Re: [expert] print to samba server
On Saturday 04 Oct 2003 11:48 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My point was simply that they need to come out with ntfs support soon (win4lin that is) because people are going to be using what they have available and it will most likely be nt based, as well as software titles which people will most likely be running will probably stop being win98 compatible. There's always a trade-off isn't there? There's the ntfs support, which would be useful, against the better drivers for older peripherals, which again many find useful. It may be that they have to have separate products to deal with both needs. I haven't seen any statement about how they intend to develop the product, but with the move to better directx support they seem to be looking at gamers. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] print to samba server
On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 15:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anne Wilson said: Just browsing their webpage, they don't seem to have support for anything buy 95,98 or ME. Are you talking about one in beta? I may have to grovel on this one. I was speaking from memory, but I can't find the newletter I was thinking of - I must have deleted it. I know they were talking about DirectX improvements, but I could be totally wrong about W2K and XP. Sorry. As I said, win98SE is 100% stable for me under win4lin, but I recognise that that is no help if you need to read ntfs directories, or own a copy of w2k but not win98. Sorry if I misled you. No, not a bit. I shouldn't be slamming win4lin, it is a good product; I actually bought a couple of versions (aarrggh, the cat is stepping on my keyboard, looking for attention - wow, is she persistent!) You need to see this cartoon then. http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/index.html quite some time ago. I switched to vmware about 6 months ago and I'm actually planning on paying for it, as soon as I come up with the money! It supports everything; I was really impressed with it's ability to run multiple os's at the same time. The price is quite a bit higher for it though, hence why I haven't paid for it yet. I guess it's kind of apples and oranges as far as target users though. My point was simply that they need to come out with ntfs support soon (win4lin that is) because people are going to be using what they have available and it will most likely be nt based, as well as software titles which people will most likely be running will probably stop being win98 compatible. My understanding is that the problem is ntfs support in the linux kernel as they use this to access rather than a translation layer. I've been using Win4Lin since pre 1.0 days and love it. I do agree for the need to get beyond ME though. However the most advanced windows I own is 98 *grin*. As for VMWare. They picked me off when I had a download version (with a real serial number bought and paid for) and then when I tried to get a copy of my serial through them (lost during a HDD crash ) they just told me tough luck buy a new copy) the Win4Lin people on the other hand gave me my number. James -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com A cynic is a person searching for an honest man, with a stolen lantern. -- Edgar A. Shoaff __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] print to samba server
Anne Wilson said: On Saturday 04 Oct 2003 11:48 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My point was simply that they need to come out with ntfs support soon (win4lin that is) because people are going to be using what they have available and it will most likely be nt based, as well as software titles which people will most likely be running will probably stop being win98 compatible. There's always a trade-off isn't there? There's the ntfs support, which would be useful, against the better drivers for older peripherals, which again many find useful. It may be that they have to have separate products to deal with both needs. I haven't seen any statement about how they intend to develop the product, but with the move to better directx support they seem to be looking at gamers. Hey, now that sounds cool! Anne -- -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] print to samba server
James Sparenberg said: You need to see this cartoon then. http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/index.html Hehe, that's was great :) My understanding is that the problem is ntfs support in the linux kernel as they use this to access rather than a translation layer. I've been using Win4Lin since pre 1.0 days and love it. I do agree for the need to get beyond ME though. However the most advanced windows I own is 98 *grin*. Oh, I understand. I still recommend 98 for home use and 2k for anything else - if you're going to go mickeysoft. The irritating things that I have found are that I have bought hardware (as Anne mentioned) and moved to 2k and found that the hardware was NOT going to supported for anything other than 98! Same thing with software. As for VMWare. They picked me off when I had a download version (with a real serial number bought and paid for) and then when I tried to get a copy of my serial through them (lost during a HDD crash ) they just told me tough luck buy a new copy) the Win4Lin people on the other hand gave me my number. I understand this too. Did you register your product with them? That's especially bad if they don't help you out after that. I know that most large companies are going to be this way, so I try to prepare in advance for possibility. I burn extra copies of the software and copy the key to other locations. Companies get a little carried away with their concern for piracy, etc. If people want it bad enough, they're going to get it - one way or another. The only people the hurt are the ones that try to follow the rules. -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] print to samba server
On Saturday 04 Oct 2003 6:42 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anne Wilson said: On Friday 03 Oct 2003 4:19 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James Sparenberg said: Good news may be with samba 3.x it's better aimed at XP (fingers crossed) You know, I was reading a little bit about that, and I was under the impression that most of it's new features were aimed at dealing better with NT4. Since XP has the same base as NT4, that's reasonable. I'm not a real m$ kernel guru, but I believe that they've made quite a few changes since nt4. Looking back on the win2k mcse classes, there was quite a bit of difference even in those systems. Working experience with xp now seems quite a bit different than 2k (of course that's end user stuff). I'm sure they have, but AFAIK that is developmental, not new. I thought that was quite odd, but I may have just misread; it was really more of a quick glance. Similarly with Win4lin; why do they keep putting out new versions that only work with 9x versions of Windoze? That system is 5 years old now. The latest issue is able to support W2K upwards - but it's a first stage, so I don't know how good it is yet. I'm sure that by the next release it will be good. And then of course many of us do actually prefer to stay with win98 - particularly since it is 100% stable under win4lin. Just browsing their webpage, they don't seem to have support for anything buy 95,98 or ME. Are you talking about one in beta? I may have to grovel on this one. I was speaking from memory, but I can't find the newletter I was thinking of - I must have deleted it. I know they were talking about DirectX improvements, but I could be totally wrong about W2K and XP. Sorry. As I said, win98SE is 100% stable for me under win4lin, but I recognise that that is no help if you need to read ntfs directories, or own a copy of w2k but not win98. Sorry if I misled you. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] print to samba server
Anne Wilson said: Just browsing their webpage, they don't seem to have support for anything buy 95,98 or ME. Are you talking about one in beta? I may have to grovel on this one. I was speaking from memory, but I can't find the newletter I was thinking of - I must have deleted it. I know they were talking about DirectX improvements, but I could be totally wrong about W2K and XP. Sorry. As I said, win98SE is 100% stable for me under win4lin, but I recognise that that is no help if you need to read ntfs directories, or own a copy of w2k but not win98. Sorry if I misled you. No, not a bit. I shouldn't be slamming win4lin, it is a good product; I actually bought a couple of versions (aarrggh, the cat is stepping on my keyboard, looking for attention - wow, is she persistent!) quite some time ago. I switched to vmware about 6 months ago and I'm actually planning on paying for it, as soon as I come up with the money! It supports everything; I was really impressed with it's ability to run multiple os's at the same time. The price is quite a bit higher for it though, hence why I haven't paid for it yet. I guess it's kind of apples and oranges as far as target users though. My point was simply that they need to come out with ntfs support soon (win4lin that is) because people are going to be using what they have available and it will most likely be nt based, as well as software titles which people will most likely be running will probably stop being win98 compatible. -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com A cynic is a person searching for an honest man, with a stolen lantern. -- Edgar A. Shoaff Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] print to samba server
On Friday 03 Oct 2003 4:19 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James Sparenberg said: Good news may be with samba 3.x it's better aimed at XP (fingers crossed) You know, I was reading a little bit about that, and I was under the impression that most of it's new features were aimed at dealing better with NT4. Since XP has the same base as NT4, that's reasonable. I thought that was quite odd, but I may have just misread; it was really more of a quick glance. Similarly with Win4lin; why do they keep putting out new versions that only work with 9x versions of Windoze? That system is 5 years old now. The latest issue is able to support W2K upwards - but it's a first stage, so I don't know how good it is yet. I'm sure that by the next release it will be good. And then of course many of us do actually prefer to stay with win98 - particularly since it is 100% stable under win4lin. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] print to samba server
Anne Wilson said: On Friday 03 Oct 2003 4:19 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James Sparenberg said: Good news may be with samba 3.x it's better aimed at XP (fingers crossed) You know, I was reading a little bit about that, and I was under the impression that most of it's new features were aimed at dealing better with NT4. Since XP has the same base as NT4, that's reasonable. I'm not a real m$ kernel guru, but I believe that they've made quite a few changes since nt4. Looking back on the win2k mcse classes, there was quite a bit of difference even in those systems. Working experience with xp now seems quite a bit different than 2k (of course that's end user stuff). I thought that was quite odd, but I may have just misread; it was really more of a quick glance. Similarly with Win4lin; why do they keep putting out new versions that only work with 9x versions of Windoze? That system is 5 years old now. The latest issue is able to support W2K upwards - but it's a first stage, so I don't know how good it is yet. I'm sure that by the next release it will be good. And then of course many of us do actually prefer to stay with win98 - particularly since it is 100% stable under win4lin. Just browsing their webpage, they don't seem to have support for anything buy 95,98 or ME. Are you talking about one in beta? -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com A cynic is a person searching for an honest man, with a stolen lantern. -- Edgar A. Shoaff Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] print to samba server
Hey all, HELP!!! I need to print from windows to linux - I've set up samba, I can see and access my shares - the printer is a cups printer - when I try to set it up through windows, it wants a printer driver - I download and install the correct driver - when I try to print a test page, it says it can't access the printer. mike I'm going to answer my own post. I'm not quite sure what happened. I spent about 6 hours screwing around with it and I finally got it to work. I came up with a few different problems during my voyage: couldn't find the printer, couldn't access it (denied) and finally what I realized was that what I was seeing at some points was the it's just incredibly slw. The epson status monitor was giving me and error (cause it wants to actually touch the printer) and waiting several minutes for the test page, made me believe it wasn't going to print. I just didn't wait long enough. man, what a day! Mike -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com A cynic is a person searching for an honest man, with a stolen lantern. -- Edgar A. Shoaff Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] print to samba server
which flavour of windows have you got ? The reason I ask is that on my LAN I have win4lin with win98se installed which finds the printer and prints OK, But if I connect my old laptop which has winxp on it, it reports access denied to the printer ,but still prints OK from the apps. HTH Richard On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 00:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, HELP!!! I need to print from windows to linux - I've set up samba, I can see and access my shares - the printer is a cups printer - when I try to set it up through windows, it wants a printer driver - I download and install the correct driver - when I try to print a test page, it says it can't access the printer. mike -- Richard Bown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] print to samba server
which flavour of windows have you got ? The reason I ask is that on my LAN I have win4lin with win98se installed which finds the printer and prints OK, But if I connect my old laptop which has winxp on it, it reports access denied to the printer ,but still prints OK from the apps. HTH Richard xp / 98 on vmware. I get the exact same problems - which isn't really a problem cause I can print, but I would like to get rid of that message. Here's my log file: [2003/10/02 08:46:34, 0] printing/print_cups.c:cups_printername_ok(291) Unable to get printer status for . - client-error-not-found [2003/10/02 08:46:34, 0] smbd/service.c:make_connection(252) enigma (192.168.0.7) couldn't find service . [2003/10/02 08:47:20, 0] rpc_client/cli_spoolss_notify.c:spoolss_connect_to_client(91) connect_to_client: unable to connect to SMB server on machine ENIGMA. Error was : SUCCESS - 0. But again, I CAN print just fine. mike -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com A cynic is a person searching for an honest man, with a stolen lantern. -- Edgar A. Shoaff Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] print to samba server
Ahh, I'm pleased to find I'm not the only one to get this. I get the gut feeling that winXP has a few thing built in which are deliberately non linux. Odd unexplainable things that happen when XP is on a dual boot machine. I may be paranoid, but who trusts Bill Gates ?. Richard On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 18:06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: which flavour of windows have you got ? The reason I ask is that on my LAN I have win4lin with win98se installed which finds the printer and prints OK, But if I connect my old laptop which has winxp on it, it reports access denied to the printer ,but still prints OK from the apps. HTH Richard xp / 98 on vmware. I get the exact same problems - which isn't really a problem cause I can print, but I would like to get rid of that message. Here's my log file: [2003/10/02 08:46:34, 0] printing/print_cups.c:cups_printername_ok(291) Unable to get printer status for . - client-error-not-found [2003/10/02 08:46:34, 0] smbd/service.c:make_connection(252) enigma (192.168.0.7) couldn't find service . [2003/10/02 08:47:20, 0] rpc_client/cli_spoolss_notify.c:spoolss_connect_to_client(91) connect_to_client: unable to connect to SMB server on machine ENIGMA. Error was : SUCCESS - 0. But again, I CAN print just fine. mike -- Richard Bown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] print to samba server
On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 15:14, Richard Bown wrote: Ahh, I'm pleased to find I'm not the only one to get this. I get the gut feeling that winXP has a few thing built in which are deliberately non linux. Odd unexplainable things that happen when XP is on a dual boot machine. I may be paranoid, but who trusts Bill Gates ?. Richard Good news may be with samba 3.x it's better aimed at XP (fingers crossed) On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 18:06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: which flavour of windows have you got ? The reason I ask is that on my LAN I have win4lin with win98se installed which finds the printer and prints OK, But if I connect my old laptop which has winxp on it, it reports access denied to the printer ,but still prints OK from the apps. HTH Richard xp / 98 on vmware. I get the exact same problems - which isn't really a problem cause I can print, but I would like to get rid of that message. Here's my log file: [2003/10/02 08:46:34, 0] printing/print_cups.c:cups_printername_ok(291) Unable to get printer status for . - client-error-not-found [2003/10/02 08:46:34, 0] smbd/service.c:make_connection(252) enigma (192.168.0.7) couldn't find service . [2003/10/02 08:47:20, 0] rpc_client/cli_spoolss_notify.c:spoolss_connect_to_client(91) connect_to_client: unable to connect to SMB server on machine ENIGMA. Error was : SUCCESS - 0. But again, I CAN print just fine. mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] print to samba server
Richard Bown said: Ahh, I'm pleased to find I'm not the only one to get this. I get the gut feeling that winXP has a few thing built in which are deliberately non linux. Odd unexplainable things that happen when XP is on a dual boot machine. I may be paranoid, but who trusts Bill Gates ?. Richard Doh! No kidding! I quit dual booting a couple of years ago and most of my problems mysteriously disappeared :) -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com A cynic is a person searching for an honest man, with a stolen lantern. -- Edgar A. Shoaff Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] print to samba server
James Sparenberg said: Good news may be with samba 3.x it's better aimed at XP (fingers crossed) You know, I was reading a little bit about that, and I was under the impression that most of it's new features were aimed at dealing better with NT4. I thought that was quite odd, but I may have just misread; it was really more of a quick glance. Similarly with Win4lin; why do they keep putting out new versions that only work with 9x versions of Windoze? That system is 5 years old now. Anyway... -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com A cynic is a person searching for an honest man, with a stolen lantern. -- Edgar A. Shoaff Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] print to samba server
Hey all, HELP!!! I need to print from windows to linux - I've set up samba, I can see and access my shares - the printer is a cups printer - when I try to set it up through windows, it wants a printer driver - I download and install the correct driver - when I try to print a test page, it says it can't access the printer. mike -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com A cynic is a person searching for an honest man, with a stolen lantern. -- Edgar A. Shoaff Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
