[expert] TV card problems.

2003-02-08 Thread Fabian Pena-Arellano
Hello,

I am writing since I have some problems and
questions about using a TV card in Linux Mandrake 9.0.
I have a Hauppauge WinTv Primio FM TV card with a 
bt878 chipset and a Rage 128 Ultra TF graphics card.

1. I live in Birmingham in the UK, so how many channels
   should I receive? So far I have been able to see the
   following:

BBC Two: 623250 kHz, station: 40, PAL
itv1:647250 kHz, station: 43, PAL
4TV: 705500 kHz, station: 50, PAL
BBC One: 671250 kHz, station: 46, PAL 

2. Sound is good in these four channels, althouhg
   4TV image is bad, and BC One image is really bad.
   How to improve image quality?

3. How to see subtitles? 
   I am using Zapping and adjusting the evident configuration
   options doesn't seem to work.


Thank you in advance for reading this e-mail.

Fabian Pena.


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Re: [expert] TV card problems.

2003-02-08 Thread Dave Laird
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Good morning, Fabian...

On Saturday 08 February 2003 10:15 am, Fabian Pena-Arellano wrote:

> 1. I live in Birmingham in the UK, so how many channels
>should I receive? So far I have been able to see the
>following:

Are you receiving signal via television cable or an outdoor antenna? Since I
know little to nothing about your reception area, I cannot tell you much
about what channels are in your area. However, if you are using an antenna
instead of cable, your results may vary widely.

>   BBC Two: 623250 kHz, station: 40, PAL
>   itv1:647250 kHz, station: 43, PAL
>   4TV: 705500 kHz, station: 50, PAL
>   BBC One: 671250 kHz, station: 46, PAL
>
> 2. Sound is good in these four channels, althouhg
>4TV image is bad, and BC One image is really bad.
>How to improve image quality?

Again, that depends upon your method of reception.

Nice choice of card, though. 8-) 

Dave
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Re: [expert] TV card problems.

2003-02-08 Thread Fabian Pena-Arellano
Hello,

Thank you for answering. The computer receives the signal
from an outdoor antenna. I live in a university accomodation, and my
other flatmates can see these four channels perfectly using the
same signal.
Any hint would be grately appreciated.

Fabian.

On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, Dave Laird wrote:

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> Good morning, Fabian...
> 
> On Saturday 08 February 2003 10:15 am, Fabian Pena-Arellano wrote:
> 
> > 1. I live in Birmingham in the UK, so how many channels
> >should I receive? So far I have been able to see the
> >following:
> 
> Are you receiving signal via television cable or an outdoor antenna? Since I
> know little to nothing about your reception area, I cannot tell you much
> about what channels are in your area. However, if you are using an antenna
> instead of cable, your results may vary widely.
> 
> > BBC Two: 623250 kHz, station: 40, PAL
> > itv1:647250 kHz, station: 43, PAL
> > 4TV: 705500 kHz, station: 50, PAL
> > BBC One: 671250 kHz, station: 46, PAL
> >
> > 2. Sound is good in these four channels, althouhg
> >4TV image is bad, and BC One image is really bad.
> >How to improve image quality?
> 
> Again, that depends upon your method of reception.
> 
> Nice choice of card, though. 8-)=20
> 
> Dave
> - --=20
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Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-08 Thread Mark
Looks like some people need to discover SQL-Ledger for their accounting
system..http://www.sql-ledger.com been using it for some time and it
is excellent, and even if I was forced to use M$ Win, I would still use
SQL-Ledger as my accounting system.

Cheers
Mark

On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 04:07, Jack Coates wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 21:10, Mark Weaver wrote:
> > ... If I wouldn'tn have to 
> > interact with the accounting system I wouldn't have to boot back into windows 
> > at all.
> 
> I bought VMWare 2 for 89 bucks when it first came out and have been
> using it ever since to keep a Windows system around for Visio. If you
> don't have the cash for VMware or Win4Lin, try Bochs. Or if you like to
> hit yourself in the head with a cinderblock for fun, you could try to
> get the accounting app to run in Wine :-)




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[expert] Upgrading to python 2.2.2

2003-02-08 Thread D. R. Evans
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The current issue of "Linux Journal" has an interesting story about a 
program called "spambayes": interesting enough that I wanted to try it on 
my gateway/firewall machine.

This machine is running LM 8.2 (on the grounds that "if it ain't broke, 
don't fix it"; I have LM 9.0 running on another machine, but don't like to 
make other than minimal changes on the machine that acts as my gateway to 
the world).

The spambayes page says that it needs a later version of python than the 
version 2.1.1 that came with LM 8.2.

"OK", thought I, "that's a minor upgrade that probably won't break 
anything". But when I went to install the python 2.2.2-6mdk rpm from the 
cooker, it wanted several more rpms. These looked innocuous enough (things 
like python libraries). But then those wanted more. And then those wanted 
things like a new version of kde-base and dhcpd. At which point I thought 
"why on Earth should I need to install a new version of dhcpd just because 
I want to upgrade from python 2.1.1 to 2.2.2?"

So the upshot of all this is: what is the recommended procedure for 
upgrading from python 2.1.1 to 2.2.2 on an LM 8.2 machine without having to 
mess with anything major and with a reasonable assurance that nothing will 
break?

  Doc Evans


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[expert] fetchmail problem

2003-02-08 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
Hi,

Due to a total loss of my working 9.0 system - messed around with 
fsck.ext3 - I lost some config files and now i'm in trouble :(

I set up 9.1Beta3 without any problems and it's great! Now I wanted to 
use Mutt together with postfix and fetchmail. I coould rescue the 
main.conf of postfix and the ~/.fetchmailrc from my old system, so it 
should work:

.fetchmailrc

poll pop.onlinehome.de protocol pop3 user "111" with password \
 "aaa" is wobo here

Of course this is one line in the original file.
I have spoolfile  /var/spool/mail/wobo and that should do it but when I 
start 'fetchmail -v' I get logged in at the ISP's pop3 server and it 
tells me that 6 messages are there to be polled. Then I get:

--
fetchmail: POP3> TOP 1 
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 4488 octets
Message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: reading 1 of 6 (4488 Octetts)
fetchmail: Protocol error in SMTP-Listener
fetchmail: SMTP connection to localhost failed
fetchmail: POP3> QUIT
fetchmail: POP3< This is a multi-part message in MIME format...
fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while polling from pop.onlinehome.de
--
I translated that from the German messages. I have no idea what a 'smtp 
listener' (German: SMTP-Lauscher) is and what I can do. Google did not 
help , I think due to my poor translation of the message.

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Re: [expert] TV card problems.

2003-02-08 Thread Dave Laird
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Good evening, everyone...

On Saturday 08 February 2003 11:31 am, Fabian Pena-Arellano said:

>   Thank you for answering. The computer receives the signal
> from an outdoor antenna. I live in a university accomodation, and my
> other flatmates can see these four channels perfectly using the
> same signal.
>   Any hint would be grately appreciated.

Off the top of my head I'd say try using one of those signal amplifiers you
can find in most electronics shops, and see if it makes a difference. Of
course if your luck follows mine, what you get is really *well* amplified
noise and scatter on the screen. Let us know, though. If I get some time free
this weekend I'll try to replicate the problem, uh... with different
television stations, of course. 8-) 

Dave
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Re: [expert] Upgrading to python 2.2.2

2003-02-08 Thread civileme
On Saturday 08 February 2003 02:39 pm, D. R. Evans wrote:
> The current issue of "Linux Journal" has an interesting story about a
> program called "spambayes": interesting enough that I wanted to try it on
> my gateway/firewall machine.
>
> This machine is running LM 8.2 (on the grounds that "if it ain't broke,
> don't fix it"; I have LM 9.0 running on another machine, but don't like to
> make other than minimal changes on the machine that acts as my gateway to
> the world).
>
> The spambayes page says that it needs a later version of python than the
> version 2.1.1 that came with LM 8.2.
>
> "OK", thought I, "that's a minor upgrade that probably won't break
> anything". But when I went to install the python 2.2.2-6mdk rpm from the
> cooker, it wanted several more rpms. These looked innocuous enough (things
> like python libraries). But then those wanted more. And then those wanted
> things like a new version of kde-base and dhcpd. At which point I thought
> "why on Earth should I need to install a new version of dhcpd just because
> I want to upgrade from python 2.1.1 to 2.2.2?"
>
> So the upshot of all this is: what is the recommended procedure for
> upgrading from python 2.1.1 to 2.2.2 on an LM 8.2 machine without having to
> mess with anything major and with a reasonable assurance that nothing will
> break?
>
>   Doc Evans


Well get the source rpm and build it on your 8.2 machine with rpm --rebuild

what you are encountering is the fact that binaries are incompatible between 
8.2 and 9.0 because there was a change in the glibc version, as well as a 
host of dependencies.

You may not be out of the woods with the source but it should be 
compatible--once you have used the rebuild, you should find a good rpm in 

/usr/src/RPM/RPMS

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Re: [expert] fetchmail problem

2003-02-08 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
On Sunday 09 February 2003 06:04, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:

> --
> fetchmail: POP3> TOP 1 
> fetchmail: POP3< +OK 4488 octets
> Message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: reading 1 of 6 (4488 Octetts)
> fetchmail: Protocol error in SMTP-Listener
> fetchmail: SMTP connection to localhost failed
> fetchmail: POP3> QUIT
> fetchmail: POP3< This is a multi-part message in MIME format...
> fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while polling from
> pop.onlinehome.de
 --

Found the solution and it may be interesting for other users:
I have to use sasl for authentification at my ISP's SMTP server. Now 
during installation I saw that sasl was automagically marked for 
install when I selected postfix to be installed.

I'd never thought that sasl will be installed but not the libsasl-plugin 
which is essential to sasl. The plugin is on CD3 and urpmi installs it 
without problem. No further configuring, right after I installed the 
plugin everything worked.

How can MandrakeSoft forget this dependency?

I only know this because I read the paper on using sasl with postfix at 
MandrakeSecure. It's written there as prerequisite for installation of 
sasl. 

This small problem kept me up the longer part of the night!

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Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-08 Thread James Sparenberg
Jack,
   Told my 2 year old that if he pushed that button his fingers would
disapear. (In a calm voice.)  He looked at me  looked at his fingers
smiled and said "No daddy" . But he didn't push the button.  Take my
tactic.  The button on the front of the box has been disabled. (I pulled
the switch out of the case.) If worse comes to worse. I pull the tail
from the wall.

James


On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 09:18, Jack Coates wrote:
> On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 06:36, Luca Olivetti wrote:
> > Luca Olivetti wrote:
> > 
> > > I can lock my 9.0 box at will, just capturing video or trying to use 
> > > full duplex audio (when the load is high).
> > 
> > BTW, minutes after writing this, my 3 years old son managed to freeze X 
> > (no, not the whole system, I was running mozilla remotely with no 
> > problem), but that's bound to happen with nvidia drivers :-\
> > 
> > Bye
> 
> my four year old is the number one source of failure since I upgraded my
> power supply, he's a big fan of pushing buttons and pulling cords.
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[expert] more msec woes

2003-02-08 Thread .
	I have to say msec is the single most frustrating piece of mandrake.  I 
have severla mandrake machines, and on all but one the 
/etc/security/msec/perm.local file will successfully change the 
permissions and ownership of files listed in it.  For some reason, on 
this one single box it seems to be ignored.  I've gone so far as copy 
the file from a working machine.  Anyone else run into this problem and 
solve it?

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Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-08 Thread Vox

This time Vincent Danen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
becomes daring and writes:

> On Sat Feb 08, 2003 at 12:10:59AM -0500, Mark Weaver wrote:
>> everytime one of the eh-hem...programs leaks so bad it stuffs the entire 
>> system, or explorer craps out and takes down the entire system. pa-Lease! 
>> I've been throwing everything thing I can think of and some things I've 
>> thought of myself that I'm rather proud of and I've only been able to totally 
>> freeze my Mandrake desktop bad enough that I had to do a hardboot all of two 
>> times. I've been running Mandrake since 7.0. ( now running Mandrake 9.0 ) 
>> strongest, most well thought out and best put together OS I"ve ever seen, and 
>> I've seen a few.
>
> Agreed.  It's pretty solid.  I did manage to hang my cooker box once or
> twice, but hey, it's cooker.  I expect this sort of stuff
> occassionally.

  I locked my cooker box tonight...after 60 days of uptime (power went
  out, no UPS...lost around 30 or 40 days on that)...finally decided
  to move stuff to the second 120gig HD I got...for some reason,
  diskdrake didn't like the hdh disk...it didn't complain about hdg
  (exactly the same model)...I fdisk/mkfs'ed hdh by hand and it
  worked...but diskdrake ate my X...which tends to lock kboard and
  mouse when you run the nvidia drivers...so hard reboot :( But...it's
  my first lockup since I moved to cooker circa 8.2b1

> Yup.  I would be Win-free, except for EverQuest.  I hear it's coming out for
> the Mac soon, which would be great, except the Mac version won't be able to
> interact with the Win version, meaning separate servers.  Meaning starting
> all over again.  =(  I'll keep my 5GB Win2k partition specifically to play
> it.  My Wintendo, as it were.

  Uhm...I've heard you can run EverCrack on WineX and play well, with
  a few details (some sounds or some crap like that...I don't play
  EverCrack :) google is your friend :)

> So there is *one* good thing about Windows, for me.  =)

  Nah, if you can WineX it, you don't need windows :)

  Vox, who loves his WC3 and D2 on winex :)

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[expert] Saving rpms dw by urpmi

2003-02-08 Thread Joan Tur
Hallo!

I'd like to save some of the rpms downloaded by urpmi, but I've only found 
--noclean and it just doesn't erase the existing rpms in 
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms...

Am I missing any parameter??  8-?

TIA
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[expert] X experts please help! - in need of proper numpad handling

2003-02-08 Thread Will Styles
hello.

i like selecting text in kde apps using the keyboard
(shift+arrow key) but i cannot use the numpad arrow
keys because in Xfree86, shift+ acts like
numlock e.g.:

shift+top_arrow = 8
shift+bottom_arrow = 2
shift+left_arrow = 4
shift+right_arrow = 6

so everytime i go to select text in kwrite, i start
typing numbers instead :(

is there a way of configuring the numpad to work like
it does in windows? i.e.:

arrow_key = movement
shift+arrow_key = select text, not numbers *please*!!!
numlock+arrow_key = numbers
shift+numlock+arrow_key = numbers

other than working supermount this is the last thing i
need before i (and everyone else in my office) can
move to linux, so please are there any suggestions?

thanks
- Will


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[expert] Nvidia Drivers 4191 and Geforce Ti500

2003-02-08 Thread Joerg Mertin
Hi Folks,

I having here quite an issue with the Setup and the 4191-Drivers Serie.
Now - the 3123-Drivers do work without a Problem.

Here is a little Explanation on the Problem:
If I configure the 4191 - I happened to get the X-Windows running only 
once - but I don know why it worked.

Usually I get a Hard-Lock when switching from 3123 to 4191.
As I do have another System on the Lan - performing a SSH to the 
Workstation, and then Starting the X-Server brings nothing. It locks 
hard. Now - you'll come telling me it's a Hardware issue. Well - yes - 
and no.

I can play for Hours UT2003 without a glitch using 3123 - so I guess 
everything is OK here.

It can't be the Mainboard. I had an Asus A7A266  before - and I thought 
it could be the MB. Now that I have a Asus A7N8X Delux, exactly the same 
happens.

Here is the System Configuration:
A7N8X Delux, 2x256MBytes Ram, Athlon XP 2400, IBM 40GByte Harddrive, 3D 
Prophet III Titanium 500, Connected to a Eizo 465 TFT using the Digital 
output.

A7A266, 2x256MBytes Ram, Athlon 1.3GHz, IBM 40GB harddrive, 3D Prophet 
III Titanium 500, Connected to a Eizo 465 TFT using the Digital output.

Note - the Latest NVidia Drivers do work under Windows (Can't test 
anymore - as with my switch to A7N8X - I have no more windows running - 
I don't need it).

PS: I do know that the modules.conf and modules.devfs do change when 
performing the upgrade - and I have adapted these even by hand - but 
this changed nothing -> Hard lock.

If anyone had a tip - I can also sendmy XFree86-Config file in, or the 
XFree.0.log file if it helps - but it seems to be in the Drivers 
themselves ...

PS: I use the Mandrake-9.0 and some texstar-RPMs, and I have compiled my 
own kernel (Note: Mdk-Kernel or Own kernel - exactly the same behaviour 
...).

Thx for any hints

Cheers

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Re: [expert] Nvidia Drivers 4191 and Geforce Ti500

2003-02-08 Thread Steffen Barszus
On Saturday 08 February 2003 13:24, Joerg Mertin wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> I having here quite an issue with the Setup and the 4191-Drivers Serie.
> Now - the 3123-Drivers do work without a Problem.
>
> Here is a little Explanation on the Problem:
> If I configure the 4191 - I happened to get the X-Windows running only
> once - but I don know why it worked.

have you took in account to unload NVdriver and load nvidia instead ? the last 
driver from nvidia has this change. Further be sure not to have NVdriver in 
/etc/modules and modules.conf maps the right module. Just a fast guess from 
here. Further I have hard freezes if I switch the terminal and back to X 
several times. If I avoid this I have an uptime of several weeks, without 
avoiding it a freeze every day.

-- 
Regards
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Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-08 Thread Pierre Fortin
On Fri, 7 Feb 2003 23:35:17 -0800 Dave Laird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> Good evening, everyone...

Good morning...  sorta.

> On Friday 07 February 2003 09:47 pm, Vincent Danen wrote:
> > On Sat Feb 08, 2003 at 12:10:59AM -0500, Mark Weaver wrote:
> 
> > > In my experience you've got to try pretty damn hard to break
> > > Mandrake linux. For getting work done there's just no comparison
> > > between windows and Linux. the two of them don't even belong in the
> > > same breath let alone in the same ball park. and I'm not bashing
> > > windows just for the sake of it. My workstation at work dual boots
> > > win2K and Mandrake Linux. While I hacking out code for something at
> > > work I'm running Mandrake. My boss runs win98...he has to reboot
> > > sometimes 3-4 times...I just keep working. If I wouldn'tn have to
> > > interact with the accounting system I wouldn't have to boot back
> > > into windows at all.
> 
> I was going to simply let this thread slide on by my workstation and
> keep my mouth shut, as it's Friday, and I am exhausted after a 60+ hour
> week. Then I remembered my little "chart", and after finding it in the
> archive directory, and reviewing the results of nearly two years of
> comparitive studies and constant testing, particularly with regard to
> Windows XP versus Mandrake 9.0, I simply *had* to say something. 

Slide by...  Ditto...  my "little chart" consisted of updating
/etc/reason4reboot on every version since about 7.2 -- sadly, 9.0 has been
rebooted so many times that I gave up on this ritual.

> Between a huge volume of e-mail, plus constant involvement in various
> other writing projects, programming in Perl and Delphi and various other
> forms of database development, I would say I probably am as hard on a
> workstation as anyone else. For a fortunately brief period of time each
> year, I have performed quality analyses on two other workstations
> powered by Microsoft products and my own workstation running Mandrake.
> There is *not* a year but what the Mandrake box has handily won, but
> this year neither of the XP boxes stood a chance when it came to the
> race for efficiency. 

My laptop is always running 8 desktops, 3 users locally (3 sylpheed (7
accounts), 3 gnucash (avg 2 accounts open)), remote ssh'ed to 2 other
users on my server (w/X sessions), a common galeon (3 windows with around
15 tabs open), several emacs windows (6 at the moment), 2 korganizers,
ZERO ohphone (never fixed), etc.


> Here is a tiny sample:
> 
> Current Uptime:  Windows 2 days 6 hoursMandrake 14 months 9 days

Windows = not used since 1998
Mdk 8.2 = 85 days (SCSI tight loop lockup)
Mdk 9.0 = reboot instead of suspend/resume which requires hard reset

> Mean average: Windows 2+ days  Mandrake 13 months+

My Windows record was 6 crashes in 1 hour
 -- had around 15 (IIRC) troubles open with M$ at the time.

> Last forced reboot   Windows 2 daysMandrake NEVER

Windows (pre-mid-98) -- duh!
Mdk 8.2 and prior -- rare
Mdk 9.0 -- several times per day until 'trigger' found to be
suspend/resume

> Time consumed in last patch/upgrade:
>   Windows 3.2 hours   Mandrake .75 hours (45 mins)

"last" Mdk -- 5 mins

> Viruses/worms   Windows (2)   Mandrake 0

None on any OS (lucky I guess)
Hacked once -- Caldera evaluation

> Catastrophic faults Windows 9 Mandrake 0

Windows -- led to a heart attack 
Mdk 8.2 -- still have one system down
Mdk 9.0 -- ext3 seems to be saving my bacon

> (failures which required user intervention and loss of use)
> 
> Here's an anomaly that stands out:
> 
> Most productive version of each brand:
> Windows 98

   None!

> Mandrake 8.2 and up

   Mdk 8.2 and PRIOR

> I keep the Windows machines running only because the corporate databases
> are written entirely in FoxBase, but we are slowly beginning to phase
> that out in favor of Kylix, which means within the next year database
> development will be moved entirely to Mandrake workstations. 

I run NO Windows machines and will not support anyone else doing so -- I
help my sister with her MS (multiple-sclerosis) consulting business -- she
got tired of M$ crashes and asked me to install Linux 2 years ago.

> To be politically-correct, I am not here to bash Windows. However, given
> the number of times the Windows boxes have been patched and upgraded, I
> still cannot seem to do better than 2 or 3 days uptime before one or
> both of them crash or require a reboot. 

To be PC, I have no need to bash windows -- I let the fact speak for
itself -- as stated on my web pages: "This is a Micro$oft-free site -- one
Windows-induced heart attack in 1998 was enough!"

To be less PC...  Mdk 9.0 on my laptop is has been giving me tightness in
the fists which hopefully won't translate into tightness in my chest...  

Am I happy with Mandrake?  Yes... UNTIL 9.0 -- since, an emphati

Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-08 Thread Luca Olivetti
Vincent Danen wrote:


Agreed.  It's pretty solid.  I did manage to hang my cooker box once or
twice, but hey, it's cooker.  I expect this sort of stuff occassionally.


I can lock my 9.0 box at will, just capturing video or trying to use 
full duplex audio (when the load is high).
Traced the problem to the kernel compiled with gcc3 and a not really up 
to date bttv driver, as well as a non functional alsa subsystem.
Now I'm using 8.2 kernel and everything is almost fine.
I didn't try cooker kernels because they caused strange problems on 
another test machine and I'm only using xfs on this one.

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Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-08 Thread Luca Olivetti
Luca Olivetti wrote:


I can lock my 9.0 box at will, just capturing video or trying to use 
full duplex audio (when the load is high).

BTW, minutes after writing this, my 3 years old son managed to freeze X 
(no, not the whole system, I was running mozilla remotely with no 
problem), but that's bound to happen with nvidia drivers :-\

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Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-08 Thread et
On Saturday 08 February 2003 09:06 am, Luca Olivetti wrote:
> Vincent Danen wrote:
> > Agreed.  It's pretty solid.  I did manage to hang my cooker box once or
> > twice, but hey, it's cooker.  I expect this sort of stuff occassionally.
>
> I can lock my 9.0 box at will, just capturing video or trying to use
> full duplex audio (when the load is high).
> Traced the problem to the kernel compiled with gcc3 and a not really up
> to date bttv driver, as well as a non functional alsa subsystem.
> Now I'm using 8.2 kernel and everything is almost fine.
> I didn't try cooker kernels because they caused strange problems on
> another test machine and I'm only using xfs on this one.
>
> Bye
would be nice to know more about your lockups, since I don't get lockups. what 
sound chips and what video card and drivers are you using? when you say 
"almost fine" what sort of problems do you have with 8.2 still? what does 
"lspcidrake" say and what does "cat /proc/pci" say



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Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-08 Thread Luca Olivetti
et wrote:


would be nice to know more about your lockups, since I don't get lockups. what 

easy, I used to use a program called vcr that captures from the tv card 
and compresses to divx on the fly. Works (or better, used to work, it 
doesn't with recent avifile versions) with 8.2 kernel, immediate lockup 
with 9.0 kernel.
Something similar happened with ffmpeg.
A couple other programs dealing with tv capture and processing have the 
same symptoms.
One captures audio and video and "processes" them on the fly (sorry, I 
can't be more specific), so it needs full duplex audio. With 8.2 kernel 
it works fine with alsa (in fact that's the recommended driver), with 
9.0 it doesn't work at all with alsa, it does with oss but it will lock 
hard the machine after a while.
Tried a kernel rpm from SGI (all my filesystems are xfs) and had the 
same problems. The kernel rpm from SGI also was compiled with gcc3.
With great pain I tried to recompile the 9.0 kernel srpm with gcc-2.96.
I don't remember if I was successful in compiling it or not. I think I 
was, it solved this problem but it created others, so I stuck with 8.2 
kernel.

sound chips and what video card and drivers are you using? when you say 
"almost fine" what sort of problems do you have with 8.2 still? what does 

No, I don't really have problems with 8.2 kernel unless I'm using nvidia 
drivers, but that's not really a Mandrake or SGI fault. BTW, all the 
tests with 9.0 kernel have been made with the open source nv driver, 
just to keep the nvidia binary module out of the picture.

"lspcidrake" say and what does "cat /proc/pci" say


It's pretty common hardware:

$ lspcidrake
unknown : VIA Technologies|VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133]
unknown : VIA Technologies|VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133 AGP]
unknown : VIA Technologies|VT82C686 [Apollo Super]
unknown : VIA Technologies|VT82C586 IDE [Apollo]
usb-uhci: VIA Technologies|VT82C586B USB
usb-uhci: VIA Technologies|VT82C586B USB
unknown : VIA Technologies|VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI]
via82cxxx_audio : VIA Technologies|VT82C686 [Apollo Super AC97/Audio]
ohci1394: VIA Technologies|OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
bttv: Brooktree Corporation|Bt878
btaudio : Brooktree Corporation|Bt878
8139too : Realtek|RTL-8139
Card:NVIDIA GeForce2 DDR (generic): nVidia Corporation|NV11 (Geforce2 MX)
unknown : Virtual|Hub []
unknown : Virtual|Hub []

$ cat /proc/pci
PCI devices found:
  Bus  0, device   0, function  0:
Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133] (rev 3).
  Master Capable.  Latency=8.
  Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xd800 [0xdbff].
  Bus  0, device   1, function  0:
PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133 AGP] 
(rev 0).
  Master Capable.  No bursts.  Min Gnt=12.
  Bus  0, device   7, function  0:
ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super South] 
(rev 64).
  Bus  0, device   7, function  1:
IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. Bus Master IDE (rev 6).
  Master Capable.  Latency=32.
  I/O at 0xd000 [0xd00f].
  Bus  0, device   7, function  2:
USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. UHCI USB (rev 22).
  IRQ 11.
  Master Capable.  Latency=32.
  I/O at 0xd400 [0xd41f].
  Bus  0, device   7, function  3:
USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. UHCI USB (#2) (rev 22).
  IRQ 11.
  Master Capable.  Latency=32.
  I/O at 0xd800 [0xd81f].
  Bus  0, device   7, function  4:
Bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI] (rev 64).
  IRQ 9.
  Bus  0, device   7, function  5:
Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. AC97 Audio 
Controller (rev 80).
  IRQ 5.
  I/O at 0xdc00 [0xdcff].
  I/O at 0xe000 [0xe003].
  I/O at 0xe400 [0xe403].
  Bus  0, device  10, function  0:
FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. OHCI Compliant IEEE 
1394 Host Controller (rev 67).
  IRQ 5.
  Master Capable.  Latency=32.  Max Lat=32.
  Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xde00 [0xde0007ff].
  I/O at 0xe800 [0xe87f].
  Bus  0, device  12, function  0:
Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 (rev 2).
  IRQ 5.
  Master Capable.  Latency=32.  Min Gnt=16.Max Lat=40.
  Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xde001000 [0xde001fff].
  Bus  0, device  12, function  1:
Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 (rev 2).
  IRQ 5.
  Master Capable.  Latency=32.  Min Gnt=4.Max Lat=255.
  Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xde002000 [0xde002fff].
  Bus  0, device  13, function  0:
Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139 (rev 16).
  IRQ 11.
  Master Capable.  Latency=32.  Min Gnt=32.Max Lat=64.
  I/O at 0xec00 [0xecff].
  Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xde003000 [0xde0030ff].
  Bus  1, device   0, function  0:
VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 (GeFo

[expert] Lyx for Mandrake 9.0 with QT UI

2003-02-08 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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I tried posting this to the list yesterday but it never appeared in the 
list(?).  If any of you are lyx users you may appreciate the Qt frontend in 
place of the ugly/clunky xforms frontend.  An individual in the lyx-users 
list has produced a Mandrake 9.0 Lyx rpm with the Qt frontend instead of the 
default xforms frontend.  It is very nice.  

It is available at ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/bin/lyx/1.3.0

It is a major pain to build lyx with the Qt frontend.  Many have tried and 
failed.  This one works nicely if you have kde 3.0.3 and its qt3.x installed.  
You should be able to  install and use it by using --nodeps (I did).  It will 
likely complain about needing qt if you don't use nodeps, even though you 
have it installed.  A quirk associated with the needs of building the lyx Qt 
frontend.  

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Re: [expert] Nvidia Drivers 4191 and Geforce Ti500

2003-02-08 Thread Joerg Mertin
Hi Steffen,

I do belong to those who actually RTFM before sending help-request.
Even the NVidia forums do have this problem. It seems - the 4191-Series 
drivers have not been tested enough - and produce this kind of 
beheaviour quite often. Most of the User running these under Linux got 
back to 3123 - and that's what I did too - until a solution is found.

Anyway - thx for you help.


Steffen Barszus wrote:
On Saturday 08 February 2003 13:24, Joerg Mertin wrote:

[...]

have you took in account to unload NVdriver and load nvidia instead ? the last 
driver from nvidia has this change. Further be sure not to have NVdriver in 
/etc/modules and modules.conf maps the right module. Just a fast guess from 
here. Further I have hard freezes if I switch the terminal and back to X 
several times. If I avoid this I have an uptime of several weeks, without 
avoiding it a freeze every day.

BTW - switching to Console and back doesn't make any problem around here 
... with 3123 ...

Cheers

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Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-08 Thread Mark Alexander
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 08:52:01AM -0500, Pierre Fortin wrote:
> Mdk 9.0 -- several times per day until 'trigger' found to be
> suspend/resume

I had terrible suspend/resume problems with 9.0 too (crash after every
third or fourth resume).  Switching to a stock 2.4.20 kernel has
helped greatly.  It's hung only twice on resume in two months (hard
disk refused to spin back up, though everything else was working).

The kernels in 7.2 and 8.1 were much better in this area.  Never had a
suspend/ resume problem in two years, on two different IBM laptops.

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Re: [expert] Bandwidth partitioning

2003-02-08 Thread Jack Coates
now you do: http://www.monkeynoodle.org/lrp/LRP-QoS-HOWTO.html

On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 12:34, Jonathan I. Nori wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Within Morpheus you can set it to only use a certain amount of bandwidth. For the 
>most part, it's fairly good about it (except that the bandwidth controls don't apply 
>to the spyware/leechware portions of the program).
> 
> The only other way to do this is with an expensive router with bandwidth-control 
>filters, like the ones Packeteer makes. I don't know of any free software 
>implementations that will allow you to do bandwidth limiting through a standard 
>mandrake (or linux of any kind) router/firewall/workstation.
> 
> Jon  8^)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -
> 
> Where is the horse and the rider? Where is the horn that was blowing?
> They have passed like rain on the mountain, like wind in the meadow;
> The days have gone down in the West, behind the hills into shadow.
> How did it come to this?
> 
> -- Theoden King, The Two Towers
> 
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/07/03 12:54PM >>>
> How can I limit my roomates computer to half the bandwidth?  It's no 
> biggy but she keeps forgetting to turn off Morpheus and this is a trick 
> I would like to learn anyway.
> 
> Jim C.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-08 Thread Jack Coates
On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 21:10, Mark Weaver wrote:
> ... If I wouldn'tn have to 
> interact with the accounting system I wouldn't have to boot back into windows 
> at all.

I bought VMWare 2 for 89 bucks when it first came out and have been
using it ever since to keep a Windows system around for Visio. If you
don't have the cash for VMware or Win4Lin, try Bochs. Or if you like to
hit yourself in the head with a cinderblock for fun, you could try to
get the accounting app to run in Wine :-)
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Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-08 Thread Jack Coates
...
> Agreed.  It's pretty solid.  I did manage to hang my cooker box once or
> twice, but hey, it's cooker.  I expect this sort of stuff occassionally.
...

Clearly you don't own a newer ACPI-based i815 Sony Vaio :-) I've had to
upgrade to a cooker kernel to get it to function at all (2.4.20-2mdk,
was either that or compile my own from scratch). Now it is fine as long
as I'm careful about video switches, but I can reliably kernel panic it
by logging out of XFce or leaving VMware in fullscreen mode until the
Windows "it's now safe to turn off your computer" screen.

I've sent a note to Juan Quintela, but since I can't get the oops
because it's video related, there's nothing he can do.

Then there's swsusp, which is another excellent source of crashes. The
mailing list is active with lots of patching going on, but no one has
gotten a new Vaio to work properly yet as of beta 18.
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Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!

2003-02-08 Thread Jack Coates
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 06:36, Luca Olivetti wrote:
> Luca Olivetti wrote:
> 
> > I can lock my 9.0 box at will, just capturing video or trying to use 
> > full duplex audio (when the load is high).
> 
> BTW, minutes after writing this, my 3 years old son managed to freeze X 
> (no, not the whole system, I was running mozilla remotely with no 
> problem), but that's bound to happen with nvidia drivers :-\
> 
> Bye

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power supply, he's a big fan of pushing buttons and pulling cords.
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Re: [expert] X experts please help! - in need of proper numpad handling

2003-02-08 Thread civileme
On Saturday 08 February 2003 01:54 am, Will Styles wrote:
> hello.
>
> i like selecting text in kde apps using the keyboard
> (shift+arrow key) but i cannot use the numpad arrow
> keys because in Xfree86, shift+ acts like
> numlock e.g.:
>
> shift+top_arrow = 8
> shift+bottom_arrow = 2
> shift+left_arrow = 4
> shift+right_arrow = 6
>
> so everytime i go to select text in kwrite, i start
> typing numbers instead :(
>
> is there a way of configuring the numpad to work like
> it does in windows? i.e.:
>
> arrow_key = movement
> shift+arrow_key = select text, not numbers *please*!!!
> numlock+arrow_key = numbers
> shift+numlock+arrow_key = numbers
>
> other than working supermount this is the last thing i
> need before i (and everyone else in my office) can
> move to linux, so please are there any suggestions?
>
> thanks
> - Will
>
>
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I just checked

numlock comes up ON if you select that during install.

if you tap numlock once or select for it to be OFF by default during 
install number pad arrow keys move the cursor and shift-numeric selects 
text

If you have numlock ON then shift plus numeric key selects text, not produces 
numbers.

9.0 has (mostly) working supermount.  you need to back off (not close) on the 
/mnt/cdrom directory in Konqueror or it will not eject properly.  That is a 
KDE problem.


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[expert] Kernels witn 9.0

2003-02-08 Thread Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can previous version kernels be used in 9.0 without problems?  In other words, can you 
simply install the 8.2 kernel files into a 9.0 box?  What about the 2.2.x kernel from
a 8.2 disk?  Are there other packages that depend on the kernel that would need to be 
brought in?

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Re: [expert] Lyx for Mandrake 9.0 with QT UI

2003-02-08 Thread civileme
On Saturday 08 February 2003 06:22 am, Praedor Tempus Atrebates wrote:
> I tried posting this to the list yesterday but it never appeared in the
> list(?).  If any of you are lyx users you may appreciate the Qt frontend in
> place of the ugly/clunky xforms frontend.  An individual in the lyx-users
> list has produced a Mandrake 9.0 Lyx rpm with the Qt frontend instead of
> the default xforms frontend.  It is very nice.
>
> It is available at ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/bin/lyx/1.3.0
>
> It is a major pain to build lyx with the Qt frontend.  Many have tried and
> failed.  This one works nicely if you have kde 3.0.3 and its qt3.x
> installed. You should be able to  install and use it by using --nodeps (I
> did).  It will likely complain about needing qt if you don't use nodeps,
> even though you have it installed.  A quirk associated with the needs of
> building the lyx Qt frontend.
>
> praedor


Yes it works rather well, but use rpm -i once to make sure that you don't have 
other unmet needs like tetex-xdvi or tetex-latex, then use the --nodeps.

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[expert] fonts changed

2003-02-08 Thread francesco.melo
i installed windows font with drakfont

it changed my desktop and konqueror default font
i need to my thesis (times new romans) and openoffice but i don't want  
to change the antialiased default font of mandrake kde 3.1

how can i restore my fonts
or uninstall installed windows fonts?

thanks
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Re: [expert] Kernels witn 9.0

2003-02-08 Thread Luca Olivetti
Bob Puff@NLE wrote:

Can previous version kernels be used in 9.0 without problems?  In other words, can you simply install the 8.2 kernel files into a 9.0 box?  What about the 2.2.x kernel from
a 8.2 disk?  Are there other packages that depend on the kernel that would need to be brought in?


I'm running 9.0 with the 8.2 kernel with no problems (in fact I'm doing 
this because 9.0 kernel was giving me problems).
It's a 2.4 kernel anyway. With older kernel there could be problems with 
some userspace utilities, but I didn't test that. You can install as 
many kernels as you want though (with a little lilo/grub tweaking) and 
if one doesn't work you can simply boot another one.

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Re: [expert] Kernels witn 9.0

2003-02-08 Thread Greg Meyer
On Saturday 08 February 2003 01:31 pm, Bob Puff@NLE wrote:
> Can previous version kernels be used in 9.0 without problems?  In other
> words, can you simply install the 8.2 kernel files into a 9.0 box?  What
> about the 2.2.x kernel from a 8.2 disk?  Are there other packages that
> depend on the kernel that would need to be brought in?
>
> Bob
As long as it is recompiled on your 9.0 box against the 9.0 glibc libraries 
with the gcc 3.2.
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