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Well, I simply forgot it: I never used it. Olaf At 23.59 21/12/2002, you wrote: > it seems both are able to do so) to move all the incoming mail to > your local imap server. how is this better than putting the mail into a local file-system hierarchy? ** Configuration: Celeron 400 chipset sis620, 224 MB ram cas2, 40 GB HD IBM GXP 60, integrated audio CMI 8738, integrated ethernet davicom901A, PCI Vodoo Banshee 16MB (plus the sis 620 integrated in the chipset, actually disabled), LG 8080B CD-RW. hda1 NTFS 8 GB W2K, Reiser for /, Reiser for /home. Mandrake 9 download edition. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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021220 Jack Coates wrote: > I gave up using mutt because the config file was a monolithic cruftpile > on the order of sendmail.cf or procmailrc, > a reason at which mutt aficionados will only sneer. i hope none of us sneer (tries not to). .muttrc is really very rational when read in conjunction with help dox: Mutt doesn't try to do everything for you & then fail, but leaves you to do your part by reading the dox first & editing .muttrc , then once you've taken the trouble to do that, it's very simple & reliable. but as you say, to each his own ... (tries to make it a grin) -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban & Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Sat, 2002-12-21 at 12:41, Olaf Marzocchi wrote: > I have the same feelings for IMAP ;-))), but think about this solution (I > plan to implement it by the end of 2003, when I'll have an ADSL > connection): you set an imap4 server in you pc and you use a combination of > fetchmail, procmail (question: should I use procmail to filter mails or > sendmail? depends on who's using the system -- for local use like this, it doesn't matter. If you have multiple users, you should keep the MTA to low-level stuff and do user-specific filtering in procmail. > it seems both are able to do so) to move all the incoming mail to > your local imap server. how is this better than putting the mail into a local file-system hierarchy? > > By doing so you'll be able to mix the benefits of imap4 (you can read mail > whewrever you are) and traditional mail clients (you have mails all in your > desktop). > > Olaf > > Think different; > Innovate > > At 07.12 21/12/2002, you wrote: > > >[1] The thing I dislike about IMAP is its fundamental design and reason > >for existence, which is the idea that my mail should stay on the server > >and get copied to my client. If I want the mail to stay on the server, > >I'll leave it there in an mbox or maildir and access it with a local > >client over an encrypted tunnel. If I want it on my desktop, I want it > >to get here as fast as possible and be deleted from the server because > >it's no longer necessary there. This design problem leads to all the > >implementation problems of IMAP: SLOWness, lack of integration with > >local folder structures, and muddling of GUIs for rule-creation, mass > >copy or delete, etc. > >-- > >Jack Coates > >Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... > > > for every kind of mail, except spam! :-) > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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I have the same feelings for IMAP ;-))), but think about this solution (I plan to implement it by the end of 2003, when I'll have an ADSL connection): you set an imap4 server in you pc and you use a combination of fetchmail, procmail (question: should I use procmail to filter mails or sendmail? it seems both are able to do so) to move all the incoming mail to your local imap server. By doing so you'll be able to mix the benefits of imap4 (you can read mail whewrever you are) and traditional mail clients (you have mails all in your desktop). Olaf Think different; Innovate At 07.12 21/12/2002, you wrote: [1] The thing I dislike about IMAP is its fundamental design and reason for existence, which is the idea that my mail should stay on the server and get copied to my client. If I want the mail to stay on the server, I'll leave it there in an mbox or maildir and access it with a local client over an encrypted tunnel. If I want it on my desktop, I want it to get here as fast as possible and be deleted from the server because it's no longer necessary there. This design problem leads to all the implementation problems of IMAP: SLOWness, lack of integration with local folder structures, and muddling of GUIs for rule-creation, mass copy or delete, etc. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... for every kind of mail, except spam! :-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Steffen, I'm actually reading this mail with Eudora in winxp (my linux box doesn't have an internet connection) and it beautifully work. This "mailbox" is about 11000 mails big. Eudora has improved. However, I'm reading this thread very happily because is a sort of religion war :-) and I'll have to deal with it in the future. I WANT to have a connection to the net with my linux box! Olaf At 12.52 19/12/2002, you wrote: On Thursday 19 December 2002 12:00, Praedor Atrebates wrote: > On Thursday 19 December 2002 02:31 am, Guy Van Sanden wrote: > > That is very strange... > > Although I use Evolution, both my wife and my mother are running Kmail, > > my wife has to see a crash yet. > > My mother did have prolbems with the kmail package build by SuSE (it was > > the KDE 3.0.4 upgrade). The RPM's from the KDE site worked fine > > however. > > Yes. I have tried other mail clients and have always gone back to Kmail. > It has never ever crashed on me or given me any problems. I have also used > pine, evolution (yuck...and no way to order mail by date?), mozilla mail, > and sylpheed (pretty good). > > Something is not right with your system or rpm build, not the software > (Kmail) per se. > Yes I have to second that ! I have in my opinion a really high load on Emails due to mailinglists, and I had never problems with kmail. I think I have a current Email archiv of over 20.000 messages (I don't want delete them, often some usefull informations are in old mail). I have used eudora und several other clients under win and all of them failed on such a big archive. So I am pretty surprised to hear kmail not to be stable. Greets Steffen for every kind of mail, except spam! :-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Fri, 2002-12-20 at 18:36, Toshiro wrote: > > > Yes. I have tried other mail clients and have always gone back to Kmail. > > > It has never ever crashed on me or given me any problems. I have also > > > used pine, evolution (yuck...and no way to order mail by date?), > > > > don't know what beta you were on, but 1.0.2 orders by date by default. > > Also supports threading and has a pretty nifty search function. > > > > Well, the handling of threads in Evolution sucks (to say the least); have you > tried to delete the first mail of a thread? when you do that, the cursor > moves to wherever it wishes (instead of positioning in the next unread > mail). > Actually it just selects the next message in the thread, using 1.0.8[3mdk]. I've never used any Evolution version pre-1.0, and I've never seen any of the things people have been complaining about in this thread. I do know it's not a very good IMAP client, but this doesn't affect me as I think IMAP is a rather sucky[1] protocol and I don't use it. I've also had some instability in each of the Evolution modules, but it's always been limited to that module -- I just get a little popup stating that Contacts unexpectedly quit, or I can't view the summary page. oaf-slay fixes it. I will unequivocally state that the evolution-pilot conduits suck rocks, to the point of actively being worse than having no synchronization capability at all. Jpilot is the only way to realistically manage PalmOS in my experience, which is a shame (Jpilot is great, but nonintegration of your PDA with other contacts and calendar is an issue). > The very bad handling of threads is the reason I quit using Evolution. > To each his own -- I gave up using mutt because the config file was a monolithic cruftpile on the order of sendmail.cf or procmailrc, a reason at which mutt aficionados will only sneer. I gave up on kmail because it would grab duplicate copies of mail from the local /var/spool/mail/user and had zero integration with kpilot (a pile of junk in its own right at the time). KDE fans will leap to assure me that it's all fixed now and if it isn't I can surely rearrange my needs to meet kmail's requirements :-) [1] The thing I dislike about IMAP is its fundamental design and reason for existence, which is the idea that my mail should stay on the server and get copied to my client. If I want the mail to stay on the server, I'll leave it there in an mbox or maildir and access it with a local client over an encrypted tunnel. If I want it on my desktop, I want it to get here as fast as possible and be deleted from the server because it's no longer necessary there. This design problem leads to all the implementation problems of IMAP: SLOWness, lack of integration with local folder structures, and muddling of GUIs for rule-creation, mass copy or delete, etc. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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> > Yes. I have tried other mail clients and have always gone back to Kmail. > > It has never ever crashed on me or given me any problems. I have also > > used pine, evolution (yuck...and no way to order mail by date?), > > don't know what beta you were on, but 1.0.2 orders by date by default. > Also supports threading and has a pretty nifty search function. > Well, the handling of threads in Evolution sucks (to say the least); have you tried to delete the first mail of a thread? when you do that, the cursor moves to wherever it wishes (instead of positioning in the next unread mail). The very bad handling of threads is the reason I quit using Evolution. -- Toshiro Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 19 December 2002 10:22 am, Narfi Stefansson wrote: > On Thursday 19 December 2002 05:00, Praedor Atrebates wrote: > > On Thursday 19 December 2002 02:31 am, Guy Van Sanden wrote: > > > That is very strange... > > > Although I use Evolution, both my wife and my mother are running Kmail, > > > my wife has to see a crash yet. [...] > > Yes. I have tried other mail clients and have always gone back to Kmail. > > It has never ever crashed on me or given me any problems. I have also > > used pine, evolution (yuck...and no way to order mail by date?), mozilla > > mail, and sylpheed (pretty good). > > > > Something is not right with your system or rpm build, not the software > > (Kmail) per se. [...] > Didn't the original poster say that he had a large number of IMAP accounts? > I have only 2 imap accounts and I find it trivial to crash kmail while it > is communicating with the imap server. [...] OK, this does look to be a bug. It should be reported as such to kde.org. I don't do imap anymore and when I did, it was just one account. I run my own mailserver locally (and fetchmail to a pop3) so I never see problems. I also never saw problems before I ran my own mailserver and simply accessed pop3 accounts. This is a bug to be reported rather than simply discarding kmail in silence - has it been reported by others? praedor -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE+AeXqmkm5RO1gX9cRAvWqAJ48SGDr4Ff2A6ETq6T9wT8C7kiA8QCdH4jR 8hXgeLUiRaI6GHiCsTFsfqA= =rBwb -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Thursday 19 December 2002 05:00, Praedor Atrebates wrote: > On Thursday 19 December 2002 02:31 am, Guy Van Sanden wrote: > > That is very strange... > > Although I use Evolution, both my wife and my mother are running Kmail, > > my wife has to see a crash yet. > > My mother did have prolbems with the kmail package build by SuSE (it was > > the KDE 3.0.4 upgrade). The RPM's from the KDE site worked fine > > however. > > Yes. I have tried other mail clients and have always gone back to Kmail. > It has never ever crashed on me or given me any problems. I have also used > pine, evolution (yuck...and no way to order mail by date?), mozilla mail, > and sylpheed (pretty good). > > Something is not right with your system or rpm build, not the software > (Kmail) per se. > > praedor Didn't the original poster say that he had a large number of IMAP accounts? I have only 2 imap accounts and I find it trivial to crash kmail while it is communicating with the imap server. If I make sure to let one imap operations finish before starting the next, it is rather stable, but if I accidentally give 2 imap operations in a row, it is very likely that kmail crashes. Narfi. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 03:00, Praedor Atrebates wrote: > On Thursday 19 December 2002 02:31 am, Guy Van Sanden wrote: > > That is very strange... > > Although I use Evolution, both my wife and my mother are running Kmail, > > my wife has to see a crash yet. > > My mother did have prolbems with the kmail package build by SuSE (it was > > the KDE 3.0.4 upgrade). The RPM's from the KDE site worked fine > > however. > > Yes. I have tried other mail clients and have always gone back to Kmail. It > has never ever crashed on me or given me any problems. I have also used > pine, evolution (yuck...and no way to order mail by date?), don't know what beta you were on, but 1.0.2 orders by date by default. Also supports threading and has a pretty nifty search function. > mozilla mail, and > sylpheed (pretty good). > > Something is not right with your system or rpm build, not the software (Kmail) > per se. > > praedor > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Thursday 19 December 2002 12:00, Praedor Atrebates wrote: > On Thursday 19 December 2002 02:31 am, Guy Van Sanden wrote: > > That is very strange... > > Although I use Evolution, both my wife and my mother are running Kmail, > > my wife has to see a crash yet. > > My mother did have prolbems with the kmail package build by SuSE (it was > > the KDE 3.0.4 upgrade). The RPM's from the KDE site worked fine > > however. > > Yes. I have tried other mail clients and have always gone back to Kmail. > It has never ever crashed on me or given me any problems. I have also used > pine, evolution (yuck...and no way to order mail by date?), mozilla mail, > and sylpheed (pretty good). > > Something is not right with your system or rpm build, not the software > (Kmail) per se. > Yes I have to second that ! I have in my opinion a really high load on Emails due to mailinglists, and I had never problems with kmail. I think I have a current Email archiv of over 20.000 messages (I don't want delete them, often some usefull informations are in old mail). I have used eudora und several other clients under win and all of them failed on such a big archive. So I am pretty surprised to hear kmail not to be stable. Greets Steffen -- counter.li.org : #296567. machine: 181800 vdr-box : 87 Please dont CC me, since if I have replied I'll watch the tread. Both mails will be filtered to the ML-folder. Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Thursday 19 December 2002 02:31 am, Guy Van Sanden wrote: > That is very strange... > Although I use Evolution, both my wife and my mother are running Kmail, > my wife has to see a crash yet. > My mother did have prolbems with the kmail package build by SuSE (it was > the KDE 3.0.4 upgrade). The RPM's from the KDE site worked fine > however. Yes. I have tried other mail clients and have always gone back to Kmail. It has never ever crashed on me or given me any problems. I have also used pine, evolution (yuck...and no way to order mail by date?), mozilla mail, and sylpheed (pretty good). Something is not right with your system or rpm build, not the software (Kmail) per se. praedor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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That is very strange... Although I use Evolution, both my wife and my mother are running Kmail, my wife has to see a crash yet. My mother did have prolbems with the kmail package build by SuSE (it was the KDE 3.0.4 upgrade). The RPM's from the KDE site worked fine however. Kind regards Guy On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 00:02, Vasiliy Boulytchev wrote: > I will try Mutt. My kmail crashed every day, with no sideaffects, > luckily, so I am ready for new stuff. Netscapes mail client looks > pretty, anything I should know about before tossing 20 IMAP accounts > onto netscape? hehe > > Philip Webb wrote: > > 021218 Vasiliy Boulytchev wrote: > > > > > Other than Kmail and trash like that, is there FINALLY a good mail client > > > anyone using? I am dying here guys :(. > > > I hope eudora grabs this open and empty market. > > > > > > > like many people, i use & recommend Mutt, which is simple & powerful. > > of course, if you've got to have a GUI like dowslosers ... (smile) > > > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > -- Guy Van Sanden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
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This time Vasiliy Boulytchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> becomes daring and writes: > Ladies and Gents, > Other than Kmail and trash like that, is there FINALLY a good mail client > anyone using? I am dying here guys :(. I hope eudora grabs this open and > empty market. If you want a powerful mail client, nothing beats gnus. On the other hand, you *have* to learn elisp to be able to do anything meaningful with gnus, but...what's another scripting/programming language? :) There's nothing you can't do with it, as long as you know elisp :) Vox -- Think of the Linux community as a niche economy isolated by its beliefs. Kind of like the Amish, except that our religion requires us to use _higher_ technology than everyone else. -- Donald B. Marti Jr. msg63001/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
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I will try Mutt. My kmail crashed every day, with no sideaffects, luckily, so I am ready for new stuff. Netscapes mail client looks pretty, anything I should know about before tossing 20 IMAP accounts onto netscape? hehe Philip Webb wrote: 021218 Vasiliy Boulytchev wrote: Other than Kmail and trash like that, is there FINALLY a good mail client anyone using? I am dying here guys :(. I hope eudora grabs this open and empty market. like many people, i use & recommend Mutt, which is simple & powerful. of course, if you've got to have a GUI like dowslosers ... (smile) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 05:31:46PM -0500, Philip Webb wrote: > 021218 Vasiliy Boulytchev wrote: > > Other than Kmail and trash like that, is there FINALLY a good mail client > > anyone using? I am dying here guys :(. > > I hope eudora grabs this open and empty market. > > like many people, i use & recommend Mutt, which is simple & powerful. > of course, if you've got to have a GUI like dowslosers ... (smile) jepp, agree with that. mutt is THE opensource mailer. goes easy with gpg and has a lot of mailinglist features. go4it. have phun ; miLosh -- DONT ATTACK IRAQ !!! this message was sent by: +--+ |.::|[ The pleXus Network ]|::.| +--+ www:plexus.shacknet.nu | ftp:plexus.shacknet.nu +---+ irc:plexus.shacknet.nu:6667 channel: #nocturne | +--+---+ pub 1024D/C944D699 miLosh (pleXus) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> \_ Key fingerprint = 18FB 24BA 77A8 813F 6A8C F67B C08C 5A76 C944 D699 \ +--+ msg62998/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
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021218 Vasiliy Boulytchev wrote: > Other than Kmail and trash like that, is there FINALLY a good mail client > anyone using? I am dying here guys :(. > I hope eudora grabs this open and empty market. like many people, i use & recommend Mutt, which is simple & powerful. of course, if you've got to have a GUI like dowslosers ... (smile) -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban & Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 07:25 am, Vasiliy Boulytchev wrote: > Ladies and Gents, > Other than Kmail and trash like that, is there FINALLY a good mail client > anyone using? I am dying here guys :(. I hope eudora grabs this open and > empty market. Hello, [checks mail headers] You're using KMail 1.4.3 as well! I'm quite happy with it, and obviously it works for you as well. If you're new from windows and dying for your Outlook Express, then use Ximian Evolution. I take it you wouldn't be happy with PINE (licencing problems anyway) or MAPLE, which are text-based. Mozilla as someone else suggested might suit you. And don't even bother checking MY X-Mailer. It's Outlook Expresss 9.50.NET. Cheers and regards, _nasturtium Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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I use Mozilla Mail happily every day. I find it perfect for my needs with excellent filter functionality. What exactly are you looking for in your perfect mail client? I used to use Eudora and find Mozilla beats it hands down for my needs. Cheers Jason Vasiliy Boulytchev wrote: Ladies and Gents, Other than Kmail and trash like that, is there FINALLY a good mail client anyone using? I am dying here guys :(. I hope eudora grabs this open and empty market. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Ladies and Gents, Other than Kmail and trash like that, is there FINALLY a good mail client anyone using? I am dying here guys :(. I hope eudora grabs this open and empty market. -- Vasiliy Boulytchev Colorado Information Technologies Inc. (719) 473-2800 x15 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 J. Craig Woods wrote: | James Sparenberg wrote: | |> On Sat, 2002-12-07 at 17:28, Simon Ree wrote: |> |>> James Sparenberg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: |>> |>>> Sylpheed or Sylpheed-claws are both in Mandrake. Just do urpmi and get |>>> ready to roll. Only drawback may be that the documentation is |>>> primarily |>>> in Japanese (The have English now but didn't when I first used it.) But |>>> it is a rock solid product. |>>> |>>> James |>>> |>>> |>>> On Sat, 2002-12-07 at 11:30, logic7 wrote: |>>> |>>>> You could try Sylpheed. I've used it in the past with good results. |>>>> |>>>> http://sylpheed.good-day.net/ |>>>> |>>>> -Original Message----- |>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Toshiro |>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 2:24 PM |>>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |>>>> Subject: [expert] mail client |>>>> |>>>> |>>>> I'm tired of Evolution's silly behaviour of mail when they're |>>>> grouped by |>>>> mail; |>>>> do you know of any good mail client besides kmail? |>>>> |>> |>> .or get a real email client like mutt. Not easy to set up but once |>> its right its right. |> |> |> |> Dang does this mean that all this time I've been reading fake e-mail? |> Dang no wonder there is so much spam. |> | | Yep, if it is not mutt, it is not the *real* thing! | | drjung hey doc...mutt is fer da dogs, Ju-know? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Using PGP with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQA/AwUBPfayJ9VCGP9azxGuEQJaPwCcDcRIZTnGWfU6t+M+9+vvqgo507MAoNXB nkFri7Ks9hcA4JrOrioL/siK =iu0C -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Simon Ree wrote: | James Sparenberg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: | |>Sylpheed or Sylpheed-claws are both in Mandrake. Just do urpmi and get |>ready to roll. Only drawback may be that the documentation is primarily |>in Japanese (The have English now but didn't when I first used it.) But |>it is a rock solid product. |> |>James |> |> |>On Sat, 2002-12-07 at 11:30, logic7 wrote: |> |>>You could try Sylpheed. I've used it in the past with good results. |>> |>>http://sylpheed.good-day.net/ |>> |>>-Original Message- |>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Toshiro |>>Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 2:24 PM |>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |>>Subject: [expert] mail client |>> |>> |>>I'm tired of Evolution's silly behaviour of mail when they're grouped by |>>mail; |>>do you know of any good mail client besides kmail? |>> |>>-- |>>Toshiro |>> |>> |>> |>> |>> |> |>>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? |>>Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com |> |> |> | |>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? |>Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com | | | .or get a real email client like mutt. Not easy to set up but once | its right its right. | | -- | Simon Ree | [EMAIL PROTECTED] nah...if you're gonna use console Pine is better. Then if you're into GUI's Mozilla Messenger is a nice one too. Mark -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Using PGP with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQA/AwUBPfax7dVCGP9azxGuEQIwIQCgrTrABzo4Z2wNN3/CSjUwBbU5T8sAoIW3 nG0KSv75tOPWiSIfytyXY+ip =uS4q -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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021207 Toshiro wrote: > I'm tired of Evolution's silly behaviour of mail when they're grouped by mail; > do you know of any good mail client besides kmail? strongly recommended: Mutt . -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban & Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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James Sparenberg wrote: On Sat, 2002-12-07 at 17:28, Simon Ree wrote: James Sparenberg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Sylpheed or Sylpheed-claws are both in Mandrake. Just do urpmi and get ready to roll. Only drawback may be that the documentation is primarily in Japanese (The have English now but didn't when I first used it.) But it is a rock solid product. James On Sat, 2002-12-07 at 11:30, logic7 wrote: You could try Sylpheed. I've used it in the past with good results. http://sylpheed.good-day.net/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Toshiro Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 2:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] mail client I'm tired of Evolution's silly behaviour of mail when they're grouped by mail; do you know of any good mail client besides kmail? .or get a real email client like mutt. Not easy to set up but once its right its right. Dang does this mean that all this time I've been reading fake e-mail? Dang no wonder there is so much spam. Yep, if it is not mutt, it is not the *real* thing! drjung -- J. Craig Woods UNIX Network/System Administration http://www.trismegistus.net/resume.html Character is built upon the debris of despair --Emerson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Sat, 2002-12-07 at 17:28, Simon Ree wrote: > James Sparenberg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Sylpheed or Sylpheed-claws are both in Mandrake. Just do urpmi and get > > ready to roll. Only drawback may be that the documentation is primarily > > in Japanese (The have English now but didn't when I first used it.) But > > it is a rock solid product. > > > > James > > > > > > On Sat, 2002-12-07 at 11:30, logic7 wrote: > > > You could try Sylpheed. I've used it in the past with good results. > > > > > > http://sylpheed.good-day.net/ > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Toshiro > > > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 2:24 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: [expert] mail client > > > > > > > > > I'm tired of Evolution's silly behaviour of mail when they're grouped by > > > mail; > > > do you know of any good mail client besides kmail? > > > > > > -- > > > Toshiro > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > .or get a real email client like mutt. Not easy to set up but once > its right its right. Dang does this mean that all this time I've been reading fake e-mail? Dang no wonder there is so much spam. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] mail client
Sylpheed is indeed a fine program, but the mandrake RPMS seem to be build without GPGME support, so their is no sign/encrypt support. The good news is that both sylpheed and sylpheed-claws contain a spec file. Ir you add the gpgme option to that, you should be in the clear. Kind regards Guy On Sat, 2002-12-07 at 20:56, James Sparenberg wrote: > Sylpheed or Sylpheed-claws are both in Mandrake. Just do urpmi and get > ready to roll. Only drawback may be that the documentation is primarily > in Japanese (The have English now but didn't when I first used it.) But > it is a rock solid product. > > James > > > On Sat, 2002-12-07 at 11:30, logic7 wrote: > > You could try Sylpheed. I've used it in the past with good results. > > > > http://sylpheed.good-day.net/ > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Toshiro > > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 2:24 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [expert] mail client > > > > > > I'm tired of Evolution's silly behaviour of mail when they're grouped by > > mail; > > do you know of any good mail client besides kmail? > > > > -- > > Toshiro > > > > > > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > > > __ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Guy Van Sanden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [expert] mail client
James Sparenberg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Sylpheed or Sylpheed-claws are both in Mandrake. Just do urpmi and get > ready to roll. Only drawback may be that the documentation is primarily > in Japanese (The have English now but didn't when I first used it.) But > it is a rock solid product. > > James > > > On Sat, 2002-12-07 at 11:30, logic7 wrote: > > You could try Sylpheed. I've used it in the past with good results. > > > > http://sylpheed.good-day.net/ > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Toshiro > > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 2:24 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [expert] mail client > > > > > > I'm tired of Evolution's silly behaviour of mail when they're grouped by > > mail; > > do you know of any good mail client besides kmail? > > > > -- > > Toshiro > > > > > > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com .or get a real email client like mutt. Not easy to set up but once its right its right. -- Simon Ree [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] mail client
Sylpheed or Sylpheed-claws are both in Mandrake. Just do urpmi and get ready to roll. Only drawback may be that the documentation is primarily in Japanese (The have English now but didn't when I first used it.) But it is a rock solid product. James On Sat, 2002-12-07 at 11:30, logic7 wrote: > You could try Sylpheed. I've used it in the past with good results. > > http://sylpheed.good-day.net/ > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Toshiro > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 2:24 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [expert] mail client > > > I'm tired of Evolution's silly behaviour of mail when they're grouped by > mail; > do you know of any good mail client besides kmail? > > -- > Toshiro > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] mail client
You could try Sylpheed. I've used it in the past with good results. http://sylpheed.good-day.net/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Toshiro Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 2:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] mail client I'm tired of Evolution's silly behaviour of mail when they're grouped by mail; do you know of any good mail client besides kmail? -- Toshiro Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] mail client
I'm tired of Evolution's silly behaviour of mail when they're grouped by mail; do you know of any good mail client besides kmail? -- Toshiro Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mail client question
On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 07:37, Tom wrote: > I am attempting to migrate the wife from Windows to Mandrake Linux. She has a > mail client called "News Rover" which allows her to bulk save Email > attachments. She is subscribed to several Email lists and with this program, > she is able to mark a block of Email and have it automatically save the > attachments into a designated directory. > > Now the question: > > In all the email clients available to Linux, do any of them have the same > sort of ability to bulk save attachments? > procmail can do this -- in fact people have written scripts to catch attachments, strip them, and put them into a web page for bulk download. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Mail client question
I am attempting to migrate the wife from Windows to Mandrake Linux. She has a mail client called "News Rover" which allows her to bulk save Email attachments. She is subscribed to several Email lists and with this program, she is able to mark a block of Email and have it automatically save the attachments into a designated directory. Now the question: In all the email clients available to Linux, do any of them have the same sort of ability to bulk save attachments? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
