[FairfieldLife] Re: Kentucky? Nah, it's Canada!

2006-02-10 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 The leadership of the USA consciously chose to kill to prempt 
 greater killing in the future. Trying to accomplish the near 
 impossible in the middle east, a functioning representative 
 democracy. I think that this was seem as the 'least evil' 
 solution to an intractable problem. As far as perpetuating 
 violence: there was and is plenty to go around. The US goal 
 is to diminish it. The Islamofascist goals are to topple
 major economies and political systems thru violence and 
 terror. If you can't turn the killer into a peace lover, 
 do you kill him or let him continue to kill?

John, I usually appreciate your point of view here,
but if you honestly believe that the US goal is to
diminish violence in the world, you really owe it
to yourself to download and watch a three-hour BBC
series called The Power of Nightmares.  It is 
available for download from:

http://www.archive.org/details/ThePowerOfNightmares

The authors of this series trace the roots of modern
problems back to their source, and make a strong case
for the stance of both the US Neocons and the Islamic
fundamentalists as *perpetuating* violence in the
world.  It's part of a conscious, well-documented
strategy on both sides.

This is a *powerful* series, that leaves the viewer
with very little doubt about the real motivations
of those who stay in power by selling nightmares.
They do this because they have no positive dreams
to sell.  Watch the series -- all of it -- and 
then come back here and tell us if you still 
believe that America's intent is to diminish
violence in the world.

The fascinating thing, for an open-minded TMer, is
to watch the series and think about how Maharishi's
language has shifted over the years into the realm
of scare tactics.  He still talks about Sat Yuga
and a better world, but his fund-raising efforts
these days are more often than not tied to pronoun-
cements of impending doom if people don't send in
their checks.  And for the *same* reasons as the
Neocons and the Islamic radicals == they are selling
a fundamentalist vision of a world in which *they*
are in charge.  That is the only world they can
imagine that would suit them.









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[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?

2006-02-10 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

   My favorite quote about eggs is from Harold Bloomfield,
   the once-famous TM doc, who said, If you can't remember
   what you had for breakfast, it was eggs.
  snip
 +++  Interesting how people are picking on eggs.
  I recall hearing that the hysteria concerning eggs was the 
 result of a study sponsored by the cereal institute- typical 
 big business bs.
  I average about a dozen a week and don't have amnesia.

Actually, you eat *several* dozen a week; you just
can't remember the rest of them.  :-)








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[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?

2006-02-10 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
  
   My favorite quote about eggs is from Harold Bloomfield,
   the once-famous TM doc, who said, If you can't remember
   what you had for breakfast, it was eggs.
   
   Then again, he was later called up on charges of drugging
   his female patients and molesting them, so you may not
   want to pay that much attention to his diet advice.  :-)
 
  HOw did that turn out, BTW? Was he convicted?
 
 http://tinyurl.com/dxgbf

Too bad.  He should have lost his license forever.
As I said earlier, he was too busy being a celebrity
to bother being a good doctor.  He put one of my TM
friends in the hospital by misprescribing drugs for
her, and several others told similar horror stories
of going to see him and coming away with their
medical problems having been made *worse*, not
better.  The general rap in the L.A. area at the
time was that you were probably better off seing
a witch doctor than Harold Bloomfield.







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[FairfieldLife] III 43: a German view

2006-02-10 Thread cardemaister

43. Kâyâkâshayoh sambandha-samyamât laghu-tûla-samâpattesh châkâsha-
gamanam 

Kâya = Körper; âkâshayoh = Raum, Äther; sambandha = Beziehung; 
samyamât = durch Übung von Samyama; laghu = leicht; tûla = Watte; 
samâpatteh = durch Verbindung; cha = und; âkâsha = Raum, Äther; 
gamanam = hineingehen, hindurchgehen 

Indem man Samyama auf die Verbindung zwischen Akasha und Körper und 
auf die Spannkraft leichter Gegenstände ausführt, erhält man die 
Fähigkeit, durch den Raum zu reisen. 

Hier ist die Astralreise beschrieben. Den ersten Teil, wie man den 
Körper verlassen kann, habe ich bereits erwähnt. 

„Spannkraft leichter Gegenstände gibt eine andere Technik an. Wir 
können uns konzentrieren auf Ge-genstände, die im Wind schweben. Dann 
bekommen wir auch die Fähigkeit, im Wind zu schweben und damit 
Astralreisen zu machen. Leichter, meine ich, ist die erste Methode. 


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Kentucky? Nah, it's Canada!

2006-02-10 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ 
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ 
  wrote:
   The leadership of the USA consciously chose to kill to prempt 
  greater
   killing in the future. Trying to accomplish the near 
impossible in 
  the
   middle east, a functioning representative democracy. I think 
that 
  this
   was seem as the 'least evil' solution to an intractable 
problem. As
   far as perpetuating violence: there was and is plenty to go 
around.
   The US goal is to diminish it. The Islamofascist goals are to 
  topple
   major economies and political systems thru violence and 
terror. If 
  you
   can't turn the killer into a peace lover, do you kill him or 
let 
  him
   continue to kill?
   
   JohnY
  
  Dude, drink the Kool-aid!
  
  This story that the US was always planning to foment democracy 
in 
  the Middle East only surfaced after the Bush crowd was caught 
lying 
  about the original justification for their mass killing; WMDs.
  
  Not only has the violent external imposition of democracy NEVER 
  worked before, it's a truly pathetic substitution for coherent 
  diplomacy, coupled with enforced economic sanctions. 
  
  Without fail, every time the US has meddled underhandedly in the 
  political affairs of another country, it has backfired on us. As 
it 
  has now again. I just read the responses of Sens. McCain and 
Biden 
  on the situation in Iraq. A complete failure.
  
  Your demonizing of the Islamic world is interesting- another 
piece 
  of revisionist propaganda by the Bush machine. As I said 
earlier, 
  when you cage people and poke sharp sticks at them, as we have 
done 
  to Iraq, then when they lash out in anger, it is easy to use 
that as 
  justification for your initial wrong actions. Police use this 
  occasionally to justify killing someone. 
  
  There are adherents in the Islamic world who are every bit as 
  radical as the Christian fundamentalists. Ironically they are 
now 
  finding fertile ground for violently forwarding their agenda- 
  something that was not possible before we declared war on them, 
at 
  least not in a unified way. 
  
  Just as we are now using the violent response to our Sin as 
further 
  justification to escalate our warring, so are the Islamic 
radicals 
  using our warring as justification for their continued violent 
  response against us.
  
  And I totally understand that what the US is doing militarily is 
  seen as an intelligent response from the standpoint of the 
ignorance 
  of waking state consciousness. Unfortunately, long term it will 
only 
  culture further violence against the US, and is doomed to 
failure 
  and further suffering. Very stupid policy.
 
 
 
 Jim, 
   I just don't care to go down this road on FFL. Sorry I brought 
it up.
 
 JohnY
 
 I've been spitting out the Kool-Aid for years... 
 Possibly ignorant, and in the waking state consciousness... :-) 
 Unfathomable is the course of action -- BG.
 Arjuna, stand up and fight!  -- Lord Krishna


I respect that. It is no fun for me to discuss this either. Please 
consider it closed.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?

2006-02-10 Thread feste37
If your point is that poverty in America is very different from poverty in, 
say, 
Bangladesh, of course that is true. It's obvious. Poverty is a relative 
concept. if 
you don't have the things that the majority of people in your society have, and 
therefore cannot participate fully in that society, you are poor. That's an 
approximation of a standard definition, I think, if I remember my social 
science 
classes from about 15 million  years ago. 

You ask about deprivations. Lack of health insurance, for one, which means 
that people see doctors less often than they should do and need to do, and so 
lack preventive care. Inability to pay for needed medications is another 
deprivation. Choosing between food and medication is another. I'm sure there 
are many more. It's called going without, and the poor quietly learn to do 
this, but that doesn't mean they are not poor. 





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wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
 
  Not really, 
 
 
 
 ...then what is there to discuss?
 
 
 
 
 but I know that the way you define poverty is so far out of the 
  mainstream that it has little meaning.
 
 
 
 
 Well, at least I defined it.  You won't and don't.
 
 
 
 
  I don't think a single social scientist or 
  politician would agree with your premise that poverty  has been 
 eliminated in 
  this country. I also think that your thinking is callous and shows 
 indifference to 
  the deprivations  suffered by many in the US today. 
 
 
 What deprivations, specifically?
 
 
 As for callousness and indifference I suggest it is you who shows 
 callousness to those in the world who truly suffer from genuine gut-
 wrenching poverty who could benefit from implementing in their own 
 country the social/economic make-up of the country where poverty has 
 been eliminated.
 
 
 
 
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
   
Shemp, are you from Texas?
   
   
   
   feste37, do you have a definition of poverty that you'd like 
 to 
   share with us?
   
   

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
 shempmcgurk@ 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante no_reply@ 
   wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ 
   wrote:
  
   I can't think of a suitable retort to this since I'm 
 still 
   reeling 
  from your stated
   belief that in the US, the poor have just as much access 
 to 
   health 
  care as the 
   rich. Someone who believes that will believe anything, 
 so 
   it's not 
  much use 
   talking to them about critical thinking. 
   
  
  Shemp should watch more Three Stooges movies (his heroes, 
   rightly 
 so), 
  and less Fox News, which has clearly caused brain damage.
 
 
 I don't watch much news -- Fox or otherwise -- as I find it 
   depressing.
 
 But what's more depressing is people who can't think for 
   themselves.  
 Poverty -- real poverty -- has been eliminated in the USA.  
 This 
   is an 
 incredible success story and should be acknowledged.  NOT to 
 do 
   so 
 does incredible damage to the real poor of the world because 
 if 
   those 
 of us living in the country where this success has taken 
 place 
   DENY 
 it, how can those that need to know of the solution (and 
 their 
 political leaders) possibly adopt this solution if we living 
   with the 
 solution say it isn't so?
 
 So, I know it's cool to be politically correct and all your 
   liberal 
 friends will keep you in their clique when you tow the party 
   line but 
 think a little of the damage you can do to the real poor of 
 the 
   world 
 before you take the stands that you do.

   
  
 







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[FairfieldLife] Highest amplitude gamma synchrony ever reported

2006-02-10 Thread Vaj


Paper to be discussed at Toward a Science of Consciousness 2006 April 4-8, Tucson Convention Center, Tucson, Arizona"In the Meditation session, Antoine Lutz and John Dunne will discuss their findings (e.g. their PNAS paper) on EEG in Tibetan monk meditators vs control meditators. They found in the Tibetans the highest amplitude gamma synchrony ever reported!"http://consciousness.arizona.edu/Tucson2006.htmComplete paper at:http://homepage.mac.com/vajranatha/FileSharing2.html





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[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?

2006-02-10 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- bbrigante wrote:

 I never saw the head cook extinguish his cigarette 
 by any means other than throwing it in the 
 root beer tank

In the case of AW root beer, that might *help* the flavor.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?

2006-02-10 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@ 
 wrote:
 
My favorite quote about eggs is from Harold Bloomfield,
the once-famous TM doc, who said, If you can't remember
what you had for breakfast, it was eggs.
   snip
  +++  Interesting how people are picking on eggs.
   I recall hearing that the hysteria concerning eggs was the 
  result of a study sponsored by the cereal institute- typical 
  big business bs.
   I average about a dozen a week and don't have amnesia.
 
 Actually, you eat *several* dozen a week; you just
 can't remember the rest of them.  :-)

+++ You must be right- I don't remember buying them.  N.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Are there many gods?

2006-02-10 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- bbrigante wrote:

 http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Jan/wnews_25jan2006_128.ram
 
 MMY answers at minute 34

Wow. It's been a while since I've seen Bevan or heard 
Maharishi. Kind of a blast from the past.

Bevan looks fine except for the dark skin around his 
eyes. The rapid blinking suggested some problem 
there, perhaps. Dryness? Allergies? Simple tiredness?

Maharishi sounded medicated himself. Cheerful and 
sharp, yes, but a bit slurred in the speech.

It was interesting to hear MMY say there's no effective 
difference between having one god or many gods as 
long as the many gods work together harmoniously. 
It's not a democracy, he said, which is kind of funny.

Do the gods cooperate with one another in Hindu 
mythology? In Norse and Greek myths, the gods don't 
all get along. It would be interesting and perhaps an 
advancement to have a pantheon work as one.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Are there many gods?

2006-02-10 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam 
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 It was interesting to hear MMY say there's no effective 
 difference between having one god or many gods as 
 long as the many gods work together harmoniously. 
 It's not a democracy, he said, which is kind of funny.
 
 Do the gods cooperate with one another in Hindu 
 mythology? In Norse and Greek myths, the gods don't 
 all get along. It would be interesting and perhaps an 
 advancement to have a pantheon work as one.

I always liked Joseph Campbell's term for the
structure of the Hindu pantheon -- 'polypantheism.'
He defined it as, Many gods, all of whom are the
boss.  

And it's true.  Who's in charge depends entirely
on which scripture and which verse you happen to
be reading.  They definitely could have benefitted
from an org chart to give to the seers to help them 
keep things straight.  :-)








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Are there many gods?

2006-02-10 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- TurquoiseB wrote:

 I always liked Joseph Campbell's term for the
 structure of the Hindu pantheon -- 'polypantheism.'
 He defined it as, Many gods, all of whom are the
 boss.  
 
 And it's true.  Who's in charge depends entirely
 on which scripture and which verse you happen to
 be reading.  They definitely could have benefitted
 from an org chart to give to the seers to help them 
 keep things straight.  :-)

Hmm. The world's first flat org chart?

As an aside for people interested in organization 
structure, Rudolf Steiner endorsed completely flat 
organizational structures. His view -- and the view 
of Waldorf schools now -- is that the enterprise
summons more power when decisions arise from 
the larger group, rather then being decreed from 
on high. 

It's often a disconnect for parents who come to a 
Waldorf school from the corporate world. They wander 
around for months or years wondering who's in 
charge before realizing everyone is.





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[FairfieldLife] Write a letter for Local Control

2006-02-10 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Write a letter for Local Control





-- Forwarded Message
From: JFAN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 06:14:23 -0800
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Write a letter for Local Control

Dear JFAN supporter:

We had a great turnout at last night's meeting! Each person wrote a letter asking state lawmakers to pass legislation for local control of hog confinements.
 
If you couldn't attend the meeting, it's not too late to write a letter. Please take a minute to write your letter today! This is a numbers game, and every letter makes a difference.  
 
Here's how you can easily write your letter:
 
1. Write your own letter, even just one paragraph  You can download instructions at http://www.jfaniowa.org/letter-points.html http://www.jfaniowa.org/letter-points.html  or http://www.jfaniowa.org/letter-points.html see them at the end of this email. You can see sample letters at the web addresses in #2 for ideas. Letters should be brief, cordial and heartfelt. (This is by far the more effective option.) OR
2. Use a form letter  If you dont think youll find the time to write your own letter, download one of the three form letters at http://www.jfaniowa.org/JFAN-local-control-letter-1-Rural-New1.doc http://www.jfaniowa.org/JFAN-local-control-letter-1-Rural-New1.doc , http://www.jfaniowa.org/JFAN-local-control-letter-21.doc http://www.jfaniowa.org/JFAN-local-control-letter-21.doc , or http://www.jfaniowa.org/JFAN-local-control-letter-31.doc http://www.jfaniowa.org/JFAN-local-control-letter-31.doc . Print it out, sign it and also write your name and address at the bottom of the letter.
3. Return your completed letter to JFAN  You can mail it to JFAN at P.O. Box 811, Fairfield, IA 52556, or take it to one of the drop-off boxes at Everybodys Whole Foods, Revelations, or EconoFoods. 
4. Form letters are also at drop-off  boxes  You can sign the letter with your name and address, and put it in the box. It would be great to add a personal note too.  
  
This is what JFAN will do:

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[FairfieldLife] Photos of Brahmastan of India

2006-02-10 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Photos of Brahmastan of India





This web site is a delightful photo story of the celebration and trip to 
India for January 12th, put together by a Russian Purusha. There is 
running English translation

http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/ 






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[FairfieldLife] Some Purusha in Livingston Manor

2006-02-10 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Some Purusha in Livingston Manor





From a friend:

Thought U would like this  perhaps even pass on to others as well Rick. Best in all from Bill Leed in Buffalo. ... ... ... other news 27 Purusha have the now arrived in L/ manor NY they are ones would either could not go to Holland or India for one or a number of reasons. The say they do projects there I know not if all do so some medical reasons others family reasons etc.  should or must be in NA. I note L/M will for a time be Purusha HQ  they also intend to soon build there SV but may well return to NC  the Blackhill property just purchased there  some 10-15 minutes east of Ashville, NC






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Are there many gods?

2006-02-10 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 It was interesting to hear MMY say there's no effective 
 difference between having one god or many gods as 
 long as the many gods work together harmoniously. 
 It's not a democracy, he said, which is kind of funny.
 
Yep- its a very interesting process to locate all 'external 
phenomena' within one's body, including the gods one is aware of. 
Then, using that orientation, democracy becomes a manifestation of 
sickness, a battle for dominant impulses within the body...

Also an interesting process to become aware of the characteristics 
of God, then recognize them within; fierceness of Shiva, 
peacefulness of Vishnu, etc. Next step: recognize these same 
qualities to one degree or another in each of us, and bring *that* 
within.

Eventually faces us with [another] incomprehensible paradox: how can 
all of *that* exist inside of just *this*? And yet it does...






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'

2006-02-10 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 2/9/06 11:14:35 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Wellstone. Remember the  son getting up at the mic 
  and chanting: We will win, We will win!Right. As you 
  noted, it was right before theelection. Wellstone had been running for 
  reelection,you see. Wellstone was an exceptionally 
  popularcrusading senator in Minnesota and among progressives."We will 
  win" was an _expression_ of hope that hislegacy would be carried on. 
  Such expressions arequite common at funerals. And the  
  booing of republicans that attended the funeral. Such Class!This 
  was *wildly* exaggerated by the right wing.There were only a few people 
  who booed Trent Lott.The right wing pretended it had been the 
  wholeaudience.I wonder how many would have booed had it been 
  thefuneral of a wildly popular Republican senator whohad been 
  tragically killed just before running forreelection, and former president 
  Clinton had walkedin.

Right, nice try at justifying the chanting of a son and crowd 
for political purposes at a Funeral/Pep Rally. The booing of Trent Lott was 
far from exaggerated, I saw it and heard it and it wasn't just a few. It was 
loud and rude.  Who booed Clinton when he came to Ronald Reagan's funeral 
where he and wife coped a few *z's* on the front row? The only remark I heard 
about that was from some comedian that commented late that it was probably the 
first time they had slept together in years.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?

2006-02-10 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The only time I ever noticed the effect of eggs on
 cognition was when I was in the philosophy major at
 MIU. We had to read quite a bit of Plato or
 Wittgenstein or whomever we where studying in that one
 month course every night and if I had eggs or eggs
 where in something I ate for dinner I could feel that
 my mind could not hold its attention very well and
 would slide off focus easily. Other philosophy
 majors noticed this too.  
 
That is interesting. Just curious, are you a vegetarian now?






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Some Purusha in Livingston Manor

2006-02-10 Thread Sal Sunshine
This guy needs a quick course in grammar.

Sal


On Feb 10, 2006, at 10:21 AM, Rick Archer wrote:

 other news 27 Purusha have the now arrived in L/ manor NY they are ones would either could not go to Holland or India for  one or a number of reasons. The say they do projects there I know not if all do so some medical reasons others family reasons etc.  should or must be in NA

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'

2006-02-10 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 2/9/06 11:15:01 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Obviously Kennedy shouldn't have approved the wiretaps in the 
  first place--at least morally; it was legal for him to do 
  so--and apparently he did so reluctantly.  But how 
  MDixon thinks the FBI's vastly worse behavior reflects badly on 
  *Teddy* Kennedy, who has been outspokenly opposed to Bush's 
  ILLEGAL wiretapping of many thousands of Americans, is really 
  hard to figure. Absolutely 
  incredible.Not so incredible once you know the way this woman 
  thinks.She supports old racist and segregationists like Al Gore Sr. 
  who voted against the Civil Rights Act because she'll defend Democrats 
  uber alles.

What I found incredible was that She can defend to the hilt or 
apologize for Robert Kennedy who was allowing the spying on of an American civil 
rights leader who did no harm to anybody but became the closest thing to an 
American saint. Yet, bash Bush using his authority to protect American citizens 
from acts of terrorism like we saw on 911 and for years prior to that. I would 
just like Judy to tell me the name of one American citizen that has been spied 
on illegally. Perhaps Al Qaida needs a *bill of rights*. I really believe in my 
heart of hearts that America's most liberal are really pissed that terrorism 
hasn't hit home again big time just so they can blame it on 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Kentucky? Nah, it's Canada!

2006-02-10 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ 
 wrote:
 
  The leadership of the USA consciously chose to kill to prempt 
  greater killing in the future. Trying to accomplish the near 
  impossible in the middle east, a functioning representative 
  democracy. I think that this was seem as the 'least evil' 
  solution to an intractable problem. As far as perpetuating 
  violence: there was and is plenty to go around. The US goal 
  is to diminish it. The Islamofascist goals are to topple
  major economies and political systems thru violence and 
  terror. If you can't turn the killer into a peace lover, 
  do you kill him or let him continue to kill?
 
 John, I usually appreciate your point of view here,
 but if you honestly believe that the US goal is to
 diminish violence in the world, you really owe it
 to yourself to download and watch a three-hour BBC
 series called The Power of Nightmares.  It is 
 available for download from:
 
 http://www.archive.org/details/ThePowerOfNightmares

  I will take a look. BTW, I didn't say 'the world' I said the lesser
evil in the middle east. Just like I don't think that the TMO's
motives are pure or presented clearly, US's aren't either but I don't
think they are anywhere near as conspiritoral as all the hard lefties
think they are. It's always amazed me that so many TB's and former
TB's are so hard left in for a dime in for a dollar, I guess. I
express a different point of view than is normally expressed here, and
all of a sudden Jim labels me an ignorant waking state  Kool-Aid
drinker, sheesh. Actually Jim forgets that we share a whole background
of similar TM experience. 

JohnY 
  
  






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'

2006-02-10 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 2/9/06 11:31:33 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yes, a 
  lot of people actually *believed* theextraordinary exaggerations and 
  distortions spread by the right wing about the 
funeral.

Wrong Judy! They saw it for themselves on TV! It was played 
over and over again. It was a total disgrace and was 
repugnant.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'

2006-02-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 2/9/06 11:14:35 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Wellstone.
 
  Remember the 
  son getting up at the mic  and chanting: We will win, We  will 
win!
 
 Right.  As you  noted, it was right before the
 election. Wellstone had been running for  reelection,
 you see.  Wellstone was an exceptionally  popular
 crusading senator in Minnesota and among progressives.
 We will  win was an expression of hope that his
 legacy would be carried on.   Such expressions are
 quite common at funerals.
 
  And the 
   booing of republicans that attended the funeral. Such  Class!
 
 This  was *wildly* exaggerated by the right wing.
 There were only a few people  who booed Trent Lott.
 The right wing pretended it had been the  whole
 audience.
 
 I wonder how many would have booed had it been  the
 funeral of a wildly popular Republican senator who
 had been  tragically killed just before running for
 reelection, and former president  Clinton had walked
 in.
 
 Right, nice try at justifying the chanting of a son and crowd  for 
 political purposes at a Funeral/Pep Rally.

That wasn't a justification; it *needed* no justification,
as I've already pointed out (to no response from you).

 The booing of Trent Lott was  far from 
 exaggerated, I saw it and heard it and it wasn't just a few. It
 was  loud and rude.

The sound was turned up on the clips to exaggerate it.
Those who were actually *there* at the rally are very
clear that it was just a few people.

 Who booed Clinton when he came to Ronald Reagan's funeral  where he 
 and wife coped a few *z's* on the front row?

Have some more Kool-Aid.  Boy, they really have you
going.



 The only remark I heard  about that was 
 from some comedian that commented late that it was probably the  
first time 
 they had slept together in years.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Kentucky? Nah, it's Canada!

2006-02-10 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 The fascinating thing, for an open-minded TMer, is
 to watch the series and think about how Maharishi's
 language has shifted over the years into the realm
 of scare tactics.  He still talks about Sat Yuga
 and a better world, but his fund-raising efforts
 these days are more often than not tied to pronoun-
 cements of impending doom if people don't send in
 their checks.  


Maharishi's language these days seems to be slightly subtler and more
elitist version of Oral Roberts fund raising techniques. Very
disappointing, and quite an illusion shatterer. 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'

2006-02-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 2/9/06 11:15:01 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   Obviously Kennedy shouldn't have approved the wiretaps
  in the  first  place--at least morally; it was legal for
  him to do  so--and apparently he  did so reluctantly.
  
  But how  MDixon thinks the FBI's vastly worse  behavior
  reflects badly on  *Teddy* Kennedy, who has been  outspokenly
  opposed to Bush's  ILLEGAL wiretapping of many thousands  of
  Americans, is really  hard to figure.
  
  
  
  
  Absolutely  incredible.
 
 
 Not so incredible once you know the way this woman  thinks.
 
 She supports old racist and segregationists like Al Gore Sr.  who 
 voted against the Civil Rights Act because she'll defend Democrats  
 uber alles.
 
 What I found incredible was that She can defend to the hilt or 
 apologize for Robert Kennedy who was allowing the spying on of an 
 American civil  rights leader who did no harm to anybody but became 
 the closest thing to an  American saint.

I explicitly said he should not have done it.

Then I pointed out that he underwent a major
transformation in his character after his
brother's death.

Do you deny either of those points?

 Yet, bash Bush using his authority to protect American citizens  
 from acts of terrorism like we saw on 911 and for years prior to 
 that.

You are going to croak from Kool-Aid poisoning.

 I would  just 
 like Judy to tell me the name of one American citizen that has been 
 spied on illegally.

How can I do that?  The administration certainly
isn't going to tell me, nor has it informed the
innocent people that they've been illegally spied
upon.

However, those in a position to know say many
thousands of Americans have been surveilled, and
in almost all cases no connection to terrorism has
been found.

 Perhaps Al Qaida needs a *bill of rights*. I 
 really believe in my heart of hearts that America's most liberal 
 are really pissed that terrorism  
 hasn't hit home again big time just so they can blame it on  Bush.

If you really believe that, you're *deeply* disturbed.

In any case, the conclusive rebuttal to the right-
wingers who claim the administration should be
allowed to spy on Americans is:

President Hillary Rodham Clinton.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'

2006-02-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 2/9/06 11:31:33 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
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 Yes, a  lot of people actually *believed* the
 extraordinary exaggerations and  distortions 
 spread by the right wing about the  funeral.
 
 Wrong Judy! They saw it for themselves on TV! It was played  over and 
 over again. It was a total disgrace and was repugnant.

As I said: The *commentary* on the funeral significantly
exaggerated and distorted what actually went on.  Plus
which, the notion that people should not say anything
political at the funeral of a popular politician who
had been running for reelection when he was tragically
killed is so downright *stupid* it's almost impossible
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'

2006-02-10 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 2/10/06 10:45:49 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Right. As you noted, it was right before the election. 
  Wellstone had been running for reelection, you see. 
  Wellstone was an exceptionally popular crusading senator in 
  Minnesota and among progressives. "We will win" was an 
  _expression_ of hope that his legacy would be carried on. 
  Such expressions are quite common at 
funerals.

Oh really? Maybe you can fill us in on some of these other 
funerals where the eulogizers and attendees all break out in chanting and 
spewing hatred and venom towards their political foes. Since it's so common I'm 
sure you can tell us about 2 or 3 of them you personally witnessed. Abby Hoffman 
or Bobby Seal maybe?





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'

2006-02-10 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 2/10/06 10:45:49 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 The 
  booing of Trent Lott was far from  exaggerated, I saw it and 
  heard it and it wasn't just a few. It was loud and 
  rude.The sound was turned up on the clips to exaggerate it.Those 
  who were actually *there* at the rally are veryclear that it was just a 
  few people.

Nice try again Judy. I saw it live and it was shown on 
different stations and they were all equally loud. If one turned up and 
distorted the volume to sound like more, then they all did it, which is a little 
too much for me to believe. I guess all the sound techs for all the major 
stations could have been republicans, part of the right wing conspiracy, who all 
conspired to turn up and distort the booing to make it sound really 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Photos of Brahmastan of India

2006-02-10 Thread Vaj


Very nice--thanks for sharing that.On Feb 10, 2006, at 11:11 AM, Rick Archer wrote: This web site is a delightful photo story of the   celebration and trip to  India for January 12th, put together by a   Russian Purusha. There is  running English translation  http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Or go to:  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'SPONSORED LINKS  Maharishi university of management  Maharishi mahesh yogi  Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.  





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'

2006-02-10 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 2/10/06 10:45:49 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Who 
  booed Clinton when he came to Ronald Reagan's funeral where he  
  and wife coped a few *z's* on the front row?Have some more 
  Kool-Aid. Boy, they really have 
yougoing.

You said republicans would have done the same. I gave you the 
closest example of Clinton attending a funeral for a republican and no such 
thing ever occurred. He was treated with dignity and respect and nobody took 
political pot shots at him. Clearly , well mannered people know how to conduct 
themselves at a funeral or memorial and come together in peaceto 
honor the fallen person regardless of their political positions. And then, some 
just don't get it.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'

2006-02-10 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 2/10/06 10:54:21 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
How can 
  I do that? The administration certainlyisn't going to tell me, nor 
  has it informed theinnocent people that they've been illegally 
  spiedupon.However, those in a position to know say 
  manythousands of Americans have been surveilled, andin almost all 
  cases no connection to terrorism hasbeen 
found.

Relying on hearsay? Have you heard the whole story? Do you 
have all the facts?





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[FairfieldLife] FW: rick correction on Purusha new property in NC its Black Mountain NOT hill

2006-02-10 Thread Rick Archer
Title: FW: rick correction on Purusha new property in NC its Black Mountain NOT hill






The location is 15 miles directly east of Asheville NC. no info on the acres as yet. That's miles NOT minutes east.







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'

2006-02-10 Thread MDixon6569





Honor 
 Civility, RIP 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Kentucky? Nah, it's Canada!

2006-02-10 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
 
  The fascinating thing, for an open-minded TMer, is
  to watch the series and think about how Maharishi's
  language has shifted over the years into the realm
  of scare tactics.  He still talks about Sat Yuga
  and a better world, but his fund-raising efforts
  these days are more often than not tied to pronoun-
  cements of impending doom if people don't send in
  their checks.  
 
 
 Maharishi's language these days seems to be slightly subtler and 
more
 elitist version of Oral Roberts fund raising techniques. Very
 disappointing, and quite an illusion shatterer. 
 
 JohnY

I remember someone asking him a long time ago how he would 
accomplish his goal of enlightening the world, and he said something 
like, I will reproduce myself.

And That is only possible if he first destroys any attachments to 
him. Down the path, down the path, down the path...cliff edge...






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[FairfieldLife] Eggs-what Maharishi said (for those who care)

2006-02-10 Thread anonyff
On my TTC, back in early '71, in a big discussion about diet, prompted
as I recall, by Andy Kaufman, who relentlessly pursued this topic with
M, M said, about eggs:

One egg in a lifetime is too many.







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[FairfieldLife] Insults to the Mahatma, ignored by India

2006-02-10 Thread Rick Archer
http://ia.rediff.com/news/2006/feb/09guest.htm?q=spfile=.htm




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Eggs-what Maharishi said (for those who care)

2006-02-10 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 2/10/06 12:12:49 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On my 
  TTC, back in early '71, in a big discussion about diet, promptedas I 
  recall, by Andy Kaufman, who relentlessly pursued this topic withM, M 
  said, about eggs:"One egg in a lifetime is too 
many."

So can you imagine all the life times of purification we need 
for all those eggs, bacon, ham, sausage hamburgers, steaks we had before giving 
up meat?





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[FairfieldLife] FW: [nhnenews] 'Buddha Boy' Update 5

2006-02-10 Thread Rick Archer
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BUDDHA BOY HAS NATION GUESSING: HOLY OR HOAX?
By Connie Levett
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February 11, 2006

http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/buddha-boy-has-nation-guessing-holy-or-h
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IN SOME ways, Ram Bahadur Bomjan is a typical teenager: he loves his
cricket, he sits with shoulders slumped, hair falling into his eyes,
uninterested in the world.

In other ways, he is definitely not. For the past nine months, the
15-year-old has sat, meditating at the base of a peepal tree in Nepal's Bara
District, without food, water, sleep or the need to use the toilet. If that
was not remarkable enough, on January 19, he spontaneously combusted,
burning off the clothes he has worn for nine months but leaving no scars.
Lest there be doubters, his followers caught that combustion on video and
plan to present the footage, seen by The Age, at a news conference in
Kathmandu, soon.

The Buddha Boy, as he is known in Nepal, is a source of equal scepticism and
reverence. To the doubters, it is an elaborate scam, which has drawn
thousands of pilgrims, domestic and international, to a dirt poor area of
Nepal's terrai region.

To the pilgrims and merchants in the food bazaar that have sprung up to
cater to them, there is no questioning the boy's legitimacy. He is the
reincarnation of the Lord Buddha, despite the boy's own denials.

Last November, he briefly emerged from his meditation to announce: Tell
people not to call me the Buddha, I do not have the Buddha's energy, I am
only at tapaswi level. A tapaswi is a sage who practises austerities.

To find the Buddha Boy's forest shrine, you travel 250 kilometres south of
Kathmandu.

The final kilometre of the pilgrimage is on foot, to prevent traffic
disturbing the boy's meditative state. At the site, a series of fenced
alleys loop through the forest, directing pilgrims in a one-way stream past
the open front of the peepal tree where the boy, with distinctive sloping
shoulders, sits slumped inside. Pilgrims are kept at 30 metres distance as
they walk past the donation boxes stuffed full of Nepalese rupees.

We believe him, he has been meditating without food for the last six or
seven months, (and) we cannot live for even one day without food, said
Shesh Raj Lamichhane, 30, a member of the bazaar management committee. Many
people are staying through the night and nobody has seen him eating. At
night the forest site is dark and only his supporters stand guard.

Mr Lamichhane said on the most holy day of Dashain festival last year, there
were 4800 vehicles in a single day.

Those who grew up with Ram are surprised at his sudden fame. Prem Lama, his
boyhood friend, said he had no sense during his childhood that Ram would be
special.

Prem is the only one who goes within five metres of the tapaswi and whom he
very occasionally communicates through. Whenever we talk, it's a one-way
conversation. He doesn't ask questions, said Prem.

Outside his own village, many are doubters. However, Upendra Lamichhane, a
local reporter for the leading Nepalese paper Kantipur who has visited the
site 10 times, believes the villagers are too innocent to pull off such a
hoax.

The local district administration, concerned about a fraud and whispers that
the boy was in fact a statue or a corpse, sent in a medical team from nearby
Kalaiya hospital.

His colleagues went two months ago to investigate but were not allowed
within five metres.

The last message from the tapaswi, after he spontaneously combusted, was
addressed to those who doubt him, saying the fire showed the reality of his
power and he would use it another three times during his meditation.

However, the fire has only raised new doubts. He had reportedly been
sparking over several days before the fire. On January 19, at 8.30 in the
evening, with 59 witnesses, fire erupted from his chest. Rasham K.C., the
shrine's photographer happened to be sitting close by and ran to record it.

The video is unlikely to convince the doubters and raises new questions.

If the fire is a fraud then the boy himself and many of the innocent
villagers are implicated in an increasingly elaborate hoax.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?

2006-02-10 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If your point is that poverty in America is very different from
poverty in, say, 
 Bangladesh, of course that is true. It's obvious. Poverty is a
relative concept.

Yes and no. There is an absolute level of poverty that was the point
of the original remarks -- characterized by severe lack of food,
shleter, clothing and transportation, and of course higher level
necessities -- healthcare, education, etc. This absolute level of
poverty has been almost eliminated in modern countries. That is a
great achievement given that it has been a hallmark of mankind forever.




 if 
 you don't have the things that the majority of people in your
society have, and 
 therefore cannot participate fully in that society, you are poor. 

So your view leads to a conclusion that there will always be poor,
there will always be a lowest 10-20% in the socio-economic strata. 
Several interesting points come from this view:

1) It would imply those leading a spiritual and/or ecological
ultra-low consumption lifestyle are impoverished -- even though its
possible that such persons are the happiest people on earth. 

2) The contemporary poor in any age may have access to goods and
sevices unavailable to and even undreamed of by the richest 100 or
even 50 years earlier.  Current poor may not have access to all
available modern medications. (Though most/many in US are). Yet 50
years ago, even the richest had no access to such drugs, at any price.
And most poor have internet access. To me, the internet is a dream
come true of many lives -- instant access to much -- growing to most
--knowledge. 100 years ago, I would have paid a $millon for such, but
even at that price, it was not available.


 You ask about deprivations. Lack of health insurance, for one, which
means 
 that people see doctors less often than they should do and need to
do, and so 
 lack preventive care. Inability to pay for needed medications is
another 
 deprivation. Choosing between food and medication is another. 

A choice that was not even available to the richest strata 50 years
ago. 100-200 years ago, it would be great fortune for the (average in)
richest strata to live as long as the average poor person today.


I'm sure there 
 are many more. It's called going without, and the poor quietly
learn to do  this, but that doesn't mean they are not poor. 

Going without that which was only recently unavailable to all a few
years ago. 

I bet you would crave to live today the poor lifestyle of 50 years
from now.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: rick correction on Purusha new property in NC its Black Mountain NOT hil

2006-02-10 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 The location is 15  miles directly east of Asheville NC. no info on the
 acres as yet. That's miles NOT minutes east.


Are they going to change the name to BrightMountain (al la raja john
bright aka john black)






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Eggs-what Maharishi said (for those who care)

2006-02-10 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonyff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On my TTC, back in early '71, in a big discussion about diet, prompted
 as I recall, by Andy Kaufman, who relentlessly pursued this topic with
 M, M said, about eggs:
 
 One egg in a lifetime is too many.

Many / most of us took bag lunches so we could stay in our rooms and
round all day. Food service was handled by the local spanish hotel
staff. They always included a hard-boiled egg in the bag. At the
elevators in the Karina (sp?) was a daily growing huge pyramid of
eggs. Despite the plea of no eggs in our broken spanish. 

(Since in spanish, as I understand, there is only a suble difference
in the word for eggs wavos phonetic spelling,  and the word for
testicles. The kitchen staff probably thought we were saying No
balls! Which I am sure they thought appropriate for guys staying in
their rooms all day long.)








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Eggs-what Maharishi said (for those who care)

2006-02-10 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonyff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On my TTC, back in early '71, in a big discussion about diet, prompted
 as I recall, by Andy Kaufman, who relentlessly pursued this topic with
 M, M said, about eggs:
 
 One egg in a lifetime is too many.

What physiologically, chemically nutritionally, even spiritually, is
wrong with eggs? I didn't eat them until a few years ago. I find one
or so a day quite digestible and an excellent filler source of amino
acids not so rich in more veg diet. No bad effect on memory (that I
can remember :) ).









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[FairfieldLife] Re: Eggs-what Maharishi said (for those who care)

2006-02-10 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonyff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On my TTC, back in early '71, in a big discussion about diet, prompted
 as I recall, by Andy Kaufman, who relentlessly pursued this topic with
 M, M said, about eggs:
 
 One egg in a lifetime is too many.

I found huge benefits from the specific advice of Brahman Tom (T), go
suck eggs. Realized Hiranyagarbha in its fullness.

Then I moved on to move advanced  teachings of Brahman Tom (P) Eat
Shit. I tried that and quickly realized Brahman in all things (its
the only way you can choke it down.)

Go Brahman Toms!

 









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[FairfieldLife] Re: Photos of Brahmastan/ Girish Varma

2006-02-10 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This web site is a delightful photo story of the   celebration and trip to
 India for January 12th, put together by a   Russian Purusha. There is
 running English translation
 
 http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/

 The photos were great.  But who is Girish Varma, exactly?  
What does he do in the TMO?  His picture is hung on the wall in the background 
of a few 
photos, and his picture is the same size as and right next to that of Maharishi.





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[FairfieldLife] EFF gives a big thumbs-down to Google Desktop feature

2006-02-10 Thread TurquoiseB
For those of you concerned about privacy issues, here's
an interesting report from the Electronic Frontier 
Foundation on the new Search Across Computers feature
of Google Desktop.  It definitely sounds like something
you'd want to avoid.

http://www.eff.org/news/archives/2006_02.php#004400








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Photos of Brahmastan/ Girish Varma

2006-02-10 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- wayback71 wrote:
  
  http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/
 
  who is Girish Varma, exactly?  
 What does he do in the TMO?  His picture is 
 hung on the wall in the background of a few 
 photos, and his picture is the same size as 
 and right next to that of Maharishi.

I noticed that, too. He looks like a sweet guy,
but that photo suggests something else. I know
it's not uncommon for high-level executives
to aggrandize themselves, but a giant portrait
of one's self on one's office wall smacks more 
of Saddam Hussein than Donald Trump.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] EFF gives a big thumbs-down to Google Desktop feature

2006-02-10 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote:

For those of you concerned about privacy issues, here's
an interesting report from the Electronic Frontier 
Foundation on the new Search Across Computers feature
of Google Desktop.  It definitely sounds like something
you'd want to avoid.

http://www.eff.org/news/archives/2006_02.php#004400

  

And as long as they wan to scan our e-mail, blogs  websites for “our 
own protection?” Give them something good to read! Let’s overload their 
systems.
Read how:
http://tvnewslies.org/blog/?p=290



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Photos of Brahmastan/ Girish Varma

2006-02-10 Thread Rick Archer
on 2/10/06 1:23 PM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 This web site is a delightful photo story of the   celebration and trip to
 India for January 12th, put together by a   Russian Purusha. There is
 running English translation
 
 http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/
 
  The photos were great.  But who is Girish Varma, exactly?
 What does he do in the TMO?  His picture is hung on the wall in the background
 of a few 
 photos, and his picture is the same size as and right next to that of
 Maharishi.

He is Maharishi's nephew, and AFAIK, he's the head cheese over there.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'

2006-02-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 2/10/06 10:45:49 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   Right.  As you  noted, it was right before the
  election.  Wellstone had been running for  reelection,
  you see.   Wellstone was an exceptionally  popular
  crusading senator in  Minnesota and among progressives.
  We will  win was an  expression of hope that his
  legacy would be carried on.Such expressions are
  quite common at  funerals.
 
 Oh really? Maybe you can fill us in on some of these other  
 funerals where the eulogizers and attendees all break out in 
 chanting and  spewing hatred and venom towards their political foes.

I don't believe that was the kind of service I said
was very common, actually.  But then your description
doesn't fit the Wellstone service either. What hatred
and venom towards their political foes was spewed?

From what I read and saw, the politically oriented
portion of the service (about 20 minutes out of several
hours, BTW) was pro-liberal, not anti-conservative.

 Since it's so common I'm  sure you can tell 
 us about 2 or 3 of them you personally witnessed.

Obviously services for popular politicians tragically
killed right before an election don't happen very
often.  Services for politicians and activists who
die in other contexts, however, in which speakers
talk about the deceased's goals and express the hope
that those goals will continue to be pursued are, as
I noted, very common.  In fact, it would be *unusual*
if they did not.




 Abby Hoffman  or Bobby Seal 
 maybe?







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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'

2006-02-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 2/10/06 10:45:49 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 com writes:
 
  The  booing of Trent Lott was  far from 
  exaggerated, I saw it and  heard it and it wasn't just a few. It
  was  loud and  rude.
 
 The sound was turned up on the clips to exaggerate it.
 Those  who were actually *there* at the rally are very
 clear that it was just a  few people.
 
 Nice try again Judy. I saw it live and it was shown on  different
 stations and they were all equally loud. If one turned up and 
 distorted the volume to sound like more, then they all did it, 
 which is a little  too much for me to believe.

Oh, please.  Of course they all did it, just as they
all did it with the Dean scream, simply because it
makes a better story.




 I guess all the 
 sound techs for all the major  stations could have been epublicans, 
part of the right wing conspiracy, who all  conspired to turn up 
 and distort the booing to make it sound really  bad.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'

2006-02-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 2/10/06 10:45:49 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Who  booed Clinton when he came to Ronald Reagan's funeral  where 
  he and wife coped a few *z's* on the front row?
 
 Have some more  Kool-Aid.  Boy, they really have  you
 going.
 
 You said republicans would have done the same. I gave you the  
 closest example of Clinton attending a funeral for a republican

For *Ronald Reagan*.  Not close enough, sorry.





 and no such  thing ever 
 occurred. He was treated with dignity and respect and nobody took  
political pot 
 shots at him. Clearly , well mannered people know how to conduct  
themselves at 
 a funeral or memorial and  come together in peace to  honor the 
fallen person 
 regardless of their political positions. And then, some  just don't 
get it.







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: EFF gives a big thumbs-down to Google Desktop feature

2006-02-10 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

TurquoiseB wrote:



For those of you concerned about privacy issues, here's
an interesting report from the Electronic Frontier 
Foundation on the new Search Across Computers feature
of Google Desktop.  It definitely sounds like something
you'd want to avoid.

http://www.eff.org/news/archives/2006_02.php#004400
  

And as long as they wan to scan our e-mail, blogs  websites 
for our own protection? Give them something good to read! 
Let's overload their systems.
Read how:
http://tvnewslies.org/blog/?p=290



Ironically enough, the website at this link attempted
to plant two spyware tracking cookies on my machine.

You'd think that the people who rant about this stuff
would've done the homework on their own ISPs.
  

This reason that I do most all this stuff on Linux box. ;-)



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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'

2006-02-10 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
 
   
  In a message dated 2/10/06 10:45:49 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  com writes:
  
   The  booing of Trent Lott was  far from 
   exaggerated, I saw it and  heard it and it wasn't just a few. It
   was  loud and  rude.
  
  The sound was turned up on the clips to exaggerate it.
  Those  who were actually *there* at the rally are very
  clear that it was just a  few people.
  
  Nice try again Judy. I saw it live and it was shown on  different
  stations and they were all equally loud. If one turned up and 
  distorted the volume to sound like more, then they all did it, 
  which is a little  too much for me to believe.
 
 Oh, please.  Of course they all did it, just as they
 all did it with the Dean scream, simply because it
 makes a better story.

Fox News has been showing a clip a black preacher speaking at the
service with the sound edited out and then commenting on how no-one
applauded the guy.









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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'

2006-02-10 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
 
   
  In a message dated 2/9/06 11:15:01 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
  shempmcgurk@ writes:
  
Obviously Kennedy shouldn't have approved the wiretaps
   in the  first  place--at least morally; it was legal for
   him to do  so--and apparently he  did so reluctantly.
   
   But how  MDixon thinks the FBI's vastly worse  behavior
   reflects badly on  *Teddy* Kennedy, who has been  outspokenly
   opposed to Bush's  ILLEGAL wiretapping of many thousands  of
   Americans, is really  hard to figure.
   
   
   
   
   Absolutely  incredible.
  
  
  Not so incredible once you know the way this woman  thinks.
  
  She supports old racist and segregationists like Al Gore Sr.  
who 
  voted against the Civil Rights Act because she'll defend 
Democrats  
  uber alles.
  
  What I found incredible was that She can defend to the hilt or 
  apologize for Robert Kennedy who was allowing the spying on of 
an 
  American civil  rights leader who did no harm to anybody but 
became 
  the closest thing to an  American saint.
 
 I explicitly said he should not have done it.
 
 Then I pointed out that he underwent a major
 transformation in his character after his
 brother's death.
 
 Do you deny either of those points?
 
  Yet, bash Bush using his authority to protect American citizens  
  from acts of terrorism like we saw on 911 and for years prior to 
  that.
 
 You are going to croak from Kool-Aid poisoning.
 
  I would  just 
  like Judy to tell me the name of one American citizen that has 
been 
  spied on illegally.
 
 How can I do that?  The administration certainly
 isn't going to tell me, nor has it informed the
 innocent people that they've been illegally spied
 upon.
 
 However, those in a position to know say many
 thousands of Americans have been surveilled, and
 in almost all cases no connection to terrorism has
 been found.
 
  Perhaps Al Qaida needs a *bill of rights*. I 
  really believe in my heart of hearts that America's most liberal 
  are really pissed that terrorism  
  hasn't hit home again big time just so they can blame it on  
Bush.
 
 If you really believe that, you're *deeply* disturbed.
 
 In any case, the conclusive rebuttal to the right-
 wingers who claim the administration should be
 allowed to spy on Americans is:
 
 President Hillary Rodham Clinton.


If her presidency will be anything like her husband's, I would 
support her 100%.

Bill Clinton's presidency was characterized by the implementation of 
conservative principals we haven't seen since Reagan.  Certainly, no 
one can say that the present Bush administration -- and Republican 
House and Senate! -- with its tax and spend $2.4 trillion deficit 
and intact Social Security program and still intact progressive 
income tax system is conservative...it isn't.

So why not try another Clinton administration along with a 
Republican House and Senate, as was the case for 6 of 8 Bill Clinton 
years?

Of course, it irks me that a woman whose only claim to fame is that 
she is a wife of a somebody and is a nobody in her own right can 
aspire to the presidency...especially when a MUCH more qualified and 
self-made woman like Condi Rice will be available...






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'

2006-02-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 2/10/06 10:54:21 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 How can  I do that?  The administration certainly
 isn't going to tell me, nor  has it informed the
 innocent people that they've been illegally  spied
 upon.
 
 However, those in a position to know say  many
 thousands of Americans have been surveilled, and
 in almost all  cases no connection to terrorism has
 been  found.
 
 Relying on hearsay?

Relying on what's been reported in the newspapers
of what these people have said.  There was a major
story in the NY Times last week.  And even Gonzales
has said he couldn't guarantee the program wouldn't
spy on innocent Americans.

Have you heard the whole story? Do you  have all the 
 facts?

I don't believe there is anything more to the facts
of what I stated: thousands of Americans have been
surveilled, and in almost all cases no connection
to terrorism has been found.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'

2006-02-10 Thread TurquoiseB
   The  booing of Trent Lott was  far from 
   exaggerated, I saw it and  heard it and it wasn't just a few.
   It was loud and rude.
  
  The sound was turned up on the clips to exaggerate it.
  Those  who were actually *there* at the rally are very
  clear that it was just a  few people.
  
  Nice try again Judy. I saw it live and it was shown on  different
  stations and they were all equally loud. If one turned up and 
  distorted the volume to sound like more, then they all did it, 
  which is a little  too much for me to believe.
 
 Oh, please.  Of course they all did it, just as they
 all did it with the Dean scream, simply because it
 makes a better story.

It's very possible that the TV station sound 
techs were anti-TMers as well.  I wouldn't
trust anybody if I were you.  :-)







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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'

2006-02-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 2/10/06 10:58:00 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Plus
 which, the notion that people should not say  anything
 political at the funeral of a popular politician who
 had been  running for reelection when he was tragically
 killed is so downright  *stupid* it's almost impossible
 to imagine anybody actually thinking it  made any sense.
 
 Speaking about the politics and what Paul Weldstone stood for  is
 not what was objectionable. It was the political attacking

Please quote the attacks.

 the chanting

What's wrong with chanting?

 the ranting and raving

You'll have to be more specific.

And remember the circumstances--who Wellstone was
and when he was killed.

 and the booing

Nobody liked the booing, but it wasn't *nearly*
as bad as it has been portrayed, as I've already
pointed out.

 that normal people found objectionable. It was  not a 
 time of peace and reflection on his accomplishments. It turned into 
 attack  on his political opponents.

Please quote the attacks on his political opponents.
Just quote *one* attack.

 No class, cheap,and  despirate.

To me, telling mourners how to conduct a memorial
service for someone they loved and you didn't is
about as lacking in class as anything I can think
of.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'

2006-02-10 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 2/10/06 10:45:49 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 com writes:
 
  The  booing of Trent Lott was  far from 
  exaggerated, I saw it and  heard it and it wasn't just a few. It
  was  loud and  rude.
 
 The sound was turned up on the clips to exaggerate it.
 Those  who were actually *there* at the rally are very
 clear that it was just a  few people.
 
 
 
 Nice try again Judy. I saw it live and it was shown on  different 
stations 
 and they were all equally loud. If one turned up and  distorted 
the volume to 
 sound like more, then they all did it, which is a little  too much 
for me to 
 believe. I guess all the sound techs for all the major  stations 
could have been 
 republicans, part of the right wing conspiracy, who all  conspired 
to turn up 
 and distort the booing to make it sound really  bad.


Probably due to the acoustics of the Church/Temple/meeting hall 
where the funeral was taking place.

Reminds me of the State of the Union Address by Clinton during the 
Monica scandal.  That was the one where there was serious discussion 
about not having Clinton appear (which would have been hard to do 
seeing that the State of the Union is a constitutional requirement)
due to the scandal.  But he did speak...and because of the acoustics 
of the House or Senate (not sure which is the one in which the 
president gives the address), even just one person cheering or 
clapping sounds like 20 people...

And this went a long way towards Clinton saving his presidency 
because the impression it gave was that many, many people were 
cheering him regardless of the actual number who were because of the 
acoustics.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'

2006-02-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
  

   In a message dated 2/10/06 10:45:49 A.M. Central Standard 
Time,  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   com writes:
   
The  booing of Trent Lott was  far from 
exaggerated, I saw it and  heard it and it wasn't just a few. 
It
was  loud and  rude.
   
   The sound was turned up on the clips to exaggerate it.
   Those  who were actually *there* at the rally are very
   clear that it was just a  few people.
   
   Nice try again Judy. I saw it live and it was shown on  
different
   stations and they were all equally loud. If one turned up and 
   distorted the volume to sound like more, then they all did it, 
   which is a little  too much for me to believe.
  
  Oh, please.  Of course they all did it, just as they
  all did it with the Dean scream, simply because it
  makes a better story.
 
 Fox News has been showing a clip a black preacher speaking at the
 service with the sound edited out and then commenting on how no-one
 applauded the guy.

CNN and MSNBC as well.  Actually the clip shows
about 5 seconds of the standing ovation for Lowery's
comment about WMD when in fact it lasted 20 seconds.
Fifteen seconds were edited out of the clip with no
indication the clip had been altered.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'

2006-02-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
 
   
  In a message dated 2/10/06 10:45:49 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  com writes:
  
   The  booing of Trent Lott was  far from 
   exaggerated, I saw it and  heard it and it wasn't just a few. It
   was  loud and  rude.
  
  The sound was turned up on the clips to exaggerate it.
  Those  who were actually *there* at the rally are very
  clear that it was just a  few people.
  
  
  
  Nice try again Judy. I saw it live and it was shown on  different 
 stations 
  and they were all equally loud. If one turned up and  distorted 
 the volume to 
  sound like more, then they all did it, which is a little  too 
much 
 for me to 
  believe. I guess all the sound techs for all the major  stations 
 could have been 
  republicans, part of the right wing conspiracy, who all  
conspired 
 to turn up 
  and distort the booing to make it sound really  bad.
 
 
 Probably due to the acoustics of the Church/Temple/meeting hall 
 where the funeral was taking place.
 
 Reminds me of the State of the Union Address by Clinton during the 
 Monica scandal.  That was the one where there was serious 
 discussion about not having Clinton appear (which would have been 
 hard to do seeing that the State of the Union is a constitutional 
 requirement)

The Constitution does not require him to give
a speech to Congress, just for the record. On
the other hand, there wasn't any serious
discussion about not having him appear either.

 due to the scandal.  But he did speak...and because of the 
acoustics 
 of the House or Senate (not sure which is the one in which the 
 president gives the address), even just one person cheering or 
 clapping sounds like 20 people...
 
 And this went a long way towards Clinton saving his presidency 
 because the impression it gave was that many, many people were 
 cheering him regardless of the actual number who were because of 
the 
 acoustics.

Nonsense.  Clinton's ratings were way high already,
Monica or no Monica.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'

2006-02-10 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
  

   In a message dated 2/10/06 10:45:49 A.M. Central Standard 
Time,  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   com writes:
   
The  booing of Trent Lott was  far from 
exaggerated, I saw it and  heard it and it wasn't just a 
few. It
was  loud and  rude.
   
   The sound was turned up on the clips to exaggerate it.
   Those  who were actually *there* at the rally are very
   clear that it was just a  few people.
   
   
   
   Nice try again Judy. I saw it live and it was shown on  
different 
  stations 
   and they were all equally loud. If one turned up and  
distorted 
  the volume to 
   sound like more, then they all did it, which is a little  too 
 much 
  for me to 
   believe. I guess all the sound techs for all the major  
stations 
  could have been 
   republicans, part of the right wing conspiracy, who all  
 conspired 
  to turn up 
   and distort the booing to make it sound really  bad.
  
  
  Probably due to the acoustics of the Church/Temple/meeting hall 
  where the funeral was taking place.
  
  Reminds me of the State of the Union Address by Clinton during 
the 
  Monica scandal.  That was the one where there was serious 
  discussion about not having Clinton appear (which would have 
been 
  hard to do seeing that the State of the Union is a 
constitutional 
  requirement)
 
 The Constitution does not require him to give
 a speech to Congress, just for the record. On
 the other hand, there wasn't any serious
 discussion about not having him appear either.
 
  due to the scandal.  But he did speak...and because of the 
 acoustics 
  of the House or Senate (not sure which is the one in which the 
  president gives the address), even just one person cheering or 
  clapping sounds like 20 people...
  
  And this went a long way towards Clinton saving his presidency 
  because the impression it gave was that many, many people were 
  cheering him regardless of the actual number who were because of 
 the 
  acoustics.
 
 Nonsense.  Clinton's ratings were way high already,
 Monica or no Monica.



This was right at the time that the scandal broke.  Indeed, that 
Sunday on ABC's This Week Sam Donaldson predicted that Clinton 
would resign that week.

Easy to say nonsense in hindsight.  There was serious discussion 
that his presidency was over at the time.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Eggs-what Maharishi said (for those who care)

2006-02-10 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What physiologically, chemically nutritionally, even spiritually, is
 wrong with eggs? 

Nothing, unless you happen to have an allergy or other problem with
them. From what I've read, eggs and whey are the two best protein
sources available.





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[FairfieldLife] Yogic flying article

2006-02-10 Thread bbrigante
http://tinyurl.com/9mso4





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Photos of Brahmastan/ Girish Varma

2006-02-10 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 on 2/10/06 1:23 PM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

   The photos were great.  But who is Girish Varma, exactly?
  What does he do in the TMO?  His picture is hung on the wall
  in the background of a few photos, and his picture is the
  same size as and right next to that of Maharishi.
 
 He is Maharishi's nephew, and AFAIK, he's the head cheese over there.

Mmmm... head cheese... http://tinyurl.com/dstju






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'

2006-02-10 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 
 markmeredith@ wrote:
[snip]
  Fox News has been showing a clip a black preacher speaking at the
  service with the sound edited out and then commenting on how no-one
  applauded the guy.
 
 CNN and MSNBC as well.  Actually the clip shows
 about 5 seconds of the standing ovation for Lowery's
 comment about WMD when in fact it lasted 20 seconds.
 Fifteen seconds were edited out of the clip with no
 indication the clip had been altered.

Ya just can't trust those sneaky liberal media!






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Origins of mahaavaakyas?

2006-02-10 Thread bbrigante
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wrote:

 
 Anyone know where mahaavaakyas like tat tvam asi,
 ahaM brahmaasmi, ayam aatmaa brahma, sarvaM
 khalvidaM brahma are taken from?



*

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upanishads






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Kentucky? Nah, it's Canada!

2006-02-10 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ 
 wrote:
 
I will take a look. BTW, I didn't say 'the world' I said the lesser
  evil in the middle east. Just like I don't think that the TMO's
  motives are pure or presented clearly, US's aren't either but I don't
  think they are anywhere near as conspiritoral as all the hard lefties
  think they are. It's always amazed me that so many TB's and former
  TB's are so hard left in for a dime in for a dollar, I guess. I
  express a different point of view than is normally expressed here, 
 and
  all of a sudden Jim labels me an ignorant waking state  Kool-Aid
  drinker, sheesh. Actually Jim forgets that we share a whole 
 background
  of similar TM experience. 
 
 Hi John, I meant no personal labeling, or libeling for that matter. My 
 point with the Kool-Aid remark was that sometimes we adopt points of 
 view without thinking them through, echoing more what we have been 
 told (or, really, bombarded with...). 
 
 As to the 'ignorant waking state' comment, that wasn't meant to label 
 you either. I was just stating the justification [for war] from the 
 minds of those making such a decision.
 
 Thanks for bringing this up though. No offense meant to you.


  I know, Jim. I didn't take offense. I was exaggerating to make a
point, just like I figured you were ;-) 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Kentucky? Nah, it's Canada!

2006-02-10 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
  
  
   The fascinating thing, for an open-minded TMer, is
   to watch the series and think about how Maharishi's
   language has shifted over the years into the realm
   of scare tactics.  He still talks about Sat Yuga
   and a better world, but his fund-raising efforts
   these days are more often than not tied to pronoun-
   cements of impending doom if people don't send in
   their checks.  
  
  
  Maharishi's language these days seems to be slightly subtler and 
 more
  elitist version of Oral Roberts fund raising techniques. Very
  disappointing, and quite an illusion shatterer. 
  
  JohnY
 
 I remember someone asking him a long time ago how he would 
 accomplish his goal of enlightening the world, and he said something 
 like, I will reproduce myself.
 
 And That is only possible if he first destroys any attachments to 
 him. Down the path, down the path, down the path...cliff edge...


I guess cutting those last attachments involves suing those aspiring
maharishis 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Kentucky? Nah, it's Canada!

2006-02-10 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ 
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ 
  wrote:
  
 I will take a look. BTW, I didn't say 'the world' I said the 
lesser
   evil in the middle east. Just like I don't think that the TMO's
   motives are pure or presented clearly, US's aren't either but 
I don't
   think they are anywhere near as conspiritoral as all the hard 
lefties
   think they are. It's always amazed me that so many TB's and 
former
   TB's are so hard left in for a dime in for a dollar, I 
guess. I
   express a different point of view than is normally expressed 
here, 
  and
   all of a sudden Jim labels me an ignorant waking state  Kool-
Aid
   drinker, sheesh. Actually Jim forgets that we share a whole 
  background
   of similar TM experience. 
  
  Hi John, I meant no personal labeling, or libeling for that 
matter. My 
  point with the Kool-Aid remark was that sometimes we adopt 
points of 
  view without thinking them through, echoing more what we have 
been 
  told (or, really, bombarded with...). 
  
  As to the 'ignorant waking state' comment, that wasn't meant to 
label 
  you either. I was just stating the justification [for war] from 
the 
  minds of those making such a decision.
  
  Thanks for bringing this up though. No offense meant to you.
 
 
   I know, Jim. I didn't take offense. I was exaggerating to make a
 point, just like I figured you were ;-) 
 
 JohnY

Cool- I wish you a great weekend!





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Photos of Brahmastan/ Girish Varma

2006-02-10 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@
 wrote:
 
  on 2/10/06 1:23 PM, wayback71 at wayback71@ wrote:
  
 
The photos were great.  But who is Girish Varma, exactly?
   What does he do in the TMO?  His picture is hung on the wall
   in the background of a few photos, and his picture is the
   same size as and right next to that of Maharishi.
  
  He is Maharishi's nephew, and AFAIK, he's the head cheese over 
there.
 


 Mmmm... head cheese... http://tinyurl.com/dstju



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You should love this, then (makes a great omelette, too!):

http://www.wavy.com/Global/story.asp?S=4478369nav=23ii





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Kentucky? Nah, it's Canada!

2006-02-10 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ 
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
wrote:
   
   
The fascinating thing, for an open-minded TMer, is
to watch the series and think about how Maharishi's
language has shifted over the years into the realm
of scare tactics.  He still talks about Sat Yuga
and a better world, but his fund-raising efforts
these days are more often than not tied to pronoun-
cements of impending doom if people don't send in
their checks.  
   
   
   Maharishi's language these days seems to be slightly subtler 
and 
  more
   elitist version of Oral Roberts fund raising techniques. Very
   disappointing, and quite an illusion shatterer. 
   
   JohnY
  
  I remember someone asking him a long time ago how he would 
  accomplish his goal of enlightening the world, and he said 
something 
  like, I will reproduce myself.
  
  And That is only possible if he first destroys any attachments 
to 
  him. Down the path, down the path, down the path...cliff edge...
 
 
 I guess cutting those last attachments involves suing those 
aspiring
 maharishis

no...not THOSE GUYS...they are on the proverbial SLOW BOAT...we on 
the other hand can easily achieve the goal. The trick being to just 
not settle for seekerdom anymore. That's it- done...poof...into the 
infinite forever more...no more CC-GC-UC--straight into 
Brahman!!! Yippeee! 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'

2006-02-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
shempmcgurk@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
   
 
In a message dated 2/10/06 10:45:49 A.M. Central Standard 
 Time,  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
com writes:

 The  booing of Trent Lott was  far from 
 exaggerated, I saw it and  heard it and it wasn't just a 
 few. It
 was  loud and  rude.

The sound was turned up on the clips to exaggerate it.
Those  who were actually *there* at the rally are very
clear that it was just a  few people.



Nice try again Judy. I saw it live and it was shown on  
 different 
   stations 
and they were all equally loud. If one turned up and  
 distorted 
   the volume to 
sound like more, then they all did it, which is a little  too 
  much 
   for me to 
believe. I guess all the sound techs for all the major  
 stations 
   could have been 
republicans, part of the right wing conspiracy, who all  
  conspired 
   to turn up 
and distort the booing to make it sound really  bad.
   
   
   Probably due to the acoustics of the Church/Temple/meeting hall 
   where the funeral was taking place.
   
   Reminds me of the State of the Union Address by Clinton during 
 the 
   Monica scandal.  That was the one where there was serious 
   discussion about not having Clinton appear (which would have 
 been 
   hard to do seeing that the State of the Union is a 
 constitutional 
   requirement)
  
  The Constitution does not require him to give
  a speech to Congress, just for the record. On
  the other hand, there wasn't any serious
  discussion about not having him appear either.
  
   due to the scandal.  But he did speak...and because of the 
  acoustics 
   of the House or Senate (not sure which is the one in which the 
   president gives the address), even just one person cheering or 
   clapping sounds like 20 people...
   
   And this went a long way towards Clinton saving his presidency 
   because the impression it gave was that many, many people were 
   cheering him regardless of the actual number who were because
   of the acoustics.
  
  Nonsense.  Clinton's ratings were way high already,
  Monica or no Monica.
 
 This was right at the time that the scandal broke.

Right, when his job approval rating was 59. Following
the disclosure in February it went up to 65, and then
for the rest of his term--right through impeachment--
it went up and down by a few points, hovering around
65 for most of that period, with a couple of very brief
slippages down to 58.

Just as I said.

 Indeed, that 
 Sunday on ABC's This Week Sam Donaldson predicted that Clinton 
 would resign that week.

Is that your idea of serious discussion, a
prediction from Sam Donaldson?

 Easy to say nonsense in hindsight.  There was serious discussion 
 that his presidency was over at the time.

No, there was discussion by know-it-all pundits
and hopeful right-wingers.  The public was behind
Clinton all along, did not want him impeached, by
huge majorities, did not want him removed from
office.

And as I said, there was *no* serious discussion--
i.e., by anybody who counted--that he should not
deliver the State of the Union in 1998.

To claim that speech saved his presidency is
just silly.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Origins of mahaavaakyas?

2006-02-10 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  
  Anyone know where mahaavaakyas like tat tvam asi,
  ahaM brahmaasmi, ayam aatmaa brahma, sarvaM
  khalvidaM brahma are taken from?
 
 
 
 *
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upanishads


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Photos of Brahmastan/ Girish Varma

2006-02-10 Thread Peter


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  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
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  This web site is a delightful photo story of the 
  celebration and trip to
  India for January 12th, put together by a  
 Russian Purusha. There is
  running English translation
  
  http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/
  
   The photos were great.  But who is Girish Varma,
 exactly?
  What does he do in the TMO?  His picture is hung
 on the wall in the background
  of a few 
  photos, and his picture is the same size as and
 right next to that of
  Maharishi.
 
 He is Maharishi's nephew, and AFAIK, he's the head
 cheese over there.

I get a strange vibe from that dude!




 
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Some Purusha in Livingston Manor

2006-02-10 Thread Peter
Naw, just the joyous neurological impact of sperm
retention and too much mercury in one's diet.

--- Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This guy needs a quick course in grammar.
 
 Sal
 
 
 On Feb 10, 2006, at 10:21 AM, Rick Archer wrote:
 
   other news 27 Purusha have the now arrived in L/
 manor NY they are 
  ones would either could not go to Holland or India
 for  one or a 
  number of reasons. The say they do projects there
 I know not if all do 
  so some medical reasons others family reasons etc.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Photos of Brahmastan/ Girish Varma

2006-02-10 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  on 2/10/06 1:23 PM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
  fairfieldlife@ wrote:
   
   This web site is a delightful photo story of the 
   celebration and trip to
   India for January 12th, put together by a  
   Russian Purusha. There is
   running English translation
   
   http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/
   
   The photos were great.  But who is Girish Varma,
   exactly?
   What does he do in the TMO?  His picture is hung
   on the wall in the background
   of a few 
   photos, and his picture is the same size as and
   right next to that of
   Maharishi.
  
  He is Maharishi's nephew, and AFAIK, he's the head
  cheese over there.
 
 I get a strange vibe from that dude!

Me, too.  I wouldn't be surprised if that's where
all the money was going.







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[FairfieldLife] Seeking people to interview for spirituality book

2006-02-10 Thread courageoussouls
I am writing a non-fiction book about the deeper spiritual meaning of 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eggs-what Maharishi said (for those who care)

2006-02-10 Thread Peter


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  What physiologically, chemically nutritionally,
 even spiritually, is
  wrong with eggs? 
 
 Nothing, unless you happen to have an allergy or
 other problem with
 them. From what I've read, eggs and whey are the two
 best protein
 sources available.

But why would you want to ruin your chances?



 
 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Eggs-what Maharishi said (for those who care)

2006-02-10 Thread Nelson
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   What physiologically, chemically nutritionally,
  even spiritually, is
   wrong with eggs? 
  
  Nothing, unless you happen to have an allergy or
  other problem with
  them. From what I've read, eggs and whey are the two
  best protein
  sources available.
 
 But why would you want to ruin your chances?
 
+++I thought I had been following the egg story but must have missed
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Eggs-what Maharishi said (for those who care)

2006-02-10 Thread anonyff
Here's the first post in this particular egg thread:

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Subject: Eggs-what Maharishi said (for those who care)  anonyff
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On my TTC, back in early '71, in a big discussion about diet, prompted
as I recall, by Andy Kaufman, who relentlessly pursued this topic with
M, M said, about eggs:

One egg in a lifetime is too many.















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  --- Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@
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   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff
   no_reply@ wrote:
   
What physiologically, chemically nutritionally,
   even spiritually, is
wrong with eggs? 
   
   Nothing, unless you happen to have an allergy or
   other problem with
   them. From what I've read, eggs and whey are the two
   best protein
   sources available.
  
  But why would you want to ruin your chances?
  
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 the point that it would ruin something-could you enlighten me.   N.
  
  
   
   
   
   
   
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Photos of Brahmastan/ Girish Varma

2006-02-10 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  on 2/10/06 1:23 PM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
  fairfieldlife@ wrote:
   
   This web site is a delightful photo story of the 
   celebration and trip to
   India for January 12th, put together by a  
  Russian Purusha. There is
   running English translation
   
   http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/
   
The photos were great.  But who is Girish Varma,
  exactly?
   What does he do in the TMO?  His picture is hung
  on the wall in the background
   of a few 
   photos, and his picture is the same size as and
  right next to that of
   Maharishi.
  
  He is Maharishi's nephew, and AFAIK, he's the head
  cheese over there.
 
 I get a strange vibe from that dude!
 
His name is on almost every board for each org that files tax returns.
He's also on all the Indian TM sites that mix TM and business
ventures. Yup it's a strange vibe. 

JohnY






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[FairfieldLife] Sam Harris on Bertrand Russell's teapot argument

2006-02-10 Thread yhvhworld


By Sam Harris

While An Atheist Manifesto received considerable support from
readers of Truthdig, a variety of criticisms surfaced in the reader
commentary.  I summarize and respond to some of these below:

1. Just because you haven't seen God doesn't mean He doesn't exist. 
Atheism, therefore, is as much an act of faith as theism is.

Bertrand Russell demolished this fallacy nearly a century ago with his
famous teapot argument.  As his response appears to me to be perfect,
I simply offer it here:

Many orthodox people speak as though it were the business of sceptics
to disprove received dogmas rather than of dogmatists to prove them.
This is, of course, a mistake. If I were to suggest that between the
Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an
elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion
provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be
revealed even by our most powerful telescopes. But if I were to go on
to say that, since my assertion cannot be disproved, it is intolerable
presumption on the part of human reason to doubt it, I should rightly
be thought to be talking nonsense. If, however, the existence of such
a teapot were affirmed in ancient books, taught as the sacred truth
every Sunday, and instilled into the minds of children at school,
hesitation to believe in its existence would become a mark of
eccentricity and entitle the doubter to the attentions of the
psychiatrist in an enlightened age or of the Inquisitor in an earlier
time.

If a valid retort to Russell has ever seen the light of day, I'm not
aware of it.  As I tried to make clear in my essay, the atheist is not
in the business of making claims on insufficient evidence, he merely
resists such claims whenever they appear on the lips of the faithful.
 I don't think it can be pointed out too often that the faithful do
this as well. Every Christian knows what it is like to find the claims
of Muslims—that the Holy Koran is the perfect word of God, that
Muhammad flew to heaven on a winged horse, etc.—to be utterly
incredible.  Everyone who is not a Mormon knows at a glance that
Mormonism is bogus. And everyone of every religious denomination knows
what it is like not to believe in Zeus. Everyone has rejected an
infinite number of spurious claims about God.  The atheist rejects
infinity plus one.

2. You will never get rid of religion, so criticizing it is just a
waste of time.

I would be the first to admit that the prospects for eradicating
religious dogmatism in our world do not seem good. Still, the same
could have been said about efforts to abolish slavery at the beginning
of the 19th century. Anyone who spoke about eradicating slavery in the
United States around 1810 surely appeared to be wasting his time, and
wasting it dangerously.  The analogy is not perfect, but it is
suggestive.  If we ever do transcend our religious bewilderment, we
will look back upon this period in human history with absolute
astonishment.  How could it have been possible for people to believe
such things in the 21st century? How could it be that they allowed
their world to become so dangerously fragmented by empty notions about
God and Paradise? The answers to these questions are as embarrassing
as those that sent the last slave ship sailing to America as late as
1859 (the same year that Darwin published The Origin of Species).

3. Religion is our only source of morality. Without it, we would be
plunged into a secular moral chaos.

This concern is so widespread that I have responded to it at some
length.  A version of this response will soon be published in the
magazine Free Inquiry (www.secularhumanism.org) as The Myth of
Secular Moral Chaos.

One cannot criticize religious dogmatism for long without encountering
the following claim, advanced as though it were a self-evident fact of
nature: there is no secular basis for morality. Raping and killing
children can only be really wrong, the thinking goes, if there is a
God who says it is.  Otherwise, right and wrong would be mere matters
of social construction, and any society will be at liberty to decide
that raping and killing children is actually a wholesome form of
family fun. In the absence of God, John Wayne Gacy would be a better
person than Albert Schweitzer, if only more people agreed with him.

It is simply amazing how widespread this fear of secular moral chaos
is, given how many misconceptions about morality and human nature are
required to set it whirling in a person's brain. There is undoubtedly
much to be said against the spurious linkage between faith and
morality, but the following three points should suffice.

If a book like the bible were the only reliable blueprint for human
decency that we have, it would be impossible (both practically and
logically) to criticize it in moral terms. But it is extraordinarily
easy to criticize the morality one finds in bible, as most of it is
simply odious and incompatible with a civil society.

The