Re: [expert] Unmountable Samba mounts and other oddities

2002-07-29 Thread PlugHead

I've got this problem as well, only it is happening with a share that still 
exists.  As far as I can tell, it seems to be the case that our NT server is 
dropping the connection after some inactivity, and Samba can't re-establish 
for some reason...

Anyhow, for me, I just use umount with the -l option.  After that, I'm able 
to re-mount the share and it works just fine (until it times out again...)

If anyone knows a real fix for this, I'd love to hear it...

-Jason

On Sunday 28 July 2002 11:09 pm, Rob Gillen wrote:
 I've seen a problem for many different versions (latest 8.2) of Mandrake
 with Samba before, and I may have even inquired about it before.
  Whether it is a problem with Samba I have no idea, but I suspect not.
  I'm trying to get some info/advice about what might be potentially the
 problem before going to Samba mailing lists to query them.

 Some of you might already be familiar with the strange way that Linux
 will often disallow umount-ing or listing directory contents of a
 mounted smb share, returning the error text, Input/output error.  I
 believe this error happens when a smb share is mounted, then that remote
 share is removed.  This is a seriously annoying problem, because
 restarting Samba does not solve the problem, nor does changing
 runlevels.  Which is why I think it may be a kernel-level problem.  I
 have tried changing the runlevel to [S]ingle level user, which is
 running pretty much nothing save kernel processes and a simple shell.
  At this level, a 'mount' command still shows the shares to be mounted,
 and also at this level it is still impossible to umount them.  The only
 solution that I have found so far is rebooting, which I think is an
 unacceptable way to handle such a problem.

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Re: [expert] Hack attack or not?

2002-07-29 Thread James Sparenberg

On Sun, 28 Jul 2002 23:27:11 -0500
J. Craig Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 James Sparenberg wrote:
  
  On the subject of Crackers.  Note this IP block owned by ATT
  12.234.0.0/24  If been getting hit heavily from there by a
  number of compromised M$ boxes.  I've alerted ATT but so far
  no answer,(it is Sunday though). So for the moment I'm
  blocking the entire IP block.  .  It's coming from NJ.  See
  the logs snippet below.
  
 
 Yep, Over the years, I have never heard back from ATT when I
 have reported abuse to them. Like so many big cats, they do not
 give a shit about you and I. But if you think ATT is loaded with
 those crummy M$ boxes running infected IIS crap, check this out:
 I started blocking M$ boxes coming from the GTE network. I
 started with the CIDR notation you are using 24. The problem
 was so pervasive that I now have the entire netblock of ip
 addresses being shit-canned at my firewall, i.e. 4.0.0.0/8. You
 can bet that put a stop to my logs feeling up with unwanted IIS
 crap. Just goes to show you that if you take pride in being a
 good SA, you do not work on a M$ server if you can help it
 
 drjung

DrJung,
   If you can claim 5,000 dollars in lost revenue due to
something like this (and in todays market that isn't very hard)
Call the FBI.  These guys are REAL serious about helping you. I
did once on a smurf attack, that was coming from a bunch of
WinServers at Level III ... After two months of the guy I got my
Office connection from talking with them they still hadn't done a
thing.  (On again off again DOS attack)  But when the FBI walked
in two days after I called them and sent them logs, with warrants
to confiscate servers they became very very cooperative.  Amazing
what the concept of losing 20 servers will do to someones
attitude. (Oh and they did find the kid in Texas, going through a
bunch of zombies in Argentina an the UK) 

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[expert] FontDrake

2002-07-29 Thread Timothy R. Butler

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Hi,
  I was playing around with fontdrake on a test system tonight, and decided to 
try using its Windows font installer. Everything seemed fine, KDE apps see 
the fonts, but all of them show up as some generic bitmap font rather then 
the actual fonts I installed.

  GTK apps see everything fine. Oh, and KDE using Xft doesn't see them at all.

  Any ideas? 

  TIA,
Tim

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[expert] PCMCIA: Texas Instruments PCI1420 not working after kernel-update

2002-07-29 Thread t_gecks

configuration: Mandrake 8.1

lspci:

...
00:04.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1420
00:04.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1420
...

Windows says: PCI1420 at i/o-address 0x3e0 and irq 11

tried that with

[root@... root]# modprobe i82365 i365_base=0x3e0 cs_irq=11

resulted in:

/lib/modules/2.4.18-8.2mdk/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/i82365.o.gz: 
init_module: No such device

The pcmcia worked before i updated the kernel.






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Re: [expert] FontDrake

2002-07-29 Thread s

On Saturday 27 July 2002 12:36 am, Timothy R. Butler wrote:
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 Hi,
   I was playing around with fontdrake on a test system tonight, and
 decided to try using its Windows font installer. Everything seemed
 fine, KDE apps see the fonts, but all of them show up as some
 generic bitmap font rather then the actual fonts I installed.

   GTK apps see everything fine. Oh, and KDE using Xft doesn't see
 them at all.

   Any ideas?

add the paths to your /etc/X11/Xftconfig file and enable aa fonts in 
kcontrol.  And if you want them to look really good, download the 
freetype2 source and recompile with byte code interpretter enabled.  
:)

hth,
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Re: [expert] PCMCIA: Texas Instruments PCI1420 not working afterkernel-update

2002-07-29 Thread Dave Sherman

On Mon, 2002-07-29 at 08:05, t_gecks wrote:
 configuration: Mandrake 8.1
 
 lspci:
 
 ...
 00:04.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1420
 00:04.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1420
 ...
 
 Windows says: PCI1420 at i/o-address 0x3e0 and irq 11
 
 tried that with
 
 [root@... root]# modprobe i82365 i365_base=0x3e0 cs_irq=11
 
 resulted in:
 
 /lib/modules/2.4.18-8.2mdk/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/i82365.o.gz: 
 init_module: No such device
 
 The pcmcia worked before i updated the kernel.

Based on the error msg, I would say that when you did the 'make modules'
part of the kernel compile, you were missing the particular module
source that you need. Therefore, no such module was compiled/created.

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Re: [expert] PCMCIA: Texas Instruments PCI1420 not working after kernel-update

2002-07-29 Thread civileme

t_gecks wrote:

 configuration: Mandrake 8.1

 lspci:

 ...
 00:04.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1420
 00:04.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1420
 ...

 Windows says: PCI1420 at i/o-address 0x3e0 and irq 11

 tried that with

 [root@... root]# modprobe i82365 i365_base=0x3e0 cs_irq=11

 resulted in:

 /lib/modules/2.4.18-8.2mdk/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/i82365.o.gz: 
 init_module: No such device

 The pcmcia worked before i updated the kernel.







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You are lucky _ANYTHING_ works after updating the kernel.  You do not 
update kernels.

If you have an updated kernel, you INSTALL it.  Afterward you have the 
choice in LILO of booting either kernel.  If you use update instead you 
have the new kernel with the old kernel modules, a definite mismatch 
when trying to load modules.

Hmmm, you did not say your version but I know we had changed numbering 
schemes in 8.2 so the automated tools would not update kernels and our 
advisories which accompany such updates clearly states not to update.

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Re: [expert] 9.0's kernel?

2002-07-29 Thread Bryan Whitehead

Todd Lyons wrote:
 Damian G wrote on Fri, Jul 26, 2002 at 08:42:24PM -0300 :
 
does anybody know if the final 9.0 release will include a preemptible kernel?
i've heard great things about the pre-emptible patch for linux ... and i'm still
 
 
 I don't know for certain that it will or will not, but I just looked
 through the current Cooker kernel and I did not see the preemptible
 patch applied.
 
 You do realize that using this patch pretty much prevents the machine
 from being used as a high capacity server.  It allow the kernel to be
 pulled away from unimportant things to take care of really important
 things like your desktop.  Hardly an acceptable compromise on a server.

This is totally untrue. In fact the preemptive kernel has been added to 
the 2.5 series and will be in 2.6 because it results in better 
preformance and lower latency. Much of userspace is spent in kernel 
space getting IO done. A preemptive kernel allows any process to be 
interrupted even while in the kernel. For example, when X needs to draw 
some stuff to the video card, that is done at a lower level in the 
kernel. A non-premptive kernel would not be able to interupt the process 
while it was in kernel space. The preeptive kernel can.

Example of fully premptive kernel: Solaris, among many others


Some more stuff to read:
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=5833 - kernel locking
http://vig.pearsoned.com/samplechapter/0130224960.pdf - Sample chapter
on Solaris Kernel internals
http://www.tech9.net/rml/linux/ - more links of how linux preemptive
kernel works
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Re: [expert] Quota on XFS problems

2002-07-29 Thread Bryan Whitehead

Don't use a secure kernel. The secure kernel does not give out quota 
information to users.

gikoreno wrote:
   Hello everyone,
 
 This is a repost from the newbie list, so sorry about that, I haven't 
 had a reply yet.
 
 I am running LM 8.2, and all my partitions are XFS.
 I am also running the system with msec level 5.
 The machine's Kernel is : kernel-secure-2.4.18.8
 
 Today I setup quotas for my users. I added the lines that were needed in 
 fstab, and the quotas are being enforced. For some reason it only works 
 certain times... edquota opens up an editor, in which I make the 
 changes and then save and quit. Is there a better way of doing this? One 
 that works every time? am I missing a step?
 
 
 My problem is that I would like my users to know what their current 
 quota is, and for some reason typing quota doesn't work (the users for 
 which I tried this command do have quota enforced).
 
 If a user types quota,
 they get something like:
 Disk quotas for user XXX(uid ): none
 
 If they type quota -v they get something like:
 
 Disk quotas for user XXX (uid ):
 Filesystem blocks quota limit grace files quota limit grace
 /dev/hda5 0 0 0 0 0 0
 /dev/hdc7 0 0 0 0 0 0
  
 
 Yet, if I check their quota as root, I get the accurate values.
 In other words, the quota command works as expected only if I am running 
 it as root.
 
 I am guessing it might be that quota can't read something that contains 
 the quota info when it is run as a user. What else could it be? What 
 should I try?
 
 I read the XFS info about the quota system on SGI's site (and in the 
 docs), but they all seem to imply that it should be possible to run the 
 quota command as a user and get the proper result. An edquota is 
 supposed to work every time...
 
 My third and last question is that I would like the quota info to be 
 displayed for each user when they log on through ssh. How do I make that 
 happen?
 
 Thanks in advance!
 
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Re: [expert] Hack attack or not?

2002-07-29 Thread Todd Lyons

James Sparenberg wrote on Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 08:50:24PM -0700 :
 On the subject of Crackers.  Note this IP block owned by ATT 
 12.234.0.0/24  If been getting hit heavily from there by a number

You're making the assumption that those boxes are actually owned by ATT.
In reality it's probably a customer of ATT.  Or even worse, a customer
or a customer of ATT.

Let me put it in another perspective.  ATT is selling to NSP which is
selling a portion of that to ISP.  One of the customers of ISP is who
actually owns the box.  That person is 3 layers removed from ATT.  So if
you call ATT to tell them about it, they won't talk to you because YOU
are not a customer and THEY are not a direct customer.  Best thing
they'll do is block the /24 of that non-direct customer and that will
only be if that non-direct customer's traffic is6 causing problems for
their routers.  Second best thing that'll happen is that they'll
actually tell NSP get your customer to fix their crap.  Most likely is
they'll tell you where to go (and it's hot there).

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Re: [expert] Unmountable Samba mounts and other oddities

2002-07-29 Thread Rob Gillen

Thanks for the input James.  I've actually tried some of the stuff that 
you mentioned.  When I experience the problem, the CPU isn't being taxed 
in any way.  Also, the mount point for the share is not removed and 
cannot be removed because the system thinks that the directory is 
already mounted (busy).  Restarting Samba doesn't change this status at 
all.  As I said earlier, it most likely is not a Samba problem.  It 
seemed to be more of a problem in the kernel, as that is where I expect 
filesystem mounting is tracked, etc.

Rob

James Sparenberg wrote:

this is neither a fix or a reason.  But it might enable you to
fix the situation without a reboot.  It sounds like what
happened was that samba was desperately trying to access a
non-existent share and took up all of your CPU cycles, thereby
fuzzing up your DHCPD.  What I would do is. 

1.  touch or otherwise recreate the share/directory that was
removed so that samba can find something. 

2.  Umount the share

3.  remove it from being automounted if that is being done.

4. restart Samba

5. Make sure it didn't try and remount it again.

6. Remove the share/directory from the other box.

This isn't a fix but a work around for keeping your system
running.  Then I'd go to the Samba site and report this as a bug
with as much detail as you have provided here.  (Maybe include
Samba version etc.)  It's definitely not catching an error and
putting itself into a loop of some kind.  






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Re: [expert] Unmountable Samba mounts and other oddities

2002-07-29 Thread Todd Lyons

Rob Gillen wrote on Sun, Jul 28, 2002 at 11:09:16PM -0400 :
 
 Some of you might already be familiar with the strange way that Linux 
 will often disallow umount-ing or listing directory contents of a 
 mounted smb share, returning the error text, Input/output error.  I 
 believe this error happens when a smb share is mounted, then that remote 
 share is removed.  This is a seriously annoying problem, because 
 restarting Samba does not solve the problem, nor does changing 
 runlevels.  Which is why I think it may be a kernel-level problem.  I 
 have tried changing the runlevel to [S]ingle level user, which is 
 running pretty much nothing save kernel processes and a simple shell. 
 At this level, a 'mount' command still shows the shares to be mounted, 
 and also at this level it is still impossible to umount them.  The only 

umount -f

 solution that I have found so far is rebooting, which I think is an 
 unacceptable way to handle such a problem.

Yes, it is a kernel issue.  mount is something that is done by the
kernel, but calling it a problem doesn't seem right.  It is a design
decision, not a problem.  It HAS to be in the kernel because of the way
that mounts are treated by Linux.

 Now the interesting part.  During the time that I could not remove the 
 unmountable mounted smb shares, the dhcpd daemon also seemed to start 
 malfunctioning.  On the Mandrake box, everything seemed fine (that is, I 
 restarted the dhcpd daemon which had no complaints during the restart). 
 But none of the other machines that get served on the network from it 
 were getting addresses.  Unfortunately, I wasn't able to sniff packets, 
 so I don't know what kind of communication (or lack thereof) was 
 occurring.  It was a frustrating exercise trying to figure out why my 
 other boxes were not getting addresses.  Strangely enough, when I 
 rebooted the Mandrake box again, everything worked as normal -- the 
 other boxes got their IP addresses fine.

Read /var/log/messages.  dhcpd may have started properly, but I'll bet
that it didn't stay running for whatever reason.

 
 I don't know for sure if the dhcpd thing was related to the smb mount 
 problem, but I'll try to repeat the problem and see if it recurs.  If 
 anybody has seen the same problem or something similar, I would 
 appreciate it if you could share how you resolved it.

I doubt it too, but I'm interested to see what /var/log/messages says
about it.  Also, did you do a 'netstat -lnp' to see if dhcpd was
actually bound to a port and listening?

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Re: [expert] 9.0's kernel?

2002-07-29 Thread Bryan Whitehead

Todd Lyons wrote:
 Bryan Whitehead wrote on Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 11:51:27AM -0700 :
 
You do realize that using this patch pretty much prevents the machine

from being used as a high capacity server.  It allow the kernel to be
This is totally untrue. In fact the preemptive kernel has been added to 
the 2.5 series and will be in 2.6 because it results in better 
preformance and lower latency. Much of userspace is spent in kernel 
space getting IO done. A preemptive kernel allows any process to be 
interrupted even while in the kernel. For example, when X needs to draw 
some stuff to the video card, that is done at a lower level in the 
kernel. A non-premptive kernel would not be able to interupt the process 
while it was in kernel space. The preeptive kernel can.
 
 
 How is interrupting I/O to redraw the desktop a benefit in performacne?

The thing is, the IO your interrupting IS the desktop redrawing itself, 
when a higher priority task needs the CPU, like nfs, apache, or a 
database, the IO from the desktop can be interupted to handle something 
else at a higher priority.

When any userspace program, wether it's X, xmms, apache, oracle, or 
anything makes a call to a kernel level routine, the CPU that the 
routine is running on is tied up till the routine is done. Even if it's 
just doing nothing - or it's doing something that will take a long time. 
As the plain vanilla kernel is now, it's only prempting a process when 
it's running in userspace. So when a process is running in kernel space 
it has exclusive rights to the entire machine - it cannot be interupted. 
Even when a high priority task needs todo something.

The side effect of course is everything feels smooth and snappy because 
IO that is 100times slower than RAM and the CPU gets interupted todo 
something else instead of just waiting for data. So overall the system 
will be faster for all processes combined.

If your desktop apps are running at the same priority as your services 
(such as apache or nfs) then your desktop apps will be able to intrupt 
your services more offen than before - as before they'd only be able to 
interupt in userspace. But if your services have a higher priority than 
your desktop then you should have better preformance.

 In perceived performance, yes.  In raw I/O?  I don't see it.  I do
 trust your opinion though Bryan, I would just like a little
 clarification.  I will go read those URL's.
 

Raw IO does increase. It's just your desktop (actually the schedular) is 
allowed to interupt more offen.

Setting priorities on processes is very important in a preemptive kernel 
to make sure low priority process don't get to interupt. The schedular 
will not interupt a process for a lower priority task in kernel, or 
userspace! (before a premptive kernel - interupting in kernel space was 
just a dream)

The best explination is the links tho... the best being on 
http://www.tech9.net/rml/linux/

Of couse searching on goolge is good also. ;)

Some more stuff to read:
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=5833 - kernel locking
http://vig.pearsoned.com/samplechapter/0130224960.pdf - Sample chapter
  on Solaris Kernel internals
http://www.tech9.net/rml/linux/ - more links of how linux preemptive
  kernel works
 
 
 Looks like interesting reading.
 
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Re: [expert] Unmountable Samba mounts and other oddities

2002-07-29 Thread et

can you reboot to run level 1? ie.; at lilo first prompt, type linux 1 
without the quotes? and try the same thing? or post the output from ps aux | 
grep sm or try a kill -9 {pidofwhatevercomesup} from theprevious command : 
ps aux | grep sm without the quotes and without { }.

On Monday 29 July 2002 05:42 pm, you wrote:
 Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately, the thing is that when I drop down
 to runlevel 1, pretty much everything is killed off except kernel-level
 processes. At that point, both Samba daemons, smbd and nmbd, are not
 running (checked using ps). If I try to do a 'ls' on the mounted
 directory, I get an Input/output error. If I try to umount it, I get a
 (I believe) Device busy error, which means that I will not be able to
 unmount it. If I try to use fuser to see what is holding it up, I get
 another error. Basically, I have no way of dealing with the mount once I
 get the Input/output error. Below is the script output of a few commands
 in runlevel 1 to demonstrate what I am talking about.

 ---
--- bash-2.05# ps -efl
 F S UID PID PPID C PRI NI ADDR SZ WCHAN STIME TTY TIME CMD
 100 S root 1 0 0 68 0 - 356 do_sel Jul15 ? 00:00:03 init
 040 S root 2 1 0 69 0 - 0 contex Jul15 ? 00:00:03 [keventd]
 040 S root 3 1 0 69 0 - 0 apm_ma Jul15 ? 00:00:00 [kapmd]
 040 S root 4 0 0 79 19 - 0 ksofti Jul15 ? 00:00:01 [ksoftirqd_CPU0]
 040 S root 5 0 0 69 0 - 0 kswapd Jul15 ? 00:01:14 [kswapd]
 040 S root 6 0 0 69 0 - 0 bdflus Jul15 ? 00:00:00 [bdflush]
 040 S root 7 0 0 69 0 - 0 kupdat Jul15 ? 00:00:00 [kupdated]
 040 S root 8 1 0 59 -20 - 0 md_thr Jul15 ? 00:00:00 [mdrecoveryd]
 040 S root 14 1 0 69 0 - 0 down_i Jul15 ? 00:00:00 [scsi_eh_0]
 040 S root 17 1 0 69 0 - 0 end Jul15 ? 00:00:01 [kjournald]
 040 S root 247 1 0 69 0 - 0 end Jul15 ? 00:00:00 [kjournald]
 040 S root 250 1 0 69 0 - 0 end Jul15 ? 00:00:00 [kjournald]
 040 S root 251 1 0 69 0 - 0 end Jul15 ? 00:00:01 [kjournald]
 040 S root 252 1 0 69 0 - 0 end Jul15 ? 00:00:04 [kjournald]
 040 S root 253 1 0 69 0 - 0 end Jul15 ? 00:00:03 [kjournald]
 040 S root 4369 1 0 69 0 - 356 wait4 17:01 tty1 00:00:00 init
 000 S root 4370 4369 0 69 0 - 579 wait4 17:01 tty1 00:00:00 /bin/sh
 100 S root 4389 4370 0 72 0 - 348 read_c 17:05 tty1 00:00:00 script -f
 /pub/rlev1.txt
 040 S root 4390 4389 0 73 0 - 350 read_c 17:05 tty1 00:00:00 script -f
 /pub/rlev1.txt
 000 S root 4391 4390 0 75 0 - 575 wait4 17:05 pts/0 00:00:00 bash -i
 000 R root 4393 4391 0 76 0 - 770 - 17:05 pts/0 00:00:00 ps -efl

 bash-2.05# netstat -a
 Active Internet connections (servers and established)
 Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State
 Active UNIX domain sockets (servers and established)
 Proto RefCnt Flags Type State I-Node Path

 bash-2.05# mount
 /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw)
 none on /proc type proc (rw)
 none on /dev type devfs (rw)
 none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,mode=0620)
 none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
 /dev/hda8 on /home type ext3 (rw)
 /mnt/cdrom on /mnt/cdrom type supermount
 (ro,dev=/dev/hdc,fs=iso9660,--,iocharset=iso8859-1)
 /mnt/floppy on /mnt/floppy type supermount
 (rw,sync,dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850)
 /mnt/zip on /mnt/zip type supermount
 (rw,sync,dev=/dev/sdb4,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850)
 /dev/sda5 on /opt type ext3 (rw)
 /dev/hdb1 on /pub type ext3 (rw)
 /dev/hda6 on /usr type ext3 (rw)
 /dev/hda7 on /var type ext3 (rw)
 none on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw,devmode=0664,devgid=43)
 //RGILLEN/shared on /home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/shared type smbfs (0)

 bash-2.05# umount /home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/shared
 umount: /home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/shared: device is busy

 bash-2.05# ls /home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/shared
 ls: /home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/shared: Input/output error

 bash-2.05# touch /home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/shared
 touch: setting times of `/home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/shared':
 Input/output error
 ---


 Note that I did this on my Mandrake box at work (I was experiencing the
 problem at home). To reproduce the problem, I first used smbmount to
 mount a share on a Win2K box. Then, I disabled the network connection in
 the Windows control panel on the machine that had the share. At this
 point, any shells on the Mandrake box that try to do anything
 interactive with the mounts lock up. After closing what I can, I
 telinit'd down to runlevel 1 (from 5), which is where I ran the commands
 that you see above. You'll notice that none of the Samba daemons are
 running (nor could they without the network running). Even after I
 return to runlevel 5 and restart the networking on the Win2K box, I
 cannot umount the share. I can do nothing with it. At this point, the
 only way to remove the mount (that I know of) is to reboot the machine.
 This is the main reason that I suggested that it might be a kernel-level
 problem -- the kernel, which controls 

Re: [expert] 9.0's kernel?

2002-07-29 Thread nDiScReEt

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On Monday 29 July 2002 1:51 pm, Bryan Whitehead wrote:
 while it was in kernel space. The preeptive kernel can.

 Example of fully premptive kernel: Solaris, among many others


 Some more stuff to read:
 http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=5833 - kernel locking
 http://vig.pearsoned.com/samplechapter/0130224960.pdf - Sample chapter
   on Solaris Kernel internals
 http://www.tech9.net/rml/linux/ - more links of how linux preemptive
   kernel works

Thank you, Bryan. I will use this information and create a preemptive kernel 
on my system to experience the difference.

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Re: [expert] Unmountable Samba mounts and other oddities

2002-07-29 Thread PlugHead

I have this problem all the time:

'umount /mount/point -l'

should do the trick.

-Jason

(And once again, my first post on the topic was dropped... grr...)

On Monday 29 July 2002 05:42 pm, Rob Gillen wrote:
 Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately, the thing is that when I drop down
 to runlevel 1, pretty much everything is killed off except kernel-level
 processes. 

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[expert] Local DNS

2002-07-29 Thread nDiScReEt

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I am having a hard time with a concept. I want my internal network to have a 
domain (which I plan on registering at a later date). I have another domain 
registered with namezero. I want to have a url for each of my internal 
computers like host.domain.com. Whether it be internal or external. I just 
don't know how to do this. I don't really know where to start. Am I to 
transfer my existing domain to my network server? What am I to do? 

Sincerely,
Lost in the Web


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Re: [expert] Hack attack or not?

2002-07-29 Thread James Sparenberg

On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 13:20:52 -0700
Todd Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 James Sparenberg wrote on Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 08:50:24PM -0700
 : On the subject of Crackers.  Note this IP block owned by ATT 
  12.234.0.0/24  If been getting hit heavily from there by a
  number
 
 You're making the assumption that those boxes are actually owned
 by ATT. In reality it's probably a customer of ATT.  Or even
 worse, a customer or a customer of ATT.
 
 Let me put it in another perspective.  ATT is selling to NSP
 which is selling a portion of that to ISP.  One of the customers
 of ISP is who actually owns the box.  That person is 3 layers
 removed from ATT.  So if you call ATT to tell them about it,
 they won't talk to you because YOU are not a customer and THEY
 are not a direct customer.  Best thing they'll do is block the
 /24 of that non-direct customer and that will only be if that
 non-direct customer's traffic is6 causing problems for their
 routers.  Second best thing that'll happen is that they'll
 actually tell NSP get your customer to fix their crap.  Most
 likely is they'll tell you where to go (and it's hot there).
 
 Blue skies... Todd


Actually in many ways I was hopping that the user agreement I had
shoved at me recently had some teeth.  One of the things that is
says you can get your service suspended for is having a box that
is infected and or attempting to infect whether manually or on
it's on other boxes on the network (paraphrased but the idea is
the same as the legalise.  The warning is place here because it is
such a large number of boxes that were hitting mine it wasn't
funny and once I block one box... another takes over.  It's moved
now from 12.234 to 12.253... *sigh*  Can't block 12... I'm on that
subnet!!


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Re: [expert] PHP vs MYSQL

2002-07-29 Thread Ken Thompson

On Sunday 28 July 2002 07:36 am, Ric Tibbetts wrote:
 Well, I guess it had to happen. If you hang around this stuff long
 enough, eventually you're going to need a database.

 I know, this may be a really subjective question, but what's the
 comparison between php  mysql? Is one better/worse, easier/harder than
 the other? Or are they just different?

 Does one have strengths/weaknesses over/under the other? Or are they
 both good, but designed to do two different jobs?

 This is probably all documented somewhere. Maybe some kind soul could
 point me at a site somewhere, and I could just study all this myself. ;)

 Thanks! As always, any pointers are greatly appreciated.

 Ric
Ric,
MySql is the database and PHP is a scripting language used to access it.
If you want to use MySql as a backend and have a frontend GUI that is easy to 
use try KNODA.
Knoda works very much like M$ Access using visual tables, forms, reports and 
queries.
It can be found here:
http://hk-classes.sourceforge.net and
http://knoda.sourceforge.net
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[expert] Can't get phpgroupware working

2002-07-29 Thread ddc_prueba2

Hello world!

I just untar and run http://127.0.0.1/phpgroupware/setup/index.php to
create a header.inc.php file. As explained in installation doc, I did
(as postgres user):
/usr/bin/createdb phpgroupware
/usr/bin/createuser phpgwuser --pwprompt

So far so good, but it seems to work with phpgroupware itself (I can
re-setup header.inc.php from web interface) but I cannot connect to
postgresql database when I try to login. Error is:

Warning: Unable to connect to PostgreSQL server: FATAL 1: No pg_hba.conf
entry for host 127.0.0.1, user phpgwuser, database phpgroupware in
/var/www/html/phpgroupware/phpgwapi/inc/class.db_pgsql.inc.php on line
89


I know user is ok because I connect from command line with:

psql phpgroupware phpgwuser


Also, I know postgresql is listening to TCP/IP (it is configured so) as
long as phpPgAdmin works ok.

I'm suspecting that file pg_hba.conf might be the culprit as I put
access restriction to local all trust (I couldn't make it work rigth
with another config).



I'm going nuts with all this and moreover Google does not want to be my
friend on this subject (I can't get a similar case solved to have a hint
:-((

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Re: [expert] Unmountable Samba mounts and other oddities

2002-07-29 Thread Rob Gillen

This worked the first time that I tried it, but there are cases when it 
does not work.  For example, if after mounting a Windows share the 
connection gets broken, the mount will not work, and you might see 
things like command-line lockups during directory listings, etc.  At 
this point, I believe you can successfully use a umount -l to unmount 
it.  When I tried it, the mount was not immediately removed from the 
list of mounted filesystems via the mount command.  I probably moved too 
fast trying to figure out what was going on, because I shot back to 
runlevel 1 (from 5), and it is from there that I noticed that the mount 
point was no longer listed with the mount command.

Now, if instead of immediately using umount -l after the network 
connection is broken you decide to restart the Samba server daemons, 
then you will be unable to use the mount -l command.  Here is a script 
output of what I see when I try this (runlevel 1 after Samba restart):

-

bash-2.05# mount
/dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw)
none on /proc type proc (rw)
none on /dev type devfs (rw)
none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,mode=0620)
none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
/dev/hda8 on /home type ext3 (rw)
/mnt/cdrom on /mnt/cdrom type supermount 
(ro,dev=/dev/hdc,fs=iso9660,--,iocharset=iso8859-1)
/mnt/floppy on /mnt/floppy type supermount 
(rw,sync,dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850)
/mnt/zip on /mnt/zip type supermount 
(rw,sync,dev=/dev/sdb4,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850)
/dev/sda5 on /opt type ext3 (rw)
/dev/hdb1 on /pub type ext3 (rw)
/dev/hda6 on /usr type ext3 (rw)
/dev/hda7 on /var type ext3 (rw)
none on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw,devmode=0664,devgid=43)
//RGILLEN/shared on /home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/shared type smbfs (0)

bash-2.05# umount /home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/share
umount: /home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/share: not found

bash-2.05# umount -l /home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/share
umount: /home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/share: not found

-

One note here that may not be evident is that the mount point did exist.

ROB


PlugHead wrote:

I have this problem all the time:

'umount /mount/point -l'

should do the trick.

-Jason

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Re: [expert] Unmountable Samba mounts and other oddities

2002-07-29 Thread James Sparenberg

Jason,
   Not to seem dense.  (I really do try not to.) is that a -1
(one) or a -l (ell).  Second where did you find this out?  It's
seems to be a neat way to umount a stuck mount, I'd like to read
more.

James


On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:44:08 -0400
PlugHead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have this problem all the time:
 
 'umount /mount/point -l'
 
 should do the trick.
 
 -Jason
 
 (And once again, my first post on the topic was dropped...
 grr...)
 
 On Monday 29 July 2002 05:42 pm, Rob Gillen wrote:
  Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately, the thing is that when I
  drop down to runlevel 1, pretty much everything is killed off
  except kernel-level processes. 
 
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Re: [expert] Unmountable Samba mounts and other oddities

2002-07-29 Thread Todd Lyons

Rob Gillen wrote on Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 05:42:12PM -0400 :
 Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately, the thing is that when I drop down 
 to runlevel 1, pretty much everything is killed off except kernel-level 
 processes. At that point, both Samba daemons, smbd and nmbd, are not 
 running (checked using ps). If I try to do a 'ls' on the mounted 
 directory, I get an Input/output error. If I try to umount it, I get a 

Doesn't matter if smbd is running.  This is a MOUNT.  It is handled
directly by the kernel for outbound samba requests for accessing a
remote Samba or NT or Windows share.  smbd is a program that runs in
userland that provides a service for inbound samba requests where the
program LOOKS like an NT server.

 (I believe) Device busy error, which means that I will not be able to 
 unmount it. If I try to use fuser to see what is holding it up, I get 
 //RGILLEN/shared on /home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/shared type smbfs (0)

umount -f /home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/shared

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[expert] supermount problem?

2002-07-29 Thread Darren King

I am running 8.2 with the cooker kernel.  With the old kernel, I had no
problems accessing cd's but now I get Stale NFS file handle when I try
to ls under the cdrom directory.

Is this a known bug?  Is there a known fix?

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Re: [expert] 9.0's kernel?

2002-07-29 Thread Todd Lyons

Bryan Whitehead wrote on Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 11:51:27AM -0700 :
 
 You do realize that using this patch pretty much prevents the machine
 from being used as a high capacity server.  It allow the kernel to be
 This is totally untrue. In fact the preemptive kernel has been added to 
 the 2.5 series and will be in 2.6 because it results in better 
 preformance and lower latency. Much of userspace is spent in kernel 
 space getting IO done. A preemptive kernel allows any process to be 
 interrupted even while in the kernel. For example, when X needs to draw 
 some stuff to the video card, that is done at a lower level in the 
 kernel. A non-premptive kernel would not be able to interupt the process 
 while it was in kernel space. The preeptive kernel can.

How is interrupting I/O to redraw the desktop a benefit in performacne?
In perceived performance, yes.  In raw I/O?  I don't see it.  I do
trust your opinion though Bryan, I would just like a little
clarification.  I will go read those URL's.

 Some more stuff to read:
 http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=5833 - kernel locking
 http://vig.pearsoned.com/samplechapter/0130224960.pdf - Sample chapter
   on Solaris Kernel internals
 http://www.tech9.net/rml/linux/ - more links of how linux preemptive
   kernel works

Looks like interesting reading.

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Re: [expert] Hack attack or not?

2002-07-29 Thread James Sparenberg

On Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:06:02 -0700
James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 13:20:52 -0700
 Todd Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  James Sparenberg wrote on Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 08:50:24PM
  -0700: On the subject of Crackers.  Note this IP block owned
  by ATT  12.234.0.0/24  If been getting hit heavily from there
  by a number
  
Ok Found out what it is.  New WinIIS virus called code blue
and it's re-spreading like wildfire ( at least in the realm of ATT
customers).  Starts out checking the class C then the class B then
the class A of it's own subnet.  Won't affect anyone using *nix
but it seems to already be taking down a number of University
networks.  In fact it seems to be able to install itself using a
hole in the WinIIS server.  *sigh*... Note to if you follow this
link it seems that it has spread through ATT before.

http://cert.uni-stuttgart.de/archive/incidents/2001/09/msg00157.html

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Re: [expert] Unmountable Samba mounts and other oddities

2002-07-29 Thread Rob Gillen

I imagine you wanted to grep the output of ps to find the smbd server, 
but at runlevel 1 nothing is really running (by default).  I get pretty 
much the same thing from ps when I have the problem and when I do not. 
 The first listing is with the problem (telinit 1 first).  The second 
listing is after a reboot into runlevel 1:

---

bash-2.05# ps aux
USER   PID %CPU %MEM   VSZ  RSS TTY  STAT START   TIME COMMAND
root 1  0.0  0.1  1424  380 ?SJul15   0:03 init
root 2  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   Jul15   0:03 [keventd]
root 3  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   Jul15   0:00 [kapmd]
root 4  0.0  0.0 00 ?SWN  Jul15   0:01 
[ksoftirqd_CPU0]
root 5  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   Jul15   1:14 [kswapd]
root 6  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   Jul15   0:00 [bdflush]
root 7  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   Jul15   0:00 [kupdated]
root 8  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW  Jul15   0:00 
[mdrecoveryd]
root14  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   Jul15   0:00 [scsi_eh_0]
root17  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   Jul15   0:01 [kjournald]
root   247  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   Jul15   0:00 [kjournald]
root   250  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   Jul15   0:00 [kjournald]
root   251  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   Jul15   0:01 [kjournald]
root   252  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   Jul15   0:04 [kjournald]
root   253  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   Jul15   0:03 [kjournald]
root  8844  0.0  0.1  1424  404 tty1 S18:28   0:00 init
root  8845  0.0  0.4  2312 1212 tty1 S18:28   0:00 /bin/sh
root  8846  0.0  0.1  1392  456 tty1 S18:29   0:00 script -f 
/pub/rl
root  8847  0.2  0.1  1400  500 tty1 S18:29   0:00 script -f 
/pub/rl
root  8848  0.5  0.4  2296 1160 pts/0S18:29   0:00 bash -i
root  8849  0.0  0.2  2620  696 pts/0R18:29   0:00 ps aux

---

bash-2.05# ps aux
USER   PID %CPU %MEM   VSZ  RSS TTY  STAT START   TIME COMMAND
root 1  5.0  0.1  1412  508 ?S18:53   0:03 init
root 2  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   18:53   0:00 [keventd]
root 3  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   18:53   0:00 [kapmd]
root 4  0.0  0.0 00 ?SWN  18:53   0:00 
[ksoftirqd_CPU0]
root 5  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   18:53   0:00 [kswapd]
root 6  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   18:53   0:00 [bdflush]
root 7  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   18:53   0:00 [kupdated]
root 8  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW  18:53   0:00 
[mdrecoveryd]
root14  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   18:53   0:00 [scsi_eh_0]
root17  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   18:53   0:00 [kjournald]
root   242  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   18:53   0:00 [kjournald]
root   245  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   18:53   0:00 [kjournald]
root   246  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   18:53   0:00 [kjournald]
root   247  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   18:53   0:00 [kjournald]
root   248  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   18:53   0:00 [kjournald]
root   575  0.0  0.1  1412  508 tty1 S18:53   0:00 init
root   576  0.1  0.4  2312 1208 tty1 S18:53   0:00 /bin/sh
root   577  0.0  0.1  1392  456 tty1 S18:54   0:00 script 
/pub/rlev1
root   578  0.0  0.1  1400  500 tty1 S18:54   0:00 script 
/pub/rlev1
root   579  0.2  0.4  2296 1160 pts/0S18:54   0:00 bash -i
root   580  0.0  0.2  2620  696 pts/0R18:54   0:00 ps aux

---

They are identical for all intents and purposes.


et wrote:

can you reboot to run level 1? ie.; at lilo first prompt, type linux 1 
without the quotes? and try the same thing? or post the output from ps aux | 
grep sm or try a kill -9 {pidofwhatevercomesup} from theprevious command : 
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[expert] Re: drakconf Mandrake 8.2

2002-07-29 Thread Vincent Danen

On Fri Jul 26, 2002 at 01:39:20PM +0200, Info wrote:

 After upgrading to mdk 8.2 i got diffrent problems.
 
 1) drakconf
 
 [root@dani root]# drakconf
 Undefined subroutine Gtk::Object::new called at /usr/X11R6/bin/drakconf.real 
 line 60
 [root@dani root]#

Have you upgraded to the latest drakxtools in updates?

 2) rpmdrake if i try to ad sources (i think its an urpmi prob)
 
 [root@dani root]# urpmi
 rpmtools object version 4.2 does not match bootstrap parameter 2.3 at 
 /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i386-linux/DynaLoader.pm line 225.
 Compilation failed in require at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/urpm.pm line 
 95.
 BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/urpm.pm 
 line 95.
 Compilation failed in require at /usr/sbin/urpmi line 20.
 BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/sbin/urpmi line 20.
 [root@dani root]#

I'm not sure what this one is; I've never seen this error before.
Actually, taking a quick look, do you have the rpmtools package
installed?  What does rpm -q rpmtools give you?  It looks like
you're missing that package.

 Please give me a quick hint/help whats wrong
 Processor: Pentium III (Katmai) 551MHz 
 Kernel: 2.4.17 
 XFree86 Version: 4.2.0 X  resolution: 1024x768
 running kde3 and kde 2.1/2x
 
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Re: [expert] Unmountable Samba mounts and other oddities

2002-07-29 Thread Rob Gillen

Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately, the thing is that when I drop down 
to runlevel 1, pretty much everything is killed off except kernel-level 
processes. At that point, both Samba daemons, smbd and nmbd, are not 
running (checked using ps). If I try to do a 'ls' on the mounted 
directory, I get an Input/output error. If I try to umount it, I get a 
(I believe) Device busy error, which means that I will not be able to 
unmount it. If I try to use fuser to see what is holding it up, I get 
another error. Basically, I have no way of dealing with the mount once I 
get the Input/output error. Below is the script output of a few commands 
in runlevel 1 to demonstrate what I am talking about.

--
bash-2.05# ps -efl
F S UID PID PPID C PRI NI ADDR SZ WCHAN STIME TTY TIME CMD
100 S root 1 0 0 68 0 - 356 do_sel Jul15 ? 00:00:03 init
040 S root 2 1 0 69 0 - 0 contex Jul15 ? 00:00:03 [keventd]
040 S root 3 1 0 69 0 - 0 apm_ma Jul15 ? 00:00:00 [kapmd]
040 S root 4 0 0 79 19 - 0 ksofti Jul15 ? 00:00:01 [ksoftirqd_CPU0]
040 S root 5 0 0 69 0 - 0 kswapd Jul15 ? 00:01:14 [kswapd]
040 S root 6 0 0 69 0 - 0 bdflus Jul15 ? 00:00:00 [bdflush]
040 S root 7 0 0 69 0 - 0 kupdat Jul15 ? 00:00:00 [kupdated]
040 S root 8 1 0 59 -20 - 0 md_thr Jul15 ? 00:00:00 [mdrecoveryd]
040 S root 14 1 0 69 0 - 0 down_i Jul15 ? 00:00:00 [scsi_eh_0]
040 S root 17 1 0 69 0 - 0 end Jul15 ? 00:00:01 [kjournald]
040 S root 247 1 0 69 0 - 0 end Jul15 ? 00:00:00 [kjournald]
040 S root 250 1 0 69 0 - 0 end Jul15 ? 00:00:00 [kjournald]
040 S root 251 1 0 69 0 - 0 end Jul15 ? 00:00:01 [kjournald]
040 S root 252 1 0 69 0 - 0 end Jul15 ? 00:00:04 [kjournald]
040 S root 253 1 0 69 0 - 0 end Jul15 ? 00:00:03 [kjournald]
040 S root 4369 1 0 69 0 - 356 wait4 17:01 tty1 00:00:00 init
000 S root 4370 4369 0 69 0 - 579 wait4 17:01 tty1 00:00:00 /bin/sh
100 S root 4389 4370 0 72 0 - 348 read_c 17:05 tty1 00:00:00 script -f 
/pub/rlev1.txt
040 S root 4390 4389 0 73 0 - 350 read_c 17:05 tty1 00:00:00 script -f 
/pub/rlev1.txt
000 S root 4391 4390 0 75 0 - 575 wait4 17:05 pts/0 00:00:00 bash -i
000 R root 4393 4391 0 76 0 - 770 - 17:05 pts/0 00:00:00 ps -efl

bash-2.05# netstat -a
Active Internet connections (servers and established)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State
Active UNIX domain sockets (servers and established)
Proto RefCnt Flags Type State I-Node Path

bash-2.05# mount
/dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw)
none on /proc type proc (rw)
none on /dev type devfs (rw)
none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,mode=0620)
none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
/dev/hda8 on /home type ext3 (rw)
/mnt/cdrom on /mnt/cdrom type supermount 
(ro,dev=/dev/hdc,fs=iso9660,--,iocharset=iso8859-1)
/mnt/floppy on /mnt/floppy type supermount 
(rw,sync,dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850)
/mnt/zip on /mnt/zip type supermount 
(rw,sync,dev=/dev/sdb4,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850)
/dev/sda5 on /opt type ext3 (rw)
/dev/hdb1 on /pub type ext3 (rw)
/dev/hda6 on /usr type ext3 (rw)
/dev/hda7 on /var type ext3 (rw)
none on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw,devmode=0664,devgid=43)
//RGILLEN/shared on /home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/shared type smbfs (0)

bash-2.05# umount /home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/shared
umount: /home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/shared: device is busy

bash-2.05# ls /home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/shared
ls: /home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/shared: Input/output error

bash-2.05# touch /home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/shared
touch: setting times of `/home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/shared': 
Input/output error
---

Note that I did this on my Mandrake box at work (I was experiencing the 
problem at home). To reproduce the problem, I first used smbmount to 
mount a share on a Win2K box. Then, I disabled the network connection in 
the Windows control panel on the machine that had the share. At this 
point, any shells on the Mandrake box that try to do anything 
interactive with the mounts lock up. After closing what I can, I 
telinit'd down to runlevel 1 (from 5), which is where I ran the commands 
that you see above. You'll notice that none of the Samba daemons are 
running (nor could they without the network running). Even after I 
return to runlevel 5 and restart the networking on the Win2K box, I 
cannot umount the share. I can do nothing with it. At this point, the 
only way to remove the mount (that I know of) is to reboot the machine. 
This is the main reason that I suggested that it might be a kernel-level 
problem -- the kernel, which controls filesystem mounts, will not 
release the mount point under any circumstances. So, if I am correct 
about it being a kernel problem, I am wondering if it happens only with 
Mandrake kernels.

Unfortunately, since I am at work, I couldn't reproduce the dhcpd 
problem that I think might be related. I thought that the problem might 
be affecting networking on the Mandrake box, but 

Re: [expert] Unmountable Samba mounts and other oddities

2002-07-29 Thread Rob Gillen

Hi Todd,

Actually, if smbd is responsible for inbound smb requests, then it 
probably isn't relevant.  My problem occurs when I connect to a Windows 
machine from my Mandrake machine, and then lose the network connection 
between them (power loss, windows machine removed from network, routing 
problems, etc.).  But the real problem doesn't occur until after 
restarting the Samba daemons when the network connection is broken.  I 
know, the easiest way to fix this problem is to avoid restarting Samba. 
 But, I am really only using that example to demonstrate what I believe 
is a bigger problem, but whether or not it occurs with a generic kernel 
or a Mandrake one, I do not know (yet).

Also, using 'umount -f' does not work after the Samba restart.  Whether 
it works prior to that, I'm not sure (haven't had time to check).  The 
following is a clip from a script capture trying it out (along with a 
few other things):

--

bash-2.05# mount | grep smbfs
//RGILLEN/shared on /home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/shared type smbfs (0)

bash-2.05# ls /home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/shared
ls: /home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/shared: Input/output error

bash-2.05# umount -f /home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/shared
umount2: Device or resource busy
umount: //RGILLEN/shared: not found
umount: /home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/shared: Illegal seek

bash-2.05# umount -l /home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/shared

bash-2.05# mount | grep smbfs
//RGILLEN/shared on /home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/shared type smbfs (0)

bash-2.05# umount -f /home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/shared
umount2: Invalid argument
umount: //RGILLEN/shared: not found
umount: /home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/shared: Illegal seek

bash-2.05# rmdir /home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/shared/

bash-2.05# umount -f /home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/shared
umount2: No such file or directory
umount: //RGILLEN/shared: not found
umount: /home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/shared: Illegal seek

--

ROB


Todd Lyons wrote:

Rob Gillen wrote on Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 05:42:12PM -0400 :

Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately, the thing is that when I drop down 
to runlevel 1, pretty much everything is killed off except kernel-level 
processes. At that point, both Samba daemons, smbd and nmbd, are not 
running (checked using ps). If I try to do a 'ls' on the mounted 
directory, I get an Input/output error. If I try to umount it, I get a 


Doesn't matter if smbd is running.  This is a MOUNT.  It is handled
directly by the kernel for outbound samba requests for accessing a
remote Samba or NT or Windows share.  smbd is a program that runs in
userland that provides a service for inbound samba requests where the
program LOOKS like an NT server.

(I believe) Device busy error, which means that I will not be able to 
unmount it. If I try to use fuser to see what is holding it up, I get 
//RGILLEN/shared on /home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/shared type smbfs (0)


umount -f /home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/shared






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Re: [expert] Hack attack or not?

2002-07-29 Thread Vincent Danen

On Sun Jul 28, 2002 at 10:17:41PM -0700, David Guntner wrote:

 Thanks to all for the suggestions of snort and tripwire.  Once I get my 
 system back up on its feet, I plan on installing both to keep an eye on my 
 system.

Both are extremely good tools and should be a part of everyone's
overall security plan.

 I'm also going to make sure that my FTP server and sshd server are 
 listening to non-standard ports, to make it harder for someone to find an 
 access point.

This is trivial.  An nmap scan will give an attacker an idea within
seconds of where these ports have been re-located.  Security through
obscurity is no security at all.  You're better off to disable FTP if
you don't need it, or if you do, configure your firewall to only allow
connections from certain IPs.  Likewise for ssh.  If you're making it
semi-public (ie. you need to be able to connect from
previously-unknown IPs), you may as well leave them where they are and
work on hardening other parts of your system.  Putting FTP on port
2020 and SSH on port 4022 will only give you a false sense of
security.

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Re: [expert] Unmountable Samba mounts and other oddities

2002-07-29 Thread PlugHead

(Yet Another Re-posted Message...)

James,

It's -l (ell) as in 'lazy'.  From man umount:

   -l Lazy   unmount.  Detach  the  filesystem  from  the
  filesystem hierarchy now, and  cleanup  all  refer­
  ences  to  the filesystem as soon as it is not busy
  anymore.  (Requires kernel 2.4.11 or later.)

This has always worked for me, but it may be a different problem.  My problem
seems to be that our NT server is disconnecting shares after a timeout
period, and Samba doesn't automatically re-connect.  This seems to occurr
with Samba (at least) 2.2.3 - 2.2.5...

Anyhow, Todd's suggestion of -f (force) is probably more appropriate... :)

-Jason

On Tuesday 30 July 2002 07:58 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
 Jason,
Not to seem dense.  (I really do try not to.) is that a -1
 (one) or a -l (ell).  Second where did you find this out?  It's
 seems to be a neat way to umount a stuck mount, I'd like to read
 more.

  'umount /mount/point -l'

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Re: [expert] Hack attack or not?

2002-07-29 Thread David Relson

At 08:24 PM 7/30/02, you wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:06:02 -0700
James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 13:20:52 -0700
  Todd Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   James Sparenberg wrote on Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 08:50:24PM
   -0700: On the subject of Crackers.  Note this IP block owned
   by ATT  12.234.0.0/24  If been getting hit heavily from there
   by a number
  
Ok Found out what it is.  New WinIIS virus called code blue
and it's re-spreading like wildfire ( at least in the realm of ATT
customers).  Starts out checking the class C then the class B then
the class A of it's own subnet.  Won't affect anyone using *nix
but it seems to already be taking down a number of University
networks.  In fact it seems to be able to install itself using a
hole in the WinIIS server.  *sigh*... Note to if you follow this
link it seems that it has spread through ATT before.

http://cert.uni-stuttgart.de/archive/incidents/2001/09/msg00157.html

James


A new virus?  Not if memory serves me correctly.

Code Blue has been around almost as long as code red - since last year, at 
the least.

The URL you give is dated Sep 18, 2001 - over 10 months ago.

David




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Re: [expert] Hack attack or not?

2002-07-29 Thread James Sparenberg

On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:20:04 -0400
David Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At 08:24 PM 7/30/02, you wrote:
 On Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:06:02 -0700
 James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 13:20:52 -0700
   Todd Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
James Sparenberg wrote on Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 08:50:24PM
-0700: On the subject of Crackers.  Note this IP block
owned by ATT  12.234.0.0/24  If been getting hit heavily
from there by a number
   
 Ok Found out what it is.  New WinIIS virus called code blue
 and it's re-spreading like wildfire ( at least in the realm of
 ATT customers).  Starts out checking the class C then the class
 B then the class A of it's own subnet.  Won't affect anyone
 using *nix but it seems to already be taking down a number of
 University networks.  In fact it seems to be able to install
 itself using a hole in the WinIIS server.  *sigh*... Note to if
 you follow this link it seems that it has spread through ATT
 before.
 
 http://cert.uni-stuttgart.de/archive/incidents/2001/09/msg0015
 7.html
 
 James
 
 
 A new virus?  Not if memory serves me correctly.
 
 Code Blue has been around almost as long as code red - since
 last year, at the least.
 
 The URL you give is dated Sep 18, 2001 - over 10 months ago.
 
 David

Your right I meant to say re-Newed virus... my bad.

James

 
 
 



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Re: [expert] Hack attack or not?

2002-07-29 Thread David Guntner

Vincent Danen grabbed a keyboard and wrote:

 On Sun Jul 28, 2002 at 10:17:41PM -0700, David Guntner wrote:
 
  I'm also going to make sure that my FTP server and sshd server are 
  listening to non-standard ports, to make it harder for someone to find an 
  access point.
 
 This is trivial.  An nmap scan will give an attacker an idea within
 seconds of where these ports have been re-located.  Security through
 obscurity is no security at all.  You're better off to disable FTP if
 you don't need it, or if you do, configure your firewall to only allow
 connections from certain IPs.  Likewise for ssh.  If you're making it
 semi-public (ie. you need to be able to connect from
 previously-unknown IPs), you may as well leave them where they are and
 work on hardening other parts of your system.  Putting FTP on port
 2020 and SSH on port 4022 will only give you a false sense of
 security.

I aggee with you that security through obscurity is no security at all.  
However, adding obscurity as a layer on top of existing security certainly 
doesn't hurt anything. :-)

I would do as you suggest above, except for the fact that I have no way of 
knowing what IP addresses I'm going to want to connect from when I'm 
traveling away from home, and I have a few close friends that I've given 
accounts to the machine on.  They need to be able to access the system from 
whatever IP their ISP gives them when they login.  I do have sshd 
configured to only honor protocol 2 connections, which I understand helps 
quite a bit.  FTP is needed sometimes, though not often enough that I'll 
leave it open for now.  File transfers *can* be done through ssh, and I'm 
going to tell my friends that do access the system that if they want to 
upload/download a file, they'd better get ssh clients that support file 
transfer.

   --Dave
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[expert] Snort portscan log

2002-07-29 Thread Bill

I finally installed snort and I just got this in my portscan log file.

Jul 29 19:25:46 211.172.121.210:3155 - 66.47.48.54:515 SYN **S* 
Jul 29 19:25:47 211.172.121.210:3643 - 66.47.48.54:113 SYN **S* 
Jul 29 19:25:48 211.172.121.210:3644 - 66.47.48.54:23 SYN **S* 
Jul 29 19:25:46 211.172.121.210:3152 - 66.47.48.51:515 SYN **S* 
Jul 29 19:25:49 211.172.121.210:3645 - 66.47.48.51:113 SYN **S* 
Jul 29 19:25:50 211.172.121.210:3646 - 66.47.48.51:23 SYN **S* 

Does this meen someone is looking for a hole ?



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Re: [expert] Unmountable Samba mounts and other oddities

2002-07-29 Thread Jason Bowman


From the man pages for unmount:
 -l Lazy unmount. Detach the filesystem from the filesystem hierarchy  
 
now, and  cleanup all references to the filesystem as soon as 
it is not busy anymore.  (Requires ker­nel 2.4.11 or later.)

 - Jason B.

On Tuesday 30 July 2002 07:58 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
 Jason,
Not to seem dense.  (I really do try not to.) is that a -1
 (one) or a -l (ell).  Second where did you find this out?  It's
 seems to be a neat way to umount a stuck mount, I'd like to read
 more.

 James


 On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:44:08 -0400

 PlugHead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have this problem all the time:
 
  'umount /mount/point -l'
 
  should do the trick.
 
  -Jason
 
  (And once again, my first post on the topic was dropped...
  grr...)
 
  On Monday 29 July 2002 05:42 pm, Rob Gillen wrote:
   Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately, the thing is that when I
   drop down to runlevel 1, pretty much everything is killed off
   except kernel-level processes.
 
  =
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[expert] web cam

2002-07-29 Thread Bill

I recently setup a web cam so my future puppy owners could watch there pups 
grow up http://billbeau.net/cam.htm im using camstream. What it does is take 
a picture every 10 seconds or whatever time you tell it to do so then it 
ftp's it to my server. I have a staic link to that jpg file from my webserver 
directory and you can see it on the web. is there a software package that I 
can run to show realtime video. IM using a Logitech QuickCam Pro 3000 USB 
connected to a laptop in my garage which is on my network using a wireless 
pcmcia network card. The laptop is running RH7.3 and my server is running 
Mandrake 7.0



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