ones, I
> > >would
> > > > think that Mandrake would try to avoid driving their customers away.
> > >Once
> > > > again, Mandrake rushed an unfinished product to market. I guess in 
>the
> > >world
> > > > of computers you don't have to have a real business plan or even
> > >understand
> > > > business to get ahead for a little while. So, until Mandrake decides 
>to
> > > > correct these issues, I for on am going back to the more RELIABLE 
>Redhat
> > > > distribution. At least their head isn't THAT far up their arse. Good 
>Day
> > >and
> > > > Good Luck.
> > > > SA
> > > > __
> > > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > __
> > Get Your Private, Free Email at 

Re: [expert] Connection problem

[Charles Curley]

On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 01:32:54PM -, Antoniou, Stylianos wrote:
-> Hi there,
-> I have configured two PCs (Mandrake7.0 & RedHat6.1) in my college network.
-> When the network cards are connected to the network sockets everything is
-> fine, I have access to the www from both and when I ping from one to the
-> other I can get a connection.
-> # ping 155.198.91.168
-> PING 155.198.91.168 (155.198.91.168) from 155.198.91.82 : 56(84) bytes of
-> data.
-> 64 bytes from 155.198.91.168 icmp_seq=0 tt164 time=4.2ms
-> 64 bytes from 155.198.91.168 icmp_seq=0 tt164 time=4.2ms
-> ...
-> However, when I directly connect the two network cards with one cable, the
-> connection is not established, i.e.
-> # ping 155.198.91.168
-> PING 155.198.91.168 (155.198.91.168) 56 bytes of data.
-> 
-> and nothing else. What am I missing?

Possibly what you are missing is that you need a different kind of cable
to go directly from computer to computer.

To go from a computer to a hub (the normal sort of connection) you need a
cable that is straight through: pin 1 to pin 1, etc.

To go from computer to computer, or hub to hub, you need a cable which has
wires crossed over in it, i.e. any given pin is not necessarily wired to
its opposite number. This type of cable is known by various names,
including "hub to hub" and "crossover".

I would suggest you buy an eight port 10/100BT hub; they are only about
$100 these days. If you want to plug back into the college net, get an IP
address for each machine and plug the cable to the network switch into the
uplink port of your hub. Or look at IP masquerading.


-- 

-- C^2

No windows were crashed in the making of this email.

Looking for fine software and/or web pages?
http://w3.trib.com/~ccurley

Re: [expert] KDE icons disappeared

[Glyn Millington]

Hi, don't pretend to be an expert but the simple act of installing
Mandrake 7 had similar effects for me.

In Midnight commander ("mc" from the command line) try checking
whether you have the same files in your root KDE setup as in "me"
home directory. And are they same size?  If not copy 'em over and
change the permissions for the lot at one go with something like

chown -R me /home/me/Desktop(or whichever!)

Well, it worked for me

HTH

Glyn


On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 01:08:02AM +1100, thus spake Trevor Farrell:
> 
> but only a few items (like logout) work. I can't open a terminal,
> refresh icons/desktop or anything. logging out & logging back in using
> gnome instead of KDE works (thats how I'm sending this) but I prefer
> KDE. Kde still works if I log in as root, just not as me!
> 
> Well, I hate to admit it, but I don't even know where to start looking,
> so can someone please tell me what to do to get things back!
> 
> Trevor
> 

-- 
   **
   * "The soul is greater than the hum of it's parts. " *
   * Douglas Hoftstatder*
   **

Re: [expert] Connection problem

[Ron]

On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, you wrote:

Stelios,

Just a thought, but are you using a crossover cable, rather than a standard
cable when connecting the two boxes?

> Hi there,
> I have configured two PCs (Mandrake7.0 & RedHat6.1) in my college network.
> When the network cards are connected to the network sockets everything is
> fine, I have access to the www from both and when I ping from one to the
> other I can get a connection.
> # ping 155.198.91.168
> PING 155.198.91.168 (155.198.91.168) from 155.198.91.82 : 56(84) bytes of
> data.
> 64 bytes from 155.198.91.168 icmp_seq=0 tt164 time=4.2ms
> 64 bytes from 155.198.91.168 icmp_seq=0 tt164 time=4.2ms
> ...
> HHowever, when I directly connect the two network cards with one cable, the
> connection is not established, i.e.
> # ping 155.198.91.168
> PING 155.198.91.168 (155.198.91.168) 56 bytes of data.
> 
> and nothing else. What am I missing?
> Thanks, in advance
> Stelios
--
__
Thank You
Ron Case

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 24352808

Re: [expert] Memory upgrade

[Tom Berkley]

Read the documentation. Here is the proper way to use append. Works
every time.

append="option1,option2,.."

each option is separated by commas and if you have multiple arguments in
an option use spaces to delimit them.

Tom

"Joseph S. Gardner" wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Hello all,
> > thanks for the overwhelming amounts of replies.
> > Now the funny thing is that I have 2 boxes both LM7.02, on one the append
> > worked, on the other box, there was already an append in the lilo.conf, I
> > tried to add the mem=191M, and it accepted that when I ran /sbin/lilo, but
> > when I looked at the amount of Memory, no such luck.
> > Then took out the append statement that already existed, included my own
> > append statement, no such luck.
> > After that copied the lilo.conf from the other box to the one with the
> > problems. Again, no such luck.
> >
> > Any ideas???
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Fred de Klein
> >
> 
> Fred,
> 
> What does your append line look like for the machine that does NOT work?  If
> memory serves me it should be something like this:
> 
> append="mem=191M","something_else=this"
> 
> You'll need to check the archives or a man page for the exact punctuation but
> it should be enough to get you started.
> 
> --
> Joseph S. Gardner
> Senior Designer / Technical Support
> Kirby Co.,  Cleveland, OH
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Linux is like a wigwam...
> No windows, no gates.
> Apache inside
> 
> Registered linux user #1696600
> ICQ #63389227

Re: [expert] KPPP vs Win98

[chunnuan chen]

Maybe you can apply for a  free account at www.freewwweb.com. It supports
Linux.

Vern wrote:

> Thanks Civileme for the quick reply!
> I can't believe it!  Another windoze "gotcha!"  is there any aspect of home
> computing they
> haven't tampered with to tilt the odds in their favor??  There are only
> three ISP's here locally
> and I have accounts with each.  Service is very bad and I have to go from
> one to another to
> get a connection to the "real world".  Things are improving we used to only
> have one ISP and
> if it was busy or the line was down you waited till later and tried again.
> If there is a problem
> and you call "tech support" they tell you to reinstall windoze, so finding
> anyone who knows
> about NetBIOS would be next to impossible.  I can't afford the long distance
> charges to reach
> a "real" ISP so I guess I'm stuck.  Thanks again for telling me what was
> going on anyway.
> Vern
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Civileme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 7:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [expert] KPPP vs Win98
>
> > Vern wrote:
> >
> > > Well here's maybe an easy one for you gurus to answer, I have thesame
> > > internet hookup from Mandrake 7.0 and Win98, but the mdkconnect gets
> > > "bumped" offline after 10-15 min. whether I'm browsingdownloading or
> > > getting email/newsgroups. Any clues? What tweaksam I missing?  MTU's?
> > > port speed?  don't know where to find outabout the UART's and buffers
> > > in Linux yet, so I don't know.  I can stayhooked up to the same ISP's
> > > for hours with Win98, I do know that theyall use Win NT servers (it
> > > says so right in the details).  This may be oldstuff, but I haven't
> > > run across it yet.Thanks in advance.Vern
> >
> > Find a different ISP.  This is a little NetBIOS check "to prevent IP
> > spoofing" that Microsoft cheerfully supplies to brain damaged ISPs.  15
> > minutes is the shortest interval I have heard of, but the symptoms are
> > the same for cable modems and even some dsl's.  Or contact your ISP and
> > see if you can find someone competent to disable this "feature" for
> > you.  If they all have their MCSE's from the back of a matchbook,
> > probably they will be unable to help you.
> >
> > Civileme
> >
> >

Re: [expert] Yamaha OPL3-SAx Sound Card

[kaygee]

Simon,
Have you loaded all of these modules (they're essential).

soundcore
soundlow
sound
opl3
mpu401
ad1848
opl3sa2

I have a Yahama ISA card and I have to load all these modules in order to
get it to work.  Usually sndconfig loads the correct ones but you might
want to check to make sure.  Also, sndconfig can't work unless these are
modules, i.e. you can't compile them directly into the kernel and then set
up your soundcard using sndconfig. Hope this helps.

Keith
--
There's ease of use and then there's ease of usefulness.
Choose usefulness. Choose Linux.

On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Simon Robertson wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I run 'soundconfig' in an Xterm each time i configure my sound, it
> brings up a Yamaha OPL3-SAx driver which it is, and thus makes a mixer
> available to adjust volume and the CD-Player then works. Though enabling
> sound in KDE Control Centre and trying to play any sounds or having
> sound enabled in Windows through VMware, freezes linux at a point when
> sound and a command are occuring at the same time. The only way to
> escape this freeze is to totally reboot and go through a forced check,
> very time consuming.
> 
> I have compiled several kernels in the past, but each time I select my
> sound card either modulized or not, or even with different settings,
> everytime it is failing and eventually I need to recompile with no sound
> card selected and use 'soundconfig' in an Xterm.
> 
> Lothar was just the same, could see the card, knew the settings, but as
> soon as you press enter a 'FAIL' comes up and no matter what changes you
> make to the settings it always comes back the same.
> 
> Does anyone out there have any suggestions or know if Kernel 2.4 is
> going to be any better.
> 
> Thankyou, if you can help,
> 
> Simon.
> 
> 

RE: [expert] Connection problem

[james.fogg]

Well... working with some assumptions...

To connect two NICs together without benefit of a hub, you will need a
crossover cable (pins 1&2 to pins 3&6 and pins 3&6 to pins 1&2 I think).
Another thing that can bite you is your subnet mask. Both machines need to
be a member of the same IP network number. If your mask is 255.255.255.0,
you are all right.

-Original Message-
From: Antoniou, Stylianos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 8:33 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: [expert] Connection problem


Hi there,
I have configured two PCs (Mandrake7.0 & RedHat6.1) in my college network.
When the network cards are connected to the network sockets everything is
fine, I have access to the www from both and when I ping from one to the
other I can get a connection.
# ping 155.198.91.168
PING 155.198.91.168 (155.198.91.168) from 155.198.91.82 : 56(84) bytes of
data.
64 bytes from 155.198.91.168 icmp_seq=0 tt164 time=4.2ms
64 bytes from 155.198.91.168 icmp_seq=0 tt164 time=4.2ms
...
However, when I directly connect the two network cards with one cable, the
connection is not established, i.e.
# ping 155.198.91.168
PING 155.198.91.168 (155.198.91.168) 56 bytes of data.

and nothing else. What am I missing?
Thanks, in advance
Stelios

Re: [expert] Connection problem

[chunnuan chen]

You need a cross-over cable.
Chunnuan

"Antoniou, Stylianos" wrote:

> Hi there,
> I have configured two PCs (Mandrake7.0 & RedHat6.1) in my college network.
> When the network cards are connected to the network sockets everything is
> fine, I have access to the www from both and when I ping from one to the
> other I can get a connection.
> # ping 155.198.91.168
> PING 155.198.91.168 (155.198.91.168) from 155.198.91.82 : 56(84) bytes of
> data.
> 64 bytes from 155.198.91.168 icmp_seq=0 tt164 time=4.2ms
> 64 bytes from 155.198.91.168 icmp_seq=0 tt164 time=4.2ms
> ...
> However, when I directly connect the two network cards with one cable, the
> connection is not established, i.e.
> # ping 155.198.91.168
> PING 155.198.91.168 (155.198.91.168) 56 bytes of data.
>
> and nothing else. What am I missing?
> Thanks, in advance
> Stelios

Re: [expert] Connection problem

[kaygee]

He's right,
You need a crossover cable for a direct connection, although I'm not sure
I agree with his suggestion that you buy a hub if you only have two
computers.  I'd just go with the crossover cable being a college student
myself:)

Keith
--
There's ease of use and then there's ease of usefulness.
Choose usefulness. Choose Linux.

On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Charles Curley wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 01:32:54PM -, Antoniou, Stylianos wrote:
> -> Hi there,
> -> I have configured two PCs (Mandrake7.0 & RedHat6.1) in my college network.
> -> When the network cards are connected to the network sockets everything is
> -> fine, I have access to the www from both and when I ping from one to the
> -> other I can get a connection.
> -> # ping 155.198.91.168
> -> PING 155.198.91.168 (155.198.91.168) from 155.198.91.82 : 56(84) bytes of
> -> data.
> -> 64 bytes from 155.198.91.168 icmp_seq=0 tt164 time=4.2ms
> -> 64 bytes from 155.198.91.168 icmp_seq=0 tt164 time=4.2ms
> -> ...
> -> However, when I directly connect the two network cards with one cable, the
> -> connection is not established, i.e.
> -> # ping 155.198.91.168
> -> PING 155.198.91.168 (155.198.91.168) 56 bytes of data.
> -> 
> -> and nothing else. What am I missing?
> 
> Possibly what you are missing is that you need a different kind of cable
> to go directly from computer to computer.
> 
> To go from a computer to a hub (the normal sort of connection) you need a
> cable that is straight through: pin 1 to pin 1, etc.
> 
> To go from computer to computer, or hub to hub, you need a cable which has
> wires crossed over in it, i.e. any given pin is not necessarily wired to
> its opposite number. This type of cable is known by various names,
> including "hub to hub" and "crossover".
> 
> I would suggest you buy an eight port 10/100BT hub; they are only about
> $100 these days. If you want to plug back into the college net, get an IP
> address for each machine and plug the cable to the network switch into the
> uplink port of your hub. Or look at IP masquerading.
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
>   -- C^2
> 
> No windows were crashed in the making of this email.
> 
> Looking for fine software and/or web pages?
> http://w3.trib.com/~ccurley
> 

Re: [expert] Can someone please explain..

[Tom Berkley]

What video adapter are you using, how much memory is on it, and what
monitor?

Usually Xconfigurator is very intelligent about probing the card and
finding what's there. You may not have the resources to do what you
want.

Tom


James wrote:
> 
> I've tried various X-windows interfaces and I am amazed to find that after
> browsing through KDE, GNOME, XFCE3, WindowMaker, Afterstep, ICEWM, and
> Plain_X11.. NONE of them have a windows properties selection that allows
> for the editing of screen resolution!  Unless it is hidden in some quiet
> corner of the X-windows design of each, there is no such utility!
> 
> I am familiar with Xconfigurator, but while using Mandrake 7.02 I have
> found that my configurator will not allow me to set my resolution size
> manually.. it gives me an error even though it works (sort of) if I exit
> after settings have been made.  Though, I can't select 800x600 at high
> resolution.. so I have to settle with 8 bit default.
> 
> Can someone please tell me why none of these wonderful X-windows programs
> have a setting to change screen resolution like Windows does?  Don't get
> me wrong, I am happier with Linux overall than I am with Windows.. but one
> would think the Linux community would have enough brains to make things
> easier to deal with than they currently are.
> 
> Ok.. gripe is over.  Thanks.
> 
> james

Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.02 is messed up.

[Tom Berkley]

Sean

I cannot relate at all to what you are talking about. After 1 year
playing with linux and using five different distros, I use Mandrake 7.0
(GL edition) on both my laptop and my dual celeron smp box with only one
problem that I had to work around. Mandrake 7.0 is a stud muffin linux
and if you cannot get it to work, then you probably did not pay any
attention to the hardware compatibility issues. Learn more and quit
venting your frustrations here. There is a LOT of documentation and you
have a lot of reading ahead of you.

Tom

Sean Armstrong wrote:
> 
> For the life of me, I can not understand why Mandrake continues to ship a
> defective product. If their older versions had no problem initializing
> cdroms and their new version DOES have problems initializing cdroms, then
> why not correct that part of the code with the older versions part of code?
> I'm no computer genius, but this problem is asinine. With a competitive
> market for Linux distributions that is growing everyday, it seems to me that
> Mandrake can't afford to pissoff their customers. For that matter, with the
> ever expanding market of computer OS's, now up to 4 reliable ones, I would
> think that Mandrake would try to avoid driving their customers away. Once
> again, Mandrake rushed an unfinished product to market. I guess in the world
> of computers you don't have to have a real business plan or even understand
> business to get ahead for a little while. So, until Mandrake decides to
> correct these issues, I for on am going back to the more RELIABLE Redhat
> distribution. At least their head isn't THAT far up their arse. Good Day and
> Good Luck.
> SA
> __
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.02 is messed up.

[Dan Swartzendruber]

I have to say I see Sean's POV (although he may have stated the case a 
little strongly).  I do Sw maintenance for a living, and in my business, if 
something worked in Rev X, and doesn't work in Rev X+1, that is a 
bug.  Specifically, a regression, since someone broke code/functionality 
that used to work.  I understand their desire to get the product out the 
door, but at some point, quality has to be at least a secondary priority.

Re: [expert] system commander

[Charles Curley]

On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 04:56:11PM -0500, Lorne Schachter wrote:




Lorne, would you please turn off HTML mail for lists, including this one.

Do you mean block or cylinder? Linux' boot partition has to be at
cylinders all less than 1024.


-- 

-- C^2

No windows were crashed in the making of this email.

Looking for fine software and/or web pages?
http://w3.trib.com/~ccurley

Re: [expert] Connection problem

[Joseph S. Gardner]

"Antoniou, Stylianos" wrote:

> Hi there,
> I have configured two PCs (Mandrake7.0 & RedHat6.1) in my college network.
> When the network cards are connected to the network sockets everything is
> fine, I have access to the www from both and when I ping from one to the
> other I can get a connection.
> # ping 155.198.91.168
> PING 155.198.91.168 (155.198.91.168) from 155.198.91.82 : 56(84) bytes of
> data.
> 64 bytes from 155.198.91.168 icmp_seq=0 tt164 time=4.2ms
> 64 bytes from 155.198.91.168 icmp_seq=0 tt164 time=4.2ms
> ...
> However, when I directly connect the two network cards with one cable, the
> connection is not established, i.e.
> # ping 155.198.91.168
> PING 155.198.91.168 (155.198.91.168) 56 bytes of data.
>
> and nothing else. What am I missing?
> Thanks, in advance
> Stelios

You need a cross-over cable when connecting directly between  two machines.
You can purchase these or do a search on the net to find instructions to build
your own.


--
Joseph S. Gardner
Senior Designer / Technical Support
Kirby Co.,  Cleveland, OH
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Linux is like a wigwam...
No windows, no gates.
Apache inside

Registered linux user #1696600
ICQ #63389227

Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.02 is messed up.

[Sean Armstrong]

I'm referring to the problem that Mandrake 7.00 7.01 7.02 installers have 
initializing 'some' atapi cdroms. I have no clue why this is and Mandrake 
refuses to fix or even help someone fix this bug when they could obviously 
take some code from earlier distributions, but then they wish to get ou from 
underneath the RedHat shadow. I've tried to get this problem fixed, I've 
talked with some people on this list and at Mandrake and 'noone' seems to 
have a fix for it. I'm not hte only person that has run across this problem 
and I posted this message to the list to inform people of what a shoddy 
product Mandrake released in hopes that the masses could possibly help solve 
this problem instead of being led around by the corporate chain and 
believing that Mandrake has produced this 'wonderful' product. THAT is part 
of the purpose of lists like this. I'm not whining about the problem, I'm 
simply fed up with 'subpar' service by and industry that is part of the 
customer service industry. I guess you can't expect people to put forth a 
good effort on something that is free.
SA
>From: Brian T. Schellenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Sean Armstrong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.02 is messed up.
>Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:57:43 -0500
>
>
>First, I think you should send this to Mandrake, not to a user's group.
>
>Second, if that's your attitude we'll all be happy to see you go.
>
>OTOH, I have some sympathy for your attitude.  It seems to be very hard
>to get a definitive answer to whether a problem has been fixed or not,
>though I admit to being unsure of precisely what problem you are
>complaining about.
>
>On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Sean Armstrong wrote:
>| For the life of me, I can not understand why Mandrake continues to ship a
>| defective product. If their older versions had no problem initializing
>| cdroms and their new version DOES have problems initializing cdroms, then
>| why not correct that part of the code with the older versions part of 
>code?
>| I'm no computer genius, but this problem is asinine. With a competitive
>| market for Linux distributions that is growing everyday, it seems to me 
>that
>| Mandrake can't afford to pissoff their customers. For that matter, with 
>the
>| ever expanding market of computer OS's, now up to 4 reliable ones, I 
>would
>| think that Mandrake would try to avoid driving their customers away. Once
>| again, Mandrake rushed an unfinished product to market. I guess in the 
>world
>| of computers you don't have to have a real business plan or even 
>understand
>| business to get ahead for a little while. So, until Mandrake decides to
>| correct these issues, I for on am going back to the more RELIABLE Redhat
>| distribution. At least their head isn't THAT far up their arse. Good Day 
>and
>| Good Luck.
>| SA
>| __
>| Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>--
>I am "Brian, the man from babble-on" (Brian T. Schellenberger).
>I can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
>I support http://www.eff.org & http://www.programming-freedom.org .
>I boycott amazon.com.  See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html .

__
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Re: [expert] KDE icons disappeared

[Alan Shoemaker]

Trevorsorry I tipped you to a technique that has caused you
trouble!  I use this method to temporarily become root in a
second xsession all the time.  I've never had any problems with
it.  So I'm sorry also, that I've no helpful suggestions for
you.

Alan


Trevor Farrell wrote:
> 
> OK, I don't know what is going on, but this is my 6th attempt at getting
> 
> this through to the list!  I've tried different mailservers, using "new
> msg"
> & "reply", and several changes of text/subject. Other emails are going
> out OK, just not this
> one! My apologies if the floodgates suddenly burst and all 6 hit the
> list.
> 
> Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> 
> > Seanthat has been doable for a long time.  Use this syntax:
> > 'startx -- :x'.  Your original session defaults to x=0, the next
> > should be x=1 etc.  Ctl-alt f7-f12 accesses the x-sessions
> > whereas ctl-alt f1-f6 accesses the consoles you started the
> > x-sessions in.
> >
> 
> Well, I thought this was too good to be true, so I tried it...
> 
> Logged onto tty2 as root, did startx -- :1 and was real impressed to see
> 
> KDE start up as root. Yes, Ctrl-Alt-F7 took me back to KDE logged in as
> me. WOW it worked (so far...).
> 
> Then, Ctrl-Alt-F8 took me to a black screen - keyboard num-lock light
> went out, tried every key combo I could think of to get some response,
> even a num-lock or caps-lock light would have been good, but the only
> thing that worked was Ctrl-Alt-Del to reboot - with the screen dead, the
> 
> system appeared to shut down properly-  plenty of drive action - but no
> reboot - so I had to use the power switch (shades of M$ Windows...).
> 
> When I restarted the box, it reported that the disc was not unmounted
> cleanly & did its checking - finally giving a status of "passed".
> Everything works normally now, except that when I'm logged into KDE as
> me, no icons & I can't execute programs - the panel & K menus are there,
> 
> but only a few items (like logout) work. I can't open a terminal,
> refresh icons/desktop or anything. logging out & logging back in using
> gnome instead of KDE works (thats how I'm sending this) but I prefer
> KDE. Kde still works if I log in as root, just not as me!
> 
> Well, I hate to admit it, but I don't even know where to start looking,
> so can someone please tell me what to do to get things back!
> 
> Trevor

RE: [expert] Memory upgrade

[fred . deklein]

Joseph,
if my memory serves me correct it is:
append="hdc=scsi-ide","mem191M"
But I did try the append Memory on its own as well.
I'll just try experimenting a little bit more tonight.

Regards
 
Fred de Klein
 
tel: 01908 656106 (w)
  0780 8254445(mob)
http://www.bigfoot.com/~klein_it  


-Original Message-
From: Joseph S. Gardner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 21 March 2000 12:52
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Memory upgrade


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hello all,
> thanks for the overwhelming amounts of replies.
> Now the funny thing is that I have 2 boxes both LM7.02, on one the append
> worked, on the other box, there was already an append in the lilo.conf, I
> tried to add the mem=191M, and it accepted that when I ran /sbin/lilo, but
> when I looked at the amount of Memory, no such luck.
> Then took out the append statement that already existed, included my own
> append statement, no such luck.
> After that copied the lilo.conf from the other box to the one with the
> problems. Again, no such luck.
>
> Any ideas???
>
> Regards
>
> Fred de Klein
>

Fred,

What does your append line look like for the machine that does NOT work?  If
memory serves me it should be something like this:

append="mem=191M","something_else=this"

You'll need to check the archives or a man page for the exact punctuation
but
it should be enough to get you started.


--
Joseph S. Gardner
Senior Designer / Technical Support
Kirby Co.,  Cleveland, OH
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Linux is like a wigwam...
No windows, no gates.
Apache inside

Registered linux user #1696600
ICQ #63389227

Re: [expert] Can someone please explain..

[Rial Juan]

Well, I'm no expert, but it all boils down to this:

In linux there's a clear separation between the X-server and the
windowmanager. the windowmanager does everything that involves windows and
stuff, eg: creating borders around them zo you can drag 'em; resising them,
minimizing them etc... and also of the other applets and "menubar" thingies
typically assiciated with them.

The X-server does the hardware side of the stuff, and then some more too. It
takes care of the rendering of whatever should be visible on the screen, and
what resolutions you run. Therefore no windowmanager has any tools for
changing resolution. Resolutions must be defined before you start up your X
server (they get written down in /etc/X11/Xf86Config) and you can change them
with ctrl-alt-plus and ctrl-alt-minus.


On Mar 21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I've tried various X-windows interfaces and I am amazed to find that after
> browsing through KDE, GNOME, XFCE3, WindowMaker, Afterstep, ICEWM, and
> Plain_X11.. NONE of them have a windows properties selection that allows
> for the editing of screen resolution!  Unless it is hidden in some quiet
> corner of the X-windows design of each, there is no such utility!
> 
> I am familiar with Xconfigurator, but while using Mandrake 7.02 I have
> found that my configurator will not allow me to set my resolution size
> manually.. it gives me an error even though it works (sort of) if I exit
> after settings have been made.  Though, I can't select 800x600 at high
> resolution.. so I have to settle with 8 bit default.
> 
> Can someone please tell me why none of these wonderful X-windows programs
> have a setting to change screen resolution like Windows does?  Don't get
> me wrong, I am happier with Linux overall than I am with Windows.. but one
> would think the Linux community would have enough brains to make things
> easier to deal with than they currently are.
> 
> Ok.. gripe is over.  Thanks.
> 
> james
> 
> 

-- 

Rial Juan
e-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Belgiumtel:(++32) 89/856533
ulyssis system admininstrator   

The little critters in nature; they don't know they're ugly.
That's very funny... A fly marying a bumble-bee...



Sign the petition at http://www.libranet.com/petition.html
Help bring us more Linux Drivers

Re: [expert] WEIRD!

[Rial Juan]

TRy creating a file in your homedir called .xinitrc, and put "kde" in it as
single line if you want kde, or "enlightenment" if that's more your kind of
windowmanager.

Since you have no windowmanager, you'll need a console editor. You can edit at
the console with many programs; for example "joe", which is fairly simple (at
least compared to vi). To save with joe, you need to type CTRL-k followed by
CTRL-x.

So in your case: "joe .xinitrc" will do the job.


On Mar 21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
>   Hello all.
>   
>   I'm dealing with a WEIRD situation for 2 days.
>   Trying to install Mandrake Linux (7.02 ISO) on a Pentium 90, 32 Mb RAM
> (like 5 others on the lab) , I got a terminal with NO window managers. Only on this
> machine!
>   NONE. No Gnome, KDE or Widowmaker...
>   And I'm use the expert mode, and try to install ALL packages.
> 
>   What could be happening?
> 
> Thanx!
> 

-- 

Rial Juan
e-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Belgiumtel:(++32) 89/856533
ulyssis system admininstrator   

The little critters in nature; they don't know they're ugly.
That's very funny... A fly marying a bumble-bee...



Sign the petition at http://www.libranet.com/petition.html
Help bring us more Linux Drivers

[expert] shutdown..

[Ted Wager]

Hi..
When I do a shutdown -h now the system shutsdown the various file
systems and then says system is halted..After this mine says..stopping all md
devices, the screen then is filled with columns of scrolling numbers like
d3>][]Could anyone tell me how to avoid this..
It does not seem to affect the shutdown as I do not get a warning message on
reboot..I tried a sync sync before shutdown but it made no difference..

   Regards Ted
  
Ted Wager...Mandrake Linux 7
  g3tpi.ampr.org  44.131.147.8


 OS From :- www.eridani.co.uk

[expert] Printer accounting

[Suppiluliuma]

Hello!
I'm looking for solution to my problem. The problem is that I want 
to know who uses printer and how much paper/ink my users waste. I've
learned that adding line:
:af=/var/log/printeracc:
to /etc/printcap is not enough. This line only describes parameter
passed to print filter to be used as accounting file. However standard
filter that comes with distribution does not know about
accounting. Therefore I have a couple of questions:
0. Am I doing something wrong?
1. Where can I find printing filter that does accounting?
2. If above is not possible then where can I find info on accounting
data format that filter should write to accounting file? (so I can use
standard tools like pac)
3. Is there any other solution to the problem?

Thanks in advance
Suppiluliuma

-- 
Registered Linux user #166697
visit http://counter.li.org to register
Sign the petition at http://www.libranet.com/petition.html
Help us bring more Linux Drivers

Re: [expert] WEIRD!

[Leonardo T. de Carvalho]

On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, you wrote:
> Not enough hard disk space, perhaps?
> 
> Mandrake will quietly omit packages based on a priority order if
> there's not enough room.
> 
> I consider this a highly questionable feature in general and totally
> wrong with an expert install, but that's what it does.
> 

I thought about it too... But I'm using 2 hard disks,
(1 Gb + 800 M) , and after teh installation, none get more
than 40% occupied..

Re: [expert] Connection problem

[Civileme]

"Antoniou, Stylianos" wrote:

> Hi there,
> I have configured two PCs (Mandrake7.0 & RedHat6.1) in my college network.
> When the network cards are connected to the network sockets everything is
> fine, I have access to the www from both and when I ping from one to the
> other I can get a connection.
> # ping 155.198.91.168
> PING 155.198.91.168 (155.198.91.168) from 155.198.91.82 : 56(84) bytes of
> data.
> 64 bytes from 155.198.91.168 icmp_seq=0 tt164 time=4.2ms
> 64 bytes from 155.198.91.168 icmp_seq=0 tt164 time=4.2ms
> ...
> However, when I directly connect the two network cards with one cable, the
> connection is not established, i.e.
> # ping 155.198.91.168
> PING 155.198.91.168 (155.198.91.168) 56 bytes of data.
>
> and nothing else. What am I missing?
> Thanks, in advance
> Stelios

Call it a cabling problem.  Either use normal cables connected to a hub or
use a crossover cable for direct connect; or, if you have the BNC connectors
on both cards, a short run of 50-ohm coax with T-style connectors (the
feed-thru on each end to a terminating resistor and the middle of the T to
the card).  What you see with a normal cable between two cards is transmit
hooked to transmit and receive hooked to receive, which will NOT work.

Civileme

Re: [expert] KDE icons disappeared

[Civileme]

Trevor Farrell wrote:

> OK, I don't know what is going on, but this is my 6th attempt at getting
>
> this through to the list!  I've tried different mailservers, using "new
> msg"
> & "reply", and several changes of text/subject. Other emails are going
> out OK, just not this
> one! My apologies if the floodgates suddenly burst and all 6 hit the
> list.
>
> Alan Shoemaker wrote:
>
> > Seanthat has been doable for a long time.  Use this syntax:
> > 'startx -- :x'.  Your original session defaults to x=0, the next
> > should be x=1 etc.  Ctl-alt f7-f12 accesses the x-sessions
> > whereas ctl-alt f1-f6 accesses the consoles you started the
> > x-sessions in.
> >
>
> Well, I thought this was too good to be true, so I tried it...
>
> Logged onto tty2 as root, did startx -- :1 and was real impressed to see
>
> KDE start up as root. Yes, Ctrl-Alt-F7 took me back to KDE logged in as
> me. WOW it worked (so far...).
>
> Then, Ctrl-Alt-F8 took me to a black screen - keyboard num-lock light
> went out, tried every key combo I could think of to get some response,
> even a num-lock or caps-lock light would have been good, but the only
> thing that worked was Ctrl-Alt-Del to reboot - with the screen dead, the
>
> system appeared to shut down properly-  plenty of drive action - but no
> reboot - so I had to use the power switch (shades of M$ Windows...).
>
> When I restarted the box, it reported that the disc was not unmounted
> cleanly & did its checking - finally giving a status of "passed".
> Everything works normally now, except that when I'm logged into KDE as
> me, no icons & I can't execute programs - the panel & K menus are there,
>
> but only a few items (like logout) work. I can't open a terminal,
> refresh icons/desktop or anything. logging out & logging back in using
> gnome instead of KDE works (thats how I'm sending this) but I prefer
> KDE. Kde still works if I log in as root, just not as me!
>
> Well, I hate to admit it, but I don't even know where to start looking,
> so can someone please tell me what to do to get things back!
>
> Trevor

The KDE icons and settings load fresh if they aren't already there.  You
can do this with safety though you will lose your (now
unreachable) customized KDE settings for your user and have to re-establish
them.

$ cd ~
$ rm -f -R ~/.kde
$ startx


Of course as root you could use kfm, set it to view hidden files, navigate
to the user directory and right click the .kde folder selecting delete,
then log in as that user and KDE will rebuild itself.


:-)

Civileme

Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.02 is messed up.

[Wolfgang Bornath]

On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 09:12 -0800, Tom Berkley wrote:
> Sean
> 
> I cannot relate at all to what you are talking about. After 1 year
> playing with linux and using five different distros, I use Mandrake 7.0
> (GL edition) on both my laptop and my dual celeron smp box with only one
> problem that I had to work around. Mandrake 7.0 is a stud muffin linux
> and if you cannot get it to work, then you probably did not pay any
> attention to the hardware compatibility issues. Learn more and quit
> venting your frustrations here. There is a LOT of documentation and you
> have a lot of reading ahead of you.

Well, Sean might have a point in what he writes (although I'm
not very pleased of his style). He might, but I found something
out concerning this "cannot initiate cdrom" problem.

I picked up a PowerPack on Feb 1st at the MandrakeSoft office.
It's a "real" 7.0 with the bug in DrakX which was fixed in 7.02.

It installed without probs from a generic atapi cdrom drive and
from a Plextor SCSI cdrom drive as well as from my SCSI Plextor
CD-writer.

Then I made several copies of the installation cd to try several
brands of cd-r. Made all copies with the same versions of
mkisofs and cdrecord.

Outcome was (and here I'm getting back OnTopic) that some copies
installed w/o probs and some copies gave me that "failed to
initiate cdrom" error message.

So, could it be that this problem is not only caused by a
hardware incompatibility but also by using "incompatible" cd-r
media? If so, then Sean's complaints may really matching his
style. If not so, then just put this mail into /dev/nul and
forget it.

Hope this mail gets through to the list. The last four(!) did
not.  

wobo
-- 
GPG-Fingerprint: FE5A 0891 7027 8D1B 4E3F  73C1 AD9B D732 A698 82EE
For Public Key mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: GPG-Request
---
ISDN4LINUX-FAQ -- Deutsch: http://www.wolf-b.de/i4l/i4lfaq-de.html

[expert] SSH for neophytes?

[Charles Curley]

Has anyone got a place where people who don't know a danged thing about
SSH can read up on it? I can see where it would be useful & want to learn
about it now before I need to.

Thanks

-- 

-- C^2

No windows were crashed in the making of this email.

Looking for fine software and/or web pages?
http://w3.trib.com/~ccurley

Re: [expert] Can someone please explain..

[John Aldrich]

On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, you wrote:
> I've tried various X-windows interfaces and I am amazed to find that after
> browsing through KDE, GNOME, XFCE3, WindowMaker, Afterstep, ICEWM, and
> Plain_X11.. NONE of them have a windows properties selection that allows
> for the editing of screen resolution!  Unless it is hidden in some quiet
> corner of the X-windows design of each, there is no such utility!
> 
> I am familiar with Xconfigurator, but while using Mandrake 7.02 I have
> found that my configurator will not allow me to set my resolution size
> manually.. it gives me an error even though it works (sort of) if I exit
> after settings have been made.  Though, I can't select 800x600 at high
> resolution.. so I have to settle with 8 bit default.
> 
What video card / monitor do you have and how much RAM do
you have on the video card? That would explain why your
computer isn't allowing 800x600 at 32bpp. Or, you can try
this...manually edit your XF86Config file. Make 800x600
your FIRST option on each color depth, then, assuming you
boot to console and then to X, try "startx -- -bpp 16"
(minus quotes) and that should give you 16bpp at 800x600.
Then, if that works, shut down and re-run startx with a
"-bpp 24" instead of 16. Then try it with -bpp 32 for
32bits per pixel.
John

Re: [expert] Can someone please explain..

[Wolfgang Bornath]

On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 19:02 +0100, Rial Juan wrote:
> 
> Well, I'm no expert, but it all boils down to this:
> 
> In linux there's a clear separation between the X-server and the
> windowmanager. the windowmanager does everything that involves windows and
> stuff, eg: creating borders around them zo you can drag 'em; resising them,
> minimizing them etc... and also of the other applets and "menubar" thingies
> typically assiciated with them.
> 
> The X-server does the hardware side of the stuff, and then some more too. It
> takes care of the rendering of whatever should be visible on the screen, and
> what resolutions you run. Therefore no windowmanager has any tools for
> changing resolution. Resolutions must be defined before you start up your X
> server (they get written down in /etc/X11/Xf86Config) and you can change them
> with ctrl-alt-plus and ctrl-alt-minus.
 
You *did* explain that like an expert though ;-)

And to help James a bit further on:

Load /etc/X11/XF86Config into your favourite editor.
Got to the "Screen section"
In the part where your graphics card is mentioned you edit the
lines starting with "Modes ..." in each subsection.

It should look something like this:

Section "Screen"
Driver "accel"
Device  "RIVA128"
Monitor "EIZO FlexScan F56"
DefaultColorDepth 16
Subsection "Display"
Depth   8
Modes   "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x400"
ViewPort0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth   16
Modes   "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth   24
Modes   "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth   32
Modes   "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort0 0
EndSubsection
EndSection

After saving the file you just restart your X-Server (i.e.
logout of KDE or any other wm).
Then you can change resolutions by punching Ctrl+Alt+[+|-]. Note
that you must use the +/- keys of the num-block.

HTH

wobo
-- 
GPG-Fingerprint: FE5A 0891 7027 8D1B 4E3F  73C1 AD9B D732 A698 82EE
For Public Key mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: GPG-Request
---
ISDN4LINUX-FAQ -- Deutsch: http://www.wolf-b.de/i4l/i4lfaq-de.html

Re: [expert] Memory upgrade

[Joseph S. Gardner]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Joseph,
> if my memory serves me correct it is:
> append="hdc=scsi-ide","mem191M"
> But I did try the append Memory on its own as well.
> I'll just try experimenting a little bit more tonight.
>
> Regards
>
> Fred de Klein
>
> tel: 01908 656106 (w)
>   0780 8254445(mob)
> http://www.bigfoot.com/~klein_it 
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Joseph S. Gardner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 21 March 2000 12:52
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [expert] Memory upgrade
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> > thanks for the overwhelming amounts of replies.
> > Now the funny thing is that I have 2 boxes both LM7.02, on one the append
> > worked, on the other box, there was already an append in the lilo.conf, I
> > tried to add the mem=191M, and it accepted that when I ran /sbin/lilo, but
> > when I looked at the amount of Memory, no such luck.
> > Then took out the append statement that already existed, included my own
> > append statement, no such luck.
> > After that copied the lilo.conf from the other box to the one with the
> > problems. Again, no such luck.
> >
> > Any ideas???
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Fred de Klein
> >
>
>

Fred,

I've been told it should look more like this

append="mem=191M hdc=scsi-ide"

with only a space separating the 191M  and the hdc=

but check your man pages to be certain also be certain to make your changes as
root and close the file from your editor (this burned me for about a week -
tried to save me some time when trying different options) and rerun lilo.

caio,
--
Joseph S. Gardner
Senior Designer / Technical Support
Kirby Co.,  Cleveland, OH
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Linux is like a wigwam...
No windows, no gates.
Apache inside

Registered linux user #1696600
ICQ #63389227

Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.02 is messed up.

[John Aldrich]

On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, you wrote:
> I'm referring to the problem that Mandrake 7.00 7.01 7.02 installers have 
> initializing 'some' atapi cdroms. I have no clue why this is and Mandrake 
> refuses to fix or even help someone fix this bug when they could obviously 
> take some code from earlier distributions, but then they wish to get ou from 
> underneath the RedHat shadow. I've tried to get this problem fixed, I've 
> talked with some people on this list and at Mandrake and 'noone' seems to 
> have a fix for it. I'm not hte only person that has run across this problem 
> and I posted this message to the list to inform people of what a shoddy 
> product Mandrake released in hopes that the masses could possibly help solve 
> this problem instead of being led around by the corporate chain and 
> believing that Mandrake has produced this 'wonderful' product. THAT is part 
> of the purpose of lists like this. I'm not whining about the problem, I'm 
> simply fed up with 'subpar' service by and industry that is part of the 
> customer service industry. I guess you can't expect people to put forth a 
> good effort on something that is free.
>
Well, the solution I've seen is to temporarily switch CDROM
drives during the installation. I realize it's not
necessarily that easy, but since it seems (from most of the
comments I've read) to be a case of older hardware not
working well, it does tend to make sense to upgrade your
CDROM drive.
Not trying to start any flame wars or anything over this
issue. :-)
John

Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.02 is messed up.

[Trevor Farrell]

Sean Armstrong wrote:

> For the life of me, I can not understand why Mandrake continues to ship a
> defective product. If their older versions had no problem initializing
> cdroms and their new version DOES have problems initializing cdroms, then
> why not correct that part of the code with the older versions part of code?
> I'm no computer genius, but this problem is asinine. With a competitive
> market for Linux distributions that is growing everyday, it seems to me that
> Mandrake can't afford to pissoff their customers. For that matter, with the
> ever expanding market of computer OS's, now up to 4 reliable ones, I would
> think that Mandrake would try to avoid driving their customers away. Once
> again, Mandrake rushed an unfinished product to market. I guess in the world
> of computers you don't have to have a real business plan or even understand
> business to get ahead for a little while. So, until Mandrake decides to
> correct these issues, I for on am going back to the more RELIABLE Redhat
> distribution. At least their head isn't THAT far up their arse. Good Day and
> Good Luck.
> SA
> __
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Sorry, but I just can't help myself...

You think Mandrake is messed up and your going back to RedHat 'cause its more
reliable - What ver of RedHat??? no version of RedHat I've seen can come near
Mandrake, but if you've found one, please tell us all, as I'm sure I'm not the
only one who wants to know.

Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.02 is messed up.

[Civileme]

Sean Armstrong wrote:

> With all due respect, If you had read my earlier emails on this subject you
> would have seen that I have installed every Linux distribution out there and
> was even able to install the Mandrake 7.02 dist. on another computer. The so
> called bug is not 'my' mistake, but the mistake of Mandrake. They have had
> this problem with 7.0 since the Oxygen release, and even though many people
> complained of the problem to Mandrake they refused to fix the BUG!!! This is
> a corporate problem with Mandrake and they need to pull their respective
> heads out of their self righteous arses before they rush a BETA product to
> market under the guise of a final product. I probably would not be so
> irritated if they had a fix for the BUG, but they don't and like others, you
> have failed to give any helpful information on fixing the problem. Good Day
> and Good Luck.
> SA

Heehee,  RH reliable?  I have found Mandrake demanding on HW, but just because
new code exposes problems that always existed in certain hardware is no reason
to act like you had three containers of caffeinated peppermints in two minutes.

For example Some Seagate IDE and Most WD IDE have data problems under any form
of UDMA with 586 and 686 code.  The reflection of signals causing the problem
always existed, but only the timing requirements of the "optimized" code makes
it apparent.  That's a hardware problem.  Returning to 386 code may make it
transparent but it doesn't make it go away.

I have always found RH distros to have their rough edges and a healthy share of
bugs.  The situation here is different.  Mandrake demands pretty good hardware,
just as Enoch or Stampede does.

But you did say yours worked in 6.1.  I was and am very happy with 6.1.
I upgrade to 7.0-2 only on machines where I need some specific feature, and
most of those are covered by the GOLD Pack anyway...  Still using 6.1.

And lessee--I have a DLINK card which has Ethernet and modem on it which works
fine in Win 3.1 and not at all in later versions.  It was built for a Win95
Beta and in the final they changed the addressing method for PCMCIA cards.

The fact is, op systems progress while hardware already bought doesn't change.
It is natural to expect some obsolescent devices to stop working.

Moreover, I did not hear from you that you retested this drive with the
previously working 6.0 or 6.1.  Hardware doesn't last forever, and the
positioning mechanisms of CDs are very precise and subject to wear.

So I think just a little cooling of jets is in order.  I know you may have
differing experience, but mine has been that when I have a problem, more than
90% of the time, the problem has its hands on my keyboard.  Verify that your
drive still works with your old software before going ballisitc on Mandrake for
recompiling with optimized code.  Verify that MD5 Sum worked, and most of all,
burn slowly with a media you know your old drive will read reliably.  You
assume it is Mandrake 7.0 when it may be

1.  Your aging drive  (I have thrown away SIX that would not read parts of CDs
this year, FreeBSD, SuSE, Windows, etc could not be installed using them)
2.  A bad DL or burn
3.  Media that your old CD won't read reliably.
4.  Media that your burner won't do reliably
5.  The wrong burn speed  (some older drives do not reliably read quickly
burned CDs)

Of course, if you want to dismiss all those possibilities and run to another
distro, that is your choice.

Civileme

Re: [expert] shutdown..

[John Aldrich]

On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, you wrote:
> Hi..
> When I do a shutdown -h now the system shutsdown the various file
> systems and then says system is halted..After this mine says..stopping all md
> devices, the screen then is filled with columns of scrolling numbers like
> d3>][]Could anyone tell me how to avoid this..
> It does not seem to affect the shutdown as I do not get a warning message on
> reboot..I tried a sync sync before shutdown but it made no difference..
> 
Your system is trying to auto-power down. You need to tell
it not to attempt to power down. Sorry, I forgot what you
need to edit or what changes need to be made, but basically
it's the APM trying to shut down your machine. It's just
better to manually power it down by pushing the power
button than to let Linux power it down
John

Re: [expert] Connection problem

[Tom Berkley]

You need one of three things listed in increasing order of cost:

1) a crossover network cable
2) a network hub
3) a network switch

A hub or switch allows the use of straight thru cables. 

Tom


"Antoniou, Stylianos" wrote:
> 
> Hi there,
> I have configured two PCs (Mandrake7.0 & RedHat6.1) in my college network.
> When the network cards are connected to the network sockets everything is
> fine, I have access to the www from both and when I ping from one to the
> other I can get a connection.
> # ping 155.198.91.168
> PING 155.198.91.168 (155.198.91.168) from 155.198.91.82 : 56(84) bytes of
> data.
> 64 bytes from 155.198.91.168 icmp_seq=0 tt164 time=4.2ms
> 64 bytes from 155.198.91.168 icmp_seq=0 tt164 time=4.2ms
> ...
> However, when I directly connect the two network cards with one cable, the
> connection is not established, i.e.
> # ping 155.198.91.168
> PING 155.198.91.168 (155.198.91.168) 56 bytes of data.
> 
> and nothing else. What am I missing?
> Thanks, in advance
> Stelios

Re: [expert] WEIRD!

[Tom Berkley]

Have you tried the command startx after you login.

Tom

"Leonardo T. de Carvalho" wrote:
> 
> Hello all.
> 
> I'm dealing with a WEIRD situation for 2 days.
> Trying to install Mandrake Linux (7.02 ISO) on a Pentium 90, 32 Mb RAM
> (like 5 others on the lab) , I got a terminal with NO window managers. Only on this
> machine!
> NONE. No Gnome, KDE or Widowmaker...
> And I'm use the expert mode, and try to install ALL packages.
> 
> What could be happening?
> 
> Thanx!

Re: [expert] Memory upgrade

[Tom Berkley]

Use this append in your /etc/lilo.conf VERBATIM:

append="mem=192M"

always double quotes in lilo.conf

Tom

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> thanks for the overwhelming amounts of replies.
> Now the funny thing is that I have 2 boxes both LM7.02, on one the append
> worked, on the other box, there was already an append in the lilo.conf, I
> tried to add the mem=191M, and it accepted that when I ran /sbin/lilo, but
> when I looked at the amount of Memory, no such luck.
> Then took out the append statement that already existed, included my own
> append statement, no such luck.
> After that copied the lilo.conf from the other box to the one with the
> problems. Again, no such luck.
> 
> Any ideas???
> 
> Regards
> 
> Fred de Klein
> 
> tel: 01908 656106 (w)
>   0780 8254445(mob)
> http://www.bigfoot.com/~klein_it 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Tom Berkley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 20 March 2000 14:32
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [expert] Memory upgrade
> 
> in /etc/lilo.conf add the following line
> 
> append="mem=192M"
> 
> Tom
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Hello All,
> > this question has probably already been raised, but I have added 128M to
> my
> > original 64M, and would expect it to be picked up by Mandrake
> automatically,
> > however no such luck.
> > Can anyone help me on how to do this.
> >
> > Your help much appreciated.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Fred de Klein
> >
> > tel: 01908 656106 (w)
> >   0780 8254445(mob)
> > http://www.bigfoot.com/~klein_it 

Re: [expert] KDE icons disappeared

[Trevor Farrell]

Alan Shoemaker wrote:

> Trevorsorry I tipped you to a technique that has caused you
> trouble!  I use this method to temporarily become root in a
> second xsession all the time.  I've never had any problems with
> it.  So I'm sorry also, that I've no helpful suggestions for
> you.
>
> Alan
>
> Trevor Farrell wrote:
> >
> > OK, I don't know what is going on, but this is my 6th attempt at getting
> >
> > this through to the list!  I've tried different mailservers, using "new
> > msg"
> > & "reply", and several changes of text/subject. Other emails are going
> > out OK, just not this
> > one! My apologies if the floodgates suddenly burst and all 6 hit the
> > list.
> >
> > Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> >
> > > Seanthat has been doable for a long time.  Use this syntax:
> > > 'startx -- :x'.  Your original session defaults to x=0, the next
> > > should be x=1 etc.  Ctl-alt f7-f12 accesses the x-sessions
> > > whereas ctl-alt f1-f6 accesses the consoles you started the
> > > x-sessions in.
> > >
> >
> > Well, I thought this was too good to be true, so I tried it...
> >
> > Logged onto tty2 as root, did startx -- :1 and was real impressed to see
> >
> > KDE start up as root. Yes, Ctrl-Alt-F7 took me back to KDE logged in as
> > me. WOW it worked (so far...).
> >
> > Then, Ctrl-Alt-F8 took me to a black screen - keyboard num-lock light
> > went out, tried every key combo I could think of to get some response,
> > even a num-lock or caps-lock light would have been good, but the only
> > thing that worked was Ctrl-Alt-Del to reboot - with the screen dead, the
> >
> > system appeared to shut down properly-  plenty of drive action - but no
> > reboot - so I had to use the power switch (shades of M$ Windows...).
> >
> > When I restarted the box, it reported that the disc was not unmounted
> > cleanly & did its checking - finally giving a status of "passed".
> > Everything works normally now, except that when I'm logged into KDE as
> > me, no icons & I can't execute programs - the panel & K menus are there,
> >
> > but only a few items (like logout) work. I can't open a terminal,
> > refresh icons/desktop or anything. logging out & logging back in using
> > gnome instead of KDE works (thats how I'm sending this) but I prefer
> > KDE. Kde still works if I log in as root, just not as me!
> >
> > Well, I hate to admit it, but I don't even know where to start looking,
> > so can someone please tell me what to do to get things back!
> >
> > Trevor

Not your fault, Alan, if something is broken in my system!!! It should work,
but ...

I still wonder about the support for the SiS 6326 video chip - it works OK,
but...

Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.02 is messed up.

[Bug Hunter]

On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, Trevor Farrell wrote:

> Sean Armstrong wrote:
 
> 
> You think Mandrake is messed up and your going back to RedHat 'cause its more
> reliable - What ver of RedHat??? no version of RedHat I've seen can come near
> Mandrake, but if you've found one, please tell us all, as I'm sure I'm not the
> only one who wants to know.
> 

  Well, I've found that redhat 6.2, if you apply the errata and updates,
is really solid.  They still have messed up the install in regards to
network cards, but once installed, some of the gotchas that exist on
mandrake 7.02 are simply not there.

  Mandrake works very well on many platforms.  However, mandrake is still
pushing the envelope a little, and it will take a while for it to settle
down, if it ever does.  Historically, stability and cutting edge just
don't mix in the software world.  

  If the mandrake folks ever decide to fork into two versions, things
could be very good.  In my opinion, one fork could be the ultra stable,
non cutting edge version where only the most conservative rules apply.
The other could be the current mandrake style of distribution, with
everything hanging out there a little.

  The ultra stable would win enterprise installations.  The cutting edge
stuff would go into the ultra stable once proven on tens of thousands of
platforms.

  The auto industry does this today.  Luxury cars sport features that have
a short working life.  Once the bugs are worked out the features, and they
now demonstrate a longer working life, these features are pushed into
cheaper automobiles.  Electronic ignition, fuel injection, Electric door
lock, electric windows, electric seats come into mind.

  This is not to say mandrake is bad.  This is not to say redhat is good.
They are just different. 

  Also note this is Linux.  If you don't like a distribution, fix the
problems yourself and put out your own distribution.  Or switch to another
distribution.  Or hire someone to fix the distribution.  The source code
is there.  On a side note, try to get Micro$oft to fix their bugs.  They
are on revision 6a of NT4, and it still isn't right.  Or better yet, hire
someone who can fix their distribution.  You can't.  No source code is
available.

bug

Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.02 is messed up.

[Alan Shoemaker]

This problem has occurred twice for me.  

The first time it was RedHat 6.0 that wouldn't install on one of
three machines.  I burned a copy of the cd, gave away the
original cd to a friend and installed RedHat 6.0 on the problem
machine using the copy I'd burned.  

The second time was with Mandrake 7.0.  On this occasion I gave
away the old cdrom to a friend and bought a new cdrom for the
problem machine.  Mandrake then installed just fine and I was
glad to be rid of that marginal cdrom.  

Never once did I accuse either RedHat or Mandrake of
distributing a "shoddy" product.

Alan
  

John Aldrich wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, you wrote:
> > I'm referring to the problem that Mandrake 7.00 7.01 7.02 installers have
> > initializing 'some' atapi cdroms. I have no clue why this is and Mandrake
> > refuses to fix or even help someone fix this bug when they could obviously
> > take some code from earlier distributions, but then they wish to get ou from
> > underneath the RedHat shadow. I've tried to get this problem fixed, I've
> > talked with some people on this list and at Mandrake and 'noone' seems to
> > have a fix for it. I'm not hte only person that has run across this problem
> > and I posted this message to the list to inform people of what a shoddy
> > product Mandrake released in hopes that the masses could possibly help solve
> > this problem instead of being led around by the corporate chain and
> > believing that Mandrake has produced this 'wonderful' product. THAT is part
> > of the purpose of lists like this. I'm not whining about the problem, I'm
> > simply fed up with 'subpar' service by and industry that is part of the
> > customer service industry. I guess you can't expect people to put forth a
> > good effort on something that is free.
> >
> Well, the solution I've seen is to temporarily switch CDROM
> drives during the installation. I realize it's not
> necessarily that easy, but since it seems (from most of the
> comments I've read) to be a case of older hardware not
> working well, it does tend to make sense to upgrade your
> CDROM drive.
> Not trying to start any flame wars or anything over this
> issue. :-)
> John

[expert] List email not getting through!

[Trevor Farrell]

Wolfgang Bornath wrote:

>
> Hope this mail gets through to the list. The last four(!) did
> not.
>
> wobo
> --

Trevor Farrell wrote:
>
> OK, I don't know what is going on, but this is my 6th attempt at getting
>
> this through to the list!  I've tried different mailservers, using "new
> msg"
> & "reply", and several changes of text/subject. Other emails are going
> out OK, just not this
> one! My apologies if the floodgates suddenly burst and all 6 hit the
> list.

Well, I'm obviously not the only one with this problem!!!  I thought I had
solved it by changing the subject line - I had originally put

Help please - 

and I think that if "help" is the first word on the subject line, then it
goes off to somewhere else.

Wobo: does that explain you disappearances, or do we still have an electronic
Bermuda Triangle...

[expert] dev busy problems

[Dennis Davis]

Hello
I have been using Slackware for some time now, got a Mandrake 6.1 dist with
a programming book (GNU C++ for Linux, by Tom Swan). It looked pretty good
so I tried it,
all was well until I tried to use sound and modem. They are both pnp. I've
set them up before
without problem, but now if I try to use them I get a busy notice. I've
checked /proc and made
sure that the io and irq's are not used, and I've tried using minicom with
the modem to make sure
it wasn't an X problem. But minicom just tells me that I'm online already
(I'm not) and
kppp says that the modem is busy?  All I can think of is that it must be in
the startup
scripts somewhere and since I came from slackware, Mandrake's startup stuff
is different and I
haven't figured it out yet. I did managed to screw-up my ptys though, system
says it cannot open master side of pty. I really would like to keep this
dist on as it has many more featuers
than the slackware 4.0 that I have. Can anyone help with this?
Thanks Dennis

P.S I used to use configuration manager for pnp. Its a kernel patch that
puts a dir in proc /proc/cm. I could then enable my pnp modem for instance
by putting a simple
line in my rc.local script ie. echo d serial,gvc1601 a 2 >/proc/cm/conf .
This patch
was by David Howells I belive. I haven't been able to find it again and all
I have left in a
diskette with a 2.0 something kernel on it. It boots nicely but still
getthat device busy with mandrake installed!
 Does anyone know where I can find the current patch? It used to be
??.helmet.???.???, Please don't respond with the pnp stuff included with the
kernel source(it sucks).

Re: [expert] KDE icons disappeared

[Trevor Farrell]

Civileme wrote:

> Trevor Farrell wrote:
>
> > OK, I don't know what is going on, but this is my 6th attempt at getting
> >
> > this through to the list!  I've tried different mailservers, using "new
> > msg"
> > & "reply", and several changes of text/subject. Other emails are going
> > out OK, just not this
> > one! My apologies if the floodgates suddenly burst and all 6 hit the
> > list.
> >
> > Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> >
> > > Seanthat has been doable for a long time.  Use this syntax:
> > > 'startx -- :x'.  Your original session defaults to x=0, the next
> > > should be x=1 etc.  Ctl-alt f7-f12 accesses the x-sessions
> > > whereas ctl-alt f1-f6 accesses the consoles you started the
> > > x-sessions in.
> > >
> >
> > Well, I thought this was too good to be true, so I tried it...
> >
> > Logged onto tty2 as root, did startx -- :1 and was real impressed to see
> >
> > KDE start up as root. Yes, Ctrl-Alt-F7 took me back to KDE logged in as
> > me. WOW it worked (so far...).
> >
> > Then, Ctrl-Alt-F8 took me to a black screen - keyboard num-lock light
> > went out, tried every key combo I could think of to get some response,
> > even a num-lock or caps-lock light would have been good, but the only
> > thing that worked was Ctrl-Alt-Del to reboot - with the screen dead, the
> >
> > system appeared to shut down properly-  plenty of drive action - but no
> > reboot - so I had to use the power switch (shades of M$ Windows...).
> >
> > When I restarted the box, it reported that the disc was not unmounted
> > cleanly & did its checking - finally giving a status of "passed".
> > Everything works normally now, except that when I'm logged into KDE as
> > me, no icons & I can't execute programs - the panel & K menus are there,
> >
> > but only a few items (like logout) work. I can't open a terminal,
> > refresh icons/desktop or anything. logging out & logging back in using
> > gnome instead of KDE works (thats how I'm sending this) but I prefer
> > KDE. Kde still works if I log in as root, just not as me!
> >
> > Well, I hate to admit it, but I don't even know where to start looking,
> > so can someone please tell me what to do to get things back!
> >
> > Trevor
>
> The KDE icons and settings load fresh if they aren't already there.  You
> can do this with safety though you will lose your (now
> unreachable) customized KDE settings for your user and have to re-establish
> them.
>
> $ cd ~
> $ rm -f -R ~/.kde
> $ startx
>
> Of course as root you could use kfm, set it to view hidden files, navigate
> to the user directory and right click the .kde folder selecting delete,
> then log in as that user and KDE will rebuild itself.
>
> :-)
>
> Civileme

Thanx Civileme!   So simple when you know how - isn't that what this list is
all about?

[expert] Star Mail problems

[John Aldrich]

Hello, All...
I posted a problem here a couple days ago that I was having
with StarMail blowing up every time I try to open my inbox
in StarMail.
Well, I found a place to submit a question to TechSupport
at Sun. I have to commend Sun on their prompt tech support
responses! They're a LOT faster than M$ who'll make you
wait several days.
In any event, they gave me a suggestion -- in "setup" there
should be a "repair" option. I'm gonna try that and see if
it works. If it does, great. If not, I guess I"m gonna have
to delete and reinstall Star Office.
John

Re: [expert] KDE icons disappeared

[Eugene C. Zesch]

> > Everything works normally now, except that when I'm logged into KDE as
> > me, no icons & I can't execute programs - the panel & K menus are there,
> >
> > but only a few items (like logout) work. I can't open a terminal,
> > refresh icons/desktop or anything. logging out & logging back in using
> > gnome instead of KDE works (thats how I'm sending this) but I prefer
> > KDE. Kde still works if I log in as root, just not as me!
> >
> > Well, I hate to admit it, but I don't even know where to start looking,
> > so can someone please tell me what to do to get things back!
> >
> > Trevor

Trevor,
I believe this can be cured by by going to your home directory
/home/whatever/.kde/   and  renaming the folder /share.
I usually rename it /share~
When you restart KDE it will rebuild the folder and should work fine. If you
dont see anything missing you can then delete the /share~
You can do this from the Gnome file manager or the command line
mv /home/whatever/.kde/share   /home/whatever/.kde/share~

I usually just delete /share  but  if you have any kfm bookmarks you may want
to save them, and if you rename it you can always rename it back.

Hope this gets fixed in KDE2.0!

Gene

RE:[expert] Mandrkae 7.02 is messed up

[Civileme]

Apologies if this posts twice.  It was sentr from one mail server with
another email identity  and I have just corrected that.

Sean Armstrong wrote:

> With all due respect, If you had read my earlier emails on this
subject you
> would have seen that I have installed every Linux distribution out
there and
> was even able to install the Mandrake 7.02 dist. on another computer.
The so
> called bug is not 'my' mistake, but the mistake of Mandrake. They have
had
> this problem with 7.0 since the Oxygen release, and even though many
people
> complained of the problem to Mandrake they refused to fix the BUG!!!
This is
> a corporate problem with Mandrake and they need to pull their
respective
> heads out of their self righteous arses before they rush a BETA
product to
> market under the guise of a final product. I probably would not be so
> irritated if they had a fix for the BUG, but they don't and like
others, you
> have failed to give any helpful information on fixing the problem.
Good Day
> and Good Luck.
> SA

Heehee,  RH reliable?  I have found Mandrake demanding on HW, but just
because
new code exposes problems that always existed in certain hardware is no
reason
to act like you had three containers of caffeinated peppermints in two
minutes.

For example Some Seagate IDE and Most WD IDE have data problems under
any form
of UDMA with 586 and 686 code.  The reflection of signals causing the
problem
always existed, but only the timing requirements of the "optimized" code
makes
it apparent.  That's a hardware problem.  Returning to 386 code may make
it
transparent but it doesn't make it go away.

I have always found RH distros to have their rough edges and a healthy
share of
bugs.  The situation here is different.  Mandrake demands pretty good
hardware,
just as Enoch or Stampede does.

But you did say yours worked in 6.1.  I was and am very happy with 6.1.
I upgrade to 7.0-2 only on machines where I need some specific feature,
and
most of those are covered by the GOLD Pack anyway...  Still using 6.1.

And lessee--I have a DLINK card which has Ethernet and modem on it which
works
fine in Win 3.1 and not at all in later versions.  It was built for a
Win95
Beta and in the final they changed the addressing method for PCMCIA
cards.

The fact is, op systems progress while hardware already bought doesn't
change.
It is natural to expect some obsolescent devices to stop working.

Moreover, I did not hear from you that you retested this drive with the
previously working 6.0 or 6.1.  Hardware doesn't last forever, and the
positioning mechanisms of CDs are very precise and subject to wear.

So I think just a little cooling of jets is in order.  I know you may
have
differing experience, but mine has been that when I have a problem, more
than
90% of the time, the problem has its hands on my keyboard.  Verify
that your
drive still works with your old software before going ballisitc on
Mandrake for
recompiling with optimized code.  Verify that MD5 Sum worked, and most
of all,
burn slowly with a media you know your old drive will read reliably.
You
assume it is Mandrake 7.0 when it may be

1.  Your aging drive  (I have thrown away SIX that would not read parts
of CDs
this year, FreeBSD, SuSE, Windows, etc could not be installed using
them)
2.  A bad DL or burn
3.  Media that your old CD won't read reliably.
4.  Media that your burner won't do reliably
5.  The wrong burn speed  (some older drives do not reliably read
quickly
burned CDs)

Of course, if you want to dismiss all those possibilities and run to
another
distro, that is your choice.

Civileme

[expert] Re: compss* help.

[Marcos Dione]

On 20 Mar 2000, Pixel wrote:

> Here is what you can now find in pkgs.pm:
> 
> #- lower bound on the left ( aka 90 means [90-100[ )
> %compssListDesc = (
>  100 => __("mandatory"), #- do not use it, it's for base packages

100 or 0? I'm looking at the orig compssList and, e.g., basesystem
has 0 0 0, provided that it is in the base group...

> #- if the package requires locales-LANG and LANG is chosen, rating += 90
>  -10 => __("i18n (important)"), #- every install in the corresponding lang have 
>these packages
>  -20 => __("i18n (very nice)"), #- every beginner/custom install in the 
>corresponding lang have theses packages
>  -30 => __("i18n (nice)"),
> );

ok, so why some XFree pkgs has -30 -30 -30? I think they're not
lang dependant... and about lang dependency. In the installer you ask in
which lang ones likes to see the installer, but I think that the result is
in which lang the SYSTEM would be installed. I'm from Argentina, but I
know a lot of English, and I really prefer English rather than Spanish
when using software, because traslations are sometimes really UGLY. This
is a suggestion, you can take it or not... can you make both questions,
i.e., which lang I like to see the installer and which lang to use in the
system? dunno if this seems reasonable to you, but it does for me...

> #- HACK: rating += 10 if the group is selected and it is not a kde package (aka name 
>!~ /^k/)

??? does it means that if the pkgs has 40 and is not a kde pkgs
then it really has 50?

-- 
"No tiren sus colillas en el urinario, las humedece
y las hace dificil de encender"

mmm... I should translate this... :)

 --Tom Sharpe, "Wilt on high"

RE: [expert] Connection problem

[Antoniou, Stylianos]

Thank you very much. That was the problem.
Stelios


-Original Message-
From:   chunnuan chen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   21 March 2000 17:24
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: [expert] Connection problem

You need a cross-over cable.
Chunnuan

"Antoniou, Stylianos" wrote:

> Hi there,
> I have configured two PCs (Mandrake7.0 & RedHat6.1) in my
college network.
> When the network cards are connected to the network
sockets everything is
> fine, I have access to the www from both and when I ping
from one to the
> other I can get a connection.
> # ping 155.198.91.168
> PING 155.198.91.168 (155.198.91.168) from 155.198.91.82 :
56(84) bytes of
> data.
> 64 bytes from 155.198.91.168 icmp_seq=0 tt164 time=4.2ms
> 64 bytes from 155.198.91.168 icmp_seq=0 tt164 time=4.2ms
> ...
> However, when I directly connect the two network cards
with one cable, the
> connection is not established, i.e.
> # ping 155.198.91.168
> PING 155.198.91.168 (155.198.91.168) 56 bytes of data.
>
> and nothing else. What am I missing?
> Thanks, in advance
> Stelios

RE: [expert] Connection problem

[Antoniou, Stylianos]

Thank you very much. That was the problem.
Stelios

-Original Message-
From:   kaygee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   21 March 2000 17:19
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: [expert] Connection problem

He's right,
You need a crossover cable for a direct connection, although
I'm not sure
I agree with his suggestion that you buy a hub if you only
have two
computers.  I'd just go with the crossover cable being a
college student
myself:)

Keith
--
There's ease of use and then there's ease of usefulness.
Choose usefulness. Choose Linux.

On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Charles Curley wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 01:32:54PM -, Antoniou,
Stylianos wrote:
> -> Hi there,
> -> I have configured two PCs (Mandrake7.0 & RedHat6.1) in
my college network.
> -> When the network cards are connected to the network
sockets everything is
> -> fine, I have access to the www from both and when I
ping from one to the
> -> other I can get a connection.
> -> # ping 155.198.91.168
> -> PING 155.198.91.168 (155.198.91.168) from 155.198.91.82
: 56(84) bytes of
> -> data.
> -> 64 bytes from 155.198.91.168 icmp_seq=0 tt164
time=4.2ms
> -> 64 bytes from 155.198.91.168 icmp_seq=0 tt164
time=4.2ms
> -> ...
> -> However, when I directly connect the two network cards
with one cable, the
> -> connection is not established, i.e.
> -> # ping 155.198.91.168
> -> PING 155.198.91.168 (155.198.91.168) 56 bytes of data.
> -> 
> -> and nothing else. What am I missing?
> 
> Possibly what you are missing is that you need a different
kind of cable
> to go directly from computer to computer.
> 
> To go from a computer to a hub (the normal sort of
connection) you need a
> cable that is straight through: pin 1 to pin 1, etc.
> 
> To go from computer to computer, or hub to hub, you need a
cable which has
> wires crossed over in it, i.e. any given pin is not
necessarily wired to
> its opposite number. This type of cable is known by
various names,
> including "hub to hub" and "crossover".
> 
> I would suggest you buy an eight port 10/100BT hub; they
are only about
> $100 these days. If you want to plug back into the college
net, get an IP
> address for each machine and plug the cable to the network
switch into the
> uplink port of your hub. Or look at IP masquerading.
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
>   -- C^2
> 
> No windows were crashed in the making of this email.
> 
> Looking for fine software and/or web pages?
> http://w3.trib.com/~ccurley
> 

RE: [expert] Connection problem

[Antoniou, Stylianos]

Thank you very much. That was the problem.
Stelios

-Original Message-
From:   Charles Curley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   21 March 2000 16:41
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: [expert] Connection problem

On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 01:32:54PM -, Antoniou,
Stylianos wrote:
-> Hi there,
-> I have configured two PCs (Mandrake7.0 & RedHat6.1) in my
college network.
-> When the network cards are connected to the network
sockets everything is
-> fine, I have access to the www from both and when I ping
from one to the
-> other I can get a connection.
-> # ping 155.198.91.168
-> PING 155.198.91.168 (155.198.91.168) from 155.198.91.82 :
56(84) bytes of
-> data.
-> 64 bytes from 155.198.91.168 icmp_seq=0 tt164 time=4.2ms
-> 64 bytes from 155.198.91.168 icmp_seq=0 tt164 time=4.2ms
-> ...
-> However, when I directly connect the two network cards
with one cable, the
-> connection is not established, i.e.
-> # ping 155.198.91.168
-> PING 155.198.91.168 (155.198.91.168) 56 bytes of data.
-> 
-> and nothing else. What am I missing?

Possibly what you are missing is that you need a different
kind of cable
to go directly from computer to computer.

To go from a computer to a hub (the normal sort of
connection) you need a
cable that is straight through: pin 1 to pin 1, etc.

To go from computer to computer, or hub to hub, you need a
cable which has
wires crossed over in it, i.e. any given pin is not
necessarily wired to
its opposite number. This type of cable is known by various
names,
including "hub to hub" and "crossover".

I would suggest you buy an eight port 10/100BT hub; they are
only about
$100 these days. If you want to plug back into the college
net, get an IP
address for each machine and plug the cable to the network
switch into the
uplink port of your hub. Or look at IP masquerading.


-- 

-- C^2

No windows were crashed in the making of this email.

Looking for fine software and/or web pages?
http://w3.trib.com/~ccurley

Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.02 is messed up.

[Marcos Dione]

On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Sean Armstrong wrote:

I know you'd been telling mdk guys which cd-readers you're talking
about... can you share that info with me (us?). I'm 15 days from deadline
to an Installfest, and I want to get as much info as I can to know what
kind of problems I can face in it.

thanks in advance.

-- 
"No tiren sus colillas en el urinario, las humedece
y las hace dificil de encender"
 --Tom Sharpe, "Wilt on high"

Re: [expert] Connection problem

[Jeff Groves]

You probably need a cross-over cable.

When connecting to a hub, you normally use a "straight-thru" cable.  If you 
want to connect two computers directly to each other, you need to use a 
"cross-over" cable.  This cable reverses the leads and so that the "send" 
signal on system A goes to the "receive" on system B (and vice versa).  If 
you are connecting via network hub, it automatically does this for you.

If you only have two systems that you want to connect, you could make (or 
buy) a cross-over cable.  For making a cable, I don't remember the exact 
pins to connect, but a quick web search for "RJ45 network crossover cable" 
should turn up some useful info.  If you need to connect more than two 
systems, it would be best to use a hub (and then you can use regular 
straight-thru cables).

Jeff

At 01:32 PM 3/21/00 +, you wrote:
>Hi there,
>I have configured two PCs (Mandrake7.0 & RedHat6.1) in my college network.
>When the network cards are connected to the network sockets everything is
>fine, I have access to the www from both and when I ping from one to the
>other I can get a connection.
># ping 155.198.91.168
>PING 155.198.91.168 (155.198.91.168) from 155.198.91.82 : 56(84) bytes of
>data.
>64 bytes from 155.198.91.168 icmp_seq=0 tt164 time=4.2ms
>64 bytes from 155.198.91.168 icmp_seq=0 tt164 time=4.2ms
>...
>However, when I directly connect the two network cards with one cable, the
>connection is not established, i.e.
># ping 155.198.91.168
>PING 155.198.91.168 (155.198.91.168) 56 bytes of data.
>
>and nothing else. What am I missing?
>Thanks, in advance
>Stelios
>

[expert] Time differences

[Wolfgang Bornath]

Hi,

Every now and then I have a close look at the headers of my sent
mail.

This time I observed a funny time difference. This is a header
of a mail sent to this list (shortened for better reading and
all times converted to GMT):

Delivery-date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 19:32:39

Received: by mx01.kundenserver.de 
  Tue, 21 Mar 2000 19:32:07
> 51 minutes difference
Received: by mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com 
  Tue, 21 Mar 2000 18:41:32

Received: by mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com 
  Tue, 21 Mar 2000 18:41:12
> 25 minutes difference *minus* 
Received: by moutvdom00.kundenserver.de 
  Tue, 21 Mar 2000 19:06:01

Received: by mrvdom00.schlund.de 
  Tue, 21 Mar 2000 19:05:56  

Received: by molch.wolf-b.de (Postfix, from userid 501)
  Tue, 21 Mar 2000 19:04:22

Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 19:04:22 +0100   

The difference on the last hop may be caused by delay at
mandrakesoft or mx01.
But the difference between the 3. and 4. hop can only be
explained by different times on the servers.

You may check it in this mail's header as well.

So I checked more mails and found out that this 25minutes
difference is always between a sending server and mandrakesoft.
To verify that the sending server has the correct time I looked
at mails to other addresses and found the timeline matching my
ISP's server. That implies that mandrakesoft has a faulty time
set on their server.

Or do I get something wrong? Or is this fact known for ages to
all the world but me?

wobo 
-- 
GPG-Fingerprint: FE5A 0891 7027 8D1B 4E3F  73C1 AD9B D732 A698 82EE
For Public Key mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: GPG-Request
---
ISDN4LINUX-FAQ -- Deutsch: http://www.wolf-b.de/i4l/i4lfaq-de.html

[expert] quota in RAID partitions

[Antoniou, Stylianos]

Hi there,
Does anybody know how it is possible to create quota in a couple of RAID-1
disks. As far as I know, the RAID partitions cannot be mounted in fstab
(read about it and tried it myself) and in order to setup quota you need to
change fstab. Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Stelios

[expert] Mail problems

[Audrey Beck]

I've been getting e-mail rejected from both expert and newbie lists. 
However, about 90% of the mail that I get a reject for is also posted in
the lists, so it does go through.  Can anyone figure out what the
problem is so I can correct it?  I'm sending from a Win95 box in
batches, since I do my mail offline.  Any idea on the earthlink.net
thing?  

Here is an example reject:

Subject: 
Date: 
  Sun, 19 Mar 2000 12:25:25 -0500
   From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: 
  Aud Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

General SMTP/ESMTP error.

Reporting-MTA: dns; localhost

Final-Recipient: rfc822; root
Last-Attempt-Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 12:25:25 -0500 (EST)
Action: failed
Status: 4.0.0
Diagnostic-Code: 451 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Sender domain must resolve

Received: from mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com
(mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com
[216.71.84.35])
by kestrel.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id
HAA23500
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 07:56:56 -0800
(PST)
Received: (from sympa@localhost)
by mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA25643
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 09:33:09 -0600
Received: from mhub2.tc.umn.edu (mhub2.tc.umn.edu [128.101.131.42]) by
mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24126
for
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 09:29:26 -0600
Received: from [207.58.24.91] by mhub2.tc.umn.edu with ESMTP for
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 09:53:13 -0600
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 09:31:27 -0600
From: Audrey Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Need Russian TV URL, please!
References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Sequence: 1051
Precedence: list
X-UIDL: c6255137799496498b527d012fa5006d

==
Here are the e-mail headers for the mail that I sent and got posted on
the list:

X-Mozilla-Status: 
0001
   X-Mozilla-Status2: 

Message-ID: 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   Date: 
Sun, 19 Mar 2000 09:31:27 -0600
  From: 
Audrey Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Mailer: 
Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; U)
X-Accept-Language: 
en
  MIME-Version: 
1.0
 To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 
Re: [newbie] Need Russian TV URL, please!
References: 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Content-Type: 
text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 
7bit

Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.02 is messed up.

[Civileme]

Wolfgang Bornath wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 09:12 -0800, Tom Berkley wrote:
> > Sean
> >
> > I cannot relate at all to what you are talking about. After 1 year
> > playing with linux and using five different distros, I use Mandrake 7.0
> > (GL edition) on both my laptop and my dual celeron smp box with only one
> > problem that I had to work around. Mandrake 7.0 is a stud muffin linux
> > and if you cannot get it to work, then you probably did not pay any
> > attention to the hardware compatibility issues. Learn more and quit
> > venting your frustrations here. There is a LOT of documentation and you
> > have a lot of reading ahead of you.
>
> Well, Sean might have a point in what he writes (although I'm
> not very pleased of his style). He might, but I found something
> out concerning this "cannot initiate cdrom" problem.
>
> I picked up a PowerPack on Feb 1st at the MandrakeSoft office.
> It's a "real" 7.0 with the bug in DrakX which was fixed in 7.02.
>
> It installed without probs from a generic atapi cdrom drive and
> from a Plextor SCSI cdrom drive as well as from my SCSI Plextor
> CD-writer.
>
> Then I made several copies of the installation cd to try several
> brands of cd-r. Made all copies with the same versions of
> mkisofs and cdrecord.
>
> Outcome was (and here I'm getting back OnTopic) that some copies
> installed w/o probs and some copies gave me that "failed to
> initiate cdrom" error message.
>
> So, could it be that this problem is not only caused by a
> hardware incompatibility but also by using "incompatible" cd-r
> media? If so, then Sean's complaints may really matching his
> style. If not so, then just put this mail into /dev/nul and
> forget it.
>
> Hope this mail gets through to the list. The last four(!) did
> not.
>
> wobo
> --
> GPG-Fingerprint: FE5A 0891 7027 8D1B 4E3F  73C1 AD9B D732 A698 82EE
> For Public Key mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: GPG-Request
> ---
> ISDN4LINUX-FAQ -- Deutsch: http://www.wolf-b.de/i4l/i4lfaq-de.html

I have noticed that most older drives have problems with the silver/dark blue
media particularly, perhaps because there aren't enough lumens out of their
lasers for the absorption of the media.

Civileme

Re: [expert] dev busy problems

[Tom Berkley]

DD


As root try this command: 

/bin/setserial /dev/ttyS1 auto_irq skip_test autoconfig 

If it works then put in your /etc/rc.d/rc.serial. Also change ttyS1 to
the serial port that your modem is on (0 is #1, 1 is #2, etc). Make the
file executable if you created an rc.serial, do not worry about anything
else. The startup script will run this during boot if it exists.

If it does not work then change the irq to something that is not
assigned and then back the irq for the serial port (irq 4 or irq 3). For
my laptop I use irq 6. You cannot put this in a startup script. I do not
know why and have not hacked thru it to find out. I just know that it
works for my laptop pcmcia modem.


Tom

Dennis Davis wrote:
> 
> Hello
> I have been using Slackware for some time now, got a Mandrake 6.1 dist with
> a programming book (GNU C++ for Linux, by Tom Swan). It looked pretty good
> so I tried it,
> all was well until I tried to use sound and modem. They are both pnp. I've
> set them up before
> without problem, but now if I try to use them I get a busy notice. I've
> checked /proc and made
> sure that the io and irq's are not used, and I've tried using minicom with
> the modem to make sure
> it wasn't an X problem. But minicom just tells me that I'm online already
> (I'm not) and
> kppp says that the modem is busy?  All I can think of is that it must be in
> the startup
> scripts somewhere and since I came from slackware, Mandrake's startup stuff
> is different and I
> haven't figured it out yet. I did managed to screw-up my ptys though, system
> says it cannot open master side of pty. I really would like to keep this
> dist on as it has many more featuers
> than the slackware 4.0 that I have. Can anyone help with this?
> Thanks Dennis
> 
> P.S I used to use configuration manager for pnp. Its a kernel patch that
> puts a dir in proc /proc/cm. I could then enable my pnp modem for instance
> by putting a simple
> line in my rc.local script ie. echo d serial,gvc1601 a 2 >/proc/cm/conf .
> This patch
> was by David Howells I belive. I haven't been able to find it again and all
> I have left in a
> diskette with a 2.0 something kernel on it. It boots nicely but still
> getthat device busy with mandrake installed!
>  Does anyone know where I can find the current patch? It used to be
> ??.helmet.???.???, Please don't respond with the pnp stuff included with the
> kernel source(it sucks).

Re: [expert] shutdown..

[Marcos Dione]

On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, John Aldrich wrote:

> Your system is trying to auto-power down. You need to tell
> it not to attempt to power down. Sorry, I forgot what you
> need to edit or what changes need to be made, but basically
> it's the APM trying to shut down your machine. It's just
> better to manually power it down by pushing the power
> button than to let Linux power it down
>   John

the kernel, it's the kernel trying to p/d the machine. er... you
need to reconfigure the kernel and say "no" to "general setup->advanced
power management BIOS support->power off on shutdown", recompila and
install the new generated kernel, and if he is right, this should get rid
of it.

GOOD luck.

-- 
"No tiren sus colillas en el urinario, las humedece
y las hace dificil de encender"
 --Tom Sharpe, "Wilt on high"

Re: [expert] shutdown..

[Lane Lester]

It interests me that, when people ask about shutting down, advice is
often given about shutdown with added parameters. Is there any down side
to using "reboot"?

I'm in X most of the time, and I think it takes 5 clicks to reboot the
computer. I put "reboot" in my icewm menu, and that at least got me down
to 2 clicks.
-- 
Lane

Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA
Using Linux to get where I want to go...