[expert] Re: Mail Delivery Status Notification

2001-11-16 Thread SoloCDM

Postmaster stated the following:
 
 DishnetDSL SENDER NOTIFICATION
 
 The following message:
 
 TO:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 DATE: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 07:00:50 -0700
 Subject: [expert] No Job Control
 
 has been stripped of all/certain attachments by DishnetDSL Mail server due to 
security reasons.
 
 DishnetDSL allows only the following attachments:
 
 1. .doc
 2. .txt
 3. .xls
 4. .ppt
 5. .pdf
 6. .zip
 
 Message contains attachments: message.footer
 
 DishnetDSL
 
   --
Name: Message.8144DEFANGED-eml
Message.8144DEFANGED-emlType: unspecified type (application/octet-stream)
Encoding: 7bit

The following flame is forthcoming, because it makes me irritated when
their is obvious proof showing the direction of the offender *or* the
innocent; that being opposite of those accused.

You need to get your facts straight before you start making
unsubstantiated and unfounded accusations.  The original message was
and only was posted on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. 
Where it goes from there is beyond my control and rightly so, unless
you feel obliged to filter everyone's email.

If you look at the To:, it has a direct address to [EMAIL PROTECTED],
which would indicate that I sent it directly to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  How
can that be if the Subject: shows [expert] as the mailing list
that it pasted through, and I never sent any message with the subject
No Job Control directly to [EMAIL PROTECTED] byway of the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list?

Also, eml is a common extension.  Any AntiVirus scanner would have
flagged that message, even on our network's server.  And, I have no
idea who [EMAIL PROTECTED] is?  The address is not found anywhere on our
network.

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Re: [expert] Arrrgh - Telnet Problems (Authentication?)

2001-11-16 Thread Michael Osten

 
 Also, the ssh client for windbloze is $2000, telnet is free.
 So, if your company, who should know better is still kissing Bill's ass,
that 
 is the way to get to the Linux box from thier woofully under utilized
(over 
 burdened) system.

Free:
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/
http://pgpdist.mit.edu/FiSSH/index.html
http://cs.mscd.edu/MSSH/index.html

You are more than welcome to send the authors of the above $2000 dollars
if you would like.  What was your other objection to useing ssh?





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RE: [expert] Re: Mail Delivery Status Notification

2001-11-16 Thread Dennis Myhand

I got one of these things yesterday.  If you look at what is causing the
message to be flagged, it is the footer with the Mandrake ad in it.  Looks
to me like there are TWO parties at fault.  The server admin, and whoever
thought preaching to the choir did any good.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 4:15 AM
To: Postmaster
Cc: Linux-Mandrake Expert (Request)
Subject: [expert] Re: Mail Delivery Status Notification


Postmaster stated the following:

 DishnetDSL SENDER NOTIFICATION

 The following message:

 TO:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 DATE: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 07:00:50 -0700
 Subject: [expert] No Job Control

 has been stripped of all/certain attachments by DishnetDSL Mail server due
to security reasons.

 DishnetDSL allows only the following attachments:

 1. .doc
 2. .txt
 3. .xls
 4. .ppt
 5. .pdf
 6. .zip

 Message contains attachments: message.footer

 DishnetDSL

   --
Name: Message.8144DEFANGED-eml
Message.8144DEFANGED-emlType: unspecified type
(application/octet-stream)
Encoding: 7bit

The following flame is forthcoming, because it makes me irritated when
their is obvious proof showing the direction of the offender *or* the
innocent; that being opposite of those accused.

You need to get your facts straight before you start making
unsubstantiated and unfounded accusations.  The original message was
and only was posted on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list.
Where it goes from there is beyond my control and rightly so, unless
you feel obliged to filter everyone's email.

If you look at the To:, it has a direct address to [EMAIL PROTECTED],
which would indicate that I sent it directly to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  How
can that be if the Subject: shows [expert] as the mailing list
that it pasted through, and I never sent any message with the subject
No Job Control directly to [EMAIL PROTECTED] byway of the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list?

Also, eml is a common extension.  Any AntiVirus scanner would have
flagged that message, even on our network's server.  And, I have no
idea who [EMAIL PROTECTED] is?  The address is not found anywhere on our
network.

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[expert] Licq and the new ICQ protocol

2001-11-16 Thread Tom Eastman

Ever since the new ICQ version came out with its new protocol licq has
gone totally unreliable and flaky.

Does anyone know of an ICQ clone that is compatible with the new protocol?





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RE: [expert] Re: Mail Delivery Status Notification

2001-11-16 Thread Bill Kenworthy

I think a number of email scanners object to the method Mandrake use to
attach their message.  You can see by the bottom of this that Anomy does
so for me, so did did the windoze based scanner system at one of my
employers.  Must give some people a fright tho when they see a virus
warning message for Mandrake emails.  One day I will get fed up enuugh
with it to write a script and remove it, or maybe Mandrake will see that
its bad publicity to modify emails this way and attach their message as
a signature or similar, because as it is (using evolution), I dont get
to see the message, just a BIG warning about it!!!  It also stuffs up
email clients as EVERY Mandrake message shows as having an attachment,
so I cant just scan the mailbox looking for attachments.

BillK

On Fri, 2001-11-16 at 20:22, Dennis Myhand wrote:
 I got one of these things yesterday.  If you look at what is causing the
 message to be flagged, it is the footer with the Mandrake ad in it.  Looks
 to me like there are TWO parties at fault.  The server admin, and whoever
 thought preaching to the choir did any good.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 4:15 AM
 To: Postmaster
 Cc: Linux-Mandrake Expert (Request)
 Subject: [expert] Re: Mail Delivery Status Notification
 
 
 Postmaster stated the following:
 
  DishnetDSL SENDER NOTIFICATION
 
  The following message:
 
  TO:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  DATE: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 07:00:50 -0700
  Subject: [expert] No Job Control
 
  has been stripped of all/certain attachments by DishnetDSL Mail server due
 to security reasons.
 
  DishnetDSL allows only the following attachments:
 
  1. .doc
  2. .txt
  3. .xls
  4. .ppt
  5. .pdf
  6. .zip
 
  Message contains attachments: message.footer
 
  DishnetDSL
 
--
 Name: Message.8144DEFANGED-eml
 Message.8144DEFANGED-emlType: unspecified type
 (application/octet-stream)
 Encoding: 7bit
 
 The following flame is forthcoming, because it makes me irritated when
 their is obvious proof showing the direction of the offender *or* the
 innocent; that being opposite of those accused.
 
 You need to get your facts straight before you start making
 unsubstantiated and unfounded accusations.  The original message was
 and only was posted on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list.
 Where it goes from there is beyond my control and rightly so, unless
 you feel obliged to filter everyone's email.
 
 If you look at the To:, it has a direct address to [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 which would indicate that I sent it directly to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  How
 can that be if the Subject: shows [expert] as the mailing list
 that it pasted through, and I never sent any message with the subject
 No Job Control directly to [EMAIL PROTECTED] byway of the
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list?
 
 Also, eml is a common extension.  Any AntiVirus scanner would have
 flagged that message, even on our network's server.  And, I have no
 idea who [EMAIL PROTECTED] is?  The address is not found anywhere on our
 network.
 
 --
 Note: When you reply to this message, please include the mailing
   list/newsgroup address and my email address in To:.
 
 *
 Signed,
 SoloCDM
 
 
 
 
 

 This message has been 'sanitized'.  This means that potentially
 dangerous content has been rewritten or removed.  The following
 log describes which actions were taken.
 
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   Part (pos=2742):
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   Match (rule=2):
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   Part (pos=5451):
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 Enforced policy: defang
 
   Replaced mime type with: application/DEFANGED-664
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Re: [expert] Home directory permissions.

2001-11-16 Thread Randy Kramer

Oops, maybe I'm not as sure as I thought -- I did have to add some
aliases and scriptaliases to httpd.conf (which I did sort of blindly
(without understanding)) -- it looks like those did point to directories
below /home/httpd, so I probably did move the TWiki content to
/home/httpd.

Sorry for the misdirection!

Randy Kramer

Randy Kramer wrote:
 Quintin Holmberg wrote:
  Yeah ... they moved it on you ... look in /var/www/html
 
 Quintin,
 
 Interesting, you appear to be right!  Actually, I'm sure you are right,
 it's just that I am running a TWiki using the Apache server, and all the
 content for the TWiki is stored under /home/httpd.  Must be a soft link
 defined somewhere, or an alias in the httpd.conf file, but I'm quite
 certain neither I nor TWiki put it there.
 
 Someday I'll probably dig deep enough to know for sure.
 
 Thanks!
 Randy Kramer



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Re: [expert] LM 8.1 Creative PCI 128 Card

2001-11-16 Thread Pierre Fortin

Kelley Terry wrote:
 
 I have a problem with 8.1 and an ensoniq 1370 sound card.  It is detected
 properly and the driver loaded but no sound?  I tried the link you
 mentioned but an error came back saying that /dev/dsp already exists.  It
 sure would be nice to get it working since it's on a friend's machine that
 I just installed 8.1 on.

If the link was already there, then it should be fine.  Is the sound source
muted on the mixer?  i.e., to play most sounds, you need PCM enabled and its
volume up also.

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Re: [expert] Licq and the new ICQ protocol

2001-11-16 Thread Pierre Fortin

Tom Eastman wrote:
 
 Ever since the new ICQ version came out with its new protocol licq has
 gone totally unreliable and flaky.
 
 Does anyone know of an ICQ clone that is compatible with the new protocol?

Since you give virtually no details, all I'm aware of is a setting in the
Windoze versions which might have been intended to force people to upgrade...

From
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=254atid=100254func=detailaid=421782
 It's not a licq problem, it's a ICQ2000b problem. If you
 activate Do not allow Direct Connection with previous ICQ
 software versions then this error appears, because ICQ
 will not allow a Direct Connection.

HTH,
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[expert] cups again

2001-11-16 Thread Bill Kenworthy

It appears that Mandrake 8.1 doesnt support my canon bjc620 printer. 
The drivers I have tried either dont work, or print 4 lines of ascii on
a separate page as well as the page I want to print.  I cannot find any
of the Foomatic drivers used on Mandrake 7.2 in the software manager so
I am stuck at the moment.  I did see a page on Mandrake user.org a while
ago about installing a particular revision of foomatic from Mandrake 7.2
which might fix the problem, however I cannot find the page now.  Can
someone point me in the right direction?

BillK








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RE: [expert] Will Mandrake 8.1 run on this system?

2001-11-16 Thread Quintin Holmberg

The open source drivers may work for the GeForce 256 but they do not work
for the GeForce 2 Mobile that the Inspiron 8100 comes with even for just
running X windows.  Believe me, I have one.

That's not to say that there is no way to make the open source drivers work
but, in my research when troubleshooting that problem, I found no references
to making them work.  Everyone indicated that you had to get the nVidia
drivers.
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 7:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Will Mandrake 8.1 run on this system?


On Wednesday 14 November 2001 10:35 pm, you wrote:
 What do you know ... that's my laptop (except for the UXGA screen).  I run
 LM8.1 without any problems.

 The only catch will be changing over to the nVidia drivers.  He will have
 to go to nVidia's Linux download site, get the drivers and configure them
 post install.  There are pretty good instructions on how to do this at
 mandrakeuser.org as well as a PDF file on nVidia's site that outlines all
 the various optional configuration parameters available.


He will only need Nvidia drivers if the machine is to be used for hardware
accelerated games. I've just installed 8.1 using the generic opensource
Nvidia drivers. Hardware is 17 crt monitor @ 1152x864 ?? with GeForce 256
64Mb SDR Ram For games I use Windoze coz linux is still lightyears behind in
this area, Hopefully this will change in the future.

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Re: [expert] cups again

2001-11-16 Thread Nick Thompson

www.linuxprinting.org is always a good place to look. This link should 
take directly to the a cupsomatic PPD file for the bjc620:

http://www.linuxprinting.org/cups-o-matic.cgi?driver=bjc600printer=62080.submit=Generate+CUPS+PPD

You must also install the cupsomatic program also available from 
linuxprinting.

Nick

Bill Kenworthy wrote:

It appears that Mandrake 8.1 doesnt support my canon bjc620 printer. 
The drivers I have tried either dont work, or print 4 lines of ascii on
a separate page as well as the page I want to print.  I cannot find any
of the Foomatic drivers used on Mandrake 7.2 in the software manager so
I am stuck at the moment.  I did see a page on Mandrake user.org a while
ago about installing a particular revision of foomatic from Mandrake 7.2
which might fix the problem, however I cannot find the page now.  Can
someone point me in the right direction?

BillK










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[expert] AbiWord hoses KDE desktop

2001-11-16 Thread Steve Browne

On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 08:09:59 +0100, you wrote:

I've tried installing the latest Mandrake cooker RPM of AbiWord (the
one requiring libpng3). It installs correctly, but wipes out the links
to many of the KDE programs on my desktop. For instance, I can no
longer lnk to KOffice.

Why should this happen? Installing one program SHOULDN'T interefere
with another program.

Thank you,
Steve
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Re: [expert] cups again

2001-11-16 Thread Andre Dubuc

On Friday 16 November 2001 09:28, you wrote:
 www.linuxprinting.org is always a good place to look. This link should
 take directly to the a cupsomatic PPD file for the bjc620:

 http://www.linuxprinting.org/cups-o-matic.cgi?driver=bjc600printer=62080;.
submit=Generate+CUPS+PPD

 You must also install the cupsomatic program also available from
 linuxprinting.

 Nick

 Bill Kenworthy wrote:
 It appears that Mandrake 8.1 doesnt support my canon bjc620 printer.
 The drivers I have tried either dont work, or print 4 lines of ascii on
 a separate page as well as the page I want to print.  I cannot find any
 of the Foomatic drivers used on Mandrake 7.2 in the software manager so
 I am stuck at the moment.  I did see a page on Mandrake user.org a while
 ago about installing a particular revision of foomatic from Mandrake 7.2
 which might fix the problem, however I cannot find the page now.  Can
 someone point me in the right direction?
 
 BillK
 

Sorry to butt into this thread, but I had problems with the output quality 
from my Canon S450 using cups - foomatic, et al. 

I tried Turboprint and the quality is simply amazing. Perhaps you might try 
their free driver - your printer is supported. To the best of my 
recollection, it uses the cups driver interface, among others. You might 
luck-in and get your printer to work.

URL: http://www.turboprint.de/printers.html

Hope this helps!
Regards,
Andre 

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Re: [expert] Licq and the new ICQ protocol

2001-11-16 Thread Onur Kucuk


 It's not a licq problem, it's a ICQ2000b problem. If you
 activate Do not allow Direct Connection with previous ICQ
 software versions then this error appears, because ICQ
 will not allow a Direct Connection.

 Even that is deactivated, the problem may still occur. It is a
 protocol problem I guess.

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Re: [expert] Licq and the new ICQ protocol

2001-11-16 Thread Roger Sherman

On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, Tom Eastman wrote:

 Ever since the new ICQ version came out with its new protocol licq has
 gone totally unreliable and flaky.

 Does anyone know of an ICQ clone that is compatible with the new protocol?

There isn't one - yet. But I have a friend who works on the Gnome ICQ
development team (whatever they call themselves), and he says they are
pretty close to coming up with something, and that a patch will be
available for Licq soon after that...he didn't give any time frame, but he
sounded optimistic.








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Re: [expert] ide-scsi question

2001-11-16 Thread Ricardo Castanho de O. Freitas

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I added a cdrw to my system.  I added hdc=ide-scsi to lilo.conf, ran
lilo and added the alias scsi_adapter ide-scsi to modules.conf.
Now what.  cdrecord-scanbus does not see it so I can burn to it yet.
Darren

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Re: [expert] LM 8.1 Creative PCI 128 Card

2001-11-16 Thread Kelley Terry

On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 08:18:15 -0500
Pierre Fortin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kelley Terry wrote:
  
  I have a problem with 8.1 and an ensoniq 1370 sound card.  It is
 detected
  properly and the driver loaded but no sound?  I tried the link you
  mentioned but an error came back saying that /dev/dsp already exists. 
 It
  sure would be nice to get it working since it's on a friend's machine
 that
  I just installed 8.1 on.
 
 If the link was already there, then it should be fine.  Is the sound
 source
 muted on the mixer?  i.e., to play most sounds, you need PCM enabled and
 its
 volume up also.
 
 Pierre
 
Kmix behaves wierd.  When I opened it up all the volumes were set to zero
and the devices not enabled.  The first three or four from the left
(volume, pcm, speaker/ perhaps line also) could not be enabled or the
volume turned up.  As soon as I enabled them or turned the volume up they
reverted back to their zero - unenabled state.  The other settings on the
mixer worked normal however but without the main volume control working
obviously nothing will come out.

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[expert] ICQ

2001-11-16 Thread Roger Sherman

To the guy who was wondering about ICQ clones, this is something that was
forwarded to me from a friend whos involved in the updating process...


peace,

Rog

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 11:57:27 -0500
Subject: Fwd: Re: Development plan (was Re: [gnomeicu-support] Gnome 2 Port)

This is what was sent to the GnomeICU mailing list. I've cut unimportant
stuff out.

- Forwarded message from David  NetHunter Tabachnikov [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

The reason is, that the corrent GTK+ code has started even before GNOME, and
it's very messed up, and mixed, (because many things were implemented
differently, that were later deprecated by GNOME, etc), so me and Jeremy
agreed a while ago, that the only solution is to rewrite the GUI code. And,
we'll have to rewrite the settings dialog anyway, since we want a
command-center-style prefs dialog. Since a while ago (before I had CVS
access) I ported part of GnomeICU to libglade, and it made the application
much more responsive, and compact, and the code much nicer and easier to
read, I guessed that would be the best choice for rewritting the GUI. But I
guess I could agree it's more of a post-1.0 thing. GNet - there aren't many
things in common between ICQv5 and earlier, and ICQv7. They are 2 totally
different protocols. So to support it, the whole networking layer has to be
rewritten. After seeing a number of other GNet based applications, I was
rather impressed by this little library, and it seems like it can speed
development by far, and make the networking layer more robust. Of course, I
could be wrong on all of this.

 For the V7 port, I was gonna try to start working on it this weekend. As I
 haven't seen David's work, actually, I was gonna start writing it from the
 specs and the source of other free clients. We can probably get a good
 head start by taking some code from AIM for the base stuff (I dont know
 how much we can copy directly, havent looked at it yet...).


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RE: [expert] kernel rpms

2001-11-16 Thread skidley

On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Franki wrote:

 Last I heard, you shouldn't upgrade the kernel at all,

 install the kernel with -i

 upgrade the headers with -U

 Thats what I do, and it always seems to install without problems for me.


 rgds

 Frank

Thanks that worked but I am not so sure I like having a kernel without the
source but it works fine. Maybe I'll download the source rpm.

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Re: [expert] Licq and the new ICQ protocol

2001-11-16 Thread Mark Weaver

Roger,

That sounds great! I'm really having ICQ withdrawl these last few weeks. I
feel as though Ive been cut off from the rest of the world. Proprietary
tree-huggers! (AOL)

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On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Roger Sherman wrote:

 On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, Tom Eastman wrote:

  Ever since the new ICQ version came out with its new protocol licq has
  gone totally unreliable and flaky.
 
  Does anyone know of an ICQ clone that is compatible with the new protocol?

 There isn't one - yet. But I have a friend who works on the Gnome ICQ
 development team (whatever they call themselves), and he says they are
 pretty close to coming up with something, and that a patch will be
 available for Licq soon after that...he didn't give any time frame, but he
 sounded optimistic.


 
 
 
 


 peace,

 Rog








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Re: [expert] ide-scsi question

2001-11-16 Thread Hoyt Duff

On Thursday 15 November 2001 06:20 pm, you wrote:


 If you find that you need append=quiet back into lilo.conf, I think
 only white space is needed.


What does quiet do?

It it still useful to use

ide0=0x1f0

and

floppy=daring

with Mandrake (both are suppose to force the use of faster ide and floppy 
drivers respectively).

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Re: [expert] AbiWord hoses KDE desktop

2001-11-16 Thread Mark D'voo

uninstall libpng3 with the --nodeps option, then link ln -s 
/usr/lib/libpng2.so libpng3.so, that'll get it working even though this is a 
shitty fix

mark


On Friday 16 November 2001 20:29, you wrote:
 On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 08:09:59 +0100, you wrote:

 I've tried installing the latest Mandrake cooker RPM of AbiWord (the
 one requiring libpng3). It installs correctly, but wipes out the links
 to many of the KDE programs on my desktop. For instance, I can no
 longer lnk to KOffice.

 Why should this happen? Installing one program SHOULDN'T interefere
 with another program.

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[expert] problems with filsesystem in LM8.1

2001-11-16 Thread Jeferson Lopes Zacco

  That's me again. Some days after I installed LM8.1 I started 
experiencing sme problems with my filesystem. Let me explain.

 Basically I cannot access some directories/files... it happens 
mostly with Eterm configuration files, and since I installed Eterm 
0-9.1, it might have something to do with it... though I can't see how.

 I would use tune2fs to force a check in the next reboot, and I 
would get the following :


Nov 13 11:44:46 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5 was not cleanly unmounted, check 
forced.
Nov 13 11:44:48 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5:
Nov 13 11:44:48 pinguim fsck: Inode 7603, i_blocks is 2096, should be 
2056. FIXED.
Nov 13 11:44:51 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5:
Nov 13 11:44:51 pinguim fsck: Inode 39769, i_blocks is 64, should be 8. 
FIXED.
Nov 13 11:44:54 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5:
Nov 13 11:44:54 pinguim fsck: Deleted inode 71974 has zero dtime. FIXED.
Nov 13 11:45:27 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5: Duplicate or bad block in use!
Nov 13 11:45:27 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5: Duplicate blocks found... 
invoking duplicate block passes.
Nov 13 11:45:27 pinguim fsck: Pass 1B: Rescan for duplicate/bad blocks
Nov 13 11:45:27 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5:
Nov 13 11:45:27 pinguim fsck: Duplicate/bad block(s) in inode 
263738:/dev/hdc5: 545471/dev/hdc5:
Nov 13 11:45:27 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5:
Nov 13 11:45:27 pinguim fsck: Pass 1C: Scan directories for inodes with 
dup blocks.
Nov 13 11:46:42 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5:
Nov 13 11:46:42 pinguim fsck: Pass 1D: Reconciling duplicate blocks
Nov 13 11:46:42 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5:
Nov 13 11:46:43 pinguim fsck: (There are 1 inodes containing 
duplicate/bad blocks.)
Nov 13 11:46:43 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5: File 
/usr/src/linux-2.4.8/drivers/net/3c515.c (inode #263738, mod time Tue 
Jul 17 22:53:55 2001)
Nov 13 11:46:43 pinguim fsck: has 1 duplicate block(s), shared with 0 
file(s):
Nov 13 11:46:43 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5: Duplicated blocks already 
reassigned or cloned.
Nov 13 11:46:43 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5:
Nov 13 11:46:43 pinguim fsck: /lost+found not found. CREATED.
Nov 13 11:46:43 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5: 146454/305824 files (0.2% 
non-contiguous), 517775/610462 blocks
Nov 13 14:27:06 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5: clean, 147153/305824 files, 
519491/610462 blocks

**
Nov 14 17:38:32 pinguim fsck: was not cleanly unmounted, check forced.
Nov 14 17:38:37 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5:
Nov 14 17:38:37 pinguim fsck: Inode 39769, i_blocks is 64, should be 8. 
FIXED.
Nov 14 17:39:11 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5: Duplicate or bad block in use!
Nov 14 17:39:11 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5: Duplicate blocks found... 
invoking duplicate block passes.
Nov 14 17:39:11 pinguim fsck: Pass 1B: Rescan for duplicate/bad blocks
Nov 14 17:39:12 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5: Duplicate/bad block(s) in inode 
263738:/dev/hdc5: 545471/dev/hdc5:
Nov 14 17:39:12 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5:
Nov 14 17:39:12 pinguim fsck: Pass 1C: Scan directories for inodes with 
dup blocks.
Nov 14 17:39:57 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5: Pass 1D: Reconciling duplicate 
blocks
Nov 14 17:39:59 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5: (There are 1 inodes containing 
duplicate/bad blocks.)
Nov 14 17:39:59 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5: File 
/usr/src/linux-2.4.8/drivers/net/3c515.c (inode #263738, mod time Tue 
Jul 17 22:53:55 2001)
Nov 14 17:39:59 pinguim fsck: has 1 duplicate block(s), shared with 0 
file(s):
Nov 14 17:39:59 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5: Duplicated blocks already 
reassigned or cloned.
Nov 14 17:40:00 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5: 147873/305824 files (0.2% 
non-contiguous), 523176/610462 blocks


Note that I got the same error twice, refering to inode 263738... in 
fact it happened more than two times. After the fsck, everything would 
ran fine. I suspect that my fs wasn't being unmounted the right way, 
since it looked like it would shutdown too quickly before these things 
ocurred.

Well- I was already interested in switching to ext3, and I thought it 
would help me to solve that problem. I converted the fs to ext3, and 
added a ramdisk to load the ext3 module at boot... which brings in 
another oddity, I didnt manage to re-compile the modules of Mandrake 
kernel. But I guess I should write a third e-mail to deal with that...

But the problem also happened with ext3. when I forced the check, 
everything would work fine, but the check gave me no error msgs.

It might be some hardware problem; I have an A7V133 Asus board, so it 
might be a symptom of one the infamous VIA bugs. But these things never 
happened with LM8.0. I also expected fsck to correct the problem the 
first time it appeared...

Any help on how to correct this will be greatly apprecciated...
Please should someone reply to this also include a cc to my e-mail, as 
well as the list's.

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[expert] Some oddities with the kernel-source rpm

2001-11-16 Thread Jeferson Lopes Zacco

  Hi all. I've found at least one bug and some weird things going on in 
LM 8.1 related to the kernel-source package.

 Ok, all this popped out when I was discussing how to install a 
lucent win(lin?)modem in LM 8.1. I don't own such a modem myself, but I 
downloaded the driver source and noticed that it compiled finely in my 
system. After some lengthy discussions, it turned out that the drivers 
wouldn't compile on other sys because they were lacking the 
kernel-sources. The weird thing is that my friend, which reported the 
error, was SURE he marked the development option at install, since he 
is a C++ programmer (and he reinstalled it a couple of times... a dozen 
he actually claims [:-)] ). And yet Mandrake didn't istall it.

 After some more heated discussion, it turns out that when the 
recommended installation is used, the kernel-source package is NOT 
installed. It installs fine when one uses the expert install. I don't 
know if that is a bug or a planned feature; in the latter case, I don't 
think it should be, since the sources are obviously needed if you plan 
to do any development, and then even non-programmers newbies will need 
it if they have the so-commom softmodems.

 Now for the bug... I got mostly upset with my friend because he 
claimed that SoftwareManager (rpmdrake) wouldn't list the kernel-source 
rpm and he had to install it using rpm in the console (and filling in 
all dependencies manually). I made he double-check his settings... then, 
when I myself uninstalled the kernel-source and looked for it again- it 
wasn't there. The kernel-source rpm IS NOT listed as an installable 
package. You may make the experience yourselves. While it may not be 
difficult to install it via console- a newbie will most certainly be 
confused. I hope that this bug in rpmdrake will be patched.

 Well that's it for this mail... if someone reply to this, please 
include a cc to my email as well as the list's.


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Re: [expert] AbiWord hoses KDE desktop

2001-11-16 Thread Steve Browne

On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 20:01:33 +0600, you wrote:

uninstall libpng3 with the --nodeps option, then link ln -s 
/usr/lib/libpng2.so libpng3.so, that'll get it working even though this is a 
shitty fix

mark

So you are saying that libpng3 messes up the KDE desktop? That doesn't
seem to be right, because when I removed AbiWord (rpm -e abiword) and
relogged in, the KDE desktop was back to normal even though I have
left libpng3 installed. The fault is with AbiWord OR its interaction
with libpng3. BTW, AbiWord was working fine with libpng3.  Further
thoughts? Thanks.

Steve

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Re: [expert] SB Live Synth?

2001-11-16 Thread Mike Leone

 Yeah, unfortunately I stumbled upon the Midi configuration issue while
 poking around in the newer ALSA and Kernel sources.

 I noticed that there is full support for the Midi Synth in the later
 kernels, but that Mandrake did not seem to configure things properly by
 default.

 After much trial and error I first saw the midi devices appear in KDE,
 then I tried to start cleanly and get back to where I saw them again.
 This led to the terse doc I put up.

 Anyway my /etc/modules.conf file looks like this

Thanks; I'll dig into some more later tonight.  Make sure I have all these
alias, etc.

Appreciate the help, Jose.

 /etc/rc.d/init.d/sound uses the auxmix settings in /etc/.auxmixrc
 created by saving the AUXMIX mixer settings. You might want to also look
 at this file so you can spot where initialization is taking place...

 Also look at /etc/sysconfig/alsa and /etc/sysconfig/sound.






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Re: [expert] Licq and the new ICQ protocol - WORKAROUND!

2001-11-16 Thread jose orlando t. ribeiro


You don't need to feel cut off from the world!

In LICQ choose to send your messges trough the server. I only don't 
remember if it is a global choice or if you have to do this for each 
name in your ICQ list.

HTH

orlando

Mark Weaver wrote:

 Roger,
 
 That sounds great! I'm really having ICQ withdrawl these last few weeks. I
 feel as though Ive been cut off from the rest of the world. Proprietary
 tree-huggers! (AOL)
 
 
 
 
 
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[expert] PPTP client

2001-11-16 Thread WORLOK

Has anyone ever gotten the linux PPTP client to successfully connect to
an MS PPTP VPN server?

I've been trying for weeks and following any intructions I find out
there and nothing works.  It keeps dying on sending the LCP extensions.

Rgds,

Tom



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Re: [expert] apple network?

2001-11-16 Thread A V Flinsch

On Thursday 15 November 2001 20:43, you wrote:
 Hello all!
 I'm running a mandrake 8.1 server which hosts printer and file
 services for my windows 2000 machines via Samba; I would like to be
 able to set up the same stuff for my imac running mac os 9.1 ~ what do
 I need?  I want to use the same server that is already running Samba
 and I would just like to add whatever I need to that server.  Does that
 make sense?


You need to run netatalk, you can find Mandrake rpms at 
http://netatalk.sourceforge.net/

You can run on the same server that you are running Samba on (I do it 
that way)

As a side bonus, if you have a printer on a window machine, and it is 
shared via windows and it is set up to allow the linux machine to print 
to it, you can also see if from the Apples.


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Re: [expert] Cooker?

2001-11-16 Thread Tom Eastman

On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 09:32:41PM -0600, Timothy R.Butler wrote:
   I know I can do this via FTP, although it appears that Mandrake Package 
 Manager can connect to Cooker for me too. However, when I attempt this by 
 selecting a cooker mirror in the source selection, it chugs along downloading 
 something (the list of files?) for a bit, and then says that an error 
 occurred adding this source.
   This seems to happen on every cooker mirror I try. Any ideas?

I have this same issue, rpmdrake calls wget and downloads a 12 megabyte
file, which I assume is a package list of some sort, but as soon as it
finishes the download I get an error.  This has happened for every
mirror I've tried, it's starting to get frustrating.

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Re: [expert] Licq and the new ICQ protocol - WORKAROUND!

2001-11-16 Thread Tom Eastman

On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 06:59:37PM -0200, jose orlando t. ribeiro wrote:
 In LICQ choose to send your messges trough the server. I only don't 
 remember if it is a global choice or if you have to do this for each 
 name in your ICQ list.

Sadly this won't work, since the 12th (the release of ICQ 2001b) they've
in fact changed the *server* protocol.  Direct connections are the ONLY
way of actually getting messages to others.  But add to this the fact
that ICQ has now denied direct connections to older versions of ICQ
(including licq) by default (this can be turned off, though) and you
start to see the dillema.

Because so many of my friends live behind various firewalls and DSL
routers and such it means I have to resort to *email* or cringe!
actually *visiting* them now!!  lol

I just subscribed to all the Licq developement lists, in order to keep
track of whats going on with the developement, ICQ is hard to live
without!!! :-(



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Re[2]: [expert] Cooker?

2001-11-16 Thread Onur Kucuk


TE On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 09:32:41PM -0600, Timothy R.Butler wrote:
   I know I can do this via FTP, although it appears that Mandrake Package 
 Manager can connect to Cooker for me too. However, when I attempt this by 
 selecting a cooker mirror in the source selection, it chugs along downloading 
 something (the list of files?) for a bit, and then says that an error 
 occurred adding this source.
   This seems to happen on every cooker mirror I try. Any ideas?

TE I have this same issue, rpmdrake calls wget and downloads a 12 megabyte
TE file, which I assume is a package list of some sort, but as soon as it
TE finishes the download I get an error.  This has happened for every
TE mirror I've tried, it's starting to get frustrating.

TE Anyone have any ideas?

I manually downloaded rpmdrake from cooker and installed (Guess it
needed newer rpm also ) and my trouble got fixed ( guess ) . Worth a
try.

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Re: [expert] Licq and the new ICQ protocol - WORKAROUND!

2001-11-16 Thread Roger Sherman

On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, jose orlando t. ribeiro wrote:


 You don't need to feel cut off from the world!

 In LICQ choose to send your messges trough the server. I only don't
 remember if it is a global choice or if you have to do this for each
 name in your ICQ list.

I do that regularly, but still have problems. It's the server that's the
problem, not the client - or, rather, the servers have been configured to
not work with our clients.



 HTH

 orlando

 Mark Weaver wrote:

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  That sounds great! I'm really having ICQ withdrawl these last few weeks. I
  feel as though Ive been cut off from the rest of the world. Proprietary
  tree-huggers! (AOL)
 
 
 
  
 
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Re: [expert] Licq and the new ICQ protocol

2001-11-16 Thread Timothy R. Butler


 Ever since the new ICQ version came out with its new protocol licq has
 gone totally unreliable and flaky.

 Does anyone know of an ICQ clone that is compatible with the new
 protocol?

   Yes, give Gaim a try. Gaim has supported ICQ for a very long time, but now 
things are getting a bit more interesting - apparently AOL's new ICQ v7 
protocol is based on AIM's OSCAR protocol. So, when you setup Gaim, just 
select the OSCAR protocol (rather than ICQ), just like you would when 
setting up an AIM account.
   BTW, Gaim v.48 which was just released brings support for offline 
messaging on ICQ/OSCAR, so you may want to grab a copy of that.

   Best,
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Re: [expert] Cooker?

2001-11-16 Thread David ..


I had the same problem last week. So I posted the question and this is the 
reply I recieved. I did allow me to add cooker mirror sites. But it doesn't 
seem to go out and populate the list of applications with the updates.:

--
If the problem is that you are unable to add new sites to the list of
RPM sources, then you may need to upgrade rpmdrake to a newer version.
rpmdrake is the graphical frontend to urpmi, and it's the program that
is opened up when you click on Software Manager.

I'm assuming that you are running Mandrake 8.1 because this was a common
problem.  Installing rpmdrake-1.3-106mdk.i586.rpm from
http://www.rpmfind.net should fix this.  I haven't been able to upgrade
to any higher version of rpmdrake on my system, however, because of all
of the high level dependencies.  But 1.3-106 works great.

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Subject: Re: [expert] Cooker?
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 10:39:56 +1300

On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 09:32:41PM -0600, Timothy R.Butler wrote:
I know I can do this via FTP, although it appears that Mandrake 
Package
  Manager can connect to Cooker for me too. However, when I attempt this 
by
  selecting a cooker mirror in the source selection, it chugs along 
downloading
  something (the list of files?) for a bit, and then says that an error
  occurred adding this source.
This seems to happen on every cooker mirror I try. Any ideas?

I have this same issue, rpmdrake calls wget and downloads a 12 megabyte
file, which I assume is a package list of some sort, but as soon as it
finishes the download I get an error.  This has happened for every
mirror I've tried, it's starting to get frustrating.

Anyone have any ideas?


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Re: [expert] I wonder, nimda, will it end?

2001-11-16 Thread Mark Weaver

On Wed, 07 Nov 2001 02:08:23 -0600
J. Craig Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sergio Korlowsky wrote:
  
  On Wednesday 07 November 2001 12:43 am, you wrote:
   Hmm, just wondering if the nimda will ever die?
  
   Just curious.
  
  Probably it will, but another one will take its place!
  
  Be glad you don't use Winxx  ;-)
  
  sk
  
 HERE HERE! 
 
 Well said
 

rant-on
yes...as a matter of fact the bigger my httpd/access_log gets the more i hate MicrSoft 
and the lazy bugger sys-admins that allow non-patched servers and NT workstations/home 
boxes to run and polute the internet with yet more junk!
/rant-on

sorry...just couldn't help myself.


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Re: [expert] Arrrgh - Telnet Problems (Authentication?)

2001-11-16 Thread Michael Leone

Also, the ssh client for windbloze is $2000, telnet is free.

I know of at least 2 free ssh clients for Windows - puTTY and Terra
Term. Even the official SSH client doesn't cost $2000 (US), AFAIK. Who
told you that figure?


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[expert] Mandrake 8.1 and dictd

2001-11-16 Thread Bill Thompson

Hi,
 
I have Mandrake 8.1 installed and have the same problem with dictd
as I had with Mandrake 8.0. It works fine while I'm online but
refuses to work while offline. Below is my /etc/dict.conf, 
/etc/dictd.conf files and ifconfig lo.
 
Searches on the web show others have this problem. But to date, I've
not seen any fixes. Anyone have any thoughts about this?
 
ifconfig lo
---
[billt@darkside download]$ sudo /sbin/ifconfig lo
loLink encap:Local Loopback
   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
   RX packets:1892 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:1892 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
   RX bytes:222572 (217.3 Kb)  TX bytes:222572 (217.3 Kb)
 
/etc/dict.conf
--
server localhost
 
/etc/dictd.conf
---
access {allow localhost deny *}
database gazetteer {data /usr/share/dict/gazetteer.dict.dz
 index /usr/share/dict/gazetteer.index }
 database jargon {   data /usr/share/dict/jargon.dict.dz
 index /usr/share/dict/jargon.index }
 database foldoc {   data /usr/share/dict/foldoc.dict.dz
 index /usr/share/dict/foldoc.index }
 database elements { data /usr/share/dict/elements.dict.dz
 index /usr/share/dict/elements.index }
 database easton {   data /usr/share/dict/easton.dict.dz
 index /usr/share/dict/easton.index }
 database hitchcock {data /usr/share/dict/hitchcock.dict.dz
 index /usr/share/dict/hitchcock.index }
 database world95 {  data /usr/share/dict/world95.dict.dz
 index /usr/share/dict/world95.index }
 database web1913 {  data /usr/share/dict/web1913.dict.dz
 index /usr/share/dict/web1913.index }
 database wn {   data /usr/share/dict/wn.dict.dz
 index /usr/share/dict/wn.index }
 database devils {   data /usr/share/dict/devils.dict.dz
 index /usr/share/dict/devils.index }
 database cze-eng {  data /usr/share/dict/cze-eng.dict.dz
 index /usr/share/dict/cze-eng.index }
 database dan-eng {  data /usr/share/dict/dan-eng.dict.dz
 index /usr/share/dict/dan-eng.index }
 database deu-eng {  data /usr/share/dict/deu-eng.dict.dz
 index /usr/share/dict/deu-eng.index }
 database eng-deu {  data /usr/share/dict/eng-deu.dict.dz
 index /usr/share/dict/eng-deu.index }
 database eng-fra {  data /usr/share/dict/eng-fra.dict.dz
 index /usr/share/dict/eng-fra.index }
 database eng-hun {  data /usr/share/dict/eng-hun.dict.dz
 index /usr/share/dict/eng-hun.index }
 database eng-ita {  data /usr/share/dict/eng-ita.dict.dz
 index /usr/share/dict/eng-ita.index }
 database eng-lat {  data /usr/share/dict/eng-lat.dict.dz
 index /usr/share/dict/eng-lat.index }
 database eng-nld {  data /usr/share/dict/eng-nld.dict.dz
 index /usr/share/dict/eng-nld.index }
 database eng-por {  data /usr/share/dict/eng-por.dict.dz
 index /usr/share/dict/eng-por.index }
 database eng-swe {  data /usr/share/dict/eng-swe.dict.dz
 index /usr/share/dict/eng-swe.index }
 database eng-spa {  data /usr/share/dict/eng-spa.dict.dz
 index /usr/share/dict/eng-spa.index }
 database fra-eng {  data /usr/share/dict/fra-eng.dict.dz
 index /usr/share/dict/fra-eng.index }
 database hun-eng {  data /usr/share/dict/hun-eng.dict.dz
 index /usr/share/dict/hun-eng.index }
 database ita-eng {  data /usr/share/dict/ita-eng.dict.dz
 index /usr/share/dict/ita-eng.index }
 database lat-eng {  data /usr/share/dict/lat-eng.dict.dz
 index /usr/share/dict/lat-eng.index }
 database nld-eng {  data /usr/share/dict/nld-eng.dict.dz
 index /usr/share/dict/nld-eng.index }
 database por-eng {  data /usr/share/dict/por-eng.dict.dz
 index /usr/share/dict/por-eng.index }
 database spa-eng {  data /usr/share/dict/spa-eng.dict.dz
 index /usr/share/dict/spa-eng.index }
 database swe-eng {  data /usr/share/dict/swe-eng.dict.dz
 index /usr/share/dict/swe-eng.index }
 
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Re: [expert] problems with filsesystem in LM8.1

2001-11-16 Thread Asheesh Laroia

Run badblocks /dev/hdc5, or e2fsck with the -c option.  These check
for bad blocks.  If this block repeatedly causes problems, it might be a
bad sector on your hard disk.

-- Asheesh.

On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Jeferson Lopes Zacco wrote:

   That's me again. Some days after I installed LM8.1 I started
 experiencing sme problems with my filesystem. Let me explain.

  Basically I cannot access some directories/files... it happens
 mostly with Eterm configuration files, and since I installed Eterm
 0-9.1, it might have something to do with it... though I can't see how.

  I would use tune2fs to force a check in the next reboot, and I
 would get the following :

 
 Nov 13 11:44:46 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5 was not cleanly unmounted, check
 forced.
 Nov 13 11:44:48 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5:
 Nov 13 11:44:48 pinguim fsck: Inode 7603, i_blocks is 2096, should be
 2056. FIXED.
 Nov 13 11:44:51 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5:
 Nov 13 11:44:51 pinguim fsck: Inode 39769, i_blocks is 64, should be 8.
 FIXED.
 Nov 13 11:44:54 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5:
 Nov 13 11:44:54 pinguim fsck: Deleted inode 71974 has zero dtime. FIXED.
 Nov 13 11:45:27 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5: Duplicate or bad block in use!
 Nov 13 11:45:27 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5: Duplicate blocks found...
 invoking duplicate block passes.
 Nov 13 11:45:27 pinguim fsck: Pass 1B: Rescan for duplicate/bad blocks
 Nov 13 11:45:27 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5:
 Nov 13 11:45:27 pinguim fsck: Duplicate/bad block(s) in inode
 263738:/dev/hdc5: 545471/dev/hdc5:
 Nov 13 11:45:27 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5:
 Nov 13 11:45:27 pinguim fsck: Pass 1C: Scan directories for inodes with
 dup blocks.
 Nov 13 11:46:42 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5:
 Nov 13 11:46:42 pinguim fsck: Pass 1D: Reconciling duplicate blocks
 Nov 13 11:46:42 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5:
 Nov 13 11:46:43 pinguim fsck: (There are 1 inodes containing
 duplicate/bad blocks.)
 Nov 13 11:46:43 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5: File
 /usr/src/linux-2.4.8/drivers/net/3c515.c (inode #263738, mod time Tue
 Jul 17 22:53:55 2001)
 Nov 13 11:46:43 pinguim fsck: has 1 duplicate block(s), shared with 0
 file(s):
 Nov 13 11:46:43 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5: Duplicated blocks already
 reassigned or cloned.
 Nov 13 11:46:43 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5:
 Nov 13 11:46:43 pinguim fsck: /lost+found not found. CREATED.
 Nov 13 11:46:43 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5: 146454/305824 files (0.2%
 non-contiguous), 517775/610462 blocks
 Nov 13 14:27:06 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5: clean, 147153/305824 files,
 519491/610462 blocks

 **
 Nov 14 17:38:32 pinguim fsck: was not cleanly unmounted, check forced.
 Nov 14 17:38:37 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5:
 Nov 14 17:38:37 pinguim fsck: Inode 39769, i_blocks is 64, should be 8.
 FIXED.
 Nov 14 17:39:11 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5: Duplicate or bad block in use!
 Nov 14 17:39:11 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5: Duplicate blocks found...
 invoking duplicate block passes.
 Nov 14 17:39:11 pinguim fsck: Pass 1B: Rescan for duplicate/bad blocks
 Nov 14 17:39:12 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5: Duplicate/bad block(s) in inode
 263738:/dev/hdc5: 545471/dev/hdc5:
 Nov 14 17:39:12 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5:
 Nov 14 17:39:12 pinguim fsck: Pass 1C: Scan directories for inodes with
 dup blocks.
 Nov 14 17:39:57 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5: Pass 1D: Reconciling duplicate
 blocks
 Nov 14 17:39:59 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5: (There are 1 inodes containing
 duplicate/bad blocks.)
 Nov 14 17:39:59 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5: File
 /usr/src/linux-2.4.8/drivers/net/3c515.c (inode #263738, mod time Tue
 Jul 17 22:53:55 2001)
 Nov 14 17:39:59 pinguim fsck: has 1 duplicate block(s), shared with 0
 file(s):
 Nov 14 17:39:59 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5: Duplicated blocks already
 reassigned or cloned.
 Nov 14 17:40:00 pinguim fsck: /dev/hdc5: 147873/305824 files (0.2%
 non-contiguous), 523176/610462 blocks
 

 Note that I got the same error twice, refering to inode 263738... in
 fact it happened more than two times. After the fsck, everything would
 ran fine. I suspect that my fs wasn't being unmounted the right way,
 since it looked like it would shutdown too quickly before these things
 ocurred.

 Well- I was already interested in switching to ext3, and I thought it
 would help me to solve that problem. I converted the fs to ext3, and
 added a ramdisk to load the ext3 module at boot... which brings in
 another oddity, I didnt manage to re-compile the modules of Mandrake
 kernel. But I guess I should write a third e-mail to deal with that...

 But the problem also happened with ext3. when I forced the check,
 everything would work fine, but the check gave me no error msgs.

 It might be some hardware problem; I have an A7V133 Asus board, so it
 might be a symptom of one the infamous VIA bugs. But these things never
 happened with LM8.0. I also expected fsck to correct the problem the
 first time it appeared...

 Any help on how to correct this will be greatly apprecciated...
 Please should someone reply to this also 

Re: [expert] Arrrgh - Telnet Problems (Authentication?)

2001-11-16 Thread mike

On Friday 16 November 2001 07:01, Michael Osten wrote:
  Also, the ssh client for windbloze is $2000, telnet is free.
  So, if your company, who should know better is still kissing Bill's ass,

 that

  is the way to get to the Linux box from thier woofully under utilized

 (over

  burdened) system.

 Free:
 http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
 http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/
 http://pgpdist.mit.edu/FiSSH/index.html
 http://cs.mscd.edu/MSSH/index.html

 You are more than welcome to send the authors of the above $2000 dollars
 if you would like.  What was your other objection to useing ssh?


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None, I use ssh for Linux-Linux communication.  Thanks for the other 
suggestions.

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Re: [expert] Arrrgh - Telnet Problems (Authentication?)

2001-11-16 Thread mike

On Thursday 15 November 2001 19:20, Vincent Danen wrote:
 On Thu Nov 15, 2001 at 06:46:34PM -0500, mike wrote:
   Was the original question ever answered?  My university uses telnet
   behind a firewall as well (and through it).  They are not about to try
   to train everyone on the uses of ssh, nor are they going to install it,
   or have everyone download and install it onto windoze and Mac boxes and
   then train everyone - or handle all the questions as everyone tries to
   figure it out.
  
   In any case, I use ssh at home and haven't yet used the telnet-krb
   package. I assume that the krb means kerberos?  And that this indicates
   some level of security added to telnet-krb vis a vis kerberos
   authentication?
  
   praedor
 
  Also, the ssh client for windbloze is $2000, telnet is free.
  So, if your company, who should know better is still kissing Bill's ass,
  that is the way to get to the Linux box from thier woofully under
  utilized (over burdened) system.

 Eh?  putty is free.  What ssh client are you looking at?


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The one that comes up when I do a search on ssh.  On this same web page the 
Linux version is free.  Thanks for the suggestions.

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Re: [expert] Arrrgh - Telnet Problems (Authentication?)

2001-11-16 Thread mike

On Friday 16 November 2001 19:31, Michael Leone wrote:
 Also, the ssh client for windbloze is $2000, telnet is free.

 I know of at least 2 free ssh clients for Windows - puTTY and Terra
 Term. Even the official SSH client doesn't cost $2000 (US), AFAIK. Who
 told you that figure?


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After installing Mandrake 7.2 telnet left and ssh took it's place, no loss - 
ssh has ftp and it is somewhat more straightforward, so I searched for a 
Windows client, and found ssh for Linux for free - on the same page was a 
client for Windows 2000 which was outrageous, I thougt it was 2000 bucks, it 
at least had three zero (significant places) in the price.  I think I was 
trying to accomplish ftp, as I have another Linux client for emaergency log 
ins.

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Re: [expert] telnet

2001-11-16 Thread Vincent Danen

On Fri Nov 16, 2001 at 08:09:59AM +0100, kons Richard Bown wrote:

  Seriously, the telnet client has it's uses.. it's the telnet server
  that should be abolished.
  
  Those with restrictive firewalls really don't have an excuse... they
  can setup thier home ssh to listen to the telnet port and use ssh to
  connect through the telnet port to their home system.  Same as it you
  were using telnet.  You just need to be a little creative.
 
 and a bit of magic as well you are asumming the other end has
 ssh capability, and if it has'nt ?
 cya

You can clearly see by my message that I indicated such by describing
thier home ssh.  If it doesn't have ssh, or can't be made to have
ssh, than you're SOL I suppose.

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Re: [expert] Some oddities with the kernel-source rpm

2001-11-16 Thread Vincent Danen

On Fri Nov 16, 2001 at 03:44:06PM -0200, Jeferson Lopes Zacco wrote:

  Hi all. I've found at least one bug and some weird things going on in 
 LM 8.1 related to the kernel-source package.

[...]

 Now for the bug... I got mostly upset with my friend because he 
 claimed that SoftwareManager (rpmdrake) wouldn't list the kernel-source 
 rpm and he had to install it using rpm in the console (and filling in 
 all dependencies manually). I made he double-check his settings... then, 
 when I myself uninstalled the kernel-source and looked for it again- it 
 wasn't there. The kernel-source rpm IS NOT listed as an installable 
 package. You may make the experience yourselves. While it may not be 
 difficult to install it via console- a newbie will most certainly be 
 confused. I hope that this bug in rpmdrake will be patched.
 
 Well that's it for this mail... if someone reply to this, please 
 include a cc to my email as well as the list's.

This is not a bug.  This is there for a reason.  Nothing related to
the kernel is installed via rpmdrake... too many users have in the
past decided it was a good idea to upgrade their kernel in rpmdrake
and had hosed systems due to a few inattentions to detail:  examining
lilo.conf, generatint initrd images if required, etc.  This also wiped
out their old/working kernel.  Because of that rpmdrake was fixed so
that it did nothing with the kernels.

I sincerely doubt that newbies will be using kernel-source package; if
they do, they will be following instructions on how to compile their
source drivers for their [wl]inmodems or whatever.  If they can follow
those instructions, it should be a piece of cake for them to use rpm
-ivh kernel-source* which is much more simplistic than compiling a
driver from source.

In other words, this bug will likely not be fixed anytime soon.

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Re: [expert] please read and comment..networking

2001-11-16 Thread Mark Weaver

On Wed, 07 Nov 2001 15:04:48 +0100
kons Richard Bown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You missed the point a wee bit Tom, to get out to the outside world I
 have to use a proxy sever,300 miles away in stockholm.
 I have no way of installing ssh on that server, so I'm stuck with
 telneting.
 by using port  7200 and using xinetd to only allow from 1 address is the
 best I can do under the circumstances

openssh installs just like telnet, so how is it that you're unable to install and use 
ssh on the very machine that you're now running telnet? they both connect to the 
machine in much the same way. one is unsecure and sends login information in the clear 
and one is encrypted and does not send login information in the clear. i don't see 
the problem.

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Re: [expert] I'm impressed...

2001-11-16 Thread Mark Weaver

On Wed, 7 Nov 2001 23:23:04 +1100 (EST)
Dave Horsfall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It's said that Linux is the M$ of the Unix world.  Now I know why...
 
 Hello Mandrake?  Do you really want to be known as a site whose legs
 are as open as the local crack-whores'?
[snip]

um...the last time i checked it wasn't up to Mandrake to close the legs of _your_ 
box, rather it's the operator's responsibility of the afore mentioned box to see to 
the security. Mandrake has generously endowed this distro with plently of robust 
security tools. in the end its up to you what you do or don't do with it.

that's like blaming the guy who sold the farmer the horses for the horses walking away 
because the farmer let the barn gate open! good heavens!

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Re: [expert] I'm impressed...

2001-11-16 Thread Mark Weaver

On Wed, 07 Nov 2001 10:12:56 -0600
J. Craig Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dave Horsfall wrote:
  
  It's said that Linux is the M$ of the Unix world.  Now I know why...
  
  Hello Mandrake?  Do you really want to be known as a site whose legs
  are as open as the local crack-whores'?
  
 Hey Dave, I think you have made your point. After all of your carping,
 Mandrake now can make their choice. They do read this list. At this
 point your are coming off as an ass...
 

J.

I got the definate impression he's bothered because everything wasn't done for him 
right out-a the box. h...seems like I've heard that one before.

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Re: [expert] apple network?

2001-11-16 Thread Mike Tracy Holt

A V Flinsch wrote:

On Thursday 15 November 2001 20:43, you wrote:

Hello all!
I'm running a mandrake 8.1 server which hosts printer and file
services for my windows 2000 machines via Samba; I would like to be
able to set up the same stuff for my imac running mac os 9.1 ~ what do
I need?  I want to use the same server that is already running Samba
and I would just like to add whatever I need to that server.  Does that
make sense?



You need to run netatalk, you can find Mandrake rpms at 
http://netatalk.sourceforge.net/

You can run on the same server that you are running Samba on (I do it 
that way)

As a side bonus, if you have a printer on a window machine, and it is 
shared via windows and it is set up to allow the linux machine to print 
to it, you can also see if from the Apples.


Awesome!  Thanks all for the answers - I'm up and running and it was 
relativly easy (after a couple beers ;-)  )
I do have one problem though; I'm not really an apple / mac guy.  I've 
only recently aquired a used imac and getting it networked to the rest 
of my resources was my mission (now accomplished).  I'm still unfamiliar 
with the ins and outs of the mac however, and while I can get drivers, 
software, etc right from Epson for my model 860 inkjet and it will print 
beautifully as long as I'm connected to the usb port on the mac; if I 
print throught the network, it seems the only drivers available are the 
generic laserwriter drivers.  My server is setup to use CUPS and I can 
print from Win2k through Samba with my Windows drivers and I get perfect 
prints - is there a way to setup the iMac to do the same thing?  I would 
like to be able to control the print quality the same as I can when 
printing from linux or windows clients to my server.  Do I set options 
in my papd.conf file and then just always use those settings?

Here's my working papd.conf:

Epson860:\
:pr=/usr/bin/lpr -PEpson860:\
:pd=/etc/cups/ppd/Epson860.ppd:


I assume that the last line is the actual driver that I'm using, but on 
the mac I've selected 'laserwriter8' from my chooser and it also prompts 
me for a driver (for which I selected 'generic').

Thanks all!  
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[expert] OpenOffice

2001-11-16 Thread Timothy R. Butler

Hi everyone,
  Does anyone know of someplace where I can get a fairly up-to-date 
OpenOffice RPM? I can't seem to find any Mandrake RPM's newer than Oct-2000 
for OpenOffice.

  Thanks,
   Tim

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Re: [expert] Re: file permissons

2001-11-16 Thread David Guntner

Michael D. Viron grabbed a keyboard and wrote:

 Actually, make /home mode 755, which will allow users to get access to
 their home directory under /home.  You can then chmod 700 each individual
 account, or you could try to remove read permissions on /home.

If he wants to stop users from seeing the other home directories 
themselves, he can set /home as 711, since it needs execute permissions to 
function as a directory.  Without read permissions, a ls command won't turn 
up much. :-)  Then the individual home directories under there can be 700.

  --Dave

 I seem to remember that someone locally had figured this out a few years
 ago on a solaris box.can't quite remember what they did.
 
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[expert] Re: file permissons

2001-11-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]


if i make /home wif chmod 700 user cant join there home but if i let default 
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2001-11-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]


if i make /home wif chmod 700 user cant join there home but if i let default 
every user could sniff watch other users homes how can i solve it




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Re: [expert] Re: file permissons

2001-11-16 Thread Michael D. Viron

Actually, make /home mode 755, which will allow users to get access to
their home directory under /home.  You can then chmod 700 each individual
account, or you could try to remove read permissions on /home.

I seem to remember that someone locally had figured this out a few years
ago on a solaris box.can't quite remember what they did.

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