[expert] Mandrake 9.1rc1 install on Dell C400 - mostly success

2003-03-01 Thread mike . berkley
I installed ML 9.1rc1 on a Dell C400, with mixed
success.

The Good:

- Network and graphics now work correctly.  They
  did not under ML 9.0.

The Bad:
- When selecting individual packages to install,
  it was easy to crash the GUI.  I did it twice.
  - On another system (a Dell SX260), I did not
crash the GUI, but got it into a state where
I could not scroll back through the list of
software packages.



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[expert] Fixing urpmi - correcting botched sources in 9.0

2003-03-01 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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I have had much problems with urpmi on my desktop system.  Virtually any 
package name or fragment I pass through urpmi fails.  My latest failure was 
in trying to install tnef:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] praedor]# urpmi tnef
package perl-Convert-TNEF-0.17-2mdk.noarch is not found.
unable to get source packages, aborting

I get this same result regardless of package.  I do NOT want internet sources, 
I have a pathetic 56k modem connection.  I want to install these packages 
from the distro 9.0 cd's.  How do I update the software manager so that this 
will work properly?  

praedor

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[expert] Re: Fixing urpmi - correcting botched sources in 9.0

2003-03-01 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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On Friday 28 February 2003 03:38 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
 I have had much problems with urpmi on my desktop system.  Virtually any
 package name or fragment I pass through urpmi fails.  My latest failure was
 in trying to install tnef:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] praedor]# urpmi tnef
 package perl-Convert-TNEF-0.17-2mdk.noarch is not found.
 unable to get source packages, aborting

 I get this same result regardless of package.  I do NOT want internet
 sources, I have a pathetic 56k modem connection.  I want to install these
 packages from the distro 9.0 cd's.  How do I update the software manager so
 that this will work properly?

By the way, I know of the website that autogenerates a urpmi command for 
updating but...I do NOT want any internet sources and it appears that the 
website for this only uses internet-based urpmi sources.  

Thanks for any aid,

praedor
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Re: [expert] Contribs

2003-03-01 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 10:32, Todd Lyons wrote:
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 Ron Stodden wrote on Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 08:26:55PM +1100 :
  
 Surely no-one these days is still using text-only browsers, or, worse,
 non-GUI operation. If so, long past time to update.
 
 my infantile angry retort deleted
 
 Yes, I used to use GUI mail clients and got rid of it, opting for mutt.
 It doesn't mean I'm behind the times, it means that I've identified the
 things that I don't like and choose power and flexibility over pretty
 and bloated.
 
 Evolution is making some tremendous inroads to that power and
 flexibility.  The concept of a virtual Inbox is just freaking amazing.
 I like it a lot.  But the ROI (bloat versus power) is not where I want
 it yet, so I won't switch.  But the time may come...
 
 Interestingly,  mozilla has tabbed browsing if you select the 'Modern'
 theme. from Edit  Preferences  Appearance  Themes.
 
 One feature that I didn't like at first, yet strangely am starting to
 like it.  If konsole did tabs instead of icons, I think it would be
 awesome too.

Todd 

   There is an answer for that one (the tabbed vs icons thing)...
Multi-Gnome-Terminal... Except for the menu Icons(it doesn't go into the
K-menu from the install) the generic RPM installs on 8.2 through 9.1
without a hitch Tabbed terminals. (if you set up the configs it also
names the tabs) Tranparency, hidden scroll bars etc etc etc.  
http://multignometerm.sourceforge.net/

Check it out... been using it for about a year and it's gotten very very
solid.

James


 
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[expert] DMA on new Maxtor hard drive

2003-03-01 Thread Azrael
I just installed a brand new 120GB Maxtor hard drive.
Formatted ext3 etc.
When I boot up I get a message about DMA timeout on the new partition,
and also when coping files to the new partition.. it feels as if it is
rather sluggish (could be subconscious).
Also several times copying files has seemed to seize up, and trying an
'ls' on the directory hung the 'ls' command and couldn't break out of it
even with ctrl-c.
Could anyone help me out with some ideas?

many thanks

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Re: [expert] change hostname

2003-03-01 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 11:04, Todd Lyons wrote:
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 Lyvim Xaphir wrote on Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 10:52:04PM -0800 :
  
  Hmvery interesting indeed.  Since dhcp was a concept in and of
  itself to ease configuration problems, and then zeroconf is using dhcp
  to ease configuration problems, which is what *zeroconf itself* is
  supposed to be contributing.  In the case of no dhcp or dns, what the
  hell happens?  Not everybody is connected to a
 
 Not quite.  zeroconf is supposed to provide networking by using
 multicast dns (which tmdns provides).  It uses negotiation with other
 zeroconf hosts to find an ip address in 169.254.0.0/16.  It's more like
 a samba broadcast than anything else.
 
 To anybody who hasn't done it yet, go look at http://www.zeroconf.org
 and look through their technical documents.  It really is quite nice.
 
 I think the problem that cooker people are seeing is that it's
 installing dh-client now instead of dhcpcd and so some of the options
 that were normally set in /etc/sysconfig/network and
 /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth* are not quite working the same
 as they used to.

Interesting that it says it works like NetBios that's the first
thing I always turn off Or rather don't ever turn on in a mixed windows
environment... because it doesn't work all that well... Unless you are
using Novel

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Re: [expert] Automatic e-mail notification

2003-03-01 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 28 Feb 2003 8:02 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Friday 28 February 2003 11:18 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
  Correct.  I have 'beep' set and automatic checking.  Works well when I'm
  in the room, and I just look anyway if I've been out for some time.
 
  Anne

 Ditto here. My question is, can that beep sound be changed for something
 else (You've got mail - NOT) grin

Well, it offers 'execute command line' so I would think you could play any 
sound file you chose.

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Re: [expert] mailman problem

2003-03-01 Thread Jack Coates
On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 12:45, Tibor Pittich wrote:
 Da 28. feb 2003, 10:17, Jack Coates napsal(a):
 
  more info, sorry I was in a hurry last time. MDK9.0,
  mailman-2.0.13-2mdk.i586.rpm, the cron jobs fail because they're trying
  to find lockfiles and such in /home/vdanen.
 
 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cookerm=103859833409064w=2

ach; got it. I just recompiled from src.rpm; the important thing to me
was to get off of my tarball-compiled edition in /usr/local, which I
eventually did manage to do.

thanks for the pointer, glad to know that Vincent is aware of the issue.
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Re: [expert] Contribs

2003-03-01 Thread Todd Lyons
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Michael Adams wrote on Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 08:42:58AM +1300 :
 
 Have we pretty well convinced you yet?

If you've followed this list for a couple of years, you'll know the
answer to that is no.  And it won't happen.  Ron is set in his ways,
just as much as you are set in yours.  Just agree to disagree and let it
die with each of you thinking you're right.

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Re: [expert] Contribs

2003-03-01 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Friday 28 February 2003 02:20 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Friday 28 Feb 2003 6:19 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:

 yada, yada, yada snipped

 He's got two choices, Greg.  If he doesn't turn  it off a large proportion
 of the list won't read them, so he won't get as much help.  It's up to him.

 Anne

Thanks, Anne, you've stated the Number One reason for NOT posting HTML. I find 
it interesting that the same people that are objecting to HTML (yr. obed. 
servant excluded) are also the same ones who are most apt to have a useful 
answer, from which I conclude that posting to a Linux expert list in HTML is 
similar to trying to catch sharks by using broccoli for bait.

Number Two reason for not using HTML: Not everyone on this list has flat rate, 
no-cap, broadband access.

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[expert] Question on KDE

2003-03-01 Thread James Sparenberg
All,

   I've suddenly lost kde It won't start anything and the only error
I get is a core dump.   It happened when I upgraded to the latest 3.1
kdm kcontrol nothing will start. But if I switch (and I did ) to gdm
...everything but kde runs.  So I removed all of kde... all of qt all
the dot files ... and still the same thing.  No errors just a core
dump.  

Next I tried to start it from a command line (kcontrol) I get  possible
errors.  Well they are errors just that it's possible they may indicate
something.  

Xlib:  extension RENDER missing on display :0.0.
DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-12856' to 'kcontrol'
ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error!

Now the Xlib error should indicate that I don't have font aliasing
working ok... it works elsewhere but for the moment ok and
shouldn't stop it.  The second one seems to indicate that DCOP doesn't
work... When I carefully and completely removed kde all libs and qt that
should have been gone.  Then a new install of kdebase should have
restored it 

The question is ... any ideas where else to look?  I'm not good at core
dumps so I don't get much out of it

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Re: [expert] Contribs

2003-03-01 Thread Michael Adams
On Sat, 01 Mar 2003 07:00, Ron Stodden wrote:
 Simone Riccio wrote:
  Dear Ron,
  html is of course nice 2 see and maybe look professional but please
  consider that not everyone on this list has broadband, and goes on
  with 56Kbps modems. So, that's more than a cosmetic or geek or old
  fashion thing... It involves respect for those who can be eased by the
  lesser size of text messages!

 The greater size of html messages causes me, for one,  no extra cost or
 problem, and all I have is an old age pension - nobody could be worse
 off for resources.

 html does not require broadband, since it makes no perceptible
 difference in message download time.


UTTER TRIPE
The overhead of HTML alone approximately doubles the size of an e-mail, and 
then HTML can be used to embed so many different objects
IMG
SRChttp://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/gemini/gemini11/hires/s65-58504.jpg;

Ah - don't try this link folks. It is a 5.5 Meg pic. Dang i hope this doesn't 
start loading into everyones client.

 So, in what way 'eased'?

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Re: [expert] Contribs

2003-03-01 Thread Dale Huckeby
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Greg Meyer wrote:

 On Friday 28 February 2003 12:48 pm, Ron Stodden wrote:
 !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN
 html
 head

 html crap deleted . . .

 href=http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/;http://members.optusnet.com.au
/ronst//a Empty warhead found in White House
 /pre
 /body
 /html
 
 Except none of us can see them.  Ron, it is plain and simply really annoying 
 and only seems to be useful for you.  The list rules plainly ask for posts to 
 be made in plain text only, yet you continue to selfishly insist that your 
 way is better.  Well no one else posts in html, so maybe you could give in a 
 little and turn it off only when you post to this list.

  If the list rules plainly say no html, and one selfish doofus insists on 
doing it anyway, perhaps he should be removed.

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Re: [expert] VMWare /usr/src/linux/include for 9.1

2003-03-01 Thread Trevor Rhodes
 linux-2.4.21pre4-Xmdk

 Where X is the version number of the kernel it's source for... IF I'm
 right VMware needs this to match the number of the running kernel on you
 box.  Make sure it does.  If not it's worth it to install the upgraded
 kernel (they have improved it a lot)  also make sure that the symlink
 linux points to the src directory that matches your running kernel (you
 might have more than one and it could be pointing at the wrong one.

I downloaded and installed what I thought was the right kernel file.  It 
worked, but still 12 hours too late.  Nevermind, I still got done what I had 
to be it in a more roundabout fashion.  Thanks people.

 Regards
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Re: [expert] mailman problem

2003-03-01 Thread Vincent Danen
On Fri Feb 28, 2003 at 10:17:59AM -0800, Jack Coates wrote:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] jack]$ sudo grep -r vdanen /var/lib/mailman/ | grep -v logs
   vincent.txt
  
  produces the attached
  
  needless to say this plays hell with the cron jobs.
 
 more info, sorry I was in a hurry last time. MDK9.0,
 mailman-2.0.13-2mdk.i586.rpm, the cron jobs fail because they're trying
 to find lockfiles and such in /home/vdanen.

Can you grab mailman -3mdk from cooker and rebuild it and give it a try?
You might even be able to use the binary, although I'm not sure.

IIRC, I did some fixes to clean that up, but I don't really use mailman, or
even particularly like it, so I didn't do anything more than grep for my
name in the pyc files.  They should be gone in -3mdk.

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Re: Re: [expert] Mandrake Out of Control?

2003-03-01 Thread flacycads
Todd,
I figured it was good- and I'm not overclocking the ram or the KX7 FSB, and am 
running serial presence detect ram timings. That Crucial PC2700 is excellent, 
and is known to do much better than rated, and the Abit KX7 is known to reach 
a 180-190MHZ FSB. However, if I started doing that stuff, I would complicate 
my linux learning curve, which for me, is complicated enough. I need to know 
my hardware is stable, eliminating that as a source of any problems, so then 
I can center in on how I've messed up, or not understood some aspect of 
linux.

I must admit though, I do like to tweak the hardware- must be left over from 
my gas-powered model airplane days back in the '50s, and my life-long 
obsession with never wasting any time. That, or I've entered my second 
childhood. It's ironic that I'm still using 56k dial-up- thus my desire to 
squeeze out every last nano second of performance. Perhaps those broadbanders 
have forgotten how frustrating dial-up can be?

Oh yeah- I notice you're running 2.4.21pre4. I installed that too (the cooker 
rpm), on a fresh 9.0 install, and it seemed to work fine. I just noticed that 
there is a preemptive kernel patch for 2.4.21pre2- do you think that would 
work on a vanilla pre4 with a stock 9.0? And is Mandrake going to offer 
preemptive kernels before 2.6? I did do a 2.4.20 vanilla and preemptive- 
worked great on 9.0. Or- maybe just wait for the 9.1 release.

Robert Crawford

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 flacycads wrote on Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 12:09:13AM -0500 :
  Todd,
  I thought I mentioned I had tweaked the drive before, but perhaps I just

 You may have.

   Timing buffer-cache reads:   128 MB in  0.45 seconds =284.44 MB/sec

 HOLY CRAP.  That's smoking fast.  Almost double what I get.  That's the
 advantage of PC2700 RAM.

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Re: [expert] missing file?

2003-03-01 Thread g


James Sparenberg wrote:
On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 02:20, g wrote:

James Sparenberg wrote:

As a result of reading an earlier mail from Greg I got curious about the
config for dhclient  According to the man pages there should be a

curious about is that either the man page is wrong or something got
missed.  Of course the third option is If it ain't broke don't fix it
possibly missed or possibly delayed.

as versions progress, things get changed, some get moved.
man pages do not always get updated to changes or moves.
authors of man pages are not always authors of changes
or moves and therefore, do not always get informed and
man pages appear that are in error.
then again, it is possible that author of man page is
running a diff distrib from mandrake and in his distrib,
it is where he shows in man page.
if you are of desire to see updated man pages, email
author, if there is no 'bug report address', of man
page that you have noted a discrepancy.
ever hear of cooks and broth?

peace out.

tc,hago.




I understand... but sometimes what appears to be a bug isn't ... so I
ask to understand.
it never hurts to ask when you are not of knowledge of subject.

Especially since it is working for me,
as you said, If it ain't broke don't fix it,
but, if you want to refine it, tweak it.
 I was hoping someone knew what was going on

as of yet, i have not found need to delve into dhcp.
i may be in error, but i would tend to believe that
there is a list group dealing with dhcp that could
give you help if you have need to tweak.
peace out.

tc,hago.

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Re: [expert] RPM help -- finding library in source package

2003-03-01 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 12:27, Kwan Lowe wrote:
 On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 14:07, James Sparenberg wrote:
 
  Took me a moment... Edit /etc/ld.so.conf and make sure it has the
  directory your libraries are in listed 
  
  For example
  
  /usr/X11R6/lib
  /usr/lib/qt3/lib
  
  are the defaults on my box then I added
  
  /usr/local/lib
  
  for some stuff I put there.
  
  then run ldconfig and it should be good to go.
  
 
 Thanks James.
 I'm familiar with the system ld.conf. I'm actually looking for an RPM
 specific file to override the individual package dependencies. This
 allows arbitrary files, not just the libraries, to be skipped during the
 dependency check. 
 
 

If I understand you then you are doing say for example instead of
libfoo.rpm you have built libfoo from tarball... The only thing I've
done that worked in this area is editing the spec file and changing the
Requires line to reflect what I had.  One place I'd look is to google
for using rpm's on slackware... this might help.

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Re: [expert] change hostname

2003-03-01 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 11:09, Todd Lyons wrote:
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 David McGlone wrote on Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 10:04:28PM -0500 :
  
  I never had a problem setting my hostname with Red Hat, but since I switched 
  to Mandrake, some things are just so different.
  With Red Hat, the hostname was set in /etc/hostname
  on mandrake as I've learned is in /etc/sysconfig/network.
 
 RedHat also uses /etc/sysconfig/network:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# rpm -q redhat-release
 redhat-release-7.3-1
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# grep HOST /etc/sysconfig/network  
 HOSTNAME=www.mrball.net
 
 And before anybody bitches, this is a virtual machine that I purchase
 for my colocation services.  I didn't have a choice on the OS.  I
 offered to assist with making Mandrake available as well, but was told
 no thank you.
 
 Blue skies... todd


Todd,

   Won't get any complaints here.  Frankly because if you kept your head
down into MDK constantly you'd loose a lot of your effectiveness for
Linux and Mandrake do to a very myopic view of the world.

James

PS wanna see something really dirty there is also
/etc/sysconfig/networking/default/network ... yep RH hides multiple
copies to protect you from yourself... it's a config nightmare at times.

 


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[expert] Re: Low latency kernel [was: Mandrake Out of Control?]

2003-03-01 Thread Luca Olivetti
flacycads wrote:
Oh yeah- I notice you're running 2.4.21pre4. I installed that too (the cooker 
rpm), on a fresh 9.0 install, and it seemed to work fine. I just noticed that 
there is a preemptive kernel patch for 2.4.21pre2- do you think that would 
work on a vanilla pre4 with a stock 9.0? And is Mandrake going to offer 
preemptive kernels before 2.6? I did do a 2.4.20 vanilla and preemptive- 
worked great on 9.0. Or- maybe just wait for the 9.1 release.


If you mean low-latency kernel, they're working on it:

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10463633141r=1w=2

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[expert] voice messaging

2003-03-01 Thread mycal62
are there any voice messenger clients for linux like msn messenger?

or any tools to talk to another pc via the internet?

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[expert] test, please don't open

2003-03-01 Thread Francisco

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Re: [expert] Contribs

2003-03-01 Thread Ken Thompson
On Friday 28 February 2003 11:06 am, Ron Stodden wrote:
 Greg Meyer wrote:
 HTML e-mail is always more than likely to be spam than a real message.  In
 fact, I typically have a filter set up to automatically send mails with
  html to the trash.  After I saw civileme's post, I had to go retrieve
  this one to reply to it.  You'll notice how hard it is to read your post.
 
 And yes many still use text-only browsers, for many reasons, not the least
  of which is a security one

 You used kmail.  Does it not handle html messages?

Ron, It's not a matter of whether or not the mail program will read html, it's 
that the folks on *this* list DON'T want to read html.
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Re: [expert] voice messaging

2003-03-01 Thread tarvid
On Friday 28 February 2003 05:28 am, mycal62 wrote:
 are there any voice messenger clients for linux like msn messenger?

 or any tools to talk to another pc via the internet?
Look under Networking, Instant Messaging in the menu.

one of my guys had gnomeeting talking to MS NetMeeting.

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Re: [expert] Automatic e-mail notification

2003-03-01 Thread Dave Laird
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On Friday 28 February 2003 02:34 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Friday 28 Feb 2003 8:02 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
  On Friday 28 February 2003 11:18 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
   Correct.  I have 'beep' set and automatic checking.  Works well when
   I'm in the room, and I just look anyway if I've been out for some time.
  
   Anne
 
  Ditto here. My question is, can that beep sound be changed for
  something else (You've got mail - NOT) grin

 Well, it offers 'execute command line' so I would think you could play any
 sound file you chose.

I have it play a 10 second opening from the Rites of Spring as a .WAV file
using /usr/bin/play (it also works with esdplay) and it works fine. I
wouldn't try this on a lightweight processor, though, as it will bog the
system down. Granted a 500 mz processor or above and a minimum of 256 MEG of
RAM you can have it play anything you prefer. I imagine it would even
gleefully play a MIDI file if you wanted to work out the details. 

It's actually pretty handy if you poll a mail server once in awhile for new
mail. 

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Re: [expert] DMA on new Maxtor hard drive

2003-03-01 Thread tarvid
On Friday 28 February 2003 05:04 pm, Azrael wrote:
 I just installed a brand new 120GB Maxtor hard drive.
 Formatted ext3 etc.
 When I boot up I get a message about DMA timeout on the new partition,
 and also when coping files to the new partition.. it feels as if it is
 rather sluggish (could be subconscious).
that's not good

perhaps limiting the udma level will help

what is the mobo?

jim tarvid


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Re: [expert] RPM help -- finding library in source package

2003-03-01 Thread Steffen Barszus
On Friday 28 February 2003 22:53, James Sparenberg wrote:
 On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 12:27, Kwan Lowe wrote:
  On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 14:07, James Sparenberg wrote:
   Took me a moment... Edit /etc/ld.so.conf and make sure it has the
   directory your libraries are in listed
  
   For example
  
   /usr/X11R6/lib
   /usr/lib/qt3/lib
  
   are the defaults on my box then I added
  
   /usr/local/lib
  
   for some stuff I put there.
  
   then run ldconfig and it should be good to go.
 
  Thanks James.
  I'm familiar with the system ld.conf. I'm actually looking for an RPM
  specific file to override the individual package dependencies. This
  allows arbitrary files, not just the libraries, to be skipped during the
  dependency check.

 If I understand you then you are doing say for example instead of
 libfoo.rpm you have built libfoo from tarball... The only thing I've
 done that worked in this area is editing the spec file and changing the
 Requires line to reflect what I had.  One place I'd look is to google
 for using rpm's on slackware... this might help.

 James

Hmm I'm not aware that such an app is available. Butit should be possible:

a) write a perlscript that urpmf all librarys and checks if the rpm that 
contains it is installed = spit out the libraries, that are not installed by 
rpm and build a dummy rpm that provides all this libs, this could be done 
later by a cronjob.

b) try to use no tar.gz and build an rpm with f.i. checkinstall, so your 
rpm-database is up to date every time

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Re: [expert] Contribs

2003-03-01 Thread et
On Saturday 01 March 2003 03:41 am, Dale Huckeby wrote:
 On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Greg Meyer wrote:
  On Friday 28 February 2003 12:48 pm, Ron Stodden wrote:
  !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN
  html
  head
 
  html crap deleted . . .
 
  href=http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/;http://members.optusnet.com
 .au /ronst//a Empty warhead found in White House
  /pre
  /body
  /html
 
  Except none of us can see them.  Ron, it is plain and simply really
  annoying and only seems to be useful for you.  The list rules plainly ask
  for posts to be made in plain text only, yet you continue to selfishly
  insist that your way is better.  Well no one else posts in html, so maybe
  you could give in a little and turn it off only when you post to this
  list.

   If the list rules plainly say no html, and one selfish doofus insists on
 doing it anyway, perhaps he should be removed.

 Dale Huckeby
ahhh not to go so far as to remove him, best to just ignore him
remove and he resubs and never learns what the real reason he joined the list 
to learn, what ever it was. ignore (local filter) him (or html) and he does 
not bother me any more

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Re: [expert] voice messaging

2003-03-01 Thread Rolf Pedersen
mycal62 wrote:
are there any voice messenger clients for linux like msn messenger?

or any tools to talk to another pc via the internet?


Voice messaging is in vocp but I have not used it.  It requires 
mgetty-1.30, which has just been added to cooker and will be in 9.1 or 
you could compile it yourself.
http://www.vocpsystem.com/

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[expert] sametime in lotus notes

2003-03-01 Thread Tom
 I was able to observe sametime operating in Lotus notes. It looks like an 
instant messager clone. Is there a Linux equivalent which can correctly 
communicate with sametime? And what needs to be done to get it working?

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Re: [expert] Re: Fixing urpmi - correcting botched sources in 9.0

2003-03-01 Thread Rolf Pedersen
Praedor Atrebates wrote:
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On Friday 28 February 2003 03:38 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote:

I have had much problems with urpmi on my desktop system.  Virtually any
package name or fragment I pass through urpmi fails.  My latest failure was
in trying to install tnef:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] praedor]# urpmi tnef
package perl-Convert-TNEF-0.17-2mdk.noarch is not found.
unable to get source packages, aborting
I get this same result regardless of package.  I do NOT want internet
sources, I have a pathetic 56k modem connection.  I want to install these
packages from the distro 9.0 cd's.  How do I update the software manager so
that this will work properly?


By the way, I know of the website that autogenerates a urpmi command for 
updating but...I do NOT want any internet sources and it appears that the 
website for this only uses internet-based urpmi sources.  

Thanks for any aid,

praedor
If you are having problems with the rpm database, the first thing to try 
 is delete any /var/lib/rpm/__db.00* files and rpm --rebuilddb.  After 
that, the errata might be in order, 
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/errata.php3#urpmi, or this is the same 
problem where you solved it before:

I did it with urpmi.addmedia -h /mnt/cdrom with my 9.0 CD1 in the 
drive.  It  appears fixed now.

If your CD sources are already defined in mcc  Software Management  
Software Sources Manager, you could update them to see if the correct 
records get written.  Make sure they are enabled with a check (this 
should be done at first to be sure this is not causing your problem). 
All the hdlists are on CD1, so put CD1 in the reader and select Update.

Pascal has a bare-metal procedure here: 
http://hermes.afaa.asso.fr/users/pascal/linux/rpm-rebuilddb

What I have done that is similar is to add the sources from an hd 
install that were not added by the installer.  There might be sufficient 
parallelism that it works for you:

If you can't get the defined sources to work any other way, remove and 
re-add them.  You could retrieve the name of each source from Sources 
Manager or, what worked for me:

# urpmi.update
the entry to update is missing
(one of Installation CD 1 (x86) (disk1), Installation CD 2 (x86) 
(disk2), International CD (x86) (disk3)

So the name of the CD1 source would be Installation CD 1 (x86) (disk1), 
the path would be /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS, the hdlist path would be 
../base/hdlist1.cz

Add the source with CD1 in the reader.  The other sources, I believe, 
will need to be added with CD1 read as the hdlists are on it.  So, give 
name as Installation CD 2 (x86) (disk2, the path as 
/mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS2, hdlist as ../base/hdlist2.cz

The last source would be International CD (x86) (disk3), path is 
/mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS3, hdlist is ../base/hdlist3.cz

Your path to the reader might be different and, as I said, I have only 
added sources from hd as I did an hd install.  The media name is 
probably arbitrary but there was something in my system that retained 
the official name, even though the source was not defined, so I used 
that.  Considering all the trouble you are having with this, is it 
possible there is a fault in your CDs or hardware, cable, etc?

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Re: [expert] DMA on new Maxtor hard drive

2003-03-01 Thread Azrael
On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 15:55, tarvid wrote:
 On Friday 28 February 2003 05:04 pm, Azrael wrote:
  I just installed a brand new 120GB Maxtor hard drive.
  Formatted ext3 etc.
  When I boot up I get a message about DMA timeout on the new partition,
  and also when coping files to the new partition.. it feels as if it is
  rather sluggish (could be subconscious).
 that's not good
 
 perhaps limiting the udma level will help
 
 what is the mobo?
 
 jim tarvid

mobo KT7A-raid with highpoint controller.
Turns out the DMA works fine on the normal IDE .. and so I moved it
there. But apparently there is an incompatability on the highpoint
controller... easy solution.. don't use it there.. 
thanks for the answer though
 
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[expert] Clean-up

2003-03-01 Thread Tom
I had a HD crash and the normal recovery at boot up fixed 99% of the mess. 
However, I have a directory which resist efforts to delete it. Have a 
look-see at this ls:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mine]$ ls -al BAD-DIR
total 116
drwxrwxrwx4 tko  tko  4096 Mar  1 12:24 ./
drwxr-xr-x7 tko  tko  4096 Mar  1 12:30 ../
drwsrwx--x2 2182807566 4606451 49152 Jan 11  1970 sphere2.bmp/
drwsrwS--t2 ftp  20459   49152 Jan 11  1970 sphere3.bmp/
-wxr-t1 2182283334 4882979 49152 Feb 23  1970 sphere3.br5*

I recovered all the necessary files and would like to blow away this 
directory. Any suggestions on how to get rid of the bad directory?

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Re: [expert] Question on KDE

2003-03-01 Thread diego
Sorry, no guru here so no idea too :-(( 

But... when I want to open a full kde2 environment through command I do:
1) kwin  (window manager)
2) kdeinit  (some basic kde stuff)
3) kicker  (panel bar)
4) kdesktop  (obvious)

Might be this solves about missing render...



El sáb, 01-03-2003 a las 05:34, James Sparenberg escribió:
 All,
 
I've suddenly lost kde It won't start anything and the only error
 I get is a core dump.   It happened when I upgraded to the latest 3.1
 kdm kcontrol nothing will start. But if I switch (and I did ) to gdm
 ...everything but kde runs.  So I removed all of kde... all of qt all
 the dot files ... and still the same thing.  No errors just a core
 dump.  
 
 Next I tried to start it from a command line (kcontrol) I get  possible
 errors.  Well they are errors just that it's possible they may indicate
 something.  
 
 Xlib:  extension RENDER missing on display :0.0.
 DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-12856' to 'kcontrol'
 ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error!
 
 Now the Xlib error should indicate that I don't have font aliasing
 working ok... it works elsewhere but for the moment ok and
 shouldn't stop it.  The second one seems to indicate that DCOP doesn't
 work... When I carefully and completely removed kde all libs and qt that
 should have been gone.  Then a new install of kdebase should have
 restored it 
 
 The question is ... any ideas where else to look?  I'm not good at core
 dumps so I don't get much out of it
 
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Re: [expert] DMA on new Maxtor hard drive

2003-03-01 Thread diego
If I'm right HighPoint HPT372 is only supported through a kernel patch
you should download from their homepage. If it is a HPT370 one, then
kernel 2.4.20 and above support dma in it (not sure about 2.4.19).

Good Luck!


El sáb, 01-03-2003 a las 18:27, Azrael escribió:
 On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 15:55, tarvid wrote:
  On Friday 28 February 2003 05:04 pm, Azrael wrote:
   I just installed a brand new 120GB Maxtor hard drive.
   Formatted ext3 etc.
   When I boot up I get a message about DMA timeout on the new partition,
   and also when coping files to the new partition.. it feels as if it is
   rather sluggish (could be subconscious).
  that's not good
  
  perhaps limiting the udma level will help
  
  what is the mobo?
  
  jim tarvid
 
 mobo KT7A-raid with highpoint controller.
 Turns out the DMA works fine on the normal IDE .. and so I moved it
 there. But apparently there is an incompatability on the highpoint
 controller... easy solution.. don't use it there.. 
 thanks for the answer though
  
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Re: [expert] voice messaging

2003-03-01 Thread diego
I had gnomeeting working against a netmeeting (no webcam on my side and
a cheap one on the Windows side). It was real damn sluggish but I would
swear it was connection (we were on different operators) because similar
delays/jitters in TCP packets were similar with ftp.

I got video and sound working, but no luck with typewriting chat,
drawing or shared desktop, but didn't need it.

The environment was:
Mandrake 8.2 with gnomeeting 0.85-1 adsl 256Kbs
Windows 2000 cable connection 128Kbs






El sáb, 01-03-2003 a las 16:35, tarvid escribió:
 On Friday 28 February 2003 05:28 am, mycal62 wrote:
  are there any voice messenger clients for linux like msn messenger?
 
  or any tools to talk to another pc via the internet?
 Look under Networking, Instant Messaging in the menu.
 
 one of my guys had gnomeeting talking to MS NetMeeting.
 
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Re: [expert] DMA on new Maxtor hard drive

2003-03-01 Thread Azrael
DMA works on my other 2 hard drives on the highpoint controller, without
patching or any fuss. Just the new maxtor drive played up.

But I put it onto a normal IDE (non highpoint) channel, and works fine.
So my problem is gone.

On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 17:42, diego wrote:
 If I'm right HighPoint HPT372 is only supported through a kernel patch
 you should download from their homepage. If it is a HPT370 one, then
 kernel 2.4.20 and above support dma in it (not sure about 2.4.19).
 
 Good Luck!
 
 
 El sáb, 01-03-2003 a las 18:27, Azrael escribió:
  On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 15:55, tarvid wrote:
   On Friday 28 February 2003 05:04 pm, Azrael wrote:
I just installed a brand new 120GB Maxtor hard drive.
Formatted ext3 etc.
When I boot up I get a message about DMA timeout on the new partition,
and also when coping files to the new partition.. it feels as if it is
rather sluggish (could be subconscious).
   that's not good
   
   perhaps limiting the udma level will help
   
   what is the mobo?
   
   jim tarvid
  
  mobo KT7A-raid with highpoint controller.
  Turns out the DMA works fine on the normal IDE .. and so I moved it
  there. But apparently there is an incompatability on the highpoint
  controller... easy solution.. don't use it there.. 
  thanks for the answer though
   
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Re: [expert] Question on KDE

2003-03-01 Thread Damian Gatabria
On Saturday 01 de March 2003 01:34, James Sparenberg wrote:
 All,

I've suddenly lost kde It won't start anything and the only error
 I get is a core dump.   It happened when I upgraded to the latest 3.1
 kdm kcontrol nothing will start. But if I switch (and I did ) to gdm
 ...everything but kde runs.  So I removed all of kde... all of qt all
 the dot files ... and still the same thing.  No errors just a core
 dump.

 Next I tried to start it from a command line (kcontrol) I get  possible
 errors.  Well they are errors just that it's possible they may indicate
 something.

 Xlib:  extension RENDER missing on display :0.0.
 DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-12856' to 'kcontrol'
 ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error!

 Now the Xlib error should indicate that I don't have font aliasing
 working ok... it works elsewhere but for the moment ok and
 shouldn't stop it.  The second one seems to indicate that DCOP doesn't
 work... When I carefully and completely removed kde all libs and qt that
 should have been gone.  Then a new install of kdebase should have
 restored it

 The question is ... any ideas where else to look?  I'm not good at core
 dumps so I don't get much out of it

 James

Try wiping out all temp directories. A bad/old socket file may
be confusing DCOP.

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Re: [expert] DMA on new Maxtor hard drive

2003-03-01 Thread Rolf Pedersen
diego wrote:
If I'm right HighPoint HPT372 is only supported through a kernel patch
you should download from their homepage. If it is a HPT370 one, then
kernel 2.4.20 and above support dma in it (not sure about 2.4.19).
Good Luck!


Alan Cox's ide patches from 2.4.20-ac1 were merged in the cooker kernel 
about 9.1 beta3.  As a consequence, I am able to install to a disk on my 
hpt372 with the newer Mandrake kernels.  I cannot speak about raid arrays.

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Re: [expert] Clean-up

2003-03-01 Thread Philip Webb
030301 Tom wrote:
 Have a look-see at this ls:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mine]$ ls -al BAD-DIR
   total 116
   drwxrwxrwx4 tkotko  4096 Mar  1 12:24 ./
   drwxr-xr-x7 tkotko  4096 Mar  1 12:30 ../
   drwsrwx--x2 2182807566 4606451 49152 Jan 11  1970 sphere2.bmp/
   drwsrwS--t2 ftp20459   49152 Jan 11  1970 sphere3.bmp/
   -wxr-t1 2182283334 4882979 49152 Feb 23  1970 sphere3.br5*
 I recovered all the files and would like to blow away this directory.

faced with this, i would try:

(1) as root (ie after 'su')  after 'cd BAD-DIR' (not another directory),
'chown -R tko:tko *'  'chmod -R 777 *'; then
(2) 'pwd' 'ls -l *' (ie check you are in directory BAD-DIR) 'rm -rf *';
(3) assuming 'sphere3.br5*' is still there, which it probably wb,
'rm sphere3.br5\*', which hopefully should delete it;
(4) 'cd ..' 'rd BAD-DIR'.

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Re: HTML (was Re: [expert] Contribs)

2003-03-01 Thread Philip Webb
030228 Luca Olivetti wrote:
 Philip Webb wrote:
 my home-made   c 99 %  effective spam filter via  .procmailrc  contains:
   # Try to filter Kleze
   :0
   * ^Content-Type:.*html
   kleze
   :0
   * ^Content-Type: multipart
   kleze
 Except the second rule would catch:
 a) all messages on this list

they have previously been diverted by

  # Filter Mandrake expert
  :0
  * ^Subject:.*expert
  expert

 b) pgp/mime signed messages

i've never received one, but will amend  .procmailrc  when i do.

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Re: [expert] DMA on new Maxtor hard drive

2003-03-01 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 01 Mar 2003 5:27 pm, Azrael wrote:
 On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 15:55, tarvid wrote:
  On Friday 28 February 2003 05:04 pm, Azrael wrote:
   I just installed a brand new 120GB Maxtor hard drive.
   Formatted ext3 etc.
   When I boot up I get a message about DMA timeout on the new partition,
   and also when coping files to the new partition.. it feels as if it is
   rather sluggish (could be subconscious).
 
  that's not good
 
  perhaps limiting the udma level will help
 
  what is the mobo?
 
  jim tarvid

 mobo KT7A-raid with highpoint controller.
 Turns out the DMA works fine on the normal IDE .. and so I moved it
 there. But apparently there is an incompatability on the highpoint
 controller... easy solution.. don't use it there..
 thanks for the answer though

Azreal I don't know if this is relevant, but I had a Soyo board with a 
Highpoint controller.  There was a fault in the bios, and a patch was made 
available.  I think you should google for Highpoint and see if there is a 
bios patch for your board.  It cured my problems, anyway.

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Re: [expert] Contribs

2003-03-01 Thread Jim C
On Friday 28 February 2003 11:06 am, Ron Stodden wrote:
...
Ron, It's not a matter of whether or not the mail program will read html, it's 
that the folks on *this* list DON'T want to read html.
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Re: [expert] Question on KDE

2003-03-01 Thread James Sparenberg


On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 10:00, Damian Gatabria wrote:
 On Saturday 01 de March 2003 01:34, James Sparenberg wrote:
  All,
 
 I've suddenly lost kde It won't start anything and the only error
  I get is a core dump.   It happened when I upgraded to the latest 3.1
  kdm kcontrol nothing will start. But if I switch (and I did ) to gdm
  ...everything but kde runs.  So I removed all of kde... all of qt all
  the dot files ... and still the same thing.  No errors just a core
  dump.
 
  Next I tried to start it from a command line (kcontrol) I get  possible
  errors.  Well they are errors just that it's possible they may indicate
  something.
 
  Xlib:  extension RENDER missing on display :0.0.
  DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-12856' to 'kcontrol'
  ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error!
 
  Now the Xlib error should indicate that I don't have font aliasing
  working ok... it works elsewhere but for the moment ok and
  shouldn't stop it.  The second one seems to indicate that DCOP doesn't
  work... When I carefully and completely removed kde all libs and qt that
  should have been gone.  Then a new install of kdebase should have
  restored it
 
  The question is ... any ideas where else to look?  I'm not good at core
  dumps so I don't get much out of it
 
  James
 
 Try wiping out all temp directories. A bad/old socket file may
 be confusing DCOP.

Let me try and see what happens.


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[expert] ATI Radeon drivers

2003-03-01 Thread John Haywood
I'm getting a little confused here, as far as I can see I have a couple of 
possibilities for getting an accellerated driver for XFree on MDK 9, and I'm 
wondering whether there is a point to pursuing one of these, or if it might 
be a feature of 9.1:

I tried the ATI driver, which has its own XFreeConfig-4 generator, and 
generates a completely useless file.

 It looks like it tries to use a driver called fglrx for 3D acceleration, 
but then binds itself to 2 (in my case) PCI card addresses 1:0:0 and 
1:0:1

 I attempted to munge this with the Mandrake stock config file which I used 
for my previous video card, and after commenting out the ATI-generated stuff, 
inserting the Driver fglrx into the Device section and leaving the PCI, 
stuff out, instead using AGPMode true, I get X to boot, but it seems 
woefully slow, (about 200 - 220 in glxgears).

I see also that there are gatos drivers which might cover this card, but yet 
again, I'm at a loss as to which way forward here

Just thinking about this, I wonder if the  libGL.so.1.2 is playing nice, and 
does anyone have a clue as to how I determine which/whose version I've got 
installed

... alternatively, of course, if anyone has upgraded to one of these cards 
(rather than a clean install), I'd really like to hear from you as to how you 
achieved all this

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Re: [expert] ATI Radeon drivers

2003-03-01 Thread Joan Tur
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 I tried the ATI driver, which has its own XFreeConfig-4 generator, and
 generates a completely useless file.
You haven't told us what Radeon you have, but the Ati's drivers are for 8500 
to 9700 cards.  The other Radeons are supported by DRI (afaik).

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Re: [expert] RPM help -- finding library in source package

2003-03-01 Thread Kwan Lowe
On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 10:51, Steffen Barszus wrote:

 Hmm I'm not aware that such an app is available. Butit should be possible:
 
 a) write a perlscript that urpmf all librarys and checks if the rpm that 
 contains it is installed = spit out the libraries, that are not installed by 
 rpm and build a dummy rpm that provides all this libs, this could be done 
 later by a cronjob.
 
 b) try to use no tar.gz and build an rpm with f.i. checkinstall, so your 
 rpm-database is up to date every time
 

Thanks for the input. I finally located the file -- the system or user
rpmrc file will allow overriding the package dependency. This is useful
for some platforms, such as Solaris, that may not have all files under
RPM control. Apparently it was available in some versions of RPM,
removed in a later version, then re-added. The RPM Howto does not list
this option in the couple versions that I checked, but RPM 4.0.1 seems
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Re: [expert] ATI Radeon drivers

2003-03-01 Thread Rolf Pedersen
John Haywood wrote:
I'm getting a little confused here, as far as I can see I have a couple of 
possibilities for getting an accellerated driver for XFree on MDK 9, and I'm 
wondering whether there is a point to pursuing one of these, or if it might 
be a feature of 9.1:

I tried the ATI driver, which has its own XFreeConfig-4 generator, and 
generates a completely useless file.

 It looks like it tries to use a driver called fglrx for 3D acceleration, 
but then binds itself to 2 (in my case) PCI card addresses 1:0:0 and 
1:0:1

 I attempted to munge this with the Mandrake stock config file which I used 
for my previous video card, and after commenting out the ATI-generated stuff, 
inserting the Driver fglrx into the Device section and leaving the PCI, 
stuff out, instead using AGPMode true, I get X to boot, but it seems 
woefully slow, (about 200 - 220 in glxgears).

I see also that there are gatos drivers which might cover this card, but yet 
again, I'm at a loss as to which way forward here

Just thinking about this, I wonder if the  libGL.so.1.2 is playing nice, and 
does anyone have a clue as to how I determine which/whose version I've got 
installed

... alternatively, of course, if anyone has upgraded to one of these cards 
(rather than a clean install), I'd really like to hear from you as to how you 
achieved all this

TIA

I don't know what your card is but it sounds like newer than mine 
(7200).  There is documentation about that AGPMode option that says the 
value should be 1, 2, or 4.  Although I don't think it will make much 
difference, you can see that here: 
http://www.xfree86.org/4.3.0/radeon.4.html  You can also find some 
driver enhancement and details at that site wrt your card in 4.3.  What 
I thought I noticed is that there is only, so far, 2d support for the 
newest Radeon (9500?) http://www.xfree86.org/4.3.0/RELNOTES2.html#3  One 
more option might be a 3rd party commercial driver:  http://www.xig.com/

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Re: [expert] OT chatter

2003-03-01 Thread -Glenn-
On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 09:23, Greg Meyer wrote:
 I am seeing more and more OT chatter on threads that have long since strayed 
 from their original subject.  The content of these conversations is many time 
 personal and it would be better if they were taken to a private e-mail 
 conversation instead of continued indefinitely on this list.
 
 I am not trying to dissuade comradery or be a party-pooper, I just think the 
 noise level in my inbox is getting too high and it is making it difficult to 
 manage and I think a few others would agree.  I simply politely ask you to 
 think about whether the message you are about to send is worthy of being 
 posted for the list, or really should be sent to the private e-mail of the 
 person you are conversing with.

Hear, hear. I've only subscribed to this group for 3 days  already my
mail box has quintupled from what it normally is.

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Re: [expert] iptables to block spam

2003-03-01 Thread tarvid
On Saturday 01 March 2003 10:09 pm, Scott St. John wrote:
 Until I can migrate my clients over to Postfix I have been using the
 access lists in Sendmail to block certain repeat spammers.  I am wondering
 if I could just use iptables to block them and take the load off Sendmail?

 My question would be 1)Is that practical 2)Is the proper way to block an
 entire network this:

 iptables -A INPUT -s 209.8.161.0/24 -j DROP

 I added this, however traffic from this network is still reaching my mail
 server.  I want to block EVERYTHING from that network as they are sending
 porn mail to my clients.

 Thanks,

 -Scott

I do this at the border gateway for bulk mailers that present a heavy load to 
my postfix mail server.

I use spamcop and a local RBL to catch some more.

I also use RAV ($) which does a pretty good job at viruses and spam at the 
back end.

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Re: [expert] Contribs

2003-03-01 Thread David E. Fox
Bottom line is tho, the Welcome to the [Mandrake} mailing list 
 email that automatically is sent to each new subscriber specifically 

And then the mailing list admins add a bunch of MIME gibberish at the
end of *every* message. It's not HTML, but it's about as bad. And as
far as I know Mandrake is the only people who do it. What's wrong with
adding just plain text footers to the end of the message, like many
other mailing lists do? 

Encouraging people to post in plain text is a good thing, so why do we
need to be reminded by MIME encapsulations telling us the message is
in plain text? In elm, every message from Mandrake expert/newbie is
flagged as MIME. It used to drive elm bonkers, but more recently that
is not an issue.

 =_1046448746-10490-2486
 Content-Type: text/plain; name=message.footer
 Content-Disposition: inline; filename=message.footer
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

That's four lines on every message that serve no purpose. Just add the
footer lines with a '--' separator.



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[expert] Problems with cdrecord and scsi-ide

2003-03-01 Thread Mark
Hi Everyone,

I am having problems with what looks like scsi emu probs,  I am using
mandrake 9 and a Duron 1.3g ..  the problem is I have a LG 48x16x48 cdr
drive no matter what i try I can not burn quicker than 8x  with out 
having problem like

./cdrecord: Input/output error. send opc: scsi sendcmd: no error
CDB:  54 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
Sense Bytes: 70 00 06 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 29 00 00 00
Sense Key: 0x6 Unit Attention, Segment 0
Sense Code: 0x29 Qual 0x00 (power on, reset, or bus device reset
occurred) Fru 0x0
Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) 
cmd finished after 60.041s timeout 60s
./cdrecord: OPC failed.
Writing  time:   65.709s
BURN-Free was never needed.
./cdrecord: fifo had 64 puts and 0 gets.
./cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 0 times full, min fill was 100%.

O.k. I have pulled down the latest cdrecord,compiled it, but does not
look like the problem..  since it does work at 8x..   had a play with
hdparm, switching off and on DMA, but it does not seem to make much
difference...any ideas?

Cheers
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Re: [expert] Problems with cdrecord and scsi-ide

2003-03-01 Thread Greg Meyer
On Saturday 01 March 2003 11:43 pm, Mark wrote:

 I am having problems with what looks like scsi emu probs,  I am using
 mandrake 9 and a Duron 1.3g ..  the problem is I have a LG 48x16x48 cdr
 drive no matter what i try I can not burn quicker than 8x  with out
 having problem like



Mandrake is turning dma off by default on optical drives.  have a look at this 
section of /etc/rc.sysinit

# Turn off DMA on CD-ROMs. It more often than not causes problems.
if [ -x /sbin/hdparm -a -e /proc/ide ]; then
  for N in `grep -v ide-disk /proc/ide/*/*/driver 2/dev/null | awk -F / '{ 
print $5 }'`; do
   hdparm -q -d0 /dev/$N /dev/null 21
  done
fi


Now, the next section is really interesting because it tells you how to turn 
it back on.


# Turn on harddisk optimization
# There is only one file /etc/sysconfig/harddisks for all disks
# after installing the hdparm-RPM. If you need different hdparm parameters
# for each of your disks, copy /etc/sysconfig/harddisks to
# /etc/sysconfig/harddiskhda (hdb, hdc...) and modify it.
# Each disk which has no special parameters will use the defaults.
# Each non-disk which has no special parameters will be ignored.


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[expert] Screensaver woes

2003-03-01 Thread Ronald J. Hall
Okay, I tried this on the newbie list and got little help so:

I have a stock install of Mandrake v9.0 Powerpack and I upgraded the Nvidia 
drivers to the 4191 release. I've got 3D acceleration in games and apps - 
with the exception of screensavers. None of the 3D screensavers work now. I'm 
sure that I've broken some link or the other, but after a 2 hour search on 
Google for different wordings covering the same subject, I thought I'd try 
here. Anyone else upgrade 9.0 to the the 4191 drivers and lose and *fix* 
their screensavers?

Thanks in advance.

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[expert] UT2003 help?

2003-03-01 Thread Ronald J. Hall
Anyone else having problems with this game under v9.0? I can play it just -so- 
long then, always...it segfaults out. Whats puzzling is that this game, 
running under 9.0 on my 2 sons computers runs for hours flawlessly. We all 
use Nvidia Geforce cards. One is running the 4191 drivers, 2 are using the 
3123 drivers. 

Here is the error message:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] darklord]$ ut2003
Xlib:  extension XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD missing on display :0.0.

Backtrace:
[ 1]  /lib/i686/libpthread.so.0 [0x40d9ae55]
Signal: SIGSEGV [segmentation fault]
Aborting.

I've applied all 4 patches that I could find to update UT2003 (this is the 
full retail game but it does it with the demo as well). 

Thanks.

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[expert] Remote Linux printer problems:

2003-03-01 Thread Ronald J. Hall

Okay, with the 9.0 Powerpack, I setup 2 comps on my 3 comp lan to use my one 
and only Epson C62 printer on my main comp. Using CUPS on the 2 comps worked 
just fine. I could print with no problems.

I've not a clue as to what I've done but now, I get this message when I 
attempt to print from the remote comps:

An error occured while retrieving the printer list:
client-error-not-found

I had changed nothing, AFAIK. The printer still works fine from my main 
computer.

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Re: [expert] iptables to block spam

2003-03-01 Thread Dave Laird
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Good evening, 

On Saturday 01 March 2003 07:09 pm, Scott St. John wrote:

 My question would be 1)Is that practical 2)Is the proper way to block an
 entire network this:

 iptables -A INPUT -s 209.8.161.0/24 -j DROP

 I added this, however traffic from this network is still reaching my mail
 server.  I want to block EVERYTHING from that network as they are sending
 porn mail to my clients.

iptables -A INPUT -s 209.82.110.17/16 -j DROP will work to drop *everything*
from 209.82.110.x, regardless of the the fourth digits in the network
address. Unless I've gotten it backwards again (it's past my bedtime) 24 only
drops the 0 of your address, which might possibly be the gateway, depending
upon how they have configured their system. 

I use the firewall to block undesirable IP's as needed, and it has proven,
time and again, to substantially reduce my spam loads. Also, if you want more
targets, go to http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space  and look
up the IP blocks assigned to the primary sources of most pornographic spam.
Then block them by country. You'd be surprised at how spam levels will drop. 

Dave
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Re: [expert] iptables to block spam

2003-03-01 Thread .


209.8.161.0/24 will get 209.8.161.0 - 209.8.161.255. /16 will get 
209.8.0.0 - 209.8.255.255

Is iptables running on your firewall, with the mail server behind it, or 
on your mail server?  If the former, you might need to add this on the 
FORWARD chain, not INPUT.

Keep in mind that you're blocking all services with that statement.  add 
-p tcp --dport 25 to just block smtp.

Dave Laird wrote:
Good evening, 

On Saturday 01 March 2003 07:09 pm, Scott St. John wrote:


My question would be 1)Is that practical 2)Is the proper way to block an
entire network this:
iptables -A INPUT -s 209.8.161.0/24 -j DROP

I added this, however traffic from this network is still reaching my mail
server.  I want to block EVERYTHING from that network as they are sending
porn mail to my clients.


iptables -A INPUT -s 209.82.110.17/16 -j DROP will work to drop *everything*
from 209.82.110.x, regardless of the the fourth digits in the network
address. Unless I've gotten it backwards again (it's past my bedtime) 24 only
drops the 0 of your address, which might possibly be the gateway, depending
upon how they have configured their system. 

I use the firewall to block undesirable IP's as needed, and it has proven,
time and again, to substantially reduce my spam loads. Also, if you want more
targets, go to http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space  and look
up the IP blocks assigned to the primary sources of most pornographic spam.
Then block them by country. You'd be surprised at how spam levels will drop. 

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Re: [expert] iptables to block spam

2003-03-01 Thread Dave Laird
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Good evening...

On Saturday 01 March 2003 10:48 pm, . wrote:

 209.8.161.0/24 will get 209.8.161.0 - 209.8.161.255. /16 will get
 209.8.0.0 - 209.8.255.255

 Is iptables running on your firewall, with the mail server behind it, or
 on your mail server?  If the former, you might need to add this on the
 FORWARD chain, not INPUT.

It figures I would get it backwards by typing without double checking.
chagrinned look The firewall is on the mail server, hence I didn't mention
the FORWARD statement, however, that's a good point, too. Thanks. Now I'm
going to bed. sigh 

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