Re: [expert] NVIDIA Driver help needed Mandrake9 installation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 15 December 2002 06:07 pm, s wrote: > On Sunday 15 December 2002 7:34 pm, you wrote: > > On Sunday 15 December 2002 03:47 pm, s wrote: > > > double check your Config-4 file that it has nvidia as the driver > > > under device section and Load "GLX" under module section. Then: > > > modprobe nvidia (the driver has changed from NVdriver to > > > nvidia). And try to startx. If it works, put: /sbin/modprobe > > > nvidia in your /etc/rc.d/rc.modules files. If X doesn't start, > > > shoot us your errors from console and XFree86.0.log. hth, -s > > > > Hello: > > This is what is confusing me. I have done recommended install from > > the Mandrake DVD. This installed the NVIDIA drivers for 1.0-3123.1 > > mdk from the DVD. In my etc/modules it loads the NVdriver, in > > etc/X11/XF86Config-4 under module is Load > > "usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extension/libglx.so" in the Device section > > is Driver "nvidia". When I boot I see the NVIDIA start logo. just > > before getting to the KDE desktop. Yet when I install the latest > > NVIDIA rpms for 1.4191 for the Mandrake 9.0 it crashes with nvidia > > driver not found . > > > > What I do not understand is if etc/modules should say nvidia and > > not NVdriver > > with the .4191 version the /etc/modules.conf file should say: > alias /dev/nvidia* nvidia > > > and the XF86Config-4 Module should say Load "GLX" and > > it points to the libglx.so file why does it appear to work and yet > > not work when the new rpms are installed. > > umm, not real sure what you're saying, but yeah, I'd put Load "glx" in > the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file. Actually, this is what my section > looks like: > > Section "Module" > Load "dbe" # Double-Buffering Extension > Load "v4l" # Video for Linux > Load "extmod" > Load "type1" > Load "freetype" > Load "glx" # 3D layer > EndSection > > > Should I change the > > XF86CONFIG-4 Module section and the etc/module file to nvidia? > > yes. :) > > Section "Device" > Identifier "device1" > BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce4 (generic)" > Driver "nvidia" > Option "DPMS" > EndSection > > I mentioned putting /sbin/modprobe nvidia in your /etc/rc.d/rc.modules > file cause seems like /etc/modules.conf gets read too soon or too > late or something. Mine seems to not load the module. But you could > just put nvidia in your /etc/modules file instead of rc.modules... > either will work. As long as you get that module loaded before > trying to startx. I like to have all three elements present: > correct entries in XF86Config-4, device & modules in > /etc/modules.conf and some place that loads it (rc.modules. or > /etc/modules). > > > Confused. > > Well, I hope I haven't just confused you more. teehee Hello: Thanks for the help that got that working. But still confused as to what and why the initial install did what it did. - -- Yours, Ralph. It said Use Windows XP or better, so I installed Mandrake-Linux 9.0 Register Linux User 168814 ICQ #49993234 AIM ralphdewitt jabber.org ralphdewitt GPG Public Key available at http://www.keyserver.net Key Fingerprint = B290 C655 3CBF 3744 D896 C647 538B 4558 A3A9 65FF Kernel version 2.4.19-16mdk Current Linux uptime: 38 days 3 hours minutes. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9/XZwU4tFWKOpZf8RAmY/AJ0TvYBWh+S+faIji8Hp0GXDyGr1PgCffJ2S KO7Sg9HnJ+jtUQZtvz1hREo= =Nzux -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] CUPS permission denied.
Hi.
Does anybody know which file permissions i need to
change so CUPS let's me change my printer
settings? Currently i cannot do it ("permission denied"
even as root)
Thanks much.
Damian
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Re: [expert] Java
I'm not really sure I know what I'm talking about, but I once got confused with java installations because Mandrake 8.2 came with kaffe and at that point I didn't know there were Sun versions and other versions. Perhaps you have kaffe 1.1? Dave. On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 10:59:13AM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > Tibbetts, Ric wrote: > > > > From: Jack Coates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 05:00, Felix Miata wrote: > > > # rpm -qa | grep ava > > > # > > > > OK, what's the secret code to find out what java version is installed? > > > How about: > > > java -version > > Minor progress only, as the result is quite unexpected and incomplete. > Mozilla problems are causing people to recommend upgrading java from > v1.3 to v1.4. In 9.0, 'java -version' and 'java -fullversion' both > report version 1.1, just-in-time v3 version 1.0.7; and neither report > which rpm is responsible for its presence. > -- > "If you are wise, your wisdom will reward you. . . ." Proverbs 9:12 NIV > > Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 > > Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/ > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Dave Whiting Dar es Salaam, Tanzania Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] cannot locate block device '/dev/dvd' on Toshiba 2400
Hi, I'm migrating my Mandrake 8.2 system to a new laptop (Toshiba 2400). This machine has a DVD/CDROM drive, but when I boot I get the following message: Assigning raw devices: cannot locate block device '/dev/dvd' (No such file or directory) Once the machine has booted, the CD works fine, but not the DVD (no surprise). I also have a second floppy listed in fstab: /mnt/floppy2 /mnt/floppy2 supermount dev=/dev/fd1,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0 which reappears if I try to remove the entry (I think). Searching for this DVD error message I found one post (not Mandrake, SuSe perhaps?) that suggested appending nobiospnp to the command line. I have tried this but it did not help. Any ideas? Dave -- Dave Whiting Dar es Salaam, Tanzania Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL
On Sun, 2002-12-15 at 19:22, Damian Gatabria wrote: > El Dom 15 Dic 2002 21:25, James Sparenberg escribió: > > On the installs I've done. 7 boxes supermount works fine, on my > > laptop only am I having trouble. Seems that the supermount problems are > > related to hardware, not a generality (BTW the other boxes I've put > > it on don't have cdroms ) > > > > James > > > James, several people have already said supermount's problems > in 9.0 can be blamed on crappy hardware. > > I have seen this excuse several times already, but i just > can't buy it. Mandrake 9.0 includes a kernel whose Supermount > does not work in my box. This would be, according to the many > people that say so, my crappy hardware's fault. > > But why does it work OK with 8.2, then? > > I would be more inclined to say "Mandrake 9's stock > kernel has bugs that arise only on certain kinds of > hardware" more than "it's a hardware related problem", > as the latter gives the idea that the hardware is to blame, > which it is not. > > > Damian Interesting and accurate thought... But I still hold to hardware,as a possible source, only because the same box that has this problem had it with 8.2 and 8.1 also. (I didn't have it before that, it's a used laptop btw) The boxes that aren't having problems all have cdroms or cdwriters that are under 1 year old. I can on my personal desktop recreate the problem by putting in a 4 year old cdrom drive I own. Yet with the newer Asus CDwriter I've never had a lick of problems. If my thought is accurate it doesn't mean the hardware is bad per se but rather that the kernel builders aren't accurately supporting legacy hardware. Greatest problem is the fact that no author can ever test beyond the hardware he/she has in front of him. James > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MandrakeUpdate issues
On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 23:56, James Sparenberg wrote: > If your are using urpmi from the command line you can use the switch > --noclean and it won't erase the rpms. > > I haven't tried this, but you should also be able to go into menudrake and add the --noclean to the command for the Mandrake Update menu choice. Joeb > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL
On Sunday 15 December 2002 10:51 am, mycal62 wrote: > I must agree with this estimation. > > I have a perfect 8.0 install that has everything working PERFECTLY ! > > I now have a 9.0 install that seems to also work perfectly. ( seems to > so far that is ;-) ) > > But I couldn't get 8.2 to work on my "crappy hardware" ;-) ;-) ;-) > > It's not the hardware it's the OS. Obviously , not ALL Mandrake > versions work with all hardware configurations. > > though some may not like this opinion, it seems to be a fact of life. > > My 2 cents mycal62: I've run every distribution from 7.0 to 8.2. Most of them worked very well right out of the box. 7.2, however, would always trash itself after a couple of days. I made a couple of tries, but ended up back at 7.1. It's too soon to tell about 9.0, but we're not off to a real good start here. Your assessment that hardware variations have a lot to do with it is probably correct. (And probably the origin of YMMV.) -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL
I must agree with this estimation. I have a perfect 8.0 install that has everything working PERFECTLY ! I now have a 9.0 install that seems to also work perfectly. ( seems to so far that is ;-) ) But I couldn't get 8.2 to work on my "crappy hardware" ;-) ;-) ;-) It's not the hardware it's the OS. Obviously , not ALL Mandrake versions work with all hardware configurations. though some may not like this opinion, it seems to be a fact of life. My 2 cents -- ° Currently triple booting 98lite; MDK 8.0 kernel 2.4.3-20; MDK 9.0 kernel 2.4.19-16 Registered Linux User #248955 ° "If obstacles are what you see in your path... Then you have lost sight of your goal! " Damian Gatabria wrote: El Dom 15 Dic 2002 21:25, James Sparenberg escribió: On the installs I've done. 7 boxes supermount works fine, on my laptop only am I having trouble. Seems that the supermount problems are related to hardware, not a generality (BTW the other boxes I've put it on don't have cdroms ) James James, several people have already said supermount's problems in 9.0 can be blamed on crappy hardware. I have seen this excuse several times already, but i just can't buy it. Mandrake 9.0 includes a kernel whose Supermount does not work in my box. This would be, according to the many people that say so, my crappy hardware's fault. But why does it work OK with 8.2, then? I would be more inclined to say "Mandrake 9's stock kernel has bugs that arise only on certain kinds of hardware" more than "it's a hardware related problem", as the latter gives the idea that the hardware is to blame, which it is not. Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] maximum capacity
Perhaps a dumb question, but what is the maximum partition size you can make a linux ext2, or reisfer or any other linux partition? The reason I ask, is I just purchased a 180gb IDE drive and Reiser is choking. I've done a cursory search on the internet and not seeing anything. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL
El Dom 15 Dic 2002 21:25, James Sparenberg escribió: > On the installs I've done. 7 boxes supermount works fine, on my > laptop only am I having trouble. Seems that the supermount problems are > related to hardware, not a generality (BTW the other boxes I've put > it on don't have cdroms ) > > James James, several people have already said supermount's problems in 9.0 can be blamed on crappy hardware. I have seen this excuse several times already, but i just can't buy it. Mandrake 9.0 includes a kernel whose Supermount does not work in my box. This would be, according to the many people that say so, my crappy hardware's fault. But why does it work OK with 8.2, then? I would be more inclined to say "Mandrake 9's stock kernel has bugs that arise only on certain kinds of hardware" more than "it's a hardware related problem", as the latter gives the idea that the hardware is to blame, which it is not. Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Error building NVIDIA rpm
On Sun, 15 Dec 2002, Toshiro wrote: > I've downloaded the latest NVIDIA source rpms, I successfully built the GLX > rpm, but when I try to build the NVIDIA kernel rpm, I get an error (see the > full message below); it seems that is looking for some linux/autoconf.h that > it didn't find. Of course the file I downloaded is OK (same checksum as > advertised). > > Anybody got any idea? This can happen if you have kernel sources installed but you haven't run a 'make dep' inside of the source directory. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Error building NVIDIA rpm
Have you installed the kernel-source rpm appropriate to your kernel? -Jason On Sunday 15 December 2002 07:45 pm, Toshiro wrote: > I've downloaded the latest NVIDIA source rpms, I successfully built the GLX > rpm, but when I try to build the NVIDIA kernel rpm, I get an error (see the > full message below); it seems that is looking for some linux/autoconf.h > that it didn't find. Of course the file I downloaded is OK (same checksum > as advertised). > > Anybody got any idea? > > > + make nvidia.o > echo \#define NV_COMPILER \"`cc -v 2>&1 | tail -1`\" > nv_compiler.h > cc -c -Wall -Wimplicit -Wreturn-type -Wswitch -Wformat -Wchar-subscripts > -Wparentheses -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-qual -Wno-multichar -O -MD > -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES -DNTRM -D_GNU_SOURCE > -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE -DNV_MAJOR_VERSION=1 > -DNV_MINOR_VERSION=0 > -DNV_PATCHLEVEL=4191 -DNV_UNIX -DNV_LINUX -DNV_INT64_OK -DNVCPU_X86 > -I. -I/lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/build/include -Wno-cast-qual nv.c > In file included from nv-linux.h:17, > from nv.c:14: > /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/build/include/linux/config.h:4:28: > linux/autoconf.h: No such file or directory > In file included from > /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/build/include/linux/prefetch.h:13, > from > /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/build/include/linux/list.h:6, from > /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/build/include/linux/module.h:12, > from nv-linux.h:28, > from nv.c:14: > /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/build/include/asm/processor.h:56: > `CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT' undeclared here (not in a function) > /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/build/include/asm/processor.h:56: requested > alignment is not a constant > In file included from > /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/build/include/asm/hardirq.h:6, from > /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/build/include/linux/interrupt.h:45, > from nv-linux.h:71, > from nv.c:14: > /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/build/include/linux/irq.h:65: > `CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT' undeclared here (not in a function) > /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/build/include/linux/irq.h:65: requested alignment > is not a constant > In file included from > /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/build/include/linux/interrupt.h:45, > from nv-linux.h:71, > from nv.c:14: > /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/build/include/asm/hardirq.h:16: > `CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT' undeclared here (not in a function) > /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/build/include/asm/hardirq.h:16: requested > alignment is not a constant > In file included from nv-linux.h:71, > from nv.c:14: > /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/build/include/linux/interrupt.h:128: > `CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT' undeclared here (not in a function) > /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/build/include/linux/interrupt.h:128: requested > alignment is not a constant > make: *** [nv.o] Error 1 -- = Old Tom was the single cracked bronze bell in the University bell tower. The clapper dropped out shortly after it was cast, but the bell still tolled out some tremendously sonorous silences every hour. (Eric) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] NVIDIA Driver help needed Mandrake9 installation
On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 17:34:38 -0800, you wrote:
>What I do not understand is if etc/modules should say nvidia and not NVdriver
>and the XF86Config-4 Module should say Load "GLX" and it points to the
>libglx.so file why does it appear to work and yet not work when the new rpms
>are installed. Should I change the XF86CONFIG-4 Module section and the
>etc/module file to nvidia?
>
>Confused.
Re your last sentence, yes. Then do "modprobe nvidia".
I got it working from the following advice:
Load drivers
Vi edit the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file.
In the Module section,
Remark out Load "glx"
Instead, right under the line Load "dbe", add:
Load /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so
In the Driver section,
Replace driver "nv" (or "NVdriver") with "nvidia"
Save file
Run modprobe nvidia
If you are using an AGP card,
In the Screen section add this line:
Option "NvAgp" "1"
("0" will disable AGP)
Good luck,
Steve
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"Veritas odit moras"
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Re: [expert] NVIDIA Driver help needed Mandrake9 installation
On Sunday 15 December 2002 7:34 pm, you wrote: > On Sunday 15 December 2002 03:47 pm, s wrote: > > double check your Config-4 file that it has nvidia as the driver > > under device section and Load "GLX" under module section. Then: > > modprobe nvidia (the driver has changed from NVdriver to > > nvidia). And try to startx. If it works, put: /sbin/modprobe > > nvidia in your /etc/rc.d/rc.modules files. If X doesn't start, > > shoot us your errors from console and XFree86.0.log. hth, -s > > Hello: > This is what is confusing me. I have done recommended install from > the Mandrake DVD. This installed the NVIDIA drivers for 1.0-3123.1 > mdk from the DVD. In my etc/modules it loads the NVdriver, in > etc/X11/XF86Config-4 under module is Load > "usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extension/libglx.so" in the Device section > is Driver "nvidia". When I boot I see the NVIDIA start logo. just > before getting to the KDE desktop. Yet when I install the latest > NVIDIA rpms for 1.4191 for the Mandrake 9.0 it crashes with nvidia > driver not found . > > What I do not understand is if etc/modules should say nvidia and > not NVdriver with the .4191 version the /etc/modules.conf file should say: alias /dev/nvidia* nvidia > and the XF86Config-4 Module should say Load "GLX" and > it points to the libglx.so file why does it appear to work and yet > not work when the new rpms are installed. umm, not real sure what you're saying, but yeah, I'd put Load "glx" in the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file. Actually, this is what my section looks like: Section "Module" Load "dbe" # Double-Buffering Extension Load "v4l" # Video for Linux Load "extmod" Load "type1" Load "freetype" Load "glx" # 3D layer EndSection > Should I change the > XF86CONFIG-4 Module section and the etc/module file to nvidia? yes. :) Section "Device" Identifier "device1" BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce4 (generic)" Driver "nvidia" Option "DPMS" EndSection I mentioned putting /sbin/modprobe nvidia in your /etc/rc.d/rc.modules file cause seems like /etc/modules.conf gets read too soon or too late or something. Mine seems to not load the module. But you could just put nvidia in your /etc/modules file instead of rc.modules... either will work. As long as you get that module loaded before trying to startx. I like to have all three elements present: correct entries in XF86Config-4, device & modules in /etc/modules.conf and some place that loads it (rc.modules. or /etc/modules). > Confused. Well, I hope I haven't just confused you more. teehee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] NVIDIA Driver help needed Mandrake9 installation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 15 December 2002 03:47 pm, s wrote: > double check your Config-4 file that it has nvidia as the driver under > device section and Load "GLX" under module section. Then: modprobe > nvidia (the driver has changed from NVdriver to nvidia). And try to > startx. If it works, put: /sbin/modprobe nvidia in your > /etc/rc.d/rc.modules files. If X doesn't start, shoot us your errors > from console and XFree86.0.log. hth, -s Hello: This is what is confusing me. I have done recommended install from the Mandrake DVD. This installed the NVIDIA drivers for 1.0-3123.1 mdk from the DVD. In my etc/modules it loads the NVdriver, in etc/X11/XF86Config-4 under module is Load "usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extension/libglx.so" in the Device section is Driver "nvidia". When I boot I see the NVIDIA start logo. just before getting to the KDE desktop. Yet when I install the latest NVIDIA rpms for 1.4191 for the Mandrake 9.0 it crashes with nvidia driver not found . What I do not understand is if etc/modules should say nvidia and not NVdriver and the XF86Config-4 Module should say Load "GLX" and it points to the libglx.so file why does it appear to work and yet not work when the new rpms are installed. Should I change the XF86CONFIG-4 Module section and the etc/module file to nvidia? Confused. - -- Yours, Ralph. It said Use Windows XP or better, so I installed Mandrake-Linux 9.0 Register Linux User 168814 ICQ #49993234 AIM ralphdewitt jabber.org ralphdewitt GPG Public Key available at http://www.keyserver.net Key Fingerprint = B290 C655 3CBF 3744 D896 C647 538B 4558 A3A9 65FF Kernel version 2.4.19-16mdk Current Linux uptime: 2 days 1 hours 41 minutes. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9/S22U4tFWKOpZf8RAuteAKCJnqB+2cNMdpbfALrcDHijsqS2fACfX8qL ebSXdRhM5e0sVSnm8SlMsm4= =Nn6J -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Error building NVIDIA rpm
I've downloaded the latest NVIDIA source rpms, I successfully built the GLX rpm, but when I try to build the NVIDIA kernel rpm, I get an error (see the full message below); it seems that is looking for some linux/autoconf.h that it didn't find. Of course the file I downloaded is OK (same checksum as advertised). Anybody got any idea? + make nvidia.o echo \#define NV_COMPILER \"`cc -v 2>&1 | tail -1`\" > nv_compiler.h cc -c -Wall -Wimplicit -Wreturn-type -Wswitch -Wformat -Wchar-subscripts -Wparentheses -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-qual -Wno-multichar -O -MD -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES -DNTRM -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE -DNV_MAJOR_VERSION=1 -DNV_MINOR_VERSION=0 -DNV_PATCHLEVEL=4191 -DNV_UNIX -DNV_LINUX -DNV_INT64_OK -DNVCPU_X86 -I. -I/lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/build/include -Wno-cast-qual nv.c In file included from nv-linux.h:17, from nv.c:14: /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/build/include/linux/config.h:4:28: linux/autoconf.h: No such file or directory In file included from /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/build/include/linux/prefetch.h:13, from /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/build/include/linux/list.h:6, from /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/build/include/linux/module.h:12, from nv-linux.h:28, from nv.c:14: /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/build/include/asm/processor.h:56: `CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT' undeclared here (not in a function) /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/build/include/asm/processor.h:56: requested alignment is not a constant In file included from /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/build/include/asm/hardirq.h:6, from /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/build/include/linux/interrupt.h:45, from nv-linux.h:71, from nv.c:14: /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/build/include/linux/irq.h:65: `CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT' undeclared here (not in a function) /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/build/include/linux/irq.h:65: requested alignment is not a constant In file included from /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/build/include/linux/interrupt.h:45, from nv-linux.h:71, from nv.c:14: /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/build/include/asm/hardirq.h:16: `CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT' undeclared here (not in a function) /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/build/include/asm/hardirq.h:16: requested alignment is not a constant In file included from nv-linux.h:71, from nv.c:14: /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/build/include/linux/interrupt.h:128: `CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT' undeclared here (not in a function) /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/build/include/linux/interrupt.h:128: requested alignment is not a constant make: *** [nv.o] Error 1 -- Toshiro Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL
On the installs I've done. 7 boxes supermount works fine, on my laptop only am I having trouble. Seems that the supermount problems are related to hardware, not a generality (BTW the other boxes I've put it on don't have cdroms ) James On Sun, 2002-12-15 at 14:27, Praedor Atrebates wrote: > On Sunday 15 December 2002 05:15 pm, Jason Greenwood wrote: > > Ok, I'm with you now. I know plenty of people who have 9.0 and would > > burn it for you for free (if you replaced the CD's for them). I am sure > > you do as well. If not, I suggest giving your location (roughly) to the > > list to see if there is someone near you who is willing to burn you a > > copy of 9.0. From there, simply upgrade the kernel to the cooker one (it > > works, I know, I run Cooker at home) and you're all set. I see what you > > As I understood it (and experienced it) some people were having no problems > with the 9.0 kernel but there were a large number who found supermount > partially or totally borked and had to disable it. Were you among this > contingent? If so, are you saying the Cooker kernel fixes the supermount > problem? I also have a usb wireless device. Under the 9.0 kernel, it was > unreliable and prone to lockups (the device, not the system). If I can be > reasonably assured that 1) supermount is now fixed in the Cooker kernel and > 2) usb is updated, then I would consider going with a full 9.0 and > immediately update to the Cooker kernel. > > praedor > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] what permissions should be assigned to /dev/dsp?
On this box /dev/dsp is a link to /dev/sound/dsp /dev/sound/dsp is crw---1 jamesaudio 14, 3 Dec 31 1969 dsp /dev/dsp is lr-xr-xr-x1 root root9 Dec 14 21:26 /dev/dsp -> sound/dsp James On Sun, 2002-12-15 at 13:51, Praedor Atrebates wrote: > I have built and installed the alsa drivers (and libs) for alsa 0.9.0. Upon > starting my newly rebuilt kde 3.0.3 for the first time, I get an arts error > message about an inability to open /dev/dsp (permission denied). What > permission is supposed to be assigned to /dev/dsp to make it usable by any > and all? It is presenty root.root. Should it be root.audio? Or do I just > need to change the permissions on it to...rw for everyone? > > praedor > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL
Praedor Atrebates wrote: I cannot do the iso download because I am stuck with a 56k dialup with a time limit per call (university rules). There is NO proper option for broadband that would make downloading ISOs and whatnot doable. Many downloaders have a resume option which lets you continue downloadong where you left off at the end of the last session. Use rsync to download over your 56KB link, but make sure the --partial option is set. You have been around here long enough to be aware of our troels.rsync8.3.pl from my web site. Use it (--partial is always set). The web site also contains an example of using cron to automatically redial after a server timeout disconnect to enable a fully hands-off automated troels download under time-limited session conditions. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use ftp.sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] NVIDIA Driver help needed Mandrake9 installation
On Saturday 14 December 2002 8:46 pm, Ralph De Witt wrote: > I snagged the latest NVIDIA drivers in rpm format and tryed to > install following the directions. From level 3 I installed the up > kernel rpm doing a rpm -Uvh, I then did a rpm -e to remove the old > GLX file and then did a rpm - -Uvh to install it. rpm informed me > that it had to remove three files libgl or libglx then it did the > install. I did not edit the config file because my install of MDK 9 > had installed the NVIDIA drivers from the DVD. I then rebooted and > X crashed and I went to level 3, when I looked in the config file I > found the nvidia module was specified but glx was not specified but > there was a link to some lib file. When X crashed it stated that > the kernel modual was not located or installed. double check your Config-4 file that it has nvidia as the driver under device section and Load "GLX" under module section. Then: modprobe nvidia (the driver has changed from NVdriver to nvidia). And try to startx. If it works, put: /sbin/modprobe nvidia in your /etc/rc.d/rc.modules files. If X doesn't start, shoot us your errors from console and XFree86.0.log. hth, -s Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Toshiba Satellite 5105 & NVIDIA Driver Problems......
Lorne wrote: Can you adjust it with the monitor? Try vidtune. I'm not sure if that still works with the new software or not. BTW, it is now xvidtune, not vidtune. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] troels... now updated to use ftp.sunet.se server. See: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL
Yes, you are right, 9.0 totally F***ed up Supermount, even for me (I disable it on all vanilla 9.0 installs). It was broken on every install I tried (probably 5 or so, including and especially laptops). In the current cooker kernel, Supermount seems to work flawlessly for me on my home box. It also works on my fathers box and he's running the latest cooker too. I can't vouch for it across the board but it seems to have been addressed by now and I haven't heard much about it on the Cooker List (in itself a good sign). As for USB support, I can't comment, perhaps the list can give more insight here... All the best J Praedor Atrebates wrote: On Sunday 15 December 2002 05:15 pm, Jason Greenwood wrote: Ok, I'm with you now. I know plenty of people who have 9.0 and would burn it for you for free (if you replaced the CD's for them). I am sure you do as well. If not, I suggest giving your location (roughly) to the list to see if there is someone near you who is willing to burn you a copy of 9.0. From there, simply upgrade the kernel to the cooker one (it works, I know, I run Cooker at home) and you're all set. I see what you As I understood it (and experienced it) some people were having no problems with the 9.0 kernel but there were a large number who found supermount partially or totally borked and had to disable it. Were you among this contingent? If so, are you saying the Cooker kernel fixes the supermount problem? I also have a usb wireless device. Under the 9.0 kernel, it was unreliable and prone to lockups (the device, not the system). If I can be reasonably assured that 1) supermount is now fixed in the Cooker kernel and 2) usb is updated, then I would consider going with a full 9.0 and immediately update to the Cooker kernel. praedor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] mplayer and software manager
On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 14:56:03 -0800 Todd Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Willing to bet that you did the update process during the install, but > it didn't succeed all the way. > > 1) Look in /etc/urpmi/urpmi.conf. Is there a defined source for "Update > for Mandrake Linux 9.0 (ftp1u)"? > 2) If yes, urpmi.update -a should have fixed it. > 3) Since you said it didn't, most likely that source is not defined in > /etc/urpmi/urpmi.conf, so just delete the file that it's complaining > about. > Blue skies... Todd You're right about updating during the installation. I've deleted the offending entry in /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg which seems to have solved that problem. Thanks David -- "The only reason some people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory." (Paul Fix) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] RE: /etc/alternatives listing... can someone supply the targets to the following links??
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Franki wrote on Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 03:02:48AM +0800 : > > Can someone tell me where the following symlinks should be pointing??? > /usr/share/man/man1/cancel.1.bz2 > /usr/share/man/man1/newaliases.1.bz2 > /usr/share/man/man1/mailq.1.bz2 > /usr/share/man/man1/lpr.1.bz2 > /usr/share/man/man1/lpq.1.bz2 > /usr/share/man/man1/lprm.1.bz2 > /usr/share/man/man1/lp.1.bz2 > /usr/share/man/man1/lpstat.1.bz2 > /usr/share/man/man5/aliases.5.bz2 > /usr/share/man/man8/lpc.8.bz2 > Mine are all screwed up.. (I think its my fault, I tried to manually fix the > broken symlinks... As root: update-alternatives --auto mta It should fix all of them. Blue skies... Todd - -- Never take no as an answer from someone who's not authorized to say yes. --Ben Reser on Cooker ML Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.1-0.1mdk Kernel 2.4.20-2mdk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9/QlNlp7v05cW2woRAgLSAJ9IisoIvu+ZyrWIr6pw6KBz+qtO/gCfQF1n Rr2ZuayuJGee13dgW0vZvZU= =Da6x -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] mplayer and software manager
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Robertson wrote on Sat, Dec 14, 2002 at 09:00:54AM + : > > files to be installed, is that OK? I hit "Y" and the installation > aborts, saying that a number of files aren't found. I'm also getting an > error saying "unable to take medium 'Update for Mandrake Linux 9.0 > (ftpiu)' into account as no list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.Updates for > Mandrake Linux 9.0 (ftpiu)]exists." When a source is properly configured, there are three files per source. If the souce is called "Main", then there will be: hdlist.Main.cz list.Main synthesis.hdlist.Main.cz > This is a reinstall of LM 9.0 and I didn't have these problems before - > I can't think that I've done anything different, so any suggestions > would be gratefully received! Willing to bet that you did the update process during the install, but it didn't succeed all the way. 1) Look in /etc/urpmi/urpmi.conf. Is there a defined source for "Update for Mandrake Linux 9.0 (ftp1u)"? 2) If yes, urpmi.update -a should have fixed it. 3) Since you said it didn't, most likely that source is not defined in /etc/urpmi/urpmi.conf, so just delete the file that it's complaining about. Blue skies... Todd - -- | MandrakeSoft USA | Security is like an onion. It's made | | http://www.mandrakesoft.com | made up of several layers and makes | | http://www.mandrakelinux.com | you cry. --Howard Chu| Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.1-0.1mdk Kernel 2.4.20-2mdk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9/QiDlp7v05cW2woRAqgfAJ9TRV/9WKaPdObfl6wRRCvMBdQi5ACfXnU4 7DD2hh/9xn1xfpD73B0IcEc= =ECpS -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Mailing list Identification (was Re: [expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tommy Wareing wrote on Sat, Dec 14, 2002 at 01:46:06AM + : > > mailbox. (And therefore, if I'm cc'd as well, I'll get one copy in > each of two boxes). > The two most recent message without the X-Loop header were: > > From: Sylvestre Taburet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [expert] Cups/Samba pdf generator. > > Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 17:37:45 +0100 > > Message-Id: > > Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > X-Loop: expert@ > which can't be filtered on the Sender: field. I'd guess X-Loop: got > truncated due to originating within Mandrake. Don't use Sender: :) Mandrake has an internal news-server which the lists are gateway'd to and from. If it is posted to the news-server, the Sender will be set to [EMAIL PROTECTED] by the gateway program and Sympa (apparently) doesn't rewrite it. Filter on "X-Loop:.expert@" > > Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > which has been clipped for some reason I'm not going to guess at. > Looks like I'd better remove linux-mandrake.com from my filter. Again, don't filter on Sender. Filter on X-Loop or X-BeenThere. Those are the only two that are reliable. Blue skies... Todd - -- ...and I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger, those who attempt to poison and destroy my binaries, and you will know my name is root, when I lay my vengeance upon thee. Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.1-0.1mdk Kernel 2.4.20-2mdk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9/Qdelp7v05cW2woRAj6RAKCAhofnWkQ6aDM4zde54uVW1of7fwCgsK/V e98mOVewweO6qLBHgwYMGEU= =iMmT -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL
On Sunday 15 December 2002 05:15 pm, Jason Greenwood wrote: > Ok, I'm with you now. I know plenty of people who have 9.0 and would > burn it for you for free (if you replaced the CD's for them). I am sure > you do as well. If not, I suggest giving your location (roughly) to the > list to see if there is someone near you who is willing to burn you a > copy of 9.0. From there, simply upgrade the kernel to the cooker one (it > works, I know, I run Cooker at home) and you're all set. I see what you As I understood it (and experienced it) some people were having no problems with the 9.0 kernel but there were a large number who found supermount partially or totally borked and had to disable it. Were you among this contingent? If so, are you saying the Cooker kernel fixes the supermount problem? I also have a usb wireless device. Under the 9.0 kernel, it was unreliable and prone to lockups (the device, not the system). If I can be reasonably assured that 1) supermount is now fixed in the Cooker kernel and 2) usb is updated, then I would consider going with a full 9.0 and immediately update to the Cooker kernel. praedor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL
Ok, I'm with you now. I know plenty of people who have 9.0 and would burn it for you for free (if you replaced the CD's for them). I am sure you do as well. If not, I suggest giving your location (roughly) to the list to see if there is someone near you who is willing to burn you a copy of 9.0. >From there, simply upgrade the kernel to the cooker one (it works, I know, I run Cooker at home) and you're all set. I see what you are trying to accomplish it is just that in my experience, trying to update *components* of a system, especially with such a big jump in Libs, GCC etc. is difficult and fails miserably. Wish you all the best anyway. Regards J Praedor Atrebates wrote: On Sunday 15 December 2002 16:13, Jason Greenwood wrote: Ok, I offer 2 possible solutions for you then. Download the 9.0 ISO's for free (or have them burned to CD by someone you know who already has them) and upgrade the lot (or just upgrade KDE by adding the 3 9.0 CD's as sources in URPMI). Download the (Cooker) KDE RPM's via RPMdrake, and then satisfy the dependencies the same way. I just don't understand why you can't do the downloads (for free) that you need instead of going through the hassle of compiling something that requires vastly different libs etc. than the system you are currently running. Just my .0002c worth. This all started when I noticed that kde 3.0.3 wasn't working properly on my desktop (the problems with konqueror and javascript and any and all netscape plugins). On my laptop kde 3.0.3 works perfectly fine. Both systems are running 8.2. I cannot do the iso download because I am stuck with a 56k dialup with a time limit per call (university rules). There is NO proper option for broadband that would make downloading ISOs and whatnot doable. If not for the kernel problems with 9.0 I would be quite happy buying the boxed set to make it easy but the kernel IS defective vs 8.2 (supermount is important and I had nothing but problems with usb devices with it as well when I tried the 2.4.19 kernel). While writing this, my latest attempt at kdemultimedia succeeded...but not the rpm. I installed the src rpm and tried several times to build the rpm. Nope. I then did my last option in such cases and went right to the /usr/src/RPM/BUILD directory and did an old-fashioned ./configure && make && make install in the kdemultimedia directory. More often than not, if an rpm fails to build due to some (usually) bogus error, building the source directly works. This would appear to indicate a defect in the spec (or other?) rpm-specific config. praedor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] what permissions should be assigned to /dev/dsp?
I have built and installed the alsa drivers (and libs) for alsa 0.9.0. Upon starting my newly rebuilt kde 3.0.3 for the first time, I get an arts error message about an inability to open /dev/dsp (permission denied). What permission is supposed to be assigned to /dev/dsp to make it usable by any and all? It is presenty root.root. Should it be root.audio? Or do I just need to change the permissions on it to...rw for everyone? praedor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL
On Sunday 15 December 2002 16:13, Jason Greenwood wrote: > Ok, I offer 2 possible solutions for you then. Download the 9.0 ISO's > for free (or have them burned to CD by someone you know who already has > them) and upgrade the lot (or just upgrade KDE by adding the 3 9.0 CD's > as sources in URPMI). Download the (Cooker) KDE RPM's via RPMdrake, and > then satisfy the dependencies the same way. I just don't understand why > you can't do the downloads (for free) that you need instead of going > through the hassle of compiling something that requires vastly different > libs etc. than the system you are currently running. Just my .0002c worth. This all started when I noticed that kde 3.0.3 wasn't working properly on my desktop (the problems with konqueror and javascript and any and all netscape plugins). On my laptop kde 3.0.3 works perfectly fine. Both systems are running 8.2. I cannot do the iso download because I am stuck with a 56k dialup with a time limit per call (university rules). There is NO proper option for broadband that would make downloading ISOs and whatnot doable. If not for the kernel problems with 9.0 I would be quite happy buying the boxed set to make it easy but the kernel IS defective vs 8.2 (supermount is important and I had nothing but problems with usb devices with it as well when I tried the 2.4.19 kernel). While writing this, my latest attempt at kdemultimedia succeeded...but not the rpm. I installed the src rpm and tried several times to build the rpm. Nope. I then did my last option in such cases and went right to the /usr/src/RPM/BUILD directory and did an old-fashioned ./configure && make && make install in the kdemultimedia directory. More often than not, if an rpm fails to build due to some (usually) bogus error, building the source directly works. This would appear to indicate a defect in the spec (or other?) rpm-specific config. praedor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Re: Visor - USB - Synchronization - Evolution 1.2.1 -- WORKS!
On Mon, 2002-11-18 at 12:28, Walt Pennington wrote: > http://www.mandrake.com/en/archives/expert/2002-09/msg01743.php > > Hi Robert, > > I saw your post above, and I am having a similar problem. The > > When running gpilotd in a terminal, I receive a message "segmentation > fault" > > > $ gpilotd > > gpilotd-Message: gnome-pilot 0.1.69 starting... > > gpilotd-Message: compiled for pilot-link version 0.11.5 > > gpilotd-Message: compiled with [VFS] [GOAD] [USB] [IrDA] [Network] > > gpilotd-Message: Activating CORBA server > > gpilotd-Message: Watching Cradle (/dev/usb/tts/1) > > gpilotd-Message: setting PILOTRATE=115200 > > Segmentation fault > > > I tried the same command at a lower PILOTRATE - 57600 and 9600, and > receive the same result. > > Were you able to get your Visor to work with gpilotd or with Evolution? > > Mandrake 9.0 > Dell Latitude C600 Laptop > Handspring Visor Pro > USB connection Walt, I just upgraded to Evolution 1.2.1, and syncing is working again and my Mandrake box! -- ...Rob -- "They that can give up liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin, 1706-1790 = Robert Goshko Axis Computer Consulting Services, Inc President Sherwood Park, Alberta, Canada http://www.axis-dev.ca/ Supporting the Revolution In Your World = Registered Linux User #260513 GNU/Linux i686 2.4.19-16mdk 2:22pm up 1 day, 20:06, 5 users, load average: 1.05, 1.08, 1.08 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL
Ok, I offer 2 possible solutions for you then. Download the 9.0 ISO's for free (or have them burned to CD by someone you know who already has them) and upgrade the lot (or just upgrade KDE by adding the 3 9.0 CD's as sources in URPMI). Download the (Cooker) KDE RPM's via RPMdrake, and then satisfy the dependencies the same way. I just don't understand why you can't do the downloads (for free) that you need instead of going through the hassle of compiling something that requires vastly different libs etc. than the system you are currently running. Just my .0002c worth. Regards J Praedor Atrebates wrote: On Sunday 15 December 2002 15:37, Jason Greenwood wrote: Just wondering why you don't use the pre-built mdk RPM?? Wouldn't it be easier?? Cheers Hello, I cannot use the prebuilts because I am not running MDK 9.0. I am still using 8.2 so I must rebuild for my system. It seems rather ridiculous for me to shell out for 9.0 just so I can have a working KDE 3 but have to go back to the 8.2 kernel in order to retain functionality (usb, supermount). I tried the 9.0 kernel for a while (built like all my kernels for years) and it was too borked for me to tolerate it so I went back to the 2.4.18 kernel. It seems more reasonable to stick with 8.2 until 9.1 comes out with a, presumably, bug-fixed kernel. Thus, I must build kde 3 myself as the prebuilts are based on the wrong glibc. praedor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] CDROM - How to activate automatic mount
I have this 2 lines in my fstab but cdroms does not mount automatically when I access it at /mnt/cd* /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 /dev/scd1 /mnt/cdrom1 auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 Please, Does any body may tell me what is missing or wrong Thanks, MS -- Manuel Soto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL
On Sunday 15 December 2002 15:37, Jason Greenwood wrote: > Just wondering why you don't use the pre-built mdk RPM?? Wouldn't it be > easier?? > > Cheers Hello, I cannot use the prebuilts because I am not running MDK 9.0. I am still using 8.2 so I must rebuild for my system. It seems rather ridiculous for me to shell out for 9.0 just so I can have a working KDE 3 but have to go back to the 8.2 kernel in order to retain functionality (usb, supermount). I tried the 9.0 kernel for a while (built like all my kernels for years) and it was too borked for me to tolerate it so I went back to the 2.4.18 kernel. It seems more reasonable to stick with 8.2 until 9.1 comes out with a, presumably, bug-fixed kernel. Thus, I must build kde 3 myself as the prebuilts are based on the wrong glibc. praedor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I am in KDE HELL
Just wondering why you don't use the pre-built mdk RPM?? Wouldn't it be easier?? Cheers J Praedor Atrebates wrote: I have been trying and trying and trying to build a functional KDE 3 system for days now. I have tried with mandrake 3.0.3, 3.0.4, and 3.0.5 src rpms and have managed with varying success to get most of kde built. The latest problem is that though I have gotten ALL src rpms built except kdemultimedia, it is this last one that adamantly refuses to build. I have met ALL dependencies for it yet with 3.0.3-7mdk., 3.0.4-1mdk, and 3.0.5-1mdk it fails with the same messages: mixer_alsa.cpp:108: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:109: parse error before `<' mixer_alsa.cpp:110: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no type mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:110: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()' mixer_alsa.cpp:109: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:110: parse error before `<' mixer_alsa.cpp:111: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no type mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:111: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()' mixer_alsa.cpp:110: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:111: parse error before `<' mixer_alsa.cpp:112: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no type mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:112: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()' mixer_alsa.cpp:111: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:112: parse error before `<' mixer_alsa.cpp:113: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no type mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:113: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()' mixer_alsa.cpp:112: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:113: parse error before `<' mixer_alsa.cpp:114: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no type mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:114: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()' mixer_alsa.cpp:113: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:114: parse error before `<' mixer_alsa.cpp:115: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no type mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:115: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()' mixer_alsa.cpp:114: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:115: parse error before `<' mixer_alsa.cpp:116: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no type mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:116: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()' mixer_alsa.cpp:115: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:116: parse error before `<' mixer_alsa.cpp:117: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no type mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:117: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()' mixer_alsa.cpp:116: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:117: parse error before `<' mixer_alsa.cpp: In method `int Mixer_ALSA::openMixer ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:132: `snd_defaults_mixer_card' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:133: `snd_defaults_mixer_device' undeclared (first use this function) /usr/include/alsa/mixer.h:84: too many arguments to function `int snd_mixer_open (snd_mixer_t **, int)' mixer_alsa.cpp:136: at this point in file mixer_alsa.cpp:141: `snd_mixer_groups' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:145: `snd_mixer_gid_t' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:145: parse error before `)' mixer_alsa.cpp:154: `gid' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:157: `snd_mixer_group_t' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:157: parse error before `;' mixer_alsa.cpp:158: `group' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:160: `snd_mixer_group_read' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:169: `SND_MIXER_GRPCAP_VOLUME' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:173: `SND_MIXER_GRPCAP_CAPTURE' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:198: `snd_mixer_info_t' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:198: parse error before `;' mixer_alsa.cpp:199: `info' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:199: `snd_mixer_info' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:205: confused by earlier errors, bailing out make[3]: *** [kmix_panelapplet_la.all_cpp.lo] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/RPM/BUILD/kdemultimedia-3.0.5/kmix' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/RPM/BUILD/kdemult
[expert] I am in KDE HELL
I have been trying and trying and trying to build a functional KDE 3 system for days now. I have tried with mandrake 3.0.3, 3.0.4, and 3.0.5 src rpms and have managed with varying success to get most of kde built. The latest problem is that though I have gotten ALL src rpms built except kdemultimedia, it is this last one that adamantly refuses to build. I have met ALL dependencies for it yet with 3.0.3-7mdk., 3.0.4-1mdk, and 3.0.5-1mdk it fails with the same messages: mixer_alsa.cpp:108: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:109: parse error before `<' mixer_alsa.cpp:110: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no type mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:110: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()' mixer_alsa.cpp:109: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:110: parse error before `<' mixer_alsa.cpp:111: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no type mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:111: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()' mixer_alsa.cpp:110: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:111: parse error before `<' mixer_alsa.cpp:112: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no type mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:112: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()' mixer_alsa.cpp:111: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:112: parse error before `<' mixer_alsa.cpp:113: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no type mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:113: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()' mixer_alsa.cpp:112: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:113: parse error before `<' mixer_alsa.cpp:114: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no type mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:114: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()' mixer_alsa.cpp:113: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:114: parse error before `<' mixer_alsa.cpp:115: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no type mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:115: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()' mixer_alsa.cpp:114: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:115: parse error before `<' mixer_alsa.cpp:116: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no type mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:116: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()' mixer_alsa.cpp:115: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:116: parse error before `<' mixer_alsa.cpp:117: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `kndDebug' with no type mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:117: redefinition of `int kndDebug ()' mixer_alsa.cpp:116: `int kndDebug ()' previously defined here mixer_alsa.cpp: In function `int kndDebug ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:117: parse error before `<' mixer_alsa.cpp: In method `int Mixer_ALSA::openMixer ()': mixer_alsa.cpp:132: `snd_defaults_mixer_card' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:133: `snd_defaults_mixer_device' undeclared (first use this function) /usr/include/alsa/mixer.h:84: too many arguments to function `int snd_mixer_open (snd_mixer_t **, int)' mixer_alsa.cpp:136: at this point in file mixer_alsa.cpp:141: `snd_mixer_groups' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:145: `snd_mixer_gid_t' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:145: parse error before `)' mixer_alsa.cpp:154: `gid' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:157: `snd_mixer_group_t' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:157: parse error before `;' mixer_alsa.cpp:158: `group' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:160: `snd_mixer_group_read' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:169: `SND_MIXER_GRPCAP_VOLUME' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:173: `SND_MIXER_GRPCAP_CAPTURE' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:198: `snd_mixer_info_t' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:198: parse error before `;' mixer_alsa.cpp:199: `info' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:199: `snd_mixer_info' undeclared (first use this function) mixer_alsa.cpp:205: confused by earlier errors, bailing out make[3]: *** [kmix_panelapplet_la.all_cpp.lo] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/RPM/BUILD/kdemultimedia-3.0.5/kmix' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/RPM/BUILD/kdemultimedia-3.0.5/kmix' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/RPM/BUILD/kdemultimedia-3.0.5' m
Re: [expert] hdc lost interrupt
On Sunday 15 December 2002 04:38 am, Olaf Marzocchi wrote: > At 06.48 15/12/2002, you wrote: > >Hey guys, I'm having a strange problem I'm hoping someone else has run > > into. > > > >I'm trying to install MNF onto an AMD 350 system. One HD on the primary > >channel and one CDROM on the secondary. I've also tried it with the HD and > >CDROM both on the primary and the secondary disabled. The first way, it > > gets to the thank you screen (starting to install). In TTY4 I see that > > HDC lost interrupt over and over. When both are on the same primary > > channel I get HDA interrupt lost. That is it. I can't get past this. > > > >It sure seems hardware, since I was unable to install openbsd. I can't > > figure out what is wrong here. Help! > > I have the same problem with an old 486. > It sure is frustrating! It would be a perfect firewall box. 390+mb ram, 350mhz amd processor. LOTS Of horsepower, but danged if I can install. > Olaf > > > for every kind of mail, except spam! :-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Wierd unmount only permitted as root
On Sun, 2002-12-15 at 12:07, J. Grant wrote: > Hi, > > I'm seeing some strange effects, this has been going on for a while, but > i've not got around to asking if there is a solution, basically, even > though I have "user" in my fstab I can only unmount my cdrom as root. > > Any ideas or solutions? I ran into a similar problem with RedHat 8.0 and Samba (couldn't unmount a share as a user, even though I had mounted the share as the same user), my solution was to (as root): # chmod +s /usr/bin/smbumount I would think your solution would be to check /bin/mount and /bin/umount, and try the same thing on umount. This is not a secure solution, but it works on my (single-user) laptop. -- Dave Sherman MCSE, MCSA, CCNA "If we wanted you to understand it, we wouldn't call it code." signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[expert] Wierd unmount only permitted as root
Hi, I'm seeing some strange effects, this has been going on for a while, but i've not got around to asking if there is a solution, basically, even though I have "user" in my fstab I can only unmount my cdrom as root. Any ideas or solutions? Regards JG $ umount /mnt/cdrom umount: only root can unmount /dev/scd0 from /mnt/cdrom $ cat /etc/fstab /dev/hde2 / ext3 defaults 1 1 /dev/hde1 /boot ext3 defaults 1 2 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 #/dev/hdh1 /mnt/backup ext3 defaults,user,auto 1 2 /dev/hdg1 /mnt/backup2 ext3 defaults,user,auto 1 2 /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom iso9660 user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,noauto,umask=0 0 0 /dev/hda /mnt/cdrom2 iso9660 user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,noauto,umask=0 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto user,iocharset=iso8859-15,sync,codepage=850,umask=0,noauto 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 none /tmp tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hde3 swap swap defaults 0 0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] mldonkey: shorewall and port: SOLVED
I have found in a mldonkey page how to do that :-) Just in the shorewall enable the ports 4660-4666/tcp, now I have the firewall runing and mldonkey also ^_^ El Dom 15 Dic 2002 13:18, Francisco Alcaraz Ariza escribió: > Dear friends, > > I am using mldonkey to download some files, but if I have the firewall > activated (allowed ssh and ftp) I can't download anything. Without firewall > it is possible download, but I would like have the firewall activated and > opened the ports for ssh (22), ftp (21) and for mldonkey (???). > > Does anyone know which port uses mldonkey? how can I configure the > shorewall to allow mldonkey run without disable the firewall? > > Thanks so much in advance -- Francisco Alcaraz Ariza Departamento de Biología Vegetal Universidad de Murcia E-30100 Murcia España (Spain) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] RE: /etc/alternatives listing [was too long]
yeah, I guess I could try that.. might be easier to just reinstall cups and postfix.. my main reason is I want it to fix the /etc/alternative links.. They are all now pointing where they should be thanks to everyones help,, but the eventual targets are missing.. since they all seem to relate to cups and postfix.. maybe just reinstalling them would fix things.. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Philip Webb Sent: Sunday, 15 December 2002 7:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] RE: /etc/alternatives listing [was too long] 021215 Franki wrote: > I made the mistake on this box not selecting "documentation" > when I installed the system. > I installed man manually later, but I rather suspect that all the packages > that were installed before I had man onboard didn't install the man stuff. > Is there any way to put all the man stuff back in > without reinstalling all the cups and postfix stuff? FWIW i've had problems with earlier Mdks when i didn't install all the dox at the start. try doing an "update" partial installation, simply selecting "documentation". otherwise, you'll probably have to re-install, but more carefully. generally, Mandrake staff seem to test the full basic installation thoro'ly, but cannot as humans be expected to check every permutation of part-installs. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban & Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Nvidia driver chaos! HEAVENS!!!
With glxgears minimezed it's going up to 7500-7000 fps with my Geforce 4 Ti 4200. El Dom 15 Dic 2002 12:53, SainTiss escribió: > Hmm, I know it sounds odd, but when I minimize the glxgears window, I > get around 4500fps, and if I don't minimize it, I only get 650fps! > > How is this possible? > > Thanks > > Hans > > On Sun, 2002-12-15 at 06:26, Ricardo Castanho de Oliveira Freitas wrote: > > On Qua 11 Dez 2002 07:17, Simon Naish wrote: > > > > Is that to taken seriously? > > > > I got 715.600fps on my gf2 with nvidia drivers! > > > > Just to be sure. that's 3758 frames in 5 seconds! > > > > Ricardo > > > > > Just my 2 cents worth but as far as I can tell there is no hardware > > > acceleration available from the nv driver. 340 fps is seriously poor > > > for the small window of gears, and bout right for no hardware > > > accelertion, try 6000 (yup 6000) fps with hardware acceleration and a > > > reasonable to good modern graphics card. I cant see the open source > > > drivers getting close :o( for a very very very long time. > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Ronald J. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 15:14:41 -0500 > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: [expert] Nvidia driver chaos! > > > > > > > On Tuesday 10 December 2002 11:06 am, you wrote: > > > > > XFree's nv driver does have 3d/accel, XFree86-4.2.1. > > > > > My GeF2 gets 35 fps with glxgears in fullscreen, 1024x768x16. 340 > > > > > fps in the smaller default window using the nv driver. Either try > > > > > the older 2960 nvidia src.rpms, or if limited 3d/accel is all you > > > > > need, avoid the nvidia binary crap altogether. > > > > > > > > Tom, does this mean that sometime (with ongoing development?) in the > > > > future we might actually see the fully open sourced drivers being > > > > comparable to performance to the closed ones? It would be nice to be > > > > able to drop the proprietary drivers... > > > > > > > > Got my fingers crossed! :-) > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > /\ Dark< >Lord \/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > > -- > > > > == > > Linux user # 102240 => Machine # 96125 => Seti@home user > > == > > http://counter.li.org/ & Get Counted! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Francisco Alcaraz Ariza Departamento de Biología Vegetal Universidad de Murcia E-30100 Murcia España (Spain) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] mldonkey: shorewall and port
Dear friends, I am using mldonkey to download some files, but if I have the firewall activated (allowed ssh and ftp) I can't download anything. Without firewall it is possible download, but I would like have the firewall activated and opened the ports for ssh (22), ftp (21) and for mldonkey (???). Does anyone know which port uses mldonkey? how can I configure the shorewall to allow mldonkey run without disable the firewall? Thanks so much in advance -- Francisco Alcaraz Ariza Departamento de Biología Vegetal Universidad de Murcia E-30100 Murcia España (Spain) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Nvidia driver chaos! HEAVENS!!!
Hmm, I know it sounds odd, but when I minimize the glxgears window, I get around 4500fps, and if I don't minimize it, I only get 650fps! How is this possible? Thanks Hans On Sun, 2002-12-15 at 06:26, Ricardo Castanho de Oliveira Freitas wrote: > On Qua 11 Dez 2002 07:17, Simon Naish wrote: > > Is that to taken seriously? > > I got 715.600fps on my gf2 with nvidia drivers! > > Just to be sure. that's 3758 frames in 5 seconds! > > Ricardo > > > Just my 2 cents worth but as far as I can tell there is no hardware > > acceleration available from the nv driver. 340 fps is seriously poor for > > the small window of gears, and bout right for no hardware accelertion, try > > 6000 (yup 6000) fps with hardware acceleration and a reasonable to good > > modern graphics card. I cant see the open source drivers getting close :o( > > for a very very very long time. > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Ronald J. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 15:14:41 -0500 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [expert] Nvidia driver chaos! > > > > > On Tuesday 10 December 2002 11:06 am, you wrote: > > > > XFree's nv driver does have 3d/accel, XFree86-4.2.1. > > > > My GeF2 gets 35 fps with glxgears in fullscreen, 1024x768x16. 340 fps > > > > in the smaller default window using the nv driver. Either try the > > > > older 2960 nvidia src.rpms, or if limited 3d/accel is all you need, > > > > avoid the nvidia binary crap altogether. > > > > > > Tom, does this mean that sometime (with ongoing development?) in the > > > future we might actually see the fully open sourced drivers being > > > comparable to performance to the closed ones? It would be nice to be able > > > to drop the proprietary drivers... > > > > > > Got my fingers crossed! :-) > > > > > > -- > > > > > > /\ Dark< >Lord \/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > -- > > == > Linux user # 102240 => Machine # 96125 => Seti@home user > == > http://counter.li.org/ & Get Counted! > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [expert] hdc lost interrupt
At 06.48 15/12/2002, you wrote: Hey guys, I'm having a strange problem I'm hoping someone else has run into. I'm trying to install MNF onto an AMD 350 system. One HD on the primary channel and one CDROM on the secondary. I've also tried it with the HD and CDROM both on the primary and the secondary disabled. The first way, it gets to the thank you screen (starting to install). In TTY4 I see that HDC lost interrupt over and over. When both are on the same primary channel I get HDA interrupt lost. That is it. I can't get past this. It sure seems hardware, since I was unable to install openbsd. I can't figure out what is wrong here. Help! I have the same problem with an old 486. Olaf for every kind of mail, except spam! :-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Toshiba Satellite 5105 & NVIDIA Driver Problems......
021214 Ralph C wrote: > The drivers installed ok but there is a 1/4 inch space > on the right hand side of the screen that is not being used? > Has anyone else had this problem? Anyone know how to fix it?? the obvious thing to try is the physical controls on your monitor: have a look at your monitor manual for details. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban & Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] RE: /etc/alternatives listing [was too long]
021215 Franki wrote: > I made the mistake on this box not selecting "documentation" > when I installed the system. > I installed man manually later, but I rather suspect that all the packages > that were installed before I had man onboard didn't install the man stuff. > Is there any way to put all the man stuff back in > without reinstalling all the cups and postfix stuff? FWIW i've had problems with earlier Mdks when i didn't install all the dox at the start. try doing an "update" partial installation, simply selecting "documentation". otherwise, you'll probably have to re-install, but more carefully. generally, Mandrake staff seem to test the full basic installation thoro'ly, but cannot as humans be expected to check every permutation of part-installs. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban & Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
