Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Ken Hawkins wrote: Maybe I missed the response, but is this a downloaded ISO image? If so, did you perform a checksum test? All it takes is one bad source file to ruin a good ISO. Very good point, Ken! Yes, this is a downloaded ISO image, and I'm not quite sure that checksum test is performed. I'll check that first! Thanks for the tip! Cheers! -- Davor Cengija [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] What video card to use in Linux to watch movies on my TV
What video card to use in Linux to watch movies on my TV In other words. Which video card has the best tv-out support in Linux? Please do not reply with theoretical bullshit, but would like to hear some practical examples. Marc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Mandrake 8.1 server
I need to install a mandrake 8.1 as a postfix server, i am new in the linux server univers (old aix, true 64 admin) so i would like to know witch kernel i should downgrade/upgrade to for greater stability. What about ekstra security tool - is there a todo list for installing a secure linux server somwhere. Is it posible to install mandrake without X ___ Mvh./Yours sincerely Lars Lars Roland Kristiansen | Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stu. Sci. Math/Computer science | TLF(home):39670663 Copenhagen University - | Home address: Emdrupvej 175 Institute for Mathematical Sciences | C/O Rune Bruhn 2400 Copenhagen NV Url: www.math.ku.dk | Politics is for the moment, equations are forever - Albert Einstein Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What book would you recommend?
I recently purchased Teach Yourself C For Linux Programming In 21 Days. You would probably be interested in it's brother, Teach Yourself C++ For Linux Programming In 21 Days, they are both published by Sams. I hope this helps. Kindest Regards, Ashley (aka ze0). |--| | Ashley Reynolds (aka ze0)[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.botepidemic.com Ph: +61 404 140 163 | | | | Registered Linux User: #254073 | |--| On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Roberto Armenteros wrote: Whats a good book available for linux that will help me start writing programs in c++ in the Linux API. I am a junior in college and I am focusing my studies into network security programming. I am having a hard time finding the the right book. This is what i am looking for in this book - I am interested in learining the Linux API, using make files, system calls, using/including the main libraries, getting use to the available linux compailers/debugging technics I find gcc to be a little uncomfortable to use after one is used to Visual C++ which gives me clear messages upon any error. I want to be very proficient using g++ since I want to focus my future efforts towards the linux free software development and NOT in windows platform. I am very familirar with c++ programming most of its aspects thats why I am afraid that the Introduction to Linux Programming book by Neil Matthew, Richard Stones would be too trivial. I dont need to learn about scripting or web development as well as Inheritance or object oriented programming. I would appreciate any suggestion Thanks a lot... Roberto Armenteros. __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake 8.1 server
At 11:30 AM 1/8/2002 +0100, you wrote: I need to install a mandrake 8.1 as a postfix server, i am new in the linux server univers (old aix, true 64 admin) so i would like to know witch kernel i should downgrade/upgrade to for greater stability. Look for one of the recent versions of the 2.4.x kernel on http://www.rpmfind.net or http://www.kernel.org (if you prefer a tarball that you can configure and compile). What about ekstra security tool - is there a todo list for installing a secure linux server somwhere. Oh yea! Look into firewalling with iptables Is it posible to install mandrake without X Yes, it is. If you are new to Linux, you have a lot to read. It is not AIX or True64. Do not hesitate to RTFM and STFW, and, oh yea, have a lot of fun and good luck. J. Craig Woods UNIX/NT SA -Art is the illusion of spontaneity- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake 8.1 server
So sprach »Lars Roland Kristiansen« am 2002-01-08 um 11:30:20 +0100 : I need to install a mandrake 8.1 as a postfix server, i am new in the linux server univers (old aix, true 64 admin) so i would like to know witch kernel i should downgrade/upgrade to for greater stability. After you've installed Mandrake, go to rpmdrake and add a security source. Then update to the latest kernel and everything else you see fit. What about ekstra security tool - is there a todo list for installing a secure linux server somwhere. What do you want to secure? Basically uninstall/deactivate every service/server you don't need. Is it posible to install mandrake without X Uhm, I think so, yes. However, it's much easier to have X installed and just not use it. Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.de | Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 22 days 19 hours 4 minutes Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] What video card to use in Linux to watch movies on my TV
And you expect an answer to that question? Chill out guy! Be polite and pleasant and all will answer! Original Message: - From: Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 11:03:01 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] What video card to use in Linux to watch movies on my TV What video card to use in Linux to watch movies on my TV In other words. Which video card has the best tv-out support in Linux? Please do not reply with theoretical bullshit, but would like to hear some practical examples. Marc mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] apache httpd.conf access.conf srm.conf
Hello, In apache there are 3 configuration files - httpd.conf - srm.conf - access.conf Since version 1.3.x apache accepts all the directives in only one file : httpd.conf. However if the files access.conf and srm.conf are not empty they are read bye apache ? In the affirmative, and if there are directives conflicts or differences between httpd.conf and srm.conf or access.conf, how it works ? JPaul ___ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en français ! Yahoo! Courrier : http://courrier.yahoo.fr Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] What video card to use in Linux to watch movies on my TV
At 06:14 AM 1/8/2002 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And you expect people to answer your question!!! The best way to get help on this list is to be polite and cordial. A member. Original Message: - From: Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 11:03:01 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] What video card to use in Linux to watch movies on my TV What video card to use in Linux to watch movies on my TV In other words. Which video card has the best tv-out support in Linux? Please do not reply with theoretical bullshit, but would like to hear some practical examples. Marc You guys are so polite ([EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]). I would simply respond to this clown with the traditional STFW. J. C. Woods UNIX/NT SA -Art is the illusion of spontaneity- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable
Windows ME = Winblows More Errors My PII 300 Intel Chipset works pretty fine with MDK 8.1. But with some others computers (mainly new ones with Via chipset) I had some difficults and back to MDK 8.0. On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, Ashley Reynolds wrote: Windows ME was truly Microsoft's *worst* operating system. Kindest Regards, Ashley (aka ze0). |--| | Ashley Reynolds (aka ze0)[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.botepidemic.com Ph: +61 404 140 163 | | | | Registered Linux User: #254073 | |--| On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Gary A. Garibaldi wrote: I installed Mandrake 8.1 in about 45 minutes since it became available and if I wouldn't have moved this pass week it would have been up for over 3 months with out a hitch. I can't say the same about WinME. I spent 12 hours yesterday with my son-inlaw getting his system reinstalled because of multi-virui. I had multiple problems with sound and modem, and only after searching the internet I found the drivers and was able to get the basic system installed. Today he is installing all the other programs that he uses. Gary On Monday 07 January 2002 16:06 pm, you wrote: Marc wrote: Unstable?? Are you kidding? My windows installation had all kinds of problem not recoqnicing hardware, conflicting irq etc etc. MDK 8.1 runs very smooth without any prblem at all. So MDK 8.1 is very stable. marc On Monday 07 January 2002 06:59 pm, you wrote: On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Davor Cengija wrote: I'm having a really hard time with this new 8.1 distribution. It is very unstable and unpredictable (something I wouldn't expect from Mandrake Linux). Anyone experienced similar problems, say: - kicker dies without obvious reason - konqueror segfaults with libstdc++ errors in debug stack trace - the X server freezes while the rest of the system works fine (say, internet connection). However, mouse and keyboard are dead (since they're controlled by X, of course) - xemacs segfaults with different errors, in different states There are some other problems as well. I'll skip pasting stack traces, etc for now. The strange thing is that everything works just fine after reboot (like in windows :-). So, I'd say that either kernel or some standard lib (glibc, libstdc++ or whatever) is broken. Sometimes one error in say konqueror is followed by xemacs' segfault. Check your hardware. This sounds suspiciously like a failing CPU or case fan. I've been running 8.1 for about two months now and it has been solid. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Are you using standard KDE from mandrake or the souped-up version that does fast loads? It sounds suspiciously like you have one of the sensitive systems and you tried the second option. I have one 8.1 installation that would have four months uptime except that I had to move its location from room to room and shut it down for that purpose. The only things giving me trouble are mozilla and Aethera, which have to be killed periodically, Others with some interesting video cards or with video vs NIC IRQ conflicts have reported some problems, but rarely. One of the nice things about this distro is that you can set PnP BIOS to yes with most machines, but you had better set ACPI to No Civileme -- --- Alan Wilter S. da Silva --- Laboratório de Física Biológica Instituto de Biofísica Carlos Chagas Filho Universidade do Brasil/UFRJ Rio de Janeiro, Brasil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What video card to use in Linux to watch movies on myTV
I have a Studio PCTV and I can watch TV in my Linux Box MDK 8.1 with Xawtv. It works better under Winblows but unfortunately not in total fullscreen. My vga card is a Voodoo 3 3000 with Tv output. On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, Marc wrote: What video card to use in Linux to watch movies on my TV In other words. Which video card has the best tv-out support in Linux? Please do not reply with theoretical bullshit, but would like to hear some practical examples. Marc -- --- Alan Wilter S. da Silva --- Laboratório de Física Biológica Instituto de Biofísica Carlos Chagas Filho Universidade do Brasil/UFRJ Rio de Janeiro, Brasil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable
On Monday 07 January 2002 10:37 pm, you wrote: On Mon, 2002-01-07 at 16:52, Davor Cengija wrote: So, concensus would be that I have some hardware related problems, which is quite unusual since Mdk 7.2 worked just fine without any problem. Not necessarily PROBLEMS; just that Mdk 8.1 is more STRICT, and won't tolerate (perhaps) marginal hardware, and 7.2 will. I have to say that when it comes to hardware, the detection is a bit off.. I can run my tv/radio card with xawtv just fine but not the radio. the sound mixer doesn't work properly until you do a modprobe of the sound card.. and I have been running a sound card thats been linux compatible for years. (es1371) other than that, I must say how much nicer things are getting with most software and kde.. Harold Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable
On Tuesday 08 January 2002 10:20 am, you wrote: Windows ME = Winblows More Errors My PII 300 Intel Chipset works pretty fine with MDK 8.1. But with some others computers (mainly new ones with Via chipset) I had some difficults and back to MDK 8.0. I have some problems with MDK 8.1 and I also have a via chip too. Harold On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, Ashley Reynolds wrote: Windows ME was truly Microsoft's *worst* operating system. Kindest Regards, Ashley (aka ze0). |--| | Ashley Reynolds (aka ze0)[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.botepidemic.com Ph: +61 404 140 163 | | | Registered Linux User: #254073 | |--| On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Gary A. Garibaldi wrote: I installed Mandrake 8.1 in about 45 minutes since it became available and if I wouldn't have moved this pass week it would have been up for over 3 months with out a hitch. I can't say the same about WinME. I spent 12 hours yesterday with my son-inlaw getting his system reinstalled because of multi-virui. I had multiple problems with sound and modem, and only after searching the internet I found the drivers and was able to get the basic system installed. Today he is installing all the other programs that he uses. Gary On Monday 07 January 2002 16:06 pm, you wrote: Marc wrote: Unstable?? Are you kidding? My windows installation had all kinds of problem not recoqnicing hardware, conflicting irq etc etc. MDK 8.1 runs very smooth without any prblem at all. So MDK 8.1 is very stable. marc On Monday 07 January 2002 06:59 pm, you wrote: On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Davor Cengija wrote: I'm having a really hard time with this new 8.1 distribution. It is very unstable and unpredictable (something I wouldn't expect from Mandrake Linux). Anyone experienced similar problems, say: - kicker dies without obvious reason - konqueror segfaults with libstdc++ errors in debug stack trace - the X server freezes while the rest of the system works fine (say, internet connection). However, mouse and keyboard are dead (since they're controlled by X, of course) - xemacs segfaults with different errors, in different states There are some other problems as well. I'll skip pasting stack traces, etc for now. The strange thing is that everything works just fine after reboot (like in windows :-). So, I'd say that either kernel or some standard lib (glibc, libstdc++ or whatever) is broken. Sometimes one error in say konqueror is followed by xemacs' segfault. Check your hardware. This sounds suspiciously like a failing CPU or case fan. I've been running 8.1 for about two months now and it has been solid. --- - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Are you using standard KDE from mandrake or the souped-up version that does fast loads? It sounds suspiciously like you have one of the sensitive systems and you tried the second option. I have one 8.1 installation that would have four months uptime except that I had to move its location from room to room and shut it down for that purpose. The only things giving me trouble are mozilla and Aethera, which have to be killed periodically, Others with some interesting video cards or with video vs NIC IRQ conflicts have reported some problems, but rarely. One of the nice things about this distro is that you can set PnP BIOS to yes with most machines, but you had better set ACPI to No Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable
Me too :-) In the MDK control centre- services. Deselect alsa on boot option. Reconfigure the card with sndconfig and reboot. Nick. Harold Hartley wrote: the sound mixer doesn't work properly until you do a modprobe of the sound card.. and I have been running a sound card thats been linux compatible for years. (es1371) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable
On Monday 07 January 2002 12:52 pm, Davor Cengija wrote: As far as I can see, CPU and fan are working fine. Is there any hardware stress/testing tool available for Linux (or even for Windows)? The best, cpuburn, both windoze and Linux versions http://users.ev1.net/~redelm/ -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas, USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] DHCP configuration to improve detection on dynamic IP
On Mon, 2002-01-07 at 23:20, Stephen Liu wrote: Hi All People, Kindly advise a simple and straightward method to configure network settings in using DHCP to improve the detection on dynamic IP address. Thanks in advance. B.R. Stephen Stephen, Forgive me for sounding obtuse, but I am not sure what you are asking. Perhaps you could rephrase the question? Dave -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] peer to peer netwoking and linux - possible ?
On 7 Jan 2002, Michael Leone wrote: On Mon, 2002-01-07 at 15:30, J. Craig Woods wrote: Randy, and et al, the owner of this tread is asking about a peer to peer network, and makes no mention of having a Windoze box on that network. Therefore, Samba is not an option. Samba is only for connectivity between UNIX (Linux) and a machine running some version of a Windows' OS. NFS is And Macs; Macs can connect to a Windows style network, so you could (theoretically) have a Linux server running Samba, and Mac clients, all connecting via Samba protocols, and nary a Windows machine in sight. Or you could use the native AppleTalk protocol and run Netatalk. I haven't tried it with OSX yet, but it works fine with everything previous. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] apache httpd.conf access.conf srm.conf
No, in version 1.3.x, apache 'deprecated' srm.conf and access.conf . This does not mean that it does not accept directives from them, but it is strongly suggested not to use them. That being said, in the default Mandrake configuration, srm.conf and access.conf do not exist, and actually are not set up as 'includes' in the main httpd.conf file. So, even if you created them, they would not be read, unless you really wanted to do some editing in the httpd.conf file to get apache to read them. Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida At 12:04 PM 01/08/2002 +0100, you wrote: Hello, In apache there are 3 configuration files - httpd.conf - srm.conf - access.conf Since version 1.3.x apache accepts all the directives in only one file : httpd.conf. However if the files access.conf and srm.conf are not empty they are read bye apache ? In the affirmative, and if there are directives conflicts or differences between httpd.conf and srm.conf or access.conf, how it works ? JPaul ___ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en français ! Yahoo! Courrier : http://courrier.yahoo.fr Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What video card to use in Linux to watch movies on my TV
Tuesday, January 08, 2002, 5:25:06 PM, you wrote: AWSdS I have a Studio PCTV and I can watch TV in my Linux Box MDK 8.1 with AWSdS Xawtv. It works better under Winblows but unfortunately not in total AWSdS fullscreen. My vga card is a Voodoo 3 3000 with Tv output. X windows has a support for v4l extension. I dont know which cars it supports now, and which, it does not, but i815, nvidia chipsets seems working. In your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file, in the modules section, add Loadv4l and restart your X. If it supports your video adapter, it should make the video smoother and it should let you watch TV in full screen in whatever resolution your desktop is. I dont know if it is something you need, but there may be someone out there who does. Onur Kucuk _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake 8.1 server
Yes, it is. If you are new to Linux, you have a lot to read. It is not AIX or True64. Do not hesitate to RTFM and STFW, and, oh yea, have a lot of fun and good luck. Craig, What is STFW? I finally figured out RTFM but this is a new one for me G -- Ken Thompson, North West Antique Autos Payette, Idaho Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nwaa.com Sales and brokering of antique autos and parts. Linux- Coming Soon To A Desktop Near You Registered Linux User #183936 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Mandrake 8.1 server
Search the F** web. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken Thompson Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 1:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake 8.1 server Yes, it is. If you are new to Linux, you have a lot to read. It is not AIX or True64. Do not hesitate to RTFM and STFW, and, oh yea, have a lot of fun and good luck. Craig, What is STFW? I finally figured out RTFM but this is a new one for me G -- Ken Thompson, North West Antique Autos Payette, Idaho Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nwaa.com Sales and brokering of antique autos and parts. Linux- Coming Soon To A Desktop Near You Registered Linux User #183936 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] cooker kernel rpms
On Tuesday 08 January 2002 10:34 am, you wrote: Is there any one out there with late version 2.4.16 kernels from the mandrake cooker? I just went to get one but it jumped up to 2.4.17 and there is an NFS bug when talking to 64 bit OS's. I need to run a non 8.1 default kernel (as it plays better with my GForce3). If any one can help me it would be great, linus kernels seem to hang on the ethernet setup. Just wondering is there any place that these old kernel builds might live? ITs for the soon to be many Linux machines that I run at work. And some kernels play better with others. I have the 2.4.16-16 Kernel and headers, about 15Mb to transfer. If you need it, I'll post it on my web site for you. -- Ken Thompson, North West Antique Autos Payette, Idaho Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nwaa.com Sales and brokering of antique autos and parts. Linux- Coming Soon To A Desktop Near You Registered Linux User #183936 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Network setup with MCC.
Am I missing something??? I don't find a way with MCC to export or mount file systems on other computers in the network. I have to go to linuxconf to do this. I seem to remember in 8.0 there was a dialog for exporting and mounting. -- Ken Thompson, North West Antique Autos Payette, Idaho Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nwaa.com Sales and brokering of antique autos and parts. Linux- Coming Soon To A Desktop Near You Registered Linux User #183936 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Network setup with MCC.
Ken Thompson wrote: Am I missing something??? I don't find a way with MCC to export or mount file systems on other computers in the network. I have to go to linuxconf to do this. I seem to remember in 8.0 there was a dialog for exporting and mounting. Forget the GUI's. Spend a (very) little time, and learn the format of /etc/exports (for exporting filesystems), and mount (with /etc/fstab) for mounting them. Then you won't be married to those silly GUIs. ;) -- Ric Tibbetts Unix Systems Administration Linux registration number: 55684 If you want to help advertise Linux - point your friends to http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I'm impressed with ATI!
Ron Heron wrote: Also, take a look at the Matrox site. They actually provide software! The Matrox PowerDesk is an excellent utility for setting up displays and muli-displays in linux, plus they have their own, easy to install XFree86 server. I only use ATI and Matrox in my PC's for these reasons. Hero I like the idea of their support, but is 3D acceleration covered? Just curious...thanks! ;-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Davor Cengija wrote: On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Ken Hawkins wrote: Maybe I missed the response, but is this a downloaded ISO image? If so, did you perform a checksum test? All it takes is one bad source file to ruin a good ISO. Very good point, Ken! Yes, this is a downloaded ISO image, and I'm not quite sure that checksum test is performed. I'll check that first! Thanks for the tip! Hmm... Checksums are OK, memtest shows no errors, reiserfsck doesn't complain about anythng. Swap is on and working fine (I have 512MB of RAM so I rarely need swap). Cpuburn is running all day without any errors. lm sensors report normal temperatures. Actually, the whole system is stable today. And in fact, that's the strange part of the story. Who knows how it will be tomorrow... Anyway, thanks everybody for help and tips, I'll continue with my investigations and eventually report my findings and solutions! Cheers! -- Davor Cengija [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] MDK 8.1 vs Redhat 7.2
For anyone interested: Over this past weekend, I was in a scary mood, and decided to check out Redhat 7.2 Enigma. Mostly curiosity. I ran Redhat for many years before switching to MDK, and i was curious about how their lattest release was looking. For what it's worth, my impressions were: The installation was extremely smooth, and trouble free. However, the installation did not offer a way to configure some key services (like NIS (which I do use), or printing, as two very visible examples). In short, the installtion had the feeling of being incomplete compared to Mandrake. Once it was up running another shortcoming appeared: MDK offers the option of using XFree86 v3.xxx + 3D acceleration for cards not supported by v4 (mine is such a card: ATI 3D Rage (Mach 64) It's a 3D card, but the acceleration is not supported by v4). So you were stuck with unaccelerated 3D. I was able to configure NIS by hand, so that wasn't a problem. Printing became another issue. There seemd to be no support for my printer (Epson photo 785EPX USB). Other than the above issues, I found the overall system performance of Enigma to be very good, and although I didn't collect statistics to support this, it felt to me to perform generally better than MDK 8.1 (just an opinion). In the end though, I re-loaded MDK 8.1, I couldn't live with: No 3D acceleration (I didn't want to mess with patching in XFree86 3.x) No support for my photo printer. Also, Redhat just seemed to be short some pieces. Nothing I made an inventory of, it just seemed lacking for desktop use, and probably more adept to server usage. I was in fact impressed enough with the progress that Redhat has made that I may re-load my server over to Redhat again, and stay with Mandrake for my desktop machines. Again, these are just impressions. I just thought I'd pass them along. I've since reloaded Mandrake on my desktop, and will stick with it for now. ;) -- Ric Tibbetts Linux registration number: 55684 If you want to help advertise Linux - point your friends to http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MDK 8.1 vs Redhat 7.2
On Tuesday 08 January 2002 22:09, Ric Tibbetts wrote: Over this past weekend, I was in a scary mood, and decided to check out Redhat 7.2 Enigma. snip I've since reloaded Mandrake on my desktop, and will stick with it for now. ;) We forgive you, O prodigal son. Here, have a piece of fattened calf. -- Michel Clasquin, D Litt et Phil (Unisa) [EMAIL PROTECTED]/unisa.ac.za http://www.geocities.com/clasqm This message was posted from a Microsoft-free PC f u cn rd ths, u cn gt a gd jb n nx dmnstrtn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] cooker kernel rpms
Did you try http://rpmfind.net ?? On Tuesday 08 January 2002 10:34 am, you wrote: Is there any one out there with late version 2.4.16 kernels from the mandrake cooker? I just went to get one but it jumped up to 2.4.17 and there is an NFS bug when talking to 64 bit OS's. I need to run a non 8.1 default kernel (as it plays better with my GForce3). If any one can help me it would be great, linus kernels seem to hang on the ethernet setup. Just wondering is there any place that these old kernel builds might live? ITs for the soon to be many Linux machines that I run at work. And some kernels play better with others. I have the 2.4.16-16 Kernel and headers, about 15Mb to transfer. If you need it, I'll post it on my web site for you. -- Ken Thompson, North West Antique Autos Payette, Idaho Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nwaa.com Sales and brokering of antique autos and parts. Linux- Coming Soon To A Desktop Near You Registered Linux User #183936 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] cooker kernel rpms
Did you try http://rpmfind.net ?? That (usually) won't work, since those are mostly links to places holding RPMs. If the RPMs disappear from the linked site, rpmfind is useless, since the link will now point to a non-existant file. You need a site that deliberately stores copies of all Mandrake kernel (and associated) RPMs, and never overwrites/deletes older versions (as all the mirrors now do). On Tuesday 08 January 2002 10:34 am, you wrote: Is there any one out there with late version 2.4.16 kernels from the mandrake cooker? I just went to get one but it jumped up to 2.4.17 and there is an NFS bug when talking to 64 bit OS's. I need to run a non 8.1 default kernel (as it plays better with my GForce3). If any one can help me it would be great, linus kernels seem to hang on the ethernet setup. Just wondering is there any place that these old kernel builds might live? ITs for the soon to be many Linux machines that I run at work. And some kernels play better with others. I have the 2.4.16-16 Kernel and headers, about 15Mb to transfer. If you need it, I'll post it on my web site for you. -- Ken Thompson, North West Antique Autos Payette, Idaho Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nwaa.com Sales and brokering of antique autos and parts. Linux- Coming Soon To A Desktop Near You Registered Linux User #183936 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What video card to use in Linux to watch movies on my TV
--- Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What video card to use in Linux to watch movies on my TV In other words. Which video card has the best tv-out support in Linux? Please do not reply with theoretical bullshit, but would like to hear some practical examples. IF you say so, why not buy one (any ) and test by yourself, it is REALLY Pratical, as you may not believe in others , it is still not Practical! Marc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com = S.KIEU http://my.yahoo.com.au - My Yahoo! - It's My Yahoo! Get your own! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What video card to use in Linux to watch movies on my TV
Therortically, any bttv based card should work to watch TV on your computer screen. This has nothing to do with TV out though. This is about the video card. It is my theroy that you would need a card that supports TV out under linux, perhaps an ATI Radeon using a program called atitvout. I can offer you no real examples though...so get off your ass and look for yourself. Search google or the Linux hardware database On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 06:14:52 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And you expect people to answer your question!!! The best way to get help on this list is to be polite and cordial. A member. Original Message: - From: Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 11:03:01 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] What video card to use in Linux to watch movies on my TV What video card to use in Linux to watch movies on my TV In other words. Which video card has the best tv-out support in Linux? Please do not reply with theoretical bullshit, but would like to hear some practical examples. Marc mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . msg47386/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] Network setup with MCC.
At 11:41 AM 1/8/2002 -0800, you wrote: Ken Thompson wrote: Am I missing something??? I don't find a way with MCC to export or mount file systems on other computers in the network. I have to go to linuxconf to do this. I seem to remember in 8.0 there was a dialog for exporting and mounting. Forget the GUI's. Spend a (very) little time, and learn the format of /etc/exports (for exporting filesystems), and mount (with /etc/fstab) for mounting them. Then you won't be married to those silly GUIs. ;) -- Ric Tibbetts Unix Systems Administration Amen brother! This is good advise, and, not to be forgotten, while you are at it, do a man on exportfs. J. Craig Woods UNIX/NT SA -Art is the illusion of spontaneity- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Network setup with MCC.
On Tuesday 08 January 2002 03:10 pm, you wrote: At 11:41 AM 1/8/2002 -0800, you wrote: Ken Thompson wrote: Am I missing something??? I don't find a way with MCC to export or mount file systems on other computers in the network. I have to go to linuxconf to do this. I seem to remember in 8.0 there was a dialog for exporting and mounting. Forget the GUI's. Spend a (very) little time, and learn the format of /etc/exports (for exporting filesystems), and mount (with /etc/fstab) for mounting them. Then you won't be married to those silly GUIs. ;) -- Ric Tibbetts Unix Systems Administration Amen brother! This is good advise, and, not to be forgotten, while you are at it, do a man on exportfs. J. Craig Woods UNIX/NT SA -Art is the illusion of spontaneity- I DO work with the Exports, FSTAB, HOSTS and etc, but was thinking of those that are new to Linux. If Linux is ever going to make it as a viable desktop O/S for the masses it's going to have to have GUI tools. To a purist, I suppose a GUI is silly but to the majority of the people they're not. I came up through the Commodore 64 to XT to 286 etc but was always looking for an easier way to do things. For better or worse, most people in this world are visual orientated.. That's major reason for M$'s success... Easy to use GUI computing.. -- Ken Thompson, North West Antique Autos Payette, Idaho Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nwaa.com Sales and brokering of antique autos and parts. Linux- Coming Soon To A Desktop Near You Registered Linux User #183936 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Multi boot with Lm 8.1
At 03:36 PM 1/8/2002 -0700, you wrote: I have my system configured as so: Disk /dev/hda: 240 heads, 63 sectors, 3278 cylinders Units = cylinders of 15120 * 512 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 1 259 1958008+ 6 FAT16 /dev/hda2 260 3278 22823640f Win95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/hda5 260 665 3069328+ 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/hda6 666 812 288+ 83 Linux /dev/hda7 813 1367 4195768+ b Win95 FAT32 /dev/hda8 1368 1461710608+ b Win95 FAT32 /dev/hda9 1462 2003 4097488+ 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/hda10 2004 2558 4195768+ 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/hda11 2559 2836 2101648+ 83 Linux /dev/hda12 2837 3225 2940808+ 83 Linux /dev/hda13 3226 3278400648+ 82 Linux swap I have the NT bootloader installed on /dev/hda1, I have LILO installed on /dev/hda6 and have run the command: dd if=/dev/hda6 of=/mnt/win_c/bootsect.lin bs=512 count=1 to create the boot sector file needed for loading, and modified my boot.ini file: [boot loader] timeout=15 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT=Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional /fastdetect C:\=Microsoft Windows bootsect.lin=Mandrake Linux 8.1 Under Lm 7.2, and 8.0 this worked great, under 8.1, the system just reboots. Did something change here? Try this: If partition hda6 is where your boot records for Linux are, do this: dd if=/dev/hda6 of=/bootsect.lnx bs=512 count=1 copy this file over to your C drive or over to the drive that boots up Windows with the boot.ini file. In boot.ini add this line: C:\BOOTSECT.LNX=Linux Mandrake 8.1 This should do it for you. J. Craig Woods UNIX/NT SA -Art is the illusion of spontaneity- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Network setup with MCC.
At 04:08 PM 1/8/2002 -0700, you wrote: I DO work with the Exports, FSTAB, HOSTS and etc, but was thinking of those that are new to Linux. If Linux is ever going to make it as a viable desktop O/S for the masses it's going to have to have GUI tools. To a purist, I suppose a GUI is silly but to the majority of the people they're not. I came up through the Commodore 64 to XT to 286 etc but was always looking for an easier way to do things. For better or worse, most people in this world are visual orientated.. That's major reason for M$'s success... Easy to use GUI computing.. -- Well, if at all possible, let us try to keep those kind of questions, questions about beginners needing GUI tools, on the beginners list, and at least *fake* a semblance to this being an expert list. Thanks, J. Craig Woods UNIX/NT SA -Art is the illusion of spontaneity- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What video card to use in Linux to watch movies on my TV
Apperently it is very hard for some people on this list to answer a simple question. On Tuesday 08 January 2002 09:50 pm, you wrote: --- Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What video card to use in Linux to watch movies on my TV In other words. Which video card has the best tv-out support in Linux? Please do not reply with theoretical bullshit, but would like to hear some practical examples. IF you say so, why not buy one (any ) and test by yourself, it is REALLY Pratical, as you may not believe in others , it is still not Practical! Marc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com = S.KIEU http://my.yahoo.com.au - My Yahoo! - It's My Yahoo! Get your own! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Please help -Still in trouble with Asus A7V266-E can' t load system
Hi, I'm still in trouble with my Asus a7V266-e. No way to load L.M. 8.1 even if I had installed in an disk over the Primary Master integrated Promise ata 100 controler, that is see, by installation, as hda even if I got an other hd installed over the normal controler which one is see during installation as hde. Thanks in advince for your time, and for any help. Evaristo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Network setup with MCC.
Well, if at all possible, let us try to keep those kind of questions, questions about beginners needing GUI tools, on the beginners list, and at least *fake* a semblance to this being an expert list. Thanks, J. Craig Woods UNIX/NT SA -Art is the illusion of spontaneity- OK, but the original question was never answered. AND it IS about Mandrake, and using Mandrake with the tools provided. While reading the Experts List I see many refernces to the MCC, so people are using the tools (including some of the staff). Mainly I was asking if something had been forgotten in the MCC for the Network Setup Wizard.. If not, what did I miss?? I just went through it again and still see no way to complete the network by mounting other file systems or exporting this one. I need to have some confidence in the MCC if I'm to set up different things like DSL, ISDN Networking etc. To try to configure all the areas by hand is niether time nor cost effective on a service call @$50.00 per hr. Things are also changing in the way the config files are stored/read, an example would be the resolve.conf, one under /etc and one in /etc/ppp, OK, which one should be used?? I suppose at home I could (and did) try each one to figure out which got read first but in the field it's not my time I'm wasting. I'm not trying to start a flame war, I just want to know the Mandrake release I use better. -- Ken Thompson, North West Antique Autos Payette, Idaho Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nwaa.com Sales and brokering of antique autos and parts. Linux- Coming Soon To A Desktop Near You Registered Linux User #183936 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable
We are going nowhere. People are addicted to Windblows, they will experiment with Linux on a marginal box, and then, because it is so much better, move it to a more powerful box. If the marginal box part craps out, no powerful box for you... Microsloth wins. mg On Monday 07 January 2002 23:18, Michael Leone wrote: On Mon, 2002-01-07 at 23:03, mike wrote: One of the virtues of Linux over Windblows was that the hardware requiremtns were less stringent, no? There's a difference between less stringent and marginal. mg On Monday 07 January 2002 22:37, Michael Leone wrote: On Mon, 2002-01-07 at 16:52, Davor Cengija wrote: So, concensus would be that I have some hardware related problems, which is quite unusual since Mdk 7.2 worked just fine without any problem. Not necessarily PROBLEMS; just that Mdk 8.1 is more STRICT, and won't tolerate (perhaps) marginal hardware, and 7.2 will. Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Multi boot with Lm 8.1
On Tue, 2002-01-08 at 16:11, J. Craig Woods wrote: At 03:36 PM 1/8/2002 -0700, you wrote: [boot loader] timeout=15 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT=Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional /fastdetect C:\=Microsoft Windows bootsect.lin=Mandrake Linux 8.1 C:\BOOTSECT.LNX=Linux Mandrake 8.1 Thanks Craig, I forgot the C:\ at the front of my line in the boot.ini file WARNING: Unable to see the forest because of all the trees! -- ...Rob = Robert Goshko Axis Computer Consulting Services, Inc President Sherwood Park, Alberta, Canada Supporting the Revolution In Your World = 6:28pm up 3 min, 2 users, load average: 1.01, 0.52, 0.20 msg47397/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable
i think there was a problem with the download edition, I have downloaded it 3 times for 3 different computers, on each computer is was slooow and very unstable ( i was lucky to have a 1 day uptime ). I think we should take a vote to figure out what is wrong, Tell me if 8.1 is giving you problems or working great and was it the download edition, powerpack, gaming, etc? mark On Wednesday 09 January 2002 07:16 am, you wrote: We are going nowhere. People are addicted to Windblows, they will experiment with Linux on a marginal box, and then, because it is so much better, move it to a more powerful box. If the marginal box part craps out, no powerful box for you... Microsloth wins. mg On Monday 07 January 2002 23:18, Michael Leone wrote: On Mon, 2002-01-07 at 23:03, mike wrote: One of the virtues of Linux over Windblows was that the hardware requiremtns were less stringent, no? There's a difference between less stringent and marginal. mg On Monday 07 January 2002 22:37, Michael Leone wrote: On Mon, 2002-01-07 at 16:52, Davor Cengija wrote: So, concensus would be that I have some hardware related problems, which is quite unusual since Mdk 7.2 worked just fine without any problem. Not necessarily PROBLEMS; just that Mdk 8.1 is more STRICT, and won't tolerate (perhaps) marginal hardware, and 7.2 will. Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- 7:43pm up 6:14, 2 users, load average: 0.44, 0.28, 0.20 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] tv out--some help
ok sorry for the sarcasm. I found a how to using an nivida card here http://www.linuxhardware.org/features/01/05/29/2147241.shtml here is some stuff for configuring ATI cards ...theres an option below for TV out http://gatos.sourceforge.net/watching_tv.php did you find this one concerning matrox cards? http://marvel.sourceforge.net/ hope this is a help rob msg47399/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[expert]
Hi, all I have copied the files from all 3 CDs onto an ftp server so I can do ftp installs, but when I select new software to install with software manager, I still have to put in the CDs. Instead of shuffling CDs in and out of CD-ROM, is there anyway to have package manager retrieve file from the ftp server automatically? Another question is that I would like to replace some of the rpm with newer ones so that no upgrading is required after installation. If I tried just simply replaced the rpm file, it will just tell me that it cannot find the (original) rpm file. I have a feeling the questions are related to hdlist.cz in base folder, but have no clue on how or what to use to edit it. Any help is appreciated. Robin _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Network setup with MCC.
On Tue, 2002-01-08 at 18:18, J. Craig Woods wrote: Well, if at all possible, let us try to keep those kind of questions, questions about beginners needing GUI tools, on the beginners list, and at least *fake* a semblance to this being an expert list. It's the experts who make the GUIs for the beginners. And this might be one way for the experts to learn what newbies want/need. -- -- Michael J. Leone Registered Linux user #201348 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 50453890 AIM: MikeLeone PGP Fingerprint: 0AA8 DC47 CB63 AE3F C739 6BF9 9AB4 1EF6 5AA5 BCDF PGP public key: http://www.mike-leone.com/~turgon/turgon-public-key.gpg Sometimes your lack of sympathy gets hard to explain, So on your mask of make-up you just paint a little parody of pain When you were young, Del Amitri signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable
On Tue, 2002-01-08 at 08:45, Mark D'voo wrote: i think there was a problem with the download edition, I have downloaded it 3 times for 3 different computers, on each computer is was slooow and very unstable ( i was lucky to have a 1 day uptime ). I think we should take a vote to figure out what is wrong, Tell me if 8.1 is giving you problems or working great and was it the download edition, powerpack, gaming, etc? Download version, and very stable; works great for me. -- -- Michael J. Leone Registered Linux user #201348 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 50453890 AIM: MikeLeone PGP Fingerprint: 0AA8 DC47 CB63 AE3F C739 6BF9 9AB4 1EF6 5AA5 BCDF PGP public key: http://www.mike-leone.com/~turgon/turgon-public-key.gpg Sometimes your lack of sympathy gets hard to explain, So on your mask of make-up you just paint a little parody of pain When you were young, Del Amitri signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable
Everyone is so hung up on free, that they spend time downloading an iso image from the internet, knowing that a single bit of data can cause the whole thing to go sour. Then they burn this image onto a CD, again where one little error makes the whole thing a mess. People, spend $5 and buy a couple CDs, make your life easier. You might find that all those problems just go away. Ron mike wrote: We are going nowhere. People are addicted to Windblows, they will experiment with Linux on a marginal box, and then, because it is so much better, move it to a more powerful box. If the marginal box part craps out, no powerful box for you... Microsloth wins. mg -- Ron Marriage Homepage http://www.seidata.com/~marriage/ Email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux User Group http://www.seidata.com/~seilug/ Blind Links http://www.seidata.com/~marriage/rblind.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] odd errors from /tmp
Hello During the instalation process I selected clean /tmp on boot but to my surprise on boot I have the following in /tmp. I noticed this as sometimes KDE gives an error such as You are not the owner of /tmp/mcop-jp seems rarther odd, anyone know whats going on? JG $ ls -alR /tmp .: total 4 drwxrwxrwt7 root root 216 Jan 9 11:24 ./ drwxr-xr-x 21 root root 560 Jan 6 20:01 ../ drwxrwxrwt2 xfs xfs72 Jan 9 11:23 .font-unix/ drwxrwxrwt2 root root 48 Jan 8 13:19 .ICE-unix/ drwx--2 jg jg 48 Jan 9 11:23 kde-jg/ drwx--2 jg jg 48 Jan 9 11:23 mcop-jg/ drwxrwxrwt2 root n 48 Jan 8 13:19 .X11-unix/ ./.font-unix: total 1 drwxrwxrwt2 xfs xfs72 Jan 9 11:23 ./ drwxrwxrwt7 root root 216 Jan 9 11:24 ../ srwxrwxrwx1 xfs xfs 0 Jan 9 11:23 fs-1= ./.ICE-unix: total 1 drwxrwxrwt2 root root 48 Jan 8 13:19 ./ drwxrwxrwt7 root root 216 Jan 9 11:24 ../ ./kde-jg: total 1 drwx--2 jg jg 48 Jan 9 11:23 ./ drwxrwxrwt7 root root 216 Jan 9 11:24 ../ ./mcop-jg: total 1 drwx--2 jg jg 48 Jan 9 11:23 ./ drwxrwxrwt7 root root 216 Jan 9 11:24 ../ ./.X11-unix: total 1 drwxrwxrwt2 root n 48 Jan 8 13:19 ./ drwxrwxrwt7 root root 216 Jan 9 11:24 ../ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable
Personally, and this is just me, I don't load a distro on my box unless I threw some coin (usually $60-$80) into the collection plate. On Tuesday 08 January 2002 22:25, Ron Marriage wrote: Everyone is so hung up on free, that they spend time downloading an iso image from the internet, knowing that a single bit of data can cause the whole thing to go sour. Then they burn this image onto a CD, again where one little error makes the whole thing a mess. People, spend $5 and buy a couple CDs, make your life easier. You might find that all those problems just go away. Ron mike wrote: We are going nowhere. People are addicted to Windblows, they will experiment with Linux on a marginal box, and then, because it is so much better, move it to a more powerful box. If the marginal box part craps out, no powerful box for you... Microsloth wins. mg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable
I agree, I order the power packs and always find them easy to install, no problem. I also feel better about myself. I don't support with code, so do so with dollars. Ron mike wrote: Personally, and this is just me, I don't load a distro on my box unless I threw some coin (usually $60-$80) into the collection plate. On Tuesday 08 January 2002 22:25, Ron Marriage wrote: Everyone is so hung up on free, that they spend time downloading an iso image from the internet, knowing that a single bit of data can cause the whole thing to go sour. Then they burn this image onto a CD, again where one little error makes the whole thing a mess. People, spend $5 and buy a couple CDs, make your life easier. You might find that all those problems just go away. Ron mike wrote: We are going nowhere. People are addicted to Windblows, they will experiment with Linux on a marginal box, and then, because it is so much better, move it to a more powerful box. If the marginal box part craps out, no powerful box for you... Microsloth wins. mg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Ron Marriage Homepage http://www.seidata.com/~marriage/ Email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux User Group http://www.seidata.com/~seilug/ Blind Links http://www.seidata.com/~marriage/rblind.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable
I posted earlier, and just wish to mention, that in all fairness, some people will have issues which will be unresolveable, despite buying a distro, having New hardware and having some experience with Linux. I have always paid for a boxed set including mandrake 7.0, 7.1, 7.2, 8.0, and 8.1, as well as a dozen other distros including suse and redhat. I await 8.2 as I could not successfully install 8.1 on a new MB/ 1000 Mhz athlon New Hard drive / Mem/ etc. Otherwise , why would people repeatedly say your mileage may vary on so many things. Don't misunderstand, I am an almost exclusive Mandrake man Period ! Only keep the windows junk on a seperate box for One application which Will never run in linux. ( No it really never will ) Mandrake Is absoulutely awesome, and The best of the pack, however it's not perfect yet, nor does it work with all hardware configurations out here- Yet ;-) I really wanted to install 8.1 but it simply was too flaky to keep. Yes support Linux ( esp. Mandrake! ) by all means Pay for cd's that will help. But let's be candid and and admit we are all waiting for a distro with everything that's just right, otherwise we would not upgrade. end of rant. Mike McNeese Springdale Arkansas USA Linus user # 248955 - If obstacles are all you see, you have lost sight of the goal! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] DHCP configuration to improve detection on dynamic IP
Hi Dave, Thanks for your response. At 08:12 AM 1/8/2002 -0600, you wrote: Forgive me for sounding obtuse, but I am not sure what you are asking. Perhaps you could rephrase the question? I need to accelerate the detection of the dynamic IP address of my ISP's DNS server at boot. I tried several attempts without success. I wonder whether by reconfiguring DHCP of my PC could achieve my purpose Thanks B.R. Stephen Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Network setup with MCC.
Michael Leone wrote: On Tue, 2002-01-08 at 18:18, J. Craig Woods wrote: Well, if at all possible, let us try to keep those kind of questions, questions about beginners needing GUI tools, on the beginners list, and at least *fake* a semblance to this being an expert list. It's the experts who make the GUIs for the beginners. And this might be one way for the experts to learn what newbies want/need. Most of those experts also watch the newbie list. Probably the best place for newbie questions, is on the newbie list. JMHO -- Ric Tibbetts Linux registration number: 55684 If you want to help advertise Linux - point your friends to http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Network setup with MCC.
Ric Tibbetts wrote: Ken Thompson wrote: Am I missing something??? I don't find a way with MCC to export or mount file systems on other computers in the network. I have to go to linuxconf to do this. I seem to remember in 8.0 there was a dialog for exporting and mounting. Forget the GUI's. Spend a (very) little time, and learn the format of /etc/exports (for exporting filesystems), and mount (with /etc/fstab) for mounting them. Then you won't be married to those silly GUIs. ;) PS: Just for the record: I still get stuck from time to time too, and bring my questions here. It's a great forum! I just personally feel that any question starting with, or containing the phrase: When I click on the GUI . . . should be in the newbie list. This is an expert list. We should all know how to run linux without a gui. JMHO -- Ric Tibbetts Unix Systems Administration Linux registration number: 55684 If you want to help advertise Linux - point your friends to http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable
I am running Mandrake 8.1, the Download Edition, which I ordered from EverythingLInux (http://www.everythinglinux.com.au) on pressed CD's. It works outstandingly well. :) Kindest Regards, Ashley (aka ze0). |--| | Ashley Reynolds (aka ze0)[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.botepidemic.com Ph: +61 404 140 163 | | | | Registered Linux User: #254073 | |--| On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, Mark D'voo wrote: i think there was a problem with the download edition, I have downloaded it 3 times for 3 different computers, on each computer is was slooow and very unstable ( i was lucky to have a 1 day uptime ). I think we should take a vote to figure out what is wrong, Tell me if 8.1 is giving you problems or working great and was it the download edition, powerpack, gaming, etc? mark On Wednesday 09 January 2002 07:16 am, you wrote: We are going nowhere. People are addicted to Windblows, they will experiment with Linux on a marginal box, and then, because it is so much better, move it to a more powerful box. If the marginal box part craps out, no powerful box for you... Microsloth wins. mg On Monday 07 January 2002 23:18, Michael Leone wrote: On Mon, 2002-01-07 at 23:03, mike wrote: One of the virtues of Linux over Windblows was that the hardware requiremtns were less stringent, no? There's a difference between less stringent and marginal. mg On Monday 07 January 2002 22:37, Michael Leone wrote: On Mon, 2002-01-07 at 16:52, Davor Cengija wrote: So, concensus would be that I have some hardware related problems, which is quite unusual since Mdk 7.2 worked just fine without any problem. Not necessarily PROBLEMS; just that Mdk 8.1 is more STRICT, and won't tolerate (perhaps) marginal hardware, and 7.2 will. Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- 7:43pm up 6:14, 2 users, load average: 0.44, 0.28, 0.20 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] problem compiling driver for RealTek 8139C
X-RebelTech Is Here: http://www.rebeltech.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hi all, i currently have a 10/100 ethernet card which uses the rtl8139C chipset. i have it mostly working on the 8139too driver, but it is somewhat flaky. the card came with a version of rtl8139, but source only and i can't compile it. the instructions told me to ./ a file called trans. i did this after setting the correct permissions. this is a type of batch file which runs gcc with some options. the compiler throws this error which has me stumped: In file included from rtl8139.c:70: /usr/include/linux/modversions.h:1:2: #error Modules should never use kernel-headers system headers, /usr/include/linux/modversions.h:2:2: #error but headers from an appropriate kernel-source what exactly is this telling me? and how do i fix it so i can compile it? i am running LM8.0 2.4.3-20mdksmp kernel. i have all the devel packages and the kernel source packages installed. i also found on sourceforge an updated version of the 8139too driver which may fix my flakiness problems but i can't compile that one either. any direction to proceed would be much appreciated. moose. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
