[expert] extending XINE on 8.2
After installing one of the 8.2 betas I attempted to install some addons for xine - so I could watch encrypted dvd's, however the files could not find xine-config, and I wondered what could be done about this? I am assuming the same will be the case in 8.2 (currently on it's way down) - could anyone help? Many thanks, -- Azrael (\''/).___..--'''-._ `0_ O ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' .' ((i).-'' ((i).' (((.-' Of all God's creatures there is only one that cannot be made the slave of the lash. That one is the cat. If man could be crossed with a cat it would improve man, but it would deteriorate the cat. ICQ#52944566 _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SSH Tunelling
Tom Badran wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have two ssh tunnels that are run in my .bashrc file so that i can have secure pop/smtp. The system works great, but it does have one setback, each time i open a new terminal (which obviously runs bash) i get more and more ssh processes running. How can i set this up so that the tunnels are only setup if they need to be? Is there a way to make the ssh command run only if the tunnels do not exist? I read somewhere that you can add tunnels to the .ssh/config file but i have found no documentation detailing this. This is script what I use to start a ssh-agent (script placed in /etc/profile.d) to hold (even between different login sessions) any keys I load. I had to hack some X startup script to load /etc/profile.d because it's not done by default. The script works fine for me as I am the only physical user of my computer with several accounts. On a real multiuser machine both you and root user can acces keys loaded to your agent. There may be similar problem with SSH tunnels. Hope this helps. #!/bin/bash agentinfo=$HOME/.ssh-agent-info minuser=500 if [ $EUID -lt $minuser ] ; then return ; fi if [ $SSH_AUTH_SOCK ] ssh-add -l 2/dev/null; then set +x return ; fi if [ -s $agentinfo ] ; then . $agentinfo if ps -A | grep $SSH_AGENT_PID /dev/null \ [ -e $SSH_AUTH_SOCK ] ; then if ssh-add -l 2/dev/null; then set +x return ; else rm -f $SSH_AUTH_SOCK ; fi fi fi ssh-agent $agentinfo . $agentinfo unset agentinfo minuser Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Harddrake doesn't work in 8.2
On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 19:59:36 -0600 Lorne Shantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: |Weird. It must be somehow related to the hardware.??? I'm using an |older Intel mb and cpu with 128mb ram. Nothing fancy and I am |running 8.2rc1 with no issue like you are seeing. I dunno man. Good |luck... Especially weird since it has worked fine in all earlier versions of Mandrake 8.x. Actually, in Beta 3 I did get an error message telling me to re-install harddrake when I tried to run it. Not that it worked, but at least it let me know it was alive. Now I do not even get that. I am running an Acer 340T laptop which has been very Linux friendly (even the built in win-modem works). | | -- Christian Dysthe http://www.dysthe.net ICQ: 3945810 Registered Linux User #228949 Everybody ought to have a Lower East Side in their life -Irving Berlin- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Corrupted filesystem after normal shutdown
really, no matter what slot the nic is in and was the vid AGP or PCI and what slot was it in? On Tuesday 19 March 2002 20:25, you wrote: Just the one drive on tha first channel, CD ZIP on second channel. I think I just have a flaky MoBo, even the new one won't run 98SE with the NIC and the Matrox vid without locking up. Take either one out and it's fine in winderz. Runs much better in mdk8.1 I'm testing 8.2 right now using an 18Gb Samsung, an ATI all in wonder AGP 8Mb vid and 3Com NIC, so far, so good. On Tuesday 19 March 2002 11:32 am, you wrote: when you changed the cable did you have one drive on each cable or more than one drive on each IDE channel? On Tuesday 19 March 2002 12:48, you wrote: In my case, I've changed cables (used both 40 80 pin), changed memory, video, NIC, HDD and the only thing I haven't tried is disabling the onboard sound and using a PCI sound card. On Monday 18 March 2002 10:33 pm, you wrote: One more thing you might want to check/replace... the ribbon cables. I've had some in the past that with a slight bump would make the data on the drive APEAR corrupt even though the corruption was in the data transfer not the drive. Then when I'd try to fsck it... ooops. Since then if it's mission critical I've found that light twisting and pulling (Note I said light) to check connection quality has saved me a ton of headaches. Did you change cables when you changed drives? A good way to check if you can is when a drive seems to be bad, pop it in another box and see what happens. Many a time it's tested good on another box and my problems were cables first ram second. James On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 16:57:08 + Nick Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I heard a funny story once. A couple of workers from a big nameless company where woking on (WindBlows) laptops on an American Airlines flight. Started out fine, but after a few hours things started to go wrong and eventually both PCs came down in a heap and wouldn't reboot. It turned out that there where magnets in the tray tables, designed to stop them rattling during flight. As the disks whirred round, they where slowly erasing themselves. Unless your have a chassis speaker close to your drives, I doubt that this is your problem, but who knows... Nick. Ken Thompson wrote: On Monday 18 March 2002 03:36 am, you wrote: Hi everyone, I got a tremendous problem here. I shut down my MDK8.1 perfectly, but when I restarted it, it says I have a corrupted filesystem that needs to be checked. Sometimes the checking doesn't pass and I have to do fsck in maintenance. This time the rc.d files are corrupted and I can't start at all anymore. Well, I know I could just install again from scratch, but the trick is, this happened on MDK8.0, then on MDK8.1. I thought the HD was getting old, so I installed it on a totally new one. After a couple weeks, there I am again. I've had nearly the same problem and have found no solution yet. AMD Athalon 1.2GHZ 512 RAM Epox 8KTA3+ Matrox millineum 450 LinkSys NIC Onboard sound USR Hardware modem V.92 I've had the mainboard warranteed and have changed out memory, HDD, Video and NIC cards. I still get a slow data corruption and end up having to re-install to clean it up. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Full - duplex Real Tek 8139
Hello, I need to desing a net for tests. In this net I must guarantee that my network card work as Full-duplex mode at 10BaseT My networking card is realtek 8139, my SO Mandrake 8.1 Anybody has a ideia how can I set up these parameter? And how can I measure this parameter? Thank's Marcelo. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Harddrake doesn't work in 8.2
On Wednesday 20 March 2002 06:53 am, you wrote: On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 19:59:36 -0600 Lorne Shantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: |Weird. It must be somehow related to the hardware.??? I'm using an |older Intel mb and cpu with 128mb ram. Nothing fancy and I am |running 8.2rc1 with no issue like you are seeing. I dunno man. Good |luck... Especially weird since it has worked fine in all earlier versions of Mandrake 8.x. Actually, in Beta 3 I did get an error message telling me to re-install harddrake when I tried to run it. Not that it worked, but at least it let me know it was alive. Now I do not even get that. I am running an Acer 340T laptop which has been very Linux friendly (even the built in win-modem works). | They DID break some things in the beta. I run SCSI and several of the betas I couldn't even install. At all! I see quite a few broken things. Hopefully even though they don't respond to bug reports, I sure hope they are doing something about them. :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What would cause system to just stop?
On Tuesday 19 March 2002 10:36 pm, David Guntner wrote: Unfortunately, krellm doesn't seem to display my CPU temprature, so I'm not sure how I'm going to monitor it. BTW, just so you're aware of it, my Linux machine (ML 8.1) is *never* powered off unless I'm having to get inside the case to connect/disconnect something. So the temprature should be staying pretty stable inside. Type 'sensors' in a term. You should see somethin like SYS Temp: +28.8°C (limit = +60°C, hysteresis = +50°C) CPU Temp: +44.0°C (limit = +60°C, hysteresis = +50°C) SBr Temp: +23.2°C (limit = +60°C, hysteresis = +50°C) There maybe numbers associated, eg, temp 1, temp2, etc. In my example cpu temp is number 2. In Gkrellm's configuration, under Builtins | Sensors, you would type 'cpu' (w/o the quotes) in the second line under 'Sensor Label'. Cpu temp should then be reported. Gkrellm can be configured to show temps in C or F, but sensors and most everybody else uses Celsius. FWIW, I disable all other reporting and size Gkrellm so that it's about 1/4 high, 1 long, showing just cpu temp. It also still shows a little cpu load gauge on top of the temp. Then I put it up on the top of the screen over to the right side. Just fits on window title bars. Then I have this file in /home/tom/.kde/Autostart #!/bin/bash /usr/bin/kstart --skiptaskbar --ontop --alldesktops /usr/X11R6/bin/gkrellm(last two lines are all one line) I named it 'sensors-start', 'chmod +x'd it to make it executable. Then Gkrellm starts with KDE on all desktops, always on top, with no entry on the panel. Well, maybe you can get the info somewhere, but it should be on their site. FWIW, my 1.4/266 Tbird is spec'd at 95C, but the 1.4 is also the hottest cpu AMD makes. Your K6 should be lower, 80C, maybe 85C is probly a decent guess on the high end, but it could be in the 70's. At least when I reboot to look at it in the BIOS, it's well below that. Should be about 30C lower. Just to repeat what I said before. The bios temp is all but useless. Also, for AMD cpu's, the temp is from an external probe in contact with the cpu die, or measured from a pin. It is always 10 to 20C less than the actual core temp, could be as much as 30C less. Newer XP's have (like Intel has had for a long time) an internal diode to get an accurate core temp. But even for the XP's, I don't believe there's any motherboards out yet which support obtaining the diode temp. I'll put it this way, measuring the core temp of a AMD cpu usin an external probe is like trying to get the temperature of the wires inside a wall by pressing a thermometer against the plaster. Still keeping in mind to add at least 20C, it's at least a relative gauge of whether or not the core is running too hot. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] quotas ?
Dear Experts ... I have exported a File System from a Sun WS to my linux computer ... On the remote machine, the quota feature is enabled for this file system ... How I can set up the same quotas on my local machine ? Does exist special options when I mount the filesystem...? The mount options for a nfs file system don't support the usrquota mount option Any idea ? rodrigo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Dual athlon problem with kernel 2.2
I would be interested if anybody has a solution to this as well. This configuration (2xAthMP Asus A7M-D) is exactly what I am considering building in the next week or so. One thing I did read a while ago was a bug with AMD's handling of the AGP; something to do with 4kB/4MB mapping? The usual configuration (ie intel) assumed that 4MB blocks where being used, but AMD was still using the original 4kB ones. ...this is OTOH, I think a kernal patch was discussed at the time (about a month or two back). Si. simon watts. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Printing borked in 8.2
I tried using the printer config menu from the control system menu. It detects my printer and everything, and then just hangs, never completing its operation by actually setting up the printer. I have a Lexmark Optra that I want to set up as a vanilla Postscript printer. So (Forgive me on this as Im more of a FreeBSD expert) I went and installed apsfilter. It put a spool file in /var/spool/lpd for lp, and then modified princap. But when I try to print using lpr I get an error message telling me there is no printer at name@localhost. Is there a config file somewhere that Im missing? I started up lpd. Thanks, Rob. -- - The Numeric Python EM Project www.pythonemproject.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Dual athlon problem with kernel 2.2
I haven't the opportunity to meet a dual mobo AMD yet. However I've been so dissapointed with last Asus mobo in general that I wouldn't recommed it. I suggest you a MSI or a Soyo solution (when available, after feedback of course). Tyan has problems too, but it was the first one, so maybe people know it better. On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Simon A Watts wrote: I would be interested if anybody has a solution to this as well. This configuration (2xAthMP Asus A7M-D) is exactly what I am considering building in the next week or so. One thing I did read a while ago was a bug with AMD's handling of the AGP; something to do with 4kB/4MB mapping? The usual configuration (ie intel) assumed that 4MB blocks where being used, but AMD was still using the original 4kB ones. ...this is OTOH, I think a kernal patch was discussed at the time (about a month or two back). Si. simon watts. -- --- Alan Wilter S. da Silva --- Laboratório de Física Biológica Instituto de Biofísica Carlos Chagas Filho Universidade do Brasil/UFRJ Rio de Janeiro, Brasil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What would cause system to just stop?
On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, James wrote: On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 20:36:36 -0800 (PST) David Guntner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Brinkman grabbed a keyboard and wrote: On Tuesday 19 March 2002 13:13, David Guntner wrote: I went to AMD's site, and while I could find a PDF document titled AMD-K6- 2 Processor Data Sheet, the Thermal Design section only says that it's supposed to run with a case temprature within a certain range. They also don't mention the 550MHz chip. Well, maybe you can get the info somewhere, but it should be on their site. FWIW, my 1.4/266 Tbird is spec'd at 95C, but the 1.4 is also the hottest cpu AMD makes. Your K6 should be lower, 80C, maybe 85C is probly a decent guess on the high end, but it could be in the 70's. At least when I reboot to look at it in the BIOS, it's well below that. I'll keep looking, but if it isn't in the Themal Design section of the Processor Data Sheet, I'm kind-of at a loss for where to look... :-) Thanks again for all the information and suggestions. --Dave Dave when you switched CPU's did you use the same fan? If it isn't moving enough air it would cause them both to do the same thing. Having run a lot of k-6's from 300 - 500 mhz I've found that ideal temp for the stock fan is about 50 celcius and with a high end fan you can get down to about 42 to 45 (it improves benchmarks ever so slightly) under normal load. James I have a 450MHz K6 cpu in my tower box. I use to leave it running all the time; however, as time went on it windows 98 crashed constantly. After reinstalling windows several times, I installed a dual boot Linux. I use Linux almost exclusively now, because everytime I reinstall Windows it crashes after a couple of days... to the severity of where it is easier to reinstall windows, than it is diagnose the fix the problem. Anyways, if I leave my computer on constantly, it freezes after 20 hours or so, even running Linux; however, I can fix Linux by running fsck. As a result of all this I turn my computer off each night, so it usually only runs 16 to 18 hours a day. Doing this I don't seem to have problems, at least with Linux. After several years of repairing Minicomputer to the actual bad logic gate, I have no desired to do that again. So my question is can any recommend a good reliable fan, without getting into the engineering specs, that will let me run trouble free. Thanks, John PS. If it does run trouble free, I promise...I won't go back to using windows. :-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Corrupted filesystem after normal shutdown
I'll have to admit to having a temper tantrum about that time and didn't do a total and complete swap out. Winderz always get's me ire up G. On Wednesday 20 March 2002 05:29 am, you wrote: really, no matter what slot the nic is in and was the vid AGP or PCI and what slot was it in? On Tuesday 19 March 2002 20:25, you wrote: Just the one drive on tha first channel, CD ZIP on second channel. I think I just have a flaky MoBo, even the new one won't run 98SE with the NIC and the Matrox vid without locking up. Take either one out and it's fine in winderz. Runs much better in mdk8.1 I'm testing 8.2 right now using an 18Gb Samsung, an ATI all in wonder AGP 8Mb vid and 3Com NIC, so far, so good. On Tuesday 19 March 2002 11:32 am, you wrote: when you changed the cable did you have one drive on each cable or more than one drive on each IDE channel? On Tuesday 19 March 2002 12:48, you wrote: In my case, I've changed cables (used both 40 80 pin), changed memory, video, NIC, HDD and the only thing I haven't tried is disabling the onboard sound and using a PCI sound card. On Monday 18 March 2002 10:33 pm, you wrote: One more thing you might want to check/replace... the ribbon cables. I've had some in the past that with a slight bump would make the data on the drive APEAR corrupt even though the corruption was in the data transfer not the drive. Then when I'd try to fsck it... ooops. Since then if it's mission critical I've found that light twisting and pulling (Note I said light) to check connection quality has saved me a ton of headaches. Did you change cables when you changed drives? A good way to check if you can is when a drive seems to be bad, pop it in another box and see what happens. Many a time it's tested good on another box and my problems were cables first ram second. James On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 16:57:08 + Nick Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I heard a funny story once. A couple of workers from a big nameless company where woking on (WindBlows) laptops on an American Airlines flight. Started out fine, but after a few hours things started to go wrong and eventually both PCs came down in a heap and wouldn't reboot. It turned out that there where magnets in the tray tables, designed to stop them rattling during flight. As the disks whirred round, they where slowly erasing themselves. Unless your have a chassis speaker close to your drives, I doubt that this is your problem, but who knows... Nick. Ken Thompson wrote: On Monday 18 March 2002 03:36 am, you wrote: Hi everyone, I got a tremendous problem here. I shut down my MDK8.1 perfectly, but when I restarted it, it says I have a corrupted filesystem that needs to be checked. Sometimes the checking doesn't pass and I have to do fsck in maintenance. This time the rc.d files are corrupted and I can't start at all anymore. Well, I know I could just install again from scratch, but the trick is, this happened on MDK8.0, then on MDK8.1. I thought the HD was getting old, so I installed it on a totally new one. After a couple weeks, there I am again. I've had nearly the same problem and have found no solution yet. AMD Athalon 1.2GHZ 512 RAM Epox 8KTA3+ Matrox millineum 450 LinkSys NIC Onboard sound USR Hardware modem V.92 I've had the mainboard warranteed and have changed out memory, HDD, Video and NIC cards. I still get a slow data corruption and end up having to re-install to clean it up. -- Ken Thompson, North West Antique Autos Payette, Idaho Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nwaa.com Sales and brokering of antique autos and parts. Linux- Coming Soon To A Desktop Near You Registered Linux User #183936 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Is there a rpm for oracle in php 4.0.6 for Mandrake?
I'm trying to have php work with oracle on my Mandrake 8.0. I have reinstalled php 4.0.6-3.2mdk using software manager. I can only fine php-mysql and php-pgsql packages with mdk. Is there a package that will work with oracle? My apache right now is 1.3.22-1.2mdk. Yu-Hsin Chen Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What would cause system to just stop?
Tom Brinkman grabbed a keyboard and wrote: Type 'sensors' in a term. You should see somethin like SYS Temp: +28.8°C (limit = +60°C, hysteresis = +50°C) CPU Temp: +44.0°C (limit = +60°C, hysteresis = +50°C) SBr Temp: +23.2°C (limit = +60°C, hysteresis = +50°C) There maybe numbers associated, eg, temp 1, temp2, etc. In my example cpu temp is number 2. I think whatever this program needs is not available with the motherboard that I'm using. I typed sensors, and then when I ran it a second time after I did a modprobe i2c-proc in response to the first attempt's complaining about it (oops :), it reported No sensors found! So, whatever it's expecting to be on my motherboard for that program to interface with, doesn't seem to be there. In Gkrellm's configuration, under Builtins | Sensors, you would type 'cpu' (w/o the quotes) in the second line under 'Sensor Label'. Cpu temp should then be reported. Gkrellm can be configured to show temps in C or F, but sensors and most everybody else uses Celsius. Unfortunately, gkrellm's configuration on my machine has no sensors under Builtins. I'm guessing that's due to whatever caused the sensors program to report that there aren't any. At least when I reboot to look at it in the BIOS, it's well below that. Should be about 30C lower. Just to repeat what I said before. The bios temp is all but useless. Also, for AMD cpu's, the temp is from an external probe in contact with the cpu die, or measured from a pin. It is always 10 to 20C less than the actual core temp, could be as much as 30C less. I accept what you're saying about BIOS temps, but it seems to be the only thing I have available to me with this motherboard. FWIW, my Linux system has been running all night, and I just did some things with it (which would bring the load up a little bit), and then rebooted to get into the BIOS setup to look at the reading. It's currently showing 39 degrees C (102 F), which is 30 degrees below the number(s) you reported previously. So I don't think it's a CPU temp issue. Also (in case you missed in in one of my earlier messages), when this problem started, I took out the 550MHz CPU I had in there at the time and fell back to my old 350MHz CPU, to see if it *was* the CPU. The problem continued even after swapping out CPUs. BTW, you make a big deal out of the BIOS reported temprature not being worth much (which I accept), but then go on to recommend these sensor programs (which apparently don't work with my motherboard :). Aren't *they* just pulling numbers from the BIOS? I'm just asking because I've gotten the impression that you think those are more accurate, and if that's the case, I'm curious as to how since it seems like they'd still be getting the same bad numbers that the BIOS setup page would be reporting One (new) thing of note: Last night when I got home from work, I shut down the machine and reseated all three DIMM modules. After doing that, my machine refused to start at all. Well, one time it started to boot and then just hung in the middle of the boot - after that, I couldn't get the machine to do *anything* when powered on (or just the reset button pushed). I started pulling DIMMs one at a time and found that when one particular DIMM is in the system, it won't start. When it's out, the machine will come up fine. (And yes, I moved one of the other modules to the slot that the troublemaker was in, to make sure it wasn't the slot. :) So, either I managed to fry that DIMM when I was reseating it, or that module was doing a slow die on me and it finally just gave up the ghost. A few days of running the machine should give me an idea - this last week I haven't been able to get the machine to stay up for more than 48 hours without locking up. If it runs for a week, I'm going to chalk it up to problem solved and go buy another DIMM to replace it. Well, actually, if it stays up a week, I'm putting the 550MHz chip back in first and then run it for another week. :-) Again, thanks for all the information. It has been most interesting. --Dave -- David Guntner GEnie: Just say NO! http://www.akaMail.com/pgpkey/davidg or key server for PGP Public key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What would cause system to just stop?
JOHN HEMMER wrote: On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, James wrote: On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 20:36:36 -0800 (PST) David Guntner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Brinkman grabbed a keyboard and wrote: On Tuesday 19 March 2002 13:13, David Guntner wrote: I went to AMD's site, and while I could find a PDF document titled AMD-K6- 2 Processor Data Sheet, the Thermal Design section only says that it's supposed to run with a case temprature within a certain range. They also don't mention the 550MHz chip. Well, maybe you can get the info somewhere, but it should be on their site. FWIW, my 1.4/266 Tbird is spec'd at 95C, but the 1.4 is also the hottest cpu AMD makes. Your K6 should be lower, 80C, maybe 85C is probly a decent guess on the high end, but it could be in the 70's. At least when I reboot to look at it in the BIOS, it's well below that. I'll keep looking, but if it isn't in the Themal Design section of the Processor Data Sheet, I'm kind-of at a loss for where to look... :-) Thanks again for all the information and suggestions. --Dave Dave when you switched CPU's did you use the same fan? If it isn't moving enough air it would cause them both to do the same thing. Having run a lot of k-6's from 300 - 500 mhz I've found that ideal temp for the stock fan is about 50 celcius and with a high end fan you can get down to about 42 to 45 (it improves benchmarks ever so slightly) under normal load. James I have a 450MHz K6 cpu in my tower box. I use to leave it running all the time; however, as time went on it windows 98 crashed constantly. After reinstalling windows several times, I installed a dual boot Linux. I use Linux almost exclusively now, because everytime I reinstall Windows it crashes after a couple of days... to the severity of where it is easier to reinstall windows, than it is diagnose the fix the problem. Anyways, if I leave my computer on constantly, it freezes after 20 hours or so, even running Linux; however, I can fix Linux by running fsck. As a result of all this I turn my computer off each night, so it usually only runs 16 to 18 hours a day. Doing this I don't seem to have problems, at least with Linux. After several years of repairing Minicomputer to the actual bad logic gate, I have no desired to do that again. So my question is can any recommend a good reliable fan, without getting into the engineering specs, that will let me run trouble free. Well there's quite number. Here is a recommendation. Vantec CCK-6027D, has a copper base and cost abt. $15.00-$18.00. Use with Artic Silver 3 thermal compound. You are aware that the problem may be in your power supply or the motherboard? All those resistors and caps may eventually break down and cause the type problems your are experiencing. I recently spent 2 weeks working on a similar system with this problem, during this period of torturing the system the mb failed. Had another system where the power supply would not supply the correct power after about 20 hours running, eventually the failure time got shorter and shorter and starting failing after only 6 hours. Good luck in isolating the cause. Larry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] ORBZ spam blockers shutting down
Wow, this is really sad news. ORBZ, the open mail relay checking system, is shutting down. http://derf.cc/orbz_shutdown.txt Bob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ORBZ spam blockers shutting down
On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 15:11:43 -0500 Bob Puff@NLE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, this is really sad news. ORBZ, the open mail relay checking system, is shutting down. http://derf.cc/orbz_shutdown.txt I thought it was down for some time now... I even noted this on my http://pfortin.com/PostFix/ page... At least, http://ordb.org is still there... Pierre Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Hostname - alias
OK, I have always been stuck with either localhost or whatever name my dhcp server gives me (today I am d152-159). I would LIKE to give myself an alias of my choice but every time I've made any moves in that direction, it borks my system. KDE chokes and cannot connect to itself anymore, no new konsoles, inability to contact my mail provider, and other sorts of networking-related pain. All I did was set my alias using linuxconf! An ALIAS dorks networking and the system?! Doing a man hostname doesn't give me anything useful. I try hostname -a my desired alias and it returns nothing but a blank line. I edit /etc/hosts and try to add/change the alias there. No good (and its gone next startup). What is the magic trick to naming my system whatever I want to? praedor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Printing borked in 8.2
Rob wrote: I tried using the printer config menu from the control system menu. It detects my printer and everything, and then just hangs, never completing its operation by actually setting up the printer. I have a Lexmark Optra that I want to set up as a vanilla Postscript printer. So (Forgive me on this as Im more of a FreeBSD expert) I went and installed apsfilter. It put a spool file in /var/spool/lpd for lp, and then modified princap. But when I try to print using lpr I get an error message telling me there is no printer at name@localhost. Is there a config file somewhere that Im missing? I started up lpd. Thanks, Rob. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Sorry, fellow, there are three printing systems offered, LPRng, CUPS, and PDQ. lpd is OUT. Putting it in is likely to break things. It sounds more like there was a corrupted file during install than anything else. We have tested printing thoroughly with 8.2. Did you try # printerdrake as root? That should have resolved your problems. We also have drivers for most winprinters, but no proprietary drivers. Those come only with the commercial CDs. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What would cause system to just stop?
David Guntner wrote: Tom Brinkman grabbed a keyboard and wrote: Type 'sensors' in a term. You should see somethin like SYS Temp: +28.8°C (limit = +60°C, hysteresis = +50°C) CPU Temp: +44.0°C (limit = +60°C, hysteresis = +50°C) SBr Temp: +23.2°C (limit = +60°C, hysteresis = +50°C) There maybe numbers associated, eg, temp 1, temp2, etc. In my example cpu temp is number 2. I think whatever this program needs is not available with the motherboard that I'm using. I typed sensors, and then when I ran it a second time after I did a modprobe i2c-proc in response to the first attempt's complaining about it (oops :), it reported No sensors found! So, whatever it's expecting to be on my motherboard for that program to interface with, doesn't seem to be there. Do you need to run 'sensors -s' before you run sensors? I am very new at sensors, but I think that is what I had to do! HTH Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Core Dump at powerdown using 8.2 rc1
Hi, Just before my system should power down I receive a core dump on my console. This seems to repeat over and over until I shut the power off. I am too dumb to know if this is also written to my hard drive, but here is the last few lines of my syslog: Mar 18 20:59:32 rabbit alsa: succeeded Mar 18 20:59:32 rabbit alsa: ^[[65G[^[[1;32m Mar 18 20:59:32 rabbit alsa: Mar 18 20:59:32 rabbit rc: Stopping alsa: succeeded Mar 18 20:59:32 rabbit apmd[1092]: Exiting Mar 18 20:59:32 rabbit apmd: apmd shutdown succeeded Mar 18 20:59:32 rabbit dd: 1+0 records in Mar 18 20:59:32 rabbit dd: 1+0 records out Mar 18 20:59:32 rabbit random: Saving random seed: succeeded Mar 18 20:59:32 rabbit rpc.statd[990]: Caught signal 15, un-registering and exiting. Mar 18 20:59:33 rabbit nfslock: rpc.statd shutdown succeeded Mar 18 20:59:33 rabbit kernel: Kernel logging (proc) stopped. Mar 18 20:59:33 rabbit kernel: Kernel log daemon terminating. Mar 18 20:59:34 rabbit exiting on signal 15 u I am running 8.2 rc1 on a Soyo K7ADA which has the ALI MAGiK1 chipset. The reboot option works OK, this only fails when I try to halt the system. TIA for any advice, Roger Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] AHA-2940UW under mandrake 8.2
Hallo i were try to isntall new mandrake 8.2. I never use other linux at that machine and i got this problem. I have only SCSI devices, so boot comes up, then he try to detect scsi. he identify my 2940 as 7881 and then become black screen, numlock not work, its dead. when i try other drivers from yours CD(7xxx) it do same. i tested 2.4.18,2.4.14 AHA 2940 had 2 firmwares 1st were 2.57.? second 2.20.0 any idea how could i solve this ? regards tomas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to install 8.2 with USB devices
I have a keyboard mouse, both usb. The mouse is plugged into the keyboard, the KB is plugged into the tower. I posted this on the Newbie list, but not many helpful answers. :) Thought I'd ask the Experts here. :) What basically happens is that if I boot the CD, i get that screen Hit F1 for options, Enter to go on. Fine my KB works at this point. As soon as I enter the next stage, it doesn't. Neither does the mouse. This worked fine in 8.0 8.1. So i'm stumped. I *can* install them as PS/2 but...why would I want to switch them to a protocol I dislike? Plus I dualboot with Win2k. They are usb work fine there. Help? TIA Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: Re: [expert] Printing borked in 8.2
Sorry, fellow, there are three printing systems offered, LPRng, CUPS, and PDQ. lpd is OUT. Putting it in is likely to break things. It sounds more like there was a corrupted file during install than anything else. We have tested printing thoroughly with 8.2. Did you try # printerdrake as root? That should have resolved your problems. We also have drivers for most winprinters, but no proprietary drivers. Those come only with the commercial CDs. Civileme *Excuse me*, but I did not install lpd. I am using LPRng. And I was root while using printdrake. I will try reinstalling the relevant files, though. thanks, Rob. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Hostname - alias
[Wed, 20 Mar 2002, 13:25:17 -0700 1.2K] Praedor Tempus wrote (edited): % All I did was set my alias using linuxconf! An ALIAS dorks networking % and the system?! % Doing a man hostname doesn't give me anything useful. I try % hostname -a my desired alias and it returns nothing but a blank % line. I edit /etc/hosts and try to add/change the alias there. No % good (and its gone next startup). What is the magic trick to naming % my system whatever I want to? % % praedor % ---end of quote--- I connect to my cable Internet using DHCP method and using their workstation identification, but it is no problem setting my own alias using linuxconf. It is permanent, no matter how many times I restart my machine. However, once in a time I get strange condition where anything is failed to identify my system; X started after a longer hostname checking and MTA is unable to deliver to local user(s). The solution was adding a new line in my /etc/hosts with my own alias and using the same IP with localhost.localdomain. 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost 127.0.0.1 alias.domainalias -- amal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Hostname - alias
On Wed, 2002-03-20 at 14:25, Praedor Tempus wrote: OK, I have always been stuck with either localhost or whatever name my dhcp server gives me (today I am d152-159). I would LIKE to give myself an alias of my choice but every time I've made any moves in that direction, it borks my system. KDE chokes and cannot connect to itself anymore, no new konsoles, inability to contact my mail provider, and other sorts of networking-related pain. All I did was set my alias using linuxconf! An ALIAS dorks networking and the system?! Doing a man hostname doesn't give me anything useful. I try hostname -a my desired alias and it returns nothing but a blank line. I edit /etc/hosts and try to add/change the alias there. No good (and its gone next startup). What is the magic trick to naming my system whatever I want to? The startup script checks for a 'localhost' entry in /etc/hosts, so you need to leave that there and simply add your preferred hostname on a second line. Try something like this: [dave@dedannshae dave]$ cat /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost 127.0.0.1 dedannshae.thuria.org dedannshae [dave@dedannshae dave]$ Works great on my system, using dhcp at home and work (it's a laptop). -- Dave Sherman Beware the wrath of dragons, MCSE, MCSA, CCNAfor you are crunchy, and good with ketchup. lynx -source http://sildara.dyndns.org/davepub.key | gpg --import signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
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Hello experts, Last evening I installed MD8.2, and reformatted my / and /usr partitions as xfs. Now, just about everything seems to be running slower than MD8.1 on ext3 partitions. Did I smoke too much grass in my younger years or is this a reality? Is there something I maybe did wrong? Is there a check of some type that I could perform to test this? What could be causing this? confused Dave -- °°° Mandrake Linux 8.1 Kernel 2.4.8-26mdk KDE 2.2.1 Sylpheed 0.7.2 David L. Steiner Registered Linux User #262493 Homepagewww.davidlsteiner.com Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] AHA-2940UW under mandrake 8.2
Charvt Tom wrote: Hallo i were try to isntall new mandrake 8.2. I never use other linux at that machine and i got this problem. I have only SCSI devices, so boot comes up, then he try to detect scsi. he identify my 2940 as 7881 and then become black screen, numlock not work, its dead. when i try other drivers from yours CD(7xxx) it do same. i tested 2.4.18,2.4.14 AHA 2940 had 2 firmwares 1st were 2.57.? second 2.20.0 any idea how could i solve this ? regards tomas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com First, if possible, update your firmware on the card, then try again. if you cannot update the firmware on the card There is an aic7xxx_old on the modules which you could try to use by typing F1 then expert unless everything you have is on that adapter. In that case, boot off of CD2 and select an alternate install image that uses the older driver. 2.2.19-BADZ5 for example will use the older Adaptec Driver. Adaptec updated drivers and firmware in April of Last Year which made this happen for people with older cards. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Hostname - alias
On Wednesday 20 March 2002 01:25 pm, you wrote: OK, I have always been stuck with either localhost or whatever name my dhcp server gives me (today I am d152-159). I would LIKE to give myself an alias of my choice but every time I've made any moves in that direction, it borks my system. KDE chokes and cannot connect to itself anymore, no new konsoles, inability to contact my mail provider, and other sorts of networking-related pain. All I did was set my alias using linuxconf! An ALIAS dorks networking and the system?! Doing a man hostname doesn't give me anything useful. I try hostname -a my desired alias and it returns nothing but a blank line. I edit /etc/hosts and try to add/change the alias there. No good (and its gone next startup). What is the magic trick to naming my system whatever I want to? praedor Got to linuxconf, networking, hostname and Ipnetwork devices. Name yerself there. It's always worked for me -- Ken Thompson, North West Antique Autos Payette, Idaho Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nwaa.com Sales and brokering of antique autos and parts. Linux- Coming Soon To A Desktop Near You Registered Linux User #183936 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What would cause system to just stop?
On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, ai4a wrote: David Guntner wrote: Tom Brinkman grabbed a keyboard and wrote: Type 'sensors' in a term. You should see somethin like SYS Temp: +28.8°C (limit = +60°C, hysteresis = +50°C) CPU Temp: +44.0°C (limit = +60°C, hysteresis = +50°C) SBr Temp: +23.2°C (limit = +60°C, hysteresis = +50°C) There maybe numbers associated, eg, temp 1, temp2, etc. In my example cpu temp is number 2. I think whatever this program needs is not available with the motherboard that I'm using. I typed sensors, and then when I ran it a second time after I did a modprobe i2c-proc in response to the first attempt's complaining about it (oops :), it reported No sensors found! So, whatever it's expecting to be on my motherboard for that program to interface with, doesn't seem to be there. Do you need to run 'sensors -s' before you run sensors? I am very new at sensors, but I think that is what I had to do! HTH Charles You need to run sensors-detect as root and follow the instructions first. There may be several more modules that have to be loaded before sensors will work, if it supports you motherboard. -- Lee Burnside -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phys.ttu.edu/~tljlb/ Many a good hanging prevents a bad marriage. --The Bard Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] problems with DNS
Or maybe not.Here's what's happening. - I set up bind on my LM8.1 box as a caching nameserver - I issue the command dig -x 127.0.0.1 and hit return. In a moment it comes back with a message that indicates that named is working correctly. - I issue the command dig blahblahblah.com and in a moment it comes back to tell me that it can't find any servers. I think it's having a problem with my firewall, but I can sort that out later (that is not my problem right now) - I make various changes to /etc/hosts, /etc/hosts.conf, /etc/resolv.conf, each time using the Mandrake Control Center to stop and start named. - Here's my problem..after stopping and starting named this way 4 or 5 time, it starts to tell me that it can't stop bind, but it still says it's OK when it starts it again. If I look for named with top or ps -A, it is not there, yet the Control Center and the SysV editor both report that it is running. If I use the SysV editor to stop and start named, I get the same wierd behaviour. Once this starts happening dig -x 127.0.0.1 no longer works, and instead tells me that it can't find the server. So it looks like using the Mandrake Control Center to stop and start named eventually kills it, so that some how the system thinks it's still running even though it's not..Or maybe I'm an idiot. I have checked the logs and found that indeed it fails when trying to stop named, u, upgraded bind, rebooted, sacrificed gerbils.. Any hints or guesses would be appreciated. Doug Gough Pacific Academy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Corrupted filesystem after normal shutdown
On Tuesday 19 March 2002 04:43, you wrote: Yes I agree with Ed , western Digital Hard Disks have problem Sharing IDE CABLE , this question may destroy your disks. Got another go figure with a Western Digitalis . On one box, I have to set the drive as Master, on another, the *same* drive has to be set to Cable Select, or else it won't boot. Other HD's on these same boxen do *not* have this issue. And then, just to top things, the up-till-now solid-as-a-rock IBM drives are now flaky (the new 40-60 gig) ,.. damn!! -- john in sydney = Mandrake Linux 8.2 Kernel version: 2.4.17-5mdk Uptime: 1 hour 47 minutes = Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] quotas ?
Dear Experts ... I have exported a File System from a Sun WS to my linux computer ... On the remote machine, the quota feature is enabled for this file system ... How I can set up the same quotas on my local machine ? Does exist special options when I mount the filesystem...? The mount options for a nfs file system don't support the usrquota mount option Any idea ? rodrigo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Smoking Grass
David wrote: Hello experts, Last evening I installed MD8.2, and reformatted my / and /usr partitions as xfs. Now, just about everything seems to be running slower than MD8.1 on ext3 partitions. Did I smoke too much grass in my younger years or is this a reality? Is there something I maybe did wrong? Is there a check of some type that I could perform to test this? What could be causing this? confused Dave Well the truth be known, you probably did smoke to much grass. But as long as you did not hang out with Owsley, you should be ok... Try running hdparm -tT /dev/hdx (where x is your device) to get a comparison of speed on your different mount points. (now there would be no one here that would know Owsley, right?) -- J. Craig Woods UNIX/NT Network/System Administration -Art is the illusion of spontaneity- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Is there a rpm for oracle in php 4.0.6 for Mandrake?
[Wed, 20 Mar 2002, 12:43:49 -0500 0.8K] Yu-Hsin Chen wrote (edited): % I'm trying to have php work with oracle on my Mandrake 8.0. % % I have reinstalled php 4.0.6-3.2mdk using software manager. I can % only fine php-mysql and php-pgsql packages with mdk. Is there a % package that will work with oracle? % ---end of quote--- Trying to find a result for php-oracle in http://rpmfind.net is also nothing. The rpm for Oracle is only for oraclerun. -- amal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Smoking Grass
J. Craig Woods wrote: David wrote: Hello experts, Last evening I installed MD8.2, and reformatted my / and /usr partitions as xfs. Now, just about everything seems to be running slower than MD8.1 on ext3 partitions. Did I smoke too much grass in my younger years or is this a reality? Is there something I maybe did wrong? Is there a check of some type that I could perform to test this? What could be causing this? confused Dave Well the truth be known, you probably did smoke to much grass. But as long as you did not hang out with Owsley, you should be ok... Try running hdparm -tT /dev/hdx (where x is your device) to get a comparison of speed on your different mount points. (now there would be no one here that would know Owsley, right?) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com actually hdparm -t /dev/hdx is more informative. The capital T basically measures the bandwidth of your memory. And if you are using software RAID, then it is less than informative. It works OK for RAID1 and 4 but not so well for 0 or 5, especially not for 0, where it is possible to exceed the speed of a single disk. But my measurements on creation and updating show XFS on a par or slightly better than ext2 which is itself 50% faster than ext3. (Yes, ext3 is like 66% the speed of ext2). Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Printing borked in 8.2/update
Update, LPRng will work fine with apsfilter if I start it manually. It just doesnt want to start on bootup. Once I start it, its AOK. Rob. civileme wrote: Rob wrote: I tried using the printer config menu from the control system menu. It detects my printer and everything, and then just hangs, never completing its operation by actually setting up the printer. I have a Lexmark Optra that I want to set up as a vanilla Postscript printer. So (Forgive me on this as Im more of a FreeBSD expert) I went and installed apsfilter. It put a spool file in /var/spool/lpd for lp, and then modified princap. But when I try to print using lpr I get an error message telling me there is no printer at name@localhost. Is there a config file somewhere that Im missing? I started up lpd. Thanks, Rob. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Sorry, fellow, there are three printing systems offered, LPRng, CUPS, and PDQ. lpd is OUT. Putting it in is likely to break things. It sounds more like there was a corrupted file during install than anything else. We have tested printing thoroughly with 8.2. Did you try # printerdrake as root? That should have resolved your problems. We also have drivers for most winprinters, but no proprietary drivers. Those come only with the commercial CDs. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- - The Numeric Python EM Project www.pythonemproject.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Smoking Grass
On my system I get: Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 1.68 seconds = 38.10 MB/sec Is this good, bad, or average? cheers Brian On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 12:42, civileme wrote: J. Craig Woods wrote: David wrote: Hello experts, Last evening I installed MD8.2, and reformatted my / and /usr partitions as xfs. Now, just about everything seems to be running slower than MD8.1 on ext3 partitions. Did I smoke too much grass in my younger years or is this a reality? Is there something I maybe did wrong? Is there a check of some type that I could perform to test this? What could be causing this? confused Dave Well the truth be known, you probably did smoke to much grass. But as long as you did not hang out with Owsley, you should be ok... Try running hdparm -tT /dev/hdx (where x is your device) to get a comparison of speed on your different mount points. (now there would be no one here that would know Owsley, right?) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com actually hdparm -t /dev/hdx is more informative. The capital T basically measures the bandwidth of your memory. And if you are using software RAID, then it is less than informative. It works OK for RAID1 and 4 but not so well for 0 or 5, especially not for 0, where it is possible to exceed the speed of a single disk. But my measurements on creation and updating show XFS on a par or slightly better than ext2 which is itself 50% faster than ext3. (Yes, ext3 is like 66% the speed of ext2). Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] AHA-2940UW under mandrake 8.2
On Wednesday 20 March 2002 05:43 am, you wrote: Hallo i were try to isntall new mandrake 8.2. I never use other linux at that machine and i got this problem. I have only SCSI devices, so boot comes up, then he try to detect scsi. he identify my 2940 as 7881 and then become black screen, numlock not work, its dead. when i try other drivers from yours CD(7xxx) it do same. i tested 2.4.18,2.4.14 AHA 2940 had 2 firmwares 1st were 2.57.? second 2.20.0 any idea how could i solve this ? regards tomas Which version? 8.2RC1? I had troubles with my AHA2940UW on 2 beta versions. RC1 is fine for me. I don't recall which version of the firmware I'm using, but it hasn't been updated for over a year now. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What would cause system to just stop?
I'm sure that Tom will explain his reasoning on the bios temp thing, but as he's probably asleep right now, let me butt in. I suspect that the difference between using sensors and rebooting then looking at the bios is just timing. i.e. Using sensors you can see the temp while the cpu is under load. By the time you've shut down and brought up bios screens, the load is long gone and the temp not indicative. Brian On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 06:32, David Guntner wrote: Tom Brinkman grabbed a keyboard and wrote: Type 'sensors' in a term. You should see somethin like SYS Temp: +28.8°C (limit = +60°C, hysteresis = +50°C) CPU Temp: +44.0°C (limit = +60°C, hysteresis = +50°C) SBr Temp: +23.2°C (limit = +60°C, hysteresis = +50°C) There maybe numbers associated, eg, temp 1, temp2, etc. In my example cpu temp is number 2. I think whatever this program needs is not available with the motherboard that I'm using. I typed sensors, and then when I ran it a second time after I did a modprobe i2c-proc in response to the first attempt's complaining about it (oops :), it reported No sensors found! So, whatever it's expecting to be on my motherboard for that program to interface with, doesn't seem to be there. In Gkrellm's configuration, under Builtins | Sensors, you would type 'cpu' (w/o the quotes) in the second line under 'Sensor Label'. Cpu temp should then be reported. Gkrellm can be configured to show temps in C or F, but sensors and most everybody else uses Celsius. Unfortunately, gkrellm's configuration on my machine has no sensors under Builtins. I'm guessing that's due to whatever caused the sensors program to report that there aren't any. At least when I reboot to look at it in the BIOS, it's well below that. Should be about 30C lower. Just to repeat what I said before. The bios temp is all but useless. Also, for AMD cpu's, the temp is from an external probe in contact with the cpu die, or measured from a pin. It is always 10 to 20C less than the actual core temp, could be as much as 30C less. I accept what you're saying about BIOS temps, but it seems to be the only thing I have available to me with this motherboard. FWIW, my Linux system has been running all night, and I just did some things with it (which would bring the load up a little bit), and then rebooted to get into the BIOS setup to look at the reading. It's currently showing 39 degrees C (102 F), which is 30 degrees below the number(s) you reported previously. So I don't think it's a CPU temp issue. Also (in case you missed in in one of my earlier messages), when this problem started, I took out the 550MHz CPU I had in there at the time and fell back to my old 350MHz CPU, to see if it *was* the CPU. The problem continued even after swapping out CPUs. BTW, you make a big deal out of the BIOS reported temprature not being worth much (which I accept), but then go on to recommend these sensor programs (which apparently don't work with my motherboard :). Aren't *they* just pulling numbers from the BIOS? I'm just asking because I've gotten the impression that you think those are more accurate, and if that's the case, I'm curious as to how since it seems like they'd still be getting the same bad numbers that the BIOS setup page would be reporting One (new) thing of note: Last night when I got home from work, I shut down the machine and reseated all three DIMM modules. After doing that, my machine refused to start at all. Well, one time it started to boot and then just hung in the middle of the boot - after that, I couldn't get the machine to do *anything* when powered on (or just the reset button pushed). I started pulling DIMMs one at a time and found that when one particular DIMM is in the system, it won't start. When it's out, the machine will come up fine. (And yes, I moved one of the other modules to the slot that the troublemaker was in, to make sure it wasn't the slot. :) So, either I managed to fry that DIMM when I was reseating it, or that module was doing a slow die on me and it finally just gave up the ghost. A few days of running the machine should give me an idea - this last week I haven't been able to get the machine to stay up for more than 48 hours without locking up. If it runs for a week, I'm going to chalk it up to problem solved and go buy another DIMM to replace it. Well, actually, if it stays up a week, I'm putting the 550MHz chip back in first and then run it for another week. :-) Again, thanks for all the information. It has been most interesting. --Dave -- David Guntner GEnie: Just say NO! http://www.akaMail.com/pgpkey/davidg or key server for PGP Public key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to
Re: [expert] Smoking Grass
On Wednesday 20 March 2002 07:56 pm, you wrote: On my system I get: Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 1.68 seconds = 38.10 MB/sec Is this good, bad, or average? I'm guessing it is good. I get only Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 5.22 seconds = 12.26 MB/sec I'm using a 200mhz pentium. Does CPU speed affect the throughput? cheers Brian On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 12:42, civileme wrote: J. Craig Woods wrote: David wrote: Hello experts, Last evening I installed MD8.2, and reformatted my / and /usr partitions as xfs. Now, just about everything seems to be running slower than MD8.1 on ext3 partitions. Did I smoke too much grass in my younger years or is this a reality? Is there something I maybe did wrong? Is there a check of some type that I could perform to test this? What could be causing this? confused Dave Well the truth be known, you probably did smoke to much grass. But as long as you did not hang out with Owsley, you should be ok... Try running hdparm -tT /dev/hdx (where x is your device) to get a comparison of speed on your different mount points. (now there would be no one here that would know Owsley, right?) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com actually hdparm -t /dev/hdx is more informative. The capital T basically measures the bandwidth of your memory. And if you are using software RAID, then it is less than informative. It works OK for RAID1 and 4 but not so well for 0 or 5, especially not for 0, where it is possible to exceed the speed of a single disk. But my measurements on creation and updating show XFS on a par or slightly better than ext2 which is itself 50% faster than ext3. (Yes, ext3 is like 66% the speed of ext2). Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SPAM, Who, Me??????
On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 09:17:02 -0700 Praedor Tempus [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder: Praedor, do you have a step by step of how you set it up and got it work? because the last time I tried it it took me 3 days to recover from all the brain damage it caused me. it wasn't very much fun. more like debugging a Win98 installation. -- daRcmaTTeR - If at first you don't succeed do what your wife told you to do the first time! Registered Linux User 182496 - 10:05pm up 6 days, 23:45, 3 users, load average: 0.26, 0.27, 0.30 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Smoking Grass
Brian Parish wrote: On my system I get: Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 1.68 seconds = 38.10 MB/sec Is this good, bad, or average? cheers Brian On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 12:42, civileme wrote: J. Craig Woods wrote: David wrote: Hello experts, Last evening I installed MD8.2, and reformatted my / and /usr partitions as xfs. Now, just about everything seems to be running slower than MD8.1 on ext3 partitions. Did I smoke too much grass in my younger years or is this a reality? Is there something I maybe did wrong? Is there a check of some type that I could perform to test this? What could be causing this? confused Dave Well the truth be known, you probably did smoke to much grass. But as long as you did not hang out with Owsley, you should be ok... Try running hdparm -tT /dev/hdx (where x is your device) to get a comparison of speed on your different mount points. (now there would be no one here that would know Owsley, right?) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com actually hdparm -t /dev/hdx is more informative. The capital T basically measures the bandwidth of your memory. And if you are using software RAID, then it is less than informative. It works OK for RAID1 and 4 but not so well for 0 or 5, especially not for 0, where it is possible to exceed the speed of a single disk. But my measurements on creation and updating show XFS on a par or slightly better than ext2 which is itself 50% faster than ext3. (Yes, ext3 is like 66% the speed of ext2). Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com That is great for UDMA100... in fact the best I have seen. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Is there a rpm for oracle in php 4.0.6 for Mandrake?
I'm looking for rpm so I can avoid compile php from scratch. Seems like I don't have much choice now. Yu-Hsin -Original Message- From: Ikhlasul Amal Sent: Wed 3/20/2002 6:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject:Re: [expert] Is there a rpm for oracle in php 4.0.6 for Mandrake? [Wed, 20 Mar 2002, 12:43:49 -0500 0.8K] Yu-Hsin Chen wrote (edited): % I'm trying to have php work with oracle on my Mandrake 8.0. % % I have reinstalled php 4.0.6-3.2mdk using software manager. I can % only fine php-mysql and php-pgsql packages with mdk. Is there a % package that will work with oracle? % ---end of quote--- Trying to find a result for php-oracle in http://rpmfind.net is also nothing. The rpm for Oracle is only for oraclerun. -- amal [EMAIL PROTECTED] winmail.dat Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] rpm database
On Sat, 2 Mar 2002 18:50:01 +0100 (MET) Lars Roland Kristiansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I have just installed the rpm called locals - now my rpm database i f***ed - It will make core dumped if i use rpm --rebuilddb, is there anyway i can manualy edit the database or any other way i can fix this. (reinstalling is not an option) ... Lars try the methods on this page by Pascal Bourguignon it covers how to rebuild an rpm database. http://hermes.afaa.asso.fr/users/pascal/linux/rpm-rebuilddb My problem is slightly different, apparently. rpm -a -q outputs a nice long list of stuff. rpm -i gmime-0.6.0-1.i386.rpm hangs forever (well, 1 hour) rpm --rebuilddb core dumps with seg fault. In my attempting to fix it, its gotten different. Now, when I say rpm --rebuilddb I get: rpmdb: /var/lib/rpmrebuilddb.2466/__db.001: Input/output error error: db3 error(5) from dbenv-open: Input/output error error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - Input/output error (5) That is in the window I logged in using. However, in the console I see: is_leaf: free space seems wrong: level=1, nr_items=81, free_space=4 rdkey vs-5150: search_by_key: invalid format found in block 22236. Fsck? This is a bit scary, as this is a reiserfs partition! Does anyone have any idea how to move forward? Thanks! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What would cause system to just stop?
On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 11:53:00 -0500 (EST) JOHN HEMMER [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, James wrote: On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 20:36:36 -0800 (PST) David Guntner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Brinkman grabbed a keyboard and wrote: On Tuesday 19 March 2002 13:13, David Guntner wrote: I went to AMD's site, and while I could find a PDF document titled AMD-K6- 2 Processor Data Sheet, the Thermal Design section only says that it's supposed to run with a case temprature within a certain range. They also don't mention the 550MHz chip. Well, maybe you can get the info somewhere, but it should be on their site. FWIW, my 1.4/266 Tbird is spec'd at 95C, but the 1.4 is also the hottest cpu AMD makes. Your K6 should be lower, 80C, maybe 85C is probly a decent guess on the high end, but it could be in the 70's. At least when I reboot to look at it in the BIOS, it's well below that. I'll keep looking, but if it isn't in the Themal Design section of the Processor Data Sheet, I'm kind-of at a loss for where to look... :-) Thanks again for all the information and suggestions. --Dave Dave when you switched CPU's did you use the same fan? If it isn't moving enough air it would cause them both to do the same thing. Having run a lot of k-6's from 300 - 500 mhz I've found that ideal temp for the stock fan is about 50 celcius and with a high end fan you can get down to about 42 to 45 (it improves benchmarks ever so slightly) under normal load. James I have a 450MHz K6 cpu in my tower box. I use to leave it running all the time; however, as time went on it windows 98 crashed constantly. After reinstalling windows several times, I installed a dual boot Linux. I use Linux almost exclusively now, because everytime I reinstall Windows it crashes after a couple of days... to the severity of where it is easier to reinstall windows, than it is diagnose the fix the problem. Anyways, if I leave my computer on constantly, it freezes after 20 hours or so, even running Linux; however, I can fix Linux by running fsck. As a result of all this I turn my computer off each night, so it usually only runs 16 to 18 hours a day. Doing this I don't seem to have problems, at least with Linux. After several years of repairing Minicomputer to the actual bad logic gate, I have no desired to do that again. So my question is can any recommend a good reliable fan, without getting into the engineering specs, that will let me run trouble free. Thanks, John PS. If it does run trouble free, I promise...I won't go back to using windows. :-) I've had good luck with just about any of the Cylindrical fans (or as we call them squirrel cage.) or at least all the versions I've tried have worked. I'd tell you the name of the fan on this box but I can't spin my eyes fast enough *grin* Also look for a taller heat sink. To many of the stock k-6 fans had a low profile heat sink and as such even if the fan is at full tilt it doesn't have enough surface area to properly cool a box. The final thing we found. Don't use the fans that get power from the mobo. For some reason we found that the same fan powered from the mobo was turning slower and moving less air than one that got power straight from the power supply. (yep we actually put a stobe tach for cars on it and read the results.. god was that a kludge) The mobo ones seemed to be about 10-13% slower than the same model that connected to the power supply directly. To check the fan go into your bios and watch the temp of the cpu rise. With the larger fans it's a ! noticably slower rise and it seems to level out about 7-10 degrees cooler. Also for long live look for one that is ball bearing not sleeve. The sleeves last about 6months running 24-7 before the first one goes. The ball bearing seem to last about 2 - 3 years. (Field results of about 100 boxes all over the US and Canada.) James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Smoking Grass
On Wed, 2002-03-20 at 20:42, civileme wrote: actually hdparm -t /dev/hdx is more informative. The capital T basically measures the bandwidth of your memory. And if you are using software RAID, then it is less than informative. It works OK for RAID1 and 4 but not so well for 0 or 5, especially not for 0, where it is possible to exceed the speed of a single disk. But my measurements on creation and updating show XFS on a par or slightly better than ext2 which is itself 50% faster than ext3. (Yes, ext3 is like 66% the speed of ext2). Perhaps this is true under your conditionals, but under what ext3 journalling mode were your tests run? There are three; Nonjournalling, metadata mode, and data mode. If you are going to bench ext2 against ext3, the tests should include results from ext3 in nonjournalling mode. If you are going to bench ext3 against any other journaling fs, the tests should include results from ext3 in metadata journalling mode. (Since all the other journaling fs's only support metadata journalling.) If you want to prove how slow ext3 can truly be, you should bench it in it's maximum data protection option, which is data journalling mode. As far as I know, ext3 is the only FS that supports this level of operational reliability. This mode is of course for those that do not consider speed as a sole requisite for filesystem analysis. There are such people out there. I don't mind benchmarks, in fact I burn the wires between myself and Dr Tom, but I run ext3 and I haven't seen the kind of speed differences indicated in your tests. I can't begin to make any comparisons beyond that (with XFS or otherwise) because I havent seen the specifics concerning ext3 journalling mode under your tests. I also wonder how small an XFS partition could be. ;) Civileme Late R On LX _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] smoking grass revisted
Yes, the lower case t in runing hdparm gives you specific info on disc reads but in knowing what the upper case T does will also help. I once had a problem with my disc speed, and until I ran the T switch, I could not see it was really a problem with my FSB speed. Turns out the mobo was not functioning, and this I did not know until I ran an hdparm -tT. I call it two params for the price of one Dr John, The Night Tripper Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Vodoo3 in 8.2
Hi, I've done a vanilla MDK 8.2 install and everything seems to run as expected, except when I try to run a 3d accelerated app (tuxracer, nethack-FE, etc) the x server goes into reset. Can't find an error message ion the X log so I'm not sure if I'm missing something or if XFree4.2 just doesn't like me. I compared the XF86Config-4 file to a known working one under Mdk 8.1 and couldn't see any differences Anyone got any thoughts? -- Andrew George --- Computers can figure out all kinds of problems, except the things in the world that just don't add up. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] ADSL setup - first attempt (help !!!)
hi,
i've been trying to get Mdk 8.1 to connect to the internet via ADSL for
the last 2 days on a friends computer with no luck.
i installed Mdk 8.1 from the Powerpack boxed set on an old AMD-233 with
64 MB RAM and 2Gb Hdd. the telco (TELUS in BC,canada) installed the line
and modem before he had the computer up. (this is happening at an office
in a garment store!!. he plans to host his own web site in a while, this
PC will eventually function as a firewall).
The ADSL modem is a D-Link DSL300i. the only ethernet device is a
DECchip 21041 {Tulip pass 3]
I finally managed to get X working on the SiS 63xx PCI VGA with just 2
Mb (640x480 limit) on the card KDE is a real drag. with icewm I could
get to the mandrake control center and to launch the wizard to configure
the ADSL link. but the wizard failed to bring up the link.
I used rp-pppoe as the protocol. I went thru the ADSL-HOWTO and also
check out the rp-pppoe docs. (and followed them to the letter)
/var/log/messages show the foll:
Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/pts/5
Timecout waiting for PADO packets
LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
the value /dev/pts/5 changes to 6 and the same errors repeat will pppd
dies and eventually pppoe.
i also tried with 'dhcpcd' protocol. this time the link seems to come up
with an valid ip assigned to it. 'ifconfig' shows a valid
ip/broadcast/sunet mask, even Linuxconf shows automatically obtained
DNS1 2 ip addresses. but I cannot ping any address except my own and
the DNS servers.
this is my first attempt at ADSL. what / where did i miss something ?
any pointers ? ideas ?
I need to get this done ASAP so I can convince him to go in for a linux
solution (he is currently biased towards a mac, of which i have'nt a
clue)
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[expert] configurators won't run
I'm running MD8.2. After the install, all was well. Now, I must of done something to some libraries or something. I cannot run any conf apps including: drakconf, userconf, userdrake, harddrake, timeconfig, and drakfloppy. After running linuxconf I get the following: MIssing configuration file /etc/devsfsd.config or service devsfsd At login, I get an error. Something to the effect of /dev/dsp cannot be found. Is this related? Dave -- °°° Mandrake Linux 8.1 Kernel 2.4.8-26mdk KDE 2.2.1 Sylpheed 0.7.2 David L. Steiner Registered Linux User #262493 Homepagewww.davidlsteiner.com Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What would cause system to just stop?
James grabbed a keyboard and wrote: Just had a friend walk in so I asked him... He had the same problem and it was because the CPU fan had gotten worn down and wasn't cooling the CPU as well as it used to (plus a lot of the k-6 fans were flaky to start) His suggestion is to (his words not mine) open up the case stick a destop fan blowing into the box. If that changes the time before it crokes... it's the fan. Or if you don't want such a crude test get one of the cylindrical(sp?) fans on the market now put it in and try it out that way. Fans cheaper and easier to find than a k-6 mobo these days. I know. :-) I'm dreading having to track down a new motherboard for this beast, although as I progress further and further, it's looking more and more likely. FWIW, the BIOS has not been reporting abnormally high tempratures on the CPU. The 350MHz one I have in their currently is running around 109 degrees F, which isn't that bad. I've got all three DIMM (I can't believe I've been saying SIMM all this time - argh!) slots populated at the present time. I'm going to start pulling them one at a time and see if the problem goes away. I've had really good results with Memtest-86 in the past, so I don't seriously think it's a DIMM module. But I want to be complete in my testing Especially before I have to track down a new motherboard. --Dave -- David Guntner GEnie: Just say NO! http://www.akaMail.com/pgpkey/davidg or key server for PGP Public key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What would cause system to just stop?
civileme grabbed a keyboard and wrote: Do you have an external connection and an ssh server? Let's see whether it is a keyboard lockup or something else. Oh, it's the system alright. I've got two computers here, one a Win98SE box, and one my ML 8.1 box. I do have a ssh daemon running on the Linux box, and when this thing has hung up like this, my ssh client on the Windows box won't connect to the Linux box. The ctrl-alt-printscr should sync stuff out to disk to give you a chance to log the freeze-up. I will give that a try the next time the system hangs. If it reports anything in the logs, I'll post it here. --Dave -- David Guntner GEnie: Just say NO! http://www.akaMail.com/pgpkey/davidg or key server for PGP Public key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Mail loop?
I just got several messages bounced back to me from the mailing list, saying something about a mail loop. Since the list appears to be working, I resent those messages (since I don't know at this point which ones actually made it through before and which ones didn't). I apologize for any duplicates I just sent out :-) --Dave -- David Guntner GEnie: Just say NO! http://www.akaMail.com/pgpkey/davidg or key server for PGP Public key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What would cause system to just stop?
Tom Brinkman grabbed a keyboard and wrote: Well, I'd suspect overheating too since the ram checks out. Install lm_sensors and gkrellm if they aren't already, and constantly monitor your cpu temp. Those sound useful. :-) Are they on one of the CDs, or do they have to be downloaded from somewhere? Currently, the only way I can check my CPU temp is to reboot and then go into the BIOS - not the most optimal way... :-) Since the system will pass memtest86, you're ready to really test it. Go to www.amd.com and find out the core failure temp for your K6. Since the temp from a probe (thermistor) can be as much as 30°C less than the core temp, you should be seein cpu temps from lm_sensors that are failure temp minus 30°C. EG, if AMD specs the max core temp at 80°C, then you never want your displayed temp to go over 50°C, and certainly not 60°C. I went to AMD's site, and while I could find a PDF document titled AMD-K6- 2 Processor Data Sheet, the Thermal Design section only says that it's supposed to run with a case temprature within a certain range. They also don't mention the 550MHz chip. If you're OK, then d/l cpuburn http://users.ev1.net/~redelm/ and run 'burn'K6'. Cpu temp will rapidly rise, and if it gets to within 20°C of failure temp, abort burnK6 and improve your cpu and case cooling. Generally case temps are the problem, but if your heatsink is mounted with a thermal pad, clean it off and remount the hs with thermal grease. 'Course while you're in there, clean out the dust bunnies, and reseat all your cable connections, harddrive cables, and peripheral cards, including the ram. I'm kind-of one step ahead of you there. :-) I pulled my 550MHz chip, thinking that the problem could be with the CPU, and replaced it with the old 350MHz chip that the 550MHz chip had replaced originally (I tend not to throw away components when they get replaced :). So the heatsink has a nice fresh coat of heatsink grease on it, and I did blow everything out and reseated several connectors (can't remember if I got them all or not, though...). Memtest86 is a great first test, but any properly cooled and stable system should be able to run the appropriate cpuburn module for at least an hour. Weak systems and those overclocked too far will probly fail within 10 to 15 minutes. If ya don't wanna do all the above, then at least take your case cover off, clean out the dust, and point a table fan into the case an see if that remedies your problems. If it does, you need to improve case cooling. I will give those various things a try. Thanks for the suggestions. --Dave -- David Guntner GEnie: Just say NO! http://www.akaMail.com/pgpkey/davidg or key server for PGP Public key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What would cause system to just stop?
ai4a grabbed a keyboard and wrote: David Guntner wrote: I think whatever this program needs is not available with the motherboard that I'm using. I typed sensors, and then when I ran it a second time after I did a modprobe i2c-proc in response to the first attempt's complaining about it (oops :), it reported No sensors found! So, whatever it's expecting to be on my motherboard for that program to interface with, doesn't seem to be there. Do you need to run 'sensors -s' before you run sensors? I am very new at sensors, but I think that is what I had to do! Tried that, but it made no difference. I still get no sensors found. --Dave -- David Guntner GEnie: Just say NO! http://www.akaMail.com/pgpkey/davidg or key server for PGP Public key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What would cause system to just stop?
Tom Brinkman grabbed a keyboard and wrote: On Tuesday 19 March 2002 13:13, David Guntner wrote: Those sound useful. :-) Are they on one of the CDs, or do they have to be downloaded from somewhere? Currently, the only way I can check my CPU temp is to reboot and then go into the BIOS - not the most optimal way... :-) The temp displayed in bios is for the most part useless. The system hasn't heated up yet, and HLT's (halts) aren't being sent by the kernel to the cpu. So while there's little load, there's no idling either. Cpu core temp can rise and fall dramatically with load. Shut down for some time, I'll see cpu temps from bios that are just above room temp (~30C), but by the time I get to KDE they're in the normal mid 40's. Unfortunately, krellm doesn't seem to display my CPU temprature, so I'm not sure how I'm going to monitor it. BTW, just so you're aware of it, my Linux machine (ML 8.1) is *never* powered off unless I'm having to get inside the case to connect/disconnect something. So the temprature should be staying pretty stable inside. I believe you on the CPU temp changing as the load goes up and down, I just don't know how to actually monitor it while the system is running, since those utilities don't seem to know where the CPU temp is being reported. I went to AMD's site, and while I could find a PDF document titled AMD-K6- 2 Processor Data Sheet, the Thermal Design section only says that it's supposed to run with a case temprature within a certain range. They also don't mention the 550MHz chip. Well, maybe you can get the info somewhere, but it should be on their site. FWIW, my 1.4/266 Tbird is spec'd at 95C, but the 1.4 is also the hottest cpu AMD makes. Your K6 should be lower, 80C, maybe 85C is probly a decent guess on the high end, but it could be in the 70's. At least when I reboot to look at it in the BIOS, it's well below that. I'll keep looking, but if it isn't in the Themal Design section of the Processor Data Sheet, I'm kind-of at a loss for where to look... :-) I'm kind-of one step ahead of you there. :-) I pulled my 550MHz chip, thinking that the problem could be with the CPU, and replaced it with the old 350MHz chip that the 550MHz chip had replaced originally (I tend not to throw away components when they get replaced :). So the heatsink has a nice fresh coat of heatsink grease on it, and I did blow everything out and reseated several connectors (can't remember if I got them all or not, though...). Without gettin too far into it, cpu's that are run too hot, too long experience 'cpu creep'. There's actual migration and increased resistance of the internal components. Once that's happened, there's no going back. So it's good policy to monitor temp, and test occaisionly with memtest86 and cpuburn. Another benefit of monitoring cpu temp is you get early warning of runaway procceses, even if the system seems fairly normal in use. I agree. Again (just for information), the 350MHz chip that's in there now never gave me any problems. I upgraded to the 550MHz chip to get more speed, nothing more. I fell back to the 350MHz chip in an effort to see if the problem was with the CPU. I'm running a different CPU but still having the same hang problem, which is why I'm kind-of doubting a problem with the CPU at this time. I'm persuing the testing information that you've been providing because A) I'd like to be as sure that it's not the CPU as possible, and B) I find the discussion to be quite interesting and informative. Thanks again for all the information and suggestions. --Dave -- David Guntner GEnie: Just say NO! http://www.akaMail.com/pgpkey/davidg or key server for PGP Public key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ADSL setup - first attempt (help !!!)
Hello,
Which version do you use?
I had some problems on RH7.1... I downloaded the latest version of
rp-pppoe from roaring penguin and atfer the installation, everything
woked fine!
Do you have a default gateway towards ppp0?
Success!
Wim
Ashley Moore wrote:
hi,
i've been trying to get Mdk 8.1 to connect to the internet via ADSL for
the last 2 days on a friends computer with no luck.
i installed Mdk 8.1 from the Powerpack boxed set on an old AMD-233 with
64 MB RAM and 2Gb Hdd. the telco (TELUS in BC,canada) installed the line
and modem before he had the computer up. (this is happening at an office
in a garment store!!. he plans to host his own web site in a while, this
PC will eventually function as a firewall).
The ADSL modem is a D-Link DSL300i. the only ethernet device is a
DECchip 21041 {Tulip pass 3]
I finally managed to get X working on the SiS 63xx PCI VGA with just 2
Mb (640x480 limit) on the card KDE is a real drag. with icewm I could
get to the mandrake control center and to launch the wizard to configure
the ADSL link. but the wizard failed to bring up the link.
I used rp-pppoe as the protocol. I went thru the ADSL-HOWTO and also
check out the rp-pppoe docs. (and followed them to the letter)
/var/log/messages show the foll:
Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/pts/5
Timecout waiting for PADO packets
LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
the value /dev/pts/5 changes to 6 and the same errors repeat will pppd
dies and eventually pppoe.
i also tried with 'dhcpcd' protocol. this time the link seems to come up
with an valid ip assigned to it. 'ifconfig' shows a valid
ip/broadcast/sunet mask, even Linuxconf shows automatically obtained
DNS1 2 ip addresses. but I cannot ping any address except my own and
the DNS servers.
this is my first attempt at ADSL. what / where did i miss something ?
any pointers ? ideas ?
I need to get this done ASAP so I can convince him to go in for a linux
solution (he is currently biased towards a mac, of which i have'nt a
clue)
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