Re: [expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem - resolved in OO
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I submitted a bug report to openoffice.org about this problem and it has now been resolved in the latest build. There was a bug in the code that allowed for/created an empty OLE object on one of the slides and this prevented the export. It has been corrected in the latest build of OO, which makes the frame around the empty OLE object visable so it can be deleted. Once deleted, the presentation saves as powerpoint just fine. praedor - -- Conservatives of all times are adventitious liars. - - Friedrich Nietzsche. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Q7A01i/6R1B/Yh0RArhOAJ4vI0CawWLyW3JpVAuQXjrEU6opRwCglcgL 52SK7Nxk+DD6c6AhugH1q9Q= =Z6IH -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem
On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 13:25, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 16:15 -0500, et wrote: I would not put bets on where to blame in either case,,, my [gag,,cough, cough, choke] intuition makes me think of some weird kinda file corruption in both cases, but SO is the only common thread _that_ _we_ _know_ _of_. Yes, that sounds right, but... Taking into account that we may well have different computers, a different installation of maybe different versions of Mandrake it boils down to nothing in common at all, oh ... wait... Yes, the main principle of the binary system: 1 != 0 or on and old Mainframe I knew of -0 != +0 James You may take that further down to the Big Bang (No, I don't mean the one when your Dad spanked you for the first time!) wobo, not really serious. -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem
On Tuesday 04 Feb 2003 9:15 pm, et wrote: I would not put bets on where to blame in either case,,, my [gag,,cough, cough, choke] intuition makes me think of some weird kinda file corruption in both cases, but SO is the only common thread _that_ _we_ _know_ _of_. FWIW, I abandoned OOo from 8.2 for exactly the same reason - as files got bigger I started to have these problems, with what appeared to be file corruption. I didn't get those independantly tested as I did with these files, but on this occasion the apparent corruption has disappeared, so must have been a false reading of some kind. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem
On Tuesday 04 Feb 2003 5:39 am, James Sparenberg wrote: Anne .. whith me being blind in one eye and unable to see from the other do you happen to have the url. I do use Asian fonts on occasion and have had trouble. Thanks. http://wwws.sun.com/software/star/staroffice/6.0/patch.html HTH Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem
On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 01:42, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 04 Feb 2003 5:39 am, James Sparenberg wrote: Anne .. whith me being blind in one eye and unable to see from the other do you happen to have the url. I do use Asian fonts on occasion and have had trouble. Thanks. http://wwws.sun.com/software/star/staroffice/6.0/patch.html Thank you... HTH Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 09:43 -0800, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 01:42, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 04 Feb 2003 5:39 am, James Sparenberg wrote: Anne .. whith me being blind in one eye and unable to see from the other do you happen to have the url. I do use Asian fonts on occasion and have had trouble. Thanks. http://wwws.sun.com/software/star/staroffice/6.0/patch.html Thank you... I did not follow this thread like I should have done, sorry. I looked at the page and what I'd like to know is: What problems did you have that were fixed by this patch - or better: what problems is this patch supposed to fix? I've been using SO6 (installed from the 9.0 DVD) extensively with documents, spreadsheets and presentations, many times switching between M$ Office apps and SO6. I never experienced major problems, the only problems I had were on the M$ side. I guess that the patch will be in the SO6 version of the 9.1 DVD when it will be released, so is there any reason why I should install the patch now? wobo -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem
On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 09:55, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 09:43 -0800, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 01:42, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 04 Feb 2003 5:39 am, James Sparenberg wrote: Anne .. whith me being blind in one eye and unable to see from the other do you happen to have the url. I do use Asian fonts on occasion and have had trouble. Thanks. http://wwws.sun.com/software/star/staroffice/6.0/patch.html Thank you... I did not follow this thread like I should have done, sorry. I looked at the page and what I'd like to know is: What problems did you have that were fixed by this patch - or better: what problems is this patch supposed to fix? I've been using SO6 (installed from the 9.0 DVD) extensively with documents, spreadsheets and presentations, many times switching between M$ Office apps and SO6. I never experienced major problems, the only problems I had were on the M$ side. For me it's two things. One I'm having some troubles with Asian Font rendering (Ugly is not the word.) I'm hoping to fix. Second. I just like to be current on patches. I haven't applied / used it yet so I don't know if it will work. James I guess that the patch will be in the SO6 version of the 9.1 DVD when it will be released, so is there any reason why I should install the patch now? wobo -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem
On Tuesday 04 Feb 2003 5:55 pm, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 09:43 -0800, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 01:42, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 04 Feb 2003 5:39 am, James Sparenberg wrote: Anne .. whith me being blind in one eye and unable to see from the other do you happen to have the url. I do use Asian fonts on occasion and have had trouble. Thanks. http://wwws.sun.com/software/star/staroffice/6.0/patch.html Thank you... I did not follow this thread like I should have done, sorry. I looked at the page and what I'd like to know is: What problems did you have that were fixed by this patch - or better: what problems is this patch supposed to fix? Praedor was having problems with trying to save his presentation, and apparently getting corruption. I can't remember the details, I'm sure he will fill you in. I had found problems if I tried to have two fairly large (about 60-70 page) Starwriter documents open at the same time. This apparently resulted in corruption of the files, and I could no longer open them once that had happened. Others checked the files for me, and found that they could open them singly, but confirmed my problem with opening them both at the same time. When I found the patch I was unclear as to what it would do, other than it was supposed to have some bug fixes, and I had nothing to lose. In the event it seems that the major change is to improve the handling of Asian fonts, but the bug fixes seem to have cured my problem, as I can now open the two files that caused my original problem and cut and paste between them without any problem whatsoever. HTH Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem
On Tuesday 04 February 2003 12:55 pm, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 09:43 -0800, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 01:42, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 04 Feb 2003 5:39 am, James Sparenberg wrote: Anne .. whith me being blind in one eye and unable to see from the other do you happen to have the url. I do use Asian fonts on occasion and have had trouble. Thanks. http://wwws.sun.com/software/star/staroffice/6.0/patch.html Thank you... I did not follow this thread like I should have done, sorry. I looked at the page and what I'd like to know is: What problems did you have that were fixed by this patch - or better: what problems is this patch supposed to fix? I've been using SO6 (installed from the 9.0 DVD) extensively with documents, spreadsheets and presentations, many times switching between M$ Office apps and SO6. I never experienced major problems, the only problems I had were on the M$ side. I guess that the patch will be in the SO6 version of the 9.1 DVD when it will be released, so is there any reason why I should install the patch now? wobo one of this thread was the one you offered to test for Preador, the Star office presentation that gave an error when saving to Powerpoint, but could be cut and pasted to a new file, and saved with no problem, and Anne had a couple of files that were Star Office writter, that opening both files at the same time, (ie clicking on one file, and befor it got opend, if you clicked on the other file to open it, that froze the box. mouse moved, no keyboard response, no problem to ssh in form inside the lan and shut down with reboot. did the same on a few differnet boxes, but cp file1 file2 the file 2 works and opens cleanly etc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 15:37 -0500, et wrote: one of this thread was the one you offered to test for Preador, the Star office presentation that gave an error when saving to Powerpoint, but could be cut and pasted to a new file, and saved with no problem, and Anne had a I think that one was not really a SO fault. couple of files that were Star Office writter, that opening both files at the same time, (ie clicking on one file, and befor it got opend, if you clicked on the other file to open it, that froze the box. mouse moved, no keyboard response, no problem to ssh in form inside the lan and shut down with reboot. did the same on a few differnet boxes, but cp file1 file2 the file 2 works and opens cleanly etc This sounds like a clear thing in favour of the patch as Anne stated she did not have that problem after installing the patch. Thanks to you and Anne and James for enlightening me. wobo -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem
On Tuesday 04 February 2003 03:53 pm, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 15:37 -0500, et wrote: one of this thread was the one you offered to test for Preador, the Star office presentation that gave an error when saving to Powerpoint, but could be cut and pasted to a new file, and saved with no problem, and Anne had a I think that one was not really a SO fault. couple of files that were Star Office writter, that opening both files at the same time, (ie clicking on one file, and befor it got opend, if you clicked on the other file to open it, that froze the box. mouse moved, no keyboard response, no problem to ssh in form inside the lan and shut down with reboot. did the same on a few differnet boxes, but cp file1 file2 the file 2 works and opens cleanly etc This sounds like a clear thing in favour of the patch as Anne stated she did not have that problem after installing the patch. Thanks to you and Anne and James for enlightening me. wobo I would not put bets on where to blame in either case,,, my [gag,,cough, cough, choke] intuition makes me think of some weird kinda file corruption in both cases, but SO is the only common thread _that_ _we_ _know_ _of_. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 16:15 -0500, et wrote: I would not put bets on where to blame in either case,,, my [gag,,cough, cough, choke] intuition makes me think of some weird kinda file corruption in both cases, but SO is the only common thread _that_ _we_ _know_ _of_. Yes, that sounds right, but... Taking into account that we may well have different computers, a different installation of maybe different versions of Mandrake it boils down to nothing in common at all, oh ... wait... Yes, the main principle of the binary system: 1 != 0 You may take that further down to the Big Bang (No, I don't mean the one when your Dad spanked you for the first time!) wobo, not really serious. -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem
Out of interest, does anyone know if Staroffice patches can be applied to Openoffice installations? Could it be done? Would it break things? Brian From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tuesday 04 Feb 2003 5:39 am, James Sparenberg wrote: Anne .. whith me being blind in one eye and unable to see from the other do you happen to have the url. I do use Asian fonts on occasion and have had trouble. Thanks. http://wwws.sun.com/software/star/staroffice/6.0/patch.html HTH Anne _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have a starimpress presentation that I must save as a powerpoint presentation. Trying to do so from either staroffice 6.0 or OO 1.0.1 fails with a beep and a General error input/output error. Is there some limitation/issue with these packages with regards to saving to powerpoint? praedor - -- Conservatives of all times are adventitious liars. - - Friedrich Nietzsche. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+PmXt1i/6R1B/Yh0RApkZAKCYhztmnsana14SMrzcq8RfD1ropwCfSfwX CWa8vRZdQZiAtG78NCwQIzI= =D8i4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem
with a beep and a General error input/output error. You are not trying to save on a fat32 partition, are you ? Apart from the fact that soffice won't read those, I had weird problems with nfs and MS formats. I could save as staroffice/openoffice own formats on nfs, but got systematic crashes when trying to write a ppt or xls formated file on nfs. No clue why. Thomas. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 03 February 2003 08:08 am, Thomas Sourmail wrote: with a beep and a General error input/output error. You are not trying to save on a fat32 partition, are you ? Apart from the fact that soffice won't read those, I had weird problems with nfs and MS formats. I could save as staroffice/openoffice own formats on nfs, but got systematic crashes when trying to write a ppt or xls formated file on nfs. No clue why. I am merely trying to save the file to my local XFS partition. I am also having problems saving it to ReiserFS. It doesn't even TRY to save, the error is instantaneous with hitting save as powerpoint. No errors show up on the CLI if I start either OO or SO from the CLI. - -- Conservatives of all times are adventitious liars. - - Friedrich Nietzsche. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Pm+b1i/6R1B/Yh0RAtErAKCOTy0Rvj4MEz2p1B9CNf/Ywj/8EgCfdwbM d2DQor9iWgPPhNDCNvKr+QQ= =2WaA -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem
try sending the starimpress presentation to me off list... let's see if the same thing happens here.. I have a starimpress presentation that I must save as a powerpoint presentation. Trying to do so from either staroffice 6.0 or OO 1.0.1 fails with a beep and a General error input/output error. Is there some limitation/issue with these packages with regards to saving to powerpoint? praedor - -- Conservatives of all times are adventitious liars. - - Friedrich Nietzsche. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+PmXt1i/6R1B/Yh0RApkZAKCYhztmnsana14SMrzcq8RfD1ropwCfSfwX CWa8vRZdQZiAtG78NCwQIzI= =D8i4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 09:03 -0500, et wrote: try sending the starimpress presentation to me off list... let's see if the same thing happens here.. Send it to me too, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem
Pradeor, Had a real PowderPoint file I edited and tried to save about 6 months ago, To get it to save I had to first save it in Star Office's format. Then close the file Open it and then I could save it as a power point, I don't know why it did this. I've never been able to repeat it. It just did. The only other thing I can think of is that SO is opened under user A and user B is the owner of the directory. (I've done this a number of times) SO doesn't give good error messages in this case and the results you are getting are the same as in the case I mentioned. James PS someone mentioned trouble saving to an NFS partition. Linux doesn't (by default) write to NFS, because if you do try it. 50-50 chance of corruption. On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 06:09, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 09:03 -0500, et wrote: try sending the starimpress presentation to me off list... let's see if the same thing happens here.. Send it to me too, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 09:57 -0800, James Sparenberg wrote: Pradeor, Had a real PowderPoint file I edited and tried to save about 6 months ago, To get it to save I had to first save it in Star Office's format. Then close the file Open it and then I could save it as a power point, I don't know why it did this. I've never been able to repeat it. It just did. The only other thing I can think of is that SO is opened under user A and user B is the owner of the directory. (I've done this a number of times) SO doesn't give good error messages in this case and the results you are getting are the same as in the case I mentioned. Tried the option with opening it in SO6 and without starting the presentation trying to save as PowerPoint. Error! There is only one defined user (apart from the usual crowd: root, news, nobody, etc.) and the original file as well as the tearget directory are both in this user's home. All I tried so far resulted in the same error as the original poster described. I created another presentation with exactly the same amount of slides and a lot of images (no meaningful contents just a dummy file) and had no trouble to save it as PowerPoint file. Must be something in the file. Strange! wobo -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem
ok, here is the kick in the crotch I could not save it in SO powerpoint, so i created a new presentation, copy and pasted all the slides to the new presentation, and it saved with no problem. On Monday 03 February 2003 01:20 pm, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 09:57 -0800, James Sparenberg wrote: Pradeor, Had a real PowderPoint file I edited and tried to save about 6 months ago, To get it to save I had to first save it in Star Office's format. Then close the file Open it and then I could save it as a power point, I don't know why it did this. I've never been able to repeat it. It just did. The only other thing I can think of is that SO is opened under user A and user B is the owner of the directory. (I've done this a number of times) SO doesn't give good error messages in this case and the results you are getting are the same as in the case I mentioned. Tried the option with opening it in SO6 and without starting the presentation trying to save as PowerPoint. Error! There is only one defined user (apart from the usual crowd: root, news, nobody, etc.) and the original file as well as the tearget directory are both in this user's home. All I tried so far resulted in the same error as the original poster described. I created another presentation with exactly the same amount of slides and a lot of images (no meaningful contents just a dummy file) and had no trouble to save it as PowerPoint file. Must be something in the file. Strange! wobo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 03 February 2003 01:45 pm, et wrote: ok, here is the kick in the crotch I could not save it in SO powerpoint, so i created a new presentation, copy and pasted all the slides to the new presentation, and it saved with no problem. Hell's bells. Hmpf. Being an emergency, I tried other options and have decided to go with pdf. Staroffice, I found, cannot create (in this case at least) a valid/useable pdf file. By printing instead to a postscript file (SO does BEAUTIFUL postscript) and then using ps2pdfwr I get an equally gorgeous pdf file. My committee will have to make do with a pdf file as I have already generated it and tested it. Thanks for the attempts (and possible answer). I will have to try the copy-paste to a new file. Must be some wierd bit somewhere in the presentation. praedor - -- Conservatives of all times are adventitious liars. - - Friedrich Nietzsche. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+PrkH1i/6R1B/Yh0RApnfAJ9+MQLjnuGq5OYteUGUPduiB5aZ7wCZAUE8 +BkCB5WGeb0v0LtLXDwg2nQ= =G4oM -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 13:45 -0500, et wrote: ok, here is the kick in the crotch I could not save it in SO powerpoint, so i created a new presentation, copy and pasted all the slides to the new presentation, and it saved with no problem. Just what I expected: On Monday 03 February 2003 01:20 pm, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: Must be something in the file. Strange! wobo wobo -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem
On Monday 03 Feb 2003 6:46 pm, Praedor Tempus Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 03 February 2003 01:45 pm, et wrote: ok, here is the kick in the crotch I could not save it in SO powerpoint, so i created a new presentation, copy and pasted all the slides to the new presentation, and it saved with no problem. Hell's bells. Hmpf. Being an emergency, I tried other options and have decided to go with pdf. Staroffice, I found, cannot create (in this case at least) a valid/useable pdf file. By printing instead to a postscript file (SO does BEAUTIFUL postscript) and then using ps2pdfwr I get an equally gorgeous pdf file. My committee will have to make do with a pdf file as I have already generated it and tested it. Thanks for the attempts (and possible answer). I will have to try the copy-paste to a new file. Must be some wierd bit somewhere in the presentation. This sounds suspiciously like the problems I've had with some .sxw files. After a lot of help from et and others I gave up, thinking it couldn't be solved. Then I went onto Sun's website and discovered that there is a patch, a sort of service pack 2. I installed it; a lot of bits said they could not install, but looking over the docs that come with it I think they were concerned with asian fonts, which I don't have. The upshot is, I think the bug fixes that are in there have cured my problem. The files that I believed to be corrupted beyond recovery now open and can be used with ease. HTH Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem
Anne .. whith me being blind in one eye and unable to see from the other do you happen to have the url. I do use Asian fonts on occasion and have had trouble. Thanks. James On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 10:55, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 03 Feb 2003 6:46 pm, Praedor Tempus Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 03 February 2003 01:45 pm, et wrote: ok, here is the kick in the crotch I could not save it in SO powerpoint, so i created a new presentation, copy and pasted all the slides to the new presentation, and it saved with no problem. Hell's bells. Hmpf. Being an emergency, I tried other options and have decided to go with pdf. Staroffice, I found, cannot create (in this case at least) a valid/useable pdf file. By printing instead to a postscript file (SO does BEAUTIFUL postscript) and then using ps2pdfwr I get an equally gorgeous pdf file. My committee will have to make do with a pdf file as I have already generated it and tested it. Thanks for the attempts (and possible answer). I will have to try the copy-paste to a new file. Must be some wierd bit somewhere in the presentation. This sounds suspiciously like the problems I've had with some .sxw files. After a lot of help from et and others I gave up, thinking it couldn't be solved. Then I went onto Sun's website and discovered that there is a patch, a sort of service pack 2. I installed it; a lot of bits said they could not install, but looking over the docs that come with it I think they were concerned with asian fonts, which I don't have. The upshot is, I think the bug fixes that are in there have cured my problem. The files that I believed to be corrupted beyond recovery now open and can be used with ease. HTH Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Staroffice/Openoffice problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Does anyone here make much use of either package? I am generating a powerpoint presentation with Staroffice 6.0 and even though it indicates that it can import/understand eps format, if I try to import an eps into a slide or graphic, all it ever does is show a box with red text in it indicating that it is an eps file. It NEVER actually displays the graphic. Not to the screen, not upon printout, nothing. Does anyone know if SO/OO really CAN read eps format or what the trick is for it to actually render eps? praedor -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+NDk7wDUPEkSvRHERAspsAJ0VlfFBNsehoJ9MJvOvi5+nCmyw+QCgtJfA SMXYUO1hE1Rt1LrCnzjNMko= =o19P -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Staroffice/Openoffice problem
Praedor, I have had the same problem with OO.o. I have started using the Prosper package with LaTeX to create presentations (that run using Acrobat, not powerpoint of course). It is very nice and of course has no problem with eps files. See, for example: http://www.ma.man.ac.uk/~mheil/Prosper/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/prosper/ In fact what I am doing is using R (open source implemenation of the S statistical programming language) with Sweave (integrates R/S and LaTeX) and Prosper to create single self-documented analysis files that run an analysis, create a paper and produce the presentation. Last week while I was sleeping my mind was reviewing the code of a presentation I was due to give and found a mistake. My mind alerted me immediately (at 4am) and I got up, fixed the bugs, ran the program. This regenerated the paper and presentation with the updated charts. If I had had to cut and paste everything and update the numbers in the text manually it would have been a nightmare (Sweave allows you to reference the results of statistical calculations in the body of LaTeX text so you can make the whole thing dynamic). Sorry, a bit of a digression from the topic but I LOVE working this way and want to shout about it! R: www.r-project.org/ Sweave: http://www.ci.tuwien.ac.at/~leisch/Sweave/ Dave On Sun, Jan 26, 2003 at 02:38:35PM -0500, Praedor Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Does anyone here make much use of either package? I am generating a powerpoint presentation with Staroffice 6.0 and even though it indicates that it can import/understand eps format, if I try to import an eps into a slide or graphic, all it ever does is show a box with red text in it indicating that it is an eps file. It NEVER actually displays the graphic. Not to the screen, not upon printout, nothing. Does anyone know if SO/OO really CAN read eps format or what the trick is for it to actually render eps? praedor -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+NDk7wDUPEkSvRHERAspsAJ0VlfFBNsehoJ9MJvOvi5+nCmyw+QCgtJfA SMXYUO1hE1Rt1LrCnzjNMko= =o19P -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Dave Whiting Dar es Salaam, Tanzania Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Staroffice setup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It has been a while since I last had to do this and now I don't recall the procedure for installing staroffice for EVERYONE. What is the command after initial rpm install to install staroffice 6.0 such that everyone can use it? praedor - -- Conservatives of all times are adventitious liars. - - Friedrich Nietzsche. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+KDYQ1i/6R1B/Yh0RAmn5AJoCgZIbTU+uIFTIBryIoRmmSCse6ACfQx3z 0fvJfhEtRPDZzRsZYsWr5hY= =eA8m -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Staroffice setup
On Friday 17 January 2003 09:57 am, Praedor Tempus Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It has been a while since I last had to do this and now I don't recall the procedure for installing staroffice for EVERYONE. What is the command after initial rpm install to install staroffice 6.0 such that everyone can use it? praedor - -- Conservatives of all times are adventitious liars. - - Friedrich Nietzsche. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) /net or -net one should work. I've seen it used both ways. ./soffice -net -- Ken Thompson Payette, Idaho Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux- Coming Soon To A Desktop Near You Registered Linux User #183936 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] StarOffice Quickstart for Gnome2?
Hi Everyone, Just downloaded my copy of StarOffice from MandrakeClub. Does anyone know of a GNOME2 quickstart applet/script for StarOffice or OpenOffice? I have already tried the ooqstart-gnome rpms and also tried to build it from source but was unsuccessfull. Anyone? --Sandeep Today's tip: Uninstall the default Mozilla installation in Mandrake9 (All the mozilla packages) and install Mozilla 1.1 from http://www.mozilla.org in /usr/lib/mozilla-1.1/ (same location as default Mandrake mozilla installation). Now, Try using it directly or from Galeon. You will be amazed at it's speed and smooth scrolling!! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] StarOffice 6 printing multiple copies problem
Hi All, I wonder if anyone has this problem.. I use a Epson900 printer, ever since the later releases of the Gimp print drivers I haven't been able to print multiple copies of a document.. I see that Star Office Ver 6 now supports the CUPS printing system.. Anyone know how to fix this problem.. The only way that I can print multiple copies of a document, is print to a file, may be call it print.ps, then use lpr like lpr -#5 print.ps to get my 5 copies.. anyone know a method around this, as all I would like to do is select 5 copies from the dialog straight out of StarOffice..OpenOffice also has the same problem.. Cheers Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] StarOffice
Everything I install *out* of my distribution I install on /opt. It's better for 'management'. Am I wrong or I remember that RH (and therfore Mandrake ?) are not touching /usr/local/, in which case you are just as sure everything which is there is out of your distribution ? Thomas. Ricardo Castanho 1. Install SO with the /net option 2. Change directory to where soffice is located 3. Execute soffice and follow the instructions 4. Done That seems straightforward to me. But, when I executed soffice, I got an error message that SO was already installed. Anyway, I installed it in my home directory. Maybe I'll try the /net option at some later date if someone knows what happened. - -- Whenever possible mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] == Linux user # 102240 = Machine # 96125 = Seti@home user == -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iEUEARECAAYFAjwVhdoACgkQ9I0k95pf9XuGFACfQhTI9uJhQcTljRyxnkblbh1B LzUAmKMpDXaHYCOdcXmnic2XYQ5eSbA= =PXki -END PGP SIGNATURE- Thomas Sourmail http://www.cus.cam.ac.uk/~ts228 Phase Transformations Group Department of Materials Science and Metallurgy. Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QZ. Tel: (44) (0)1223 334495 http://www.neuromat.co.uk http://www.dar.cam.ac.uk/dcbc Darwin College 25 Hertford Street Tel: 01223 572371 CB5 8HH Cambridge Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] StarOffice
I think you are right. Although during my day job (Solaris) we use /opt, at home (MDK) I use /usr/local, which had nothing in it apart from top level directories after a fresh install. Most addon packages for Solaris install into /usr/local too. So I really wish we didn't use /opt at work. However sometime a /opt is useful (on both Solaris MDK) since some packages insist upon it. In this case I find a link between /opt and /usr/local useful. (The real story on Solaris is much more complicated - but I won't bore you with that ;) Nick. Thomas Sourmail wrote: Everything I install *out* of my distribution I install on /opt. It's better for 'management'. Am I wrong or I remember that RH (and therfore Mandrake ?) are not touching /usr/local/, in which case you are just as sure everything which is there is out of your distribution ? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] StarOffice
If you install it without the /net option accidentally you should be able to either run the install again and choose uninstall. There is a . file in you home dir when installed, SO checks for this. remove this hidden file, and then reinstall, all should be fine with using /net then. That is how 5.2 was at least. I haven't used Star Office in quite some time now. Brian D. Klar - CVE OTS WPAFB -Original Message- From: Lee Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 9:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] StarOffice At 07:34 PM 12/9/2001 -0500, Hoyt Duff wrote: On Sunday 09 December 2001 05:20 pm, you wrote: El dom, 09-12-2001 a las 20:22, Lee Roberts escribió: The /net option just made me more frustrated. Screw it! I don't have the time to spend trying to make this stuff work. Why can't it a straightforward install??? Thanks for everyone's help anyway. Then, just install it without the /net option, selecting your home directory for install (a.e. /home/lee/office52). It can't do a straightforward install because Linux is a multi-user, networked OS. Star Office is appropriately designed for installation in such an environment. As a result, properly designed programs seem a little strange in a home desktop environment. However, many apps are not designed to live in a multi-user networked environment (like Netscape which needs to be heavily customized to behave well on a network) and present problems to the sysadmin like inappropriate permissions, wasted disk space for redundant files, unnecessary use of bandwidth for eye-candy, and so on. According to what you guys told me, the sequence for installing StarOffice for multiple users is as follows: 1. Install SO with the /net option 2. Change directory to where soffice is located 3. Execute soffice and follow the instructions 4. Done That seems straightforward to me. But, when I executed soffice, I got an error message that SO was already installed. Anyway, I installed it in my home directory. Maybe I'll try the /net option at some later date if someone knows what happened. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] StarOffice
At 07:34 PM 12/9/2001 -0500, Hoyt Duff wrote: On Sunday 09 December 2001 05:20 pm, you wrote: El dom, 09-12-2001 a las 20:22, Lee Roberts escribió: The /net option just made me more frustrated. Screw it! I don't have the time to spend trying to make this stuff work. Why can't it a straightforward install??? Thanks for everyone's help anyway. Then, just install it without the /net option, selecting your home directory for install (a.e. /home/lee/office52). It can't do a straightforward install because Linux is a multi-user, networked OS. Star Office is appropriately designed for installation in such an environment. As a result, properly designed programs seem a little strange in a home desktop environment. However, many apps are not designed to live in a multi-user networked environment (like Netscape which needs to be heavily customized to behave well on a network) and present problems to the sysadmin like inappropriate permissions, wasted disk space for redundant files, unnecessary use of bandwidth for eye-candy, and so on. According to what you guys told me, the sequence for installing StarOffice for multiple users is as follows: 1. Install SO with the /net option 2. Change directory to where soffice is located 3. Execute soffice and follow the instructions 4. Done That seems straightforward to me. But, when I executed soffice, I got an error message that SO was already installed. Anyway, I installed it in my home directory. Maybe I'll try the /net option at some later date if someone knows what happened. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] StarOffice
Greetings: 1. Install has to be done as root. You can also use -net instead of /net 2. Log out as root and login as _normal_ user and cd to /opt/staroffice/program ( or wherever soffice is). 3. run it According to what you guys told me, the sequence for installing StarOffice for multiple users is as follows: 1. Install SO with the /net option 2. Change directory to where soffice is located 3. Execute soffice and follow the instructions 4. Done That seems straightforward to me. But, when I executed soffice, I got an error message that SO was already installed. Anyway, I installed it in my home directory. Maybe I'll try the /net option at some later date if someone knows what happened. -- Salvatore Enrico Indiogine 505-627-0759 Registered Linux User #217339 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] StarOffice
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, Lee Roberts wrote: Just one more word. I have installed SO on many systems since v.5.0 I've always installed it into /opt as root! As user I just start the binary (.../soffice)and SO asks me what kind of installation I want giving me 3 options. I've always chosen the minimalist installation as user. It has *always* worked. Never used the /net option or the /usr path installation. Everything I install *out* of my distribution I install on /opt. It's better for 'management'. Ricardo Castanho 1. Install SO with the /net option 2. Change directory to where soffice is located 3. Execute soffice and follow the instructions 4. Done That seems straightforward to me. But, when I executed soffice, I got an error message that SO was already installed. Anyway, I installed it in my home directory. Maybe I'll try the /net option at some later date if someone knows what happened. - -- Whenever possible mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] == Linux user # 102240 = Machine # 96125 = Seti@home user == -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iEUEARECAAYFAjwVhdoACgkQ9I0k95pf9XuGFACfQhTI9uJhQcTljRyxnkblbh1B LzUAmKMpDXaHYCOdcXmnic2XYQ5eSbA= =PXki -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] StarOffice
El dom, 09-12-2001 a las 02:16, Lee Roberts escribió: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 What is the purpose of the /net option? I remember reading something about it in the docs but it said that it might cause a conflict with something. Also, I had to change the permissions of the bin file in order to run it. The -net option installs so5.2 in a directory (a.e. /opt/soffice52) w/o the user configuration. From this directory you can run the setup script as user, and install the user part of soffice in your home directory (or full install of course). Usually you do not need to change the permissions of setup. After installing with the -net option, goto /opt/office52/program and run setup. Do not run /opt/office52/program/soffice or you can get problems. Hope this help. Salu2 óscar. -- . --- |o_o | |:_/ | Usuario // \ \ de Linux (| | ) Registrado /'\_ _/`\ #227443 \___)=(___/ http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] StarOffice
The /net option just made me more frustrated. Screw it! I don't have the time to spend trying to make this stuff work. Why can't it a straightforward install??? Thanks for everyone's help anyway. At 11:43 AM 12/9/2001 +0100, Oscar wrote: El dom, 09-12-2001 a las 02:16, Lee Roberts escribió: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 What is the purpose of the /net option? I remember reading something about it in the docs but it said that it might cause a conflict with something. Also, I had to change the permissions of the bin file in order to run it. The -net option installs so5.2 in a directory (a.e. /opt/soffice52) w/o the user configuration. From this directory you can run the setup script as user, and install the user part of soffice in your home directory (or full install of course). Usually you do not need to change the permissions of setup. After installing with the -net option, goto /opt/office52/program and run setup. Do not run /opt/office52/program/soffice or you can get problems. Hope this help. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] StarOffice
And not to mention that Mandrake Update keeps screwing up my KDE desktop. UserDrake no longer works and the start menu no longer shows a Networking selection along with items missing from Configuration and so on. Needless to say, I'm a bit ticked off! At 12:22 PM 12/9/2001 -0700, Lee Roberts wrote: The /net option just made me more frustrated. Screw it! I don't have the time to spend trying to make this stuff work. Why can't it a straightforward install??? Thanks for everyone's help anyway. At 11:43 AM 12/9/2001 +0100, Oscar wrote: El dom, 09-12-2001 a las 02:16, Lee Roberts escribió: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 What is the purpose of the /net option? I remember reading something about it in the docs but it said that it might cause a conflict with something. Also, I had to change the permissions of the bin file in order to run it. The -net option installs so5.2 in a directory (a.e. /opt/soffice52) w/o the user configuration. From this directory you can run the setup script as user, and install the user part of soffice in your home directory (or full install of course). Usually you do not need to change the permissions of setup. After installing with the -net option, goto /opt/office52/program and run setup. Do not run /opt/office52/program/soffice or you can get problems. Hope this help. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] StarOffice
El dom, 09-12-2001 a las 20:22, Lee Roberts escribió: The /net option just made me more frustrated. Screw it! I don't have the time to spend trying to make this stuff work. Why can't it a straightforward install??? Thanks for everyone's help anyway. Then, just install it without the /net option, selecting your home directory for install (a.e. /home/lee/office52). -- . --- |o_o | |:_/ | Usuario // \ \ de Linux (| | ) Registrado /'\_ _/`\ #227443 \___)=(___/ http://counter.li.org/ -- . --- |o_o | |:_/ | Usuario // \ \ de Linux (| | ) Registrado /'\_ _/`\ #227443 \___)=(___/ http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] StarOffice
On Sunday 09 December 2001 05:20 pm, you wrote: El dom, 09-12-2001 a las 20:22, Lee Roberts escribió: The /net option just made me more frustrated. Screw it! I don't have the time to spend trying to make this stuff work. Why can't it a straightforward install??? Thanks for everyone's help anyway. Then, just install it without the /net option, selecting your home directory for install (a.e. /home/lee/office52). It can't do a straightforward install because Linux is a multi-user, networked OS. Star Office is appropriately designed for installation in such an environment. As a result, properly designed programs seem a little strange in a home desktop environment. However, many apps are not designed to live in a multi-user networked environment (like Netscape which needs to be heavily customized to behave well on a network) and present problems to the sysadmin like inappropriate permissions, wasted disk space for redundant files, unnecessary use of bandwidth for eye-candy, and so on. El Dom's advice is appropriate for you and probably every exclusive single-user installation of SO. Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] StarOffice
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I just installed SO 5.2 as SU. I can't seem to get it to run by a user, only su. I tried changing the permissions and tried changing ownership but it still says it can't find sofficerc when a user tries to execute it. Anyone have a solution? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8EopWjCg8oFTHzFARAgSIAKCZPtTq2NDpPiN4V78xE4wKyGmgQQCgtge+ U3DZkGpW+3ynhs99z/7P7fo= =Tiec -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] StarOffice
I just installed SO 5.2 as SU. I can't seem to get it to run by a user, only su. I tried changing the permissions and tried changing ownership but it still says it can't find sofficerc when a user tries to execute it. Anyone have a solution? Did you install with the /net option ? As root, install :'so52-whatevername.bin /net' (when asked, install in something like /usr/local/office52, not /root (stupid default) as non priviledge users can't read there !) Then as a user, run '/usr/local/office52/program/soffice' (example) to do your local install. To be able to start it by simply running 'soffice' later on, you want to add ~/office52 to your PATH. Hope that helps, Thomas. Thomas Sourmail http://www.cus.cam.ac.uk/~ts228 Phase Transformations Group Department of Materials Science and Metallurgy. Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QZ. http://www.neuromat.co.uk http://www.dar.cam.ac.uk/dcbc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] StarOffice
On Saturday 08 December 2001 05:00 pm, Thomas Sourmail wrote: I just installed SO 5.2 as SU. I can't seem to get it to run by a user, only su. I tried changing the permissions and tried changing ownership but it still says it can't find sofficerc when a user tries to execute it. Anyone have a solution? Did you install with the /net option ? This is the _best_ way to install SO. As root, install :'so52-whatevername.bin /net' (when asked, install in something like /usr/local/office52, not /root (stupid default) as non priviledge users can't read there !) I like /opt for Star Office. BTW, get the SO 6 beta -- much nicer! Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] StarOffice
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 BTW, get the SO 6 beta -- much nicer! Unless you need the drawing package, as it is buggy as hell. The word processor and spreadsheet are very nice however (and i havent tried the presentation software). - -- Tom Tomahawk Badran Department of Computing, Imperial College - --- PGP Key available from certserver.pgp.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8EqmgXCpWOla2mCcRAuilAJ9es2sRsr6qasENEw907COD+AH3+wCgjPcB FX37LVXLV/cwQqp0SW4ic24= =VrvJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] StarOffice
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 What is the purpose of the /net option? I remember reading something about it in the docs but it said that it might cause a conflict with something. Also, I had to change the permissions of the bin file in order to run it. I did have the foresight to change the default directory from /root/staroffice52 to /usr/local/staroffice52. I should add it to the path as you suggest (makes it a LOT easier to execute the program). I installed a desktop icon for SO also. For some reason, SO couldn't find JAVA even though it's installed in /usr/local and the path to the JRE was added to $PATH. Thanks for the info. I hope to hear more about the /net option. At 10:00 PM 12/8/2001 +, Thomas Sourmail wrote: I just installed SO 5.2 as SU. I can't seem to get it to run by a user, only su. I tried changing the permissions and tried changing ownership but it still says it can't find sofficerc when a user tries to execute it. Anyone have a solution? Did you install with the /net option ? As root, install :'so52-whatevername.bin /net' (when asked, install in something like /usr/local/office52, not /root (stupid default) as non priviledge users can't read there !) Then as a user, run '/usr/local/office52/program/soffice' (example) to do your local install. To be able to start it by simply running 'soffice' later on, you want to add ~/office52 to your PATH. Hope that helps, Thomas. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBPBK7b4woPKBUx8xQEQJ8VgCeLSMmI2CgrYYnDMqVGQpHAk8EFykAnRCN tE/jW0uV2FgjwKBf2V2DSeZZ =IBxC -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] StarOffice
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 05:28 PM 12/8/2001 -0500, Hoyt Duff wrote: On Saturday 08 December 2001 05:00 pm, Thomas Sourmail wrote: I just installed SO 5.2 as SU. I can't seem to get it to run by a user, only su. I tried changing the permissions and tried changing ownership but it still says it can't find sofficerc when a user tries to execute it. Anyone have a solution? Did you install with the /net option ? This is the _best_ way to install SO. I did not install with the /net option. Why is that needed? As root, install :'so52-whatevername.bin /net' (when asked, install in something like /usr/local/office52, not /root (stupid default) as non priviledge users can't read there !) I like /opt for Star Office. I chose /usr/local. BTW, I installed Mandrake 7.2 with the default partitions and I'm wondering why so much disk space was given to the /var partition? Only 4% is used and it's 14.2GB! Also, I'm wondering why only 29GB is shown in kdf when this is a 40GB drive? Surely, the swap partition isn't 11GB! BTW, get the SO 6 beta -- much nicer! Hmm, but I don't like betas. I've had enough major disk crashes to last a lifetime! 99% of them happened on Windoze though. Anyway SO 5.2 isn't so bad. And I'm glad that it can read Word documents. ALso, I need to find out why SO didn't see JAVA during install since I followed the instructions on installing JAVA and JAVA seems to be working in Netscape 6.2. No rest for the weary. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBPBK+R4woPKBUx8xQEQLUnQCgveUE5W4ez1lVRboS72tojee7PM0AoKOB XIL+vfwWU/tq+jYv0XJmM0c0 =Y2Fd -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] StarOffice
On Saturday 08 December 2001 06:28 pm, you wrote: At 05:28 PM 12/8/2001 -0500, Hoyt Duff wrote: On Saturday 08 December 2001 05:00 pm, Thomas Sourmail wrote: I just installed SO 5.2 as SU. I can't seem to get it to run by a user, only su. I tried changing the permissions and tried changing ownership but it still says it can't find sofficerc when a user tries to execute it. Anyone have a solution? Did you install with the /net option ? This is the _best_ way to install SO. I did not install with the /net option. Why is that needed? As root, install :'so52-whatevername.bin /net' (when asked, install in something like /usr/local/office52, not /root (stupid default) as non priviledge users can't read there !) I like /opt for Star Office. I chose /usr/local. BTW, I installed Mandrake 7.2 with the default partitions and I'm wondering why so much disk space was given to the /var partition? Only 4% is used and it's 14.2GB! Also, I'm wondering why only 29GB is shown in kdf when this is a 40GB drive? Surely, the swap partition isn't 11GB! BTW, get the SO 6 beta -- much nicer! Hmm, but I don't like betas. I've had enough major disk crashes to last a lifetime! 99% of them happened on Windoze though. Anyway SO 5.2 isn't so bad. And I'm glad that it can read Word documents. ALso, I need to find out why SO didn't see JAVA during install since I followed the instructions on installing JAVA and JAVA seems to be working in Netscape 6.2. No rest for the weary. Use SUN's jre 1.3 and it will work with both SO 52 and SO 6b1. If you download the 6.0b1 from SUN the jre is included and there is an option to install it during the SO install. -- Ken Thompson, North West Antique Autos Payette, Idaho Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nwaa.com ICQ 988809 Sales and brokering of antique autos and parts. Linux- Coming Soon To A Desktop Near You Registered Linux User #183936 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] StarOffice
At 07:57 PM 12/8/2001 -0700, Ken Thompson wrote: Use SUN's jre 1.3 and it will work with both SO 52 and SO 6b1. If you download the 6.0b1 from SUN the jre is included and there is an option to install it during the SO install. I have 1.3.1_01 installed. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] StarOffice
On Saturday 08 December 2001 08:48 pm, you wrote: At 07:57 PM 12/8/2001 -0700, Ken Thompson wrote: Use SUN's jre 1.3 and it will work with both SO 52 and SO 6b1. If you download the 6.0b1 from SUN the jre is included and there is an option to install it during the SO install. I have 1.3.1_01 installed. I used the RPM from the mandrake 8.1 Standard Edition to install SO52. Here is the script location for the java setup: file:/usr/lib/office52_en/program/jvmsetup. I then used the browse function to navigate to the directory where I had jre1.3 installed and BINGO java support. -- Ken Thompson, North West Antique Autos Payette, Idaho Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nwaa.com ICQ 988809 Sales and brokering of antique autos and parts. Linux- Coming Soon To A Desktop Near You Registered Linux User #183936 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] StarOffice
On Saturday 08 December 2001 08:16 pm, you wrote: What is the purpose of the /net option? I remember reading something about it in the docs but it said that it might cause a conflict with something. Also, I had to change the permissions of the bin file in order to run it. That installs the bulk of the app in a directory common to all users and then each user gets their own part as well. This is how some apps are shared over a network. I did have the foresight to change the default directory from /root/staroffice52 to /usr/local/staroffice52. I should add it to the path as you suggest (makes it a LOT easier to execute the program). I installed a desktop icon for SO also. I set up the menu to launch it from where I installed it (in /opt). For some reason, SO couldn't find JAVA even though it's installed in /usr/local and the path to the JRE was added to $PATH. Yeah, what's up with that? I wanted to point Konqueror at the JRE and it doesn't see it. Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] StarOffice
On Saturday 08 December 2001 07:00 pm, you wrote: BTW, get the SO 6 beta -- much nicer! Unless you need the drawing package, as it is buggy as hell. The word processor and spreadsheet are very nice however (and i havent tried the presentation software). All I use is the word processor and it's all I install. Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] StarOffice
On Saturday 08 December 2001 10:48 pm, you wrote: On Saturday 08 December 2001 08:16 pm, you wrote: What is the purpose of the /net option? I remember reading something about it in the docs but it said that it might cause a conflict with something. Also, I had to change the permissions of the bin file in order to run it. That installs the bulk of the app in a directory common to all users and then each user gets their own part as well. This is how some apps are shared over a network. I did have the foresight to change the default directory from /root/staroffice52 to /usr/local/staroffice52. I should add it to the path as you suggest (makes it a LOT easier to execute the program). I installed a desktop icon for SO also. I set up the menu to launch it from where I installed it (in /opt). For some reason, SO couldn't find JAVA even though it's installed in /usr/local and the path to the JRE was added to $PATH. Yeah, what's up with that? I wanted to point Konqueror at the JRE and it doesn't see it. Hoyt I have Konqueror working with the JRE 1.3 that came with the SO6.1 Beta. Also had it working with 8.0 and JRE 1.2.2.. -- Ken Thompson, North West Antique Autos Payette, Idaho Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nwaa.com ICQ 988809 Sales and brokering of antique autos and parts. Linux- Coming Soon To A Desktop Near You Registered Linux User #183936 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] StarOffice Hangs with S3 Savage Video Card fixed !
StarOffice usuallly hangs or generates weird drawings on the desktop when installing or running under XFree86 4.x. I solved this problem by installing a new savage driver found on http://www.probo.com/timr/savage40.html Maybe this fix could be integrated in future releases of mandrake? ciao Thorsten Gecks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] StarOffice Base
Hi, I usually use Star Office and have version 5.2 on my Linux-Mandrake 8 PC I recently read that StarOffice Base is available and that it can handle MS Access database files. I have downloaded a .bin file, changed the permissions and then run it as root. I cannot figure out what I am supposed to do next. It seemed to be installing and yet I cannot see what I can launch so I can proceed to use it. Can anyone help please? Norman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] StarOffice Base
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 02 October 2001 09:51 pm, Norman wrote: Hi, I usually use Star Office and have version 5.2 on my Linux-Mandrake 8 PC I recently read that StarOffice Base is available and that it can handle MS Access database files. I have downloaded a .bin file, changed the permissions and then run it as root. I cannot figure out what I am supposed to do next. It seemed to be installing and yet I cannot see what I can launch so I can proceed to use it. Can anyone help please? If you think it installed, what directory did you tell it to install into? Maybe /usr/local/something? Look in that directory, and there may be a bin/ or program/ subdirectory. This is usually the Star Office install method, and in the bin/ (or program/) subdirectory you will find the necessary executable file(s). Dave - -- Nihil tam munitum quod non expugnari pecunia possit. (No fortification is such that it cannot be subdued with money.) - - Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 B.C. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7uj1TA68l26XsZUYRAm8cAJ9NKR2tmCGWItQnta8KYU6SQm5NmACgluPg jmH4Px+UPEvHer+JubhsLDM= =Z/PP -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] StarOffice Base
It has been awhile...but, if you installed StarOffice as root and without the /net switch, only root will be able to use it. In /usr/local there should be a StarOffice directory. Within this directory, there should be a program directory. In program, there should be a binary called soffice. You can create a symlink to it in /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin as you wish. I would suggest, if you did NOT install SO with the /net switch, that you delete the staroffice directory and reinstall with with the /net switch so that regular users can use it. Staroffice no longer works with the KDE menu system, by the way. It used to install its icons in a subdirectory in your kmenu but no longer. You will have to manually create your kmenu entries. I just downloaded StarOffice 6.0 beta myself. DAMN! It's frickin' HUGE! 118MB. That's right, 118 MEGABYTES in size. It's size has nearly doubled since the last time I downloaded it. I was going to install it on my laptop but I don't have the hd space to permit something that big to take up residence. On Tuesday 02 October 2001 08:51 pm, you wrote: Hi, I usually use Star Office and have version 5.2 on my Linux-Mandrake 8 PC I recently read that StarOffice Base is available and that it can handle MS Access database files. I have downloaded a .bin file, changed the permissions and then run it as root. I cannot figure out what I am supposed to do next. It seemed to be installing and yet I cannot see what I can launch so I can proceed to use it. Can anyone help please? Norman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] StarOffice 5.2 Mandrake 8.0
Hi, I have installed Staroffice 5.2 and it's ok. But video font are very bad. I apply the variation described ( mandrakeuser.org) to /etc/X11/fs/config but no result with staroffice Beste regards Pierfrancesco Tateo
Re: [expert] staroffice and taskbar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yesterday I sendt a message asking if anyone knew how to switch documents within StarOffice. What I meant is if anyone knows how to switch documents using shoortut keys. The taskbar is rather slow, cumbersome an just plain boring. For example in KDE's destop, you can use Alt+Tab to switch between open applications. and Crtl+Tab to switch between desktops. My questions is: What are the shortcut keys to switch documents within StarOffice, if any? == Ctrl+Tab switches between documents for me!! But I don't use KDE (I use BlackBox) where Ctrl+ - or Ctrl+ - switches between Desktops. Mike -- Many loads of beer were brought. What disorder, whoring, fighting, killing, and dreadful idolatry took place there. --Baltasar Rusow, Estonia, 16th century __ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/
Re: [expert] staroffice
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know how to switch documents within staroffice. for example, i need to go how to go from a spreadsheet document to a text document open at the same time in staroffice. Thanks for your help in advance. === Sure. Open all the doc you want in SO. spreadsheet, text doc, db, whatever. At the bottom you'l see tabs for each open doc. Click on the tab of your choice to go to that doc. Easy. HTH, Mike -- Many loads of beer were brought. What disorder, whoring, fighting, killing, and dreadful idolatry took place there. --Baltasar Rusow, Estonia, 16th century __ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/
Re: [expert] staroffice and taskbar
On 26 Apr, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yesterday I sendt a message asking if anyone knew how to switch documents within StarOffice. What I meant is if anyone knows how to switch documents using shoortut keys. The taskbar is rather slow, cumbersome an just plain boring. For example in KDE's destop, you can use Alt+Tab to switch between open applications. and Crtl+Tab to switch between desktops. My questions is: What are the shortcut keys to switch documents within StarOffice, if any? Thank you to those who took the time to answer my query and to thos who will answer today There is a menu to configure keys, try to use that. L -- Laurent Duperval mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Inviter Achille Talon, c'est asseoir la réussite à sa table! -Achille Talon
Re: [expert] staroffice and taskbar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yesterday I sendt a message asking if anyone knew how to switch documents within StarOffice. What I meant is if anyone knows how to switch documents using shoortut keys. The taskbar is rather slow, cumbersome an just plain boring. For example in KDE's destop, you can use Alt+Tab to switch between open applications. and Crtl+Tab to switch between desktops. My questions is: What are the shortcut keys to switch documents within StarOffice, if any? Thank you to those who took the time to answer my query and to thos who will answer today Have you looked at the bottom of the StarOffice Desktop? There should be buttons for each of the files you have open. Pressing one of them should move you to the matching file. I just tried Ctrl+Tab and it also switches among the files. Is it possible that KDE is intercepting the Ctrl+Tab sequence? Best regards, Arnold -- Arnold Troeger Unocal Thailand Microsoft Windows: for when your machine is just too fast
[expert] staroffice and taskbar
yesterday I sendt a message asking if anyone knew how to switch documents within StarOffice. What I meant is if anyone knows how to switch documents using shoortut keys. The taskbar is rather slow, cumbersome an just plain boring. For example in KDE's destop, you can use Alt+Tab to switch between open applications. and Crtl+Tab to switch between desktops. My questions is: What are the shortcut keys to switch documents within StarOffice, if any? Thank you to those who took the time to answer my query and to thos who will answer today
[expert] staroffice
Does anyone know how to switch documents within staroffice. for example, i need to go how to go from a spreadsheet document to a text document open at the same time in staroffice. Thanks for your help in advance.
Re: [expert] StarOffice
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any users of StarOffice out there who can comment on it? I can really use something compatible with MS Word 2000; KWord just cannot cut it at this point and there really is no choice but to be compatible with the MS world from time to time, when I have to bring work home. == You will hear that SO 5.x is bloated (it is huge), slow to load, (it is), and had an unecessary desktop that like to take over, (it does). Upcoming versions will supposedly fix SOME of that by having components load seperately (at this point, the whole shibbang must load, sortta like M$ Works). But with all of its faults, I've yet to find something that so consistently handles M$ Office docs as well, and saves as well in that format. Applix isn't bad, but costs, and Abiword can only handle basics. SO 5.x has been with me for two years and has just worked. HTH, Mike -- Many loads of beer were brought. What disorder, whoring, fighting, killing, and dreadful idolatry took place there. --Baltasar Rusow, Estonia, 16th century __ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/
Re[2]: [expert] StarOffice
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Scottaline) wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any users of StarOffice out there who can comment on it? I can really use something compatible with MS Word 2000; KWord just cannot cut it at this point and there really is no choice but to be compatible with the MS world from time to time, when I have to bring work home. == You will hear that SO 5.x is bloated (it is huge), slow to load, (it is), and had an unecessary desktop that like to take over, (it does). agreed. I just loaded SO on solaris, and I've had netscrape up for quite a while, with like 12 'windows' up (icons? different displays? whatever - I've got 12 icons I can click on to see different stuff). And here's what top says: 21251 rcarruth 340 66M 43M sleep 0:07 7.11% 4.63% soffice.bin 10003 rcarruth 340 98M 31M sleep 34:59 2.46% 2.31% netscape So SO takes 66M just to load the desktop (which as mentioned brings everything else with it). But with all of its faults, I've yet to find something that so consistently handles M$ Office docs as well, and saves as well in that format. Applix isn't bad, but costs, and Abiword can only handle basics. SO 5.x has been with me for two years and has just worked. I've used SO from about 3 years ago - 2 of those years at an office where EVERYTHING was done in M$ tools (drove me nuts - they'd write plain text memos in excell sometimes! (well, ok, maybe I'm exxagerating (sp?), but it WAS pretty silly there sometimes)). And the only problems I had (that I can remember - its been a year since I worked there) were: 1 - all too often the bulleted lists' bullets would not show up right. (something to do with fonts, I think) 2 - if someone did something with brand new features of M$ junk you'd not be able to import it. I had one spreadsheet with rotated letters in vertical strips - i.e. waterfall letters l i k e t h i s and I simply could not import that spreadsheet. I think this was the only complete showstopper I ever had. I had them save it in an older file format (losing the warterfall (sic ;-)) and all was fine. 3 - these guys would do amazing things with spreadsheets. Sometimes their (VERY elaborate!!!) macros wouldn't work. These guys stressed SO pretty hard, and it worked much better than I'd expected it too. Not perfect - and I'm sure there were other warts that I've forgotten (or managed to avoid) - but quite good. rc Rusty Carruth Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (480) 345-3621 SnailMail: Schlumberger ATE FAX: (480) 345-8793 7855 S. River Parkway, Suite 116 Ham: N7IKQ @ 146.82+,pl 162.2 Tempe, AZ 85284-1825 ICBM: 33 20' 44N 111 53' 47W
[expert] StarOffice
Any users of StarOffice out there who can comment on it? I can really use something compatible with MS Word 2000; KWord just cannot cut it at this point and there really is no choice but to be compatible with the MS world from time to time, when I have to bring work home. Neal
Re: [expert] StarOffice
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, Neal Lippman wrote: Any users of StarOffice out there who can comment on it? I can really use something compatible with MS Word 2000; KWord just cannot cut it at this point and there really is no choice but to be compatible with the MS world from time to time, when I have to bring work home. Neal-- I have been using SO for quite a while now, and can hopefully give you some insight. SO is bulky, and slow. On a 900MHz Athlon with 128MB of RAM, it can take 15-20 seconds or more to get loaded up (depending on the system load). I think that this is becuase it loads up the word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, database and the whole nine yards. It has some funny quirks with MS file formats. One thing that I have noted is that if I do a spreadsheet with currency formatting in SO, it will look like this: $ 600.00 However, when I open it up in Excel, Star Office shows you its ancestry by displaying the currency as: DM 600.00! As long as you make sure to save back a version (i.e. '95/'97, rather than '97/2000 IIRC), you are generally OK. Headers and footers can be a little tricky, and tend to disappear between one and the other. Also, the document properties can kind of get munged when going back and forth. Which may or may not be a big deal, but I was a little bit annoyed when a document I was working on showed the title as the first line of the text in SO, when I had set it to something different in Word. Having said all that, I do find Star Office to be pretty useful, and I can, for the most part do my work in it. There are just some things that I need to do that are too tightly bound to other MS products, so I haven't been able to get rid of that FAT32 partition on my machine -- yet! I don't know for sure, but I have heard rumblings that the 6.x version of SO will load the applications separately, so that will cut down the start time, and amount of resources it consumes. At least in theory. --- Craig Sprout Network Administrator Crown Parts and Machine, Inc. http://www.crownpartsandmachine.com
Re: [expert] StarOffice
I've been using Star Office for somewhere around a year or so now, and I've been quite happy with the results. Star Office is.. well pretty compatible with MSOffice. There are small inconsistencies with Star Office's MS file format parsers. Generally it works quite well though. I highly recommend it. dave - Original Message - From: Neal Lippman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MandrakeExpert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 7:22 PM Subject: [expert] StarOffice Any users of StarOffice out there who can comment on it? I can really use something compatible with MS Word 2000; KWord just cannot cut it at this point and there really is no choice but to be compatible with the MS world from time to time, when I have to bring work home. Neal
Re: [expert] StarOffice
I have StarOffice 5.2 and have used it extensively. It is a good package but it is HUGE. It's one fault is simply that it has everything built into it so that when you start staroffice, you aren't simply starting the wordprocessor, but you are also starting the spreadsheet app, the graphics app, the presentation app, etc. I have used it quite a bit mainly because of its compatibilities with Word and other M$ office apps. The one shortcoming it has, in my book, which has since led me to use Lyx as my primary wordprocessor, is no citation/bibliography capability. With Word or Wordperfect (on windoze) you can buy EndNote and write nice research papers complete with citations and automagically generated bibliography pages. StarOffice cannot do this - any citations you make have to be hand-written and organized (a hideous proposition if you are citing many sources). The ONLY wordprocessing app for linux that can do essentially what the combo of Word and EndNote can do in windoze is Lyx with pybliographic or sixpack. It is this one thing that prevents me from using staroffice exclusively. I actually sent Sun a suggestion that they add a bibliography capability to StarOffice, and ultimately they did - sortof. It can handle only the bibliography part, via the builtin database, but it doesn't in any way, shape or form work the way EndNote does with Word or Wordperfect. The bibliographies you might create within the StarOffice suite cannot be used to auto-generate citations and reference pages. Anyway, the suite is good, works well. If you do not need to write papers requiring a lot of citations and reference pages, then it is more than adequate. Otherwise, I would suggest you take the time to learn how to work with Lyx and pybliographic. On Monday 23 April 2001 18:22, Neal Lippman wrote: Any users of StarOffice out there who can comment on it? I can really use something compatible with MS Word 2000; KWord just cannot cut it at this point and there really is no choice but to be compatible with the MS world from time to time, when I have to bring work home. Neal -- Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain.
Re: [expert] StarOffice
I use StarOffice at work in a dominant Win2000 domain. To be more specific, I use openoffice (6.9?) whatever was available in cooker @ rpmfind.net. Here are my comments on Star/OpenOffice: - General: Handles most word2000 formats very well - sometimes fubar's on large tables when going from open-word - from word-open it sometimes doesn't preserve all the macros, but in some complex template documents we use, I was very impressed in how it accurately preserved most of the word macros. Aj --- Neal Lippman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any users of StarOffice out there who can comment on it? I can really use something compatible with MS Word 2000; KWord just cannot cut it at this point and there really is no choice but to be compatible with the MS world from time to time, when I have to bring work home. Neal __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: [expert] StarOffice
I suppose just about anyone will tell you how slow and bloated StarOffice is, but, IMHO, it does do the job. SO5.2 does a fairly good job of importing and exporting MS Word and Excel filessome of the fancier formatting features may not always carry over perfectly, but it does an exemplary job considering MS no doubt gives no aid to its competitors. The only way you're going to know if it meets your needs is to try it. Do read the README that comes with the installation prior to actually installing, it will save you some frustration on the install. The other tricky parts come with getting SO to recognize imported TrueType fonts, Java compatibility (I think it only works with 1.1.8), and maybe a few other quirks, but most of these have solutions on the Web if you search around. Again, a little more effort on the install, but if you want to use a free, fairly Windows file-compatible office suite that has 'industrial-grade' functionality, you may want to give StarOffice a try. Tom Neal Lippman wrote: Any users of StarOffice out there who can comment on it? I can really use something compatible with MS Word 2000; KWord just cannot cut it at this point and there really is no choice but to be compatible with the MS world from time to time, when I have to bring work home. Neal
[expert] StarOffice Printing Smudgy -- Solved!
Dear friends: Just solved the StarOffice smugdy printing problem with the help of StarOffice tech support ($25 per incident). Well worth it. It took a good half hour to figure it out. You need to use the Printer Setup on the Desktop (NOT the Printer Setup under File), then click on "Match settings locally" at the bottom right corner, then install your printer driver (or compatible driver -- in my case, HP LaserJet 4, which is 100% compatible with my Okipage 10e printer), then close down StarOffice, then reopen it, go back to the Desktop Printer Setup, remove the Generic driver, press OK, and that's it. It will then print clearly and professionally. Well worth the $25. Sometimes you just have to go the source. Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net
[expert] StarOffice Printing Smudgy -- Solution?
Dear friends: Using LM7.2. I am having no problems printing in Linux. My Linux print test during installation passed with flying colors (actually with flying black and white colors, since I print only in black). Yet, when I try to print in StarOffice 5.2 (any font -- Times New Roman or Courier, etc.), the print is smudgy. It was OK in the past. I have no idea why this is happening. I have just reinstalled LM7.2 fresh, after completely formatting everything. One other thing: In one of my earlier installations of StarOffice, I was able to configure Star Office to use my Okipage 10e LaserPrinter driver. That is, under printers, if you opened it up, you saw not only the Generic printer driver but also a driver for Okipage 10e (which is specifically supported by LM72. Unfortunately, I cannot seem to retrace my steps. All I remember is that I created this printer option within StarOffice using the StarOffice Printer Setup. I have been unable to retrace my steps. I know that is not supposed to be possible since my printer is a NON-Postscript printer and normally uses Ghostscript. At any rate, I had no problem for years printing clearly and professionaly from StarOffice 5.1 and 5.2 using the Generic printer. Is this an LM72 issue? Would really appreciate your help. Thanks so much. Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net
[expert] StarOffice Printing Smudgy -- footnote
Dear friends: I should have mentioned that my printer prints with perfect clarity in Abiword and Kword and in Netscape. So, apparently, this is a StarOffice 52 issue. Thank you so much. Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net
Re: [expert] StarOffice Printing Smudgy -- Solution?
Benjamin Sher wrote: Dear friends: Using LM7.2. I am having no problems printing in Linux. My Linux print test during installation passed with flying colors (actually with flying black and white colors, since I print only in black). Yet, when I try to print in StarOffice 5.2 (any font -- Times New Roman or Courier, etc.), the print is smudgy. It was OK in the past. I have no idea why this is happening. I have just reinstalled LM7.2 fresh, after completely formatting everything. One other thing: In one of my earlier installations of StarOffice, I was able to configure Star Office to use my Okipage 10e LaserPrinter driver. That is, under printers, if you opened it up, you saw not only the Generic printer driver but also a driver for Okipage 10e (which is specifically supported by LM72. Unfortunately, I cannot seem to retrace my steps. All I remember is that I created this printer option within StarOffice using the StarOffice Printer Setup. I have been unable to retrace my steps. I know that is not supposed to be possible since my printer is a NON-Postscript printer and normally uses Ghostscript. At any rate, I had no problem for years printing clearly and professionaly from StarOffice 5.1 and 5.2 using the Generic printer. Is this an LM72 issue? Would really appreciate your help. Thanks so much. Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net I'm not much of a printer tech, but I do hang out with one:) Is this a dual-boot pc? In other words, does it *currently* print clearly in other applications/OSs? It's possible it's a hardware problem as opposed to software. I've seen stuff like that before, he cleaned/PM'd the machine, or replaced the drum(?). And we've had problems with that kind of problem specifically w/ the Okipage 10e's, as a few of our customers have them onsite. -- Joseph Red [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.cautioninc.com
Re: [expert] StarOffice Printing Smudgy -- Solution?
Dear Joseph: Thanks so much for the info about Okipage 10e. You are probably right. I'll try to find out how to clean the drum (and if necessary replace it). Thanks again. Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net
[expert] StarOffice to Interbase with JDBC : HowTo ?
Hello forum ! StarOffice to Interbase with JDBC : HowTo ? Any experiences ? Tx ... Cavall_forT Linux Català http://perso.wanadoo.es/cavall_fort BCN CAT __ Consigue tu cuenta de correo universal y gratuita en http://webmail.wanadoo.es
Re: [expert] StarOffice Mailing List?
SoloCDM wrote: If you know of a mailing list for StarOffice, would you send me the URL? Send an email with Subject: 'subscribe' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note: When you reply to this message, please include the mailing list and my email address. No. Declined. -- Regards, Ron. [AU] Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] StarOffice Mailing List?
Yes, that is the idea. Hopefully they will be able to bring the memory footprint down. I have tried the 6.05 beta release, which does away with the Desktop (it starts up in Star Writer) Buchan Larry Marshall wrote: Mike MacCana wrote: That's true [both projects contain some unique code], but StarOffice, in terms of future development, is essentially dead. So feature requests [and perhaps also bug reports] should be directed towards openoffice. Mike...is the OpenOffice group planning on separating the apps from the "all in one" concept, at least such that they can be loaded separately from an OpenOffice desktop? Cheers --- Larry Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. -- |--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone +27824722231 email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Centre for Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za South Africas first satellite:http://sunsat.ee.sun.ac.za Control Models http://www.control.co.za |Registered Linux User #182071-| Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
[expert] StarOffice Mailing List?
If you know of a mailing list for StarOffice, would you send me the URL? Note: When you reply to this message, please include the mailing list and my email address. * Signed, SoloCDM Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] StarOffice Mailing List?
StarOffice is now OpenOffice, so feature requests and comments, as well as bug reports should go to one of the lists at openoffice.org. I'm not sure if Sun [www.sun.com] still maintain StarOffice lists, or everythings converted into OpenOffice, butSun definitely do have a support for StarOffice 5.x section on their website. Mike -- Mike MacCanaSupport Consultant C Y B E R S O U R C E Level 9, 140 Queen St Melbourne 3000 Ph : +61 3 9642 5997 Fax: +61 3 9642 5998 On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, SoloCDM wrote: If you know of a mailing list for StarOffice, would you send me the URL? Note: When you reply to this message, please include the mailing list and my email address. * Signed, SoloCDM Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] StarOffice Mailing List?
On Wednesday 06 December 2000 04:07 am, you wrote: If you know of a mailing list for StarOffice, would you send me the URL? Note: When you reply to this message, please include the mailing list and my email address. There is a support forum (and a good one I might add) listed on the StarOffice web site. -- Ken Thompson Electrocom Computer Services Payette, Idaho (208) 642-7101 (888) 642-7101 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.nwaa.com Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] StarOffice Mailing List?
Mike MacCana wrote: StarOffice is now OpenOffice, so feature requests and comments, as well as bug reports should go to one of the lists at openoffice.org. Don't confuse StarOffice with OpenOffice. OpenOffice contains StarOffice code, but they're still different things. -Stephen- Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] StarOffice Mailing List?
That's true [both projects contain some unique code], but StarOffice, in terms of future development, is essentially dead. So feature requests [and perhaps also bug reports] should be directed towards openoffice. Mike On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, Stephen Bosch wrote: Mike MacCana wrote: StarOffice is now OpenOffice, so feature requests and comments, as well as bug reports should go to one of the lists at openoffice.org. Don't confuse StarOffice with OpenOffice. OpenOffice contains StarOffice code, but they're still different things. -Stephen- Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] StarOffice Mailing List?
Mike MacCana wrote: That's true [both projects contain some unique code], but StarOffice, in terms of future development, is essentially dead. So feature requests [and perhaps also bug reports] should be directed towards openoffice. Mike...is the OpenOffice group planning on separating the apps from the "all in one" concept, at least such that they can be loaded separately from an OpenOffice desktop? Cheers --- Larry Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] StarOffice Mailing List?
On Wednesday 06 December 2000 06:07, you wrote: If you know of a mailing list for StarOffice, would you send me the URL? There are several on egroups, take a look at http://www.egroups.com/group/star-linux http://www.egroups.com/group/starofficeusers http://www.egroups.com/group/SO-L Sun also has a public news server at starnews.sun.com for star office questions and support -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life) Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
[expert] Staroffice over nfs network
Hi, I have a NIS/NFS network running Mdk 7.1. I tried to install StarOffice 5.2 for my users, so I installed SO (with /net option) in /opt/office52 and chmod -R a+rx this folder, both on the server machine and the client.. I can use it without any problem with users whose home folder reside on the computer used to run SO. In any other cases, either SO fails when I run the set-up script (just after the "no java environment box) if the script is run over from a home mounted through NFS or when I run /opt/office52/program/soffice if I set-up first SO from a login in the server machine and try to run if after from a NIS/NFS login. I am all the more surprised as I can run Win apps remotely with Wine (and isn't Star Office a win app run with WineLib??) Any advice? Would I be better with SO 5.1 or open Office. I do need it to convainc my boss to run all the network with linux. TIA Alain. Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] StarOffice 5.2 won't print under Mandrake 7.2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format... =_973483165-6208-366 Hi, Has anyone noticed that StarOffice no longer prints after upgrading to Mandrake 7.2? All my other apps can print, but StarOffice only acts like it - nothing comes out. How can this be fixed? Stop Star Office, log in as root, start /opt/office52/program/spadmin, click on "Connect", edit the entry under "Existing queues" replacing "lpr" by "xpp", click "OK", click "Close" and you have done it. When you start Star Office again, you get the xpp window when you click on "OK" in the printing dialog of Star Office. Choose the desired printer, set up options for your printout, and click on "Print" to print. Till Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] StarOffice 5.2 won't print under Mandrake 7.2
Doesn't 7.2 use a different print setup than lpr? If so, you need to run spadmin as root, and change the lines that specify how StarOffice prints for your various printers. Stew Benedict On Mon, 6 Nov 2000, Dennis Robertson wrote: On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 04:01:08AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Has anyone noticed that StarOffice no longer prints after upgrading to Mandrake 7.2? All my other apps can print, but StarOffice only acts like it - nothing comes out. How can this be fixed? Wish I knew. I hope someone has an answer soon. Cheers. -- Dennis Robertson 2/2 Sylvia Street NOOSAVILLE QLD 4566 Phone: 61 7 54742343 Mob: 0419 535539 Auction: A gyp off the old block. Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] StarOffice 5.2 won't print under Mandrake 7.2
On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 09:33:12AM +, Nathan wrote: I assume you guys are using the CUPS printing service. I managed to work out how to get Star Office to print eventually, by changing the que to "lp", rather than "lpr", the page size to A4, and the resolution to 360dpi so it matched the printer settings (may differ for your printer). You might want to use SPAdmin to alter these permanently, or you can "save changes locally" in the users printer setup under SO52. Older documents may hold the older printer settings - the default SO printer settings are in .Xpdefaults. Nathan, Works for me. Many thanks. -- Dennis Robertson 2/2 Sylvia Street NOOSAVILLE QLD 4566 Phone: 61 7 54742343 Mob: 0419 535539 It is Mr. Mellon's credo that $200,000,000 can do no wrong. Our offense consists in doubting it. -- Justice Robert H. Jackson Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] StarOffice 5.2 won't print under Mandrake 7.2
I assume you guys are using the CUPS printing service. I managed to work out how to get Star Office to print eventually, by changing the que to "lp", rather than "lpr", the page size to A4, and the resolution to 360dpi so it matched the printer settings (may differ for your printer). You might want to use SPAdmin to alter these permanently, or you can "save changes locally" in the users printer setup under SO52. Older documents may hold the older printer settings - the default SO printer settings are in .Xpdefaults. Gn@ On Monday 06 November 2000 08:02, Dennis Robertson wrote: On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 04:01:08AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Has anyone noticed that StarOffice no longer prints after upgrading to Mandrake 7.2? All my other apps can print, but StarOffice only acts like it - nothing comes out. How can this be fixed? Wish I knew. I hope someone has an answer soon. Cheers. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; name="message.footer" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] StarOffice 5.2 won't print under Mandrake 7.2
On Monday 06 November 2000 03:02, Dennis Robertson wrote: On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 04:01:08AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Has anyone noticed that StarOffice no longer prints after upgrading to Mandrake 7.2? All my other apps can print, but StarOffice only acts like it - nothing comes out. How can this be fixed? Wish I knew. I hope someone has an answer soon. Cheers. I printed numorous pictures last night off my digi camera for relatives. To be sure I was correct, I just created a document in SO 5.2 and printed it.. Mine works fine... No problems.. MDK 7.2. My printer ( if it matters ) is a HP 895Cse, immedialy recognized by Mdk.. Alan -- +++ Coming to you from Linux-Mandrake 7.2 and/or BeOS. No windows involved +++ Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] StarOffice 5.2 won't print under Mandrake 7.2
On Sunday 05 November 2000 23:01, you wrote: much deleted. I just printed a document from SO 5.2 last night under Mdk 7.2.. No problems here.. Alan -- +++ Coming to you from Linux-Mandrake 7.2 and/or BeOS. No windows involved +++ Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
[expert] StarOffice 5.2 won't print under Mandrake 7.2
Hi, Has anyone noticed that StarOffice no longer prints after upgrading to Mandrake 7.2? All my other apps can print, but StarOffice only acts like it - nothing comes out. How can this be fixed? Thanks! [EMAIL PROTECTED] Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] StarOffice 5.2 won't print under Mandrake 7.2
On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 04:01:08AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Has anyone noticed that StarOffice no longer prints after upgrading to Mandrake 7.2? All my other apps can print, but StarOffice only acts like it - nothing comes out. How can this be fixed? Wish I knew. I hope someone has an answer soon. Cheers. -- Dennis Robertson 2/2 Sylvia Street NOOSAVILLE QLD 4566 Phone: 61 7 54742343 Mob: 0419 535539 Auction: A gyp off the old block. Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] StarOffice - Serial Number
If you have downloaded the latest star office from their web site, click on the "I have already registered" button. It won't bother you any more. If you havent' downloaed the latest, there are some guidelines on the www.sun.com site to tell you how to get around this. I've seen them, but don't know where they are at the moment. The 5.2 version has a LOT of fixes. I recommend downloading it. On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Pedro Cardoso wrote: Hi! Anyone can help me with Star Office Serial Number ? I have star office, and I have registered my package at the Sun site. But I don't have received the Registration key.
[expert] StarOffice - Serial Number
Hi! Anyone can help me with Star Office Serial Number ? I have star office, and I have registered my package at the Sun site. But I don't have received the Registration key. Can you help me ? -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: PGPfreeware 6.0.2i mQGiBDlDzggRBADtMg2hoIpB7NZfWrMPja4H2aXayqtqwCoJPnfLL+qSFOksY4bk jtHA798eqmOyIpHWgBOJuL2N+Jcw1OH0xaSM3krUkwLZ3F7cMmoQhEOnIsCMBkuj l7ppcq0ZnCrm1qCf+oCegTA8wNsXgXiNXvxpDhquTBXI8GPMMtT41aGngwCg/8HX GurTARux1HOvybENmIyumHED/1+k5KG3Tgly6f0y+kxNYycALL3Tph6NEoW0n3Sl lyHL+JcWDNg1OecZ4siu1AcDIMMcGzRPx/Vwpqsls9W4vhTeADUUIHUF0NMCNOzr rcD2KzQjJy6eVadpLL3uQQC5oCVa0hrhFxfwYL3txIjjdSb584c/zcz5eSNiLXz6 XEcOA/9V4ZJkubVbmJCoFQTDZha7DA+13N2yeeEKJubn4WdcuU7uvx8GWZaj/w7T 7YkEuO23t53RHLmCRL2/yadqyJntsYVxjx2jvbBaT+jpZ+/6c4IpMKf9WMvc4EZ1 htcecCVzSUjgN7thJ79/a1znE864CgGUJl1esM/Gai1UijlEFbQvUGVkcm8gTWFu dWVsIENhcmRvc28gPHBlZHJvLmNhcmRvc29AaG90cG9wLmNvbT6JAEsEEBECAAsF AjlDzggECwMCAQAKCRCYLVBDFx1mWH12AKDIxZuElF03JP+M1HUZGPg/DsbrtACd HBgQOq7tRHd0zidH1Ehg5DUPCn+5AQ0EOUPOChAEAPQs14Ubj/yf8obCFeZaNxRm KBU54ecjjulFwNRaxUhxnlDa3YZ3gYORIoXZfNEXhOoYgpT/hfkOk/bCDn+MxCO1 uInsq+iOPeU0kRjlNTq/ueMGkkLeBPgTg+3wfTNsDddexvU3fiWZXKup+wzOTifr bgLL5u7Pg8KMdpWIa4ojAAICA/9vzAdmQLHEPGz88GQT1+vwCe69dSqfn3F2jlji Crh7QkOEP434dUd5TUYHr4lU7frk6L/2noQf/0+Pd2o6Ps0FiQISmU90Oeht2j8I u8oSbvFh6IP7ixNaCNQgQjUmolWXY7mMthXWJydGrlErfdA1O5I7EMD2idPwIp4N oC0wHIkARgQYEQIABgUCOUPOCgAKCRCYLVBDFx1mWET8AJ991yV41BHhkrsV0e4m 2h1N65DvSwCgrioQED8iC1PdHPY6wZC9S43LwAU= =HCyC -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-
Re: [expert] StarOffice - Serial Number
serial for star office ?!?!?! which version are you using ? i got 5.1 and no registration was required anytime during installation or use of So. maybe you got some kind of a beta or something ? Pedro Cardoso wrote: Hi! Anyone can help me with Star Office Serial Number ? I have star office, and I have registered my package at the Sun site. But I don't have received the Registration key. Can you help me ? -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: PGPfreeware 6.0.2i mQGiBDlDzggRBADtMg2hoIpB7NZfWrMPja4H2aXayqtqwCoJPnfLL+qSFOksY4bk jtHA798eqmOyIpHWgBOJuL2N+Jcw1OH0xaSM3krUkwLZ3F7cMmoQhEOnIsCMBkuj l7ppcq0ZnCrm1qCf+oCegTA8wNsXgXiNXvxpDhquTBXI8GPMMtT41aGngwCg/8HX GurTARux1HOvybENmIyumHED/1+k5KG3Tgly6f0y+kxNYycALL3Tph6NEoW0n3Sl lyHL+JcWDNg1OecZ4siu1AcDIMMcGzRPx/Vwpqsls9W4vhTeADUUIHUF0NMCNOzr rcD2KzQjJy6eVadpLL3uQQC5oCVa0hrhFxfwYL3txIjjdSb584c/zcz5eSNiLXz6 XEcOA/9V4ZJkubVbmJCoFQTDZha7DA+13N2yeeEKJubn4WdcuU7uvx8GWZaj/w7T 7YkEuO23t53RHLmCRL2/yadqyJntsYVxjx2jvbBaT+jpZ+/6c4IpMKf9WMvc4EZ1 htcecCVzSUjgN7thJ79/a1znE864CgGUJl1esM/Gai1UijlEFbQvUGVkcm8gTWFu dWVsIENhcmRvc28gPHBlZHJvLmNhcmRvc29AaG90cG9wLmNvbT6JAEsEEBECAAsF AjlDzggECwMCAQAKCRCYLVBDFx1mWH12AKDIxZuElF03JP+M1HUZGPg/DsbrtACd HBgQOq7tRHd0zidH1Ehg5DUPCn+5AQ0EOUPOChAEAPQs14Ubj/yf8obCFeZaNxRm KBU54ecjjulFwNRaxUhxnlDa3YZ3gYORIoXZfNEXhOoYgpT/hfkOk/bCDn+MxCO1 uInsq+iOPeU0kRjlNTq/ueMGkkLeBPgTg+3wfTNsDddexvU3fiWZXKup+wzOTifr bgLL5u7Pg8KMdpWIa4ojAAICA/9vzAdmQLHEPGz88GQT1+vwCe69dSqfn3F2jlji Crh7QkOEP434dUd5TUYHr4lU7frk6L/2noQf/0+Pd2o6Ps0FiQISmU90Oeht2j8I u8oSbvFh6IP7ixNaCNQgQjUmolWXY7mMthXWJydGrlErfdA1O5I7EMD2idPwIp4N oC0wHIkARgQYEQIABgUCOUPOCgAKCRCYLVBDFx1mWET8AJ991yV41BHhkrsV0e4m 2h1N65DvSwCgrioQED8iC1PdHPY6wZC9S43LwAU= =HCyC -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- -- --- _|_|_ Best Regard's , ( ) * Amir Tal, /v\ / System Administrator /( )XIntercomp Ltd. (m_m) | |ICQ : 15748705 | (_)_ __ Office : 09-9526993. | | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / | | | | | | |_| | |_)_|_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\ ---
