Re: [Future] [triade@zeelandnet.nl: Re: [expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions]
On Tuesday 14 January 2003 01:00, you wrote: H.J.Bathoorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] What happened was that lilo installation couldn't be stopped/skipped ...well no big deal so I installed it in the mbr as I usually do. On boot I found all the old entries still there next to the new one. But they all (the mdk entries) pointed to the same / partition(in my case hdd1) instead of the ones they originally pointed to. Thus rendering 9.0 unbootable. So I booted up old 9.0 using a boot floppy added 9.1 to lilo.conf, pointing it to it's proper partition and copied the needed initrd and vmlinuz to /boot and everything's fine. can you tell me more about what you did? (maybe i'm missing your original mail, i just had this reply) thanks! On it's way, offlist! Good Luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [Future] [triade@zeelandnet.nl: Re: [expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions]
On Tuesday 14 January 2003 12:25, you wrote: H.J.Bathoorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First there's the original lilo.conf here with all the entries. The second is what it looked like after upgrading the 9.0 on /dev/hdd1. Note that there's no entry for 2.4.21-pre2.1mdk there. Leaving only the 'freeduc' and 'linux-NOOD' (nood=Dutch for rescue) entry bootable. On reboot (still defaulting to win4lin) naturally gives a nice mess=:o( i really must miss something. isn't /boot/vmlinuz a symlink to vmlinuz-2.4.21-pre2.1mdk? and /boot/initrd.img a symlink to initrd-2.4.21-pre2.1mdk.img? Just checked: They are indeed symlinked that way. Meaning I assumed too quickly: nothing's really wrong there except that leaving the default as it is (to win4lin in my case) makes it accident prone. I don't understand why the win4lin entry has changed it's init.rd from 2.4.19-16 to 2.4.18-6 though. Changing default to linux on reboot might be better. HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions
Mark Weaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 12 January 2003 02:54 pm, Charles A Edwards scribbled incoherently: On 11 Jan 2003 14:03:20 -0500 Ric Tibbetts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not meaning to sound like a smart a** here. But the best, most reliableunerase system I've found, that is fully transportable across all platforms, is a good backup system. There's just no making up for it. Speaking as myself and not for Mark, the problem with any back-up system is the same as the one which caused the data to be erased in the first place. That is the a** sitting in front of the keyboard. Charles OoooYA ! I can relate to that. ;) many were the times the worst thing any of my Linux systems suffered from was a horrid case of PBCK errors running rampant on the system. ( PBCK=Problem Between Chair and Keyboard : for any that didn't already know what that meant. ) - -- Mark Painfully aware of it! I just went through a ton of pain over the week-end recovering a server ... lol Thankfully, it's Monday morning, and I'm back to work. I need the rest! And... Just for the record, the bits that were broken on that particular server, were bits that I don't generally back up. (ouch!). Had to rebuild the area from memory... And my memory just ain't what it used to be! Ric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James Sparenberg wrote on Sat, Jan 11, 2003 at 07:56:42PM -0800 : It should be in cooker ... grab this one and you should be able to rebuild/build rpms... rpm-rebuilder-0.7-1mdk is the file from 9.0 and yes... if forgot the er before.. rpm-rebuilder is a package that will go through the defined lists of SRPMS and rebuild _ALL_ of them including installing all *-devel packages that are listed as Build Requirements. Probably not what you want. urpmi rpm-build -or- urpmi rpmbuilder Blue skies... Todd - -- Never take no as an answer from someone who's not authorized to say yes. --Ben Reser on Cooker ML Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.1-0.1mdk Kernel 2.4.20-2mdk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Iyvxlp7v05cW2woRAnasAKC9sF/vsEa5whR1KiBgq0op0MKyegCfVabi bZzysrTjl37dYGbpD/+ZVrg= =C2ZE -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Praedor Tempus Atrebates wrote on Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 11:15:35AM -0500 : [...] I've been using 9.1 since cooker unfroze shortly after 9.0's release. It's been solid all along ... on ReiserFS. From what I understand 9.1b1 (due to the 2.4.21 kernel) lacks support for XFS What's up with this? Anyone know why XFS support is lacking? Is it a technical or political decision? My system is 100% XFS so I could really Technical. Scan the Cooker archives in the past two months and you'll see some of the discussion going on about it. stand to know - this prevents me from even considering upgrading kernels. Upgrade kernels are going to take things like this into consideration. Blue skies... Todd - -- | MandrakeSoft USA | Sometimes you get what you want. | | http://www.mandrakesoft.com | Sometimes you get experience.| | http://www.mandrakelinux.com |--unknown origin | Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.1-0.1mdk Kernel 2.4.20-2mdk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+IyxBlp7v05cW2woRArq0AKC0Vwhuy9wpYeb4Ckbp9TP7zMou2ACgv0yC q5Y3ZvY70W5yy0shSJNWs8I= =XPOm -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions
Todd Lyons wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James Sparenberg wrote on Sat, Jan 11, 2003 at 07:56:42PM -0800 : It should be in cooker ... grab this one and you should be able to rebuild/build rpms... rpm-rebuilder-0.7-1mdk is the file from 9.0 and yes... if forgot the er before.. rpm-rebuilder is a package that will go through the defined lists of SRPMS and rebuild _ALL_ of them including installing all *-devel packages that are listed as Build Requirements. Probably not what you want. urpmi rpm-build -or- urpmi rpmbuilder Blue skies... Todd I'll tell ya...this just ain't happenin. test installed both those packages and got a few dependency issues. So, I grabbed the packages it was asking for and the more packages I grabbed the more it asked for. Before too long the list of two grew to over 10, and I know from past experience that cramming the gcc, gcc-cpp, libsdc++ packages in there is definately gonna end up breaking a lot of stuff making this system unusable. Right now, the only thing I can't do with this system is rebuild rpms. I think I'll just wait till the next beta comes out. If I absolutely have to rebuild a src package I'll just do it on my 9.0 system. -- Mark --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.0 ICQ# 27816299 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions
On Sunday January 12 2003 08:48 am, Azrael wrote: I don't have the space to run 9.1b1 as well as 9. I don't need an incredibly stable os for daily use.. heck.. so is it possible to upgrade 9.0 to 9.1b1 Or do I need a clean install. If I do a clean install, any problems keeping my current /home partition? 9.1 has much newer glibc and gcc, with everything rebuilt for them. Since your 9.0 install probly has much more software than the single 9.1b1 CD contains, you'd almost certainly end up with a sh!+load of broken stuff, maybe the whole system. If you want to move to 9.1, do a fresh install. IMO keeping /home completely intact is often a problem too. I'd backup /home, do a complete fresh install, then cautiously move some stuff back in. Usually moving in saved mail, newsgroup, stuff like that is no problem. I've been using 9.1 since cooker unfroze shortly after 9.0's release. It's been solid all along ... on ReiserFS. From what I understand 9.1b1 (due to the 2.4.21 kernel) lacks support for XFS For stuff that's not on the 9.1.b1 CD you can use Software Manager, tho urpmi on the CL is easier, to replace things not on the 9.1 CD from cooker mirrors. Also to keep your system in sync with cooker upgrades. There's already been some (eg, XFree) since the beta iso was released. So when b2 is posted, you'll already have or be past it ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions
On Sun, 2003-01-12 at 15:55, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Sunday January 12 2003 08:48 am, Azrael wrote: I don't have the space to run 9.1b1 as well as 9. I don't need an incredibly stable os for daily use.. heck.. so is it possible to upgrade 9.0 to 9.1b1 Or do I need a clean install. If I do a clean install, any problems keeping my current /home partition? 9.1 has much newer glibc and gcc, with everything rebuilt for them. Since your 9.0 install probly has much more software than the single 9.1b1 CD contains, you'd almost certainly end up with a sh!+load of broken stuff, maybe the whole system. If you want to move to 9.1, do a fresh install. IMO keeping /home completely intact is often a problem too. I'd backup /home, do a complete fresh install, then cautiously move some stuff back in. Usually moving in saved mail, newsgroup, stuff like that is no problem. I've been using 9.1 since cooker unfroze shortly after 9.0's release. It's been solid all along ... on ReiserFS. From what I understand 9.1b1 (due to the 2.4.21 kernel) lacks support for XFS For stuff that's not on the 9.1.b1 CD you can use Software Manager, tho urpmi on the CL is easier, to replace things not on the 9.1 CD from cooker mirrors. Also to keep your system in sync with cooker upgrades. There's already been some (eg, XFree) since the beta iso was released. So when b2 is posted, you'll already have or be past it ;) I don't need all that many apps. As long as b1 supports gaim/gnomeicu/evolution/xchat/xine and of course a terminal, then I'll consider it. Hmm.. does it come with xine? I seem to have trouble with xine. I can have 0.9.13 working perfectly, with encrypted dvd's etc.. but can't seem to get 0.9.17 or the 1 beta stuff to work fully... I suppose I should stick with what works... but I kinda get turned on by new things :) Which gets back to why I want to try 9.1b1 ;) If I nuke ~/.gconf* ~/.gnome* will I be ok keeping my home? Anything else I should nuke? -- Azrael (\''/).___..--'''-._ `0_ O ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' .' ((i).-'' ((i).' (((.-' Of all God's creatures there is only one that cannot be made the slave of the lash. That one is the cat. If man could be crossed with a cat it would improve man, but it would deteriorate the cat. ICQ#52944566 Registered Linux User: 269002 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions
Tom Brinkman wrote: ... 9.1 has much newer glibc and gcc, with everything rebuilt for them. Since your 9.0 install probly has much more software than the ... Didn't realize that -- thanks for the heads up. I'll be waiting til it's released. Jack Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 12 January 2003 10:55 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Sunday January 12 2003 08:48 am, Azrael wrote: [...] I've been using 9.1 since cooker unfroze shortly after 9.0's release. It's been solid all along ... on ReiserFS. From what I understand 9.1b1 (due to the 2.4.21 kernel) lacks support for XFS [...] What's up with this? Anyone know why XFS support is lacking? Is it a technical or political decision? My system is 100% XFS so I could really stand to know - this prevents me from even considering upgrading kernels. praedor - -- Conservatives of all times are adventitious liars. - - Friedrich Nietzsche. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+IZSo1i/6R1B/Yh0RAqR1AJ9WX6d4G3IM5MFNmKq15c7NeY7bvQCeNo1X 6JaCyCJeIDqxHSiuB8eRuMY= =qlyv -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions
On Sunday 12 January 2003 14:48, Azrael wrote: I don't have the space to run 9.1b1 as well as 9. I don't need an incredibly stable os for daily use.. heck.. so is it possible to upgrade 9.0 to 9.1b1 Or do I need a clean install. If I do a clean install, any problems keeping my current /home partition? thanks I've just upgraded a 9.0 with 9.1b1 as I had 9.0 installed twice anyway. I've found some hitches but overall everything works fine, even the shared /home and /var partitions with other distribs and versions. The main hitch at the first boot was my geforce video card. The Nvidia drivers weren't there anymore (which was to be expected) so I had to run XFdrake again to mend that. Overall it seems to be working OK. A word of warning though: During install after choosing the groups of packages to update, there's no going back. If you click previous it goes on to install anyway. So choose well (or all) I forgot to select Gnome that's why I wanted to go back:o( Skipping lilo installation apparently isn't possible and the lilo it installs has all the old entries (like win4lin, old-linux, etc.) but they all pointed to the same hd partition:o( So keep a copy of your /boot directory and of /etc/lilo.conf. That way you'll know what the entries looked like and where they were pointing. Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions
Just to make sure: If I do a totally clean install of 9.1b1 without any other OS on the system, is lilo going to have any problems? On Sun, 2003-01-12 at 17:05, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Sunday 12 January 2003 14:48, Azrael wrote: I don't have the space to run 9.1b1 as well as 9. I don't need an incredibly stable os for daily use.. heck.. so is it possible to upgrade 9.0 to 9.1b1 Or do I need a clean install. If I do a clean install, any problems keeping my current /home partition? thanks I've just upgraded a 9.0 with 9.1b1 as I had 9.0 installed twice anyway. I've found some hitches but overall everything works fine, even the shared /home and /var partitions with other distribs and versions. The main hitch at the first boot was my geforce video card. The Nvidia drivers weren't there anymore (which was to be expected) so I had to run XFdrake again to mend that. Overall it seems to be working OK. A word of warning though: During install after choosing the groups of packages to update, there's no going back. If you click previous it goes on to install anyway. So choose well (or all) I forgot to select Gnome that's why I wanted to go back:o( Skipping lilo installation apparently isn't possible and the lilo it installs has all the old entries (like win4lin, old-linux, etc.) but they all pointed to the same hd partition:o( So keep a copy of your /boot directory and of /etc/lilo.conf. That way you'll know what the entries looked like and where they were pointing. Good luck, HarM __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Azrael (\''/).___..--'''-._ `0_ O ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' .' ((i).-'' ((i).' (((.-' Of all God's creatures there is only one that cannot be made the slave of the lash. That one is the cat. If man could be crossed with a cat it would improve man, but it would deteriorate the cat. ICQ#52944566 Registered Linux User: 269002 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions
On Sunday 12 January 2003 17:22, Azrael wrote: Just to make sure: If I do a totally clean install of 9.1b1 without any other OS on the system, is lilo going to have any problems? I doubt it, you should be OK. If you don't have any other entries in lilo other than linux and the standard ones everything'll work fine. If you want to keep existing software running do the upgrade. It'll save some configuration (internet, printer and so-on) time too. BTW I don't have xine but Ogle (still there from 8.2) runs fine on 9.1. So I doubt if xine will give any problems on 9.1 Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions
On Sunday January 12 2003 10:09 am, Azrael wrote: I don't need all that many apps. As long as b1 supports gaim/gnomeicu/evolution/xchat/xine and of course a terminal, then I'll consider it. Hmm.. does it come with xine? I seem to have trouble with xine. Everything you've listed except gaim is on the beta CD. Gaim and anything that's not, is available from cooker or cooker plf mirrors. (plf: http://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/linux/plf/cooker/i586/ and there's other plf mirrors). http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/cookerdevel.php3 lists the cooker mirrors. You should read the info on the page, particularly How to contribute to the debugging? (or don't complain when 9.1 final isn't up to your expectations.) Also see http://leon.brooks.fdns.net/Mandrake/bugFAQ.html and http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/cookerfaq.php3 If you don't want to, or aren't subcribed to the cooker ML http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cookerr=1w=2 is a good archive. Basically the beta Cd is a minimal system, RPMS/ only. For RPMS2/ stuff (contribs) you'll need to d/l whatever you want to add. http://www.mandrakeclub.com/tmp/CD1list.txt lists the beta CD contents. I can have 0.9.13 working perfectly, with encrypted dvd's etc.. but can't seem to get 0.9.17 or the 1 beta stuff to work fully... I suppose I should stick with what works... but I kinda get turned on by new things :) Which gets back to why I want to try 9.1b1 ;) If I nuke ~/.gconf* ~/.gnome* will I be ok keeping my home? Anything else I should nuke? You can probly keep a 9.0 /home without problems. I dunno, I always start with a fresh /home as I explained previously. Fresh installs being a good time to clean house and avoid stale old cruft anyway ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions
On Sunday January 12 2003 10:15 am, Praedor Tempus Atrebates wrote: On Sunday 12 January 2003 10:55 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: I've been using 9.1 since cooker unfroze shortly after 9.0's release. It's been solid all along ... on ReiserFS. From what I understand 9.1b1 (due to the 2.4.21 kernel) lacks support for XFS What's up with this? Anyone know why XFS support is lacking? Is it a technical or political decision? My system is 100% XFS so I could really stand to know - this prevents me from even considering upgrading kernels. praedor Don't know. IIUC, the XFS modules are missing from the recent 2.4.21 kernels, not just Mandrakes. Tho I've tried XFS in the past, I've always ended up going back to ReiserFS. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions
On Sun, 2003-01-12 at 06:48, Azrael wrote: I don't have the space to run 9.1b1 as well as 9. I don't need an incredibly stable os for daily use.. heck.. so is it possible to upgrade 9.0 to 9.1b1 Or do I need a clean install. If I do a clean install, any problems keeping my current /home partition? Since 9.1b is as yet incomplete (only one disk) I'd say you'll have more problems than triumphs.. You might consider a cooker upgrade... (would give you 9.1b + more) As for home, if its a seperate partition no sweat keeping it. I've had the same /home since 8.0 on this box. One box has had it since 7.1 so I've a fair amount of history in this area. Just pay attention on the page during install that asks what partitions to format. USUALLY (so far for me) it's always understood not to partition /home/ but remember.. this on is a beta. James thanks On Sun, 2003-01-12 at 14:42, Mark Weaver wrote: James Sparenberg wrote: It should be in cooker ... grab this one and you should be able to rebuild/build rpms... rpm-rebuilder-0.7-1mdk is the file from 9.0 and yes... if forgot the er before.. James thanks James. Things should work good now. :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions
Praedor... don't know if this is right. But gleaning what I can from the cooker list, it seems that xfs is causing some trouble in the new kernel and so is pretty unstable. The idea seems to be get the rest working and then introduce that one. The old case of when 2 targets are moving hold one still, then hold the other one still. James On Sun, 2003-01-12 at 08:15, Praedor Tempus Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 12 January 2003 10:55 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Sunday January 12 2003 08:48 am, Azrael wrote: [...] I've been using 9.1 since cooker unfroze shortly after 9.0's release. It's been solid all along ... on ReiserFS. From what I understand 9.1b1 (due to the 2.4.21 kernel) lacks support for XFS [...] What's up with this? Anyone know why XFS support is lacking? Is it a technical or political decision? My system is 100% XFS so I could really stand to know - this prevents me from even considering upgrading kernels. praedor - -- Conservatives of all times are adventitious liars. - - Friedrich Nietzsche. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+IZSo1i/6R1B/Yh0RAqR1AJ9WX6d4G3IM5MFNmKq15c7NeY7bvQCeNo1X 6JaCyCJeIDqxHSiuB8eRuMY= =qlyv -END PGP SIGNATURE- __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions
Just a curiosity... but since lilo is just about one of the oldest programs in linux. what happened? James On Sun, 2003-01-12 at 11:14, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Sunday 12 January 2003 17:22, Azrael wrote: Just to make sure: If I do a totally clean install of 9.1b1 without any other OS on the system, is lilo going to have any problems? I doubt it, you should be OK. If you don't have any other entries in lilo other than linux and the standard ones everything'll work fine. If you want to keep existing software running do the upgrade. It'll save some configuration (internet, printer and so-on) time too. BTW I don't have xine but Ogle (still there from 8.2) runs fine on 9.1. So I doubt if xine will give any problems on 9.1 Good luck, HarM __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions
On Sunday 12 January 2003 18:40, James Sparenberg wrote: Just a curiosity... but since lilo is just about one of the oldest programs in linux. what happened? What happened was that lilo installation couldn't be stopped/skipped ...well no big deal so I installed it in the mbr as I usually do. On boot I found all the old entries still there next to the new one. But they all (the mdk entries) pointed to the same / partition(in my case hdd1) instead of the ones they originally pointed to. Thus rendering 9.0 unbootable. So I booted up old 9.0 using a boot floppy added 9.1 to lilo.conf, pointing it to it's proper partition and copied the needed initrd and vmlinuz to /boot and everything's fine. Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions
On Sunday 12 January 2003 18:56, Mark Weaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 12 January 2003 12:05 pm, H.J.Bathoorn scribbled incoherently: On Sunday 12 January 2003 14:48, Azrael wrote: I don't have the space to run 9.1b1 as well as 9. I don't need an incredibly stable os for daily use.. heck.. so is it possible to upgrade 9.0 to 9.1b1 Or do I need a clean install. If I do a clean install, any problems keeping my current /home partition? thanks I've just upgraded a 9.0 with 9.1b1 as I had 9.0 installed twice anyway. I've found some hitches but overall everything works fine, even the shared /home and /var partitions with other distribs and versions. The main hitch at the first boot was my geforce video card. The Nvidia drivers weren't there anymore (which was to be expected) so I had to run XFdrake again to mend that. Overall it seems to be working OK. A word of warning though: During install after choosing the groups of packages to update, there's no going back. If you click previous it goes on to install anyway. So choose well (or all) I forgot to select Gnome that's why I wanted to go back:o( Skipping lilo installation apparently isn't possible and the lilo it installs has all the old entries (like win4lin, old-linux, etc.) but they all pointed to the same hd partition:o( So keep a copy of your /boot directory and of /etc/lilo.conf. That way you'll know what the entries looked like and where they were pointing. Good luck, HarM hey Harm! at least you got buttons to click on at that point! :) No buttons showed up on that panel during the intall, which necessitated me starting the install all over and choosing all in order to get it going. The next place I got stuck was shortly after configuring X. I wasn't able to move on no matter what I did. Just took the chance on restarting the system and I was able to boot the system. Most, if not all, of the important things were finished though. And, it didn't want to make a bootdisk so I had to take care of that the old-fashioned way. I'm grateful for that though because now I'll have that squirreled away for a rainy day should the need arise. - -- Mark Was that an upgrade or a fresh install? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions
On Sun, 2003-01-12 at 13:48, Mark Weaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 12 January 2003 01:34 pm, Tom Brinkman scribbled incoherently: On Sunday January 12 2003 10:15 am, Praedor Tempus Atrebates wrote: On Sunday 12 January 2003 10:55 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: I've been using 9.1 since cooker unfroze shortly after 9.0's release. It's been solid all along ... on ReiserFS. From what I understand 9.1b1 (due to the 2.4.21 kernel) lacks support for XFS What's up with this? Anyone know why XFS support is lacking? Is it a technical or political decision? My system is 100% XFS so I could really stand to know - this prevents me from even considering upgrading kernels. praedor Don't know. IIUC, the XFS modules are missing from the recent 2.4.21 kernels, not just Mandrakes. Tho I've tried XFS in the past, I've always ended up going back to ReiserFS. which reminds me...Tom, has there been an unerase recovery tool released for ReiserFS yet. Thats the only thing stopping me at the moment from going back to ReiserFS. I love that file system, but there have been a few times that I've needed to recover something, and if I hadn't been running ext2 I wouldn't have been able to retrieve it from the bad place of no return. - -- Mark Mark; Not meaning to sound like a smart a** here. But the best, most reliable unerase system I've found, that is fully transportable across all platforms, is a good backup system. There's just no making up for it. Ric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions
On Sun, 12 Jan 2003 13:56:09 -0500 Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey Harm! at least you got buttons to click on at that point! :) No buttons showed up on that panel during the intall, which necessitated me starting the install all over and choosing all in order to get it going. I think it important to note that anytime you test a Mandrake beta you are in actuality testing 2 different works in progress. The first is DrakX which is the installation program itself and is responsible for everything up until your system reboots you to your newly installed toy. This includes hardware detection, partitioning, pkg selection, buttons, navigation, etc. etc, etc. The second process is, of course, the OS itself. This early in the beta devel stage varying hardware and varying configs are going to produce an infestation of bugs. This is by desire so that by the time the RCs arrive all that will remain to be corrected are minor irritations. The more people and varied systems that can run and provide feedback, be it through the lists or bugzilla, for the betas the more polished and troublefree the next final will be. BTW if it holds to the 6 mom timeline this will not be until April. That being said I also think that it is very important to note that a beta OS release is not meant to be used as an upgrade for a currently running stable OS. If you have an extra system, a spare hd, or even a gig or 2 of unused space on your current drive then use it for a clean install of the beta. If this does not apply to you and you are determined to use the Beta as an upgrade install. Install it and then use rpmdrake or urpmi to go full cooker and at the very least lurk on the cooker mailing list. Do not try to run a miss-matched mix of pkgs, this invalidates any and all bugs/problems you may/will encounter. Charles The chief cause of problems is solutions. -- Eric Sevareid -- Mandrake Linux 9.1 Kernel- 2.4.21-1mdk -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions
On 11 Jan 2003 14:03:20 -0500 Ric Tibbetts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not meaning to sound like a smart a** here. But the best, most reliableunerase system I've found, that is fully transportable across all platforms, is a good backup system. There's just no making up for it. Speaking as myself and not for Mark, the problem with any back-up system is the same as the one which caused the data to be erased in the first place. That is the a** sitting in front of the keyboard. Charles Mind if I smoke? I don't care if you burst into flames and die! -- Mandrake Linux 9.1 Kernel- 2.4.21-1mdk -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 11 January 2003 10:56 pm, James Sparenberg scribbled incoherently: It should be in cooker ... grab this one and you should be able to rebuild/build rpms... rpm-rebuilder-0.7-1mdk is the file from 9.0 and yes... if forgot the er before.. James James, This here rabbit hole looks like it's a gonna go way deeper then I care to go with the beta 1 release. At first glance it's likely to require a lot of changes with already installed rpm packages. So far the packages I've found on cooker are just different enough to cause dependency issues. Gcc and a few other things don't appear to like the packages I'm attempting to install. I don't need to tell you where all that would end up. :) - -- Mark - --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.0 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Iba0JuZ1geTzHgERAlOpAKDIXiL1gyy0AMab432UggkU7pwjDACg1ct+ wLMHSlFEyYE+kCHjCNuuCU0= =fN3O -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions
On Sunday 12 January 2003 19:49, Charles A Edwards wrote: On Sun, 12 Jan 2003 13:56:09 -0500 Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey Harm! at least you got buttons to click on at that point! :) No buttons showed up on that panel during the intall, which necessitated me starting the install all over and choosing all in order to get it going. I think it important to note that anytime you test a Mandrake beta you are in actuality testing 2 different works in progress. The first is DrakX which is the installation program itself and is responsible for everything up until your system reboots you to your newly installed toy. This includes hardware detection, partitioning, pkg selection, buttons, navigation, etc. etc, etc. The second process is, of course, the OS itself. This early in the beta devel stage varying hardware and varying configs are going to produce an infestation of bugs. This is by desire so that by the time the RCs arrive all that will remain to be corrected are minor irritations. The more people and varied systems that can run and provide feedback, be it through the lists or bugzilla, for the betas the more polished and troublefree the next final will be. BTW if it holds to the 6 mom timeline this will not be until April. That being said I also think that it is very important to note that a beta OS release is not meant to be used as an upgrade for a currently running stable OS. If you have an extra system, a spare hd, or even a gig or 2 of unused space on your current drive then use it for a clean install of the beta. If this does not apply to you and you are determined to use the Beta as an upgrade install. Install it and then use rpmdrake or urpmi to go full cooker and at the very least lurk on the cooker mailing list. Do not try to run a miss-matched mix of pkgs, this invalidates any and all bugs/problems you may/will encounter. Charles I disagree on that one. Upgrading has to be tested (the installation program itself) same as any clean install. Chances are indeed fairly high that problems, arising from package mis-matches could be mistaken for bugs. But that's not a real problem to find out. Whenever I think I found a bug I always try to redo it again to eliminate coincidence. Next I check if it isn't some stupid misconfiguration and only then do I submit a bug-report. Frankly I've never discovered a bug that hadn't allready been reported by somebody else. These double checks take time=:o) On top: Upgrading a working system makes it easier to compare and puts a heavier load on the OS i.e I use it straightaway for everything I did before. Overall the upgraded OS works very well up to now and I can't say I've stumbled over any real bugs yet. My log files are extremely boring at the moment=:o) Tomorrow I'll put a clean install next to it, I've just cleaned up a nice 8G partition for it. We'll see how that compares. Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 12 January 2003 01:34 pm, Tom Brinkman scribbled incoherently: On Sunday January 12 2003 10:15 am, Praedor Tempus Atrebates wrote: On Sunday 12 January 2003 10:55 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: I've been using 9.1 since cooker unfroze shortly after 9.0's release. It's been solid all along ... on ReiserFS. From what I understand 9.1b1 (due to the 2.4.21 kernel) lacks support for XFS What's up with this? Anyone know why XFS support is lacking? Is it a technical or political decision? My system is 100% XFS so I could really stand to know - this prevents me from even considering upgrading kernels. praedor Don't know. IIUC, the XFS modules are missing from the recent 2.4.21 kernels, not just Mandrakes. Tho I've tried XFS in the past, I've always ended up going back to ReiserFS. which reminds me...Tom, has there been an unerase recovery tool released for ReiserFS yet. Thats the only thing stopping me at the moment from going back to ReiserFS. I love that file system, but there have been a few times that I've needed to recover something, and if I hadn't been running ext2 I wouldn't have been able to retrieve it from the bad place of no return. - -- Mark - --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.0 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Ibh9JuZ1geTzHgERAnhAAJ0dZ8ZcZJzygqW+B066k/sqPJwgZgCgpotK XfPGc1iIYBcZHBlK0sNRh30= =036Y -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 12 January 2003 12:05 pm, H.J.Bathoorn scribbled incoherently: On Sunday 12 January 2003 14:48, Azrael wrote: I don't have the space to run 9.1b1 as well as 9. I don't need an incredibly stable os for daily use.. heck.. so is it possible to upgrade 9.0 to 9.1b1 Or do I need a clean install. If I do a clean install, any problems keeping my current /home partition? thanks I've just upgraded a 9.0 with 9.1b1 as I had 9.0 installed twice anyway. I've found some hitches but overall everything works fine, even the shared /home and /var partitions with other distribs and versions. The main hitch at the first boot was my geforce video card. The Nvidia drivers weren't there anymore (which was to be expected) so I had to run XFdrake again to mend that. Overall it seems to be working OK. A word of warning though: During install after choosing the groups of packages to update, there's no going back. If you click previous it goes on to install anyway. So choose well (or all) I forgot to select Gnome that's why I wanted to go back:o( Skipping lilo installation apparently isn't possible and the lilo it installs has all the old entries (like win4lin, old-linux, etc.) but they all pointed to the same hd partition:o( So keep a copy of your /boot directory and of /etc/lilo.conf. That way you'll know what the entries looked like and where they were pointing. Good luck, HarM hey Harm! at least you got buttons to click on at that point! :) No buttons showed up on that panel during the intall, which necessitated me starting the install all over and choosing all in order to get it going. The next place I got stuck was shortly after configuring X. I wasn't able to move on no matter what I did. Just took the chance on restarting the system and I was able to boot the system. Most, if not all, of the important things were finished though. And, it didn't want to make a bootdisk so I had to take care of that the old-fashioned way. I'm grateful for that though because now I'll have that squirreled away for a rainy day should the need arise. - -- Mark - --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.0 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+IbpJJuZ1geTzHgERAvXCAJ9M4U4XBjH63aJ6LkyCutAJBulx4QCeLjhr +Cxt/H4IrFusYw0/IpTZEDg= =VAI3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions
On Mon, 13 Jan 2003 08:58, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Sunday 12 January 2003 18:40, James Sparenberg wrote: Just a curiosity... but since lilo is just about one of the oldest programs in linux. what happened? What happened was that lilo installation couldn't be stopped/skipped ...well no big deal so I installed it in the mbr as I usually do. On boot I found all the old entries still there next to the new one. But they all (the mdk entries) pointed to the same / partition(in my case hdd1) instead of the ones they originally pointed to. Thus rendering 9.0 unbootable. So I booted up old 9.0 using a boot floppy added 9.1 to lilo.conf, pointing it to it's proper partition and copied the needed initrd and vmlinuz to /boot and everything's fine. Good luck, HarM Forgive if my poor old memory is still full of holes. As i installed 8.2 there was an option list to choose which MBR to install lilo. If this still exists then perhaps choosing any drive other than hda would force it out of the way. It may work. Of course a new stanza would still need to be put in the 9.0 lilo entry. Dunno, things may have change so this is not possible, but my 17 year old got his lilo to write to hdb MBR and his box booted to windows like normal as if linux had never installed. -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 12 January 2003 01:40 pm, James Sparenberg scribbled incoherently: Just a curiosity... but since lilo is just about one of the oldest programs in linux. what happened? James Not sure James, but I've noticed the same problem existing in the Lilo install that happens when installing the latest offerings from RedHat as well. Lilo is totally screwed up. I'm using a bootdisk to get to my 9.1 install. - -- Mark - --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.0 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Ibq0JuZ1geTzHgERApZDAJ4+7b7ZD8gZviBvpm9xCQCV2srvwwCfZk4q qZrFSfjufmqzemMKg+It5pc= =YSN8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions
Hi there, a little while ago, I was looking for a way to undelete a file on an ext3 filesystem, but didn't find any... Seems like you know more about this issue, so would you mind sharing some knowledge about this? :-) Thanks, Hans On Sun, 2003-01-12 at 19:48, Mark Weaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 12 January 2003 01:34 pm, Tom Brinkman scribbled incoherently: On Sunday January 12 2003 10:15 am, Praedor Tempus Atrebates wrote: On Sunday 12 January 2003 10:55 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: I've been using 9.1 since cooker unfroze shortly after 9.0's release. It's been solid all along ... on ReiserFS. From what I understand 9.1b1 (due to the 2.4.21 kernel) lacks support for XFS What's up with this? Anyone know why XFS support is lacking? Is it a technical or political decision? My system is 100% XFS so I could really stand to know - this prevents me from even considering upgrading kernels. praedor Don't know. IIUC, the XFS modules are missing from the recent 2.4.21 kernels, not just Mandrakes. Tho I've tried XFS in the past, I've always ended up going back to ReiserFS. which reminds me...Tom, has there been an unerase recovery tool released for ReiserFS yet. Thats the only thing stopping me at the moment from going back to ReiserFS. I love that file system, but there have been a few times that I've needed to recover something, and if I hadn't been running ext2 I wouldn't have been able to retrieve it from the bad place of no return. - -- Mark - --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.0 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Ibh9JuZ1geTzHgERAnhAAJ0dZ8ZcZJzygqW+B066k/sqPJwgZgCgpotK XfPGc1iIYBcZHBlK0sNRh30= =036Y -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 12 January 2003 02:58 pm, H.J.Bathoorn scribbled incoherently: On Sunday 12 January 2003 18:40, James Sparenberg wrote: Just a curiosity... but since lilo is just about one of the oldest programs in linux. what happened? What happened was that lilo installation couldn't be stopped/skipped ...well no big deal so I installed it in the mbr as I usually do. On boot I found all the old entries still there next to the new one. But they all (the mdk entries) pointed to the same / partition(in my case hdd1) instead of the ones they originally pointed to. Thus rendering 9.0 unbootable. So I booted up old 9.0 using a boot floppy added 9.1 to lilo.conf, pointing it to it's proper partition and copied the needed initrd and vmlinuz to /boot and everything's fine. Good luck, HarM I'm not so sure I'll be so fortunate since I've tried that previously with an installation of redhat and got far less then stellar results for my efforts. It' a bit slower, but I can get there with a boot disk. - -- Mark - --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.0 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+IcWtJuZ1geTzHgERAs0QAKCC6ptpL43XcS3fxFJsesU7cfNhmgCaAvNz tWruYGD4n4Hh2oluiTtkfRI= =Mv6G -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 12 January 2003 03:01 pm, H.J.Bathoorn scribbled incoherently: hey Harm! at least you got buttons to click on at that point! :) No buttons showed up on that panel during the intall, which necessitated me starting the install all over and choosing all in order to get it going. The next place I got stuck was shortly after configuring X. I wasn't able to move on no matter what I did. Just took the chance on restarting the system and I was able to boot the system. Most, if not all, of the important things were finished though. And, it didn't want to make a bootdisk so I had to take care of that the old-fashioned way. I'm grateful for that though because now I'll have that squirreled away for a rainy day should the need arise. - -- Mark Was that an upgrade or a fresh install? fresh install. I never do upgrades. - -- Mark - --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.0 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+IcX7JuZ1geTzHgERAneTAKCob61BqlRSOSZiQo6ODRu6lvUsxQCgl9hm /HAswWOxPMK4+LuoLsSsx7A= =Ej/f -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 12 January 2003 02:02 pm, SainTiss scribbled incoherently: Hi there, a little while ago, I was looking for a way to undelete a file on an ext3 filesystem, but didn't find any... Seems like you know more about this issue, so would you mind sharing some knowledge about this? :-) Thanks, Hans Hans, I've never been able to recover anything from an ext3 FS. I've only been able to do it with MC on an ext2 FS. MC=Midnight Commander has an undelete feature that makes recovery of a deleted file not only possible, but for the most part successful. - -- Mark - --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.0 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+IccwJuZ1geTzHgERAjw7AJ95G8PRaFkD7jbiguvxrWFcw8oqxgCgs0Lu SMcA/3Vfk8CsSxHnpmdLhkU= =7Nsk -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 11 January 2003 02:03 pm, Ric Tibbetts scribbled incoherently: which reminds me...Tom, has there been an unerase recovery tool released for ReiserFS yet. Thats the only thing stopping me at the moment from going back to ReiserFS. I love that file system, but there have been a few times that I've needed to recover something, and if I hadn't been running ext2 I wouldn't have been able to retrieve it from the bad place of no return. - -- Mark Mark; Not meaning to sound like a smart a** here. But the best, most reliable unerase system I've found, that is fully transportable across all platforms, is a good backup system. There's just no making up for it. Ric Hi Ric, You are totally and completely correct. At the time I was furiously searching for a way to recover some data I didn't have the means to perform such backups as I do now, but I really wouldn't mind be able to do such a thing as a just in case. But your point is well taken and quite valid. - -- Mark - --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.0 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+IcetJuZ1geTzHgERAnblAJwI+GxUtfEjJx1WKQBBD7tcpecjBQCeIk35 H2vOD9Uw0HQaeMmBxCj2TQY= =FEYG -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 12 January 2003 02:54 pm, Charles A Edwards scribbled incoherently: On 11 Jan 2003 14:03:20 -0500 Ric Tibbetts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not meaning to sound like a smart a** here. But the best, most reliableunerase system I've found, that is fully transportable across all platforms, is a good backup system. There's just no making up for it. Speaking as myself and not for Mark, the problem with any back-up system is the same as the one which caused the data to be erased in the first place. That is the a** sitting in front of the keyboard. Charles OoooYA ! I can relate to that. ;) many were the times the worst thing any of my Linux systems suffered from was a horrid case of PBCK errors running rampant on the system. ( PBCK=Problem Between Chair and Keyboard : for any that didn't already know what that meant. ) - -- Mark - --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.0 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+IcglJuZ1geTzHgERAs+IAJ9U7nFQdYn6bBRkBaZWwkV+iJ0uuQCgyuhl 5L2AkMUX8Dkcl8Bq5eUNgHo= =sY/S -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions
1) Mi dhcp (cable modem) not well installed, the resolv.conf file was empty; I had to put the ips using a text editor. Now is runing 2) Tv well configured. I downloaded xawtv and the dependence files from cooker; now is runing fine. 3) my second cd-driver (dvd) is not well configured; I will try to know where the problem arises. 4) urpmi has some problem, the media installed is cd1, but it can't recognize that is into the drive :-(. I have tried erasing the media (urpmi.removemedia) and adding it again (urpmi.addmedia) but still not runing. 5) xine need xine-plugin to run; I had to download it from cooker. 6) some problem with the nvidia Xfree86 module. Not DRI activated, and when I restart kde some of the windows became transparent. Of course the nvidia drivers will be welcome at the end of the test. 7) Epson Perfection 1200U: scanner don't recognized (disappeared from the data base of scannerdrake? 8) I can't test playing audio, no kde-multimedia file to have kscd avalaible More comments later, now is to late I need to sleep Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions
Mark did it give you the rpm-rebuild package? James On Sat, 2003-01-11 at 18:22, Mark Weaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 11 January 2003 08:47 pm, Francisco Alcaraz Ariza scribbled incoherently: 1) Mi dhcp (cable modem) not well installed, the resolv.conf file was empty; I had to put the ips using a text editor. Now is runing 2) Tv well configured. I downloaded xawtv and the dependence files from cooker; now is runing fine. 3) my second cd-driver (dvd) is not well configured; I will try to know where the problem arises. 4) urpmi has some problem, the media installed is cd1, but it can't recognize that is into the drive :-(. I have tried erasing the media (urpmi.removemedia) and adding it again (urpmi.addmedia) but still not runing. 5) xine need xine-plugin to run; I had to download it from cooker. 6) some problem with the nvidia Xfree86 module. Not DRI activated, and when I restart kde some of the windows became transparent. Of course the nvidia drivers will be welcome at the end of the test. 7) Epson Perfection 1200U: scanner don't recognized (disappeared from the data base of scannerdrake? 8) I can't test playing audio, no kde-multimedia file to have kscd avalaible More comments later, now is to late I need to sleep Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) One thing I forgot to mention when I first loaded it up was the fact that I couldn't rebuild an src.rpm package. me thinks they've done the same thing to Mandrake RPM package that RH did, although now I can't recall the command that RH uses un 8.0 to rebuild rpm src packages. - -- Mark - --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.0 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+INFIJuZ1geTzHgERAnEvAJ4tO+juyt4r7Ye2A+upEJrvVpmTOgCdEW4M PxddCbNyL3sajNV7+LqQRTA= =woGW -END PGP SIGNATURE- __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions
It should be in cooker ... grab this one and you should be able to rebuild/build rpms... rpm-rebuilder-0.7-1mdk is the file from 9.0 and yes... if forgot the er before.. James On Sat, 2003-01-11 at 19:42, Mark Weaver wrote: James Sparenberg wrote: Mark did it give you the rpm-rebuild package? James No, I don't believe it did. I looked around for it, but it didn't appear to be there. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 11 January 2003 08:47 pm, Francisco Alcaraz Ariza scribbled incoherently: 1) Mi dhcp (cable modem) not well installed, the resolv.conf file was empty; I had to put the ips using a text editor. Now is runing 2) Tv well configured. I downloaded xawtv and the dependence files from cooker; now is runing fine. 3) my second cd-driver (dvd) is not well configured; I will try to know where the problem arises. 4) urpmi has some problem, the media installed is cd1, but it can't recognize that is into the drive :-(. I have tried erasing the media (urpmi.removemedia) and adding it again (urpmi.addmedia) but still not runing. 5) xine need xine-plugin to run; I had to download it from cooker. 6) some problem with the nvidia Xfree86 module. Not DRI activated, and when I restart kde some of the windows became transparent. Of course the nvidia drivers will be welcome at the end of the test. 7) Epson Perfection 1200U: scanner don't recognized (disappeared from the data base of scannerdrake? 8) I can't test playing audio, no kde-multimedia file to have kscd avalaible More comments later, now is to late I need to sleep Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) One thing I forgot to mention when I first loaded it up was the fact that I couldn't rebuild an src.rpm package. me thinks they've done the same thing to Mandrake RPM package that RH did, although now I can't recall the command that RH uses un 8.0 to rebuild rpm src packages. - -- Mark - --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.0 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+INFIJuZ1geTzHgERAnEvAJ4tO+juyt4r7Ye2A+upEJrvVpmTOgCdEW4M PxddCbNyL3sajNV7+LqQRTA= =woGW -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 beta 1 first impressions
James Sparenberg wrote: Mark did it give you the rpm-rebuild package? James No, I don't believe it did. I looked around for it, but it didn't appear to be there. -- Mark --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
