[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's salary: you get what you pay for...

2006-11-27 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ 
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ 
wrote:
   
http://tinyurl.com/u932s
   
   
  
   Probably a typo, or based on 1970 figures.
  
  
  ***
  
  Nah, he took at least one pay cut from his high of ~$15K/year, 
despite 
  his pioneering work in introducing the FS major at MUM:
  
  
  http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/26/fashion/26fat.html
 
 

 Bah. Bevan is an amateur as far as Fat Studies go.
 
 http://web.mac.com/lawsonenglish/iWeb/Site/I%27m%20fat.html



Would it kill you to eat a piece of fruit, bubbaleh?



[FairfieldLife] Trifala - Ayurvedic shield for nuclear radiation

2006-11-27 Thread rama krishna
Be it a cancer attack or the deadly assault of nuclear radiation, the
age-old Ayurvedic formulation 'Trifala' holds the power of shielding
mankind from all these onslaughts, Mr K P Mishra, top Radiation
Biologist formerly associated with the Bhabha Atomic Research Centre
(BARC), Mumbai claimed here. 

Also the President of the Indian Society for Radiation Biology and
Indian Biophysical Society Dr Mishra said that the peerless power of
'Trifala' -- a trinity of three herbs, Amalaki, Haritaki and Bibhitaki
-- held the promise of protecting the body from the attack of dreadful
disease like cancer and the onslaught of nuclear radiation. 

Dr Mishra, the former head of Radiation Biology and Health Sciences
Division at BARC and presently a visiting professor to the Hiroshima
University (Japan) is here to attend the 5th International Conference of
'Low Dose Radiation Effects on Human Health and Environment' underway at
the Banaras Hindu University (BHU). 
''Trifala is not only the best laxative and colon tonic, but also offers
perfect treatment to allergies, cold, flu and obesity. The age-old basic
Ayurvedic formulation also tones up the immune system of the body --
essential to foil any attack be it cancer or nuclear radiation,'' Dr
Mishra maintained. 

The basic Ayurvedic formulation can be of an immense protective value
against diseases like cancer and radio-activity especially arising out
of nuclear radiation in this era of growing dependence of nuclear power
both for advancement and war. 

''Trifala tones up the immune system, by differentiating between
diseased human cells and the healthy or normal cells. Once the diseased
cells have been identified, the power of Trifala kills these cells,
making way for the development of new healthy cells, consequently toning
up the immune system. Intake of this staple Ayurvedic formulation will
thus help people beat all onslaughts on their body,'' he added. 

In case of nuclear radiation also a fully toned up immune system
courtsey the intake of Trifala could help people neutralise the harmful
effects of radio-activity, Dr Mishra said. 

Dr Mishra, who was heading the ongoing project at the BARC to develop a
drug that would help the soldiers neutralise the harmfull effects of
nuclear radiation in case of an atomic attack said the power of Trifala
was discovered by a team member Dr Sandhya during the work on the
project. 

''The search is on for finding more such formulations like Trifala,
which can make the body immune to deadly radiations,' ' Dr Mishra
maintained. 

''Research during the course of project has proved that Trifala
consumers working in occupations replete with radio-activity like X-ray
centres were immune to harmful radiations,' ' he added. 

Enlisting the other projects underway at the BARC, Dr Mishra said a
series of efforts were being made to apply radioisotope technology --
technology based on naturally occurring or synthetic radioactive form of
an element -- to benefit the country's population. 

The slew of radioisotope based iniatiatives included application to
eliminate the destruction of crop by insects, tracing untapped ground
water resources, besides checking the organ wise functioning of human
body, he added. 

''The technology is in the process of being applied to sterilise the
insect population which destroy crops, thus saving a huge amount our
crops which are decayed,'' he added. 

The most significant area of radioisotope, a seminal branch of nuclear
medicine is the work on applying it to devise missile technology based
medicine system, which will ensure targeted delivery of drugs especially
in cases of cancer and diabetes. 

''A missile hits a specific enemy target. Similarly efforts are underway
at the BARC to devise a system of radioisotope based nuclear medicine,
especially in cases of cancer, where the anti-cancer drug acts only on
the diseased cells and not the healthy parts of the body,'' Dr Mishra. 

When the system is put in place, maximum result can be obtained through
minimum input of drugs, thus replacing the side-effects of radio-therapy
on patients and eliminating the need for surgical intervention to a
large extent, he claimed. 

The Lyposome or Cell Membrane based targeted drug delivery system is
being packaged in such a manner that even low dosage of the medication
acts meticulously on the cancer cells and not on healthy cells, Dr
Mishra maintained. 

The success of targeted drug delivery system will serve a breakthrough
in the cancer treatment scene in the country 
   
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's salary: you get what you pay for...

2006-11-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ 
 wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ 
 wrote:

 http://tinyurl.com/u932s


   
Probably a typo, or based on 1970 figures.
   
   
   ***
   
   Nah, he took at least one pay cut from his high of ~$15K/year, 
 despite 
   his pioneering work in introducing the FS major at MUM:
   
   
   http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/26/fashion/26fat.html
  
  
 
  Bah. Bevan is an amateur as far as Fat Studies go.
  
  http://web.mac.com/lawsonenglish/iWeb/Site/I%27m%20fat.html
 
 
 
 Would it kill you to eat a piece of fruit, bubbaleh?


Would it kill you to stop making assumptions about other people?




[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie Henning

2006-11-27 Thread Robert Gimbel
 (snip)
  Doug died a few years ago of liver cancer.
  Debbie donated all of Doug's millions to the TM Movement. She then
 joined
  the TM Mother Divine Program. Mother Divine is a convent-like
 program, but
  the women meditate about six hours per day. They become very soft
 spoken and
  spacey.
  
  Today, I was told that Debbie's family had her admitted to a 
mental
  institution a few years ago. deep sigh.
  
  She was once so full of life.
 
Could it be, that she just never got over Doug's death; that 
sometimes happens you know;
Especially when people are particularly sensitive, and prone to 
fantasy to some extent;
And to go from being where she was- she obviously did not know how to 
re-create her life, after his death?
Whether or not that had to do with TM or donation of money, or 
whatever- seems irrelevant, to me anyway...
Sometimes sensitive people just have mental breakdowns.
Does anyone know if Michael Richards, has cut back on his 'Sidhi 
Program'?
R.G.
R.G.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Bob Roth's spin on the alteration of WP article

2006-11-27 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 To my mind, the big error wasn't the editing per 
 se, but the fact that they didn't say anything
 about the fact that changes had been made, or
 indicate the changes by enclosing them in square
 brackets, which really is de rigeur.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Bob Roth's spin on the alteration of WP article

2006-11-27 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 To my mind, the big error wasn't the editing per 
 se, but the fact that they didn't say anything
 about the fact that changes had been made, or
 indicate the changes by enclosing them in square
 brackets, which really is de rigeur.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Art of Living vs. TM technique

2006-11-27 Thread nablusos108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusos108 nablusos108@ 
 wrote:
  This little thing, changing a word here and there in a silly 
article, 
  and all the TM-haters goes bananas. They seem to become more and 
more 
  desperate as the success from the Invincible America course grows 
  stronger.
  
  There is a great purification going on worldwide, and the TM-
haters 
  are just in the middle of it.
 
 
 **
 
 It is because I am not a TM-hater that I object to the pointless 
 rewriting of an article in order to give TMers a distorted view of 
what 
 is going on in the press. This sort of suppression of actual facts 
is 
 typical of weak regimes, like North Korea and other Communist or 
3rd 
 world dictatorships. 
 
 The WP article was read by lots of people (their print Sunday 
edition 
 goes to one million, plus however many read their free web 
edition). 
 The invincibleamerica.org site is read by a handful of TMers. So 
 editing out material that the TM PR guys found objectionable has no 
 effect on the public, but is intended merely to make TMers feel 
good 
 about what a great job they are doing spreading good news about TM. 
 This false and self-congratulatory attitude does the TMO no good, 
and 
 sooner or later, when these Scientology-like gimmicks become well-
known 
 in the media world, TM PR efforts will be derided, just as Stalin's 
 airbrushing of photos to eliminate enemies.
 
 Logical and adult people would have written a letter to the editor 
of 
 the WP explaining what TM is (certainly not a breath-control 
technique 
 as described in the article) and ignored mentions of homeopathic 
 remedies,etc. What the TMO gets instead of logical and adult is Bob 
 Roth's pathetic lying...

Agreed. My point is only that it is not much of a big deal. This 
fellow makes a small mistake in his eagerness and them he apologies. 
Why all this agitation over a small thing ?




Re: [FairfieldLife] Trifala - Ayurvedic shield for nuclear radiation

2006-11-27 Thread Peter
I'm sorry, this is pure bullsh*t. Will someone please
explain to me how an herb will prevent the massive
cell death from radiation and the exact mechanics?
What utter nonsense. Kind of like saying vitamin C
will prevent car crashes.

--- rama krishna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Be it a cancer attack or the deadly assault of
 nuclear radiation, the
 age-old Ayurvedic formulation 'Trifala' holds the
 power of shielding
 mankind from all these onslaughts, Mr K P Mishra,
 top Radiation
 Biologist formerly associated with the Bhabha Atomic
 Research Centre
 (BARC), Mumbai claimed here. 
 
 Also the President of the Indian Society for
 Radiation Biology and
 Indian Biophysical Society Dr Mishra said that the
 peerless power of
 'Trifala' -- a trinity of three herbs, Amalaki,
 Haritaki and Bibhitaki
 -- held the promise of protecting the body from the
 attack of dreadful
 disease like cancer and the onslaught of nuclear
 radiation. 
 
 Dr Mishra, the former head of Radiation Biology and
 Health Sciences
 Division at BARC and presently a visiting professor
 to the Hiroshima
 University (Japan) is here to attend the 5th
 International Conference of
 'Low Dose Radiation Effects on Human Health and
 Environment' underway at
 the Banaras Hindu University (BHU). 
 ''Trifala is not only the best laxative and colon
 tonic, but also offers
 perfect treatment to allergies, cold, flu and
 obesity. The age-old basic
 Ayurvedic formulation also tones up the immune
 system of the body --
 essential to foil any attack be it cancer or nuclear
 radiation,'' Dr
 Mishra maintained. 
 
 The basic Ayurvedic formulation can be of an immense
 protective value
 against diseases like cancer and radio-activity
 especially arising out
 of nuclear radiation in this era of growing
 dependence of nuclear power
 both for advancement and war. 
 
 ''Trifala tones up the immune system, by
 differentiating between
 diseased human cells and the healthy or normal
 cells. Once the diseased
 cells have been identified, the power of Trifala
 kills these cells,
 making way for the development of new healthy cells,
 consequently toning
 up the immune system. Intake of this staple
 Ayurvedic formulation will
 thus help people beat all onslaughts on their
 body,'' he added. 
 
 In case of nuclear radiation also a fully toned up
 immune system
 courtsey the intake of Trifala could help people
 neutralise the harmful
 effects of radio-activity, Dr Mishra said. 
 
 Dr Mishra, who was heading the ongoing project at
 the BARC to develop a
 drug that would help the soldiers neutralise the
 harmfull effects of
 nuclear radiation in case of an atomic attack said
 the power of Trifala
 was discovered by a team member Dr Sandhya during
 the work on the
 project. 
 
 ''The search is on for finding more such
 formulations like Trifala,
 which can make the body immune to deadly
 radiations,' ' Dr Mishra
 maintained. 
 
 ''Research during the course of project has proved
 that Trifala
 consumers working in occupations replete with
 radio-activity like X-ray
 centres were immune to harmful radiations,' ' he
 added. 
 
 Enlisting the other projects underway at the BARC,
 Dr Mishra said a
 series of efforts were being made to apply
 radioisotope technology --
 technology based on naturally occurring or synthetic
 radioactive form of
 an element -- to benefit the country's population. 
 
 The slew of radioisotope based iniatiatives included
 application to
 eliminate the destruction of crop by insects,
 tracing untapped ground
 water resources, besides checking the organ wise
 functioning of human
 body, he added. 
 
 ''The technology is in the process of being applied
 to sterilise the
 insect population which destroy crops, thus saving a
 huge amount our
 crops which are decayed,'' he added. 
 
 The most significant area of radioisotope, a seminal
 branch of nuclear
 medicine is the work on applying it to devise
 missile technology based
 medicine system, which will ensure targeted delivery
 of drugs especially
 in cases of cancer and diabetes. 
 
 ''A missile hits a specific enemy target. Similarly
 efforts are underway
 at the BARC to devise a system of radioisotope based
 nuclear medicine,
 especially in cases of cancer, where the anti-cancer
 drug acts only on
 the diseased cells and not the healthy parts of the
 body,'' Dr Mishra. 
 
 When the system is put in place, maximum result can
 be obtained through
 minimum input of drugs, thus replacing the
 side-effects of radio-therapy
 on patients and eliminating the need for surgical
 intervention to a
 large extent, he claimed. 
 
 The Lyposome or Cell Membrane based targeted drug
 delivery system is
 being packaged in such a manner that even low dosage
 of the medication
 acts meticulously on the cancer cells and not on
 healthy cells, Dr
 Mishra maintained. 
 
 The success of targeted drug delivery system will
 serve a breakthrough
 in the cancer treatment scene in the country 

  


Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-27 Thread Peter
Yes, anixiety disorders, depressive disorders, but
absolutely not psychosis, it only makes it worse, much
worse.

--- suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective
 cure for mental 
 illness. 
 
 A large body of research has demonstrated that
 Transcendental 
 Meditation produces comprehensive improvements in
 mental health, 
 enhancing positive features and reducing various
 forms of 
 psychological distress. A systematic review of 144
 studies found that 
 Transcendental Meditation was markedly more
 effective in reducing 
 anxiety than other techniques (including progressive
 muscular 
 relaxation, methods claimed to induce a 'relaxation
 response', and 
 other forms of meditation)
 
 The superiority of Transcendental Meditation
 remained highly 
 significant when only the strongest and most
 rigorous studies were 
 included in the analysis. Transcendental Meditation
 has also 
 consistently been found to reduce depression,
 hostility, and 
 emotional instability, indicating the growth of a
 more stable, 
 balanced, and resilient personality
 
 In another statistical review of 42 independent
 research results, 
 Transcendental Meditation was found to be three
 times as effective as 
 other meditation and relaxation procedures in
 increasing self-
 actualization-an overall measure of positive mental
 health and 
 personal development. Further analysis revealed that
 the technique is 
 exceptionally effective in developing three
 independent components of 
 this dimension: emotional maturity, a resilient
 sense of self, and a 
 positive, integrated perspective on ourselves and
 the world
 
 An exhaustive survey conducted by the Swedish
 National Health Board 
 found evidence that psychiatric hospital admissions
 may be much less 
 common among people practicing Transcendental
 Meditation than in the 
 general population
 
 
 
 The following excerpt is from Maharishi's book  The
 Science of Being 
 and Art of living
 
 Mental health depends upon the normal functioning of
 the nervous 
 system, so that the full mind is brought to bear
 upon the external 
 world. The normal functioning of the nervous system
 results in 
 physical good health so that the body is able to
 carry out the 
 dictates of the mind, fulfill its desires, and
 fulfill the purpose of 
 existence. 
 
 As long as the coordination of the mind with the
 nervous system is 
 intact, mental health is maintained. When this
 coordination breaks 
 down, either because of some failure on the part of
 the mind or of 
 the nervous system, ill health is the result. Such
 failure of the 
 mind is brought about by a continued inability to
 fulfill its 
 desires. 
 
 The main reason for this is weakness in the clarity
 and power of 
 thought, which thus fails to stimulate the nervous
 system to the 
 extent that it can successfully carry out the
 activity needed for 
 fulfillment of the desire. For the most thorough
 coordination and the 
 most perfect functioning, a profound power of
 thought on the part of 
 the mind, together with a corresponding efficient
 executive ability 
 in the nervous system, is required.
 
 The integrity of the organic nature of the nervous
 system is 
 certainly as essential as the power of the mind. As
 far as their 
 functioning is concerned, they are interdependent.
 It has been found 
 that while the nervous system remains unchanged, an
 improvement of 
 the state of the mind results in an improved state
 of thinking and 
 better coordination between the mind and the world
 around it. When 
 the full mind is brought out to express itself in
 the external world, 
 the subject comes into a more perfect and rewarding
 relationship with 
 the needs of the mind. A mind that is happy and
 contented produces 
 health.
 
 It has also been found that, if the physical state
 of the nervous 
 system is improved by means of medicine, while the
 state of mind 
 remains the same, the thinking becomes more profound
 and the mind 
 functions more energetically and more efficiently.
 Thus, we find that 
 the mind and the nervous system are interdependent,
 but since the 
 mind is obviously of a more subtle nature than its
 organ, the nervous 
 system, it seems wiser to assume that the mind is
 primary.
 
 Any number of factors might interfere with the
 growth of a tree, but 
 weakness in the seed itself would overshadow them
 all in importance. 
 In the same way, any number of factors might prevent
 the fulfillment 
 of a need, but weakness of the power of thought must
 certainly 
 overshadow the rest. A strong seed will produce a
 tree even in a 
 desert, while no amount of nurturing will help a
 weak seed. If the 
 basic power of thought is strong, it will find its
 way to fulfillment.
 
 If, because of the failure to satisfy the needs and
 desires of the 
 mind, discontent begins to produce tension within
 it, then the way to 
 remove these tensions will be to strengthen the mind
 by 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie Henning

2006-11-27 Thread Peter


--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  The last thing a person needs is transcending when
  they are decompensating and the ego is overwhelmed
  with primary process impulses. But unfortunately
 the
  TMO will not listen to any mental health
  professionals, even meditating ones, in regard to
  people who are struggling with their program and
 their
  life.
 
 For the vast majority of people, including people
 with mental ilness, TM is useful. Even 
 people that have problems with TM usually find that
 lying down for a few minutes after 
 practice and/or reducing practice time, is all that
 is requierd to get rid of most side-effects.

As I just posted, TM is great for anxiety and
depressive disorders, but some disorders, especially
psychosis, TM or any internal, unstructured activity
is the absolutely worst thing that could be done.
Transcending is not good for very weak minds.



 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Sanitizing the FF story

2006-11-27 Thread dhamiltony2k5

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  
  To my mind, the big error wasn't the editing per 
  se, but the fact that they didn't say anything
  about the fact that changes had been made, or
  indicate the changes by enclosing them in square
  brackets, which really is de rigeur.
 


Yes, it is extremely bad about them.  It is about integrity.  If this 
was in either an academic, public sector or business institution with 
a more real normal ethics code, there would be reprimand or removal.  
Instead they get access and place inside and front row seats.  Pretty 
warped with self-importance on the inside for the inside,with the 
culture of cult.   

Who would want to be much involved with people like these.  No wonder 
that old TM community have only marginally responded to the call and 
they are having to hire in people to claw their way to the numbers 
they need? 

Last week in the town newspaper, The Fairfield Ledger (Nov 16), Craig 
Pearson as exec VP of the MUM president's office had a piece 
published discussing the pundits and the course going on. .. the 
purpose of bringing the pundits was to boost the numbers to the 
target of 1730 people on the course.  (Hirlings because Americans 
would not come?)  

Carefully, no mention made in Craig's writing of the pundit chanting 
or doing pujas etc., but only their purpose in coming being their 
practice of meditation and tm-sidhi program in group to get the 
target number.  Other than staking the claim to being the `epicenter 
of peace' the article is a run at explaining the what is going on 
with the pundits.  

Even today on the campus radio John Hagelin from Vlodrop gave an 
elaborate plea, trying to pull all strings, for people to join the 
group.  All the stops pulled out, that it is about the numbers.  

But then the integrity of what people see as it has gone along, the 
evident lack of transparency of things generally with the .org, and 
then people and rajas like Bobby Roth standing next to him.  It all 
takes people to pause.  It must be extremely frustrating to JohnH  
when essentially what must be done to remedy the situation can't be 
talked about or moved on to resolve.  It is about integrity and 
trust.  Yet, these have been gone from the TMorg for some while  
these some things like the evident self-serving is stunning and 
demoralizing in character.  Is about integrity.  The legacy? 

With hopeful regards from FF,
-Doug 




Re: [FairfieldLife] Trifala - Ayurvedic shield for nuclear radiation

2006-11-27 Thread Vaj


On Nov 27, 2006, at 7:34 AM, Peter wrote:


I'm sorry, this is pure bullsh*t. Will someone please
explain to me how an herb will prevent the massive
cell death from radiation and the exact mechanics?
What utter nonsense. Kind of like saying vitamin C
will prevent car crashes.


Amla, one of the three ingredients in triphala, is a powerful free  
radical scavenger. Radiation induced free radicals are neutralized by  
the scavenging effect of the amla, thus reducing oxidation and the  
free radical effects of ionizing radiation. This would most likely  
apply to low LET radiation, that is, radiation that does not transfer  
a lot of energy to surrounding tisues as it passes through.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes, anixiety disorders, depressive disorders, but
 absolutely not psychosis, it only makes it worse, much
 worse.

Are we talking specifically about Debbie here?

And if so, are we sure she had become psychotic?

 
 --- suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective
  cure for mental 
  illness. 




[FairfieldLife] Why the dollar is falling so fast

2006-11-27 Thread claudiouk
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4772049.stm
 
Why the dollar is falling so fast 
Analysis 
By Steve Schifferes 
Economics reporter, BBC News  

The US dollar is plunging in world currency markets - and bringing 
down share prices in its wake. 
But why is the dollar under pressure - and what would be the 
consequences for the US economy if it continues to fall? 

Behind the problems of the dollar lies the huge and growing US trade 
deficit, and the large Federal budget deficit. 

A fall in the greenback could hit Asian countries whose governments 
hold huge foreign currency reserves in dollars 

A disorderly unwinding of global imbalances would be very damaging 
Rodrigo Rato, IMF Managing Director  

For many years financial markets have worried about the growing size 
of the US trade deficit - the difference between the amount the US 
imports from the rest of the world, and the amount it can sell to the 
rest of the world. 

That deficit is now heading above $800bn for 2006, or 7% of the US 
economy, and shows no signs of diminishing. 

At the same time, tax cuts and the war in Iraq have led to a US 
budget deficit of several hundred billion dollars despite the booming 
economy. 

Asian giants 

Much of the trade gap relates to US commerce with East Asian 
countries such as China, Japan, and Korea, who sell much more to 
America than they buy. 

Together, the East Asian countries have accumulated foreign currency 
surpluses of nearly $1 trillion, much of it held in US Treasury bonds 
denominated in dollars. 

Thus they are funding both the budget gap and the trade gap. 

These huge global imbalances are threatening to derail the world 
economy, the IMF and other international organisations have warned. 

The classic economic view of how to correct such changes is to adjust 
the exchange rate in order to make US goods cheaper and Asian goods 
more expensive. 

But many Asian currencies - especially the Chinese yuan - do not 
float freely on international currency markets, and the US has long 
been pressuring China to revalue its currency. 

Now the markets are beginning to take matters into their own hands, 
by forcing the US dollar down. 

In the long run, the fall in the dollar could lead to a cut in the 
trade deficit and a boost to US exports. 

But this process often takes a long time, and in the meantime, it is 
fraught with dangers. 

The fall in the dollar is worrying the IMF, the international 
organisation charged with surveillance of the world economy. 

A disorderly unwinding of global imbalances would be very damaging, 
IMF managing director Rodrigo Rato warned at its spring meeting in 
April. 

Run on the dollar 

In the first place, a rapid fall in the dollar, if it accelerates, 
could cause short-term problems for the US economy. 

The higher price of imported goods could lead to a hike in domestic 
inflation, and it could take several years before consumers switch 
back to buying more US goods. 

High inflation, combined with the stronger-than-expected growth of 
the US economy, could force the US central bank, the Federal Reserve, 
to keep raising interest rates. 

They have already been raised 15 times, and now stand at 5%, partly 
on fears of a growing housing boom. 

But the fears of inflation are also likely to affect the interest 
rates on long-term bonds, which determine mortgage rates. 

The rising mortgage rates, while they may eventually dampen the 
housing boom, will also give a further boost to inflationary 
pressures. 

International exporters hit 

Meanwhile, foreign companies who have derived an increasing 
proportion of their sales and profits from the US market could also 
be hit by falling demand for their exports. 

The sharp falls in non-US stock markets, especially in Asia, are a 
response to this fear, with electronics and car companies like Toyota 
and Sony especially vulnerable. 

And that in turn could affect the growth rate of countries like 
China, who derive much of the growth in their economies from exports. 

But the Asian exporters also have another reason to feel vulnerable. 

As the value of the dollar falls, their reserves of the currency also 
reduce in value, as do the yields on the US Treasury bonds held by 
many of their central banks. 

In buying such bonds these governments are, in effect, underwriting 
the large US Federal budget deficit as well. 

This deficit is set to increase as the baby boomer generation faces 
retirement. 

The Asian governments and investors may be tempted to sell many of 
their dollar holdings in order to protect themselves - but this would 
have the effect of weakening the dollar further. 

And it would force the Fed to raise interest rates even more to 
protect the dollar. 

Countries like China are reluctant to massively revalue their 
currency - because it would make investing in China much more 
expensive and could deter valuable foreign investment. 

Managed float 

This problem with the dollar has happened before, 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-27 Thread Vaj


On Nov 27, 2006, at 7:36 AM, Peter wrote:


Yes, anixiety disorders, depressive disorders, but
absolutely not psychosis, it only makes it worse, much
worse.



Well, and it can be contraindicated in anxiety disorders, borderlines  
and depression, esp since it can increase anxiety and increase  
depression. See:


Astin J, Shapiro SL, Schwartz GER. Meditation. In: Novey DW, editor.  
Clinician's complete reference to complementary and alternative  
medicine. St Louis: Mosby, 2000; 73-85.


Potential adverse effects of meditation include psychological  
symptoms such as tension, anxiety, depression, and confusion. A  
syndrome termed meditation sickness has been recognised. Meditation  
is contraindicated in patients with psychotic or borderline  
personality disorders.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie Henning

2006-11-27 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Nov 27, 2006, at 6:38 AM, Peter wrote:

 As I just posted, TM is great for anxiety and
 depressive disorders,


Dr. Pete,
I thought it was supposed to be an effortless technique for the 
reduction of stress in general--that's what I remember.  I don't recall 
hearing anything about anxiety or depression.  Did I miss something?

Sal



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie Henning

2006-11-27 Thread llundrub
If Debbie Henning went nuts I'm very sorry to hear it. She was a great 
person.  Still is, I'm sure.

- Original Message - 
From: bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 9:58 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie Henning


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 Jason, you're actually wrong here. If a person is
 decompensating and their ego structures are breaking
 down and they are identified with those structures,
 they are becoming psychotic. They need much less or no
 meditation and plenty of activity to engage the mind,
 senses and language. People have different nervous
 systems. Some can have no problem with long hours of
 meditastion, such as yourself, others flip out.


 ***

 I think the advice from TM teachers was that one with a physical
 ailment could meditate as long as they were comfortable with long
 practice, and Jason had malaria, not a psychological complaint. All
 that energy from long practice went into healing the physical
 complaint, and was not fodder for decompensation.



 --- Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
There is Nothing wrong with practicing TM for
  long periods.
 
I used to practice TM for 8 or 9 hours a
  day.!!  I was sufering from Chronic Malaria for two
  years, a sub-lethal attack.  I took a long time for
  the Doctors to diagnoise it.  During that period I
  practice TM for very extended periods.  I don't
  practice that long off late.
 
   But, TM is a Scientific technique practiced for
  thousands of years by Vedic Seers.
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:17:21 EST
  Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Debbie Henning
 
 
Wow. Could this be true about Debbie? To the
  person who posted this about someone's personal life
  where are you getting this kind of information from?
  Debbie deserves our prayers if this information is
  true. MMY has gotten in trouble in the past with the
  TMX organization back in 1985 with TM and TM Sidhi
  practitioners who meditated too much and came down
  with side effects that are not positive. Why MMY
  keeps pushing the nervous systems of some people is
  beyond me. This could effect MMY spiritual growth
  when he passes over. His status in the fifth
  dimension could be lowered. If the information is
  true my heart goes out to her and her family. Just a
  word of advise to everyone out their that can be
  passed on. If you're having problems in your
  programs slow down. You might want to meditate only
  once a day. If your doing the Sidhi's and your
  screaming or throwing things against the wall stop
  your program and just meditate and take it from
  their. If you move to fast on the
   spiritual path you can have an emotional or
  physiological fallout. Don't listen to TM teachers
  who say your just unstressing and continue. They
  have no brains in their heads when they talk like
  this.
It iscommon sense. And believe it or not MMY lacks
  in common sense at times even though everyone thinks
  he's enlightened. Love and Light.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Nov 27, 2006, at 7:36 AM, Peter wrote:
 
  Yes, anixiety disorders, depressive disorders, but
  absolutely not psychosis, it only makes it worse, much
  worse.
 
 
 Well, and it can be contraindicated in anxiety disorders, 
borderlines  
 and depression, esp since it can increase anxiety and increase  
 depression. See:
 
 Astin J, Shapiro SL, Schwartz GER. Meditation. In: Novey DW, 
editor.  
 Clinician's complete reference to complementary and alternative  
 medicine. St Louis: Mosby, 2000; 73-85.
 
 Potential adverse effects of meditation include psychological  
 symptoms such as tension, anxiety, depression, and confusion. A  
 syndrome termed meditation sickness has been recognised. 
Meditation  
 is contraindicated in patients with psychotic or borderline  
 personality disorders.

Which meditation techniques were involved here?






[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the dollar is falling so fast

2006-11-27 Thread TurquoiseB
Tell me about it. In 2002, one US dollar could buy 
1.13 Euros. Now it takes $1.30 to buy 1 Euro.
Check out the performance of the dollar against
only one currency (the Euro) during W's reign:

http://www.x-rates.com/d/USD/EUR/hist2000.html
http://www.x-rates.com/d/USD/EUR/hist2001.html
http://www.x-rates.com/d/USD/EUR/hist2002.html
http://www.x-rates.com/d/USD/EUR/hist2003.html
http://www.x-rates.com/d/USD/EUR/hist2004.html
http://www.x-rates.com/d/USD/EUR/hist2005.html
http://www.x-rates.com/d/USD/EUR/hist2006.html

I keep no money in dollars; to do so would be folly.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4772049.stm
  
 Why the dollar is falling so fast 
 Analysis 
 By Steve Schifferes 
 Economics reporter, BBC News  
 
 The US dollar is plunging in world currency markets - and bringing 
 down share prices in its wake. 
 But why is the dollar under pressure - and what would be the 
 consequences for the US economy if it continues to fall? 
 
 Behind the problems of the dollar lies the huge and growing US trade 
 deficit, and the large Federal budget deficit. 
 
 A fall in the greenback could hit Asian countries whose governments 
 hold huge foreign currency reserves in dollars 
 
 A disorderly unwinding of global imbalances would be very damaging 
 Rodrigo Rato, IMF Managing Director  
 
 For many years financial markets have worried about the growing size 
 of the US trade deficit - the difference between the amount the US 
 imports from the rest of the world, and the amount it can sell to the 
 rest of the world. 
 
 That deficit is now heading above $800bn for 2006, or 7% of the US 
 economy, and shows no signs of diminishing. 
 
 At the same time, tax cuts and the war in Iraq have led to a US 
 budget deficit of several hundred billion dollars despite the booming 
 economy. 
 
 Asian giants 
 
 Much of the trade gap relates to US commerce with East Asian 
 countries such as China, Japan, and Korea, who sell much more to 
 America than they buy. 
 
 Together, the East Asian countries have accumulated foreign currency 
 surpluses of nearly $1 trillion, much of it held in US Treasury bonds 
 denominated in dollars. 
 
 Thus they are funding both the budget gap and the trade gap. 
 
 These huge global imbalances are threatening to derail the world 
 economy, the IMF and other international organisations have warned. 
 
 The classic economic view of how to correct such changes is to adjust 
 the exchange rate in order to make US goods cheaper and Asian goods 
 more expensive. 
 
 But many Asian currencies - especially the Chinese yuan - do not 
 float freely on international currency markets, and the US has long 
 been pressuring China to revalue its currency. 
 
 Now the markets are beginning to take matters into their own hands, 
 by forcing the US dollar down. 
 
 In the long run, the fall in the dollar could lead to a cut in the 
 trade deficit and a boost to US exports. 
 
 But this process often takes a long time, and in the meantime, it is 
 fraught with dangers. 
 
 The fall in the dollar is worrying the IMF, the international 
 organisation charged with surveillance of the world economy. 
 
 A disorderly unwinding of global imbalances would be very damaging, 
 IMF managing director Rodrigo Rato warned at its spring meeting in 
 April. 
 
 Run on the dollar 
 
 In the first place, a rapid fall in the dollar, if it accelerates, 
 could cause short-term problems for the US economy. 
 
 The higher price of imported goods could lead to a hike in domestic 
 inflation, and it could take several years before consumers switch 
 back to buying more US goods. 
 
 High inflation, combined with the stronger-than-expected growth of 
 the US economy, could force the US central bank, the Federal Reserve, 
 to keep raising interest rates. 
 
 They have already been raised 15 times, and now stand at 5%, partly 
 on fears of a growing housing boom. 
 
 But the fears of inflation are also likely to affect the interest 
 rates on long-term bonds, which determine mortgage rates. 
 
 The rising mortgage rates, while they may eventually dampen the 
 housing boom, will also give a further boost to inflationary 
 pressures. 
 
 International exporters hit 
 
 Meanwhile, foreign companies who have derived an increasing 
 proportion of their sales and profits from the US market could also 
 be hit by falling demand for their exports. 
 
 The sharp falls in non-US stock markets, especially in Asia, are a 
 response to this fear, with electronics and car companies like Toyota 
 and Sony especially vulnerable. 
 
 And that in turn could affect the growth rate of countries like 
 China, who derive much of the growth in their economies from exports. 
 
 But the Asian exporters also have another reason to feel vulnerable. 
 
 As the value of the dollar falls, their reserves of the currency also 
 reduce in value, as do the yields on the US Treasury bonds 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trifala - Ayurvedic shield for nuclear radiation

2006-11-27 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rama krishna [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Be it a cancer attack or the deadly assault of nuclear radiation, 
the
 age-old Ayurvedic formulation 'Trifala' holds the power of shielding
 mankind from all these onslaughts, Mr K P Mishra, top Radiation
 Biologist formerly associated with the Bhabha Atomic Research Centre
 (BARC), Mumbai claimed here.

This reminds me of that marvellous TV series, Minder. 
http://www.minder.org/. The oily Arthur Daley came across
a supply of bullet proof vests which may have fallen off 
the back of a lorry. He asked the long suffering Terry to 
busy himself selling them. Terry came back with a swarthy
individual who expressed an interest in seeing the product
tested. Arthur presumed that the buyer was keen to see if 
they fitted well, and so, put one on.

The swarthy gent then reached into his inside jacket pocket
for what seemed to be a heavy object. 
 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie Henning

2006-11-27 Thread llundrub

 Sometimes sensitive people just have mental breakdowns.
 Does anyone know if Michael Richards, has cut back on his 'Sidhi
 Program'?
 R.G.
 R.G.

I had what I have decided is a nervous breakdown at one job where I 
walked out.  I'm a tough guy.  Shit happens.  Best if people allow others to 
get over such things and not judge. (Read between the lines - it can happen 
to you too). That's why weight is restricted on the camel. 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Sanitizing the FF story

2006-11-27 Thread llundrub
  Yet, these have been gone from the TMorg for some while 
 these some things like the evident self-serving is stunning and
 demoralizing in character.  Is about integrity.  The legacy?

 With hopeful regards from FF,
 -Doug

Fuck TMO - Obviously dead at about the time of the Verril's passing. I don't 
see why anyone really cares beyond the few products and services.  Too many 
people were lost in the cracks. I guess like any religion or institution it 
really has no soul or conscience. Criticizing is pointless since there won't 
probably be a next generation of the Movement. How long do people think 
Rajas will hold to their selfimages once the Maharishi dies? 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie Henning

2006-11-27 Thread Peter


--- Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Nov 27, 2006, at 6:38 AM, Peter wrote:
 
  As I just posted, TM is great for anxiety and
  depressive disorders,
 
 
 Dr. Pete,
 I thought it was supposed to be an effortless
 technique for the 
 reduction of stress in general--that's what I
 remember.  I don't recall 
 hearing anything about anxiety or depression.  Did I
 miss something?
 
 Sal

Reduction of stress improves depressive symptoms and
anxiety.



 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Art of Living vs. TM technique

2006-11-27 Thread jyouells2000

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusos108 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusos108 nablusos108@
  wrote:
   This little thing, changing a word here and there in a silly
 article,
   and all the TM-haters goes bananas. They seem to become more and
 more
   desperate as the success from the Invincible America course grows
   stronger.
  
   There is a great purification going on worldwide, and the TM-
 haters
   are just in the middle of it.
  
 
  **
 
  It is because I am not a TM-hater that I object to the pointless
  rewriting of an article in order to give TMers a distorted view of
 what
  is going on in the press. This sort of suppression of actual facts
 is
  typical of weak regimes, like North Korea and other Communist or
 3rd
  world dictatorships.
 
  The WP article was read by lots of people (their print Sunday
 edition
  goes to one million, plus however many read their free web
 edition).
  The invincibleamerica.org site is read by a handful of TMers. So
  editing out material that the TM PR guys found objectionable has no
  effect on the public, but is intended merely to make TMers feel
 good
  about what a great job they are doing spreading good news about TM.
  This false and self-congratulatory attitude does the TMO no good,
 and
  sooner or later, when these Scientology-like gimmicks become well-
 known
  in the media world, TM PR efforts will be derided, just as Stalin's
  airbrushing of photos to eliminate enemies.
 
  Logical and adult people would have written a letter to the editor
 of
  the WP explaining what TM is (certainly not a breath-control
 technique
  as described in the article) and ignored mentions of homeopathic
  remedies,etc. What the TMO gets instead of logical and adult is Bob
  Roth's pathetic lying...

 Agreed. My point is only that it is not much of a big deal. This
 fellow makes a small mistake in his eagerness and them he apologies.
 Why all this agitation over a small thing ?

Is the 'corrected' version still posted?
Or has the original been put up?








Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-27 Thread Peter


--- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Yes, anixiety disorders, depressive disorders, but
  absolutely not psychosis, it only makes it worse,
 much
  worse.
 
 Are we talking specifically about Debbie here?
 
 And if so, are we sure she had become psychotic?

I don't know what happened with Debbie, but psychotics
in general do not benefit from unstructered
experience.





 
  
  --- suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Transcendental Meditation is a natural and
 effective
   cure for mental 
   illness. 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Art of Living vs. TM technique

2006-11-27 Thread Peter


--- nablusos108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 nablusos108 nablusos108@ 
  wrote:
   This little thing, changing a word here and
 there in a silly 
 article, 
   and all the TM-haters goes bananas. They seem to
 become more and 
 more 
   desperate as the success from the Invincible
 America course grows 
   stronger.
   
   There is a great purification going on
 worldwide, and the TM-
 haters 
   are just in the middle of it.
  
  
  **
  
  It is because I am not a TM-hater that I object to
 the pointless 
  rewriting of an article in order to give TMers a
 distorted view of 
 what 
  is going on in the press. This sort of suppression
 of actual facts 
 is 
  typical of weak regimes, like North Korea and
 other Communist or 
 3rd 
  world dictatorships. 
  
  The WP article was read by lots of people (their
 print Sunday 
 edition 
  goes to one million, plus however many read their
 free web 
 edition). 
  The invincibleamerica.org site is read by a
 handful of TMers. So 
  editing out material that the TM PR guys found
 objectionable has no 
  effect on the public, but is intended merely to
 make TMers feel 
 good 
  about what a great job they are doing spreading
 good news about TM. 
  This false and self-congratulatory attitude does
 the TMO no good, 
 and 
  sooner or later, when these Scientology-like
 gimmicks become well-
 known 
  in the media world, TM PR efforts will be derided,
 just as Stalin's 
  airbrushing of photos to eliminate enemies.
  
  Logical and adult people would have written a
 letter to the editor 
 of 
  the WP explaining what TM is (certainly not a
 breath-control 
 technique 
  as described in the article) and ignored mentions
 of homeopathic 
  remedies,etc. What the TMO gets instead of logical
 and adult is Bob 
  Roth's pathetic lying...
 
 Agreed. My point is only that it is not much of a
 big deal. This 
 fellow makes a small mistake in his eagerness and
 them he apologies. 
 Why all this agitation over a small thing ?

Journalistic ethics. You can't change writing, in this
context, without indicating that a change has been
made and noting your change from the original work.
Its so the reader knows who wrote what. In this case
the TMO did not like something about the original
piece and changed it without noting they had changed
it. If you make a change in someone elses writing and
then present  the writing as if the change has not
been made, that is manipulation. 





 
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Trifala - Ayurvedic shield for nuclear radiation

2006-11-27 Thread Peter


--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Nov 27, 2006, at 7:34 AM, Peter wrote:
 
  I'm sorry, this is pure bullsh*t. Will someone
 please
  explain to me how an herb will prevent the massive
  cell death from radiation and the exact mechanics?
  What utter nonsense. Kind of like saying vitamin C
  will prevent car crashes.
 
 Amla, one of the three ingredients in triphala, is a
 powerful free  
 radical scavenger. Radiation induced free radicals
 are neutralized by  
 the scavenging effect of the amla, thus reducing
 oxidation and the  
 free radical effects of ionizing radiation. This
 would most likely  
 apply to low LET radiation, that is, radiation that
 does not transfer  
 a lot of energy to surrounding tisues as it passes
through.

Some general cell repair from minor damage, but I
wonder how it would work if I sprayed my sushi with
polonium? H?




 

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[FairfieldLife] JAMA Caper

2006-11-27 Thread Richard J. Williams
What is this JAMA caper?  

The JAMA Caper refers to the Andrew Skolnick's comments on the Letter
From New Delhi which was published in the Journal of the American
Medical Association (JAMA, 265, 2633-2637, 1991) authored by Hari M.
Sharma, M.D., Brispati Dev Triguna, Deepak Chopra, M.D. 

I read this report when the magazine was first published. My
mint-condition copy of the magazine is in my archives in Santa Roaa, Ca.

About five years ago I got into a dialog with Andrew Skolnick on
Usenet in which he was very critical of this report. During this
debate I began to suspect that none of the respondents, except maybe
Skolnick himself, had even read the report - apparently it's not
available on the Internet - so, I asked several of the TMer
respondents to provide a link to the article and none were able or
willing to do so. 

Recently I viewed a microfiche copy of the article in the local
library, printed it out as a PDF and then used OCR to recover the
article in it's entirety. I spent as near two hours on this project
and posted it to Usenet and Yahoo! Groups, but so far I have recieved
no comment. 

For a limited time only you can read the report on my website archives: 

http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/

The relevant conversation if you can call it that, is here:

However, according to Maharishi, ...over 600 scientific studies at
more than 200 independent research institutions in 35 countries during
the past 40 years confirm that the technique works-and brings
remarkable benefits to people around the world. Research on the
Transcendental Meditation program has been published in more than 100
leading scientific journals, including Scientific American, Business
and Health, Science, and the Journal of the American Medical
Association. 

Source: 

'The Transcendental Meditation Program' 
http://www.tm.org/ 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Date: Fri, Mar 17 2006 9:50 pm  
Groups: alt.meditation.transcendental 
Subject: Insider TMer Report
http://tinyurl.com/y933ae

The Chopra deal presented a fork in the road for the most TMers, since
to public appearances, Chopra was the new Maharishi. Accepting Tony
Nader as King of the World was harder to take than accepting a medical
doctor with magic pills. Then along came the Sri Sri and the Prakash
and now the Kali Ma. Not to worry - if disappointing the TMer base
seemed like a good idea to Mahesh, he was probably correct in saying
to Girish Varma Who needs them? 

From: Judy Stein  
Date: Tues, Apr 4 2006 9:21 am  
Groups: alt.meditation.transcendental, alt.meditation, alt.yoga,
sci.skeptic
Subject: To Lawson
http://tinyurl.com/y23dz3

As I've already noted, I've read it *many* times.  But of course it
wasn't the single most important report by any means. It wasn't even
a study; it was an informal review article. The *only* reason it's
important is that its publication led JAMA to publish a highly
misleading hit piece on Chopra and the TMO that was extremely damaging.

From: Judy Stein 
Date: Tues, Nov 5 1996 2:00 am  
Groups: alt.meditation.transcendental 
Subject: Which Skolnick do you believe?
http://tinyurl.com/yyd58c

Well, I was checking in my archives in connection with another post,
and I noticed some extremely interesting discrepancies in Andrew's
posts concerning the Hagelin letter.  You might even call them yet
another brace of smoking guns. 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
 
 --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
  drpetersutphen@ wrote:
  
   Yes, anixiety disorders, depressive disorders, but
   absolutely not psychosis, it only makes it worse,
  much
   worse.
  
  Are we talking specifically about Debbie here?
  
  And if so, are we sure she had become psychotic?
 
 I don't know what happened with Debbie, but psychotics
 in general do not benefit from unstructered
 experience.

Yes, I understand that, but it sounded as though you
were speaking specifically about Debbie. If not, never
mind.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Nov 27, 2006, at 7:36 AM, Peter wrote:
 
  Yes, anixiety disorders, depressive disorders, but
  absolutely not psychosis, it only makes it worse, much
  worse.
 
 
 Well, and it can be contraindicated in anxiety disorders, borderlines  
 and depression, esp since it can increase anxiety and increase  
 depression. See:
 
 Astin J, Shapiro SL, Schwartz GER. Meditation. In: Novey DW, editor.  
 Clinician's complete reference to complementary and alternative  
 medicine. St Louis: Mosby, 2000; 73-85.
 
 Potential adverse effects of meditation include psychological  
 symptoms such as tension, anxiety, depression, and confusion. A  
 syndrome termed meditation sickness has been recognised. Meditation  
 is contraindicated in patients with psychotic or borderline  
 personality disorders.


OF course, aside from relaxation, diffrent meditation techniques have different 
effects on 
people, and one kind of meditation might be couner-indicated in one abnormal 
person, 
while another form might be neutral or even beneficial.

BTW, even relaxation is not a given with various meditation techniques. Tai Chi 
and the 
like aside, there are meditation techniques shown to increase metabolism 
dramatically, so 
a one-size-fits-all warning obviously doesn't apply.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes, anixiety disorders, depressive disorders, but
 absolutely not psychosis, it only makes it worse, much
 worse.

That is debateable also. Some people with anxiety disorders get worse doing 
relaxation 
techniques while others show no change and some get better.

I would expect the same to hold true of psychosis as well.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie Henning

2006-11-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
  drpetersutphen@ wrote:
  
   The last thing a person needs is transcending when
   they are decompensating and the ego is overwhelmed
   with primary process impulses. But unfortunately
  the
   TMO will not listen to any mental health
   professionals, even meditating ones, in regard to
   people who are struggling with their program and
  their
   life.
  
  For the vast majority of people, including people
  with mental ilness, TM is useful. Even 
  people that have problems with TM usually find that
  lying down for a few minutes after 
  practice and/or reducing practice time, is all that
  is requierd to get rid of most side-effects.
 
 As I just posted, TM is great for anxiety and
 depressive disorders, but some disorders, especially
 psychosis, TM or any internal, unstructured activity
 is the absolutely worst thing that could be done.
 Transcending is not good for very weak minds.

I doubt that you have done any research on this...



[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie Henning

2006-11-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Nov 27, 2006, at 6:38 AM, Peter wrote:
 
  As I just posted, TM is great for anxiety and
  depressive disorders,
 
 
 Dr. Pete,
 I thought it was supposed to be an effortless technique for the 
 reduction of stress in general--that's what I remember.  I don't recall 
 hearing anything about anxiety or depression.  Did I miss something?
 
 Sal


A few people with anxiety disorders become more anxious as they start to relax. 
It fits the 
unstressing/normalization model of TM quite well, but these are extreme cases 
and 
people with ths problem may need to reduce their TM or even abstain in extreme 
cases.

The psychosis thing sounds like it applies more to kundalini techniques than 
TM, but you 
never know.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Trifala - Ayurvedic shield for nuclear radiation

2006-11-27 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 11/27/06 6:36:34 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I'm  sorry, this is pure bullsh*t. Will someone please
explain to me how an herb  will prevent the massive
cell death from radiation and the exact  mechanics?
What utter nonsense. Kind of like saying vitamin C
will  prevent car crashes.



Yeah, if they would have only treated that former Russian KGB guy in  London  
with it.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
 
  
  On Nov 27, 2006, at 7:36 AM, Peter wrote:
  
   Yes, anixiety disorders, depressive disorders, but
   absolutely not psychosis, it only makes it worse, much
   worse.
  
  
  Well, and it can be contraindicated in anxiety disorders, 
 borderlines  
  and depression, esp since it can increase anxiety and increase  
  depression. See:
  
  Astin J, Shapiro SL, Schwartz GER. Meditation. In: Novey DW, 
 editor.  
  Clinician's complete reference to complementary and alternative  
  medicine. St Louis: Mosby, 2000; 73-85.
  
  Potential adverse effects of meditation include psychological  
  symptoms such as tension, anxiety, depression, and confusion. A  
  syndrome termed meditation sickness has been recognised. 
 Meditation  
  is contraindicated in patients with psychotic or borderline  
  personality disorders.
 
 Which meditation techniques were involved here?
 

Who knows? My recollecion is that they discuss nothing but case studies and 
most/all were 
not published prior to thebook. There isn't much in the literature on the topic:

http://tinyurl.com/ve7d7
or 
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?
cmd=Searchdb=PubMedterm=psychosis+meditation



[FairfieldLife] Re: Art of Living vs. TM technique

2006-11-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- nablusos108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
  Agreed. My point is only that it is not much of a
  big deal. This 
  fellow makes a small mistake in his eagerness and
  them he apologies. 
  Why all this agitation over a small thing ?
 
 Journalistic ethics. You can't change writing, in this
 context, without indicating that a change has been
 made and noting your change from the original work.
 Its so the reader knows who wrote what. In this case
 the TMO did not like something about the original
 piece and changed it without noting they had changed
 it. If you make a change in someone elses writing and
 then present  the writing as if the change has not
 been made, that is manipulation. 

I'm not sure manipulation is the correct term, but
the rest is spot-on, and not just for journalists.
It's in the same general category of ethical lapses
as plagiarism.

On the other hand, nablusos is correct that the changes
were cosmetic, not substantive, so it's really just
the principle of the thing in this particular case.
But if that principle wasn't observed here, you can't
have confidence that it would be observed with regard
to changes that *were* substantive in other pieces, past
or future.

So it's most definitely Not a Good Thing.  And from
what Roth has been quoted as saying, it appears he
hasn't grasped what the problem is.




[FairfieldLife] Re: JAMA Caper

2006-11-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What is this JAMA caper?  
 
 The JAMA Caper refers to the Andrew Skolnick's comments on 
the Letter
 From New Delhi which was published in the Journal of the American
 Medical Association (JAMA, 265, 2633-2637, 1991) authored by Hari M.
 Sharma, M.D., Brispati Dev Triguna, Deepak Chopra, M.D. 
 
 I read this report when the magazine was first published. My
 mint-condition copy of the magazine is in my archives in Santa 
Roaa, Ca.
 
 About five years ago I got into a dialog with Andrew Skolnick on
 Usenet in which he was very critical of this report. During this
 debate I began to suspect that none of the respondents, except maybe
 Skolnick himself, had even read the report - apparently it's not
 available on the Internet - so, I asked several of the TMer
 respondents to provide a link to the article and none were able or
 willing to do so.

However, as you know, the Web is not the only
source for published material, so lack of availability
on the Internet says exactly nothing about whether
folks participating in the discussion had read it.

I happen to have had a photocopy of the printed report
and quoted from it in my posts in this discussion.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Trifala - Ayurvedic shield for nuclear radiation

2006-11-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 11/27/06 6:36:34 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 I'm  sorry, this is pure bullsh*t. Will someone please
 explain to me how an herb  will prevent the massive
 cell death from radiation and the exact  mechanics?
 What utter nonsense. Kind of like saying vitamin C
 will  prevent car crashes.
 
 
 
 Yeah, if they would have only treated that former Russian KGB guy in  London  
 with it.


Assuming he could assimilate it (keep it down), I'm willing to bet that he 
would have lived 
significantly longer had he been given MAK 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote:
 
  Yes, anixiety disorders, depressive disorders, but
  absolutely not psychosis, it only makes it worse, much
  worse.
 
 That is debateable also. Some people with anxiety disorders get worse doing 
 relaxation 
 techniques while others show no change and some get better.
 
 I would expect the same to hold true of psychosis as well.


In fact, a check on pubmed with mindfulness psychosis suggests that 
mindfulness, at 
least, is of value to people with pyschosis. Given the 'unstructuredness of 
the example 
technique below, I would expect TM to show similar beneficial results for most 
people::



http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=onlineaid=318019

Paul Chadwick a1c1, Katherine Newman Taylor a2 and Nicola Abba a2
a1 University of Southampton  Royal South Hants Hospital, Southampton, UK
a2 Royal South Hants Hospital, Southampton, UK

chadwick p
taylor kn
abba n
Abstract

The study's objective was to assess the impact on clinical functioning of group 
based 
mindfulness training alongside standard psychiatric care for people with 
current, 
subjectively distressing psychosis. Data are presented from the first 10 people 
to complete 
one of four Mindfulness Groups, each lasting six sessions. People were taught 
mindfulness 
of the breath, and encouraged to let unpleasant experiences come into 
awareness, to 
observe and note them, and let them go without judgment, clinging or struggle. 
There was 
a significant pre-post drop in scores on the CORE (z=[minus sign]2.655, 
p=.008). 
Secondary data indicated improvement in mindfulness skills, and the subjective 
importance of mindfulness to the group process (N=11). The results are 
encouraging and 
warrant further controlled outcome and process research.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Art of Living vs. TM technique

2006-11-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- nablusos108 nablusos108@ wrote:
 snip
   Agreed. My point is only that it is not much of a
   big deal. This 
   fellow makes a small mistake in his eagerness and
   them he apologies. 
   Why all this agitation over a small thing ?
  
  Journalistic ethics. You can't change writing, in this
  context, without indicating that a change has been
  made and noting your change from the original work.
  Its so the reader knows who wrote what. In this case
  the TMO did not like something about the original
  piece and changed it without noting they had changed
  it. If you make a change in someone elses writing and
  then present  the writing as if the change has not
  been made, that is manipulation. 
 
 I'm not sure manipulation is the correct term, but
 the rest is spot-on, and not just for journalists.
 It's in the same general category of ethical lapses
 as plagiarism.
 
 On the other hand, nablusos is correct that the changes
 were cosmetic, not substantive, so it's really just
 the principle of the thing in this particular case.
 But if that principle wasn't observed here, you can't
 have confidence that it would be observed with regard
 to changes that *were* substantive in other pieces, past
 or future.
 
 So it's most definitely Not a Good Thing.  And from
 what Roth has been quoted as saying, it appears he
 hasn't grasped what the problem is.


INSULAR group of people. The same thing happend with JAMA and Chopra. It 
wouldn't 
have killed them to properly fill out the form, and they actually were NOT 
trying to hide 
anything, as far as I can tell, since their original cover letter specifically 
said that they were 
consulting for MAPI. When I pointed out to someone (might have been ROth, might 
have 
been someone else) that they should have been EXTREMELY careful in filling out 
their 
forms because of the hostile environment they were publishing in, the response 
was that 
had they known how hostile it really was, they simply wouldn't have tried to 
publish in the 
first place.






Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie Henning

2006-11-27 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Nov 27, 2006, at 8:58 AM, Peter wrote:

 --- Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Nov 27, 2006, at 6:38 AM, Peter wrote:

 As I just posted, TM is great for anxiety and
 depressive disorders,


 Dr. Pete,
 I thought it was supposed to be an effortless
 technique for the
 reduction of stress in general--that's what I
 remember.  I don't recall
 hearing anything about anxiety or depression.  Did I
 miss something?

 Sal

 Reduction of stress improves depressive symptoms and
 anxiety.

That's the theory, I realize, but in practice it didn't do a whole lot 
for mine, and I meditated regularly for years.  I didn't start for that 
reason, either, so I wasn't disappointed. What I did notice was a  
reduction in some low-level stress, and that's all to the good.  But as 
far as improving symptoms of depression and anxiety, not much.  In 
fact, considering some of the actions of a few of the people I and some 
others encountered on various courses, (a very few, it might be 
noted--most were great) a couple of whom seemed to act without much 
conscience or concern for others, it might have worsened them.

Sal



Re: [FairfieldLife] Trifala - Ayurvedic shield for nuclear radiation

2006-11-27 Thread Vaj


On Nov 27, 2006, at 11:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In a message dated 11/27/06 6:36:34 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I'm sorry, this is pure bullsh*t. Will someone please
explain to me how an herb will prevent the massive
cell death from radiation and the exact mechanics?
What utter nonsense. Kind of like saying vitamin C
will prevent car crashes.
Yeah, if they would have only treated that former Russian KGB guy  
in London  with it.



Methylene blue is the drug of choice in that regard--esp. for dirty  
bombs.

[FairfieldLife] Using morphological hints in interpretation of suutras, part 1: introduction

2006-11-27 Thread cardemaister

(Version 0.1)

The suutra defining /samaadhi/ goes like this:

tadevaartha-maatra-nirbhaasaM sva-ruupa-shuunyamiva samaadhiH

(Without sandhi: tat; eva; artha-maatra-nirbhaasam; sva-ruupa-
shuunyam; iva; samaadhiH)

Swamij's cool explanatory translation (cool, because uses shine
forth for nir-bhaasam...):

3.3 When only the essence of that object, place, or point shines forth
in the mind, as if devoid even of its own form, that state of deep
absorption is called deep concentration or samadhi, which is the
eighth rung.



[FairfieldLife] Real Live Roadrunning

2006-11-27 Thread TurquoiseB
I remember that when the subject came up earlier
there were a few folks here who enjoyed last year's
Emmylou Harris / Mark Knopfler pairing on All The
Roadrunning. Well, the phenomenon didn't end with 
the release of the studio album. They also took 
their Roadrunning act on the road. And recorded it.

The Real Live Roadrunning DVD/CD set provides some 
very intimate looks at this historic pairing. If 
you're a player yourself, you will just drop your
plotz at your ability to see Knopfler's hands, as 
if he were playing two feet away from you, you 
standing there with your jaw on the floor. And let's 
face it...Emmylou would have the jaws of most of the
guys on this list on the floor just standing there, 
much less when she's singing in that slumming angel 
voice.

The intimacy of the group is astounding. These people 
just *love* the music they're playing, *love* that 
life has turned out so miraculously for them that 
they actually get paid to play it, and *love* each 
other as well. I can't think of a better Christmas 
present for your music-loving friends than this set.

Unc





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Art of Living vs. TM technique

2006-11-27 Thread Peter


--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
 drpetersutphen@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- nablusos108 nablusos108@ wrote:
  snip
Agreed. My point is only that it is not much
 of a
big deal. This 
fellow makes a small mistake in his eagerness
 and
them he apologies. 
Why all this agitation over a small thing ?
   
   Journalistic ethics. You can't change writing,
 in this
   context, without indicating that a change has
 been
   made and noting your change from the original
 work.
   Its so the reader knows who wrote what. In this
 case
   the TMO did not like something about the
 original
   piece and changed it without noting they had
 changed
   it. If you make a change in someone elses
 writing and
   then present  the writing as if the change has
 not
   been made, that is manipulation. 
  
  I'm not sure manipulation is the correct term,
 but
  the rest is spot-on, and not just for journalists.
  It's in the same general category of ethical
 lapses
  as plagiarism.
  
  On the other hand, nablusos is correct that the
 changes
  were cosmetic, not substantive, so it's really
 just
  the principle of the thing in this particular
 case.
  But if that principle wasn't observed here, you
 can't
  have confidence that it would be observed with
 regard
  to changes that *were* substantive in other
 pieces, past
  or future.
  
  So it's most definitely Not a Good Thing.  And
 from
  what Roth has been quoted as saying, it appears he
  hasn't grasped what the problem is.
 
 
 INSULAR group of people. The same thing happend with
 JAMA and Chopra. It wouldn't 
 have killed them to properly fill out the form, and
 they actually were NOT trying to hide 
 anything, as far as I can tell, since their original
 cover letter specifically said that they were 
 consulting for MAPI. When I pointed out to someone
 (might have been ROth, might have 
 been someone else) that they should have been
 EXTREMELY careful in filling out their 
 forms because of the hostile environment they were
 publishing in, the response was that 
 had they known how hostile it really was, they
 simply wouldn't have tried to publish in the 
 first place.

No Sparaig, you appear to be the insular one here.
Professionals are very, very careful regarding who
wrote what and when they wrote it. As Judy and
Nabolous point out the change by Roth was trivial, but
it is the principle of the act. If you contacted the
writer of the original story she/he would be furious
that his/her story was changed without such changes
being noted. By the way, what is the Chopra thing
you're talking about? It wasn't clear to me.


 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Trifala - Ayurvedic shield for nuclear radiation

2006-11-27 Thread Peter


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 11/27/06 6:36:34 A.M. Central
 Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 I'm  sorry, this is pure bullsh*t. Will someone
 please
 explain to me how an herb  will prevent the massive
 cell death from radiation and the exact  mechanics?
 What utter nonsense. Kind of like saying vitamin C
 will  prevent car crashes.
 
 
 
 Yeah, if they would have only treated that former
 Russian KGB guy in  London  
 with it.

Yeah, he would have been flying in no time!



 



 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: JAMA Caper

2006-11-27 Thread Richard J. Williams
jstein wrote:
 so, I asked several of the TMer respondents to provide 
 a link to the article and none were able or willing to 
 do so.
 
 However, as you know, the Web is not the only
 source for published material, so lack of availability
 on the Internet says exactly nothing about whether
 folks participating in the discussion had read it.

So, I was correct - hardly anyone on the Internet or on Usenet
actually ever read the report, including all those on this forum.
 
 I happen to have had a photocopy of the printed report
 and quoted from it in my posts in this discussion.

So, why didn't you send me a copy?




[FairfieldLife] You can't believe everything the media shoves at you

2006-11-27 Thread Jeff Fischer
HOLMES' DAD SLAMS MARRIAGE DISAPPROVAL RUMOURS
 
 
  
KATIE HOLMES' dad MARTIN blasted rumours he disapproves of his 
daughter's marriage to TOM CRUISE by giving the couple a moving toast 
at their rehearsal dinner. The lawyer praised Cruise's emotional 
openness and said he was pleased to be entrusting his little girl 
to the right guy during his speech at the 17th century Villa Aurelia, 
near Rome, Italy. He gushed, Tom expressed his love in many different 
ways - obviously he wanted the whole world to know how much he loved 
Katie. I like that. I respect men who are not afraid to show their true 
feelings. I respect Tom for the commitment he had made to provide 
happiness and love to Katie.
27/11/2006 17:16 
 
 




[FairfieldLife] Re: You can't believe everything the media shoves at you

2006-11-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 HOLMES' DAD SLAMS MARRIAGE DISAPPROVAL RUMOURS
  
  
   
 KATIE HOLMES' dad MARTIN blasted rumours he disapproves of his 
 daughter's marriage to TOM CRUISE by giving the couple a moving 
toast 
 at their rehearsal dinner. The lawyer praised Cruise's emotional 
 openness and said he was pleased to be entrusting his little girl 
 to the right guy during his speech at the 17th century Villa 
Aurelia, 
 near Rome, Italy. He gushed, Tom expressed his love in many 
different 
 ways - obviously he wanted the whole world to know how much he 
loved 
 Katie. I like that. I respect men who are not afraid to show their 
true 
 feelings. I respect Tom for the commitment he had made to provide 
 happiness and love to Katie.
 27/11/2006 17:16

Well, there you have it.  We should all stop
criticizing Scientology now.




[FairfieldLife] Re: JAMA Caper

2006-11-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 jstein wrote:
  About five years ago I got into a dialog with Andrew Skolnick on
  Usenet in which he was very critical of this report. During this
  debate I began to suspect that none of the respondents, except 
  maybe Skolnick himself, had even read the report - apparently 
  it's not available on the Internet - so, I asked several of the 
  TMer respondents to provide a link to the article and none were 
  able or willing to do so.
  
  However, as you know, the Web is not the only
  source for published material, so lack of availability
  on the Internet says exactly nothing about whether
  folks participating in the discussion had read it.
 
 So, I was correct - hardly anyone on the Internet or on Usenet
 actually ever read the report, including all those on this forum.

No, you were incorrect in your suspicions (actually
you knew they were incorrect), and also in your
claim that your suspicions were justified because
nobody would give you a (nonexistent) link to the
article.
 
Moreover, you misrepresent the debate with Skolnick,
which began well before you joined alt.m.t, continued
on and off for several years, with many participants,
and in which you were only minimally involved, if at
all.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Art of Living vs. TM technique

2006-11-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
snip
  So it's most definitely Not a Good Thing.  And from
  what Roth has been quoted as saying, it appears he
  hasn't grasped what the problem is.
 
 
 INSULAR group of people. The same thing happend with
 JAMA and Chopra.

Jeez, the Roth incident and the Chopra JAMA flap
are *completely* different situations.  How you
can associate them is beyond me.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-27 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes, anixiety disorders, depressive disorders, but
 absolutely not psychosis, it only makes it worse, much
 worse.
 
What evidence do you personally have here, numbers please? And again, 
are we specifically talking about TM and TMers who were previously 
psychotic? What direct experience have you had with this? I'm looking 
for general outcomes and not limited examples that we've heard about, 
ie., MUM cases. Mark



[FairfieldLife] You are the world

2006-11-27 Thread new7892001

Hello all, 

Here is an approach to inquiry into our daily living, 
which - in case of interest - I would share: 

Text/teaching: 
www.jkrishnamurti.org 

As Videos - online: 
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=J.Krishnamurti 

As Dialogs - an enquiry group: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/J-Krishnamurti_andLife/ 

I would be interested to hear your view on it. 
Regards, 
Jb




Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-27 Thread Bhairitu
In my tradition we don't teach anyone with a mental disorder.  Instead 
we have external healing techniques that can help.

I can recall a few psychotics I checked that really shouldn't have been 
doing TM.  I couldn't tell them that of course.



Peter wrote:
 Yes, anixiety disorders, depressive disorders, but
 absolutely not psychosis, it only makes it worse, much
 worse.

 --- suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective
 cure for mental 
 illness. 

 A large body of research has demonstrated that
 Transcendental 
 Meditation produces comprehensive improvements in
 mental health, 
 enhancing positive features and reducing various
 forms of 
 psychological distress. A systematic review of 144
 studies found that 
 Transcendental Meditation was markedly more
 effective in reducing 
 anxiety than other techniques (including progressive
 muscular 
 relaxation, methods claimed to induce a 'relaxation
 response', and 
 other forms of meditation)

 The superiority of Transcendental Meditation
 remained highly 
 significant when only the strongest and most
 rigorous studies were 
 included in the analysis. Transcendental Meditation
 has also 
 consistently been found to reduce depression,
 hostility, and 
 emotional instability, indicating the growth of a
 more stable, 
 balanced, and resilient personality

 In another statistical review of 42 independent
 research results, 
 Transcendental Meditation was found to be three
 times as effective as 
 other meditation and relaxation procedures in
 increasing self-
 actualization-an overall measure of positive mental
 health and 
 personal development. Further analysis revealed that
 the technique is 
 exceptionally effective in developing three
 independent components of 
 this dimension: emotional maturity, a resilient
 sense of self, and a 
 positive, integrated perspective on ourselves and
 the world

 An exhaustive survey conducted by the Swedish
 National Health Board 
 found evidence that psychiatric hospital admissions
 may be much less 
 common among people practicing Transcendental
 Meditation than in the 
 general population



 The following excerpt is from Maharishi's book  The
 Science of Being 
 and Art of living

 Mental health depends upon the normal functioning of
 the nervous 
 system, so that the full mind is brought to bear
 upon the external 
 world. The normal functioning of the nervous system
 results in 
 physical good health so that the body is able to
 carry out the 
 dictates of the mind, fulfill its desires, and
 fulfill the purpose of 
 existence. 

 As long as the coordination of the mind with the
 nervous system is 
 intact, mental health is maintained. When this
 coordination breaks 
 down, either because of some failure on the part of
 the mind or of 
 the nervous system, ill health is the result. Such
 failure of the 
 mind is brought about by a continued inability to
 fulfill its 
 desires. 

 The main reason for this is weakness in the clarity
 and power of 
 thought, which thus fails to stimulate the nervous
 system to the 
 extent that it can successfully carry out the
 activity needed for 
 fulfillment of the desire. For the most thorough
 coordination and the 
 most perfect functioning, a profound power of
 thought on the part of 
 the mind, together with a corresponding efficient
 executive ability 
 in the nervous system, is required.

 The integrity of the organic nature of the nervous
 system is 
 certainly as essential as the power of the mind. As
 far as their 
 functioning is concerned, they are interdependent.
 It has been found 
 that while the nervous system remains unchanged, an
 improvement of 
 the state of the mind results in an improved state
 of thinking and 
 better coordination between the mind and the world
 around it. When 
 the full mind is brought out to express itself in
 the external world, 
 the subject comes into a more perfect and rewarding
 relationship with 
 the needs of the mind. A mind that is happy and
 contented produces 
 health.

 It has also been found that, if the physical state
 of the nervous 
 system is improved by means of medicine, while the
 state of mind 
 remains the same, the thinking becomes more profound
 and the mind 
 functions more energetically and more efficiently.
 Thus, we find that 
 the mind and the nervous system are interdependent,
 but since the 
 mind is obviously of a more subtle nature than its
 organ, the nervous 
 system, it seems wiser to assume that the mind is
 primary.

 Any number of factors might interfere with the
 growth of a tree, but 
 weakness in the seed itself would overshadow them
 all in importance. 
 In the same way, any number of factors might prevent
 the fulfillment 
 of a need, but weakness of the power of thought must
 certainly 
 overshadow the rest. A strong seed will produce a
 tree even in a 
 desert, while no amount of nurturing will help a
 weak seed. If the 
 basic power of thought 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the dollar is falling so fast

2006-11-27 Thread Bhairitu
The market is down today.  The rumor is Cheney and crew are in the 
Middle East trying to save the dollar.  More and more countries are 
switching to the Euro as the currency standard.  The US could be in for 
an Argentina style economic crisis where the middle class was wiped out 
and many had to sell the furniture in their home just to make their 
house payments.

Of course the pundits are going to save the US from this.  :)

TurquoiseB wrote:
 Tell me about it. In 2002, one US dollar could buy 
 1.13 Euros. Now it takes $1.30 to buy 1 Euro.
 Check out the performance of the dollar against
 only one currency (the Euro) during W's reign:

 http://www.x-rates.com/d/USD/EUR/hist2000.html
 http://www.x-rates.com/d/USD/EUR/hist2001.html
 http://www.x-rates.com/d/USD/EUR/hist2002.html
 http://www.x-rates.com/d/USD/EUR/hist2003.html
 http://www.x-rates.com/d/USD/EUR/hist2004.html
 http://www.x-rates.com/d/USD/EUR/hist2005.html
 http://www.x-rates.com/d/USD/EUR/hist2006.html

 I keep no money in dollars; to do so would be folly.


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4772049.stm
  
 Why the dollar is falling so fast 
 Analysis 
 By Steve Schifferes 
 Economics reporter, BBC News  

 The US dollar is plunging in world currency markets - and bringing 
 down share prices in its wake. 
 But why is the dollar under pressure - and what would be the 
 consequences for the US economy if it continues to fall? 

 Behind the problems of the dollar lies the huge and growing US trade 
 deficit, and the large Federal budget deficit. 

 A fall in the greenback could hit Asian countries whose governments 
 hold huge foreign currency reserves in dollars 

 A disorderly unwinding of global imbalances would be very damaging 
 Rodrigo Rato, IMF Managing Director  

 For many years financial markets have worried about the growing size 
 of the US trade deficit - the difference between the amount the US 
 imports from the rest of the world, and the amount it can sell to the 
 rest of the world. 

 That deficit is now heading above $800bn for 2006, or 7% of the US 
 economy, and shows no signs of diminishing. 

 At the same time, tax cuts and the war in Iraq have led to a US 
 budget deficit of several hundred billion dollars despite the booming 
 economy. 

 Asian giants 

 Much of the trade gap relates to US commerce with East Asian 
 countries such as China, Japan, and Korea, who sell much more to 
 America than they buy. 

 Together, the East Asian countries have accumulated foreign currency 
 surpluses of nearly $1 trillion, much of it held in US Treasury bonds 
 denominated in dollars. 

 Thus they are funding both the budget gap and the trade gap. 

 These huge global imbalances are threatening to derail the world 
 economy, the IMF and other international organisations have warned. 

 The classic economic view of how to correct such changes is to adjust 
 the exchange rate in order to make US goods cheaper and Asian goods 
 more expensive. 

 But many Asian currencies - especially the Chinese yuan - do not 
 float freely on international currency markets, and the US has long 
 been pressuring China to revalue its currency. 

 Now the markets are beginning to take matters into their own hands, 
 by forcing the US dollar down. 

 In the long run, the fall in the dollar could lead to a cut in the 
 trade deficit and a boost to US exports. 

 But this process often takes a long time, and in the meantime, it is 
 fraught with dangers. 

 The fall in the dollar is worrying the IMF, the international 
 organisation charged with surveillance of the world economy. 

 A disorderly unwinding of global imbalances would be very damaging, 
 IMF managing director Rodrigo Rato warned at its spring meeting in 
 April. 

 Run on the dollar 

 In the first place, a rapid fall in the dollar, if it accelerates, 
 could cause short-term problems for the US economy. 

 The higher price of imported goods could lead to a hike in domestic 
 inflation, and it could take several years before consumers switch 
 back to buying more US goods. 

 High inflation, combined with the stronger-than-expected growth of 
 the US economy, could force the US central bank, the Federal Reserve, 
 to keep raising interest rates. 

 They have already been raised 15 times, and now stand at 5%, partly 
 on fears of a growing housing boom. 

 But the fears of inflation are also likely to affect the interest 
 rates on long-term bonds, which determine mortgage rates. 

 The rising mortgage rates, while they may eventually dampen the 
 housing boom, will also give a further boost to inflationary 
 pressures. 

 International exporters hit 

 Meanwhile, foreign companies who have derived an increasing 
 proportion of their sales and profits from the US market could also 
 be hit by falling demand for their exports. 

 The sharp falls in non-US stock markets, especially in Asia, are a 
 response to 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Real Live Roadrunning

2006-11-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Have you also seen Emmy Lou's Spyboy DVD?  Showing more 
 of her range Spyboy is a fusion jazz group she put together 
 to do some of her tunes.

I have the Spyboy CD, but haven't seen the DVD.
I'll keep it in mind. Thanks.






[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the dollar is falling so fast

2006-11-27 Thread claudiouk
Of course the pundits are going to save the US from this. :)

Well that was the underlying question - after all the talk of 
invincible America and hocus pocus effects on American economic 
performance.. kind of goes against expectations... 
as was US growth lowest for 3 years:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6091576.stm

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The market is down today.  The rumor is Cheney and crew are in the 
 Middle East trying to save the dollar.  More and more countries 
are 
 switching to the Euro as the currency standard.  The US could be 
in for 
 an Argentina style economic crisis where the middle class was 
wiped out 
 and many had to sell the furniture in their home just to make 
their 
 house payments.
 
 Of course the pundits are going to save the US from this.  :)
 
 TurquoiseB wrote:
  Tell me about it. In 2002, one US dollar could buy 
  1.13 Euros. Now it takes $1.30 to buy 1 Euro.
  Check out the performance of the dollar against
  only one currency (the Euro) during W's reign:
 
  http://www.x-rates.com/d/USD/EUR/hist2000.html
  http://www.x-rates.com/d/USD/EUR/hist2001.html
  http://www.x-rates.com/d/USD/EUR/hist2002.html
  http://www.x-rates.com/d/USD/EUR/hist2003.html
  http://www.x-rates.com/d/USD/EUR/hist2004.html
  http://www.x-rates.com/d/USD/EUR/hist2005.html
  http://www.x-rates.com/d/USD/EUR/hist2006.html
 
  I keep no money in dollars; to do so would be folly.
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk claudiouk@ 
wrote:

  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4772049.stm
   
  Why the dollar is falling so fast 
  Analysis 
  By Steve Schifferes 
  Economics reporter, BBC News  
 
  The US dollar is plunging in world currency markets - and 
bringing 
  down share prices in its wake. 
  But why is the dollar under pressure - and what would be the 
  consequences for the US economy if it continues to fall? 
 
  Behind the problems of the dollar lies the huge and growing US 
trade 
  deficit, and the large Federal budget deficit. 
 
  A fall in the greenback could hit Asian countries whose 
governments 
  hold huge foreign currency reserves in dollars 
 
  A disorderly unwinding of global imbalances would be very 
damaging 
  Rodrigo Rato, IMF Managing Director  
 
  For many years financial markets have worried about the growing 
size 
  of the US trade deficit - the difference between the amount the 
US 
  imports from the rest of the world, and the amount it can sell 
to the 
  rest of the world. 
 
  That deficit is now heading above $800bn for 2006, or 7% of the 
US 
  economy, and shows no signs of diminishing. 
 
  At the same time, tax cuts and the war in Iraq have led to a US 
  budget deficit of several hundred billion dollars despite the 
booming 
  economy. 
 
  Asian giants 
 
  Much of the trade gap relates to US commerce with East Asian 
  countries such as China, Japan, and Korea, who sell much more 
to 
  America than they buy. 
 
  Together, the East Asian countries have accumulated foreign 
currency 
  surpluses of nearly $1 trillion, much of it held in US Treasury 
bonds 
  denominated in dollars. 
 
  Thus they are funding both the budget gap and the trade gap. 
 
  These huge global imbalances are threatening to derail the 
world 
  economy, the IMF and other international organisations have 
warned. 
 
  The classic economic view of how to correct such changes is to 
adjust 
  the exchange rate in order to make US goods cheaper and Asian 
goods 
  more expensive. 
 
  But many Asian currencies - especially the Chinese yuan - do 
not 
  float freely on international currency markets, and the US has 
long 
  been pressuring China to revalue its currency. 
 
  Now the markets are beginning to take matters into their own 
hands, 
  by forcing the US dollar down. 
 
  In the long run, the fall in the dollar could lead to a cut in 
the 
  trade deficit and a boost to US exports. 
 
  But this process often takes a long time, and in the meantime, 
it is 
  fraught with dangers. 
 
  The fall in the dollar is worrying the IMF, the international 
  organisation charged with surveillance of the world economy. 
 
  A disorderly unwinding of global imbalances would be very 
damaging, 
  IMF managing director Rodrigo Rato warned at its spring meeting 
in 
  April. 
 
  Run on the dollar 
 
  In the first place, a rapid fall in the dollar, if it 
accelerates, 
  could cause short-term problems for the US economy. 
 
  The higher price of imported goods could lead to a hike in 
domestic 
  inflation, and it could take several years before consumers 
switch 
  back to buying more US goods. 
 
  High inflation, combined with the stronger-than-expected growth 
of 
  the US economy, could force the US central bank, the Federal 
Reserve, 
  to keep raising interest rates. 
 
  They have already been raised 15 times, and now stand at 5%, 
partly 
  on fears of a growing housing boom. 
 
  But the fears of 

[FairfieldLife] Leaves me speechless...

2006-11-27 Thread jim_flanegin
Woman Faces Fines For Wreath Peace Sign

By ROBERT WELLER, Associated Press Writer 
Sun Nov 26, 11:13 PM ET
 
DENVER - A homeowners association in southwestern Colorado has 
threatened to fine a resident $25 a day until she removes a 
Christmas wreath with a peace sign that some say is an anti-Iraq war 
protest or a symbol of Satan. 

Some residents who have complained have children serving in Iraq, 
said Bob Kearns, president of the Loma Linda Homeowners Association 
in Pagosa Springs. He said some residents have also believed it was 
a symbol of Satan. Three or four residents complained, he said.

Somebody could put up signs that say drop bombs on Iraq. If you let 
one go up you have to let them all go up, he said in a telephone 
interview Sunday.

Lisa Jensen said she wasn't thinking of the war when she hung the 
wreath. She said, Peace is way bigger than not being at war. This 
is a spiritual thing.

Jensen, a past association president, calculates the fines will cost 
her about $1,000, and doubts they will be able to make her pay. But 
she said she's not going to take it down until after Christmas.

Now that it has come to this I feel I can't get bullied, she 
said. What if they don't like my Santa Claus.

The association in this 200-home subdivision 270 miles southwest of 
Denver has sent a letter to her saying that residents were offended 
by the sign and the board will not allow signs, flags etc. that can 
be considered divisive.

The subdivision's rules say no signs, billboards or advertising are 
permitted without the consent of the architectural control committee.

Kearns ordered the committee to require Jensen to remove the wreath, 
but members refused after concluding that it was merely a seasonal 
symbol that didn't say anything. Kearns fired all five committee 
members.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Leaves me speechless...

2006-11-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Woman Faces Fines For Wreath Peace Sign
 
 By ROBERT WELLER, Associated Press Writer 
 Sun Nov 26, 11:13 PM ET
  
 DENVER - A homeowners association in southwestern Colorado has 
 threatened to fine a resident $25 a day until she removes a 
 Christmas wreath with a peace sign that some say is an anti-
 Iraq war protest or a symbol of Satan. 

As one French News pundit put it after announcing
the news that George W. Bush had been nominated
for the Nobel Peace Prize: 

 Le monde est fou, fou, fou. 

As for Satanic, do you all know about the origin
of the peace sign? It was designed and created in
1958 by the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament in
Great Britain. The symbol combines the two semaphore 
symbols for ND, Nuclear Disarmament. It was divisive 
when it was first created, and nearly 50 years later 
it obviously still is. I would say that another sign 
of that basic divide in humanity is that nearly 50
years later, no matter how many of these symbols
appeared on the landscape, we still haven't seen 
Nuclear Disarmament.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Leaves me speechless...

2006-11-27 Thread Sal Sunshine
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:

 Woman Faces Fines For Wreath Peace Sign

 By ROBERT WELLER, Associated Press Writer
 Sun Nov 26, 11:13 PM ET

 DENVER - A homeowners association in southwestern Colorado has
 threatened to fine a resident $25 a day until she removes a
 Christmas wreath with a peace sign that some say is an anti-
 Iraq war protest or a symbol of Satan.

I wish them luck trying to collect.

Sal



[FairfieldLife] Buddha on the Brain

2006-11-27 Thread authfriend
Intro to an interview on Salon.com with B. Alan Wallace:

Buddha on the brain

Ex-monk B. Alan Wallace explains what Buddhism can teach Western 
scientists, why reincarnation should be taken seriously and what it's 
like to study meditation with the Dalai Lama.

By Steve Paulson

Nov. 27, 2006 | The debate between science and religion typically 
gets stuck on the thorny question of God's existence. How do you 
reconcile an all-powerful God with the mechanistic slog of evolution? 
Can a rationalist do anything but sneer at the Bible's miracles? But 
what if another religion -- a nontheistic one -- offered a way out of 
this impasse? That's the promise that some people hold out for in 
Buddhism. The Dalai Lama himself is deeply invested in reconciling 
science and spirituality. He meets regularly with Western scientists, 
looking for links between Buddhism and the latest research in physics 
and neuroscience. In his book The Universe in a Single Atom, he 
wrote, If scientific analysis were conclusively to demonstrate 
certain claims in Buddhism to be false, then we must accept the 
findings of science and abandon those claims. 

B. Alan Wallace may be the American Buddhist most committed to 
finding connections between Buddhism and science. An ex-Buddhist monk 
who went on to get a doctorate in religious studies at Stanford, he 
once studied under the Dalai Lama, and has acted as one of the 
Tibetan leader's translators. Wallace, now president of the Santa 
Barbara Institute for Consciousness Studies, has written and edited 
many books, often challenging the conventions of modern science. The 
sacred object of its reverence, awe and devotion is not God or 
spiritual enlightenment but the material universe, he writes. He 
accuses prominent scientists like E.O. Wilson and Richard Dawkins of 
practicing a modern kind of nature religion. 

In his new book, Contemplative Science: Where Buddhism and 
Neuroscience Converge, Wallace takes on the loaded subject of 
consciousness. He argues that the long tradition of Buddhist 
meditation, with its rigorous investigation of the mind, has in 
effect pioneered a science of consciousness, and that it has much to 
teach Western scientists. Subjectivity is the central taboo of 
scientific materialism, he writes. He considers the Buddhist 
examination of interior mental states far preferable to what he calls 
the Western idolatry of the brain. And he says the modern obsession 
with brain chemistry has created a false sense of well-being: It is 
natural then to view psychopharmaceutical and psychotropic drugs as 
primary sources of happiness and relief from suffering. Wallace also 
chastises cognitive psychologists and neuroscientists for assuming 
the mind is merely the product of the physical mechanics of the 
brain. And he talks openly about ideas that most scientists would 
consider laughable, including reincarnation and a transcendent 
consciousness. 

Read it all at (you'll have to watch a brief ad first):
http://www.salon.com/books/int/2006/11/27/wallace/





[FairfieldLife] Re: Art of Living vs. TM technique

2006-11-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend
  jstein@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
  drpetersutphen@ 
   wrote:
   
--- nablusos108 nablusos108@ wrote:
   snip
 Agreed. My point is only that it is not much
  of a
 big deal. This 
 fellow makes a small mistake in his eagerness
  and
 them he apologies. 
 Why all this agitation over a small thing ?

Journalistic ethics. You can't change writing,
  in this
context, without indicating that a change has
  been
made and noting your change from the original
  work.
Its so the reader knows who wrote what. In this
  case
the TMO did not like something about the
  original
piece and changed it without noting they had
  changed
it. If you make a change in someone elses
  writing and
then present  the writing as if the change has
  not
been made, that is manipulation. 
   
   I'm not sure manipulation is the correct term,
  but
   the rest is spot-on, and not just for journalists.
   It's in the same general category of ethical
  lapses
   as plagiarism.
   
   On the other hand, nablusos is correct that the
  changes
   were cosmetic, not substantive, so it's really
  just
   the principle of the thing in this particular
  case.
   But if that principle wasn't observed here, you
  can't
   have confidence that it would be observed with
  regard
   to changes that *were* substantive in other
  pieces, past
   or future.
   
   So it's most definitely Not a Good Thing.  And
  from
   what Roth has been quoted as saying, it appears he
   hasn't grasped what the problem is.
  
  
  INSULAR group of people. The same thing happend with
  JAMA and Chopra. It wouldn't 
  have killed them to properly fill out the form, and
  they actually were NOT trying to hide 
  anything, as far as I can tell, since their original
  cover letter specifically said that they were 
  consulting for MAPI. When I pointed out to someone
  (might have been ROth, might have 
  been someone else) that they should have been
  EXTREMELY careful in filling out their 
  forms because of the hostile environment they were
  publishing in, the response was that 
  had they known how hostile it really was, they
  simply wouldn't have tried to publish in the 
  first place.
 
 No Sparaig, you appear to be the insular one here.
 Professionals are very, very careful regarding who
 wrote what and when they wrote it. As Judy and
 Nabolous point out the change by Roth was trivial, but
 it is the principle of the act. If you contacted the
 writer of the original story she/he would be furious
 that his/her story was changed without such changes
 being noted. By the way, what is the Chopra thing
 you're talking about? It wasn't clear to me.

You missed my point. The MUM people are very insular and manage to convince 
themselves that nothing bad will ever happen to them when they ignore the 
accepted way 
of doing things. And the Chopra thing was the JAMA Caper when CHopra, Sharma 
and 
Triguna submitted a paper on Maharishi Ayurveda to JAMA without filling out 
their author-
affiliation form, and JAMA suddenly discovered that they were affiliated with 
the 
organization they were writing about even though the original cover letter had 
explicitly 
stated that they were affiliated:

http://www.aaskolnick.com/junkyarddog/mavletter.jpg
http://www.aaskolnick.com/junkyarddog/mavletter2.jpg

JAMA then published a 6 page expose detailing how awful the TM folk were, in 
response to 
the 3 page paper JAMA  had inadvertently published. JAMA's expose has been 
available 
for years on the web, but the original that prompted the expose has not been. 
Willytex has 
made it available at least for a while, on his website, however.

http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/jama.htm

JAMA's response, curtesy of Andrew Skolnick:

http://web.archive.org/web/2308180136/nasw.org/users/ASkolnick/mav.html

Andrew Skolnick's Judy Stein Worship site:

http://www.aaskolnick.com/junkyarddog/

with an occassional guest appearance by moi:

http://www.aaskolnick.com/junkyarddog/enlightenedHitler.htm
http://www.aaskolnick.com/junkyarddog/mantra.htm





[FairfieldLife] Re: Leaves me speechless...

2006-11-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ 
  wrote:
 
  Woman Faces Fines For Wreath Peace Sign
 
  By ROBERT WELLER, Associated Press Writer
  Sun Nov 26, 11:13 PM ET
 
  DENVER - A homeowners association in southwestern Colorado has
  threatened to fine a resident $25 a day until she removes a
  Christmas wreath with a peace sign that some say is an anti-
  Iraq war protest or a symbol of Satan.
 
 I wish them luck trying to collect.
 
 Sal

The whole thing gives me the creeps...



[FairfieldLife] Re: Leaves me speechless...

2006-11-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ 
wrote:
 
  Woman Faces Fines For Wreath Peace Sign
  
  By ROBERT WELLER, Associated Press Writer 
  Sun Nov 26, 11:13 PM ET
   
  DENVER - A homeowners association in southwestern Colorado has 
  threatened to fine a resident $25 a day until she removes a 
  Christmas wreath with a peace sign that some say is an anti-
  Iraq war protest or a symbol of Satan. 
 
 As one French News pundit put it after announcing
 the news that George W. Bush had been nominated
 for the Nobel Peace Prize: 
 
  Le monde est fou, fou, fou. 
 
Being limited to about ten words in my French vocabulary, I had The 
Google translate this for me (fou = insane). Absolutely accurate! I 
hadn't even heard that W had been nominated- sorta like those folks 
that wanted to carve Reagan's bust into Mt. Rushmore 
(although 'blockhead' was not a bad description for him...). 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Using morphological hints in interpretation of suutras, part 1: introduction

2006-11-27 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 (Version 0.1)
 
 The suutra defining /samaadhi/ goes like this:
 
 tadevaartha-maatra-nirbhaasaM sva-ruupa-shuunyamiva samaadhiH
 
 (Without sandhi: tat; eva; 

Here are the meanings of eva according to Monier-Williams:

eva 1 (in the Sam2hita1 also %{evA4}) ind. (%{i} Un2. i , 152 ; fr.
pronom. base %{e} BRD. , probably connected with 2. %{e4va}) , so ,
just so , exactly so (in the sense of the later %{evam}) RV. AV. ;
indeed , truly , really (often at the beginning of a verse in
conjunction with other particles , as %{id} , %{hi}) RV. ; (in its
most frequent use of strengthening the idea expressed by any word ,
%{eva} must be variously rendered by such adverbs as) just , exactly ,
very , same , only , even , alone , merely , immediately on , still ,
already , c. (e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@'[EMAIL PROTECTED] , 
thou
alone art a charioteer , no other is on earth , i. e. thou art the
best charioteer MBh. iii , 2825 ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]@rAtrim} , just so long
as a night ; %{evam} %{eva} or %{tathai9va} , exactly so , in this
manner only ; in the same manner as above ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ,
with the same Mantra as above ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] , by merely
touching water ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] , these very persons ; [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]@eva} ,
in no long time at all ; %{japyenai9va} , by sole repetition ;
%{abhuktvai9va} , even without having eaten ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]@eva} , at
the very moment of saying so ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]@eva} , he while still
living , c.) RV. c. MBh. c. ; (sometimes , esp. in connection with
other adverbs , %{eva} is a mere expletive without any exact meaning
and not translatable e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED] , %{cai9va} , [EMAIL PROTECTED] , 
c. ;
according to native authorities %{eva} implies emphasis , affirmation
, detraction , diminution , command , restrainment) ; [cf. Zd. {aeva}
; Goth. {aiv} ; Old Germ. {eo} , {io} ; Mod. Germ. {je}.]

---

It seems to us many translators prefer the meaning same.
Thus tadeva (tat + eva) could be translated to that same,
or stuff; tat obviously refers to dhyaanam in the previous
suutra.
The core, or whatever, of the suutra is most probably 
tat; eva...samaadhiH (perhaps: that same, scil. dhyaanam, is
samaadhi, when...)
When is: artha-maatra-nirbhaasam sva-ruupa-shuunyam iva.
Now, that is, from morpho-syntacto-semantic POV, way interesting.
We just realized that artha-maatra-nirbhaasam can be thought
of as a compound other than /bahu-vriihi/, or, [duh], /bahu-vriihi/.
In the latter case both artha-maatra-nirbhaasam and sva-ruupa-
shuunyam might be thought of as adjective attributes defining
implied dhyaanam. This would mean that when dhyaanam is 
artha-maatra-nirbhaasam (the object [of dhaaraNaa] merely
shining??) and sva-ruupa-shuunyam iva (as if own-form-empty), it's
samaadhi! 
I wonder if that makes any sense :D



artha-maatra-nirbhaasam; sva-ruupa-
 shuunyam; iva; samaadhiH)
 
 Swamij's cool explanatory translation (cool, because uses shine
 forth for nir-bhaasam...):
 
 3.3 When only the essence of that object, place, or point shines forth
 in the mind, as if devoid even of its own form, that state of deep
 absorption is called deep concentration or samadhi, which is the
 eighth rung.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Leaves me speechless...

2006-11-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ 
 wrote:
  
   Woman Faces Fines For Wreath Peace Sign
   
   By ROBERT WELLER, Associated Press Writer 
   Sun Nov 26, 11:13 PM ET

   DENVER - A homeowners association in southwestern Colorado has 
   threatened to fine a resident $25 a day until she removes a 
   Christmas wreath with a peace sign that some say is an anti-
   Iraq war protest or a symbol of Satan. 
  
  As one French News pundit put it after announcing
  the news that George W. Bush had been nominated
  for the Nobel Peace Prize: 
  
   Le monde est fou, fou, fou. 
 
 Being limited to about ten words in my French vocabulary, 
 I had The Google translate this for me (fou = insane). 
 Absolutely accurate!

You should have seen the gentleman's delivery. He sat
there, the most popular newscaster in France, reading
the copy he had been given, as the last story of the
evening. Then he removed his glasses, looked into the
camera, and said (translated), The world is mad, mad,
mad. Fade to commercial. 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Leaves me speechless...

2006-11-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ 
 wrote:
  
   Woman Faces Fines For Wreath Peace Sign
   
   By ROBERT WELLER, Associated Press Writer 
   Sun Nov 26, 11:13 PM ET

   DENVER - A homeowners association in southwestern Colorado has 
   threatened to fine a resident $25 a day until she removes a 
   Christmas wreath with a peace sign that some say is an anti-
   Iraq war protest or a symbol of Satan. 
  
  As one French News pundit put it after announcing
  the news that George W. Bush had been nominated
  for the Nobel Peace Prize: 
  
   Le monde est fou, fou, fou. 
  
 Being limited to about ten words in my French vocabulary, I had The 
 Google translate this for me (fou = insane). Absolutely accurate! I 
 hadn't even heard that W had been nominated- sorta like those folks 
 that wanted to carve Reagan's bust into Mt. Rushmore 
 (although 'blockhead' was not a bad description for him...).


Anyone can be nominated. There are literally hundreds of people asked to submit 
nominations every year and I believe there is a large category of people who 
can submit 
nominations without invitation.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Art of Living vs. TM technique

2006-11-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 snip
   So it's most definitely Not a Good Thing.  And from
   what Roth has been quoted as saying, it appears he
   hasn't grasped what the problem is.
  
  
  INSULAR group of people. The same thing happend with
  JAMA and Chopra.
 
 Jeez, the Roth incident and the Chopra JAMA flap
 are *completely* different situations.  How you
 can associate them is beyond me.


They were lax in applying standards. In Bobby Roth's case, he didn't make note 
of changes 
to the text even though it is standard to do so. In Chopra, Sharma and 
Triguna's case, they 
didn't fill out the financial disclosure form because they thought they didn't 
need to. In 
both cases, slopiness in dotting i's and crossing t's came back to haunt them.

When you are dealing with potentially hosite situation, you gotta be twice as 
careful as 
usual. Of course, Bobby Roth had no idea that he was dealing with potentially 
hostile 
people, but should have observed theforms just because.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha on the Brain

2006-11-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 snip to 
 B. Alan Wallace may be the American Buddhist most committed to 
 finding connections between Buddhism and science. An ex-Buddhist 
 monk who went on to get a doctorate in religious studies at 
 Stanford, he once studied under the Dalai Lama, and has acted 
 as one of the Tibetan leader's translators. 

Thanks for passing this recommendation along. I will
have to order the book.

BTW, forget studying at Stanford as a pedigree. Have
you ever seen the Dalai Lama or other Tibetan teachers,
and seen how translation works in that environment?

It's not like the UN version, where the teacher speaks
one sentence or at most two and then pauses so that the
translator can translate. It's more like the teacher
really gettin' into it and talking for five minutes,
while the translator sits there beside him, taking no
notes. Then the Dalai Lama pauses and the translator
does the whole five-minute talk, in another language.

Perfectly.

It's one of the highest artforms I've ever been fortunate
enough to witness. If this guy had that function with
the Dalai Lama, that alone is pedigree enough for me.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Art of Living vs. TM technique

2006-11-27 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusos108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusos108 
nablusos108@ 
  wrote:
   This little thing, changing a word here and there in a silly 
 article, 
   and all the TM-haters goes bananas. They seem to become more 
and 
 more 
   desperate as the success from the Invincible America course 
grows 
   stronger.
   
   There is a great purification going on worldwide, and the TM-
 haters 
   are just in the middle of it.
  
  
  **
  
  It is because I am not a TM-hater that I object to the pointless 
  rewriting of an article in order to give TMers a distorted view 
of 
 what 
  is going on in the press. This sort of suppression of actual 
facts 
 is 
  typical of weak regimes, like North Korea and other Communist or 
 3rd 
  world dictatorships. 
  
  The WP article was read by lots of people (their print Sunday 
 edition 
  goes to one million, plus however many read their free web 
 edition). 
  The invincibleamerica.org site is read by a handful of TMers. So 
  editing out material that the TM PR guys found objectionable has 
no 
  effect on the public, but is intended merely to make TMers feel 
 good 
  about what a great job they are doing spreading good news about 
TM. 
  This false and self-congratulatory attitude does the TMO no good, 
 and 
  sooner or later, when these Scientology-like gimmicks become well-
 known 
  in the media world, TM PR efforts will be derided, just as 
Stalin's 
  airbrushing of photos to eliminate enemies.
  
  Logical and adult people would have written a letter to the 
editor 
 of 
  the WP explaining what TM is (certainly not a breath-control 
 technique 
  as described in the article) and ignored mentions of homeopathic 
  remedies,etc. What the TMO gets instead of logical and adult is 
Bob 
  Roth's pathetic lying...
 


 Agreed. My point is only that it is not much of a big deal. This 
 fellow makes a small mistake in his eagerness and them he 
apologies. 
 Why all this agitation over a small thing ?




Well, obviously, you like TM, as do I, so it's important to share 
this Vedic technology with the world. Bob Roth did not make a mistake 
here -- it's part and parcel of the defective and inadequate 
personalities that run the TMO, deliberate policy that they pursue 
over and over regardless of the fact that it does not produce results 
(useful results, although all sorts of negative publicity is 
generated). Also, Roth did not make any real apology -- the altered 
WP story is still on the invincibleamerica.org web site, and clearly 
he is not telling the truth about the way this thing played out.

I would not describe myself as agitated over this issue, but it 
certainly is annoying to see birdbrains managing the movement. But 
that's life in the Kaliyuga, which cannot see its trends reversed 
instantaneously, or there would be fear and havoc:

http://geocities.com/bbrigante/retards.html#light



[FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha on the Brain

2006-11-27 Thread authfriend
A few excerpts from the interview:

Science is as much about method as anything. The scientific method 
posits hypotheses and theories that can be tested. Is that something 
Buddhism does as well? 

Not in the same way. I wouldn't want to overplay the case that 
Buddhism has always been a science, with clear hypotheses and 
complete skepticism. It's too much of a religion, and so there's a 
lot of vested interest in the Buddhist community not to challenge the 
statements made by the Buddha and other great patriarchs in the 
Buddhist tradition. So there are some fundamental differences. At the 
same time, science is not just science. This very notion that the 
mind must simply be an emergent property of the brain -- consisting 
only of physical phenomena and nothing more -- is not a testable 
hypothesis. Science is based upon a very profound metaphysical 
foundation. Can you test the statement that there is nothing else 
going on apart from physical phenomena and their emergent properties? 
The answer is no.



In science, you have a hypothesis that's tested, and it can be 
disproved. Does that happen in Buddhism? 

On its home turf, frequently not. But I'm also waiting for a 
neuroscientist to tell me how the hypothesis that mental states are 
nothing more than neural states will be repudiated. I don't see that 
as a testable hypothesis. So there's a fair amount of dogma, not in 
science per se but in the minds of scientists. Likewise, there's 
plenty of dogma in the minds of Buddhists. But Buddhism at its best --
 and we go right back to the teachings of the Buddha himself -- 
encourages a spirit of skepticism. He said, Do not take my 
statements to be true simply out of reverence for me. But rather, put 
them to the test. Well, if you do that, you should be able to 
repudiate them as well as confirm them.



[From the scientific perspective,] your consciousness is a product of 
the brain. Damage the brain and your consciousness evaporates into 
nothing. Now what's the experiment by which you repudiate that 
hypothesis? Well, all the mental states you're studying are by way of 
the brain, so the answer is nada. So it's not scientific and it's not 
testable, at least not yet.



Is Buddhism a religion or is it something else? Because there are 
some people in the West who say we should strip Buddhism of any 
vestiges of the religious or the transcendental. For instance, 
Stephen Batchelor, in his book Buddhism Without Beliefs, 
writes, The Buddha was not a mystic. His awakening was not a 
shattering insight into a transcendental truth that revealed to him 
the mysteries of God. He did not claim to have had an experience that 
granted him privileged, esoteric knowledge of how the universe 
ticks. Is Stephen Batchelor right? 

[Laughs] I've known Stephen Batchelor for almost 35 years. We were 
monks together for years, both in India and in Switzerland. To come 
up with this picture of the Buddha, you have to bring out a carving 
knife and chop off great sections of the most authentic accounts we 
have of the Buddha's own teachings. You simply have to ignore and 
pretend he never said an enormous number of things he did say. I 
think Stephen, my dear friend, has recast the Buddha in his own image 
as an English skeptic who was raised in an agnostic background, who 
really doesn't believe in anything nonphysical. 

 

Read it all at (you'll have to watch a brief ad first):
http://www.salon.com/books/int/2006/11/27/wallace/





[FairfieldLife] Jenna Bush UNICEF work in Paraguay???

2006-11-27 Thread jim_flanegin
Out of curiosity I've just visited the UNICEF homepage and the UNICEF 
page for Paraguay and there is no mention at all of the Jenna Bush 
visit. Other well known people are mentioned by UNICEF on the website  
and their press releases seem up to date, so I am at a loss why when 
the daughter of the current Prez visits, ostensibly to work for 
UNICEF, there is no mention at all. 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Jenna Bush UNICEF work in Paraguay???

2006-11-27 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 11/27/06 6:24:23 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Out of  curiosity I've just visited the UNICEF homepage and the UNICEF 
page for  Paraguay and there is no mention at all of the Jenna Bush 
visit. Other  well known people are mentioned by UNICEF on the website 
and their press  releases seem up to date, so I am at a loss why when 
the daughter of the  current Prez visits, ostensibly to work for 
UNICEF, there is no mention at  all. 



Security


[FairfieldLife] Re: Jenna Bush UNICEF work in Paraguay???

2006-11-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 11/27/06 6:24:23 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Out of  curiosity I've just visited the UNICEF homepage and the 
UNICEF 
 page for  Paraguay and there is no mention at all of the Jenna Bush 
 visit. Other  well known people are mentioned by UNICEF on the 
website 
 and their press  releases seem up to date, so I am at a loss why when 
 the daughter of the  current Prez visits, ostensibly to work for 
 UNICEF, there is no mention at  all. 
 
 Security

The State Department has apparently issued a request
for the twins to leave because they were attracting
so much publicity (much of it negative).  One reporter
said he had gone to their hotel and found them 
lounging around in the hotel's public area with no
Secret Service in sight.  One of them (Barbara, I
think) had her purse stolen in a restaurant right
under the noses of the Secret Service agents.

The twins have declined to leave.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Debbie Henning

2006-11-27 Thread Jason Spock
 
  O, Sagacious one.  Have I made a mistake.??  Please feel free to point 
out if I have done so.
   
  By the way, I used to read, 'Amar Chitra Katha', indian mythology comics 
a lot.  You do seem to have some psychc abilities.  but, Spiderman is my 
favorite.
   
  

Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 20:40:42 -0500
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Debbie Henning

   
   LOL. Have you been readin' them thar Vedic comic books again Jase?
   
   
On Nov 26, 2006, at 5:16 PM, Jason Spock wrote:
   
   But, TM is a Scientific technique practiced for thousands of years by Vedic 
Seers.
   

   

 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Debbie Henning

2006-11-27 Thread Jason Spock
 
  Yes Dr. Pete, I understand that Notion.  No two individuals are alike.  
   
   Every individual comes from an unique background with a unique psyche.
   
   You have to approach your patient as a 'Totality', ie body, mind and 
spirit.
   
  ' Horses for Courses', is the best approach.
   
  For the conditions you have mentioned, 'Tai Chi', basic Pranayama and 
Sudharshan Kriya can do wonders.
   
  I had a long chat with my Sudharshan Kriya tutor.  He gave me numerous 
examples of how people with hysterical conditions have been made far better.  
   
  What does the terminology 'decompensation' mean.?
   
  Do you use Thomas Harris's, 'Transactional analysis' in your therapy.??

Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 19:31:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Debbie Henning

   
  Jason, you're actually wrong here. If a person is
decompensating and their ego structures are breaking
down and they are identified with those structures,
they are becoming psychotic. They need much less or no
meditation and plenty of activity to engage the mind,
senses and language. People have different nervous
systems. Some can have no problem with long hours of
meditastion, such as yourself, others flip out.

  
--- Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:

 There is Nothing wrong with practicing TM for
 long periods.
 
 I used to practice TM for 8 or 9 hours a
 day.!! I was sufering from Chronic Malaria for two
 years, a sub-lethal attack. It took a long time for
 the Doctors to diagnoise it. During that period I
 practiced TM for very extended periods. I don't
 practice that long off late.
 
 But, TM is a Scientific technique practiced for
 thousands of years by Vedic Seers.
   
   

 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-27 Thread suziezuzie
At what level of psychosis would you suggest that someone shouldn't 
meditate? And how do you define psychosis, what symptoms are 
manifesting in those you checked? For example do they exhibit 
paranoia or compulsive obsessive behaviors? Are they schizophrenic? I 
know someone who always looks to their right when they eat as if 
someone is watching them. They also talk to themselves quite 
habitually as if another person is in the room. Would you initiate 
someone like this? How do you judge at what level someone's psychosis 
becomes a hazard to the practice and that TM would make it worse? 

On another note, what do you think psychosis is? Why and how does 
this behavior manifest itself? Do you think it's purely an organic 
defect that has some expression in the personality such as paranoia? 
Why does TM make it worse? 

Mark


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In my tradition we don't teach anyone with a mental disorder.  
Instead 
 we have external healing techniques that can help.
 
 I can recall a few psychotics I checked that really shouldn't have 
been 
 doing TM.  I couldn't tell them that of course.
 
 
 
 Peter wrote:
  Yes, anixiety disorders, depressive disorders, but
  absolutely not psychosis, it only makes it worse, much
  worse.
 
  --- suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

  Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective
  cure for mental 
  illness. 
 
  A large body of research has demonstrated that
  Transcendental 
  Meditation produces comprehensive improvements in
  mental health, 
  enhancing positive features and reducing various
  forms of 
  psychological distress. A systematic review of 144
  studies found that 
  Transcendental Meditation was markedly more
  effective in reducing 
  anxiety than other techniques (including progressive
  muscular 
  relaxation, methods claimed to induce a 'relaxation
  response', and 
  other forms of meditation)
 
  The superiority of Transcendental Meditation
  remained highly 
  significant when only the strongest and most
  rigorous studies were 
  included in the analysis. Transcendental Meditation
  has also 
  consistently been found to reduce depression,
  hostility, and 
  emotional instability, indicating the growth of a
  more stable, 
  balanced, and resilient personality
 
  In another statistical review of 42 independent
  research results, 
  Transcendental Meditation was found to be three
  times as effective as 
  other meditation and relaxation procedures in
  increasing self-
  actualization-an overall measure of positive mental
  health and 
  personal development. Further analysis revealed that
  the technique is 
  exceptionally effective in developing three
  independent components of 
  this dimension: emotional maturity, a resilient
  sense of self, and a 
  positive, integrated perspective on ourselves and
  the world
 
  An exhaustive survey conducted by the Swedish
  National Health Board 
  found evidence that psychiatric hospital admissions
  may be much less 
  common among people practicing Transcendental
  Meditation than in the 
  general population
 
 
 
  The following excerpt is from Maharishi's book  The
  Science of Being 
  and Art of living
 
  Mental health depends upon the normal functioning of
  the nervous 
  system, so that the full mind is brought to bear
  upon the external 
  world. The normal functioning of the nervous system
  results in 
  physical good health so that the body is able to
  carry out the 
  dictates of the mind, fulfill its desires, and
  fulfill the purpose of 
  existence. 
 
  As long as the coordination of the mind with the
  nervous system is 
  intact, mental health is maintained. When this
  coordination breaks 
  down, either because of some failure on the part of
  the mind or of 
  the nervous system, ill health is the result. Such
  failure of the 
  mind is brought about by a continued inability to
  fulfill its 
  desires. 
 
  The main reason for this is weakness in the clarity
  and power of 
  thought, which thus fails to stimulate the nervous
  system to the 
  extent that it can successfully carry out the
  activity needed for 
  fulfillment of the desire. For the most thorough
  coordination and the 
  most perfect functioning, a profound power of
  thought on the part of 
  the mind, together with a corresponding efficient
  executive ability 
  in the nervous system, is required.
 
  The integrity of the organic nature of the nervous
  system is 
  certainly as essential as the power of the mind. As
  far as their 
  functioning is concerned, they are interdependent.
  It has been found 
  that while the nervous system remains unchanged, an
  improvement of 
  the state of the mind results in an improved state
  of thinking and 
  better coordination between the mind and the world
  around it. When 
  the full mind is brought out to express itself in
  the external world, 
  the subject comes into a more 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jenna Bush UNICEF work in Paraguay???

2006-11-27 Thread Bhairitu
authfriend wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
  
 In a message dated 11/27/06 6:24:23 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Out of  curiosity I've just visited the UNICEF homepage and the 
 
 UNICEF 
   
 page for  Paraguay and there is no mention at all of the Jenna Bush 
 visit. Other  well known people are mentioned by UNICEF on the 
 
 website 
   
 and their press  releases seem up to date, so I am at a loss why when 
 the daughter of the  current Prez visits, ostensibly to work for 
 UNICEF, there is no mention at  all. 

 Security
 

 The State Department has apparently issued a request
 for the twins to leave because they were attracting
 so much publicity (much of it negative).  One reporter
 said he had gone to their hotel and found them 
 lounging around in the hotel's public area with no
 Secret Service in sight.  One of them (Barbara, I
 think) had her purse stolen in a restaurant right
 under the noses of the Secret Service agents.

 The twins have declined to leave.
I can see the video ads now:
Presidential Twins Gone Wild!  :)




[FairfieldLife] Who is the Stringer.??

2006-11-27 Thread Jason Spock
 
  Toni - Posted: 03-26-2005 09:04 AM   Post subject: From private messages 
twixt former TM groupies
  
So, a circus story for you follows ... devout celibate bramacharya (monk) that 
you were: 
  
There was a 'stringer' (she put together the spiritual necklaces) at Crest 
Jewel who tried to bed as many 108/bramacharyas/ purusha boys as she could. She 
had a special strand of linked rudraksha beads, one bead per celibate she'd 
bedded. Back in 1980, she had over 50 beads on her special strand, before she 
was 30 years old herself. The beads linked in silver, wrapped around her wrist 
- her badge of sexual superiority over Mahesh's celibate control. Bevan was her 
goal. I don't know if she ever made it. 
  
Someone else used to have phone sex with Bevan Morris (for the lurkers, he's 
one of the devoted monk-like leaders at top). Bevan used to call her from all 
over the world. 
  
Martin - Posted: 03-26-2005 01:08 PM   Post subject: of snakes and oil and 
salesmen and punters
  
Love the story about the stringer. I wonder if Mahesh kept track of the women 
he bedded. I noticed when I was in Seelisberg that he stopped wearing the 
string of coral on gold wire with the medallion of Guru Dev (I think Shiva was 
on the other side ... Mahesh means Shiva). Was he too ashamed? Doubtful. The 
bedding had gone on since the early 60's. Probably someone nicked it. He played 
a wire recording of Guru Dev one evening and later we heard somone had nicked 
the wire recordings. At least one of them is not available on the Internet. 
  
Bevan and phone sex sounds about right. Who'd have him really? Well, I suppose 
we both know the blissninnies who would. 
  
For lurkers: bliss ninny is a tm term from the early days and indicated the 
idiotic types who assumed they were blissful and highly evolved. They were sort 
of faries, after a fashion, tm enlightenment faries. They were disgusting, 
pretentious and really gave the movement a bad name. 
  
They were, in Mahesh's own words, moodmakers. Later he discovered that actually 
selling moodmaking brought in heaps of cash. 
  
There were also quite sensible, good people around him. They were great to be 
around and could actually be trusted if you had a problem. Since Mahesh didn't 
like problems, you had to be sure he didn't find out you had a problem. It kept 
everyone in line on the surface, superficial level and contributed to a tm 
underground of sorts. I spent quite a few evenings with Mahesh Bashers in 
Seelisberg. Since we all had evil stories to tell, we knew we could trust one 
another because we couln't grass on one another. 
  
So I picked up quite a bit. But even we, then, at that time, there, didn't know 
about Mahesh screwing the faithful women -- we didn't know and yet, night after 
night, there were always a few women who paraded out of the lecture hall and 
followed him to his room. 
  
Must have been highly confidential Organization business. At least that's what 
we rationalized. Even the worst of the Mahesh Bashers never brought it up. 
  
Delusional thinking plays a big role in cult maintenance. At some point the 
bubble breaks for someone. So, like Abraham Lincoln said: you can fool some of 
the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time, but you 
can't fool all of the people all of the time. 
  
M
  
Toni - Posted: 07-17-2005 02:24 PM   Post subject: A Tale of Two Gurus
  
Petrick contrasts Amma's down-to-earth mission of helping the poor with 
Maharishi's promises of world peace and supernatural powers like levitation. 
  
There's no pie in the sky with her, he said. 
  
The upper ranks of the TM movement are filled with excellencies and 
highnesses. For $1 million, you can take a course that entitles you to become 
a raja, or king, in the Global Country of World Peace. And every so often, 
you can see white stretch limousines driving around Fairfield with the Global 
Country's golden flag fluttering in the breeze. 
  
It should surprise no one that such airs of royalty don't go over well in 
America -- which, after all, fought a revolution to get rid of its monarchy. 
  
But they also contrast sharply with the tales of humility told by Amma's 
admirers, who say she's been known to carry bricks on her head and jump into 
sewers to work alongside her followers. 
  
She teaches by example, I think, that we're all created equal and that you 
don't have the big important people and the little peons, said Archer. 
  
Amma's humanitarian efforts -- building homes for the poor, funding hospitals, 
coordinating tsunami relief -- contrast just as sharply with the TM movement's 
fundraising campaigns, which promise world peace but never seem to make a 
concrete impact. The latest TM campaign is an effort to build 3,000 peace 
palaces around the world, with a price tag of $3 million each. The total is a 
staggering $9 billion -- which could build a lot of hospitals. 
  
Faced with a choice between an organization that builds 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Art of Living vs. TM technique

2006-11-27 Thread Peter


--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  
  --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 authfriend
   jstein@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
   drpetersutphen@ 
wrote:

 --- nablusos108 nablusos108@ wrote:
snip
  Agreed. My point is only that it is not
 much
   of a
  big deal. This 
  fellow makes a small mistake in his
 eagerness
   and
  them he apologies. 
  Why all this agitation over a small thing
 ?
 
 Journalistic ethics. You can't change
 writing,
   in this
 context, without indicating that a change
 has
   been
 made and noting your change from the
 original
   work.
 Its so the reader knows who wrote what. In
 this
   case
 the TMO did not like something about the
   original
 piece and changed it without noting they had
   changed
 it. If you make a change in someone elses
   writing and
 then present  the writing as if the change
 has
   not
 been made, that is manipulation. 

I'm not sure manipulation is the correct
 term,
   but
the rest is spot-on, and not just for
 journalists.
It's in the same general category of ethical
   lapses
as plagiarism.

On the other hand, nablusos is correct that
 the
   changes
were cosmetic, not substantive, so it's really
   just
the principle of the thing in this particular
   case.
But if that principle wasn't observed here,
 you
   can't
have confidence that it would be observed with
   regard
to changes that *were* substantive in other
   pieces, past
or future.

So it's most definitely Not a Good Thing.  And
   from
what Roth has been quoted as saying, it
 appears he
hasn't grasped what the problem is.
   
   
   INSULAR group of people. The same thing happend
 with
   JAMA and Chopra. It wouldn't 
   have killed them to properly fill out the form,
 and
   they actually were NOT trying to hide 
   anything, as far as I can tell, since their
 original
   cover letter specifically said that they were 
   consulting for MAPI. When I pointed out to
 someone
   (might have been ROth, might have 
   been someone else) that they should have been
   EXTREMELY careful in filling out their 
   forms because of the hostile environment they
 were
   publishing in, the response was that 
   had they known how hostile it really was, they
   simply wouldn't have tried to publish in the 
   first place.
  
  No Sparaig, you appear to be the insular one here.
  Professionals are very, very careful regarding who
  wrote what and when they wrote it. As Judy and
  Nabolous point out the change by Roth was trivial,
 but
  it is the principle of the act. If you contacted
 the
  writer of the original story she/he would be
 furious
  that his/her story was changed without such
 changes
  being noted. By the way, what is the Chopra thing
  you're talking about? It wasn't clear to me.
 
 You missed my point. The MUM people are very insular
 and manage to convince 
 themselves that nothing bad will ever happen to them
 when they ignore the accepted way 
 of doing things. And the Chopra thing was the JAMA
 Caper when CHopra, Sharma and 
 Triguna submitted a paper on Maharishi Ayurveda to
 JAMA without filling out their author-
 affiliation form, and JAMA suddenly discovered
 that they were affiliated with the 
 organization they were writing about even though the
 original cover letter had explicitly 
 stated that they were affiliated:

Sorry man! I get your point now.




 
 http://www.aaskolnick.com/junkyarddog/mavletter.jpg
 http://www.aaskolnick.com/junkyarddog/mavletter2.jpg
 
 JAMA then published a 6 page expose detailing how
 awful the TM folk were, in response to 
 the 3 page paper JAMA  had inadvertently
 published. JAMA's expose has been available 
 for years on the web, but the original that prompted
 the expose has not been. Willytex has 
 made it available at least for a while, on his
 website, however.
 
 http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/jama.htm
 
 JAMA's response, curtesy of Andrew Skolnick:
 

http://web.archive.org/web/2308180136/nasw.org/users/ASkolnick/mav.html
 
 Andrew Skolnick's Judy Stein Worship site:
 
 http://www.aaskolnick.com/junkyarddog/
 
 with an occassional guest appearance by moi:
 

http://www.aaskolnick.com/junkyarddog/enlightenedHitler.htm
 http://www.aaskolnick.com/junkyarddog/mantra.htm
 
 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: JAMA Caper

2006-11-27 Thread Richard J. Williams
jstein wrote: 
 No, you were incorrect in your suspicions (actually
 you knew they were incorrect), and also in your
 claim that your suspicions were justified because
 nobody would give you a (nonexistent) link to the
 article.
 
I'm still suspicious - after re-reading the relevant threads, it would
appear that not a single one of the respondents had actually read the
report published in JAMA, much less the Hoodwinked JAMA Caper
written by Skolnick.

 Moreover, you misrepresent the debate with Skolnick,
 which began well before you joined alt.m.t, continued
 on and off for several years, with many participants,
 and in which you were only minimally involved, if at
 all.

So, when are you going to read it? You are supposed to read the report
BEFORE you make your comments.

From: Kurt Arbuckle
Date: Thurs, Dec 29 1994 1:44 pm
Groups: alt.meditation.transcendental, sci.skeptic, sci.med,
alt.journalism
Subject: JAMA editor and Ayurveda
http://tinyurl.com/y3g3b6

This post is about the current thread(s) concerning the JAMA article
about Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's version of Ayurveda. The story is that
some proponents of MA (Maharishi's Ayurveda) were permitted to publish
an article on the subject in JAMA (the Journal of the American Medical
Association). 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jenna Bush UNICEF work in Paraguay???

2006-11-27 Thread Bhairitu
Bhairitu wrote:
 authfriend wrote:
   
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 
  
 In a message dated 11/27/06 6:24:23 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Out of  curiosity I've just visited the UNICEF homepage and the 
 
   
 UNICEF 
   
 
 page for  Paraguay and there is no mention at all of the Jenna Bush 
 visit. Other  well known people are mentioned by UNICEF on the 
 
   
 website 
   
 
 and their press  releases seem up to date, so I am at a loss why when 
 the daughter of the  current Prez visits, ostensibly to work for 
 UNICEF, there is no mention at  all. 

 Security
 
   
 The State Department has apparently issued a request
 for the twins to leave because they were attracting
 so much publicity (much of it negative).  One reporter
 said he had gone to their hotel and found them 
 lounging around in the hotel's public area with no
 Secret Service in sight.  One of them (Barbara, I
 think) had her purse stolen in a restaurant right
 under the noses of the Secret Service agents.

 The twins have declined to leave.
 
 I can see the video ads now:
 Presidential Twins Gone Wild!  :)
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/11/first_daughter_.html



Re: [FairfieldLife] Who is the Stringer.??

2006-11-27 Thread Peter
I wish the stringer was around when i was on purusha!

--- Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
   Toni - Posted: 03-26-2005 09:04 AM   Post subject:
 From private messages twixt former TM groupies
   
 So, a circus story for you follows ... devout
 celibate bramacharya (monk) that you were: 
   
 There was a 'stringer' (she put together the
 spiritual necklaces) at Crest Jewel who tried to bed
 as many 108/bramacharyas/ purusha boys as she could.
 She had a special strand of linked rudraksha beads,
 one bead per celibate she'd bedded. Back in 1980,
 she had over 50 beads on her special strand, before
 she was 30 years old herself. The beads linked in
 silver, wrapped around her wrist - her badge of
 sexual superiority over Mahesh's celibate control.
 Bevan was her goal. I don't know if she ever made
 it. 
   
 Someone else used to have phone sex with Bevan
 Morris (for the lurkers, he's one of the devoted
 monk-like leaders at top). Bevan used to call her
 from all over the world. 
   
 Martin - Posted: 03-26-2005 01:08 PM   Post subject:
 of snakes and oil and salesmen and punters
   
 Love the story about the stringer. I wonder if
 Mahesh kept track of the women he bedded. I noticed
 when I was in Seelisberg that he stopped wearing the
 string of coral on gold wire with the medallion of
 Guru Dev (I think Shiva was on the other side ...
 Mahesh means Shiva). Was he too ashamed? Doubtful.
 The bedding had gone on since the early 60's.
 Probably someone nicked it. He played a wire
 recording of Guru Dev one evening and later we heard
 somone had nicked the wire recordings. At least one
 of them is not available on the Internet. 
   
 Bevan and phone sex sounds about right. Who'd have
 him really? Well, I suppose we both know the
 blissninnies who would. 
   
 For lurkers: bliss ninny is a tm term from the
 early days and indicated the idiotic types who
 assumed they were blissful and highly evolved. They
 were sort of faries, after a fashion, tm
 enlightenment faries. They were disgusting,
 pretentious and really gave the movement a bad
 name. 
   
 They were, in Mahesh's own words, moodmakers. Later
 he discovered that actually selling moodmaking
 brought in heaps of cash. 
   
 There were also quite sensible, good people around
 him. They were great to be around and could actually
 be trusted if you had a problem. Since Mahesh didn't
 like problems, you had to be sure he didn't find out
 you had a problem. It kept everyone in line on the
 surface, superficial level and contributed to a tm
 underground of sorts. I spent quite a few evenings
 with Mahesh Bashers in Seelisberg. Since we all had
 evil stories to tell, we knew we could trust one
 another because we couln't grass on one another. 
   
 So I picked up quite a bit. But even we, then, at
 that time, there, didn't know about Mahesh screwing
 the faithful women -- we didn't know and yet, night
 after night, there were always a few women who
 paraded out of the lecture hall and followed him to
 his room. 
   
 Must have been highly confidential Organization
 business. At least that's what we rationalized. Even
 the worst of the Mahesh Bashers never brought it up.
 
   
 Delusional thinking plays a big role in cult
 maintenance. At some point the bubble breaks for
 someone. So, like Abraham Lincoln said: you can fool
 some of the people some of the time and some of the
 people all of the time, but you can't fool all of
 the people all of the time. 
   
 M
   
 Toni - Posted: 07-17-2005 02:24 PM   Post subject: A
 Tale of Two Gurus
   
 Petrick contrasts Amma's down-to-earth mission of
 helping the poor with Maharishi's promises of world
 peace and supernatural powers like levitation. 
   
 There's no pie in the sky with her, he said. 
   
 The upper ranks of the TM movement are filled with
 excellencies and highnesses. For $1 million, you
 can take a course that entitles you to become a
 raja, or king, in the Global Country of World
 Peace. And every so often, you can see white stretch
 limousines driving around Fairfield with the Global
 Country's golden flag fluttering in the breeze. 
   
 It should surprise no one that such airs of royalty
 don't go over well in America -- which, after all,
 fought a revolution to get rid of its monarchy. 
   
 But they also contrast sharply with the tales of
 humility told by Amma's admirers, who say she's been
 known to carry bricks on her head and jump into
 sewers to work alongside her followers. 
   
 She teaches by example, I think, that we're all
 created equal and that you don't have the big
 important people and the little peons, said Archer.
 
   
 Amma's humanitarian efforts -- building homes for
 the poor, funding hospitals, coordinating tsunami
 relief -- contrast just as sharply with the TM
 movement's fundraising campaigns, which promise
 world peace but never seem to make a concrete
 impact. The latest TM campaign is an effort to build
 3,000 peace palaces around the world, 

[FairfieldLife] Re: JAMA Caper

2006-11-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 jstein wrote: 
  No, you were incorrect in your suspicions (actually
  you knew they were incorrect), and also in your
  claim that your suspicions were justified because
  nobody would give you a (nonexistent) link to the
  article.
  
 I'm still suspicious - after re-reading the relevant threads,
 it would appear that not a single one of the respondents had 
 actually read the report published in JAMA, much less 
 the Hoodwinked JAMA Caper written by Skolnick.

I've already corrected you on this point (which you
knew wasn't accurate to start with).  And you've got
the name of Skolnick's article wrong.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's salary: you get what you pay for...

2006-11-27 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ 
 wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ 
wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante 
no_reply@ 
   wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante 
 no_reply@ 
   wrote:
  
   http://tinyurl.com/u932s
  
  
 
  Probably a typo, or based on 1970 figures.
 
 
 ***
 
 Nah, he took at least one pay cut from his high of 
 ~$15K/year, 
   despite 
 his pioneering work in introducing the FS major at MUM:
 
 
 http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/26/fashion/26fat.html


   
Bah. Bevan is an amateur as far as Fat Studies go.

http://web.mac.com/lawsonenglish/iWeb/Site/I%27m%20fat.html
   
   
   
   Would it kill you to eat a piece of fruit, bubbaleh?
  
  
  Would it kill you to stop making assumptions about other people?
 
 
 
 
 What assumption? You post a photo on your site labeled fat and 
 displaying yourself. 


Yea, Sparaig looks real fat in that photo. He should eat some fruit.

OffWorld



Re: [FairfieldLife] Trifala - Ayurvedic shield for nuclear radiation

2006-11-27 Thread gullible fool

For anyone here who takes trifala, I found a way
around the awful taste. Chew fresh fennel seeds for a
bit before taking the trifala.

--- Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm sorry, this is pure bullsh*t. Will someone
 please
 explain to me how an herb will prevent the massive
 cell death from radiation and the exact mechanics?
 What utter nonsense. Kind of like saying vitamin C
 will prevent car crashes.
 
 --- rama krishna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Be it a cancer attack or the deadly assault of
  nuclear radiation, the
  age-old Ayurvedic formulation 'Trifala' holds the
  power of shielding
  mankind from all these onslaughts, Mr K P Mishra,
  top Radiation
  Biologist formerly associated with the Bhabha
 Atomic
  Research Centre
  (BARC), Mumbai claimed here. 
  
  Also the President of the Indian Society for
  Radiation Biology and
  Indian Biophysical Society Dr Mishra said that the
  peerless power of
  'Trifala' -- a trinity of three herbs, Amalaki,
  Haritaki and Bibhitaki
  -- held the promise of protecting the body from
 the
  attack of dreadful
  disease like cancer and the onslaught of nuclear
  radiation. 
  
  Dr Mishra, the former head of Radiation Biology
 and
  Health Sciences
  Division at BARC and presently a visiting
 professor
  to the Hiroshima
  University (Japan) is here to attend the 5th
  International Conference of
  'Low Dose Radiation Effects on Human Health and
  Environment' underway at
  the Banaras Hindu University (BHU). 
  ''Trifala is not only the best laxative and colon
  tonic, but also offers
  perfect treatment to allergies, cold, flu and
  obesity. The age-old basic
  Ayurvedic formulation also tones up the immune
  system of the body --
  essential to foil any attack be it cancer or
 nuclear
  radiation,'' Dr
  Mishra maintained. 
  
  The basic Ayurvedic formulation can be of an
 immense
  protective value
  against diseases like cancer and radio-activity
  especially arising out
  of nuclear radiation in this era of growing
  dependence of nuclear power
  both for advancement and war. 
  
  ''Trifala tones up the immune system, by
  differentiating between
  diseased human cells and the healthy or normal
  cells. Once the diseased
  cells have been identified, the power of Trifala
  kills these cells,
  making way for the development of new healthy
 cells,
  consequently toning
  up the immune system. Intake of this staple
  Ayurvedic formulation will
  thus help people beat all onslaughts on their
  body,'' he added. 
  
  In case of nuclear radiation also a fully toned up
  immune system
  courtsey the intake of Trifala could help people
  neutralise the harmful
  effects of radio-activity, Dr Mishra said. 
  
  Dr Mishra, who was heading the ongoing project at
  the BARC to develop a
  drug that would help the soldiers neutralise the
  harmfull effects of
  nuclear radiation in case of an atomic attack said
  the power of Trifala
  was discovered by a team member Dr Sandhya during
  the work on the
  project. 
  
  ''The search is on for finding more such
  formulations like Trifala,
  which can make the body immune to deadly
  radiations,' ' Dr Mishra
  maintained. 
  
  ''Research during the course of project has proved
  that Trifala
  consumers working in occupations replete with
  radio-activity like X-ray
  centres were immune to harmful radiations,' ' he
  added. 
  
  Enlisting the other projects underway at the BARC,
  Dr Mishra said a
  series of efforts were being made to apply
  radioisotope technology --
  technology based on naturally occurring or
 synthetic
  radioactive form of
  an element -- to benefit the country's population.
 
  
  The slew of radioisotope based iniatiatives
 included
  application to
  eliminate the destruction of crop by insects,
  tracing untapped ground
  water resources, besides checking the organ wise
  functioning of human
  body, he added. 
  
  ''The technology is in the process of being
 applied
  to sterilise the
  insect population which destroy crops, thus saving
 a
  huge amount our
  crops which are decayed,'' he added. 
  
  The most significant area of radioisotope, a
 seminal
  branch of nuclear
  medicine is the work on applying it to devise
  missile technology based
  medicine system, which will ensure targeted
 delivery
  of drugs especially
  in cases of cancer and diabetes. 
  
  ''A missile hits a specific enemy target.
 Similarly
  efforts are underway
  at the BARC to devise a system of radioisotope
 based
  nuclear medicine,
  especially in cases of cancer, where the
 anti-cancer
  drug acts only on
  the diseased cells and not the healthy parts of
 the
  body,'' Dr Mishra. 
  
  When the system is put in place, maximum result
 can
  be obtained through
  minimum input of drugs, thus replacing the
  side-effects of radio-therapy
  on patients and eliminating the need for surgical
  intervention to a
  large extent, he claimed. 
  
  The Lyposome or Cell Membrane based targeted drug
  

[FairfieldLife] Yogic flying video

2006-11-27 Thread off_world_beings
Where's that yogic flying video I saw where they showed an 
accomplished gymnast trying it by effort alone, and saying that there 
was something to it, because he found it so hard?

Anyone know where that is? Is it on YouTube?

OffWorld



Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-27 Thread gullible fool

If only I had a nickel for every self-actualized sidha
I've met. I could buy a popsicle.

--- suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective
 cure for mental 
 illness. 
 
 A large body of research has demonstrated that
 Transcendental 
 Meditation produces comprehensive improvements in
 mental health, 
 enhancing positive features and reducing various
 forms of 
 psychological distress. A systematic review of 144
 studies found that 
 Transcendental Meditation was markedly more
 effective in reducing 
 anxiety than other techniques (including progressive
 muscular 
 relaxation, methods claimed to induce a 'relaxation
 response', and 
 other forms of meditation)
 
 The superiority of Transcendental Meditation
 remained highly 
 significant when only the strongest and most
 rigorous studies were 
 included in the analysis. Transcendental Meditation
 has also 
 consistently been found to reduce depression,
 hostility, and 
 emotional instability, indicating the growth of a
 more stable, 
 balanced, and resilient personality
 
 In another statistical review of 42 independent
 research results, 
 Transcendental Meditation was found to be three
 times as effective as 
 other meditation and relaxation procedures in
 increasing self-
 actualization-an overall measure of positive mental
 health and 
 personal development. Further analysis revealed that
 the technique is 
 exceptionally effective in developing three
 independent components of 
 this dimension: emotional maturity, a resilient
 sense of self, and a 
 positive, integrated perspective on ourselves and
 the world
 
 An exhaustive survey conducted by the Swedish
 National Health Board 
 found evidence that psychiatric hospital admissions
 may be much less 
 common among people practicing Transcendental
 Meditation than in the 
 general population
 
 
 
 The following excerpt is from Maharishi's book  The
 Science of Being 
 and Art of living
 
 Mental health depends upon the normal functioning of
 the nervous 
 system, so that the full mind is brought to bear
 upon the external 
 world. The normal functioning of the nervous system
 results in 
 physical good health so that the body is able to
 carry out the 
 dictates of the mind, fulfill its desires, and
 fulfill the purpose of 
 existence. 
 
 As long as the coordination of the mind with the
 nervous system is 
 intact, mental health is maintained. When this
 coordination breaks 
 down, either because of some failure on the part of
 the mind or of 
 the nervous system, ill health is the result. Such
 failure of the 
 mind is brought about by a continued inability to
 fulfill its 
 desires. 
 
 The main reason for this is weakness in the clarity
 and power of 
 thought, which thus fails to stimulate the nervous
 system to the 
 extent that it can successfully carry out the
 activity needed for 
 fulfillment of the desire. For the most thorough
 coordination and the 
 most perfect functioning, a profound power of
 thought on the part of 
 the mind, together with a corresponding efficient
 executive ability 
 in the nervous system, is required.
 
 The integrity of the organic nature of the nervous
 system is 
 certainly as essential as the power of the mind. As
 far as their 
 functioning is concerned, they are interdependent.
 It has been found 
 that while the nervous system remains unchanged, an
 improvement of 
 the state of the mind results in an improved state
 of thinking and 
 better coordination between the mind and the world
 around it. When 
 the full mind is brought out to express itself in
 the external world, 
 the subject comes into a more perfect and rewarding
 relationship with 
 the needs of the mind. A mind that is happy and
 contented produces 
 health.
 
 It has also been found that, if the physical state
 of the nervous 
 system is improved by means of medicine, while the
 state of mind 
 remains the same, the thinking becomes more profound
 and the mind 
 functions more energetically and more efficiently.
 Thus, we find that 
 the mind and the nervous system are interdependent,
 but since the 
 mind is obviously of a more subtle nature than its
 organ, the nervous 
 system, it seems wiser to assume that the mind is
 primary.
 
 Any number of factors might interfere with the
 growth of a tree, but 
 weakness in the seed itself would overshadow them
 all in importance. 
 In the same way, any number of factors might prevent
 the fulfillment 
 of a need, but weakness of the power of thought must
 certainly 
 overshadow the rest. A strong seed will produce a
 tree even in a 
 desert, while no amount of nurturing will help a
 weak seed. If the 
 basic power of thought is strong, it will find its
 way to fulfillment.
 
 If, because of the failure to satisfy the needs and
 desires of the 
 mind, discontent begins to produce tension within
 it, then the way to 
 remove these tensions will be to strengthen the mind
 by increasing 
 its power to 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic flying video

2006-11-27 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Where's that yogic flying video I saw where they showed an 
 accomplished gymnast trying it by effort alone, and saying that there 
 was something to it, because he found it so hard?
 
 Anyone know where that is? Is it on YouTube?
 
 OffWorld




I think that's quite old, pre-WWW. But it does bring up a point I'd 
like to see: have the TMO sponsor research at the Univ of Wherever as 
long as its not MUM, with trained gymnasts trying to duplicate yogic 
flying, which leaves even the most fit gymnasts exhausted after 5 
minutes, let alone 20 or more minutes that YFers do. It'd be nice to 
have a little more levity in the levitation, but barring that, proof 
that gymnasts cannot duplicate yogic flying for extended periods would 
be nice.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic flying video

2006-11-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ 
wrote:
 
  Where's that yogic flying video I saw where they showed an 
  accomplished gymnast trying it by effort alone, and saying that 
there 
  was something to it, because he found it so hard?
  
  Anyone know where that is? Is it on YouTube?
  
  OffWorld
 
 
 http://youtube.com/watch?v=KOW2wIFhioo

Looks to me as though the poor gymnasts are trying
to hop on a mat, not on foam.  The mat's nice and
thick, but it isn't resilient.

Not only can't they get any lift, but they're
having to use some of their energy to keep from
landing too hard, so they can't get up any
momentum from hop to hop.

I'd love to see them try it on our foam, and I'd
also love to see the yogic flyers try it on the
gymnasts' mat.  I'm guessing there'd still be a
difference, but it wouldn't be nearly so stark.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic flying video

2006-11-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ 
 wrote:
  
   Where's that yogic flying video I saw where they showed an 
   accomplished gymnast trying it by effort alone, and saying that 
 there 
   was something to it, because he found it so hard?
   
   Anyone know where that is? Is it on YouTube?
   
   OffWorld
  
  
  http://youtube.com/watch?v=KOW2wIFhioo
 
 Looks to me as though the poor gymnasts are trying
 to hop on a mat, not on foam.  The mat's nice and
 thick, but it isn't resilient.
 
 Not only can't they get any lift, but they're
 having to use some of their energy to keep from
 landing too hard, so they can't get up any
 momentum from hop to hop.
 
 I'd love to see them try it on our foam, and I'd
 also love to see the yogic flyers try it on the
 gymnasts' mat.  I'm guessing there'd still be a
 difference, but it wouldn't be nearly so stark.


Thicker foam would provide far less support for the initial push-off. And 
no-one woulkd 
want to fall from two feet up onto a regular wrestling mat.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-27 Thread nablusos108

  
  
  
  Peter wrote:
   Yes, anixiety disorders, depressive disorders, but
   absolutely not psychosis, it only makes it worse, much
   worse.
  
   --- suziezuzie msilver1951@ wrote:
  
 
   Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective
   cure for mental 
   illness. 
  
   A large body of research has demonstrated that
   Transcendental 
   Meditation produces comprehensive improvements in
   mental health, 
   enhancing positive features and reducing various
   forms of 
   psychological distress. A systematic review of 144
   studies found that 
   Transcendental Meditation was markedly more
   effective in reducing 
   anxiety than other techniques (including progressive
   muscular 
   relaxation, methods claimed to induce a 'relaxation
   response', and 
   other forms of meditation)
  
   The superiority of Transcendental Meditation
   remained highly 
   significant when only the strongest and most
   rigorous studies were 
   included in the analysis. Transcendental Meditation
   has also 
   consistently been found to reduce depression,
   hostility, and 
   emotional instability, indicating the growth of a
   more stable, 
   balanced, and resilient personality
  
   In another statistical review of 42 independent
   research results, 
   Transcendental Meditation was found to be three
   times as effective as 
   other meditation and relaxation procedures in
   increasing self-
   actualization-an overall measure of positive mental
   health and 
   personal development. Further analysis revealed that
   the technique is 
   exceptionally effective in developing three
   independent components of 
   this dimension: emotional maturity, a resilient
   sense of self, and a 
   positive, integrated perspective on ourselves and
   the world
  
   An exhaustive survey conducted by the Swedish
   National Health Board 
   found evidence that psychiatric hospital admissions
   may be much less 
   common among people practicing Transcendental
   Meditation than in the 
   general population
  
  
  
   The following excerpt is from Maharishi's book  The
   Science of Being 
   and Art of living
  
   Mental health depends upon the normal functioning of
   the nervous 
   system, so that the full mind is brought to bear
   upon the external 
   world. The normal functioning of the nervous system
   results in 
   physical good health so that the body is able to
   carry out the 
   dictates of the mind, fulfill its desires, and
   fulfill the purpose of 
   existence. 
  
   As long as the coordination of the mind with the
   nervous system is 
   intact, mental health is maintained. When this
   coordination breaks 
   down, either because of some failure on the part of
   the mind or of 
   the nervous system, ill health is the result. Such
   failure of the 
   mind is brought about by a continued inability to
   fulfill its 
   desires. 
  
   The main reason for this is weakness in the clarity
   and power of 
   thought, which thus fails to stimulate the nervous
   system to the 
   extent that it can successfully carry out the
   activity needed for 
   fulfillment of the desire. For the most thorough
   coordination and the 
   most perfect functioning, a profound power of
   thought on the part of 
   the mind, together with a corresponding efficient
   executive ability 
   in the nervous system, is required.
  
   The integrity of the organic nature of the nervous
   system is 
   certainly as essential as the power of the mind. As
   far as their 
   functioning is concerned, they are interdependent.
   It has been found 
   that while the nervous system remains unchanged, an
   improvement of 
   the state of the mind results in an improved state
   of thinking and 
   better coordination between the mind and the world
   around it. When 
   the full mind is brought out to express itself in
   the external world, 
   the subject comes into a more perfect and rewarding
   relationship with 
   the needs of the mind. A mind that is happy and
   contented produces 
   health.
  
   It has also been found that, if the physical state
   of the nervous 
   system is improved by means of medicine, while the
   state of mind 
   remains the same, the thinking becomes more profound
   and the mind 
   functions more energetically and more efficiently.
   Thus, we find that 
   the mind and the nervous system are interdependent,
   but since the 
   mind is obviously of a more subtle nature than its
   organ, the nervous 
   system, it seems wiser to assume that the mind is
   primary.
  
   Any number of factors might interfere with the
   growth of a tree, but 
   weakness in the seed itself would overshadow them
   all in importance. 
   In the same way, any number of factors might prevent
   the fulfillment 
   of a need, but weakness of the power of thought must
   certainly 
   overshadow the rest. A strong seed will produce a
   tree even in a 
   desert, while no amount of 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic flying video

2006-11-27 Thread anywho108
This brings up something I've been pondering about yogic flying 
which of course isn't flying at all. Although I've had the sutras for 
many many years, I would like to hear some explanation of exactly what 
bouncing around, or shaking, or whatever else people are doing has 
anything to do with levitation.

I've always had the feeling that if tomorrow MMY said, okay, all this 
hopping around isn't really necessary, then all of a sudden people 
would stop hopping around.

What's the point?


  Not only can't they get any lift, but they're
  having to use some of their energy to keep from
  landing too hard, so they can't get up any
  momentum from hop to hop.
  
  I'd love to see them try it on our foam, and I'd
  also love to see the yogic flyers try it on the
  gymnasts' mat.  I'm guessing there'd still be a
  difference, but it wouldn't be nearly so stark.
 
 
 Thicker foam would provide far less support for the initial push-
off. And no-one woulkd 
 want to fall from two feet up onto a regular wrestling mat.