Re: [expert] Software Manager Sucks

2002-12-24 Thread James Sparenberg
On Mon, 2002-12-23 at 16:50, Mark Weaver wrote:
 Jack Coates wrote:
  On Sun, 2002-12-22 at 22:57, James Sparenberg wrote:
  
 I've got to put in my 2 cents here.  For me... 8.2 bit bad.  Why, I was
 running i810 and i815 chipset motherboards and having all kinds of
 stability problems with 9.0 these boxes have all been rock solid.  any
 funky hassles I've had have been either due to pushing the box too hard
 or trying to do something I shouldn't have been trying to do. Not due to
 a weakness in 9.0.  Actually I've found it to be the most solidly tested
 version since 7.0.  Yes there are problems with programs that run ON
 Linux.  KDE - Gnome - etc etc.  Many of these aren't so much MDK
 problems as just... problems.  If you ever want something that will
 drive you nuts trying to get it to do what you want... try RH 8.0...
 Blue blows.
 
 James
  
  
  Heck, I haven't even touched the new distro or the new GUI -- but I do
  have to work on a number of RH 7.x servers, and man do I miss urpmi. I
  also think Mandrake RPMs are generally better put together. That is,
  less likely to be broken and more likely to have the configure options I
  wanted.
 
 In response to James...I've noticed the exact opposite. I'm so fed up 
 with trying to do server with 9.0 I've vowed it will never see any more 
 of the servers I administrate. Whether at home or at the office. 8.2, on 
 the other hand works exceptionally as either a workstation or a server. 
 9.0 does just dandy as a workstation, but there appears to be a lot 
 needing attention when it comes to the server end. Networking is at the 
 top of the list right now.
 
 Mark

Well I will admit that Desktops are more of a concern for me than plain
servers... And that with MDK it wants a heavy footprint.  But I just
de-commissioned (by force the hardware died) a 7.2 Mandrake box that had
run without a hiccup or a breakin for over 2 years.  24-7-52 ... MDK RH
or Slack... each has it's fun points.  (slack is very unforgiving )
Biggest problem with RH is that it installs to many problem rpms
(telnet r services finger etc) by default.  With Mandrake the hassle is
for me getting it installed sans gui.(again fewer services  fewer
holes.) For Laptops... MDK all the way... 2 identical dell boxes the
other week... MDK ... installed and running in 30 minutes... RH ... 3
days and only limping.  RH and MDK run neck n neck on one point ... I've
got updates set up on a cron job... if it comes out I get it and an
e-mail to boot. One thing though... MDK does have more options.

James

 
 
 
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Re: [expert] Software Manager Sucks

2002-12-24 Thread Mark Weaver
James Sparenberg wrote:

On Mon, 2002-12-23 at 16:50, Mark Weaver wrote:


Jack Coates wrote:


On Sun, 2002-12-22 at 22:57, James Sparenberg wrote:



I've got to put in my 2 cents here.  For me... 8.2 bit bad.  Why, I was
running i810 and i815 chipset motherboards and having all kinds of
stability problems with 9.0 these boxes have all been rock solid.  any
funky hassles I've had have been either due to pushing the box too hard
or trying to do something I shouldn't have been trying to do. Not due to
a weakness in 9.0.  Actually I've found it to be the most solidly tested
version since 7.0.  Yes there are problems with programs that run ON
Linux.  KDE - Gnome - etc etc.  Many of these aren't so much MDK
problems as just... problems.  If you ever want something that will
drive you nuts trying to get it to do what you want... try RH 8.0...
Blue blows.

James



Heck, I haven't even touched the new distro or the new GUI -- but I do
have to work on a number of RH 7.x servers, and man do I miss urpmi. I
also think Mandrake RPMs are generally better put together. That is,
less likely to be broken and more likely to have the configure options I
wanted.


In response to James...I've noticed the exact opposite. I'm so fed up 
with trying to do server with 9.0 I've vowed it will never see any more 
of the servers I administrate. Whether at home or at the office. 8.2, on 
the other hand works exceptionally as either a workstation or a server. 
9.0 does just dandy as a workstation, but there appears to be a lot 
needing attention when it comes to the server end. Networking is at the 
top of the list right now.

Mark


Well I will admit that Desktops are more of a concern for me than plain
servers... And that with MDK it wants a heavy footprint.  But I just
de-commissioned (by force the hardware died) a 7.2 Mandrake box that had
run without a hiccup or a breakin for over 2 years.  24-7-52 ... MDK RH
or Slack... each has it's fun points.  (slack is very unforgiving )
Biggest problem with RH is that it installs to many problem rpms
(telnet r services finger etc) by default.  With Mandrake the hassle is
for me getting it installed sans gui.(again fewer services  fewer
holes.) For Laptops... MDK all the way... 2 identical dell boxes the
other week... MDK ... installed and running in 30 minutes... RH ... 3
days and only limping.  RH and MDK run neck n neck on one point ... I've
got updates set up on a cron job... if it comes out I get it and an
e-mail to boot. One thing though... MDK does have more options.

James


O I agree 1000%...MDK all the way. While I really like MDK9.0, I'm still 
quite frustrated over the networking troubles that seem to exist on the 
system when it comes to setting it up, getting it running, *correctly*. 
There don't appear to be these same problems with MDK 8.2. That goes in 
without a hassle and I've been known to get a server functional with 2 
hours.

RedHat 8.0 on the other hand is, without a doubt, a workstation ONLY 
distro. That poor bugger has been so severely crippled when it comes to 
administrating it as a server I can't even begin to tell ya.

More and more...Mandrake is the one and only.

Mark



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Re: [expert] Software Manager Sucks

2002-12-23 Thread Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva
James,

I wholetotally agree with you!

On 22 Dec 2002, James Sparenberg wrote:

 I've got to put in my 2 cents here.  For me... 8.2 bit bad.  Why, I was
 running i810 and i815 chipset motherboards and having all kinds of
 stability problems with 9.0 these boxes have all been rock solid.  any
 funky hassles I've had have been either due to pushing the box too hard
 or trying to do something I shouldn't have been trying to do. Not due to
 a weakness in 9.0.  Actually I've found it to be the most solidly tested
 version since 7.0.  Yes there are problems with programs that run ON
 Linux.  KDE - Gnome - etc etc.  Many of these aren't so much MDK
 problems as just... problems.  If you ever want something that will
 drive you nuts trying to get it to do what you want... try RH 8.0...
 Blue blows.

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Re: [expert] Software Manager Sucks

2002-12-23 Thread Jack Coates
On Sun, 2002-12-22 at 22:57, James Sparenberg wrote:
 I've got to put in my 2 cents here.  For me... 8.2 bit bad.  Why, I was
 running i810 and i815 chipset motherboards and having all kinds of
 stability problems with 9.0 these boxes have all been rock solid.  any
 funky hassles I've had have been either due to pushing the box too hard
 or trying to do something I shouldn't have been trying to do. Not due to
 a weakness in 9.0.  Actually I've found it to be the most solidly tested
 version since 7.0.  Yes there are problems with programs that run ON
 Linux.  KDE - Gnome - etc etc.  Many of these aren't so much MDK
 problems as just... problems.  If you ever want something that will
 drive you nuts trying to get it to do what you want... try RH 8.0...
 Blue blows.
 
 James

Heck, I haven't even touched the new distro or the new GUI -- but I do
have to work on a number of RH 7.x servers, and man do I miss urpmi. I
also think Mandrake RPMs are generally better put together. That is,
less likely to be broken and more likely to have the configure options I
wanted.

   
 
 On Sun, 2002-12-22 at 12:57, Philip Webb wrote:
  021222 Praedor Atrebates wrote:
   Ah, with it now too late ya'll have made me regret buying MDK 9.0.
  -- details snipped --
  
  i've been happily running an upgrade 8.2 - 9.0rc1 since September.
  certainly, 8.0 was awful (very bad KDE)  8.2 quite good,
  but there's no reason to avoid 9.0 ,
  tho' you might want to try a few things from Cooker.
 
 
 
 

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Re: [expert] Software Manager Sucks

2002-12-23 Thread Mark Weaver
Jack Coates wrote:

On Sun, 2002-12-22 at 22:57, James Sparenberg wrote:


I've got to put in my 2 cents here.  For me... 8.2 bit bad.  Why, I was
running i810 and i815 chipset motherboards and having all kinds of
stability problems with 9.0 these boxes have all been rock solid.  any
funky hassles I've had have been either due to pushing the box too hard
or trying to do something I shouldn't have been trying to do. Not due to
a weakness in 9.0.  Actually I've found it to be the most solidly tested
version since 7.0.  Yes there are problems with programs that run ON
Linux.  KDE - Gnome - etc etc.  Many of these aren't so much MDK
problems as just... problems.  If you ever want something that will
drive you nuts trying to get it to do what you want... try RH 8.0...
Blue blows.

James



Heck, I haven't even touched the new distro or the new GUI -- but I do
have to work on a number of RH 7.x servers, and man do I miss urpmi. I
also think Mandrake RPMs are generally better put together. That is,
less likely to be broken and more likely to have the configure options I
wanted.


In response to James...I've noticed the exact opposite. I'm so fed up 
with trying to do server with 9.0 I've vowed it will never see any more 
of the servers I administrate. Whether at home or at the office. 8.2, on 
the other hand works exceptionally as either a workstation or a server. 
9.0 does just dandy as a workstation, but there appears to be a lot 
needing attention when it comes to the server end. Networking is at the 
top of the list right now.

Mark


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Re: [expert] Software Manager Sucks

2002-12-22 Thread David Robertson
On Sat, 2002-12-21 at 23:15, Philip Webb wrote:
 021221 John Wilson wrote:

  The installation manager keeps telling me
  that uninstalled packages are already installed.
 
 you have to do something like 'urpmi-update' or '-rebuild'.

That never worked for me, nor did rebuilding the rpm database, which was
another suggestion. Having had a bit of a mental breakdown the other
day, out of sheer frustration, following which I posted a bit of a rant
(apologies for that, everyone) I solved the problem by doing a really
minimal reinstall, removing the CD installation sources from Software
Manager, and then replacing them with a variety of sources configured
from http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php ( a great utility, in my
opinion). I then installed the latest versions of everything I wanted.
Things have been fine since - and I've even now got mplayer installed,
which started this whole thing off for me.

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Re: [expert] Software Manager Sucks

2002-12-22 Thread Praedor Atrebates
Ah, with it now too late ya'll have made me regret buying MDK 9.0.  I bought 
it when it was first released but quickly cancelled the order when the list 
of problems began quickly stacking up.  Then with some of the difficulties I 
was having with a few items (mainly kde 3.0.x) on 8.2, I was convinced to go 
ahead and go to 9.0 but to upgrade immediately to a Cooker kernel to avoid 
the 2.3.19 problems (supermount, usb).  I have since learned that the Cooker 
kernels have new problems of their (particularly, it seems, with regards to 
usb and the atmel wireless driver).  Then there are these problems with the 
software manager.

So much to look forward to (not).  I get saddled with 9.0 on Monday (when the 
package will arrive).  Has anyone looked into the possibility of 
forward-porting 8.2 stuff into 9.0?  That is, eliminating the 9.0 software 
manager and compiling/installing the 8.2 software manager in its stead?  As 
it is, with the Cooker kernel problems I am looking at having to build/use 
the 8.2 kernel to ensure my wireless device works as well as supermount.

praedor

On Sunday 22 December 2002 06:39 am, David Robertson wrote:
 On Sat, 2002-12-21 at 23:15, Philip Webb wrote:
  021221 John Wilson wrote:
   The installation manager keeps telling me
   that uninstalled packages are already installed.
 
  you have to do something like 'urpmi-update' or '-rebuild'.

 That never worked for me, nor did rebuilding the rpm database, which was
 another suggestion. Having had a bit of a mental breakdown the other
 day, out of sheer frustration, following which I posted a bit of a rant
 (apologies for that, everyone) I solved the problem by doing a really
 minimal reinstall, removing the CD installation sources from Software
 Manager, and then replacing them with a variety of sources configured
 from http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php ( a great utility, in my
 opinion). I then installed the latest versions of everything I wanted.
 Things have been fine since - and I've even now got mplayer installed,
 which started this whole thing off for me.

 David


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Re: [expert] Software Manager Sucks

2002-12-22 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Sunday 22 December 2002 17:53, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
 Ah, with it now too late ya'll have made me regret buying MDK 9.0.  I
 bought it when it was first released but quickly cancelled the order when
 the list of problems began quickly stacking up.  Then with some of the
 difficulties I was having with a few items (mainly kde 3.0.x) on 8.2, I was
 convinced to go ahead and go to 9.0 but to upgrade immediately to a Cooker
 kernel to avoid the 2.3.19 problems (supermount, usb).  I have since
 learned that the Cooker kernels have new problems of their (particularly,
 it seems, with regards to usb and the atmel wireless driver).  Then there
 are these problems with the software manager.

 So much to look forward to (not).  I get saddled with 9.0 on Monday (when
 the package will arrive).  Has anyone looked into the possibility of
 forward-porting 8.2 stuff into 9.0?  That is, eliminating the 9.0 software
 manager and compiling/installing the 8.2 software manager in its stead?  As
 it is, with the Cooker kernel problems I am looking at having to build/use
 the 8.2 kernel to ensure my wireless device works as well as supermount.

 praedor


7.2 and 8.2 were excellent distributions I can only agree. The x.0 versions 
are the ones to be wary of.
Considering the troubles I personally had with 7.0 and 8.0 and the ease of 9.0 
(the first x.0 version that didn't leave me pining for the previous version) 
I just can't wait to see what 9.2 will be like. Should be sheer heaven!;o)

So maybe you should just wait for x.2 versions (i.e if you can't take the 
heat.!) if you don't want to take any chances.

Good luck,
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Re: [expert] Software Manager Sucks

2002-12-22 Thread Philip Webb
021222 Praedor Atrebates wrote:
 Ah, with it now too late ya'll have made me regret buying MDK 9.0.
-- details snipped --

i've been happily running an upgrade 8.2 - 9.0rc1 since September.
certainly, 8.0 was awful (very bad KDE)  8.2 quite good,
but there's no reason to avoid 9.0 ,
tho' you might want to try a few things from Cooker.

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Re: [expert] Software Manager Sucks But V9.0 otherwise working fine (so far).

2002-12-22 Thread John Wilson
On Sunday 22 December 2002 08:53 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
 Ah, with it now too late ya'll have made me regret buying MDK 9.0.  I
 bought it when it was first released but quickly cancelled the order when
 the list of problems began quickly stacking up.  Then with some of the
 difficulties I was having with a few items (mainly kde 3.0.x) on 8.2, I was
 convinced to go ahead and go to 9.0 but to upgrade immediately to a Cooker
 kernel to avoid the 2.3.19 problems (supermount, usb).  I have since
 learned that the Cooker kernels have new problems of their (particularly,
 it seems, with regards to usb and the atmel wireless driver).  Then there
 are these problems with the software manager.

 So much to look forward to (not).  I get saddled with 9.0 on Monday (when
 the package will arrive).  Has anyone looked into the possibility of
 forward-porting 8.2 stuff into 9.0?  That is, eliminating the 9.0 software
 manager and compiling/installing the 8.2 software manager in its stead?  As
 it is, with the Cooker kernel problems I am looking at having to build/use
 the 8.2 kernel to ensure my wireless device works as well as supermount.

 praedor

Goodness, I hope not. :)

The only problem so far has been with urpmi and Software Manager, important 
though that is. 

This distro is the first that flawlessly installed my sound card properly (I 
didn't have to spend half the day getting noise from the speakers), found the 
right printer instead of the printer family (HP Deskjet 695C instead of HP 
Deskject 690 family) and actually set up the ISP without a whole lot of 
bother.

I agree that 8.2 and 7.2 were virtually flawless and I expect that 9.2 will be 
wonderful too.  But for most of my uses so far it's a dream.

Now if I could only figure out what a M$ security patch did that has blown 
that machine out of the water so that it won't connect to Samba or the 
Internet.  But I'll save that for another thread.

Thaniks everyone. :)

ttfn

John


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Re: [expert] Software Manager Sucks

2002-12-22 Thread James Sparenberg
I've got to put in my 2 cents here.  For me... 8.2 bit bad.  Why, I was
running i810 and i815 chipset motherboards and having all kinds of
stability problems with 9.0 these boxes have all been rock solid.  any
funky hassles I've had have been either due to pushing the box too hard
or trying to do something I shouldn't have been trying to do. Not due to
a weakness in 9.0.  Actually I've found it to be the most solidly tested
version since 7.0.  Yes there are problems with programs that run ON
Linux.  KDE - Gnome - etc etc.  Many of these aren't so much MDK
problems as just... problems.  If you ever want something that will
drive you nuts trying to get it to do what you want... try RH 8.0...
Blue blows.

James
  

On Sun, 2002-12-22 at 12:57, Philip Webb wrote:
 021222 Praedor Atrebates wrote:
  Ah, with it now too late ya'll have made me regret buying MDK 9.0.
 -- details snipped --
 
 i've been happily running an upgrade 8.2 - 9.0rc1 since September.
 certainly, 8.0 was awful (very bad KDE)  8.2 quite good,
 but there's no reason to avoid 9.0 ,
 tho' you might want to try a few things from Cooker.



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[expert] Software Manager Sucks

2002-12-21 Thread John Wilson
I've just browsed the list to see if anyone is experienceing the same issues 
with urpmi and Software Manager as I am and I spotted David Robertson's 
comments.  I'm so glad I'm not the only one.

I finally upgraded to 9.0 because I figured most of the bugs would be out and, 
for the most part, they are.  But

Who the heck decided to break Software Manager?  Up to 8.2 it worked like a 
charm...slowly and it wanted to take over the whole machine..but it worked.  
It even showed things like where files were installed and so on.  Now it's 
three or four peices none of which are anywhere near as good as 8.2.  The 
installation manager keeps telling me that uninstalled packages are already 
installed.  KPackage at least reports that properly about installed packages 
and installs them correctly.  But...and it's a big but...the Install Packages 
keeps blithely insisting I installed everything from all the CDs, which I 
haven't.

As David said one of the joys of Mandrake up to 9.0 was ease of use and ease 
of setup.  This does seem to be gone..right out the window!

What I could do on one screen before with software manager now takes 4 and if 
I'm lucky, which I haven't been so far, it will work.

Anyway, I'm back to essentially manually installing packages either from 
KPackage or the command line.  Software Manager is worse than uselsess.

ttfn

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Re: [expert] Software Manager Sucks

2002-12-21 Thread XI
John Wilson wrote:

I've just browsed the list to see if anyone is experienceing the same issues 
with urpmi and Software Manager as I am and I spotted David Robertson's 
comments.  I'm so glad I'm not the only one.

I finally upgraded to 9.0 because I figured most of the bugs would be out and, 
for the most part, they are.  But

Who the heck decided to break Software Manager?  Up to 8.2 it worked like a 
charm...slowly and it wanted to take over the whole machine..but it worked.  
It even showed things like where files were installed and so on.  Now it's 
three or four peices none of which are anywhere near as good as 8.2.  The 
installation manager keeps telling me that uninstalled packages are already 
installed.  KPackage at least reports that properly about installed packages 
and installs them correctly.  But...and it's a big but...the Install Packages 
keeps blithely insisting I installed everything from all the CDs, which I 
haven't.

As David said one of the joys of Mandrake up to 9.0 was ease of use and ease 
of setup.  This does seem to be gone..right out the window!

What I could do on one screen before with software manager now takes 4 and if 
I'm lucky, which I haven't been so far, it will work.

Anyway, I'm back to essentially manually installing packages either from 
KPackage or the command line.  Software Manager is worse than uselsess.

ttfn

John


I am totally agree with you. Does anyone know if it is possible to use 
rpmdrake from mandrake 8.2 ? I have tried to use rpmdrake package from 
it, but I can't get it working.

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Re: [expert] Software Manager Sucks

2002-12-21 Thread Philip Webb
021221 John Wilson wrote:
 Who the heck decided to break Software Manager?

one of the Mandrake staff persons fixed it.

 Up to 8.2 it worked like a charm ...
 It even showed things like where files were installed and so on.

you can still do that: R-click on the R-hand window.

 Now it's 3 - 4 pieces none of which are anywhere near as good as 8.2.

you can have them all open at once to make comparisons.

 The installation manager keeps telling me
 that uninstalled packages are already installed.

you have to do something like 'urpmi-update' or '-rebuild'.

there has been a lot of discussion re these problems since last summer
both here on Expert  on the Cooker list: check the archive.

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[expert] software manager problems

2002-02-10 Thread Eugene C. Zesch

I'm having a problem with Software Manager with Mandrake 8.1 on my new
computer, which I dont have on the old computer.

When I try to install a package not on the loaded disk, a prompt asks
for a different disk. It must still be mounted though, because I cant
eject and change the disk. I can only do so if I su to root and umount.

The old computer is a PII 266 on some generic MB, using ext2.
The new one is a 1.13 Athalon on an ECS K7S5A, using ext2 on /, and ext3
on the other partitions. (I had problems booting using ext3 on the /
partition).

Any help would be welcome.

Thanks,

Gene



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[expert] Software Manager

2002-02-01 Thread James Francis

Somehow my 3 source cds were no longer available in the Software Manager's  
source list so I made new ones using the New option under Define sources.  
Now when I try to do an update it no longer prompts for the correct cd 
although it shows in the list which one it wants. If I put the correct cd in 
it will no longer mount it automatically. Anyone know how to configure this 
or where to look for information regarding it?

Thanks 

Jim



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[expert] software manager

2001-12-08 Thread Marek


Hi Guys

When i run software manager or mandrake update it gets to analysing the
3rd disk part and then hangs at 97%. I had to kill it the other day as
it was taking too long to get to the ftp site and maybe i messed things
up with kill -9. any ideas pse ?

Cheers

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Re: [expert] Software Manager

2001-10-19 Thread Ralph Forsythe

At 10:37 PM 10/18/2001 -0500, you wrote:
you have to update your sources first, and even this doesn't always work
correctly.  A freature needs to be added where it looks for the file name,
and if it finds a different version (hopefully newer) it will download that
one instead.  Any chance someone could add that?

mark

Did that ... which is how I've tried multiple servers. :)  I agree, it 
needs some sort of aut-search feature, or a master list of packages and 
their corresponding locations (with some kind of intelligent auto-update 
feature to prevent dead links) in the world that the software can grab as 
part of it's list.

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Re: [expert] Software Manager

2001-10-18 Thread Mark D'voo

you have to update your sources first, and even this doesn't always work 
correctly.  A freature needs to be added where it looks for the file name, 
and if it finds a different version (hopefully newer) it will download that 
one instead.  Any chance someone could add that?

mark

On Wednesday 17 October 2001 06:28 pm, you wrote:
 So, does anyone else have problems using software manager?  Frequently the
 majority of packages I select to upgrade or install (usually the first)
 fail to fetch from the server I select.  I have tried quite a few servers,
 same results.  Are the files just not there even though SM thinks they
 are?  I have tried this on two different systems as well.

 Any insight would be appreciated. :)

 Thanks,
 Ralph Forsythe
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Re: [expert] Software Manager

2001-10-18 Thread David E. Fox

 you have to update your sources first, and even this doesn't always work 
 correctly.  A freature needs to be added where it looks for the file name, 

apt (from debian) and apt-get is supposed to be the Right Way to do these
sorts of upgrades. Personally I have little experience with these particular
tools, not having run Debian. But I think that porting it would not be that
major a problem. I've tried a rpm of apt, but it was not usable because the
source path files did not include any decent places to search -- which is 
probably more important than the software itself, is to have a decent sample
paths file to start from. 

It's been suggested numerous times that the debian file format (.deb) is
better suited to these types of problems than the rpm file format -- chiefly
because of dependency issues. Supposedly, one should be able to type 'apt-get
update' and get all files that have changed since the last apt-get, along
with all dependencies - so that if package X gets a new version, it'll get
X and new versions of packages that depend on X, and if those packages have
dependencies of their own, those get downloaded too.

I have yet to try this, and have yet to try urpmi, which is Mandrake's an-
swer to apt-get (I guess). Even with that, you need a good source path
file for it to follow. I have tried rpmfind (with --latest) which 
can occasionally do a good job at getting new versions, but it sometimes
will get bogged down when dependencies (especially complicated ones)
enter the picture.


 

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[expert] software manager

2001-08-15 Thread Jerry Sternesky

I did some updates from cooker and now when I run the software manager to try 
and install a package I get bad rpm message.  However, when I drop to the 
cl and do an rpm -Uvh it installs just fine.  Has anyone else encountered 
this?  Any suggestions of what I might need to update to get it working again?

Thanks,

Jerry



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[expert] Software Manager Problem

2001-07-11 Thread Nathan Callahan

Hi All,

I just got LM 8.0 Powerpack.  I've been trying to add the CDs as extra 
sources in Software Manager, but it always seems to fail to read the 
second disk that I put in, and the drive becomes unusable until I reboot 
(i/o error is the message that I seem to remember) .

I'm running a Pioneer 16x DVD ROM drive, of an ASUS Mobo (Can't remember 
the model at the moment) with a Slot A 700Mhz Athlon.

Any help greatfully accepted.






[expert] software manager upgrading?

2001-05-28 Thread Dan Swartzendruber


I finally gave up on cooker (for now).  Did a clean install of 8.0
and it seems to work pretty well.  I was going through uninstalling
packages I don't use (using Software Manager), and I noticed something
kind of odd.  I had done an upgrade of a dozen or so packages that were
newer than what was installed on my system.  So now, I'm scrolling through
a list of installed packages, and I notice that, for example, samba
now has a 2.0.7 *and* a 2.0.9 showing up.  Is this deliberate?







[expert] Software Manager

2001-04-23 Thread Digital Wokan

Okay, I've got Mandrake 8.0 installed, and now there's this Samba update
out.  Since MandrakeSoft seemed to think MandrakeUpdate was such a bad
thing, I'm trying to figure out this Software Manager they include.  I
got it set for security updates and picked a mirror, but I can't for the
life of me figure out how to install the Samba update without resorting
to ftp and the command line.
This is not a new problem to me.  I tried figuring this out before beta2
even hit the streets.  I had to resort to rpm -Fvh and rpm -Uvh more
often than not.
-- 
Digital Wokan, Tribal Mage of the Electronics Age
Guerilla Linux Warrior




Re: [expert] Software Manager

2001-04-23 Thread Haim Ashkenazi

Hi

well, the new software manager has a lot of problems. where is the search in 
description or file list? but I think the most important problem is the fact that some 
of the packages only appear in flat mode view. some of the most important ones are:
fvwm - my favorite window manager
bind-utils - how come this is not installed by default (even in workstation mode)? 
have you ever heard of a unix without nslookup?
knsplugin - konqueror doesn't accepts netscape plugins without it.
many others that I can't think of now.

I hope they'll fix that soon.

On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 11:00:42PM -0700, Digital Wokan wrote:
 Okay, I've got Mandrake 8.0 installed, and now there's this Samba update
 out.  Since MandrakeSoft seemed to think MandrakeUpdate was such a bad
 thing, I'm trying to figure out this Software Manager they include.  I
 got it set for security updates and picked a mirror, but I can't for the
 life of me figure out how to install the Samba update without resorting
 to ftp and the command line.
 This is not a new problem to me.  I tried figuring this out before beta2
 even hit the streets.  I had to resort to rpm -Fvh and rpm -Uvh more
 often than not.
 -- 
 Digital Wokan, Tribal Mage of the Electronics Age
 Guerilla Linux Warrior
 

Bye
-- 
Haim