RE: [expert] Show status of adsl connect
> Got adsl yesterday and managed the setup. though not using draknet. I
> tried draknet first but it did not work. Then I ran adsl-setup and added
> a defaultroute in adsl-start. Now it works like a charm.
> Problem is, 1&1 (my provider) cuts the link after 15 minutes
> of inactivity and after 14 hours of continous running.
>
> 1. I put up a cronjob which sends 1 ping tom my own domain every 14
> minutes.
>
in addition to this job you could also run this script as cronjob which will
check if the connection (ppp0 interface) is still up. if not it will reconnect
and it will also write to a logfile that the connection was down
I've written this script for a SuSE installation, so maybe you have to change
some directories...
#!/bin/bash
#
# This script checks if the specified (network-) interface is up by
# examining ifconfigs output. If the connection is down a new
# connection will be established
#
# check this interface
IFACE=ppp0
# the pid-file of the iface
PIDFILE=/var/run/$IFACE.pid
LOGFILE=/var/log/adsl-status.log
# We must be in RL 3 or 5, otherwise the script does nothing
if [ $(runlevel | awk '{ print $2 }') -gt 2 ]
then
if ! /sbin/ifconfig | /usr/bin/grep --silent $IFACE
then
datestr=$(date +"%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S")
echo $datestr Interface $IFACE is not up. Reconnecting. >> $LOGFILE
/sbin/init.d/adsl stop >> $LOGFILE
while [ -e $PIDFILE ]
do
sleep 1
done
sleep 2
/sbin/init.d/adsl start >> $LOGFILE
echo "---" >> $LOGFILE
fi
fi
# END OF FILE
/sbin/init.d/adsl is the script that does the work for connecting/unconnecting.
On a normal linux installation (everything but SuSE) the directory is
/etc/init.d
since my ISP uses PPTP and not PPoE for the adsl connection I got some problems
when the connection died. (pppd stays alife,). Therefor I shut down the
connection with adsl stop (which will kill the pppd), wait until pppd has
terminated and then i reconnect.
Probalby you can just bring up your connection without the need to stop and
then start the connection.
So that you can do this:
...
if ! /sbin/ifconfig | /usr/bin/grep --silent $IFACE
then
datestr=$(date +"%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S")
echo $datestr Interface $IFACE is not up. Reconnecting. >> $LOGFILE
COMMAND TO BRING CONNECTION UP
echo "---" >> $LOGFILE
fi
--
E-Mail: Gregor Maier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 09-Jul-2001
Time: 13:00:48
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[expert] Dell PowerAPP 120 & Mandrake 8
Hi Guys, I have a problem installing Mandrake 8 on a DELL PowerAPP 120. The problem is that when Mandrake is detecting the Harddisks, it keeps trying and trying but does not find anything. The server has a raidadaptor (Megaraid) and Mandrake detects it. (At least that's what it says). Does anyone have any experience with this combination? Thanks for the help, Jeroen Geusebroek infraXS P.s. please CC me, since i am not on the list.
Re: [expert] Intel 82810e...
--- "Vincent A. Primavera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > Is anyone out there using an Intel 82810e video I dont know, from harddrake I got Vendor: Intel Corporation Model: 810 (generic)82810 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] Bus Type: PCI but it is not e :-) but it is the same class i810 what is your problem? > card with Mandrake > 8.0(or otherwise...)? > > Thank you, > Vincent A. Primavera > > = S.KIEU _ http://messenger.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Messenger - Voice chat, mail alerts, stock quotes and favourite news and lots more!
Re: [expert] Show status of adsl connect
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 13:12 +0200, Gregor Maier wrote: > > 1. I put up a cronjob which sends 1 ping tom my own domain every 14 > > minutes. > > > in addition to this job you could also run this script as cronjob which will > check if the connection (ppp0 interface) is still up. if not it will reconnect > and it will also write to a logfile that the connection was down > I've written this script for a SuSE installation, so maybe you have to change > some directories... Cool! I'll have to modify a bit b/c I don't use the adsl script in the init-tree but the adsl-start script of the pppoe-package. Put it at the end of rc.local and (wonder why) had to put a 'route add default ppp0' behind that (or in ip-up). Otherwise I got a connection but no contact to the nameservers. I'll try your script this eve or tomorrow. wobo -- GPG-Fingerprint: FE5A 0891 7027 8D1B 4E3F 73C1 AD9B D732 A698 82EE For Public Key mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: GPG-Request --- ISDN4LINUX-FAQ -- Deutsch: http://www.wolf-b.de/i4l/i4lfaq-de.html
Re: [expert] Internal time
Have you ever configured NTP? "Bruce E.Harris" wrote: > I am running MDK 8.0 and every since this upgrade my computer will not keep > time. It loses about 3 hrs per day. Not sure if the CMOS battery is running > down or what. How can I get my system to automatically keep time with a clock > standard on the Internet? > > TIA > > Bruce -- Albert E. Whale - http://www.abs-comptech.com/aewhale.html -- ABS Computer Technology, Inc. - Computer & Networking Specialists Sr. Network, OpenView and Systems Consultant ANCE Managed Services, Inc. - http://www.ancegroup.com Vice President
Re: [expert] Any mutt users?
* Stardate: 2001-07-09 12:40 * Incoming subspace signal from Wolfgang Bornath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : > On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 10:42 +0200, Laurent CREPET wrote: > > I use fetchmail to retrieve my e-mails from multiple account, and it > > works well. > > Tell me if I'm wrong (since I don't use mutt directly with pop account)... > > A pop account is not seen as a mailbox for mutt. So the mail_check option > > seems to only check in new mail has arrived in one of the known mailboxes > > (see mailboxes in your muttrc file). > You're right! I should have thought about this. > AND I should have RTFM! There it says > 'set pop_checkinterval=n' retrieves mail from external POP3 mailbox every > n seconds. What mutt version do you have ? It gives an error with my version (1.2.5-i). > > > Have a look at fetchmail. It's great. > I'm sure it is and also procmail but this is a standalone box with not so > many different topics and/or Lists so I manage very well without extra > helpers. > > Thanks again to all helpful souls and *KEEP UP THE CLI in Linux!* > wobo -- Best regards, M@X. * Climate Control Psychedelic Soundscapes - http://go.to/cchq/ * Linux Shell Scripts & RPM Software Packages - http://go.to/conmen/
Re: [expert] Sound troubles
* Stardate: 2001-07-08 20:35 * Incoming subspace signal from claude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : > Hello, > The other day I accidently bumped the switch on my surge protector. After > reboot I had no sound. Actually I have no permission to the sound card as a > normal user (even tough I belong to the group sound). When I run mpg123 I > get this error > audio: Permission denied > The only way for me to get sound is as root. Any ideas? Please send help > this is my on source of tunes these days. > CjD This will probably get it going: As root, do: chmod 666 /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/midi* /dev/sequencer* -- Best regards, M@X. * Climate Control Psychedelic Soundscapes - http://go.to/cchq/ * Linux Shell Scripts & RPM Software Packages - http://go.to/conmen/
Re: [expert] Internal time
* Stardate: 2001-07-08 17:10 * Incoming subspace signal from x <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : > Install the ntp package, edit your config file to point it towards the > closest NTP server to your location, use the 'date' command to set the > system clock to a roughly accurate time (because it'll complain and fail if > the difference is too great), and start the daemon. > HTH, > -Charlie > - Original Message - > To: "Mandrake Expert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 1:14 PM > Subject: [expert] Internal time > > I am running MDK 8.0 and every since this upgrade my computer will not > keep > > time. It loses about 3 hrs per day. Not sure if the CMOS battery is > running > > down or what. How can I get my system to automatically keep time with a > clock > > standard on the Internet? > > TIA > > Bruce I have this in my /etc/ppp/ip-up.local. No need to install ntp. Install rdate. # Set system- and hardware clock from a remote NIST server. if [ -x /usr/bin/rdate ]; then /usr/bin/rdate -p -s 129.6.15.29 && /sbin/hwclock --systohc fi -- Best regards, M@X. * Climate Control Psychedelic Soundscapes - http://go.to/cchq/ * Linux Shell Scripts & RPM Software Packages - http://go.to/conmen/
Re: [expert] recompiled kernel
Dennis Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello List, > I am running default kernel 2.4.5-9.mdk, as confirmed by 'uname -sr' and the KDE >control centre, but the > linux splash screens on startup and shutdown still show the old 2.4.3-20.mdk kernel >which I recompiled > back in April. > Why is this? um, have you rebooted since compiling that kernel? Did you just do 'make' or instead did you do 'make install' when you recompiled your kernel? (and the modules - don't forget the modules!) (For first time kernel builds, I now do: vi Makefile; make oldconfig && make menuconfig && make clean && make dep && \ make install && make modules && make modules-install (I may have misspelled modules-install) During the vi of Makefile, I change the extraversion to something amusing (and different ;-) so that I get a new kernel version and modules version. Also, if I'm running X then I do make xconfig instead of make menuconfig) Finally, if I just want to build a floppy boot for testing, then I do 'make bzdisk' instead of the entire 2nd command line above (install, modules, modules-install). But you probably knew all of that ;-) (So, other experts, what have I missed in my first-time kernel build 'script'? I've heard tell here about 'make mrproper' - what are the side effects of doing an mrproper, and where should it go in the above sequence?) > How do I update these splash screens? TIA. Reboot using the kernel you built. It looks like either you have not rebooted since your build, or that kernel did not get used on the reboot. rc Rusty E. Carruth Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (480) 345-3621 SnailMail: Schlumberger ATE ___ FAX: (480) 345-8793 7855 S. River Parkway, Suite 116 \e/ Ham: N7IKQ @ 146.82+,pl 162.2 Tempe, AZ 85284-1825V ICBM: 33 20' 44"N 111 53' 47"W http://tuxedo.org/~esr/ecsl/index.html
Re: [expert] Internal time
* Stardate: 2001-07-08 16:14 * Incoming subspace signal from "Bruce E.Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : > I am running MDK 8.0 and every since this upgrade my computer will not keep > time. It loses about 3 hrs per day. Not sure if the CMOS battery is running > down or what. How can I get my system to automatically keep time with a clock > standard on the Internet? > TIA > Bruce Another option would be : http://home.wanadoo.nl/cchq/conmen/RPMS/i586/clockspeed-0.62-1.i586.rpm This program can synchronize and adjust the system clock with a remote NTP time server. -- Best regards, M@X. * Climate Control Psychedelic Soundscapes - http://go.to/cchq/ * Linux Shell Scripts & RPM Software Packages - http://go.to/conmen/
Re[2]: [expert] making shell script excutable.........
DStevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 09 July 2001 00:45, faisal gillani wrote: > > well i finally wrote my first shell script ... now i > > want to make it > > excutable ... i dont want to run it as ./filename > > i tried to make it excutable with the following > > command > > > > chmod a+x ./filename > This would make it executable, is it readable by the group who will be > executing it? Probably, since I assume the user who wrote it (Faisal, I assume) is testing it. > > is it ok ? > > if yes then why is it not working > > > I guess you mean it is working when you execute it from the directory where > it resides. That you currently have to enter the dot slash. That is because > the system variable $PATH does not have the parent directory in it, either > explicitly declared or as a relative '.' (a dot = current working directory > CWD) Also, if you are using a csh-variant, you will need to do 'rehash' to get the csh-variant to reload its cache of filenames. > The system does not know where to look for the executable, it tries to find > it in the paths, but to no avail. Typing ./program tells the system where it > is relative to the CWD. Sure, but if Faisal (and others ;-) do that, and it STILL does not work (giving something like 'program not found') then the problem is probably that the shebang line is wrong. Huh??? What's that??Right here: #!/bin/bash that's the shebang line. (the first line of any script should have the old 'shebang' (hash bang) to tell the system where the interpreter is) And if your path to your interpreter is wrong, you'll get the really helpful 'file not found' (or something like that) error. So, make sure you've got a shebang, and it points to the right place.. ON a slightly different note, and in response to the comments about having '.' in your path: Having '.' in your path is a bad thing, from a security point of view. (If you are root, then its more than just a bad thing, its an open invitation to be hacked). Its ESPECIALLY bad if its not the LAST thing in your path. WHy? because if its before /bin, and you change directory into a place where someone has installed a trojan program that also happens to live in /bin, and you try to run that program (or script, etc) from /bin, you get instead the trojan, and you've just been compromised Gotta run, sorry this is so 'short' ;-) rc Rusty E. Carruth Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (480) 345-3621 SnailMail: Schlumberger ATE ___ FAX: (480) 345-8793 7855 S. River Parkway, Suite 116 \e/ Ham: N7IKQ @ 146.82+,pl 162.2 Tempe, AZ 85284-1825V ICBM: 33 20' 44"N 111 53' 47"W http://tuxedo.org/~esr/ecsl/index.html
Re: [expert] Lack of standards
> Until these > inconsistencies are resolved, Linux will remain for hackers who have the > time and knowledge to fix things so that they will run, and the common > user will never get to reap the benefits os this otherwise wonderful > operating system. Two cases in point: More fuel for the fire I guess... Do you really want persons that can not edit a text file running linux at all? I'm not prepared to try to support people that can barely hold a mouse. The whole Linux replacing Windows on the desktop is stupid...who cares. I use Linux because it works, I like using it. On a entirely diffrent flame fest. If this is the Mandrake expert mailing list, I hate to see what the newbie list is like.
Re: [expert] recompiled kernel
On Monday 09 July 2001 09:29 am, Rusty Carruth wrote: vi Makefile; make oldconfig && make menuconfig && make clean && make > dep && \ make install && make modules && make modules-install > During the vi of Makefile, I change the extraversion to something > amusing (and different ;-) so that I get a new kernel version and > modules version. > > Also, if I'm running X then I do make xconfig instead of make > menuconfig) > (So, other experts, what have I missed in my first-time kernel build > 'script'? I've heard tell here about 'make mrproper' - what are the > side effects of doing an mrproper, and where should it go in the > above sequence?) Well, I'm no expert, but all of the above is sort'a what I use too. I use a different editor and change two items. The extraversion; I usually change -xxmdk to -xxtom. The next thing is to uncomment the line #export INSTALL_PATH=/boot so that the 'make install' step will put the new kernel in /boot. I believe you also forgot 'make bzImage' ;) The methods I use are all outlined at http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/install/kupgrade3.html 'make mrproper' is also in the MUO instructions. On the cooker list the developers are sayin to run mrproper on all, even virgin, 2.4.x kernel source. -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
[expert] SBLive! (lots of them)
I seem to have some weird stuff going on with the sound on my machine at the moment. I have 1 Soundblaster Live! installed in my machine. In an effort to get midi going, I have tried running alsaconf from the command line as suggested earlier on this list, I have also tried reconfiguring the card from Harddrake. The upshot of all this is that I now have three sound mixers. Two are labelled Creative SBLive and say - Invalid mixer "Creative SBLive" - when I bring them up in the GUI sound mixer. The third is labelled as TriTech (23) and sort of works, but the mixer is all confused and I have to control the volume to my front and rear speakers independently, I used to be able to control them both from the master volume when I had one Creative SBLive Mixer and no more. Can anyone help me get rid of these strange settings? BTW I just bought Mandrake 8 Powerpack today... Hey, maybe I could use some of my techsupport :-) Thanks in advance.
[Fwd: Re: [expert] Lack of standards]
Original Message Subject: Re: [expert] Lack of standards Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 09:39:12 -0600 From: "Alfredo J. Cole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: ACyC To: "M. Osten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> M. Osten wrote: > More fuel for the fire I guess... > > Do you really want persons that can not edit a text file running linux > at all? I'm not prepared to try to support people that can barely hold > a mouse. The whole Linux replacing Windows on the desktop is > stupid...who cares. I use Linux because it works, I like using it. > > On a entirely diffrent flame fest. If this is the Mandrake expert > mailing list, I hate to see what the newbie list is like. > > > > I'm afraid you are missing the point. This is not a matter of just editing a text file. And as far as Linux on the desktop, why do you think Mandrake goes to so much trouble in making installation as easy as possible? For experts we could have kept it the way it was back when we installed Slackware distributions from floppies ;-). Have a nice day. -- Alfredo J. Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tegucigalpa, Honduras -- Alfredo J. Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tegucigalpa, Honduras
[expert] LM 8.0 Extension disk
Hi: I have downloaded the iso image for LM 8.0 (Install and Extension disks). The installation goes well with the first disk, but it fails when the second disk is about to finish. The message is "Can not find hdlists" and goes back to the partition dialog. I have tried downloading the second disk from several different sites, but the results are always the same. LM 8.0 works fine if I install the first disk only, but would like to add the software from the second disk without doing individual packages one by one. Anybody had a similar problem? Thank you. -- Alfredo J. Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tegucigalpa, Honduras
RE: [expert] Installing Mandrake 8 on low memory machine
That's the same image I'm using too. Oh well. Red Hat still works and I don't use the laptop much so no great loss... David -Original Message- From: Digital Wokan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 12:21 PM To: David Joham Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Installing Mandrake 8 on low memory machine No. I just used the floppy image "cdrom.img". Sorry for the double response (yet again), but the "reply-to" still doesn't get set on the Mandrake Expert list. (Apparently not all "experts" are as lazy or inattentive to their addressees as I am.) David Joham wrote: > > Did you do anything special to have it ask you to format immediately? > > I have to use the boot disk and then choose F1 and then expert or text. It > loads the kernel, finds the CDROM and then goes into "second stage install" > At that point it dies. Going to tty4 (I think) to see the install log shows > that it found 48 Meg (correct) and that it isn't enough for the ramdisk. It > then shuts down with nothing else I can do. > > Thanks for your help... > > David > > -Original Message- > From: Digital Wokan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 10:14 PM > To: David Joham > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [expert] Installing Mandrake 8 on low memory machine > > Interesting. I ran into the RAM problem only attempting to do an FTP > install. At work, I've set up a 32MB box to act as a newsletter > server. While it's running 7.2 now due to 8.0's lack of the Sympa > package (nobody say anything about the Contribs package, I already tried > that), I did install 8.0 on it originally from a CD-ROM without any > problems. The only thing it asked was that I let it format and begin > using the swap partition immediately instead of after the install was > done. > > David Joham wrote: > > > > No, the FTP install didn't want to work either. I'm trying a standard > CDROM > > install > > > > David > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Digital Wokan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 9:49 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [expert] Installing Mandrake 8 on low memory machine > > > > Are you trying to do an FTP install? > > > > > David Joham wrote: > > > > > > Has anyone had any luck installing Mandrake 8 on a machine with > > > semi-low memory? > > > > > > I've got a Toshiba 435 CDS with 48M (the max) and Mandrake complains > > > that that is not enough to create its install ramdisk. That seems a > > > little odd to me since 48M for an install should be plenty. Also, > > > RedHat 7.1 installs fine on the same machine. Finally, I just > > > installed Mandrake 8 on another laptop with 48M and it worked fine. > > > > > > Is there any way to tell Mandrake in the install to simply go ahead > > > and let me take my chances? What would be different between the two > > > laptops with the same amount of memory? > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > David
FW: [expert] Mandrake Freq: Aurora Prevents Boot
Unfortunately Aurora fails to time out on these hangs and instead leaves the console in an apparently "stuck" state. While Aurora does a nice job of making startup "pretty", it seems rather lacking in function and recovery. One issue that concerned me was that while Aurora indicated that it was waiting for nmbd to start, a quick "samba status" from another machine (fortunately sshd had already started) showed that both smbd and nmbd had started properly. Is there some method - other than DrakConf - to disable Aurora in cases like this? For example, what if I didn't happen to have X installed on my 7.2 server or I didn't happen to have Exceed on my Win2K laptop? Chances are, I would still be stuck at the Aurora login screen. Does failsafe prevent Aurora from starting? Sorry for all the questions - I was unable to install 8.0 and while Freq is a development image, I would hate to see 8.1 end up with some real functionality issues such as these. For all of my "semi-techie" friends that want to try Linux, I would push them to either LM72 or RH71 right now. I would like to be able to recommend Freq or 8.1! == Original Message == Aurora is closely linked to initscripts and will hang when things are changed in them, and there is usually a lag until Aurora is modified to catch up. Civileme
Re: [expert] Any mutt users?
Hi Dude, got the same setup. Actually, I solved that using fetchmail and writing my mail into the local inbox (/var/spool/mail/). Was easyer - so I don't have to keep mutt up and running. Here my Fetchmailrc file: poll smtp.externalmailserver.ch protocol pop3 user blabou, with password "", is baba here with mda "formail -s procmail" My .procmailrc is quite emtpy ;) defaults are doing the Job. I do start the fetchmail-process with: "fetchmail -d 3600 --syslog" And that's it. It will get the mail whenever you want - you just have to issue the fetchmail command and the running process will check for mail. Hope I could help you... If any questions - just ask Cheers The Smurph On Sol-Date Sunday 08 July 2001 23:44, received hyperspace message from Wolfgang Bornath: > Hi, > > I know, in times of kmail et al it is hard to find any old fashioned > geeks with text based MUAs ;-) (Met some at LinuxTag in Stuttgart/Germany > though). > > My Q: I set up mutt on a standalone box. So I just compiled it with pop > option to gather my mail from my pop account by pressing 'G'. > Now that my box is running permanently with ADSL I wanted to change > Muttrc so that mutt gathers mail every 13 minutes. > Option in Muttrc should be 'set mail_check=15' but it doesn't work. > Can anyone point me into the right direction and push? > -- The one charm of marriage is that it makes a life of deception a neccessity. -- Oscar Wilde | Joerg Mertin : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Home)| | in Neuchâtel/Schweiz : [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Work)| | Stardust's LiNUX System : Mobile Diax: +41(0)76 / 490 52 54 | | PGP 2.6.3in Key on Demand : Voice & Fax: +41(0)32 / 725 52 54 | Home-Page: http://www.solsys.org
Re: [expert] Lack of standards
So sprach civileme am Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 05:33:09PM +: > distro because we haven't thoroughly tested it yet. It is in cooker if > anyone wants to download it and use it, so the complaint about packages that Actually, no, it's not in Cooker. gcc 3.0 is in contribs for the reason you mentioned. > legislated against the name 2.96 is vacuous for anyone of expert level. And packages which stop just because of the name "gcc 2.96" are broken. And I also doubt that those packages will compile cleanly with 3.0, as 3.0 is more like 2.96 than 2.95. Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.iso-top.de iso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 2 days 23 hours 28 minutes
[expert] RPM System about to be thrown thru window
I am having a nightmare with the RPM system. For example...trying to install the RPM for Wine. I have downloaded the latest version from web. I click on the RPM and rpminst tells me that the packages are already installed. Emhh. I did not install them, so the Mandrake install must have. I locate wine, which finds a handful of *wine* files. So, I try to uninstall the wine from the mandrake software manager...sorry can't do that, RPM database does not have wine installed. I can install it, but then rpminst telles me that it is already installed. So...I cannot uninstall it, nor can I install it. Catch22. Does anyone have any ideas. I've tried using the command: rpm -i codeweavers-wine-20010305-1.rpm but this tells me I need to run a command to upgrade my database to db3, whatever that may be. Help please...thanks. Dave
RE: [expert] LM 8.0 Extension disk
I got the same thing in one machine I was installing which was a AMD 700, I made a boot disk for network installation and everything worked. I hope this helps. Adriano Grassi -Original Message- From: Alfredo J. Cole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 11:59 AM To: Experts Subject: [expert] LM 8.0 Extension disk Hi: I have downloaded the iso image for LM 8.0 (Install and Extension disks). The installation goes well with the first disk, but it fails when the second disk is about to finish. The message is "Can not find hdlists" and goes back to the partition dialog. I have tried downloading the second disk from several different sites, but the results are always the same. LM 8.0 works fine if I install the first disk only, but would like to add the software from the second disk without doing individual packages one by one. Anybody had a similar problem? Thank you. -- Alfredo J. Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tegucigalpa, Honduras
Re: [expert] RPM System about to be thrown thru window
So sprach DStevenson am Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 05:47:53PM -0400:
> but this tells me I need to run a command to upgrade my database to db3,
> whatever that may be.
man rpm:
REBUILD DATABASE OPTIONS
The general form of an rpm rebuild database command is
rpm {--initdb|--rebuilddb} [-v] [--dbpath DIRECTORY]
[--root DIRECTORY]
Use --initdb to create a new database, use --rebuilddb to
rebuild the database indices from the installed package
headers.
-> rpm --rebuilddb
Alexander Skwar
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Re: FW: [expert] Mandrake Freq: Aurora Prevents Boot
X-RebelTech Is Here: www.rebeltech.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit i don't know what the solution is to what you were experiencing, but i was having the same problem. my solution was to simply turn the fool thing off. now everything boots fine without hangs or whatever. as a side note, i like to read OK or FAILED rather than a bunch of silly icons which mean nothing to me. but i do have to say that for those who don't want to see text messages scrolling by on boot, aurora is a really great step in the right direction. just not for me. my two cents. moose. On Monday 09 July 2001 09:29, you wrote: > Unfortunately Aurora fails to time out on these hangs and instead leaves > the console in an apparently "stuck" state. While Aurora does a nice job > of making startup "pretty", it seems rather lacking in function and > recovery. One issue that concerned me was that while Aurora indicated > that it was waiting for nmbd to start, a quick "samba status" from > another machine (fortunately sshd had already started) showed that both > smbd and nmbd had started properly. > > Is there some method - other than DrakConf - to disable Aurora in cases > like this? For example, what if I didn't happen to have X installed on > my 7.2 server or I didn't happen to have Exceed on my Win2K laptop? > Chances are, I would still be stuck at the Aurora login screen. Does > failsafe prevent Aurora from starting? > > Sorry for all the questions - I was unable to install 8.0 and while Freq > is a development image, I would hate to see 8.1 end up with some real > functionality issues such as these. For all of my "semi-techie" friends > that want to try Linux, I would push them to either LM72 or RH71 right > now. I would like to be able to recommend Freq or 8.1! > > == Original Message == > > Aurora is closely linked to initscripts and will hang when things are > changed > in them, and there is usually a lag until Aurora is modified to catch > up. > > Civileme
[expert] installing lm_sensors
X-RebelTech Is Here: www.rebeltech.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hi all, no one on the newbie list was able to answer this for me and someone suggested to ask here i have an abit bp6 motherboard running LM8 (2.4.3-20smp) with the smp kernel. i would very much like to be able to monitor my cpu and motherboard temperatures. i tried to install the package from binary, not source. i think i followed all the instructions. added the suggested lines to the rc.local and modules.conf but i can't get further. does anyone have any suggestions? did i just miss something in the directions? should i just compile a source package instead of using a binary? anyone used this on this motherboard? many thanks, moose.
[expert] Urgent! Cannot reinstall LM 8.0
Dear friends: Due to human error on my part (a nice way to say that I goofed big time), I will apparently have to reinstall LM 8.0. I set my Bios to CDrom, inserted CD1 and started my reinstallation. I am an old hand at this, so I should be able to do this blind-folded. HOWEVER, suddenly, at the second stage, LM 8.0 stops at: "Probing for serial ports." And it seems to stop at this point forever and forever. How do I UNinstall Linux properly so I can REinstall it properly from my CD? All right, I'll reveal my "human error": I inadvertently deleted my /etc/X11/XF86Config files. I created a new XF86Config file, but, alas, it's too late. LM80 cannot leap over that "probing serial ports" barrier. Thanks so very much, folks. Benjamin -- Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] RPM System about to be thrown thru window
On Monday 09 July 2001 14:00, Alexander Skwar wrote:
> So sprach DStevenson am Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 05:47:53PM -0400:
> > but this tells me I need to run a command to upgrade my database to db3,
> > whatever that may be.
>
> man rpm:
>REBUILD DATABASE OPTIONS
>The general form of an rpm rebuild database command is
>
>rpm {--initdb|--rebuilddb} [-v] [--dbpath DIRECTORY]
>[--root DIRECTORY]
>
>Use --initdb to create a new database, use --rebuilddb to
>rebuild the database indices from the installed package
>headers.
>
>
> -> rpm --rebuilddb
>
> Alexander Skwar
I have done a rpm --rebuilddb as root. Nothing has changed. When I try to
install wine, it says I need 'itcl', this according to RPM is not installed,
when I try to install it, it tells me it is installed.
Is there any way of hacking the database, or is the install looking for files
on the system that are part of the packages that is looking for?
Dave.
RE: [expert] Urgent! Cannot reinstall LM 8.0
Hello, 2 things to do or try; 1. If you don't need the serial ports disable them in the bios, that may get you thru with the install. 2. About uninstalling Linux, if you don't need the files just repartition or reformat your hard drive. I hope any of this helps. Best Regards, Adriano Grassi -Original Message- From: Benjamin Sher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 2:41 PM To: Expert Subject: [expert] Urgent! Cannot reinstall LM 8.0 Importance: High Dear friends: Due to human error on my part (a nice way to say that I goofed big time), I will apparently have to reinstall LM 8.0. I set my Bios to CDrom, inserted CD1 and started my reinstallation. I am an old hand at this, so I should be able to do this blind-folded. HOWEVER, suddenly, at the second stage, LM 8.0 stops at: "Probing for serial ports." And it seems to stop at this point forever and forever. How do I UNinstall Linux properly so I can REinstall it properly from my CD? All right, I'll reveal my "human error": I inadvertently deleted my /etc/X11/XF86Config files. I created a new XF86Config file, but, alas, it's too late. LM80 cannot leap over that "probing serial ports" barrier. Thanks so very much, folks. Benjamin -- Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[expert] How to setup dualhead
I have a Riva TNT and a ATI Mach 64 Rage II, is there any way to setup this a dual heads?? I've tried with no success, any procedure I must follow to get this working? Also my mouse stops working when I run Mandrake Control Center anyone experience the same problem? Thanks for your time. Regards, Adriano Grassi
[expert] DvD and DivX players recomended in LM8?
Hi all I have a LM8 Freq (26June) in my laptop and I want to install something that reproduces DVD and DivX. I tried xine and XMPS but the first I have a problems with imlib and the second with gcc (version 3.0 required) and the question is: There is an player for reproduces DIvX and DVD that Works in Mandrake 8.0? I need info, experiences thanks in advance.
Re: [expert] DvD and DivX players recomended in LM8?
> Hi all I have a LM8 Freq (26June) in my laptop and I want to install > something that reproduces DVD and DivX. I tried xine and XMPS but the first I > have a problems with imlib and the second with gcc (version 3.0 required) and > the question is: > There is an player for reproduces DIvX and DVD that Works in Mandrake 8.0? > I need info, experiences > thanks in advance. xmms-avi and drip. both located on sourceforge.net . --- |o_o | |:_/ | Michael Osten // \ \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (| | ) Reefedge Inc. /'\_ _/`\ \___)=(___/
[expert] DNS2GO (Anyone?)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello guys.. Is anyone using dns2go on mandrake-8.0 (succesfully?) I have tried almost everything and all I get is a segfault (core dumped) First I tried from the RPM file, nothing then I try installing from tar... same thing! sk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7Si/GxADZgsHjqNkRArJtAJwMJXx3Qr3yx4BwErZIaE38iXQf8ACgrrbP PaHTsyzhtNPS+jq/BT/Cf5k= =gx3Y -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [expert] Any mutt users?
On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 00:27 +0200, Maxim Heijndijk wrote: > * Stardate: 2001-07-09 21:11 > * Incoming subspace signal from "Wolfgang Bornath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" : > > > On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 16:16 +0200, Maxim Heijndijk wrote: > > > What mutt version do you have ? It gives an error with my version (1.2.5-i). > > User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i > > (Version included in Linux-Mandrake 8.0) > > wobo > > I tried that version also, but the file browser command 'c' '?' didn't work. Does it > work on your system ? I now have mutt from mdk 7.2 installed on a 8.0 > system. Yes it does work. No Probs here. wobo -- GPG-Fingerprint: FE5A 0891 7027 8D1B 4E3F 73C1 AD9B D732 A698 82EE For Public Key mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: GPG-Request --- ISDN4LINUX-FAQ -- Deutsch: http://www.wolf-b.de/i4l/i4lfaq-de.html
Re: [expert] RPM System about to be thrown thru window
* Stardate: 2001-07-09 17:47 * Incoming subspace signal from "DStevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" : > I am having a nightmare with the RPM system. > For example...trying to install the RPM for Wine. I have downloaded the > latest version from web. I click on the RPM and rpminst tells me that the > packages are already installed. Emhh. I did not install them, so the Mandrake > install must have. I locate wine, which finds a handful of *wine* files. So, > I try to uninstall the wine from the mandrake software manager...sorry can't > do that, RPM database does not have wine installed. I can install it, but > then rpminst telles me that it is already installed. > So...I cannot uninstall it, nor can I install it. Catch22. Does anyone have > any ideas. I've tried using the command: > rpm -i codeweavers-wine-20010305-1.rpm > but this tells me I need to run a command to upgrade my database to db3, > whatever that may be. > Help please...thanks. > Dave Do you know about 'rpm -Uvh --nodeps --force codeweavers-wine-20010305-1.rpm' ? Try it ! -- Best regards, M@X. * Climate Control Psychedelic Soundscapes - http://go.to/cchq/ * Linux Shell Scripts & RPM Software Packages - http://go.to/conmen/
Re: [expert] Intel 82810e...
I know i810 is very lame chipset but if you got it so make it works is not hard. XFree 4.0.3 support this out of the box with 3 d acceleration (butno AA font). XFree 4.1.0 is completed this part. For me things are smooth with the LM 8.0 installation (yes the ugly low resolution in install program but when you start X really it is gone). Try it. You can configure it later using Xconfigurator (remove config file first) best luck = S.KIEU _ http://messenger.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Messenger - Voice chat, mail alerts, stock quotes and favourite news and lots more!
Re: [expert] Intel 82810e...
Just a note if you have not bought it yet, dont buy it. (if you need play fancy games or use graphic intensively, otherwise it will be fine --- "Vincent A. Primavera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > I haven't attempted to install it yet because > when the install starts > the graphics are a really low resolution. The last > time that I installed in > that graphics "mode" I couldn't get X to run. What > do you think? > > Thank you, > Vincent A. Primavera > > - Original Message - > From: "Steve Kieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "maillist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 7:35 AM > Subject: Re: [expert] Intel 82810e... > > > > --- "Vincent A. Primavera" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > > Is anyone out there using an Intel 82810e > video > > > > I dont know, from harddrake I got > > > > Vendor: Intel Corporation > > > > Model: 810 (generic) 82810 CGC [Chipset Graphics > > Controller] > > Bus Type: PCI > > > > but it is not e :-) > > but it is the same class i810 > > > > what is your problem? > > > > > > > card with Mandrake > > > 8.0(or otherwise...)? > > > > > > Thank you, > > > Vincent A. Primavera > > > > > > > > > > = > > S.KIEU > > > > > > _ > > http://messenger.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Messenger > > - Voice chat, mail alerts, stock quotes and > favourite news and lots more! > > > > > = S.KIEU _ http://messenger.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Messenger - Voice chat, mail alerts, stock quotes and favourite news and lots more!
Re: [expert] open source documentation
On Monday 09 July 2001 05:13 pm, Robert wrote: > What do you think of this > > With the mass of how -tos on the net, I think it would be helpful to > have then printed, bound and offered for sale, for the cost of the > "publishing" , kinkos style publishing that is. Does anyone have any > thoughts? I know many users of anything would prefer hard copy instructions, while many like myself, when i open a box, that's the first thing I throw away, last thing I look for ;~>> Problem with hardcopy instructions and tutorials for computers users, any OS, is that they're usually obsolete, dated, maybe even misleading ... by the time the ink is dry. Best docs, tutorials, and advice for Linux will be found online. I know it's easier to learn how to open the cover of a book, but research online will yield better results. Specially after you gain some Web searching skills and begin to intuitively learn where to look first. (which is often Google ;) I don't believe there's any distro that has made a bigger effort to provide more online resources than Mandrake has/does. OTOH, many resources are dated, whether printed or online. They were produced by people who volunteered their time and effort. The only reason they're maybe not current is because new volunteers . haven't. -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [expert] open source documentation
On Mon Jul 09, 2001 at 06:13:43PM -0400, Robert wrote: > What do you think of this > > With the mass of how -tos on the net, I think it would be helpful to have > then printed, bound and offered for sale, for the cost of the "publishing" , > kinkos style publishing that is. Does anyone have any thoughts? It's been done. "Linux Complete" published by Sybex (ISBN 0-7821-2567-0). Could probably use some updating as it was done in 1999 (at least the one I have), but it's basically all the how-tos in one big 1000 page book. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], OpenPGP key available on www.keyserver.net 1024D/FE6F2AFD 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD - Danen Consulting Serviceswww.danen.net, www.freezer-burn.org - MandrakeSoft, Inc. Security www.linux-mandrake.com Current Linux kernel 2.4.3-20mdk-win4lin uptime: 6 days 9 hours 31 minutes. PGP signature
Re: [expert] Lack of standards
On Monday 09 July 2001 11:02, M. Osten wrote: > > Until these > > inconsistencies are resolved, Linux will remain for hackers who have > > the > > > time and knowledge to fix things so that they will run, and the common > > user will never get to reap the benefits os this otherwise wonderful > > operating system. Two cases in point: > > More fuel for the fire I guess... > > Do you really want persons that can not edit a text file running linux > at all? I'm not prepared to try to support people that can barely hold > a mouse. The whole Linux replacing Windows on the desktop is > stupid...who cares. I use Linux because it works, I like using it. > > On a entirely diffrent flame fest. If this is the Mandrake expert > mailing list, I hate to see what the newbie list is like. I want everybody running Linux, because it is better. Part of my point is that even if you are willing (and like) to compile stuff in order to install it, often times it becomes an all day steeple chase downloading tarballs, finding incompatibilites, downloading more tar ballls, repeat; broken only by a set of source code refusing to even configure using your compiler (having to symlink a library is no biggie -- troubleshooting - cool). I guess this is exactly what I want to avoid, Linux becoming an OS that you just load and take what you get. mg
Re: [expert] Lack of standards
Tom Brinkman wrote: > > > Until these > > > inconsistencies are resolved, Linux will remain for hackers who > > > time and knowledge to fix things so that they will run, and the > > > common user will never get to reap the benefits os this otherwise > > > wonderful operating system. > > On Monday 09 July 2001 10:02 am, M. Osten wrote: > > Do you really want persons that can not edit a text file running > > linux at all? I'm not prepared to try to support people that can > > barely hold a mouse. The whole Linux replacing Windows on the > > desktop is stupid...who cares. I use Linux because it works, I like > > using it. > > Amen. (see below) > > > > On a entirely diffrent flame fest. If this is the Mandrake expert > > mailing list, I hate to see what the newbie list is like. > >I recently re-subscribed after takin several months off. Nothin's > changed, it's still dominated by those who want hand holding, obviously > haven't made the slightest effort to research their problem, and many > don't even think that learning to use Linux is, or even should be their > responsibility. The majority also want to place blame and criticise the > OS. They've never been willing to approach problems as user - hardware > - and lastly the OS, any OS. A few are insistent and abusive also. > Most have no idea of the difference between open and closed source > soft/hardware, or want to be bothered. They blame Mandrake for their > winmodem, aureal sound, or GeForce not being supported right out of the > box. If I read "but it works great with Windows" one more time . > > Guess I need another break from the newbie list ;) > I think I saw it explained most eloquently in a not to distant post. It was either here or on the samba list. It addressed the dramatic increase in the number and complexity (or lack thereof) in the variety of questions being posted. Largely the same issues addressed above. The rationalization of the dramatic increase was that: "We are the victims of our own success" With the installed user base of Linux experiencing a dramatic increase, the mailing lists become both the guiding light and the scapegoat for many users wanting "in on the game." A large source of the frustration may stem from users that want to have their cake and eat it too. Meaning, that a new user may expect to have a rock solid Linux system install (which many do), and then also want to immediately upgrade to all the latest buttons, bells, whistles, kernels and the like at the same time without ever getting to know the basic install. The cure: "KNOW YOUR SYSTEM FIRST, then incrementally incorporate the latest changes as required" Linux is a very flexible and elegant OS and quite easy (although sometimes painful) to learn. Don't try to swallow the penguin all at once! The "cup is half-full" side to the "Lack of Standards" argument is the "Rapid Progress" being made and "Healthy Competition Coupled with Enginuity" within Linux development community. To call this a "Lack of Standards" is at best a misunderstanding of the open source concept and a worst a calculated "issue" spin doctored by our dear friends at M$. Gotta Go, my 2 yr. old needs some daddy time... -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. ASEL -- Instrument Nacogdoches, Texas N31 34.7 W094 42.6 355 MSL
Re: [expert] open source documentation
On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:09, Tom Brinkman wrote: > On Monday 09 July 2001 05:13 pm, Robert wrote: > > What do you think of this > > > > With the mass of how -tos on the net, I think it would be helpful to > > have then printed, bound and offered for sale, for the cost of the > > "publishing" , kinkos style publishing that is. Does anyone have any > > thoughts? > > I know many users of anything would prefer hard copy instructions, > while many like myself, when i open a box, that's the first thing I > throw away, last thing I look for ;~>> > > Problem with hardcopy instructions and tutorials for computers > users, any OS, is that they're usually obsolete, dated, maybe even > misleading ... by the time the ink is dry. > > Best docs, tutorials, and advice for Linux will be found online. > I know it's easier to learn how to open the cover of a book, but > research online will yield better results. Specially after you gain > some Web searching skills and begin to intuitively learn where to look > first. (which is often Google ;) > >I don't believe there's any distro that has made a bigger effort to > provide more online resources than Mandrake has/does. OTOH, many > resources are dated, whether printed or online. They were produced by > people who volunteered their time and effort. The only reason they're > maybe not current is because new volunteers . haven't. It is true about online documentation being more current than the printed ones, but there are advantages to having a hardcopy. IMHO, having a reference open next to your computer is a lot more usable than having to switch between views on a screen to read command options. Besides, to answer Robert's question, there is a book (there might be others) called Linux Complete (ISBN 1-57176-199-3 1956), which has a lot of the HOWTOS and many MAN pages as well. George
Re: [expert] Cannot do ftpd, webmin, linuxconf-web
About webmin, have you tried http://localhost:1 ??? you can only use https if you have the ssh modules... orlando Praedor Tempus wrote: > I don't get it. I have wu-ftpd installed (2.6.1), I have the latest webmin > and linux-conf and all installed. I can start webmin but every time I try to > connect to https://localhost:1 I instantly get a message that I cannot > connect to localhost. I checked my hosts.deny and my local address is not in > it. I even added it to hosts.allow for good measure. Nontheless, webmin > starts but I cannot connect to myself for webmin. There is no entry related > to webmin in /var/log/messages. > > I cannot start wu.ftpd. I have it installed but whenever I try to start it, > I get an error message about it being an unrecognized service. If I look at > /var/log/messages, I see: Jul 9 19:45:01 localhost ftpd[4980]: getpeername > (wu.ftpd): Socket operation on non-socket > > What exactly does this mean? How do I fix it to actually run? > > Finally, I try to run linuxconf-web and get "unrecognized service" messages > whenever I try to start it (it is installed). > > Anyone? Please? > > . > >
Re: [expert] Lack of standards
> I want everybody running Linux, because it is better. I don't. I like the fact that it takes skills to run a successful linux box. I like the fact that I can talk to other linux users and not get blank drooling faces. > I guess this > is exactly what I want to avoid, Linux becoming an OS that you just load and > take what you get. Exactly. The free os's are customizable limited only by your imagination. Think about what you would like your computer to do, with enough work, skill and vision, it can do anything. For that comes a price. Continuing efforts to cater to the unwashed masses will continue, and I will use the efforts that I like, but I'm not about to start complaining about my free meal. . --- |o_o | |:_/ | Michael Osten // \ \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (| | ) Reefedge Inc. /'\_ _/`\ \___)=(___/
Re: [expert] Lack of standards
On Monday 09 July 2001 20:51, David Rankin wrote: > The "cup is half-full" side to the "Lack of Standards" argument is the > "Rapid Progress" being made and "Healthy Competition Coupled with > Enginuity" within Linux development community. To call this a "Lack of > Standards" is at best a misunderstanding of the open source concept and a > worst a calculated "issue" spin doctored by our dear friends at M$. > > Gotta Go, my 2 yr. old needs some daddy time... > > -- > David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. > ASEL -- Instrument > Nacogdoches, Texas > N31 34.7 W094 42.6 > 355 MSL That has got to be the silliest thing I have ever heard. Yes, it does take discipline to grow and remain organized. This is not a "Linux Community" issue, this is departing from the Linux community. Perhaps you are too young to remember the UNIX wars. I have been programming UNIX since 1982, and frankly I spit on M$. Branching off so that users are stuck with your way your doing things is very M$. It is natural when a strong advocate of Linux, like myself, sees this kind of devisivness to become disturbed. Get something else to massage your ego, join the revolution. Linux is about freedom, an escape from tyrany. Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not, for such is the new kingdom. mg
Re: [expert] Lack of standards
On Monday 09 July 2001 12:03, Tom Brinkman wrote: > > > Until these > > > inconsistencies are resolved, Linux will remain for hackers who > > > time and knowledge to fix things so that they will run, and the > > > common user will never get to reap the benefits os this otherwise > > > wonderful operating system. > > On Monday 09 July 2001 10:02 am, M. Osten wrote: > > Do you really want persons that can not edit a text file running > > linux at all? I'm not prepared to try to support people that can > > barely hold a mouse. The whole Linux replacing Windows on the > > desktop is stupid...who cares. I use Linux because it works, I like > > using it. > > Amen. (see below) > > > On a entirely diffrent flame fest. If this is the Mandrake expert > > mailing list, I hate to see what the newbie list is like. > >I recently re-subscribed after takin several months off. Nothin's > changed, it's still dominated by those who want hand holding, obviously > haven't made the slightest effort to research their problem, and many > don't even think that learning to use Linux is, or even should be their > responsibility. The majority also want to place blame and criticise the > OS. They've never been willing to approach problems as user - hardware > - and lastly the OS, any OS. A few are insistent and abusive also. > Most have no idea of the difference between open and closed source > soft/hardware, or want to be bothered. They blame Mandrake for their > winmodem, aureal sound, or GeForce not being supported right out of the > box. If I read "but it works great with Windows" one more time . > > Guess I need another break from the newbie list ;) You envision this as a mutual admiration society? I thought of it as a place to access experts, and lend a hand. Oh, and the whole point is it doesn't work great with Windows; it works great with Linux. Let's work to keep Linux great, to make the appelation "expert" mean something. If the whole landscape changes drastically with every release, then what is "expert?" This is how M$ behaves; why bother to MCSE if it will be obsolete in 6 months. Nearly everything I have known about UNIX is still valuable today; the files are in about the same place, the scripts work; and it has changed many times. It just hasn't broken the knowledge base.
Re: [expert] Lack of standards
On Monday 09 July 2001 13:07, Alexander Skwar wrote: > So sprach civileme am Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 05:33:09PM +: > > distro because we haven't thoroughly tested it yet. It is in cooker if > > anyone wants to download it and use it, so the complaint about packages > > that > > Actually, no, it's not in Cooker. gcc 3.0 is in contribs for the reason > you mentioned. > > > legislated against the name 2.96 is vacuous for anyone of expert level. > > And packages which stop just because of the name "gcc 2.96" are broken. > And I also doubt that those packages will compile cleanly with 3.0, as > 3.0 is more like 2.96 than 2.95. > > Alexander Skwar Mplayer's config file suggested 3.0. I haven't tried it (I will more likely edit the config file to excise the exclusion). Some of our systems need to be running; it is nice to play - but it is good to get in, compile and get out (sometimes).
Re: [Fwd: Re: [expert] Lack of standards]
On Monday 09 July 2001 11:40, Alfredo J. Cole wrote: > Original Message > Subject: Re: [expert] Lack of standards > Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 09:39:12 -0600 > From: "Alfredo J. Cole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Organization: ACyC > To: "M. Osten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > M. Osten wrote: > > More fuel for the fire I guess... > > > > Do you really want persons that can not edit a text file running linux > > at all? I'm not prepared to try to support people that can barely hold > > a mouse. The whole Linux replacing Windows on the desktop is > > stupid...who cares. I use Linux because it works, I like using it. > > > > On a entirely diffrent flame fest. If this is the Mandrake expert > > mailing list, I hate to see what the newbie list is like. > > I'm afraid you are missing the point. This is not a matter of just > editing a text file. And as far as Linux on the desktop, why do you > think Mandrake goes to so much trouble in making installation as easy as > possible? For experts we could have kept it the way it was back when we > installed Slackware distributions from floppies ;-). Have a nice day. Yes it would be easier for me to just deal with the files, but some of them are moved or deprecated (/etc/sysint/*). I am all for the GUI (I want everybody to use Linux), but leave the file where they belong, so as the grow they may leave behind childish things. mg
[expert] How to install EVERYTHING on LM 8.0?
Dear friends: This may seem like a trivial question, but it's been driving me crazy. I have to reinstall LM 8.0, and, for the life of me, I can't find any option to INSTALL EVERYTHING. One click of the mouse and you just install everything on LM 8.0 (at least the 2 CD version, which totals 3.6 gig, I believe). Red Hat 5.2 used to have that option. You could just select "Everything", relax, go for a walk, walk on your hands, whatever. You didn't have to THINK about what to download and what not. I switched to Mandrake after Red Hat 6.0 so i don't know whether that option is still available in Red Hat. However, I can't help but wonder whether a) such an option does exist buried somewhere deep within LM 8.0 or b) whether there is no such option at all, and if not, then, by God, why not? I don't mean selecting groups of programs or sets or parts of sets. I mean clicking on an option that says: INSTALL EVERYTHING, every file and byte on these CD's. After installation, you can aquaint yourself with all the goodies in LM 8.0, but why force the user to have to THINK about what's on those CD's before installation. Just get it on the hard drive first, get LM 8.0 fully installed and then you can enjoy leisurely exploring its riches. Does any of this make sense to you all? Has anyone ever wondered about this. I mean, even if you have a 20 Gig hardrive, you won't be able to, you can't install all of LM in one go. There is no option for it. Am I right? I certainly hope I am wrong. I sure could use such an option right now before I go really batty. Thanks so much for listening. Looking forward to your answers. Benjamin -- Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] Lack of standards
mike wrote: > On Monday 09 July 2001 20:51, David Rankin wrote: > > > The "cup is half-full" side to the "Lack of Standards" argument is the > > "Rapid Progress" being made and "Healthy Competition Coupled with > > Enginuity" within Linux development community. To call this a "Lack of > > Standards" is at best a misunderstanding of the open source concept and a > > worst a calculated "issue" spin doctored by our dear friends at M$. > > > > Gotta Go, my 2 yr. old needs some daddy time... > > > > -- > > David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. > > ASEL -- Instrument > > Nacogdoches, Texas > > N31 34.7 W094 42.6 > > 355 MSL > > That has got to be the silliest thing I have ever heard. Yes, it does take > discipline to grow and remain organized. This is not a "Linux Community" > issue, this is departing from the Linux community. Perhaps you are too young > to remember the UNIX wars. I have been programming UNIX since 1982, and > frankly I spit on M$. Branching off so that users are stuck with your way > your doing things is very M$. It is natural when a strong advocate of Linux, > like myself, sees this kind of devisivness to become disturbed. > > Get something else to massage your ego, join the revolution. Linux is about > freedom, an escape from tyrany. > > Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not, for such is > the new kingdom. > > mg Easy Flicker, Let's look at this from another direction. First the issues you raise about a lack of interoperability amoung the distributions and backwards compatibility/dependency problems are valid and frustrating. The challenge is to determine how to eliminate as much of the problems as possible without squelching the benefitial competition amoung the distributions. The issue may be something that needs to be dealt with on a release and/or version basis - and thus standards are required. A great example of the backwards compatibility/dependency problem issue is the LM7.2 - LM8.0 transition. The release of many new-upgraded core components in 8.0, including X, rpm, reiserf, to name a few presented new challenges. The question is how to anticipate and convey known release compatibility/dependency problems to users before the new release is -- well released. Many of the issues cannot be anticipated until the new version receives a litmus test by a broad range of users. To some extent these issues will always be present. I think as much advance warning about what is known about compatibility/dependency issues being made available before the configure/make/make install or rpm -Uvh happens will lessen squawks to the list. Second issue, software incompatibility amoung distributions. On this list, several months ago there was a discussion about defining what "core components" or "packages" of a Linux distribution are and trying to set a "standard" that could be agreed upon between the distributions and relied upon by people developing for Linux open source. Last I recall, the discussion stale mated due to the vast difference in what packages get installed depending upon whether a workstation, server, custom or expert installation was selected by default. A second hurdle (not impossibility) to get over would be coordinating amoung the distributions to get agreement for a uniform release or identification of just exactly which standard Linux was being released at any given time. My suggestion would be to define what, say a "Linux2001-1" standard would be. This would be a standard of core compatible packages that all distributions could agree would be the core set of a release for a given period of time until the "Linux2001-2" standard had been approved by "some body politic" yet to be established. The standard should be broad enough to eliminate a majority of present incompatibilities. The individual distros would be free to tack on whatever else they felt like including without affecting the uniformity of the core distribution. So if a standard core for Linux is the solution, What are the core packages? Kernel - sure. Windows managers - sure, Networking - (getting grey), but sure. Hardware support - should be sure. (A release deadline for inclusion might force manufactures get their Linux support done (or actually do Linux support) or miss out on a growing market) I know I don't know enough about Linux to answer the question about what is and what isn't the standard core for Linux. Will this work? -- I have no idea. It's simply one approach to addressing the cross distribution incompatibility issue you raised and a suggestion for a "standard" to prevent further fragmentation of what Linux is. There are probably a number of different approaches to this problem that would be better and more workable that what I have suggested. This is only my suggestion. Let's see what everyone else has to say on the issue -- and perhaps -- just perhaps, we may blindly stumble onto a workable set of "standards" that eliminates these issues and, in doing so, makes Linux a
[expert] Multiple network cards in a Mandrake firewall/switch combination
Hello I hope that this can be done. I currently have a LM7.2 box as a firewall for our internet access. Cable modem from ISP is going to eth0. eth1 (100baseT) is going to the internal network. What I need to do, is add a 3rd network card to allow me to also have a 10baseT network within the local netwok. Can this be done with Linux? Have not been able to find any information in the how-to's on this configuration. I also, if need be, have access to a second Linux file server, that I could add additional network cards into (it currently only has 1 card in it) I am currently using class C IP 's in the 192.168.1.X range, but this is flexible if required. Thanks Darcy
Re: [expert] Seagate 20.4 Gig HD for $74 -- Good deal?
My vendor of choice is ucdweb- http://www.ucdweb.com/ They've been a very reliable vendor for me - first experience was February 1998, buying drives for a database server's RAID. 4 IBM 4GB SCSI disks - all of which are alive and kicking over 3 years later. :) By comparison, the majority of the Seagates from that period and younger I've had bit the dust some time ago. I most recently got a 75GB IBM IDE disk from them for my g/f's workstation. That works fine under Linux Mandrake, as well, but her K6-2's motherboard (Asus A7V) did not recognize the full size of the drive out of the box. One of those Promise Ultra100 cards was required to get everything working together. Mandrake 8 works happily with it with the ide=reverse option in lilo.conf (or on the lilo boot prompt before you've had a chance to edit lilo.conf) Anyway, the prices: IBM 20GB ATA/100 7200RPM drives w/ 8.5ms seek are $98, Maxtor 20GB ATA/100 7200RPM 9.5ms seek are $92. (the low-end maxtors presumably w/ 5400RPM are $81) Hope this helps! -pete On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Larry Sword wrote: > Benjamin Sher wrote: > > > > Dear friends: > > > > I am about to buy a 20.4 gig hardrive for my AMD K6-2 400 Mhz and LM > > 8.0. I would appreciate your professional advise. I am considering > > buying it from TigerDirect. The Seagate 20.4 HD has a "Seek time" of > > 8.9, a transfer rate of 100MB/s an rpm of 5400, a buffer of 512 and 3 > > The Ultra ATA/100 @ 5400 RPM will not give you much improvement with > your present motherboard and onboard ide controller. > You might want to look at a drive with 7200 RPM which would give some > speed boost. > IBM, or Maxtor; I've had good success with these. > LM 8.0 will have no problem handling a 20.4 Gig drive assuming that your > motherboard and BIOS supports drives of this size. > A 20 Gig 7200 RPM drive goes for about $79-89 here in San Diego, but > then we have an extremely competitive market. > > > years warranty for $74. I am not concerned about whether it's the state > > of the art. My AMD K6-2 is already an antique. But I am concerned about > > reliability and performance. And, most of all, I would like to know > > whether LM 8.0 can handle a 20.4 Gig hard drive in the first place. > > > > I would appreciate your opinions. > > > > Thanks so much. > > > > Benjamin > > > > -- > > Sher's Russian Web > > http://www.websher.net > > Benjamin and Anna Sher > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Larry > -- > Sword'sEdge > VoiceMail/Fax: (858) 860-6406 x1587 >
Re: [expert] How to install EVERYTHING on LM 8.0?
On Monday 09 July 2001 23:03, Benjamin Sher wrote: > Dear friends: > > > This may seem like a trivial question, but it's been driving me crazy. I > have to reinstall LM 8.0, and, for the life of me, I can't find any > option to INSTALL EVERYTHING. One click of the mouse and you just > install everything on LM 8.0 (at least the 2 CD version, which totals > 3.6 gig, I believe). Red Hat 5.2 used to have that option. You could > just select "Everything", relax, go for a walk, walk on your hands, > whatever. You didn't have to THINK about what to download and what not. > I switched to Mandrake after Red Hat 6.0 so i don't know whether that > option is still available in Red Hat. However, I can't help but wonder > whether a) such an option does exist buried somewhere deep within LM 8.0 > or b) whether there is no such option at all, and if not, then, by God, > why not? I don't mean selecting groups of programs or sets or parts of > sets. I mean clicking on an option that says: INSTALL EVERYTHING, every > file and byte on these CD's. After installation, you can aquaint > yourself with all the goodies in LM 8.0, but why force the user to have > to THINK about what's on those CD's before installation. Just get it on > the hard drive first, get LM 8.0 fully installed and then you can enjoy > leisurely exploring its riches. > > Does any of this make sense to you all? Has anyone ever wondered about > this. I mean, even if you have a 20 Gig hardrive, you won't be able to, > you can't install all of LM in one go. There is no option for it. Am I > right? I certainly hope I am wrong. I sure could use such an option > right now before I go really batty. > > Thanks so much for listening. Looking forward to your answers. > > Benjamin I cannot think of a time when "everything" was truly "everything". If for no other reason, some packages conflict with others. You can still select all of the top level options and get 95% of the packages (of the ones that are not installed most are pretty esoteric, but one or two -- oh those one or two -- are really great). In any case you can choose to select packages individually, and honor dependancies, about 30-45 minutes work and select everything (though it seems I did this and didn't get the "supplementary applications" CDs -- a problem you won't have with the 2 CD set anyway).
Re: [expert] Seagate 20.4 Gig HD for $74 -- Good deal?
On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > That works fine under Linux Mandrake, as well, but her > K6-2's motherboard (Asus A7V) did not recognize the full size of the drive > out of the box. Correction - the motherboard is P5A, not A7V. You'd just break pins trying to use a K6-2 in an A7V (being for athlons and all). ;)
Re: [expert] How to install EVERYTHING on LM 8.0?
On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Benjamin Sher wrote: > Dear friends: > > > This may seem like a trivial question, but it's been driving me crazy. I > have to reinstall LM 8.0, and, for the life of me, I can't find any > option to INSTALL EVERYTHING. One click of the mouse and you just > install everything on LM 8.0 (at least the 2 CD version, which totals > 3.6 gig, I believe). Red Hat 5.2 used to have that option. You could > just select "Everything", relax, go for a walk, walk on your hands, > whatever. You didn't have to THINK about what to download and what not. > I switched to Mandrake after Red Hat 6.0 so i don't know whether that > option is still available in Red Hat. However, I can't help but wonder > whether a) such an option does exist buried somewhere deep within LM 8.0 > or b) whether there is no such option at all, and if not, then, by God, > why not? I don't mean selecting groups of programs or sets or parts of > sets. I mean clicking on an option that says: INSTALL EVERYTHING, every > file and byte on these CD's. After installation, you can aquaint > yourself with all the goodies in LM 8.0, but why force the user to have > to THINK about what's on those CD's before installation. Just get it on > the hard drive first, get LM 8.0 fully installed and then you can enjoy > leisurely exploring its riches. >From what I can tell (I have no special information as the mandrake developers might), there are two ways of going about doing this: 1) Select all package groups at the package Group selection part at install time, then use Individual Package selection to select the remaining ones. Or, 2) After having installed, run rpm -i *rpm in the RPMS/ directory of both CD's (assuming the GPL edition) Of course, you'll get lots of error messages about packages already installed, and possibly that a package conflicts with another one (eg., postfix and sendmail may not want to be installed together). > Does any of this make sense to you all? Has anyone ever wondered about > this. I mean, even if you have a 20 Gig hardrive, you won't be able to, > you can't install all of LM in one go. There is no option for it. Am I > right? I certainly hope I am wrong. I sure could use such an option > right now before I go really batty. Being a Debian refugee, the option "install everything" just doesn't feel right. Debian got me used to having a huge number packages that are completely extraneous and some which are mutually incompatible. > > Thanks so much for listening. Looking forward to your answers. > > Benjamin -pete
Re: [expert] RPM System about to be thrown thru window
On Monday 09 July 2001 18:27, Maxim Heijndijk wrote: > * Stardate: 2001-07-09 17:47 > > * Incoming subspace signal from "DStevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" : > > I am having a nightmare with the RPM system. > > For example...trying to install the RPM for Wine. I have downloaded the > > latest version from web. I click on the RPM and rpminst tells me that the > > packages are already installed. Emhh. I did not install them, so the > > Mandrake install must have. I locate wine, which finds a handful of > > *wine* files. So, I try to uninstall the wine from the mandrake software > > manager...sorry can't do that, RPM database does not have wine installed. > > I can install it, but then rpminst telles me that it is already > > installed. > > So...I cannot uninstall it, nor can I install it. Catch22. Does anyone > > have any ideas. I've tried using the command: > > rpm -i codeweavers-wine-20010305-1.rpm > > but this tells me I need to run a command to upgrade my database to db3, > > whatever that may be. > > Help please...thanks. > > Dave > > Do you know about 'rpm -Uvh --nodeps --force > codeweavers-wine-20010305-1.rpm' ? > > Try it ! Thanks for all the suggestions. I got the ictl installed using the force option, after that, I used the command above to install wine. This went thru with an error message but did complete. Software manager still says in GUI that ictl and wine are not installed, although having found the Gnome rpm manager, this says they are installed. I can use wine however, only tried it on notepad...but thats another thread. Is there any explanation to this diff in package managers ???
Re: [expert] Multiple network cards in a Mandrake firewall/switch combination
civileme wrote: > On Tuesday 10 July 2001 04:47, Darcy Brodie wrote: > > Hello > > I hope that this can be done. I currently have a LM7.2 box as a > > firewall for our internet access. Cable modem from ISP is going to > > eth0. eth1 (100baseT) is going to the internal network. What I need to > > do, is add a 3rd network card to allow me to also have a 10baseT network > > within the local netwok. Can this be done with Linux? Have not been > > able to find any information in the how-to's on this configuration. > > I also, if need be, have access to a second Linux file server, that > > I could add additional network cards into (it currently only has 1 card > > in it) > > I am currently using class C IP 's in the 192.168.1.X range, but > > this is flexible if required. > > > > Thanks > > > > Darcy > > Just add the card and setup adaptor. If you are making this a different > network and want the two to talk, you will need to setup a route and make > sure your internet masquerading rules apply only to forwards pointed at the > internet interface. Since the first instruction in many masquerading setups > is > > ipchains -P forward DENY > > you will need to write a series of rules in terms of -i ethx -o ethy to cover > all possible combos. Of course if you set up netmasks so they are > effectively on the same network, then the route does not need to be added, > but you still need the rules for forwarding. > > Another approach, using your other box, is to make it a masquerading gayeway > from the 10baseT net to the 192.168 net, and use some other schem for the > others like 172.16.x.y This permits both local net and internet access and > keeps the networks separated without a lot of rules complexity. >internet >_| >| Gateway | >|Current | >| Local| >|_| > | > _|___ > || > |_ __| > | | | | | | Other box | > (current local net) | Interface to | > |other | > |__| >| > __| > | || | >(new local net) > > In the ASCIIgram above, the boxes shown both use masquerading and the one > handling the 10MHz net is 100MHz on the main net, something like a data > compression switch. It can also be peered with the other local net computers. > > Finally, how about just using one port off a switch to a switch for the > 10BaseT machines? If you do not need a separate network, it will slow things > only at choke points like your internet gateway/file server. > > Civileme Thanks. I know that a switch would be the easiest way to get this to work, however, I have a tight (almost non-existant) budget to work with. I will try this probably Tues evening Darcy
Re: [expert] Any mutt users?
So sprach Wolfgang Bornath am Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 09:13:02PM +0200: > The point was to poll *without* having to do something (automagically). Setup a cron job Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.iso-top.de iso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 7 hours 20 minutes
Re: [expert] Lack of standards
On 2001.07.09 17:02 M. Osten wrote: >The whole Linux replacing Windows on the desktop is > stupid...who cares. I use Linux because it works, I like using it. The whole point of making Linux work on the desktop is enabling *any* user to do the daily tasks with more ease and fewer clicks/text-edits !. Hacker *or* stupid ass newbie !! I sat in on a Gnome Demonstration on Linuxtag in Germany and the Speaker started demonstrating Nautilus. Well what he wanted to do was show the html capabilities of Nautilus. His sidekick screamed that there was no internet available in the congressroom, and the speaker abandonned the html demo. What any self-respecting desktop developer/designer *should* have demonstrated was the ability to quickly find a local html file with Nautilus or an integrated desktop tool !! *We* know that FIND is pretty powerfull, but who wants the hassle of getting an xterm out , typing / remembering the command, copy-pasting the url in Nautilus etc ?? And was there any moment better suited to have such an option in the middle of a highly crowded lecture ? Gimme a dialog , let me enter the *.html and double klick on the suitable html file !! That's what a useable desktop standard is al about. Windows has it, Apple has it, so why shouldnt Linux have it ??
[expert] Cannot do ftpd, webmin, linuxconf-web
I don't get it. I have wu-ftpd installed (2.6.1), I have the latest webmin and linux-conf and all installed. I can start webmin but every time I try to connect to https://localhost:1 I instantly get a message that I cannot connect to localhost. I checked my hosts.deny and my local address is not in it. I even added it to hosts.allow for good measure. Nontheless, webmin starts but I cannot connect to myself for webmin. There is no entry related to webmin in /var/log/messages. I cannot start wu.ftpd. I have it installed but whenever I try to start it, I get an error message about it being an unrecognized service. If I look at /var/log/messages, I see: Jul 9 19:45:01 localhost ftpd[4980]: getpeername (wu.ftpd): Socket operation on non-socket What exactly does this mean? How do I fix it to actually run? Finally, I try to run linuxconf-web and get "unrecognized service" messages whenever I try to start it (it is installed). Anyone? Please?
Re: [expert] Any mutt users?
* Stardate: 2001-07-09 21:11 * Incoming subspace signal from "Wolfgang Bornath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" : > On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 16:16 +0200, Maxim Heijndijk wrote: > > What mutt version do you have ? It gives an error with my version (1.2.5-i). > User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i > (Version included in Linux-Mandrake 8.0) > wobo I tried that version also, but the file browser command 'c' '?' didn't work. Does it work on your system ? I now have mutt from mdk 7.2 installed on a 8.0 system. -- Best regards, M@X. * Climate Control Psychedelic Soundscapes - http://go.to/cchq/ * Linux Shell Scripts & RPM Software Packages - http://go.to/conmen/
Re: [expert] Seagate 20.4 Gig HD for $74 -- Good deal?
Benjamin Sher wrote: > > Dear friends: > > I am about to buy a 20.4 gig hardrive for my AMD K6-2 400 Mhz and LM > 8.0. I would appreciate your professional advise. I am considering > buying it from TigerDirect. The Seagate 20.4 HD has a "Seek time" of > 8.9, a transfer rate of 100MB/s an rpm of 5400, a buffer of 512 and 3 The Ultra ATA/100 @ 5400 RPM will not give you much improvement with your present motherboard and onboard ide controller. You might want to look at a drive with 7200 RPM which would give some speed boost. IBM, or Maxtor; I've had good success with these. LM 8.0 will have no problem handling a 20.4 Gig drive assuming that your motherboard and BIOS supports drives of this size. A 20 Gig 7200 RPM drive goes for about $79-89 here in San Diego, but then we have an extremely competitive market. > years warranty for $74. I am not concerned about whether it's the state > of the art. My AMD K6-2 is already an antique. But I am concerned about > reliability and performance. And, most of all, I would like to know > whether LM 8.0 can handle a 20.4 Gig hard drive in the first place. > > I would appreciate your opinions. > > Thanks so much. > > Benjamin > > -- > Sher's Russian Web > http://www.websher.net > Benjamin and Anna Sher > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Larry -- Sword'sEdge VoiceMail/Fax: (858) 860-6406 x1587
Re: [expert] Show status of adsl connect
Gregor Maier wrote:
> > Got adsl yesterday and managed the setup. though not using draknet. I
> > tried draknet first but it did not work. Then I ran adsl-setup and added
> > a defaultroute in adsl-start. Now it works like a charm.
> > Problem is, 1&1 (my provider) cuts the link after 15 minutes
> > of inactivity and after 14 hours of continous running.
> >
> > 1. I put up a cronjob which sends 1 ping tom my own domain every 14
> > minutes.
> >
> in addition to this job you could also run this script as cronjob which will
> check if the connection (ppp0 interface) is still up. if not it will reconnect
> and it will also write to a logfile that the connection was down
> I've written this script for a SuSE installation, so maybe you have to change
> some directories...
>
> #!/bin/bash
> #
> # This script checks if the specified (network-) interface is up by
> # examining ifconfigs output. If the connection is down a new
> # connection will be established
> #
>
> # check this interface
> IFACE=ppp0
> # the pid-file of the iface
> PIDFILE=/var/run/$IFACE.pid
> LOGFILE=/var/log/adsl-status.log
>
> # We must be in RL 3 or 5, otherwise the script does nothing
> if [ $(runlevel | awk '{ print $2 }') -gt 2 ]
> then
> if ! /sbin/ifconfig | /usr/bin/grep --silent $IFACE
> then
> datestr=$(date +"%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S")
> echo $datestr Interface $IFACE is not up. Reconnecting. >> $LOGFILE
> /sbin/init.d/adsl stop >> $LOGFILE
> while [ -e $PIDFILE ]
> do
> sleep 1
> done
> sleep 2
> /sbin/init.d/adsl start >> $LOGFILE
> echo "---" >> $LOGFILE
> fi
> fi
> # END OF FILE
>
> /sbin/init.d/adsl is the script that does the work for connecting/unconnecting.
> On a normal linux installation (everything but SuSE) the directory is
> /etc/init.d
>
> since my ISP uses PPTP and not PPoE for the adsl connection I got some problems
> when the connection died. (pppd stays alife,). Therefor I shut down the
> connection with adsl stop (which will kill the pppd), wait until pppd has
> terminated and then i reconnect.
>
> Probalby you can just bring up your connection without the need to stop and
> then start the connection.
> So that you can do this:
>
> ...
> if ! /sbin/ifconfig | /usr/bin/grep --silent $IFACE
> then
> datestr=$(date +"%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S")
> echo $datestr Interface $IFACE is not up. Reconnecting. >> $LOGFILE
> COMMAND TO BRING CONNECTION UP
> echo "---" >> $LOGFILE
> fi
>
> --
> E-Mail: Gregor Maier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 09-Jul-2001
> Time: 13:00:48
> --
Would I be correct in thinking that this script could be modified to also be able
to monitor, and renew connection via a cable connection, by changing the IFACE to
eth0, adn the commands to stop the connection, adn restart to ifdown eth0 and ifup
eth0 ? I have had trouble lately with my isp dropping my connection at work, and
nobody can get any of their mail until I get in.
Darcy
